From Scarcity to Soul-Aligned Wealth: Spiritual Awakening and Money Neutrality for Abundant Living

(00:00:00) Can Spirituality and Wall Street Mix?
(00:03:00) Meet Elizabeth Ralph: From Corporate Finance to Spiritual Investor
(00:05:00) Money Neutrality: The Hidden Key to Wealth
(00:07:00) Will’s Existential Crisis: “Every Day I Go Into Work, A Piece of Me Dies”
(00:08:30) From Lack to Neutral: The Energetic Bridge
(00:10:50) Who Are You… Really?
(00:13:00) Discovering Your Soul’s Currency
(00:16:30) What Is Money Neutrality, Really?
(00:19:00) Karen’s Realization: “I’m Just Someone Who Loves”
(00:22:30) Old Paradigm vs New Paradigm Living
(00:25:00) The Fastest Way to Know Who You Are
(00:27:00) Trading Energetic Currency: The Real Wealth Exchange
(00:30:00) Spiritual Entrepreneurship Without Scarcity
(00:33:00) Breaking the Programming: “But I Chose It 17,000 Times!”
(00:36:00) Ditch the Metrics. Choose the Miracle.
(00:39:00) Finding the Real Signal in Feedback
(00:41:00) How to Speak to Millions: The Million-Person Silence Test
(00:44:00) Feeling vs. Chasing: Reclaiming True Freedom
(00:47:00) When the Universe Gives You a Microphone
(00:50:00) Real Abundance = Radical Presence
(00:52:00) Real Client Transformations: Timeline Jumping & Life Shifts
(00:55:00) How to Work with Elizabeth + Listener Free Gift
(00:57:00) Final Reflections: “I’ve Got a Lot of Thinking to Do”

In this mind-blowing episode of The Skeptic Metaphysicians, discover how to bridge the gap between your bank account and your higher self as we explore the powerful concepts of spiritual awakening, money neutrality, and financial abundance. Join us as former Wall Street financial executive Elizabeth Ralph shares her transformative journey toward soul-aligned wealth. 

Learn how walking away from a corporate finance career led her to a reality where money flows through energy and frequency. Elizabeth takes hosts Will and Karen on a revealing journey, redefining money as energetic currency and demonstrating how to embrace your true self to magnetize wealth effortlessly. 

If you've ever felt stuck in the paycheck-to-paycheck cycle or questioned the sustainability of spiritual entrepreneurship, this episode is your portal to understanding how true abundance works. Explore how to shift your beliefs about lack and success while unearthing the secrets to building financial freedom alongside your spiritual journey!

What You’ll Learn in This Episode 

• How to Create Wealth Without Sacrificing Your Soul: Elizabeth shares the concept of money neutrality, the energetic sweet spot where you stop chasing and start magnetizing wealth from a place of ease and deep authenticity.
• How to Rewire Your Beliefs About Lack, Security, and Success: Karen and Will courageously share their own money blocks, and Elizabeth lovingly (but firmly) dismantles the myths we’ve all internalized about scarcity and “earning” our worth.
• The Real Reason You Haven’t Hit That Next Level Yet: Spoiler alert: It’s not because you haven’t worked hard enough. It’s because you haven’t dropped into the knowing of who you truly are, and Elizabeth shows you exactly how to access that.

“When you know who you are from a feeling point, not a definition, you walk into a room and people feel it. That’s when money, opportunities, and support start inviting themselves into your life.”
— Elizabeth Ralph
 
Plus: How to invite the quantum field into your business, what to do when metrics mess with your mindset, why timelines are collapsing faster than ever, and how to build your future from infinite possibility instead of fear.

About Elizabeth Ralph
 
Elizabeth is a former financial executive turned spiritual mentor, intuitive wealth strategist, and host of The Spiritual Investor podcast. She’s helped thousands shift their relationship with money, step into authentic wealth creation, and build a life where financial independence and higher consciousness coexist beautifully. Her platform offers transformative programs, investing education, and access to aligned wealth-building communities.
 
