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October 8, 2025 57 mins
In this episode, discover how a simple channeled process from Amy Jo Ellis is helping thousands heal relationships, resolve conflicts, and find peace at the soul level.

What if you could resolve years of family conflict with just one sentence? In this episode of The Skeptic Metaphysicians, Will and Karen sit down with Amy Jo Ellis, the singer-songwriter turned spiritual medium who channeled a revolutionary healing process called The Court of Atonement.

Born from a heartfelt plea to reunite her husband with his estranged siblings, Amy Jo received guidance from her spirit team that led to the creation of a simple but powerful one-paragraph process. To her surprise, it worked, and within weeks, long-lost family members were reconnecting. Since then, thousands worldwide have used the Court of Atonement to resolve conflicts, heal old wounds, and transform their lives at the soul level.
 
From viral eBooks to endorsements by renowned healers like Raymon Grace, Amy Jo’s channeled modality has spread across the globe, proving that healing doesn’t always require years of therapy...sometimes it just takes aligning with your higher self. 

In This Episode, You’ll Discover:
  • The origin story of the Court of Atonement and how Amy Jo first channeled it
  • Why this process works at the soul level, beyond time and space
  • Step-by-step guidance to try it for yourself in just a few minutes
  • Incredible real-life stories of healing, reconciliation, and transformation
  • How to use the Court of Atonement for family drama, workplace conflicts, and even global challenges
  • Why Amy Jo believes healthy skepticism is essential in channeling and spirituality
  • The surprising role of names and identity in spiritual healing
About Amy Jo Ellis
Amy Jo Ellis began her spiritual journey as a singer-songwriter, performing at events around the world and even moving the Dalai Lama to tears with her music. In 2013, her path shifted dramatically when she channeled the Court of Atonement, a process that helps souls resolve conflicts and restore peace.

What started as a $5 eBook quickly went viral, translated into multiple languages, and embraced by healers and spiritual seekers globally. Today, Amy Jo teaches classes, leads a thriving online community, and continues to share this transformative process with love, humor, and grounded wisdom.
 
Learn more at: courtofatonement.com 

Key Topics Covered
  • Spiritual Awakening & Soul-Level Healing
  • Conflict Resolution Beyond Time & Space
  • Family Healing & Generational Trauma
  • Mysticism & Channeled Wisdom
  • Energy Healing and Consciousness Expansion
  • The Power of Names in Spiritual Alignment
🔮 Why You Should Listen
If you’ve ever struggled with unresolved conflict, strained relationships, or wounds from the past, this episode offers a hopeful, practical, and spiritual solution. Whether you’re a skeptic or a seeker, Amy Jo’s story and teachings will expand your understanding of what’s possible when we let our souls do the talking.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Karen. Yes, I think I fondly found the ultimate courtroom drama.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Oh god, I.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Mean, forget Judge Judy, forget Judge Wabner. Although I think
I might have just dated myself in a big way
right there.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Wow, you're like pulling that one out of the history.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Yeah, I know, I think though. Actually you know how
every family has a drama where the sibling who hasn't
called in for years, the uncle who still thinks karaoke
night is of war crime, the cousin who owes you
fifty bucks from nineteen ninety eight. No, Well, our guest
today found the way to fix all of it will

(00:42):
with one sentence. Basically, it's like Judge Judy meets cosmic
soul therapy, except nobody gets yelled at, and somehow everybody
ends up hugging.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
I knew you would. Now you have always been my peacemaker, Karen.
But let's be honest, if you could have settled my
side of the family feud with one paragraph, you'd have
been canonized by Now, our guest channeled this modality that's
reuniting families, healing old wounds, and proving that sometimes the
best courtroom is the one where your higher self bangs

(01:16):
the gabbl So get ready to Karen, because for once,
family drama might actually come with a happy ending. Here
on the Skeptic Metavzation. Yeah, my name is Will and
I'm Karen, and unlike moulderin Scully.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Both want to believe.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
So we've embarked in a journey of discovery.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and
metaphysical world.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even
joined a coven of.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Witches and wait, you joined a coven yep.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
All on the interest of finding something, anything, that will
prove that there's something beyond this physical.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Three dimensional world we all live in.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
This is the skeptics. Okay, I'm just gonna say it.
I've officially become that guy who wears an energy pendant
around his deck. No no, no, no, no, wait, before you

(02:11):
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And I started wearing it because I was feeling totally
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You know what, I felt it like I felt it.

(02:31):
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(02:54):
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(03:17):
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So if lfe's been zapping you lately, maybe it's time
to zap back with q Link. Hey there, I'm Will,
I'm Karen. Welcome back to the Skeptic Metaphysicians, the podcast
that proves that you don't need to gabble a jury
or even a judge to settle your disputes. You just

(03:38):
need a mystical courtroom where your soul does all the talking.
Today's guest began her career as a singer songwriter, touching
hearts at spiritual events around the world, even moving the
Dali Lama to tears with her song remember Who You Are,
Oh My God Now. In twenty thirteen, though, her life
took an extraordinary turn when she channeled a healing process

(04:00):
now known worldwide, yes, worldwide, as the Court of Atonement.
What began as a way to heal her own family's
estrangements quickly went viral, with thousands embracing this powerful tool
to resolve conflicts, release old wounds, and reunite with loved ones.
Her forty eight page ebook has been translated into multiple languages,

(04:23):
her teachings have been endorsed by renowned healers around the world,
and her own online community continues to grow globally. Please
welcome to the show, Amy, Joe Ellis, Amy, how you
doing today?

