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June 9, 2024 82 mins

What happens when a Brooklyn native travels to Belize, returns to New York, and then finally finds a home in the Chicago hip-hop scene? On this episode of The S.H.I.T.T.S  Podcast, our special guest, GQ, shares his incredible journey and how he transitioned from reggae music to becoming a prominent figure in Chicago hip-hop. GQ takes us through the vibrant party scene of the early '90s and introduces us to key influencers like Tony Baines, Cool Out Chris, and Crunch (aka Jitu The Juggernaut), while candidly discussing his personal health battles and unwavering commitment to music.

From unforgettable battle rap events like Rhyme Spitters to the evolution of the underground scene, this episode offers a rich tapestry of Chicago's hip-hop history. You'll hear about the pivotal contributions of figures such as Pink House, DJ Timbuk2, and Wendy Day, who have helped shape the landscape for artists in the city. GQ also emphasizes the significance of presenting intelligence and maturity in the genre, celebrating the diverse talent that extends far beyond just drill music, including notable names like Mr. Misfit, Andreas Haley, Asha Omega, Jay Bambi, and Brittany Carter.

We also pay tribute to the legendary Clarence Avant, known as the Black Godfather, and explore the critical role of networking in the music industry. GQ shares personal anecdotes that highlight the challenges and rewards of forming genuine connections, offering insights into the importance of unity and collaboration within the Chicago hip-hop community. From platforms like Fake Shore Drive and Illinoize Radio to the enduring legacies of figures like Bernie Mac and Brother Hashim, this episode is a heartfelt homage to the resilience, dedication, and untapped potential of Chicago's hip-hop artists.

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
We are now back at the Shits Podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
We're either shooting shit, starting some shit or
picking up what shit left off.
I'm your host, monson.
It's the Rodda Coolest catchyou heard.
That's fine, aka DJ BootyRubber like no other.
If you don't believe me, man,go ask your mother.
Hey y'all.
Tonight, man, we got a veryspecial guest to the podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Hey man, look I remember when I first started
out doing hip-hop in Chicago.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Man, I used to go down to the sub-T and the blue
note.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Yup, I said the motherfucking blue note, and I
would see this dude down thereand this dude was not only
holding it down back then he'sreinventing himself.
He's helping to reinvent thescene here.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
And he does do a lot of big shit for the
up-and-coming artists and castfor the vets, and I got a lot of
love for this dude, a lot ofrespect for him.
Artist and cast for the Vets,and I got a lot of love for this
dude, a lot of respect for him.
Y'all, put y'all hands togetherand show some love for the one,
the only, gq.
Yes sir, yes sir, yes sir.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Thank you, bro.
Yes, sir, how you feel man.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Well, you know, I'm going through my trials and
tribulations, but I'm here, man,I'm trying to stay active, I'm
trying to move around and tryingto keep the scene alive here in
Chicago, man, you know what I'msaying.
Yeah, but I've been goingthrough my trial and
tribulations.
I got kidney and heart failureSorry to hear that so I got to

(01:41):
stay on my dialysis until I getme another kidney.
But apart from that, I ain'tgoing to let that stop me from
enjoying life, man.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
My life is music.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
I've been in music for 39 years.
That's inspiration, bro.
Real shit 39?
.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah, I'm going to be 52 this year.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
So yeah, 39 years, man Bro.
Do you realize you have beendoing music longer than some
motherfuckers have been livingReal shit?
So I guess my first question toyou is how did you even get
introduced to the Chicagohip-hop scene?
Well, first off, I came toChicago in 92.

(02:20):
Originally, I'm not from here,I'm from.
New York, brooklyn.
Okay, born in Brooklyn,brownsville.
I left New York when I was alittle kid.
Brooklyn, I'm not from here.
Okay, where are you from?
I'm from New York, brooklyn.
Okay, born in Brooklyn,brownsville.
I left New York when I was alittle kid.
Brooklyn, son yeah, I felt likeI always got to say that when
somebody say Brooklyn, like Igot to put son back.
Yeah, I left New York when Iwas a kid, me and my sister.
We moved to Belize and we grewup in Bel.
About childhood Okay, how longwas that Like?

(02:43):
In the 80s?
Okay, Early 80s.
Then, when I became 12, I cameback from Belize, back to New
York.
Okay, and I grew up my teenageyears in New York, and back then
I wasn't part of my teenageyears.
I wasn't really into hip hop inNew York.
Nah, I was into what I grew upon, which was reggae, downtown

(03:05):
music.
Because in Belize that's allthey play out.
There is straight punta rock,soca, reggae downtown.
You know shabaranks,guadalajara, lieutenant stitchy
yellow man, you know what I'msaying.
So that's all I grew up on.
So I came to Chicago in 92.
That's when I got introduced tohip hop.

(03:26):
Well, I want to say this muchreal quick I love reggae music.
And not only do I love reggaemusic, I love Jamaican people,
because, dude, I don't want thisto sound offensive when I say
it Jamaican people can read arecipe for cookies and that shit

(03:46):
sound like a dope-ass track.
They can literally just read arecipe for fucking cookies and
you'd be like, bro, that's asoundbite, Anyway, that's our
thing, but go ahead.
Yeah, so you know, when I wasback in New York, yes, I was
listening to KRS-One and allthem dudes, yes, but I wasn't

(04:06):
really into them like that.
Really, I was into more shitthat I grew up on, which was
Shabba Ranks, bulls andTerrafabric.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Supercat.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Supercat, yeah, oh yeah, red Fox, all of them.
So when I came to Chicago in 92, I was like 19 years old, I
think and I met this guy, hisname Duro, and Duro used to
throw this hip-hop party back inthe days called who Got Big

(04:36):
Lips, and he used to throw it atthis club who Got Big Lips, who
Got Big Lips, oh shit.
And he used to throw it at thisclub on the north side called
Lower Links.
Okay, so I got introduced toChicago hip-hop through the road
and that's the first time in 92I met Tony Baines oh, shut up,
tony Baines.
Cordell, cool Out Chris fromSpillani City Bunch.

(04:57):
I met Crunch, okay, who go bythe name G2, the Juggernaut.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Now, he used to be in this group back in the days
called 10 Trey.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
I met Murder One.
He used to be in this groupcalled OCU Organized Crime Unit.
I remember them too, yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Goddamn.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
I met.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Ill State.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Assassin, ec Illa Ants 13.
I met in 92, I met the actorWood.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Harris from Peyton Ford.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
The Wire I met the actor Wood Harris from Paid.
In Fall of the Wire I met theactor Freddy Rodriguez.
He used to be in the groupChildren of Reality.
I met Rob McKay from SilverRoom, so Duro kind of put me in
tune with them cats.
That's how I got introduced toChicago hip-hop and Duro also
introduced me to this guy.
Rest in peace.
He was like one of my mentors.

(05:44):
His name Mike Shane.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Okay, mike.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Shane and Raymond Boyd.
They used to own this, I meanRaymond O'Neal.
They used to own this hip-hopnewspaper back in the days
called Flypaper.
Oh, I remember Flypaper too.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
They used to own that , damn bro.
So Mike Shane rest in peaceconnected me to this guy that
used to DJ for KKC back in the80s.
His name was DJ Pinkhouse.
I remember Pinkhouse and heintroduced me, him and uh yeah,
him and Big Shoes, him and BigShoes introduced me to Pinkhouse

(06:20):
and Pinkhouse and Mike Shanetook me under their wing and I
started doing street promotionand marketing for 106 Jams.
So it was through Pink Housethat I was able to meet Chuck D
Biz, marquis DJ Guru, georgeDaniels.
I met all these cats throughPink House.

(06:41):
So while I was working at 106Jams, doing street promotion and
marketing.
I really wasn't getting paidfrom that because I was doing it
through intern Okay.
So I had to try to find me somekind of way To give hay, To get
some money and shit like that.
And it was hard finding jobsback in them days.
Man, For me you know what I'msaying it was kind of hard
finding jobs.

(07:01):
So one time I got on a CTAtrain and I saw these dudes
rapping on the train GentlemanDraft, High G, Neck and Bone,
Beans and Rice and I'm lookinglike wait that's a group.
Or that was like on the menu no,that's a group.
Oh, I was like it was a group.
They used to be rapping on thered line train, so I used to see

(07:22):
them on the train and they wasmaking.
They was making some money.
So I was like, damn, I know howto rap reggae and I see these
motherfuckers making a lot ofmoney on the train doing that
shit.
So I'm like man.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
I got to start doing that shit.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
So I saw them on the train, on a.
They used to call themselvesthree piece.
I knew I yeah, I knew you wasgonna fucking say that.
So I saw them, minister Reeseand Marty and them.
I'm like, okay, yeah, I gottaget into this.
So I'm still kind of new toChicago, so, and you know, I

(07:55):
almost got my ass whooped toobecause I had my hat broke off
to the left and you know, youknow what I'm saying.
I didn't know what was going on.
So, dude, I'm on the Green Linetrain.
One day I saw this guy on thetrain and he was telling jokes
on the train.
So I'm like, and he made $50off one cart just roasting cats

(08:17):
on the train.
So I'm like, damn, I'm like youknow what?
Okay, I'm about to take thisshit serious.
So one day I just happened towalk up on him.
He was doing his thing on thetrain.
He pulled out his littlemcdonald's bag.
I was like man, I accept thenation, blah, blah, blah.
And he was making his money.
So I walked up on him and I waslike man, bruh, I ain't trying
to be rude, man, you inspire me,you make me want to start come

(08:38):
out here and start rap on thesetrains.
And he looked at me like manyou got an, got an accent.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
He's like where you from, you from Jamaica, I'm like
nah.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
I'm from Belize and New.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
York.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
He's like yeah, I hear the accent.
He's like what you do, he'slike you rap.
I'm like, yeah, he's like, letme hear you kick something.
So I kicked some reggae Don Tomfrom him and he was like man,

(09:08):
what's your name?
By that time my name was justGQ.
I didn't call myself GQ theteacher, okay, it was just GQ.
So I told him like yeah, myname GQ.
Like man, man, you need to getto get down on the train and
start doing'm like yeah.
So I was like man, what's yourname?
Man, he's like man.
My name's Bernie Mac I knew it.
I fucking knew it.

