Life After Heartbreak A.K.A. Achey Breakey Farts

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Have you ever been ghosted by someone you deeply loved? That soul-crushing moment when they tell you to "forget about me" but somehow leave you with just enough hope to keep you looking for their car every time you cross the street?

This raw, unfiltered conversation dives into the painful reality of modern relationships—where connections that begin in workplaces, through friends, or at social gatherings can evolve into profound love stories... or devastating heartbreaks. One host vulnerably shares his journey through a relationship that felt like true love, only to have it end abruptly with no real closure. He describes the psychological torture of being ghosted, then contacted again as if nothing happened, and the difficulty of moving forward when you've experienced what felt like your "endgame" relationship.

We explore why telling someone "maybe later" is one of the cruelest forms of rejection, how family complications create added layers of relationship challenges, and why honest communication matters more than comfortable lies. The conversation thoughtfully examines what it means to find yourself checking crowds for a glimpse of someone who asked you to forget them—and the courage it takes to finally let go.

Beyond relationships, we touch on urban safety in Chicago, morning gratitude practices, and finding strength during difficult times. This episode speaks to anyone who's experienced the unique pain of loving deeply and losing suddenly, offering both solidarity and perspective on the journey toward healing.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
The thing is, I feel like most people right in life,
like before dating apps and allthat bullshit, most of the time
like yeah, I'm not saying randompeople don't date, most people
are random people anyways.
Right, like when you first meetthem, but it feels like most of
the time most relationshipsstart because you met them at

(00:20):
work.
You met them through a friend,you met them at a party, like a
party going on, and you know howit is.
So welcome to the show, thankyou for tuning in.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
We might even meet them over here on the show, bro.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Yeah, you know what I mean here at the Shakedown.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Thank you for tuning in.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
We appreciate you guys being here.
So we're just talking aboutrelationships at work.
Yup, work.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
you know, I never, I think I had one relationship at
work and, um, it only lasted afew weeks, but it is, it's, I
don't know, it's, it'snerve-wracking and it's cool at
the same time, exactly.
Um, I mean, I had lots of funat work with my girlfriend.
That's all I could do with thewomen ever at work.
You know some people that I wasseeing at the time some people
be snagging at work, oh yeah,exactly right bro that's crazy.

(01:08):
I'm like dude, you can't waittill you get home, just snagging
bro just straight up, choppingit up dog, but it's like bro,
like yo.
This is.
This is a public bathroom.
Damn it, we're at work.
Dad, you're walking andfreaking walking fridge bro
that's some fucking respect damnit behind the pad, the furthest
pall out in the most furthestback of the building corner.
You know that sort of shit.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
That pallet that never gets moved in the back you
know that one right there.
You know that's got a littlebit of space where nobody can
see shit.
Yeah, no, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Then they wonder why they got a rash on the back of
there.
You know, because they'resitting on pallets they
shouldn't be sitting on.
Or over there on the potatoesthat are trying to get sold the
next day yeah man, don't, nobodywant that with that sweaty ass
potato.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
This is the name of the game, son.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
It's crazy though man the name of the game son.
Crazy.
Sometimes you got to get thatpromotion, no matter what.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Don't even have to be at work.
It could be taking a hike up inthe mountains or whatever that
was.
The funnest part is hiking withthe woman, with the chick, and
looking for little secludedplaces that are off the trail.
That's the funnest.
I'll take a few.

(02:14):
What do they call those?
Those ball of thorns?
Oh, the Sticky.
I'll take one of those in thecrack of the ass.
Uh, you know, just for a littlesake, a little bit.
You know something, somethingyeah, hey, you know, uh, I have,
I'm not gonna lie to you I'vegotten ass fulls of grass in my
crack, bro, just you know that,or a cramp, oh, I mean mid

(02:38):
-session.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Those are the worst.
I mean you're you know what Imean like hold on, hold on, I
got a cr, I got a cramp.
What you mean, you got a cramp.
Yeah, I mean yeah, yeah, no,dude, it's.
I wouldn't, I don't know, Iwouldn't suggest it.
But you know, you never know,dude, maybe there are some
beautiful things that come outof a relationship, from meeting

(02:59):
someone at work, maybe there ispeople who last, and there's,
there's people who've beentogether since high school.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
No, no, there is.
I mean, I still believe thatthere's that old school type of
like, like love, like you knowyou could actually.
No, there is.
I was fortunate enough to meet,uh and and experience true love
this last time around, but, um,we stopped talking about like
six, like six and a half monthsago or so, but you know, she was
strong for that one and a halfyears or whatever, and it had to
end up where she ended itabruptly, and it is what it is,

(03:32):
unfortunately.
I am heartbroken.
It is what it is, but you know.
Here at the.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Shakedown.
We fix heartbreaks, we try toat least.
Yeah, Well, you know what wetell them.
Yeah, take a shot and move on.
Take a shot and move on huh.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, it's not easy, but Take a shot of vodka, get a
shot of penicillin and move thefuck on bro.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah, yeah, dude, it ain't easy being cheesy out here
, you know, but we definitelylike to keep it moving, bro,
because you know you feel like.
You feel like, oh, dude.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
I think we've all been there at one point or
another, but it seems like.
It seems like the go-to forwomen is oh, I don't want to see
you now, but maybe later on.
I was like no, if you don'twant to see me now, I can't.
I wouldn't for the life of meunderstand why you'd want to.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
We already saw each other.
Yeah, no, dude.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Either we keep seeing each other or we don't.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, no, dude, sometimes they, I think they
feel like they want one thing atone moment and then the next
moment they just, you know, Imet the chick you know Lady
brains, bro Lady brains.
Yeah, yeah, I met the chick.
She was.
We went out, we had a nicedinner, you know, and then the
next day she was just yeah, Ithink we're moving too fast this
and that and.
I get it, I get it, I respectit.

(04:46):
It is what it is.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
And you can't do whatever.
You try to do one thing or tryto do the other or try to talk
some sense into them, becauseyou can't slap some sense into
them.
No, no, we definitely don'tpromote putting your hands on
women here.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
But definitely I would say hit up the homie dude,
just get like okay, it's coolto like.
Just stand like like, um, besad, be down about it for the
first week or two, then maybe Imean for us, for people who love
hard, it's gonna take more thana week or two.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
You don't have control over that that's the
thing you don't but they saythat normally and and I kind of
seen it for myself with my lastserious, serious relationship
was that, uh, they say that, uh,the law, the you take the
amount of time you were togetherand uh, you divide, you divide
that time and that's, they say,that's normally about as long as

(05:36):
you're gonna grieve so it's notyou lost somebody, though like
look at it, look at it this way,man, Like we were together for
about a year and a half.
It really got really like hardthat last year, you know, and
like she said don't call me,Forget about me, and because I

(05:58):
love her, that's what I did,that's what I'm doing.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
That's what I'm trying to do.
You should have played thatsong for her.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Listen to your heart, oh no, I was sending her all
sorts of songs, I was serenadingher almost every day, bro.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
You know what's crazy .

