October 13, 2025 • 49 mins
The forest has rules you feel before you understand—and tonight we push against them. We dive into the viral legend of “stairs in the woods,” those freestanding steps that appear where no house stands and silence swallows birdsong. With Heather from Tell Me a Scary Story, we unpack why liminal structures terrify us, how modern folklore spreads online, and what makes some tales feel unsettlingly true.
We start by tracing the myth’s roots in early Reddit threads: stone steps mossed over, pristine carpeted risers in the deep backcountry, teams warned not to climb. Then we test the blueprint of a perfect campfire scare with a first-person narrative —specific times, a panicked dog, a friend who changes on a landing, and a ranger’s file that disagrees with reality—before revealing how crafted creepypasta earns belief by respecting detail, rhythm, and doubt.
Along the way, we explore how architecture without context becomes a psychological trap, why time perception warps under stress and novelty, and how folklore works as a social sensor for our anxieties about wilderness, development, and authority. We trade practical advice too: how to document strange structures responsibly, read old foundations, check easements, and set hard boundaries when curiosity tilts toward danger. The goal isn’t to debunk wonder; it’s to keep you sharp in places that deserve respect.
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SPEAKER_08 (00:00):
But you still see like the woods kind of off like
it's all that area that wherethat um where that one road is,
I said that like kind of goesthrough and it cuts into like
that little highway area.
It's all that area that'sdeveloped.
So the rest of the woods that wewould like go in and like screw
around in is still there.
SPEAKER_10 (00:16):
So you think the house is still there?
SPEAKER_08 (00:18):
Uh you know what?
SPEAKER_06 (00:19):
If I never know, I can die happy.
SPEAKER_05 (00:29):
Thanks for that.
SPEAKER_08 (00:32):
I don't always monomina, but when I do, I do do
do do.
SPEAKER_02 (00:38):
Now when do we see that before we begin today's
episode, we would like to sharea quick disclaimer.
(00:58):
The views, opinions, andstatements expressed by the
hosts and guests on this podcastare their own personal views and
are provided in their owncapacity.
All content is editorial,opinion-based, and intended for
entertainment purposes only.
Listener discretion is advised.
(01:18):
Tonight we're going deep intothe forest, not the kind marked
with trails and campfire songs,but the kind where the trees
lean in too close and the quietfeels like it's watching you.
Now, maybe you've heard thestories staircases in the woods,
just standing there.
No ruins, no houses, no logicalreason for them to exist.
(01:43):
Some say it's a hoax, others sayit's a government cover-up.
But those who found them, theydon't talk much about it.
And the ones who do, they neverclimb them, or if they do, they
don't come back the same.
Welcome back to the show.
I'm Angela, and as always,riding Shotgun.
(02:04):
I have Kaya with me.
How are you doing?
SPEAKER_08 (02:06):
I am Groot.
SPEAKER_02 (02:12):
And today we have a very special guest.
Um, we have Heather from Tell Mea Scary Story Podcast.
We're so excited to have youwith us today.
SPEAKER_04 (02:22):
I'm excited to be here.
SPEAKER_02 (02:24):
Well, how are you doing?
And do you want to tell ourlisteners a little bit about
yourself and your podcast?
Well, sure.
Hi, I'm Heather.
SPEAKER_04 (02:33):
Obviously, Tell Me a Scary Story is my podcast where
I talk about all things, well,scary and spooky from cryptids
to UFOs to hauntings tosometimes even some true crime.
And yeah, I love it all.
So if you are interested in thatstuff, hop on over and you can
find me on Spotify, on TikTok,kind of on Instagram and barely
(02:57):
on YouTube, but I'm gonna workon that.
SPEAKER_02 (03:02):
Well, you you definitely have some great
stuff.
I've been uh listening to all ofyour episodes and it's
phenomenal work.
So thank you.
Yeah, we're we're so happy tohave you.
Oh, that means so much.
Thank you.
So, Heather and Kyle, are youfamiliar with the phenomena of
stairs in the in the woods?
SPEAKER_08 (03:23):
Uh I I know about the woods and I use the stairs
all the time.
Does that count?
I've actually hit my head on thestairs a couple of times.
SPEAKER_04 (03:33):
Oh God, not in the woods.
Not in the woods?
Not in the woods.
Not in the woods.
Okay.
I actually have heard about thisbefore.
So it's actually pretty prettyfascinating.
SPEAKER_02 (03:46):
Yeah, yeah.
So um I want to go just kind oflike where kind of the roots of
this phenomenon happened.
Um, and then we'll get into avery personal story I've been
dying to tell about an encounterwith the stairs in the woods.
Do what do what now?
(04:10):
So the this phenomenon with thestairs in the woods gained a lot
of traction on Reddit or in theearly 2010s.
Um, so there was a post onReddit by an alleged uh search
and rescue officer, and it wentviral.
And basically, this guy wasclaiming that they often found
(04:30):
freestanding staircases deep innational parks.
They were miles away from anyother structure.
Sometimes they would find themand they were like made of
ancient stone, overgrown withmoss.
Others were disturbingly likepristine, like we're talking
clean carpet, no debris, nodust.
And some of them looked likethey had just been placed there
(04:52):
yesterday.
And according to this story, theSAR teams were warned if you
ever see one of the stairs,don't go near it and never climb
it.
There was never any officialexplanation given, just a quiet
understanding that stairs foundin the forest were wrong and you
don't do anything with them.
(05:13):
But the interesting thing isthat it it didn't stop at just
one post.
Soon there were reports kind ofpopping up from all over the
world (05:24):
Germany, Sweden, the Philippines.
There was even a story from thejungles in Cambodia where the
stairs led into the canopy andthen just stopped.
So they often report that noneof them had foundations.
But the thing that the threadthat kind of combines all of the
(05:45):
stories was that all of themreported that something seemed
off, that there was like a deadzone in the air.
There, you know, like birds,there were no noises, like
everything just sound just sortof dropped.
Um, and then they also reportedthat time seemed to move
(06:05):
differently.
SPEAKER_01 (06:07):
Oh, interesting.
SPEAKER_02 (06:08):
What the fuck?
Yeah.
So what do you think?
SPEAKER_04 (06:12):
I mean, what just trying to Kyle's enthralled
right now.
SPEAKER_08 (06:17):
He's like, Kyle's enthralled is so bad.
I'm doing I wish you guys couldsee me.
I'm doing my best not to justlike laugh like uncontrollably
at this because when when youfirst pitched this idea that
this was the topic, we were allthis other kind of fun stuff.
(06:38):
I sat there and for like atleast a day or two, I was
looking for Ashton Kusher tolike pop out of my refrigerator
or something.
Or I was like, I'm being punked,right?
This has got to be the mostridiculous fucking thing we've
ever talked about.
SPEAKER_09 (06:52):
It's a legit thing.
Yeah, it is.
SPEAKER_08 (06:55):
Well, um, he was telling me this, and it's like,
I'm just picturing what it'slike playing Minecraft with me.
Like you're just walkingthrough, next thing you know,
there's a fucking staircase thatI just got bored with and
stopped building.
There's just a random thing inthe middle of the fucking wet.
Just a random fucking.
I'm seeing like concrete stairsand like a railing, and then it
(07:15):
just stops.
SPEAKER_02 (07:17):
Yeah, exactly.
Well, that yeah, that's that'sexactly yeah.
That's exactly it.
SPEAKER_08 (07:23):
I'm still I'm still waiting to wake up because this
is the most asinant thing I'veever fucking heard of.
SPEAKER_02 (07:30):
Well, then let me tell you a story, a firsthand
account.
unknown (07:37):
Oh my god.
SPEAKER_08 (07:39):
Respectfully.
SPEAKER_04 (07:40):
Great, thank you.
That song is now in my head.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (07:43):
What can I say except I'll stop?
SPEAKER_02 (07:47):
All right.
So this is my first hand story.
And I know when people hearstories like this, you know,
they say, Oh, you know, you'vehad you had too much weed, or
you've seen too many horrormovies.
Uh, you've sleep deprivation,trauma, you know, it all the
(08:08):
things.
And I'm all I've always beenlike, fine, believe whatever
makes you feel safe.
But this is my story.
And I will say that somethinghappened to me.
And I feel like I need to saythis out loud right now before I
lose the nerve to tell thisstory.
So this was in the fall of 2022.
(08:29):
I was backpacking in WestVirginia with my friend Ethan
and my dog Severus.
We'd been going off trail moreand more, trying to explore
areas most people don't touch,old growth forest, you know,
places where there's no celltowers, no noise, no people.
We just wanted wind, birds, andto really feel that we were, you
(08:53):
know, in ancient AppalachiaMountains.
But the thing, we weren't reallyeven supposed to be there
because it was consideredoff-grid exploring.
That's what Ethan always calledit.
I called it trespassing on landsthat we were not supposed to be
at.
SPEAKER_08 (09:14):
Oh, like actual, like actual fruit, like signs
like don't fucking go here.
SPEAKER_02 (09:18):
Yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_09 (09:20):
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (09:22):
So this was on the third day, and we set out from
our camp around 10 a.m.
And we were hiking along a gametrail when Severus stopped just
dead.
His ears were pinned back, hishackles were raised, and then he
bolted off into the trees,growling like he had lost his
(09:43):
damn mind.
And, you know, we just went outand we started chasing him.
And I want to say, like, wechased him for about 15-20
minutes, and then we found him,and he was sitting completely
calm, and he was next to astaircase, and it was a
staircase that was just there.
It was wooden, painted white,but the paint was like peeling
(10:08):
kind of like sunburned skin.
And there were seven steps tothe staircase, and then there
was a small landing, and thennothing above it.
There was no structure, noruins.
It really looked like it didn'tbelong in this place in the
woods.
And I remember Ethan, he waslaughing, saying, you know,
(10:28):
like, oh, look at this.
We found somebody's, you know,treehouse escape route or
something.
Um, so he was, you know, justmaking jokes about it.
But I couldn't move.
Something felt wrong.
It was like something wasintruding on us, or we were
intruding on it.
It was wrong in the sense, likeit felt like something was
(10:50):
watching us.
Like whatever this was hadturned around to face us when we
arrived.
SPEAKER_01 (10:56):
Oh no, don't like that.
SPEAKER_02 (10:57):
And Ethan, kind of being the jokester that he
always was, he went up thestairs.
Like, of course, he he had noqualms whatsoever.
He always wanted to be the braveone and always made a joke out
of everything.
So he climbed all seven steps,stood on the landing, and
grinned at me.
And he was like, see, nothinghappens.
(11:18):
And he started bouncing on it,joking, taunting.
And then all of a sudden,Severus started barking again.
But it was like this panicked,high-pitched bark, like he was
trying to warn us.
It was something like between abark and a whelp.
It was very odd.
And that's when Ethan changed.
And I don't, it wasn't likeanything like he changed, like
(11:40):
he was being dramatic or likenothing cinematic.
It was just like his faceshifted.
He went pale and he stoppedsmiling.
And then he like blinked realslow.
It I swear it was like somebodycoming out of anesthesia.
And he walked back down thestairs, but not all the way.
(12:01):
He just walked six steps andthen he stood there.
He just stopped, not talking,not moving.
He was just staring into theforest like he was waiting for
something.
And I kept calling to him andnothing.
I took a step forward, andthat's when Severus he lunged at
my leg and he he actually bitme, bit me hard, drew blood.
(12:23):
Like he had he had never doneanything like that before, ever.
And it was like he was trying tohold me back or redirect me in
some way.
Eventually, Ethan turned to meand his voice was very flat, and
he was like, Let's go back.
We've been out long enough.
Except I didn't think we reallyhad.
Um he was the one that, youknow, like insisted that we, you
(12:48):
know, take a few more days.
He was the one who packed allthe extra gear.
He wanted to take this off-gridpath, but yet he was saying,
like, we've been out, we've beencamping long enough.
And and the thing is, he when heleft the stairs, he didn't even
look at me when he spoke.
