April 10, 2023 • 55 mins
As you may have heard, we are now part of an exciting new network that's dedicated to bringing you content that's completely aligned with our own mission here at The Skeptic MetaPhysicians. So from time to time we'll be dropping these bonus episodes that will consist of full episodes of other shows from the Ethereal Podcast Network.
These are shows that have teamed up with us to help raise the vibration of the planet, and we hope that you'll enjoy them so much that you decide to subscribe to their show as well. With your help, we can get these messages out to the world and one day succeed in raising the consciousness of humanity.
Today's show is a full episode of World Awakenings, and this time well, we've cheated a little bit since Karl Gruber, the host of World Awakenings, graciously invited us to guests on his show. Well, we thought we'd share that episode on our feed so you could get a little more insight into us at the same time as you listen to the wonderful World Awakenings podcast.
Original Show Notes:
This is episode #109 of "World Awakenings: The Fast Track to Enlightenment", and this time around we host some fellow podcasters, Will Rodriguez & Karen Endsley, who co-host their own show called, "The Skeptic Metaphysicians".
Both Will & Karen are TV producers with Karen also being a TV show host, who now have their own wonderful show with a similar theme as World Awakenings. Both shows seek out experts, teachers, channels, mediums and more on a quest to understand the spiritual and metaphysical realms.
This is a great chat as show host, Karl, along with Will and Karen, take a deep dive into all things non-physical. Will Rodriguez's search has even had him join a witch's coven at one point, all in his quest to gain more understanding!
This is a fun & enlightening show!
Enjoy!
Resources:
Check out the full book-length, expanded version of Karl Gruber's eBook, called, "True Spirituality & the Law of Attraction: A Beautiful Symbiotic Relationship"
https://www.amazon.com/True-Spirituality-Law-Attraction-Relationship
Guest Info:
Website: https://worldawakenings.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/kwgruber
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kwgruber
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kwgruber/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@kwgrunner/videos
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These are shows that have teamed up with us to help raise the vibration of the planet, and we hope that you'll enjoy them so much that you decide to subscribe to their show as well. With your help, we can get these messages out to the world and one day succeed in raising the consciousness of humanity.
Today's show is a full episode of World Awakenings, and this time well, we've cheated a little bit since Karl Gruber, the host of World Awakenings, graciously invited us to guests on his show. Well, we thought we'd share that episode on our feed so you could get a little more insight into us at the same time as you listen to the wonderful World Awakenings podcast.
Original Show Notes:
This is episode #109 of "World Awakenings: The Fast Track to Enlightenment", and this time around we host some fellow podcasters, Will Rodriguez & Karen Endsley, who co-host their own show called, "The Skeptic Metaphysicians".
Both Will & Karen are TV producers with Karen also being a TV show host, who now have their own wonderful show with a similar theme as World Awakenings. Both shows seek out experts, teachers, channels, mediums and more on a quest to understand the spiritual and metaphysical realms.
This is a great chat as show host, Karl, along with Will and Karen, take a deep dive into all things non-physical. Will Rodriguez's search has even had him join a witch's coven at one point, all in his quest to gain more understanding!
This is a fun & enlightening show!
Enjoy!
Resources:
Check out the full book-length, expanded version of Karl Gruber's eBook, called, "True Spirituality & the Law of Attraction: A Beautiful Symbiotic Relationship"
https://www.amazon.com/True-Spirituality-Law-Attraction-Relationship
Guest Info:
Website: https://worldawakenings.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/kwgruber
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kwgruber
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kwgruber/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@kwgrunner/videos
Like the show? We'd love to hear your thoughts!
Please rate/review the show here:
https://lovethepodcast.com/SkepticMetaphysicians
Merch: https://www.skepticmetaphysician.com/store
Connect With The Skeptic Metaphysicians:
Website: skepticmetaphysician.com
Facebook: @TheSkepticMetaphysician
IG: SkepticMetaphysician_Podcast
Tik Tok: @skepticmetaphysicians
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Hey there, it's Will. Thanksfor joining us in this bonus episode of
the Skeptic Metaphysicians. As you mayhave heard, we are now part of
an exciting new network that's dedicated tobringing you content that's completely aligned with our
own mission here at Skeptic Metaphysicians.So from time to time we'll be dropping
these bonus episodes that will consist offull episodes of other shows from the Ethereal
(00:21):
podcast network. Now, these areshows that have teamed up with us to
help raise the vibration of the planet, and we hope that you'll enjoy them
so much that you decide to subscribeto their show as well. With your
help, we can get these messagesout to the world and one day succeed
in raising the consciousness of humanity.Now today's shows a full episode from World
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Awakenings, and this time we've cheateda little bit, since Carl Gruber,
the host of World Awakenings, graciouslyinvited us to guests on his show.
What we Thought, We'd shared thatepisode on our feet so you could get
a little more insight into us atthe same time as you listen to the
wonderful World Awakenings podcast. Now directlinks to his show, both audio and
video are in our show notes,So please feel free to connect with Carl
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directly on whatever platform you most resonatewith and let them know that we said
hello. Now, without further ado, here is World Awakenings. This is
World Awakenings, the Fast Track toEnlightenment With your host, Carl Gruber.
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World Awakenings is a podcast dedicated toopening your mind, your heart, and
your eyes to the fact that theworld's population is now more than ever awakening
to all things spiritual, metaphysical,and enlightening and just how they play an
all important role in our daily life. So join Carl on this enlightening experience
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as he interviews metaphysical and spiritual expertsto discuss, debate, and delve deeply
into the house and why of thisworldwide awakening. Hi everyone, my name
is Carl Drewber and this is thepodcast World awaken It's the Fast Track to
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Enlightenment. With episode number one ohnine of this show, today, we're
going to take a deep dive intothe main topics of this podcast, spirituality,
metaphysics, and enlightenment as we meetup with two of my fellow podcasters
and enlightenment seekers Will Rodriguez and KarenEnsley, the co host of the podcast
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called The Skeptic Metaphysician. By theway, stick around till the end of
the show, as I will havea special offer that will help you on
your journey to building a better,happier life for yourself and get a free
copy of my e book The ThreePillars. So welcome, Will and Karen.
Thanks for having us called exciting wellyou know it really is, and
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you know, just quickly before Idive in a little bit further here,
folks, please take a moment toclick that subscribe button below so you don't
miss anything on the show's there's somany great episodes here, so do that
first. But yeah, Will Rodriguez, Karen Nziley, this is so awesome
to have you two on a shownow before we dive into your podcasts,
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The Skeptic Metaphysicians, and it's socool to have you guys on. But
both of us being podcasts, Iknow you guys both have careers in television,
so let's find out more about you. Tell us about that, Karen,
No, I was gonna say yougo first, Well, well,
I'm I've been in television my entirecareer, I would say for the most
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part, except for a little stintbeforehand, but I'm currently build as an
executive producer. I oversee the regionalcontent in the state. I live in
Virginia for a national TV network that'sowned by Cox, and I basically what
that means. It's a fancy wayof saying I create programs and then hand
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them off to someone else to runon daily bas basically that works out pretty
well, Dang, Karen. SoI had a slightly different career path that
I was a teacher for a while, I ran a real estate investment company,
and then he roped me in thetelevision world. I have it to
do in that, don't speed?You're so darn cute. Yeah. So
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I started in front of the camerawith a cooking show called Cooking from the
Heart, and then launched into atravel show as well called Destination Virginia,
where we check out all the funand cool things that the state has to
offer. And I also work behindthe camera. So I produced things,
um a little bit of I'm aproducer director, I'm a floor manager for
a weekly show, and yeah,that's that's what we're doing. And she's
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unbelievably creative. She's such a greatproducer. I can't even imagine how she's
not been in this career before.Now she's so good, she's such a
natural. It's incredible. There's anunsolicited endorsement right there, Karen, But
you know that that's awesome. Um, I understand you. I live in
Virginia, so that's very cool thatyou do a show that is broadcast throughout
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Virginia. My experience is running themthe marathon in uh in Virginia Beach.
Oh yeah, the Shamrock Marathon,which should be this weekend. It is
this weekend as a matter of fact. Yeah. I The only time I
run is if someone's chasing me andthere's a big prize at the end.
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Well that's true, that's true.Well, well, so you two.
You know, it's funny because we'reboth in the podcast industry, but we've
also both been on broadcasting. Iwas professional radio DJ and production guy myself
in radio, not TV for twentyplus years in both commercial and public radio,
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and so here we both merged intopodcasting. So so I'm guessing you
know, going from TV to podcastingwas a natural evolution for you guys.
Yes and no. When we firststarted the show. It wasn't meant to
be a show. It was likeeverybody else. During COVID, we had
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a really hard time of it,and I had especially hard time because at
the time that COVID was hitting,I was being forced to face some demons
that are inside myself that I wasnot happy about. So it caused me
to go through that whole dark Knightof the soul process. And during it,
I would take my phone. Iwould read Conversations with God and I
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would read a passage that touched mespecifically, and I would pick up my
phone and just start free associating intomy phone while I was recording it.
And I would then as a wayfor me to put that out there into
the universe as me acknowledging the changesI needed to do and things like that,
I would put it out there ona private It wasn't private. It
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was actually a podcast. This ishow this started, but there weren't a
lot of people listening to it.I wasn't publicizing it, wasn't marketing it
at all because this was really forme, and a little by little it
morphed. It changed into then megoing beyond conversations with God and diving into
different modalities to see what else isout there, what else do I need
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to know? What else will helpme handle these things I'm going through right
now. So sort of interviewing differentpeople that were raiky practitioners or psychics or
things like that, and it becamethe skeptic metaphysician singular. So you were
interviewing them just on your own foryour own information, and then it morphed
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in a podcast exactly exactly. Andthere was a time after I had made
some progress, right, we're allongoing progress, We're gonna be having We're
gonna be working on ourselves for ourentire life, right and then and then
some I've and I've acknowledged that,but there was a point where I felt
better, I knew the path Iwas on I was working on myself took
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place where I felt more comfortable.So we were going to As you know,
podcasting takes a lot of work,a lot of work, and at
the time I was doing everything myself, finding the guests, myself, doing
interviews, editing, marketing, everythingwas I was doing myself, and it
was taking a lot of time awayfrom my family. So we were going
to close the show we're going toshutter it, and as we were doing
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it, we happened to run acrossApple Podcasts. Well, I googled it
the last day there you go,because I wantestly I've been putting all this
work into it. I'm like,does anybody even see this? And so
I googled it and then we happenedon to these pages of reviews that we
didn't even know existed of your show, of our show, and everyone was
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a five star review and people hadwritten paragraphs about the show. And the
one that touched us the most wassomeone wrote about how this podcast was his
constant source of surrender and inspiration onhis Phoenix process, and we thought,
wow, we had no idea thatwhat we were doing affected somebody that way.