Speaker 2 (04:35):
I'm doing fantastic? And what an intro.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
We're hearing that a lot lately, and I don't know
if it's a good thing or a bad thing. It
could be like, oh my god, what an intro? All right? Amy? Joe,
we're excited to have you on the show, Like we
told you the beginning of the interview, even before it start,
before we start recording, Karen had no idea what we're
talking about. So the Court of Atonement is brand new

(05:02):
for her, and so let's just set the bar so
that she can understand what we're talking about today, so
she can join the conversation. What exactly, in your estimation
is the court of atonement?

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Okay, the court of Atonement, for the best I can
figure it out, is one soul talking to the other
soul and coming to a happy conclusion as to what
and why it happened. Like I'm just gonna say, one
of the things I always see here is like, let's

(05:34):
just say we're watching a movie and we've got a
woman who's sitting at the kitchen table and she's got
the candles lit and dinner's ready and the wine is poured.
She's sitting there. Next scene, the candles have burnt down.
He hasn't shown up, food's onne eating. Scene three is
she's on the phone saying, I don't know what happened.
I'm so worried about him. Scene four, she's going, well,

(05:55):
I know that SOB is cheating on Bee and she's
drawn her own conclue and she's angry, and when the
man walks in the door, she says, where were you now?
It's not a polite voice, the tone of voice, right
it's a very accusatoid. Right now, whether the anger is
going to leave or the anger is going to stay
depends on his answer. If he says, well, I went

(06:19):
out with drinking with the boys and forgot. It's not leaving,
is it. But if he says to her there was
a really horrible accident and she's like, are you okay?
How many seconds did it take for the anger to
leave when we understood what happened and accepted that reason.

(06:40):
That's the thing. So what happens here with when we
ask the court of atonement to resolve the conflict at
the point of origin is it goes back and the
souls say, hey, I went out drinking with the boys,
and she's like, yeah, you're done already, and he says
Then the soul says yeah, But what you don't know

(07:01):
is I my boss tried to fire me and I
had to talk my way out of that, and I
was really upset. And my friend said hey, don't take
that home to your wife. Let's you know, let's go out,
have a drink, cool down, and then go home. And
then I forgot The wife goes, oh my gosh, you

(07:21):
had a bad day. And at the soul level, that
understanding gets filt in our nervous system and a lot
of the problems just dissolve quite magically.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Okay, so let me make sure I understand this. Karen
and I get no row, not that we ever have,
but just in this pretend we get no row, and
all of a sudden we are at ons with each
other and we can't even be in the same room together.
The court of atonement. What you're saying is brings her
higher self and my higher self together in a room

(07:56):
to knock each other around, to say, this is what happened.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Put on take it out.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
So then they settle it out there in the ether,
and then we down here are like, oh, oh, I
love you now like that.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
It's not it's I wish it was exactly.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
I knew it. I knew it. I knew it, I
knew it.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Okay, Where it really where it gets caught up and
it doesn't work as well is when the person is
not willing to let it go. Like, so we're going
to use I'm mad, and I'm mean to use the
court of atonement. But inside my heart, inside my spirit,
not out here in the soul. I'm like, he's gonna apologize. Now,
that's it. I'm not coming back unless so we kind

(08:38):
of lock it in our in our hearts by saying
that's it. I'm not going to let this go unless
this happens. And so we make what I call reasons
for completion. We have that he has to apologize, he
has to admit that he was wrong, he has to.
We have these reasons that we won't allow it to drop.

(08:59):
But where it works really extraordinarily well on old wounding,
where we've kind of given up on that, and where
like I said, I see it work. All of the
people who are following me, they know it works sometimes
excellently and sometimes not so excellent. And when it's not
so excellent, we have to look in ourselves here for

(09:21):
a minute, because their soul is ready to you know,
maybe at the at the at the spirit, I'm going
to say, there's two different things going on. We've got
a spirit, which is that consciousness of who we are,
and then we've got the soul, which kind of knows everything.
So the conscious level is really ready to let it. Really,
I'm like you, I'm tongue tied. What's going on?

Speaker 1 (09:43):
What do you mean?

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Like me, really, this is my first I am really
ready to let really wet man, that's really really weird.
I'm ready to let this go. So I'm willing and
ready to let this go. And so once the soul is,
the soul and the spirit are, then we get the
magical thing. But yes, it does work that well. When

(10:06):
she doesn't know and you're ready to let it go,
she'll just we get like an epiphany of like have
you ever been walking along and all of a sudden, Oh,
I know why that person's upset. I get it.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Okay, you just answered my next question. So it's going
to be within does the do our souls coming like
whisper in our ear and say this is why he
didn't show up or something? Or how do we how
do we know to let it go?

Speaker 2 (10:29):
They it just doesn't be. It's just not important anymore.
And yeah, the soul just kind of it relaxes, like
I think that the soul and the spirit get to
communicate here and they say, Okay, yeah, that's not that's
not important. We don't. A lot of people always ask, hey,
do we need permission to use this for another person?
And so if your brother and sister in law are fighting, no,

(10:52):
you don't need their permission. You can just throw them
in a court of a toonement and see if it works.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
I know who we should use this with. I'll tell
you off, Mike.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Oh, I guess I.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Guess you want to broadcast. Oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Oh I love that, so will so.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
If so, let me get this straight. If in theory
or I guess not theory, because you know this to
be true, we can. It's like kind of like putting
the good way may on someone. Like we could say,
these two.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Oh, blessing, think of it that way.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Do you put them into the court of atonement?

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Well, you have to use your name. Our names are
more important than we think.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
And my name is not great these days. Oh my goodness,
I might get kicked out of the court of atonement. No,
well I Karen ca Oh Karen, I'm sorry, No, it's awful. Anyways,
Well you can we can try it this way. How
about how about this?