He just walked right past me andstarted for back the way that we
(13:09):
came to that part of the forest.
So the weird part is we wereonly gone about an hour, right?
So my watch was like a littleafter 11.
But when we made it back tocamp, the sun was gone and it
was nighttime.
It was pitch black, cold, deadof night.
The fire we had left smolderingwas long dead.
(13:33):
Um smoldering.
Smoldering, I know.
As soon as I was like, here wego.
SPEAKER_08 (13:39):
I couldn't help myself.
I could not help myself.
SPEAKER_02 (13:42):
But um, when I asked him what time he thought it was,
he just looked at me and said,It's always been this time.
And I was like, What the fuck?
It sounds like he's possessed.
Right.
And that's like the moment Iknew that I didn't think this
was my friend anymore.
Like something was seriouslydifferent.
(14:02):
And that night I didn't sleep.
I kept one hand on Severus, onehand on my hatchet, and Ethan
sat by the the the fire allnight just watching it.
Going out of bed.
You're right, not warminghimself.
He was just staring into theashes.
(14:23):
So, and then around 3 a.m., Iheard him whisper, and it
sounded like he was sayingsomething's underneath.
SPEAKER_04 (14:31):
Oh, hell no.
SPEAKER_02 (14:32):
And I just pretended to sleep, and then he whispered
again, and this time like hiswhisper was very close, but he
was not like there was no one inthe tent with me, but I could
hear him whisper, it likes yourvoice.
Oh.
So as soon as first as soon asfirst light hit, I packed very
(14:54):
quietly.
I knew I had to get out ofthere, and Ethan didn't stop me.
He stood and watched me, and hishead was just was like tilted in
this weird, like slightlyoff-kelter tilt of his head.
Um, and Severus never left myside.
I mean, he would not let me outof his sight.
So I sat on a path, and here'sthe thing though: the map no
(15:21):
longer was the map that likewhere I was in the woods
changed.
The paths didn't match up towhat was on the map, and there
were all these weird carvingsand trees that I never noticed
before.
It was like runes carved intotrees, and then I saw another
staircase, and then I keptseeing another staircase.
(15:44):
And each time, each staircasewas a little taller and a little
cleaner, and like a littlecloser to me.
And I started running.
And I swear to you, it was likethe trees were moving with me.
It was like they were trying toclose in around me, and like the
wind was whipping, and itsounded like there were whispers
in the wind.
(16:05):
And that's when I saw it.
I saw a shadowed figure thatmoved out of the trees, and it
was whispering my name, and Ijust kept bolting.
I finally made it to a rangerstation, and then I just
collapsed on the porch, and Iwas covered in scratches.
Severus was still barking mad,and the ranger he came out and
(16:29):
he looked so confused.
He he genuinely looked like hesaw a ghost, and then he stood
up.
That's when Ethan caught up tous, and he turned like even a
another pale shade of pale, ifyou can if you can imagine that.
And he said, Oh my god, you'rethat hiker from three years ago.
(16:53):
And I thought it was a joke.
I was like, What are I what areyou talking about?
And he pulled up this file andshowed me this report, and it
had my name and Ethan's name,and it said, Missing, presumed
dead, last seen October 9th,2017, bodies and dog never
(17:14):
recovered.
And that was my name on thatreport.
That was us, and we'd only beenthere for three days, right?
Like, right, and I can tell youafter all these years, I can say
that I'm here, I'm in my home orsomewhere like it.
But sometimes when I close myeyes, I I still see those
(17:36):
stairs, I see them in myhallway.
Uh, and it's just like it'ssomething is just waiting for
me.
And I haven't seen Ethan sincethat trip, but I swear sometimes
it's like I can hear his voicein the vents or in the woods
behind my house.
So that's my story.
(17:58):
What do you think?
SPEAKER_08 (17:59):
Well, I think it'll be easy to sleep tonight, that's
for sure.
SPEAKER_02 (18:02):
Right?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
So do you feel brave enough totake a solo hiking trip this
fall?
Nope.
Nope.
Well, I have a confession.
I have a confession.
So that story was just a creepypasta I made up just for fun.
(18:23):
I've never had a friend namedEthan.
SPEAKER_08 (18:26):
I was like, what's I was listening I was completely
sold until you said your dog,Severus?
And I'm like, bullshit.
Like bullshit.
SPEAKER_04 (18:36):
I was like, great name.
SPEAKER_08 (18:38):
Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (18:39):
Nice name.
What?
If I had a dog, if I had a dog,you don't think I would name it
Severus?
SPEAKER_08 (18:44):
I didn't know you don't got no fucking dog.
SPEAKER_00 (18:49):
That's true.
SPEAKER_04 (18:50):
It was really well, I I'm applauding.
It was really good.
It was really creepy.
I loved it and it freaked meout.
SPEAKER_08 (18:57):
Listen, I swear to God.
God is my witness, got somewhere the fuck I don't give me
an upside-down backwards ChineseBraille Bible with half the
pages missing.
I'll swear on that too.
I kind of felt my heart going.
I was like, wait a minute, thisis kind of creepy.
I swear to God.
SPEAKER_02 (19:15):
Yeah, but here's the thing.
I don't have a dog now, but youdon't know what I had in 2022.
I could have had a dog in 2017.
SPEAKER_08 (19:22):
My damn friend Ethan went no fucking stairs and
severed the dog.
I don't know goddamn well.
But you and I have been aroundthe block doing this a little
while.
You and I had someconversations.
SPEAKER_02 (19:36):
True.
True.
SPEAKER_08 (19:36):
You would never brought up none of these
motherfuckers before.
I was gonna be like, show me thecarfax.
Show me the carfax.
At some point, one of them wouldhave been brought up.
At some point.
SPEAKER_02 (19:52):
This is very true.
This is very true.
Yeah, yep.
But so I wrote that just to kindof demonstrate like how real
some of these stories are.
And that's the thing.
You know, are they real?
Are they fiction?
Are they, you know, like thereare people who swear that
they've seen them.
(20:14):
Um, and then you have thesestories, just like the one that
I wrote, pop up, you know, onReddit in different sites all
all the time that people findthese.
SPEAKER_08 (20:25):
Okay.
So here's my follow-up questionto that.
Are you really Angela or are youthat guy who was on Star Trek
The Next Generation, and then hehad that show Beyond Belief,
Fact or Fiction, and all thestories.
And at the end of the show, youhad to figure out if it was a
real story or not.
Because is that what we're doingright now?
Is that what this fuckingepisode is?
SPEAKER_00 (20:44):
Yes.
SPEAKER_08 (20:45):
Because one, I fucking love that.
I fucking love that show.
SPEAKER_00 (20:48):
I haven't seen that forever.
SPEAKER_08 (20:50):
I fucking love that show.
And every now and then I just Ilove the reels and the TikToks
and the memes where it's likewhat it's like having a toddler.
It's just a complex video.
If you ever ride bikes, you knowsomeone with weird.
What about flip?
How long do you think it takesto blow up a balloon?
Like, you fucking love it.
SPEAKER_04 (21:07):
I've seen those for ADHD, and like that's me.
Yes.
SPEAKER_08 (21:12):
It's my autism on ADHD having a conversation in
the brain.
SPEAKER_00 (21:22):
Oh my gosh.
Me trying to make friends.
SPEAKER_07 (21:34):
You want to be on a podcast and or hear about some
fucking standards?
SPEAKER_00 (21:38):
That's right.
SPEAKER_02 (21:39):
Good luck sleeping tonight.
Yeah, it's the only way I knowhow to make friends.
Just talk about creepy shit.
Heck yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (21:50):
Well, yeah, you're you got well you you you're
you're you're averaging likewhat, like a 70 average right
now for making new friends onthe internet, right?
SPEAKER_10 (22:01):
Yeah, probably.
SPEAKER_08 (22:03):
That's all right.
I was a C student.
It's okay.
SPEAKER_02 (22:07):
C student.
I was a C student.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that's the thing with withuh yeah, internet friends.
It's like a box of chocolates.
You never know what you're gonnaget.
SPEAKER_00 (22:16):
You really don't know what you're gonna get.
That's true.
SPEAKER_08 (22:20):
I thought it was an imagined eight ball, you just
shake it up and see what thefuck it's gonna say.
Hey, are you a new friend?
SPEAKER_02 (22:24):
Don't count on it.
Right.
I mean that later.
SPEAKER_08 (22:31):
Are you gonna be a lifelong friend or are you gonna
be a lesson?
SPEAKER_02 (22:35):
Yes.
SPEAKER_08 (22:37):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (22:39):
It's a lifelong lesson.
Yeah.
So um, you know, that's that'sreally all I had on this on this
staircase.
You know, it's it's just thisweird phenomenon that seems to
have popped up, you know, um,from the early 2000s on.
And, you know, there's a lot oftheories and interpretations,
(23:00):
you know, and that's and that'sI guess the question that I'm
posing.
Do you buy into like, is itpossible?
And if there are stairs, is itjust ruins from like an old
settlement or something that wasthere?
But the thing that that strikesme is like the time distortion.
You know, people uh on all ofthese stories, they they talk
about how time kind of slipsaway.
(23:22):
And there seems to be like, evenwith and and Heather, you
probably know this from youknow, kind of studying hauntings
and stuff, um, you know, thereare there are cases where people
can go into haunted houses, um,and it's like time, time does
funny things, you know?
SPEAKER_04 (23:41):
Oh yeah, a hundred percent.
You'll think you're in there foran hour and just kind of like
your story, well, you're notgone for three years, but you
know, it's a lot longer thanthat.
I mean, there are people,especially in in cases of
people, you know, supposedlybeing possessed and stuff, they
they lose time.
SPEAKER_08 (24:01):
I could start with another story.
And I listen, listen, I know howthis is.
SPEAKER_02 (24:05):
Do you have a Kyle?
Do you have a story aboutfinding a fucking staircase in
the goddamn woods?
SPEAKER_08 (24:12):
I have one about finding a box in the middle of
the woods.
SPEAKER_02 (24:15):
Okay, well then.
SPEAKER_08 (24:17):
I swear to God I do.
I swear to God I do.
SPEAKER_02 (24:19):
Okay.
SPEAKER_08 (24:22):
Jokes.
No.
Um this was oh, many winter ago.
Picture this, Sicily, 1922.
SPEAKER_02 (24:30):
I knew it.
I knew it.
SPEAKER_00 (24:31):
I knew you were gonna do that.
Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_08 (24:37):
Picture this.
West Haven, Connecticut, 2000.
Nine.
2009, 2010, give or take.
Um it was uh I was dating thisgirl and literally like right,
kind of like right in herbackyard, there was like this
(25:01):
wooded area that there was likethis gate that was there and it
was all chained off andwhatever, I guess.
I think it was like the watercompany or like the electric
company or something.
I don't know, one of the bigIt's electric.
SPEAKER_10 (25:14):
Boogie, boogie, boogie.
Boogie, boogie, boogie.
Hey you guys.
SPEAKER_08 (25:18):
One of one of those kind of fucking infrastructure
whatever the fucks owned allthat land.
And technically, like yourstory, it was trespassing to go
there or whatever, but we wereteenagers and stupid and didn't
give a shit.
And um a lot of times, like onlike the weekends, like a bunch
of the friends we would gettogether, and like some
teenagers would do, we'd just goand like fuck around in the
woods.
(25:38):
Right?
And so we would just and mainlyjust because like I'm obsessed
with the woods and always wantedto go there, and mainly because
some of the other kids there,they wanted to try to find
places to grow marijuana's, butthey're stupid.
Anywho, so every now and then wewould just kind of go through we
just go for walks and hikesthrough the the woods, because
there was like actual likewalking trails and hiking trails
(25:59):
and shit.
And you know, each time we wouldgo, we'd go a little bit
farther, a little bit fartherhere, a little bit farther
there, and we would find somekind of weird, kind of random
shit there.
Like uh I guess a bunch of otherpeople would use that as like
paintball and airsoft andwhatnot.