Learn more at elizabethralph.com

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Karen, Yes, I've been thinking a lot. Yeah, I don't
know how to take that.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
I'm very proud of you.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Okay, well I've been thinking a lot about Wall Street?
Oh oh yo, Yes, the big question there that I've
been grappling with all this time. Do you think there's
a way to connect spirituality with Wall Street?

Speaker 2 (00:23):
I have, I don't even know. It would be great, it.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Would be great, right. Well, it's a trick question because
today'se guests went from corporate finance to energy finance. Oh
that means she literally helps people align their money with
their frequency.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
But what about their lack of money?

Speaker 1 (00:42):
I think we're gonna be talking about that.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Because I don't know that I want my frequency.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
All right, Karen, I think it sounds like my kind
of investment plan finally exists. But brace yourself because she's
about to reveal how wealth, freedom and spiritual alignment can
actually work together. And no, Karen, she's not just here
to fix your spending habits, although fingers crossed my spending habbits.
My name is Will and I'm garous, and unlike Boulder

(01:10):
and Scully.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Both want to believe.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
So we've embarked in a journey of discovery.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and
metaphysical world.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even
joined a coven of witches.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
And wait, you joined a coven?

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yep, all in the interest of finding something, anything that
will prove that there's something beyond this physical.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Three dimensional world we all live in.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
This is the Skeptic Metaphysicians. Okay, real talk. Life is
a lot. I mean, between working full time producing the
Skeptic Metaphysicians, launching new reality TV, and trying to be

(01:54):
halfway decent parent. Sometimes I feel like I'm running on
coffee vibes and sheer stubborn and look, I'm not proud
of this, but when I hit that wall my nerves,
I get crispy, like burnt toast in a meditation circle
kind of crispy. But then I remember my secret weapon,
my little magical flute of calm, my love tuner. Yep.

(02:15):
It's basically a necklace that you blow into, but not
just any necklace. This baby emits a five hundred and
twenty eight hertz frequency, also known as the love frequency.
A few breaths through it and boom, instant reset. It's
like my stress just packs it bags and goes in
a silent retreat in Sedona. Seriously, it helps me recenter,

(02:37):
quiet the chaos and feel like myself again. And who
wouldn't want a portable pocket of peace? Well, if you're curious,
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support the show too. So go ahead and tune into
love and maybe save your own sanity in the process. Hey,

(02:59):
there are Will and I'm Karen, and today we are
excited to welcome the Spiritual Investor to the show. She's
a former financial executive who walked away from corporate success
to pursue a spiritual path that connects energy, intuition, and money.
She helps people build true financial freedom by investing in
alignment with her soul's purpose. Elizabeth has guided thousands of

(03:23):
seekers and entrepreneurs to rewrite their money story, stop living
paycheck to paycheck, and actually create wealth that feels authentic.
I'm feeling Karen's excitement level grow by the second. We
are thrilled to welcome her to the skeptic musicians. Elizabeth Ralph, Elizabeth,
thank you so much for being on the show today.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Thank you. I think I could just sit here and
say nothing and just listen to you guys. I'm walking
to you like I'm like watching the Vanderbick.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
I'm like, there he goes, there, she goes, oh yeah,
here she goes.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Oh that she's what you gonna say?

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Uh, well, no pressure.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
We like to have fun.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
We do this is this is fun for us, and
especially because we get to talk to really like fascinating
guests like you, the Spiritual Investor. I need to ask
right up front. You had a very successful corporate career.
What in the world went through your head to say
I'm going to spiritual route.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Oh god, you sound just like my family. They said,
They're like, wait, wait, wait, wait, how many years have
you been like trying to get this position that you're
in now?

