Energy Healing & Spiritual Awakening: The Hidden Power of Ancient Japanese Shamanism

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Karen, Yes, if I start levitating mid interview, I will
freak out. Well no, just normal, just not like as normal.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, normal meditating, that's normal, just.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Like okay, perfect. Yes, our next guest, see, he's basically
the metaphysical equivalent of a cosmic plumber. See he clears
out your energetic junk, realigns your spiritual pipes, and somehow
does it all without breaking a sweat.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Has he met us?

Speaker 4 (00:28):
Actually he has?

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Now remind me to save the studio after this one. Okay,
Because our guest doesn't just dabble in energy work, he
wields it like full on multidimensional Jedi level energy surgery.
I'm talking about someone who was born with the ability
to tap into the unseen. He didn't study it, he
didn't chase it. It chose him. Wow, And get this,

(00:51):
he uses a healing system that's so rare that I
couldn't even pronounce it the first three times I tried
to say.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
I mean, I may you're struggling with pronouncing anything right now.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
I may have even pulled a hamstring treatment trying to
pronounce it. Now we're diving into spontaneous spiritual awakenings. Energetic
extractions and the subtle art of not freaking out when
your body starts purging blocked emotions.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
You didn't even know you had.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Oh wow, so maybe we're your stretchy yoga pants on
this one. And uh, cracker window, because this one is
going to be wild.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
My name is Will, and unlike.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Moulderin Scully, both want to believe.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
So we've embarked in a journey of discovery.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and
metaphysical world.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
I even joined a coven of witches.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
And wait, you joined a coven yep, all on.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
The interest of finding something, anything that will prove that
there's something beyond this physical.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Three dimensional world we all live in.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
This is the skeptic metaphysicians. Hey there, it's Will, just
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Speaker 4 (02:51):
Thanks for listening. Hey, there, I will.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Karen, Welcome back to a very interesting episode of The
Skeptical of Diosiation. Okay, folks, remember that time, a long
time ago, we had this mysterious guest on the show
who wore a ninja mask the entire interview and he
casually did energy healing sessions on Instagram like it was
no big deal. Well, plot twist, he's back, and this

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time he's brought his face.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
Benton Ryer is.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Part sorcerer, part Shelman, and part martial arts mystic and
one hundred percent not messing around. He's the author of
the Shores of Eternity, which reads like Harry Potter, if
Harry Potter had wandered into a metaphysical bookstore, learned real
life magic, and then decided to become a spiritual ninja.
Now online he's known as Benton the Mage, where his

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nightly energy healing sessions have turned skeptics into believers and
clogged chakras into spiritual slipping slides.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
True story.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
When I was battling cancer, this man worked on me
energetically and something seriously shifted. We're gonna talk about that.
Then he practices an ancient Japanese spiritual tradition that's older
than your favorite crystal collection, and he's about to move
to Japan to go even deeper down the.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
Spiritual rabbit hole.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
So buckle up, clear your energy field, and maybe grab
some sage, because Benton Ryer is stepping out of the
shadows and into your earbuds. Bent and so good to
see you, actually, so good to actually see you.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
How you doing good?

Speaker 5 (04:26):
I'm in Japan now? Actually?

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Oh you already made Japan. You know you look like
you're in Japan.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Oh my gosh, wow, Well, thank you for getting up
for this, so.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
You could have picked any time to do the interview.
Why did you pick five am? Is it this part
of your new routine?

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Okay, he meant to hit the PM quick to am.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Well, all right, Benton. Last time you were on the show,
you were this mysterious figure that that you were. You
were purposely trying to hide who you were because you
were concerned about the repercussions or some of the things
things that you were doing. But here you are now
fully exposed, exposed. Yeah, what changed? What made you decide

(05:17):
to move away from that?

Speaker 5 (05:19):
Well? If work on more one person at once now,
So since then it's like, just come right, I'll have
to convince one person at a time. So I was
actually started doing that soon after that interview.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
Do one of the ones? Gotcha?

Speaker 5 (05:38):
Okay, doesn't matter. The number of people don't really matter,
so as long as they're sort of aware. But I'm
getting past that now.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Have you noticed any difference in how like you're perceived
now that you're showing your face as compared to how
you were when you were kind of in the shadows?

Speaker 5 (05:55):
Not really, not really. Most people ignore me, It's true.
Most people are going me.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
How about during the healing sessions?

