December 29, 2025 • 71 mins
Ever notice how the best artists don’t just make noise—they guard their peace? We bring Teddy into the booth to talk about what it takes to create with intention when the world keeps pulling your focus. He unpacks the shift from reacting to responding, and why that one choice protects your energy, sharpens your decisions, and lets your music breathe.
Teddy’s path reads like a mixtape: born in Germany, raised across military bases, soaking up cultures from Kansas to Alaska to California before dropping anchor in Chicago. That movement shaped an ear that loves variety—family record crates, a grandmother who DJ’d in Chicago, and early moments of discovery that made hip-hop feel both personal and global. We dive into how context unlocks sound, why cadence matters as much as content, and how local scenes forge identity before the world catches on.
We trace the grind from ciphers and hallway battles to a makeshift studio powered by a tape deck, PS2, and MTV Music Generator—then into Magix, Ableton, and Maschine. Along the way, we compare California and Chicago show ecosystems, the role of open mics in building an artist’s voice, and the pride a city takes when its sound travels. We also face the industry head-on: streaming’s reach vs. revenue, the early pioneers who took the heat for brand-building, and whether AI can polish a track yet still miss the human connection that turns songs into moments. We close with life lessons that carry into the studio: a healthy relationship as a place of growth, safety, and accountability—and a few laughs about love, loyalty, and even impossible deodorant.
Pull up for craft, perspective, and a warm invite to Kitty’s Cocktail Lounge Sunday Service in Blue Island. If you’re into live music, community energy, and artists who put heart first, you’ll feel at home. If this conversation moved you, subscribe, rate, and share it with a friend who needs a creative spark. Your support helps the culture grow.
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SPEAKER_07 (00:16):
Yo.
What up, y'all?
This is your boy, your host, DJ,Monsong the Raw, the dopest DJ
that you heard thus far, and thedopest host that you heard thus
far.
And y'all are now tuned down tothe shits podcast where we are
either shooting the shit,starting some shit, or picking
up what shit left off.
Yo, we have a very special guestto the podcast this week, as
(00:39):
always, as always.
And the reason and the thingthat makes this brother so
special to the podcast is I feellike this was a situation where
the universe put me where Ineeded to be.
So, not to drag it out, but uh Iwent to my man uh Lyric
Versatile Sunday service over atKitty's Cocktail Lounge.
(01:03):
Um, nice vibe, sitting therechilling, listen to the music.
And uh and this brother walksin, man, hops on the mic, and
they start singing.
He had a phenomenal voice.
Then he started rhyming.
So I'm like, oh, snap, talented,very talented brother.
And I was blessed that thisbrother had a very good
personality.
(01:24):
So I was able to chop it up withhim and talk about some future
project stuff.
We're not gonna talk about thatright now, but also asked him to
get on the podcast and he wascool with it.
So, with no further ado, I wantto introduce the vocalist, the
MC, and the producer, my man,Teddy.
(01:45):
Y'all give it up for Teddy,y'all.
SPEAKER_01 (01:48):
Hey, how's it going, everyone?
SPEAKER_07 (01:50):
Yes, sir, yes, sir, yes, sir.
How you feel, man?
I'm pretty good, pretty good.
And how about yourself?
I'm good, man.
I'm good, no complaints, man.
Just over here drinking my tealike an old man.
Well, uh or or Asian prophet,you know what I'm saying?
Not to be, not trying to beracist.
Um just vibing, just vibing.
(02:12):
So um, on on the podcast, man,we always like to check in with
our guests, man.
And since you are the guest,this, the phenomenal guest this
week, man, I want to ask you,I'm asking you this question.
And it seems like when I askthis question, artists they like
to talk about the projectsthey're working on.
(02:32):
But when I ask this question,and I say, What are you working
on?
I'm asking, what are you workingon internally, mentally,
emotionally?
So, what are you working on thisweek, brother?
SPEAKER_01 (02:45):
Oh, that's always a constant thing.
So, pretty much just how to stayconsistent, how to block the
outer noise, and just reallyfocus on your your inner voice.
Being able to like that, yeah,just really being able to tap
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into that that inner knowing,you know, like that inner voice,
that intuition.
And uh, pretty much, man, justbeing mindful, just trying to
stay in that moment, stayingpresent.
SPEAKER_07 (03:23):
I like that.
I like that.
And and it's it's interestingthat you say that, man, because
I think sometimes when you ask,when you ask people, um are they
in tune with themselves, umsometimes people don't know what
it means, you know, to really uhhave a to really have a good
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understanding of how you'refeminine, you know, to really
have a good understanding ofwhat's what's making you happy
at the moment, what's making youirritated at the moment, all
that kind of stuff, you know,because I think in this in this
day and age, we get so focusedon the other stuff, you know
(04:09):
what I'm saying?
Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_01 (04:14):
So go ahead.
Yeah, it's definitely one ofthose things that's important,
especially nowadays.
It's so much stuff that's goingon, and so many different things
to react to versus to respondto.
SPEAKER_07 (04:31):
And elaborate on that.
Elaborate, you said you said toreact to and to respond to,
elaborate on that.
SPEAKER_01 (04:40):
Yeah, so basically, a lot of the stuff that is on
the external, if we let it, itcan end up messing with the
internal.
And a lot of the stuff that'sgoing on, nine times out of ten
doesn't really fall fall, itdoesn't really fall under
something that's under ourcontrol.
(05:03):
And so we just become reactive.
So if we're not careful withthat, we start reacting to more
stuff, draining ourselves, andthen not being able to just like
take a step back and respond.
It's like, okay, well, thishappened, this happened out
here, this happened over here,somebody said this, somebody did
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this, versus being the onethat's just reacting to it,
like, you know, and uh steppingback and being able to be like,
okay, well, all of thathappened, but how am I gonna
respond to that?
Right, you know, how do I chooseto move forward knowing this
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information?
And and that really helps out alot in the long run because no
matter what's happening on theoutside, you keep your peace and
you're able to make betterdecisions.
SPEAKER_07 (06:02):
That makes sense.
That makes a lot of sense, and Iand I appreciate you saying
that, man, because um I feellike a lot of times, especially
in our community, uh we do justreact.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, like we're doing we'redoing more reacting than
responding.
And to me, I feel likeresponding takes more thought.
(06:25):
You see what I'm saying?
Right.
Reacting is just like you saidsomething slick, I just want the
I just went with the first thingthat came to mind.
You see what I'm saying?
Like, I threw a motherfuckingwater bottle at your compared to
right, yeah.
You know, like compared toresponding and being like, Oh,
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you call my mama, bitch.
I need this water, you know whatI'm saying?
Like, I'm not gonna throw mywater bottle at you, you know
what I'm saying?
But let me try to come up withsomething very clever about
trying and whatever, you know.
I don't know, you know what I'msaying?
SPEAKER_01 (07:01):
But just taking a step back, like you know, a lot
of that stuff is stuff thatthey're having problems with on
the internal, right?
And it's just starting to likecome out, and it's coming out
like towards you.
So now you're having to stepback, be like, okay, this
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person's acting like this.
But I know it doesn't haveanything to do with me.
Like, it might be a lot of stuffthat's going on on their
internal, like whatever's goingon with them on the inside, and
this is just how they choose togo ahead and release that or
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even direct that.
It might be misdirected moretimes than not.
But then it's like, okay, well,if I don't add any fuel to this
fire, then the flame dies out.
I can go ahead and just chooseto not respond.
You know, now this person'seither going to wear themselves
(08:04):
out talking to the wall, orpretty much, man, it just ends
up being you move on, thisperson's still stuck with
whatever it is that they'redealing with.
Or you could look at it from theperspective of compassion, you
know, maybe talk to the person.
(08:26):
You're gonna have to reallydiscern whether or not that
person's in a mental capacity todo that.
But you know, there's manydifferent uh ways that you can
respond versus just react.
SPEAKER_07 (08:41):
I love that.
I love that, and I kind of feellike you should be the person
that's drinking the Asian profittea that I'm drinking right now
because you land down some jamson us right now, brother.
You know what I'm saying?
Yes, sir.
SPEAKER_01 (08:57):
Um it just comes along with being being on this
life journey, man, like andlearning from many different
people and just learning fromthe experiences.
SPEAKER_07 (09:09):
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
So let me ask you this, man.
Where where are you originallyfrom?
SPEAKER_01 (09:14):
Oh man, originally I'm from everywhere.
I I had like military parents,so both of them.
Uh one was born and raised inChicago, uh, the other one was
born and raised out there inTexas.
So they met each other in themilitary, and um, I was born out
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in Nuremberg, Germany.
Oh, out there in Bavaria.
Okay, yeah, so pretty much, man,we bounced around from pretty
much wherever they stationed.
So we went from Germany toKansas to Alaska, then to
(09:55):
California, and uh from there,from California, we stayed there
the most.
It was like about 16 years.
And uh from from there, man,after that, I moved out here
back in uh 2011.
SPEAKER_07 (10:11):
Oh, that's that's awesome because when we were
talking, I thought you would, Ithought it was just California.
I didn't know it was fuckingGermany and Kansas and all these
other places.
That's awesome, man.
Um how do you think thosedifferent environments shaped
(10:35):
the adult you've become to thisday?
SPEAKER_01 (10:38):
Man, there was so much diversity.
One thing about the military,too, was that when it came to
like the racial tensions and allof that kind of stuff, yeah, we
really didn't see a whole lot ofthat.
And a lot of the stuff that washappening at that time, because
it was like back in the 90s, um,anybody who was really trying to
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start that, they'd end upsquashing that real quick.
And I noticed that a lot,especially when I was out there
in California when I was livingthere.
You know, anybody tried to startthat kind of stuff, it was like
everybody was just everybody inthat community would end up just
stopping that.
Like, hey, that's not what we'reon, you know.
(11:21):
Yeah, fell out with that.
SPEAKER_09 (11:23):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (11:24):
You know, so if the person didn't really get the
memo, then they had a problemwith not just what they owned,
but they also had it with therest of the community.
So yeah, man, we used to justplay ball.
I used to live out there in thehigh desert, San Bernardino,
Barstow, California.
SPEAKER_07 (11:41):
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (11:41):
So, you know, shout out to uh Leolani, because you
know, Pomona.
I was like, dog, somebody cameout from Pomona and uh did it
big, man.
Out there on tour with Deltronand stuff.
So that that was reallyinspiring to me.
SPEAKER_07 (11:57):
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (11:58):
Um, shout out to Psychedelic as well.
You know, um, everybody prettymuch just inspired me,
especially when I was out therein California.
SPEAKER_07 (12:10):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (12:11):
So many different vibes, so many different
perspectives and ways of beingcreative.
For me, when I moved from Alaskadown to California, before I had
moved there, I had uh heard NewBandre's um Ain't Nothing But a
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G thing out there in the nurse'soffice in the third grade.
SPEAKER_07 (12:37):
Wait, hold on the last thing.
Hold on.
You heard ain't nothing but a Gthing in the third grade in the
nurse's station.
How is that, bro?
How?
SPEAKER_01 (12:50):
So at the time they had radio stations and all of
that.
Okay.
You know, they had back thenthey had radio edits and
everything.
But yeah, somehow it just endedup being something that landed
on the radio station.
And at the time I wasn't feelingwell, so when I heard it, I'm
like, oh, this is dope.
(13:11):
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, I don't know whatthis is, you know, because we
weren't really exposed to a lotof hip hop in the family.
You know, it was mostly like RBor it might be some stuff like
Alice and Chains.
