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Karen. Yes, we've had lotsof talented people on the show so far.
We've had psychics, mediums, channelers, healers of all types, all
kinds of people. We've even hadan animal communicator. Yep. But what
if someone didn't just communicate with animals, but it was also drawn to paint
a picture of the animal's soul aswell. Yeah, and what if this
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person could create beautiful abstract art notjust from animals and their souls, but
from people as well. Wow,that's exactly what today's guest does. Not
only did she communicate with our dogHunter and she'll tell us all about him
on the show, Boy, buthe also connected psychically with you, oh
my god, and happened to drawyour soul of a trait as well.
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So rather than try to reinvent thewheel, I'm just going to read an
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introduction for our guests that was sentto us prior to her coming on Perfect
Now It's a little long, sospar with me, her press release reads.
There have always been two sides toNicole Harp, the creative art side
that lives and breathes arts, andthe spiritual side with a deep connection to
nature and animals while she was well, while she has always felt she had
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to shelve her spiritual side as seemedto emerge on the canvas in organic brushstrokes
and authentic colors. Nicole is alifelong artist and educator with the Communication,
Arts and Design degree from Virginia CommonwealthUniversity. She spent most of her career
as an accomplished abstract painter, balancingthe functions of text and image in her
artwork. Now both sides have cometogether to enhance her multifaceted career as an
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animal communicator. Sessions with Nicole allowhealing for her clients, both the animal
and their guardians. She provides consultationsfor all animal species and community with animals
and spirit as well as living Nicolevalidates by revealing personal details and the essence
of your animal. This meaningful informationauthenticates a connection only you share with your
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animal. She communicates and answers questionsregarding personality, traits, behavior, health,
opinions, likes, dislikes, andmuch more. And Karen, Yes,
this is exactly what she's done forus, and I'm excited to dive
into this. So let's welcome tothe show. Nicole Harp, Nicole,
thanks for coming on. Hi,thank you well. And Karen and Hunter.
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Yeah, you can't. You probablycan't see him. Maybe at some
point you'll see him a show conferencecamera. I can feel him here he
is. Yeah, he's definitely here, so you're gonna see him sometimes everyone
will pop in. He definitely didnot want to miss this conversation since he
said, hey, you're talking aboutme. I got to be in the
room, and he doesn't have tobe in room actually, which is good,
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right, A self pathic so hecan see anywhere and you might not
see him looking at you. Hemight just be still sleeping. Yeah,
that's right. We should mention youdid this. You connected with him remotely.
You've never met him or us oranything like that, and yet you
sent us not only first impressions ofHunter, but you also sent first impressions
of Karen. Get into right nowbecause it's too much. But let's talk
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about you, Nicole. Animal communicator, but not just an animal communicator.
You actually draw portraits of their souls. How did this come about? How
did you all of a sudden justfelt like, oh, I need to
draw this soul on a paint.How does that happen? Well it kind
of morphed into that. So justa little little backtrack, h But I've
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always been in our out. I'vebeen a professional artist since nineteen ninety two,
but I've always been an artist withVCU. Great like second that started
school, you know, I justhave to put that out there. It's
a great But no, seriously,everything did has prepared me for this moment.
I feel like in my life mylove and commitment to animals, environment
and nature in all the projects I'vedone. I have a art site,
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professional art website, but I'm thatshows all my professional you know, my
CV and everything. But if youlook at that, it's um all these
projects, UM committed to nature inthe environment. And I've always asked what
can I do? What more canI do for animals? And you know
I started with you know, justas a kid and the rescuing, and
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then went into the shelters and didsome development and fundraising, and then I
started a business that was all aboutanimals and environment. Ecodog suffaintable dog watering
station took water from the roofs andfiltered it into clean drinking water for animals
through natural biofiltration. So it's like, hit on all the things I love,
right, renewables and innovation. Ilove innovation, Karen, that's you
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too, thinking about things that havenever never hey, hunter, that have
never think before that? Yeah,um and then um, you know I
created a project with the zoo andblah blah blah. But anyway, I've
always asked what more can I do? I said, there's got to be
more I can do for animals andnot about three years ago, Um,
I you know, had a kindof want to say, spiritual awakening.
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But that's when it kind of theeco dog. I was like, this
is this is not flowing, andI started doing human psychic work, intuitive
human psychic work. Then I stilldo human communication, but that kind of
morphed into animals, so will Sorry. The long winded version of the answer
is I've always been a painter,and everybody has energy, the essence of
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who you are. You can callit whatever you want. Soul. Uh,
you know, your essence, yourtrue self, That energy has colors
that it translates into, and Iinterpret those colors. So the communication is
me connecting to your higher self andyour your your energy, and then um,
I translate that. I'm an abstractpainter. Always happened. So I
know you said portrait, but itis a portrait. But it's an abstract,
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Yeah, portrait. We should weshould have specified. Yeah, well
I don't even this soul look like? Right? Well, and what better
way to translate the soul though?Right into color? Shapes and lines and
um not abstract um and and afew right, and some of them become
more realistic. You know, wealways want to see things in the art,
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don't we? As humans? Wealways want to Everybody is born,
you know, trying to connect.So in art, when you're looking at
you always want to find something thatyou that you can connect with. Um
uh, And hopefully you do inmy paintings. But the colors are what
resonates, right, So well,let's let's take a look at some of
them since we've since she was sogreat send us. So if you're only
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listening to the show, if youwant to take a look at the paintings,
go to our YouTube page. We'vegot a link on Skeptic metaposition dot
com and go directly to our twopage. You can see it. But
this is an example of one ofthe soul paintings that Nicole has done.