Speaker 5 (06:04):
Though, during the healing sessions, not really enough people. People
show up. Most people don't believe. Most you don't believe
that the cognitive dissidence is straw people. That's true. A
lot of people will just not show up or not
even try. Even people pursue themselves really spiritual. Well, there's

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a lot of almost self perceived experts, and therefore they
will humor anything outside of their box. And even if
they though so. I'll just give you an example. There's
a there's a big Christian influencer, a Catholic one, and

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he wanted to explore all the major religions and I
would always do Shinto and he's like, send me your links.
We talked a few times and they finally watched them
and he decided that no, I'm not going to have
this person. He started to avoid me and he just

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did that. I answered, not answering anymore, because his idea
was that, you know, he expected what I am doing
is true, and he could thinks of himself as protecting people.
Because I'll tell you, like, if someone's in pain or

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they're suffering through something, they don't care what religion came from.
They don't care if they have been going to Mass
every other day for the last forty years. They don't
care because you know, they're already in hell a lot
of times. Yeah, so if somebody gives some relief, it's

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it's it means a lot. That's where a lot of
these folks are how can I say it, avoiding or
denying for their audience.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Unfortunately, Well you're in luck because we are all about
bringing you on.

Speaker 5 (08:27):
But you mentioned there's people that will have me on,
but you'll notice something very You'll mention something the very
there's very specific characteristics about them as opposed to others. So,
and which is basically what you said, is that they're
trying to learn stuff. Yeah, I discover stuff.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
So yeah, that's what the focus is, spreading information. So,
so it's been a while since you're on the show,
and like we said, we talked about being very different.
A lot of our audience are new to the show.
I mean, we have some people that have been on
for the long haul, but for those who are just
meeting you for the first time with this, what would
you say, Like, what do you call your practice? Like

(09:11):
what is it exactly that you do?

Speaker 5 (09:13):
Fundamentally, it's shinto it's facogy, the rights of clarification. We
call on now I call them, or I mostly call
them cove to purify the energetic bodies, which has an
effect on the physical body. And it's an ancient Japanese modality, right,

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long forgotten, long forgotten, Right. I remember the first time
you were on it was you didn't even want to
mention what it was because it was so ancient and
powerful that it was difficult to talk about it on
the show. But Shinto and the way that I saw it,
I think it's it's co Shinto, right, it's all Shinto. Yeah,
it's shink whatever. I mean, it's not like there's a

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bunch of people around here doing it, you know, it's
just people here will be I think they'll be more
receptive just because it's such a part. It's start foreign, right,
but for but for now, it's not something that's around
all right, it's start here a week, a week and

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a half ago or so.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Well, we have talked about a lot of healing modalities
on the show over the last five years of doing
the show. For whatever long, it's been what sets shinto
apart from all the other ones?

Speaker 5 (10:31):
Hell's a body?

Speaker 3 (10:33):
So is it? How is it different than than from reiki?
For example?

Speaker 5 (10:38):
Well, I actually do break your removals from people.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
What does that mean?

Speaker 5 (10:44):
It means that the Japanese dictionary, just the regular one,
has a different definition than what people think it is.
So it's it's one of those things that's hidden in
plain sight, and once it's removed, people who do people
will do it fulfill the difference right away. It's very subtle.

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It's a subtle impurity.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
Wow, no, this is what you do.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Do you consider it an energy modality, energy healing modality
or no?

Speaker 5 (11:18):
No, it's just a removal. Also, i'm doing it as
removing I'm not sure you any more with energy.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
So you're removing impurities from someone's.

Speaker 5 (11:26):
Yeah, I mean I'll use things like fire and things
like that to burntals away. But it's still removal.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
So how do we accumulate all of these energies that
you're helping people remove? Like, are there things people should
avoid doing that maybe gives them this negative or these
bad energies?

Speaker 5 (11:43):
Well, there's lots of ways that you can accumulate them.
The atmosphere that you're in, environment, other people. Most of
this worst stuff we're born with.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Oh wow, So it's like a generational thing, maybe.

Speaker 5 (12:00):
Not necessarily a generational thing. It's more so bad luck sometimes.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
Oh wow, okay.

Speaker 5 (12:10):
Bad luck depends on you know, where you're born. Yeah, way,
where when you're born. Astrological gateways have to do with it.
A lot of astrologists we'll call what I'm saying now blasphemy.
There's a bit more to it.

Speaker 6 (12:32):
Do you want to chair No, okay, it's still mysterious.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Okay, So bon do you consider what you do occult?

Speaker 4 (12:45):
Occult like occult practice?

