What role does the divine feminine play in songwriting, and how does it impact the emotional depth of today’s music? Join us in an intimate conversation with talented vocalists Jenee Jones and Tandaleria as they share their personal and artistic journeys. We promise you'll walk away with insights on authenticity, resilience, and how setting boundaries can fuel creative growth. Listen as they recount their friendship's evolution into a creative partnership and how those experiences have shaped their careers. Jenee and Tandaleria also provide a candid look at the music industry, sharing tales like Jenee's challenging yet transformative first studio session.
Our discussion takes an emotional turn as we explore the dynamics of relationships and songwriting. Jenee and Tandaleria offer their perspectives on how the lack of emotional depth in today’s music is linked to the underrepresentation of women in the studio, touching on the importance of vulnerability and its portrayal in songs, especially from a male perspective. We delve into past relationship fears and lessons, emphasizing the joy and growth that can arise from embracing vulnerability. The conversation tackles recognizing when to move on from unfulfilling connections, an essential skill in both personal and professional realms.
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Yo, yo, what up, what up, what up y'all.
It's your boy, monson Starat.
It's the Shits Podcast, wherewe're either shooting the shit,
starting some shit or picking upwhat's left off.
I'm your host, monson Starat,the coolest cat you heard thus
far, aka DJ Booty Rubber, likeno other.
If you don't believe me, man,go ask your mother and man check
(00:40):
it out this week, tell y'alleverybody that come on.
The podcast is special and itain't like slow special.
You know cheese bus back of thebus.
Special.
You know what I'm saying.
This is special, special, buteverybody is special.
But anyway, this week I havethe pleasure of talking to two
phenomenal vocalists who have adope song.
(01:02):
Like song is dope, it's soulful, I want to say it's seductive.
Damn, it's a lot, it's a lot.
I definitely think it'ssomething y'all should check out
.
Y'all make sure y'all put y'allhands together for the one, the
onlys, because it's two of themJhene Jones and Tendulia.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Thank you, what up?
How y'all feeling I'm good.
How are?
Speaker 1 (01:30):
you.
Good, I can't complain.
I can't complain, not at all,not at all.
Before I go any further, I dowant to give some shouts out to
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So, with that being said, tandaleah and janae jones all right,
(02:39):
I'll always like to do acheck-in with our guests.
So, since y'all are thephenomenal guests this week, how
y'all week?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
ma'am, I've had a pretty good week, mr Booty
Rubber.
It's been a good week.
It's been a good week.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
It's been a good week , all right.
So I know y'all artists becauseI heard y'all work.
When I ask this question, Ithink people think about it in a
different way.
When I ask you what you'reworking on, I don't mean what
you're working on in the studio.
I mean what you're working onwith yourself emotionally and
(03:21):
mentally, what y'all working onthis week.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Okay, should I go first?
Sure, yeah, go ahead.
Okay, what I have been workingon this week and it's
interesting that you say that,because either type of
conversations- Tenderly and Ihave all the time.
One of the things that I amworking on is making sure that I
am being vocal and showing upfor myself a hundred percent.
(03:48):
I don't care who don't like it.
I'm going to be respectful andsaying what I need to say, but I
absolutely placing boundariesand it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I like to hear that.
I mean like, I think it's, Ithink it's necessary.
Everybody needs to have theirboundaries.
I like the fact that you saidit respectfully.
I'm not trying to take anythingaway from you, but this is how
I roll.
If you can't honor that, thenrespectfully get the fuck on
(04:21):
that's real this week.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I am working on keeping it together.
That's what I'm working on.
I had to clean up, get my spacetogether so I can get my mind
together, so I can just betogether.
Basically, that's what's up.
That's what's up.
Yeah, that's what's up?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I appreciate that.
I appreciate that.
So my first question is where?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
y'all from.
I'm from Chicago, okay.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
What's that?
What's that Today is from Gary.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Okay, okay, that's what's up.
I was looking at the background.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I'm like they don't look like Gary, but I know
that's the thing Wait, wait,wait, not too much now Not too
much, it's all good, it's allgood.
How did y'all get startedperforming and creating music?
Well, a few well, I don't wantto say a few quite a few years
(05:27):
ago at this point, I actuallymet Tan at one of our mutual
friends.
At her performance she sangsomewhere and I was asked to do
background vocals for her, and Idid, and I saw somebody come
out of the crowd and it was Tan,and she walked up to me and
said hey, my name is Tan.
(05:48):
I'm sessions with Tan and Leahand and we hit it off from there
and we have been friends eversince and it's been a pleasure
making music with her.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
That's dope.
Yeah, I can hear the strings inthe background, the music
playing in the background.
I'm like awesome Individually.
Can y'all remember y'all firststudio session.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yes, yes, I can.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
It was very interesting.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yes, I can, it was.
Oh, it was very interesting, um, cause it was my vocal director
from high school.
She ended up being my vocalcoach and one of my first
sessions it was more so trackingwas with her and her partner
and it got real ugly cause henever I had to pay all his money
and he never gave me the beatthat he was making and it became
a whole ordeal.
But it wasn't a good experiencenot been a great experience,
but that was more of a trackingsession and, uh, my actual first
studio session.
I was just really nervous.
Okay it was fun.
I remember being really, really,really, really nervous when I
actually was recording.
(07:07):
I'm like oh, this is different.
That was a long, that was likein 2011.
Yeah, like 2011.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
So what do you find yourself doing differently now
compared to that first session?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Well one.
I have a lot more resources, soI don't have to be like let me
pay you and then chase you downfor my beat.
I don't got to do that anymore.
So there's that.
So that's gone.
I'm not as nervous, more sobecause I understand it.
And then now from then to now.
(07:43):
I'm also a recording engineer,so now I also completely
understand the ins and outs ofeverything, because I remember
my first project that I releasedthe mix is awful and I didn't.
I remember being proud of itright at the time and then into
it like, oh, this is not hiddenright, and not knowing why.
(08:04):
And then I had to, you know,took some years, learned how to
do whatever I'm like.
Ok, this is the problem.
Now I know how to keep, I knoweven if I'm not the one
engineering I know how toexplain it.
And now I know what works forme when I'm in the studio, how,
what my order of operation iswith recording and everything.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
So OK, jane, what about you?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
As far as.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Can you remember your first studio session?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
My first studio session was actually for my 16th
birthday.
My mom bought me a studiosession for three of my friends
and myself for my birthday and Irecorded some terrible song
(08:56):
that exists somewhere in theether, yeah.
But, as Tan has stated, it tooka lot of growth, a lot of trial
and error to get to the placethat we are at today, and I
would even like to say that thepandemic really, even though the
(09:19):
pandemic was a very stressfultime for everybody.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Pandemic was a very stressful time for everybody.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
During the pandemic, tan and I we were on the
Internet every single night justgetting it, trying to write
music and send stuff toproducers back and forth to
Atlanta or LA or wherever thecase may be, because we needed
it to be heard.
And that's really how we kindof got on the path of getting
(09:45):
the music to where it is now,because at that time I don't
think Tan had taken any of theengineering sessions or lessons
yet and we were like these songsare amazing, but I don't know
why we're not getting anyplacements like we should.
Something's not right.
And so she took it upon herselfto go and get some lessons, and
after that we've been cookingwith grease.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
That's super dope.
Speaking of such, I want totalk about the song titled
Untitled.
Yes, how did that come about?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
did that come about?
I had been working with theother artists on the song
D-Lowes.
We met through Rex Hardy.
We met through Rex Hardybecause they were recording
something together.
I had been working on thingswith D-Lowes.
I liked the music he was doing.
I remember telling Jhene and Iwas like I think y'all should
(10:44):
work together.
I think y'all will be be really, really, I think y'all voices
will blend.
Well, I think y'all got asimilar um somewhat vibe kind of
or appreciation for music.
Um, so I set up, I told Lyle'sthe same thing and I set up a
time for them to come togetherand then we met up in the studio
um, I think it's Blockhousestudios, I think that's the name
(11:06):
of it.
We went over there and westarted writing it.
We were, we were all tired.
I remember that.
I remember all of us had had along day today.
I think we met up at seven.
I think we were in the studiotill about three writing this
song.
um, just writing it, justgetting like the the bones done,
like in the you know um mumblesand then lyrics and like we, we
(11:30):
was like we're not leaving outhere, till this song is done
okay yeah, and it's interestingbecause, um, when we got there,
we first of all we were eatingokay, because I need some food
before I do anything but whilewe were in there eating, liles
(11:50):
was playing a track in thebackground Okay, and it was
sounding really good and Tam waslike I'm going to go back here
and see what it is that he'smessing around with and,
surprisingly, this was a trackthat so many people had passed
up on and said that they didn'tlike it, and we immediately knew
, like this is what we need tobe working on this is it.
(12:11):
This is it, and as soon as we,as soon as he turned the
microphone on, we got in there,like she said, and I just threw
some mumbles in there.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
And now we have Untitled.
So I mean like um, I was justplanning for a friend of mine
and she was like that's likesuper sexy, you know.
I'm saying I was like thank you.
So I appreciate y'all thoughtson the current state of
(12:52):
songwriting.
What do you think is?
Do you think it has progressed?
Do you think it's in arecession?
I mean like I'll let y'all saythat because y'all are
songwriters.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Would you like for me to answer this first or you,
fran, go ahead.
As I have stated, since we'vebeen on this, call Monsoon for
the 13 minutes and 17 seconds.
These are the type ofconversations that we have all
the time, and what I mean bythat is, first of all, I respect
(13:30):
all of the singers, songwritersthat are out there, because it
is.
It is not necessary, it is aneasy thing because it is a gift
that is given to you, but whenit is not respected, that can
put you in a really messed upplace.
However, what we, or what Iwill say, is I have noticed in
(13:58):
previous conversations we havehad, I believe, that a lot of
the songs have been written froma perspective of a specific,
maybe, type of person, or evenmen, and because of and that's
no, no digs, you know, but wekind of sound like it.
(14:24):
However, the divine feminine isabsolutely necessary and because
that has been missing from alot of this music, you don't
have the man crying no more onsongs.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
That is true.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
You don't have that no more, because the women are
not all the ones in the studioassisting writing these songs.
