January 28, 2025 • 51 mins
What if everything we’ve been taught about finding your purpose is wrong? 🤯 In this powerful episode of The SisterGirl Sessions, hosts Niecee and Voni dive into discovering your life’s purpose and sharing personal experiences and insight.
🚀 Here’s what we’re diving into:
✨ How purpose is fluid, not fixed (02:08)
✨ The small daily actions that shape your greater purpose (04:07)
✨ The role of spirituality and personal growth (07:24)
✨ How family, influence, and community shape our paths (15:48)
✨ Embracing challenges, risks, and career shifts (28:42)
✨ Why service to others is key to deeper fulfillment (36:19)
Whether you’re feeling lost, stuck, or simply curious about aligning with your greater purpose, this episode will give you the insights, inspiration, and real-life examples of how to navigate your journey.
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sistergirl-session-5_1_01-2 (00:00):
Hi, welcome to The SisterGirl
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Sessions.
We are back for another sessiontoday.
My name is Niecee, of course,and this is Voni.
Hi, Voni.
We have created this podcast,The SisterGirl Sessions as a
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space for us to come togetherand talk about our life lessons,
learned, different experienceswe had.
Topics we'd like to discuss asfar as personal growth and
development and just a generalspace for us to come together
and chat it up and share someinsights with you all or some
things that are on our mind.
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We're really happy that you'rehere today.
And today we are going to betalking about, finding our sense
of purpose or how do we find oursense of purpose?
And so with that, I am going togo ahead and turn it over to
Voni.
She always do me like this, but,about, a sense of purpose, I
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think, what is it that you find,in your life that fulfills you
and gives you joy and peace tosome extent, but then also, what
is it that you were born orbrought here on this earth to
serve or to, I don't even knowhow to describe it, but to say
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what, why were you born or whyare you here?
Exactly.
And, I, and I feel like when youare living that purpose in which
we'll talk about, I'm sure.
you will kind of resonate withthe activities or what you're
doing and it will feel naturaland feel really good to your
spirit.
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Yes.
And then you will kind of befulfilled a little bit.
So I do believe people are bornor brought here to have a
certain influence or certainthing to do.
And impact on the world, that iswhat I agree.
I agree.
I do like that.
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And I do feel as though yourpurposes can shift.
It's fluid.
Yes.
So over time you might've hadone purpose, say like being a
mom or something like that.
And then the children are grownand on their own.
And then you kind of evolve intoanother sense of purpose.
I think that can happen as well.
So when I think about sense ofpurpose, I always think about.
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Like something bigger thanmyself.
Okay.
It's not about me.
It's like you said, like aboutwhat am I bringing to the world
in a positive way?
Yes.
Not in a negative way, but in apositive way.
What makes me feel light andairy when I'm doing that?
It doesn't feel like work oreffort or I just flow naturally
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with it.
And it brings me a sense ofexcitement.
I feel like I'm, when I'm inthat state, I feel like I'm
tapping into my sense ofpurpose.
A lot of times I'll get thegoose bumps.
Or I have these moments whereit'll be like you in it, you
doing it.
And you it's so natural.
Cause I could be at work or Iguess, I can be doing a
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presentation or having aconversation with certain people
and stuff just flow through you.
Yes.
And you don't even know.
I was like, Oh, where'd I getthat from?
Who said that?
That was me.
And I was like, okay, all right.
I mean, it just feels natural.
You know, to your earlier pointthat, but you'd like, Okay.
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And you don't even understand,but it, to me, it's within that
spirit within you to kind ofsay, you are on track.
This is what you should bedoing.
This is what you should besaying in that moment.
And if you let it flow, it justfeels so natural.
That your, other conscious sitsthere and says, Was that you?
Yes.
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We're like, wow, that wasprofound.
I know you did good.
I'm so like you did.
I agree.
I agree.
And so when I think aboutpurpose in that aspect, I feel
as though there are many micropurposes that, kind of expands
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into a bigger purpose overall.
Um, So to expand on it, I'mspeaking of like you were just
talking about, like, even whenyou're speaking and you know, it
comes up from your spirit andthat person must've needed to
hear that or that audience orwherever you are speaking or
taking an action, like you couldbe in a grocery store and
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handing somebody or helpingsomebody get something from the
shelf.
To me, like, All of those littlemicro things and are
contributing to your greaterpurpose to impact people on the
day to day, like, I'll sometimesget in a state where I feel like
I need to do something reallygrand or things like that, but
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you always tell me, Niecee, lookaround you.
You impact people every day, soit's like, well, you're right in
the feedback.
That I get from their experienceof me or different things that
we talk about, it might nothappen in that moment, but the
feedback that I get is reallyimpactful about like what the
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example where you feel like youwere doing something else or you
wasn't recognizing it when I hadto say that to you.
Because I think when you saythat mm-hmm We were, what were
we talking about at the momentwhere I said, Verniece, you
don't realize you already dothat because I know, but I don't
wanna speak for you.
Yes, yes.
Or would you like me to promptyou at all circumstances?
Because there's so many I know.
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So different circumstances.
Um, let's just say, one time Iwas talking to two of my
friends.
We were on a conference callwhen we're talking on the phone
and one of my friends was havinga health scare and she was
really frightened and reallyupset.
She had just got some bad newsand things like that that she
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had to go through some moremedical situation and, and she
was really upset and afraid andthings like that.
And I was just at that time and,and we were kind of taking turns
and talking, me and my otherfriend, we're talking and
lifting her up, you know, Beingthere for, but I had said
something, I can't even tell youexactly what I said.
That's alright.
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That's okay.
That day.
Yeah.
But at that time I spoke and I,was, and I was, okay.
Siri, we need you to calm down.
Calm down.
She calmed down.
Calm down.
Alright, so where was I?
Okay.
You know, you were chalking her,lifting her up and I was lifting
her up and I was speaking to herand I just.
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spoke from my spirit.
Like I said, I can't say exactlywhat I said.
And I remember that her and myother friend kind of paused My
other friend's like, uh, no, myfriend, she was like, see,
that's why I knew I needed totalk to her.
I know.
That's my Zen friend.
And she always has, like thingsto say, so it was like, okay,
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this, I think this is one ofthose times where, so those were
the times where I didn'trecognize I got immediate
feedback at that time where itwas like, okay, so that's being
on my purpose, where, yeah.
What were you thinking about?
I was thinking about, because asyou have developed spiritually.
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You've kind of brought a lot ofpeople along on the journey.
You've educated and trained usabout our inner spiritual
selves, right?
I believe that about you, right?
You taught me, family, siblings,kids, you know, your friends,
circles, you live it.
You, it's who I'm That is whoyou are.
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Yes.
And I remember a time where youkept saying, I'm multifaceted
though.
You are, you're you.
As many facets to mypersonality, Yes you do.
Uh, but I kept remembering, youkept saying Voni, I wanna be a
public speaker and I wanna getmy message out.
Yes.
And say, and not that you stillwon't fulfill that.
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Yes.
But what I got a sense from youin that moment was that you
didn't recognize.
That you were doing it already,already through other people and
other things.
That's a really great example.
Yeah.
Yes.
So that's what resonated for me.
I was like, but she don't evensee it.
You don't see it, Verniece.
You do it right now.
You do it.
And, and in a, in a calm way,because when I first.
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started on my journey and I wasso excited about it.
Like when I made the shift fromliving from the outside in to
tuning within myself and thengoing with, you know, looking
out at the world and seeing howI was experiencing it, but being
tuned in to what's going on onthe inside.
When I first started on thisspiritual journey, it was like,
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a lot of people was like, Nowshe, I did too for a minute.
It took me a little bit.
What do you I couldn't, I had tomake her start.
I not understand.
Didn't I was Could you explainthat again to me?
I, I and my kids were like, ohLord, hear go mama with this woo
woo stuff again.
You know?
And I, and I, I couldn't help itbecause I was becoming, and I
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could only stand in it and liveit.
Mm-hmm So I was talking about itmm-hmm A lot.
Mm-hmm And then a lot of times,it wasn't even till like a year
or two later.
Some of the things that I said,I guess resonated with the
person and then they'll be like,wow.
I think I need to investigatethis a little bit more and they
start on their own journeybecause to me, even if I spoke
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on a grand stage or have anindividual conversation, there's
nothing I could do.
I could just speak to you aboutwhat I'm experiencing and then
you can pick it up and take yourown journey, you know, like
those people you talk to.
Yes.
But when I hear that, I thinkthat is part of your purpose.
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of you being that voice or thatmessenger to kind of help others
grow, um, in that, in thatformat, to learn about it, to
how to not look externally.
You said that just a minute ago,that was one of the big
teachings I took away.
From you now still haven'tmanaged the meditation.
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She needs to commit.
I can't make my brain don't shutoff that way.
But I do know I, I try, I try, Ido.
I've been doing more.
I don't say nothing about it,but I've been doing it more.
I got my little calm nap and I,uh, I really do practice.
It is a practice trying to be apro baseball player on your
first try.
I'm not there.
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Y'all I'm still a real rookiethere.
Yes.
But, it does teach, it hastaught me, you have taught me
what I say, what I think isinfluencing my experience.
So that's a major part of one ofmy takeaways that, and then as I
would, you was like, you werejust saying about how you would.
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You share things with differentpeople in the moment.
I didn't get it.
Yes.
See what I mean?
Yes, and then I would go try Youknow, I was like, okay, he said
this i'm i'ma try it, you know,and then so then you go If it
resonated with me, I wanted itto resonate because I wanted it
to be true.
I wanted to be positive I wantedto have a good experience So I
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started trying to think that wayand then it worked.
And then, well, you know me onceit worked, I'm like, I'm good.
I'm good.
Okay.
Okay.
That works.
And then it just startedevolving and being a part of who
you are.
Yeah.
So that, I mean, but I say thatis a major thing of a purpose
for you as I, as I think about.
How you energy and how you, butI think you're doing it for a
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lot of different people, butit's still part of those micro
levels, but it's not reallymicro because as it reaches out
and it keeps going and that'swhat I was thinking about that
it's kind of could be micro, butthey all collaborate to become
something bigger than me.