(09:28):
Hey bro, listen man.
When he told me his name wasBernie Mac, I'm like okay, like
two, three years later I went tothis club called Cotton Club
and I saw them up in the CottonClub, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
I love the Cotton Club man, I did.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
I love the Cotton Club.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Then, a couple of years later, I saw them at this
other club called All JokesAside, and it was Bernie.
Mac.
Big Daddy Woo Woo, rest inpeace.
Big Daddy Woo Woo.
Tony Schofield, leon Rogers.
Shout Woo, tony Schofield, leonRogers, shout out to Tony
Schofield.
Corey Holcomb, d-ray Davis Ialmost maraud.

(10:11):
He was there.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Bruh.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, it was a couple of cats up in that club, amen.
When I look, I turn around, Isee this dude, bernie Mac, in a
movie man.
I'm like damn these, this dudeBernie Mac, in a movie man.
I'm like damn.
There's three people that I'veseen in person Wood Harris,
freddy Rodriguez and Bernie Mac.
All of them.
I've seen them on some struggleshit.
And now all three of these catsmade it to Hollywood.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
I'm gonna fuck up, hey yo, we gotta take a break
real quick.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Shout out to all the motherf to the right.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
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It's your boy Monsoons, the Rodfrom the Ownership Club and the
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Speaker 2 (11:04):
It's the shit yeah yeah, yeah, we are now back at
the Shit's Podcast, man, and weare here and I'm going to put it
out there y'all.
We are sitting here talking toa motherfucking walking Google
right now, walking Google searchmy man, gq, gq, teacher man.
So, bro, you have had run-inswith so many motherfuckers, so

(11:28):
it's crazy that you mentioned IAm Oz Myron right, because I
always tell motherfuckers thisstory.
I used to work at the Gap withthat nigga G and I don't even
think he remembers.
And it's crazy because Iremember actually getting off
work.
I worked at the Gap downtown.
I remember getting off work andwe was walking to the train
together.
I was the stock boy.

(11:48):
I think he was doing the samething when I met, when I seen
him again at one of the spots.
I told him I'm like yeah, bro,I'm like man, he's working at
the Gap.
That nigga looked at me like heain't know who the fuck I was
talking about, Anyway when youthink about all these people

(12:14):
that you've come in contact withand how, not only have they
evolved, but the Chicago hip hopscene or the Chicago music
scene or Chicago entertainmentscene has evolved, or Chicago
Entertainment has evolved.
Do you think that?
We have do you think it hasslapped or do you think it has
done?

Speaker 1 (12:34):
do you think it has?

Speaker 2 (12:35):
exceeded expectations , the whole thing, whether it's
hip hop, whether it's comedy.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
No no comedy.
No.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Now you got to be thinking that's a good ass
question, bro, because it's theshit.
You know, I think theysucceeded as far as the hip hop,
because you know, you know, Igot to give my flowers to Pink
House once again.
Man, pink House, you know, it'scrazy, because I found out that

(13:12):
Pink House wasn't always hiphop.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
He was a house head.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
I knew that I take it when the checks start looking
good at 106 Jams.
He's like man.
I gotta get this money.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
I gotta get this money and shit like that yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
But even then, what I like about Pink House man, pink
House, rest in peace.
Man, he made sure that Chicagohip-hop was heard.
Man he did.
I gotta give my flowers towhat's his name too.
Rest in peace, dj Timbuk2.
You know what I'm saying?
Pink House and Timbuktu, theymade sure that hip hop, the

(13:52):
underground hip hop, was heard.
It's like, honestly, I wouldhave never heard of Tantre or
OCU or Black Rest in Peace,black AG or none of these Ackbar
MC Juice.
I would have never heard ofthese cats if it wasn't for Pink
House playing this shit.
I met them, but I never heardtheir music until I heard Pink

(14:12):
House start playing this shit,right, so I always get Pink
House fly with that.
So I think the hip-hop scene inChicago had exceeded.
Yeah, yeah, every once in awhile you got motherfuckers that
be on their ego.
You know on their ego shit andyou know that's the downfall
right now.
Motherfuckers be on some egoshit, they be on some weird shit
.
You know what I'm saying that'sa whole, as we say in the

(14:34):
podcast room, that's a wholenother pot.
It's crazy.
I've been around, you know.
I've been here in Chicago,chicago, now for 32 years and I
seen it firsthand.
Man, it's sad, but hey, man,you spoke about g2.
Crunch amen.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Listen, all I said is this the first time I met g2,
he was killing a motherfucker ona battle and the way you wrap
is so forceful, I take your armsout.
I rinse it out like a rag.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
He's big and he look like the Kingpin from Spider-Man
, but the black version.
It's crazy, a good friend ofmine who y'all probably heard of
he used to play for ChicagoBeer, spice Adams Spice Adams
had just posted a video a coupleof days ago and G2 the
Juggernaut was in the videoBecause he went to he had on

(15:33):
schools.
Yeah, yeah, and he had on the 95Richard Dent jersey and you
know Spice Adams.
You know Spice Adams Silly asfuck man he like yeah, yeah, I
see my man got on my jersey, mySpice Adam 95 jersey.
He like man, hey brother, lethim know who jersey that is.
You got on G2 was like heybrother, this Richard Dent

(15:53):
jersey, man, spice Adam.
He went from smiling to man.
Look.
I remember when Rich Sang didthe.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
I know you probably remember, of course, yeah damn
Rhyme Spitters.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
The first year that he did the Rhyme Spitters, that
was like to me.
I thought that was huge inChicago because it was like
everybody wanted to be downthere and to see all these MC's
in the park battling.
I thought it was dope and, likeI said, I remember G2 roasting
motherfuckers.
It was like somebody'sgranddaddy scolding the kid, but

(16:36):
it wasn't in a corny kind ofway.
He was battling and he wascoming straight off the top of
the dome and he was fuckingmotherfuckers up, bro you know
who put the ring spitterstogether right Nah, me and my
brother Deca Dirtz were justtalking about him earlier today.
Jay Bird, I thought it was whathe was saying Nah, jay Bird, jay
Bird, sank.

(16:58):
and I want to saywhat's-her-name was involved
with that too?
Wendy Day, yeah, wendy Day wasinvolved with that too.
Wendy Day, wendy Day, yeah,wendy Day was involved with Rap
Coalition, okay, but Wendy Daywas the one that you know.
I love Wendy, by the way,that's my girl, you know what
I'm saying?
One of the realest, one of therealest white chicks that I've
been knowing since 1993, 1994.
She's the one that put thebattle event with Pro Proof

(17:21):
versus Phenom Ah, and Eminemversus MC Juice.
She put that together.
Yeah, she's one of the peoplethat put that together.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
We need more of that man.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
You know what I talked with Wendy.
She was here in Chicago acouple of weeks ago and I had
brought that up to her.
That'd be dope if she couldbring that shit back.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
We need that, bro.
We need that.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Like dude, I remember how Rich had well whoever had
the organizers of it had allthat shit laid out.
They had the battle in the parkand then you was going up to
either it was the double door,and then you ended the night at
the double door at the battle,or it was at the blue note and
it was just so much energy inthe city around that you know

(18:07):
what I'm saying Because.
I remember DA Smart was gettingin at one point.
Ooh, I remember the battlebetween him and Juice.
They was going at it who won.
Of course.
See this one motherfucker wasgoing off.
Top of the head, not not thewritten.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
I saw your mom.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
She works at Kmart Of course I'm going with MC Juice,
but shit, da Smart wasn't noslouch eater, though man.
Da Smart was rippingmotherfuckers up, man.
Then one of my favorite momentswas seeing some cats try to
call themselves, try to battleMC Juice and Akbar, and both
Akbar and MC Juice destroyed allof them.
I'm like who's the kids thatwas on the battle?

