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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Karen, quick question. If someone walked up to you on
the street and said, hey, you are an archangel in
a midsuit, what would you say?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Exactly. See, last time doctor Alicia Doss was on the show,
she told us that most of us, not just you, Karen,
have ancient archangelic roots. And now she is back. This
time she's bringing the big wings with her. We're talking
about connecting to your angelic name, your cosmic purpose, and yes,
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night's burrito. So grab your halo's metaphysical family, because this
one might just activate your archangelic ancestry and help you
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Speaker 3 (01:04):
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And wait, you joined a coven?
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yep, all on the interest of finding something, anything, that
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Speaker 3 (01:19):
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Hey thereon will welcome back to an exciting episode of
the Skeptic Metaphysicians. Today's returning guest is none other than author, spiritual, intuitive,
transformational counselor, and straight up angel whisper doctor Alicia Das,
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with a doctorate in spiritual science and a groundbreaking book
on the Way with Hey House. She's here to help
us tap into our angelic origins, discover our divine name,
and maybe even remember how to fly nice. So, welcome
back to the show, Doctor Alisha DAWs. How are you
doing today.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I'm always happy when I get to be with you
guys and not like you and tell inappropriate.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Jokes that may or may not have happened before we
start recording. You're talking about it, and it may or
may not have been me who was doing the inappropriate jokes.
Just put it out there. But Doc, it's so nice
to see you again. The last time we were here,
we had such a wonderful conversation that we couldn't wait
to have you back on. So now this is probably
the second of many many times that you're can be
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on the show because you're one of our favorites. So well,
last time that you were on the show, you dropped
the bombshell about the fact that we all had angelic roots.
So what has been the feedback that you've gotten since
you've been on the show about that statement by itself.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Well, you know, it's not usually a state meant that
I just you know, like high paper or plastic, you
are an angel, it's not not genuinly, So usually people
have some sort of spiritual heritage, they have some sort
of they've done one of my classes, maybe you read
a blog, an article or something. So it's not a
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complete shocker, but so usually it's a Usually there's always
a follow up question, Well does that mean me? Is
usually the follow up question does that mean everybody? And so,
you know, usually I say, if you are asking the question,
it probably does mean you. Some of us have more
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of an angelic heritage than others. That doesn't mean they're
necessarily higher. It means that's their culture. Just like I'm
half Indian, half English, you know, so I might be more,
I might have my skin might be more. All of
that doesn't mean that I'm you know, it just means
some different than somebody who's Scandinavian. So so in my experience,
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so the whole book Your Angelic Ancestry. So they did
change the name from your Archangelic Ancestry because nobody could
say you're archangelic? Don't here?
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Did you see me stumble like five times? That was
a hard one.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
I guess it is. It's you know, not for me,
because I've been saying it since I was tiny. But
so it's now called your Angelic ancestry. Yes, people can
say it, you know, disturbing your archangelic name. So it
really is we were archangels before we were humans because
archieangels have souls and they have free choice also known
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as free will. And so to throw an angel in
human flesh where we have to decide what to do,
choose the highest choices without that convenient archangel above us
disseminating the will of God would be too much. So
my experience, and I work with people for thirty five
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years since I was a toddler, really has born out
that we were archangels because the archangelic is so much
more ancient than this latter day experiment of the human consciousness,
So that we were archangels before we incarnated into the
angelic to learn more about free choice, to learn more
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about co creatorship, and I keep going, but do you
have a follow up question? And I can answer more
specifically what you'd like to know.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
That is exciting and weird and scary you all the
same time, right, because we, how do I put this,
willingly gave up so much to be in this experience,
this three D experience. So the question that comes the
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beggs to mind is were we out of our minds?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
What that?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Why would we do something like this?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I'm with you, So that's gonna say.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
You can equate that to why did you decide to
be a mother because you give up.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
So much there? It's fare, you know, and yeah, I'm
so with you, brother. What the heck were we thinking? Yeah,
here's what we were thinking. We're in the soul realm.
It's all beautiful, it's all there. Or we were in
the angelic rome. We weren't our chan angel We're in
our pastel roads. We're like, we look at the human realm.