You know Right, because thewomen are not all the ones in
the studio assisting writingthese songs.
You know, and it's necessary inorder for that emotion and that
feeling to be there.
And, in my humble opinion, Ithink that you have a lot of
people that are in the industrythat, of course, should be there
(15:01):
, and there are some that shouldnot and some of those that
should not be in the industry.
There are a lot of people thatcome from the streets, which I
respect and understand, and ifthat's what you're supposed to
be doing with music, then you gofor it.
But some people are in it justto make a quick dollar.
They're able to, they know howto flip a little bit to get a
little bit more, and that's whatthey're doing with the music.
(15:21):
So they're not taking the timethat's necessary to actually
cultivate a song and piece ittogether and sit with it,
because they're too busy makinghits.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
We don't need hits.
We need something that's goingto be long lasting, and that's
what we've been trying to do now.
That's super dope.
I love the way you broke thatdown, like like when you said
like men don't cry and and offersongs anymore.
I mean, if they do cry, they'recrying because of their guys,
you know, because they thinkingabout losing, and no, no, diddy
(15:56):
no shade all tea right, no shade.
You know, I just think that it'sdifferent times, it's different
times and I think for me, Idefinitely appreciate those
songs that can evoke if I'musing that word correctly can
evoke the emotions where youreally have to think, where it
(16:17):
kind of makes you vulnerable.
You know what I'm saying.
You just can't be out here inyour car just crying all the
goddamn time, but you know, whatI'm saying can't be out here
just in your car just crying allthe goddamn time.
But you know I'm saying, butit's cool to have you know
saying, to have some type offeelings, to get in touch with
it.
You know I'm saying so, Idefinitely.
I like the way you broke thatdown yeah um, can, can y'all
(16:38):
speak on the risk of gettinginto a new relationship and I
want to go off this line that Ithat I heard in the song not
knowing what's to come from therelationship.
Can you really speak about therisk of getting into a new
relationship and you don't knowwhat the fuck gonna happen?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
it's definitely like um, it's scary, which is the
premise of the song.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Like it's scary, which is the premise of the song
.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
It's scary because, especially when you're coming
from a hurt past and then you'relike, I really like this person
, but also I don't want to getmy feelings hurt again.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I don't want to bust new car windows.
Yeah right, I don't want nobodyto take care of me.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Right, exactly, so it definitely.
And with the full project we'redoing.
A lot of the songs kind oftouch on like the scariness of
like jumping into something new,yeah, and being old and kind of
.
I just had this conversationthe other day with somebody Like
it's relinquishing control overthe and understanding that
(17:48):
you're gonna get hurt.
it's not, it may not beintentional it's not appealing
to look at it that way I know,right, right, it's scary, right
because and that's what makes itscary, because you'd be like,
oh, but I don't want, but it'slike, but when you open your
heart up to be invulnerable,that just it happens.
And they don't even gotta beintentional, right, you're gonna
(18:09):
hurt each other unintentionally.
Um and the the, the beauty ofit is growing or learning from a
previous from, you know, fromyour previous things, instead of
leaning on or leaning into howmuch it hurts.
In the past, there werebeautiful moments that were
there too.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Right and.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I know that's what makes it scary.
Jumping into something new isbecause all we keep seeing is
how it went wrong and it's likebut wait, there was.
You know.
Remember the cuddles and thewalks and you know, places and
the long talk like that stuff.
Like if we focus, um, I think ifyou focus more on that stuff,
(18:48):
then it it doesn't have to be asscary, because then you know
what that feels like and thenyou also know when it's time to
move, because you've done thisbefore, so you also you don't
have to hurt yourself again.
You know, okay, this is nolonger feeling good, so it's
time for me to move on Right Toexit.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
It's time for me to go.
It's time for me to goRespectfully.
It's time for me to go.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Respectfully.
It's time for me to go.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Or it's time for you to go, that's right y'all.
Yeah, right, yeah, respectfully, get your shit and you gotta go
, right, okay.
So you also have a line in thesong that says be everything I
need.
I just need to be sure, like,what would that process look
(19:37):
like individually for y'all Liketo really be sure, what is some
like, yeah, how would that look?
What would make you confident?
Like, ok, cool, I can do this,I'm willing to do this.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I don't think that.
I don't think anyone knows forsure ever.
I think to a certain degree youhave an understanding.
But, as she said, when you're aperson that has experienced
hurt and disappointment, I thinkeveryone in the back of their
mind has that question on ifit's going to work.
(20:17):
But I also believe that that iswhen faith comes in.
That is when faith comes in,and one thing that my mom has
always mentioned or alwaystaught me, is you always go the
extra mile and do the best andyou give your.
All.
That way, in the eventsomething doesn't work out, you
can never say, oh, there wassomething I could have done
(20:39):
better.
You did your part.
If you weren't enough for thatperson, then that's their
problem.
That has nothing to do with you.
Right?
I like that.
Yeah, for me too.
Consistency I do try to payattention to how consistent you
are before making a leap.
(20:59):
Again.
That sometimes changes Right,like you get into the
relationship and then all thatgoes out the window.
That sometimes changes right,like you get into the
relationship and then all thatgoes out the window.
Sometimes that happens.
But I try to pay attention toconsistency and more so.
I know I'm sure when I'm ready.
It ain't got nothing to do withother person.
I need to make sure I'mmentally, spiritually okay
before entering something new.
(21:21):
So when I'm in a place whereI'm like, okay, I'm ready to try
this again, I'm ready to let goof the pain, you know, into the
joy, right, and lean into howI'm ready for that.
So I'm going to now I'm sureright.
Does that make sense?
Like I'm sure?
Speaker 1 (21:35):
what I'm going to do with them.
Yeah, I think it definitelymakes sense.
And for me, I feel like theolder I get, things are starting
to look different.
You know I'm saying like Ithink the expectations kind of
change.
You know what I'm saying, likeespecially for a man.
So I think the myth sometimes,like we're just always about the
(21:58):
physical portion of it, right.
But for me, like the older youget, you start start to think
like, well, what happens, how doyou feel after that shit is
done?
You know saying like, do Ireally want you to leave
immediately, or am I cool withyou staying around for a couple
of more hours?
You see what I'm saying.
(22:19):
So, like I think that's thepart like when you start to say
like am I ready to like reallybe with somebody, to have
somebody like really occupy myspace?
You see what I'm saying becauseI think that's huge.
You know what I'm sayingbecause you know sex only lasts
so long.
You know what I'm saying.
You can, you can take the honey, pack, all that shit, all you
(22:39):
want.
So you know what I'm saying.
Eventually shit dies down.
Eventually shit dies down, andthen you gotta sit with that
motherfucker you see what I'msaying and we gotta occupy each
other's space.
So it's kind of like how doesthat look?
You see what I'm saying.
So when I listened to the song Ithought about all that.
(23:01):
I was like man, just thethought of reentering the
potential to possibly be excitedand stimulated or possibly be
hurt.
You know what I'm saying.
That's why I really dig thesong.
I think it's super dope.
(23:21):
Who did the production?
I'm sorry, I want to make sureI got his super dope.
Who did the production?
Well D?
I'm sorry, I want to make sureI got his name right.
Who did the production on it?
Speaker 2 (23:30):
The music was.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
D-Loud.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
D-Loud D-Loud, d-loud , d-loud.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Okay, cool.
Have you ever seen?
Well, have you ever seen ahealthy relationship?
No, I think that's perspective,but yeah, I love to ask that
(23:54):
question because I love to seethe response from different
genders, different cultures.
You see what I'm saying.
Sometimes people ask well, whatdo you mean?
You know what I'm'm saying?
What's the characteristics?
Well, you know, but why wouldyou say?
Why would you say yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
because, again, I think it's perspective.
It's if it's healthy.
It's healthy because it's whatI would find healthy or what I
would consider like, oh, I wantsomething like this, this would
be cute, um, that's why it'swell.
So it's not what I considerhealthy, may not be what janae
or you consider healthy, butit's prospectively.
I thought I think it's ahealthy relationship.
(24:36):
I've seen some that I considerhealthy and what's healthy to
you um, communication is areally big one, um, especially
when times are hard.
Um, and learning how tomaneuver through those hard
times, um and um.
Reciprocity is a big thing too,in a real and, to me, for a
(24:59):
healthy relationship.
Um, watching, you know, it'snot one person giving more than
the other.
Like I said, the communicate.
Those are the main things forme, communication and
reciprocity.
That makes it, to me, makes arelationship look healthy.
It was what I would consider ahealthy relationship, ok.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Janay, what about you ?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I would.
I would agree with some of thethings that she stated.
I would also like to addcomprehension, um, because just
because communication ishappening in a relationship
doesn't mean the other personunderstands what you're saying,
correct, and that is a reallybig problem.
(25:47):
Just because you can read don'tmean you understand what you
read, you know.
So I think that is, for me, isnumber one.
And then I would also sayemotional maturity on both ends,
because you all can haveconversations and really get
(26:10):
into it or you all be at areally good space, but that,
that emotional maturity, is what, in my opinion, is going to
really, to a certain degree, befoundational for a relationship.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, somebody gotto talk the other one down,
(26:33):
somebody got to talk the otherone down.
You know it can't be all the wayback, Because it's going to
happen.
You're not going to be eachother's piece all the time, Like
really.
It's going to happen.
And when it does happen, youknow it does take, like you said
, emotional maturity for atleast one of y'all to be like,
(26:54):
hey, let's bring this back,let's have, let's figure out
another way to, let's have aconversation, let's approach
this differently, let's figureout what the problem is.
Right.
Both of us, both need it, likeyou said, because if that
emotional maturity is not there,you can tell me you did XYZ,
(27:15):
and if I'm not in a space that Iam mature, we really now I'm
getting back because I'm goingto get my lick back.
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (27:26):
come on man, talk about the pettiness.
Get my leg back.
You know what I'm saying.
Come on man, talk about thepettiness.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yeah, when y'all are, y'all are both there in that
space and recognize that this iswhy we're together and we want
to do this and you both desireto make, want to make it work,
then then, then I think, oh yeah, I for sure think both people
need emotional maturity.