(18:45):
I forgot their names, man, butI was shaking my head and of
course you know who wasbeatboxing for Akbar and Juice
right, me, oh man.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Bro, so you've been around this shit for the longest
, bro.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Give me your top moment, top hip-hop moment in
Chicago.
This shit for the longest, bro,Give me your top moment, top
hip-hop moment in Chicago.
Ooh, I got so many of them.
One of my favorite hip-hopmoments in Chicago was I was
with Pink House in 33 and aThird man, I think Big Shoes

(19:27):
Spank Boogie and I want to saySpank Boogie.
I think First Lady was with us.
We was doing street promos forNas when he first dropped
Illmatic.
This was a 20-year-old.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Nas.
He was young, but 20 years old.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
We took him to because we was driving around.
Y'all remember the 106 Jams fan, right, yeah, we was driving
around in that.
So we took him to George'sMusic Out West, out West.
Then we took him to this otherrecord store called Barney's
Barney's Record Store.
Then we took him to this otherrecord store called Barney's

(20:05):
Barney's Record Store.
Then we took him to Dr Wax andthen the last record store we
took him to was Track One RecordStore and it was Nas.
Wait, what was that at?
Track One Record Store used tobe on 71st and Jeffrey, right
across the street from Walgreens, and my homie rest in peace,

(20:26):
debrey Jones, rest in peace.
He used to own track one recordstore.
He was like you know, in myeyesight, I think Debrey Jones
and George Daniels to me is likethe godfather of the mom and
pop record stores here inChicago.
You know what I'm saying.
You know the mom and pop'srecord stores here in Chicago.
Definitely you know what I'msaying.
You know, if it wasn't forGeorge and Deadbeat man, there

(20:47):
wouldn't be no record store butNas.
We was with Nas and Nas had hishat broke off to the left and
he only on 71st and Jeffreyway.
It ain't nothing but folk, some and my homie 33 and a third,
thomas.
We were trying to tell him likeman bro, we ain't trying to be
rude man, you know you had tofix your head up straight, man,

(21:08):
you know what I'm saying thisain't like back in New York man.
You know what I'm saying.
Motherfuckers, take that shitseriously.
But you know, nas was so highand drunk man he was like I'm
just giving you the heads up man.
So he up in there, you know, heautographing Nas posters and

(21:31):
shit like that L-matic posters.
Then up out of the blue heasked me, and my homie, mark
Mark Davis he owned this record,pegasus Records he was there
too.
So he was asking us like man,you know any stores around here
that's got Philly Blunts?
I'm trying to roll up Right.
So I'm like, yeah, I know astore around here that sells

(21:52):
Philly Blunts.
I'll walk you up there.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
You was smoking with Philly's back then.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
I don't smoke.
I mean, like Philly's big man,redman Nas, everybody was
smoking.
You know what I'm saying,common, all everybody was
smoking that shit.
So I told Nas like yeah, let's,you know, I walk into the store
.
So me him.
I'm a boy, ronadab, from 24-7HH, who I work with.
Okay, we walked him up to thestore, but all the time while we

(22:18):
walking we see niggas lookingat us all crazy and shit like
that Whoop your ass, son.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
I felt the tension man, I'm like man dude, just
straighten your head up man.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
So I told him like Nas, man, I ain't trying to be
rude, bro, you know, juststraighten your head up.
Man Nas was like man son, Iain't tripping about that, man,
I'm God-body.
Man, my man.
He lift his shirt up.
That that nigga had that swordon him.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
I'm like that's blicky son.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, and it ain't hard to tell to get that ass
smoked, son.
I'm like I didn't even know hehad that on him bro.
I'm like oh, okay, yeah, we gotthat shit, you got that shit on
you.
I'm like, okay, he told youstraight, but that was one of my
favorite hip hop moments.
Yeah, yeah, that was it, man,one of my favorite pop moments.
You know what I'm saying?
I got a few of them, but I knowone that was one of them.

(23:05):
You know what I'm saying?
Hey, yo, we got to take a breakreal quick.
Shout out to all themotherfuckers out there.
Man, they used to wear theirhat, broke off and then, when
certain niggas get on, they kindof P checking in from the shits
podcast yeah, yeah.

(23:26):
Yeah.
We are now back at the shitspodcast.
Man, we are here chilling withthe one, the only, my man GQ the
teacher, man, gq the teacher,or just GQ, if you want to, hey,
man so when you start to thinkabout, all the people that
you've run into, all the peoplethat you have encountered in

(23:47):
your journey through thisChicago music scene, how
important to you, how importantare building connections.
And the second part of that isdo you think we are teaching the
younger or I'm not going to sayyounger the up-and-coming
artists, the importance of thoseconnections?

(24:08):
Well, for me you know mepersonally I didn't know about
all this stuff.
As far as connecting dots man,I didn't, you know, I was new to
it.
Who taught me all this shit?
As far as connecting dots man,I didn't, you know, I didn't you
know, I was new to it.
Who taught me all this shit wasactually Pink House, bro.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
I mean it's good that somebody taught you.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
I learned a lot of this shit from Pink House and I
also learned a lot of this shitfrom watching another one of my
favorite mentors.
Rest in peace.
He died last year at the age of94.
I don't know if y'all ever seenthat documentary, the Black
Godfather with Clarence AvantBro.
Yeah, you knew Clarence Avant,bro.
I never met Clarence Avant, buthe was one of my mentors.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Oh, I was about to say.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
I wish I would have met him when he was alive, just
to shake that man's hand andgive him his flower dude Bro.
When I watched that documentaryand I seen all the people that
this dude kind of like piecedtogether, I thought that was
amazing.
Not just in the music world, hedid.
I'm talking about music,politics, hollywood.
He worked with George Lucas,but he also he partake with

(25:15):
Diddy.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
I don't Sad, I don't know, I'msorry.
No, diddy, you know what.
He didn't hang with Diddy, butyeah, he did taught him a couple
of shit.
You know what I'm saying.
You know when that whole thinghappened with Notorious Big and
Tupac?
Yeah, clarence Avon actuallycalled, reached out to Diddy and

(25:40):
told him come to my crib.
I need to holler at you aboutthat, because to Diddy and told
him, like, come to my crib.
I need to holler at you aboutthat Because he was trying to
dead that whole.
You know.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
East Coast, West Coast, shit.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
He said I'm not coming to your party, you come
to my house.
You know what I'm saying Ilearned a lot from Pink House
and Clarence Yvonne as far asconnecting the dots man and I
knew that's my ability and youknow a lot of these people like
Pink House introduced me to them, like Chuck D from Public Enemy
Biz, markie Primo Gru, you know, when I first met them, I met

(26:13):
them as I was fanning out.
I'm going to be honest with you, I was fanning out.
I was a fanboy man Like dude.
When I first met MC Lyte, I wasa fanboy but I started
networking with these cats forall the years that I've been in
the music shit and it went.
I've been known Premier rest inpeace, guru, if he was alive.

(26:34):
Chuck D I've been knowing allthese cats for damn near 30 plus
years now so it went from mebeing a fanboy to now I could
like I told.
I could just call these cats, Icould call Primo, I could like I
told I could just call thesecats and I'd be like I could
call Primo, I could call Chuck D, like hey, hit me up when
you're in Chicago.
You know what I'm saying.
They like fans.
Now, you know what I'm saying.
And that's what I've been tryingto teach a lot of the younger

(26:57):
generation.
You know I be working with youknow this one artist man, dope
dope cat man, phenomenal MC man,his name Monty Jordan.
Okay, you know he was tellingme like man, gq man, I be
wanting to network with thesecats man, but man, I be want to

(27:19):
give up man.
And I told Shit, I've beenthrough the same situation like
you.
You think I gave up?
Fuck, no, I didn't give up Evenup to now.
I'll still be networking,trying to network with cats, and
you know what I'm saying.
And you know, connect dots andshit like that.
I'm not giving up, man.
What's the challenge?
Well, niggas don't be answeringtheir phones.

(27:40):
Let me stop because I got acouple situations where you know
you try to reach out tomotherfuckers and you know, you
know, you know what I, what Ican't stand man, motherfuckers
like.
Instead of you like.
You know, support them and bein their corner and and build
with them.
They be sitting in the cutwaiting for you to blow up.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
And then, hop on your dick.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
And then want to hop on your nuts when shit start
getting big.
You know what I'm saying.
They see you start.
You know you making them movesand popping champagne bottles.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Now, everybody want to be your friend, everybody
want to dick ride.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
You know, I don't like shit like that, man See,
that's one thing.
I can't stand man, Shit likethat, and I don't like shit like
that, man See that's one thingI can't stand, man, Shit like
that, and I hate yes-mans.
You know what I'm saying.
Like you know it's like, I'lllet you know.
Like man, look here, I ain'tfeeling your shit man, you whack
, I'll give a fuck if you getmad at me Because, guess what,

(28:41):
when I was rapping on them CTAtrains, it used to be
motherfuckers coming up to melike hey G, I ain't trying to be
rude man, but I ain't feelingthat shit man.
Why you be doing the same songover and over, man, why you
don't do something different.
Do I get mad?