But she sent us a bunch.That's that's one. Here's another one.
Very interesting, very abstract, asyou can see for sure. And as
they go you can tell some ofthem are more muted in color, other
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ones have are more vibrant in color. Well, why don't you let her
talk about? Well, he's doingwell, how much student you're doing?
Well? Well, is it asinteresting will if I were to tell you
what they were, because you know, the goal is to have a show
of two hundred souls, and youknow, show these paintings. But in
the book I'm doing, I'm goingto have a visual of maybe if Karen
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says yes, Karen's face and alittle blurb from the communication, and then
the painting on the right. Soit is interesting to see here's Karen.
Here's my translation of her soul.I mean, I feel like you'll see
it, you know, you'll feelit. But they are so different Yeah,
they really are suit totally different.It's exciting for me. Karen.
Sorry, I used to have Karenshut me up please. I have a
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debree in art and I used topaint why We're Excellent. Yeah. And
so some times when I was reallyupset about something, I would sit there
and I would just whip out,you know, just like the emotions come
out. So I was wondering,is that kind of how feels like to
you, Like when you're getting thisthis vision of the soul, it's something
you just have to get out oris it just like a gentle Okay,
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it's like this. So remember whenI said it like everything's prepared me for
this moment. I feel like everythingI've been painting has been for someone.
And and actually and at several points, people who who people have purchase my
work through you know, throughout them. It's like it's you know, for
years, and some people have said, I'm like, this is like they
just know they're supposed to have it, and so but I feel like that's
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what this is like, Um,I'm painting, it is coming through me.
I just have the the um theknowledge from the good school to be
able to do it well. Umand so it is coming through me.
I'm lucky that way. Uh.It's like the communications, Yeah, I
feel like I have to get itout. Some will come to me and
some all ask like I've had thered one you saw is a co worker
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and I just like was pulled tothis, to my table to start writing
about her. And I don't wantto tell you too much about her,
um, but it is right,that's what hell. Yeah, but she
had something traumatic go on in herlife and I was just drawn to this.
But it's just like, you know, I wasn't drawn to this before.
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I've known her for twenty four years, but at this point I was.
And that's where we go back to. I feel like the artist healing.
Um. I feel like the communicationsare about healing. What what is
it that m the soul needs forhealing? But go ahead? How large
are these pings? I feel likethey need to be huge. Oh,
the soul just needs to explode out, like I love how you think?
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Do you think? Because I wantto do ones And if you know Hinde
Wiley but his um, his kitches. I love that that his paintings are
so large they can only be ina museum and so like they're huge,
right, So you have to havea really big house and lots of money
or being in a museum. Sobut I do see my I mean I've
always I paint with oil sticks.I've always been like a and I have
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energy. I mean you can probablylike you know, since I have a
lot of energy. And so especiallywhen I'm talking one of the easiest interviews
you've ever done. But it's onlywhen I'm talking about my callings, my
two collegues, rightly, So ifyou think about that vertical more vertical one
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you saw that had, um theyellows, it's a puppy collective. So
it's about it's like in general,not one puppy, but puppies. And
I do see people's souls huge likethis. You know, some just need
to be big. These are twentyby twenty because I'm paying for the supplies
and it's just a super expensive Yeah, it's a billion dollars industry. It's
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super expensive. Um, but they'retwenty by twenty on baroque boards, so
they're easily shippable and framable. It'snot going to break the bank. Yeah,
let's go back then before we I'veinto Karen Hunter. Let's go back
to the animal communication side of things, because you connect with them and based
on your impressions, that's where thesoul paintings come from. Curious how you
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connect. Is it something where youcan connect any animal at any time or
is there a specific way for youto do that. Yeah, so,
um, they're all different. Animalcommunities are all different, just like painters
or everybody's different the way they doit. And the only way to do
it is to do what's authentic foryou. And so I do the first
impressions. Um, I need aname and then an image. I don't
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always need a picture, but itis, you know, it's a little
bit easier. And then I dothose first impressions. Um, I just
you know, I sit but itdoesn't however, but I sit and bring
forth that energy. And then justit's a communication because uh, you know,
we're all essentient beings and it's acommunication imposed to a reading. I'm
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um, you know, open eyed, connect heart to heart. There's a
couple of different things. Um Ido you can do when you're walking hunter,
but I connect heart to heart,and you know, I don't feel
like I have to. They're alldifferent. Some are like oh man,
I can't wait to talk. Othersare like, WHOA, what's this?
