We Don’t Know What We’re Doing, But We’ll Tell You How To Do It Anyway

Fresh snow at 3 a.m. and the quiet crunch underfoot set the mood for a wide-open creative path: nobody’s walked it yet, so we might as well. We open with that scene because starting a podcast feels the same—untouched, a little intimidating, and oddly peaceful once you take the first step. From there, we get practical and transparent about the early choices that matter: naming the show, building cover art that actually pops, and learning our way around mic positioning, voice control, and a steady intro cadence that welcomes listeners without fluff.

We talk honestly about discouragement, because the early numbers can sting. DIY means slower growth, more trial and error, and a longer runway before momentum hits. The fix isn’t magic; it’s routine. Read more, watch smarter, pull topics from news and niche channels, then mix in levity so the feed doesn’t feel like homework. One of us leans goofy, the other goes news-heavy, and that contrast keeps the energy balanced. We also press into culture talk—how audiences react to big artists and language, what “global” really means for entertainment, and why some folks always find something to argue about.

Real life keeps sneaking into the studio in the best ways. We map out hunting goals and an ice fishing hut fantasy purely for the story value, swap heating hacks for drafty apartments, and laugh at the small pains of city life. Then we set our sights on video: filming local food challenges as our first on-camera experiments, using those moments to drive clips, search visibility, and community. To support deeper content, we tease a Patreon with raw bonus episodes and guest cameos, plus some original music drops to add seasonal flavor.

If you’re building your own show, steal this playbook: pick a name you can grow into, ship simple cover art fast, practice mic distance and tone, and show up on schedule until it feels natural. Curate two timely ideas and one personal story per recording, and don’t fake polish—share progress. Subscribe, drop a rating, and tell us what segment you want filmed first. Your feedback helps shape our next move.

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Episode Transcript

Shooter (00:00):
Everybody's just doing it walking around like NPCs.
We're not taking the sameround.
We don't see each other.
Oh nobody wants to talk to eachother.
Everybody's like just like nodude.
Like no dude.
You're fucking built.
That's just dope.
If you look, if you look, it'sfucking dude like this.
I understand.

(00:40):
You know what I mean?
And I understand that like it'sstill like they're still
instead of certain things, likeit is really snowy early.
Exactly, bro.
Like like just you know what'sthe beautiful thing, bro, when
you wake up in a winter morningand it's early and it's like one

(01:02):
of those nights where nobodyreally works, yeah, and the and
you just see the snow, but thestreets are still like covered
in snow, like nobody's reallystepped on them yet.
Or like you just go out thereand you build a snowman.
Whatever happens now.

Mac G (01:15):
I mean, I don't know.
I catch them all the timemyself.
I mean, I I even uh Ispecifically like working, used
to like working, I still likeworking graveyard shifts, but I
haven't worked them in a while.
But I would work graveyardshifts in Colorado, and then
we'll get out like at 3 o'clockin the morning, and I would get
off the because it was like kindof outside, like I don't know,

(01:38):
15 miles outside of the cityafter taking the bus, but then
it would be like a 30-40 minutewalk.
A walk?
A 30-40 minute walk home fromthe bus stop.
You would walk it?
Yeah, well, yeah.
I mean, I had muck boots on,and I had, you know, winter
clothes, because you're I'm whenyou're in Colorado, you're

(01:59):
prepared.
And so, anyways, like it wouldsnow, it would be blizzard all
night, like around start likearound 10.
Get off at 3, it'd be likeabout uh four inches of snow,
and it'd just be all untouched.
Just blankets of untouched snoweverywhere.
Beautiful thing.
One of the best things.
No cars anywhere.
It's not like here where likepeople are outside one way or

(02:19):
the other.
I'm talking like untouched uhuh streets in the middle of the
neighborhoods, no uh tire marks,no nothing.
Just blankets of smooth, smoothsnow.
You know what's funny?
Beautiful stuff, quiet, serene.
Nice.

Shooter (02:40):
You know what's funny when you're by yourself,
especially and you just hearthat crunchy noise when you're
stepping on the snow.
Oh, yeah.
Dude, that thing sounds likethe loudest.
I feel like I'm waking up thewhole neighborhood.
I hear this cringe.
It certainly does.
Yep.
And it's just you.
Mm-hmm.

Mac G (02:53):
Yep.

Shooter (02:55):
You know, and um, I do want to bring up the fact that
we did kind of just uh upgradeon some of these uh uh
platforms.
Did you?
Yeah, for uh for the pods,because we might be bringing a
new thumbnail.

Mac G (03:11):
Yeah, we're gonna be doing that here pretty soon.
We're gonna be doing a fewthings actually since the
beginning of the show.
We're trying to uh make itabout uh the start of this
podcast, we're trying to make itall about starting a podcast.
We are thinking about changingthe name, but I think I'm pretty
used to the shakedown.
Like I said, I think if westick to our whatever DJ names

(03:33):
you want yours to be, I'm stillI I like mine.
As long as we do do that,that'll uh distinguish us from
the other shakedowns for sure.
Uh that's another thing is ispicking the name.
Sometimes it's best to do yourresearch, but go ahead.

Shooter (03:47):
No, I like the shakedown, I'm not gonna lie.

Mac G (03:49):
Yeah, I do too.
And like I said, as long as weput like with you and MACD,
because you you shoot it rightnow, but I don't know.
I don't know if you want tochange that.
And that's a good example, too,is you know, always do do your
research, plan a little bitahead of time.
And like I said, the best thingabout starting a podcast is
that you can always change,completely change stuff and all

(04:12):
that.
It's uh change the name, changethe appearance, change the what
the podcast is about at anygiven point.
Because if you don't know whatyou're doing to begin with,
you're definitely gonna run intoa whole bunch of trial and
error.
And but eventually you will endup finding I'm good right now.
Eventually you will end upfinding your own um uh I guess

(04:33):
routine.
And things will get easierafter it's all about repetition,
really.

Shooter (04:39):
I just want to ask you, what are three top things you
would give to someone coming up,like technical, like the three
top things that we've run intoso far?
That's that's kind of liketechnical difficulties or like
finding a name, or like I don'tthink finding the thumbnail was
really an issue.
That was going to be a goodidea.

Mac G (04:58):
The bus brought definitely helps you with uh
connecting you with Canva.
I uh the higher up in the tierand subscription you are, the
the easier it makes it for youto make a a better thumbnail.
So for me, cover art for yourpodcast.

Shooter (05:14):
You have experience in radio, you have experience with
music, you have experience witha lot of things.

Mac G (05:19):
I think for me personally, my one thing was
getting in front of the mic.
Yeah, for definitely for you.
But you know, I give you a fewpointers and whatnot about uh
when you first hit the mic,because I know it is kind of
nerve-wracking.
It even was for me startingthis thing off.
And that's I mean, buthonestly, you came at it like in

(05:47):
a good set of mind, good vibes.
It it took it didn't reallyeven take you that long to find
uh to find your footing andeverything else.
So I have to give you props forthat.
So other than that, you know,like it's like I told you, you
know, positioning your mic, youknow, that's that's definitely
something you want to work on.
Positioning your mic, makingsure you you keep a certain

(06:10):
volume to your to your voice,and also trying to just talk to
the mic as as much as possible,and then just finding a
comfortable position, andobviously you're gonna have to
shift every once in a while andall that.
But aside from that, you know,I did also give you some
pointers on how to start off thethe beginning of the show.
You always want, you know, wealways every show has its way of

(06:32):
introducing the show.
Some people like to let it letit run a little bit live and
then be like, hey, this is theshow.
That's kind of what we're doingright now.
Hopefully, you guys like that.
It's something I've beenworking on still.
And eventually maybe we mighthave some more sound effects.
I know we are planning ongetting a co-host on here at
some point.
And hopefully a new host.
Yeah.