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We go, we could grow a lot faster there because
it sucks in so many ways. All right, it's it's
fantastic in so many ways, but it als so difficult
in the soul realm, where we were in the angelic
ground when we went, oh, that'll be easy, right, And
then we get here and we're.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Like, what have we done?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Changing bodies? Man's in you climate change? What the heck?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Right?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
And yet we grow so much faster here than other places,
precisely because it's so challenging. A lot of spiritual teachers
say that souls line up to incarnate, and specifically this
planet is more challenging than other planets. Even how do
we know that, Well, you travel the realm, so that's
a whole other story. But but you know, so we
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grow much faster here, and a lot of a lot
of spiritual teachers say souls line up to incarnate here
precisely because they grow so much faster. And my cheeky comment,
my cheeky retort to that is, yeah, and they line
up to get off too.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yes, I'm thinking about roller coasters, you know, and people
line up to go on the scary roller coaster because
there's the fun parts and then they're not so fun parts,
but it's.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
All about the ride.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, But you know that roller coaster those videos that
you see people strapped in and then all of a
sudden they lose their minds to pass out, and they
come back up and they pass out, and it's kind
of like, it feels like what we're going through, Like,
what the heck are we thinking? We're strapped in? We're like,
and then.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
It's incarnation, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yeah? Exactly, So we just got strap ourselves in and
hope for the best. So here's a question I did
not expect to ask, but something that you said, just
sparked that in my head, some people believe that Satan,
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for example, was an angel or an archangel that actually fell.
Some folks might liken the descent from the archangelic experience
or existence into the three D as a somewhat of
a fall. What do you consider, like, what do you
think about something like that where they could Satan have
(10:40):
fallen and fallen even more? Or how does how do
you put those things together?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I love that question actually, and you know, ask me
a lot of edgy questions, and you guys always asked them,
which is so great. So here's my experience. Satan is
the human this also meet Zach kind of not he
Satan is not physical but in the human essence or
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ethereal consciousness. Right, Satan is the earth bound form of Lucifer.
Lucifer was definitely an angel, is still an angel. Right,
but Morning the morning star in the morning sun, right,
the first son of God. Right, So Lucifer definitely fell
and fell very far right because at some point God went,
you know, this whole human thing is good. It's it's
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it's expediting evolution more. It's a lot faster than an
angel evolving into an archangel. Right, So, and yet it's
still going slowly, and it's all about balance and law. Right,
So it's not so much about learning, because if someone
learns about love and they make that higher choice, if
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they still have the karma to be killed four one
hundred and twenty two more times, they're going to live
and die and live and die, but not necessarily learn more,
just balance. So then the Christ plan definitely opinion, absolutely
not sequestered to one religion available to all who choose
into grace and love. But the Christ plan was incepted right,
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And Lucifer said, nah, huh, I like my plan better.
I like the Law plan better, and rebelled against God
and said, I want to enforce this plan. God allowing
us God, Goddess allowing us to have free will, so
that God and it's infinite bravery could see what happened. Oh,
this will be good. Right, allowed Lucifer to continue his
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plan on Earth through Satan, and allowed the Christ action
to be continued through Christ and beings Jesus, Roomy, Buddha, Zoras, etc. Right.
And so both plans concomitantly run on our planet, and
we get to choose which are we going which foot
are we going to have on which side? Or and
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can we pick up that foot and go, oh my gosh.
It's so many temptations. My momentum of this planet is downward.
But I'm going to choose up into do we did? We?
Are we here because we fell? I don't think so.
I understand why people would think that some people are
here because they fell. Absolutely, some people you know, made
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a miss, you know, did did some terrible, terrible thing,
and rut RoAF woke up here, right, But I don't
think that most of us fell. Certainly, we fall and
we rise again, and we make dumb choices and we
fall and we get back up right. But I think
most of us are here because we chose to know
far more about co creatorship and free will than we
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could have other places. So now I'm thinking about satan
we're gonna have.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I was not intending it to go in this direction.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Just one question, Okay, So you can't you mentioned how
I'm sorry, Lucifer wanted to go in a different direction.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
So why do you think we.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
I mean, unless the direction was really horrible, But it
sounds like the way you explained it sounds like it
was just different. So why do you think we have
equated all of evil and pain and ugliness and torture
and all of that stuff with Lucifer and Satan.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Oh, such good questions, y'all. So I'm going to ask
somebody who knows a heck of a lot more than me. Well,
I'm gonna let Archangel Michael answer this. So what I'm
hearing is, before I share that, it's often said that
archangel Michael Michael, by Rudolph Steiner, by many Edgar Casey,
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on many eliminaries, Archangel Michael is a huge purveyor of
the Christ and one with the Christ. Okay, So what
I hear from Michael is And by the way, there
are spiritual teachers who also say that Michael incarnated was
the first archangel to incarnate on the human plane as
Adam No kidding, wow, right right now? Do Obviously the
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whole creation myth is very anthropomorphized. Do I think it
happened exactly like?