I'm not sure there's you know,it really just depends. But I can't.
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I'm just gonna say this, andI don't like it. It doesn't
sound like but my my love forfor animals is so deep. I don't
feel like I have to tell them. But I come in. They know
I'm just I love them. Imean, I just love them. If
I meet people and they have ananimal, go shreak you the animal.
But and a lot of people arelike that, but um, I kind
of just you know, I'm here, I'm friends, you know, your
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parents friends. If they're kind ofstandoffish, introduce myself and I just let
it flow like a conversation. Hey, you know, I don't ask what
they do for a living, becausethat's a shark, but just just interact
with them and then I get thosefirst impressions and if that sounds like your
animal, um than great. Thenwe move on with a communica full communication.
But can I do I did itwith a gecko family that lives here
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and our and I live on thewater, so I do have lots of
foul and all. And I've communicatedwith birds and cats and dogs, so
you can do it. There's lotsof animal communicators who are trying to change
the world by connecting with whole species. And I have done that in a
group collective and it is wrecking powerful. It's amazing. Yeah, it's amazing.
And we can change the world byconnecting with the animals. Um,
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they're sentsheat beings. And I wantto say this Will and Karen, Um,
we all come from the same source, right, you call it whatever
you want, God, Prana sourcewe all call animals and humans all come
from the same place. Sure,So so that you know that that living
in harmony and that relationship if itcan you know, if it can be
understood better and we can live better. I agree with Can you do you
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ever communicate with any animals that havepassed? Always yes, I mean yes,
I meaning like yes, And it'svery healing. Um, sick animals,
animals that are coming into a newhome. Um uh there. It's
interesting because they're all about well,you know, animals, they live in
the present moment, right, They'rejust they're just zen masters and yeah,
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yeah, yes, well that's whatthey're here to teach us to be present.
So I always tell my please,by the way, please, just
because it's helpful. I think signedonto my newsletter because I send up newsletters
that the animals information the animal givesme to help us on our journey,
humans on our journey. And oneof the things they say is like get
down with them three times a dayon their level and be present and you
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to close to get rid of thechattering mind. Spend time with your animal
one on one. It will totallyexactly. It will. You don't have
to try to stop the chattering mind. It will happen. And I'm on
the floor center half today. Goodfor you, Karen. I love that
you've set You've set up your lifethat you can do that. Yeah,
which is why you're his favorite.You know. It's interesting. So the
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reason I was asking and I'm holdingthe past is I had a dog for
she was almost sixteen when she passed. Beautiful, the best dog ever.
Oh my god, Kia was justamazing. And it took me about six
years to get over her to bewilling to get another dog because I was
just devastated. She was this wimerinOrman mix and just perfect except for she's
done. She had allergies to everything, so the day we got Hunter.
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We got him on Valentine's Day,and which, by the way, was
her birthday, which was just ayou know, a quick plan. Yeah.
I was talking with Will and Siennasaid, oh, I wonder what
Kia would think about this and howshe would feel. So later that night
I opened up Facebook and scrolling andthe first memory that pops up as a
picture of Kira just kind of lookingat me with a little hat of thumbs
up. Yes, yes, Iguess she's okay with this. She wants
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you to be happy. Yeah,I mean you communicate with him. They're
all It's never about like how ohpoor me past or whatever. First of
all, they're always with you.And she was or to help orchestrating you.
Um, you all adopting Hunter.And she showed you that by you
know, putting the it's that stuffwe're making up. It's it's she is
working in synchronicity and things just blowlike that. But they're always about how
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to ease our grief. When Italk to him and um, just like
like at a client, he wasjust so devastated. She couldn't save her
dog. It was during COVID andthat and her dog, say, and
he said, you saved me.I mean it took a year for that.
Animals so abused to be able totrust humans again. And and she's
like, don't you get that youdid save me. Start I'm start crying.
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I'm not like shake it, butum, it is it is.
Um they're here, what they It'sall about our grief and easing that and
that is that's that presence, andthey're just there's no word for him.
Yeah, like, no, no, it's amazing. Everyone talks about the
unconditional love every every time you seethem for the first time, I'm upstairs,
I come downstairs and as soon ashe hears be coming downstairs, Stemps
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at the bottom of the stairs justwags his whole body. We will eat.
I saw you like twelve minutes ago, right, a new moment,
brand new days. Good morning,Oh my god, good morning are his
favorite words. Oh yes, yeah. Well he's here to teach you to
be more present, to slow down. Okay, I got your hunter,
I'll try to focus on it.And you know what's crazy is the more
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you slow down, the more youget things done. The more you get
done. I'm saying that because I'msaying that for me, everything's for what
I can learn, right, Sothat's but it is true. It is
true. Yeah, So will youcommunicate with them? Do you? And
it could be it could be verydifferent. Everybody might be different. But
is it just a like a clarcognizant type of thing where you just know
or is it you hear them ordo you actually have a dialogue with them?