Speaker 5 (12:48):
Yeah, it means hidden like sorcery. So yeah, when people
hear that, they think like they have an image of
weird ritual, right, But it's not that. I mean there's
some of that too, But the people that do things
like that, they're just calling up very low level parasites

(13:12):
that aren't really doing much but giving them a quick hye.
But yeah, there's just not that much there. So people
are much ado about nothing. It's almost like there's a
new Satanic panic. It's not almost there is Oh yeah, absolutely,
it's a new Satanic panic. Yeah, any little thing that

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comes up there is satanic, but it's a bunch of nothing.
You know. Think of it this way. When we think
of the monk and the mountains in it Tibet, and
they've hidden themselves away for years and years to develop
their power. They questioned equivalent that happens to be a

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witch of TikTok is not going to have the same
fortitude to do anything with any power or etsy for
that matter, even if they think they can themselves. It's
just not there. You know, the Western equivalent requires the

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same fortitude what not of these people have.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
So you were born, you didn't study to have these abilities, but.

Speaker 5 (14:30):
Not necessarily they have.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Okay, I was going to say, have you done any
other work to kind of hone them?

Speaker 5 (14:35):
Of course, I'm always doing it.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
When did you first realize you could help people.

Speaker 5 (14:40):
Like a lot, a lot maybe in the pandemic.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Oh yeah, yeah, people were struggling.

Speaker 5 (14:49):
That's so I can breathe better now. Yeah, we're still
don't set into a little bit after.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
So are you still doing those heal circles on the
Instagram or.

Speaker 5 (15:01):
No, I'm doing them on YouTube live.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
On YouTube okay, very cool YouTube live.

Speaker 5 (15:08):
Yeah, until algorithm slows it up a bit and there's
a lot of noise too, right, that's an issue. So
whenever I'm like, hey, I can help you with that,
it's like oh I have a hitler. I have a hitler. No,
thank you. I don't want anyone in my energy on cage.

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You're dying. No, no, no, no, I just that's fine.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
I just can't imagine.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
I can't imagine someone being that's sick and not wanting
to take help from anybody and everybody you know who
offers it.

Speaker 5 (15:45):
I don't know why.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
And in fact, when I was battling with my cancer,
we touched on it on the in the intro. You
were one of the people that graciously offered to help
me with that, and I had a we did a
bunch of different modalities and somewhere along the line, I'm
not sure if you actually ever heard the the final result.
And I don't know where it happened, how it happened,
But when I went back for my second biopsy, they

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couldn't find it. M So I can't discount that maybe
it was what you did that helped it.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
It is absolutely right, it was you shore that. Yeah,
it's it's and it's unfortunate too because of me. I'm
just getting into enough people. So there was a young
man very very yeah, like right now as parents are
bringing them home, he you know, his mom is really

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into this sort of thing. But he because of that,
he's kind of at all right, rebelled against it a
little bit. I worked on him and a week later
the first time is I guess tumors started shrinking and
they checked and I totally have to work on him
one more time. And he just like he was not

(17:04):
going out by traps. It's like, here's this this thing
where like he was in the mindsets like goingly, science
is gonna help me. So he didn't. We didn't finished.
Even though he felt it and experienced it very strongly,
he just didn't want to take it. And so I mean,

(17:27):
I'm reeling for bad a little bit.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
We talk about it all the time, how people have
no problem believing in the internet, you know, radio cell phones,
things that are not connected. It's just energy, you know,
traveling sound waves, whatever. Yet when it comes to this thing,
it's like somehow different because there's.

Speaker 5 (17:48):
A lot of frauds. There's a lot of modern and
historical frauds, so unfortunately this is kind of mixed in
with that. As far as people's perception.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
What do you say to people that believe that what
you do is evil?

Speaker 5 (18:12):
Evil? Yeah, I say, I say that whatever people think
right now about the unseen world, it's more complex than
what people are learned about it, just like any other
science always turns out to be more complex. And you

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have to take that inage account because what you've been
taught or would you believe is a very very simplified
version of what it actually is. And eventually it's going
to be discovered to be that. I'm working on that. Yeah,
that's right. Tell them. I just basically say, you're you're

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thinking of a very simplify by the way, it's not scientific,
but it will be. And ifore, I just created a map,
unseen practice map, and I up blooded that to my
Patreon and about eighty few percent of the people who

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pursued it is I don't know what this means. And
I'm like, well, it's basic as far as what this is.
But that's where I tried to explain to them. And
I also have to tell them that it's not evil,
it's not satanic, as a matter of fact, has nothing
to do with any of that. This is something completely

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different that historically had no contact with any of.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
That, right, and in fact, the devil Satan or like
nothing to do with any of this. No, In fact,
it was. It was created long after Shinto. Shinto from
what I understand was indigenous religion of Japan thousands of
years ago. That that believe that of the divinity in

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all things. Right, So you're you're dealing with with far older,
ancient energies than the new two thousand year old demonic
entities that were created by by the church leaders.