(06:52):
And we and you know, we we wekeep repeating these things in
almost every uh show, but it'sjust to let you guys know that
this is a hopefully those thatare interested in starting a
podcast, this is the slackerversion of that.
This is the DIY version of allthat.
Here at 8A Studios, it's allDIY, and I do live above bar, so

(07:13):
it's a lot of it's a bikerenthusiastic bar uh bar.

Shooter (07:21):
So the other thing I do want to talk about
discouragement, discouragement.
Or like, I remember I don't wantto go into much into details.
No, no, go ahead.
One time I did come in here andsay, hey, this doesn't work,
I'm out.
But you know, I was kind of I'mnot gonna lie.
But did I just want to talkabout to people out there who

(07:42):
who feel like it sometimes theyfeel like what if it doesn't
work?
What if I'm just wasting mytime?

Mac G (07:47):
Well, honestly, that's the first thing you want just
like I told you when we firststarted this, like the first
thing you need to realize thatif you're not doing this for the
curiosity of learning somethingto start off and knowing that
you it might take you a whilebefore you get any downloads and
stuff, it's gonna take time.
You not not everything, youknow.

(08:08):
Yeah, you get your very fewamount of people that manage to
like get a lot of hits after oneor two videos or whatever, like
that.
And you know, that's that'sawesome.
But most people, the reality ismost people that there's
millions of millions ofpodcasts, well thousands of
podcasts out there.
A lot of them are just barelystarting off, some of them are

(08:30):
just barely ending after justbarely starting.
But because you get thescourged, and uh that's
understandable.
You just have to know andunderstand that especially if
you're starting this thing DIY,you can't be expecting a lot.
Especially us, because we don'thave any sort of so web
presence either.
I I know I certainly don't.

(08:52):
I know you don't.
I know our co-host, I'm callingyour home slice.
We'll see if that's what shewants to go by when she starts.
Uh when she comes on here, herein the next uh week or so.
I just gotta figure out sometechnical stuff.
But I know she has a prettygood web presence and has a lot

(09:12):
of friends and followers and allthat stuff, so maybe she can
help us in that end of thiswhole thing.
Yeah, definitely.
So definitely, you know, I didhave one more, bro.
I had one more.
Uh one more what?
Question?

Shooter (09:28):
It was about the podcast, dude.
I had it on the tip of mybrain.
And is it about content?
No, you know, we could talkabout content till I find it
again, but it was just oneimportant thing that I but yeah,
as far as content, you know,because I know a lot of people
are probably coming to the tableand thinking the easiest part I
think of a podcast is sittinghere and just talking about

(09:49):
content.
Yeah, yeah.
That sounds like the easiestpart to me.

Mac G (09:52):
Well, I mean finding content is different depending
on what the show is.
I mean, it really it's it'sabout interests, finding your
interests, really.
Right now, we talk whateverstuff we do talk about, aside
from starting the the if it'snot about starting the podcast,
it's hopefully giving you anidea and giving you examples and
to segues into starting apodcast.

(10:13):
Because finding things to talkabout are definitely it's the
hard honestly, if you're prettytech savvy and you're you have
you have the gusto for this andand figuring this stuff out,
you're gonna really find outthat for me because that's where
I'm stuck at is just I findmyself reading the news a lot.

(10:35):
Excuse me.
Reading the news a lot.
I find myself uh watchingYouTube videos a lot of certain
subjects and if it's somethingthat really interests me, I will
watch as much as I can of it soI can have something to talk
about when we get on here.

Shooter (10:51):
Alright.

Mac G (10:52):
But it's all about the news, really, because that's
what most people are interestedin is current events.
So what about you?
How do you find that to be onyour end with the content?

Shooter (11:04):
You know, I like goofy content, I like bringing
something funny.
I don't always want to beserious here because the news
does bring a lot of seriousness,and and and it is serious
business, and it is somethingthat we should talk about here.
And at the same time, I do liketo bring, you know, laughs and
you I I like to keep it loosehere.

Mac G (11:23):
Yeah, well, I mean it is the shakedown, right?

Shooter (11:25):
Right, you know, so I don't want people to tune in and
be like, damn, they're alwaysserious.
Yeah, not the tight.
Yeah, no, but it is it is anoccurring thing in our world,
and it is something that we'rethat we should all that we
should just touch on, you know.
Right, right.

Mac G (11:37):
And then that's that's the beauty about this podcast,
is you know, it's we're reallynot uh serious guys.
I mean, we try to stayinformed, but we're not the
brightest of dudes.
At least I'm not.
I'm I don't know about myhomeboy here.
I don't want to speak for him.

Shooter (11:54):
No, you know, you know I I try my best.
That's that's what I can say.

Mac G (11:57):
Exactly.
That and that's all I'm sayingis like more than anything, take
what we say with a grain ofsalt.
I mean, we're not trying toteach you.
About you just our point ofviews on some of the topics that
people like to bitch andcomplain about, like the bad
bunny situation with Saturdaynight.
I didn't even watch any ofthat, but what happened with Bad
Bunny?
I guess people were complainingthat he was oh they're

(12:20):
complaining that about him doingthe he's gonna do the halftime
show for Super Bowl?
Yeah.
What's wrong with that?
I don't think anything, butapparently people are
complaining.

Shooter (12:35):
You know, I noticed that uh people will find
anything to complain about.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah.

Shooter (12:39):
Yeah, yeah.
Just people, I just feel likesome people wake up and just
want to argue about anything.
You could that you could tellthem, hey, this is a potato,
it's been a potato since sinceyou know, since we've been
alive, and they'll be like, no,that's not a potato.
They'll just want to argue withyou.
They'll be like, well,technically, it's like bro, you
know what I mean?

Mac G (12:56):
No, yeah, I understand.
You know, believe me, I'veknown plenty of people like
that.
And no, too, yeah, I yeah,believe me.
I I don't understand it either,but it is what it is.
I think it's because he'sHispanic and his lyrics are in
Spanish, really.
Most of his lyrics.
Actually, I think all of hislyrics are in Spanish, aren't
they?
Does he have any English?
Yeah, he's got some Englishones, probably, but like they're

(13:18):
makes a little bit of English,a little bit of Spanish.
Right, exactly.
It's just I think what they'retrying to do.
That's the biggest thing is thewhole speak English.
America, America.
That that sort of shit.

Shooter (13:27):
I think the thing is they don't NFL probably thought,
you know what?
We can make more money if weput somebody on there who's
who's who's worldwide.
Somebody, most of these people,dude, Michael Jackson was
worldwide, but when you putsomeone up there who's Spanish
speaking, they probably bring alittle bit more money because
oh, it's bad bunny.

Mac G (13:45):
So now a couple of it's really just about who's big,
right?
Who's big, really, right?
I mean, isn't that why they hadKendrick on there?
Yeah, I don't know.

Shooter (13:53):
I don't really listen up bad to the to the dude.
You know, I don't really Ireally don't either.
So I don't know.
Maybe he is popular, maybe heis number Isn't that like
reggaeton or something?
Yeah, he's like like reggaetonkinda, I guess.

Mac G (14:03):
Yeah, it's not much though.
Is that your last one or isthat my last one?
You sure?

Shooter (14:08):
Yeah, I got my three in.
So we got over the whole ifyou're not if you're if you're
not used to being on the mic,that's gonna be a thing that
you're gonna have it come.
If you're if you're havingdoubts, we talked about doubts.
And there was another thing Iwanted to touch up on.

Mac G (14:29):
And it's basically just loosen up and have fun on that
last question.
No, no, that's the thing.
The flow of the show.