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I agree because I'm not reallydoing anything.
I'm just sharing my experienceand who I am or my perspective
and how I view things because Ican't even say it's like a solid
belief because it's all fluid.
I agree.
Yeah, I think that's a majorpart of your purpose, at least
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in.
I shouldn't state that even foryou necessarily.
I do feel like it is.
I feel like that's your purposebecause you're so natural and it
just flows through you soeasily.
I have to be in the momentbecause that's the thing is that
a lot of times I can't justlike.
Turn it on demand.
You know, I have to be in theflow state for it to flow for
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me.
Okay, but I agree.
I agree.
I feel as though I am here to besomewhat of a light in the
world.
I consider myself a lightworker.
Beautiful light.
But if somebody wanted to knowwhat a light worker means, see,
cause I, I would ask you causeI'm, I'm, I get it, but if
someone listening to us wantedto understand what a light
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worker means, what is the, whatis kind of, I think it means
different things to differentpeople, but for me and the way I
experienced it is, I have beenin many environments where
There's been darkness.
Okay.
Or people going through strifeand despair and don't have a lot
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to look forward to.
You know, just barely trying tomake it.
So if you are willing to stepinto the darkness and people's
faces when they're feeling darkand be a light and shine
something, some hope.
Some, different perspective kindof got them to focus in on what
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are you grateful for?
Yes.
You know, what are you happyabout waking up for today?
Did you have a pillow?
Do you love your pillow?
Little things.
Right.
Yes.
I feel you.
Yeah.
and trying to guide people into,taking things on as a different
perspective.
That's been a light.
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In the dark.
Oh, I love it.
It's beautiful.
Yeah.
I just want to make sure otherpeople understood that now.
I'm sure a lot of other peoplemight have a different idea of
what like, and my example andwhat the way I experienced it,
because I come across differentpeople that are in different
phases of their lives and theysometimes don't hear me when I
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speak it.
Okay, but somehow they rememberthey left an impression.
Yes, and they'll end up comingback.
And so sometimes also I dotargeted energy work where I
reach out to people duringmeditations or, you know, even
while I'm, Standing, you know,so, and I think that has a
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impact.
I've seen some profound thingsthat happen to people, just
different practices, how I amwith the binaural beats and
things like that.
How you focus your mind andthoughts and energy, all of
that.
Yes.
Awesome.
It's energetic.
Yes, but so defining it and andI'm, I'm still trying to further
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define that, but I do feel likethat is part of my purpose.
One of my purposes and, being amom and being family oriented
and being a positive role modelin our family is another.
Purpose that I feel is becausewe have a really close knit
family.
I feel like that's a purposethat you and I share.
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Yeah, yeah, I do.
I do.
I do have that.
I, also think for myself, Ialways call myself an
influencer.
Yes, I do.
I, you very much are.
What was the thing?
I said on the last one that I,it was another perspective of
influencer.
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You did.
Okay.
Inspiration.
I don't know what we said.
Okay, but keep going.
Well, because in my, I noticedthat I'm opinionated.
I can't say I can beopinionated, occasionally, but I
try to do it in a way.
To be sensitive to people'sfeelings.
I'm conscious of what I say.
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so that if I'm trying to,especially like for a child, my,
our kids, and I say our kids, Ihave a daughter and a
granddaughter, but I got a wholehost of nieces, nephews, and
these are my kids, in thefamily.
but I feel like you said, to bethe example to them, to help
them learn from differentexperiences.
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To recognize things that weexperience in life that,
through, you know, trials,tribulations, and experiences we
had, things we learned or didn'tlearn, even in our growing up,
and that we want to be differentfor them, sharing some of those
things.
So when we have, we used to haveone.
Kids are a lot younger.
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The closest generation were alot younger.
They are all adults.
Now we have girls night all thetime.
And we really focused and triedto influence and mom was still
with us then.
And we would influence a lot ofwhat they were, experiencing and
educating them.
And, from anything from financeto boys relationships, just
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being themselves and not havingto, feel judged and, and being
in their own beauty, no mattertheir skin colors, any of those
things.
Yes.
We fed into them, right?
Yes.
And break it down.
Like if some person was goingthrough something, challenging
them, gathering our energy, ourpositive energy together.
To motivate them to feel better,be better.
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Yes.
Yes.
It was so profound.
And work through it.
Yes.
Yeah.
And it's helpful.
It has, we need to do anothergirl's night.
We, the kids have called on it,well, young adults I should say
now, but yeah, they, youngadults have called.
We do, but now we gotta doAirbnb type stuff.
I know, girl, the house ain'tbig.
It's not big enough.
It's, and they spend a night andall that.
So it's like a big deal.
Yes.
But when I think about mypurpose, I do think it's of
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service.
Mm-hmm.
And I think it's related to,it's still people oriented.
Mm-hmm And just in the lastweekend, and it's going to be
something new cause or in thelast week I was at a meeting
with my team and I have a teamin my workspace.
And I have a team in NorthCarolina.
And.
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we were going around talkingabout our why now, why your why,
you know, you ever heard ofSimon Sinek Start With Y, right.
And so I'm, I love that.
I think you cannot explain domuch without understanding why
somebody is doing it or whatyou're doing.
You got to understand your why.
So one of the things I had theteam go around and do is, give a
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name that a little bit abouttheir background and their why,
like they were in healthcare.
What excites them about theirwork.
And to me, those two things arevery similar to your purpose.
So when I got through the wholething, I was one of the, I was
one of the last people to go.
And what I learned from thatwhole experience and listening
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to them, I like to center myselfaround people, with the same
sense of service and purpose.
I thrive in environments where Ican go help motivate, go help
create better experiences forpatients or for the team.
And it will help lift them up sothey can go help the patients,
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but it's still all in that senseof service.
And one of the things that Itook away.
So what did you tell them yourwhy was?
My why was, one of them was, isthat I just realized, and I told
him that, I said, I justrealized that the thing that
brought me to healthcare, it waskind of by fate that I ended up
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where I ended up.
I will say that.
Cause I came from health IT.
Yes.
Then I went like straight intomedical practice, but it's
mobile, but into a medicalpractice that was totally
different.
But this level of influence andhelp that I could provide is
much more visible to me.
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Yes.
And I, and that's the part Ireally love.
And then I real, the reason Ilove it so much is that I like
people.
I like to center myself aroundpeople who are doing that type
of work.
So whether you're a doctor,whether you're a nurse, whether
you are, administrator, whetheryou, no matter what your role is
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in our system, you could be ofthe, the receptionist, whatever,
but we're all with a similarpurpose trying to help patients
or help the geriatric teammembers or whatever.
So it, I realized that I lovecentering myself around people
with a like mindset, but myother why was, around.
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how we in healthcare is socomplex that I feel like what we
do in the type of healthcare wedo and work for my company
should be the future.
So there's a very much anopinion, not a statement, but I
feel like coming out of thebrick and mortars and all of
that, I want to see us, you gotto come into the community, into
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the home, you got to go to thecommunity centers and all of
those places.
where people really arethemselves because you show up
at the doctor's office.
You, so I, it was all around howyou need to come back to the
family, to the home and goinfluence a person's health that
way.
Yeah.
So, and that's where I, I findmy, Your why?
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My why?
My motivation at least to gohelp, support and my view.
Now look at me.
You tell me.
Of viewing you overall.
Mm-hmm I do feel like you inyour, and it is a blessing to be
able to be in a workspace whereyou are aligned with your
purpose.
And I say that to say I do feellike you're living your purpose.
Mm-hmm Through your work, Uhhuh,And a lot of people can say.
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Oh, you're in corporate Americaor whatever, and you're not
living on your property becauseyou in the in the machine but
you influence change Youinfluence perspectives And I can
see the joy there and theexcitement Sometimes listening
to you at work, because we workat home, I hear you sometimes
listening to me so excited to belike, she's gonna jump out of
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her chair in a minute.
Yeah, but to see you living yourpurpose, I feel like your work
is aligned with your purpose.
And to, early in your careerkind of shift into the
healthcare environment andenvironment to influence there.
Right.
I didn't know that that was thedirection.
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Yeah, so I feel like you are abig change maker in that space,
especially with the companiesthat you've worked for the help.
To innovate the industry,setting standards and models of
care and different things likethat.
So I'm like, man, what ablessing it is.
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You know, so I feel like that'sa big part of it.
And then also, related to familyand, being a light.
and a good role model.
Mm-hmm And, a lot of the peoplein the family look to you and
say, man, if she could do it,that gives me inspiration.
Mm-hmm And then the way youpresent yourself, not just like,
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oh, I'm doing this, so you, youshould try to do that.
No.
It's like you need wholebeingness.
Yeah.
I wanna know.
You wanna know.
Yes.
I teach your whole being.
Yes.
Mm-hmm And, and being who youare.
Authentically you and, being agood person that shows up and is
there for people and we'll talkto people about the things that
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they're going through and justbeing that light like you were
talking about with our, with ourgirls night with me, one on one,
sometimes the different onesmight stop by, they need a chat
or call you up.
I need to talk, so being thatit's been really good.
Great to see, but I think thosetwo are two of your biggest big
purpose, but your work is areally, really big one for you.
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It is.
And I didn't always feel you.
It fulfills you.
You don't see that.
Cause I tried to come out of it.
Yeah.
And when you said, I can't waitto go to work.
I'm like, I did this morning.
I got some work and I got sometime and I got to go do this and
do that and but I do get excitedabout it was like, but I got
this list and I'm, and I gotstuff I need to go accomplish.
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But yes, but being able to, oneof the things that I admire is
to be able to look at thingshigh level.
Understand the trickle downeffect of things.
That's a gift.
Everybody can't do that.
Yeah.
And I could work my way throughit, but just to automatically
look in this know all the rightquestions to answer all the
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different pieces that you canapply that you have a gift of
applying that to differentscenarios.
Like when you were on yourbusiness adventure and we were
doing the events, I tell you,when we got to that event, And
we were not missing a paperclip,a safety pin, a piece of tape.