So there was like they like madebarricades in this kind of
open-y area.
(26:19):
So it was just kind of cool likesee that and just other buttons
of folks saying, okay, so wejust keep going further and
further.
And then there was like a um Ithink it was a foundation to to
a house.
And um it was just likeconcrete, it was like a concrete
like rectangle, you know, downseven, eight feet.
But there was never anything uhbuilt on it.
(26:42):
There was no kind of remnantsaround it.
Like there wasn't like piles ofwood, there wasn't driveways,
there was no other kind of like,oh, there used to be a road
here, and then however manydecades, you know, the part of
town just whatever they close itoff in just the woods and they
just let it nature take it back.
None of that.
It was just a random kind ofconcrete foundation hole in the
(27:02):
ground.
SPEAKER_01 (27:03):
Interesting.
SPEAKER_08 (27:04):
Which was kind of like weird because it was like I
thought it was like in themiddle of the fucking woods.
Yeah.
There was no it wasn't likeright off of the I said, because
like w whatever infrastructurething owned this, the area that
was gated off, there was a road.
There was a paved road that youwould go, I don't know, maybe
like a quarter of a mile intotal length, it would kind of
go down this one way, and thenit looped around to the corner
(27:27):
to the other like main kind ofhighway thing that was there.
Now, if it was something thatwas just off that, oh, they
bought it and they were gonnadevelop the area, but then they
backed out.
This was like at least a mileaway from that in the middle of
the fucking woods.
SPEAKER_01 (27:41):
Wow, that's great.
SPEAKER_08 (27:42):
And then you look a little bit farther down, same
thing, you same thing.
There's a like the tree line, alittle bit past the tree lines,
you can see through it.
There's another like opening,another clearing.
It's like fuck it, let's headout to that clearing there.
Let's see what the fuck's overthere.
So we went to that clearing, andright on the edge of that
clearing, there is his house.
(28:03):
Swear to god, swear to fuckingcat.
Just his random house.
And same thing, there's like thethe trees are kind of it's
almost like the area was s kindof cleared out, oval-esque-ish,
whatever you want to say.
Um, but there was no roads in orout to this.
And there's no inkling thatthere were roads, and there was
no there was there was just likedirt paths from shit like this.
(28:27):
Of like there wasn't anything,there was no way to get to this
building.
There never was a way to get tothis building.
SPEAKER_01 (28:32):
Oh wow.
SPEAKER_08 (28:34):
I swear to fucking god.
SPEAKER_01 (28:35):
That is so weird.
SPEAKER_08 (28:36):
But then all but then on it too, it's it's not
only just a house, but it'sboarded up, it's abandoned.
So and I swear to god, if I cango like through, I will find
pictures through my Facebook ofthe house.
Yes, proof that this house I'mnot lying right now.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
One of the times when so when wefound this house, it was just me
(28:57):
and my girlfriend at the time.
And uh we were she was justlike, I'm not fucking going over
there, get the fuck out of here.
And uh I was like, you knowwhat?
Alright, fair enough.
And if I'm gonna be completelyhonest, yeah, I'm not brave
enough to fucking do that bymyself either, absolutely not.
And he goes, and plus the otherbuffoons are gonna want to see
this anyway.
So like a couple days later, umwe watch a call.
(29:18):
So, you know, we we all go overto her house again and we go
back to the fucking to you know,same way through to the house,
to the whatever.
And I was like, okay, so it wasat the fucking the the the
foundation thing.
It was like to the left and likethrough the clearing.
So we get to the foundationthing, and I'm telling you, it
it looked noticeably older.
(29:40):
Like there wasn't any like mossor ivy or anything growing on
it.
I'm not a horticulturist, I'mnot poison ivy, I'm not I don't
know how fast that kind of shitgrows, but I know that like you
know, I know for like um liketrees and shit to grow on, like
Rocks, those rocks have to belike thousands of fucking years
(30:02):
old.
You know what I mean?
It's just and there was like thefoundation was pretty solid.
When I tell you that it was inpretty you could tell it was old
as been there.
It was dirty, but it wasn't likecracked, it wasn't broken or
anything like that.
One when I'm telling you, wewent back.
This was like well, like two orthree days later.
It was like Wednesday, it waslike a Wednesday where we went,
and now we're back on likeSaturday.
SPEAKER_06 (30:22):
Yeah, it's just a couple of days.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (30:24):
I'm telling you, it looked like it was like fucking
like ruins.
Like there was like all sorts oflike moss and green shit growing
on it.
There was a big fucking crackdown one side, and there's like
shit's like growing out of thatcrack.
SPEAKER_01 (30:36):
Oh wow, that's crazy.
I don't like it.
SPEAKER_08 (30:38):
I don't I I can't say whether how much how quick
shit like that grows.
So maybe it is a freak thingthat like okay, yeah, the roots
were pushing against it, and itliterally did just happen and
grow through.
I don't fucking know.
But then we get to the fuckinghouse.
The house is pretty much thehouse was the same.
It was still like boarded up.
There was like the graffiti onit and like the locks and
(31:02):
whatnot.
And um but like the locks lookedreally new.
Like someone had just placedthem within the year.
With within the year.
Oh wow.
Like within the year, they say,but there's no way to get to
this except like trucking itthrough the woods in any
direction.
So like even like later, like wewent back the the first time
(31:23):
when we found that house, I likeI went onto like Google Maps or
some shit, and I was just like,But you it it's not it wasn't on
Google Maps, it wasn't onanything, and so I went through
and yeah, don't make fun of mebecause my specific taste of
autism, thanks mom for theTylenol.
Um, is I fucking love maps.
So like and I I think I get thatfrom my father because my father
(31:45):
always has fucking maps.
And like I went through like allthe maps that he had into that
area goes, like, and there neveris anything, there never was
anything to that area.
SPEAKER_03 (31:56):
That's so strange.
SPEAKER_08 (31:57):
It should not be there.
And like where I'm kind ofguessing and triangulating it to
be, it's just forest, you know?
But there's a fucking housethere, like a fucking
three-story, like a big ass,like kind of nice house.
And uh and and the locks wererelatively new on this thing.
SPEAKER_06 (32:16):
Huh.
SPEAKER_08 (32:16):
And of course, we're stupid and we gotta break into
this thing.
SPEAKER_02 (32:20):
Oh my goodness.
I was gonna say, please tell meyou broke into it.
SPEAKER_08 (32:23):
We absolutely absolutely broke into this
fucking thing.
We a million percent broke intothis fucking thing.
Um and we get in, and it is ohyeah, it's you know, it's dusty
and it's dirty, and it's allthis other kind of fun stuff.
And I sh you're not we're we'regoing through here, we're going
through you know, we're checkingout this place, we're checking
at that place.
(32:43):
All the windows are busted out,but there's no glass uh inside.
Um, it's really dusty, butthere's no footprints.
You know, there's nothing likein the dust or whatever the hell
it is.
SPEAKER_05 (32:58):
Right.
SPEAKER_08 (32:58):
Absolutely nothing.
The house looks pretty muchundisturbed.
SPEAKER_02 (33:02):
Well, was there like furniture inside the house or
was it all just completelyempty?
SPEAKER_08 (33:08):
Absolutely empty.
SPEAKER_02 (33:09):
The only thing that was in there was walls, like
drywalls, you know, finishedwalls dry.
SPEAKER_08 (33:13):
Very old, very old.
It looked, it reminded me of thehouse from Casper.
Like very old type of wallpaper,like I don't want to say like
Victorian or Gothic, but like,you know, just kind of that.
However, you would explain thestyle of the House from Casper
or the Adams family.
(33:35):
That's kind of like a kind ofgotta see the pics.
I don't know.
I don't remember if we have alot of pictures from inside of
the house.
I think there's a couple, but Ijust I just I know there's
pictures that exist of usoutside and breaking into the
house.
So like so, like, I know youtake pictures of yourself
breaking into a house.
SPEAKER_04 (33:53):
Like people don't let people take pictures of you.
SPEAKER_00 (33:57):
Like look at what I'm doing.
SPEAKER_08 (33:59):
I told you, we were we were dumb teenagers and shit.
Well, I don't think they werelike actually taking pictures of
like the house.
It was just like it was one ofone of one of the uh one of the
girls that was there was takinga picture of my girlfriend, and
she's just standing there likesmiling, like standing on
because there was like a um whatthe fuck?
Um almost like a porch.
(34:19):
That's what we that's what wedid to climb up into the house.
We we couldn't get through anyof like the first floor windows.
We had to climb up on top of theum, you know, give give each
other a boost and help eachother up onto this like porch
awning kind of thing and breakinto the second store window.
SPEAKER_01 (34:33):
Oh my gosh, that's crazy.
SPEAKER_08 (34:35):
So there's a picture of her like standing on it with
like this stick because she waslike super, super short, and
she's with this doofy fuckingsmile, and someone took the you
know, her friend took a pictureof of her, and they there's just
three fucking jackasses in theback turn plywood off our stuff.
SPEAKER_00 (34:51):
That's the lyric nice.
SPEAKER_08 (34:54):
But um yeah, so so we're just going through and
like it's just like it's thesame thing, it's just it's kind
of eerie, it's kind of weird,you know, a little spooky
because it's just this randomfucking house.
SPEAKER_03 (35:06):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_08 (35:07):
Right?
SPEAKER_03 (35:07):
Very much like the stairs, they're just randomly
there.
SPEAKER_08 (35:11):
But all right, this is okay.
This is the part that fuckingsent me, absolutely sent me.
We had to, you know, we had toexplore all of the house and see
all of the sentences, so on andso forth.
So of course, oh hey, there'sthe attic.
Why not?
(35:33):
Oh wow.
Pull down the stairs.
Yeah, it's one of those ones wepull down the creaky fucking
stairs and the lat and thefucking down the really creaky,
crickety fucking stairs.
You climb up into it, andthere's no electricity to the
house.
There's no nothing to the house.
So we got just like our phoneflashlights and shit.
Girl, when I tell you in themiddle of the fucking attic,
(36:00):
dead center of it, there is somefucking doll.
SPEAKER_04 (36:05):
I knew it.
I knew you were gonna say doll.
SPEAKER_08 (36:07):
You knew hold on.
There's a doll sitting in themiddle of the attic.
It's not looking at the stairs,it was looking away, like I
think if I I think towards thefront of the house, like what
would be the front of the house,right?
Same thing, all the windows upthere are everything's still
boarded up and whatnot.
But what fucked me up was whenwe went up there to like look
(36:30):
at, you know, we because ofcourse we gotta go all the way
up and fucking look at shit andwhatnot.
That was the only spot we foundfootprints.
SPEAKER_04 (36:39):
Oh no.
SPEAKER_08 (36:40):
Um they were about average adult person size.
Like it was, they weren't likelittle, you know, it wasn't like
the doll was walking around.
Like those are the onlyfootprints.
And the footprints were from themiddle of the in the direction,
they started in the middle ofthe of the attic, of the floor
of the area, and it walkedtowards the when you come up the
(37:03):
when you came up the stairs, youit was looking straight ahead.
So it was like you were comingup like the west side of the
house, and you were lookingacross to the east.
You from the left and you werelooking straight to the right.
SPEAKER_01 (37:11):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (37:12):
So if they were from the center, like it was walking
from that direction, like fromthe center towards the right,
and they stopped at the wind.
They just stopped like they werewalking and they stopped to
stare at the window.
That's where the it was just oneset of footprints, just from the
dead center out to their radius,and they stopped there.
SPEAKER_04 (37:31):
No, don't like that.
SPEAKER_08 (37:33):
When I saw that, I was just like, like it was me
and the other three guys thatwent up there.
We all looked at it, and we allunanimously, you know, like it
was a couple of the likejackassy dudes who were always
like, Oh, you know, it's like,oh, we should fuck with the
girls.
Yeah, so we're like banging onlike walls and shit, like, oh my
god, what was that, right?
The fuck with everybody?
When we got up there and we sawthat one, we all unanimously
looked at each other, goes, Weshould get the fuck out of here.