Speaker 5 (20:24):
Yes, correct, So yeah, I got to I tried. I
tried to explain that to people. You know, people take
with it, take with it what they will. I remember
I worked on a girl with a very bad stutter,
and I got rid of half of it, and she
was so preoccupied whether it was God or Jesus or

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the other side. You got to come back tomorrow so
you could finish and get rid of it. And she's
going to come back.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
Wow, that's too bad.

Speaker 5 (20:59):
It is too bad.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
What has been the most.

Speaker 5 (21:04):
Or something doing that to the people?

Speaker 3 (21:06):
So that's true. So what has been like the most?

Speaker 2 (21:11):
I want to say, astounding results that you've had with someone.

Speaker 5 (21:17):
I mean, I wish, I wish more people would come.
I don't know, just lots less. Some people won't even
tell me. Now I've brought people back for the drink.
It depends.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
Wow, is there someone that you can't help?

Speaker 5 (21:37):
Yeah, it happens. It happens. Yeah, it happens usually when
it's you. When it's that, it's usually because it came
in way too late, or because I'm not quite strong
enough yet. It's not quite rare. Ye know. I can't
make people's limbs ro back unfortunately. Yeah, but I can
do a lot. It's always good to get things early,

(22:00):
like you're a little thing, right, didn't quite need as
much as his magnet magnetize or m yeah, stuff in
his lungs or the young guy. And yeah, it was
the where this works very well with chemotherapy to be honestly,

(22:22):
believe it or not, because it actually it clears out
the radiation poison easily. And wow, it makes the chemotherapy
do where it's supposed to theoretically do. So it was
very well with that.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
Yeah, I don't believe it or not. Yeah. For one,
for example, one guy told them it's a game, and
I can tell people you're gonna have to take the
chemo too, because just because there's how much time the timeline.
He just didn't. He was like it was too expensive.
I can't afford it.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
Dude, this is your life you're talking about here.

Speaker 5 (23:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah, So now when doing my research on you this
time around, because the first time I had no idea
who you were, were just bringing you on. This time
I was able to stalk you a little bit. And
you've said before that the body stores trauma like a
metaphysical sponge. Can you explain how you see that relationship
between energy, memory and illness?

Speaker 5 (23:21):
Yeah? Sure. How many people have you ever met in
your life who have had a bad relationship and use
that as a perspective for our future relationships?

Speaker 4 (23:31):
I think everyone, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
That's beautiful. So there's that. Yeah, so I mean they
think that's the best example. That's something that people could quantify.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
Well, then do you do you think.

Speaker 5 (23:46):
That when men take when women take on more energy
than that?

Speaker 3 (23:52):
Great?

Speaker 5 (23:53):
What is that yang Yan receives?

Speaker 4 (23:58):
See, I give you're a giver. I am a giver.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
I mean everyone take it.

Speaker 5 (24:06):
Everyone has a mix of both, right mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
So do you believe that some souls are meant to
experience illness and things.

Speaker 5 (24:15):
Like that or no, no, no one's supposed to. Okay,
do you think so that's a that's a I mean,
although we do. But the idea I go, we choose
like this experience you go to see that we're not
supposed to have that. I mean it is, it's what's
happening now, but it's not supposed to be like that.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
All right, Well, then do you think that all suffering
is something we can release or are we meant to
always have a little bit of that?

Speaker 5 (24:47):
No? I think it's something we can do.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
You feel that you have no suffering?

Speaker 5 (24:54):
I may it's getting better.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yeah, so that's actually I deal with stuff.

Speaker 5 (25:00):
I deal with stuff all the time, right, I mean,
you don't think because I'm doing this and I don't
have any resistance from stuff like it is noticed.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
So can you do you just work on yourself?

Speaker 5 (25:16):
Of course? Yeah, I have to constantly. I have to
start doing this certain thing every day that I don't
really want to because it's so time and so I
mean I gotta do it.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Now, I would imagine you're in the situation where you're
helping so many people, you're probably exposing yourself to a
lot of bad energies. So do you do you have
to do like you know you hear about you do a
protective white light around you? Like, how do you protect yourself?
So what what do you do to protect yourself when
you're working with people?