Well, we weren't really aroundthat one, but I found out my
folks had those records, CurtisBlow and Beastie Boys, you know,
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and stuff like that.
So when they had a when we weretalking about them having a
whole record collection, I meanrecord collection, almost like
400 and something albums.
And they weren't reallycollectors, you could tell,
because Amon mainly, she had allher stuff with the tags, like
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the little stickers and stufflike that.
So I think that just came fromthe background of my grandmother
being a DJ out there in Chicagoat the time.
Uh serious, bro?
Yeah, she was uh she was onewith DJ, uh Peggy Ellis.
Uh so yeah, man.
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Uh music was definitely in thefamily as far as it went.
So all of this stuff, all thepeople that I've met, it just
helped me to be well-rounded,but also to see things from many
different perspectives.
SPEAKER_07 (14:34):
And that I feel like that's um that's awesome to have
in your skill set, you know, theability to uh to appreciate
diversity, um, not just inpeople, but also in music.
Because sometimes I think we getuh kind of bogged down into
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listening to just one type ofmusic.
You know what I'm saying?
It's just all trap, all rap, allRB, all rock, you know.
But when you have people thatreally can come along and they
have a genuine uh love for alltypes of music, because it
resonates like this resonateswith them in different ways.
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I think that's that's abeautiful thing to have, man.
It's just something about thatthat I that I feel uh said
something about your soul.
You get what I'm saying?
Like it's just something in you.
Um so would you say that thethird grade situation was your
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introduction to hip-hop?
Or do you think like it came ona on a on a more um which word
I'm looking for?
Impactful moment.
SPEAKER_01 (15:53):
Actually, earlier on, I would say when we were
living in Kansas out there, umthe main ones we would be
listening to was like WillSmith, you know, you'd have
Fresh Prince, uh Jeff.
And um there was another onethat was out there.
(16:16):
Uh, what hammer?
Hammer at the time.
MC Hammer, yeah.
Like before, you know, when the90s started hitting people, it
was like, man, you bump MCHammer around us, you getting
stomped out, you know, type ofstuff.
Yeah.
MC Hammer was really one ofthose uh positive dudes.
(16:37):
Ironically enough, with Hammer,the fact that he was doing like
a lot of the putting people onand doing the corporate, you
know, sponsorships and stufflike that, kind of kind of got
killed for that.
But you look at it now in 2025,everybody's doing the exact same
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thing.
So it's almost like, you know,so it's almost like, you know,
one person has to kind of takethe hit in order for people to
kind of look at it and be likelater on, oh man, you know, we
really was on to something.
Yeah.
You know, for our generation, itwas hammered for um people
before us.
It probably was like Prince, youknow, telling people about the
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streaming and all of that andkeeping everything physical and
going on tours and things.
And now we're kind of looking atthat and saying to ourselves,
man, you know what?
That dude was really right.
SPEAKER_07 (17:36):
Like he was, he was, you know, so sorry to cut you
off.
Like, I think I definitely feellike Prince was on to something,
right?
Um, however, it's when it comesto streaming, I think that um it
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has its pros and its cons,right?
Right.
So like um, yeah, wheneverything was upset, um the
artist was able, especially likeindependent artists, so I think
these that was selling it outthe triangle, you know what I'm
saying?
So you thinking you're lookingat it like if if his if he's if
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if he was telling the truthabout the numbers that he was
doing, that's some good money,you know what I'm saying?
Because you're making CDs islike at the least 11 bucks, at
the least, you know what I'msaying?
Right.
So if you selling, you know, ahundred CDs in a day, I'm not
even gonna try to do fuckingmath on it, I'm not, but if you
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sell 100 CDs in it in a day andyou're getting 11 bucks off of
you bring in decent money andyou keep it on that, you're
keeping all that, right?
Now, the only thing that I thinkuh wasn't the I guess it depends
on your hustle.
For you to reach the amount ofpeople that you can reach with
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streaming, you would have todrive from one city to the next
city within the same day.
You see what I'm saying?
Right to try to, you know, sopeople can actually get that
physical copy.
So I think now when it comes tostreaming, you have somebody
that's in California that canupload their music to one of
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these platforms and it can beheard in Chicago, Kansas,
Germany, Japan, you know,London, Australia.
Right, right.
It goes it really gets throughfaster.
Right, right.
So, but as far as the as far asa monetary game, I don't
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necessarily think the artistsare seeing that.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you're not like they'renot getting rich off this shit.
You see what I'm saying?
Right.
They're getting they're gettingnoticed off of it.
Um, so I I I think it has itspros and its cons.
Um But I do think about thewhole concept of changing the
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culture, right?
So when you when you think aboutthe term change the culture,
what do you think about?
What comes to mind?
SPEAKER_01 (20:19):
Change the culture.
Well, usually when you'rechanging a culture, you're
changing either a train ofthought or you're changing uh
behavior.
SPEAKER_07 (20:37):
I like that.
I like that.
But I but I do I do think thatthe train of thought comes
before the change of behavior,though.
That's what I was saying.
Yeah.
Um so when you say that, I thinkabout um the first time that I
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heard Gucci Man on the radio.
Right.
And before that, I was like, nodisrespect to Gucci Man
whatsoever.
However, before I heard him onthe radio, anybody that really
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sounded in the community that Iwas in, and the circle that I
ran with, anybody that soundedlike that on a record, you they
clowned them because theysounded like they were slow.
You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01 (21:36):
I remember that was the time.
Um that was probably aroundabout the time when a lot of the
southern uh music was comingout.
Not coming out, but reallygetting notice, notice like that
for the trap, the drill, theother stuff in the 2000s.
Don't get me wrong, there waslike phenomenal artists out
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there in the South, way beforethat.
Like Scarface, you know, yeah,you'd have Outcast and everybody
else that was out.
Yeah, but um, when they starteddoing that old or what have you,
it was one of those things thata lot of people were having a
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hard time getting used to.
SPEAKER_07 (22:22):
Yeah, I was one of those people.
SPEAKER_01 (22:25):
Yeah, I was like, man, hey, being in high school
and hearing hive by juvenile, itkind of threw me off.
I'm like, huh?
What is he saying?
I have no idea, you know.
But luckily, I had some peoplethat were out there that were
from Louisiana, and they wereexplaining it to me.
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So, like, I was lucky to havethat kind of reference.
Not too many people had that.
Right.
So then it was sounding crazy,and then for myself, it was
like, okay, it sounds crazy, butthe way that they're explaining
it to me, okay, I I can get thisnow.
It's not as, you know, one wayas I thought it would be.
SPEAKER_07 (23:10):
Right, right.
The diversity, the diversity,right?
There's like, I'm I'm I'm tryingto see it from a different lens.
You know what I'm saying?
To try to get somebody else'sperspective on how they're
living and what's their reality.
You know right.
And and I feel like I feel likeyou still have to appreciate it
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because a person was able, aperson was able to take what was
in their head and put it on a ona record.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
So it's it's one thing to takewhat you're thinking about and
be able to put it on a recordand just fucking say it, you
know.
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Um, people out here gettingrobbed in my neighborhood,
people out here, you know, uh,you know, whatever, smoking
drugs in my neighborhood.
But it's another thing to put itonto a record and to be able to
stay within the pocket and tomake it rhyme and to make it
sound a certain way.
So that's why I haveappreciation for all artists.
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You know what I'm saying?
It may not be my type of music,but I do have that appreciation
for artists because you do haveto think about delivery, you do
have to think about how manyshould I should I keep this
amount of words in thatsentence?
Should I say it like this andwoo-woo woo, you know, so yeah,
I I definitely appreciate it.
(24:40):
Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (24:43):
Go ahead.
Yeah, it's it's one of thosethings that makes me think to a
lot of artists that are out now,like that are doing different
stuff.
Yeah, uh, one of the guys,Bruiser Wolf, like his cadence
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is one of those that's likereally unique to him, the way
that he does it.
But the bars that he puts in andthe way that he delivers it,
it's like my goodness, bro.
Like, you know, you're sittingup here and you're like, man, on
the surface, it sounds like, youknow, um old school pimping.
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But you know, something sosimple ends up hitting, you
know, uh, what is it?
Drug addicts remind me of BJs.
They play with needles and youknow, that kind of stuff.
I'm like, bro.
You know, losing is dope.
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You know, it might not be, itmight not be everybody's cup of
tea as far as it goes with howto deliver and all of the other
stuff.
But this dude, when you'relistening to it, bro, this this
is bars.
So it's the same way, I'm prettysure with everything, you know,
everybody has their preferencesand the way that they uh they
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resonate with different musicand different artists.
SPEAKER_07 (26:14):
Yeah.
Um when did you start?
Uh when did you get to the pointwhere you say, you know what,
what I wanna I wanna make Iwanna make this music too.
I want to create too.
SPEAKER_01 (26:33):
That was freshman year 2000 over in Barstow High.
Oh man, that was when I wasseeing a lot of people doing
freestyles and they were kickingciphers and going into battles
and stuff like that.
But as teens, you don't reallyknow too much about what you're
doing, except for the ones whowas like really, really into it.
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Um high school for us, hometownheroes was like hieroglyphics,
or you would have like livinglegends, or you would have say
trans this, you know,rhymesayers atmosphere, you
know, all of that kind of stuff.
So when I'm watching thesepeople in class and they're just
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rapping and stuff, you know, andthey're like, yeah.
And I thought to myself, this iseasy, like I can do this, right?
And they were like, Really, man?
Just what's the freestyle being?
And I didn't know what afreestyle was, so all I was
doing at that point was justlike pointing out something and
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then just start rhyming aboutit.
Oh snap, you know, and um at thetime, that's when I started
going, okay, I'm gonna see if Ican write this and that.
At the time, they had a dude uhnamed Proverb 8.6, Chris Cully.
You know, he was basically thebest uh rapper in the school,
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but considered that uhpsychedelic, he was also one of
those dudes up there with themercenary crew, and uh then
there was uh another cat whoactually I was so proud to see
later on in life.
Who I got into a battle with uhRonnie, uh Ronnie Driscoll.
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And uh that was the first timebeing in a battle and basically
falling flat, right?
Come to find out full circleyears later, he ends up battling
human.
And I'm like, this is dope.
The same cat that came from highschool, you know.
But uh yeah, I started playingwith a tape recorder, a PS2, uh,
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MTV music generator, and atelevision set, and that's
basically where I just said, youknow, I'm gonna start making
beats.
I still have the tape.
So you know, back then, yeah, Istill got the tape, man, like
right there in the deck.
But um yeah, man, and then Istarted graduating over to
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Magics, and there was a hip-hopmusic maker where where
basically you learn how to likedrag and drop all this other
stuff, yeah, and then graduatedto Ableton in 2004.
And I've been using Abletonsince, and then kind of dabbling
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along with machines, so that'swhat really made me want to go
ahead and get in there, man.
Just oh, you can create things,like you can actually make your
own music, yeah, you know.
So while everybody whileeverybody else was getting like
Xboxes and stuff like that, youknow, my main thing was let me
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go and find myself some studiomonitors and learn how to do
this.
Learn how to you know, um, backwhen Sam Ash was still open.
SPEAKER_07 (30:12):
So you know Sam's motherfucking Radio Shack.
SPEAKER_01 (30:17):
Radio Shack, man.
Radio Shack was one of themwhere we used to always have
this this inside joke wheneverything's wasn't working over
at the uh the bar at a placecalled Shooters.