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (04:28):
And what are wait, what you're doing? What you're leaving?
I know, well, I think you know, just like a
lot of people, we have these things that we want
to do and it's kind of become the more logical
it is, the more it really sometimes becomes from us,
because if it was from the thinking mind, then it
would seem logical. And so it didn't seem logical that

(04:51):
I would walk away from a career on a financial
floor making six figure bonuses. But I was like, you
know what, every time I step in the elevator and
go up to this high security floor. I mean, I
love the people I worked with, I love the job,
but every time I did that, I felt like God,
like a part of me has to just sit here
and just I don't know, go away, or like there

(05:14):
was a part of me that was just felt like
it was leaving and it was really hard to explain,
and I felt kind of like a whiny baby, like
very ungrateful too every time I mentioned it, even to myself.
So what I decided to do is I just decided
to choose. So if that's what I was feeling, then
I would choose to buy my way out of it.

(05:36):
That way, I could always stay in money neutrality, which
is the place that I've always lived with money. That's
what I teach, And I'm like, so, how can I
create the setup for money neutrality rather than worrying about
an amount of money? Because the money neutrality is the energetic,
greatest opening to money and every single time. Money will
follow you there, and that's exactly what happened.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Well, it took a whole lot of courage, though, to
take that step, because, like you said, you did walk
away from the six figure bonuses for God's.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Sake, but she was paying with her soul.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Well, I hear you, and Elizabeth, you are speaking to
my soul right now. I don't know how many times
I've talked about it in the show and to Karen.
That is where I am right now. Every time I
go into the office, I feel like a little part
of me it's missing.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Is lost to your boss doesn't listen to this.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
No, I love my boss. The only good thing about
my job is my boss. Hi, Stephanie. But but but
it took it took a lot of courage. I'm at
the point where I don't think I have the courage
to just walk away from anything that is keeping my
family afloat.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
M hmm.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Well you would if you didn't see any lack in it,
because then you couldn't you couldn't actually feel like you
needed courage to replace whatever it is you feel like
you're going to need to replace.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
I have a whole lot of lack Yep.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Yeah. So I mean typically with myself, like this simplest
plan ends up being the best for me because it's
almost like and I feel like when we get plans
like from knowing this, like I don't know you you
know you have kids, right? You didn't have to call
and ask someone how to eraise my kid. This is
knowing this, right, It's like a oh you did. Do

(07:21):
you have a knowingness about something else?

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Do I have a knowing with something else? I know
how to eat? Like no one's business, that's true. Yeah, no,
I totally understand what you're saying. Yeah, we're teasing, but
we did know, like we were scared leaving the hospital,
like how are we going to take care of this life?
But yeah, it became it was instinctual for us.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Yeah, and it's interesting because we also look back on
those really scary moments as some of the best moments
of our life. Yet going forward, if we look at
our future, we're afraid to live those.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
So you know when my next question is going to
be right.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
It's infinite possibility.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
One question and that is how how does someone go
from lack to neutrality?

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (08:08):
And how does someone So I'm sure you get this
a lot. You know, you're talking about making six figure bonuses,
but most people aren't. So how does someone that how
does someone that doesn't have that situation get the courage
to take these steps?

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Well, money is all relative because money is ones and zeros.
So a six figure bonus to me that could be
the same thing as a million dollar bonus to someone else.
That could be the same thing as a fifteen hundred
dollars bonus to someone So we have to understand that
money is only defined by our own personal relationship with it.
So I think that's the first thing, is what is

(08:46):
your relationship to the certain amount of money that makes
you feel at ease? And how can you buy your
way into that based on knowingness and choices? I knew
like I had. This phrase came to me when I was,
you know, in my early thirties, because I retired at
thirty nine, So the phrase it didn't even really make sense.