Speaker 5 (25:48):
I have to do well. First, you have to cleep you,
you have to keep yourself lensed, you have to do
self purification. Then I have this drag and thing I do.
Know it's dragging, right, I do, And that's what I
have to do every day. And I have to go
to some shrines do some stuff there.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
Cool, it's basically public.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Oh wow.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
So you know what you know?

Speaker 1 (26:18):
What I love about you, Benon is that you're very
specific about what you're talking, what you say now, you're very.

Speaker 5 (26:24):
Except both what I don't say right right stuff?

Speaker 4 (26:27):
That's yeah, I'm.

Speaker 5 (26:30):
Not trying to be evasive. It's just like sometimes some
information it's too much too so.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
Totally understand that.

Speaker 5 (26:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
So when you're working with Shinto, is it you pulling
the energies or are you calling on other beings or
entities to work on the person that you're working on?

Speaker 5 (26:49):
Literally both, I'm I'm anchoring it. I found one person
else you to do I found actually two, not two
other people, Like found one who can just kind of
do it, who is actually really born with it, but
to the point where he doesn't know anything about it,
which is actually weakens it. And like neither of them

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really know about what their stuff. They don't know how
to contextualize it. So they contextualize it. One of them
contextualizes it with new age stuff and the other one
kind of ignores all that new age stuff, which is better,
but I don't know, so that he contextualizes it in

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his own experiences. The other guy he listens to the
people around him, so and he's not going to listen
to one person tolling them stuff.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
So then when you're like these two guys, when you're
born with it and they don't know how to use it,
how then do you learn about about it?

Speaker 5 (27:57):
One of it, one of it one person that is
a bit wild, So it just kind of comes out
and he could control it, but it's sort of like that,
so he's just able to do it. And one of
them had just like guides that they're really opinions called
our chands that I attached to spine tell them what

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to do.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
Oh wow.

Speaker 5 (28:22):
Yeah, a lot of people who that a lot of
people who think they're communicate with guides are actually attached
to things attached to them that are feeding alf.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Of Yeah, I remember that was something that we talked
about the first time. You were wrong, which freaked me out.
But anyway, how did you come across Chinto or I
know that we said that it came to you, But
how did you stumble on it? There's only three of
you doing this that you found something.

Speaker 5 (28:50):
I haven't booked about it.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
It was an old tome that you found in some
dusty library somewhere, or just just some dude just wrote
a book about it.

Speaker 5 (28:58):
What do you like, like if I wrote a book?

Speaker 4 (29:01):
No, I know, I know you didn't want to talk
about it.

Speaker 5 (29:03):
I need to actually if yeah, I have to say
if people are looking for that now it's not online,
I'm going to put it. I think I'm gonna put
it back up soon though, because someone was gonna basically
just copy it if I kept it up. Oh, so
take it down for the time.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
But I mean, like the book that informed you about Shinto?

Speaker 5 (29:26):
Was it?

Speaker 4 (29:26):
I mean I don't, I don't.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
I doubt you found it on Amazon, right, Like, how
did you stumble on this book?

Speaker 5 (29:31):
You know, you'd be surprised how many people write books.
Was allowed a good information in it in which they
can just do themselves at a very subtle level, but
it still works. So there's that. But no, you'd be
surprised how much stuff you can actually find on Amazon,
which has some good stuff. Like there's one book I

(29:55):
bought there for exact I can't think of what it was,
but it's like, because I teach people, they come to
my groups and think start opening up for them, and
they open up in different ways with different people, and
one of them is, you know, the ability to start
seeing stuff with their kind of inner vision. And this

(30:19):
book was basically the author was limiting. He's like, I'm
writing this book although like there might be like three
people that are going to be able to do any
of it. So it was very I think it was
very biolistic, which is kind of funny. I laughed at it, right,
He's like, okay, so a lot of people who do readings,

(30:40):
they get all these different symbolic images in their mind's
eye and they try to think of what it is
and they can't figure it out. What you need to
do is just like make your own symbols and think
about those and write them down and those will be
communicated to you. And I thought about that and think, well,

(31:01):
couldn't that be done with Chinese characters? And sure enough
they can be, and there's more meaning that way. It's
even more accurate just because those are It's this writing
system is both soul and it's infused into the art itself.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
Right.