SPEAKER_00 (37:52):
Right.
I was gonna say, look at thetime.
We got the side.
I swear, yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (37:54):
We looked at that, I swear that's where we said we
should get the fuck out of here.
So we're all leaving so on andso forth.
And then the girls were tryingto get into the basement, and
we're like, nope, nope, let'sjust leave the fucking basement.
So we never went into thebasement.
We never went into the basement.
SPEAKER_10 (38:06):
It's probably a good thing.
SPEAKER_08 (38:08):
We just we just did it, but we just we just got the
fuck out of there and we toldthe girls what we saw.
And it was just like, you canfucking go back and you can look
because I'm not fucking going,dude.
SPEAKER_05 (38:15):
No, right, no, absolutely not.
SPEAKER_08 (38:17):
Girls, oh my god, what fuck this is the the other
part that really fucked with me.
What made me think of all thiswas when you were saying that
like time is different and so onand so forth.
SPEAKER_10 (38:25):
Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_08 (38:28):
Not that we were like a fucking like team that
like synchronized our watchesand bullshit, because I don't
think any of us actually had awatch, but all of our phones
were at different times.
Oh I wish I wish I was fucking Iwish I was fucking they were all
off by like anywhere from likeit was like three minutes to
(38:51):
like you know, the the one thatwas the most that was the
closest of the time, it was itwas only three minutes ahead.
And that was the girl, the girlthat took the picture of my
girlfriend.
Her phone was only off by likethree minutes, it was just like
three minutes ahead or so on andso forth.
And then went all the way out tothe um our buddy Pedro that was
with us.
He uh what's called his was offby like an hour and like 17
(39:14):
minutes or some shit like that.
That's all at like random, therewas there was no pattern
whatsoever to each one, eachevery single one of the phones
was off.
And then by the time we got backto her house, we were just
that's when we had noticed itthat like Arpa was like, what
the fuck's with our phones orwhatever?
And like no one really waspaying attention.
And we're like, what the fuck,and whatever.
And then we just like huh?
(39:35):
And they're like wait a minute,like these you know, this was
also at the time where like youknow, if there was a time
change, your phones did itautomatically, yeah.
That's like going so like no onewould have like, oh, we didn't
fuck with our phones or like itjust switched.
That is so wild.
I swe I swear to fucking god.
I swear to fucking god.
I swear to fucking god.
(39:57):
Um but yeah, and then justwhatever the hell it was, and we
still like there was no rhyme,there was no reason.
And one of the one of the guyskind of went off the rails, and
then we kind of didn't we wekind of still he alienated
himself from the group andwhatever because he went down
the rabbit hole really bad.
(40:17):
Oh he was like he was like,There's gotta be a pattern,
there's gotta be this, there'sgotta be healing.
Oh my god, we never went back tothe house.
Like we went into the woods, butwe never went that area ever
again.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Never went in that directionafter that fucking day.
SPEAKER_01 (40:32):
We just No, I don't blame you at all.
SPEAKER_08 (40:35):
Absolutely did not.
We still like I said, we stillfucked around in the woods and
also that kind of punch itbefore we saw like the weird
things.
Absolutely never went thatdirection ever again.
Um he always wanted to was like,dude, we're not we're not going
back.
I was like, listen, let's justYeah, no, no, bro.
We're fucking scared.
Like, right?
We're not going.
We're not.
SPEAKER_09 (40:51):
No, no, we're not.
SPEAKER_08 (40:52):
Like, we're all just like, let's all be fucking
adults here.
Like, fuck no, dude.
SPEAKER_04 (40:57):
Absolutely not.
I don't blame you at all.
SPEAKER_08 (41:00):
There's gotta be this, there's gotta be that.
And I was like, no, dude,there's gotta be nothing.
Absolutely not.
And then I was like, I was like,I watched way too many fucking
movies.
Like, we're a bunch of teenagersin an area where we shouldn't be
fucking around in a house.
It was like, no, absolutely.
We're gonna go to the police,and they're gonna fucking just
you're just crazy kids, you weretrespassing anyway, and all this
(41:21):
other kind of fun stuff.
Next thing we're all gonna startfucking dying one by one.
Absolutely not.
SPEAKER_04 (41:25):
It's the perfect scenario.
SPEAKER_08 (41:27):
I've seen every fucking horror movie that came
out of the 80s.
Absolutely fucking not.
Absolutely fucking not.
You know?
I was like, because let's justbe honest with it.
And he goes, like, he's theathlete, I'm the whore.
We're the first two to get it.
We're the first two to die.
(41:47):
So yeah, but no, he he alienatedhimself, and we all just like
stopped talking because he justhe became incredibly obsessive
of it.
I think last he heard of it, hemoved.
Last I heard of him, he moved toone of those fuckhole states in
the heartland, like Nebraska orsome shit.
No, dude, no offense if you livein Nebraska or whatever.
SPEAKER_00 (42:08):
You know, probably no, I don't.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (42:10):
Well, no, not just you, any of our listeners too.
Not just you, but but any of anyof our listeners too.
No offense if you live inNebraska.
SPEAKER_02 (42:17):
Sorry.
SPEAKER_08 (42:18):
Oh my god, it's the guy.
He found me.
SPEAKER_04 (42:21):
Yeah.
You never know.
It's the one guy.
SPEAKER_05 (42:25):
Yeah, it's that fucking guy.
SPEAKER_04 (42:26):
He's still going down the rabbit hole.
Pretty crazy.
SPEAKER_08 (42:30):
I I swear to God, like I said, I know.
Like I just went this wholething we were talking about.
I was like, but I need you guysto fucking believe me that this
is a true story.
I swear to God.
SPEAKER_02 (42:39):
I completely believe you.
No, I believe you.
No, my story was completebullshit.
SPEAKER_04 (42:46):
It was great though.
It was a great story.
SPEAKER_08 (42:48):
And I wasn't bullshitting you, and I was just
like, my heart was actuallygoing like a little bit.
Like it was like it kind of, Idon't want to say it was like
coming out of my chest, but itkind of it it it peeked through
my nipple, like, fuck's goingon.
SPEAKER_02 (43:01):
Well, do you remember that one time, Kyle,
you said you were like a youwere you're like a mountain goat
sitting on the edge of yourseat?
SPEAKER_08 (43:08):
Oh yeah.
And then I fell.
SPEAKER_02 (43:09):
Yeah, that's how that's how I was through your
story.
I was like, tell me more.
Yes.
SPEAKER_08 (43:14):
Yeah.
If every now and then I get alittle upset that we didn't go
into the basement, but then I'llwatch something like I know what
you did last summer, or like Anyof the Fight of the 13th, and
I'm like, you know what?
I'm happy we didn't go into thatbasement.
SPEAKER_02 (43:28):
Yeah, see, I would have had to go in the basement,
but that's me.
SPEAKER_08 (43:32):
Absolutely Absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
And the doll and the footprint.
Yeah, no.
Honestly, what what said I thinkI I probably would have gone to
the attic and we wouldn't havegotten out of that house if it
wasn't for the footprints.
The footprints fucking Yeah,that's crazy.
SPEAKER_01 (43:48):
They say they just started in this, yeah, no.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (43:52):
Because they looked like how do I how do I fucking
they look like they would befrom old shoes.
You know what I mean?
It's like bottom of shoes, youknow, vans have this specific
design to them.
Converse, they they all havelike designs to them.
SPEAKER_06 (44:05):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (44:06):
But like old shoes are just like flat.
There's just the shape of whatyou step in, right?
There's no like so weird.
There's no actual attractionthing.
So they looked like they wouldbe like old shoes, like the
bottom of dress shoes.
They're just slick, they justhave a shape to them.
That's literally what the thethe fucking the shoe print look
the footprint looked like.
SPEAKER_03 (44:23):
Wow, that's so crazy.
I was like, nah, that isfascinating.
SPEAKER_08 (44:27):
I was like, let's get the fuck out of here.
Let's get the fuck out.
SPEAKER_04 (44:33):
Wow.
Yeah.
Well, thank you for sharingthat.
That is awesome.
SPEAKER_08 (44:38):
You're very welcome.
You're very welcome sharingthat.
For me sharing that.
Word stuff things.
What was actually kind of crazywas things.
I think it was last year, yearbefore.
It wasn't too too long ago whenwe when we went back to
Connecticut.
We had to go driving up, we hadto kind of drive up that way to
get onto the that big highwaythat it attached to was kind of
(44:58):
like taking the back roads onlike that big highway to get the
fuck out of Connecticut.
So we had to go up that way.
And it was, I don't know,there's a little part of me that
was like, oh, this is kind oflike kind of nostalgic, because
like this was the girl I datedthrough like a lot of high
school.
Like I think out of like the outof like the four years, I think
maybe like two and a half, giveor take three years if you add
up all the get-togethers andbreakups.
(45:20):
It's probably about two, two anda half years that we dated.
Um so it was kind of nostalgic,kind of like going down memory
lane or whatever, and like wedrove past those woods, and the
area that's like directly acrossthe street from where her house
was, it is all developed by somefucking I it's like Anthem.
I think like Anthem has abuilding there, like Blue Cross,
Blue Shield, and all that shit.
SPEAKER_05 (45:41):
Oh wow.
SPEAKER_08 (45:41):
Um Yeah, I think they have an area right there.
Um and so that whole entire areais whatever, but like but you
still see like the woods kind ofoff like it's all that area that
where that um where that oneroad is, I said that like kind
of goes through and it cuts intolike that little highway area.
It's all that area that'sdeveloped.
So the rest of the woods that wewould like go in and like screw
around in is still there.
SPEAKER_10 (46:03):
But I'm like, Do you think the house is still there?
SPEAKER_06 (46:06):
Uh you know what?
If I never know, I can diehappy.
SPEAKER_05 (46:17):
Thanks for that.
I don't know, Menomina.
SPEAKER_00 (46:22):
But when I do, I do do do do.
SPEAKER_02 (46:26):
Now I'm gonna be so that was Maddie, that was Maddie
calling me.
I'm so sorry.
SPEAKER_08 (46:32):
Let's please make that the soundbite for this
episode, please.
SPEAKER_00 (46:35):
Please do.
SPEAKER_08 (46:38):
And and just the bit where like I'm talking and then
it plays, and then it's likethat two seconds of silence
afterwards where we just kind oflike, and who was that?
Oh, that's great.
But uh anywho, yeah, uh, if Inever know current state of that
(46:59):
house, I could die happy.
SPEAKER_02 (47:01):
Yeah, that's true.
SPEAKER_08 (47:02):
I'm I'm good.
I'm good.
SPEAKER_02 (47:04):
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Tag us, talk to us on socialmedia, um, and tell us what your
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favorite urban legend is orweird encounter.
Um, and don't forget to followHeather on Tell Me a Scary Story
Podcast and look for her on allsocials and on Spotify and soon
to be YouTube.
Is that correct, Heather?
SPEAKER_04 (47:45):
Yes, I do have like a couple things.
I actually have a collab onYouTube right now, my part.
But yeah, I'm gonna grow that.
I'm getting used to trying toget used to YouTube.
SPEAKER_02 (47:57):
Yeah, yeah.
Um, and hey, don't forget if youever come across stairs in the
woods or a creepy house thatshouldn't be there, take photos
first, then rums or con.
SPEAKER_03 (48:13):
Photos of you breaking in.
SPEAKER_02 (48:14):
Right, not photos of you breaking in.
But hey, we're not here to tellyou how to live.
So until next time, staycurious, stay weird, and
whatever you do, don't lookback.
Heather, it's been a pleasurehaving you with us.
Uh, thank you for having me.
Just wasn't too chaotic for you.
SPEAKER_04 (48:33):
This is like you all being in my brain all the time.
That's what I'm like.
SPEAKER_02 (48:41):
Oh, thank you so much for stopping by.
Uh so with that, I'll saygoodbye.
Goodbye.
Kyle, say goodbye.
SPEAKER_05 (48:51):
I am Groot.