And at that point we were like, we can't quit this. If
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this is helping one person and reallyhelping one person, then we have to
continue with it. Fortunately, afterthat, Will found some really great software
that helped cut his editing time downin half. It was meant to be
because we did get that family timeback, but we were able to continue
the podcast. Wow, that's uh, that's really interesting that you could have,
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you know, and I agree withyou Karen that if we can have
one effect on one single person ina positive manner, it really is worth
it. But but that's hard tosee, you know, in the distance.
You know, what's what's the oldanalogy? If butterfly flaps its wings
on shores in Japan, does itproduce a tidal wave on the coast of
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California. We don't know, butit does happen, and that is really
beautiful. So um, well foryou, what about you two? First
of all, Karen, did howdid you let Will talk you into be
on the co host? Talk tome in so much? I don't even
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know. I was cute, right, Yeah, I was just thinking about
this when he was talking about this. I'm like, when did I start?
Like? Why did you? How? How did this happen? But
he asked me to join him.I don't remember when or why do you
remember? Yeah, we brought youin because we were having the bananas on
our show, and so friends ofours from Orlando. We live in Orlando,
Florida. She was a radio DJfor a long time radio personality and
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she had a spiritual awakening of herown when they went to Africa and we
brought her and her husband on totalk and she's a she's a quite a
plegic. She actually was in theOlympics, Paralympics. I mean, she's
she's she's not him lighting like youname it. It's incredible, remarkable woman.
So we brought her and her husbandon the show to talk, and
because we knew them, I'm invitedKaren to come on as a guest host
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for that episode. Carl, wehad so much fun. It was such
an amazingly wonderful conversation that I wouldinvite her all the time to be a
guest host again because it was Itchanged the dynamic of the show so completely.
Meat is so much more dynamics,so much more engaging, so much
more fun to listen to and tobe part of that. At one point,
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I said, you cannot not bea co host on the show,
So then we rebranded to the SkepticMetaphysicians. Yeah, maybe I better get
a co host. No, youdo great on your own, Carl.
I have sixteen pound cat named Maya. Maybe she can help it, maybe
you Oh yeah, perfect, Shedoesn't push stuff off that the microphone off.
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Well, you you mentioned you wentthrough the dark night of the soul.
I'll tell you. I think everybodygoes through that. I mean,
I mean, just a couple ofweeks ago, I was I was having
a you know that type of episode, and I send a message to a
text to one of my colleagues andI said, yeah, going through this
blah blah. But she goes,oh, so you're humaning, and I
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go, oh, yeah, unfortunately, really good at humanings. Yeah,
that's a great point. I think, in fact, we're going through something
like that right now where we aretruly humany. We're going through an experience
that's making us remember a few experiencesactually. Yeah. But you know,
this is one of the reasons whywe chose to pursue this with the missions
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of Spirituality, metaphysics and Enlightenment isto find out how do we come out
of that that dark Knight of thesoul type of thing. And it's really
good. But you know, Ido have the excuse me have one question.
Um, you guys are a husbandand wife team. You mean evidently
you have so fun never any issueson that sometimes with this podcast. Oh
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that's probably one issue. Well,um, it's not. It's not untrue,
he says. Basically, I justcome in talk and leave. So
and he's doing all the technical work, and you know, but yeah,
yeah, I am. I am. It's not that I'm low tech.
I'm no tech, so you don'twant me messing with this stuff. Really.
There's funny because I do professional raceannouncing for marathons and triathlons and that
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type of thing, and one ofthe local race event promoters has hired me
for many races, and you know, I come and agree everything set up.
I grabbed the mic, I talkedfor three or four hours or whatever,
and then I leave and he callsme, Mike drop Carl, where's
my check? Very good, Mikedrop Karen's check. But to go into
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it, into the answer a littlebit more fully, more succinctly, she
and I actually don't agree, don'tsee eye to eye on a lot of
our belief system things. Yeah,And I think that's what makes it so
good, because we are giving eachother the freedom to know that there are
different paths and my path is differentin her path, and it's perfectly acceptable
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for us to have different paths.It's when I hit her, what are
you crazy? That's when you're inthe room. You know you can't do
that. Yeah, it's gone fromreally trying to convince each other or persuade
each other to just trying to helpeach other learn how we see things.
Yes, you don't have to believemy way, but but really this is
how I feel, and I justwant you to understand how I feel or
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how I see things. Yeah,and that's made all the difference and the
keys to accept it, you know, yea, yeah, you know what
many ways that makes you a goodteam too. But I just one quick
question that one guest you said thatcame up. She's a paraplegic, a
lumpian. You said the show wasabout bananas. Not sorry, nor is
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faster her radio her radio personality isit was Jenna Banana. It's the Bananas
because it's Jason and Jana Banana,but it's it's the last name is Shelfer.
But we called them bananas because ofthat internally in fact, Oh my
god, I hope they'll listen tothis show because I don't know we called
the bananas. But they're wonderful people, they really are. We love them.
And so that's it was really aboutspiritual awakenings. Period they went on.
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Ah, they had some Jana specificallyhad some depression issues. She had
some serious issues with what she wasgoing through. She was having some challenges
with her career, and they wentto Africa. They went on a on
a safari and remember she's in awheelchair and one time there was a lot
of friction between the two of thembecause Jana was not feeling well, so
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she didn't want to do a lotof things. So one morning they woke
up they were supposed to go outon a on a safari and Janna was
like, I'm not going. SoJason said, okay, we paid all
his money, I'm going. I'llsee you in a bit. So he
went and she stayed in the tent. Yes um. At one point she
heard the diswakee talkies and she wokeup to the walkie talking going cocka,
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do not move. What the heckis going on? So she gets her
someone to her wheelchair and she asshe's going towards the flap of the tent.
She hears again no, but donot move. She opens a flap
and she is completely surrounded by aherd of wild elephants. Oh my god,
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if right in front of her isthe baby elephant. Oh no.
And if you know anything about Africanelephants, they do not play with their
babies. But she and this babyelephant had this moment where they connected and
they just stood there her in themiddle of this herd of elephants in her
wheelchair, in her wheelchair, faceto face with a baby elephant. They
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just looked at each other. Theyconnected in At one point, one of
the elephants just turned around and startedwalking away, and then they all followed
along. Yeah. Yeah, andthat brush with nature was what she needed
to connect her to understand that weare all connected, that there's an energy
out there that isn't easily recognizable,but if you take a minute and connect,
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you can find it. It's that'sthe whole story was remarkable for me.
I was just about to say,that is a great example of energetic,
energetic connectivity. Yeah, and wow, that was That's just awesome.
So well, you know, I'vegot to ask you this. You know,
I've been watching and listening to yourshow for a while and and what
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does for you? I mean,I know it's it's personal emission and seeking
and finding and understanding, but whatdoes the word metaphysical mean to you too?
Karen Um It means the woo willand I have a slightly different take
on our podcast. Like we bothcome, we coom it the same thing
from different points of view. Hetends to be more into the science of
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it, the quantum theory, andI am more into the feeling of it
all. So I think in ourcase, metaphysics is the combination of those
two things that you can't necessarily seeor a normal life explain there's something there,
But yeah, I think for methat's what it means. For me.
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We know that science will never beable to prove any of these things
because the act of looking for answersgives us nothing but more questions. We
found that when we were doing quantummechanics and we were looking for the very
smallest particle available. The minute wefound the smallest particle that exists, we
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look closer and we find that there'syet a smaller particle still. So the
act of us looking for that answerit manifests into oh he wants they want
to keep looking for the smallest thing, Well, let's keep giving them smaller
and smaller so they have they canalways keep looking. That's the way manifesting
works, right. The more youwant it, the more the universe is
going to go Okay, let's makesure that they continue to want it.
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So that's why you have to bevery deliberate with the wording that you use
when you're trying to manifest things.So, for me, metaphysics is the
tools that you use to reach spirituality. Spirituality is what we are all trying
to achieve enlightenment. Metaphysics is thequote unquote scientific way to measure your your
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success in achieving enlightenment or a spirituality. And that's what made it palatable for
Will. Yes, yes, heneeded that scientific proof. Yeah, and
I'm different. I grew up inNew York, Carli. I can't just
say if you say to me I'mpsychic, I can't just go, oh,
okay, tell me more. I'mgoing to go, oh, you
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skeptic. Right, But to theway you describe that here and is you
have more of a feel for it, and Will wants more of the scientific
But but you know, that's oneof the things that things that draws me
into it is that for all ofmankind's history, spirituality has been saying,
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you know that there is another realm, in the unseen realm, where we're
connected to all that is in theinfinite and now over the last one hundred
twenty five years. Quantum physics issaying the same thing in scientific lingo,
but you know, just different wording, but saying the same thing. So
these two are traveling parallel to eachother. But so what I like about
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it is science is supporting what thespiritual teachers have for so very, very
very long all of mankind. AndI think that's why you and Karen and
I we can do this now.If we had, you know, even
though podcasts didn't exist, you know, one hundred hundred and fifty years ago,
if we had done this, weprobably would have been burned at the
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stake as which is there something thepeople have the desire to know? And
I believe that we're getting that outthere and allowing people helping them to understand.