Everything was accounted for.
We had everything we needed.
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We didn't have to set it up.
We didn't have the people.
But our town is tricky likethat.
It is.
You know, some other thingshappened in the city.
I had a strategy for that too,because I was trying to get the
people who usually Do the eventsin my event.
Yeah, and that didn't even thatdidn't work out.
Yeah, but I wasn't because of itwasn't because of you, you said
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the only thing you didn't likewas the stage.
But yes, yeah, we did a goodjob.
And that was your thoughtprocess of being able to look at
all the moving parts and thinkabout the scenario.
So or look at it from a from apatron or visitors perspective
of what they will experience.
Yes.
And that is your end result.
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No matter what, whether it's apatient or person coming to your
event, right?
That's the end result.
If we do not impact them.
Exactly.
Gotta get it down to the limit.
So what about somebody, like,say they're in their 20s or in
their teens and they're like,what's my purpose?
How do I discover my sense ofpurpose and what, what are some,
what are some things that youwould suggest a person would do?
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I think you have to try a lot ofdifferent things.
I think you have, to your point,when we first kicked off.
You, you really won't know ittill you get in it.
You gotta try a few differentthings.
when I started out, the reason Iended up where I was even
exposed to any level ofhealthcare is because I was a
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executive assistant oradministrative assistant.
And that I got what from my mom,right?
So she inspired me to go.
I said, Oh, mom got a good job.
I'm gonna learn that.
Oh, I could do that.
Then computers came out.
Oh, that I was up there trainingthe class.
I adapted to computers veryeasily.
And so, learned how to type onthe old typewriter.
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And then we could roll up and Todo the page.
You did your whiteout.
Correction, you know, and my momwas the kind of person that you
could not poke, peck.
You had to type.
We both type.
The way we type I think is adying art.
I know.
Yeah.
But I got that from mom.
So when I, when I went off intothe world, but I think our
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parents influenced our attitudesabout work and how we present
ourselves though.
I do believe that.
That's true.
In our day to day, we don't halfdo anything.
You be the best person.
You know, you don't do anythinghalf way.
You either show up, do it and doit right.
Or you don't show up at all.
But as I went through, thosedifferent stages, you know, I
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felt like I wanted more, right?
I could see different things andI didn't have the influence I
wanted.
Right.
So this is just Voni.
Right.
I didn't have the influence.
I would watch my bosses ordifferent people that I would
work with.
I'd emulate some and there weresome that you say, I'm not going
to be like you.
And you know, you've had thosepeople, but I think you have to
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try a lot of different things tofind it.
And I think if you kind of, toyour point, if you kind of have
the right attitude or you're,You go seek out new things.
So like, I danced, I diddifferent things in my career or
different at work.
I would go get on differentcommittees or different things
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to go see what made me tick.
I was a, I remember at one timeI wanted to be a teacher.
Yeah.
I wanted to be a teacher.
So I went from being anexecutive assistant The C suite
executive to then decide, Oh,now I want to go train.
I thought I wanted to do that.
And I did it for about 18 monthstill he got on my nerves.
And then I didn't want to dothat no more.
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Then I came back.
but what I did learn aboutmyself, I do have an aptitude
for teaching.
Me too.
I do.
And I think I do a pretty goodjob of being able to train and
teach people.
So it gave me some experiencesthat I'm able to take on with me
somewhere else.
So as you're, you're travelingand going through your different
things, don't just shut thedoor.
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Cause some of it, you always getto take it with you.
Take it with you.
Yes.
So, but I'm moving towards yourhighest excitement.
Yes.
What, what, what makes you like,Oh my goodness.
Oh, that sounds really fun.
I'm just speaking to the peoplelistening, moving towards your
highest excitement that usuallyto me, kind of, put you on the
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path.
To your purpose, even if whatthe activity that you're doing
is not solidly your purpose.
Yeah.
It will kind of put you on apart of trajectory.
It'll part I love that.
Yes.
To get you there because yes,it's going to be something you
need to take with you Yes.
To fulfill.
Yes.
Yes.
I love that.
I love it.
And I also feel like neverdiscount your challenges,
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unpleasant experiences,hardships, or whatever you went
through in life.
I've been there.
I've had many experiences, fromthe alcoholism to, we had
extreme poverty, raising kids asa single mother, trying to
navigate all these things,having to fight, physically
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fight, become people that youreally were, naturally were, but
to, survive in the environmentthat you were in.
This is what you had to do tosurvive, but all of those
things, all of those thingsculminated into me and that
still travels with me, I don'tlike to nurture that part of me,
but you know, it still travelswith me, you know, come out
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every now and again, so I can dosome things.
The light has dimmed down alittle bit, and she done, she
done went way back there, uh oh,my daughter called her baby,
went back to the 1980s, Niecee.
Like, yup, yup, that's true.
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So, but being able to, yes,embrace those things and not
necessarily always, becausethere's a lesson in there
somewhere, and there's growthopportunities, because when you
come out of it, there's growthopportunities.
And you look back on it, you'renot the same person that you
were when you entered it or whenyou were in the midst of it.
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And when you transitioned andmoved out of it, then you came
out a different person than youwent in.
That to me is with any kind of,something that most would
perceive as a negativeexperience.
You know, I've even been inaccidents, like auto accidents
that I feel like, Were for mygreater good.
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I know that sounds wow.
Yeah, that's scary That sounds alittle off.
Yeah it put me on a path to openthe door for different.
Okay trajectories Different, umexperience I might have needed a
new car.
Okay It all depends on how youlook at it.
Okay What I was going to say isthat sometimes when you have to
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do stuff.
And mama used to say this to usall the time.
Do it afraid, because if you sitaround because i'm more of a
practical person I would sayVerniece is more of the
adventurous type.
I am Niecee does the adventure.
She'll try it She's tryingthings and i'm a more kind of
about a book and I got that frommama, but at the same time She
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would also encourage and supportus to say, do it afraid.
And sometimes when you need togo work towards your purpose,
you got to kind of try, you gotto do a few things.
I'm not telling you to stickwith it.
No matter, you know, you got tojust kind of observe.
Use discernment, know whensomething's feeling good and
when it's not, and when you needto make a shift, but be okay
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with that shift, but don't beafraid to try things just
because you're afraid.
Like it's not, it's not etchedout in stone and your exact
pathway there is not lined outfor you.
I agree.
You can't, you can't let that,And then I also say that when
you find yourself in situationswhere, you know, it's not
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working out for you to not beafraid of moving past that,
taking a different path andextracting yourself from the
situation.
Even if it means letting go ofsome people that you are.
That you are within a circle of,like if you're normally, I mean,
this could be old friends,family, people that you just,
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you love them, but you gottalove them from afar because
they're not in the path that youknow, You need in your purpose
and where you need your spiritto be and where, you know, you
will flourish that some of themindividuals may or may not be,
or that circumstance may not be.
Yes.
So you have to make sure you doand, Yes, being able to move
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past that and understanding thatsometimes those things are
necessary and that's one of theharder things.
That's something that I findchallenging in my life,
especially people from the old,like that I've always known.
for years and years and years.
And when I know the energy isn'tright, and when the energy is
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not right, I feel like I'm beingheld back.
I'm not flowing.
And that's what lets me knowthis is not good.
I have to move past this becauseI've worked with people, I have
a mix.
Philosophy about it.
Okay.
Cause I have, you know, whenyou, especially at work, you
don't get to pick always who youwork with.
Right.
And there's some people in yourhemisphere, your range that,
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don't necessarily vibe with you,right.
And there are some people thatyou can separate yourself from
and you only mess with As neededbasis that knows people.
But when it comes to like yourmanagers, your bosses and people
who are highly influential inyour life, and that could be
family, friends, et cetera.
Those are the ones that are verydifficult to kind of break from.
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Yes.
And though, and becausesometimes you get stuck in
security cause it's familiar.
Yes.
And so, and then, but then itstill doesn't necessarily mean
you stand there, you askyourself, why am I not
flourishing?
Why are you not?
Why am I not flourishing?
And you know, is it my mindsetor is it the circle I'm around?
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You know, and sometimes it'sbecause you've stuck yourself
with people that you need tomove on.
You need to move on from therefor a reason, but it's not even
for your job.
I'm saying that for your job,for your friends, your family,
family.
Yeah.
That you just kind of say, Ooh,you're not working for me.
You're not no more.
Now, at one time, we was cool,and now I was on a different
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mindset, thought process.
I'm at a different phase in mylife, depending on where you at.
Yes.
You have to make thosedecisions.
Crucial.
Decision.
It's crucial.
For your growth and development.
It is.
It really is.
And then being on purpose, iswhere I believe when you're on
purpose, you will see maybe notgrand gestures of prosperity but
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you will start to see thingsflourish for yourself.
You will see things advance.
It might be small, littlethings, but the universe will
bring it in.
Yes, it will bring it through.
Yes, it will flow to you.
But when you're not, Yes, youwill start to feel and see a
different things become harderand all kinds of things continue
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to happen when I'm in asituation and I've experienced
that before where things werehappening all around me that
were not positive.
Experiences kept happening, kepthappening.
Oh, now this I'm dealing withthis now.
And now today.
Yes.
Yes.
I know I'm moving outside of mypurpose.
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It's time for me to shift withthe cheese.
Yes.
You have to move with thecheese.
I got burned from not movingwith the cheese.
Professionally and personally.
You need to move when it, whenthe universe or the world is
showing you that this is not agood fit for you.
Things will start getting takenaway from you.
You have all these negativeexperiences.
You need to move.
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It's time.
It's time to move.
You are purpose.
That is an indicator that youare our purpose.
Yes.
That's yeah.
And when it deal with purpose, Ihad a little note here talking
about, Often it relates to,service and community, but as
we've been talking about this,I'm like, there's different
definitions of Service andcommunity and a community can be
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day to day interactions.
Like I've talked about before,you know, my interactions with
the community, even going to thestore, can't even go to the
store with her.
I'm like, girl, you act like,you know, everybody, you know,
interactions and you never know.