Speaker 2 (06:12):
This time around.
I just didn't feel like it wasyou know.
Now you got to let it out dude,when your lady says my kids
don't like you and my dad saysto stop seeing you, then it's
like okay, well, you know.
I understand about the kids,but, like the whole, my dad is

(06:32):
like dude.
You're 35 years old, bro.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Right, like I get it right, like I mean don't get me
wrong.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
You're 35 years old, but I get it.
I understand too.
I understand it.
But at the same time it's likeI don't really want to be with
somebody that's going to bebased in you know.
Obviously she didn't care aboutme enough to to try to work
something out.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
You understand what I'm saying right she's like look
, I could try my best.
Like the kids is one thingyou're right like, but the dad
thing is like I get it too rightbecause like I would like,
let's say, I met somebody and mymom's like she was like I kind
of don't really, I would takeher word into consideration, no
doubt, but for that to kind ofmake that final decision is like
you know, I got to think aboutmyself at the end of the day too
.
But if she's definitely likeout there, like being, you know,

(07:15):
out there, well, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
You know, but I don't like, that's what I'm saying.
I'm pretty sure I believe Itrust her, I know her, I feel
like I do know her well enoughto know that she's true and
everything, but at the same timeit's like don't do that to you,
don't do that to a person.
You know what I'm saying, ornot just that, but then just
leave it up to to oh, maybelater on down the road, that's

(07:40):
just.
You know what I say, that'snarcissistic.
Right there, it's like dude, no, you don't do that.
No, you know what I say, bro,it's like that saying I forgot
the name of the song, but it'slike if you're going to leave,
then leave.
I mean don't leave making methink that there might be a
chance later on.
Fuck that.

(08:00):
If you're going to leave, go onand leave, Don't fucking you
know.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
No, what it is is is they leave you.
They leave you with like aglimmer of hope.
And you know what hoping hopeis.
Hope is pain.
Yep, you know, because you'rehoping they might call that,
you're hoping this and that, andthen there's something tricks
us into thinking like I gotta, Igotta a thing right where, like
ah, dude, you know what, I'mgonna get rid of this that she
gave me from like two years agoor like a year and a half that
I've been holding on to that.

(08:24):
I just I don't think I'm goingto see her ever again.
I need to get rid of it themoment you get rid of it.
A day later or two, you get acar, you get it, and then you
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, it's weird and the worst part is that, like
when this is their MO, do youunderstand what I'm?
This is the first time shestraight up told me forget about
me, don't call me anymore, wecan't talk.
Don't call me no more, don'ttext me no more.
But like she did it, she haddone that like probably like a

(08:53):
year before that.
So she had done this.
When stuff had just started offbeing fresh and it was obvious
that it was something real andshe already had done this.
Yeah, she, but that time sheliterally ghosted me.
For how long?
Like just.
You know, I can't even remember.
I'm trying to just forget aboutit, but it had to have been

(09:15):
like.
It had to have been like amonth and she pulled up on you
or what.
It's a funny story, we don'thave no, no, no, that's fine.
It's a funny story.
We don't have.
I mean, if you want to, no, no,no, that's fine, it's like she.
She goes me, doesn't answer myphone calls, nothing.
I stopped talking to her Like Istopped then all of a sudden.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
No, no explanation no explanation no, nothing.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Then all of a sudden, video calls me, like nothing
ever happened, and then I waswalking out the door.
Hello, I say.
And the first thing she didn'tsay hey, how you doing, where
are you?

Speaker 1 (09:53):
That's what I'm saying.
Dude, when am I?
Where the hell you been?

Speaker 2 (09:57):
No, I wasn't even like that.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
No, I know, but in my mind I probably would have been
like where the hell you been?

Speaker 2 (10:01):
I just told her, like you have no right to ask me
that, like what the hell does itmatter?
Where the hell am I?
You?

Speaker 1 (10:07):
know she said I want to see you.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Yeah, obviously.
I mean, then we had thatintense year that we did After
that it was a.
She called me like asnotty-nosed little girl crying,
and that was another part toothat just that to me was.
I saw that I heard.
I mean I didn't see it, but Iheard it and it was just like
yeah, no, yeah, I can't.

(10:33):
It was a turn off, man.
I'm like I hear you, bro, I haveto say it's probably the first
time in the whole time that I'veknown her that it was just like
a and it was so strong that,like when that last phone call
like it was just like a and itwas so strong that like when
that last phone call like it wasthat was one, that had to been
one of the biggest reasons why Isaid, all right, cool, cause I

(10:55):
just you're like I can't do thisright now it's like you're here
, that's too much.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
You know that feels like a lot of like, not even
like mental stress.
That's too much.
You know that feels like a lotof like, not even like mental
stress, like a mental workout.
Dude, that feels like a mentalworkout like, yeah, I get it,
but when you love somebody,though you're willing to do damn
near yeah, yeah, and that's Imean, as I told you, I was
willing to do anything andeverything.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
I was working.
I mean I was homeless when Ifirst met her.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
But that probably just gave you a extra drive.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
I was halfway near homeless and kind of living
somewhere.
When we started gettingtogether, that's where we would
hang out.
It was in a place that had noheat.
It was being in the middle of aremodel.
It barely even had a room.
But she loved you for who youwere, and then she would come
hang out.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
And that's love dude.
So I feel you, dude, I feel youfor him, I hope well, no, no,
nobody's.
No, you know, most, most peoplearen't gonna like, I don't know
, people are different, right,like if I met a girl she was
super dope and down to earth andshe told me that her situation
was rough, I wouldn't judge.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
I'd be like, look like no, I mean, I wouldn't
judge either, but it's just,it's just a whole the way about
it, you know.
And then it's like when you'veyou put up with a lot, not to
say that I put up with a lotbecause to me it wasn't anything
.
I wanted to be with her, right,you know, anything else didn't

(12:19):
seem like a sacrifice, didn'tseem like a struggle, didn't
seem like anything.
A word like a struggle didn'tseem like anything.
I was willing to do anythingand everything just to be with
her right do you understand whatI'm saying, right, and you
didn't even ask for much.
Really right and and.
And.
For the first time in my life,I caught myself being completely
opposite of what I had beenbefore.
I was not a jealous person, Iwas so sure of her.