Speaker 3 (15:10):
No?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I think a lot of it was symbolic, But that's
what that's who started it. So what I hear an
answer to your question is Lucifer is equated with so
much evil because, first of all, to go against the
will of God when you know better, is considered evil.
Another definition of evil is unnecessary experience. It's not your karma.
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You know, I'm yeah, I murder you, but it's not
your karma to have been murdered. That's going outside of God,
and that's evil. Evil is not it's not going outside
of God's will. Nothing can be outside of God. And
so Lucifer's considered evil because there is a certain, a
large aspect of Lucifer that is evil. By that definition,
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nothing is outside of God. God is learning through Lucifer's shenanigans,
if you will, just as God is learning through Christ
and learning through through you know, Martin Luther King, et cetera. Right, Longer,
learning through Lucifer takes a lot more time. So when
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we knowingly go against the will of God, that is
evil and brings us into now we're not one soul
will be lost. So rather than going you know, not,
let our progression is straight up. But it's kind of
like this, right, and we go up. So you do that,
and you're going up, up, up, and then you go, eh,
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I know better than God. Oops, you fall, right, Especially
if you know what God's will here on this level,
us poor Claud's we don't always know God's will, right,
so we don't fall nearly as far as Lucifer, who
knew what God's will was and went against it so
tried to be as God, tried to replace God. And
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so that really is reprehensible, and ultimately it is not,
because ultimately God is the inceptor of all things, including Lucifer,
and Lucifer's plan is not so awful, not so fun either.
It's checks and balances, and biblically it's to the last farthing.
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His actual plan is not so evil. The execution of
it against God's will and the original reason for it,
I know better than God, is evil. And so when
we choose that, and we all have I know I
should do this, and I do this right, we get
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the consequence of that, which might be outward, but the
biggest consequence is inward feel good.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Right, which begs to really revisit the term evil. It
really encompasses so much more than you know. You think evil,
you think right evil, but evil in the way that
you're explaining it is much more than just like something
really bad that you did, but rather something that goes
against the will of God. I guess of what you're
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saying or no, or feeling that you know better than God.
So I guess around surround that the society humanity pegged
anything that was bad with the word evil, when in
essence it may not may or may not have truly
deserved that term, right mind saying that correctly?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Well, yeah, because ultimately there is no duality. There is,
but that's a big that's that's a that's a mastery
level lesson, lesson to be completely. You know, in the
Buddhism they say the root of all suffering is attachment. Right, Yes,
good and bad duality? So yes, is there evil? Of course?
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Ultimately is there evil? No, because ultimately we don't exist
in these separate bodies, right, But is there is that?
Does there evil playing out of them?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Yes? There is so evil actions or evil entities both?
Oh good God, no evil actions only.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Heard?
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Dear?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Yeah, there are there are evil entities, but do we
need to fear them? Do you know? Have you ever
had the experience will of really getting into a state
of forgiveness when someone did something against you and you know,
you had to give up that against this, that resentment,
and you got into a state of forgiveness and you
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saw that. Yeah, they said the mean thing, but it's
because they were hurting, not because they were actually evil.
It's because they you know, hurt people, hurt people, and
when you get to that, you have compassion and then
it frees up all the judgment inside of you. And
then you know. It said, if you knew the secret
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fears of your worst enemy, you would never hate them,
but love them. Oh, it's like that with Lucifer. Now
my espousing like go hang out with now, No, But
ultimately is anything outside of God absolutely not right so
and feeds on our fear. So we want to do
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our best to not go into fear. Right.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
So love your enemy as you love yourself basically. Yeah,
all right. Well then another departure from any of the
questions I thought, But you said something earlier that sparks. Yeah,
another question. You mentioned that we were all just hanging
out in the ethereal realm with our robes on, and
yet biblically the Bible describes angels very differently as big
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wings and robes and sitting in the right hand of God.
Does that mean we had a lot of eyes everywhere
and we're shaped like stars or like is it are
we looking at it from the wrong perspective.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
I think we look at it from the perspective we have.
Then there's no wrong perspective. I can tell you my experience.