Shooter (14:35):
Are you gonna do it by yourself?

Mac G (14:36):
Are you gonna do it with it?
Exactly.
That's like I said, that's allabout that all goes goes in with
the planning, you know.
You don't just like what do wedo?
We talked about the show forfor like what a week or so
before we even, you know.
Oh well no, I guess we got wegot the the pad right first, and
then the podcast pad, and thenwe kind of like two days before

(14:58):
we did our first episode, we'relike, all right, so what are we
gonna call it?
And blah blah blah blah blah.
We talked about it for asecond.
It's the most professional I'veever been in my whole life,
bro.
We almost started doing ZoomZoom calls on each other and
stuff, bro.
I dude fucking have a Zoommeeting here, bro.
Face to face, bro.
You know, it feels and it feelsI started feeling like a proper
white person, bro.
No, it just it feels good tohave something at their work to

(15:22):
come to like to kind of likework on your own.
Had you busting out your ownlittle notepad, bro.
Yeah, dog.
You know, have a notepad.
Like, damn, my boy's takingthat shit serious.

Shooter (15:32):
I mean it's it's fun, dude, and the way I see it, it
is fun, but we're only goingdude.

Mac G (15:38):
And we're only going up from here.

Shooter (15:39):
That's what it seems like to me.
Nowhere but nowhere from herebut up, man.
You know, and and I'm gonna I'mI'm in no rush.
I I like I said, I want to putup, I want to put out good
quality for our people.

Mac G (15:49):
Yeah, eventually we'll get there to get better quality.
Eventually we'll get to videotoo.
You know, that's that's thewhole thing about this.
That's where this is like Ifigured if we we don't know what
we're doing, we might as welltell the people, hey bro, just
check it out.
We don't know what the fuckwe're doing, but we're gonna
tell you about we're gonna tellyou about it.
We'll tell you about somestuff.
Let me tell you about some shitwe don't know.
We don't know how to do it.
Exactly.
But no, let's tell you aboutsome shit that how to do some

(16:12):
shit we don't know how to doourselves.

Shooter (16:15):
And I and I want to take the time to to uh to thank
every one of our people outthere that listening into it.

Mac G (16:21):
Yeah, shout out to to all you guys, you know.
Shout out to the the goon squadout there that's uh listening
to us all.
We appreciate you.

Shooter (16:29):
On the way here, dude.

Mac G (16:31):
Goons and goonets alike.

Shooter (16:33):
Everybody, right?
We we like I said, it's uh it'sfor everybody here.
I understand.
I understand what people thinkabout podcasts.
They think, oh, it's a guything.
I'm pretty sure it is.

Mac G (16:43):
It usually is, and it usually is, right?
I mean, it's like if you wantto usually it's just women doing
crime podcasts, two crimepodcasts.
I mean, that's what I'venoticed really.

Shooter (16:54):
I'll listen to those.
I'll listen to those.

Mac G (16:55):
I mean, and that's not true, but my mainly when I most
of the podcasts, not that Ilisten to a lot, but I mean,
sometimes they'll have a femalehost on there, or some of them
do have like a female co-host,but it's usually like two dudes
and a female co-host.
Yeah, I hear you.
About the only one actuallythat that I had that I've seen
that isn't all dudes, it's aharp, harp lady.

(17:16):
Who uh I think her name is HarpLady.
Uh I don't think she's uh shesorry she I had talk about uh
today too after I had myhaircut, but um she reviews
pedal boards because she's uhshe plays harp.
She's a classically trainedharp harpist.

(17:37):
And very cool.
I like her I like her reviewsbecause I'm starting to get into
the whole techie side ofeverything and I'm actually
thinking about I mean I gotplugins on on this thing, but it
my son getting into my youngestgetting into the uh guitar too
before college and getting verytechnical with it.

(17:58):
Uh like doesn't even knowanything about the guitar, but
already he wants he wants thepedals and he wants all that
stuff.
So uh he kinda pushed me tokind of get a little bit more
interested in that part of itbecause I've never been in the
technical side of all that.

Shooter (18:16):
Well, you know, when this world started, somebody I
always think about how likethings started, right?
Somebody probably had an idea.
They didn't know what they weredoing.
They just said, you know what,let me just keep working on it
till it till it till I perfectit.
And even then, there's alwayssomething new to learn.
Benjamin Franklin, bro.

Mac G (18:33):
That's why it's like not there fluids.
What's gonna happen if I tie akey to this bitch?
You know what I mean?
What happens if I uh if I flythis thing out in the middle of
a storm and uh tie a key to it?
It's funny how the brain works,huh?

Shooter (18:48):
Funny how you humans work, how life works, how we
come so far.
Now you know, back then, dude,you had so you had to hunt for
your food.
Now you could just go take adrive, go take a walk to your
local grocery store.

Mac G (19:02):
I would really I I still I mean I'm I'm just trying to
get that too old, but I wouldreally at some point in the next
five years, I definitely wantto get my gun license, but I
definitely want to be able to goout there and hunt at least
once before I get too old.

Shooter (19:17):
Like real animals?

Mac G (19:18):
Yeah, I dude.

Shooter (19:19):
Oh, I can't.

Mac G (19:20):
I want to get uh I have a list, and not like predators or
anything.
Definitely uh edibles.
Oh, you mean like to eat keepand eat?
Yeah.
Oh, okay, that's different.
Yeah, see elk, deer for sure.
It's a turkey.
I wanna I wanna catch.
I want a bow.
I want a bow.
And this is all with bow.
I don't want to go, I don'twant to go out there.
I know I want to get my gunlicense.

(19:40):
I want to have a gun forprotection.
I want to have a licensebecause I'm an American, I want
to have the proper protection,the proper uh uh uh paperwork
for all that stuff, be legal.
And you know what I'm saying?
So I do want to go out thereand kill with a bow, though.
Oh, a bow and arrow.

(20:02):
I'd kill hunt and kill with abow.
A bow and arrow.
A bow and arrow, yeah.
Not a firearm.
Eventually, maybe a couple of,but like I I would I think I I
want to progress myself up.
So this this is just myopinion, right?
If possible, even one of those,what do they call those?
Uh uh?
Have you heard of those?
You never heard of an a lot?

(20:23):
It's it's weird.
It's like a a stick withanother stick.
It's coming, it's kind of likea like a lacrosse.
But it's like it's weirdbecause it's like a a stick that
has a hook that kind of haslike a like another kind of like
bow, like a hooked.
Almost looks like a boomerang.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Oh, okay, okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Mac G (20:48):
You just swing it and it throws the thing and just and
just hits something in the head,and it's like made of like
strong wood, and it hits you inthe head and you're just cracks
your skull, boom.
That's uh that's the first sortof thing.

Shooter (21:00):
You're talking about you're talking about oh okay,
never mind.
I'm talking about it.

Mac G (21:04):
Uh a lot.
A T L A T L.
A T L Yeah, A T L A T L.
It looks like a spear, but it'snot here's my thing.

(21:42):
You can even make it point ahook like a like a bow and
arrow.
You can make it like pointy,the stick pointy like an arrow.
That thing looks like someancient times though.
No, that's what I'm saying.
That's the early forms of uhthe fire firearms.

(22:05):
Besides, besides uh slingshots?
Slingshots, yeah.
Here's my thing.

Shooter (22:13):
I I don't I don't agree with killing animals just to
kill animals for a fun.

Mac G (22:17):
No, but to eat, yeah.

Shooter (22:18):
To eat's different, right?

Mac G (22:20):
Yeah, no, I know how to fish now.
I mean I I spent at least threeto four years, three to four
summers.
I want to go ice fishing.
Ice fishing?
I don't know if that'ssomething you'd be interested
in, but that'd be cool.
We can go up to Minnesota.
Because there's beer.
But the best part is that it'sa we get a hut.
It's a hut, dude.
Minnesota?
Yeah, dude.
It's a hut.