SPEAKER_02 (48:57):
Oh, Lord.
All right.
Once again, no what I'm supposedto do with that.
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Note to self.
SPEAKER_09 (49:25):
I learned that today.
SPEAKER_00 (49:27):
That's interesting.
You learned that today.
SPEAKER_02 (49:31):
From a therapist.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (49:33):
Oh no, therapist.
Wow.
SPEAKER_02 (49:37):
That's a fucking revelation though.
That's interesting.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (49:43):
Well, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER_02 (49:46):
Yeah.
Hi, everybody.
Guess what?
We have just solved all yourgagging issues.
Just smile.
But you still see like the woods kind of off like
it's all that area that wherethat um where that one road is,
I said that like kind of goesthrough and it cuts into like
that little highway area.
It's all that area that'sdeveloped.
So the rest of the woods that wewould like go in and like screw
around in is still there.
SPEAKER_10 (00:16):
So you think the house is still there?
SPEAKER_08 (00:18):
Uh you know what?
SPEAKER_06 (00:19):
If I never know, I can die happy.
SPEAKER_05 (00:29):
Thanks for that.
SPEAKER_08 (00:32):
I don't always monomina, but when I do, I do do
do do.
SPEAKER_02 (00:38):
Now when do we see that before we begin today's
episode, we would like to sharea quick disclaimer.
(00:58):
The views, opinions, andstatements expressed by the
hosts and guests on this podcastare their own personal views and
are provided in their owncapacity.
All content is editorial,opinion-based, and intended for
entertainment purposes only.
Listener discretion is advised.
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Tonight we're going deep intothe forest, not the kind marked
with trails and campfire songs,but the kind where the trees
lean in too close and the quietfeels like it's watching you.
Now, maybe you've heard thestories staircases in the woods,
just standing there.
No ruins, no houses, no logicalreason for them to exist.
(01:43):
Some say it's a hoax, others sayit's a government cover-up.
But those who found them, theydon't talk much about it.
And the ones who do, they neverclimb them, or if they do, they
don't come back the same.
Welcome back to the show.
I'm Angela, and as always,riding Shotgun.
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I have Kaya with me.
How are you doing?
SPEAKER_08 (02:06):
I am Groot.
SPEAKER_02 (02:12):
And today we have a very special guest.
Um, we have Heather from Tell Mea Scary Story Podcast.
We're so excited to have youwith us today.
SPEAKER_04 (02:22):
I'm excited to be here.
SPEAKER_02 (02:24):
Well, how are you doing?
And do you want to tell ourlisteners a little bit about
yourself and your podcast?
Well, sure.
Hi, I'm Heather.
SPEAKER_04 (02:33):
Obviously, Tell Me a Scary Story is my podcast where
I talk about all things, well,scary and spooky from cryptids
to UFOs to hauntings tosometimes even some true crime.
And yeah, I love it all.
So if you are interested in thatstuff, hop on over and you can
find me on Spotify, on TikTok,kind of on Instagram and barely
(02:57):
on YouTube, but I'm gonna workon that.
SPEAKER_02 (03:02):
Well, you you definitely have some great
stuff.
I've been uh listening to all ofyour episodes and it's
phenomenal work.
So thank you.
Yeah, we're we're so happy tohave you.
Oh, that means so much.
Thank you.
So, Heather and Kyle, are youfamiliar with the phenomena of
stairs in the in the woods?
SPEAKER_08 (03:23):
Uh I I know about the woods and I use the stairs
all the time.
Does that count?
I've actually hit my head on thestairs a couple of times.
SPEAKER_04 (03:33):
Oh God, not in the woods.
Not in the woods?
Not in the woods.
Not in the woods.
Okay.
I actually have heard about thisbefore.
So it's actually pretty prettyfascinating.
SPEAKER_02 (03:46):
Yeah, yeah.
So um I want to go just kind oflike where kind of the roots of
this phenomenon happened.
Um, and then we'll get into avery personal story I've been
dying to tell about an encounterwith the stairs in the woods.
Do what do what now?
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So the this phenomenon with thestairs in the woods gained a lot
of traction on Reddit or in theearly 2010s.
Um, so there was a post onReddit by an alleged uh search
and rescue officer, and it wentviral.
And basically, this guy wasclaiming that they often found
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freestanding staircases deep innational parks.
They were miles away from anyother structure.
Sometimes they would find themand they were like made of
ancient stone, overgrown withmoss.
Others were disturbingly likepristine, like we're talking
clean carpet, no debris, nodust.
And some of them looked likethey had just been placed there
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yesterday.
And according to this story, theSAR teams were warned if you
ever see one of the stairs,don't go near it and never climb
it.
There was never any officialexplanation given, just a quiet
understanding that stairs foundin the forest were wrong and you
don't do anything with them.
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But the interesting thing isthat it it didn't stop at just
one post.
Soon there were reports kind ofpopping up from all over the
world (05:24):
Germany, Sweden, the Philippines.
There was even a story from thejungles in Cambodia where the
stairs led into the canopy andthen just stopped.
So they often report that noneof them had foundations.
But the thing that the threadthat kind of combines all of the
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stories was that all of themreported that something seemed
off, that there was like a deadzone in the air.
There, you know, like birds,there were no noises, like
everything just sound just sortof dropped.
Um, and then they also reportedthat time seemed to move
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differently.
SPEAKER_01 (06:07):
Oh, interesting.
SPEAKER_02 (06:08):
What the fuck?
Yeah.
So what do you think?
SPEAKER_04 (06:12):
I mean, what just trying to Kyle's enthralled
right now.
SPEAKER_08 (06:17):
He's like, Kyle's enthralled is so bad.
I'm doing I wish you guys couldsee me.
I'm doing my best not to justlike laugh like uncontrollably
at this because when when youfirst pitched this idea that
this was the topic, we were allthis other kind of fun stuff.
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I sat there and for like atleast a day or two, I was
looking for Ashton Kusher tolike pop out of my refrigerator
or something.
Or I was like, I'm being punked,right?
This has got to be the mostridiculous fucking thing we've
ever talked about.
SPEAKER_09 (06:52):
It's a legit thing.
Yeah, it is.
SPEAKER_08 (06:55):
Well, um, he was telling me this, and it's like,
I'm just picturing what it'slike playing Minecraft with me.
Like you're just walkingthrough, next thing you know,
there's a fucking staircase thatI just got bored with and
stopped building.
There's just a random thing inthe middle of the fucking wet.
Just a random fucking.
I'm seeing like concrete stairsand like a railing, and then it
(07:15):
just stops.
SPEAKER_02 (07:17):
Yeah, exactly.
Well, that yeah, that's that'sexactly yeah.
That's exactly it.
SPEAKER_08 (07:23):
I'm still I'm still waiting to wake up because this
is the most asinant thing I'veever fucking heard of.
SPEAKER_02 (07:30):
Well, then let me tell you a story, a firsthand
account.
unknown (07:37):
Oh my god.
SPEAKER_08 (07:39):
Respectfully.
SPEAKER_04 (07:40):
Great, thank you.
That song is now in my head.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (07:43):
What can I say except I'll stop?
SPEAKER_02 (07:47):
All right.
So this is my first hand story.
And I know when people hearstories like this, you know,
they say, Oh, you know, you'vehad you had too much weed, or
you've seen too many horrormovies.
Uh, you've sleep deprivation,trauma, you know, it all the
(08:08):
things.
And I'm all I've always beenlike, fine, believe whatever
makes you feel safe.
But this is my story.
And I will say that somethinghappened to me.
And I feel like I need to saythis out loud right now before I
lose the nerve to tell thisstory.
So this was in the fall of 2022.
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I was backpacking in WestVirginia with my friend Ethan
and my dog Severus.
We'd been going off trail moreand more, trying to explore
areas most people don't touch,old growth forest, you know,
places where there's no celltowers, no noise, no people.
We just wanted wind, birds, andto really feel that we were, you
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know, in ancient AppalachiaMountains.
But the thing, we weren't reallyeven supposed to be there
because it was consideredoff-grid exploring.
That's what Ethan always calledit.
I called it trespassing on landsthat we were not supposed to be
at.
SPEAKER_08 (09:14):
Oh, like actual, like actual fruit, like signs
like don't fucking go here.
SPEAKER_02 (09:18):
Yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_09 (09:20):
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (09:22):
So this was on the third day, and we set out from
our camp around 10 a.m.
And we were hiking along a gametrail when Severus stopped just
dead.
His ears were pinned back, hishackles were raised, and then he
bolted off into the trees,growling like he had lost his
(09:43):
damn mind.
And, you know, we just went outand we started chasing him.
And I want to say, like, wechased him for about 15-20
minutes, and then we found him,and he was sitting completely
calm, and he was next to astaircase, and it was a
staircase that was just there.
It was wooden, painted white,but the paint was like peeling
(10:08):
kind of like sunburned skin.
And there were seven steps tothe staircase, and then there
was a small landing, and thennothing above it.
There was no structure, noruins.
It really looked like it didn'tbelong in this place in the
woods.
And I remember Ethan, he waslaughing, saying, you know,
(10:28):
like, oh, look at this.
We found somebody's, you know,treehouse escape route or
something.
Um, so he was, you know, justmaking jokes about it.
But I couldn't move.
Something felt wrong.
It was like something wasintruding on us, or we were
intruding on it.
It was wrong in the sense, likeit felt like something was
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watching us.
Like whatever this was hadturned around to face us when we
arrived.
SPEAKER_01 (10:56):
Oh no, don't like that.
SPEAKER_02 (10:57):
And Ethan, kind of being the jokester that he
always was, he went up thestairs.
Like, of course, he he had noqualms whatsoever.
He always wanted to be the braveone and always made a joke out
of everything.
So he climbed all seven steps,stood on the landing, and
grinned at me.
And he was like, see, nothinghappens.
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And he started bouncing on it,joking, taunting.
And then all of a sudden,Severus started barking again.
But it was like this panicked,high-pitched bark, like he was
trying to warn us.
It was something like between abark and a whelp.
It was very odd.
And that's when Ethan changed.
And I don't, it wasn't likeanything like he changed, like
(11:40):
he was being dramatic or likenothing cinematic.
It was just like his faceshifted.
He went pale and he stoppedsmiling.
And then he like blinked realslow.
It I swear it was like somebodycoming out of anesthesia.
And he walked back down thestairs, but not all the way.
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He just walked six steps andthen he stood there.
He just stopped, not talking,not moving.
He was just staring into theforest like he was waiting for
something.
And I kept calling to him andnothing.
I took a step forward, andthat's when Severus he lunged at
my leg and he he actually bitme, bit me hard, drew blood.
(12:23):
Like he had he had never doneanything like that before, ever.
And it was like he was trying tohold me back or redirect me in
some way.
Eventually, Ethan turned to meand his voice was very flat, and
he was like, Let's go back.
We've been out long enough.
Except I didn't think we reallyhad.
Um he was the one that, youknow, like insisted that we, you
(12:48):
know, take a few more days.
He was the one who packed allthe extra gear.
He wanted to take this off-gridpath, but yet he was saying,
like, we've been out, we've beencamping long enough.
And and the thing is, he when heleft the stairs, he didn't even
look at me when he spoke.
He just walked right past me andstarted for back the way that we
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came to that part of the forest.
So the weird part is we wereonly gone about an hour, right?
So my watch was like a littleafter 11.
But when we made it back tocamp, the sun was gone and it
was nighttime.
It was pitch black, cold, deadof night.
The fire we had left smolderingwas long dead.
(13:33):
Um smoldering.
Smoldering, I know.
As soon as I was like, here wego.
SPEAKER_08 (13:39):
I couldn't help myself.
I could not help myself.
SPEAKER_02 (13:42):
But um, when I asked him what time he thought it was,
he just looked at me and said,It's always been this time.
And I was like, What the fuck?
It sounds like he's possessed.
Right.
And that's like the moment Iknew that I didn't think this
was my friend anymore.