If that's what you're asking.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Sure, we love to hear that.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
So yes. In the in the Bible, Ezekiel describes the
cherub them as many eyed and mini wheel not exactly
a sexy version of angels, right, not that, certainly, not
that fat baby's flying around that we're used to. Well,
my experience of angels is that they are formless, because
angels are not three D. They do not have these
as you call the meat sacks right there. Their essence,
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they're ethereo. They're formless. So when I tune into angels,
I might see a flip of a jewel toned robe.
I might see a sword, but I know it's symbolic
if I do, because their creation, their level is so
different from ours. So it's both. And often they will
come to us in a way that they that we
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can receive them. So often they will come to us
looking like a beautiful human because that so we're not
afraid of them. In the Bible, do you know what
the most common thing an angel says is in the
Bible bless you, Yes, but I mean very common. But
the most common thing is not bless you. Do you
know what it is that they say first, fear not,
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fear not. Oh that's true, because they are so awesome
and they are they really if you really perceive an angel,
they very much challenge our sense of separate existence, our
sense of self. They're incredibly well. They bring the divine
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right before us, which is shocking to our ego. Can
be shocking to our ego, So it's both. And do
I occasionally see a more anthropomore. Occasionally I'll see an
angel that you know, looks like a beautiful human and
and I don't think much about it because most of
the time it's just a knowing. You know, they're just essence.
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So I really say to people, angels probably don't look
anything like what we depict them in art. But so
what if that is comforting to you and that's how
they want to appear to you?
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Mazel Tov, Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
So when you feel them, when you feel that presence,
what does that feel like?
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Oh well, I just want to qualify my answer, Karen
with that's this is my experience. But however, you experience
them as equally valid. So I experience them as a
knowing like I experience love, like I know I love
my kids. I experience them as a tangiblelization of God,
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of the divine. It'd be like if a feather flitted
through here straight from Heaven and we were all stunned
into profound and sacred silence. That's how I experience them
as right here. But they take us out of time
and space into a more divine state.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
So.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
As you know, I've lived with an angel for seventeen
years now, and when her angelic persona comes out, it's
very different. It's very different. It's this persona owns the
room right, definitely. It absolutely just takes over the room.
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And it's almost like you'vel like a feeling of I'm
not worthy? Right?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Is more feel you're not worthy?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Correct? Yes, I feel I'm not worthy when I'm in
the presence of the angelic persona that comes out. Is
that the right feeling to have? Or should we because
like you mentioned, we all have archangelic roots. Should we
then not fall to our knees and beg for forgiveness
when whenever this persona comes out and not that I
do that. I'm just saying I've never done.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Karen's like, tell him he should fall to his knees
and beg for me. I do think it's an appropriate response,
and I have one cautionary tale with my answer. I
think it's it's again, it's a both, and it is
a very appropriate experience or a response. And if you
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didn't have that within you, you couldn't see it. If you
didn't have the equivalent right within you will, you could
not see Karen. Now, Karen is not even hiding the
fact that she's got an angelic origin. No, she's not.
She's not.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
She's yeh, she's she's pretending about me.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
But yeah, none of us are.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Buying it right exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
So are some people more angelic than others? Of course,
just as my now of like, I'm kind of have
all of Skain, you know so. So, But does that
mean it's any different than somebody who doesn't. Absolutely not,
you know. So, Karen's heritage and my hope you don't
mind me saying this one air herriage is she's spent
a lot of time in the angelic and she's wet
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behind the ears. So I'm sure that people's response to you,
if they have eyes to see, its like, ooh, there's
something special and magical and different. I don't know why,
but I really like you. I'm guessing Will is nodding
his head like that's what t'mes people's response, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Now does that mean Will is any less special? Absolutely not.
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It means Will has a different heritage. So I look
at you, Will, and you're someone who is a bit
more balanced than You've spent some lifetimes from the human
and the angelic and the David, which is a nature
kingdom other planets, whereas Karen and I are more like
we just kind of hung out in the Angelic and
then you know, decided to come to this crazy place.