I also know, just realistically, as many years of therapy and
(27:55):
spiritual counseling, everythingI've had, I still have my
moments.
So that's why we both need tohave it, because if I fall off
the horse and I can't bringmyself down, you know, I may
need you to remind me.
Hey, we're not doing that,you're right, let me bring
myself down.
I may need you to remind me hey, we're not doing that, you're
right.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
I think that's a very good point.
Then I think what Janay saidabout the comprehension piece
you hear what I'm saying, butyou don't really understand what
I'm saying.
It's easy to nod your head andbe like I heard you.
You know what I'm saying,because it's easy to nod your
head and be like right, right,like you heard me, but it's like
but did you really hear me?
(28:33):
You know what I'm saying.
So I think that part is like, Ithink that part is huge in this
.
And as far as the emotionalmaturity, I think there's a lack
of emotional intelligence.
You know what I'm saying?
And I think when you have that,there's the potential for
things to get blown out ofproportion.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Like it's harder for me to take your criticism, you
know, right.
So now my guards are like up,they're like super flared up,
and no matter what you say to me, it's going to come off as
defensive yeah, it's hard, yeah,and be named to communicate too
.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Like today's not a good day, you know.
Like we don't?
you don't gotta be.
A thing like today is I've beenhaving an interesting day, okay
, good, the thanks for lettingme know, so we can you know how
to move, know how to moveforward in this.
We're not going to do thatwhole I'm fine, I'm fine,
everything's well.
It's not because now you won'tsee what's going on, you know.
So I think that's important,that's all of that.
(29:37):
It's like to the what janaesaying all that.
That's a healthy relationship.
How I see, how I see it anymoreokay, okay.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
I want to talk about the video about the speed dating
.
I thought it was hilarious.
How did that come about?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
We were having a group discussion me, janae and D
Louse about how we want to doit.
Louse said something about youknow, cuffing season approach.
I'm saying that's true, um, andwe were.
So we were trying to figure outwhat to do to market it.
And so then I was sitting thereI think I was high, and then I
was like, oh, okay, we could doa, we could do a speed dating
(30:24):
series.
Um, one of my homies, biancaShaw, she released a project
called Get a Job and so she didlike a little series where she
worked with corporate Her andcorporate did a bunch of random
jobs.
It was like she was doingOnlyFans in one video, another
video.
She was driving Lyft anothervideo.
It was that and I thought thatwas so creative.
(30:45):
So I was like, okay, what if wedid a Speed Dane series and it
leads up to y'all meeting, right, but what it is is y'all often
have some interesting dates,like it's going to be some
really wild characters thaty'all meet, and I called my
homie Derek Dow, who directedand wrote the script for
(31:06):
everything, and then my otherhomie, dami, who's the DP and
editor of everything, and hadthem come together and create
the Quickspark.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Speed Dating Series.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Can either one of you speak to a very memorable date
that you either chose toremember or try your hardest to
forget.
Wait, okay, I'll go first,because I know what Tan's going
to be and hers is way funnier.
So a date that I went on, Ihope.
(31:56):
If this person ever sees thisvideo, I hope they're not
offended, but this is true.
So I went on a date with thisguy who had been wanting to go
on a date with me and he don'tget me wrong he was really sweet
, he was really handsome, but healso wasn't necessarily my type
.
But I was giving him a shot.
(32:17):
He, one of his family members,had a wedding and he asked me if
I would go and I was like, yeah, I'd love to go to a wedding
with you.
And I was dressed up real cute.
You know, I'm put together and Idon't know if in Chicago y'all
(32:37):
had a.
It was the store out here inGary called Tom Maleska's and
they had these granddaddywalking suits.
They was like linen walkingsuits with these crazy patterns.
I'm a zoot suit-ish, you knowwhat I'm saying.
He came to pick me up.
(33:01):
I already gave him a passbecause I was not feeling that
outfit.
It was like the laughing stalkof the area if some young person
went in there and bought it andI was like, okay, I'm gonna
give him a shot.
And then it was for me.
It's the small things that bereally turning me off, y'all.
I looked at his uh, he had the,the suit on, but under he had,
(33:28):
instead of a white beater on, hehad some T-shirt, some screen
T-shirt that he turned insideout.
And I know this sounds reallybad y'all, but I was like you
didn't need that T-shirt on, bro, you could have just went naked
.
Why do you?
have this on and it just reallyturned me off because I already
(33:50):
wasn't really feeling it.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
And it kind of made up, so it really didn't take
much.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
It didn't take much, and it's crazy, but you know, in
all honesty, all of the guysthat I have ever dated, whether
we were in a full-blownrelationship with one another or
it was not.
I don't have nothing bad to sayabout the men that I've dated
in my lifetime.
They don't get me wrong, theythey've.
They gave me some doozies youknow, but I also recognize that
(34:17):
we were all at different placesand times in life and you
reacted the way that you did.
Oh yeah, but go ahead, tan.
What's my most interesting?
Well, the only one is the morerecent one, because I had to,
anyway.
So I went, I was on the datingapp and I met this person.
(34:38):
He was really cool.
We had a really greatconversation, very handsome.
We were supposed to go on adate.
He tells me, prior to the date,in advance, that he had jaw
replacement surgery.
I said interesting, because Icouldn't tell.
And that's all he really saidwas I had jaw replacement
surgery because he had, um,something happened in his
(34:59):
whatever.
Oh, they, he said they put apiece of his hip in his lower
left side of his jaw and I waslike, oh, I hope this man don't
look like Kanye after theaccident.
And I was like, okay, okay,okay, he's gonna be fine.
Like then, like because me andmy cousin went through his
pictures to try to see if we cansee is this before or after his
(35:19):
surgery?
let's, we was trying to figurethat out and then I met up with
him and I was like, okay, helooks decent.
And then we were talking and Icould tell something because he
would cover up his mouth a lot,and then he laughed like big and
I realized the whole entirebottom left half of his mouth
(35:39):
had no teeth.
It was just completely no teethdown here.
And I was like, oh, oh shit, Iguess that makes sense because
there's no teeth in the hip bone, right?
So I guess that makes sense.
He said that, um, the firsttime they gave him a replacement
jaw from someone else orsomething and his body wouldn't
(36:00):
take it.
So then they put the hip bonethere and then so they're trying
to see if his body would takethe hip bone, I guess, before
they add the teeth.
I don't know, um, but I love it.
It was interesting and I triedto be cool because I'm like he's
cool tan, you know, don't be soshallow, even though in my head
I'm like I just can't demand noteeth but.
(36:21):
I tried to be cool.
You know we text a little bit,just it.
But I knew I, I was like I Idon't see myself being able to
be attracted to him.
But, um, he invited me over tohis house like a couple days
later and I was like, because helived around the corner, I live
far and I was like, okay, wecan at least be friends.
Maybe it's good to have a friendyou can kick it with and I went
out this house in no shade tolow income housing, because
(36:44):
that's not the issue I pulled upup.
It was the low-income housing.
It said it on the marquee thisis low-income housing.
I go into the lobby, yeah, onthe low-income housing.
And then I go into the lobby tothe elevator and there's a big
pile of dog shit and I just waslike you got to be kidding me
(37:07):
and I was staring at it and thevoice in my head was like you
got to be kidding me and I wasstaring at it.
And then a voice in my head waslike Tan, turn around.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
I'm like don't be like that.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
I was like don't be like that, because you know,
this is just an apartment, right?
This ain't his apartment, thisis the apartment building.
And so I remember going up intohis apartment.
He had a studio apartment.
I went in there and I rememberthinking oh no, especially that
on short, and I was like, ohokay, and his couch was like
(37:35):
this multi-colored couch whereit was like stains and had an
odor.
He had a cat and the cat hairwas everywhere and the cat was
all over what kept.
It was like the cat was allover me.
So then the fur was all over meand then he tried to like touch
me or something and because Ididn't want to do anything with
him, especially not in thisdisgusting apartment like an
(37:57):
attitude and sat in the becauseagainst the studio.
So his bed was next to thecouch and he sat on his bed away
from me because he was madabout it.
I went to the bathroom and hisbathroom had beard hair stuck on
the wall.
It was disgusting.
I said, okay, I got to get upout of here.
Then I just was like no, thisis fine, I'm going.
I blocked him as soon as I gotto the car.
(38:18):
I was like I'm not doing this,no more.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Look, all right, shit , I mean mean gotta step your
game up.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
At least make sure your crib clean, huh minimum.
I even asked him.
I said you know that this paldog shit?
He said yeah, that's been theresince this morning.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
I said oh okay, oh oh , nobody, nobody wanted to get
that.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Huh, nobody, nobody felt like they should pick it up
.
Everybody just said it it ain'tmy problem, it's not my dog.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Exactly.
Okay, I got a serious questionright.
So, since we're talking aboutdating, you know the risk of
hopping into relationships withpeople.
So here's the situation youhave somebody that you are
physically attracted to, likethey get you.
(39:11):
You know what I'm saying.
When you see them, you like,yeah, you get it.
You know, when you talk to them, the conversations are
stimulating conversations andthey treat you right.
So you're thinking like, ok,cool, I can move forward with
this person, right.
But then you find out he abucket boy.
Like he plays buckets.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Literal bucket boy Okay.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Right he a bucket boy .
Do you move forward with it?
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Does he have a job outside of playing the buckets,
or is that?
Speaker 1 (39:43):
all no, but he make decent money off the buckets.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Well, we bucketing together baby kids or is that
all?
No, but he make decent moneyoff the buckets.
Well, we bucketing together.
Baby, can you pay his billswith this, okay?
Speaker 1 (39:56):
I'm gonna say, yep, he, he found a very decent
intersection and he can, hecould pay.
Would you still be with him?
Speaker 2 (40:07):
I would.
I would.
However, this is with theintention of him not playing the
buckets forever.
Yeah, and what I mean by that?
Okay is your dream.
Well, unless you want to justbe the best bucket boy in the
(40:28):
world, then what are we doing toget you there?
You know what I'm saying.
But if there is more potentialfor you and this women tend to
see potential in me and try tofix things, men and try to fix
(40:52):
things but if there is realpotential, that is there and I
see that you are actually doingwhat you need to do in order to
be bigger than what you are,then I will do what I can to
assist you with getting to yournext.