Anytime the radio uh the musicequipment stuff wouldn't work
because we would get it fromRadio Shack, and we'd be like,
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shout out to Radio Shack becausethey were literally right, they
were literally right there, likeright, probably like not even
500 feet away from the place.
So yeah, man.
SPEAKER_07 (30:56):
That's crazy, that's crazy.
Um, so now you you say Chicago,we said 2011, right?
Right.
So what has been the what whathave you seen that's the
(31:18):
differences between Chicago'smusic scene and a California
music scene?
SPEAKER_01 (31:25):
Oh man, there's some differences there.
Um as far as it goes with a lotof the way that things are done
show-wise.
I remember going to differentshows, and what they would do is
they would have you selltickets, and that was the way
(31:49):
that uh basically that was yourway of being able to rock on
stage.
Like, okay, if you can sell thismany tickets, blah blah on
street, then okay, you can geton that one.
You know, if you're short, thenyou pay whatever was short,
yeah, you know, that kind ofstuff.
(32:10):
Um as far as it went going backto open mics and all of that
kind of stuff as well.
There was always like a waitinglist or you know, something you
had to write off of.
If you really, really wanted toattach your grip, um, there was
many different places that youcould go to out there in
California as well.
(32:31):
You know, anywhere from theairliner club back when that was
open, you know, rest in peacewith the low in theory.
Um, that was probably one of myfavorites.
Um never went to it, but theProject Low Thursdays out there
in Lamer Park.
That one, if you really, reallywanted to test it, it was like
(32:54):
the showtime at the Apollo.
SPEAKER_04 (32:57):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (32:58):
Like you couldn't just walk in there and just be
on some ignorant BS.
Like you had to actually rap.
So that was another spot.
So there's many differentavenues that you could go.
Chicago, what I learned is it'suh it's many other opportunities
(33:24):
to hit open mics as well.
And there's also uh a lot lesspoliticking in certain avenues.
Like if they like you, thenthat's what it is, you know.
Like they followed.
If it's and I'm learning thistoo, like every show that I went
(33:46):
to um in Chicago, if they rockwith you, bro, that's it.
Like it don't matter if it'sraining, it don't matter if it's
um you know snowing, they theyshowing up.
So that was one of the things Icould I could appreciate, and
(34:07):
that's no disrespect to anybodyin California at all, you know,
because we also have that too,where it's like we both want to
see from each angle, we bothwant to see that person succeed.
So, like if a person is notdoing well on the stage or
whatever, or they stumble in orwhat have you, you know, you
(34:30):
both you will you'll see bothsides of them being like, you
know, hey, it's all right, keepgoing, keep going, you know,
that that kind of thing at theopen mics.
Uh the other thing that I didend up seeing a lot was that
there is a certain amount ofjust being willing to work and
(34:55):
cut all the diva stuff out.
SPEAKER_07 (34:57):
Yeah, you know, I love that you said that, bro.
SPEAKER_01 (35:01):
You know, like as far as I'm not going on after
that person, or I'm not gonna,you know, I can't do this
without getting a upfront amountof this, that, and the third.
It's just like dog, if I'm here,I'm ready to work, let's do it,
and and that's the cool partabout it.
And um it's refreshing to see.
(35:25):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_07 (35:26):
Um when when you think about the open mic scene,
um, how much important, in youropinion, how much importance
does it play as far as uhhelping that city find an
(35:51):
identity and also helping theartist find an identity?
SPEAKER_01 (35:58):
So when the artist ends up finding an identity
through the open mics, it's uhone of those things that's a win
for the city, because if it'ssomething that they are behind,
then that kind of shoves outthere into the world something
(36:19):
new.
Either it's something new orsomething that we have already,
but it has a twist that'sinteresting.
That we're thinking, okay,people might get it, they might
not get it, but we're proud ofit, right?
Right, that part.
I love that.
SPEAKER_07 (36:38):
That part, it's ours, right?
You see what I'm saying?
So when you come here, you knowthis is this is our shit.
SPEAKER_01 (36:47):
Right.
Yeah, and that's the same way itis with Cali.
Like, I had left, I hadn't beenback in quite some time.
So when I heard a lot of thenewer stuff that was out there,
I'm like, okay, okay, I can seewhere they're going with this
(37:07):
one.
It took a minute to adjust, justlike it did with the whole like
juvenile situation and all.
But the lingo ended upupgrading, and the way that they
were doing the delivery tocertain beats and things like
that still had like flavors oflike E40 or like the Bay Area,
(37:31):
like you know, you keep thesneaks or what have you.
But then they ended up havingDraco the ruler, you know, rest
in peace, and many otherdifferent styles, you know.
So and it may be polarizing to acertain extent, you know.
We we still had ways to get itaccessible to people through
(37:56):
like Kendrick and many otherdifferent people who are doing
uh kind of like tributes or ornods, but it's the same way out
here in Chicago.
Like at the time, drill musicwas really, really popping, like
when I came out.
So Chief Keep was really big,and you had like you know,
(38:20):
everybody out there.
Um, you can't name them all, butyou know, of course, you get
baby, baby, you know, the listgoes on.
Same thing, you know.
People might not have understoodit at the time, but Chicago was
really big on that.
(38:41):
That was like that's ours.
Yeah, then you started seeingpeople like incorporating all of
that over into their stuff, andthey're not even from.
So, yeah, you know, it's one ofthose things where yeah, open
mics, all of that stuff.
You have the potential to dothings like that.
SPEAKER_07 (39:03):
Yeah.
Um, as a producer, what are yourthoughts on AI?
Producers recall AI andproduction.
SPEAKER_01 (39:19):
AI production, gut feeling is one of those where
I'm not really a fan of itbecause it takes some of the
thing, the things that are bareminimum that you need.
And it just takes it away towhere if you're not careful,
(39:43):
artists can become very lazy.
Not only that, but I noticedwith a lot of that stuff, it
does come off as like verypolished, very well put
together, but soulless in incertain aspects.
I agree.
You know, like there's certainthings that humans can do that a
(40:06):
machine or prompt cannot do.
And one of those things isconnect.
Oh, that is awesome.
You know, like there, you canput a human person can prompt
these words, they can have aperson do uh have the AI do all
(40:29):
the work and write all of thesedifferent uh well-put-together
songs, but they have to comefrom somewhere.
Right.
And that comes from a humanbeing.
So, in order for them to be ableto do all of this, to be able to
connect on a human level, theyneed humans in order for them to
(40:50):
do it.
So I don't really see how thatworks if you want to connect
with the artist or connect withthe music, and you can't one see
them, two, go out to see themlive, you know, because we all
want to be able to at least seeor meet and connect with the
(41:12):
person that we connect withart-wise, or whatever it is that
they're doing.
So unless you're gonna spendmulti-million dollars worth
trying to pull uh a gorillas outof your hat with projectors and
stuff, but you still need youstill need artists, you know,
(41:36):
you still need people to playthe music.
So it's like okay, certainthings they can do, but there's
certain things that humans cando better.
I agree, I agree.
Okay, good point.
SPEAKER_07 (41:53):
Um really appreciate you making a point about they
can't connect.
Humans connect, you know.
Um so speaking on the wholeaspect connections, right?
(42:14):
Kind of it's kind of switchinggears, kind of.
Um what is your definition of ahealthy relationship?
Any type of relationship?
What's your definition of ahealthy relationship?
SPEAKER_01 (42:29):
Uh healthy relationship, something where
both parties are both partiesare able to grow.
Oh, oh, wow, man.
I love that.
I love that.
It's like that's one of thethings.
Um one of those things whereboth of them are able to be safe
(42:53):
around each other or feel safearound each other.
Yeah, the ability to correctanother person in a way where
it's not coming from maliciousintent, but coming from the
(43:13):
desire to see that person bebetter.
Oh, I love that.
I love it, I love that response,bro.
You know, that and being able tobe able to patch things up even
through misunderstandings.
Because, you know, sometimes wemight deliver a message that we
(43:34):
feel like a person may need, andit's just not wrapped up in in
the boat or wrapped up in theway that we would like to say
it.
And they might say it and it'sjust like reckless all over the
place, and the other person endsup hurt.
(43:56):
Being able to come back and belike, you know, hey, it wasn't
from a uh malicious place.
This is what I really meantabout this and that and the
third.
But I can understand that youfelt, you know, uh hurt by the
way that I said it, this and thethird.
And just being able to patchthat up, you know, because if
(44:21):
it's a strong enoughrelationship and a healthy
relationship, then that's notgonna be something that ends up
uh ending it.
Right.
You know, and that that rightthere ends up being a good
thing.
Uh holding another personaccountable, holding each other
accountable as well.
(44:44):
You know, you're sometimespeople feel like, you know, the
definition, and everybody'sdefinition is different, but
they feel like, hey, if I'mtotally 100% in the wrong, you
should definitely roll with me.
Uh you know, so sometimes peoplehave that idea, and it's like,
(45:07):
no, um, I'm not gonna help yougo and bury the body if you
decide to do X, Y, and Z.
You know, this is right, this isa true crime, or the first 48.
So, but right, you know, so it'sreally just one of those things,
(45:28):
you know.
You want them to really be thebest that they can be for
themselves while at the sametime helping you and basically
you helping each other to growto be better people.
I love that.
I love that.
SPEAKER_07 (45:46):
Um, who is your most influential family member?
SPEAKER_01 (45:53):
Oh man, before she passed, uh, my mother, most
influential family member,definitely.
She was like my best friend,like she was the one that always
kept my hand on strike.
Um, as far as it went, she wasone that was also into the
(46:17):
things I was into.
So she would play Madden and endup beating the brakes off me by
like 40.60 points.
Or I'll be up there playing 2Kwith her, and you know, I'll get
some in, and then sometimesshe'll come back, and it's like,
I'm looking at a 60-pointdeficit, and the referee, y'all,
(46:38):
y'all understand this one.
Believe in yourself, believe inyourself.
You know, that that part of thegame.
So, you know, when you'regetting whooped by your mama so
bad in 2K that even the coach istrying to, you know, help you
out.
But yeah, so um, she was intomusic, so anything that I was
(47:02):
into, she was checking in on it.
I remember when uh she first letme go ahead and watch Eight
Mile.
And she was like, all right, youknow, I'm gonna let you go ahead
and watch that and stuff.
But even then she started likingM and M, you know, you might not
have liked everything, but youknow, she started liking that.
(47:24):
Yeah.
And uh that's where I really gota chance to start uh introducing
her to some new stuff as well.
So like everything from AC aloneand Project Flow to like, you
know, certain aspects.
She she didn't even know at thetime that uh DJ Jazzy Jeff was
(47:47):
still making music.
Get the fuck out of you.
Yeah, because you know, when umDJ Jazzy Jeff and Fresh Prince
had, you know, they broke up andall of that stuff.
A lot of people just ended upgoing elsewhere and what have
you.
So when the return of themagnificent uh series ended up
(48:08):
coming back, that's when I wasable to go ahead and show her
some of that.
Yeah.
That's dope.
SPEAKER_07 (48:17):
That's that's phenomenal, man.
That's um I I I think it's Ithink it's uh it's a beautiful
thing to have to come across aperson in your life that you
feel like, like you said, wetruly connect with.
You know what I'm saying?
Like you like a person thathates you, you know, because
(48:39):
everybody don't get everybody.
Because everybody ain't meant toget everybody.
You see what I'm saying?
Um, so I think it's a blessingto come across those people, and
then I'm and maybe make sure yourest in peace, then I'm glad
that you know your mom had thateffect on you.