So but I do you know? But again, I would
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say you wouldn't be here if you hadn't evolved to
an archangel, at least to some for some of your lifetimes,
you might have spent more as an art data. That's
the nature kingdom. Also not basic.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
I think he's called me an animal, right, So it's
almost like you know, you do twenty three and meters
or ancestry dot com whatever, I might be.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Your archangelic ancestry right.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Point zero zero zero zero one percent archangel and the
rest is just regular old human.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Right, quite zero zero zero You have a lot of
that too, or you wouldn't be with Skaron and you
wouldn't resonate with her, and you wouldn't you would have
a different response than fall to my knees. You would
might have a responsive as we're talking about fear, or
or even an aversion because when you have a bright light,
we tend to see a shadow in relief to that. Right,
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So if you didn't have a lot of arch angel
and it's funny because as I'm saying this, like I
can see it coming more forward. It's just that it's
like Karen left the angelic you know a few years ago,
and you know you moved out about twenty years ago,
like if you were looking at it this lifetime got it.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
So I'm more road worn than Karen. Basically, yeah, all right,
well cool now. Also, last time you were here, we
talked about Karen's angelic name. Do you remember what that was?
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Don't say it though, I just think it.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Don't say yes right in your book, which is actually
people can pre order now. I know it's been delayed
until February.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
I believe March twenty twenty six because fires.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Okay, so you can pre order it now in anticipation.
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Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah, so I you know when I when I, I
was originally going to write like an angelic compendium, and
hay House is like, that's you know, that's a lot
in one book. But we think that the sexiest part
of the book is the angelic name. Everybody wants to
know their angelic name. There arcangelic name, right, and please
tell me my name is not Bob. Probably not good, okay.
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And now they're they're pretty. They're much more high falutin
than that, and Robert a little more hypholatan. And so
what I did is I recorded I used to give
people there I'd not give, but I would guide them
through a whole meditation in my classes to get their name,
and then I would take them into a separate room
and rEFInd it, because you never want to tell anybody
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your archangelic name. Angels have one name, So we have
lots of names because we embody many times. You know,
we're ming pal Chow, then we're Bob, you know, and
we're Sped, etc. Angels. Angels are the opposite most ways
that angels evol are opposite to humans, by the way,
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So angels have one name, one body, many lifetimes, and
so that one name is incredibly important and sacred, and
you don't want to tell it to somebody because it
could give them power over you. So then what I
did is I recorded the meditation, and I set it
out to tons of people, and I said, can you
get your name from this? And many people wrote back
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email back and said, oh yes, I did you know,
or maybe even I got more than one name. And
then I kept refinance and you know, so I asked
for feedback on the meditation, you know, and I kept
refining it, refining it, refining it. People people reliably got
their name from that meditation. So so it's in the book.
(32:23):
The whole how to is in the book I do.
It's like the I think it's the sixth chapter because
there's a whole lot of foundation, so you remember your
name accurately, and then you can go and listen to
the meditation. There's a lot of QR codes in the
book to go listen to the meditation, receive your name,
and then learn. Well, now that I've received it, what
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can I do with it?
Speaker 1 (32:44):
I'm so curious. I don't suppose you have an advanced
copy you could give friends and family or something, right.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
I can send you an advanced copy.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Yeah, I mean, I mean if you you know, if
you've heard it.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Copy yet?
Speaker 1 (33:00):
But sure, sure, sure.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
So how do angels originally get their name? My experience
is they so when they're an angel, so they incarnate
there they spark from God, you know, and and they
get their name then, but they don't necessarily know it
until they're an archangel, because again, angels aren't a collective.
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So in my book I talk about only work with
the highest high high sizes, great arch angels, which are
way off the street. Right, And because working with angels,
you may or may not be working with a being
higher than you. So certainly your guardian angel is different.
And a lot of people depending on whom they are.
A guardian angel might be a lesser arch angel, you know,
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or it might be your own. It might be an angel.
But my experience is God, Goddess, Spirit, the universe, whatever
you want to call it, like breathes out, exhales them
into existence, and a name comes tumbling out with them,
and that name speaks of their higher purpose of what
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God is intending to learn through them. So that's why
the book it's Discover your Archangelic Name, Heritage, and Higher Purpose,
because your name is a big clue to your purpose,
not just for this lifetime, but for all of them.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
So you mentioned that the book also helps you to
understand how to use your angelic name. It does everyone?
Is it the same for everyone? Or does everyone have
a very specific thing that they can do with their
with that name? What do you what do you use
your name for once you once you discover it.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Yeah, it's a great question. I'm very you know, I
have a rare disease in my family. I don't know
if I told you this.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
I'm not sure that you did.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Everybody is an MD. Everybody, Oh yes, you did, everybody?