But if you are just being thebucket boy, because you're okay
with just being that and notbeing the best at it, then I'm
not your girl okay, I like that.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
I like that honest answer.
Yeah, what about you tend tolive?
Speaker 2 (41:19):
um, some probably more so similar.
I'm learning to stay out ofstuff, so I've learned to don't
give your gift or power away soquickly.
So, like Janae said, if this,if you're aspiring to something,
I know what I want for my lifeand how I envision it looking.
So, with that being said, ifyou aspire for something more
(41:43):
cool, we can work together.
Like she said, you know, Ithink that women women as when
we do typically come in and tryto help, you know, push to the
next level.
But I'm only doing that if youwant that.
If that's not what you want,then I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Um, we can be friends okay, um shifting gears, who
are some of you?
Uh, you, who are some of y'allmusical influences.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Ooh For me.
I would say the Emotions.
I would say Big Crit, I wouldsay Victoria Monet, I would say
(42:35):
any.
I went to a performing artsschool so we learned a lot of
Negro spiritual music and one ofthe people that I fell in love
with was Moses Hogan.
He was an arranger.
Those would be off top thepeople, and Beyonce, of course.
Those would be the influencesfor me for sure.
(42:56):
Okay, mine are a lot of oldschool soulful artists.
My mama listened to a lot ofGladys Knight.
Gladys Knight is one of myall-time favorites.
I feel like people sleep onGladys um.
But what I love about Gladysand her music is how emotionally
(43:17):
connected her songs like she.
It is basically um, from thebackground arrangements to like
like.
One of my favorite songs ofhers is, I feel, a song in my
heart again because of thechanges in the song, how it gets
real dramatic at one point andthen when it gets to the hook
and she's happy, the musicchanges like.
That's like.
(43:37):
I think people sleep on gladysknight and how phenomenal she is
.
But gladys knight, uh.
Reetha franklin, um.
I love artists who JasmineSullivan, any people who put up
a like.
It's not just a song, it's anexperience.
That's what I like aboutKendrick Lamar, like it's not
just a song, it's an experience.
(43:58):
So people who createexperiences in music are the
ones are, and it doesn't evenmatter the genre.
Those are like my top favorites.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
That's dope, that's dope, that's dope.
I'm a big fan of Big KRIT anddefinitely Jasmine Sutherland.
I think she's an awesomesongwriter.
Yeah, definitely, definitely.
Before we end this, I want toplay a game real quick and it's
called 4 for 4, right?
So basically, I give you a wordor a phrase and you respond
(44:40):
with four words.
You can only respond with fourwords, okay, all right.
So, yeah, this take a lot ofcounting, you know, sometimes,
sometimes people just blur out,out and I be like nigga, that
was eight words, you know whatI'm saying a piece or like four
words all together four words.
I'm going to give Jhene one, youone, alright, so I'm going to
go with you first, jhene no, no,no.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
I need the rules again.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
I need the rules again if you can only respond,
I'm going to give you either aword or a phrase, and you can
only respond with four words gotit let's just say um, so let's
say, if the word was DonaldTrump, I would probably say we
(45:24):
are fucked up.
Okay, got it.
Got it, alright, what I'msaying.
Yeah, so I'm going to go withyou first, jenae, okay.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Bad dates.
Bad dates.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
Everybody has them.
Oh, you broke up.
Everybody, huh, everybody hasthem.
Yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
Oh, you broke up.
Everybody huh Every time.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Yeah, okay, Works for me Works for me, tend to live.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Low income housing.
Pay attention to signs.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
There we go, there we go, there we go, janae
Summertime.
Summertime, hmm, always needthe lake oh, that's nice, that's
(46:46):
nice, uh, tendalia heartbreak alearning experience for all are
you combining for all?
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Yep, she said what she said, okay.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
I'm not judging.
I'm not judging at all.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
We listen and we don't judge.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
I feel you on that.
I feel you on that.
I feel you on that.
Janae, dirty socks.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
Put them in Washing machine, combined it again
Combined it.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Washer machine Commander again Commander.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Put him in washer.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
Put him in washer.
There you go, Julia.
Last one Untitled.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Uncertainty for the future Wow.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Oh, I like that.
I like that.
I appreciate y'all playing itand I also appreciate y'all Um,
give me all time, Cause I alwaystell people time is way more
important.
It's way more valuable I don'tknow important, but it's way
more valuable than money.
You know what I'm saying.
You can get money back.
Can't get time back at all.
(48:24):
You know what I'm saying.
So, with that being said, letpeople know where they can find
y'all at what y'all got comingup performances, Instagram pages
, Facebook pages, TikTok, allthat.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
Okay.
Well, first of all, I want tosay thank you for having us.
We sincerely appreciate thisbecause your time is valuable as
well.
All right, thank you, but whatwe have coming up?
We have been releasingdifferent episodes to the Quick
Sparks.
I actually just released thesecond episode on my page this
(49:00):
evening or earlier today, andthey can find that at janae
jones sings on all platformsokay, hold on for one second.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
Make sure I spell this right.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
That ain't right.
Oh no, who's John?
John David Graham.
Yes, that is correct.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
There you go, Tenderly.
What about you Same?
Speaker 2 (49:42):
difference.
We, that is correct.
There you go.
Okay, tenderly, what about you?
Same difference we're releasingthe series.
The song is out.
I'll be performing at CityWinery on January 21st.
It's a rarity, it's a very rareexperience.
I don't really perform, but,yeah, I'll be performing at City
Winer on January 21st.
(50:03):
I got on top of this projectI'm doing with Janae.
I got several other artists whoare releasing projects or songs
that I've written in thisupcoming year.
That will be coming out as well, and you can find me either at
Sessions with Tandalea or atMaster Plan 10.
Everything is on one of thosetwo pages.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
I want to make sure I got this right.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
Yes Sessions with Tandalea Yep, you got the name
right.
I'm so glad you know and I'mglad you remember, because
typically people don't rememberhow to pronounce it.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
I'm doing it again, so I'm still impressed, you know
and you know what, give a madshout out to CPS education.
God damn it.
You know what I'm saying.
They did something right.
They did something right.
Yeah, they did something right,yeah.
Once again, I want to thanky'all for y'all time and really
thank y'all for y'all talent.
The song is dope.
I'm saying that with allsincerity.
(51:10):
You know the person that I letlisten to it.
She like Alright, alright.
I definitely appreciate the songand I always like to hear good
music.
You know what I'm saying.
(51:31):
And for me, having anopportunity to say that I was
able to sit down and talk withthese wonderful individuals, you
know what I'm saying.
It's a blessing for me.
I love it.
You know what I'm saying.
So I appreciate y'all time,y'all talent, and the creators
are needed, y'all the ones thatkeep people sane, and I
(51:55):
definitely agree with what yousaid earlier about the music
that's needed that makemotherfuckers want to cry.
You know what I'm saying.
We can't be fighting all thegoddamn time.
You know what I'm saying.
You know.
Cry sometimes, nigga.
You know.
Please Cry your cotton.
You know what I'm saying, butthere's nothing wrong with it.
And yo, if y'all got anythingthat's coming up, you know what
(52:17):
I'm saying hit me up.
I'll definitely promote it onthe platform I'm going to be
seeing y'all again.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
Thank you so much for having us.
Thank you for platforms likethis that give us an opportunity
to share and talk about ourmusic.
As you know, especially being acreative and especially
independent artist, there's nota lot of platforms that give us
that opportunity.
Speaker 1 (52:41):
Thank you, no problem , you're very welcome.
You're very welcome.
Keep making that dope shit,thank you, and watch out for the
dog shit in the apartment.
Watch me go Shout out to allthe dudes out there.
If y'all having somebody overclean up the fucking apartment,
clean, y'all having somebodyover clean up the fucking
(53:01):
apartment, clean the house atleast get some plug hands, my
nigga they go a long way forreal.
Y'all be cool and stay blessedand much success to y'all in the
future.
Real talk, no problem later.
Peace.
Future real talk, thank you, noproblem later, peace.
(53:21):
Yo, that was dope, y'all.
That was dope.
Shout out to my guests uh,coming through kicking it with
me y'all.
Make sure y'all, y'all staytuned, check them out with
everything they got going on thesong.
Hey, when I say the songUntitled is dope, it's dope,
(53:42):
it's dope as hell, I mean that.
So I'm going to leave y'allwith this man.
I don't know, I don't know whoneed to hear this, but live in
the moment.
Live in the moment and paceyourself.
Live in the moment.
Live in the moment and paceyourself.
(54:03):
Try not to overthink and justenjoy what's in front of you for
real Because, like I said, timeis valuable.
You don't want to waste it, soenjoy it.
Don't overthink, pace yourself.
It's a lot of beautiful stuffout there.
There's a lot of beautifulminor things out there that you
can experience and have awonderful day.
(54:26):
Always remember y'all.
The dots will connect, theywill connect.
You got to believe that.
Anyway, I want to give a madshout out to the family Joey,
bryce, jalen, smokedgy Dog, mama, that's the cat.
That's my cat.
Y'all Don't be fronting on me.
I got a fucking cat and hername is Mama.
(54:48):
Also, leave y'all with makefans, not followers.
Followers will get you clout.
Fans will get you work.
Trust the process.
Shout out to my man, deck of Dprocess.
Shout out to my man, deck ofDurs.
Shout out to my man, bub G.
Shout out to B Carrington.
Shout out to my girl, dee DeeLicious.
Shout out to the Pig Pockets.
(55:09):
God damn it.
It's some major shit coming up.
Y'all and shameless, plug y'all.
Make sure y'all check out mynew single y'all that Auntie's
Joint.
It's on all streaming platforms.
It's called that Auntie's Joint.
Y'all.
Make sure y'all go check it out.
And make sure y'all check outthe podcast, the Shits Podcast,
on all streaming platformsSpotify, apple Podcast, anywhere
(55:34):
you get your podcasts at we onthere, god damn it.
So make sure y'all check it outand I will see y'all around.