Speaker 2 (11:49):
I want you to repeat after me and so we
use our first, middle, and last names when we use
the court of atonement, and we use that to set
it up. So right now I want you to say,
just say your name Karen, Say Karen, Karen, and notice
if your energy goes down or if your energy goes up.
And so let's try this. Say I'm to think about puppies. Okay,

(12:10):
think about puppies, and notice how that is the lass.
Just relax one, two, three, Karen. Does your energy sink down?

Speaker 3 (12:18):
It sinks down?

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Right, So so just on a lark here, say I
state your name. So I Amy Josie for Richard Zealas.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
So I I Karen Elaine Endsley.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
I'm glad you didn't say I state my name.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
A lot of people do. It's okay, though, So I
state our names.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
I Karen Elaine Ensley.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Place my name Karen into a full court of atonement.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
I is my name, Karen into a full court of atonement.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
I asked for it to be purified and sanctified.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
I asked for it to be purified and sanctified.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
I asked to bring in humanity.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
I asked to bring in humanity, and I asked to.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Resolve the destruction of my name.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
And I asked the resolve the destruction of my name.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
I asked for divine intervention.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
I asked for divine intervention.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
To purify and sanctify the name Karen.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
To purify and sanctify the name Karen.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah, now, just to kind of take a deep breath
and allow that to settle it in for a second. Okay, Okay,
So now I want you to think about puppies. Okay,
all right, I'm right to go three two one, Karen,
it's about the same. Oh, it's the same. Still down now,
I mean puppies, the same as puppies stayed up. Okay. Yeah,

(13:37):
so you've at least healed yourself with your problem with
the name Karen. And we tried to do a little
bit for the other Karens of the world, and so
any other Karen's listening back at a do that.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Right?

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Right?

Speaker 3 (13:51):
Yeah, well, thank you.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
But my guide say, if you can think that the
court of a tolment might work, just try it. There's
no harm.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Sure. Two questions. One, what of your name? The name
you go by isn't really the name that you were
given at birth.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
I there's a little process that I do to try
to help people reconnect. I just have so is your
name you got two sets of names for you?

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Or yeah, my name is I go by will but
my name is actually Guillermo, which is William in Spanish.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Got youa hi, Germa, got a lot of great friends
with that, niggah.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
The must be good people.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
They are good people, some of my favorites. So so
if you so, what I have people say is say
I and state your name as it is on your
birth certificate. Okay, I and and so you would say
your name. So come on play with me. Now I
state your name.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Sorry, I state your name. No, I'm sorry I had
to do that. Now, I Guillermo Alberto Calas.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Place myself into a full court of atonement.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Place myself into a full court of atonement.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
I bring in my name, Will.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Rodriguez, I bring in my name.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Will Rodriguez, ask to analyze our timelines. See it again,
I asked to analyze our timeline.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
I ask to analyze our timelines.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Resolve any and all conflicts with my name.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Resolve any and all conflicts with my name.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
I asked to bring the power of my birth name.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
I ask to bring the power of my.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Birth name to the name. I choose to use to
the name.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
I choose to use.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Right, and so now you just would use wiill okay, right, awesome,
and so that's what It's pretty simple. But you try
to get that alignment with the name so that the
birth certificate. The way I found out how powerful the
name is is I was I was at a psychic
fair and it was the first one I'd ever done.
I was so nervous, and the first lady coming up

(15:53):
to me, I said, how can I help you? By
the way, it's nine o'clock in the morning. I have
flown home from California the night before to Washington State.
I'm exhausted, and I've set up a booth since seven thirty.
So it's nine o'clock in the morning. How can I
help you? She says, my daughter died yesterday. I'd like
to reach her.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Oh I just go whoa not like which crystals are
for what?

Speaker 2 (16:18):
I was like, Oh my goodness. And I said, do
you know a lot of psychics will tell you that
they can't reach them for two or three days. And
I said, fortunately for you, I'm not one of those.
I've talked to a chair before. If I can talk
to a chair, I can talk, certainly, talk to the
soul of your daughter. And I'm like, but I'm talking
a soul level, not the conscious level. So it's bigger,

(16:40):
more expanded. I said, I don't know how what this
is going to look like, but we're going to do it.
And so I went in. I got her name was Sarah,
and I said, I asked to speak to Sarah. And
I'm like, I asked to speak to and I can't
even say the name Sarah. And I'm like, is I
said something's wrong with her name. I can't say her name.

(17:02):
And that's my clue that I'm doing something wrong. As
I start to look like an idiot, I start to
stumbling and book, you know, I can't say willing and
ready me too, right, I start when Spirit's trying to
come through and tell me I'm wrong. I can't keep speaking,
and so I'm like, I'm wrong. There's what's going on
with her name?

Speaker 3 (17:21):
Is her name?

Speaker 2 (17:22):
You know? Is Sarah her is that you know? I said,
is that her name? Or is that a nickname? And
they're like, no, that's her name, and I'm like, I said,
I can't make it work. And I said, and she's
getting angry with me. The mother's like, that's her name,
and I went, that's the name on her birth certificate
and she went, uh, no, she's adopted. And so I

(17:44):
took the name from the birth certificate and immediately I
was hearing Anti Pam, Anti Pam. And I said, I'm
hearing Anti Pam. And she goes, my sister Pama lives here.
She's just across the room at another booth. I said, well,
you better go get her because she wants her to
hear this.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yeah, So it was quite It was really remarkable and
a good meeting for me to start the start the
world off. Somebody put me up to it, and if
I had really failed, I probably wouldn't be sitting in
front of you today.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Well, I'm glad that they came through the way it
did because we're thrilled to have you here. So then
the second question goes a long time along the same
lines of the name. But if it's if we're bringing
other people into it, we just we just bring them
by bringing in their names into it.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, and as much as we know of it, And
sometimes I have to say, like the person I know
as bringing in the person I know as this person.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
So the person I know as meathead.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
The person who stole my car.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Hi, gotcha, gotcha?