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Right.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Nah, I don't.
But a lot of these cats, man,especially some of these
producers.
It's just one producer.
Say no name.
Legendary producer.
Uh-oh, hold on, hold on, okay,okay, go ahead, because we ain't
gonna start now.
I ain't gonna say no name, buthe's one of my favorite
producers, man, he sent somebeats to me and I told him like

(29:17):
man, I ain't feeling the beats,it's whack.
So I take it.
You know, he kind of got in hisfeelings because I said his
beats was whack and I take it.
You know, he kind of got in hisfeelings because I said his
bitch was whack, right, and Itold him like dude, this ain't
you.
I like the old from back in,you know what I'm saying Twisted
days and shit like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know whatI'm saying.
I'm going to tell you who it iswhen we get off here, because I

(29:37):
don't want to bring his name up.
But yeah, man, he blocked me onInstagram, he blocked me on
Twitter, he blocked my cellphone number.
Oh shit, you know what I'msaying.
But he, you know, he couldalways be one of my producers
and look like lately he was badman.
Yeah, he was, but you know what,lately he's been coming back
with some heat, okay.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (30:00):
He's been coming back with some heat.
He's been coming back with someheat.
Yeah, man, like I tell theyoung cats I peeped that project
too.
I peeped the project.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
I listened to it.
Yeah right, you know what I'msaying the project ain't out yet
.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Oh, okay, it's coming out in July.
Okay, that's why I be trying totell the young cats man, don't
give up, man, continue grinding.
You know what I'm saying.
But that's why I be trying totell the young cats man, like,
don't give up man, continuegrinding.
Man.
You know what I'm saying.
I know it be frustrating andshit like that.
Yeah, but you know me, you knowI kind of got an ear for talent
.
I know talent when I see it andwhen I first heard people you

(30:41):
know like, for example, forexample when Fillmore Green I
like that one.
When I first heard Fillmore, youknow I got up on him through my
homie.
I don't know if you know thiscat.
He another legendary Chicago DJ.
Dj Scrap, dirty, scrap, dirty.
He worked with Violator Records.
Yeah, he fucked with Vice a lot.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
Yeah, he fucked with Vice.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
You know Violator you know fucking Vice a lot.
Yeah, he fucking Vice, you knowScrap hit me up with like hey,
gq, you need to check out my man, phil Moore Green.
I'm like okay, but all the timeI like I let it go through my
ears and it come out through theeyes.
So I'm like yeah, whatever.
Then another one of my homiescame up to me, who y'all know as
well too, rasheed Hadi.
Yeah, rasheed was like hey, gq,you might need to check out my

(31:26):
homie, phil Moore.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Green Rasheed did a dope ass project with the.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Primeridian yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I heard him.
I was like I mean, you know,when I heard, you know when I
hear dope shit, I be making thatthat face, yeah, yeah, that
ugly face, that silent fart face.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
I was like you know what so I hit him up.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
I was like I connected with him, me and him
worked together, man.
And now you know he's doing bigthings, man, and I'm proud of
him.
Man, same thing like with thisother MC I work with man.
I never heard of him untilBenny the Butcher posted his
video.
I am God I didn't know about.
I am God it's didn't know about.

(32:04):
I Am God it's crazy.
I'll tell you.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
I love the name.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
I've been living in Chicago for 32 years and I know
damn near everybody in the musicscene.
I'm like I ain't never heard ofthis dude, I Am God.
So I text Benny the Butcher andI'm like yo.
Who the fuck is this dude youjust posted.
And Benny hit me back.
I'm like yo, who the fuck isthis dude you just posted and
Benny hit me back.
I'm like nigga, he from whereyou from, he from Chicago.
Right, I'm like shit, I ain'tnever heard of this cat.

(32:29):
Then, a couple of months later,another good friend of mine,
Griffin yeah, Griffin hit me uplike nigga.
I've been telling you aboutBenny.
I'm like I am God, but see, heused to go by T to God back in
the day.
Okay, Okay, you know what I'msaying.
And I'm like, okay, I wasn't intune with this dude.
So I hit him up on the DM onInstagram.

(32:51):
I was like yo, my name is GQ.
You know I used to work with106 Champs Radio and Dr Wax
Records.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
I was like dude, I want to work.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Dr Wax yeah, I want to work with you.
So he was, like man, let's linkup and have lunch.
So I linked up with him in HydePark and me and him had lunch
and we chopped it up and I toldhim like dude, you dope as fuck,
you talented as fuck.
I want to work with you, man.
So I told him, like man, I wantto connect you with one of my
favorite producers, who justhappened to be an engineer and

(33:24):
his name Dr Mindbender.
Damn Bro, hey man, listen,check it out.
What you are hearing right nowis Chicago history, like audio,
whatever the fuck.
You're hearing it through yourears right now.
Anyway, be appreciative of that, because you're listening to

(33:47):
somebody that experienced itfirst hand.
Yo, we're gonna take a breakreal quick.
Then we'll come right back.
And man shout out to all thelittle fuckers out there that
went to Dr Wax and tried tosteal big ass albums Yo, goof
Ass, it's the shit podcast, man,it's the shit For all erotic
needs and fantasy needs.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
please contact Cold Pleasures at colpleasurescom.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We are now back at the shitpodcast.
We either shooting shit,starting some shit or picking up
what shit left off Chicagohistory and for a moment.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
We was probably starting some shit.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
But we didn't say their producer's name, so we
didn't start.
No shit.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yeah, we didn't start .
No shit, no.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
But so my question to you man I know you was you was
oh, fuck, yeah, Okay, oh, damnbro, yeah, Okay, yeah, we can't
do that.
Yeah, Damn Okay, Chicagohistory right.
Yeah, yeah, Chicago historyright.
Exactly so I was like I meantto ask you how did you link up

(34:55):
with Benny the Butcher?
Well, okay, I'm going to do theBenny the Butcher first, then
I'm going to break some Chicagohistory up to you.
Yeah, do it, let's do it.
But how I got connected withBenny the Butcher and Conway the
Machine and West Side Gun wasthrough a good friend of mine
who was probably one of myfavorite MCs.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
Who you know?
Vic Spencer.
Yeah, Okay, I figured that youknow when I first met them.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
I met them at Reggie's my brother, eugene
McIntosh, him and Terry Hogan.
I had brought them out to do ashow at Reggie's.
I had brought some Harold'schicken for Betty the Butcher
and Conway.
I had some Harold's today andthat shit was trash and I felt

(35:42):
like it usually ain't trash andI'm always the person that's
defending heroes over UncleRaymond's, but today, the heroes
that I went to, that shit wastrash.
I'm not going to even say whichheroes it was, and I'm going to
say that shit was trash.
It's not cool.
Go ahead though.
Yeah, but ever since then, bro,I got a good relationship with

(36:02):
all three of them dudes, man,well, all four of them Derringer
, westside, benny, hanna, conway, ed.
You know I always give myflowers to Vic and Johnny Smalls
, who managed Vic, forconnecting me with them.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Yeah, Vic is dope, I'm saying Vic is dope.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
You know what I'm saying, so that's how I got in
contact with them, with some ofthe cats and Vic been doing this
thing for a minute.
Hey man, that brother, hey he's.
Look here, man, he's a beast Iremember I used to see Vic on
the train when I used to berapping on the train.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
And me and him always be talking about hip hop man.
I put him up on Little Brothers.
Man bro, let me tell yousomething, bro.
I put him up on Little Brothersand he became, he like, man GQ.
I became a fan of Fonte andNightwonder Little.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Brother, dope as fuck bro.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Well, put it like this I always say Nightwonder,
fonte, big Poop, that was dope.
I think it kind of took adecline with Nightwonder to stop
being part of the group, likethat minstrel show.
Classic album, from the recordsto the skits, classic album

(37:11):
straight through.
I always prefer Fante as alyricist compared to I just
think that I think that I'mprobably starting some shit when
I say this.
I think that if you put'mprobably starting some shit when
I say this, I think that if youput rapper Big Pooh in a group
with anybody that's a sub par MC, that little brother would not

(37:35):
have been as dope as they was.
Like Fonte is super dope, he doand I think people A lot of
times I think people don't evenunderstand that.
Drake said himself that.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Fante was his myth, like his inspiration,
Inspiration, yeah, so that's Ialways.
Anytime somebody bring a littlebrother, I got to go there, man
.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah, but that's how I actually connected with
Griselda.
Now to the Chicago history shitthat I wanted to bring up to
you, man.
I was.
I was like I had the privilegeand honor of meeting a man.
His name was Dr Phil Coran.
Okay, you know he, you know.

(38:19):
Rest in peace.
He died at the age of I think104, 103.
Damn, but in peace.
He died at the age of, I think,104 or 103.
Damn.
But for a lot of people thatdon't know who Dr Phil Coran is,
dr Phil Coran was the man whotaught Earth Wind Fire how to
use the kalimba instrument.
Get the fuck out.
Yeah, yeah, you know.

(38:42):
A lot of people don't know.
Earth Wind Fire started here inChicago.
I didn't know that shit.
Yeah, that's the fire.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
You know a lot of people don't know Earth.
Wind Fire started here inChicago I didn't know that shit.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yeah, maurice White, verdean White, my brother's a
huge Earth Wind Fire fan.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Earth Wind Fire got started here in Chicago and Dr
Phil Coran used to talk them howto use the kalimba and stuff
like that and you know I had theprivilege of I'm trying to
figure out I had the privilegeof.
The kalimba is like a like aspiritual kind of instrument.