Speaker 5 (31:23):
So yeah, so that's just an example. So yeah, I mean,
it doesn't start discounting other people's work because there's good
There is good stuff and some of the stuff. And
the thing is, like I think too, and I think
the reason why I haven't been on a lot of
magic podcaster shows is because it's the results for people

(31:49):
are usually very very personal, right, and they can't verify
it outside of themselves, right, So they can't Yeah, they
can't prove it. In other words, right, it's something that
they have to prove to themselves. Or they can't prove it.
It's not something that they could prove to other people.

(32:11):
So they can't say, hey, check out my magic. You know,
right now, I'll make it work. I could do that, right,
But since they can't, then because there is some arrogance too,
they well they won't humor it. I actually had a

(32:36):
response responses where they look at everyone and just think
everyone's crazy or everyone's just pretending that they're feeling something working.
Science doesn't even do that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
No, And I think that if you didn't listen to
our first interview with Benton, I recommend you go back
and listen to it because I think it gives you
a really good understanding of where we started. You've come
a long way between then and now. Are you still
back in the day? Back then, you you did all
these healings, I mean dozens and dozens and dozens of

(33:12):
healings and you didn't charge anyone for anything.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
How does that? How has that gone for you?

Speaker 5 (33:19):
I so don't. Once in a while, I'll help someone
so much love sit me something, so let's work you
tild fine.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
So, first of all, that's amazing, Yes, it's still I
was amazed then. I'm still amazed now that you actually
take the time to do this, because it was like
bucketfuls of things of healings that you would do and
you wouldn't charge anyone anything.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
So thank you for that.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
And like I said earlier, I can't one hundred percent
sure know that what you did is what helped me
with my cancer. You're sure it is, And I think
that's great and I'm because you're so sure, I'm more
inclined to believe that maybe.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
It was it was you. So we're just going to
go with it.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
But that when you first offered to work on me,
your words I remember them very clearly, is oh, I've
never tried to help anyone with cancer before. Let me
see what I can do.

Speaker 5 (34:20):
Oh yeah, that's a lot. That was a while though, it.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Was it was a while ago. It's like almost four
years ago this happened. So do you feel more ready
to help people with bigger deals like that?

Speaker 5 (34:33):
I do.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
I do.

Speaker 5 (34:36):
Yeah. Yeah, they just have to come. They have to
show up, so they have to do a show up
and well we do it from there. I show up
at a listed than me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
So when you say show up, is it just show
up for your.

Speaker 5 (34:52):
YouTube, show up the things, show up for the hildings.
You know, work on people one on one where I can.
I was a little for that now, but people just
come to the groups. So that's more of a thing.
If they just want to send me some money, say
I'll work on you one on one. Yeah, that's yeah,

(35:16):
that's right. It's fine. People people will come and they
will tell me that there's something going on. They should
because I could focus on it a little bit, and
focusing on it it's just a it's basically just a
passive thought. So they could telling me helps Some people

(35:38):
come up and think that what they have is just
too big, it can't be helped. Yeah, it's just a
matter of getting out there. I think. But again I've
had I've had a lot of trouble with that. I've
been rejected by two very big podcasts recently, very just hardy. Sorry, yeah,

(36:02):
you stay out. But to be sure, I don't even
think they looked at any of the stuff from Juvie M.
I think you're probably right. I don't think they looked
at it, betimes. They just deal with people with big followings.
They deal with a lot of talking.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 5 (36:20):
That's the scope of what they experienced unfortunately.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Well, Benton, you always have a home here. You could
always come back anytime. Since you do these live healings
on YouTube, can you give us a taste of what
that would be like here?

Speaker 4 (36:41):
Now?

Speaker 5 (36:42):
Yeah? Sure?

Speaker 4 (36:43):
Do we need to do anything to prep.

Speaker 5 (36:45):
For it or we just know we could do it?

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (36:48):
Okay, well the floor is yours then.

Speaker 5 (36:52):
Okay, go ahead. I guess, go ahead and relax, close
your eyes, breathe my dad. If you want, anyone who's listening,
Kami am a tea, shima so mami, Kami nao, saka, Kito,

(37:18):
Sonachi ka Lani Mani, Kordanijo, misa me mini on an.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
All right, hey, there, this is a future will editing
this show coming in. Stepping in for a quick second
to let you know. The healing session was much longer
than what we put in this episode, but we didn't
want to prevent you from listening to the rest of
it if you weren't in the position where you were
ready to just sit down, close your eyes, relax and

(38:02):
get the feeling, get the benefits of the healing. So
we've decided to cut it here and move forward to
the point where he finished the healing so that you
can continue listening. But what we're doing is we're going
to release just the healing section and everything happened thereafter
on a future episode if you tune in. Depending on