(22:40):
You never seen ice fishing?
I see an ice fishing.
You just sit on the ice and youfish.
No, sir.
That's that's like Eskimo stylestuff.
That's the Inuit style.
Like uh ice fishing, icefishing, bro.

unknown (22:53):
I see.

Mac G (22:55):
Like it's like lamp fishing, bro.
You go out in the middle of alake, it the lake is is thick
enough.
Some people you can even onsome lakes, like that's what I'm
saying.
Out in Minnesota, it gets coldenough in the wintertime.
You go out there in the middle,you can drive out into the ice,
right?
Onto these lakes on the icebecause it gets cold enough.
And then they have you can evensome places you can rent these

(23:20):
ice fishing sheds.
You know, I'm talking it's likea shed, bro.
It's like like imaginesomething from here to here to
here, to maybe maybe just behindyou, though.
That's like a nice one.
You know, the square, likethis.
Some square, just do you knowwhere that surface is behind
you, that door?
Just imagine some somethingsquare from here to here.

(23:42):
Like here.
Right?
You walk in, you have a littlewooden stove in there, bro.
It sits like just above theice, and it's got like a hole in
the middle, like a just acutout square.
You and they make the the holefor the on your ice.
Yeah, they make the hole on theice.
You just take off the thecover, right?

(24:05):
You've done it before?
You just no, but you see it inin you see it all the time, like
in TV shows and stuff.
It's a real thing.
And and uh you you have heat,you have a little shed, it's not
melting the ice beneath youbecause it's sitting above.
You know what I'm saying?
You have the hole in the centerof the of the shed, so you can

(24:25):
drop your lines.
And you have your sleep in theshed?
You you you might even be ableto sleep on the shed, yeah.

Shooter (24:31):
And it doesn't, and you're not gonna wake up
drowning.

Mac G (24:33):
I mean no, because it's the night is the nighttime is
the coldest time.
How the hell do the fishsurvive that cold?
Huh?
How the hell do the fishsurvive that cold?
The bigger ones do.
That's why it's always good tothat's why people like fishing
in the yeah.
It's not it's not that theythey the some of they they slow

(24:56):
down.
But they go down to the bottomof the lake.
And the bigger ones are able toto move a little faster than
the other ones.
So they they kind of flow andyou know, but there's a lot of
them.
Imagine there's a lot of themfloating down at the bottom of
the lake, kind of frozen up.
But then there's, you know, Ithink there's winter fish too
that do move around, but if thebigger ones they can't they can

(25:18):
move around enough to haveenough heat to you know move
around.
And I'm talking about big onesthough.
You just put your stuff inthere, be boom, be-boom, you set
it in there, you sit back, puta little bell on the line.
You know how to uh work thefishing gear.
Yeah, I do.
I I all I know is throw the rodin there and wait.
I don't know.

(25:38):
I mean that's all it is.
I don't know how to when with awith uh with ice fishing,
that's that's the beauty of it,is that it's not like you're fly
fishing, it's not like you'relike you're lake fishing, but
it's in a hole.
So it's not like you're likecasting, pulling the hole up and
dropping it down because thesefish aren't moving around like
it's the summertime, they'removing around way slower.

(26:00):
So it it and the thing is whenyou drop the line in fishing,
because it because it's a linethat just sinks down to the
bottom, what you do is you putdifferent levels, you put like
bait that that'll dangle up atthe bottom, because you put a
weight that'll carry it down,and you put like a little float
that'll help carry up someweight, carry up some bait, and

(26:23):
then along the line that's beingpulled way down by the anchor,
you put like another hook withbait, and then up the line a
little bit more, another hookwith more bait.
That way you're coveringdifferent levels of you know, at
least two, like you know, atleast 15 different to 50
depending on how the deep thelake is, you're covering at

(26:45):
least 10 10 to 15 feet ofelevations of the lake in case
fish are swimming by.
Somebody's gonna see something,you're gonna catch something at
some point.

Shooter (26:56):
Right.

Mac G (26:58):
And that's the best part is that it's it's not moving.
You just you can set your linethere and you just sit back and
wait for it to dangle, and thereyou go, you got one.
You ever caught a fish?
I've caught plenty of fish,yeah.
It's fun.
I like fishing.
I haven't had a chance to fishout here.
But I would love to.
I know my son definitely wantsto do something something like

(27:21):
that.
We've almost had a chance to ornot, but I don't have a vehicle
and and he's in college now, soyou got a vehicle?
Huh?

Shooter (27:30):
You got a vehicle?

Mac G (27:30):
Who?

Shooter (27:31):
Your son?

Mac G (27:32):
No, not my youngest, he's he's in college.
My my oldest does, but he'swe'll scoop him up and we'll go
fishing, kidnap him.
Well, I mean, we can now draghis ass out of college one day.
We'd have to wait till we'regoing fishing, motherfucker.
We we'd have to wait tillsummer.
I school.
Summer's always uh alwaysaround the corner.
Yeah, I mean, you need somecheddar though, because you

(27:53):
gotta rent these these shitthese sheds out and everything.
And you gotta get like a day ortwo of going out there.
I mean, Minnesota's what, likea what, 12-hour drive, if that
from here?
12 hours ain't nothing with afew beers.
You don't drink and drive here.
Yeah, no, you don't have todrink it with a few beers, with
a f well yeah.
No, no, no.

(28:13):
We don't drink and drive here.

Shooter (28:14):
No, yeah.
You get there and you have afew beers, those 12 hours won't
feel like nothing.
You know, as soon as you getthere, exactly.
As soon as you touch down, it'salways worth it.
It's always the you know, dude,it's always the journey.
Just enjoy the journey.
I feel like the city, bro, I'mnot gonna lie.
I feel like the city is such arush.
You know what I mean?
Like people are always rushing.
You get to work, then this andthat, and then even after work,

(28:37):
if if you gotta pick upgroceries.
Do you want to go fishing thisover?

Mac G (28:40):
I wouldn't mind.
Well, we gotta do it.
We gotta do properly though.
We gotta go get permits and allthat stuff.
It's like 25 25 bucks.

Shooter (28:47):
Yeah, Walmart, you can get them from Walmart if
anything.
Yeah, um that's not what youcall it.
I'm not a big fishing guy, butI do like sitting on a boat
having a few beers.

Mac G (28:55):
It's not expensive, dude.
Literally, you can get yourselfa cheap hole for like 10, 5, 10
bucks.
The one on clearance right now,if we go right now, or when it
starts snowing, you'll you canprobably find a decent one for
like really a one that you'llfind in the summertime for like
50, 60 bucks.
You could probably find for 25,20.
Like 20, 10, 15 bucks onclearance, because they'll they

(29:15):
cycle those things out likecrazy.
Yeah.
I believe then you can get youryou can get yourself a starter
tackle bait and all that stuff,depending on how hard you want
to go.
It sucks that you lost one ofyour picnic chairs, or one of
your lawn chairs.

Shooter (29:31):
Yo, dude, you can't have nothing out here in the
city.

Mac G (29:34):
Which one was it?
Was it the one with the cooler?

Shooter (29:36):
It was no, no, I got that one.

Mac G (29:37):
It was just a better one to take for fishing.
The one with the cooler?
Yeah.
That one's a better one to thecooler.
See, that's why that's why Iwant to go.
Maybe I had one exactly likethat that I would take fishing
with me.
Nice.
Mm-hmm.
I would keep uh you can keep asix pack six pack and no suckers
because that's what they'remade for.

Shooter (29:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's what they're made for.