(12:43):
She made me, she made me feelassured and hopefully I made her
feel the same way.
And you know, I've come a longway since we talked Right, since
, you know, since we first metRight, right, coming from where
you came from, and so I was likeI don't understand.
And then there was talk,mentions that, like you know,

(13:05):
there's no rush because she's atwo-year widow.
Right she's two years into hergrieving.
I get that, and the kids too,and I understand all that.
I have respect for this man.
I've never met the man, buteverything she would not shut up
about him and that's one of thethings that made me fall in
love with her me falling in lovewith her.
I could see that she loved herhusband so, that's tough dude.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
It's not like they divorced or she cheated or
anything.
This man rest in peace.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, rest in peace.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
I don't know, maybe that really, maybe she feels
like she's really betraying him.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
I totally understand that that was the main reason
the first time around.
But supposedly, when they saythat, hey, it's weird to me that
now, when I'm having theseromantic feelings when I used to
have romantic feelings myhusband would be the one I would
have him with, and now it's you, and I believe that that, but

(14:07):
it's it hurts, I guess I'm justhurt.
I guess I'm just a hurt pussyat the end of the day.
I mean, really I shouldn't beup here saying all this, but no,
yeah, no, I mean hey, this isthe shake, but this is.
This is men's health right.
This is one of the things thatwe all, all us as men, the
biggest thing that takes us off.
Our course.
You know what I'm saying.
It's like you meet somebody,you that made you feel things

(14:31):
and made you feel a certain way,so sure of yourself and made
you do things that, like you,had forgotten a long time ago
that you, you could do you know,almost almost, because, like
you know um me, I've been singlefor a while.
so when you meet someone wherethat makes you feel a way that
you thought you would never feelagain, yeah, exactly that's a
special feeling and so and thiswas completely different than

(14:53):
it's like I said it's like I'vefallen in love for the first
time All over again.
No, it's not all over again.
It's not even all over again.
It's like I thought I was inlove before with my wife and all
that other stuff.
And I do love my wife, I havelove for my wife and respect for
my wife, but this is, and stillremains to be, something

(15:15):
completely different that Iexperienced.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
I can't say that I feel the way that me and her
experienced, because I know thatit was mutual and I know that
we're that me and herexperienced.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Because I know that it was.
I know it was mutual and I knowthat we're both hurting and
that sucks.
But Life's tough and that sucksbecause I would be.
I know myself enough to knowthat I would still be sitting
here.
I'm still sitting here.
Come on, now you can say it.
Don't hold back bro.

(15:43):
No, no, I'm not, I'm stillsitting here wishfully hoping
you see me crossing the fuckingstreet.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Yeah, no, I mean, I just feel.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
And I catch myself walking down the fucking street
looking for her car dude, Everysingle fucking time dude.
And it's like, not evenwillingly, it's just a fucking
thing that I do.
It's not like I'm stalking herbecause I'm, you know, honestly,
like I know where she lives,but I don't care.
That's that's not how I wantthis to be.
Exactly I don't want to taintthat like this.

(16:14):
I don't.
You know the old me would havebeen.
You know enough in the fieldthat you know if it happens that
happens naturally it happened Ithink I feel like our time has
come right and gone and come andgone and it would suck for her
to come what if she does?
because honestly, I feel like,like even if if I was, if we did

(16:35):
kind of fall back intosomething, I don't think that it
would be the same thing that itwas.
I think she fucked that up oh,definitely, definitely.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
It's never gonna be the same, because I told her the
first time around.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
I said you know, if you do this again because she
even said it like I might dothis again, you know, because
you know my kids and all thisother you know.
I said I get that.
But like because I told her,you know, it just sounds to me
like you're taking the courageaway.
If you don't want to see me,just tell me.
You don't want to see me, right?
Don't tell me it's because ofthis.

(17:04):
Don't give me any other fuckingexcuse in the world.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
This is that.
It's not you, it's me.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
You're exactly fucking right, that's what this?

Speaker 1 (17:10):
You know, yeah, and we don't want to hear that.
Just give me the truth straightup.
You're right, exactly.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Right, don't sit there crying like a Tell me to
forget about you, that I'llnever talk to you again, that
this was a mistake, that I docare about you, I do love you
and everything we went throughis real.
But, like my dad said, and thekids like you, it wasn't so much
that the kids don't like me.
The kids didn't like me theidea of us talking, because we

(17:41):
were talking for a long time andthey would be around.
She would around when we wouldtalk.
We would have to watch what wesaid, but it was.
It's just.
I think that's what scared herthe most is that the, the two,
the two kids that were reallyagainst it.
Okay, so it was like the oldestwas about it, the two youngest,
the the middle one and theyoung one, were against it.

(18:03):
Okay, and this was like beforeI even got to know the kids.
She had told them that we were,you know, she had told and
mentioned to her parents andmentioned to the kids that we
were friends.
But she never told the kids that, but she did tell her dad and
her mom and her, you know,because she had to at some point

(18:26):
.
You know there's no way.
You're a single mom.
You're there every day, youknow you hardly ever leave for
anything, especially on theweekends, and you're coming over
here to hang out.
Yeah, for like four, you knowfour or five hours.
Yeah, you know, on a Sunday orwhenever, you know what I mean.
Or always on the phone, youknow what I mean.
Or or always on the phone, youknow what I'm saying.
Like she gets home from workand we're, we're on the phone.

(18:48):
We've been talking for like twoand a half hours or an hour and
a half, and then it's like thenshe, she gets home and we're
still talking.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
yeah, you know, for another two hours it sounds to
me like her pops was like hey,mija, you got, you got kids, you
can't be on the no, that'sexactly how he was.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
But what the fuck, dude?
What's it to him?

Speaker 1 (19:11):
What's it to him?
That's the thing, bro, when itcomes to like.
Honestly for me.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
I believe that he feels like he's losing out on
his free ride, because I reallydon't think he hopes.
He doesn't work.
I don't think he helps aroundhere.
He doesn't work.
I don't know the whole deal,you know what?
Never mind, I'm not even goingto go down there.
That's me being malicious.
No, no, no, that's me beingmalicious and trying to justify
things to myself.
No, but look.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
The way I see it, it's good that you haven't gone
over there.
You're keeping it natural.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
No, I am keeping it natural if it comes back.
If it comes back now, look, ithurts, but here's the thing.
I didn't reach out once I won'tlie, but that's it.
That was, you know, and that'sfor me that's kind of like was
has been the catalyst of likeall right, dude, I have to make
it a point.
That's why I had to ask her.
It's like, dude, this isn'tfair, because you, you fucked
with my head so much in the inin the uh, the sense of in the

(20:06):
in the, ghosting me the firsttime, and not just that, but
then telling me the whole timeafter that oh, I used to drive
by your house when we weren'ttalking, and I would drive by
hoping I would see you.
So why do you think I crossedthe road the way I do, like a
fucking chicken looking Like achicken?

Speaker 1 (20:24):
looking.
You know what I'm saying yeah,no I just want to say real quick
uh to our listeners.
If you know, we do have alittle comment section.
If you guys want to leave acomment of a time you've been
ghosted by you know you've beenghosted or whatever the case may
be now, like you were saying,though, but it's it's that whole
thing.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
And you see me.
You see me crossing the fuckingstreet and it's like I had to
stop that, because I don't doubtthat, especially now that it's
even like for a person.
You couldn't drive by and justsee me.
I lived all the way in the backon the second floor, right, you
know you couldn't even seethrough the window driving by.
But here, look at me.
I'm a fucking white-ass boy.
I live above a bar.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
You know, fucking white ass, but I live above a
bar.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
You know what I mean right, you know, and this is
just my opinion for everybody,right?
So it's like this.
This is the thing I want tojust tell women is like, for
women that do that sort of thing, when you do that to a guy and
you go back and and and then youdon't understand when it's
really, when you're reallytrying to break it up and
they're over there beingstalkers.
This is the fuck.
Why guys are that way isbecause you fuck with their
fucking heads and we're nottelling you to go out there and