(38:25):
when you listen to this show, we usually release the
show on Wednesday mornings, at least Wednesday mornings on the
East Coast of the United States, but then on Monday morning,
the following Monday, we release a bonus episode, sometimes the
classic episode. Sometimes it's one of the episodes that we
did when we were live as Spiritfast or something along
those lines. Well, next Monday, we're going to release just

(38:49):
the healing section as a bonus episode so that you
can take the time to really sit and listen and
feel the full benefits of the healing session, because it
is quite long and it is so worth it. Then
we're not talking hours long at all, but it's long
enough where to sit and listen to him speak Japanese

(39:11):
for an extended period of time. It might lose your interest,
and we didn't want to do that because we want
you to stick around for.

Speaker 5 (39:17):
The rest of the episode.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
So if you're interested, check.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
It out on Monday or depending when you're listening to this,
it could already be out there for you to listen
to as a follow up, but for the time being,
we're gonna now rejoin the interview right after he finished
the healing session so that you get the feeling of
what Karen and I felt afterwards.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
For so, all right.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Thanks for listening, and we need to take a quick pause,
but we'll be right back right off to these messages.
Hey there, we hope you're enjoying these conversations as much
as we are. If you are and you feel called
to give back, we invite you to visit our website
at skepticmanephysition dot com, where you can donate to the
show or subscribe as a member through our buying Me

(40:02):
a Coffee campaign. Your support will go a long way
towards allowing Karen and I to bring you these wonderful
conversations and teaching in more and more robust ways. As always,
thank you so much for listening. Let's go ahead and
get on with the show.

Speaker 4 (40:18):
That's what I gotta say. You scared the crap out
of me.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
When you came back on the microphone. I jumped out
of my seat, Joze, But well, what did you feel, Karen?

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Wow? First of all, that was so incredibly relaxing. And
then all I could see was just like this little
old Asian monk, Like I mean, that's like that was
like I don't know if you were channeling someone, but
that's like what I was feeling. And then at one
point it's like my head just went this way, like
it was like being pulled in the rat towards the rat.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
I don't know what. I don't know what that was about,
but I was wild.

Speaker 4 (40:59):
Was that Japanese you were speaking?

Speaker 3 (41:03):
That's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Well, people who have been watching or listening for a
long time know that I'm kind of hit or miss
on feeling things. And I don't know if I'm supposed
and I asked you this the first time you worked
on me. I don't know what if I'm supposed to
feel or what I'm supposed to feel, but I definitely
felt something. I just don't know what it was. I mean,
it's it's it's it was definitely it was. It was

(41:24):
a helpable feeling. And we've had these things before on
the show. People have worked on us in a show,
just giving us a sample of stuff, and I don't
know if I've felt it as strongly as I felt
it now before. So WHOA, Yeah, that was that was wonderful.

Speaker 5 (41:40):
Thank you for that. Well what would you feel?

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Well, let me think about this. I think it was
like someone grabbed me and shook me and then shook
all the tension out of me and like made me
drop into something. And I was just voting, and then
there was a time where I kind of was coming
back up and then I pulled back down the end.

Speaker 4 (42:08):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 5 (42:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (42:10):
Sure, sure, you have you heard that before?

Speaker 5 (42:15):
Sure? I mean I hear all kinds of things.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (42:18):
So I think this is a good time for everyone
who's who did that and participated that everyone know what
you failed in the comments.

Speaker 4 (42:28):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I love that. Definitely.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
If you felt something and just now just please go
ahead and lay that down.

Speaker 5 (42:35):
The things happen when I do this on shows, either
people they joy participate or they just kind of stare
like nothing's going to happen. They just don't do it.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
They don't do it right.

Speaker 5 (42:47):
Yeah, Yeah, a lot of people don't do it. They
don't do it.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Well, we probably should have put a disclaimer before he
did it. I might have to do it in then
edit it later. If you're in a car or you're
not in a place where you can actually listen to
this and actually participate, don't just just stop it for
a second, go home, get into your bed, and then
play it.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
Yeah. So that leads me to my question.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Then, if someone is listening to this after the fact,
after you you know, Eric, is it going to have
to have the same effect that we felt live or.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
Yeah, okay, awesome.

Speaker 5 (43:22):
One person played in their car, played me in their car,
and someone merged into them and their car just bounced off.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
So you're not saying to go ahead and listen to
it in the car.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
You've got some protection.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
I don't want to because it's just like I.