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Right? So yeah, I did that this morning. I had
a memory of having my car stolen. Oh, and I
think that that was for your show. Actually that I
really heard that. Yeah, because you are you are called
the skeptic metaphysicians. And this was before I believed in
any of this stuff. And I I was driving for
an attorney company and you pick up the go to

(19:13):
different attorney office after attorney office, and I bring them
into a location and I pick up all their files
and then they file them in court and then I
take them back. So I'm driving this route and when
I got the route, this man told me he goes.
I pull up next to the door on this one
and it's under a big overhang, and he goes, and
I just leave the car running. I go inside, I

(19:34):
get I get the files which were on that desk
right there in sight of the door, pick them up
and take them out to the car. And so I'd
been doing it for six months like that, leaving the
car on leaving the car run told me. He told
me to. And I was young and nai so there's
good news and badness here. The car was not stolen,

(19:57):
oh at that time. So I went in, got the box,
came back out, and when I was standing in front
of the when I was going to put the car,
I thought, you know, this car could be stolen. This
is really a bad idea. And if this car was stolen,
it's brand new. I don't even know the license plate.

(20:17):
And so I went around the back of the car
and I memorized the license plate number, and I on
the rest of the drive back, I kept running through
the license plate number. I parked in front of my
door of my office, and I turned the car off,
took the key, took the box, closed the car, went inside,

(20:38):
and I had to go back a hallway, you know,
twenty feet down a hall went into the room, put
the box down, clocked out, walked out.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Car gone.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
So something told you to memorize that license plate because
you're about to go into a world of hurt otherwise exactly. Wow.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
And I didn't know what I knew now, which would
be I'd say, I would say, okay, God, I forbid
this car to be stolen. No, no, no, and I
would do something to change it. But yeah, So, like
I said, I had that memory, this morning, and I
put myself in a court of a tunel with the
who stole my car.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
That's a weird name, I know, but I okay, So
so back to the the other people that because I
specifically there's two people that I really think need to
get into the court of atonement. It has to do
with your family, my family.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
Hmmm, that's not happening, you know, Well that's true.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Maybe, well you know what the good news is, will
you don't have to have Karen's provision.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
I don't think it would be fantastic.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Yes, So if that's the case, if I want to
do it, that's actually the question, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
You can help people with that blessing and it may
or may not work because they're in the people who
are I mean, we have we have life lessons that
we might be going through, and so it doesn't it
may not clear up because the soul always has the
right to say this is going along just perfectly the
way it is. We're not we're not interfering, understand Okay, yeah,

(22:16):
but if that's why I was saying, the old things
usually go away pretty easy, because I mean not unless
you're like still that guy has to do it, right.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
But that's the reason why I ask, because we hear
all the time that you really can't do really shouldn't
do something against someone's will. But in the court of atonement,
if they're not ready to do it, then they're just
not going to do it.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
They just don't. Okay, you're not messing with their energy fields. Okay,
you know what I mean, you're not a lot of
the stuff that we're not supposed to do is is
the things where we're impressing our will upon them. This
is we just put them in a court of atonement,
asked to resolve the conflicts between them, and they accept
or they don't. It's not real, it's not real invasive,
so to speak. Okay, So so yeah, with Karen, she

(23:02):
could if you, guys, if we'll just do this and
the listeners can kind of follow along and do it too.
And what I want you to do is I want
you to kind of close your eyes and see these
people for you too, will You're you're the one suggesting.
So if you close your eyes and you.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
See these people, do you have to say their name
out loud?

Speaker 2 (23:20):
I don't want known, No, not at all. I promise. Okay,
So see these people in your mind and notice if
they look happy or not happy, or how they look.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Are they in the same room together? Yeah, then they
are not happy then though.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
Okay, okay, so maybe I don't know who you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Okay, so you can tell her later. Yeah, okay, this
isn't there any of her business.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
It's not that they're unhappy. One of them is very happy,
the other one is just like.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Right, okay, So you can just do this in your mind.
I'll just go kind of slowly and you can repeat
this in your mind. So I state your name, and
we'll say, place Karen's family into a full court of atone.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
I need to go backause, I thought you were talking
about placing their names in there. Let me okay, I okay,
I mind.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yep. Place and the people were thinking about into a
full court of a tone of atonement. I asked to
analyze their timelines and resolve any and all conflicts between
them at their points of origin. I ask for amenable

(24:39):
dissolution of this energy, and I'll just come out of that,
take a deep breath, and now, if you can imagine
them in that one room, how do they look?

Speaker 1 (24:56):
I mean, in my mind's eyes see them hugging.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Oh set right, that's a change.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
It is a change now. I mean, I don't know
if it's my wishful thinking or it's reality, but I
guess time will tell.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
So, right. But the thing is is that we can't
get what we can't see, really, and so I use
the court of a toulment for a lot of things
for people to help them change their beliefs about something.
I had a gentleman who was who was bedridden, and
he'd been bedridden for like nine years. Oh God, and
he started coming to me and he us get another
help from other places, and it was helping. He was

(25:30):
starting to get some relief. But he was still in
bed when I saw him, and I said, I want
you in your mind to imagine getting up. And he
used to be a runner. I said, imagine getting up,
sitting up, tying your shoes, and going over to the door,
opening the door and going for a run. He's like,
I can't even pull the blankets back.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Oh, boys, like I.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Can't even sit up. And we traced this back. I'm like,
what was going on nine years ago? He'd pretty much
been left at the altar and had a bad breakup,
and so I started working between him and that point
of origin back there between that and like week two
he comes in and the first time he was laying

(26:11):
completely flat, and the second time he's sitting up right
in bed. The third week he comes in, he's on
the couch, and then within six weeks he's getting a job,
he's up walking, he's back and back in five. Well, right,
And so I was going to say, and that's not
That's one example that a lot of our a lot

(26:33):
of people watched because we did it in my group
sessions where there's one hundred people all getting to watch
each other. So we all saw this wow compression of
him improving.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
That's amazing. Yeah, So now you know, Karen, if ever
there's a point where like, I just don't feel like
that anymore? Will You just used the court of a tonement,
didn't you? Now you know? Oh no, my goodness, very cool.
So you've channeled this whole healing modality, and then you

(27:06):
put it into a little flyer right yep, on the
e book that you put out there, not thinking anything
was going to come of it, and all of a
sudden it flip and blew up right.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
It blew up. Yes, so I blew up.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
How walk us through that?