Yeah, no, there's no doubtabout it. And in fact,
science is coming in kicking and screaming, because I just read an article last
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week that talked about the fact thatthere is no possible way that there could
be life after death. I justread the article last week. There's so
much evidence on the contrary. Quantumphysics talks about it in a very specific
way about how there can't not belife after death, we're energy, for
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God's sakes, you can't destroy energy, and yet scientists are still going nolah
blah oh. And that's exactly howthey sound too, exactly West Well on
that, well, I have somany questions about I love what you guys
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do, now will I've heard youmentioned in the intro of your show a
number of times that you actually joineda witch's coven just to find out more
and experienced it at all. Howdid that even? How do you even
find a coven on? What wasthat? Like? You know? No
one's ever asked me that question.That's a great question. I just googled
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them. No that I did notknow. That's a very good question because
they are super secretive. In fact, I joined this coven when I was
living in Florida and I was afrequent visitor of a metaphysical bookstore down there,
and I would take I got raikycertified there, and I took different
classes there. And as I spenttime there, I started learning things and
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meeting people that were frequenters there aswell. And I started in my search
really looking into all kinds of things. I looked into every religion imaginable.
Wicca is the coven. The witchcraftis Wicca's. It's another religion, so
for me it was natural to explorethat too. And they've got all these
books in this bookstore about witchcrafts.I started reading them, and as I'm
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checking out with these books, theowner of the store who's checking me out
looking at me right, And everytime I would come up with another book
on witchcraft, she'd look at meagain. And after a while we developed
this friendliness I have lack of abetter word. I was going to the
rapport were I was going to theseevents all the time. I was obviously
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expressing an interest in Wicca. Andat one point, as we were just
talking coundubal conversation, she said,I can't help but notice that you're interested
in witchcraft. Is there something thatyou're specifically looking for? And I explained,
I'm just looking to things, andshe said, well, you know,
there's a group that I know thatis doing a I think at the
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time was either Swan or Winter Solstice, some some ritual and they said.
She said, I if you wantto come as a visitor, we'll be
I'm sure I can get you aninvitation. Are you kidden? Are you?
Of course I would love, Iwould love to be invited. So
as it turns out, she wasthe high priestess of the coven. And
because they're so secretive, they're verycareful as to who they invite in.
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And the first thing they do isthey invite you to come to some of
the rituals so that the members whoare unbeknownst to you are checking you out.
You don't know they're members of thecoven because they don't tell you that
that you're just they're appreciating this ritualwith them, and a little by little
they all decide yes, yes,yes, yes, and they extended invitation
and they did, and they extendan invitation to me, and I think
there was four other people that wereneophytes that were initiated. Well. And
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then you have to go through aperiod of a year and a day where
you've got to be learning all thethings about Wicca and all they go to,
the all the rituals that they do, and you to, at least
in our coven, we had tocreate our own so our own robes that
we wore in the rituals things,because you're putting your own energy into it.
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I mean, there's everything that theydo, wait you can sell.
I cannot. That's why I'm nolonger on the coven. No, no,
it was. My robe was woeful. It was well, it was
terrible. But but they think it'simportant. Everything that they do there's a
reason for it. You're imbuing yourenergy into these things. You have tools.
They have athems, which are bigknives. That's what people think witchcraft
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is devil worship and sting because theyuse tools that are specifically meant to focus
your energy into things. So theyteach you some of these things for that
year and a day before they initiateyou. Once you're initiated, that's when
the good stuff comes in. Butnot until then, not until then.
So your robe said Miami dolphins onthe bed. It probably should have.
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I probably would have been better takinga jersey and repurposed it. But now,
so I'm curious. This was beforeyou started a podcast, so on
your own personal seeking. Yeah.So, so many people with a religious
background of Christianity or whatever would say, well, isn't that the dark side?
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I mean, is that an appropriatedescription. It's not. It's not.
In fact, just the opposite.Witchcraft is white magic. It is
all light. There are covens thatare focused on the dark. I understand
that most Wicca all it is.It's an earth based religion. They worship
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nature and there the moon is theirgoddess. At least in this coven,
the moon was our goddess. Andthere was the god of the hunt who
happens to have antlers. And weshouldn't get into the conversation of where Karen
knows. I would love to takeit. But a certain pope decided to
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make it evil devil, and hedragged people kicking and screaming to burn people
at the stake because they were doingthings that that was contrary to what that
particular pope wanted them to do.It's unfortunate at the time it was very
fear based. Not a lot haschanged, but it was really fear based
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at the time, and a lotof people suffered for it because of it.
Exactly, Well, we could wecould do another entire show just on
what organized religion has done for tomankind throughout all of history. So but
we'll say that for another show.Wow. So um, that is pretty
amazing. In one thing, I'mgoing to go back to the shows that
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we do and the guests that wehave, and I have to ask you
this because I know both you guysand myself had have had some pretty amazing
guests on What is one of thewildest experiences and guests that you have had
on your show? Can you definewild? Wild, goood or wild bad?
A lot of different directions? Memorable, caring well, which one?
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Which one? Are we thinking thesame guy? We are? We had
a guest whom we introduced him throughhis work and books and whatnot, and
pretty much the first statement that hemade was I am the Light. So
meeting someone that you know, that'shis belief is that every living creature on
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the world will go through him,oh when they die. So that was
very That was a very very interestinginterview. Where do you go from that?
You're the light? Okay? Andyou didn't say anything about this in
the pre interview, right and we'retalking beforehand, he didn't mention anything like
that he was a spirit medium.He was. He had said some things
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to me before we started ring thatmade me go, oh, this guy
might know what he's talking about.And then as soon as we started recording,
Carl the very first question, hejust went dropped that grenade. And
that's when you said, okay,we're done. I mean I probably should
have. Uh, that's not that'snot fair to say. Who are we
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to say that he's not the light? Yeah, I don't know. All
I know is that that sounds exhausting. And he told me I'm next,
and that's a little scary. Yeah. Well, you know, I gotta
I gotta throw out one for oneof my favorites. Um Um. I've
had her on my show twice achannel uh, Christina Hill. Christina Hill
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channels um a Syrian from Serious B, a galactic being called a Fella who
is a twelve D ascended Master andshe is actually channeled on stage at Carnegie
Hall with um uh, one ofthe famous really themous guys, a couple
of people. She's actually done iton stage. But I had her on
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my show first with my mentor,Christy Whitman, who is now a channel
for a group of ascended masters calledthe Council. But so I had Christina
on my show a channeling for Shewas solo channeling Othella and it's she's amazing.
She is, I mean, itreally is phenomenal light. She just
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lights up the whole screen when she'schanneling in her whole demeanor and speech,
changes. But the greatest thing wasothellam imitated dolphins. Othella did the channel
being because dolphins, evidently, accordingto Othella, come from serious being.
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They're enlightened beings on earth. Andso if you ever get a chance to
go check out that episode with AthellOthella and Christina Hill when you hear in
a ended master imitating dolphins is well. And that's one of the things I
want to ask you when we getyou on our show called because I listened
to your show as well, andyou talk to these people that channel these
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incredible beings. You are so presentwith them. Whenever we have a channel
in our show, it takes mea minute to really get him out my
head or I like, is thisshe put me on because this is a
little weird. Weird at first,Yeah, but you are you just right
there. You ask these questions andyou have no doubt whatsoever, and that's
wonderful. So I need to knowhow you do that because I need to
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wrap my head on that's the skepticin you. Yeah, I am so
open. My heart and mind isso open to all of this because you
know my burning question for a longtime, and I believe you have the
same thing as there's got to besomething better than this. You know.
I I rarely ever watch television andI turn on the TV and there's wars
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and rapes and shootings, and Igo, click, go, there's got
to be something and better. SoI'm open to that. And you know,
to me, there's no reason,I mean, why they can't and
why they don't exist, you know, as a matter of fact, like
we said, we both have hadchannels, mediums and members of galactic federations.
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So so for you, I mean, I guess you kind of still
maybe that mentality and nothing wrong withus. But I'll see it when I
believe it, you know. AndI'm on the other end, I'll i'll
I'll believe it. No, wait, I'll see it when I believe it.
Is that it No, Yeah,I'll see it when I believe it.
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That's my part, right, youhave to believe it first. Yeah.
No, you're absolutely right, Andit's something I gotta get better at
for sure, because I do.I feel uncomfortable, and I called it
out. We had the Juda Collective. I'm not sure if you have heard
the Juda Collective, but it isa collection of three hundred and fifty thousand
angels that move as one being.Yeah. I heard some of that.
Yeah, And there's one lady Angiechannel the collective and I called it out
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on the show afterwards after she finishedchanneling, I was like, I gotta,
I gotta be honest. It wasa little weird for me at first,
but then it became so natural aswe were talking to the collective,
it just became this, Oh mygod, yeah, this is this is
right on. It felt so naturaland so right that it took I suddenly
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all my skepticism went out the door. And there's something just so much that
happens in that in that episode.Uh, if if you haven't seen it,
you gotta check out Karen's reaction theminute we introduced the collective. But
um, but that's been that's beenthe one of the biggest challenges for me.
Um. But one of the mostfun episodes for me that blew my
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mind was the reverse Speech episode.Really Yeah. There's a gentleman in Australia
that has dedicated his life to investgetting this phenomenon, and he was on
the RT Bell Show. He's beenon he's made the circuits. And remember
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back in the eighties when everyone wasall up in arms. When you've played
the record backwards, if you havethese satanic messages and things like that,
Yeah, right, Yeah, thatwas a big thing with the Beatles.
Paul's dead. Yeah, and hes DC you know, like, well,
apparently that's a thing, Like that'sthe real thing. And he's dedicated
his life to it. And hecame with a bunch of clips on our
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show, and he played them onour show, and it was remarkable because
it was not like he said pineapple. No, this was like pineapple.
Oh he said pineapple, but hedid say pineapple. Right. You could
definitely see and hear I know whatyou can say, Karen, in that
sense, we're swapped. You werethe skeptic and I wasn't. Oh.