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How does that work? Right?Well, people get it all different
ways, and I do get itall different ways, and you can practice
to your ways. But since I'man artist, I do get lots of
drawings, which is the best.And I'm always you know, I'm never
unsure when I get a drawing.It's them showing me mind to mind,
image to image, um, youknow, and I'll and i'll and sometimes
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they'll specify you need to draw this. Um yeah you need to draw this.
But um uh, but I getit um with just words or an
image. Sometimes they'll give me songsthat's awesome, like tell my parents,
you know, tell my guardian this, give my guardian this song, and
um, you know, it doesn'tmean it's that you'll know it it.
Maybe what's for you at the timedoesn't mean you're like, oh that song
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I knew when I was, butyou know, it's the words and the
song maybe, but they're always lookingfor ways to connect to you and and
and for you to continue. Whatyour gift is, you know, Karen
and Will, is that interaction withthe animals finding a rescuing. I'm assuming
you rescued. We did, yes, yeah, okay, good, good,
Yeah. Well, before we continueon, we've got to take a
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quick break. But when we comeback, we're going to dive into all
of this stuff even deeper, andwe're going to go into your communication with
Hunter and your psychic compression of Karen, and we will reveal Karen's soul portrait.
Now, yeah, we're just gettingstarted. Staying with us, We
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will be right back. Welcome backto the skeptic ment of positions. We
are talking to Nicole Harpcho's animal Communicatorssoul painter, and before we left,
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we were talking about how she communicateswith animals. We looked at some of
the paintings that she's done over theyears that she's been doing this, and
we tease the fact that she graciouslydecided to do one for Karen. She
communicated with Karen psychically and she didsend over her initial impressions of Karen and
Karen do you remember our impression whenshe first sent that over to us?
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I do, yeah, I rememberwhen I was playing it for us,
the two of us. All wewere doing was looking at each other,
going, oh my gosh, youhad nailed Karen so hardcore. There are
some certain things that Kres like,oh, I'm not sure, and that
reminded her of some things. Shewent, oh my god, things that
were even hidden from her that youwere able to call out. Now is
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it the same. Do you connectwith people the same way that you connect
with the animals or is that different? It's I connect the same way I
do. Um, they're not likeum? Well, um, I guess
the owners would be the one likeKaren and see if you see seeing if
it resonates. But I may sayone thing to that to that will about
with Karen. When it's about you, it's like when you're in the doctor's
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office and you need someone to hearwhat's going on, because when it's about
you, you miss a lot.Well, that's the same thing when you're
getting when and it may these thingsyou know or you don't know, or
they're kind of so subconscious or soit is interesting that Will is and I
see him do it often in theshow. Remind you. But it's so
easy to see. It's so easyfor Will to see, and that just
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makes you humble. Karen, It'sjust sweet. It's sweet that you do
that because I feel like when itis about you, it's hard to you
know, it's hard to see itat the time. But to your point,
when people keep my mining or keeppointing it out to her, you
think adventures should go Okay, okay, fine, well you know it is
about like what you're calling right,it's it's everything is like I think the
woman you had on before that lastepisode. I shouldn't be too many things
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that are new, but what isawesome, like with animal communication and speaking
to Karen's high herself, they doif you do want new ideas, where
should I go for a career,I'm not sure that's where you can get
him. That's what's fascinating. Hunterwill tell me things like being sure the
pile of sticks in the backyard,I think you may have sticks that need
to be picked up. Well,he's got a game that can kill him,
not saying kill who can which canarrive with two things at once?