Speaker 5 (43:46):
Won't put you to sleep when you're driving.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
I think you wouldn't be able to enjoy it as
much if you're having to focus on the road.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
You know, So did you feel anything when you were
working on us?

Speaker 4 (43:58):
And so what? Okay, what did you feel better?

Speaker 5 (44:05):
It feels like a force field expanded that word.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Wow, so she push m hm, that's cool.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
So maybe what I felt was his she his che
pushing me down into a hole. Maybe? Yeah, very cool.
Do you get any messages or anything? Like do you
know if there's anything happening inside of one of us?

Speaker 5 (44:32):
That I never know what people are going to feel,
but like I might know what's happening, but I yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:41):
Do you see the energy is working on a particular
part of a body?

Speaker 5 (44:45):
Or yes, I do. That is if I target something,
I mean I can only look at one person, I
can only look at one place at once.

Speaker 4 (44:57):
I mean, you've got two worries come on.

Speaker 5 (45:01):
So it's like, so if people asking did you see anything,
it's like I could see one thing out of time.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Yeah. They want to know if there's those spine sucker.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Things, spine soccer things, sarkans.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (45:22):
Yeah most people. Yeah, most people have them. If people
have some type of psychic gift while they're very strong,
and they usually have more wow turning off from them. Yeah,
well of course some of them are. Now I don't
have any of those things, like yeah you dou I

(45:44):
had them and they drove me crazy trying to get
rid of it.

Speaker 4 (45:49):
So it sounds like it's like much easier for me
to do now.

Speaker 5 (45:52):
But then it was like these things are coming off,
they would come back until they did it.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
So wow, it sounds like you're saying that these arcons
are like crabs.

Speaker 6 (46:04):
Everyone's got them. Yeah except me, well not everyone. People
there are very very Coldabaldy will not have them because
other pupils are.

Speaker 4 (46:17):
Oh wow, man, I explained it awful lot.

Speaker 5 (46:22):
Yeah yeah, it does.

Speaker 4 (46:23):
Goodness.

Speaker 5 (46:25):
Well if there's other things too, it's not just those.
There's a lot of different things. So don't get it.
I don't want people could be wrong. It's endless, Like
I deal I deal with a lot of these stupid
eteas now oh wow, yeah, I deal with a lot
of those and it's not fun.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
Yeah wow, that's that's all. It's like a little scary,
like what else is climbing on you?

Speaker 5 (46:58):
I these I they yeah, getting into it. I mean
you can if you want, but yeah, these these stupid
ets things too. They interfere a lot. They don't want
me healing people or removing stuff.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Oh wow, So I mean I think we need to
have you back to talk about that. But yeah, so
I got a curiosity are you talking because we hear
there's all kinds of races of ets like no.

Speaker 5 (47:26):
There's not, it's just the same one and then they're
pretending to be those ones to compromise to infiltrate people.

Speaker 4 (47:33):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
Okay, definitely have to have you back to talk about that.

Speaker 5 (47:37):
Stuff.

Speaker 4 (47:37):
Is that goes.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Completely the opposite of everything else. So okay, unfortunately we're
out of time. We were already at the hour of mark.
But question for you, sure if if someone wanted to
participate in your healing sessions or reach out to you
to do a one on one session or learn from you,
what's the best way for someone to reach out to you.

Speaker 5 (48:01):
Just go to my channel. I'm there every single night
eight thirty pm Pacific mostly and the little sporad agnalysis
I just moved and tired for different getting my schedule,
or they could just go to Esoteric Shinto dot com
or Benton Ryer dot com find the links to the

(48:24):
book a session. I don't charge a lot from only
charge sixty dollars far as one on one session. Cool,
that's great, and I try to they try to stay
as accessible to everyone. And when it comes to teaching,
like I don't want people to expect too much because

(48:46):
to get anywhere requires a lot of purification and people
have instant expectations. But of course there's something to do
with that to them, of course.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
So well, Benton, it was truly a pleasure to see
uh again. And I do think we need to get
you back on and talk about all the dark stuff,
because that would be like a skeptic musicians after dark,
it'd be totally different feet But in the dark, oh no,
we don't want to be in the dark.

Speaker 4 (49:19):
Wouldn't be able to see him.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
We couldn't see him the first time, keep seeing him,
so Thank you for coming on Benton. It was a
pleasure having you on show again. Thank you so much
for coming and sharing of your wisdom with us.

Speaker 5 (49:30):
You're welcome anytime.

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