That person might have been onthe brink of something terrible.
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Like I don't even want to liveanymore.
And.
I can't say this has happened,but you never know.
And my interaction with themmight've been the light they
needed to say, Hey, you know,life isn't everybody in the
world is terrible.
Maybe I could do this.
I feel suddenly rejuvenatedbecause I often get told that
people feel different and thatthey interact with you.
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Because of my energy and so itmight have brought my energy
level, brought my vibrations upor something.
So where they might feelempowered to take a little step
or do something.
So you do have that ability andyours is in a community of work.
Like you, you deal with so much.
So many different people andeven people you might not be
working with even currently likeyou've worked with before, or,
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different ties you have orconnections and being able to
advise or collaborate anddifferent things like that.
So it looks different, like tosay, you got to go out to the
community center.
No, you're not saying that.
Community takes on differentlooks.
Yes, that's what I was thinkingabout as it relates to that.
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So what I'm trying to get acrossin this thought is that don't
put it in a box.
It would be great not to put itin a box and, and leave it kind
of wide open.
But if you follow yourhappiness, most of the time
you're not really going to gowrong.
And because I hate it when I getoff track and I'm not in my
happy space, I get really upsetabout it because when I'm happy,
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I could feel it.
flow.
Yes.
And when I'm, when I'm agitatedand anxiety and all those, lower
vibration feelings, you're notin the flow.
But one of the things you say,as you say that, I'm just
listening to you.
Yes.
And it's kind of, I won't callit religious, but it's kind of
goes back to what we weretrained in is growing up in
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Bible studies and differentthings about, about how we treat
our fellow man.
When I think of being a service,it's to me about my experiences
or my interactions and what am Idoing to make the world a better
place and to help my fellow man.
Yes.
And all of these things thatwe've been talking about.
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Are related to that.
It's all coming back to that andthen it's like You are my
mirror.
Mm hmm.
Everybody is my mirror.
Yes.
And most of the time you areteaching me something.
Yes.
even, yes.
Whether positive or negative.
Yes.
Right.
You are my mirror.
And you're teaching me somethingabout myself.
Mm hmm.
Teaching me about you andmyself.
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But you are my mirror.
Exactly.
And so, and I might choose toleave because I don't want to
continue on this path, but youare teaching me something, but
you are right.
Yeah, it comes back to that, tome.
It all comes back to that.
Yeah.
Love.
We're supposed to love eachother.
Love each other.
Yeah.
That's the ultimate purpose.
Yes.
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Love.
Love.
Mm hmm.
Well, that sums it up.
And I would tell you that therewill be other influencers in
your life at different stages.
Like you said, Family, family tome was almost ingrained in us as
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growing up.
I agree.
Right.
It was how we were raised.
you'll have, like you just said,positive and negative
influences.
I had experiences as a kid that,some of my purpose and
succeeding in my career anddoing different things were I
won't call them traumas, butincidents that happened when you
were a kid, like daddy used tocall me, he called me a dummy
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one time.
Oh boy, that sent me somewhere.
I had so, I was a teenager bythat time, but I really had an
attitude about it.
And I turned around, I was arisk.
I told him I ain't no dummy.
And boy, everybody in the housekind of spread out like, whoa,
she about to get her tail handedto her.
Right.
luckily I didn't I didn't butluckily I didn't yes Oh, I think
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mama kind of guarded me a littlebit from that but It touched me,
but he was shocked.
And I think, and I think herealized that he had said
something to me that hurt.
But at the same time he wantedto be right.
And I decided I was going toprove him wrong.
It gave me motivation in life togo pursue.
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I can succeed.
I can be, and I, and I've toldmy nieces and different people
on different occasions.
I won't wanna say I enjoy it,but I prove people wrong.
Uh, you might have a perceptionabout me, but I'm a, you know,
and you can, I can show youbetter than I tell.
I can tell you, I can show youbetter than I could tell you and
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anything, anybody in this there,I am not any better than anyone
else.
Mm-hmm But ain't nobody betterthan me.
That was another saying, mama,daddy gave, we, we talked about
that, I think on our introvideo, on our intro, right?
And so.
Anything anybody can have.
I can have it.
I can move, I can live, I cando, I can be anything.
Yes, if it ain't there rightnow, I can work towards it.
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But as long as I'm beingfulfilled and doing the right
things.
With life and people, and I'mnot causing harm and I'm
enjoying it to your other point.
Yes.
And I'm enjoying what I'm doing.
And, then I feel like I'm onpurpose, but, it's kind of, I
was, what I was getting at is,is there going to be influences
on your life.
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Yes, through as you try to gofigure out your purpose, you're
going to have like you said,poverty, different things help
influence you, but you takethem, you learn from em, you
carry them with you forward togo figure out what you can learn
from those things, because youlearned a spirit of survival and
ingenuity and different thingsin growing up poor.
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There are certain things thatcome out of growing up that way,
right?
You learn how to figure it out,right?
If you become, you, you canfigure some things out if you
can be innovative.
So each, circumstance, you know,even, defending yourself.
You learn how to go talk yourway out of something or where
you just got to go do what yougot to go do physically deal
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with.
You know what I mean?
You learn something from each ofthose things.
So, those just carry youforward.
Survival skills, learning whensomebody's, shootin you a bunch
of bull.
Yo, my God.
Ain't saying something, butain't saying nothing.
And you know, you get thatspirit of discernment.
The spirit of I learned that inthe hood, real good.
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You learn the spirit ofdiscernment, you got to learn
it.
And then just know when you gotto say, uh uh.
Yes.
That's a really good point.
That's a really good point.
I think we're about to have towrap up.
We can get on our tangents.
We appreciate y'all sittingaround and listening to us.
Hopefully you gather some valuefrom this.
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So we've talked about a lot in acouple of things.
I know that resonate is reallywith me is that our purpose, is
can be multifaceted.
It can.
It could change.
It could shift.
We can't put it in a box.
We, like to your point, you haveto try different things to
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really see where, where thatcould take you.
And if it feels good to you,most of the time it'll, it'll
align, put you on trajectory andget you on that path.
Recognizing the feedback thatyou get from the world, people
around you and things like thatcan sometimes it can be positive
and it can make it depends onthe feedback.
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But you shouldn't let it'salways to me about my
experience.
Yes.
Yes.
Because those people caninfluence you just like daddy
saying it, but it can influenceyou and what you do and say in
purpose.
But I really, to your pointearlier about going within, go
pay attention to how you feel.
It is about going within, butlike, uh, with, like, say for
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instance, feedback sometimesthat you get from your team or
your leadership and the valuethat you bring and things like
that, that kind of sometimeslike, okay, I think I'm on the
right track.
Oh, the validation.
It's not that I'm depending onthem to give me my answers, but.
the feedback that you'rereceiving from your environment
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kind of sometimes can help you.
It can help.
It can help.
It can harm you too.
It can harm you.
You can get the big head.
Don't get the big head or justdon't let somebody else tell you
like who you are or whether ornot that is your purpose because
sometimes people's own fears.
Can go try to influence whatyour your purpose might be.
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I think about mama you like momMe and mama kind of traditional
Corporate america and mama's aworrier.
She was a worrier who liked Youshould go get you a job, go to
school, get you a job, you know,do those things.
So she doesn't understand peoplewho are more dreamer focused or
going to go pursue their focus.
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So sometimes you can do that.
Yes.
And it will influence you, butI'm saying it can't be the only
voice.
Yes.
You gotta, you gotta discern it.
I keep saying that word, but yougotta take it within and kind of
understand, you gotta be able totake that internal sometimes to
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know which voices you can listento.
Yes.
Cause you got to feel it.
And if you get that feelinglike, okay, maybe they right
and, the universe is showing mecause I'm not.
experiencing something or, youknow, something that may be
okay, but sometimes thatdiscernment is just rooted in
someone else's fear.
That's true.
That's true.
But definitely how you'refeeling on the inside and how
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you're, how you're feeling,right?
Yes.
I agree.
I agree.
Maybe I was on the wrong track,but I was coming from a good
place.
It's no right or wrong.
It is no right or wrong.
But you get what I was trying tosay there.
Yes, and like we said, tryingdifferent things, being open and
honest with yourself, goingwithin and reflecting,
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reflection, self reflection.
I think everybody should bestill sometimes, but not any
time soon.
outside activity.
I could do that.
I could just sit there and,, be.
Yeah.
Not do.
I don't do that so well.
It's good for you.
You receive messages.
You do know, even if you're notclosing your eyes and meditate,
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that is a form of meditation.
Even if you just, sitting theresilently because we live in a
world that has a lot of outsidestimulus.
We do with phones andeverything.
You have something at yourfingertips at all time.
You got your Netflix, you gotyour, you know, you got your TV,
you got your phones, you gotyour games, you got the little
computers, you got something allthe time.
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So things pulling on to you fromthe outside, just taking a
moment for yourself and beingstill is always a good thing to
me.
You'll get a lot of great ideas.
I'm sure I missed some things.
I'm not great with a recap.
No, I think, as we talked aboutwhat I think we have some
perceptions of what we think ourpurpose is.
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And sometimes I think I startedout kind of helping or we
identified together thatsometimes you might have really
grand ideas about what yourpurpose is.
Then you don't even recognizethat you're in it and you're
doing it.
Yes.
Yes.
See, that was one to me.
That's, that we took away.
That's huge.
You already doing it, but yousee it.
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That was me.
I like And that we have to,we're gonna have different
experiences and different stagesin life.
Mm-hmm that we're gonna havedifferent influencers on that
experience throughout growingup, our family, our interactions
with others.
but try a lot of differentthings to go identify and,
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figure out what your purpose maybe that as you have forward
momentum and I call thempositive experiences and
opportunities of how you feelwithin as you're going through
it, stick with it.
That's kind of giving you thatindicator that you're on the
right track.
Yes.
That's the feedback of theoutside world that I was trying
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to get to, but yes.
Take it and know that you're ontrack And you're still going to
have other experiences you don'thave lessons and learns and it's
not going to be perfect all thetime It's not a straight line.
It's not a line.