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Okay? So I started out, well, we'll just say where
it came from real quick. Was there was my son
got a bunch of birthday calls from all the family
on my side. And my husband said, people on my
side of the family, we don't even hear from it.
And then they don't call on the kids birthdays and things.
He's like, that's really sad. I said, how. I asked

(27:44):
my GUIDs how do I resolve this? And they said,
put their souls in a court of atonement. And I went,
what that's weird sounding. We're skeptic metaphysician.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
I'm like.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Doing that. And so then I looked it up and
they're like, no, you're looking too hard. It's at one
minut look at the word atonement. At one minute, you're
just a court is a place that you resolve conflicts,
and at one mint is bringing it back to wholeness, right,
And so I, okay, I'll do that. So I did
this for him. I wrote it all out. I had
it to him, said, hey, tried to help your family,
and he was like, thanks, honey. So we I don't

(28:23):
think too much more about it. But on my husband's birthday,
about six weeks later, all five of his siblings called.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
And no way, wow, out of the blue, out of
the place problem or anything.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
No, wow, nothing, And so he's like, you don't think
that weird you did for you, like.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Amy, Joe, thank you for censuring yourself when I very
few people do it.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
My guides do not censor themselves. And I'm aware, so
anyway that, yeah, the guides cuss man, Yeah, at least
mind you. So anyway that I I didn't pay any
more attention to it. And then I met my mom's house.
There's a big argument in the other room. It's three
o'clock in the morning. I very selfishly want to go

(29:09):
back to sleep. I asked my guides what can I
do to solve this? And again I'm told put their
souls in a court of atonement, asked analyzer timelines. Was
all the conflicts between them? I'm like that again, And
so I did it. And I always kind of stenography.
I'm typing as I'm channeling my guides. And so my
mom comes up to me the next day and she's like, maybe, Joe,

(29:32):
what did you do? Everybody's getting along so and I'm like,
oh my gosh, I put them in a court of atonement.
And she's like, write that down. I want to see that.
I want to look at that. And I said, oh,
I already did, and I just sent it to her,
you know, in a tux some my heir. And so
later on she comes up to me and she says,
do you think this will work for people who have passed?

(29:53):
And my hair stood up with this big rush of yes,
it will, and it'll stop like family patterns from repeating
if you go after the family that's had those big problems.
And so she was thinking specifically of her mother and
her grandmother that did not get along, and so she

(30:14):
started using the court of atonement for anybody she could
think of that wasn't And she's like, oh my gosh.
As I lay down to go to bed at night,
I'm just like, I'm throwing all these people into a court.
Told it goes. I wake up in the middle of
the night and I'm doing it, and she goes and
I wake up refreshed. It's weird because she goes, I
wake up really refreshed. And so I told her, I said, man,

(30:35):
the same thing, I'm doing the same thing. Well, one
night there's this smoke. We smell cigarette smoke, and my
husband's like, where's that cigarette smoke coming from. We live
in the middle of the woods, like five miles from anybody.
We're like, who is what is that? He goes outside,
he walks around, he goes it's stronger in the house
than it is out. I don't know what this is.

(30:55):
So we go to bed that night. I wake up
three o'clock in the morning, bedroom full of cigarette smoke.
And I remember in that moment a friend of mine
who's a psychic, saying, oh, I smell tobacco. I wonder
what spirits trying to get my attention. So I hear
her in my mind say that, and I went somebody
trying to get my attention, and I get yes, this

(31:15):
big rush of energy of yes, and who is it?
And I saw a photograph of my grandfather that sits
on my parents' piano. I see in my mind the
piano in the photograph, trying to demystify this because it's
just a memory. I see that and I said, oh,
Grandpa Richard's I haven't heard from you since I was eleven.
And I said, is there something I can do? For you.

(31:36):
And then in my thoughts, a hear, please apologize. Tell
your father I apologize that things were not better between
us when he was a little boy. Ask him to
pardon me for that, and he said, tell your mother
thank you very much for the prayers. And so I'm like,

(31:56):
I can't tell my dad. She doesn't believe a word
of this stuff. I can't tell my dad. So I
do the next next thing, which is the next morning.
I call my mom. Tell my mom, and she's like, oh,
I put your father and his father in a court
of a tomt yesterday. My hair stood up. I'm just like,

(32:17):
oh my oh. I had three thoughts at once. One
I wasn't insane, my grandfather was in my room. Two
that this thing works, and three I can teach it
to other people and they can use it.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
So you just made tears come to my eyes because
all of a sudden, all I can think of is
my relationship with my dad. Yeah, and so I'm going
to put the two of us in that court and
see what happened to see vic reuse alve it.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
But you're willing to do it. Live, No, be a coward.
It's all right.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Oh dang calling me out. We need to take a
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Speaker 2 (34:32):
Are you willing to do it? Live? No, be a coward,
It's all right.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Oh dang calling me out. Okay, let's do it right now.
I can't not do it, So let's do.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
It all right, all right, So close your eyes and
see your dad's face and notice how you feel doing that.
M hm, and how does he look? And you can
just say grumpy small. Okay. So now I state your
name and you can just do it in your head.
Place myself and say your name again, because you're saying

(35:04):
who you are into a full court of atonement with
my father and say his name. I asked to analyze
our timelines and resolve any and all conflicts between us
at their points of origin. I ask for amenable dissolution

(35:29):
of this energy. Let's go a little deeper. I ask
to resolve any and all reasons we're still upset with
each other. Now, just take a deep breath and blow out, Yeah,

(35:51):
nothing right that nothing? Are you being facetious just saying no,
I'm just saying it's okay. Now, if you think about
your dad, what's your expression look like?