And I was pre mad? Right, And then you're like,
maybe utun So I am very pragmatic. I have a
scientific mind. I want tangible, measurable results, right so, and
(35:09):
in fact, that's why my doctorate is in spiritual science,
not in philosophy. Show me the metrics. So they can
use their name many ways, of course, the way that
speaks to them, but some of the ways to use
it are as mentioned to find their more about their purpose,
their overarching purpose. They can use it to connect so
(35:31):
expediently to the angelic And see, it's not about going
back there to your archangelic form. It's about bringing that
form here so that you can manifest more. It can
be more, Karen, like you know, you can have that
grace and that magic and that specialness, that divine remembrance
(35:52):
because the angels never forget their one with spirit. Right.
And then you take and you couple that with your
human co creatorship and your human sovereign qualities right free choice,
and what you have then is a God realized being
really choosing into God's will.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Huh. I need to know my name because he just
said something that really resonates with me. My one goal
with the past, I don't know how many months has been.
I need to be closer to spirit. I need to
get myself there. I'm very much stuck in the three
D in my humanness, and little by little I'm trying
to shed the ego and I'm trying to become closer
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to spirit. So if you think my name, you're saying,
my name will get me there. I need that right now.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Your name will help you. You know, it's a process, sure, right,
so your name will absolutely help you. Let's see, what's
an analogy. I mean, this is a silly analogy. But
it's like eating French fries. You want to add salt, right,
you need the salt for the French fries. No, yes,
the French fries. Brother, I like the little French fries
(37:07):
with my salt, right, you know, but the salt. You
don't need the salt, but it makes the whole experience
completely different. Gosh, so you don't need your angelic name
to remember spirit, but having your angelic name is a
big shortcut.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
I could see how that would be the case. I
could see how that could be the case. Okay, all right,
so I'm gonna look for that book in the mail soon.
And anyway that's not.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
It's going to be your email because we don't. I
don't have the physical copy yet.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
The big overarching question. You know so much about arch
angels and angels and our ancestry and the way things are,
and you communicate with you are the angel whisperer, right,
you talk to Michael? And how did all of this
come about? How did you manage to come to your
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knowledge and the connection that you have that most of
us don't.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
I think all of us do. We just are not
fully cognizant of it yet. Okay, So I think that
I'm one of those weird people who was born to
do this. And it started. My first or my earliest
remember memory of angels is when I was between three
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to four years old and I had a very traumatic
experience occur, the kind that could really send someone to drugs,
et cetera. And I communed with the archangels so that
what they did is they took me into them while
this is occurring, and I started speaking to them in
their own language. And what was that did? Is it
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help me move out of duality? Right? To not go
this level is frightening because I just went through a
very frightening experience and yet I was taken into the
body of archangels, the ethereal body. Right, So then fast forward.
Then I started telling people things that I couldn't know
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as a child, and I freaked out people in rural Indiana.
So I learned to stop. I learned to stop sharing
these things. But eventually and then I had a lot
of experiences that would open me up and I would
just keep it close to the breast until I left
home and then I could share about it more freely.
And then once I and there we go again. Once
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I did an angelic workshop and I heard all three
So you have actually have three angelic names start with one.
And once I heard I, I heard my three names
all at once, which is unusual, and that really opened
me up. I started hearing the angelic language, and then
it became apparent that this was what I was. This
(40:12):
is why I incarnated, to help bridge the angelic and
the human. How did you know it was real? Yeah?
That at four or at less adult later, I didn't.
I didn't love. I didn't. I add a lot of questions,
you know, And yet do you know it comes a
(40:34):
point where you just go, either I'm completely insane and
I was and I was very functional, or this is
real and you know what really sealed the deal. So
first of all, my spiritual teacher validated it. So that
was hugely helpful because I had a massive respect for him.
That helped. But what really helped was when I started
(40:55):
working with people, and I would put out these crazy ideas,
right like there's an angelic langue and I hear it,
and you have an angelic heritage and you haven't, and
you know, expecting them to like you know, the proverbial
like hook, expecting like dragging up yea. And yet I
saw the sea of nodding heads. And the more I
shared what was true for me, the more I received
(41:19):
that validation. This is working for me. Yeah, it's weird
because I can go toe toe to toe with anybody.
I'm weird, right, But but it was working for people.
They were remembering God, they were getting along with their
spouse better, they were more patient. They were suddenly, you know,
(41:41):
sitting down to meditate because they understood that Raphael as
the angel you call upon if you don't feel like
doing your spiritual practice. You know, they were getting again
I'm the spiritual scientist. They were getting results, and that
actually validated things for me. I went, okay, I'm not
entirely rule out me being crazy, but that means everybody is.