Like something was seriouslydifferent.
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And that night I didn't sleep.
I kept one hand on Severus, onehand on my hatchet, and Ethan
sat by the the the fire allnight just watching it.
Going out of bed.
You're right, not warminghimself.
He was just staring into theashes.
(14:23):
So, and then around 3 a.m., Iheard him whisper, and it
sounded like he was sayingsomething's underneath.
SPEAKER_04 (14:31):
Oh, hell no.
SPEAKER_02 (14:32):
And I just pretended to sleep, and then he whispered
again, and this time like hiswhisper was very close, but he
was not like there was no one inthe tent with me, but I could
hear him whisper, it likes yourvoice.
Oh.
So as soon as first as soon asfirst light hit, I packed very
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quietly.
I knew I had to get out ofthere, and Ethan didn't stop me.
He stood and watched me, and hishead was just was like tilted in
this weird, like slightlyoff-kelter tilt of his head.
Um, and Severus never left myside.
I mean, he would not let me outof his sight.
So I sat on a path, and here'sthe thing though: the map no
(15:21):
longer was the map that likewhere I was in the woods
changed.
The paths didn't match up towhat was on the map, and there
were all these weird carvingsand trees that I never noticed
before.
It was like runes carved intotrees, and then I saw another
staircase, and then I keptseeing another staircase.
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And each time, each staircasewas a little taller and a little
cleaner, and like a littlecloser to me.
And I started running.
And I swear to you, it was likethe trees were moving with me.
It was like they were trying toclose in around me, and like the
wind was whipping, and itsounded like there were whispers
in the wind.
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And that's when I saw it.
I saw a shadowed figure thatmoved out of the trees, and it
was whispering my name, and Ijust kept bolting.
I finally made it to a rangerstation, and then I just
collapsed on the porch, and Iwas covered in scratches.
Severus was still barking mad,and the ranger he came out and
(16:29):
he looked so confused.
He he genuinely looked like hesaw a ghost, and then he stood
up.
That's when Ethan caught up tous, and he turned like even a
another pale shade of pale, ifyou can if you can imagine that.
And he said, Oh my god, you'rethat hiker from three years ago.
(16:53):
And I thought it was a joke.
I was like, What are I what areyou talking about?
And he pulled up this file andshowed me this report, and it
had my name and Ethan's name,and it said, Missing, presumed
dead, last seen October 9th,2017, bodies and dog never
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recovered.
And that was my name on thatreport.
That was us, and we'd only beenthere for three days, right?
Like, right, and I can tell youafter all these years, I can say
that I'm here, I'm in my home orsomewhere like it.
But sometimes when I close myeyes, I I still see those
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stairs, I see them in myhallway.
Uh, and it's just like it'ssomething is just waiting for
me.
And I haven't seen Ethan sincethat trip, but I swear sometimes
it's like I can hear his voicein the vents or in the woods
behind my house.
So that's my story.
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What do you think?
SPEAKER_08 (17:59):
Well, I think it'll be easy to sleep tonight, that's
for sure.
SPEAKER_02 (18:02):
Right?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
So do you feel brave enough totake a solo hiking trip this
fall?
Nope.
Nope.
Well, I have a confession.
I have a confession.
So that story was just a creepypasta I made up just for fun.
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I've never had a friend namedEthan.
SPEAKER_08 (18:26):
I was like, what's I was listening I was completely
sold until you said your dog,Severus?
And I'm like, bullshit.
Like bullshit.
SPEAKER_04 (18:36):
I was like, great name.
SPEAKER_08 (18:38):
Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (18:39):
Nice name.
What?
If I had a dog, if I had a dog,you don't think I would name it
Severus?
SPEAKER_08 (18:44):
I didn't know you don't got no fucking dog.
SPEAKER_00 (18:49):
That's true.
SPEAKER_04 (18:50):
It was really well, I I'm applauding.
It was really good.
It was really creepy.
I loved it and it freaked meout.
SPEAKER_08 (18:57):
Listen, I swear to God.
God is my witness, got somewhere the fuck I don't give me
an upside-down backwards ChineseBraille Bible with half the
pages missing.
I'll swear on that too.
I kind of felt my heart going.
I was like, wait a minute, thisis kind of creepy.
I swear to God.
SPEAKER_02 (19:15):
Yeah, but here's the thing.
I don't have a dog now, but youdon't know what I had in 2022.
I could have had a dog in 2017.
SPEAKER_08 (19:22):
My damn friend Ethan went no fucking stairs and
severed the dog.
I don't know goddamn well.
But you and I have been aroundthe block doing this a little
while.
You and I had someconversations.
SPEAKER_02 (19:36):
True.
True.
SPEAKER_08 (19:36):
You would never brought up none of these
motherfuckers before.
I was gonna be like, show me thecarfax.
Show me the carfax.
At some point, one of them wouldhave been brought up.
At some point.
SPEAKER_02 (19:52):
This is very true.
This is very true.
Yeah, yep.
But so I wrote that just to kindof demonstrate like how real
some of these stories are.
And that's the thing.
You know, are they real?
Are they fiction?
Are they, you know, like thereare people who swear that
they've seen them.
(20:14):
Um, and then you have thesestories, just like the one that
I wrote, pop up, you know, onReddit in different sites all
all the time that people findthese.
SPEAKER_08 (20:25):
Okay.
So here's my follow-up questionto that.
Are you really Angela or are youthat guy who was on Star Trek
The Next Generation, and then hehad that show Beyond Belief,
Fact or Fiction, and all thestories.
And at the end of the show, youhad to figure out if it was a
real story or not.
Because is that what we're doingright now?
Is that what this fuckingepisode is?
SPEAKER_00 (20:44):
Yes.
SPEAKER_08 (20:45):
Because one, I fucking love that.
I fucking love that show.
SPEAKER_00 (20:48):
I haven't seen that forever.
SPEAKER_08 (20:50):
I fucking love that show.
And every now and then I just Ilove the reels and the TikToks
and the memes where it's likewhat it's like having a toddler.
It's just a complex video.
If you ever ride bikes, you knowsomeone with weird.
What about flip?
How long do you think it takesto blow up a balloon?
Like, you fucking love it.
SPEAKER_04 (21:07):
I've seen those for ADHD, and like that's me.
Yes.
SPEAKER_08 (21:12):
It's my autism on ADHD having a conversation in
the brain.
SPEAKER_00 (21:22):
Oh my gosh.
Me trying to make friends.
SPEAKER_07 (21:34):
You want to be on a podcast and or hear about some
fucking standards?
SPEAKER_00 (21:38):
That's right.
SPEAKER_02 (21:39):
Good luck sleeping tonight.
Yeah, it's the only way I knowhow to make friends.
Just talk about creepy shit.
Heck yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (21:50):
Well, yeah, you're you got well you you you're
you're you're averaging likewhat, like a 70 average right
now for making new friends onthe internet, right?
SPEAKER_10 (22:01):
Yeah, probably.
SPEAKER_08 (22:03):
That's all right.
I was a C student.
It's okay.
SPEAKER_02 (22:07):
C student.
I was a C student.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that's the thing with withuh yeah, internet friends.
It's like a box of chocolates.
You never know what you're gonnaget.
SPEAKER_00 (22:16):
You really don't know what you're gonna get.
That's true.
SPEAKER_08 (22:20):
I thought it was an imagined eight ball, you just
shake it up and see what thefuck it's gonna say.
Hey, are you a new friend?
SPEAKER_02 (22:24):
Don't count on it.
Right.
I mean that later.
SPEAKER_08 (22:31):
Are you gonna be a lifelong friend or are you gonna
be a lesson?
SPEAKER_02 (22:35):
Yes.
SPEAKER_08 (22:37):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (22:39):
It's a lifelong lesson.
Yeah.
So um, you know, that's that'sreally all I had on this on this
staircase.
You know, it's it's just thisweird phenomenon that seems to
have popped up, you know, um,from the early 2000s on.
And, you know, there's a lot oftheories and interpretations,
(23:00):
you know, and that's and that'sI guess the question that I'm
posing.
Do you buy into like, is itpossible?
And if there are stairs, is itjust ruins from like an old
settlement or something that wasthere?
But the thing that that strikesme is like the time distortion.
You know, people uh on all ofthese stories, they they talk
about how time kind of slipsaway.
(23:22):
And there seems to be like, evenwith and and Heather, you
probably know this from youknow, kind of studying hauntings
and stuff, um, you know, thereare there are cases where people
can go into haunted houses, um,and it's like time, time does
funny things, you know?
SPEAKER_04 (23:41):
Oh yeah, a hundred percent.
You'll think you're in there foran hour and just kind of like
your story, well, you're notgone for three years, but you
know, it's a lot longer thanthat.
I mean, there are people,especially in in cases of
people, you know, supposedlybeing possessed and stuff, they
they lose time.
SPEAKER_08 (24:01):
I could start with another story.
And I listen, listen, I know howthis is.
SPEAKER_02 (24:05):
Do you have a Kyle?
Do you have a story aboutfinding a fucking staircase in
the goddamn woods?
SPEAKER_08 (24:12):
I have one about finding a box in the middle of
the woods.
SPEAKER_02 (24:15):
Okay, well then.
SPEAKER_08 (24:17):
I swear to God I do.
I swear to God I do.
SPEAKER_02 (24:19):
Okay.
SPEAKER_08 (24:22):
Jokes.
No.
Um this was oh, many winter ago.
Picture this, Sicily, 1922.
SPEAKER_02 (24:30):
I knew it.
I knew it.
SPEAKER_00 (24:31):
I knew you were gonna do that.
Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_08 (24:37):
Picture this.
West Haven, Connecticut, 2000.
Nine.
2009, 2010, give or take.
Um it was uh I was dating thisgirl and literally like right,
kind of like right in herbackyard, there was like this
(25:01):
wooded area that there was likethis gate that was there and it
was all chained off andwhatever, I guess.
I think it was like the watercompany or like the electric
company or something.
I don't know, one of the bigIt's electric.
SPEAKER_10 (25:14):
Boogie, boogie, boogie.
Boogie, boogie, boogie.
Hey you guys.
SPEAKER_08 (25:18):
One of one of those kind of fucking infrastructure
whatever the fucks owned allthat land.
And technically, like yourstory, it was trespassing to go
there or whatever, but we wereteenagers and stupid and didn't
give a shit.
And um a lot of times, like onlike the weekends, like a bunch
of the friends we would gettogether, and like some
teenagers would do, we'd just goand like fuck around in the
woods.
(25:38):
Right?
And so we would just and mainlyjust because like I'm obsessed
with the woods and always wantedto go there, and mainly because
some of the other kids there,they wanted to try to find
places to grow marijuana's, butthey're stupid.
Anywho, so every now and then wewould just kind of go through we
just go for walks and hikesthrough the the woods, because
there was like actual likewalking trails and hiking trails
(25:59):
and shit.
And you know, each time we wouldgo, we'd go a little bit
farther, a little bit fartherhere, a little bit farther
there, and we would find somekind of weird, kind of random
shit there.
Like uh I guess a bunch of otherpeople would use that as like
paintball and airsoft andwhatnot.
So there was like they like madebarricades in this kind of
open-y area.
(26:19):
So it was just kind of cool likesee that and just other buttons
of folks saying, okay, so wejust keep going further and
further.
And then there was like a um Ithink it was a foundation to to
a house.
And um it was just likeconcrete, it was like a concrete
like rectangle, you know, downseven, eight feet.
But there was never anything uhbuilt on it.
(26:42):
There was no kind of remnantsaround it.
Like there wasn't like piles ofwood, there wasn't driveways,
there was no other kind of like,oh, there used to be a road
here, and then however manydecades, you know, the part of
town just whatever they close itoff in just the woods and they
just let it nature take it back.
None of that.
It was just a random kind ofconcrete foundation hole in the
(27:02):
ground.
SPEAKER_01 (27:03):
Interesting.
SPEAKER_08 (27:04):
Which was kind of like weird because it was like I
thought it was like in themiddle of the fucking woods.