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There's a stick game he came upwith to bring this sticks and we'll collect
the sticks that you don't have todo it. They give you ideas that
are cost nothing that will help makeyour life in their life better. Oh
yeah, all right, Well,I think that we've had Karen wait long
enough dive into your impressions of her, and into the course of the conversation,
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we will reveal the portraits. Iwon't hit anything. I don't think
anything was too personal in Karen.Right, yeah, I'm a crier,
just so I'm gonna both. Idon't know if there's anything crying, you're
criable, but I did highlight somethings. So in the in the beginning
of the communication, I talked aboutyou and Will getting together and kind of
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your journey together. So just thatKaren was the one you were supposed to
be with and walk through this lifewith the energy pull that pulled you two
together. Great thing is you're growingand learning together because you any one one
grows and the other one doesn't tendto leave someone behind. So it's great
that you just have this. Youknow, I'm gonna call spirits awaking,
but whatever you call all that youhave that you're I do feel like you're
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seeing things differently than you did thanyears ago, twenty years ago, and
and something to be said about that, like having a spiritual awakening or or
like a second career, like thosepeople live longer because you're happier and you
know. But for Karen, Igot the straw the strowing of an octopus
right, Well, they're brilliant too, but um, you know this this
arms moving on about and all thesetentacles, so the word soul seeker came
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out and like a visual of anoctopus with long outstretched arms and multiple multiple
things like this. You know thatyou have all these things that you could
do. So you're very analytical.You know, you're smart. And I
there's a drawing care of you infront of, um, a little school
desk right when of those wooden schooldesks, you know, so yeah,
that's you, and that comes naturally. It's that you. I see you
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add an old school desk. Karen'swriting diligently as she's as she does everything,
but then there's the creative side ofyou kind of skipping around. But
it just good that you call itout because she's very smart, actually has
two degrees and one of them isin anthropology, the other one is in
art. Right way one's not enoughyea. But I started out in engineering,
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so i've kind of all the collegehad took them all. Yeah,
she loved come to school, whichis not not me. Yeah, whether
it's her feeling for you, Imean, did you end up doing something
with that those degrees or did younot go that route? Well a little
bit, yes and no. Sowith anthropology, I actually ended up teaching
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a taught Banish and taught art andtaught anthropology at a prep school for about
ten years. And then from thenI haven't really done much with those I
used to paint. You know,I've sold a few paintings, but I
just then it is a tragedy thatshe's not still painting. We have an
easel right here in his room thatshe I mean, she's he's super talented,
but she's not really done much withthe time. Well, you make
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the time if that's what you wantto do, right, I mean,
are you doing what you want todo, Karen, I'm doing a lot
of things. Yeah. The octopus. Well, and that's a good thing
for like communications to kind of helpyou not getting off topic because everything comes
back to fuition. I'll come backto this. But three years before I
started doing this, I had areading from astrologer that I go to every
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two years. He's amazing, he'slocal. She'd totally get a communication from
whatever he calls it astrology reading.But he said he talked about shamanism,
and we're like, uh hah.My partner and I are like, whatever,
you know samanism, it's like gigstuff. And then you know three
years later, Um, that's whatI end up doing. But that's scaring.
So really, Karen good, asI'm saying, you said the thing
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about the octopus, I was like, Oh, I can hug a lot
of people. Yeah, and Iam super touchy feeling. I touch everybody
and I have to make myself stop. I don't like that. Let's go
back to this. I got that. Let's go back to the part then
about your need to move and dancein your arms and you're like that touching.
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So I see you dancing around withveils, colorful, smiling, needing
to dance, feeling all the stuckpast emotion and getting unstuck and coming away
from your bones and ligaments. Dancingis the healing for you. You should
always dance around in place with othersand movement, move your body, souls.
It's your soul's healing. It's acreative outlet for you. And you
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know, Karen, if you're notdoing one creative out that you should outlet
that you should, it will manifestin other ways. Right, cooking,
dancing, You'll be creative in otherthings. You just mentioned two things that
she does avidly, cooking and dancing. So one time and all all of
it's coming. And they make funof me at work because I'm the floor
manager for this John, I'm usuallydancing around dancing, cooking and dancing.
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Cooking and dance. What to me? Catch me? Yeah, So not
to mention you dance beautifully or Willwould say profoundly beautiful whatever quote. I
cheat belly dancing too, like thattype post even more opening up your chakras
with the belly dancing. The interestingthing we met right before Halloween, the
very first year she dressed as thelessons I can do the danswer. Yeah,
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that's great, my spouse can bellydance as well. Yeah, I
just she so that you don't visualizea man belly dancing, which is nothing
wrong with that. We're not atall, not at all. That's keep
let's keep visual. Actually have aman doing it. I mean you have
hair and fluid hips. And thenthe other thing is like your supersonic highway
to the spirit realm. So ifyou wanted to do this, you could.
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And what I mean is so I'masking questions like did you want to
study the supernatural or energy or lightwhen you were younger? Did you feel
this energy early on? When didyou shelve it? So I just had
this picture just drawing of you keepher highway. Um, yes to all
of those questions that really yeah,yeah, Well let me let me stop
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you for a second. I thinkit's important to mention that when you first
reached out to us, you mentionedthat it was really important you'd not listen
to any of our shows or watchany of our shows because you wanted to
get a clear impression of us,of Karen without being influenced. So you
had not listened to us at alluntil after we had said, yes,
the impressions are great, let's scheduleon your show. And then that's when
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you started listening to or watching theshow. So Karen all these impressions that
she was getting, she was gettingprior to knowing you at all, which
is the most astounding thing of itall. It really is. It was
like a month and a half agomaybe or something, and then I only
I only listened to you show alittle bit to see if you were like
how you were like you weren't craziesor like extremists extreme menist. I'm like,
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well that was like a better butcheck out what I mentioned what I'm
asking to be on. But it'slike, Okay, they sound normal,
normal, you know everything, untilI listened to just one the other day
and I was like, well,the good thing I've done my communication because
yeah she did the one on thenames. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
I have the everything coming out fromyour spirit realm. That's the an
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angelic realm. That's super highway ofcoming in, coming out. You're getting
information and then communicating information to others, whether you chose to do that in
an artistic way or verbal way.So it actually you exist better in that
unknown realm, Karen. And thenyour gift is actually two feet outside of
your comfort zone. And I canrelate to that because you perform better two
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feet like outside of that comfort zonewhere it's not I would say left and
right brain, because that's been debunked, but it's not the analytical where it's
been proven. But you take allyour awareness and then you synthesize and use
it to something that's innovative and creative. Deep truth and honesty about who you
are and opening into who and whatyou will be, acknowledgement and understanding of
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who you are and what you arehere to share and teach. It's interesting
you're a teach. You taught art, a teach art oh wow and half
for twenty four years, so that'sphasing out and this is a little time
phasing in. It's interesting to hearsomeone talk to you about yourself that when
they're talking to you about things thatyou just starting to become aware of.