Mac G (29:53):
They keep them cool.
You could throw ice in there.
Exactly right.
Yeah.
So I would take that and justgo.
Go to the nearest lake and justgo walk around and you know
it's they make a path for aroundthe whole lake.
What about some of these lakeslike that one we were at with
the green water?
I don't know about that's aswamp.
Nah, that's uh one of those uhlaboratories, catch reservoirs

(30:17):
or whatever they're called.
Maybe you know calling tellingyou they they make certain
little reservoir lakes like outin the middle of nowhere, ponds,
where companies drop theirindustrial waste to keep it
separate from from the rest ofyou know this the water.
Right.
No, I believe you.
But yeah, it's hot out here,you know?

(30:40):
Mm-hmm.
Is it hot in here?
Because I kind of feel likeit's hard out here for a pimp.
It's not always hard out herefor a pimp, bro.

Shooter (30:46):
It ain't easy being cheesy, man.

Mac G (30:48):
So what's going on today, bro?
You said you mentionedsomething about the Twilight
Zone.
I was just kind of, you know,you you good or what?
You know, the I don't know.

Shooter (30:58):
It just feels like for some reason if you wake up and
if you wake up throughout theday and you take a nap and you
wake up in the same day, itfeels like a glitch almost.
Like, I don't know.
I did and I don't use and Idon't like so when I wake up, I
like going throughout my dayuntil whatever time I go to
sleep, right?
I don't like waking up andtaking a nap in the middle of

(31:21):
the day because then I wake upand I feel like especially
around this time because the sungoes on earlier.
So when I wake up, it feelslike, oh damn, did I sleep
throughout the whole day, or youknow, and it's funny.
So it's just I don't know, man.
I just don't know what how toexplain it.
But this this world, this thisthing called life, it's a trip,

(31:45):
you know?

Mac G (31:46):
Sometimes dreams feel like they're not dreams.
Uh oh.
What did you dream about?
You know?
What did you dream about,buddy?
I I can't explain it.

Shooter (31:53):
It's just lately I've been having these weird dreams.
I did have a dream where I didsleep with the door open.
And I don't know, that's likesupposed to mean something.

Mac G (32:01):
Does it?
Sometimes they say dreams meansomething.
Because they sleep with thedoor opens all the time, bro.

Shooter (32:07):
No, but I mean the door to my apartment, not just the
door to my room.
The door to my apartment wasopen.

Mac G (32:12):
You know, you know why it feels that way?
Why is that?
Because if I'm assuming yousleep with your head towards the
window, huh?
No, I sleep with my headtowards the wall.
Towards the bathroom?

Shooter (32:23):
No, towards so the bathrooms on my left and my like
just like this.
So there's a window towards thewindow.

Mac G (32:28):
I remember the last time I saw it, it was kind of like
head to the horror.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I am pretty close to the windowthough.
Okay, but yeah, that I thinkthat's why.
And especially if you have thatopening that with that AC
there, dude, you're definitelygonna be hearing like outside
noise coming in, regardless ofwhether you have it on or not.
And especially if you don'thave it on, you're gonna hear

(32:51):
you're gonna hear stuff coming,definitely some noise, bro.
And it sucks, dude, thatthere's people, oh bro, just
yelling shit out there, bro.
I think you know, I thinkyou're right, dude.
I think that's who you are.
You might have to do somethinglike I don't know.
You know what you should dothat I would recommend grab some
measurements and make a make abox, make a wooden make a wooden
box, get some dimensions, makea wooden box that'll go over

(33:14):
that.
Over the the window, or yeah,because honestly, if it's a
heater, bro.
Oh one or two of those unitsright there.
Magnificent, bro.
I put that thing, I put thatthing in my room at the uh
medium level, that little space,that space heater right there,
that tower.
Yeah, dude, that thing'sperfect.
Perfect.

(33:35):
I mean you have to you have tobe careful where you place it,
just make sure it's not likeburn like combustible stuff
around it.
Right.
Perfect, dude.
It really does heat up thewhole place, bro.
I used to have, dude, I hadthose all the time.
The one place I lived at, bro,the lady, dude, she lit, she

(33:56):
wanted she kept the even inwintertime.
She she would keep the heaterat 65 degrees.

unknown (34:03):
Dang.

Mac G (34:04):
65.
65 degrees.
Even in wintertime?
Even in wintertime, bro.
That's cold.
It's cold.
I kid you not, it's cold, bro.
And this was an old house, oldranch style house that was
probably one of those, it'd beenaround for a minute, like 19, I
think this it'd been aroundsince like 19, I think, if I'm
right.
1930s, 1940s, bro.

(34:27):
1930s, dude.
So almost a year, 100-year-oldhouse, ranch style.
Might have even been younger,uh older, to be honest with you,
if I remember correctly.
And she kept the thing at six.
Well, I mean, yeah, yeah.
She she I mean, she rented, youknow, she was Section 8 or
whatever.
So, you know, it wasn't herhouse.

Shooter (34:46):
Right.

Mac G (34:47):
It was like a duplex with people on the other side, but
like, yeah, this thing like hadone single pane windows.
You know, those old, like,those old like aluminum frame
windows, you know what I'mtalking about?
Yeah, aluminum frames.

Shooter (35:01):
Aluminum frames.

Mac G (35:02):
Yeah, the old 70s aluminum frames.
I don't like the type of likethe type you see like on old
trailers.
Naha.
Yeah, exactly like that, dude.
Aluminum black frame like that.
Like nowadays, that's the thethe they call that white gold,
the that white PCV plastic forall these windows.
Yeah, that's the best way togo.
But before it was aluminumgold.
Yeah, before that it wasaluminum.

(35:23):
Yeah, why aluminum?
Because you see how it's cut uplike that?
Well, with aluminum, you coulddo the same thing and just screw
them on.
This is all glued on.
It's all pressed in and gluedon.
Oh you understand what I'msaying?
Yeah.
So I mean, they before theythey had the marvels of
adhesives and all this othercrap, because that's double
pane.

(35:43):
But the I'm telling you, theones over there, just single
pane, a single pane, bro, asingle pane of glass.
And every winter time, thosethings will crack, dude.
Every winter time, every wintertime, bro.
I'm telling you, at 65 degrees,I kept that sucker in a room
about as big as the the livingroom right there.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yeah.
Perfect, dude.

Mac G (36:03):
No problem.
And even if you put it all theway up with that door open for
the the door, if this was closedoff right there and you left my
bedroom door open right there,heat up both places perfectly,
dude.
And even has an automaticcutoff switch.
So if it gets too hot, uh if itgets the room gets to a certain
temperature, it reads theambient temperature.

(36:23):
So you know it'll get to acertain way, right?

Shooter (36:27):
Yeah, those are dope.
Those are nice.

Mac G (36:29):
But that's what I'm saying.
You still have to be carefulabout where you put it, where
it's facing.

Shooter (36:33):
Yeah, definitely.

Mac G (36:34):
You know, I remember Like me personally, I usually put it
right there at the door in thedoor area, right where the door,
if you close the door, rightthere.
In the entrance to the door,just put it right there, turn it
on.
Facing into the into my room.
With the door open, it stayshot enough with the air
circulating in and out.
Yeah, dude, perfect.
It's been getting cold in herethese nights.

(36:57):
Especially in the middle of thenight.
Yep.
Oh yeah, dude.
65 degrees.
I'm telling you.
I um I tried to turn on myheater, it started to smell.
That's what I'm telling you,dude.
It gave out this smell.
You're better off for justgetting, I'm telling you, get a
wooden box, make it getdimensions.

(37:19):
I I have a I have a tack, atack gun right there.
We could use that just to tackit all in.
If it just making you don'thave to make something so heavy
duty.
You can make something off oflike like plywood.