Speaker 1 (36:04):
So I'll I'll tell you that, No, he's not the same.
I'll tell you this. As you were finalizing that last
statement and that was repeating it back, I dropped so
deeply into a body what you call when you meditate,
your body, when you're med saying, you drop into the
void and your hope body just go to move on
like it. Totally. I totally dropped into that. And that's

(36:26):
something that I've I've had the conflict. My dad doesn't
give he's not angry with me. I'm the one who's
been carrying around a beef with him. And I know
it feels a little bit lighter. So we'll see hopefully, hopefully.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Well hopefully, and like I said, it's it's gonna be on.
That's why I say, asked to resolve. So another thing
we could say, I mean the court of a tooment's
still running here. We could say I asked to resolve
the reasons I want to remain angry with him. I
asked to resolve any and all reasons I'm still angry

(37:01):
with him, and I'm still carrying it around.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Okay, this is pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Yeah, it's amazing that it And like I said, people
are sometimes they're just like, that was so little, that
was so nothing, nothing could have happened. But then when
you close your eyes and you look back, the image
has changed. You're like, wait a minute, the image changed.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
Yeah, and is it as far as like the effect
that this could potentially have on his dad, is that
something you should expect to be kind of an instant
or will it take a day or two?

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Oh? I never look. I just say I don't even expect.
I mean, I look and say, if it's not it,
then how can I change my approach? Maybe put my
dad in a court of atonement with his dad because
maybe this is coming down line. Maybe that didn't maybe
it didn't shift because of this, And so I just

(37:52):
kind of look at it more. I tell people in
the booklets to like just forget about it, forget that
you've done it, and then look back in six months
and go, did it change or not because we can't
expect it to change immediately. I've on a very rare
occasion people will get in an argument and what needed
to be said got said there, Like it didn't work

(38:17):
because we had a big blowout.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
And then how.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
You care, Well, if you're saying that energy then works
because it worked the opposite.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Right. So we've been talking about how this being you
put two people in a ring and letting it duke
it out. But is this something that can be done
for yourself, Like if like, if I take one particular
person and say I'm putting him in the court of
atonement to try to figure out why he's such a.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Oh, I like it. It's a strange renunciation, but yeah, yeah,
that's a really great way of putting it. I don't
think I've done that, but let me let me, let
me check in for a secon. Let's try it. I
mean that it's definitely worth a try. I'll look at

(39:10):
that person and usually come at them with I know
they had a problem with so and so and they
and then I and I go that route. But yeah,
there's no reason not to go. I do have a
what I call a speed call, which is I asked
for I asked, you know, for soul recognition, and soul
recognition is just asking for their soul to recognize what

(39:32):
it wants to maybe go after and clear up. Because
my guides have a term they call denied aspects, and
a denied aspect might be for me. Years ago, there
was an accident and somebody died and I had no
memory of it. It's like, no memory of it at all.

(39:55):
And that, yeah, nothing, I didn't have any was repressed. Yeah,
and it was repressed. I was living a happy, kind
of normal life and not realizing why certain movies would
affect me really badly. And then because I was like
eleven when it happened, and so then we didn't talk

(40:17):
about it, and then it just got repressed. And so
that repressed memory was brought forward. And then once I
what happened was the girl that died came through and
then I remembered. I was like, oh, yeah, I know
exactly who she is. She's the person who does about
and oh that's right. And then I had to deal

(40:40):
with all the emotions of remembering this traumatic event, right,
And so I know that that's the background of why
people are the way they are, and that is a
repressed memory, and it's against the rules for us to
ask them to deal with their repressed memories. And so
I created a term knowledgy called soul recognition. I asked

(41:02):
this for soul recognition for this person, meaning can you
take a look at this person's life and see what
they're not dealing with? It might hope, and then the
soul can choose if it wants to or not. Right,
that's the angle I've taken. But I like his approach.
So we can all think of somebody and just say,

(41:23):
I state our names, place that person in a court
of atonement. I have a terminology called for cleaning up
their act.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Yeah, that's exactly it. Yeah, make up their act.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Right.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
That's a very nice way you're saying.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
And soul recognition, yeah okay, And so yeah that but yeah,
I was going to say, for why they are the
way they are that I don't like, all right.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
I mean it just it would be for his own
good and everyone else is good. So okay, well we'll
work on that. But I'm really curious that. So how
did go go back to that ebook that you that
you put out there all of a sudden you found
it going worldwide? How that thing last week.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
It happened in stages.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
The first one was I was I had put it
out and like in two months, fourteen books had sold
in two I was a specific night that I guides.
I went, okay, hey, look, if you're wanting me to
step into this role of being a medium and doing

(42:28):
this stuff, then you're gonna have I'm putting the big
bridges on you. Basically, go make this work. And the
next morning I got up and my husband had called
and said we were seventy dollars overdrawn in the bank,
and I went onto my I went onto my platforms
where I sold albums, you know, CDs and things as

(42:49):
a singer, and then the booklet and I had transferred
money into the bank and he called back. He's like,
it didn't it didn't work, it didn't go through. Well,
there'd been seventy dollars in the account for the booklet sales.
And I went back in and there was still seventy
dollars in it, and I was like, oh, it didn't.
It didn't move. And I transferred again and then it