No, and I feel like i'm stilllearning me I am always still
learning and i'm sure my purposeisn't fulfilled.
I'm still here I'm still able togo do and change and be a new me
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whenever I need to make thatchange, but it's an evolution.
It really is the evolution of usas human beings.
I love that.
Well said, Sissy.
Well, we thank you all for,hanging out with us.
We went a little long today, butit was a great session.
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Peace.
Hi, welcome to The SisterGirl
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Sessions.
We are back for another sessiontoday.
My name is Niecee, of course,and this is Voni.
Hi, Voni.
We have created this podcast,The SisterGirl Sessions as a
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space for us to come togetherand talk about our life lessons,
learned, different experienceswe had.
Topics we'd like to discuss asfar as personal growth and
development and just a generalspace for us to come together
and chat it up and share someinsights with you all or some
things that are on our mind.
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We're really happy that you'rehere today.
And today we are going to betalking about, finding our sense
of purpose or how do we find oursense of purpose?
And so with that, I am going togo ahead and turn it over to
Voni.
She always do me like this, but,about, a sense of purpose, I
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think, what is it that you find,in your life that fulfills you
and gives you joy and peace tosome extent, but then also, what
is it that you were born orbrought here on this earth to
serve or to, I don't even knowhow to describe it, but to say
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what, why were you born or whyare you here?
Exactly.
And, I, and I feel like when youare living that purpose in which
we'll talk about, I'm sure.
you will kind of resonate withthe activities or what you're
doing and it will feel naturaland feel really good to your
spirit.
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Yes.
And then you will kind of befulfilled a little bit.
So I do believe people are bornor brought here to have a
certain influence or certainthing to do.
And impact on the world, that iswhat I agree.
I agree.
I do like that.
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And I do feel as though yourpurposes can shift.
It's fluid.
Yes.
So over time you might've hadone purpose, say like being a
mom or something like that.
And then the children are grownand on their own.
And then you kind of evolve intoanother sense of purpose.
I think that can happen as well.
So when I think about sense ofpurpose, I always think about.
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Like something bigger thanmyself.
Okay.
It's not about me.
It's like you said, like aboutwhat am I bringing to the world
in a positive way?
Yes.
Not in a negative way, but in apositive way.
What makes me feel light andairy when I'm doing that?
It doesn't feel like work oreffort or I just flow naturally
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with it.
And it brings me a sense ofexcitement.
I feel like I'm, when I'm inthat state, I feel like I'm
tapping into my sense ofpurpose.
A lot of times I'll get thegoose bumps.
Or I have these moments whereit'll be like you in it, you
doing it.
And you it's so natural.
Cause I could be at work or Iguess, I can be doing a
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presentation or having aconversation with certain people
and stuff just flow through you.
Yes.
And you don't even know.
I was like, Oh, where'd I getthat from?
Who said that?
That was me.
And I was like, okay, all right.
I mean, it just feels natural.
You know, to your earlier pointthat, but you'd like, Okay.
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And you don't even understand,but it, to me, it's within that
spirit within you to kind ofsay, you are on track.
This is what you should bedoing.
This is what you should besaying in that moment.
And if you let it flow, it justfeels so natural.
That your, other conscious sitsthere and says, Was that you?
Yes.
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We're like, wow, that wasprofound.
I know you did good.
I'm so like you did.
I agree.
I agree.
And so when I think aboutpurpose in that aspect, I feel
as though there are many micropurposes that, kind of expands
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into a bigger purpose overall.
Um, So to expand on it, I'mspeaking of like you were just
talking about, like, even whenyou're speaking and you know, it
comes up from your spirit andthat person must've needed to
hear that or that audience orwherever you are speaking or
taking an action, like you couldbe in a grocery store and
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handing somebody or helpingsomebody get something from the
shelf.
To me, like, All of those littlemicro things and are
contributing to your greaterpurpose to impact people on the
day to day, like, I'll sometimesget in a state where I feel like
I need to do something reallygrand or things like that, but
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you always tell me, Niecee, lookaround you.
You impact people every day, soit's like, well, you're right in
the feedback.
That I get from their experienceof me or different things that
we talk about, it might nothappen in that moment, but the
feedback that I get is reallyimpactful about like what the
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example where you feel like youwere doing something else or you
wasn't recognizing it when I hadto say that to you.
Because I think when you saythat mm-hmm We were, what were
we talking about at the momentwhere I said, Verniece, you
don't realize you already dothat because I know, but I don't
wanna speak for you.
Yes, yes.
Or would you like me to promptyou at all circumstances?
Because there's so many I know.
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So different circumstances.
Um, let's just say, one time Iwas talking to two of my
friends.
We were on a conference callwhen we're talking on the phone
and one of my friends was havinga health scare and she was
really frightened and reallyupset.
She had just got some bad newsand things like that that she
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had to go through some moremedical situation and, and she
was really upset and afraid andthings like that.
And I was just at that time and,and we were kind of taking turns
and talking, me and my otherfriend, we're talking and
lifting her up, you know, Beingthere for, but I had said
something, I can't even tell youexactly what I said.
That's alright.
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That's okay.
That day.
Yeah.
But at that time I spoke and I,was, and I was, okay.
Siri, we need you to calm down.
Calm down.
She calmed down.
Calm down.
Alright, so where was I?
Okay.
You know, you were chalking her,lifting her up and I was lifting
her up and I was speaking to herand I just.
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spoke from my spirit.
Like I said, I can't say exactlywhat I said.
And I remember that her and myother friend kind of paused My
other friend's like, uh, no, myfriend, she was like, see,
that's why I knew I needed totalk to her.
I know.
That's my Zen friend.
And she always has, like thingsto say, so it was like, okay,
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this, I think this is one ofthose times where, so those were
the times where I didn'trecognize I got immediate
feedback at that time where itwas like, okay, so that's being
on my purpose, where, yeah.
What were you thinking about?
I was thinking about, because asyou have developed spiritually.
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You've kind of brought a lot ofpeople along on the journey.
You've educated and trained usabout our inner spiritual
selves, right?
I believe that about you, right?
You taught me, family, siblings,kids, you know, your friends,
circles, you live it.
You, it's who I'm That is whoyou are.
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Yes.
And I remember a time where youkept saying, I'm multifaceted
though.
You are, you're you.
As many facets to mypersonality, Yes you do.
Uh, but I kept remembering, youkept saying Voni, I wanna be a
public speaker and I wanna getmy message out.
Yes.
And say, and not that you stillwon't fulfill that.
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Yes.
But what I got a sense from youin that moment was that you
didn't recognize.
That you were doing it already,already through other people and
other things.
That's a really great example.
Yeah.
Yes.
So that's what resonated for me.
I was like, but she don't evensee it.
You don't see it, Verniece.
You do it right now.
You do it.
And, and in a, in a calm way,because when I first.
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started on my journey and I wasso excited about it.
Like when I made the shift fromliving from the outside in to
tuning within myself and thengoing with, you know, looking
out at the world and seeing howI was experiencing it, but being
tuned in to what's going on onthe inside.
When I first started on thisspiritual journey, it was like,
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a lot of people was like, Nowshe, I did too for a minute.
It took me a little bit.
What do you I couldn't, I had tomake her start.
I not understand.
Didn't I was Could you explainthat again to me?
I, I and my kids were like, ohLord, hear go mama with this woo
woo stuff again.
You know?
And I, and I, I couldn't help itbecause I was becoming, and I
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could only stand in it and liveit.
Mm-hmm So I was talking about itmm-hmm A lot.
Mm-hmm And then a lot of times,it wasn't even till like a year
or two later.
Some of the things that I said,I guess resonated with the
person and then they'll be like,wow.
I think I need to investigatethis a little bit more and they
start on their own journeybecause to me, even if I spoke
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on a grand stage or have anindividual conversation, there's
nothing I could do.
I could just speak to you aboutwhat I'm experiencing and then
you can pick it up and take yourown journey, you know, like
those people you talk to.
Yes.
But when I hear that, I thinkthat is part of your purpose.
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of you being that voice or thatmessenger to kind of help others
grow, um, in that, in thatformat, to learn about it, to
how to not look externally.
You said that just a minute ago,that was one of the big
teachings I took away.
From you now still haven'tmanaged the meditation.
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She needs to commit.
I can't make my brain don't shutoff that way.
But I do know I, I try, I try, Ido.
I've been doing more.
I don't say nothing about it,but I've been doing it more.
I got my little calm nap and I,uh, I really do practice.
It is a practice trying to be apro baseball player on your
first try.
I'm not there.
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Y'all I'm still a real rookiethere.
Yes.
But, it does teach, it hastaught me, you have taught me
what I say, what I think isinfluencing my experience.
So that's a major part of one ofmy takeaways that, and then as I
would, you was like, you werejust saying about how you would.
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You share things with differentpeople in the moment.
I didn't get it.
Yes.
See what I mean?
Yes, and then I would go try Youknow, I was like, okay, he said
this i'm i'ma try it, you know,and then so then you go If it
resonated with me, I wanted itto resonate because I wanted it
to be true.
I wanted to be positive I wantedto have a good experience So I
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started trying to think that wayand then it worked.
And then, well, you know me onceit worked, I'm like, I'm good.
I'm good.
Okay.
Okay.
That works.
And then it just startedevolving and being a part of who
you are.
Yeah.
So that, I mean, but I say thatis a major thing of a purpose
for you as I, as I think about.
How you energy and how you, butI think you're doing it for a
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lot of different people, butit's still part of those micro
levels, but it's not reallymicro because as it reaches out
and it keeps going and that'swhat I was thinking about that
it's kind of could be micro, butthey all collaborate to become
something bigger than me.
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I agree because I'm not reallydoing anything.
I'm just sharing my experienceand who I am or my perspective
and how I view things because Ican't even say it's like a solid
belief because it's all fluid.
I agree.
Yeah, I think that's a majorpart of your purpose, at least
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in.
I shouldn't state that even foryou necessarily.
I do feel like it is.
I feel like that's your purposebecause you're so natural and it
just flows through you soeasily.