(39:13):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying,but he taught them how to use
that instrument and Dr.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
Phil.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Corrine had some sons .
And, yeah, he, corrine, hadsome sons.
He got a couple of sons and allhis sons played instruments
like trumpet saxophone.
They in this group called y'allremember the hypnotics, the
hypnotics, brass ensemble.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
I'm thinking about the drink my bad, the hypnotic
brass ensemble that was the nameof the drink the hypnotic brass
assemble.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
That was the name of the group they used to be
playing on the subway platform.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
I do I remember?
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
That's Dr Phil Coran.
Kids, get the fuck out of here.
Yes, hey man.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
That's a Chicago history for y'all man.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
That's the Phil Coran taught Irwin and Fire how to
play the kal Kalimba and hissons are the Hypnotic Brass
Assemble.
That's one Chicago history.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
They used to play down at the Cotton Club too,
didn't they Exactly?
That was dope as hell.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
You know it's crazy, like I said, because I'm not
even from Chicago, but I studyup on a lot of these shit Like
dude.
It fucked my head up when Ifound out that Gil Scott Heron
is from Cranktown.
Fuck, y'all didn't know that.
Huh, I'm trying to figure outwhere the fuck Cranktown is at

(40:37):
63rd and Kenbark.
Okay, cool, that's where allthe mo's at.
But yeah.
Gil Scott Heron was born on thesouth side of Chicago on 63rd
and Ken Bark, and I saw GilScott Heron.
The last time I saw Gil ScottHeron before he passed was at
the House of Blues.
I think they changed the name,bro.

(40:57):
That's why I had it mixed up,because 63rd and Kenbrook is
close to O Block.
So yeah, it's kind of.
I think they're going to changethat.
Yeah, I don't think it's goingto be Cranktown, yeah, but yeah,
that's another Chicago historyright there.
Yeah.
You know, what I'm saying, youknow, because one of my boys he
was like wait, I didn't know.

(41:18):
Gil Scott Henry was fromChicago.
I'm like, yeah, he born inChicago, super soulful, super
soulful man, you know, and whenI met him he was cool as hell.
You met Gil Scott Hammer.
Yeah, I met him, but when I methim, you had pictures, man, I
caught him at a bad time, man,he was going through his demons,
bruh, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, but,dude, I got so many Bruh, it's

(41:42):
like my mother would be tellingme, like, man, you need to come
out with a book, man, becauseyou got all these.
Dude, I got pictures from backin 1993, bruh, it's like you
ever met the brat, of course,Did you always know that she was
the brat?
I've always been cool with thebrat.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
You know the I met the brat.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
I met the brat through Pink House, but I also
met the brat through this cat.
I don't know if y'all rememberJay Boogie.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
Oh yeah, he used to make the jackets and shit.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Yeah, he used to make the clothes and stuff like that
Him and Jay Boogie used to gowith each other.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
I wonder if he knew.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
That's for another story.
That's it.
I wonder if the writing was onthe wall.
You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, that's a whole otherstory.
But yeah, yeah, but no, when Iyou know the brat.
When I met she cool people youknow, I could tell you name of
people that I met.

(42:40):
That was some straight up dicksand assholes.
Man, Give me Damn.
I was about to say give me twodicks, but that didn't sound
right.
Tell me two dicks.
Yeah, that sounds right.
Before I do this, the platformyou're on, you don't got no hell

(43:01):
of a Y'all got a big platformfor your podcast, I think so,
Okay, I don't want to say thename, man, If you got a big
platform, I don't want to saythe name, you know what I'm
saying, unless y'all could editthis shit out.
Give us a hint, I shall oh.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
That's it, get the.
Unless y'all can edit this shitout, give us a hint, I shall.
Oh, all right, that's it,that's it, that's it, that's it,
that's it, get the.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
Straight up asshole bro.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
He's one of them, the other one, the other one, the
other person I about to mention.
Just do the hint.
Just do the hint.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Back in the days.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Oh no, no man, no bro , no bro, yeah, straight up,
asshole man not a fan of neitherof these dudes.
Man, alright, well, damn well,give us, give us.
Alright, let me take a break onthat.
Hey, man, shout out to all themotherfuckers out there that got
the hint and they going back onon Instagram.
I'm gonna go tell to all themotherfuckers out there that got
the hint and ain't going backon Instagram to go tell them

(44:06):
what was said, and now they'regoing to be at our ass.
Hey, it's the Shits Podcast,man, it's the Shits.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
Hey everybody, it's comedian Stephanie Robertson
with the Shits.
Come check it out.
You can follow me on Instagramat Stephanie underscore
underscore Robertson.
I will see you there.
Make sure to follow what's up,boy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we are nowback at the Shits Podcast.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Hey, where we shooting shit.
Hey, man, we starting.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
We kind of starting some shit.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
When I get off here, someone want to say to you.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
Yes, I want to say to you too.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
You're going to trip out when I tell you this.
Okay, shout out to my man,andres Haley, talking about the
evolution of hip-hop, theevolution of black men, hip-hop
and the importance of black menpresenting themselves as

(44:53):
intelligent.
You know, I'm saying have somekind of smarts.
What's your thoughts on that?
And then do you think thatwe're doing that and do you
think that the audience embraces?
it as well.
You know what?
No, I think we're doing it.
I think some people embrace itand some people don't embrace it
, man, and some people, man,they still they.
They want to see ignitionniggas be on some ignorant shit.

(45:16):
Like I would tell you about myboy, you know, talking about
gucci man.
He was like man, I can't fuckwith gucci man.
Now.
I like gucci man when he wasguap.
You know what I'm saying.
When he was like man.
I can't fuck with Gucci man now.
I like Gucci man when he wasguap.
You know what I'm saying.
When he was ignorant and I'mlike, damn bro, I'm like for
real.
He like, yeah, man, I'll fuckwith him.
He and him went to jail and gothighly intelligent and using

(45:36):
big, articulate words now and hegot all cut up.
So I'm like, right same thing.
Like we were talking aboutChief Keef.
I'm like my mother was like man.
I like the old Chief Keef, thisnew Chief Keef, I ain't really
feeling him.
He sound too intelligent.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
I can understand.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
I'm like right so y'all don't want, y'all don't
want brothers, y'all don't wantus brothers to evolve and and
grow up and be intelligent.
So it's a.
You know, like I said, you gotpeople that embrace the growth
and the intelligence and thenyou got some.
They just want motherfuckersjust to stick to that straight,

(46:13):
that ignorant lean popping pills.
Xanac type bullshit.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Yeah, I mean damn you know.
But I'm gonna yeah, I mean damnyou know.
I'll call my nigga in a minuteas far as the evolving of
hip-hop here in Chicago.
Man bro, it's involving broLook at it, man Look at it.
I mean, like I look at the samebro and I'm seeing people, Like
I'm seeing people that I seencome up and they are reinventing

(46:39):
themselves and that's what Ithink is dope as fuck.
Shout out to my man, mr Misfit.
Shout out to my man, andreasHaley, el Gordon.
Yes, sir, you got cats likeRufus Sam's.
That's putting his name in.
I am God.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Panamera P, jujilla, taco, my man, El Gordon, just
talking about Taco and it'scrazy because AAU game last
weekend and Taco was up in there.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Which Taco you talking about?
Because you know it's two Taco.
It's an OG Taco.
You remember Taco Box right,used to work for GCI?
No, no, no, taco, taco Box hefrom back in.
It's a different Taco then.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
Okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
It's a lot of Taco, I know right, but nah man, I I
mean it's a lot of taco.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
We hungry in the menu .
Yeah, I know right.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
But no man, I love the evolution man and lately,
like you know, I've been a realhard component of trying to push
a lot of these newer MCs.
Give me some female names.
I'm sorry, I didn't say anyfemale names.
I didn't say nothing about thefemale.
Give me some female names.

(47:46):
That's on the radar right now.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
Here in Chicago.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Yes, Asha Omega, jay Bambi, freddie Oso, oh, yes, you
know, brittany Carter, sweetJuices, definitely Sweet Juices,
really that shit.
Oh, and my girl, this shitnamed Dialectra.
Okay, she nice too.

(48:10):
Dialectra Bianca Shaw.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
Nothing heavy Heart-spinning.
Then, of course, you got theveterans, like Tifa Shauna, my
girl.
Annihilation Shauna.
Fine as fuck.
Yeah, you know.
Ange 13,.
Lisa Vasquez.
You know, what I'm saying yougot, you got, you know it's a
lot of talent.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
Oh, it's definitely a lot of talent, a lot of talent,
man.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
And you know I'm being a real hard component of
trying to push that talent out.
Man, and let Chicago know Everytime I look up on the media
motherfuckers talking aboutdrill music man, this shit, you
know, this shit, way more biggerthan drill music man.
It ain't about, no, you know nodisrespect to them.
Dude G Herbo and Chief Keef andValley and all them, but,

(49:00):
motherfucker, we got some realwordsmith man, yes, but
motherfucker, we got some realwordsmith man, yes, fucking.
Vic Spencer, fillmore, green,andreas, haley, griffin, race
Race yeah, right there.
Simeon from Primer Ridge yeah,il Gordon, bruce Black, jay
Hayes, ju Jilla Panamera, pRufus Sims it's like we got some

(49:27):
it's broke.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
That's the hitters out here.
Man hey, man listen.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
Names need to be heard, man.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
I've been seeing motherfuckers spit since Larry
Miller.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
You know what I'm saying.
Back at the motherfucking BlueNote.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Real shit.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
So I've seen motherfuckers come and I've seen
motherfuckers go, and I've seenmotherfuckers come and I've
seen motherfuckers go and I'veseen motherfuckers that, like I
said, reinvent themselves andwho have a fucking catalog.
That's why I always bring up myman, bruce Black.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, well, bruce Black was abeast, though, man.
I miss that dude man.
Let people know about Bluepointwhat it's called now, because a
lot of people the Blue Note.
I don't even know what it'scalled.