Um so speaking of connectingwith people, I got a dame
(49:00):
question for you, right?
Maybe a hard one.
Um, you got somebody that youare I'm setting, I'm I'm
painting the picture right.
You have that person that youhave that person that you
connect with, right?
You love them, you like beingaround them, you know.
As they say, y'all finish eachy'all finish each other's
(49:21):
sentences and all that type ofstuff, right?
Right.
Here's the one thing no matterhow much they shower or what
type of deodorant they use, theywill always be musty.
Can you stay with them?
SPEAKER_01 (49:42):
You know, there's there's probably some kind of
deodorant in this universethat's strong enough to help,
hopefully.
What if it's not?
SPEAKER_04 (49:54):
What I'm saying, what if it's not?
SPEAKER_01 (49:56):
What if it's not, you know, but if you love that
person, man, despite them beingmusty, I think that's a
beautiful thing.
Because you're seeing you'reshowing you're showing that you
can love this person for whothey are and not what they smell
like.
And um, yeah, that's that's atough one to be in, but yeah,
(50:20):
man, hats off to you.
Hats off to you, definitely,man.
You are a real one.
Right.
I mean I mean, you can take itto kind of conventions and
they'll blend in just fine.
SPEAKER_07 (50:35):
I mean, so it's not gonna be I love to ask that
question, man, because um umlike like you know it's humor,
but also man, you gotta thinkabout that, man.
Like really, you gotta thinkabout it, like what if you have
that person, it's like, but it'sjust this one thing.
(50:57):
Just this one thing that theycan't even help it.
You see what I'm saying?
Right.
What do you do?
You know, right.
Um I wanna I I wanna say thismuch, man, um, before before we
wrap up.
Uh what I said at the beginning,I I I authentic authentically
(51:18):
meant it.
I really appreciate meeting you,bro.
You know what I'm saying?
Sitting there in Kitty's, atKitty's cocktail lounge, um, and
then here you start singing.
It's like my my head just liftedup.
I'm like, oh, what the fuck?
You know what I'm saying?
And it was dope.
It was dope.
And uh, and then I didn't wantto speak on uh the project that
(51:41):
we got coming up, so I don'twant to put that out there just
yet.
I want to bust people over thehead with it, man.
Um, but I appreciate your craft,man, and I appreciate the
conversation, the conversationthat we had coming home from the
studio.
I appreciated that too.
Um, so uh let the people knowwhat you got coming up and what
(52:03):
they can look forward to.
SPEAKER_01 (52:06):
Man, we got another one actually happening.
Uh Sunday service at Kitty's outthere in Blue Island uh from 5
to 10.
We have pizza.
Uh we have good drinks, goodbartenders, good vibes, Johnny
Hafden, everybody that's there,Tom Boss, Jay Will, and Valerie.
(52:30):
I mean, butter, man, lyric.
We just gotta have a ball, man,straight up.
It's dope.
Peachy, can't forget PG.
PG Boss.
SPEAKER_07 (52:44):
Yeah, so it really is a dope time, bro.
It is it's a fucking phenomenaltime.
Like, for people that's reallyinto live music and that energy
of live music, they need to comecheck out Sunday service at
Kitty's Cocktail Lounge.
Uh, I wanna let me put the theaddress out there so people will
(53:05):
know.
Uh January 4th, first one of theyear.
Oh, that's oh, that's gonna bethe first one?
First one of the year, January4th.
Hold on for one second.
Okay, hold on, hold on.
SPEAKER_09 (53:23):
Oh, oh, okay.
SPEAKER_07 (53:28):
Hold on, I just wanna get so yeah, it's a
kitty's cocktail lounge, 2146Vermont Street in Blue Island.
And what time do y'all kick itoff, bro?
SPEAKER_01 (53:40):
Uh, they kick it off from five o'clock.
We end it off at 10 o'clock.
SPEAKER_09 (53:47):
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (53:48):
Yeah, so anybody who uh loves to jam, man, feel free.
Um, if you play an instrument,feel free to come on out, jam
with us.
If you sing, hey, come on out,jam with us.
It's pretty much, man.
No need to be nervous, just goout there and have some fun.
Uh, personally, for me, singingin the shower really came in
(54:11):
handy, so man.
SPEAKER_07 (54:16):
Yo, and and I recorded that motherfucking bear
down song you was doing, bro.
Oh, yeah.
Hey, hey, listen, listen to me,bro.
I'm not gonna say, I'm not gonnaeven say if.
I'm gonna say when the bears goto the fucking super bowl, we
(54:37):
gotta put that shit out.
Well, you gotta put that shitout.
That is fucking dope.
That is dope.
That is dope.
I'm telling you, man, everythingfalls into place, man.
That that's that's my my myhonest belief.
Everything falls into place, andI'm telling you, that song is
gonna be dope.
Um, thank you for being on thepodcast, man.
(55:02):
Real talk.
Um, I'm looking forward to whatwe got coming up.
Uh looking forward to what y'allgot coming up at Kitty's for
Sunday service.
Dope.
City gonna be in for.
I honestly believe it.
Real talk.
Yes, sir.
Uh, anything you want to leavethe people with before we get up
(55:23):
out of here?
SPEAKER_01 (55:25):
Oh man, hey, most definitely, man.
Everybody take care of eachother.
Um, pretty much spread the love.
As uh one one artist said, ACLoney said, love life, let it
love you back, you know.
SPEAKER_07 (55:44):
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
That's all we can do, man.
That's that's that's what weshould be doing, man.
That's what we should be doing.
All right, bro.
I'm gonna get up with you, man.
Have a good day, and uh besmooth, man.
Hey, definitely.
Thank you for having me.
No problem, man.
Peace.
(56:05):
Hold on, hold on.
Yes, sir.
That was my man, Teddy.
And like I said, y'all, I don'tI don't want to speak too much
on this, but we got somethingcoming up in the works.
It's a love, it's it's it's it'sa lovely project.
It's a lovely project.
That's all I'm gonna say.
(56:27):
But that's for now.
We're gonna get into the DJ mixum of the podcast.
Like I always tell people, DJs,if you want your 10 to 12 minute
mix play on the Shist Podcast,you can email it to DJMonsTerra
at gmail.com.
Uh, make sure you put your namein your mix, let the people know
(56:47):
who you are.
Uh, you can put in there whereyou're from, all the type of
stuff.
But just make sure that it'sdope.
All right?
So we're gonna get into it,y'all.
That is this is the mix.
SPEAKER_12 (58:22):
What a glass clap with gold starble, not fast with
me, but within the bottle, likea dark bit of old bit of largo
within the dust, got the cargofor bottle with waiting.
SPEAKER_11 (59:11):
We here to win.
Yellows, I'm not the light forthe party, I'm responding to the
paws, that align with the laws.
We mentality is testing away.
Literally, that's the win is meand all four, so they say that
I'ma go, but that I go ignore,cause the goat can be
slaughtered and cooked up andhurry and ate up in a hurry, and
that I can afford, but neverignored that me called something
(59:33):
from the Quran and maybe aboutCorinthians but take a like that
group you correct for one, andeither way, knocking down by the
dungeon while it is.
They understand the wealth isthe biggest going down and
stuff.
SPEAKER_06 (01:00:01):
We are wall, we can tell, I excel, then the bell.
SPEAKER_02 (01:00:09):
The mic is contacted, I attract clientele.
My mic check is life or death,breathing a sniper's breath.
I exhale the yellow smoke orfood of three.
SPEAKER_07 (01:00:56):
DJ my souls to ride a couple.
DJ you are the fire.
SPEAKER_02 (01:00:59):
The food up to the four, turn the face up.
Not stories by each of us.
Analyze, drop a true L.
And L from the L's cool of thewill.
You feel it like grill, it ain'thard to tell.
I keep the skill like shekilled, holds a fill.
Vocabulary's built, I'm ill.
Platformatic, I'm free free toslam it like I cheat.
Jam like a tech with correcttechniques.
(01:01:20):
So analyze me, surprise me, butcan't magmatize me.
I'll leave a froze like heroinin your nose.
Not to flap well, it ain't hardto tell.
SPEAKER_10 (01:01:48):
Yeah, yeah.
Got the Grizzly Lock from theStizzy, pop a clizzy 160 down a
one Wizzy trunk.
On the cruise through theavenue, while my labels are five
models of us, lose my labelsthat's on the UI lost the hub
cabbage back to the shack.
Came back in the watch that istaking dabby face, baby cabbage,
(01:02:12):
baby yellows.
Uh bird cherry reddish face,shot the dealer.
For the squealers with a vestfor the killers, nothing less,
cause it's filler in the beat.
Oh mama goes on the face whenI'm on the one beat.
(01:02:37):
I just love the pants.
I'm trying to live.
(01:03:02):
Almost came home with theGrammy.
I see bringing home three forthe family.
Somebody stop me with that.
Uptown, uptown.
You know you're feeling thattrue.
(01:03:23):
Uncle you can dance to niggagive me a look.
Take your glance in the mouthwith yours.
But both hands in the mouth withyours and drink me like you're
supposed to walk.
I'm loving pop, I ain't evenbaby to make scores just laugh
in the spot.
What are you saying name upagain?
And I know you can win.
I'm a military school.
It's gonna be black.
(01:03:51):
Go that way.
It's gonna be my life.
SPEAKER_06 (01:03:58):
But it's so right.
SPEAKER_09 (01:04:08):
Come on.
Sricker than your average.
Pop a twist, cabbage off andstink.
Let's don't make kids think.
Shout out to BIG Detroitplayers.
unknown (01:04:20):
It's a head right, diggy there, a night.
Papa been smooth since days areunder rose.
Never lose, never choose two.
SPEAKER_09 (01:04:26):
Bruce, cruise, who do something to us?
SPEAKER_03 (01:04:31):
The dopest DJ you heard thus far.
SPEAKER_09 (01:04:37):
I squeeze three and your cherry and three bang every
MC easily.
Take that recently, frightenain't saying nothing.
So I just stick my peaks.
unknown (01:04:47):
Come on.
SPEAKER_05 (01:04:58):
Sometimes the word is hypnotized.
SPEAKER_07 (01:05:00):
I would say shout out to bad boys, but all that
crazy shit going on.
SPEAKER_05 (01:05:04):
That's why the gold can you sound like it's a good
thing.
SPEAKER_07 (01:05:06):
Still hip hop.
SPEAKER_05 (01:05:14):
That's just why the gold and your soul.
SPEAKER_09 (01:05:16):
I put off and why on to DK and Y.
Miami DC, preferred VersaillesG.
Off in the hoodie border withMosquito.
Every cutie with the booty boardof coochie.
Meaning who's really the shit.
Rod, beta, Frank White, push mesticks on the maxes.
LX, four and a half.
unknown (01:05:34):
Bulletproof glass tip called gangsters packs.
Gone blast, squeeze first, askquestions last.
SPEAKER_09 (01:05:39):
That's how most of these so-called gangsters pass.
Rap about you on the frogs.
Give some bras, menage toirs,sex and expensive cars.
Still leave you on the papers.
Condo paid for, no callpayments.
At my arrayman, no for thecleaning.
Your daughter's tired up in theBrooklyn basement.
Fix it, not guilty.
That's how I say too.
(01:06:00):
Thank you.
Richard and Richcoming.
SPEAKER_05 (01:06:03):
We eat, we get we need to sleep.
Sometimes the day is hip andtie.
unknown (01:06:14):
Uh-huh.