(21:28):
be a stalker.
No, no, no, I'm not saying that,but I'm saying it's like it's
those little things that youthink are cute, that you think,
oh, he's gonna really appreciatethis, and now he's really gonna
say, no, I'd rather you justtell me hey, I really like you,
don't, don't go through, don'tput me through this drama and
make it seem like a fairy talein the end, because that's

(21:48):
another thing too.
There's like an age gapdifference, right, and I'm like
I'm already going to startentering my prime years here, so
I don't have time for that shit.
I don't have time for none ofthat shit.
And I told her this and thething't have time for that shit.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
You don't have time for none of that shit.
And I told you this.
And the thing is, women love.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
They love that shit, they love a fairy tale they do
that shit and go home and justrub one off.
You can't wait home to go homeand rub one off.
Oh yeah, I left him fuckinghurting so bad just waiting with
so much hope, like, oh no, no,stop that women.
Just please stop that.
That's not fair.
That's not fair to go.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Okay, you know what I think it is.
I think this is just my quickopinion.
Um, you know, you grow up, youmeet a girl and, um, she
probably doesn't appreciate youas much as you appreciate her.
She breaks your heart and thenthe next girl you meet, she
actually appreciates you the wayyou wanted to be appreciated.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
And you just think, though, it's like I went through
so many.
I put myself in situations,willingly okay, that I really
shouldn't have put myself into.
But it's that whole thing oflike, hey, dude, if I don't do
this, it's like it's now ornever.
It's it's like it's manuelapalmer for the rest of my life,
or, you know, I'll go through alittle bit of heartache just to

(23:07):
get you know.
Do you understand?
The struggle for a guy well,you don't always.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
You know what I mean.
Every time you, you, you shootyour shot.
You're not always gonna score,but that doesn't mean you don't
keep going right, and I'm notsaying just just.
I'm not saying you just keepshooting until you find somebody
to kind of lay in bed with,unless that's what they're out
there looking for, becausesometimes women are just out
there looking for a good timetoo.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
You just, it's just Hopefully, you know and I
understand some of the women inmy past definitely made it made
it out to be that way at the end.
It's like, dude, if you justwanted to have the fun, why were
?
What's the whole need of goingthrough the drama?

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Because I feel like sometimes they don't want to
seem like those type of women,and I get it, but it's just like
, yeah, it would save us a lotof time.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
But then they still put themselves through
situations that make them lookeven worse.
Do you understand what I'msaying?
Because that make them lookeven worse.
You know, yeah, do youunderstand what I'm saying?
Yeah, well, you know, because Ican keep my mouth shut, right,
you know, as long as If you canbe If a woman's like hey, if I
can.
If a woman tells me, hey, I digyou, let's do this, but you
ain't the only one, right, I'lltotally If, more times than any.

(24:16):
I guess you know I prefer thatbecause I'm not gonna lie.
I've been married for 22 years,happily separated for 14 right.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
But don't don't say it's just you and then yeah,
right, right.
And then I think I'm thinkingit's just me and you and I find
out it's this whole other.
Yeah, right, right.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
I have more respect for women that that do that
anyways yeah, I mean I used tobe in a poly network.
I can't say exactly that I waspoly, because none of those
women that I was in that networkwith were mine.
They were just my friends.
Right they had their own maindudes, right, and yeah, I mean,

(24:55):
I guess I was like the doobie inthat situation among those
women.
I don't know what else to say.
You know what I'm saying, justpassing it around.
I was just getting passed to theleft by these chicks and you
know honestly, I didn't mind atthe time.
I was coming off of a reallyyeah, rocky situation, I don't
know.
Rocky a real maddeningblindingly and maddeningly in

(25:19):
love with somebody that didn'tfeel the same way about me sort
of situation and that sucks whensomeone doesn't reciprocate the
, the feelings no, that wasbeing young dumb, stupid dude,
that that that was my faultthere.
You know I'll.
I'll take the, I'll take thehit because I knew what I did,
but I've always known what I'vegotten myself into.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
But it's like feelings are feelings, dude and
you know, especially when you'reyoung, your feelings kind of
like seem to take over more likeobviously, when you get older
you get a little bit wiser, youget a little bit better at
controlling feelings, or, likeyou know, you don't let certain
things get to you as quick, orlike you don't fall in love as
quickly, right?
You know you kind of likeyou're more cautious you're like
let's see how this goes.
First, because I I sometimes thething that sucks, dude.

(25:57):
I I feel like sometimes you'lllike sometimes people, right,
because everybody's different,right.
But like for me, like sometimesI'll say that right, I'll meet
a chick and I'm like let me just, well, let's give it some time.
And then a week later I'msmothered.
You know what I mean, like I'msmitten.
Yeah, and like I kind of wantto like you.
All I could say is that Ihonestly saw it.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
For me, this was my endgame.
That's why I don't.
It's been easy for me to bealone and honestly, I would much
rather just be alone than gothrough that again.
Bro.
Honestly, you know, it's not tosay that I'm, that I'm that

(26:43):
you're, that you're hanging upthe that I'm hanging up the the
thing with her and I, yeah, Imean, in a sense I have to move
on right, because that's nothealthy for me no, of course, I
feel I have no choice I feellike uh and I know that
eventually, you know over timethat that feeling will fade
right, but at the moment I justfeel like I I should just be
something's telling me, just bepatient.

(27:06):
I mean, yeah, I fucked it upbecause I told her.
You know, it's not fair thatyou've done this to me and now
you're leaving me with thisparanoia feeling that you're
lingering around somewhereoutside, and so that's driving
me insane.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
I'm like fucking playing where the fuck's.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Waldo here every time I step out my door.
You know, you know what I'msaying.
No, and I would say um toanybody.
And I know that I saw her once.
Dude, I you know, I know Isound like, I know I sound
insane dude, and I hate that.
That's the reason why I had totell her hey, dude, just
remember that day I said hey,dude, I know I just saw her.
Dude, I know I just saw her, andsame car and everything that
night dude, because it keptbugging me and I didn't say
anything after I told you that Itried to let go, but little by

(27:49):
little it was still chippingaway at me and I finally just I
texted her.
I said you know what, whetherit was you or not, you know I I
realized I'm sounding crazy, butthat's your fault.
I said you know, you know how Ifeel about you, but I can't do
this.
It's not fair that you're doingthis to me.
It's not fair that you put methrough this and I have to move
on.
I have to.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
I mean, it's it's already been more than six
months now and I think it hadbeen like a five, five months
well you know, like close tofive months at that point yeah,
like, like, like, fucking withhim, like, like or fucking with
you, like, let me just drive byjust right right exactly, I mean
, even if yeah and she and shekind of

Speaker 2 (28:25):
knows what time you get off and uh oh yeah, well, I
mean, we both know each other,unless you got a different job.
But she knows that, like I'm,I'm, I'm bolted to it.
My, my life plan right now isthere's no changing it, and at
least, if it is, it's it's forgreen your pastures, I can't
just like, at least if it isit's for greener pastures, I
can't just like.
There's no going back bro.
There's no moving back, dog.