(50:06):
It's called the Point.
Oh yeah, it's called the Pointnow.
I didn't even know that, yeahthe same people that own the
club Bourbon and Division.
They own the Point, but beforeit was the Point it used to be
called the Blue Note Bro.
They need to make a documentaryabout the Blue Note.
Foil was the point.
It used to be called the bluenote.
They need to make a documentaryabout the blue note and they

(50:27):
need to make a documentary aboutsub-T.
I don't know if it's one theymade already, but it definitely
needs to be one made about thosetwo spots Real shit.
And they need to make one aboutelbow rule.
Oh, bruh, I got so much storiesat the elbow room, bruh.
One of the stories was when FatJoe came to Chicago and Fat Joe

(50:51):
had like 20 niggas with him.
Man, motherfuckers, armyfatigue, fatigue Got bangers on
him Right, all, all all.
And it was Fat Joe and Kymancame at the elbow room together
and the Common I'm talking about, with the four corner hustler,
whooping nigga, punching niggasin the face.

(51:11):
This before he met, you know,erykah Badu and you know got all
.
Once you get the Erykah Badupussy, it's over.
Yeah, it's a wrap, but man theyhad the whole they had the whole
elbow room surrounded, bruh andman dude, I remember Fat Joe
and Common rocking on stagetogether.
Man, this was when they weresigning Relativity Records.

(51:33):
Okay, you know, this was backin the Peter Kang days.
You know what I'm saying?
It's so crazy just to see howthey evolved from what they used
to be, both at Joe and Common Iremember what they used to be
to what they is now.
And I'm like wow, what's yourfavorite Common album?
I'm going to say my favoriteCommon album is actually the

(51:58):
album that I was to be on.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Which is what?

Speaker 2 (52:00):
One Day it All Makes Sense and I'm going to tell you
the story on that.
That's the first one.
No, that's the first one.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
No, the first one was Can I?

Speaker 2 (52:07):
Borrow a Dollar.
Yeah, okay.
Okay, that was classic too, butI like One Day I was to be on
the One Day.
It All Makes Sense.
I did a joint on there withCommon and this MC named Bamski
the Bigot and it was produced byDoug Inf and I remember, and I
remember, I remember me Bamskiand Common was at.

(52:30):
It was the studio downtown onGrand.
It got tore down.
Now it's called CRC, chicagoRecording Center.
Oh man, I think I want to say Ithink Doug Inf somebody.
Better put an insurance policyon your way, because there's a
lot of shit.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
you know man, Real shit.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
I think Doug Infinite still got that joint.
I think he got to look, I thinkhe should.
I need to hit him up see if hecan find it.
But that was one of the funmemories I had, hanging around
Common man and I was prayinglike damn, I hope that joint we
did make it on One Day.
It All Makes Sense.
But then I got to find outthrough Common.

(53:07):
Common actually told me likeman, relativity Records was on
some bullshit and they shelvedthat joint, yeah, and I was like
fuck, but I ain't tripping.
Yeah, I got paid.
You know, common, you know.
That's all that matters, that'sall that matters.
He hit me with some bread, butthat's my favorite common album.
One Day it All Makes Sense.
And of course I like the LawProfessor remix of Resurrection.

(53:30):
Yo gotta take a break realquick.
And man shout out to all themotherfuckers out there that
really been, that really wasgoing to sub T, getting out of
sub T at 2 o'clock in themorning, then going over to the
Blue Note leaving Blue Note at 4o'clock in the morning and
being late for work.

(53:51):
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Speaker 2 (54:41):
man and yo.
We just been in thismotherfucker chopping it up with
GQ, GQ the teacher.
Hey man, listen.
A lot of motherfuckers like totalk about Chicago hip-hop, but
it's only so many motherfuckersthat have actually lived Chicago
hip-hop from a certain point toa certain point to a certain
point.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
One of them, motherfuckers, is you, bro, so
that's why I felt like we reallyneeded to get you up on the
platform, because you know, youknow what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
You've been in the mix man, when you start to think
about where hip-hop Chicagohip-hop is going and where it's
been what are some of the?
Things you think we need to dobetter.
I think we need.

(55:35):
You know, it's like I feel likeChicago hip-hop still feel kind
of like separated.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
You know what I'm saying.
You know some cats be thinkingthey better than other cats just
because they got a hugeplatform, or they know people in
the music world.
Yeah, and you know, I wish theywould stop being like that and
everybody just like get togetherand work together, man and

(56:05):
network together and shit likethat.
You know it's like say, forexample, I'm a you know me
example.
You know I know a lot of peoplein the music world, I know a
lot of people in the industry,but I'm not going to be acting,
funny, acting and acting all youknow got my you know ego and
all that shit.
You know what I'm saying beacting, funny, acting and acting
all got my ego and all thatshit, just because you know what

(56:26):
I'm saying, that I ain't gonnahelp artists that I fuck with
everyday and that I got mutualrespect and admiration for
that's what I would love to see.
Man, one of the people that I'vebeen talking with lately man me
and Decker Durst was talkingabout him man, and I want to

(56:46):
shout him out is my brother,andrew Barber from Fake Shore
Drive.
Me and Andrew have been talkinga lot, man, and he's one of the
cats he's been helping.
He's been putting this.
A lot of people might not seeit, but I thought so.
He kind of caught some flacksome years ago.

(57:06):
Yeah, he caught some flackbecause you know, hey, you know,
of course, you know he make hismoney off the drill shit.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
A lot of what's the name.
What's my man?

Speaker 2 (57:16):
name my own Lyrical Lemonade Fuck, what's the name?
You're a white boy, jew kid man.
Cole Bennett, cole Bennett.
Okay, he made millions off thatshit.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Don't fuck that man, because it's sad man, but you
know you're making all yourmoney off of the drill shit.
But then you got all these dopemotherfuckers out here.
You know what I'm saying.
You ain't even focusing on them.
But Andrew, on the other hand,he has been focusing, he's been
tapped in.
Okay, you know what I'm saying.
You know he played.

(58:01):
You know one of the artists I'mworking with, this kid named
Monty Jordan.
You know he of the artists I'mworking with, this kid named
Monty Jordan, he played his shiton his Spotify.
So when I saw that, I was likeokay, this dude tapped in.
Then he played my homie.
Another artist I'm working with, this kid named Joel.

(58:22):
Q oh yeah, joel Q, he nasty, buthe played Joel Q and Britney
shit on his platform.
So I'm like, okay, he's nasty,but he played Joel Q and Britney
shit on his platform.
So I'm like, okay, he tappingin.
Then, look, he started playingPanamera P and Jew Jilla and
Phil Moore and all that shit.
So I'm like, so he tapped inand he posted me helping me out
with some other shit too I'm notgoing to say it on here.
My brother Andreas know whatI'm talking about, but I ain't

(58:46):
going to say it on here.
It's a surprise.
But nah, man, once we could getbrothers like Andrew Barber and
Johnny Smalls, who managed FixSpencer and I Am God, and
Brianna from Swank PR and BreeSpecific from WGCI she worked

(59:06):
with what's the Word TV Once wecould get people like them on
board, I think that would be agood look for.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
Chicago Hip Hop and the Underground.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Foundation and so far it's working because Bree
Specific, she's been plugging usup on what's the Word TV and
GCI.
And then it's this other radiostation called Illinois Radio.
Yeah, Illinois Radio.
They've been plugging the shitout of Jujilla, Vic, Panamera, P
, Brittany Freddie, you knowwhat I'm saying.
They've been playing on shit.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
B Cole right B Cole's a good one, yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
B Cole and Illinois Jones.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
They're pretty right.
You know what I'm saying.
So they've been doing theirthing.
And then you know, man, youknow I'm still pissed off that
Vocalo gone, man, that was hugeman.
That shit pissed me off, man.
That shit pissed me off becauseVocalo was like the Bro.
That was huge, real shit.
You know what I'm saying,especially for like underground.
Exactly that that was bro.
That was huge, real shit.
You know what I'm saying, andlike especially for like

(01:00:05):
underground exactly that shitwas huge.
So when I heard Jesse De La Penawell, you know, from back in
the elbow rooms, jesse De LaPena and Bico and DJ Lady D said
that Vocaloid's about to closeI was like damn, that's fucked
up, yeah, that's fucked up.
But by the clothes I was likedamn, yeah, that's fucked up,

(01:00:27):
yeah, that's fucked up.
Like I said, man, I love thedirection, I'm happy as hell.
I love the direction thehip-hop scene is moving in
Chicago and we finally gettingthe attention you deserve.
My boy, I Am God, just postedthis video with this posse cut,
which is ridiculous.
Today, okay, I Am God, I Okay,ufa, sim and Ju, jilla and Vic