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He would tell us what to listenfor, too, so that that was
the only thing you could hear them. Sometimes I was like maybe, But
when he told us what to listenfor and you played him, we heard
them very clearly. But I wouldhave liked to hear them before he told
us what to listen for, well, just to see if we would hear
it on our own. Yeah.But the gist of it is that he
believes that our spirits are talking toeach other unbeknownst to us, unknown to
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our conscious mind. So as we'rechoosing the words we're using, the radist
speech at which we're talking, theinflections that we're using, we are talking
in one direction. And then there'sanother layer, a subconscious, deeper layer,
where it's our higher selves talking toeach other in reverse speech and giving
each other messages that cannot be lies. So he played some clips where obviously
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politicians that were found to be lying, and the clips said as much way
before it was also found. Heplayed some clips where very specifically Kennedy had
a premoniship of his own death.Wow. And when he in his inauguration
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speech, he played a backwards forus and it said my head is hitting
the car side of the car,and it was very clear. That was
clear. Yes, well, youknow, I many people believe, in
including myself, that there are waymore subliminal messages that are fed to the
entire population of the world than anybodyreally wants to believe. Whether you know,
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you want to think of it asa conspiracy theory or whatever, but
you know, and it definitely flowsthrough the media. Visual imagery definitely has
a play almost on the level ofa hypnotic type of entrainment. So but
you know, again there's another wholeshow we can do too. But wow,
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that's and you know, really,I think this is why we are
doing these shows, because the bottomline is we're curious personal seekers ourselves.
But what we're doing and I wasgoing to ask this question, do you
feel that your show on my showor shows like it are making a positive
difference in the world, And Ithink we really are. I do too.
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In fact, we just got whatI think is my favorite review so
far. So now we get amessage when we get a new one,
and we always loved to read them, but we got one last week from
a guy who's a UPS driver,and so he was talking about how he's
driving along the road and he's beenbinge listening to all of the shows and
the only problem he had was thatthere weren't more shows because he's already listened
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to most of them. He onlyhad a few left. He's not but
he you know, he said he'dbeen interested in this stuff, that he
didn't really have any friends that hecould talk to about it. But he
ended the review with a statement thatto me is like this is our he
is summing up what our goal isand he said, thank you for helping
me to feel normal. And Ithink so many people are starting to have
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these experiences or opening their eyes andtheir hearts and their minds to everything that's
happening, but it's still so fringe. I mean, it's growing, but
it's still fringe. So I thinkputting the podcasts that we're all doing out
there and spreading these messages of acceptanceis helping people to feel more normal and
to be able to talk about itand ultimately that you know, word of
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mouth, it's gonna spread, andit's gonna spread and you know, raise
the overall vibrations in the sense ofcommunity and the feelings of support that we're
trying to do well. I thinkmany of us deal on a personal relationship
with our circle of friends and family. I know personally, and none of
my family or personal friends are intowhat I do. And when I and
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they say, oh, you havea podcast, what is it about it?
I go, well, it's aboutspirituality, metaphysics and enlightenment, and
their eyes just kind of glaze overand I go The cool part is I
now have a circle of colleagues andfriends from around the world that I am
connected with, and it makes meunderstan Dan that it is much more,
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you know, connectivity throughout the worldthan just and that's a big problem.
I think in our personal lives,so many we don't jive with the people
closest to us. Sometimes you haveto go outside of your circle to expand
and grow. And I think alsoCOVID kind of shine a spotlight on that
we were forced to be alone andfor some people it was what they needed,
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but for so many people they justrealize this, I can't live like
this, And so now I thinkthere's that need of connectivity in so many
different forms. So I think reallywhat we're doing is is great. I
mean i'd like to think it is. Yeah. Yeah, Well, you
know, we're gonna wind up ina little bit. We're talking to Will
Rondriguez Karen Ensley, the host ofthe podcast The Skeptic Metaphysician. Just an
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awesome show. I highly recommend youcheck it out on YouTube and we'll put
the links in the show notes andalso on Apple podcasts and everything else.
You know. I can have abit of a heavy question for you here,
and I mean mainly because you've hadguests like I have. Our shows
speak about how humankind in many ways, many of our guests talk about this
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humankind is in the midst of amajor transition from three D carbon based physical
existence to a five D crystalline basedexistence. What does that even mean?
Do you have you guys touched onthat topic? We did. One of
the wildest shows that we had wasa gentleman who his episode blew up,
(40:32):
completely blew up, because oh thatguy. Yeah, he brought an awareness
to us that we're not just goinginto five D, We're going way beyond
and there are star seeds out therethat have volunteered to come here to this
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physical plane to help us fight awar that has been reached for a billion
years against artificial intelligence. And thatsurprised me because we've talked a lot of
people, and the point of ourshow is for folks that are just learning
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about this stuff to feel normal.But this guy spoke so far over our
heads that I had to stop themseveral times and back him up and go,
can you explain this to me ina way that I'm going to be
able to wrap my head around Becauseand of course, he sees a show
like ours, and he believes oh, they must be talking about this stuff
(41:35):
already and you're us because we're notthere yet. And what that showed me
is that everyone is at a differentlevel of evolution for lack of a better
word, and you're gonna get theinformation that you need when you need it.
And I think because we pushed theissue a little bit with him,
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we got too much. So that'sI think the beauty of our shows in
the space that each one is setup in a different a different place to
give the messages that our listeners arelooking for specifically at that moment. Excuse
me, I don't know much aboutthe crystalline forms. Yeah, yeah,
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and either do I. I've done. All I know is it's part of
our evolution to a higher level anddimension. You know. What I understand
is that a spiritual awakening or ascend, when we ascend, whatever that means,
it's not what people are thinking.At least that's the messaging that I'm
getting from people. It's not thatwe're going to change into crystalline form,
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and maybe we are, I don'tknow, But the messages that I'm getting
is that it was misinterpreted. Andyou've heard of obviously your manifestation coach.
You've heard about reality transfer thing,and when we manifest, we make different
decisions, we split off in differenttimelines in order that that give us what
we're looking for. Apparently, whenyou ascend, it's it's a sense,
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it's getting to a vibrational rate thatyou're aligned with the universe. Virtual energy
is much better than we are rightnow. When you say that the world
is going through a seismic shift,I wholeheartedly believe that. Yeah. Yeah,
And I think what we're feeling asa as a civilization is that that
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birth, every birth is messy,is difficult, it is challenging, and
there are people who are digging theirheels going no, no, you can't
make me, and the other halfare going, oh yes, yes,
yes, I want it so badlythat they wanted too badly. Right,
So you're gonna find that middle ground, that sweet spot. Because I went
on a retreat not long ago.It was it was wonderful because it was
(43:54):
all encompassing of all religions, butit was very Hindu, and I gotta
tell yeah, I found that theseHindus, they they really know what's going
on. I started reading The LivingGuida because the messages I was getting was
great. And the reason why I'msaying is because I found that the message
is just be, just be,be unattached, don't attach to things.
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Just be. The more you canjust be in the moment without expectation,
positive or negative, the easier isgoing to be for you to ascend,
for you to find your space.I had as a guest on my podcast
a few months ago a guy knownas the Bearded Mystic, and he is
a Hindu, and he comes onand speaks about the bug of a Ghita
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and always always the vendanta. Andit was interesting because you know, I'm
coming from North American, you know, spiritual aspect, you know, still
somewhat Christian based, and I'm talkingto him. We had a really interesting
discussion. But you know, Iwas going to mention another show that you
guys would really really find interesting inanybody watching or listening would too. One
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of my colleagues, my life coachingcolleagues, Nori Loved and her partner Aggie,
I can't remember his last name.They have a very popular YouTube channel
called Team Alpha Broadcast and they havesome of the most far out guests on.
They had interview and they have severalthousand subscribers and several thousand views,
(45:30):
and they could do it live onYouTube. Team Alpha broadcasts and they had
a gentleman on who had returned toEarth. He was a human who had
been signed a marine detachment to fighta war going on on Mahars and described
it in intimate detail and how bodyparts are blown off and then they regenerated
(45:52):
him. And I mean, thisis the type of thing, you know.
I mean, it's so far outthere, but it's so popular,
and so are our show seem liketame comparables. Absolutely absolutely. I think
one of the things that we found, Carl is that whatever you're ready for,
you're going to get. And alsoyou make what your reality is going
(46:15):
to be. A war like thatdoesn't seem appealing to me, So in
my reality, it doesn't exist,because that's just that's that's that's we're trying
to keep everything very positive. Andyou know what you just said, We
make our own reality. That isso in alignment when my spiritual studies and
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even the law of attraction, becausewhat we project out there is what we
see what we believe we create.Wow, man, we're gonna have to
have one episodes here, But Idon't know, wind up one last thing
here for you. What about youtwo? Uh, personally and the way
you look and think about things andthe way you live your life from the
(47:00):
experiences you're have you had on theshow, have you noticed any personal differences
in yourself? Oh? Boy,go ahead, Karen, I'll talk about
you. Yes, figure it will. Um has become a very much more
(47:21):
centered person. He meditates a lot, and if he doesn't, he must
be sent to go meditate because he'svery different. That's exactly. I'm like,
go just go find a space.UM. And I think and I
hope that through this process he isbeing comforted UM by learning all of these
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modalities and the different beliefs and religionsand they're all one, and just understanding
that message. UM. It's it'sbeen just a beautiful transformation to watch him
become the person he is now.Yeah, I would agree with that.
I was the typical executive producer right. I was entitled, I was angry,
(48:07):
I was competitive, I was adespicable human being for most of my
adult life, even some of mychildhood. I've learned that there were reasons
why, and at learning the reasonswhy, I was able to process them
and want to make the change,and that's from undergoing right now. So
it's helped me a lot in thatsense, for sure. And I could
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see that you know, well,you mentioned you're going through a dark night
of the soul a certain part ofyour area and your career and stuff right
now, and you can use thatnew centeredness to help you through this.