Shooter (37:32):
Yeah, no, I got yeah, definitely.

Mac G (37:34):
Yeah.
I'll help you if you uh helpyou get the wood and all that
stuff too.
I mean get the dimensions, likethe square, and then how far
out you need it.
We can try to make it tightenough to uh to make it
soundproof and uh kind ofweatherproof.
Cause dude, with with thatthere, bro, it's it's not, I'm

(37:59):
telling you.
I'm telling you, it's not it'snot thick metal.
It's you know, it's allplastic.
It's a flax plastic front andback or whatever.
Yeah, it is bottle squareenough, yeah, metal, metallic
enough.
I mean, it's you seen it.
Yeah, bro.
It's no one else.
I've never thought about it.
I never, you know, especiallywe hear somebody just kicked

(38:21):
that thing in.
Yeah, that's why I'm you know,that's why that's why when
you're gone.
That's why it that's why Iwould I I sleep good at night.
I mean, granted, during thedaytime, nobody's really gonna
do anything.
No, but I sleep good at nightbecause I got my I got my card.
You know, that's all I that'sall I want to say.

Shooter (38:39):
You know, that's all I want to say.

Mac G (38:40):
No, I understand, I understand, bro.
Okay, and I'm not I'm not tooworried.

Shooter (38:44):
I'm not too worried.
You know, it is weird.
Yeah, I'm not gonna lie, it isweird having that right there,
and yeah, I feel the same way.

Mac G (38:50):
It's just Oh, don't get me wrong.
For me, it would be heaven,dude.
I sleep so good here up hereabove this bar.
I'm one of those people thatlike, dude, some of the best
sleep I ever had as a kid was uhsleeping in the middle of
church, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
With all that noise happeningunderneath the pew, just all

(39:14):
bunched up, you know, like fouryears old, three years old, you
know, four years old, five yearsold, bunched up underneath the
pew, like it's stuffed withpeople.
You hear the preacher blah blahblah blah blah, and everybody's
quiet.
That's relaxing to me.
I don't know why, but that'salways been relaxing.
The sound of people walkingaround, even at the end of
church, that'd say underneaththat circuit just passed out

(39:36):
now.
Nice and cozy, just all bundledup.
You know, people walking aroundeverywhere.

Shooter (39:42):
Yeah.
Some uh some kids could fallasleep to that.

Mac G (39:44):
Yeah, well, I'm one-eared, so you know.
Oh, yeah.
That helps, right?
Yeah, that definitely helps.
Yeah, I have no idea how manytimes I've been I've been late
from from my my crochet.

Shooter (39:58):
Well, you know, like we like to uh say here.

Mac G (40:03):
What do we like to say here?
We say a lot of things here.
Remind me which one.
Always always check about yourpeople.

Shooter (40:09):
You know, give give your people a text, man.
Your family, your friends, ifyou know, just check about your
people, man.

Mac G (40:16):
Reach out and touch somebody, you know, not in a bad
way.
Yeah, man, because you know,um, not not in a registerable
way, right?

Shooter (40:26):
Right, you know, it's always good, it's always good to
have someone uh hang out withor talk to.
And and I understand sometimesyou just want to be alone, not
too, um, but just people ingeneral.

Mac G (40:36):
No, no, no, you're right.
Yeah, me, me, yeah, me, yeah.
You don't have to say me, no,me, yeah.
No, no, but just people ingeneral.
But it's good to just put me onthat list of people that want
to be alone, dog.
Don't get me fucked up, right?
Put me on the dude, no, Icouldn't understand that.
No, no, no, no.
I appreciate you coming out anddoing other shit, man.
No, that's cool.
I appreciate you uh humoringthis old man here, bro.

Shooter (40:57):
No, no, it's always a good time here at the Shakedown.

Mac G (41:00):
And uh, like we say, you know, I catch myself saying,
like, damn, I'm hanging out todo too much, bro.
Yeah, you know.
No, no, I'm just saying thatbecause it's like, dude, I
forget my age sometimes, bro.
And it's like, damn it, bro.
I mean, dude, I'm like, what?
I'm like fucking 14 years olderthan you, bro.

Shooter (41:18):
I got another buddy of mine, dude.

Mac G (41:20):
Not that I mind.
I really don't mind.

Shooter (41:22):
No, I mean, I don't, you know, I got another, I got
another buddy of mine, dude.
He's almost like 10 years olderthan me, too.

Mac G (41:27):
But I realize the dynamic, though.
It's like uh I feel like thepathetic one sometimes because
people see it's like, what thefuck's going on?

Shooter (41:34):
Nah, I mean, to be honest, dude, it's just I feel
like fuck that, bro.

Mac G (41:37):
This is a podcast.
This is a podcast about men,and we're both men, and fucking
we like hanging out.
Fuck all the the rest ofwhatever anybody else has to
say.

Shooter (41:46):
Uh just chilling.
I mean, I mean, you know, I Isleep good at night.

Mac G (41:51):
I do too.
I sleep, I sleep uh with nounderwear, face down with my
biggest.
I sleep with no underwear facedown with my ass up in case
people want to come kiss my assin the middle of the night, bro.

Shooter (42:02):
You know, I mean, I don't know.
I mean, I get it.
Like now you know probablypeople are like, oh, you know,
but I mean to me, dude, we'rejust up here doing a podcast,
chilling, talking smack, andthat's cool, man.
Like, ain't no, you know.

Mac G (42:12):
We're not even talking smack, we just keep it real,
bro.

unknown (42:16):
Yeah.

Mac G (42:17):
Speaking facts, bro.
A lot of people like to confusefacts with smack, but it's it's
a smack down fact down.
Smack ain't real.
Facts is you know, yeah.

Shooter (42:31):
But I'm pretty sure, dude, since the time of history
history of time, way beforetime, long ago.
Bolton hoes.
It's just life.
And one thing about life forsure is you're gonna get taxed
and you're gonna die.
So might as well just enjoy theride.

(42:54):
Yeah, you know?
I I got taxed on my check,dude.
You get both?
I go, no, dude.
No, dude, I'm not good.

Mac G (43:00):
No, dude, let me tell you something, dude.
Let me tell you something,dude.
Listen, listen, listen.

Shooter (43:04):
No, dude, no, no, dude, listen.
No, dude.
I'm gonna get dude.

Mac G (43:09):
I'm gonna write a letter, dude.

Shooter (43:10):
This is some bullshit, dude.

Mac G (43:11):
You get text on your check, right?
I get text on my check, dude.

Shooter (43:13):
Like, go get some damn, I gotta go to the store, dude.
I'm getting some chips.
I get text on the chips, bro.
I gotta use the toilet paper,bro.
I gotta take a shit.
I get text on the toilet paper,bro.
I can't do it, bro.
I'm thirsty, bro.
I get water, bro.
I work hard, dude.
And then I get text on thebeer.
Nah, dude.
Dude, the the beer just went upa dollar, dude.
It used to be 10 something.
Are you kidding me?
I didn't understand.

(43:33):
Dude, I got like dude.
No, dude.
No, these people don'tunderstand.
These people don't understand.
We got government officialsthat got more DUIs than I ever
had.
I don't even got a DUI.
We got government officialsthat got more, nah, dude.
It don't make sense.
It doesn't make sense, dude.
No, dude.
No, dude, these hefty streetsaren't even clean, bro.
I go, I dude, like I can't evengo down the street without my

(43:55):
tires.
Nah, dude.
Nah, dude.

Mac G (43:57):
I hear you.
I hear you.

Shooter (43:58):
I I want them to hear me.
Those people up there, dude.

Mac G (44:01):
They're not gonna hear you.

Shooter (44:02):
Nah, dude.
Fuck that.