(42:02):
So everybody is, then none of us are right.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Yeah, So just to point out something you said, having
someone that really knows validating is a big first step, right, Karen.
So I'm just I'm just wondering, you know, make sure
I understood right, Someone who understands angels validating might have
(42:26):
the first step towards actually saying maybe not crazy. I'm
just putting it out there awsomely.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
That was clearly a loaded question.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Yeah. The funny thing is that it's not just you.
Is repeatedly people have repeatedly seen what you see. And
she's still oh, maybe you'll.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
See But Kurt, my dear, and I don't shoot the messenger.
But you're just you're hugely angelic. H And it's a
beautiful thing. Yes, I know we want to go oh shocks,
not me, but it's it's citty, you remember, people to
(43:09):
the divine. It's like, like I said, it's like a
feather floating through the air, so embrace it. It's not.
One of my favorite things that my spiritual teacher said
was ordinariness is a prayer condition to God. So we're
all special, which also means none of us are special.
Both true. But you have a magical quality about you,
(43:30):
and the more you embrace that and step into that,
the more of service you'll be.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Well, I do want to be more of service.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
So and that's the whole quality of the Angelic Kingdom.
By the way, service humans is free choice. There were
iterations before the Angelic right, the whole raisondetra. The whole
reason for being of the Angelic is for God. God
is to learn about service. Ours is for God to
learn about free choice, free will.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
If this mic wasn't on an arm, I would drop
it all right. Well, the show is called the skeptic
in position, So there are people right now who are
listening who are going, Oh, come on, angels for reals, Seriously,
if someone is skeptical but would like to try to
step forward in an effort to better understand how they're
(44:22):
connected to the Angelic realm, what kind of tips would
you recommend that they but the first steps they would
should take to start down that path.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
Again, I'm gonna let someone who knows a heck of
a lot more than me answers this is a rare
great archangel. So there's gazillions google plex angels, a couple
million to about ten million arch angels. There's about one
hundred and fifty great archangels. So these are high high beds.
Some of them we know Mikael, Gabriel, Raphael, but they're
(44:53):
probably a lot higher than we know, right, and we
can know them. It's like, you know how you guys
know each other very beautifully intimately obviously, right, you your
beautiful partners. And by the way, I just love hanging
out with you because I love watching your banter.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
Oh thank you, of course.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
But so we know people in different iterations, different not iterations,
but we know them to different degrees. So we might
know Meeka at this level starting out, and then we
might eventually get to know he's more pristine. For Okay,
So there's this is an archangel that I've never said.
I've only said the name once out loud, and that
(45:31):
was to my spiritual teacher when I'm like, I'm here
in this weird language, you know, in my nuts, and
and I said this name, and that's when he said,
that's glass Aelia. That's speaking in tongues. Thatt Si Angelic
language be very discerning when you share that out wow
with people because it completely takes them, transports them into
(45:52):
another well wow. And so what I'm hearing from this
being is if you have the question of if angels
are real, you might want to upgrade that question two
are you real? And how do you know you're real?
(46:12):
And you might want to question that because you know
there's something more real than this three dimensional reality, which
is the knowing of love itself. So if you wish
to know God's love in manifestation, you may want to
(46:36):
open yourself up to the experience of an angel, because
that's what angels are. They are God's love in manifestation.
They are God's first creation before humans. So you might
want to start with your guardian angel because they are
your ethereal best friend. So if you've ever had a
(46:56):
near miss from an accident or say, oh my God,
that bus could have hit me, etc. And you think
maybe that was my guardian angel, it probably was. What
else we explain that the universe is not random, So
perhaps in the silence of the night, suspend your disbelief,
(47:20):
just as you do in the movies or TV. Suspend
your disbelief and open to feel that comforting presence for
surely you will if you set aside the ego that
says I'm separate from God. That's the greatest delusion, and
that's the reality. I suggest you question the most.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
You said that so much better than I possibly could
have thought of, because that's exactly how I experienced it
is by allowing myself to just feel and question, and
that opened me up to something like this. So that's
a beautiful answer to that question. Thank you for that,
of course. So as if we didn't throw you enough
(48:06):
curveball questions before, we typically have some curveball questions that
we ask some of our guests that come on if
they're open to answering them. We can always edit these
out if you can't answer. So just if you're open
to them, I'm happy to throw them away if you're
cool with us. Right, Okay, Well these are kind of
kookie questions and.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
Stuff, so that's shocking coming from you.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
I know, I know. Anyway, here's the curveball questions. Let's
say Hollywood calls you're asked to be the angel consultant
on a new metaphysical action series. What is one angelic
truth you'd insist that they get right on screen?