This is a fact, fact factthat I'm like, I'm just learning about
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this. Wait a minute, yeah, don't you know before I really knew?
Right now, it's to give usthe courage, right, the courage
and the step into our um.I don't understand this word just came up,
divine presence. It's not how Ispeak woo woo. I don't speak
like and not that that's who woo, but it is the courage like to
be yourself and you're you know,to be your divine presence, and that
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is the true joy. Yeah,I love her divine presence, and Karen
knows exactly why I'm saying that inthe way that I'm saying it. Yes,
she is an angel, She's anangel among us, and she is
divine for sure. So well,Karen, on top of doing for some
like I mentioned, she actually wasdrawn to paint your soul. So I'm
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going to now without further ado.If you're all again, if you're only
listening to the show, you're onlygetting a portion of the information. You
should definitely check out our YouTube page. You can see here we go,
rum roll bam. Here is yoursoul portrait. You'll have it in person
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because I'll give it to you,and I actually have it behind me too.
But I have to like look atit close, Karen and look at
the textures and the lines. Butyeah, energy not to show Karen here
because what you don't see is Karen'sreaction was an immediate and full the Lord.
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Well some God. It's so whenI was younger, when I was
in college, and that's when Iwas really kind of getting into all of
this and letting myself feel everything beforeit got shelved, and I had this
dream. I used to have alot of dreams with the same theme,
but the one that really stands outin my head. I was this older
woman. I guess I'm older now, so maybe that's me. And I
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had taken a group of people too. I mean the word that just came
to was the veil too. Therewas like a wall, I remember this,
and they were sitting in front ofme, and I was talking to
them, and I was like,this wise old woman. And when I
saw that painting, that's I'm gonnalose it. Oh my god, it
is that's what I see. Isee the bigger figure and then like that
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the three students. So that wasthe color. That was the color of
the what. Oh, isn't thatinteresting? So they were like, and
I don't. I'm just gonna saywhen that I feel like, well,
okay, this moment was like kindof free Destin's supposed to happen that So
when I feel like, you know, like I love their souls, validation
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that our souls are meeting that way, I like the soul it's sold to
soul. Well, let me tellyou what I was before you go there.
One thing you want to mention aboutpainting. One more thing is the
overall color, the yellow. WhenKaren meditates, she hits from almost at
the very beginning, she's mentioned thatshe sees a swirl of purple, which
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is everyone knows is the divine color. And yellow. It's always been those
two colors. And Karen, A, you're talking about taking someone to the
veil, and the veil was likethis, then it would make sense,
you know. And it's weird becauseI've never I've always just said it was
taking to this wall. There's thiswall, this a vibrant wall behind us,
And just today I was that's theveil. Wow, this is freaking
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okay. And well, no,I love that we don't have to um
use the labels that we put onthings like veil or wall like it's a
flat wall. There's never nothing happening. I love the color can be the
communicator because um great arts great whenit's ambiguous, right. And then the
ambiguity in big ambiguity, Yeah,I love it. Um the um ambiguity
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speaks to you. UM. Butif I had to, like in the
communication, if I had to likesay what the colors meant, um,
like white as your awakening, umlose the connection to spirit read as your
creativity, you know, and that'sjust a you know, it's it's not
that, oh you don't have alittle there. It's no, it's where
you're allowing that creative let it comeout. I mean, it's all like
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it's all going to that realm thatwe talked about, the super Highway,
your yellow as your gut, knowingthat you've always had and listened to,
whether you know where or not,and you're light and it's white. People
are drawn to you and it's undeniable, Karen. If you just this moment
so you know, it's interesting towe'll have to follow you and see what
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you do. I mean, nopressure, no pressure Karen and their pressure.
Yeah. Well I'm glad that.Yeah. I hope you like it.
I'm glad you hey, I'd loveit. Thank you all my pleasure.
You mentioned earlier on that one ofthese things where when people see their
sole openings, it's like I musthave it, I must have it.
I think this is definitely yes.I would say pretty safe bet to say
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that Karen must have this painting.So we'll have to talk after we stop
recording. I mean, it's that'sweird, or is it? Like?