Yeah.
There was no it wasn't likeright off of the I said, because
like w whatever infrastructurething owned this, the area that
was gated off, there was a road.
There was a paved road that youwould go, I don't know, maybe
like a quarter of a mile intotal length, it would kind of
go down this one way, and thenit looped around to the corner
(27:27):
to the other like main kind ofhighway thing that was there.
Now, if it was something thatwas just off that, oh, they
bought it and they were gonnadevelop the area, but then they
backed out.
This was like at least a mileaway from that in the middle of
the fucking woods.
SPEAKER_01 (27:41):
Wow, that's great.
SPEAKER_08 (27:42):
And then you look a little bit farther down, same
thing, you same thing.
There's a like the tree line, alittle bit past the tree lines,
you can see through it.
There's another like opening,another clearing.
It's like fuck it, let's headout to that clearing there.
Let's see what the fuck's overthere.
So we went to that clearing, andright on the edge of that
clearing, there is his house.
(28:03):
Swear to god, swear to fuckingcat.
Just his random house.
And same thing, there's like thethe trees are kind of it's
almost like the area was s kindof cleared out, oval-esque-ish,
whatever you want to say.
Um, but there was no roads in orout to this.
And there's no inkling thatthere were roads, and there was
no there was there was just likedirt paths from shit like this.
(28:27):
Of like there wasn't anything,there was no way to get to this
building.
There never was a way to get tothis building.
SPEAKER_01 (28:32):
Oh wow.
SPEAKER_08 (28:34):
I swear to fucking god.
SPEAKER_01 (28:35):
That is so weird.
SPEAKER_08 (28:36):
But then all but then on it too, it's it's not
only just a house, but it'sboarded up, it's abandoned.
So and I swear to god, if I cango like through, I will find
pictures through my Facebook ofthe house.
Yes, proof that this house I'mnot lying right now.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
One of the times when so when wefound this house, it was just me
(28:57):
and my girlfriend at the time.
And uh we were she was justlike, I'm not fucking going over
there, get the fuck out of here.
And uh I was like, you knowwhat?
Alright, fair enough.
And if I'm gonna be completelyhonest, yeah, I'm not brave
enough to fucking do that bymyself either, absolutely not.
And he goes, and plus the otherbuffoons are gonna want to see
this anyway.
So like a couple days later, umwe watch a call.
(29:18):
So, you know, we we all go overto her house again and we go
back to the fucking to you know,same way through to the house,
to the whatever.
And I was like, okay, so it wasat the fucking the the the
foundation thing.
It was like to the left and likethrough the clearing.
So we get to the foundationthing, and I'm telling you, it
it looked noticeably older.
(29:40):
Like there wasn't any like mossor ivy or anything growing on
it.
I'm not a horticulturist, I'mnot poison ivy, I'm not I don't
know how fast that kind of shitgrows, but I know that like you
know, I know for like um liketrees and shit to grow on, like
Rocks, those rocks have to belike thousands of fucking years
(30:02):
old.
You know what I mean?
It's just and there was like thefoundation was pretty solid.
When I tell you that it was inpretty you could tell it was old
as been there.
It was dirty, but it wasn't likecracked, it wasn't broken or
anything like that.
One when I'm telling you, wewent back.
This was like well, like two orthree days later.
It was like Wednesday, it waslike a Wednesday where we went,
and now we're back on likeSaturday.
SPEAKER_06 (30:22):
Yeah, it's just a couple of days.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (30:24):
I'm telling you, it looked like it was like fucking
like ruins.
Like there was like all sorts oflike moss and green shit growing
on it.
There was a big fucking crackdown one side, and there's like
shit's like growing out of thatcrack.
SPEAKER_01 (30:36):
Oh wow, that's crazy.
I don't like it.
SPEAKER_08 (30:38):
I don't I I can't say whether how much how quick
shit like that grows.
So maybe it is a freak thingthat like okay, yeah, the roots
were pushing against it, and itliterally did just happen and
grow through.
I don't fucking know.
But then we get to the fuckinghouse.
The house is pretty much thehouse was the same.
It was still like boarded up.
There was like the graffiti onit and like the locks and
(31:02):
whatnot.
And um but like the locks lookedreally new.
Like someone had just placedthem within the year.
With within the year.
Oh wow.
Like within the year, they say,but there's no way to get to
this except like trucking itthrough the woods in any
direction.
So like even like later, like wewent back the the first time
(31:23):
when we found that house, I likeI went onto like Google Maps or
some shit, and I was just like,But you it it's not it wasn't on
Google Maps, it wasn't onanything, and so I went through
and yeah, don't make fun of mebecause my specific taste of
autism, thanks mom for theTylenol.
Um, is I fucking love maps.
So like and I I think I get thatfrom my father because my father
(31:45):
always has fucking maps.
And like I went through like allthe maps that he had into that
area goes, like, and there neveris anything, there never was
anything to that area.
SPEAKER_03 (31:56):
That's so strange.
SPEAKER_08 (31:57):
It should not be there.
And like where I'm kind ofguessing and triangulating it to
be, it's just forest, you know?
But there's a fucking housethere, like a fucking
three-story, like a big ass,like kind of nice house.
And uh and and the locks wererelatively new on this thing.
SPEAKER_06 (32:16):
Huh.
SPEAKER_08 (32:16):
And of course, we're stupid and we gotta break into
this thing.
SPEAKER_02 (32:20):
Oh my goodness.
I was gonna say, please tell meyou broke into it.
SPEAKER_08 (32:23):
We absolutely absolutely broke into this
fucking thing.
We a million percent broke intothis fucking thing.
Um and we get in, and it is ohyeah, it's you know, it's dusty
and it's dirty, and it's allthis other kind of fun stuff.
And I sh you're not we're we'regoing through here, we're going
through you know, we're checkingout this place, we're checking
at that place.
(32:43):
All the windows are busted out,but there's no glass uh inside.
Um, it's really dusty, butthere's no footprints.
You know, there's nothing likein the dust or whatever the hell
it is.
SPEAKER_05 (32:58):
Right.
SPEAKER_08 (32:58):
Absolutely nothing.
The house looks pretty muchundisturbed.
SPEAKER_02 (33:02):
Well, was there like furniture inside the house or
was it all just completelyempty?
SPEAKER_08 (33:08):
Absolutely empty.
SPEAKER_02 (33:09):
The only thing that was in there was walls, like
drywalls, you know, finishedwalls dry.
SPEAKER_08 (33:13):
Very old, very old.
It looked, it reminded me of thehouse from Casper.
Like very old type of wallpaper,like I don't want to say like
Victorian or Gothic, but like,you know, just kind of that.
However, you would explain thestyle of the House from Casper
or the Adams family.
(33:35):
That's kind of like a kind ofgotta see the pics.
I don't know.
I don't remember if we have alot of pictures from inside of
the house.
I think there's a couple, but Ijust I just I know there's
pictures that exist of usoutside and breaking into the
house.
So like so, like, I know youtake pictures of yourself
breaking into a house.
SPEAKER_04 (33:53):
Like people don't let people take pictures of you.
SPEAKER_00 (33:57):
Like look at what I'm doing.
SPEAKER_08 (33:59):
I told you, we were we were dumb teenagers and shit.
Well, I don't think they werelike actually taking pictures of
like the house.
It was just like it was one ofone of one of the uh one of the
girls that was there was takinga picture of my girlfriend, and
she's just standing there likesmiling, like standing on
because there was like a um whatthe fuck?
Um almost like a porch.
(34:19):
That's what we that's what wedid to climb up into the house.
We we couldn't get through anyof like the first floor windows.
We had to climb up on top of theum, you know, give give each
other a boost and help eachother up onto this like porch
awning kind of thing and breakinto the second store window.
SPEAKER_01 (34:33):
Oh my gosh, that's crazy.
SPEAKER_08 (34:35):
So there's a picture of her like standing on it with
like this stick because she waslike super, super short, and
she's with this doofy fuckingsmile, and someone took the you
know, her friend took a pictureof of her, and they there's just
three fucking jackasses in theback turn plywood off our stuff.
SPEAKER_00 (34:51):
That's the lyric nice.
SPEAKER_08 (34:54):
But um yeah, so so we're just going through and
like it's just like it's thesame thing, it's just it's kind
of eerie, it's kind of weird,you know, a little spooky
because it's just this randomfucking house.
SPEAKER_03 (35:06):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_08 (35:07):
Right?
SPEAKER_03 (35:07):
Very much like the stairs, they're just randomly
there.
SPEAKER_08 (35:11):
But all right, this is okay.
This is the part that fuckingsent me, absolutely sent me.
We had to, you know, we had toexplore all of the house and see
all of the sentences, so on andso forth.
So of course, oh hey, there'sthe attic.
Why not?
(35:33):
Oh wow.
Pull down the stairs.
Yeah, it's one of those ones wepull down the creaky fucking
stairs and the lat and thefucking down the really creaky,
crickety fucking stairs.
You climb up into it, andthere's no electricity to the
house.
There's no nothing to the house.
So we got just like our phoneflashlights and shit.
Girl, when I tell you in themiddle of the fucking attic,
(36:00):
dead center of it, there is somefucking doll.
SPEAKER_04 (36:05):
I knew it.
I knew you were gonna say doll.
SPEAKER_08 (36:07):
You knew hold on.
There's a doll sitting in themiddle of the attic.
It's not looking at the stairs,it was looking away, like I
think if I I think towards thefront of the house, like what
would be the front of the house,right?
Same thing, all the windows upthere are everything's still
boarded up and whatnot.
But what fucked me up was whenwe went up there to like look
(36:30):
at, you know, we because ofcourse we gotta go all the way
up and fucking look at shit andwhatnot.
That was the only spot we foundfootprints.
SPEAKER_04 (36:39):
Oh no.
SPEAKER_08 (36:40):
Um they were about average adult person size.
Like it was, they weren't likelittle, you know, it wasn't like
the doll was walking around.
Like those are the onlyfootprints.
And the footprints were from themiddle of the in the direction,
they started in the middle ofthe of the attic, of the floor
of the area, and it walkedtowards the when you come up the
(37:03):
when you came up the stairs, youit was looking straight ahead.
So it was like you were comingup like the west side of the
house, and you were lookingacross to the east.
You from the left and you werelooking straight to the right.
SPEAKER_01 (37:11):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (37:12):
So if they were from the center, like it was walking
from that direction, like fromthe center towards the right,
and they stopped at the wind.
They just stopped like they werewalking and they stopped to
stare at the window.
That's where the it was just oneset of footprints, just from the
dead center out to their radius,and they stopped there.
SPEAKER_04 (37:31):
No, don't like that.
SPEAKER_08 (37:33):
When I saw that, I was just like, like it was me
and the other three guys thatwent up there.
We all looked at it, and we allunanimously, you know, like it
was a couple of the likejackassy dudes who were always
like, Oh, you know, it's like,oh, we should fuck with the
girls.
Yeah, so we're like banging onlike walls and shit, like, oh my
god, what was that, right?
The fuck with everybody?
When we got up there and we sawthat one, we all unanimously
looked at each other, goes, Weshould get the fuck out of here.
SPEAKER_00 (37:52):
Right.
I was gonna say, look at thetime.
We got the side.
I swear, yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (37:54):
We looked at that, I swear that's where we said we
should get the fuck out of here.
So we're all leaving so on andso forth.
And then the girls were tryingto get into the basement, and
we're like, nope, nope, let'sjust leave the fucking basement.
So we never went into thebasement.
We never went into the basement.
SPEAKER_10 (38:06):
It's probably a good thing.
SPEAKER_08 (38:08):
We just we just did it, but we just we just got the
fuck out of there and we toldthe girls what we saw.
And it was just like, you canfucking go back and you can look
because I'm not fucking going,dude.
SPEAKER_05 (38:15):
No, right, no, absolutely not.
SPEAKER_08 (38:17):
Girls, oh my god, what fuck this is the the other
part that really fucked with me.