Sometimes your words aresleeping.
SPEAKER_08 (01:06:25):
Girls, rub on your city.
Yeah, I said it rub on yourcity.
New York City gritty committee,pity the food that acts kitty in
the midst of the calm, thewitty.
I want to own DJ Mons to Rob.
Coming straight from Chicago.
(01:06:49):
Without the goal, we so wrappedaround the world.
But when I'm in the body outthere supporting shit podcasts,
the boom control the game likeindividuals think it then speaks
like a way to block shots.
Get the fuck up.
(01:07:09):
Simon says, get the fuck up.
Put your hands to the sky.
(01:07:31):
Let's get your beef, you put himin the mausoleum and shut up the
time barnett.
Somebody even say to someone.
What is Bryce talking about now?
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Whether you're riding a train ora Lexus, this is for either all
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Yo, we have a very special guestto the podcast this week, as
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always, as always.
And the reason and the thingthat makes this brother so
special to the podcast is I feellike this was a situation where
the universe put me where Ineeded to be.
So, not to drag it out, but uh Iwent to my man uh Lyric
Versatile Sunday service over atKitty's Cocktail Lounge.
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Um, nice vibe, sitting therechilling, listen to the music.
And uh and this brother walksin, man, hops on the mic, and
they start singing.
He had a phenomenal voice.
Then he started rhyming.
So I'm like, oh, snap, talented,very talented brother.
And I was blessed that thisbrother had a very good
personality.
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So I was able to chop it up withhim and talk about some future
project stuff.
We're not gonna talk about thatright now, but also asked him to
get on the podcast and he wascool with it.
So, with no further ado, I wantto introduce the vocalist, the
MC, and the producer, my man,Teddy.
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Y'all give it up for Teddy,y'all.
SPEAKER_01 (01:48):
Hey, how's it going, everyone?
SPEAKER_07 (01:50):
Yes, sir, yes, sir, yes, sir.
How you feel, man?
I'm pretty good, pretty good.
And how about yourself?
I'm good, man.
I'm good, no complaints, man.
Just over here drinking my tealike an old man.
Well, uh or or Asian prophet,you know what I'm saying?
Not to be, not trying to beracist.
Um just vibing, just vibing.
(02:12):
So um, on on the podcast, man,we always like to check in with
our guests, man.
And since you are the guest,this, the phenomenal guest this
week, man, I want to ask you,I'm asking you this question.
And it seems like when I askthis question, artists they like
to talk about the projectsthey're working on.
(02:32):
But when I ask this question,and I say, What are you working
on?
I'm asking, what are you workingon internally, mentally,
emotionally?
So, what are you working on thisweek, brother?
SPEAKER_01 (02:45):
Oh, that's always a constant thing.
So, pretty much just how to stayconsistent, how to block the
outer noise, and just reallyfocus on your your inner voice.
Being able to like that, yeah,just really being able to tap
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into that that inner knowing,you know, like that inner voice,
that intuition.
And uh, pretty much, man, justbeing mindful, just trying to
stay in that moment, stayingpresent.
SPEAKER_07 (03:23):
I like that.
I like that.
And and it's it's interestingthat you say that, man, because
I think sometimes when you ask,when you ask people, um are they
in tune with themselves, umsometimes people don't know what
it means, you know, to really uhhave a to really have a good
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understanding of how you'refeminine, you know, to really
have a good understanding ofwhat's what's making you happy
at the moment, what's making youirritated at the moment, all
that kind of stuff, you know,because I think in this in this
day and age, we get so focusedon the other stuff, you know
(04:09):
what I'm saying?
Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_01 (04:14):
So go ahead.
Yeah, it's definitely one ofthose things that's important,
especially nowadays.
It's so much stuff that's goingon, and so many different things
to react to versus to respondto.
SPEAKER_07 (04:31):
And elaborate on that.
Elaborate, you said you said toreact to and to respond to,
elaborate on that.
SPEAKER_01 (04:40):
Yeah, so basically, a lot of the stuff that is on
the external, if we let it, itcan end up messing with the
internal.
And a lot of the stuff that'sgoing on, nine times out of ten
doesn't really fall fall, itdoesn't really fall under
something that's under ourcontrol.
(05:03):
And so we just become reactive.
So if we're not careful withthat, we start reacting to more
stuff, draining ourselves, andthen not being able to just like
take a step back and respond.
It's like, okay, well, thishappened, this happened out
here, this happened over here,somebody said this, somebody did
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this, versus being the onethat's just reacting to it,
like, you know, and uh steppingback and being able to be like,
okay, well, all of thathappened, but how am I gonna
respond to that?
Right, you know, how do I chooseto move forward knowing this
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information?
And and that really helps out alot in the long run because no
matter what's happening on theoutside, you keep your peace and
you're able to make betterdecisions.
SPEAKER_07 (06:02):
That makes sense.
That makes a lot of sense, and Iand I appreciate you saying
that, man, because um I feellike a lot of times, especially
in our community, uh we do justreact.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, like we're doing we'redoing more reacting than
responding.
And to me, I feel likeresponding takes more thought.
(06:25):
You see what I'm saying?
Right.
Reacting is just like you saidsomething slick, I just want the
I just went with the first thingthat came to mind.
You see what I'm saying?
Like, I threw a motherfuckingwater bottle at your compared to
right, yeah.
You know, like compared toresponding and being like, Oh,
(06:46):
you call my mama, bitch.
I need this water, you know whatI'm saying?
Like, I'm not gonna throw mywater bottle at you, you know
what I'm saying?
But let me try to come up withsomething very clever about
trying and whatever, you know.
I don't know, you know what I'msaying?
SPEAKER_01 (07:01):
But just taking a step back, like you know, a lot
of that stuff is stuff thatthey're having problems with on
the internal, right?
And it's just starting to likecome out, and it's coming out
like towards you.
So now you're having to stepback, be like, okay, this
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person's acting like this.
But I know it doesn't haveanything to do with me.
Like, it might be a lot of stuffthat's going on on their
internal, like whatever's goingon with them on the inside, and
this is just how they choose togo ahead and release that or
(07:42):
even direct that.
It might be misdirected moretimes than not.
But then it's like, okay, well,if I don't add any fuel to this
fire, then the flame dies out.
I can go ahead and just chooseto not respond.
You know, now this person'seither going to wear themselves
(08:04):
out talking to the wall, orpretty much, man, it just ends
up being you move on, thisperson's still stuck with
whatever it is that they'redealing with.
Or you could look at it from theperspective of compassion, you
know, maybe talk to the person.
(08:26):
You're gonna have to reallydiscern whether or not that
person's in a mental capacity todo that.
But you know, there's manydifferent uh ways that you can
respond versus just react.
SPEAKER_07 (08:41):
I love that.
I love that, and I kind of feellike you should be the person
that's drinking the Asian profittea that I'm drinking right now
because you land down some jamson us right now, brother.
You know what I'm saying?
Yes, sir.
SPEAKER_01 (08:57):
Um it just comes along with being being on this
life journey, man, like andlearning from many different
people and just learning fromthe experiences.
SPEAKER_07 (09:09):
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
So let me ask you this, man.
Where where are you originallyfrom?
SPEAKER_01 (09:14):
Oh man, originally I'm from everywhere.
I I had like military parents,so both of them.
Uh one was born and raised inChicago, uh, the other one was
born and raised out there inTexas.
So they met each other in themilitary, and um, I was born out
(09:34):
in Nuremberg, Germany.
Oh, out there in Bavaria.
Okay, yeah, so pretty much, man,we bounced around from pretty
much wherever they stationed.
So we went from Germany toKansas to Alaska, then to
(09:55):
California, and uh from there,from California, we stayed there
the most.
It was like about 16 years.
And uh from from there, man,after that, I moved out here
back in uh 2011.
SPEAKER_07 (10:11):
Oh, that's that's awesome because when we were
talking, I thought you would, Ithought it was just California.
I didn't know it was fuckingGermany and Kansas and all these
other places.
That's awesome, man.
Um how do you think thosedifferent environments shaped
(10:35):
the adult you've become to thisday?
SPEAKER_01 (10:38):
Man, there was so much diversity.
One thing about the military,too, was that when it came to
like the racial tensions and allof that kind of stuff, yeah, we
really didn't see a whole lot ofthat.
And a lot of the stuff that washappening at that time, because
it was like back in the 90s, um,anybody who was really trying to
(11:00):
start that, they'd end upsquashing that real quick.
And I noticed that a lot,especially when I was out there
in California when I was livingthere.
You know, anybody tried to startthat kind of stuff, it was like
everybody was just everybody inthat community would end up just
stopping that.
Like, hey, that's not what we'reon, you know.
(11:21):
Yeah, fell out with that.
SPEAKER_09 (11:23):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (11:24):
You know, so if the person didn't really get the
memo, then they had a problemwith not just what they owned,
but they also had it with therest of the community.
So yeah, man, we used to justplay ball.
I used to live out there in thehigh desert, San Bernardino,
Barstow, California.
SPEAKER_07 (11:41):
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (11:41):
So, you know, shout out to uh Leolani, because you
know, Pomona.
I was like, dog, somebody cameout from Pomona and uh did it
big, man.
Out there on tour with Deltronand stuff.
So that that was reallyinspiring to me.
SPEAKER_07 (11:57):
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (11:58):
Um, shout out to Psychedelic as well.
You know, um, everybody prettymuch just inspired me,
especially when I was out therein California.
SPEAKER_07 (12:10):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (12:11):
So many different vibes, so many different
perspectives and ways of beingcreative.
For me, when I moved from Alaskadown to California, before I had
moved there, I had uh heard NewBandre's um Ain't Nothing But a
(12:32):
G thing out there in the nurse'soffice in the third grade.
SPEAKER_07 (12:37):
Wait, hold on the last thing.
Hold on.
You heard ain't nothing but a Gthing in the third grade in the
nurse's station.
How is that, bro?
How?
SPEAKER_01 (12:50):
So at the time they had radio stations and all of
that.
Okay.
You know, they had back thenthey had radio edits and
everything.
But yeah, somehow it just endedup being something that landed
on the radio station.
And at the time I wasn't feelingwell, so when I heard it, I'm
like, oh, this is dope.
(13:11):
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, I don't know whatthis is, you know, because we
weren't really exposed to a lotof hip hop in the family.
You know, it was mostly like RBor it might be some stuff like
Alice and Chains.
Well, we weren't really aroundthat one, but I found out my
folks had those records, CurtisBlow and Beastie Boys, you know,
(13:34):
and stuff like that.
So when they had a when we weretalking about them having a
whole record collection, I meanrecord collection, almost like
400 and something albums.
And they weren't reallycollectors, you could tell,
because Amon mainly, she had allher stuff with the tags, like
(13:56):
the little stickers and stufflike that.
So I think that just came fromthe background of my grandmother
being a DJ out there in Chicagoat the time.
Uh serious, bro?
Yeah, she was uh she was onewith DJ, uh Peggy Ellis.
Uh so yeah, man.
(14:16):
Uh music was definitely in thefamily as far as it went.
So all of this stuff, all thepeople that I've met, it just
helped me to be well-rounded,but also to see things from many
different perspectives.
SPEAKER_07 (14:34):
And that I feel like that's um that's awesome to have
in your skill set, you know, theability to uh to appreciate
diversity, um, not just inpeople, but also in music.
Because sometimes I think we getuh kind of bogged down into
(14:55):
listening to just one type ofmusic.
You know what I'm saying?