I mean, a classic line issometimes we understand that at the time,
what seemed to be possibly the worstthing that could ever have happened in our
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life turned out to be the mostimportant thing and the best thing that could
ever happen, because the universe leadsus in a direction for our over all
good and the good of all.And you know, I have a friend
that, when he was younger,was called in an office office of his
job. He was expecting to geta raise and a promotion. He came
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out he had been fired, andyou know, and he was crying,
and for weeks, you know,he would and he ended up. He
went off and he bought a farmand ended up living a life that he
was truly meant it. And ifhe had gotten that promotion, he made
have stayed there for forty years depressedand said, you know, and so
there's a real good example the worst, what seemed to be the worst thing
(49:37):
could end up being the most positive, loving thing, absolutely, no question
whatsoever. The challenges that we're stillhumanity, and so it's hard sometimes to
maintain your center when you go intosome of these things. So you have
to. It's a constant reminder.But yeah, it's the more I remind
myself, the more I meditate,the more I remember, and the more
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I can keep myself centered and helpthose that are are affected by some of
the decisions I've made. Yeah,and as I said earlier, we're humaning.
We're way too good at it.Yes, well, this is just
great. On Karen's side, Iwould be remiss if I didn't mention this,
and she's going to hate me rightnow. But so I think we
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are blossoming. We have a blossomingchannel in our midst because I will.
I'm going to reveal it here sincethe Judah collective, Karen is undergoing his
spiritual awakening. The minute we stopthat interview, she experienced an a change,
(50:43):
a manifestation that she can't explain.I can't explain. It was a
it was a palpable difference. Andnow every once in a while, that
same thing happens and something will comethrough that is ownding. So you ask
if it's changed us, Yes,I think we both have changed exponentially because
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I believe that now there have beenseveral different guests on our show that have
called out the fact that Karen isangelic. She's an angel living on this
planet. I've been telling her thatfor a long time, but now it's
not just me. Now it's psychicmediums. It's people who know this stuff
that are saying there's a lot goingon in you, Karen, and have
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called it out. And now thisend, this angel is starting to emerge.
It's it's coming out. And Idon't know if the folks who've been
watching have been noticing, but everyonce in a while, Karen's face changes,
it becomes this something else, andI'm noticing it. And every time
I notice it, I kind ofwant to see if you notice, because
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she takes this takes on this thing, this look that happens every time.
It's astounding, it's incredible. SoI thought, you look kind of angelic,
Karen, when you're hanging around withthree hundred fifty thousand angels. You
know, they're by keeps just phenomenalguys. Thank you, thank you,
thank you for being on World Awakenings. So grateful to know you guys.
(52:09):
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So yeah, that's probably the onestop shop for us. It's there.
Yeah. Well, thank you guys, thank you for being on World Awakenings.
What a blast, Thank you,We had a great time. Thanks
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(03:16):
The Skeptic Metaphysicians, and it's socool to have you guys on. But
both of us being podcasts, Iknow you guys both have careers in television,
so let's find out more about you. Tell us about that, Karen,
No, I was gonna say yougo first, Well, well,
I'm I've been in television my entirecareer, I would say for the most
(03:37):
part, except for a little stintbeforehand, but I'm currently build as an
executive producer. I oversee the regionalcontent in the state. I live in
Virginia for a national TV network that'sowned by Cox, and I basically what
that means. It's a fancy wayof saying I create programs and then hand
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them off to someone else to runon daily bas basically that works out pretty
well, Dang, Karen. SoI had a slightly different career path that
I was a teacher for a while, I ran a real estate investment company,
and then he roped me in thetelevision world. I have it to
do in that, don't speed?You're so darn cute. Yeah. So
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I started in front of the camerawith a cooking show called Cooking from the
Heart, and then launched into atravel show as well called Destination Virginia,
where we check out all the funand cool things that the state has to
offer. And I also work behindthe camera. So I produced things,
um a little bit of I'm aproducer director, I'm a floor manager for
a weekly show, and yeah,that's that's what we're doing. And she's
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unbelievably creative. She's such a greatproducer. I can't even imagine how she's
not been in this career before.Now she's so good, she's such a
natural. It's incredible. There's anunsolicited endorsement right there, Karen, But
you know that that's awesome. Um, I understand you. I live in
Virginia, so that's very cool thatyou do a show that is broadcast throughout
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Virginia. My experience is running themthe marathon in uh in Virginia Beach.
Oh yeah, the Shamrock Marathon,which should be this weekend. It is
this weekend as a matter of fact. Yeah. I The only time I
run is if someone's chasing me andthere's a big prize at the end.
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Well that's true, that's true.Well, well, so you two.
You know, it's funny because we'reboth in the podcast industry, but we've
also both been on broadcasting. Iwas professional radio DJ and production guy myself
in radio, not TV for twentyplus years in both commercial and public radio,
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and so here we both merged intopodcasting. So so I'm guessing you
know, going from TV to podcastingwas a natural evolution for you guys.
Yes and no. When we firststarted the show. It wasn't meant to
be a show. It was likeeverybody else. During COVID, we had
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a really hard time of it,and I had especially hard time because at
the time that COVID was hitting,I was being forced to face some demons
that are inside myself that I wasnot happy about. So it caused me
to go through that whole dark Knightof the soul process. And during it,
I would take my phone. Iwould read Conversations with God and I
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would read a passage that touched mespecifically, and I would pick up my
phone and just start free associating intomy phone while I was recording it.
And I would then as a wayfor me to put that out there into
the universe as me acknowledging the changesI needed to do and things like that,
I would put it out there ona private It wasn't private. It
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was actually a podcast. This ishow this started, but there weren't a
lot of people listening to it.I wasn't publicizing it, wasn't marketing it
at all because this was really forme, and a little by little it
morphed. It changed into then megoing beyond conversations with God and diving into
different modalities to see what else isout there, what else do I need
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to know? What else will helpme handle these things I'm going through right
now. So sort of interviewing differentpeople that were raiky practitioners or psychics or
things like that, and it becamethe skeptic metaphysician singular. So you were
interviewing them just on your own foryour own information, and then it morphed
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in a podcast exactly exactly. Andthere was a time after I had made
some progress, right, we're allongoing progress, We're gonna be having We're
gonna be working on ourselves for ourentire life, right and then and then
some I've and I've acknowledged that,but there was a point where I felt
better, I knew the path Iwas on I was working on myself took
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place where I felt more comfortable.So we were going to As you know,
podcasting takes a lot of work,a lot of work, and at
the time I was doing everything myself, finding the guests, myself, doing
interviews, editing, marketing, everythingwas I was doing myself, and it
was taking a lot of time awayfrom my family. So we were going
to close the show we're going toshutter it, and as we were doing
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it, we happened to run acrossApple Podcasts. Well, I googled it
the last day there you go,because I wantestly I've been putting all this
work into it. I'm like,does anybody even see this? And so
I googled it and then we happenedon to these pages of reviews that we
didn't even know existed of your show, of our show, and everyone was
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a five star review and people hadwritten paragraphs about the show. And the
one that touched us the most wassomeone wrote about how this podcast was his
constant source of surrender and inspiration onhis Phoenix process, and we thought,
wow, we had no idea thatwhat we were doing affected somebody that way.
And at that point we were like, we can't quit this. If
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this is helping one person and reallyhelping one person, then we have to
continue with it. Fortunately, afterthat, Will found some really great software
that helped cut his editing time downin half. It was meant to be
because we did get that family timeback, but we were able to continue
the podcast. Wow, that's uh, that's really interesting that you could have,
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you know, and I agree withyou Karen that if we can have
one effect on one single person ina positive manner, it really is worth
it. But but that's hard tosee, you know, in the distance.
You know, what's what's the oldanalogy? If butterfly flaps its wings
on shores in Japan, does itproduce a tidal wave on the coast of
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California. We don't know, butit does happen, and that is really
beautiful. So um, well foryou, what about you two? First
of all, Karen, did howdid you let Will talk you into be
on the co host? Talk tome in so much? I don't even
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know. I was cute, right, Yeah, I was just thinking about
this when he was talking about this. I'm like, when did I start?
Like? Why did you? How? How did this happen? But
he asked me to join him.I don't remember when or why do you
remember? Yeah, we brought youin because we were having the bananas on
our show, and so friends ofours from Orlando. We live in Orlando,
Florida. She was a radio DJfor a long time radio personality and
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she had a spiritual awakening of herown when they went to Africa and we
brought her and her husband on totalk and she's a she's a quite a
plegic. She actually was in theOlympics, Paralympics. I mean, she's
she's she's not him lighting like youname it. It's incredible, remarkable woman.
So we brought her and her husbandon the show to talk, and
because we knew them, I'm invitedKaren to come on as a guest host
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for that episode. Carl, wehad so much fun. It was such
an amazingly wonderful conversation that I wouldinvite her all the time to be a
guest host again because it was Itchanged the dynamic of the show so completely.
Meat is so much more dynamics,so much more engaging, so much
more fun to listen to and tobe part of that. At one point,
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I said, you cannot not bea co host on the show,
So then we rebranded to the SkepticMetaphysicians. Yeah, maybe I better get
a co host. No, youdo great on your own, Carl.
I have sixteen pound cat named Maya. Maybe she can help it, maybe
you Oh yeah, perfect, Shedoesn't push stuff off that the microphone off.
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Well, you you mentioned you wentthrough the dark night of the soul.
I'll tell you. I think everybodygoes through that. I mean,
I mean, just a couple ofweeks ago, I was I was having
a you know that type of episode, and I send a message to a
text to one of my colleagues andI said, yeah, going through this
blah blah. But she goes,oh, so you're humaning, and I
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go, oh, yeah, unfortunately, really good at humanings. Yeah,
that's a great point. I think, in fact, we're going through something
like that right now where we aretruly humany. We're going through an experience
that's making us remember a few experiencesactually. Yeah. But you know,
this is one of the reasons whywe chose to pursue this with the missions
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of Spirituality, metaphysics and Enlightenment isto find out how do we come out
of that that dark Knight of thesoul type of thing. And it's really
good. But you know, Ido have the excuse me have one question.