(43:11):
showed there was ten dollars, and then fifteen, and then twenty,
and it was coming up and I'm like, oh my goodness,
and it was like a horse race. By the end
of the day. My dad and I are watching. I
met my parents' house and my daughter and I were watching.
He's like, how much you have in there now? Over
two hundred and so it just sold all of a sudden.
It went crazy.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
And this was the day after you had told your
guys to get on get on the bus.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Good morning of yeah, oh wow, yeah, that's incredible. Yeah,
And so it's funny. Another lady stepped forward and her
name is Jackie Rio. She's a great energy healer herself,
and she had purchased the Court of Atonement booklet and
that night, it was ten o'clock at night when I
was doing it, ten o'clock at night. For her, she's

(43:58):
laying in bed and she's like, you know, I really
should post about that booklet on that Facebook group, because
she goes, that's the people love this. I should I
should just share this, And so she got out of
bed and went to her computer at ten o'clock at
night to share and it was a you know how
people share their screen for they share a screen photo,

(44:20):
and it was a screen photo of a dialogue between
her and her daughter, and it was mom, am I
being a guinea pig again about energy work? She made
a guinea pig again question mark and she said, yes,
I put you into a court of atonement for relationships.
And she said, my first boyfriend from high school called

(44:42):
me and apologized for half an hour for the way
he treated me.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Wow yeah, and yeah she goes she said, am I
a guinea pig about relationship? And so she shared that
result online and people went and said, I bought this
little book, I tried this and that happened, and so

(45:08):
you know, Bill ran and bought my little five dollar booklet.
They really helped me out of a jam. So thank
you guys.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Okay, all right, so I'm here by saying it spirit guides,
if you want this show to help people, then you've
got to make it happen. Get it out there there.
You think it will happen?

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (45:27):
Do you?

Speaker 2 (45:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (45:28):
Okay, I yes I do.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
I got to tell you that. My guides tell me
that the secret to life is we get what we expect. Ah. Well,
I expect we expect it to work.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
I expect the skeptical musicians to goss a million downloads
in two days.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Science knows that that's the reason that they have all
the double blind studies. They don't want to the placebo
effect works because they expect it to work, right. Yeah,
So yeah, my son in law is a is a
medical doctor, and he's I'm helping people in ways that
He's just like, what are you doing? And I just

(46:07):
told him, I said, you know, I said, if the
placebo effect works thirty three point three percent of the time,
I said, why isn't it the medical community out there
doing everything they can to improve the place books.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
There's no money in it. That's it, because there's no
money in it. So then she shared the booklet and
it went ral to that Facebook group and he just
went on from there.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Yeah, it went on from there, and then it got
sent to somebody that I was actually idolizing. His name
is Raymond Grace. He's a a dowser. He calls himself
a hillbilly, but he's an amazing wizard. Anyhow, he he
was so blown away by the results that he got
from it that he promoted it in his newsletter Wow,

(46:53):
dedicated the newsletter to it, and he already had like
twenty thousand followers, and so boom all of a sudden,
it really really split it. Right, Wow, that's amazing, that
is fantastic.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
So why do you think this resonated so much with
people so fast?

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Because it works, because it works, and everybody's hopeful that
there's something they can do, you know, and here it
is something that's pretty simple. It's compared to prayer. But
my guides assure me that it's a little different from
prayer because we're doing it at the soul level. We're
asking the higher self and to do the work, and

(47:31):
we're not bringing God in. And so every once in
a while I'll say, I place this into a court
of a tument with God and my guides, and I
turned it into a prayer and use the best of both.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
Worlds particularly difficult situation.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Right.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
That's so, here's the thing, Amy, Joe. You just gave
away the form, right, you gave us the language, you
gave us the process, you gave us everything. Why is
someone going to buy your little book.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Now because they're curious, they don't believe it.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Maybe maybe we should like censor the process. You just
got to do. Beer weep beer beer.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
I think they're going to I think they're going to
buy it. To support her because here she's giving all
of this information freely with love, with gratitude, hoping to help.
People going to want to support that if it's something
that that they can afford.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
I love that care now.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
I think that's wonderful.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
I love that and that that's the truth. And people
really are they're really supportive of me. Do I do
classes every other week and the same people show up.
They love it. They love being a part of it too,
because it's like, ah, this is even though it's been
around for ten years. I had been you talk about
being able to hold yourself back. I liked it trickling

(48:41):
in because it didn't overwhelm me, so to speak, you
know what I mean. I was afraid of it being overwhelming,
and so my guides they just let it keep coming
and keep coming. And it's growing to the point of,
you know, twenty thousand people, all of my own. So
that's that's it's it's sold. Probably that's twenty thousand in
my email list. And I don't take your email instantly

(49:04):
when you buy the book. You kind of have to
show up and want to be a part of Sure, Yes,
I hate spam. Yeah, I don't want to do it
to people.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
But I could see, I mean, your you, your soul
is shining like you. You are one of these people
that you just by just being your presence makes you
like smile, right, So I can totally see why people
would want to come to your courses and stuff and
just be in your presence because you you make us
smile like, you make us feel better.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
So I think it's wonderful. So do you, guys? And
what what? I love the way you put your show
together here with lots of laughter and really intelligent questions.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Well I'm glad. Do you think they're intelligent?

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Yeah? For the lack of better pronunciation, I mean on
my part.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
So does this do you think the court of atonement
can help with the actual physical healing or is it
mostly just like physical healing too?