Man, thank y'all for tuning in,thank y'all for supporting and
shout out to my guests tandaleah and janae jones had a dope
time, dope conversation, andI'll let y'all peace.
(55:58):
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,hey.
Yo, yo, what up, what up, what up y'all.
It's your boy, monson Starat.
It's the Shits Podcast, wherewe're either shooting the shit,
starting some shit or picking upwhat's left off.
I'm your host, monson Starat,the coolest cat you heard thus
far, aka DJ Booty Rubber, likeno other.
If you don't believe me, man,go ask your mother and man check
(00:40):
it out this week, tell y'alleverybody that come on.
The podcast is special and itain't like slow special.
You know cheese bus back of thebus.
Special.
You know what I'm saying.
This is special, special, buteverybody is special.
But anyway, this week I havethe pleasure of talking to two
phenomenal vocalists who have adope song.
(01:02):
Like song is dope, it's soulful, I want to say it's seductive.
Damn, it's a lot, it's a lot.
I definitely think it'ssomething y'all should check out
.
Y'all make sure y'all put y'allhands together for the one, the
onlys, because it's two of themJhene Jones and Tendulia.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Thank you, what up?
How y'all feeling I'm good.
How are?
Speaker 1 (01:30):
you.
Good, I can't complain.
I can't complain, not at all,not at all.
Before I go any further, I dowant to give some shouts out to
anybody out there that feel likethey need counseling or some
type of therapy.
It's a number you can call.
So the number is 708-524-2582.
(01:52):
So you can call the number 24-7.
If you just feel like you needsomebody to talk, to call the
number, because I feel likemental health is very important
and sometimes, like in ourcommunity, in the black
community, you know, we try tobe so shy about it or prideful.
You know what I'm saying, butsometimes you can be fucked up.
Y'all need somebody to talk to.
So if you need somebody to talkto, call that number y'all
straight up.
Also, mad shout outs to GNMCclothing dope clothing hoodies,
(02:19):
hats, t-shirts, sweats.
Make sure y'all check them out.
Google it, g n, m, c clothingbram.
You can also find them on uminstagram.
Yeah, on instagram, um, andjust hit them up.
So, with that being said, tandaleah and janae jones all right,
(02:39):
I'll always like to do acheck-in with our guests.
So, since y'all are thephenomenal guests this week, how
y'all week?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
ma'am, I've had a pretty good week, mr Booty
Rubber.
It's been a good week.
It's been a good week.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
It's been a good week , all right.
So I know y'all artists becauseI heard y'all work.
When I ask this question, Ithink people think about it in a
different way.
When I ask you what you'reworking on, I don't mean what
you're working on in the studio.
I mean what you're working onwith yourself emotionally and
(03:21):
mentally, what y'all working onthis week.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Okay, should I go first?
Sure, yeah, go ahead.
Okay, what I have been workingon this week and it's
interesting that you say that,because either type of
conversations- Tenderly and Ihave all the time.
One of the things that I amworking on is making sure that I
am being vocal and showing upfor myself a hundred percent.
(03:48):
I don't care who don't like it.
I'm going to be respectful andsaying what I need to say, but I
absolutely placing boundariesand it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I like to hear that.
I mean like, I think it's, Ithink it's necessary.
Everybody needs to have theirboundaries.
I like the fact that you saidit respectfully.
I'm not trying to take anythingaway from you, but this is how
I roll.
If you can't honor that, thenrespectfully get the fuck on
(04:21):
that's real this week.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I am working on keeping it together.
That's what I'm working on.
I had to clean up, get my spacetogether so I can get my mind
together, so I can just betogether.
Basically, that's what's up.
That's what's up.
Yeah, that's what's up?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I appreciate that.
I appreciate that.
So my first question is where?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
y'all from.
I'm from Chicago, okay.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
What's that?
What's that Today is from Gary.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Okay, okay, that's what's up.
I was looking at the background.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I'm like they don't look like Gary, but I know
that's the thing Wait, wait,wait, not too much now Not too
much, it's all good, it's allgood.
How did y'all get startedperforming and creating music?
Well, a few well, I don't wantto say a few quite a few years
(05:27):
ago at this point, I actuallymet Tan at one of our mutual
friends.
At her performance she sangsomewhere and I was asked to do
background vocals for her, and Idid, and I saw somebody come
out of the crowd and it was Tan,and she walked up to me and
said hey, my name is Tan.
(05:48):
I'm sessions with Tan and Leahand and we hit it off from there
and we have been friends eversince and it's been a pleasure
making music with her.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
That's dope.
Yeah, I can hear the strings inthe background, the music
playing in the background.
I'm like awesome Individually.
Can y'all remember y'all firststudio session.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yes, yes, I can.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
It was very interesting.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yes, I can, it was.
Oh, it was very interesting, um, cause it was my vocal director
from high school.
She ended up being my vocalcoach and one of my first
sessions it was more so trackingwas with her and her partner
and it got real ugly cause henever I had to pay all his money
and he never gave me the beatthat he was making and it became
a whole ordeal.
But it wasn't a good experiencenot been a great experience,
but that was more of a trackingsession and, uh, my actual first
studio session.
I was just really nervous.
Okay it was fun.
I remember being really, really,really, really nervous when I
actually was recording.
(07:07):
I'm like oh, this is different.
That was a long, that was likein 2011.
Yeah, like 2011.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
So what do you find yourself doing differently now
compared to that first session?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Well one.
I have a lot more resources, soI don't have to be like let me
pay you and then chase you downfor my beat.
I don't got to do that anymore.
So there's that.
So that's gone.
I'm not as nervous, more sobecause I understand it.
And then now from then to now.
(07:43):
I'm also a recording engineer,so now I also completely
understand the ins and outs ofeverything, because I remember
my first project that I releasedthe mix is awful and I didn't.
I remember being proud of itright at the time and then into
it like, oh, this is not hiddenright, and not knowing why.
(08:04):
And then I had to, you know,took some years, learned how to
do whatever I'm like.
Ok, this is the problem.
Now I know how to keep, I knoweven if I'm not the one
engineering I know how toexplain it.
And now I know what works forme when I'm in the studio, how,
what my order of operation iswith recording and everything.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
So OK, jane, what about you?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
As far as.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Can you remember your first studio session?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
My first studio session was actually for my 16th
birthday.
My mom bought me a studiosession for three of my friends
and myself for my birthday and Irecorded some terrible song
(08:56):
that exists somewhere in theether, yeah.
But, as Tan has stated, it tooka lot of growth, a lot of trial
and error to get to the placethat we are at today, and I
would even like to say that thepandemic really, even though the
(09:19):
pandemic was a very stressfultime for everybody.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Pandemic was a very stressful time for everybody.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
During the pandemic, tan and I we were on the
Internet every single night justgetting it, trying to write
music and send stuff toproducers back and forth to
Atlanta or LA or wherever thecase may be, because we needed
it to be heard.
And that's really how we kindof got on the path of getting
(09:45):
the music to where it is now,because at that time I don't
think Tan had taken any of theengineering sessions or lessons
yet and we were like these songsare amazing, but I don't know
why we're not getting anyplacements like we should.
Something's not right.
And so she took it upon herselfto go and get some lessons, and
after that we've been cookingwith grease.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
That's super dope.
Speaking of such, I want totalk about the song titled
Untitled.
Yes, how did that come about?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
did that come about?
I had been working with theother artists on the song
D-Lowes.
We met through Rex Hardy.
We met through Rex Hardybecause they were recording
something together.
I had been working on thingswith D-Lowes.
I liked the music he was doing.
I remember telling Jhene and Iwas like I think y'all should
(10:44):
work together.
I think y'all will be be really, really, I think y'all voices
will blend.
Well, I think y'all got asimilar um somewhat vibe kind of
or appreciation for music.
Um, so I set up, I told Lyle'sthe same thing and I set up a
time for them to come togetherand then we met up in the studio
um, I think it's Blockhousestudios, I think that's the name
(11:06):
of it.
We went over there and westarted writing it.
We were, we were all tired.
I remember that.
I remember all of us had had along day today.
I think we met up at seven.
I think we were in the studiotill about three writing this
song.
um, just writing it, justgetting like the the bones done,
like in the you know um mumblesand then lyrics and like we, we
(11:30):
was like we're not leaving outhere, till this song is done
okay yeah, and it's interestingbecause, um, when we got there,
we first of all we were eatingokay, because I need some food
before I do anything but whilewe were in there eating, liles
(11:50):
was playing a track in thebackground Okay, and it was
sounding really good and Tam waslike I'm going to go back here
and see what it is that he'smessing around with and,
surprisingly, this was a trackthat so many people had passed
up on and said that they didn'tlike it, and we immediately knew
, like this is what we need tobe working on this is it.
(12:11):
This is it, and as soon as we,as soon as he turned the
microphone on, we got in there,like she said, and I just threw
some mumbles in there.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
And now we have Untitled.
So I mean like um, I was justplanning for a friend of mine
and she was like that's likesuper sexy, you know.
I'm saying I was like thank you.
So I appreciate y'all thoughtson the current state of
(12:52):
songwriting.
What do you think is?
Do you think it has progressed?
Do you think it's in arecession?
I mean like I'll let y'all saythat because y'all are
songwriters.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Would you like for me to answer this first or you,
fran, go ahead.
As I have stated, since we'vebeen on this, call Monsoon for
the 13 minutes and 17 seconds.
These are the type ofconversations that we have all
the time, and what I mean bythat is, first of all, I respect
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all of the singers, songwritersthat are out there, because it
is.
It is not necessary, it is aneasy thing because it is a gift
that is given to you, but whenit is not respected, that can
put you in a really messed upplace.
However, what we, or what Iwill say, is I have noticed in
(13:58):
previous conversations we havehad, I believe, that a lot of
the songs have been written froma perspective of a specific,
maybe, type of person, or evenmen, and because of and that's
no, no digs, you know, but wekind of sound like it.
(14:24):
However, the divine feminine isabsolutely necessary and because
that has been missing from alot of this music, you don't
have the man crying no more onsongs.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
That is true.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
You don't have that no more, because the women are
not all the ones in the studioassisting writing these songs.
You know Right, because thewomen are not all the ones in
the studio assisting writingthese songs.