I have to be in the momentbecause that's the thing is that
a lot of times I can't justlike.
Turn it on demand.
You know, I have to be in theflow state for it to flow for
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me.
Okay, but I agree.
I agree.
I feel as though I am here to besomewhat of a light in the
world.
I consider myself a lightworker.
Beautiful light.
But if somebody wanted to knowwhat a light worker means, see,
cause I, I would ask you causeI'm, I'm, I get it, but if
someone listening to us wantedto understand what a light
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worker means, what is the, whatis kind of, I think it means
different things to differentpeople, but for me and the way I
experienced it is, I have beenin many environments where
There's been darkness.
Okay.
Or people going through strifeand despair and don't have a lot
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to look forward to.
You know, just barely trying tomake it.
So if you are willing to stepinto the darkness and people's
faces when they're feeling darkand be a light and shine
something, some hope.
Some, different perspective kindof got them to focus in on what
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are you grateful for?
Yes.
You know, what are you happyabout waking up for today?
Did you have a pillow?
Do you love your pillow?
Little things.
Right.
Yes.
I feel you.
Yeah.
and trying to guide people into,taking things on as a different
perspective.
That's been a light.
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In the dark.
Oh, I love it.
It's beautiful.
Yeah.
I just want to make sure otherpeople understood that now.
I'm sure a lot of other peoplemight have a different idea of
what like, and my example andwhat the way I experienced it,
because I come across differentpeople that are in different
phases of their lives and theysometimes don't hear me when I
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speak it.
Okay, but somehow they rememberthey left an impression.
Yes, and they'll end up comingback.
And so sometimes also I dotargeted energy work where I
reach out to people duringmeditations or, you know, even
while I'm, Standing, you know,so, and I think that has a
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impact.
I've seen some profound thingsthat happen to people, just
different practices, how I amwith the binaural beats and
things like that.
How you focus your mind andthoughts and energy, all of
that.
Yes.
Awesome.
It's energetic.
Yes, but so defining it and andI'm, I'm still trying to further
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define that, but I do feel likethat is part of my purpose.
One of my purposes and, being amom and being family oriented
and being a positive role modelin our family is another.
Purpose that I feel is becausewe have a really close knit
family.
I feel like that's a purposethat you and I share.
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Yeah, yeah, I do.
I do.
I do have that.
I, also think for myself, Ialways call myself an
influencer.
Yes, I do.
I, you very much are.
What was the thing?
I said on the last one that I,it was another perspective of
influencer.
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You did.
Okay.
Inspiration.
I don't know what we said.
Okay, but keep going.
Well, because in my, I noticedthat I'm opinionated.
I can't say I can beopinionated, occasionally, but I
try to do it in a way.
To be sensitive to people'sfeelings.
I'm conscious of what I say.
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so that if I'm trying to,especially like for a child, my,
our kids, and I say our kids, Ihave a daughter and a
granddaughter, but I got a wholehost of nieces, nephews, and
these are my kids, in thefamily.
but I feel like you said, to bethe example to them, to help
them learn from differentexperiences.
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To recognize things that weexperience in life that,
through, you know, trials,tribulations, and experiences we
had, things we learned or didn'tlearn, even in our growing up,
and that we want to be differentfor them, sharing some of those
things.
So when we have, we used to haveone.
Kids are a lot younger.
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The closest generation were alot younger.
They are all adults.
Now we have girls night all thetime.
And we really focused and triedto influence and mom was still
with us then.
And we would influence a lot ofwhat they were, experiencing and
educating them.
And, from anything from financeto boys relationships, just
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being themselves and not havingto, feel judged and, and being
in their own beauty, no mattertheir skin colors, any of those
things.
Yes.
We fed into them, right?
Yes.
And break it down.
Like if some person was goingthrough something, challenging
them, gathering our energy, ourpositive energy together.
To motivate them to feel better,be better.
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Yes.
Yes.
It was so profound.
And work through it.
Yes.
Yeah.
And it's helpful.
It has, we need to do anothergirl's night.
We, the kids have called on it,well, young adults I should say
now, but yeah, they, youngadults have called.
We do, but now we gotta doAirbnb type stuff.
I know, girl, the house ain'tbig.
It's not big enough.
It's, and they spend a night andall that.
So it's like a big deal.
Yes.
But when I think about mypurpose, I do think it's of
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service.
Mm-hmm.
And I think it's related to,it's still people oriented.
Mm-hmm And just in the lastweekend, and it's going to be
something new cause or in thelast week I was at a meeting
with my team and I have a teamin my workspace.
And I have a team in NorthCarolina.
And.
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we were going around talkingabout our why now, why your why,
you know, you ever heard ofSimon Sinek Start With Y, right.
And so I'm, I love that.
I think you cannot explain domuch without understanding why
somebody is doing it or whatyou're doing.
You got to understand your why.
So one of the things I had theteam go around and do is, give a
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name that a little bit abouttheir background and their why,
like they were in healthcare.
What excites them about theirwork.
And to me, those two things arevery similar to your purpose.
So when I got through the wholething, I was one of the, I was
one of the last people to go.
And what I learned from thatwhole experience and listening
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to them, I like to center myselfaround people, with the same
sense of service and purpose.
I thrive in environments where Ican go help motivate, go help
create better experiences forpatients or for the team.
And it will help lift them up sothey can go help the patients,
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but it's still all in that senseof service.
And one of the things that Itook away.
So what did you tell them yourwhy was?
My why was, one of them was, isthat I just realized, and I told
him that, I said, I justrealized that the thing that
brought me to healthcare, it waskind of by fate that I ended up
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where I ended up.
I will say that.
Cause I came from health IT.
Yes.
Then I went like straight intomedical practice, but it's
mobile, but into a medicalpractice that was totally
different.
But this level of influence andhelp that I could provide is
much more visible to me.
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Yes.
And I, and that's the part Ireally love.
And then I real, the reason Ilove it so much is that I like
people.
I like to center myself aroundpeople who are doing that type
of work.
So whether you're a doctor,whether you're a nurse, whether
you are, administrator, whetheryou, no matter what your role is
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in our system, you could be ofthe, the receptionist, whatever,
but we're all with a similarpurpose trying to help patients
or help the geriatric teammembers or whatever.
So it, I realized that I lovecentering myself around people
with a like mindset, but myother why was, around.
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how we in healthcare is socomplex that I feel like what we
do in the type of healthcare wedo and work for my company
should be the future.
So there's a very much anopinion, not a statement, but I
feel like coming out of thebrick and mortars and all of
that, I want to see us, you gotto come into the community, into
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the home, you got to go to thecommunity centers and all of
those places.
where people really arethemselves because you show up
at the doctor's office.
You, so I, it was all around howyou need to come back to the
family, to the home and goinfluence a person's health that
way.
Yeah.
So, and that's where I, I findmy, Your why?
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My why?
My motivation at least to gohelp, support and my view.
Now look at me.
You tell me.
Of viewing you overall.
Mm-hmm I do feel like you inyour, and it is a blessing to be
able to be in a workspace whereyou are aligned with your
purpose.
And I say that to say I do feellike you're living your purpose.
Mm-hmm Through your work, Uhhuh,And a lot of people can say.
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Oh, you're in corporate Americaor whatever, and you're not
living on your property becauseyou in the in the machine but
you influence change Youinfluence perspectives And I can
see the joy there and theexcitement Sometimes listening
to you at work, because we workat home, I hear you sometimes
listening to me so excited to belike, she's gonna jump out of
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her chair in a minute.
Yeah, but to see you living yourpurpose, I feel like your work
is aligned with your purpose.
And to, early in your careerkind of shift into the
healthcare environment andenvironment to influence there.
Right.
I didn't know that that was thedirection.
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Yeah, so I feel like you are abig change maker in that space,
especially with the companiesthat you've worked for the help.
To innovate the industry,setting standards and models of
care and different things likethat.
So I'm like, man, what ablessing it is.
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You know, so I feel like that'sa big part of it.
And then also, related to familyand, being a light.
and a good role model.
Mm-hmm And, a lot of the peoplein the family look to you and
say, man, if she could do it,that gives me inspiration.
Mm-hmm And then the way youpresent yourself, not just like,
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oh, I'm doing this, so you, youshould try to do that.
No.
It's like you need wholebeingness.
Yeah.
I wanna know.
You wanna know.
Yes.
I teach your whole being.
Yes.
Mm-hmm And, and being who youare.
Authentically you and, being agood person that shows up and is
there for people and we'll talkto people about the things that
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they're going through and justbeing that light like you were
talking about with our, with ourgirls night with me, one on one,
sometimes the different onesmight stop by, they need a chat
or call you up.
I need to talk, so being thatit's been really good.
Great to see, but I think thosetwo are two of your biggest big
purpose, but your work is areally, really big one for you.
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It is.
And I didn't always feel you.
It fulfills you.
You don't see that.
Cause I tried to come out of it.
Yeah.
And when you said, I can't waitto go to work.
I'm like, I did this morning.
I got some work and I got sometime and I got to go do this and
do that and but I do get excitedabout it was like, but I got
this list and I'm, and I gotstuff I need to go accomplish.
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But yes, but being able to, oneof the things that I admire is
to be able to look at thingshigh level.
Understand the trickle downeffect of things.
That's a gift.
Everybody can't do that.
Yeah.
And I could work my way throughit, but just to automatically
look in this know all the rightquestions to answer all the
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different pieces that you canapply that you have a gift of
applying that to differentscenarios.
Like when you were on yourbusiness adventure and we were
doing the events, I tell you,when we got to that event, And
we were not missing a paperclip,a safety pin, a piece of tape.
Everything was accounted for.
We had everything we needed.
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We didn't have to set it up.
We didn't have the people.
But our town is tricky likethat.
It is.
You know, some other thingshappened in the city.
I had a strategy for that too,because I was trying to get the
people who usually Do the eventsin my event.
Yeah, and that didn't even thatdidn't work out.
Yeah, but I wasn't because of itwasn't because of you, you said
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the only thing you didn't likewas the stage.
But yes, yeah, we did a goodjob.