(28:45):
I'm here bro.
I went homeless for a damn nearyear, like 6, 7, 8 months, or
like 6, 3 more, like 5, 6 months.
I'd rather I'd rather did thatThan have to have gone back,
because I could have gone backTo Colorado With my leg between

(29:05):
my ass and my head between myass, tails between the legs.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Whatever dude, all that shit Right right, all the
shenanigans Rolled up in a ball,whatever bro.
Whatever you want to call it.
No, I hear you, I think, in myopinion, because there's
probably, you're probably likethere's a part.
I mean, everybody's beenthrough that, right yeah,
definitely.
Just move on, man.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
No, no, I'm moving on In general, just no.
That's the thing, dude.
I'm not talking about likebeing alone because I can't move
on, I'm talking about justhonestly, I feel like I need to
be, I need to just reset, bro, Ineed to just reset.
Yeah, I was in a situation Ihad been celibate, dude,

(29:50):
celibate and by myself dude Forlike two and a half, almost
three years, before I met herdude and I tried to avoid her
like the plague dude, like theplague rolled into AIDS with
some coronavirus sprinkled intoit, bro.
I I tried to avoid her like theplague dude, like the plague
rolled into aids with somecoronavirus sprinkled into it,
bro.
I was trying to avoid her likeall that dog, and it's for some,
somehow, somehow it's, you know, you know and yeah, dude, you

(30:12):
can't avoid that.
I could tell you a whole bunchof little cute stories between
us, but fuck all that dude, yeah, it's just driving me torture.
I know the only reason we'retalking about this is because,
obviously, it's not just becauseI have to get it off my chest,
because I honestly feel likethis is a topic that we should
discuss.
We should discuss, you know,because every dude needs some
sort of every dude's feelingthis at one point or another.

(30:36):
Yeah, definitely.
Hopefully we're reaching out tosome people, hopefully I'm
helping out some people, givingthem some ideas.
You know that, no matter howspecial the thing is, you have
to let go.
You have to let go.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
If it's driving you crazy.
Yeah for your sake.
If it's a good thing, don't letgo.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Well, no, honestly.
That's why, See, that's catch22 because you can't let go,
because things were so good.
Do you understand what I'msaying?
Yeah, because it was a goodthing.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Yeah, and it doesn't ever.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
I'm not saying hopefully, I'm not portraying
her to be some sort of a monster, no, no, she totally wasn't.
It was the opposite.
Like it was, it was true, dude,it was 100%.
Here's the driven snow bro.
That's what I'm saying, like Iknow there was the deepest
connection I've ever felt withanybody before.
Right, you know, but it's stilljust that whole sense of like

(31:31):
dude, we're adults, yeah, you'rereally what, what.
And if you're going to say, oh,my dad doesn't let me see you,
it's like, seriously, you justhit me up with that bullshit.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Really Like back in high school.
What the fuck, dude?
She hit you with the word backin high school, yeah man, and I
get it.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
I get it because you know you depend on your parents
when you have kids and she's asingle parent, oh, definitely,
but still, have kids and she's asingle parent?
Oh, definitely, but still.
I mean, we were seeing eachother before and we were, you
know.
We literally wouldn't see eachwhen we I stopped working, we
stopped working together, likeonce a week, if that you know,

(32:11):
sometimes a couple times I wentwhere we didn't see each other
for like a month.
but we every day on the phone,every day Early in the morning
because she has a 45-minutedrive and me.
I just Listen, just listening.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah, I got.
Yeah, oh, traffic baby.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
It's not that I was like going out of my way to wake
up to talk to you because I youwanted it.
I'm a middle-aged man, dude.
I'm waking up at like 2, two,three o'clock to to do my, my
nightly ritual and, you know,sometimes it's in.
It just so happens that I'mwaking up around the time that
she's getting ready, she'sgetting getting on the road, dad
and um, you get used to wakingup and hearing that person's

(32:51):
voice.
Oh yeah, I mean before that mykids conditioned me to to uh
automatically wake up likearound, right, right, like five
or six, to be honest with you?
No, but you do, I hate sleepingin and I'm a morning person,
like I don't.
I'm a morning person, I don'tknow.
It's weird to see people wakeup.
They're like so bitchy and somad Because, honestly, I wake up

(33:15):
and this is no joke, I wake uppraying to the Lord.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
When I wake up to go take this piss, I'm like thank
you, lord for waking me up, foryou know, giving me still some
control over my body to get upand go to the bathroom and to
have been able to hold it forthis long, and then I'll go into
.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Nah, I'm joking, but I do do a prayer.
No, no, definitely not joking,because if you know I feel like
I, if I forget or anythinghappens throughout the day that
that keeps my keeps me fromdoing that, then at least I did
it first thing in the morningright and I'm so thankful to
wake up.
Anyways, that right, that's the.
That's the best way to greetthe world is like wake up and
just thank the lord.
Hey, thanks bro.
You know, appreciate enough,right?

(33:58):
Yeah, no, for real Cause um.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Now do me another favor.
Look after my kids, bro.
Right, right, right.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
And everybody's kids.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
And everybody out there.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
You know Cause you know, I feel like um Right,
right.
I know what you mean.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
No, no, but definitely we.
You know, I feel like everybodyAlways asks for their family
first.
I do, you know.
But no, especially in a worldwhere it's kind of like hustle
and bustle, you know, you kindof just get up and go.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
I mean look at what happened yesterday, man, that
poor dude you know.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
You know it's.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
You know Trump or not , which really you know that's.
It's silly to be killing peopleover words and over ideals and
beliefs.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Well you know the thing is, it's been going on.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
And honestly, I don't understand, because this is the
first time I've ever heard ofthe dude, whether he was,
whatever he was.
That's god bless america.
You have the choice to not haveto hear, to listen to him, to
press play or log into thechannel or go onto youtube and

(35:03):
look for his videos.
You understand what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (35:06):
well, look at, look at michael max and everybody
else.
They, everybody else, had thechoice not to listen to him, but
people just no and I understandthat too.
You know, I'm not, I'm notbelieving, I'm just saying no,
no, no, I mean all of it is justridiculous, dude it's like
definitely all of it isridiculous you know it's just,
but it is what.
That's what I'm saying.
Definitely, all of it isridiculous, you know, it's just.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
But it is what it is.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
There's some people out there that are dead heated.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
We're human beings.
It is what it is, you know.
It's a part of our DNA.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
That's what I'm saying, dude.
Like it's, you know, it's abeautiful thing, like I know
sometimes a loop like you justwake up, go to work, go home,
you know.
But like, if you find, if youfind the little things, like you
you know, First of all, youshould thank God that you feel
like you feel stuck in the loop.
Right that at least you're notthat loop could be completely
different.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Like right there, like you know, you could be
stuck in a loop.
The shitter right there infront of your face every day.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah, you know, that's why you know behind bars,
you know, giving three squaremeals, and even some people who
are behind bars try to uh I I.
You know they find ways to begrateful, like it's just well.
There's no other better placeto find yeah yeah, I know, you
know what I mean, but I'm justsaying like I mean he's
everywhere.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
But yeah, it's it's unfortunate that most people
choose not to really talk tothem or find them until they're
there.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Yeah, because a lot of people I feel like a lot of
people don't really believe in,and that's cool.
We're not here to persuadeanybody.
We're not here to challengeanybody or anything.
No, we're just here todefinitely say Freedom for
everybody.
I'm just telling you how I feelabout it?
Exactly no, that's how we feelabout it, feel about it exactly.
No, that's how we feel about it.
And um, everything's cool, man,it's just.
It's just.
Some people feel like, somepeople like look at me.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
What I'm saying is pray to god, do whatever it is
you do to allah, to buddha, towhoever it is that's in your
life.
That's helping you improveyourself, improve the life of
others and helping you try to bea better person.
Right?
Basically, that's all that is.
You know?
That's.
I'm giving you an example of mydaily routines.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
No, no, I hear you.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
And what I'm saying is I hope I'm reaching out to
the audience when I'm sayingthat Right, right, right.
I'm not here to tell you.
Pray to the Lord.
That's what I do, you know.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
pray to you know, I try to keep good energy around
and I really do believe that theenergy you put out is, in a way
, the energy.
So if you're out there yeah, ifyou're, you know, praying to
some evil energy, don't expectgood things to happen.
You know, what I mean.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
But no, I'm not saying you, I've known some
Satanists that are really goodpeople, man, that you know.
It's not because saying theystart about like actively
hurting people and sinning andthey just don't believe.
They're just not tied down tothe religious beliefs of the
Lord.
That's, that's just right it'snot that oh we're gonna go out
there and rape and rape and killeverybody those are my cults.