Um, you guys are a husbandand wife team. You mean evidently
you have so fun never any issueson that sometimes with this podcast. Oh
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that's probably one issue. Well,um, it's not. It's not untrue,
he says. Basically, I justcome in talk and leave. So
and he's doing all the technical work, and you know, but yeah,
yeah, I am. I am. It's not that I'm low tech.
I'm no tech, so you don'twant me messing with this stuff. Really.
There's funny because I do professional raceannouncing for marathons and triathlons and that
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type of thing, and one ofthe local race event promoters has hired me
for many races, and you know, I come and agree everything set up.
I grabbed the mic, I talkedfor three or four hours or whatever,
and then I leave and he callsme, Mike drop Carl, where's
my check? Very good, Mikedrop Karen's check. But to go into
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it, into the answer a littlebit more fully, more succinctly, she
and I actually don't agree, don'tsee eye to eye on a lot of
our belief system things. Yeah,And I think that's what makes it so
good, because we are giving eachother the freedom to know that there are
different paths and my path is differentin her path, and it's perfectly acceptable
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for us to have different paths.It's when I hit her, what are
you crazy? That's when you're inthe room. You know you can't do
that. Yeah, it's gone fromreally trying to convince each other or persuade
each other to just trying to helpeach other learn how we see things.
Yes, you don't have to believemy way, but but really this is
how I feel, and I justwant you to understand how I feel or
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how I see things. Yeah,and that's made all the difference and the
keys to accept it, you know, yea, yeah, you know what
many ways that makes you a goodteam too. But I just one quick
question that one guest you said thatcame up. She's a paraplegic, a
lumpian. You said the show wasabout bananas. Not sorry, nor is
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faster her radio her radio personality isit was Jenna Banana. It's the Bananas
because it's Jason and Jana Banana,but it's it's the last name is Shelfer.
But we called them bananas because ofthat internally in fact, Oh my
god, I hope they'll listen tothis show because I don't know we called
the bananas. But they're wonderful people, they really are. We love them.
And so that's it was really aboutspiritual awakenings. Period they went on.
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Ah, they had some Jana specificallyhad some depression issues. She had
some serious issues with what she wasgoing through. She was having some challenges
with her career, and they wentto Africa. They went on a on
a safari and remember she's in awheelchair and one time there was a lot
of friction between the two of thembecause Jana was not feeling well, so
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she didn't want to do a lotof things. So one morning they woke
up they were supposed to go outon a on a safari and Janna was
like, I'm not going. SoJason said, okay, we paid all
his money, I'm going. I'llsee you in a bit. So he
went and she stayed in the tent. Yes um. At one point she
heard the diswakee talkies and she wokeup to the walkie talking going cocka,
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do not move. What the heckis going on? So she gets her
someone to her wheelchair and she asshe's going towards the flap of the tent.
She hears again no, but donot move. She opens a flap
and she is completely surrounded by aherd of wild elephants. Oh my god,
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if right in front of her isthe baby elephant. Oh no.
And if you know anything about Africanelephants, they do not play with their
babies. But she and this babyelephant had this moment where they connected and
they just stood there her in themiddle of this herd of elephants in her
wheelchair, in her wheelchair, faceto face with a baby elephant. They
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just looked at each other. Theyconnected in At one point, one of
the elephants just turned around and startedwalking away, and then they all followed
along. Yeah. Yeah, andthat brush with nature was what she needed
to connect her to understand that weare all connected, that there's an energy
out there that isn't easily recognizable,but if you take a minute and connect,
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you can find it. It's that'sthe whole story was remarkable for me.
I was just about to say,that is a great example of energetic,
energetic connectivity. Yeah, and wow, that was That's just awesome.
So well, you know, I'vegot to ask you this. You know,
I've been watching and listening to yourshow for a while and and what
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does for you? I mean,I know it's it's personal emission and seeking
and finding and understanding, but whatdoes the word metaphysical mean to you too?
Karen Um It means the woo willand I have a slightly different take
on our podcast. Like we bothcome, we coom it the same thing
from different points of view. Hetends to be more into the science of
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it, the quantum theory, andI am more into the feeling of it
all. So I think in ourcase, metaphysics is the combination of those
two things that you can't necessarily seeor a normal life explain there's something there,
But yeah, I think for methat's what it means. For me.
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We know that science will never beable to prove any of these things
because the act of looking for answersgives us nothing but more questions. We
found that when we were doing quantummechanics and we were looking for the very
smallest particle available. The minute wefound the smallest particle that exists, we
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look closer and we find that there'syet a smaller particle still. So the
act of us looking for that answerit manifests into oh he wants they want
to keep looking for the smallest thing, Well, let's keep giving them smaller
and smaller so they have they canalways keep looking. That's the way manifesting
works, right. The more youwant it, the more the universe is
going to go Okay, let's makesure that they continue to want it.
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So that's why you have to bevery deliberate with the wording that you use
when you're trying to manifest things.So, for me, metaphysics is the
tools that you use to reach spirituality. Spirituality is what we are all trying
to achieve enlightenment. Metaphysics is thequote unquote scientific way to measure your your
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success in achieving enlightenment or a spirituality. And that's what made it palatable for
Will. Yes, yes, heneeded that scientific proof. Yeah, and
I'm different. I grew up inNew York, Carli. I can't just
say if you say to me I'mpsychic, I can't just go, oh,
okay, tell me more. I'mgoing to go, oh, you
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skeptic. Right, But to theway you describe that here and is you
have more of a feel for it, and Will wants more of the scientific
But but you know, that's oneof the things that things that draws me
into it is that for all ofmankind's history, spirituality has been saying,
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you know that there is another realm, in the unseen realm, where we're
connected to all that is in theinfinite and now over the last one hundred
twenty five years. Quantum physics issaying the same thing in scientific lingo,
but you know, just different wording, but saying the same thing. So
these two are traveling parallel to eachother. But so what I like about
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it is science is supporting what thespiritual teachers have for so very, very
very long all of mankind. AndI think that's why you and Karen and
I we can do this now.If we had, you know, even
though podcasts didn't exist, you know, one hundred hundred and fifty years ago,
if we had done this, weprobably would have been burned at the
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stake as which is there something thepeople have the desire to know? And
I believe that we're getting that outthere and allowing people helping them to understand.
Yeah, no, there's no doubtabout it. And in fact,
science is coming in kicking and screaming, because I just read an article last
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week that talked about the fact thatthere is no possible way that there could
be life after death. I justread the article last week. There's so
much evidence on the contrary. Quantumphysics talks about it in a very specific
way about how there can't not belife after death, we're energy, for
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God's sakes, you can't destroy energy, and yet scientists are still going nolah
blah oh. And that's exactly howthey sound too, exactly West Well on
that, well, I have somany questions about I love what you guys
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do, now will I've heard youmentioned in the intro of your show a
number of times that you actually joineda witch's coven just to find out more
and experienced it at all. Howdid that even? How do you even
find a coven on? What wasthat? Like? You know? No
one's ever asked me that question.That's a great question. I just googled
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them. No that I did notknow. That's a very good question because
they are super secretive. In fact, I joined this coven when I was
living in Florida and I was afrequent visitor of a metaphysical bookstore down there,
and I would take I got raikycertified there, and I took different
classes there. And as I spenttime there, I started learning things and
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meeting people that were frequenters there aswell. And I started in my search
really looking into all kinds of things. I looked into every religion imaginable.
Wicca is the coven. The witchcraftis Wicca's. It's another religion, so
for me it was natural to explorethat too. And they've got all these
books in this bookstore about witchcrafts.I started reading them, and as I'm
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checking out with these books, theowner of the store who's checking me out
looking at me right, And everytime I would come up with another book
on witchcraft, she'd look at meagain. And after a while we developed
this friendliness I have lack of abetter word. I was going to the
rapport were I was going to theseevents all the time. I was obviously
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expressing an interest in Wicca. Andat one point, as we were just
talking coundubal conversation, she said,I can't help but notice that you're interested
in witchcraft. Is there something thatyou're specifically looking for? And I explained,
I'm just looking to things, andshe said, well, you know,
there's a group that I know thatis doing a I think at the
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time was either Swan or Winter Solstice, some some ritual and they said.
She said, I if you wantto come as a visitor, we'll be
I'm sure I can get you aninvitation. Are you kidden? Are you?
Of course I would love, Iwould love to be invited. So
as it turns out, she wasthe high priestess of the coven. And
because they're so secretive, they're verycareful as to who they invite in.
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And the first thing they do isthey invite you to come to some of
the rituals so that the members whoare unbeknownst to you are checking you out.
You don't know they're members of thecoven because they don't tell you that
that you're just they're appreciating this ritualwith them, and a little by little
they all decide yes, yes,yes, yes, and they extended invitation
and they did, and they extendan invitation to me, and I think
there was four other people that wereneophytes that were initiated. Well. And
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then you have to go through aperiod of a year and a day where
you've got to be learning all thethings about Wicca and all they go to,
the all the rituals that they do, and you to, at least
in our coven, we had tocreate our own so our own robes that
we wore in the rituals things,because you're putting your own energy into it.
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I mean, there's everything that theydo, wait you can sell.
I cannot. That's why I'm nolonger on the coven. No, no,
it was. My robe was woeful. It was well, it was
terrible. But but they think it'simportant. Everything that they do there's a
reason for it. You're imbuing yourenergy into these things. You have tools.
They have athems, which are bigknives. That's what people think witchcraft
(25:29):
is devil worship and sting because theyuse tools that are specifically meant to focus
your energy into things. So theyteach you some of these things for that
year and a day before they initiateyou. Once you're initiated, that's when
the good stuff comes in. Butnot until then, not until then.
So your robe said Miami dolphins onthe bed. It probably should have.
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I probably would have been better takinga jersey and repurposed it. But now,
so I'm curious. This was beforeyou started a podcast, so on
your own personal seeking. Yeah.So, so many people with a religious
background of Christianity or whatever would say, well, isn't that the dark side?