You know, and it's necessary inorder for that emotion and that
feeling to be there.
And, in my humble opinion, Ithink that you have a lot of
people that are in the industrythat, of course, should be there
(15:01):
, and there are some that shouldnot and some of those that
should not be in the industry.
There are a lot of people thatcome from the streets, which I
respect and understand, and ifthat's what you're supposed to
be doing with music, then you gofor it.
But some people are in it justto make a quick dollar.
They're able to, they know howto flip a little bit to get a
little bit more, and that's whatthey're doing with the music.
(15:21):
So they're not taking the timethat's necessary to actually
cultivate a song and piece ittogether and sit with it,
because they're too busy makinghits.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
We don't need hits.
We need something that's goingto be long lasting, and that's
what we've been trying to do now.
That's super dope.
I love the way you broke thatdown, like like when you said
like men don't cry and and offersongs anymore.
I mean, if they do cry, they'recrying because of their guys,
you know, because they thinkingabout losing, and no, no, diddy
(15:56):
no shade all tea right, no shade.
You know, I just think that it'sdifferent times, it's different
times and I think for me, Idefinitely appreciate those
songs that can evoke if I'musing that word correctly can
evoke the emotions where youreally have to think, where it
(16:17):
kind of makes you vulnerable.
You know what I'm saying.
You just can't be out here inyour car just crying all the
goddamn time, but you know, whatI'm saying can't be out here
just in your car just crying allthe goddamn time.
But you know I'm saying, butit's cool to have you know
saying, to have some type offeelings, to get in touch with
it.
You know I'm saying so, Idefinitely.
I like the way you broke thatdown yeah um, can, can y'all
(16:38):
speak on the risk of gettinginto a new relationship and I
want to go off this line that Ithat I heard in the song not
knowing what's to come from therelationship.
Can you really speak about therisk of getting into a new
relationship and you don't knowwhat the fuck gonna happen?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
it's definitely like um, it's scary, which is the
premise of the song.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Like it's scary, which is the premise of the song
.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
It's scary because, especially when you're coming
from a hurt past and then you'relike, I really like this person
, but also I don't want to getmy feelings hurt again.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I don't want to bust new car windows.
Yeah right, I don't want nobodyto take care of me.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Right, exactly, so it definitely.
And with the full project we'redoing.
A lot of the songs kind oftouch on like the scariness of
like jumping into something new,yeah, and being old and kind of
.
I just had this conversationthe other day with somebody Like
it's relinquishing control overthe and understanding that
(17:48):
you're gonna get hurt.
it's not, it may not beintentional it's not appealing
to look at it that way I know,right, right, it's scary, right
because and that's what makes itscary, because you'd be like,
oh, but I don't want, but it'slike, but when you open your
heart up to be invulnerable,that just it happens.
And they don't even gotta beintentional, right, you're gonna
(18:09):
hurt each other unintentionally.
Um and the the, the beauty ofit is growing or learning from a
previous from, you know, fromyour previous things, instead of
leaning on or leaning into howmuch it hurts.
In the past, there werebeautiful moments that were
there too.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Right and.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I know that's what makes it scary.
Jumping into something new isbecause all we keep seeing is
how it went wrong and it's likebut wait, there was.
You know.
Remember the cuddles and thewalks and you know, places and
the long talk like that stuff.
Like if we focus, um, I think ifyou focus more on that stuff,
(18:48):
then it it doesn't have to be asscary, because then you know
what that feels like and thenyou also know when it's time to
move, because you've done thisbefore, so you also you don't
have to hurt yourself again.
You know, okay, this is nolonger feeling good, so it's
time for me to move on Right Toexit.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
It's time for me to go.
It's time for me to goRespectfully.
It's time for me to go.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Respectfully.
It's time for me to go.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Or it's time for you to go, that's right y'all.
Yeah, right, yeah, respectfully, get your shit and you gotta go
, right, okay.
So you also have a line in thesong that says be everything I
need.
I just need to be sure, like,what would that process look
(19:37):
like individually for y'all Liketo really be sure, what is some
like, yeah, how would that look?
What would make you confident?
Like, ok, cool, I can do this,I'm willing to do this.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I don't think that.
I don't think anyone knows forsure ever.
I think to a certain degree youhave an understanding.
But, as she said, when you're aperson that has experienced
hurt and disappointment, I thinkeveryone in the back of their
mind has that question on ifit's going to work.
(20:17):
But I also believe that that iswhen faith comes in.
That is when faith comes in,and one thing that my mom has
always mentioned or alwaystaught me, is you always go the
extra mile and do the best andyou give your.
All.
That way, in the eventsomething doesn't work out, you
can never say, oh, there wassomething I could have done
(20:39):
better.
You did your part.
If you weren't enough for thatperson, then that's their
problem.
That has nothing to do with you.
Right?
I like that.
Yeah, for me too.
Consistency I do try to payattention to how consistent you
are before making a leap.
(20:59):
Again.
That sometimes changes Right,like you get into the
relationship and then all thatgoes out the window.
That sometimes changes right,like you get into the
relationship and then all thatgoes out the window.
Sometimes that happens.
But I try to pay attention toconsistency and more so.
I know I'm sure when I'm ready.
It ain't got nothing to do withother person.
I need to make sure I'mmentally, spiritually okay
before entering something new.
(21:21):
So when I'm in a place whereI'm like, okay, I'm ready to try
this again, I'm ready to let goof the pain, you know, into the
joy, right, and lean into howI'm ready for that.
So I'm going to now I'm sureright.
Does that make sense?
Like I'm sure?
Speaker 1 (21:35):
what I'm going to do with them.
Yeah, I think it definitelymakes sense.
And for me, I feel like theolder I get, things are starting
to look different.
You know I'm saying like Ithink the expectations kind of
change.
You know what I'm saying, likeespecially for a man.
So I think the myth sometimes,like we're just always about the
(21:58):
physical portion of it, right.
But for me, like the older youget, you start start to think
like, well, what happens, how doyou feel after that shit is
done?
You know saying like, do Ireally want you to leave
immediately, or am I cool withyou staying around for a couple
of more hours?
You see what I'm saying.
(22:19):
So, like I think that's thepart like when you start to say
like am I ready to like reallybe with somebody, to have
somebody like really occupy myspace?
You see what I'm saying becauseI think that's huge.
You know what I'm sayingbecause you know sex only lasts
so long.
You know what I'm saying.
You can, you can take the honey, pack, all that shit, all you
(22:39):
want.
So you know what I'm saying.
Eventually shit dies down.
Eventually shit dies down, andthen you gotta sit with that
motherfucker you see what I'msaying and we gotta occupy each
other's space.
So it's kind of like how doesthat look?
You see what I'm saying.
So when I listened to the song Ithought about all that.
(23:01):
I was like man, just thethought of reentering the
potential to possibly be excitedand stimulated or possibly be
hurt.
You know what I'm saying.
That's why I really dig thesong.
I think it's super dope.
(23:21):
Who did the production?
I'm sorry, I want to make sureI got his super dope.
Who did the production?
Well D?
I'm sorry, I want to make sureI got his name right.
Who did the production on it?
Speaker 2 (23:30):
The music was.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
D-Loud.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
D-Loud D-Loud, d-loud , d-loud.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Okay, cool.
Have you ever seen?
Well, have you ever seen ahealthy relationship?
No, I think that's perspective,but yeah, I love to ask that
(23:54):
question because I love to seethe response from different
genders, different cultures.
You see what I'm saying.
Sometimes people ask well, whatdo you mean?
You know what I'm'm saying?
What's the characteristics?
Well, you know, but why wouldyou say?
Why would you say yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
because, again, I think it's perspective.
It's if it's healthy.
It's healthy because it's whatI would find healthy or what I
would consider like, oh, I wantsomething like this, this would
be cute, um, that's why it'swell.
So it's not what I considerhealthy, may not be what janae
or you consider healthy, butit's prospectively.
I thought I think it's ahealthy relationship.
(24:36):
I've seen some that I considerhealthy and what's healthy to
you um, communication is areally big one, um, especially
when times are hard.
Um, and learning how tomaneuver through those hard
times, um and um.
Reciprocity is a big thing too,in a real and, to me, for a
(24:59):
healthy relationship.
Um, watching, you know, it'snot one person giving more than
the other.
Like I said, the communicate.
Those are the main things forme, communication and
reciprocity.
That makes it, to me, makes arelationship look healthy.
It was what I would consider ahealthy relationship, ok.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Janay, what about you ?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I would.
I would agree with some of thethings that she stated.
I would also like to addcomprehension, um, because just
because communication ishappening in a relationship
doesn't mean the other personunderstands what you're saying,
correct, and that is a reallybig problem.
(25:47):
Just because you can read don'tmean you understand what you
read, you know.
So I think that is, for me, isnumber one.
And then I would also sayemotional maturity on both ends,
because you all can haveconversations and really get
(26:10):
into it or you all be at areally good space, but that,
that emotional maturity, is what, in my opinion, is going to
really, to a certain degree, befoundational for a relationship.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, somebody gotto talk the other one down,
(26:33):
somebody got to talk the otherone down.
You know it can't be all the wayback, Because it's going to
happen.
You're not going to be eachother's piece all the time, Like
really.
It's going to happen.
And when it does happen, youknow it does take, like you said
, emotional maturity for atleast one of y'all to be like,
(26:54):
hey, let's bring this back,let's have, let's figure out
another way to, let's have aconversation, let's approach
this differently, let's figureout what the problem is.
Right.
Both of us, both need it, likeyou said, because if that
emotional maturity is not there,you can tell me you did XYZ,
(27:15):
and if I'm not in a space that Iam mature, we really now I'm
getting back because I'm goingto get my lick back.
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (27:26):
come on man, talk about the pettiness.
Get my leg back.
You know what I'm saying.
Come on man, talk about thepettiness.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yeah, when y'all are, y'all are both there in that
space and recognize that this iswhy we're together and we want
to do this and you both desireto make, want to make it work,
then then, then I think, oh yeah, I for sure think both people
need emotional maturity.
I also know, just realistically, as many years of therapy and
(27:55):
spiritual counseling, everythingI've had, I still have my
moments.