It's just all trap, all rap, allRB, all rock, you know.
But when you have people thatreally can come along and they
have a genuine uh love for alltypes of music, because it
resonates like this resonateswith them in different ways.
(15:17):
I think that's that's abeautiful thing to have, man.
It's just something about thatthat I that I feel uh said
something about your soul.
You get what I'm saying?
Like it's just something in you.
Um so would you say that thethird grade situation was your
(15:40):
introduction to hip-hop?
Or do you think like it came ona on a on a more um which word
I'm looking for?
Impactful moment.
SPEAKER_01 (15:53):
Actually, earlier on, I would say when we were
living in Kansas out there, umthe main ones we would be
listening to was like WillSmith, you know, you'd have
Fresh Prince, uh Jeff.
And um there was another onethat was out there.
(16:16):
Uh, what hammer?
Hammer at the time.
MC Hammer, yeah.
Like before, you know, when the90s started hitting people, it
was like, man, you bump MCHammer around us, you getting
stomped out, you know, type ofstuff.
Yeah.
MC Hammer was really one ofthose uh positive dudes.
(16:37):
Ironically enough, with Hammer,the fact that he was doing like
a lot of the putting people onand doing the corporate, you
know, sponsorships and stufflike that, kind of kind of got
killed for that.
But you look at it now in 2025,everybody's doing the exact same
(16:58):
thing.
So it's almost like, you know,so it's almost like, you know,
one person has to kind of takethe hit in order for people to
kind of look at it and be likelater on, oh man, you know, we
really was on to something.
Yeah.
You know, for our generation, itwas hammered for um people
before us.
It probably was like Prince, youknow, telling people about the
(17:22):
streaming and all of that andkeeping everything physical and
going on tours and things.
And now we're kind of looking atthat and saying to ourselves,
man, you know what?
That dude was really right.
SPEAKER_07 (17:36):
Like he was, he was, you know, so sorry to cut you
off.
Like, I think I definitely feellike Prince was on to something,
right?
Um, however, it's when it comesto streaming, I think that um it
(17:56):
has its pros and its cons,right?
Right.
So like um, yeah, wheneverything was upset, um the
artist was able, especially likeindependent artists, so I think
these that was selling it outthe triangle, you know what I'm
saying?
So you thinking you're lookingat it like if if his if he's if
(18:20):
if he was telling the truthabout the numbers that he was
doing, that's some good money,you know what I'm saying?
Because you're making CDs islike at the least 11 bucks, at
the least, you know what I'msaying?
Right.
So if you selling, you know, ahundred CDs in a day, I'm not
even gonna try to do fuckingmath on it, I'm not, but if you
(18:40):
sell 100 CDs in it in a day andyou're getting 11 bucks off of
you bring in decent money andyou keep it on that, you're
keeping all that, right?
Now, the only thing that I thinkuh wasn't the I guess it depends
on your hustle.
For you to reach the amount ofpeople that you can reach with
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streaming, you would have todrive from one city to the next
city within the same day.
You see what I'm saying?
Right to try to, you know, sopeople can actually get that
physical copy.
So I think now when it comes tostreaming, you have somebody
that's in California that canupload their music to one of
(19:24):
these platforms and it can beheard in Chicago, Kansas,
Germany, Japan, you know,London, Australia.
Right, right.
It goes it really gets throughfaster.
Right, right.
So, but as far as the as far asa monetary game, I don't
(19:44):
necessarily think the artistsare seeing that.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you're not like they'renot getting rich off this shit.
You see what I'm saying?
Right.
They're getting they're gettingnoticed off of it.
Um, so I I I think it has itspros and its cons.
Um But I do think about thewhole concept of changing the
(20:07):
culture, right?
So when you when you think aboutthe term change the culture,
what do you think about?
What comes to mind?
SPEAKER_01 (20:19):
Change the culture.
Well, usually when you'rechanging a culture, you're
changing either a train ofthought or you're changing uh
behavior.
SPEAKER_07 (20:37):
I like that.
I like that.
But I but I do I do think thatthe train of thought comes
before the change of behavior,though.
That's what I was saying.
Yeah.
Um so when you say that, I thinkabout um the first time that I
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heard Gucci Man on the radio.
Right.
And before that, I was like, nodisrespect to Gucci Man
whatsoever.
However, before I heard him onthe radio, anybody that really
(21:21):
sounded in the community that Iwas in, and the circle that I
ran with, anybody that soundedlike that on a record, you they
clowned them because theysounded like they were slow.
You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01 (21:36):
I remember that was the time.
Um that was probably aroundabout the time when a lot of the
southern uh music was comingout.
Not coming out, but reallygetting notice, notice like that
for the trap, the drill, theother stuff in the 2000s.
Don't get me wrong, there waslike phenomenal artists out
(22:00):
there in the South, way beforethat.
Like Scarface, you know, yeah,you'd have Outcast and everybody
else that was out.
Yeah, but um, when they starteddoing that old or what have you,
it was one of those things thata lot of people were having a
(22:20):
hard time getting used to.
SPEAKER_07 (22:22):
Yeah, I was one of those people.
SPEAKER_01 (22:25):
Yeah, I was like, man, hey, being in high school
and hearing hive by juvenile, itkind of threw me off.
I'm like, huh?
What is he saying?
I have no idea, you know.
But luckily, I had some peoplethat were out there that were
from Louisiana, and they wereexplaining it to me.
(22:48):
So, like, I was lucky to havethat kind of reference.
Not too many people had that.
Right.
So then it was sounding crazy,and then for myself, it was
like, okay, it sounds crazy, butthe way that they're explaining
it to me, okay, I I can get thisnow.
It's not as, you know, one wayas I thought it would be.
SPEAKER_07 (23:10):
Right, right.
The diversity, the diversity,right?
There's like, I'm I'm I'm tryingto see it from a different lens.
You know what I'm saying?
To try to get somebody else'sperspective on how they're
living and what's their reality.
You know right.
And and I feel like I feel likeyou still have to appreciate it
(23:36):
because a person was able, aperson was able to take what was
in their head and put it on a ona record.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
So it's it's one thing to takewhat you're thinking about and
be able to put it on a recordand just fucking say it, you
know.
(23:56):
Um, people out here gettingrobbed in my neighborhood,
people out here, you know, uh,you know, whatever, smoking
drugs in my neighborhood.
But it's another thing to put itonto a record and to be able to
stay within the pocket and tomake it rhyme and to make it
sound a certain way.
So that's why I haveappreciation for all artists.
(24:18):
You know what I'm saying?
It may not be my type of music,but I do have that appreciation
for artists because you do haveto think about delivery, you do
have to think about how manyshould I should I keep this
amount of words in thatsentence?
Should I say it like this andwoo-woo woo, you know, so yeah,
I I definitely appreciate it.
(24:40):
Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (24:43):
Go ahead.
Yeah, it's it's one of thosethings that makes me think to a
lot of artists that are out now,like that are doing different
stuff.
Yeah, uh, one of the guys,Bruiser Wolf, like his cadence
(25:04):
is one of those that's likereally unique to him, the way
that he does it.
But the bars that he puts in andthe way that he delivers it,
it's like my goodness, bro.
Like, you know, you're sittingup here and you're like, man, on
the surface, it sounds like, youknow, um old school pimping.
(25:27):
But you know, something sosimple ends up hitting, you
know, uh, what is it?
Drug addicts remind me of BJs.
They play with needles and youknow, that kind of stuff.
I'm like, bro.
You know, losing is dope.
(25:48):
You know, it might not be, itmight not be everybody's cup of
tea as far as it goes with howto deliver and all of the other
stuff.
But this dude, when you'relistening to it, bro, this this
is bars.
So it's the same way, I'm prettysure with everything, you know,
everybody has their preferencesand the way that they uh they
(26:10):
resonate with different musicand different artists.
SPEAKER_07 (26:14):
Yeah.
Um when did you start?
Uh when did you get to the pointwhere you say, you know what,
what I wanna I wanna make Iwanna make this music too.
I want to create too.
SPEAKER_01 (26:33):
That was freshman year 2000 over in Barstow High.
Oh man, that was when I wasseeing a lot of people doing
freestyles and they were kickingciphers and going into battles
and stuff like that.
But as teens, you don't reallyknow too much about what you're
doing, except for the ones whowas like really, really into it.
(26:57):
Um high school for us, hometownheroes was like hieroglyphics,
or you would have like livinglegends, or you would have say
trans this, you know,rhymesayers atmosphere, you
know, all of that kind of stuff.
So when I'm watching thesepeople in class and they're just
(27:18):
rapping and stuff, you know, andthey're like, yeah.
And I thought to myself, this iseasy, like I can do this, right?
And they were like, Really, man?
Just what's the freestyle being?
And I didn't know what afreestyle was, so all I was
doing at that point was justlike pointing out something and
(27:41):
then just start rhyming aboutit.
Oh snap, you know, and um at thetime, that's when I started
going, okay, I'm gonna see if Ican write this and that.
At the time, they had a dude uhnamed Proverb 8.6, Chris Cully.
You know, he was basically thebest uh rapper in the school,
(28:04):
but considered that uhpsychedelic, he was also one of
those dudes up there with themercenary crew, and uh then
there was uh another cat whoactually I was so proud to see
later on in life.
Who I got into a battle with uhRonnie, uh Ronnie Driscoll.
(28:30):
And uh that was the first timebeing in a battle and basically
falling flat, right?
Come to find out full circleyears later, he ends up battling
human.
And I'm like, this is dope.
The same cat that came from highschool, you know.
But uh yeah, I started playingwith a tape recorder, a PS2, uh,
(28:56):
MTV music generator, and atelevision set, and that's
basically where I just said, youknow, I'm gonna start making
beats.
I still have the tape.
So you know, back then, yeah, Istill got the tape, man, like
right there in the deck.
But um yeah, man, and then Istarted graduating over to
(29:19):
Magics, and there was a hip-hopmusic maker where where
basically you learn how to likedrag and drop all this other
stuff, yeah, and then graduatedto Ableton in 2004.
And I've been using Abletonsince, and then kind of dabbling
(29:41):
along with machines, so that'swhat really made me want to go
ahead and get in there, man.
Just oh, you can create things,like you can actually make your
own music, yeah, you know.
So while everybody whileeverybody else was getting like
Xboxes and stuff like that, youknow, my main thing was let me
(30:03):
go and find myself some studiomonitors and learn how to do
this.
Learn how to you know, um, backwhen Sam Ash was still open.
SPEAKER_07 (30:12):
So you know Sam's motherfucking Radio Shack.
SPEAKER_01 (30:17):
Radio Shack, man.
Radio Shack was one of themwhere we used to always have
this this inside joke wheneverything's wasn't working over
at the uh the bar at a placecalled Shooters.
Anytime the radio uh the musicequipment stuff wouldn't work
because we would get it fromRadio Shack, and we'd be like,
(30:40):
shout out to Radio Shack becausethey were literally right, they
were literally right there, likeright, probably like not even
500 feet away from the place.
So yeah, man.
SPEAKER_07 (30:56):
That's crazy, that's crazy.
Um, so now you you say Chicago,we said 2011, right?
Right.
So what has been the what whathave you seen that's the
(31:18):
differences between Chicago'smusic scene and a California
music scene?
SPEAKER_01 (31:25):
Oh man, there's some differences there.
Um as far as it goes with a lotof the way that things are done
show-wise.
I remember going to differentshows, and what they would do is
they would have you selltickets, and that was the way
(31:49):
that uh basically that was yourway of being able to rock on
stage.