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I mean, is that an appropriatedescription. It's not. It's not.
In fact, just the opposite.Witchcraft is white magic. It is
all light. There are covens thatare focused on the dark. I understand
that most Wicca all it is.It's an earth based religion. They worship
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nature and there the moon is theirgoddess. At least in this coven,
the moon was our goddess. Andthere was the god of the hunt who
happens to have antlers. And weshouldn't get into the conversation of where Karen
knows. I would love to takeit. But a certain pope decided to
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make it evil devil, and hedragged people kicking and screaming to burn people
at the stake because they were doingthings that that was contrary to what that
particular pope wanted them to do.It's unfortunate at the time it was very
fear based. Not a lot haschanged, but it was really fear based
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at the time, and a lotof people suffered for it because of it.
Exactly, Well, we could wecould do another entire show just on
what organized religion has done for tomankind throughout all of history. So but
we'll say that for another show.Wow. So um, that is pretty
amazing. In one thing, I'mgoing to go back to the shows that
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we do and the guests that wehave, and I have to ask you
this because I know both you guysand myself had have had some pretty amazing
guests on What is one of thewildest experiences and guests that you have had
on your show? Can you definewild? Wild, goood or wild bad?
A lot of different directions? Memorable, caring well, which one?
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Which one? Are we thinking thesame guy? We are? We had
a guest whom we introduced him throughhis work and books and whatnot, and
pretty much the first statement that hemade was I am the Light. So
meeting someone that you know, that'shis belief is that every living creature on
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the world will go through him,oh when they die. So that was
very That was a very very interestinginterview. Where do you go from that?
You're the light? Okay? Andyou didn't say anything about this in
the pre interview, right and we'retalking beforehand, he didn't mention anything like
that he was a spirit medium.He was. He had said some things
(28:59):
to me before we started ring thatmade me go, oh, this guy
might know what he's talking about.And then as soon as we started recording,
Carl the very first question, hejust went dropped that grenade. And
that's when you said, okay,we're done. I mean I probably should
have. Uh, that's not that'snot fair to say. Who are we
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to say that he's not the light? Yeah, I don't know. All
I know is that that sounds exhausting. And he told me I'm next,
and that's a little scary. Yeah. Well, you know, I gotta
I gotta throw out one for oneof my favorites. Um Um. I've
had her on my show twice achannel uh, Christina Hill. Christina Hill
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channels um a Syrian from Serious B, a galactic being called a Fella who
is a twelve D ascended Master andshe is actually channeled on stage at Carnegie
Hall with um uh, one ofthe famous really themous guys, a couple
of people. She's actually done iton stage. But I had her on
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my show first with my mentor,Christy Whitman, who is now a channel
for a group of ascended masters calledthe Council. But so I had Christina
on my show a channeling for Shewas solo channeling Othella and it's she's amazing.
She is, I mean, itreally is phenomenal light. She just
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lights up the whole screen when she'schanneling in her whole demeanor and speech,
changes. But the greatest thing wasothellam imitated dolphins. Othella did the channel
being because dolphins, evidently, accordingto Othella, come from serious being.
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They're enlightened beings on earth. Andso if you ever get a chance to
go check out that episode with AthellOthella and Christina Hill when you hear in
a ended master imitating dolphins is well. And that's one of the things I
want to ask you when we getyou on our show called because I listened
to your show as well, andyou talk to these people that channel these
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incredible beings. You are so presentwith them. Whenever we have a channel
in our show, it takes mea minute to really get him out my
head or I like, is thisshe put me on because this is a
little weird. Weird at first,Yeah, but you are you just right
there. You ask these questions andyou have no doubt whatsoever, and that's
wonderful. So I need to knowhow you do that because I need to
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wrap my head on that's the skepticin you. Yeah, I am so
open. My heart and mind isso open to all of this because you
know my burning question for a longtime, and I believe you have the
same thing as there's got to besomething better than this. You know.
I I rarely ever watch television andI turn on the TV and there's wars
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and rapes and shootings, and Igo, click, go, there's got
to be something and better. SoI'm open to that. And you know,
to me, there's no reason,I mean, why they can't and
why they don't exist, you know, as a matter of fact, like
we said, we both have hadchannels, mediums and members of galactic federations.
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So so for you, I mean, I guess you kind of still
maybe that mentality and nothing wrong withus. But I'll see it when I
believe it, you know. AndI'm on the other end, I'll i'll
I'll believe it. No, wait, I'll see it when I believe it.
Is that it No, Yeah,I'll see it when I believe it.
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That's my part, right, youhave to believe it first. Yeah.
No, you're absolutely right, Andit's something I gotta get better at
for sure, because I do.I feel uncomfortable, and I called it
out. We had the Juda Collective. I'm not sure if you have heard
the Juda Collective, but it isa collection of three hundred and fifty thousand
angels that move as one being.Yeah. I heard some of that.
Yeah, And there's one lady Angiechannel the collective and I called it out
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on the show afterwards after she finishedchanneling, I was like, I gotta,
I gotta be honest. It wasa little weird for me at first,
but then it became so natural aswe were talking to the collective,
it just became this, Oh mygod, yeah, this is this is
right on. It felt so naturaland so right that it took I suddenly
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all my skepticism went out the door. And there's something just so much that
happens in that in that episode.Uh, if if you haven't seen it,
you gotta check out Karen's reaction theminute we introduced the collective. But
um, but that's been that's beenthe one of the biggest challenges for me.
Um. But one of the mostfun episodes for me that blew my
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mind was the reverse Speech episode.Really Yeah. There's a gentleman in Australia
that has dedicated his life to investgetting this phenomenon, and he was on
the RT Bell Show. He's beenon he's made the circuits. And remember
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back in the eighties when everyone wasall up in arms. When you've played
the record backwards, if you havethese satanic messages and things like that,
Yeah, right, Yeah, thatwas a big thing with the Beatles.
Paul's dead. Yeah, and hes DC you know, like, well,
apparently that's a thing, Like that'sthe real thing. And he's dedicated
his life to it. And hecame with a bunch of clips on our
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show, and he played them onour show, and it was remarkable because
it was not like he said pineapple. No, this was like pineapple.
Oh he said pineapple, but hedid say pineapple. Right. You could
definitely see and hear I know whatyou can say, Karen, in that
sense, we're swapped. You werethe skeptic and I wasn't. Oh.
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He would tell us what to listenfor, too, so that that was
the only thing you could hear them. Sometimes I was like maybe, But
when he told us what to listenfor and you played him, we heard
them very clearly. But I wouldhave liked to hear them before he told
us what to listen for, well, just to see if we would hear
it on our own. Yeah.But the gist of it is that he
believes that our spirits are talking toeach other unbeknownst to us, unknown to
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our conscious mind. So as we'rechoosing the words we're using, the radist
speech at which we're talking, theinflections that we're using, we are talking
in one direction. And then there'sanother layer, a subconscious, deeper layer,
where it's our higher selves talking toeach other in reverse speech and giving
each other messages that cannot be lies. So he played some clips where obviously
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politicians that were found to be lying, and the clips said as much way
before it was also found. Heplayed some clips where very specifically Kennedy had
a premoniship of his own death.Wow. And when he in his inauguration
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speech, he played a backwards forus and it said my head is hitting
the car side of the car,and it was very clear. That was
clear. Yes, well, youknow, I many people believe, in
including myself, that there are waymore subliminal messages that are fed to the
entire population of the world than anybodyreally wants to believe. Whether you know,
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you want to think of it asa conspiracy theory or whatever, but
you know, and it definitely flowsthrough the media. Visual imagery definitely has
a play almost on the level ofa hypnotic type of entrainment. So but
you know, again there's another wholeshow we can do too. But wow,
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that's and you know, really,I think this is why we are
doing these shows, because the bottomline is we're curious personal seekers ourselves.
But what we're doing and I wasgoing to ask this question, do you
feel that your show on my showor shows like it are making a positive
difference in the world, And Ithink we really are. I do too.
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In fact, we just got whatI think is my favorite review so
far. So now we get amessage when we get a new one,
and we always loved to read them, but we got one last week from
a guy who's a UPS driver,and so he was talking about how he's
driving along the road and he's beenbinge listening to all of the shows and
the only problem he had was thatthere weren't more shows because he's already listened
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to most of them. He onlyhad a few left. He's not but
he you know, he said he'dbeen interested in this stuff, that he
didn't really have any friends that hecould talk to about it. But he
ended the review with a statement thatto me is like this is our he
is summing up what our goal isand he said, thank you for helping
me to feel normal. And Ithink so many people are starting to have
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these experiences or opening their eyes andtheir hearts and their minds to everything that's
happening, but it's still so fringe. I mean, it's growing, but
it's still fringe. So I thinkputting the podcasts that we're all doing out
there and spreading these messages of acceptanceis helping people to feel more normal and
to be able to talk about itand ultimately that you know, word of
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mouth, it's gonna spread, andit's gonna spread and you know, raise
the overall vibrations in the sense ofcommunity and the feelings of support that we're
trying to do well. I thinkmany of us deal on a personal relationship
with our circle of friends and family. I know personally, and none of
my family or personal friends are intowhat I do. And when I and
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they say, oh, you havea podcast, what is it about it?
I go, well, it's aboutspirituality, metaphysics and enlightenment, and
their eyes just kind of glaze overand I go The cool part is I
now have a circle of colleagues andfriends from around the world that I am
connected with, and it makes meunderstan Dan that it is much more,
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you know, connectivity throughout the worldthan just and that's a big problem.
I think in our personal lives,so many we don't jive with the people
closest to us. Sometimes you haveto go outside of your circle to expand
and grow. And I think alsoCOVID kind of shine a spotlight on that
we were forced to be alone andfor some people it was what they needed,
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but for so many people they justrealize this, I can't live like
this, And so now I thinkthere's that need of connectivity in so many
different forms. So I think reallywhat we're doing is is great. I
mean i'd like to think it is. Yeah. Yeah, Well, you
know, we're gonna wind up ina little bit. We're talking to Will
Rondriguez Karen Ensley, the host ofthe podcast The Skeptic Metaphysician. Just an
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awesome show. I highly recommend youcheck it out on YouTube and we'll put
the links in the show notes andalso on Apple podcasts and everything else.