(01:00:48):
and Warner and all them.
That shit is dope.
And then I see Lupe did it.
He posted shit with my boy,chris Adams, one of the illest
video directors in Chicago.
Yeah, christopher Adams, impactStudios.
You know what I'm saying.
I saw that.
And then, of course, man, thatclip Common posted up today with

(01:01:12):
him and P-Rock Gosh.
I saw that shit.
That shit brought a smile on myface like man, chicago bringing
that real shit back, man, wealways do.
And I'm saying this as a NewYorker.
Chicago is bringing that,because you might as well say
I'm a Chicagoan because I'vebeen living in this motherfucker

(01:01:33):
for 32 years now.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
Chicagoan as well too .
As much history.
As you got you official, we'lltake you and send another
motherfucker back.
I'm trying to figure out whowe're going to ship off.
Yeah, real quick, we're goingto get into this.
Alright, y'all.
This is the game portion of theshow, and this week's

(01:01:58):
contestant is the one, the onlyGQ the teacher.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
So the game this week , man is called four for four,
not like Wendy's the one, theonly GQ, the teacher.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
So the game this week , man, is called 4 for 4.
Not like Wendy's, because we'llget sued for that shit.
Okay.
Something else, and it's nothard, it's um like we always say
um it's real easy to do,alright, so basically, I'm going
to hit you with a word or aphrase and you got to respond in

(01:02:27):
four words, just four words.
You can only respond in fourwords.
Okay, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
All right.
So sometimes you know itdepends on Don't worry about it,
you get it.
It ain't too hard, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
First word Black Air Force 1's.
Only for the grimy niggas.
Only for the grimy.
There, it is only the grimyniggas.
Wear the black Air Force 1'sthere you go if you want some,
you know doing stangs and shitlike that, there you go.

(01:03:04):
If you want some, you knowdoing stangs and shit like that,
there you go.
Now you know.
Yeah, uncle Remus, you knowwhat?
Shout out to my brother WoodHarris man, he put me up on.
Uncle Remus Can't be for a word.
Oh, I like Uncle Remus Goddamn,that was good.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
I like Uncle, that's on point I like Uncle Red, All
right cool Whack MCs.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Sexy Red NBA Youngboy Lotto.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, bro.
We ain't going to go there withLotto, bro, we ain't gonna go
there with Lotto.
We ain't gonna go there with.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
Lotto, lotto.
We still trying to get you onthe show.
We'll talk.
You know what I'm saying.
Just don't, just don't, evendon't mad, but you just heard,
we're trying to get you on theshow, shut up, um, alright, that
was three.
But towel coats wow, that wascoats.
Wow, that was throwback.
That's pretty fucking good bro.

(01:04:07):
That was yeah, throwback.
Yeah, alright.
The double door Monumental spot.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
Legendary.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
That's three History All right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
I'm going to hit you with a hard one right now.
Andre Vasquez, crazy, this manis an alderman.
Now, mmm, that's five.
Crazy, he's an alderman.

(01:04:51):
There you go, all right, forthose of you who don't know
Andre Vansquares, prime PrimeLast one.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
Purple box.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
I love them.
That's true.
Yeah, I love them.
Yeah, you put the yeah in frontof them.
Yeah, I love them.
Alright, man, the next point.
Y'all hey yo, y'all gotta giveit up.
My man GQ the teacher, manplaying the game, hey yo, we're
gonna take a break real quick.
We're gonna come right backwrapping this up.
My man GQ the teacher, y'allheard all that shit, man, y'all,
make sure y'all stay in tuneand support Chicago Hip Hop

(01:05:36):
y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
It's the shit, y'all it's the shit, it's the shit.
But I can't say that, you knowyeah yeah, yeah, back at the
Shits Podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
And one man GQ the teacher.
Hey y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
Anybody that's a fan of Chicago Hip Hop, whether it
be past present man, definitelyappreciate what you brought to
the platform tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
man, shit that we didn't even know about.
You know a lot of motherfuckersdidn't know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
Tyler, wait, let me stop.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
I didn't say that yeah, didn't know he made that
record.
But certain shit man thatmotherfuckers in Chicago did not
realize was going on, a lot ofconnections that people didn't
even realize, like the wholeBernie Mac thing on the train,
all that.
I thought that was super dopeand I would think that it would

(01:06:26):
be even doper for somebody likeyou to have witnessed that.
That's like that's what I said,man.
Somebody need to.
You know they got to keep youin a box or something, man,
because we need the documentaryand we need somebody that was
there to talk about this shitman.
Because Chicago, like you said,chicago has a lot of talent,
chicago has a lot of history andto me it's messed up that we

(01:06:50):
haven't gotten the shine that weshould have got.
You know what I'm saying andnot to discredit anything, but
it's like certain movements gotway more publicity than others
and it's like, why is that?
You know what I'm saying, yeah,yeah, it's like it's so much

(01:07:11):
history, man.
It's like I was talking to oneof my friends.
He was talking to me about um,but uh, one of the artists I'm
working with is captain goldenchild and you know I was, you
know he was asking me.
He was asking yeah, yeah yeah,yeah, yeah, golden child and his
brother, tyree hakeem, both ofthem dope, yeah.

(01:07:34):
But you know he was asking melike Tyree Hakeem, both of them
dope, yeah.
But you know he was asking melike how Tyree Hakeem and Golden
Child got so connected in themusic industry stuff.
And I had to tell him the storyabout, first of all, the way
they got connected through themusic industry stuff is really
through their father.
You know, I've been knowingGolden Child and Tyree Hakeem's

(01:07:55):
father for like like 30 plusyears and his name is Brother
Hashim.
You remember Brother Hashimbecause he used to be in the
group Soldiers at War, what youremember?
Soldiers at War.
Who can forget?
So Brother Hashim used to be inthe group Soldiers at War.

(01:08:16):
But what caught a lot ofpeople's eyes on Brother Hashim
is this documentary calledBackstage with DMX and Jay-Z,
and on the documentary it was apart where they showed DMX and
Jay-Z was backstage freestyling.
You remember the guy that cameout with the Nation of Islam

(01:08:39):
suit on and he started to bustout that freestyle and Jay-Z was
like that's Buddy, that'sGolden Child, and Tyree Hakim,
father, connecting themotherfucking dots, connecting
the motherfucking dots.
So it was through that gettingto find out that brother Hashim

(01:09:00):
used to do security for Jay Z.
Wow, so that's how their names.
You know what I'm saying outthere strong like that, but nah
you know I told Golden Childlike dude, I want to work with
you, man, just off the, not justbecause you talented and you
dope, but I'm doing it off thestrength because of who your old

(01:09:22):
man is.
I've been knowing your old manfor years.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
I connected him with a.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
I connected him with Static Selector.

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
He was on Static Show .

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
That's really what I do, man.
Like I told Decker Durst, mything is connecting the dots.
If I see you talented and Ifuck with you, let's chop it up.
Let's talk about the businessside of it.
Like you know what I'm sayingBecause, like I told Decker,
like look I ain't working.
You know, I'm on disability, Ican't work, I can't do no heavy

(01:09:58):
lifting and I'm like shit.
I know all these people in themusic world and music is not
phones but that's a milliondollar phone right there, Jack.
Shit, might as well use it andtry to make some kind of source
of income.
So that's when I was like youknow what?
I want to start working withthese younger cats, man, I love
the movement Rico Shy and MontyJordan and Asho Omega, and you

(01:10:23):
know Vic Well, even though Vic,you know, he close, damn near
close, to my age.
But Vic Fillmore, andreas, youknow, jubigilla, ilgort, all
these cats, I want to startpushing their name out more, man
, you should, and I am going todo it.
I'm going to get it.
I don't give a fuck who get mador tired.
I'm going to keep plugging theshit out of their name.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
I got to throw another name out Vell the
General.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
Oh, come on, man, I got to throw Vell the General
out, you know what you know, cat, be coming at me like dude why
you ain't mention my name?
I'm like dude, I'm just oneperson.
Man See my mother be thinkingbecause, oh, you know, he work
with 24-7 HH and he know thesepeople.
You know you need to mention myname so I can get some.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
You know that clout chasing shit man no, no, no,
that's not what I was sayingabout Vel.
I said about Vel was Vel dope I, I love Vel.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
It's so many dope MCs , I just can't mention every
damn body you know what I'msaying I be trying to tell some
cats be getting mad at me likedude why you ain't mention my
name before.
I'm like dude.
That's why I said it's so manyto mention.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
But no.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
Vel, I fuck with Vel.
And crazy thing I got up on Velthrough.
We had this event called Boost.
You know it was for the Boostcell phone, okay, but it was in
collab with 24-7.
And it was called Boost the Micevent.
So I got up on, you know, velthe General through that.
But I also got up on Vel theGeneral through my homie Race.

Speaker 3 (01:11:54):
Oh yeah, race, race, we plug with.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
Prime Meridian he put me on to Vell and then later
Vic put me on to Vell and that'show I got to know about.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
Vell, but no.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Vell, he's definitely one of them, guys man, you know
what I'm saying.
It's sad because he was to openup for Benny the Butcher.
You know, Benny was out hererecently and Vel was to open up
for him, but it didn't panthrough.
Like you know what I'm saying,I was hoping that was going to
happen, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
I think he did it before, though, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
I think he did open up.
So, man, look man, I'm a firmbeliever that time is money, man
, and I truly do appreciate youspending this time with us man
Like for real.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
Like I said, I have a lot of respect for you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
I know you've been in this for a minute.
You know what I'm saying For aminute Like a staple in this
Chicago hip-hop thing, so I justreally wanted to pick your
brain bro.
Yeah, before I get off, could Imake a shout-out?
Hell, yeah, yeah, I want toshout'ma.