Like, okay, if you can sell thismany tickets, blah blah on
street, then okay, you can geton that one.
You know, if you're short, thenyou pay whatever was short,
yeah, you know, that kind ofstuff.
(32:10):
Um as far as it went going backto open mics and all of that
kind of stuff as well.
There was always like a waitinglist or you know, something you
had to write off of.
If you really, really wanted toattach your grip, um, there was
many different places that youcould go to out there in
California as well.
(32:31):
You know, anywhere from theairliner club back when that was
open, you know, rest in peacewith the low in theory.
Um, that was probably one of myfavorites.
Um never went to it, but theProject Low Thursdays out there
in Lamer Park.
That one, if you really, reallywanted to test it, it was like
(32:54):
the showtime at the Apollo.
SPEAKER_04 (32:57):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (32:58):
Like you couldn't just walk in there and just be
on some ignorant BS.
Like you had to actually rap.
So that was another spot.
So there's many differentavenues that you could go.
Chicago, what I learned is it'suh it's many other opportunities
(33:24):
to hit open mics as well.
And there's also uh a lot lesspoliticking in certain avenues.
Like if they like you, thenthat's what it is, you know.
Like they followed.
If it's and I'm learning thistoo, like every show that I went
(33:46):
to um in Chicago, if they rockwith you, bro, that's it.
Like it don't matter if it'sraining, it don't matter if it's
um you know snowing, they theyshowing up.
So that was one of the things Icould I could appreciate, and
(34:07):
that's no disrespect to anybodyin California at all, you know,
because we also have that too,where it's like we both want to
see from each angle, we bothwant to see that person succeed.
So, like if a person is notdoing well on the stage or
whatever, or they stumble in orwhat have you, you know, you
(34:30):
both you will you'll see bothsides of them being like, you
know, hey, it's all right, keepgoing, keep going, you know,
that that kind of thing at theopen mics.
Uh the other thing that I didend up seeing a lot was that
there is a certain amount ofjust being willing to work and
(34:55):
cut all the diva stuff out.
SPEAKER_07 (34:57):
Yeah, you know, I love that you said that, bro.
SPEAKER_01 (35:01):
You know, like as far as I'm not going on after
that person, or I'm not gonna,you know, I can't do this
without getting a upfront amountof this, that, and the third.
It's just like dog, if I'm here,I'm ready to work, let's do it,
and and that's the cool partabout it.
And um it's refreshing to see.
(35:25):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_07 (35:26):
Um when when you think about the open mic scene,
um, how much important, in youropinion, how much importance
does it play as far as uhhelping that city find an
(35:51):
identity and also helping theartist find an identity?
SPEAKER_01 (35:58):
So when the artist ends up finding an identity
through the open mics, it's uhone of those things that's a win
for the city, because if it'ssomething that they are behind,
then that kind of shoves outthere into the world something
(36:19):
new.
Either it's something new orsomething that we have already,
but it has a twist that'sinteresting.
That we're thinking, okay,people might get it, they might
not get it, but we're proud ofit, right?
Right, that part.
I love that.
SPEAKER_07 (36:38):
That part, it's ours, right?
You see what I'm saying?
So when you come here, you knowthis is this is our shit.
SPEAKER_01 (36:47):
Right.
Yeah, and that's the same way itis with Cali.
Like, I had left, I hadn't beenback in quite some time.
So when I heard a lot of thenewer stuff that was out there,
I'm like, okay, okay, I can seewhere they're going with this
(37:07):
one.
It took a minute to adjust, justlike it did with the whole like
juvenile situation and all.
But the lingo ended upupgrading, and the way that they
were doing the delivery tocertain beats and things like
that still had like flavors oflike E40 or like the Bay Area,
(37:31):
like you know, you keep thesneaks or what have you.
But then they ended up havingDraco the ruler, you know, rest
in peace, and many otherdifferent styles, you know.
So and it may be polarizing to acertain extent, you know.
We we still had ways to get itaccessible to people through
(37:56):
like Kendrick and many otherdifferent people who are doing
uh kind of like tributes or ornods, but it's the same way out
here in Chicago.
Like at the time, drill musicwas really, really popping, like
when I came out.
So Chief Keep was really big,and you had like you know,
(38:20):
everybody out there.
Um, you can't name them all, butyou know, of course, you get
baby, baby, you know, the listgoes on.
Same thing, you know.
People might not have understoodit at the time, but Chicago was
really big on that.
(38:41):
That was like that's ours.
Yeah, then you started seeingpeople like incorporating all of
that over into their stuff, andthey're not even from.
So, yeah, you know, it's one ofthose things where yeah, open
mics, all of that stuff.
You have the potential to dothings like that.
SPEAKER_07 (39:03):
Yeah.
Um, as a producer, what are yourthoughts on AI?
Producers recall AI andproduction.
SPEAKER_01 (39:19):
AI production, gut feeling is one of those where
I'm not really a fan of itbecause it takes some of the
thing, the things that are bareminimum that you need.
And it just takes it away towhere if you're not careful,
(39:43):
artists can become very lazy.
Not only that, but I noticedwith a lot of that stuff, it
does come off as like verypolished, very well put
together, but soulless in incertain aspects.
I agree.
You know, like there's certainthings that humans can do that a
(40:06):
machine or prompt cannot do.
And one of those things isconnect.
Oh, that is awesome.
You know, like there, you canput a human person can prompt
these words, they can have aperson do uh have the AI do all
(40:29):
the work and write all of thesedifferent uh well-put-together
songs, but they have to comefrom somewhere.
Right.
And that comes from a humanbeing.
So, in order for them to be ableto do all of this, to be able to
connect on a human level, theyneed humans in order for them to
(40:50):
do it.
So I don't really see how thatworks if you want to connect
with the artist or connect withthe music, and you can't one see
them, two, go out to see themlive, you know, because we all
want to be able to at least seeor meet and connect with the
(41:12):
person that we connect withart-wise, or whatever it is that
they're doing.
So unless you're gonna spendmulti-million dollars worth
trying to pull uh a gorillas outof your hat with projectors and
stuff, but you still need youstill need artists, you know,
(41:36):
you still need people to playthe music.
So it's like okay, certainthings they can do, but there's
certain things that humans cando better.
I agree, I agree.
Okay, good point.
SPEAKER_07 (41:53):
Um really appreciate you making a point about they
can't connect.
Humans connect, you know.
Um so speaking on the wholeaspect connections, right?
(42:14):
Kind of it's kind of switchinggears, kind of.
Um what is your definition of ahealthy relationship?
Any type of relationship?
What's your definition of ahealthy relationship?
SPEAKER_01 (42:29):
Uh healthy relationship, something where
both parties are both partiesare able to grow.
Oh, oh, wow, man.
I love that.
I love that.
It's like that's one of thethings.
Um one of those things whereboth of them are able to be safe
(42:53):
around each other or feel safearound each other.
Yeah, the ability to correctanother person in a way where
it's not coming from maliciousintent, but coming from the
(43:13):
desire to see that person bebetter.
Oh, I love that.
I love it, I love that response,bro.
You know, that and being able tobe able to patch things up even
through misunderstandings.
Because, you know, sometimes wemight deliver a message that we
(43:34):
feel like a person may need, andit's just not wrapped up in in
the boat or wrapped up in theway that we would like to say
it.
And they might say it and it'sjust like reckless all over the
place, and the other person endsup hurt.
(43:56):
Being able to come back and belike, you know, hey, it wasn't
from a uh malicious place.
This is what I really meantabout this and that and the
third.
But I can understand that youfelt, you know, uh hurt by the
way that I said it, this and thethird.
And just being able to patchthat up, you know, because if
(44:21):
it's a strong enoughrelationship and a healthy
relationship, then that's notgonna be something that ends up
uh ending it.
Right.
You know, and that that rightthere ends up being a good
thing.
Uh holding another personaccountable, holding each other
accountable as well.
(44:44):
You know, you're sometimespeople feel like, you know, the
definition, and everybody'sdefinition is different, but
they feel like, hey, if I'mtotally 100% in the wrong, you
should definitely roll with me.
Uh you know, so sometimes peoplehave that idea, and it's like,
(45:07):
no, um, I'm not gonna help yougo and bury the body if you
decide to do X, Y, and Z.
You know, this is right, this isa true crime, or the first 48.
So, but right, you know, so it'sreally just one of those things,
(45:28):
you know.
You want them to really be thebest that they can be for
themselves while at the sametime helping you and basically
you helping each other to growto be better people.
I love that.
I love that.
SPEAKER_07 (45:46):
Um, who is your most influential family member?
SPEAKER_01 (45:53):
Oh man, before she passed, uh, my mother, most
influential family member,definitely.
She was like my best friend,like she was the one that always
kept my hand on strike.
Um, as far as it went, she wasone that was also into the
(46:17):
things I was into.
So she would play Madden and endup beating the brakes off me by
like 40.60 points.
Or I'll be up there playing 2Kwith her, and you know, I'll get
some in, and then sometimesshe'll come back, and it's like,
I'm looking at a 60-pointdeficit, and the referee, y'all,
(46:38):
y'all understand this one.
Believe in yourself, believe inyourself.
You know, that that part of thegame.
So, you know, when you'regetting whooped by your mama so
bad in 2K that even the coach istrying to, you know, help you
out.
But yeah, so um, she was intomusic, so anything that I was
(47:02):
into, she was checking in on it.
I remember when uh she first letme go ahead and watch Eight
Mile.
And she was like, all right, youknow, I'm gonna let you go ahead
and watch that and stuff.
But even then she started likingM and M, you know, you might not
have liked everything, but youknow, she started liking that.
(47:24):
Yeah.
And uh that's where I really gota chance to start uh introducing
her to some new stuff as well.
So like everything from AC aloneand Project Flow to like, you
know, certain aspects.
She she didn't even know at thetime that uh DJ Jazzy Jeff was
(47:47):
still making music.
Get the fuck out of you.
Yeah, because you know, when umDJ Jazzy Jeff and Fresh Prince
had, you know, they broke up andall of that stuff.
A lot of people just ended upgoing elsewhere and what have
you.
So when the return of themagnificent uh series ended up
(48:08):
coming back, that's when I wasable to go ahead and show her
some of that.
Yeah.
That's dope.
SPEAKER_07 (48:17):
That's that's phenomenal, man.
That's um I I I think it's Ithink it's uh it's a beautiful
thing to have to come across aperson in your life that you
feel like, like you said, wetruly connect with.
You know what I'm saying?
Like you like a person thathates you, you know, because
(48:39):
everybody don't get everybody.
Because everybody ain't meant toget everybody.
You see what I'm saying?
Um, so I think it's a blessingto come across those people, and
then I'm and maybe make sure yourest in peace, then I'm glad
that you know your mom had thateffect on you.
Um so speaking of connectingwith people, I got a dame
(49:00):
question for you, right?
Maybe a hard one.
Um, you got somebody that youare I'm setting, I'm I'm
painting the picture right.
You have that person that youhave that person that you
connect with, right?
You love them, you like beingaround them, you know.
As they say, y'all finish eachy'all finish each other's
(49:21):
sentences and all that type ofstuff, right?
Right.
Here's the one thing no matterhow much they shower or what
type of deodorant they use, theywill always be musty.
Can you stay with them?
SPEAKER_01 (49:42):
You know, there's there's probably some kind of
deodorant in this universethat's strong enough to help,
hopefully.
What if it's not?