Mac G (44:03):
People at work might hear you though.

Shooter (44:05):
I hope so.
Shit.
They're down the street.
Those mama webbles.
No, but it's just I'm tired ofgetting taxed, dude.
I go to sleep and I'm in mydreams.
Sometimes I'm at work.
Huh.
You know what I mean?
No, I'm not here.
I can't, bro.
I hear you, man.
But I got to.
Because you know, I uh there'sa saying that sometimes being a

(44:26):
man is doing things you don'twant to do.

Mac G (44:28):
That's all being a man is, man.
What are you talking about?

Shooter (44:31):
You know who told me that?
King of the Hill.

Mac G (44:33):
Mm-hmm.

Shooter (44:34):
Shout out to King of the Hill, man.

Mac G (44:36):
Life told me that.
But yeah.
King of the Hill reiterated it.
You remember?
Yeah, yeah.

Shooter (44:43):
He told, I think he told his son, he's like, son,
half the time being, he's like,half the time you're gonna have
to do some things you don't wantto do, but that's part of being
a channel.

Mac G (44:50):
I never did finish watching King of the New Season.
God dangle, man.

Shooter (44:54):
King of the Hill, God dang old, man.

Mac G (44:56):
You never did finish watching.
Have you started the newseason?

Shooter (44:58):
I want to, but no, I haven't.
King of the Hill, dude, that'smy guy.

Mac G (45:05):
Yeah, from my understanding, Hulu's gonna be
no more here pretty soon.

Shooter (45:09):
He's getting old.

Mac G (45:11):
Hulu?

Shooter (45:12):
Or Hulu?

Mac G (45:13):
Yeah.

Shooter (45:13):
Who bought him?
Disney.

Mac G (45:17):
Disney's taking him over.
They're uh taking over alltheir content, I think, by uh
before the end of the year by bythe after Thanksgiving,
there'll be no more.

Shooter (45:33):
Thanksgiving.
Would that's funny that they'regonna do it on Thanksgiving.
Why is that?
I don't know.
That seems kind of like aninsult.
Like if like if you had abusiness and I say, hey, I'm
gonna buy you out onThanksgiving.

Mac G (45:45):
Yeah.
Well I won't I don't thinkit'll be like on Thanksgiving,
but it'll be sometime afterThanksgiving.
You know what I mean?
That sort of thing.

Shooter (45:51):
Sounds like a mafioso hit.

Mac G (45:54):
I might be wrong.
It could be sometime it thismight be the last year, and then
next year it's gonna be.
From my understanding, DisneyPlus is it's not like they
haven't already, but they'regonna absorb all of it and
they're just gonna just no moreHulu.
They might have Hulu on theDisney Plus, like the you know,
that Hulu tab, like kind of likethe marble tab, kind of like

(46:17):
the you know what I mean?
The Avatar tab for the LongLive Hulu.
Yeah, man.
I mean I liked it.
They had Shorty.
I saw I mean they still haveShorty.
There's gonna be a anotherseason coming out, like I think
towards the end of next June.
They put it out like theynormally do.
Might be the last season.
Let me get some of that trailmix.

Shooter (46:48):
Well, you know, I'm all shooking off.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
You're all uh uh you know, Elvis is you know why
y'all shook up there, big buff?

Shooter (47:07):
I just don't know.

Mac G (47:08):
I mean from the ta aside from the taxes what else grind
your grinds your gears there,bud?
You know what else grinds mygears?

Shooter (47:20):
The fact that we print money and don't have enough of
it.
You know?
Yeah.
We're out here printing moneylike it's no one's business and
we still don't have enough ofit.
I just I understand that therehas to be a way of exchanging
things for my for for certainright?

Mac G (47:36):
Like if I do a the way we print print money and we act
like we're in we're we're out oftrees.
Yeah, you know it's dangerous.
Out here for a pimp, that's forsure.
It's dangerous, it's hard.
It's all that shit, bro.

Shooter (48:04):
I do gotta take a ride though, I'm not gonna lie.
You gotta what?
I do gotta take a ride to goget some stuff later.
I don't know if you was youwanted to get out and get some
fresh air.
Yeah, sure.
Walmart.

unknown (48:15):
Sure.

Shooter (48:17):
You know, I'll drop you back off and stuff.
But yeah, no, it's all good.
But no, dude.
It's just I just like I said,dude, it's weird.
Like, I got man, there's nobiggie, right?
Taking a nap during the day,but I like to, you know, it just
feels I was like, damn, itfeels like two days in one.
You know?
We got 10 minutes left.
That's cool.
And uh, like we always say,dude, it's it's it took us a

(48:38):
while to find kind of like alike the flow.
Yeah.
Because this right now, like Ifeel like we're every time we
jump on the show from uh likehere and out, it's pretty much
like we just go with the flow.
When I first started, I'm notgonna lie, it was kind of hard
for me to we had a few pocketsthere that was just that silent.
And it's it's funny because itwas to me, it was more having
the mic in front of me.

(48:58):
Because without the mic, we'realways just chopping it up,
talking about this and that.
But as soon as the mic gets infront, it's like I feel like you
had to be careful on what yousay, how you say it, you know,
stuff like that.
And we we we do have a decentamount of equipment for how we
started, and you know, it's it'sa start, it's something came a

(49:24):
long way.
It's been a few months, andcompared to talking about it,
you know, always that that ohthis we should do this, we
should do that, but sometimes itjust kind of fades away, and we
just kind of ran with it.
Well, mainly you exceptionally.

Mac G (49:38):
Yeah, but you know, we've we've hit some sort of um some
sort of routine, don't youthink?

Shooter (49:45):
What it feels like, yeah.
And it sounds and it soundsnatural.

Mac G (49:48):
It sounds you know what I'm happy about.
Yeah, you know, and I hopethat's always been my goal with
it with that beat.

Shooter (50:02):
That's a nice beat.
I hope our people feel likethat.
You know, and and and and theycould leave some comments if you
guys want to leave somecomments.
Let us know what you thinkabout the beat.
Let us know how you think aboutthe show.
You know, we're always justlike I said, this is a place for
for people to just tune in andjust kick back and you know,
because sometimes I gothroughout the day and and I
might not might might not runinto a couple of my friends.

(50:24):
So I've been throughout thewhole day by myself.
And sometimes I'll just jump onthe pad and listen to you know
to the show.
And yeah, no, I mean good tohave that background, you know.

Mac G (50:33):
Yeah, for sure.
I mean, it's like I said, andlike one of the very last things
that I hope we get off of thispodcast, if anything, is that
self-improvement.
You know, because it's like yougetting on that mic and being a
little bit more vocal withyourself, uh, and you know, not
you know, not being scared somuch of the mic anymore.

(50:54):
That's self-improving rightthere, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
That's reaching another level.

Shooter (50:59):
Definitely, definitely.

Mac G (51:00):
So hopefully that's not the end of it.
No, you know what I was gonnasay.
I woke up this morning and gotyourself a gun?
Nah, with the hunger of abeast, bro.
Wow.
I was honestly thinking abouthitting you up.

Shooter (51:17):
What are you gonna get?
Oh, the subm- The sub.

Mac G (51:23):
Yep.

Shooter (51:23):
That could be for next week.
We could tell, oh, you know,y'all don't know you want to
tell the people about the sub.

Mac G (51:28):
I'll let you, I'll let you punch it in the sub.

Shooter (51:31):
You know, like we said, we are thinking about taking
this podcast outside, doing afew challenges, maybe some food
challenges.
Um mainly MACG over here.
Um I can't, you know, I can'tdo a it's uh how long is the sub
you said?