And that was your thoughtprocess of being able to look at
all the moving parts and thinkabout the scenario.
So or look at it from a from apatron or visitors perspective
of what they will experience.
Yes.
And that is your end result.
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No matter what, whether it's apatient or person coming to your
event, right?
That's the end result.
If we do not impact them.
Exactly.
Gotta get it down to the limit.
So what about somebody, like,say they're in their 20s or in
their teens and they're like,what's my purpose?
How do I discover my sense ofpurpose and what, what are some,
what are some things that youwould suggest a person would do?
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I think you have to try a lot ofdifferent things.
I think you have, to your point,when we first kicked off.
You, you really won't know ittill you get in it.
You gotta try a few differentthings.
when I started out, the reason Iended up where I was even
exposed to any level ofhealthcare is because I was a
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executive assistant oradministrative assistant.
And that I got what from my mom,right?
So she inspired me to go.
I said, Oh, mom got a good job.
I'm gonna learn that.
Oh, I could do that.
Then computers came out.
Oh, that I was up there trainingthe class.
I adapted to computers veryeasily.
And so, learned how to type onthe old typewriter.
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And then we could roll up and Todo the page.
You did your whiteout.
Correction, you know, and my momwas the kind of person that you
could not poke, peck.
You had to type.
We both type.
The way we type I think is adying art.
I know.
Yeah.
But I got that from mom.
So when I, when I went off intothe world, but I think our
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parents influenced our attitudesabout work and how we present
ourselves though.
I do believe that.
That's true.
In our day to day, we don't halfdo anything.
You be the best person.
You know, you don't do anythinghalf way.
You either show up, do it and doit right.
Or you don't show up at all.
But as I went through, thosedifferent stages, you know, I
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felt like I wanted more, right?
I could see different things andI didn't have the influence I
wanted.
Right.
So this is just Voni.
Right.
I didn't have the influence.
I would watch my bosses ordifferent people that I would
work with.
I'd emulate some and there weresome that you say, I'm not going
to be like you.
And you know, you've had thosepeople, but I think you have to
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try a lot of different things tofind it.
And I think if you kind of, toyour point, if you kind of have
the right attitude or you're,You go seek out new things.
So like, I danced, I diddifferent things in my career or
different at work.
I would go get on differentcommittees or different things
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to go see what made me tick.
I was a, I remember at one timeI wanted to be a teacher.
Yeah.
I wanted to be a teacher.
So I went from being anexecutive assistant The C suite
executive to then decide, Oh,now I want to go train.
I thought I wanted to do that.
And I did it for about 18 monthstill he got on my nerves.
And then I didn't want to dothat no more.
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Then I came back.
but what I did learn aboutmyself, I do have an aptitude
for teaching.
Me too.
I do.
And I think I do a pretty goodjob of being able to train and
teach people.
So it gave me some experiencesthat I'm able to take on with me
somewhere else.
So as you're, you're travelingand going through your different
things, don't just shut thedoor.
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Cause some of it, you always getto take it with you.
Take it with you.
Yes.
So, but I'm moving towards yourhighest excitement.
Yes.
What, what, what makes you like,Oh my goodness.
Oh, that sounds really fun.
I'm just speaking to the peoplelistening, moving towards your
highest excitement that usuallyto me, kind of, put you on the
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path.
To your purpose, even if whatthe activity that you're doing
is not solidly your purpose.
Yeah.
It will kind of put you on apart of trajectory.
It'll part I love that.
Yes.
To get you there because yes,it's going to be something you
need to take with you Yes.
To fulfill.
Yes.
Yes.
I love that.
I love it.
And I also feel like neverdiscount your challenges,
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unpleasant experiences,hardships, or whatever you went
through in life.
I've been there.
I've had many experiences, fromthe alcoholism to, we had
extreme poverty, raising kids asa single mother, trying to
navigate all these things,having to fight, physically
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fight, become people that youreally were, naturally were, but
to, survive in the environmentthat you were in.
This is what you had to do tosurvive, but all of those
things, all of those thingsculminated into me and that
still travels with me, I don'tlike to nurture that part of me,
but you know, it still travelswith me, you know, come out
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every now and again, so I can dosome things.
The light has dimmed down alittle bit, and she done, she
done went way back there, uh oh,my daughter called her baby,
went back to the 1980s, Niecee.
Like, yup, yup, that's true.
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So, but being able to, yes,embrace those things and not
necessarily always, becausethere's a lesson in there
somewhere, and there's growthopportunities, because when you
come out of it, there's growthopportunities.
And you look back on it, you'renot the same person that you
were when you entered it or whenyou were in the midst of it.
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And when you transitioned andmoved out of it, then you came
out a different person than youwent in.
That to me is with any kind of,something that most would
perceive as a negativeexperience.
You know, I've even been inaccidents, like auto accidents
that I feel like, Were for mygreater good.
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I know that sounds wow.
Yeah, that's scary That sounds alittle off.
Yeah it put me on a path to openthe door for different.
Okay trajectories Different, umexperience I might have needed a
new car.
Okay It all depends on how youlook at it.
Okay What I was going to say isthat sometimes when you have to
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do stuff.
And mama used to say this to usall the time.
Do it afraid, because if you sitaround because i'm more of a
practical person I would sayVerniece is more of the
adventurous type.
I am Niecee does the adventure.
She'll try it She's tryingthings and i'm a more kind of
about a book and I got that frommama, but at the same time She
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would also encourage and supportus to say, do it afraid.
And sometimes when you need togo work towards your purpose,
you got to kind of try, you gotto do a few things.
I'm not telling you to stickwith it.
No matter, you know, you got tojust kind of observe.
Use discernment, know whensomething's feeling good and
when it's not, and when you needto make a shift, but be okay
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with that shift, but don't beafraid to try things just
because you're afraid.
Like it's not, it's not etchedout in stone and your exact
pathway there is not lined outfor you.
I agree.
You can't, you can't let that,And then I also say that when
you find yourself in situationswhere, you know, it's not
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working out for you to not beafraid of moving past that,
taking a different path andextracting yourself from the
situation.
Even if it means letting go ofsome people that you are.
That you are within a circle of,like if you're normally, I mean,
this could be old friends,family, people that you just,
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you love them, but you gottalove them from afar because
they're not in the path that youknow, You need in your purpose
and where you need your spiritto be and where, you know, you
will flourish that some of themindividuals may or may not be,
or that circumstance may not be.
Yes.
So you have to make sure you doand, Yes, being able to move
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past that and understanding thatsometimes those things are
necessary and that's one of theharder things.
That's something that I findchallenging in my life,
especially people from the old,like that I've always known.
for years and years and years.
And when I know the energy isn'tright, and when the energy is
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not right, I feel like I'm beingheld back.
I'm not flowing.
And that's what lets me knowthis is not good.
I have to move past this becauseI've worked with people, I have
a mix.
Philosophy about it.
Okay.
Cause I have, you know, whenyou, especially at work, you
don't get to pick always who youwork with.
Right.
And there's some people in yourhemisphere, your range that,
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don't necessarily vibe with you,right.
And there are some people thatyou can separate yourself from
and you only mess with As neededbasis that knows people.
But when it comes to like yourmanagers, your bosses and people
who are highly influential inyour life, and that could be
family, friends, et cetera.
Those are the ones that are verydifficult to kind of break from.
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Yes.
And though, and becausesometimes you get stuck in
security cause it's familiar.
Yes.
And so, and then, but then itstill doesn't necessarily mean
you stand there, you askyourself, why am I not
flourishing?
Why are you not?
Why am I not flourishing?
And you know, is it my mindsetor is it the circle I'm around?
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You know, and sometimes it'sbecause you've stuck yourself
with people that you need tomove on.
You need to move on from therefor a reason, but it's not even
for your job.
I'm saying that for your job,for your friends, your family,
family.
Yeah.
That you just kind of say, Ooh,you're not working for me.
You're not no more.
Now, at one time, we was cool,and now I was on a different
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mindset, thought process.
I'm at a different phase in mylife, depending on where you at.
Yes.
You have to make thosedecisions.
Crucial.
Decision.
It's crucial.
For your growth and development.
It is.
It really is.
And then being on purpose, iswhere I believe when you're on
purpose, you will see maybe notgrand gestures of prosperity but
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you will start to see thingsflourish for yourself.
You will see things advance.
It might be small, littlethings, but the universe will
bring it in.
Yes, it will bring it through.
Yes, it will flow to you.
But when you're not, Yes, youwill start to feel and see a
different things become harderand all kinds of things continue
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to happen when I'm in asituation and I've experienced
that before where things werehappening all around me that
were not positive.
Experiences kept happening, kepthappening.
Oh, now this I'm dealing withthis now.
And now today.
Yes.
Yes.
I know I'm moving outside of mypurpose.
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It's time for me to shift withthe cheese.
Yes.
You have to move with thecheese.
I got burned from not movingwith the cheese.
Professionally and personally.
You need to move when it, whenthe universe or the world is
showing you that this is not agood fit for you.
Things will start getting takenaway from you.
You have all these negativeexperiences.
You need to move.
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It's time.
It's time to move.
You are purpose.
That is an indicator that youare our purpose.
Yes.
That's yeah.
And when it deal with purpose, Ihad a little note here talking
about, Often it relates to,service and community, but as
we've been talking about this,I'm like, there's different
definitions of Service andcommunity and a community can be
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day to day interactions.
Like I've talked about before,you know, my interactions with
the community, even going to thestore, can't even go to the
store with her.
I'm like, girl, you act like,you know, everybody, you know,
interactions and you never know.
That person might have been onthe brink of something terrible.
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Like I don't even want to liveanymore.
And.
I can't say this has happened,but you never know.
And my interaction with themmight've been the light they
needed to say, Hey, you know,life isn't everybody in the
world is terrible.
Maybe I could do this.
I feel suddenly rejuvenatedbecause I often get told that
people feel different and thatthey interact with you.
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Because of my energy and so itmight have brought my energy
level, brought my vibrations upor something.
So where they might feelempowered to take a little step
or do something.