Speaker 2 (50:03):
So when you start taking the stress out of the body,
the body starts to get to respond, right. And so
I don't look at it as, oh, I'm going to
go put myself in a court of atonement with cancer
as the resolve the reasons I have cancer. That's helpful,
but you know, ask to resolve cancer out of my body.
That won't work the reasons I have cancer A little better.
But if you can look back at your life and go, Okay,

(50:25):
all of this pain in this area started when I
was going through that, and you start using the court
of atonement between because really we're killing ourselves with the.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
Negativity to speaking of that negativity, can you put world
leaders in the court of atonement?

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Oh yes, many times?

Speaker 1 (50:45):
Have you already done this?

Speaker 2 (50:46):
You need to bring on.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
The angels everybody else's.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
Spirit, because if you're already doing this, I don't think
it's working.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Well. The thing is is that you'd be surprised. I'd
be worse. Oh God, that's it. No, I was going
to say, all of my people are trying to trying
to do it. I'm pretty much non political. I don't.
I just kind of let my little portion of the
world be and then as it filters in, I throw
it in the court of a tolement to have a
better outcome. So when I keep when I keep hearing it,

(51:15):
you know I haven't gone in and tried a preemptive
strike on well.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
I mean, this might be a really cool way to
there's all some conflicts are happening in the world right now.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Just thinking, just thinking, I will go at the like
she said, go at the leaders and ask to resolve
the causes. What's going on this cause?

Speaker 1 (51:35):
Okay, So in your book does it does it give
you the actual wording to use, because you've used it here,
but I've already forgotten it, so I need.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Exactly in the booklet it's and I highlight every time
it goes through it's in bold, And so anytime I
do something different, there's it's in bold, so that you
can go back and find it really easy and.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
You don't have to drop into a meditation or anything.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
You just no, it is stronger if you do Oh okay, Oh,
it is stronger if you'll if you'll do that, just
because you know, I think of think about radio stations
for a second there, how many of them are out there?
How many can you hear in your head right now?

Speaker 3 (52:15):
Just to kind of.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Dial that in, right, And so we want to dial
it in a little bit and then send that out
so the signal's really clear.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Gotcha, gotcha? Okay.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
And that's the reason I tell people to say them
out loud, to make them stronger. Say them out loud,
because we're we're dialing it in as we we Usually
the bulk of people don't just start talking unless they
know what they want to say. It said the book, I.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Say, yeah, you have not met some of our friends.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
No filter.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
All right, Well, if someone wanted to get involved in
your Facebook community or reach out to you, what's the
best way for someone to connect?

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Okay, Well, with the Facebook community, It's Court of Atonement
group on Facebook, and that is people are answering your
questions and it's absolutely the fun, loving group. They love
to help, they love to be helpful, and it's an
impressive place to go visit if they want to get
a hold of me. I should put it this way

(53:19):
on my website, which is courteviatonement dot com. I have
at the top sign up for the email and there's
a fourteen day free introductory lessons. I'm really wanting. It's
more important to me to get this into your hands
than it is to get your money from you. I
want people to get this help. I want them to

(53:40):
be able to And I did it because when I
was really poor, I needed help. I was having real
major emotional problems traumas, and people had put free content
that helped me when I couldn't afford to buy it,
and I was like pay it back, man, pay it for. Yeah,

(54:00):
so that's the reason it is the way it is.
So Yeah, if you go on to Courtofatonement dot com,
there's just a little banner at the top that says
sign up for fourteen days and every day I send
you an email that gives you a little bit more
insights as to why and how to use it.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Very cool, all right. Well, we're going to add direct
links in our show notes to those places, so if
you didn't have a pen in that particular point in time,
you need to connect with Amy Joe. Alling to do
is go to Skeptic metevisition dot com go to her
episode page. You'll find the links laid into directly, so
it's easy for you to connect and.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
They can buy your booklet off your website.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Yes, yes, there's five of them now, but oh there's Yeah,
there's the two main ones. Making Peace oh no, excuse me,
Healing your Family Tree is the first one, and then
there's a new one that's called Court of Atonement Explained,
which explains all the little things we've learned over the
past ten years and how to use all those tools too.
So it's full of full of cool stuff.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Very cool, all right, cool? Well, We're gonna make sure
that people know how to get in touch with you.
You have been an absolute joy to talk to. Thank
you so much for coming on the show and sharing
the Court of Atonement with us. That's how that's such
a cool thing. I'm I'm going to be doing it
like you and your your friend. We're gonna I'm gonna
be doing it like this person. Oh and this person,
this person, this person.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Yeah, I should say it's really easy to remember your
It's five or it's actually four steps. Just say four.
It's your name. Remember your name. It starts with your name.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
That's the power.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
And then you know, if you walk up to a
pharmacy and you want to get something from them, you
have to give them your name. You have to hit
so you start with your name. Second is to say
Court of Atonement, and then the third is to bring
in what it is you're wanting to work on, So
your name Court of atonemut what you want to work on.

(55:46):
And the last thing is ask for the desired result.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
Got it?

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Got it?

Speaker 2 (55:51):
So, So as to what you just said, I Amy
Jose for Richards ellis place the governments of the world
into a full court of a Tomment, I bring in
all the world leaders and all of the people who
are influential against them, are to them and against them,
and or for us to resolve the reasons things are
kind of going haywire right now. And I asked for

(56:14):
restoration of peace.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Just that simple.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
That world peace with four sentences.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
That's it. Well, we don't know what little chip we've
just taken off.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Right, So chip you know, chip by chip yeap. So
if you're listening to this show right now, or you're
watching this show, here is your mission, should you choose
to accept it, chip away. We need to get world
peace on this planet. So chip away, Amy, Joe, thank
you so much for helping us achieve world peace just

(56:45):
by being you.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Thank you so much's by honor.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
That's put in pleasure. We'll talk again real soon.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Thank you so much,
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