(37:55):
You know that other stuff.
You know it's, it's not, it'sthat's no, it's.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Being Satanist is about and we're just generally,
generally speaking here.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Yeah, I'm not saying about it we're saying whatever
floats your boat, man, you know,get up, do your prayer, do your
meditation just try toappreciate it.
Try to appreciate it if it's so, if you're praying to somebody,
that's how?
That making you want to improveyourself in the life of others.
And more power to you, you know, helping you try and be a
better person, then.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
And more power to you , you know helping you try and
be a better person.
Then do that, man.
Yeah, yeah, no, because, yeah,dude, I don't know um.
You know there's a lot ofpeople out there that are just
out to hurt sometimes.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Yeah, and you know you can't just go out and I mean
, look at that one lady who'sjust full of hate and vile bro
and then there's a thing, bro.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Look at that one lady who just got stabbed on the
train I don't even be laughing,but no, no, no, but you know
what I mean.
No, but I mean because I think,I don't know the dude had a
mental problem or a mentalproblem.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
He said that there was material in them that made
him do it.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
It's crazy, bro.
I feel like what it is, too, islike um.
So I heard supposedly I thinkit was a priest that was saying
like oh, when you start to takelike hard drugs and stuff, you
open up like for for demons tokind of just enter you oh yeah
you know, and then um, becausesome people man like that's

(39:16):
that's why it's.
You know I'm not judging ornothing, but you got to be
careful out there.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
You have to be careful.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
And then now you see that and what people are going
to think is a lot of peoplearen't going to want people
sitting behind them or standingbehind them.
I mean me personally.
I already don't like peoplestanding behind me.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
I mean if we're at the grocery store cool.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
But if we're on a train platform, dude.
There was not too long ago, acouple months ago, where people
were getting pushed onto trainplatforms.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Yeah, are you kidding me?
Oh yeah, yeah, I heard aboutthat.
I mean, that happens every oncein a while here in the city,
doesn't it?

Speaker 1 (39:47):
Yeah, you know it's just, it's just in the cities
like, yeah, there are somemental you know um help and I
just feel like in most cities,most people do, to be honest
with you, yeah, and I just feellike most cities aren't, aren't
given the help that's needed orwilling to give up the financial

(40:08):
aid that's needed for theseplaces to exist like mental,
like mental hospitals, like justyou know yeah not all of them
are bad people, no, so you knowI'm not saying, but some of them
really really need it.
Dude like you, you know theyshouldn't be out in public
pushing people on trains or youknow, that's never.
Come on man.
Like you know, it's ridiculous.
So we just hope everybody's outthere staying safe and you know

(40:31):
, just you know, be aware ofyour surroundings.
I see a lot of people walking.
Dude, they'll be on their phone, and not that there's nothing
wrong with that, but it's justanywhere, bro, like you, you
honestly, anywhere, it seemslike nowadays is a goal zone.
You could be downtown, youcould be in the heart of
downtown and people are gettingsnatched up for their phones or
shot, and it's unfortunate.

(40:52):
Yeah, you should be able to goanywhere, really, without having
to worry about any of that, butthe reality is.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
I mean, that's weird because it's like In Colorado,
when that happens, that happensin a mass scale.
When it happens here, it justhappens to like one or two
people.
Yeah, I'm not really laughing,but it's kind of a funny thing
when you think about it.
But it's only because ithappens out here so often.
As opposed to over there ithardly ever happens.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
If I'm not mistaken, I think there was a shooting in
Colorado like two days ago orsomething.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
No, Well, I wouldn't doubt it.
There's shooting everywhere,but I mean what I'm saying is I
mean there's shooting inColorado.
People go shooting guns all thetime in Colorado.
It's just never used in aviolent form.
There's a lot of hunting goingon up there.
There's a lot of you're in themountains, so it there's a lot
of hunting going on up there.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
You're in the mountains, people go up there to
shoot their guns.
You think you ever heard aboutthat story, about that one vice
president who shot his friendand said mistakenly that he
thought he was a bear, orsomething like that.
You mean Dick Cheney, I think.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
You believe that bullshit?
Yeah, I know Something happened.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
That dude was a bulldog.
Dick Cheney was a knowSomething happened.
He said you slept with my wife.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
That dude was a bulldog.
Dick Cheney was a bulldog.
Something happened.
Dick Cheney, I think, has a lotto do with what's happening in
the Republican Party right now.
I think he still has a biginfluence over the Republican
Party, him and the Bushes.
To be honest with you, actually, I keep hearing that.

(42:21):
The Bushes, to be honest withyou, actually, I keep hearing
that the Bushes might be comingback.
George W Bush, not him, hecan't run anymore.
Oh, his fight, more likely JebJeb Bush.
How many Bushes are there?
I'm not sure, but I think thismight be the last one.
But yeah, I think he's theoldest.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
I don't know, dude, it's just.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
But if that's the case, then yeah, I'm sure he's
going to win.
Oh, he'll most, He'll most.
If a Bush runs president, it'sMight as well just say race is
over, let's not even do this.
I can't what are we eventalking about?

Speaker 1 (43:00):
just give him the damn office already, fuck I
thought presidents couldn't runfor a second year.
I thought it was only you couldbe president once in your life,
and that's it.
That's what I'm saying.
But how come trump waspresident twice then?