Yeah, I mean I haven't thatdream in a long time, and just
instantly, Sun, I mean Ihaven't. It's been years since I've really
thought about that dream. But Iremember that dream very vivid, and that's
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that's right. And it's all themore interesting that you hadn't thought of that
dreaming such a long time. Inthe minute you saw it painting, it
was instant. It was an instantknowing that makes us wonder what we remember,
you know, why are subconscious andare conscious? And yeah, and
that not just that, it's somuch beyond this physical form that we are
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just so much more, you knowthan that, that essence of who we
are, who our animal is,and so entertaining. Are you thinking,
no, no, no, youknow, honestly I get when you think
I get myself out of the way. I mean in communication too, it's
just like, um uh, justget out of your own way. And
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with the paintings, so I kindof give myself up to it, and
which is wonderful because I spent yearstorturing myself in the studio Katum, torturing
myself like oh, you know,asymmetrical ballads focal point, you know,
rule of thirds, uh, youknow, and you know it wasn't enough
enough, but I will, Um, yeah, I kind of have to
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help myself. It seems like Isay spirit because I'm not doing this.
It's coming through me. I mean, it's nothing the coal's doing. But
again it had the teaching has preparedme that the academia has prepared me.
And I do teach this, sonot this, but I teach art so
that. But um, I justkind of get out of my own way
and I'll ask you know, I'lljust kind of present and I like sitting
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in the power whatever present, andand I paint and I just first when
I think about your soul, Igot an image and I started sketching it
out and then the colors just come. And I have to trust that it's
right. And if I start thinkingand not trusting, that's when I it's
all discombobulated. So now you trustand it just comes out. And you
know, I know peyte enough howto move it, and I know lines.
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And I'm not even going to askyou, Karen, how you feel
now, because we all can seeit's very obviously. What did you like
it? Karen? I'm glad youresonated with you. I should say,
no, you don't have to likeit. I mean you can glad it
resonated with you. No, Iwould say safely, that is certainly resonated
with her. Crazy. Well,now we're almost out of time, but
I definitely want to talk about thefact you are working on a book right
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now, right, a coffee tablebook, if you tell us a little
bit about that. So I'm workingon a I guess it depending on how
much your cost to print, ifI get an agent, how thick it
will be. But the goal isto like have a thick coffee table art
book. So, you know,two seconds or last, my mom's got
to mention she's in hospice and I'msorry, so um the book. She's
from New York City. My momboard and raised in Manhattan. Always supported
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my art. You know, shewas going to museum and stuff when she
was a kid, taking the Crosstownbus, you know east Ady person.
Yeah, so she's always been ahuge supporter of that. And so the
book is going to be a dedicationto my mom, you know, my
uptown girl or whatever. Whatever.You know. She'll love that. And
I can see it in New Yorkcoffee shops and high end bars, but
a big cape coffee table art bookwith like the painting on one side,
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maybe square, big painting on oneside, and then the communication on the
other. Animals human I do humanspiritual guides. I have something that a
person in her spiritual guide past animals, past humans. Um, the client,
her son and her grandfather. Yeah, who have It's it's just souls,
so whatever souls you know, um. Yeah, and then I see
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a show down the road, liketwo hundred souls and have the big ones
and the small ones together and veryvery cool. I'm looking for an agent
now, so if you know anyone, please you hear heard here. First
you're an agent, we get thehook up. So you were nice enough
to send us some samples of thebook and we're gonna share them here.
This is kind of what you looklike. This is Wolfie and you've got
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his communication there on the left,and you've got his painting on the right
hand side. Now, this paintinggot my attention because there's a lot going
on here. Yeah, it's interestingto hear the guardians. That was just
a little sniglet from his communication,because they're about like thirty minutes longer or
you know, maybe eight nine pages. But it's interesting. He showed me
his teeth, his pearly whites,because he had unhealthy teeth grunt, you
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know, in his lifetime. ButNorthern lights and that's the title, and
that's interesting his strength and his evotion. Yet I'm just like looking at it
and saying that. But I can'tremember what his mother said. It's on
my website. But with the wayshe described the painting was beautiful. I
could not describe it any better.So the thing with my mom, I
painted her heaven because with dementia youcan't focus, and you know, your
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noises are distracting, and so Ihave the painting above her bed so she
can see it. And when shedoes see it and latch on, she
just like kind of stays in thatspace. And I thought, well,
later, when this is all done, when I'm on the other side of
this, maybe I will go intowork with hospice and kind of paint try
to go in and with families andpaint those. So the thing is paint
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their family's soul. Because you canget two kinds of communication, one where
I'm reading back to you about yourdog, or you can get an animal
painting communication that will stay with youforever. And it's just a nice way
maybe for them to have their lovedones with them always. Yeah. Yeah,
I wonder if she could connect withKira and the afterlife end paint something.