Speaker 2 (48:46):
Angels are not outside of you. They are within you,
speaking from within you, directing you to the truth that
you are one with God, one with love, one with
that highest direction that scares you, and you are here
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to manifest the will of God.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
Okay, that was not the games where I was distracting,
but I was better than I think I could have
possibly hoped for. Okay, second question, If Karen really is
an archangel, and honestly we all know I know that
she is, what celestial job title do you think I'd
have in the angelic realm? And be honest because I
can take it.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
Okay, celestial job title? Woo, this is a long title.
This is more of a job description. Can I do
a job description?
Speaker 1 (49:39):
And absolutely yep?
Speaker 2 (49:43):
Preveyor or bringer of the feeling you get when you
look at the tallest mountains and you feel the breeze
upon your cheek and you know that God is real. Oh.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
I don't know if I deserve that title, but.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
All right, can I explain that a little? Yes?
Speaker 1 (50:00):
Please please?
Speaker 2 (50:01):
When I look at you. So, yeah, I do angels,
but I also do talk to connect with spirits of nature,
which to me is another heritage we have very related
to the angelic. So there are davas or spirits of mountains,
and when I look at your consciousness, I see that
(50:22):
you're a part of you has a connection to the
spirit of a mountain. And so what does that mean.
It means that you have this particular power with you
that is not intimidating to people, but rather inspiring. So
they tend to go with your crazy.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
Ideas and they are crazy.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
Yeah, yeah, they go with your crazy ideas because you
inspire confidence in people, right, because you have this rock
solid and I mean this in a very positive way,
rock solid quality about you that is not shakable and
that makes people feel relaxed and secure.
Speaker 1 (51:02):
Wow, I love that. Thank you all right, last question.
You're granted one angelic superpower to give every listener right now.
Which do you choose? And why?
Speaker 2 (51:17):
You are a messenger of God. So angel means messenger.
So if I could grant every well, wouldn't be me
granted it because to me, they already have it. But
I would grant them the trust in their attunement. And
I would say, take that divine pause before you run
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willy nilly into your day or into that next action,
and tune in and speak out loud the messages that
you hear to guide you in your day, so to
know that they are all messengers of God.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
Okay, thank you for playing along. Those are fun for me, just.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
A little lazy to answer than like what Satan and Lucifer.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
You seem to You answered those perfectly, so I didn't
see any any challenges there. If someone obviously wanted to
pre order your book or get in touch with you
to work with you in some way, what's the best
way for someone to reach out, Well, thank.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
You for asking. So my book is is just a
few days ago when on pre sale it is the
The physical copy won't come for about six months. But
if they go if they order the book on they
can go to Amazon, Barnes and Noble book Familia wherever
and order the book. Then I'm going to be starting
a launch club, so they'll get a course. I'll start
(52:47):
sending excerpts from the book, so basically I'll send them
the entire book by the time the book comes out,
but I'll be in fite size, so theyk go to
my website at Alicia Dawes dot com Forward Slash Book.
So my Alicia Das dot com Forward Slash Book and
order the book from there. Then I'll start sending bonuses, excerpts,
(53:07):
you know, whole chapters. Oh the outtakes, those are those are?
Those are fun?
Speaker 1 (53:12):
There are angelic outtakes, ajelicouting. I must see those. Yes,
I'm the book awesome. Well, Doc Alicia, doctor Dawson, thank
you so much for coming on the show. It's always
so much fun to spend time with you. And as always,
we were left with so many other questions, but we
can look forward to having you on. Maybe when when
(53:33):
the book comes out, we'll have you back on and I.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
Would love that. I would love that. You guys are
so much fun and you ask really you know, you
ask questions that most people don't have the courage to ask,
and I so appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (53:46):
I hope that doesn't mean that we are offending you,
because it's you know, that's a that's a very brave
question there, Will.
Speaker 2 (53:56):
Lowly, I love it.
Speaker 1 (53:57):
All right, Well good, I'm we never want to piss
anybody off, so yeah, all right, Well, it's been a
real pleasure. Thank you so much for coming on the
show again. We look forward to seeing you again soon.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
Absolutely, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (54:11):
Okay, well, that does it for this episode of the
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