Speaker 2 (43:17):
okay, so if you got elected For one term, which is
four years, and you don't getelected again the next year,
then you can run again.
Oh, that's why he can't runagain After this term, because
this is his second term andthat's it.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
That's it.
So you only get Like, so youonly get two terms.
If you didn't get the term Backto back, the first two terms
Back to back, yeah you get, ifyou didn't get the term
back-to-back, the first twoterms.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Back-to-back, yeah, you get two terms, no matter
what Right, win or lose, whetherit's back-to-back or whether
it's now and you're fortunateenough to live long enough.
Two elections down the road orsomething like that.
You know what I'm saying.
Three elections down the road.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
You know.
So yeah, w Bush can't Dub,can't.
Dove can't run again.
Clinton can't run again, obamacan't run again.
Obama would probably still beable to, would be his youngest
president to, I believe maybe ifhe were able to run again.
I think he would get electedagain if he were to run later.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
But you know he had a lot of popular votes, like a
lot of popular people.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
I just you know, I don't remember all this turmoil
when he was president.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
Me neither, because you know what it was.
I feel like he was a smoothtalker.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
I'm sure it was, but I'm sure there was all sorts of
shit happening.
But then again too, I reallywasn't into the political scene
in those days either.
You know what I'm saying.
Did you see, I'm older now so,yes, I pay a little bit more
attention To the current eventsand the State of the Government.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
Yo, he probably said he said he did his four years
and said, ah, fuck that, I'm out.
Did you see the picture Likebefore when he went into
presidency?
He was young Obama.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
He was young dude and then, when he came out, he did
two terms.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Huh, he did eight years oh yeah, oh yeah, he said
he was Well.
I mean, yeah, he definitelylooked a lot older.
I mean obviously I mean it's,he looked way older.
I think, he's only like 50years old.
He was like 37 when he but when?

Speaker 1 (45:08):
you're dealing with like all that you know.
Just everybody like, yeah, butyou're not right.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
There wasn't too much turmoil, like People were going
nuts.
Well, I mean, how do you thinkhe felt?

Speaker 1 (45:21):
I mean, he said we made it baby.
He said we done it.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Black people in lesser power got killed for less
.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
So to be the president.
That's what I'm saying.
And he had his inaugurationdowntown Chicago, dude.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
Yeah, I know he went down.
I was here when that shithappened.
I was living here.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
That was legendary Yep it was that made it like
dude.
That put Chicago on the map tooin a way.
I mean Chicago's always been onthe map.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
Yeah, but now, look, dude, the thing that's sad is,
yeah, but the thing too, the sadpart, is that I think he was
kind of what put Chicago on themap before he was president.
You know, he was in the sceneshere doing his things to make.
I mean, I don't know, it seemedto me like things were a lot

(46:05):
smoother out here then.
Definitely, I feel like maybenot crime wise, but like
government wise government,local government wise yeah yeah,
dad, and um crime has alwaysbeen an issue in chicago and
major cities anyways, right nowit's just a lot of people visit
for the downtown.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
The downtown is beautiful and on most cities you
know.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
So now that he got since he got elected president,
he's not back over here anymore.
I don't think he's doinganything?

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Oh dude, I wouldn't it's like.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
That's why I think that's one of the reasons why
the city's gone.
You know, it's still abeautiful city, dude, don't get
me wrong, definitely, and itsucks, dude.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Because, yeah, dude, sometimes you can't really walk
down the streets of downtownChicago, no more.
You used to be able to walkdown the streets of downtown
Chicago at 12, whatever time, noproblems, no more.
So-so, now I feel like you gotto keep your head on a swivel,
like you know.
I mean no matter what, rightMost of the times, like even
back in the days, like you know,depending on the area, but it

(47:00):
feels like more it's less aboutthe area, and now it's more like
, everywhere you go is kind oflike you just got to keep your
head on a swivel, dude.
It's just, you know, it's noteven about.
Back in the day, dude, it almostused to seem like certain areas
you know you couldn't, youshouldn't go to, not that you
couldn't, but you shouldn't goto.
Now it feels like everything isso widespread and that, um,

(47:22):
these kids not even kids, likethere's a, there's adults too
that you know you can't, youcan't really have a good time.
Dude, all these bars are gettingshut up, and not that it's not
been happening before, it's just, yeah, dude, it used to be
certain parts, bro, I remember.
Now they're saying you go upnorth to like wrigleyville and,
um, their people are gettingrobbed, or you know what I mean.
And yep, like I said, dude, notthat that has not have been

(47:45):
happening before, but I feellike before maybe this is, maybe
it's just my opinion, right,but before it was certain areas
you knew like, all right, if Igo here, I really got to be
careful, but you know when, whenyou would go up north you would
feel safe, or when you would goaround downtown you would feel
safe, or you know, now it's likeyou go around and there's still
people, there's still a lot ofpeople, but I feel like some of
these kids are just getting likethey don't care, no more, you

(48:07):
know yeah they just don't care.
And that's the thing, bro.
That's the thing that sucks isis um a bunch of brand new
people just getting exactly noreason exactly they're trying to
hit their target or whoeverthey're looking for, and they
don't care who's in the crowd.
They don't care, no more.
They're just spraying up thewhole crowd now, king.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Bon, where was he from?
Was he from here?
Yeah, he was from Chicago, okay.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
You know, most of those guys are from Chicago.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
Most of those guys were from All those.
They were all considered Hitmen, weren't they?

Speaker 1 (48:35):
Yeah, they were like local.
Like you know, I'm not, I'm notreally.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
I was watching that one episode with Zevi.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
Oh yeah, yeah, he's a cool guy.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Yeah, shout out to him.
I like his episode.
I like the way he explainsstuff.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
Yeah, he's funny.
Yeah, yeah, he is.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
But he was talking about how he had beef with some
other gang out here or whatever,and he had heard that this girl
who was another hit woman ohyeah, yeah, I heard about that
was out for him and then theyended up getting each other's

(49:09):
numbers and I guess they werechatting or whatever and he's
like telling them oh dude, Ithink I just fell in love and
blah, blah, blah.
He was all falling in love withher and he's like I don't even
notice how I dress.
You can tell she's not intodudes.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Yeah you can tell she was like I don't know what
you're coming at me for, but Ithink he was just probably
excited that she was likeshooting too Like oh, you're
shooting at people too.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Romeo met you.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Like you know what that's.
Like Bonnie and Clyde yeah, youknow what I'm talking about.
We could be the next BonnieClyde.
Right right, we could be thenext Rod.
Blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Right, right, no, no, I heard about that.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
I mean, you got to admit though.
How cute would that?

Speaker 1 (49:49):
have been, you know, dude, like it's like when you
meet that other woman, that'sjust like that kind of matches
your craziness or matches yourenergy.
You feel like that like, ohshit, we could take on the world
like me and you.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
You know what I mean like me and you, girl, we go,
yeah, yeah, you know, but that'scrazy, though.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Like to think, like he was, like to think that
someone would fall in love withtheir enemy, like shooting at
them, like damn, she's shootingat me.
Damn bro, I think I'm in love,bro, shoot me, she's shooting at
you, marry me right.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
Bullets flying and shit like hold on, tell your
boys, don't, don't kill her.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
Don't kill her.
That's funny.
You know, let me deal with this.
Yeah, bro, like hey baby, youreally don't wanna hurt me.
You really don't wanna hurt me,you love me.
You know she's like what do youmean?