So you do have that ability andyours is in a community of work.
Like you, you deal with so much.
So many different people andeven people you might not be
working with even currently likeyou've worked with before, or,
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different ties you have orconnections and being able to
advise or collaborate anddifferent things like that.
So it looks different, like tosay, you got to go out to the
community center.
No, you're not saying that.
Community takes on differentlooks.
Yes, that's what I was thinkingabout as it relates to that.
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So what I'm trying to get acrossin this thought is that don't
put it in a box.
It would be great not to put itin a box and, and leave it kind
of wide open.
But if you follow yourhappiness, most of the time
you're not really going to gowrong.
And because I hate it when I getoff track and I'm not in my
happy space, I get really upsetabout it because when I'm happy,
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I could feel it.
flow.
Yes.
And when I'm, when I'm agitatedand anxiety and all those, lower
vibration feelings, you're notin the flow.
But one of the things you say,as you say that, I'm just
listening to you.
Yes.
And it's kind of, I won't callit religious, but it's kind of
goes back to what we weretrained in is growing up in
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Bible studies and differentthings about, about how we treat
our fellow man.
When I think of being a service,it's to me about my experiences
or my interactions and what am Idoing to make the world a better
place and to help my fellow man.
Yes.
And all of these things thatwe've been talking about.
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Are related to that.
It's all coming back to that andthen it's like You are my
mirror.
Mm hmm.
Everybody is my mirror.
Yes.
And most of the time you areteaching me something.
Yes.
even, yes.
Whether positive or negative.
Yes.
Right.
You are my mirror.
And you're teaching me somethingabout myself.
Mm hmm.
Teaching me about you andmyself.
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But you are my mirror.
Exactly.
And so, and I might choose toleave because I don't want to
continue on this path, but youare teaching me something, but
you are right.
Yeah, it comes back to that, tome.
It all comes back to that.
Yeah.
Love.
We're supposed to love eachother.
Love each other.
Yeah.
That's the ultimate purpose.
Yes.
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Love.
Love.
Mm hmm.
Well, that sums it up.
And I would tell you that therewill be other influencers in
your life at different stages.
Like you said, Family, family tome was almost ingrained in us as
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growing up.
I agree.
Right.
It was how we were raised.
you'll have, like you just said,positive and negative
influences.
I had experiences as a kid that,some of my purpose and
succeeding in my career anddoing different things were I
won't call them traumas, butincidents that happened when you
were a kid, like daddy used tocall me, he called me a dummy
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one time.
Oh boy, that sent me somewhere.
I had so, I was a teenager bythat time, but I really had an
attitude about it.
And I turned around, I was arisk.
I told him I ain't no dummy.
And boy, everybody in the housekind of spread out like, whoa,
she about to get her tail handedto her.
Right.
luckily I didn't I didn't butluckily I didn't yes Oh, I think
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mama kind of guarded me a littlebit from that but It touched me,
but he was shocked.
And I think, and I think herealized that he had said
something to me that hurt.
But at the same time he wantedto be right.
And I decided I was going toprove him wrong.
It gave me motivation in life togo pursue.
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I can succeed.
I can be, and I, and I've toldmy nieces and different people
on different occasions.
I won't wanna say I enjoy it,but I prove people wrong.
Uh, you might have a perceptionabout me, but I'm a, you know,
and you can, I can show youbetter than I tell.
I can tell you, I can show youbetter than I could tell you and
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anything, anybody in this there,I am not any better than anyone
else.
Mm-hmm But ain't nobody betterthan me.
That was another saying, mama,daddy gave, we, we talked about
that, I think on our introvideo, on our intro, right?
And so.
Anything anybody can have.
I can have it.
I can move, I can live, I cando, I can be anything.
Yes, if it ain't there rightnow, I can work towards it.
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But as long as I'm beingfulfilled and doing the right
things.
With life and people, and I'mnot causing harm and I'm
enjoying it to your other point.
Yes.
And I'm enjoying what I'm doing.
And, then I feel like I'm onpurpose, but, it's kind of, I
was, what I was getting at is,is there going to be influences
on your life.
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Yes, through as you try to gofigure out your purpose, you're
going to have like you said,poverty, different things help
influence you, but you takethem, you learn from em, you
carry them with you forward togo figure out what you can learn
from those things, because youlearned a spirit of survival and
ingenuity and different thingsin growing up poor.
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There are certain things thatcome out of growing up that way,
right?
You learn how to figure it out,right?
If you become, you, you canfigure some things out if you
can be innovative.
So each, circumstance, you know,even, defending yourself.
You learn how to go talk yourway out of something or where
you just got to go do what yougot to go do physically deal
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with.
You know what I mean?
You learn something from each ofthose things.
So, those just carry youforward.
Survival skills, learning whensomebody's, shootin you a bunch
of bull.
Yo, my God.
Ain't saying something, butain't saying nothing.
And you know, you get thatspirit of discernment.
The spirit of I learned that inthe hood, real good.
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You learn the spirit ofdiscernment, you got to learn
it.
And then just know when you gotto say, uh uh.
Yes.
That's a really good point.
That's a really good point.
I think we're about to have towrap up.
We can get on our tangents.
We appreciate y'all sittingaround and listening to us.
Hopefully you gather some valuefrom this.
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So we've talked about a lot in acouple of things.
I know that resonate is reallywith me is that our purpose, is
can be multifaceted.
It can.
It could change.
It could shift.
We can't put it in a box.
We, like to your point, you haveto try different things to
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really see where, where thatcould take you.
And if it feels good to you,most of the time it'll, it'll
align, put you on trajectory andget you on that path.
Recognizing the feedback thatyou get from the world, people
around you and things like thatcan sometimes it can be positive
and it can make it depends onthe feedback.
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But you shouldn't let it'salways to me about my
experience.
Yes.
Yes.
Because those people caninfluence you just like daddy
saying it, but it can influenceyou and what you do and say in
purpose.
But I really, to your pointearlier about going within, go
pay attention to how you feel.
It is about going within, butlike, uh, with, like, say for
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instance, feedback sometimesthat you get from your team or
your leadership and the valuethat you bring and things like
that, that kind of sometimeslike, okay, I think I'm on the
right track.
Oh, the validation.
It's not that I'm depending onthem to give me my answers, but.
the feedback that you'rereceiving from your environment
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kind of sometimes can help you.
It can help.
It can help.
It can harm you too.
It can harm you.
You can get the big head.
Don't get the big head or justdon't let somebody else tell you
like who you are or whether ornot that is your purpose because
sometimes people's own fears.
Can go try to influence whatyour your purpose might be.
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I think about mama you like momMe and mama kind of traditional
Corporate america and mama's aworrier.
She was a worrier who liked Youshould go get you a job, go to
school, get you a job, you know,do those things.
So she doesn't understand peoplewho are more dreamer focused or
going to go pursue their focus.
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So sometimes you can do that.
Yes.
And it will influence you, butI'm saying it can't be the only
voice.
Yes.
You gotta, you gotta discern it.
I keep saying that word, but yougotta take it within and kind of
understand, you gotta be able totake that internal sometimes to
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know which voices you can listento.
Yes.
Cause you got to feel it.
And if you get that feelinglike, okay, maybe they right
and, the universe is showing mecause I'm not.
experiencing something or, youknow, something that may be
okay, but sometimes thatdiscernment is just rooted in
someone else's fear.
That's true.
That's true.
But definitely how you'refeeling on the inside and how
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you're, how you're feeling,right?
Yes.
I agree.
I agree.
Maybe I was on the wrong track,but I was coming from a good
place.
It's no right or wrong.
It is no right or wrong.
But you get what I was trying tosay there.
Yes, and like we said, tryingdifferent things, being open and
honest with yourself, goingwithin and reflecting,
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reflection, self reflection.
I think everybody should bestill sometimes, but not any
time soon.
outside activity.
I could do that.
I could just sit there and,, be.
Yeah.
Not do.
I don't do that so well.
It's good for you.
You receive messages.
You do know, even if you're notclosing your eyes and meditate,
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that is a form of meditation.
Even if you just, sitting theresilently because we live in a
world that has a lot of outsidestimulus.
We do with phones andeverything.
You have something at yourfingertips at all time.
You got your Netflix, you gotyour, you know, you got your TV,
you got your phones, you gotyour games, you got the little
computers, you got something allthe time.
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So things pulling on to you fromthe outside, just taking a
moment for yourself and beingstill is always a good thing to
me.
You'll get a lot of great ideas.
I'm sure I missed some things.
I'm not great with a recap.
No, I think, as we talked aboutwhat I think we have some
perceptions of what we think ourpurpose is.
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And sometimes I think I startedout kind of helping or we
identified together thatsometimes you might have really
grand ideas about what yourpurpose is.
Then you don't even recognizethat you're in it and you're
doing it.
Yes.
Yes.
See, that was one to me.
That's, that we took away.
That's huge.
You already doing it, but yousee it.
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That was me.
I like And that we have to,we're gonna have different
experiences and different stagesin life.
Mm-hmm that we're gonna havedifferent influencers on that
experience throughout growingup, our family, our interactions
with others.
but try a lot of differentthings to go identify and,
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figure out what your purpose maybe that as you have forward
momentum and I call thempositive experiences and
opportunities of how you feelwithin as you're going through
it, stick with it.
That's kind of giving you thatindicator that you're on the
right track.
Yes.
That's the feedback of theoutside world that I was trying
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to get to, but yes.
Take it and know that you're ontrack And you're still going to
have other experiences you don'thave lessons and learns and it's
not going to be perfect all thetime It's not a straight line.
It's not a line.
No, and I feel like i'm stilllearning me I am always still
learning and i'm sure my purposeisn't fulfilled.
I'm still here I'm still able togo do and change and be a new me
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whenever I need to make thatchange, but it's an evolution.
It really is the evolution of usas human beings.
I love that.
Well said, Sissy.
Well, we thank you all for,hanging out with us.
We went a little long today, butit was a great session.
If you found any value in this,you enjoyed the session.
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the next SisterGirl Sessions.
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Peace.
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