But before we go quickly, Iwant to show another example. This
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one was Sammy, and this one'svery different. The colors are very different,
the way it's all shapes, itsdesigns very different. I wanted to
be sure I showed this one aswell. You know, it's crazy is
that dog is a terrier? Doyou know anything about terriers? It's like
ball, ball, ball, repeat. I mean, the dog is not
calm, but he chooses to befor his guarding, for his mother.
He chooses to be. There's somany times he could go off the rails
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and he doesn't. And it's funnythat I thought his painting would be completely
different, right, Can you askhunter to be good for us? I
think communicate the hunter. And that'sthe thing too, like if you have
certain things you're like if he's chewingon things or something, or or when
when when we're recording, could younot whatever? Yeah, I can definitely
like check in with him and we'regoing to have We're gonna be gone for
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two weeks, and I'm just soworried he's gonna think he's gonna abandoned.
I will let him know. Youwrite the sack he stand with a friend
of ours. Yeah, okay,so long as hunter gets exercised hunters,
yeah, most animals. But yeah, and then do you have bones you
can leave with him? Not bones, but something to chew, a calm
or something to Yeah. Yeah,yeah, we're gonna leave all kinds of
stuff stuff. But yeah, ourbiggest concern was, hey, we're coming
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back, right, Yeah, becausehe's had such a hard life before us
that we can't help but think thathe was probably abandoned by people in the
past, and because of his reactionto us when we got him, and
he's just settling in now, andit breaks my heart for him to for
me to think that he's thinking,oh my gosh, you just got this
family. They just gave me stabilityin life, and now they're leaving me
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kind of thing he's not thinking.And I'll send you his full communication or
do an audio and send it toyou, because the one thing you're talking
about, he suggested when he firstmet you all to pet with the backside
of your hands in space. Rememberthat, right. I don't know if
I even told you, did I? Yeah, okay, yeah, but
I'll send you this whole communication.But he knows that he's in it to
win it. He's in it foryou, with you, on your family
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till the very end, a longlife, a long life together. Yes,
it's a good choice. It's wherehe's supposed to be. Yes,
he's it's a divine intervention to puthim with you, for sure. He's
such a nerd. I think hefits in perfectly. And he's really clumsy.
It's hilarious right in he's yet soloving. Ye oh my gosh.
Such let's get him. He Will'sgonna help him with confidence, which he
totally needs, you know, becauseWill has has confidence and that's great.
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Yeah, and that's like he neverreacted adversely to me at all. But
I think he maybe had a situationwith a man or something because he has
a complimi shide away when Will's youknow, picked up a room or something.
And that's what communications are good for, especially to like adopted animals,
rescued animals that come in and youknow, these the challenges that we're having
and then I address those challenges andthings do get better. Let me ask
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you, did you notice any bettereye contact or loving from him since I
communicated with him. You don't haveto say yes if you didn't, but
no, I think I did.Since the first time you communicate with him
to this time, I've seen differencethroughout that course now right before you came
on. So here's a question.He's from Puerto Rico. Do you have
to communicate to him in Spanish?Yeah, that's interesting. There's been a
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couple indulge in Puerto Rico that I'veconnected with that there is no barrier the
sauft thres, no barrier of languagebarrier. All right, is there anything
else that we haven't touched on?You want to make sure it gets up
there? Just that it's all abouthealing, whether it's through the animal or
the human, and so a littledifferent with my communications. I usually get
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information because the human and animal areintrinsically connected. I get information for both.
I don't have to elaborate on thehuman part. It's up to them,
but it since it is a bondthat relies on each other, it's
good for us. It's I'm alwaysgetting what each it's a two needs for
healing. So um that and uhuh that I um, I guess that's
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it because I drew a blank.I'm just kidding that part. UM.
Well, it's just a healing ingrowth. And I just want um animals
and humans to live um as asas um emotionally connected as they can,
better understanding each other. UM justfor the animals, say for our sake
too. But right, yeah,that's amazing. We're going to add direct
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links to all your contactable areas inour show notes. If you go to
skeptic in position dot com, goto Nicole's episode page, you'll see all
of her information linked directly there,so it will be super easy for you
to access. And if you arejust listening and you want to take a
look at the paintings that we showedin the book, we will put those
on our website as well, soif you go to skeptic a position dot
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com, you'll see them laid inthere in the in the blog format as
well. Nicole can't tell you enoughhow much we appreciate everything you've done for
us. Thank you for coming onthe show. Thank you so much,
Thank you. Look forward to seeingyou a getting really soon because your local,
so we'll definitely get together. Thankyou so much. It was an
honor and thank you. I reallyappreciate your time and we appreciate yours as
well. Today's listener corner comes fromTim McGrath. Wow, we've got a
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Tim sent us a message through ourwebsite, Skeptic Manimisation dot com, and
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astral travel and I'm like you Will, I've got to see it and feel
it to believe it, but Iwould love to experience it you and me
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Tim and Cheryl McGrath. Well,Tim and Cheryl, First of all,
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