You know. I can have abit of a heavy question for you here,
and I mean mainly because you've hadguests like I have. Our shows
speak about how humankind in many ways, many of our guests talk about this
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humankind is in the midst of amajor transition from three D carbon based physical
existence to a five D crystalline basedexistence. What does that even mean?
Do you have you guys touched onthat topic? We did. One of
the wildest shows that we had wasa gentleman who his episode blew up,
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completely blew up, because oh thatguy. Yeah, he brought an awareness
to us that we're not just goinginto five D, We're going way beyond
and there are star seeds out therethat have volunteered to come here to this
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physical plane to help us fight awar that has been reached for a billion
years against artificial intelligence. And thatsurprised me because we've talked a lot of
people, and the point of ourshow is for folks that are just learning
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about this stuff to feel normal.But this guy spoke so far over our
heads that I had to stop themseveral times and back him up and go,
can you explain this to me ina way that I'm going to be
able to wrap my head around Becauseand of course, he sees a show
like ours, and he believes oh, they must be talking about this stuff
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already and you're us because we're notthere yet. And what that showed me
is that everyone is at a differentlevel of evolution for lack of a better
word, and you're gonna get theinformation that you need when you need it.
And I think because we pushed theissue a little bit with him,
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we got too much. So that'sI think the beauty of our shows in
the space that each one is setup in a different a different place to
give the messages that our listeners arelooking for specifically at that moment. Excuse
me, I don't know much aboutthe crystalline forms. Yeah, yeah,
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and either do I. I've done. All I know is it's part of
our evolution to a higher level anddimension. You know. What I understand
is that a spiritual awakening or ascend, when we ascend, whatever that means,
it's not what people are thinking.At least that's the messaging that I'm
getting from people. It's not thatwe're going to change into crystalline form,
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and maybe we are, I don'tknow, But the messages that I'm getting
is that it was misinterpreted. Andyou've heard of obviously your manifestation coach.
You've heard about reality transfer thing,and when we manifest, we make different
decisions, we split off in differenttimelines in order that that give us what
we're looking for. Apparently, whenyou ascend, it's it's a sense,
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it's getting to a vibrational rate thatyou're aligned with the universe. Virtual energy
is much better than we are rightnow. When you say that the world
is going through a seismic shift,I wholeheartedly believe that. Yeah. Yeah,
And I think what we're feeling asa as a civilization is that that
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birth, every birth is messy,is difficult, it is challenging, and
there are people who are digging theirheels going no, no, you can't
make me, and the other halfare going, oh yes, yes,
yes, I want it so badlythat they wanted too badly. Right,
So you're gonna find that middle ground, that sweet spot. Because I went
on a retreat not long ago.It was it was wonderful because it was
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all encompassing of all religions, butit was very Hindu, and I gotta
tell yeah, I found that theseHindus, they they really know what's going
on. I started reading The LivingGuida because the messages I was getting was
great. And the reason why I'msaying is because I found that the message
is just be, just be,be unattached, don't attach to things.
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Just be. The more you canjust be in the moment without expectation,
positive or negative, the easier isgoing to be for you to ascend,
for you to find your space.I had as a guest on my podcast
a few months ago a guy knownas the Bearded Mystic, and he is
a Hindu, and he comes onand speaks about the bug of a Ghita
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and always always the vendanta. Andit was interesting because you know, I'm
coming from North American, you know, spiritual aspect, you know, still
somewhat Christian based, and I'm talkingto him. We had a really interesting
discussion. But you know, Iwas going to mention another show that you
guys would really really find interesting inanybody watching or listening would too. One
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of my colleagues, my life coachingcolleagues, Nori Loved and her partner Aggie,
I can't remember his last name.They have a very popular YouTube channel
called Team Alpha Broadcast and they havesome of the most far out guests on.
They had interview and they have severalthousand subscribers and several thousand views,
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and they could do it live onYouTube. Team Alpha broadcasts and they had
a gentleman on who had returned toEarth. He was a human who had
been signed a marine detachment to fighta war going on on Mahars and described
it in intimate detail and how bodyparts are blown off and then they regenerated
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him. And I mean, thisis the type of thing, you know.
I mean, it's so far outthere, but it's so popular,
and so are our show seem liketame comparables. Absolutely absolutely. I think
one of the things that we found, Carl is that whatever you're ready for,
you're going to get. And alsoyou make what your reality is going
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to be. A war like thatdoesn't seem appealing to me, So in
my reality, it doesn't exist,because that's just that's that's that's we're trying
to keep everything very positive. Andyou know what you just said, We
make our own reality. That isso in alignment when my spiritual studies and
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even the law of attraction, becausewhat we project out there is what we
see what we believe we create.Wow, man, we're gonna have to
have one episodes here, But Idon't know, wind up one last thing
here for you. What about youtwo? Uh, personally and the way
you look and think about things andthe way you live your life from the
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experiences you're have you had on theshow, have you noticed any personal differences
in yourself? Oh? Boy,go ahead, Karen, I'll talk about
you. Yes, figure it will. Um has become a very much more
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centered person. He meditates a lot, and if he doesn't, he must
be sent to go meditate because he'svery different. That's exactly. I'm like,
go just go find a space.UM. And I think and I
hope that through this process he isbeing comforted UM by learning all of these
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modalities and the different beliefs and religionsand they're all one, and just understanding
that message. UM. It's it'sbeen just a beautiful transformation to watch him
become the person he is now.Yeah, I would agree with that.
I was the typical executive producer right. I was entitled, I was angry,
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I was competitive, I was adespicable human being for most of my
adult life, even some of mychildhood. I've learned that there were reasons
why, and at learning the reasonswhy, I was able to process them
and want to make the change,and that's from undergoing right now. So
it's helped me a lot in thatsense, for sure. And I could
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see that you know, well,you mentioned you're going through a dark night
of the soul a certain part ofyour area and your career and stuff right
now, and you can use thatnew centeredness to help you through this.
I mean, a classic line issometimes we understand that at the time,
what seemed to be possibly the worstthing that could ever have happened in our
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life turned out to be the mostimportant thing and the best thing that could
ever happen, because the universe leadsus in a direction for our over all
good and the good of all.And you know, I have a friend
that, when he was younger,was called in an office office of his
job. He was expecting to geta raise and a promotion. He came
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out he had been fired, andyou know, and he was crying,
and for weeks, you know,he would and he ended up. He
went off and he bought a farmand ended up living a life that he
was truly meant it. And ifhe had gotten that promotion, he made
have stayed there for forty years depressedand said, you know, and so
there's a real good example the worst, what seemed to be the worst thing
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could end up being the most positive, loving thing, absolutely, no question
whatsoever. The challenges that we're stillhumanity, and so it's hard sometimes to
maintain your center when you go intosome of these things. So you have
to. It's a constant reminder.But yeah, it's the more I remind
myself, the more I meditate,the more I remember, and the more
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I can keep myself centered and helpthose that are are affected by some of
the decisions I've made. Yeah,and as I said earlier, we're humaning.
We're way too good at it.Yes, well, this is just
great. On Karen's side, Iwould be remiss if I didn't mention this,
and she's going to hate me rightnow. But so I think we
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are blossoming. We have a blossomingchannel in our midst because I will.
I'm going to reveal it here sincethe Judah collective, Karen is undergoing his
spiritual awakening. The minute we stopthat interview, she experienced an a change,
(50:43):
a manifestation that she can't explain.I can't explain. It was a
it was a palpable difference. Andnow every once in a while, that
same thing happens and something will comethrough that is ownding. So you ask
if it's changed us, Yes,I think we both have changed exponentially because
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I believe that now there have beenseveral different guests on our show that have
called out the fact that Karen isangelic. She's an angel living on this
planet. I've been telling her thatfor a long time, but now it's
not just me. Now it's psychicmediums. It's people who know this stuff
that are saying there's a lot goingon in you, Karen, and have
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called it out. And now thisend, this angel is starting to emerge.
It's it's coming out. And Idon't know if the folks who've been
watching have been noticing, but everyonce in a while, Karen's face changes,
it becomes this something else, andI'm noticing it. And every time
I notice it, I kind ofwant to see if you notice, because
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she takes this takes on this thing, this look that happens every time.
It's astounding, it's incredible. SoI thought, you look kind of angelic,
Karen, when you're hanging around withthree hundred fifty thousand angels. You
know, they're by keeps just phenomenalguys. Thank you, thank you,
thank you for being on World Awakenings. So grateful to know you guys.
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How and where can people find theSkeptic meta Physician and maybe contact you if
they would like to. The bestplace is our website, Skeptic Metaphysician dot
com. And then we're on socialmedia Facebook It's a Skeptic Metaphysician and then
Instagram it's Skeptic Metaphysician Podcast. Probablythe easiest thing to do is go to
the website because we have links toeverything there. So if you got Skepticizian
(52:32):
dot com, you can leave usa voicemail. There, you can watch
the videos, you can listen tothe show there, you can subscribe to
the show. There, you canconnect with us on social media everything.
So yeah, that's probably the onestop shop for us. It's there.
Yeah. Well, thank you guys, thank you for being on World Awakenings.
What a blast, Thank you,We had a great time. Thanks
for all appreciate it. Hey everyone, Carl Gruver here, thank you so
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much for sticking around to the endof the show. After we had a
great conversation with Will and Earn fromthe skeptic metaphysicians. As I mentioned at
the start of the show, ifyou stick around to the end, I
have a little surprise for you.It's a great way to get a free
copy of my ebook, The ThreePillars, a simple three step process to
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This has been another episode of WorldAwakenings, the Fast Track to Enlightenment with
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your heart, and your eyes tothe fact that the world's population is
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now more than ever, awakening tothe truth of all things spiritual, metaphysical,
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