What made me think of all thiswas when you were saying that
like time is different and so onand so forth.
SPEAKER_10 (38:25):
Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_08 (38:28):
Not that we were like a fucking like team that
like synchronized our watchesand bullshit, because I don't
think any of us actually had awatch, but all of our phones
were at different times.
Oh I wish I wish I was fucking Iwish I was fucking they were all
off by like anywhere from likeit was like three minutes to
(38:51):
like you know, the the one thatwas the most that was the
closest of the time, it was itwas only three minutes ahead.
And that was the girl, the girlthat took the picture of my
girlfriend.
Her phone was only off by likethree minutes, it was just like
three minutes ahead or so on andso forth.
And then went all the way out tothe um our buddy Pedro that was
with us.
He uh what's called his was offby like an hour and like 17
(39:14):
minutes or some shit like that.
That's all at like random, therewas there was no pattern
whatsoever to each one, eachevery single one of the phones
was off.
And then by the time we got backto her house, we were just
that's when we had noticed itthat like Arpa was like, what
the fuck's with our phones orwhatever?
And like no one really waspaying attention.
And we're like, what the fuck,and whatever.
And then we just like huh?
(39:35):
And they're like wait a minute,like these you know, this was
also at the time where like youknow, if there was a time
change, your phones did itautomatically, yeah.
That's like going so like no onewould have like, oh, we didn't
fuck with our phones or like itjust switched.
That is so wild.
I swe I swear to fucking god.
I swear to fucking god.
I swear to fucking god.
(39:57):
Um but yeah, and then justwhatever the hell it was, and we
still like there was no rhyme,there was no reason.
And one of the one of the guyskind of went off the rails, and
then we kind of didn't we wekind of still he alienated
himself from the group andwhatever because he went down
the rabbit hole really bad.
(40:17):
Oh he was like he was like,There's gotta be a pattern,
there's gotta be this, there'sgotta be healing.
Oh my god, we never went back tothe house.
Like we went into the woods, butwe never went that area ever
again.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Never went in that directionafter that fucking day.
SPEAKER_01 (40:32):
We just No, I don't blame you at all.
SPEAKER_08 (40:35):
Absolutely did not.
We still like I said, we stillfucked around in the woods and
also that kind of punch itbefore we saw like the weird
things.
Absolutely never went thatdirection ever again.
Um he always wanted to was like,dude, we're not we're not going
back.
I was like, listen, let's justYeah, no, no, bro.
We're fucking scared.
Like, right?
We're not going.
We're not.
SPEAKER_09 (40:51):
No, no, we're not.
SPEAKER_08 (40:52):
Like, we're all just like, let's all be fucking
adults here.
Like, fuck no, dude.
SPEAKER_04 (40:57):
Absolutely not.
I don't blame you at all.
SPEAKER_08 (41:00):
There's gotta be this, there's gotta be that.
And I was like, no, dude,there's gotta be nothing.
Absolutely not.
And then I was like, I was like,I watched way too many fucking
movies.
Like, we're a bunch of teenagersin an area where we shouldn't be
fucking around in a house.
It was like, no, absolutely.
We're gonna go to the police,and they're gonna fucking just
you're just crazy kids, you weretrespassing anyway, and all this
(41:21):
other kind of fun stuff.
Next thing we're all gonna startfucking dying one by one.
Absolutely not.
SPEAKER_04 (41:25):
It's the perfect scenario.
SPEAKER_08 (41:27):
I've seen every fucking horror movie that came
out of the 80s.
Absolutely fucking not.
Absolutely fucking not.
You know?
I was like, because let's justbe honest with it.
And he goes, like, he's theathlete, I'm the whore.
We're the first two to get it.
We're the first two to die.
(41:47):
So yeah, but no, he he alienatedhimself, and we all just like
stopped talking because he justhe became incredibly obsessive
of it.
I think last he heard of it, hemoved.
Last I heard of him, he moved toone of those fuckhole states in
the heartland, like Nebraska orsome shit.
No, dude, no offense if you livein Nebraska or whatever.
SPEAKER_00 (42:08):
You know, probably no, I don't.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (42:10):
Well, no, not just you, any of our listeners too.
Not just you, but but any of anyof our listeners too.
No offense if you live inNebraska.
SPEAKER_02 (42:17):
Sorry.
SPEAKER_08 (42:18):
Oh my god, it's the guy.
He found me.
SPEAKER_04 (42:21):
Yeah.
You never know.
It's the one guy.
SPEAKER_05 (42:25):
Yeah, it's that fucking guy.
SPEAKER_04 (42:26):
He's still going down the rabbit hole.
Pretty crazy.
SPEAKER_08 (42:30):
I I swear to God, like I said, I know.
Like I just went this wholething we were talking about.
I was like, but I need you guysto fucking believe me that this
is a true story.
I swear to God.
SPEAKER_02 (42:39):
I completely believe you.
No, I believe you.
No, my story was completebullshit.
SPEAKER_04 (42:46):
It was great though.
It was a great story.
SPEAKER_08 (42:48):
And I wasn't bullshitting you, and I was just
like, my heart was actuallygoing like a little bit.
Like it was like it kind of, Idon't want to say it was like
coming out of my chest, but itkind of it it it peeked through
my nipple, like, fuck's goingon.
SPEAKER_02 (43:01):
Well, do you remember that one time, Kyle,
you said you were like a youwere you're like a mountain goat
sitting on the edge of yourseat?
SPEAKER_08 (43:08):
Oh yeah.
And then I fell.
SPEAKER_02 (43:09):
Yeah, that's how that's how I was through your
story.
I was like, tell me more.
Yes.
SPEAKER_08 (43:14):
Yeah.
If every now and then I get alittle upset that we didn't go
into the basement, but then I'llwatch something like I know what
you did last summer, or like Anyof the Fight of the 13th, and
I'm like, you know what?
I'm happy we didn't go into thatbasement.
SPEAKER_02 (43:28):
Yeah, see, I would have had to go in the basement,
but that's me.
SPEAKER_08 (43:32):
Absolutely Absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
And the doll and the footprint.
Yeah, no.
Honestly, what what said I thinkI I probably would have gone to
the attic and we wouldn't havegotten out of that house if it
wasn't for the footprints.
The footprints fucking Yeah,that's crazy.
SPEAKER_01 (43:48):
They say they just started in this, yeah, no.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (43:52):
Because they looked like how do I how do I fucking
they look like they would befrom old shoes.
You know what I mean?
It's like bottom of shoes, youknow, vans have this specific
design to them.
Converse, they they all havelike designs to them.
SPEAKER_06 (44:05):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (44:06):
But like old shoes are just like flat.
There's just the shape of whatyou step in, right?
There's no like so weird.
There's no actual attractionthing.
So they looked like they wouldbe like old shoes, like the
bottom of dress shoes.
They're just slick, they justhave a shape to them.
That's literally what the thethe fucking the shoe print look
the footprint looked like.
SPEAKER_03 (44:23):
Wow, that's so crazy.
I was like, nah, that isfascinating.
SPEAKER_08 (44:27):
I was like, let's get the fuck out of here.
Let's get the fuck out.
SPEAKER_04 (44:33):
Wow.
Yeah.
Well, thank you for sharingthat.
That is awesome.
SPEAKER_08 (44:38):
You're very welcome.
You're very welcome sharingthat.
For me sharing that.
Word stuff things.
What was actually kind of crazywas things.
I think it was last year, yearbefore.
It wasn't too too long ago whenwe when we went back to
Connecticut.
We had to go driving up, we hadto kind of drive up that way to
get onto the that big highwaythat it attached to was kind of
(44:58):
like taking the back roads onlike that big highway to get the
fuck out of Connecticut.
So we had to go up that way.
And it was, I don't know,there's a little part of me that
was like, oh, this is kind oflike kind of nostalgic, because
like this was the girl I datedthrough like a lot of high
school.
Like I think out of like the outof like the four years, I think
maybe like two and a half, giveor take three years if you add
up all the get-togethers andbreakups.
(45:20):
It's probably about two, two anda half years that we dated.
Um so it was kind of nostalgic,kind of like going down memory
lane or whatever, and like wedrove past those woods, and the
area that's like directly acrossthe street from where her house
was, it is all developed by somefucking I it's like Anthem.
I think like Anthem has abuilding there, like Blue Cross,
Blue Shield, and all that shit.
SPEAKER_05 (45:41):
Oh wow.
SPEAKER_08 (45:41):
Um Yeah, I think they have an area right there.
Um and so that whole entire areais whatever, but like but you
still see like the woods kind ofoff like it's all that area that
where that um where that oneroad is, I said that like kind
of goes through and it cuts intolike that little highway area.
It's all that area that'sdeveloped.
So the rest of the woods that wewould like go in and like screw
around in is still there.
SPEAKER_10 (46:03):
But I'm like, Do you think the house is still there?
SPEAKER_06 (46:06):
Uh you know what?
If I never know, I can diehappy.
SPEAKER_05 (46:17):
Thanks for that.
I don't know, Menomina.
SPEAKER_00 (46:22):
But when I do, I do do do do.
SPEAKER_02 (46:26):
Now I'm gonna be so that was Maddie, that was Maddie
calling me.
I'm so sorry.
SPEAKER_08 (46:32):
Let's please make that the soundbite for this
episode, please.
SPEAKER_00 (46:35):
Please do.
SPEAKER_08 (46:38):
And and just the bit where like I'm talking and then
it plays, and then it's likethat two seconds of silence
afterwards where we just kind oflike, and who was that?
Oh, that's great.
But uh anywho, yeah, uh, if Inever know current state of that
(46:59):
house, I could die happy.
SPEAKER_02 (47:01):
Yeah, that's true.
SPEAKER_08 (47:02):
I'm I'm good.
I'm good.
SPEAKER_02 (47:04):
So, all right, friends, I think that's it for
our descent into the strange.
If you've liked what you heard,don't keep it to yourself.
Like, share, leave a comment,whisper it to your weirdest
friends, only under a full moon.
Tag us, talk to us on socialmedia, um, and tell us what your
(47:26):
favorite urban legend is orweird encounter.
Um, and don't forget to followHeather on Tell Me a Scary Story
Podcast and look for her on allsocials and on Spotify and soon
to be YouTube.
Is that correct, Heather?
SPEAKER_04 (47:45):
Yes, I do have like a couple things.
I actually have a collab onYouTube right now, my part.
But yeah, I'm gonna grow that.
I'm getting used to trying toget used to YouTube.
SPEAKER_02 (47:57):
Yeah, yeah.
Um, and hey, don't forget if youever come across stairs in the
woods or a creepy house thatshouldn't be there, take photos
first, then rums or con.
SPEAKER_03 (48:13):
Photos of you breaking in.
SPEAKER_02 (48:14):
Right, not photos of you breaking in.
But hey, we're not here to tellyou how to live.
So until next time, staycurious, stay weird, and
whatever you do, don't lookback.
Heather, it's been a pleasurehaving you with us.
Uh, thank you for having me.
Just wasn't too chaotic for you.
SPEAKER_04 (48:33):
This is like you all being in my brain all the time.
That's what I'm like.
SPEAKER_02 (48:41):
Oh, thank you so much for stopping by.
Uh so with that, I'll saygoodbye.
Goodbye.
Kyle, say goodbye.
SPEAKER_05 (48:51):
I am Groot.
SPEAKER_02 (48:57):
Oh, Lord.
All right.
Once again, no what I'm supposedto do with that.
(49:22):
Note to self.
SPEAKER_09 (49:25):
I learned that today.
SPEAKER_00 (49:27):
That's interesting.
You learned that today.
SPEAKER_02 (49:31):
From a therapist.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (49:33):
Oh no, therapist.
Wow.
SPEAKER_02 (49:37):
That's a fucking revelation though.
That's interesting.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (49:43):
Well, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER_02 (49:46):
Yeah.
Hi, everybody.
Guess what?
We have just solved all yourgagging issues.
Just smile.
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