Mac G (51:45):
It's it's it's not so much as how long as it is.
It's I think it's three feetthough, but it's it's uh seven
pounder.
One hour, one drink?
Yeah, like I said, I wasn'tsure about the drink.
That might be a little bitmore.
But but it is one hour.

Shooter (52:03):
How are you feeling about that?

Mac G (52:04):
You can't get up and leave the table.

Shooter (52:06):
You feeling confident though?

Mac G (52:07):
I think I could do it.
Yeah.
You can't get up and leave thatthat table for that one hour.
And if you win, you get a fiftydollar fifty dollars cash
straight up.
And I think your name on thewall, and I think you get um a
hoodie too, or something likethat.

Shooter (52:28):
That would be that would be one for the podcast.

Mac G (52:30):
Yeah, for sure.

Shooter (52:32):
Something to talk about too.

Mac G (52:33):
I'm thinking about doing the good life one too, which is
two 63-inch slices of pizza.

Shooter (52:39):
Hey, yeah, the more content, the better.
Like we said, because we are weare we do try to touch on
topics about news-wise, but wewant to step out and do some
topics about outside in thecity.
You know, we are in the city,might as well take advantage of
it.

Mac G (52:52):
Yeah, you know.
Yeah, no, uh, I mean, andthere'll be other stuff
eventually at some point, butlike, I mean, honestly, I've
always been interested in doingthese challenges, and I'll admit
that I'm getting my inspirationfrom a certain YouTube uh
channel.
Uh, I'm gonna pimp it out rightnow.

(53:12):
It's called Beard Meets Food.
My boy from Leeds.
I don't even know his namereally.
I just know it's Beard MeetsFood, the bearded guy.
A really cool guy.
Um he's I think uh aprofessional gurgitator, I think
is what they call him.
Professional eater.
He does content.

(53:34):
I I forget what he's ranked atnow, but uh he's a professional,
he's professionally ranked forsure.
He's a I mean, I don't thinkhe's I'm not sure how tall he
is, but I think he's as verytall.
And but he is a stacked dude,like I'm talking, I'm talking
about like he's he's prettyripped and he's pretty toned

(53:55):
too.
So but yeah, no, he I've seen alot of his challenges and there
it it just seems like some ofthese challenges that I see I I
feel like I can do.
And even if I can't beat him,it's uh it is a contest.
It is a challenge, it issomething for me to try out and
test my limits and uh know howfar I can push it.

(54:19):
And really none of thesechallenges are ever that
expensive, so I figure why not?
It's something for us to do toget out there out and about, and
it definitely will be our firstvideo that we post up, I think.
Because right now we reallydon't have any reason to be
posting up videos.
I think that the audio contenton its own speaks for itself.

(54:43):
Uh but we'll see what my boyhere Big Shoots have to say
after has to say after he getsout of the the pisser there,
because I'm sure that's whathe's doing.
And I hope he hurries upbecause I gotta go do one
myself.
But um Yeah, no, aside fromthat, I guess I do I should just

(55:04):
pimp out our other stuff.
Uh we are trying to set up thatuh Patreon page.
We are gonna set it up withsome paid content here pretty
soon.
Uh, and I I promise you it'sgonna be some good stuff.
There are gonna be a coupleepisodes with me and my my uh
belligerently drunk son.
The that episode is called Howto Deal With Your Drunk Son.

(55:26):
Put him on a podcast.
Uh and then we're gonna have atwo-parter, achy breaky farger
with my boy Big Shoots here.
He's gonna finally give us alittle bit of uh what he's been
suffering through.
And um, these things can bevery expensive episodes, you
know.
Even if it's just a one dollarcontribution, that that'll be
great.
Definitely, yeah.

(55:47):
But uh I'm gonna let my big myboy Big Shoots uh pimp out some
other stuff.
We gotta uh does he know we gotthree minutes left.
I got you know what I think Ican hold it in, but is there
anything you have to say?

Shooter (55:56):
No, I just want to say I appreciate everybody, like
always.

Mac G (55:58):
Yeah, we're not gonna wrap it up just yet.
You know, is there anything youhave to plug in?

Shooter (56:02):
Oh, I've kind of Yeah?

Mac G (56:04):
You you know you good?
Alright, so aside from that,let's see.
I am working on my music, stillI hate to make it all about me,
but since my boy here, I mean,uh honestly, my boy Big Schutz,
he's doing plenty with the withthe podcast.
That's his occupation.
That's I'm here to to help himto facilitate those needs and be

(56:25):
a part of the thing too,because I've never done a
podcast, and that'd be great tofigure out.
And I love doing this stuffanyways, and he's a great guy to
hang out with, great guy totalk to.
And but aside from that, uh I'mgonna put my music skills to
test.
I don't know.
I'm I I I think I am gonnamaybe do one Christmas song just

(56:46):
to test myself.
Maybe we'll play it forChristmas.
The week of Christmas, that'llbe our our starter.

Shooter (56:53):
Yeah, might as well, you know, give it away.

Mac G (56:55):
For the week of.

Shooter (57:01):
Right, no, no, no, no.

Mac G (57:02):
But I'm fairly confident.
I don't know, it might be justan acoustic thing.
We'll see.
We'll see how elaborate I getwith it.

Shooter (57:10):
Yeah, no, just definitely uh just just try
something out and no rush.
Yeah, yeah.
No rush.

Mac G (57:17):
No, yeah, no biggie.

Shooter (57:18):
And if we hear something, we hear something of
that.

Mac G (57:21):
There's always uh there's always uh next year.
Yeah, there's always next year.
I mean, yeah, uh that's whatI'm hoping and planning on.
I mean, at least we you guyscould see the difference.
I figured this would be atleast a one-year project, I
hope.

Shooter (57:36):
At least at least, yeah.

Mac G (57:38):
I mean, I I don't plan on going anywhere soon.
So but you Yeah, but life, lifechanges.
Of course, it does.

Shooter (57:45):
But no, definitely.
I mean, as long as I'm in thecity and you're in the city, we
could always no matter.

Mac G (57:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't have to do it.
Yeah, nothing's for certain,but you're right.
Right, right.

Shooter (57:54):
But I mean, like me too, I don't I don't really see
myself not at the moment reallygoing anywhere else at the time
right now.
Sure, sure, sure.

Mac G (58:00):
Yeah, no, I get it, I get it.

Shooter (58:01):
And I'm just taking it easy.

Mac G (58:02):
Man, that's why I'm trying to put in then putting in
them uh that good work and themgood hours, bro, to try and get
us some money, dog.

Shooter (58:11):
You know, well not like that, just you know, exactly
like that, bro.

Mac G (58:15):
Well, I don't know.
I mean I I uh that's I mean,yeah, no, I get it.
It's not that's not that's notwhy I do it.
I lose I do it for the love ofthe game, but right at some
point, you know, you gotta yougotta get you gotta make that
money to keep the love going,you know?
Right, right.
It's just like when you'remarried, bro, you know?
Yeah, but we're not gonna be.
No, I'm not talking about us,but when you make a podcast, you
know, it's the same thing.

Shooter (58:36):
Right, right, definitely, definitely.
Well, yeah, I mean it's notgonna pay just the equipment and
stuff's not gonna pay foritself because it's really.

Mac G (58:43):
At some point you're gonna have to cut your losses,
right?

Shooter (58:45):
Yeah, no, definitely.

Mac G (58:46):
But that's why I'm doing it for the love of the game.
If if this game don't pay out,then at some point, you know.
Yeah, still a good time.
Yeah, for sure.
And um, you know, I'm I mean, Imight I I might pivot to
something else.
No lie.
Right, that's fine.

Shooter (59:02):
Yeah.

Mac G (59:04):
Why not?
Yeah.

Shooter (59:05):
Oh, yeah, definitely.
Uh you know I'm checking out.
I'm not checking out.