So that's why we both need tohave it, because if I fall off
the horse and I can't bringmyself down, you know, I may
need you to remind me.
Hey, we're not doing that,you're right, let me bring
myself down.
I may need you to remind me hey, we're not doing that, you're
right.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
I think that's a very good point.
Then I think what Janay saidabout the comprehension piece
you hear what I'm saying, butyou don't really understand what
I'm saying.
It's easy to nod your head andbe like I heard you.
You know what I'm saying,because it's easy to nod your
head and be like right, right,like you heard me, but it's like
but did you really hear me?
(28:33):
You know what I'm saying.
So I think that part is like, Ithink that part is huge in this
.
And as far as the emotionalmaturity, I think there's a lack
of emotional intelligence.
You know what I'm saying?
And I think when you have that,there's the potential for
things to get blown out ofproportion.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Like it's harder for me to take your criticism, you
know, right.
So now my guards are like up,they're like super flared up,
and no matter what you say to me, it's going to come off as
defensive yeah, it's hard, yeah,and be named to communicate too
.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Like today's not a good day, you know.
Like we don't?
you don't gotta be.
A thing like today is I've beenhaving an interesting day, okay
, good, the thanks for lettingme know, so we can you know how
to move, know how to moveforward in this.
We're not going to do thatwhole I'm fine, I'm fine,
everything's well.
It's not because now you won'tsee what's going on, you know.
So I think that's important,that's all of that.
(29:37):
It's like to the what janaesaying all that.
That's a healthy relationship.
How I see, how I see it anymoreokay, okay.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
I want to talk about the video about the speed dating
.
I thought it was hilarious.
How did that come about?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
We were having a group discussion me, janae and D
Louse about how we want to doit.
Louse said something about youknow, cuffing season approach.
I'm saying that's true, um, andwe were.
So we were trying to figure outwhat to do to market it.
And so then I was sitting thereI think I was high, and then I
was like, oh, okay, we could doa, we could do a speed dating
(30:24):
series.
Um, one of my homies, biancaShaw, she released a project
called Get a Job and so she didlike a little series where she
worked with corporate Her andcorporate did a bunch of random
jobs.
It was like she was doingOnlyFans in one video, another
video.
She was driving Lyft anothervideo.
It was that and I thought thatwas so creative.
(30:45):
So I was like, okay, what if wedid a Speed Dane series and it
leads up to y'all meeting, right, but what it is is y'all often
have some interesting dates,like it's going to be some
really wild characters thaty'all meet, and I called my
homie Derek Dow, who directedand wrote the script for
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everything, and then my otherhomie, dami, who's the DP and
editor of everything, and hadthem come together and create
the Quickspark.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Speed Dating Series.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Can either one of you speak to a very memorable date
that you either chose toremember or try your hardest to
forget.
Wait, okay, I'll go first,because I know what Tan's going
to be and hers is way funnier.
So a date that I went on, Ihope.
(31:56):
If this person ever sees thisvideo, I hope they're not
offended, but this is true.
So I went on a date with thisguy who had been wanting to go
on a date with me and he don'tget me wrong he was really sweet
, he was really handsome, but healso wasn't necessarily my type
.
But I was giving him a shot.
(32:17):
He, one of his family members,had a wedding and he asked me if
I would go and I was like, yeah, I'd love to go to a wedding
with you.
And I was dressed up real cute.
You know, I'm put together and Idon't know if in Chicago y'all
(32:37):
had a.
It was the store out here inGary called Tom Maleska's and
they had these granddaddywalking suits.
They was like linen walkingsuits with these crazy patterns.
I'm a zoot suit-ish, you knowwhat I'm saying.
He came to pick me up.
(33:01):
I already gave him a passbecause I was not feeling that
outfit.
It was like the laughing stalkof the area if some young person
went in there and bought it andI was like, okay, I'm gonna
give him a shot.
And then it was for me.
It's the small things that bereally turning me off, y'all.
I looked at his uh, he had the,the suit on, but under he had,
(33:28):
instead of a white beater on, hehad some T-shirt, some screen
T-shirt that he turned insideout.
And I know this sounds reallybad y'all, but I was like you
didn't need that T-shirt on, bro, you could have just went naked
.
Why do you?
have this on and it just reallyturned me off because I already
(33:50):
wasn't really feeling it.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
And it kind of made up, so it really didn't take
much.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
It didn't take much, and it's crazy, but you know, in
all honesty, all of the guysthat I have ever dated, whether
we were in a full-blownrelationship with one another or
it was not.
I don't have nothing bad to sayabout the men that I've dated
in my lifetime.
They don't get me wrong, theythey've.
They gave me some doozies youknow, but I also recognize that
(34:17):
we were all at different placesand times in life and you
reacted the way that you did.
Oh yeah, but go ahead, tan.
What's my most interesting?
Well, the only one is the morerecent one, because I had to,
anyway.
So I went, I was on the datingapp and I met this person.
(34:38):
He was really cool.
We had a really greatconversation, very handsome.
We were supposed to go on adate.
He tells me, prior to the date,in advance, that he had jaw
replacement surgery.
I said interesting, because Icouldn't tell.
And that's all he really saidwas I had jaw replacement
surgery because he had, um,something happened in his
(34:59):
whatever.
Oh, they, he said they put apiece of his hip in his lower
left side of his jaw and I waslike, oh, I hope this man don't
look like Kanye after theaccident.
And I was like, okay, okay,okay, he's gonna be fine.
Like then, like because me andmy cousin went through his
pictures to try to see if we cansee is this before or after his
(35:19):
surgery?
let's, we was trying to figurethat out and then I met up with
him and I was like, okay, helooks decent.
And then we were talking and Icould tell something because he
would cover up his mouth a lot,and then he laughed like big and
I realized the whole entirebottom left half of his mouth
(35:39):
had no teeth.
It was just completely no teethdown here.
And I was like, oh, oh shit, Iguess that makes sense because
there's no teeth in the hip bone, right?
So I guess that makes sense.
He said that, um, the firsttime they gave him a replacement
jaw from someone else orsomething and his body wouldn't
(36:00):
take it.
So then they put the hip bonethere and then so they're trying
to see if his body would takethe hip bone, I guess, before
they add the teeth.
I don't know, um, but I love it.
It was interesting and I triedto be cool because I'm like he's
cool tan, you know, don't be soshallow, even though in my head
I'm like I just can't demand noteeth but.
(36:21):
I tried to be cool.
You know we text a little bit,just it.
But I knew I, I was like I Idon't see myself being able to
be attracted to him.
But, um, he invited me over tohis house like a couple days
later and I was like, because helived around the corner, I live
far and I was like, okay, wecan at least be friends.
Maybe it's good to have a friendyou can kick it with and I went
out this house in no shade tolow income housing, because
(36:44):
that's not the issue I pulled upup.
It was the low-income housing.
It said it on the marquee thisis low-income housing.
I go into the lobby, yeah, onthe low-income housing.
And then I go into the lobby tothe elevator and there's a big
pile of dog shit and I just waslike you got to be kidding me
(37:07):
and I was staring at it and thevoice in my head was like you
got to be kidding me and I wasstaring at it.
And then a voice in my head waslike Tan, turn around.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
I'm like don't be like that.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
I was like don't be like that, because you know,
this is just an apartment, right?
This ain't his apartment, thisis the apartment building.
And so I remember going up intohis apartment.
He had a studio apartment.
I went in there and I rememberthinking oh no, especially that
on short, and I was like, ohokay, and his couch was like
(37:35):
this multi-colored couch whereit was like stains and had an
odor.
He had a cat and the cat hairwas everywhere and the cat was
all over what kept.
It was like the cat was allover me.
So then the fur was all over meand then he tried to like touch
me or something and because Ididn't want to do anything with
him, especially not in thisdisgusting apartment like an
(37:57):
attitude and sat in the becauseagainst the studio.
So his bed was next to thecouch and he sat on his bed away
from me because he was madabout it.
I went to the bathroom and hisbathroom had beard hair stuck on
the wall.
It was disgusting.
I said, okay, I got to get upout of here.
Then I just was like no, thisis fine, I'm going.
I blocked him as soon as I gotto the car.
(38:18):
I was like I'm not doing this,no more.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Look, all right, shit , I mean mean gotta step your
game up.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
At least make sure your crib clean, huh minimum.
I even asked him.
I said you know that this paldog shit?
He said yeah, that's been theresince this morning.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
I said oh okay, oh oh , nobody, nobody wanted to get
that.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Huh, nobody, nobody felt like they should pick it up
.
Everybody just said it it ain'tmy problem, it's not my dog.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Exactly.
Okay, I got a serious questionright.
So, since we're talking aboutdating, you know the risk of
hopping into relationships withpeople.
So here's the situation youhave somebody that you are
physically attracted to, likethey get you.
(39:11):
You know what I'm saying.
When you see them, you like,yeah, you get it.
You know, when you talk to them, the conversations are
stimulating conversations andthey treat you right.
So you're thinking like, ok,cool, I can move forward with
this person, right.
But then you find out he abucket boy.
Like he plays buckets.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Literal bucket boy Okay.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Right he a bucket boy .
Do you move forward with it?
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Does he have a job outside of playing the buckets,
or is that?
Speaker 1 (39:43):
all no, but he make decent money off the buckets.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Well, we bucketing together baby kids or is that
all?
No, but he make decent moneyoff the buckets.
Well, we bucketing together.
Baby, can you pay his billswith this, okay?
Speaker 1 (39:56):
I'm gonna say, yep, he, he found a very decent
intersection and he can, hecould pay.
Would you still be with him?
Speaker 2 (40:07):
I would.
I would.
However, this is with theintention of him not playing the
buckets forever.
Yeah, and what I mean by that?
Okay is your dream.
Well, unless you want to justbe the best bucket boy in the
(40:28):
world, then what are we doing toget you there?
You know what I'm saying.
But if there is more potentialfor you and this women tend to
see potential in me and try tofix things, men and try to fix
(40:52):
things but if there is realpotential, that is there and I
see that you are actually doingwhat you need to do in order to
be bigger than what you are,then I will do what I can to
assist you with getting to yournext.