Speaker 2 (50:30):
You know, I twisted you.
I mean I ain't talking shit.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
No, no, no, dude, it happens, dude.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Some women.
Dude, some men are into that,some crazy some men are into
crazy, I'll admit it, bro likeum, you know that, uh, have you
ever seen?
End of watch yeah, the police,yeah, yeah, so you, know that
that home girl, the home girlthat's rolling with that, that
was rolling with them oh yeah,she's down she's out there, she

(50:59):
has that chick on her lap andshe's yeah yeah, she's see
that's where you chick on herlap.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
Yeah, yeah, see.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
That's her.
You want the sex people to hangout with me?
I can get you anything you want.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
Yeah, there's real chicks like that, I'll admit it
bro.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
I fell in love dude.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
That's what I'm saying, bro.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
I want to know who that is.
She's a rapper?
I guess yeah.
A rapper?
I guess yeah, but she's fun asall hell and just that
confidence I don't know, bro,I'm dominated by her.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying.
She's driving.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
But then again too, it's like that Caitlin Clark's
bodyguard, her the chick, herteammate, that's always
defending her too.
I'm in love with that chick too, man, just the chick, her
teammate, that's alwaysdefending her too.
I'm in love with that chick too, man, just Throwing bows on.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
Throwing bows on hoes , I know what you're talking
about, what you know is.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Everybody got their different, their different types
and everything.
So yeah, dude, but it is.
It is some straight upSometimes you'll hear.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
You'll hear like I love me a mama bear, I guess, is
what I'm saying, man.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
A mama bear.
Let me reiterate Mama bear youknow, Pop in there, fuck all
that.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
And there's no, no miscousy.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
No miscousy stuff and that's alright To each their
own.
I'm not saying you know.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Right right.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
I hate the the other way around.
Just I just wanna.
I just wanna make it known topeople.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Right, make that clear.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, you know, here at theShakedown we really do
appreciate you guys Staying withus all the way.
You got.
Anything else you wanna add onor Um?

Speaker 2 (52:39):
Nah, not, we're almost at the hour.
I mean, what about you?

Speaker 1 (52:42):
You have any last quick thing you want to talk
about, because we're like we'reat 53 minutes right now yeah, we
could just give them a quicklittle another five minutes or
whatever, and then we can callit good, we're almost there yeah
, we could just throw in a quicklittle news story about what
news story you got, buddy.
So, speaking of Colorado, bro,these guys hit up one of those

(53:02):
breech trucks with all the moneyin it Brink trucks.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Yeah, dude, really.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
You didn't hear about it.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Wow, that's surprising dude.
No, no, we're not surprised,that stuff only happens like in
big cities.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Well, no, no, I don't know what part of Colorado, but
supposedly they couldn't haulaway with the money because it
was too much, it was too heavy.
You know what I mean.
Nah, that's just greed gettingto you right there, you know
what I mean, that's just greedgetting to you right there buddy
, I guess they got caught, theygot caught because of their own
greed.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
Basically, is what got them caught.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
But it was like damn how much money was really in
there for the bags to be thatheavy dude.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
But still it's like really.
You can't risk a few hundredthousand, a million, a half a
million or half a million.
Just dump about half a milliondollars and just be on your way.
True, true.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
But it's like dude, like Dude, but in the movies
they make it seem like so easy.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
A bag full of money, oh yeah because those guys do
the research and a lot of thoseguys eventually at one point
worked for one of those places.
You know, people don't go intostealing from these places
without knowing exactly howthese places work.
Places without knowing exactlyhow these places work.
Dude, that'd be pretty stupiddude you know what?
stupid to do something like thatwithout they haven't done any
research some people do it andget away with it, though yeah,

(54:10):
but I mean yeah you know howlucky you got again, believe me,
those people, those people havedone the research you
understand what I'm saying, yeah, they're equipped for anything
and everything.
True, they got scanners a lotof times they usually have an
inside man dude.
Yeah, I mean look at look atall those movies, all those.
A lot of times they usually havean inside man, dude.
I mean, look at all thosemovies.
All those movies are the sameway they usually have an inside
man, no matter what dude.
There's no way you can do anysort of heist like that.

(54:31):
That's high security, high tech.
Without Some bypass, no, withouthaving had an inside man at one
point, there's no way Breakthem off real nice I mean, look
at that one dorky kid that wasstealing millions and millions
of dollars out of banks thatwere in the process of being

(54:51):
built before they even openedtheir doors.
Those branches were losingmillions of dollars because he
would hide out in vents, dude,for days, on days just sitting
there watching the guy put inthe ATMs and looking and seeing
putting video cameras andwatching how they program the,
the ATMs and all that shit.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
that's the only way he was able to.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
That's the only way he was bottles and shit.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
I would have been like what's that smell?
Something dripping on my head?
Well, yeah, I mean bottles orwhatever, I don't know
Sandwiches.
That's crazy, that's dedication.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
That show might be on Netflix.
I'll see if I can remember whatit's called.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
What ended up happening is that he met this,
really this lady that was fromhigh class, like I guess her dad
was an ambassador, worked inthe ambassador in, like, I think
, poland or one of thosecountries like that, and he had
went with his, with her, becausethey were engaged at the time
to go visit them and they, theyhappened to take a tour through
one of the castles and there wassome sort of a hair jewel or

(56:07):
something, jewelry or somethingthat you clip on your hair that
belonged to one of the queens orsomething, and there was like
one or three that were.
It was from this famouspainting where she was wearing a
whole bunch of them but therewas only three left in existence
and one of them was there andhe ended up stealing it somehow.

(56:28):
Yeah, and then that's, it's agood.
It's a good doc bro.
It's a good doc bro, it reallyis.
But, yeah, they, he ended upgetting caught after, I think, a
decade or two decades ofjacking money and not getting

(56:50):
caught.
Is that the Paris Spider-Man?
No, no, no, he was Canadian, Ithink, and he got arrested.
He served, I think, 10, 15years in jail and I think he's
out years in jail and I thinkhe's out now because they were
interviewing him.
He was the one telling thestories yeah, it's crazy stuff

(57:11):
can't take some people nowhere.
I guess we're pretty much there,bro.
Might as well just 57 minutes.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
Be careful who you take to the museums with you.
But no dude.
Like I said, we reallyappreciate you guys staying
tuned.
Hope you enjoyed the show.
Like we say, we know we're upand coming.
We're gonna continue to.
We're up and coming here at 8AStudios yes, sir, shout out to
that.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Still doing, trying to do it ourselves still leave a
comment sometimes what do youcall it?
Sometimes the quality might notbe that great.
I know last week's last episodesounded like I was doing a

(57:56):
remote interview from somewhereelse, but no, that was just me
still trying to figure out howto edit audio and all that stuff
.
So I felt like, rather, ratherthan mess it up more or in the
run the risk of losing it, Imight as well just stop messing
with it even more and just leaveit like that and just post it
up.
So that's what I did.

(58:17):
Yeah, so we do apologize if thesound quality was kind of hard
last last episode.
Hopefully this episode isbetter.
You know how we do it raw anduncut.
Raw and uncut here.
Well, yeah, stay tuned too, wemight also look.
We're going to be looking intochanging the name.
We're just trying to figure outwhat.

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