(01:12:59):
Just shout out people that'slike in my close circle, man.
So shout out to my man VicSpencer, phil Moore, green
Griffin.
Shout out to Ronadab from 247HH.
Shout out to my man, andrewBarber from Fake Shore Drive.
Shout out to my man, andreasBarber from Fake Shore Drive.
Shout out to my man AndreasHaley, ill Gordon.
Shout out Brittany Carter.

(01:13:22):
Shout out Freddie O'Shull.
Shout out to my girl LyricalHearts.
Shout out to my girl, breeSpecific from WGCI what's the
Word TV?
And shout out to Rashid Hadi,my man, fifth Element.
My man SC.
Oh, you know that's anotherdude man.

(01:13:47):
I be so fucking mad like dude.
This dude, sc deserve hisfucking flowers.
Man, a lot of people don't knowthis man worked with Alchemist
and mob deep man.
You know what I'm saying.
That's another.
You know, that's another dudeman.
I gotta you know, I gotta puthis name back on the map.
Man, I'm talking about sc.
I feel you know what I'm saying.
Shout out to my man decadenceman.

(01:14:09):
This is another brother righthere, gorilla glue.
25 plus years in the game.
We've been knowing each otherman.
You know what I'm saying,silent, silent killer this dude
fucked me up tonight, man.
He fucked me up tonight, man,especially that joint with El
Gordon, and I Am God that yousee how it was when he played.
I was like email that to meright now, bro, you know what

(01:14:32):
I'm saying.
But nah, man, just shout out toall the underground Chicago hip
hop man it's.
You know, I love the directionof moving in and, like I said,
whatever I could do, pull somestring and help, you know, get
this shit popping.
I'm willing to do it, man, andI'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure
motherfuckers appreciate it, bro, like straight up, cause it's

(01:14:54):
always good to have somebody,man, that's supporting what
you're doing and believing inyou.
You know real talk.
And you mentioned Decker man.
Like I always get props toDecker man, none of this shit
would be possible if it wasn'tfor Decker putting the stamp on
it you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
this is literally his motherfucking table.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
This is his shit.
This is it.
This is it right here, hey man?
I want to leave y'all with this, hey man, because we've been
talking about connecting thedots.
I want y'all to think about thewhole concept of connections,
man, and the importance ofconnections, the importance of
being connected to somebody,whether it be a personal

(01:15:31):
relationship, whether it be abusiness relationship, but
having that connection tosomebody means that person feels
something.
They feel some type of way.
There's some type of emotion.
It may be.
I feel like I think you're dope, so I'm going to try to help
you out.
You know what I'm saying.
I feel like you're a goodperson, so I want to hang out
with you, whatever the case maybe, but understand the
importance of connections andunderstand that connections are

(01:15:54):
important in your everyday lifereal shit.
Also, make fans, not followers.
Followers will get you clout,but fans will get you work.
Trust the process.
Realize that the only thingthat comes overnight is dreaming
and slobbing and babies.
You know the thing I hate Ihate man is you know that clout

(01:16:15):
got.
The thing I hate I hate man isyou know that cloud chasing shit
.
I hate that shit, man.
It's like you know a couple ofthe cats that hit me up that
asked me to manage them yeah.
I had to tell.
I had to tell them like, nah, Idon't want to do that.
And I know the reason why theywant me to manage them, because
they see I know a lot ofmotherfuckers in the music

(01:16:36):
entertainment world.
So they think man, gq, manageme, man, that'll get me in the
door.
See, that's that cloud chasingshit right there.
Put the work in.
You know what I'm saying.
Put the work in, man.
You know what I'm saying.
I can't stop.
You know cloud chasing and yes,mans, them two things I hate,
bro.

(01:16:57):
If you and yes, mans, them twothings I hate, bruh, if you
can't step up in my face, mantell me like man, bruh, I'm not
feeling your shit, or you whack,you know what I'm saying and
you agree with everything that,oh man, he dope this, he dope
that.
Nah, man, I don't like thattype of shit.
You know what I'm saying andyou know that.
Go once again.
That's that, yes, man, shit.
And then another thing with theclout chasing shit.

(01:17:19):
I was talking to Dec earlierand I was telling him you know,
last year you know I'm goingthrough my issue with my kidney
and heart failure and last year,when Wu-Tang and Nas and De La
Soul had that concert at theUnited.
Center, 35 motherfuckers blew myphone up.

(01:17:40):
35 of these people, some ofthese people, I haven't heard
from like three, four, fiveyears.
They hit my line up and not oneof them people asked me like
how you doing?
You need a couple of dollarsfor your pocket.
You want me to get somegroceries for you, you want me
to come by the crib, come hangout with you.
All 35 of these motherfuckersasked me yo could you think you

(01:18:04):
could get me backstage at theUnited Center to see hang out?
Chop it up with Nas, Shit, keepgoing.
You know what I'm saying.
Chop it up with Nas.
And I'm like, damn, that's whaty'all think about me, Just to
get backstage, pass.
You know what I did.
I deleted all 35 of theirnumbers out of my phone.
Wow, I don't need people likethat.

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
I don't need energy like that man we definitely
keeping that audio Definitelykeeping that audio.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
Yeah man, it ain't going gonna be on video, but
you'll hear that shit.
Like you know, I don't needthings.
I don't need people like that.
Man, if that's all you thinkabout me.
It's like that's why?
you know, you know the problemwhen the promontory did that uh
summit, the benefit for me.
I appreciate it, man.
I appreciate all the flowers,man.
But you know, I was thinkinglike dude, why am I getting all

(01:18:53):
these flowers now?
Because, because you know, Igot kidney and heart failure and
I got IVs all up in my arm inthe hospital bed.
Why I wasn't getting this shitwhen I was healthy.
That's not how Chicago works.
Yeah, when I was healthy youknow what I'm saying when I
wasn't going through this issueand you know, I understand.
That's how it is, man.
It's like motherfuckers gettheir flowers when you either

(01:19:14):
end up in a hospital bed or,even worse, you transition.
And you, because you know shit,they did the same shit with
dylan michael, michael jackson.
Dude, when dylan michaeljackson was alive, motherfuckers
wasn't really showing them lovelike that.
But as soon as they died, oh,everybody a slum village fan,
everybody a dilla fan, everybodyloved michael jackson.

(01:19:35):
Like nah, give them theirflowers while they alive, while
they still healthy, man, well,everybody was loving Michael
Jackson when he was alive.
Well, mostly overseas, somehere in this country.
But motherfuckers startslaughtering him after that
whole thing, the whole kid thing.
You know what I'm saying.
I fuck with Michael Jackson,even when he was going through

(01:19:56):
that shit.
I mean, the man was a genius,you know, like, for real, he was
one of the best entertainers,like you can't.
You can't deny that.
Um, I think because you saidsomething.
You said people don't givepeople their flowers until they
land in the hospital bed, orthey did.
But I think you, you did theopposite tonight.
It's a lot of motherfuckersthat you shouted out.
There's a lot of motherfuckersthat you shouted out.

(01:20:16):
There's a lot of motherfuckersthat you gave props to.
There's a lot of people thatyou mentioned.
You know what I'm saying.
As far as I know, they lookhealthy when I see them.
Motherfuckers, you know whatI'm saying.
So you, you know what I'msaying.
That's breaking that cycle, man.
That's what we all need to do.
Just cut you off, just like.
Say, for example, you ain'tnever see a family member, you
don't really talk with yourfamily member that much, but

(01:20:38):
then a funeral happens when yourcousins die.
All your family members show upand then everybody start.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
We gotta get up cuz.

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
We gotta get up with you.
Dude, holler at me, Don't waituntil no funeral come up.
You know what?
I'm saying Holler at me now.
You know what.
I'm saying I stay in touch withall my family.
Man, I'll wait till no damnfuneral.
You know what I'm saying.
Hey, bro, you know.
But like I told you before,that's a whole nother pod right
there.
Hey, y'all Check it out Onceagain.

(01:21:09):
Shout out to my man, deckerDurst.
Shout out to my girl, b Karen,since she couldn't be here
tonight.
Yeah, that's a whole otherstory.
Y'all make sure y'all check outthe Shiz Podcast on Spotify,
apple Podcast, anywhere you getyour podcasts at, on Instagram.

(01:21:29):
The Shiz Podcast, facebook.
The Shiz Podcast TikTok samething and just man, those shits
podcast.
Tiktok same thing.
Um, and just man, like I telly'all we appreciate the support.
Tell a friend to tell a friend.
Y'all make sure y'all staytuned to my man gq and any and
everybody that this manmentioned tonight, because if he
mentioned them tonight theydope, it ain't because a

(01:21:49):
motherfucker slid thismotherfucker a check or no shit
like that.
These are motherfuckers.
That's literally fucking dope,and they put out dope music,
real shit.
So y'all make sure y'all get intune with them and we will
holler at y'all next week we outit's the sheets.
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