SPEAKER_04 (49:54):
What I'm saying, what if it's not?
SPEAKER_01 (49:56):
What if it's not, you know, but if you love that
person, man, despite them beingmusty, I think that's a
beautiful thing.
Because you're seeing you'reshowing you're showing that you
can love this person for whothey are and not what they smell
like.
And um, yeah, that's that's atough one to be in, but yeah,
(50:20):
man, hats off to you.
Hats off to you, definitely,man.
You are a real one.
Right.
I mean I mean, you can take itto kind of conventions and
they'll blend in just fine.
SPEAKER_07 (50:35):
I mean, so it's not gonna be I love to ask that
question, man, because um umlike like you know it's humor,
but also man, you gotta thinkabout that, man.
Like really, you gotta thinkabout it, like what if you have
that person, it's like, but it'sjust this one thing.
(50:57):
Just this one thing that theycan't even help it.
You see what I'm saying?
Right.
What do you do?
You know, right.
Um I wanna I I wanna say thismuch, man, um, before before we
wrap up.
Uh what I said at the beginning,I I I authentic authentically
(51:18):
meant it.
I really appreciate meeting you,bro.
You know what I'm saying?
Sitting there in Kitty's, atKitty's cocktail lounge, um, and
then here you start singing.
It's like my my head just liftedup.
I'm like, oh, what the fuck?
You know what I'm saying?
And it was dope.
It was dope.
And uh, and then I didn't wantto speak on uh the project that
(51:41):
we got coming up, so I don'twant to put that out there just
yet.
I want to bust people over thehead with it, man.
Um, but I appreciate your craft,man, and I appreciate the
conversation, the conversationthat we had coming home from the
studio.
I appreciated that too.
Um, so uh let the people knowwhat you got coming up and what
(52:03):
they can look forward to.
SPEAKER_01 (52:06):
Man, we got another one actually happening.
Uh Sunday service at Kitty's outthere in Blue Island uh from 5
to 10.
We have pizza.
Uh we have good drinks, goodbartenders, good vibes, Johnny
Hafden, everybody that's there,Tom Boss, Jay Will, and Valerie.
(52:30):
I mean, butter, man, lyric.
We just gotta have a ball, man,straight up.
It's dope.
Peachy, can't forget PG.
PG Boss.
SPEAKER_07 (52:44):
Yeah, so it really is a dope time, bro.
It is it's a fucking phenomenaltime.
Like, for people that's reallyinto live music and that energy
of live music, they need to comecheck out Sunday service at
Kitty's Cocktail Lounge.
Uh, I wanna let me put the theaddress out there so people will
(53:05):
know.
Uh January 4th, first one of theyear.
Oh, that's oh, that's gonna bethe first one?
First one of the year, January4th.
Hold on for one second.
Okay, hold on, hold on.
SPEAKER_09 (53:23):
Oh, oh, okay.
SPEAKER_07 (53:28):
Hold on, I just wanna get so yeah, it's a
kitty's cocktail lounge, 2146Vermont Street in Blue Island.
And what time do y'all kick itoff, bro?
SPEAKER_01 (53:40):
Uh, they kick it off from five o'clock.
We end it off at 10 o'clock.
SPEAKER_09 (53:47):
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (53:48):
Yeah, so anybody who uh loves to jam, man, feel free.
Um, if you play an instrument,feel free to come on out, jam
with us.
If you sing, hey, come on out,jam with us.
It's pretty much, man.
No need to be nervous, just goout there and have some fun.
Uh, personally, for me, singingin the shower really came in
(54:11):
handy, so man.
SPEAKER_07 (54:16):
Yo, and and I recorded that motherfucking bear
down song you was doing, bro.
Oh, yeah.
Hey, hey, listen, listen to me,bro.
I'm not gonna say, I'm not gonnaeven say if.
I'm gonna say when the bears goto the fucking super bowl, we
(54:37):
gotta put that shit out.
Well, you gotta put that shitout.
That is fucking dope.
That is dope.
That is dope.
I'm telling you, man, everythingfalls into place, man.
That that's that's my my myhonest belief.
Everything falls into place, andI'm telling you, that song is
gonna be dope.
Um, thank you for being on thepodcast, man.
(55:02):
Real talk.
Um, I'm looking forward to whatwe got coming up.
Uh looking forward to what y'allgot coming up at Kitty's for
Sunday service.
Dope.
City gonna be in for.
I honestly believe it.
Real talk.
Yes, sir.
Uh, anything you want to leavethe people with before we get up
(55:23):
out of here?
SPEAKER_01 (55:25):
Oh man, hey, most definitely, man.
Everybody take care of eachother.
Um, pretty much spread the love.
As uh one one artist said, ACLoney said, love life, let it
love you back, you know.
SPEAKER_07 (55:44):
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
That's all we can do, man.
That's that's that's what weshould be doing, man.
That's what we should be doing.
All right, bro.
I'm gonna get up with you, man.
Have a good day, and uh besmooth, man.
Hey, definitely.
Thank you for having me.
No problem, man.
Peace.
(56:05):
Hold on, hold on.
Yes, sir.
That was my man, Teddy.
And like I said, y'all, I don'tI don't want to speak too much
on this, but we got somethingcoming up in the works.
It's a love, it's it's it's it'sa lovely project.
It's a lovely project.
That's all I'm gonna say.
(56:27):
But that's for now.
We're gonna get into the DJ mixum of the podcast.
Like I always tell people, DJs,if you want your 10 to 12 minute
mix play on the Shist Podcast,you can email it to DJMonsTerra
at gmail.com.
Uh, make sure you put your namein your mix, let the people know
(56:47):
who you are.
Uh, you can put in there whereyou're from, all the type of
stuff.
But just make sure that it'sdope.
All right?
So we're gonna get into it,y'all.
That is this is the mix.
SPEAKER_12 (58:22):
What a glass clap with gold starble, not fast with
me, but within the bottle, likea dark bit of old bit of largo
within the dust, got the cargofor bottle with waiting.
SPEAKER_11 (59:11):
We here to win.
Yellows, I'm not the light forthe party, I'm responding to the
paws, that align with the laws.
We mentality is testing away.
Literally, that's the win is meand all four, so they say that
I'ma go, but that I go ignore,cause the goat can be
slaughtered and cooked up andhurry and ate up in a hurry, and
that I can afford, but neverignored that me called something
(59:33):
from the Quran and maybe aboutCorinthians but take a like that
group you correct for one, andeither way, knocking down by the
dungeon while it is.
They understand the wealth isthe biggest going down and
stuff.
SPEAKER_06 (01:00:01):
We are wall, we can tell, I excel, then the bell.
SPEAKER_02 (01:00:09):
The mic is contacted, I attract clientele.
My mic check is life or death,breathing a sniper's breath.
I exhale the yellow smoke orfood of three.
SPEAKER_07 (01:00:56):
DJ my souls to ride a couple.
DJ you are the fire.
SPEAKER_02 (01:00:59):
The food up to the four, turn the face up.
Not stories by each of us.
Analyze, drop a true L.
And L from the L's cool of thewill.
You feel it like grill, it ain'thard to tell.
I keep the skill like shekilled, holds a fill.
Vocabulary's built, I'm ill.
Platformatic, I'm free free toslam it like I cheat.
Jam like a tech with correcttechniques.
(01:01:20):
So analyze me, surprise me, butcan't magmatize me.
I'll leave a froze like heroinin your nose.
Not to flap well, it ain't hardto tell.
SPEAKER_10 (01:01:48):
Yeah, yeah.
Got the Grizzly Lock from theStizzy, pop a clizzy 160 down a
one Wizzy trunk.
On the cruise through theavenue, while my labels are five
models of us, lose my labelsthat's on the UI lost the hub
cabbage back to the shack.
Came back in the watch that istaking dabby face, baby cabbage,
(01:02:12):
baby yellows.
Uh bird cherry reddish face,shot the dealer.
For the squealers with a vestfor the killers, nothing less,
cause it's filler in the beat.
Oh mama goes on the face whenI'm on the one beat.
(01:02:37):
I just love the pants.
I'm trying to live.
(01:03:02):
Almost came home with theGrammy.
I see bringing home three forthe family.
Somebody stop me with that.
Uptown, uptown.
You know you're feeling thattrue.
(01:03:23):
Uncle you can dance to niggagive me a look.
Take your glance in the mouthwith yours.
But both hands in the mouth withyours and drink me like you're
supposed to walk.
I'm loving pop, I ain't evenbaby to make scores just laugh
in the spot.
What are you saying name upagain?
And I know you can win.
I'm a military school.
It's gonna be black.
(01:03:51):
Go that way.
It's gonna be my life.
SPEAKER_06 (01:03:58):
But it's so right.
SPEAKER_09 (01:04:08):
Come on.
Sricker than your average.
Pop a twist, cabbage off andstink.
Let's don't make kids think.
Shout out to BIG Detroitplayers.
unknown (01:04:20):
It's a head right, diggy there, a night.
Papa been smooth since days areunder rose.
Never lose, never choose two.
SPEAKER_09 (01:04:26):
Bruce, cruise, who do something to us?
SPEAKER_03 (01:04:31):
The dopest DJ you heard thus far.
SPEAKER_09 (01:04:37):
I squeeze three and your cherry and three bang every
MC easily.
Take that recently, frightenain't saying nothing.
So I just stick my peaks.
unknown (01:04:47):
Come on.
SPEAKER_05 (01:04:58):
Sometimes the word is hypnotized.
SPEAKER_07 (01:05:00):
I would say shout out to bad boys, but all that
crazy shit going on.
SPEAKER_05 (01:05:04):
That's why the gold can you sound like it's a good
thing.
SPEAKER_07 (01:05:06):
Still hip hop.
SPEAKER_05 (01:05:14):
That's just why the gold and your soul.
SPEAKER_09 (01:05:16):
I put off and why on to DK and Y.
Miami DC, preferred VersaillesG.
Off in the hoodie border withMosquito.
Every cutie with the booty boardof coochie.
Meaning who's really the shit.
Rod, beta, Frank White, push mesticks on the maxes.
LX, four and a half.
unknown (01:05:34):
Bulletproof glass tip called gangsters packs.
Gone blast, squeeze first, askquestions last.
SPEAKER_09 (01:05:39):
That's how most of these so-called gangsters pass.
Rap about you on the frogs.
Give some bras, menage toirs,sex and expensive cars.
Still leave you on the papers.
Condo paid for, no callpayments.
At my arrayman, no for thecleaning.
Your daughter's tired up in theBrooklyn basement.
Fix it, not guilty.
That's how I say too.
(01:06:00):
Thank you.
Richard and Richcoming.
SPEAKER_05 (01:06:03):
We eat, we get we need to sleep.
Sometimes the day is hip andtie.
unknown (01:06:14):
Uh-huh.
Sometimes your words aresleeping.
SPEAKER_08 (01:06:25):
Girls, rub on your city.
Yeah, I said it rub on yourcity.
New York City gritty committee,pity the food that acts kitty in
the midst of the calm, thewitty.
I want to own DJ Mons to Rob.
Coming straight from Chicago.
(01:06:49):
Without the goal, we so wrappedaround the world.
But when I'm in the body outthere supporting shit podcasts,
the boom control the game likeindividuals think it then speaks
like a way to block shots.
Get the fuck up.
(01:07:09):
Simon says, get the fuck up.
Put your hands to the sky.
(01:07:31):
Let's get your beef, you put himin the mausoleum and shut up the
time barnett.
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