But if you are just being thebucket boy, because you're okay
with just being that and notbeing the best at it, then I'm
not your girl okay, I like that.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
I like that honest answer.
Yeah, what about you tend tolive?
Speaker 2 (41:19):
um, some probably more so similar.
I'm learning to stay out ofstuff, so I've learned to don't
give your gift or power away soquickly.
So, like Janae said, if this,if you're aspiring to something,
I know what I want for my lifeand how I envision it looking.
So, with that being said, ifyou aspire for something more
(41:43):
cool, we can work together.
Like she said, you know, Ithink that women women as when
we do typically come in and tryto help, you know, push to the
next level.
But I'm only doing that if youwant that.
If that's not what you want,then I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Um, we can be friends okay, um shifting gears, who
are some of you?
Uh, you, who are some of y'allmusical influences.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Ooh For me.
I would say the Emotions.
I would say Big Crit, I wouldsay Victoria Monet, I would say
(42:35):
any.
I went to a performing artsschool so we learned a lot of
Negro spiritual music and one ofthe people that I fell in love
with was Moses Hogan.
He was an arranger.
Those would be off top thepeople, and Beyonce, of course.
Those would be the influencesfor me for sure.
(42:56):
Okay, mine are a lot of oldschool soulful artists.
My mama listened to a lot ofGladys Knight.
Gladys Knight is one of myall-time favorites.
I feel like people sleep onGladys um.
But what I love about Gladysand her music is how emotionally
(43:17):
connected her songs like she.
It is basically um, from thebackground arrangements to like
like.
One of my favorite songs ofhers is, I feel, a song in my
heart again because of thechanges in the song, how it gets
real dramatic at one point andthen when it gets to the hook
and she's happy, the musicchanges like.
That's like.
(43:37):
I think people sleep on gladysknight and how phenomenal she is
.
But gladys knight, uh.
Reetha franklin, um.
I love artists who JasmineSullivan, any people who put up
a like.
It's not just a song, it's anexperience.
That's what I like aboutKendrick Lamar, like it's not
just a song, it's an experience.
(43:58):
So people who createexperiences in music are the
ones are, and it doesn't evenmatter the genre.
Those are like my top favorites.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
That's dope, that's dope, that's dope.
I'm a big fan of Big KRIT anddefinitely Jasmine Sutherland.
I think she's an awesomesongwriter.
Yeah, definitely, definitely.
Before we end this, I want toplay a game real quick and it's
called 4 for 4, right?
So basically, I give you a wordor a phrase and you respond
(44:40):
with four words.
You can only respond with fourwords, okay, all right.
So, yeah, this take a lot ofcounting, you know, sometimes,
sometimes people just blur out,out and I be like nigga, that
was eight words, you know whatI'm saying a piece or like four
words all together four words.
I'm going to give Jhene one, youone, alright, so I'm going to
go with you first, jhene no, no,no.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
I need the rules again.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
I need the rules again if you can only respond,
I'm going to give you either aword or a phrase, and you can
only respond with four words gotit let's just say um, so let's
say, if the word was DonaldTrump, I would probably say we
(45:24):
are fucked up.
Okay, got it.
Got it, alright, what I'msaying.
Yeah, so I'm going to go withyou first, jenae, okay.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Bad dates.
Bad dates.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
Everybody has them.
Oh, you broke up.
Everybody, huh, everybody hasthem.
Yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
Oh, you broke up.
Everybody huh Every time.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Yeah, okay, Works for me Works for me, tend to live.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Low income housing.
Pay attention to signs.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
There we go, there we go, there we go, janae
Summertime.
Summertime, hmm, always needthe lake oh, that's nice, that's
(46:46):
nice, uh, tendalia heartbreak alearning experience for all are
you combining for all?
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Yep, she said what she said, okay.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
I'm not judging.
I'm not judging at all.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
We listen and we don't judge.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
I feel you on that.
I feel you on that.
I feel you on that.
Janae, dirty socks.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
Put them in Washing machine, combined it again
Combined it.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Washer machine Commander again Commander.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Put him in washer.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
Put him in washer.
There you go, Julia.
Last one Untitled.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Uncertainty for the future Wow.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Oh, I like that.
I like that.
I appreciate y'all playing itand I also appreciate y'all Um,
give me all time, Cause I alwaystell people time is way more
important.
It's way more valuable I don'tknow important, but it's way
more valuable than money.
You know what I'm saying.
You can get money back.
Can't get time back at all.
(48:24):
You know what I'm saying.
So, with that being said, letpeople know where they can find
y'all at what y'all got comingup performances, Instagram pages
, Facebook pages, TikTok, allthat.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
Okay.
Well, first of all, I want tosay thank you for having us.
We sincerely appreciate thisbecause your time is valuable as
well.
All right, thank you, but whatwe have coming up?
We have been releasingdifferent episodes to the Quick
Sparks.
I actually just released thesecond episode on my page this
(49:00):
evening or earlier today, andthey can find that at janae
jones sings on all platformsokay, hold on for one second.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
Make sure I spell this right.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
That ain't right.
Oh no, who's John?
John David Graham.
Yes, that is correct.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
There you go, Tenderly.
What about you Same?
Speaker 2 (49:42):
difference.
We, that is correct.
There you go.
Okay, tenderly, what about you?
Same difference we're releasingthe series.
The song is out.
I'll be performing at CityWinery on January 21st.
It's a rarity, it's a very rareexperience.
I don't really perform, but,yeah, I'll be performing at City
Winer on January 21st.
(50:03):
I got on top of this projectI'm doing with Janae.
I got several other artists whoare releasing projects or songs
that I've written in thisupcoming year.
That will be coming out as well, and you can find me either at
Sessions with Tandalea or atMaster Plan 10.
Everything is on one of thosetwo pages.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
I want to make sure I got this right.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
Yes Sessions with Tandalea Yep, you got the name
right.
I'm so glad you know and I'mglad you remember, because
typically people don't rememberhow to pronounce it.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
I'm doing it again, so I'm still impressed, you know
and you know what, give a madshout out to CPS education.
God damn it.
You know what I'm saying.
They did something right.
They did something right.
Yeah, they did something right,yeah.
Once again, I want to thanky'all for y'all time and really
thank y'all for y'all talent.
The song is dope.
I'm saying that with allsincerity.
(51:10):
You know the person that I letlisten to it.
She like Alright, alright.
I definitely appreciate the songand I always like to hear good
music.
You know what I'm saying.
(51:31):
And for me, having anopportunity to say that I was
able to sit down and talk withthese wonderful individuals, you
know what I'm saying.
It's a blessing for me.
I love it.
You know what I'm saying.
So I appreciate y'all time,y'all talent, and the creators
are needed, y'all the ones thatkeep people sane, and I
(51:55):
definitely agree with what yousaid earlier about the music
that's needed that makemotherfuckers want to cry.
You know what I'm saying.
We can't be fighting all thegoddamn time.
You know what I'm saying.
You know.
Cry sometimes, nigga.
You know.
Please Cry your cotton.
You know what I'm saying, butthere's nothing wrong with it.
And yo, if y'all got anythingthat's coming up, you know what
(52:17):
I'm saying hit me up.
I'll definitely promote it onthe platform I'm going to be
seeing y'all again.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
Thank you so much for having us.
Thank you for platforms likethis that give us an opportunity
to share and talk about ourmusic.
As you know, especially being acreative and especially
independent artist, there's nota lot of platforms that give us
that opportunity.
Speaker 1 (52:41):
Thank you, no problem , you're very welcome.
You're very welcome.
Keep making that dope shit,thank you, and watch out for the
dog shit in the apartment.
Watch me go Shout out to allthe dudes out there.
If y'all having somebody overclean up the fucking apartment,
clean, y'all having somebodyover clean up the fucking
(53:01):
apartment, clean the house atleast get some plug hands, my
nigga they go a long way forreal.
Y'all be cool and stay blessedand much success to y'all in the
future.
Real talk, no problem later.
Peace.
Future real talk, thank you, noproblem later, peace.
(53:21):
Yo, that was dope, y'all.
That was dope.
Shout out to my guests uh,coming through kicking it with
me y'all.
Make sure y'all, y'all staytuned, check them out with
everything they got going on thesong.
Hey, when I say the songUntitled is dope, it's dope,
(53:42):
it's dope as hell, I mean that.
So I'm going to leave y'allwith this man.
I don't know, I don't know whoneed to hear this, but live in
the moment.
Live in the moment and paceyourself.
Live in the moment.
Live in the moment and paceyourself.
(54:03):
Try not to overthink and justenjoy what's in front of you for
real Because, like I said, timeis valuable.
You don't want to waste it, soenjoy it.
Don't overthink, pace yourself.
It's a lot of beautiful stuffout there.
There's a lot of beautifulminor things out there that you
can experience and have awonderful day.
(54:26):
Always remember y'all.
The dots will connect, theywill connect.
You got to believe that.
Anyway, I want to give a madshout out to the family Joey,
bryce, jalen, smokedgy Dog, mama, that's the cat.
That's my cat.
Y'all Don't be fronting on me.
I got a fucking cat and hername is Mama.
(54:48):
Also, leave y'all with makefans, not followers.
Followers will get you clout.
Fans will get you work.
Trust the process.
Shout out to my man, deck of Dprocess.
Shout out to my man, deck ofDurs.
Shout out to my man, bub G.
Shout out to B Carrington.
Shout out to my girl, dee DeeLicious.
Shout out to the Pig Pockets.
(55:09):
God damn it.
It's some major shit coming up.
Y'all and shameless, plug y'all.
Make sure y'all check out mynew single y'all that Auntie's
Joint.
It's on all streaming platforms.
It's called that Auntie's Joint.
Y'all.
Make sure y'all go check it out.
And make sure y'all check outthe podcast, the Shits Podcast,
on all streaming platformsSpotify, apple Podcast, anywhere
(55:34):
you get your podcasts at we onthere, god damn it.
So make sure y'all check it outand I will see y'all around.
Man, thank y'all for tuning in,thank y'all for supporting and
shout out to my guests tandaleah and janae jones had a dope
time, dope conversation, andI'll let y'all peace.
(55:58):
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,hey.
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