(09:08):
It's just that I kept hearing it, and what it
was was you're going to need options in your forties,
and it was almost like I kind of trusted it
more because I didn't have any definition. It also served
me well because it applied everywhere you know. I remember
talking to my best friend on the phone at lunch
and I was just miserable in it, and I was like,

(09:30):
she's like at on a boat on the lake and
don't you want to come up? And you know all this,
and I'm like, but I'm going to need options in
my forties. Now I'm painting this picture. It's not like
I've like struggled and stressed out. I mean, I did
have a great life, and like I said, I did
love the job, but I knew that I didn't want
to be in a corporate office kind of surrounded by

(09:52):
the glass wall, which felt like it was closing in
for an extended period of time, because I did know
deep down that I was going to have to give
up a part of myself to keep doing it into
my late forties, fifties and sixties. And it was just
there's no wrong or right, but there is a very
solid answer for you will that makes like where you're

(10:16):
just like it feels like a hammer just landed. You're like, no,
that's what I'm doing. And then once you get that
there's no such thing as courage.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
I get that the problem is finding what that hammer is. Yeah,
not really, Oh God, we got to talk Okay, hey,
all right, let's let's take it back. We've talked to
people that talk about the law of attraction and abundance
and all that kind of stuff on several occasions, and

(10:49):
everyone has talked about the fact that money is really
just energy, right, It's an energy flow, money in, money out,
money in, money out. You're supposed to let it flow, right,
So how you talk well, aligning people with their frequency
when it comes to money, what does how does that

(11:09):
fit into the energy flow that we've talked to different
people about.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
Well, I mean, we could even you know, build upon
you this time. We kind of started this with your example.
So let me just ask you, who are you will
going with that?

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Who am I I am? I'm a I'm a husband,
I'm a father, I'm a el Who are you? Though?

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Not? What?

Speaker 1 (11:37):
I am sure that? I'm not sure that I know
who I am? In that case? I mean you do,
do I Maybe you can define that question for me.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Let's say you were dropped here on earth, just like
alienship dropped you down right, this is perfect for this
this podcast too. Write We've all got the visual of this, right,
you guys all go with me here right, Yes, will's
being dropped down onto the ground poof like.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
On the grounds all the time.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yes, the dust is puffing up on all the sides
of them.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Right.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
There's no one around. It's just you. There's no kids,
there's no wife, there's nothing. It is just you and something.
Whatever you envision it is. You get the message somehow
that all you have to do is go out and
exchange your full value and money, which is energy, will

(12:33):
be exchanged equally back to you. That's all you have
to do. You don't have to talk to anyone. You
don't have to unless it involves that that's all you
have to do. What would that be?

Speaker 1 (12:44):
I think that might be part of the problem. I'm
not really sure. I know my entire career has been
in television, so knee jerk, it would be. I'm a
television producer, but I'm not now because it's not I
don't feel aligned. So then I'm a storyteller, but I'm

(13:06):
not because I don't tell stories anymore. I help other
people tell stories. So I guess I'm a messenger of sorts.
I'm a platform for those with a message to get
their messages across me.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Do you what do you get when when someone when
you get a message across to someone, what do you
feel is what's there for you?

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Joy? I have fun? Right, we do the show and
it's a lot of fun. We enjoy doing this. What
are we doing?

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Okay? And then thank you for going through this, by
the way. And then when you give someone you say
you're a messenger. What's the benefit to them of getting
the message.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
That you give?

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Hopefully you will help them to grow spiritually?

Speaker 3 (13:55):
How do you know that?

Speaker 1 (13:56):
I don't. I don't. I take it on faith. We've
gotten messages from people that say that it helps them,
that it has been a source of inspiration for them,
that it's helped them to make them feel normal. So
we get those that feedback from people. We don't know
for sure how many or who or if we help people.
We just do it because we love doing it.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Well, that's what I wasn't say, right, So you can
probably tell when it's a second in person. But yeah,
it would be probably more difficult with this. So you
kind of already do know what you want to do,
so then it what you can do is you can
sort of there is something there. You have more of

(14:39):
a foundation than you think about what you want to do, so,
then you can look in the area of permission because
there's something standing in the way of You're the only
one that can block your access, and so of course
you would feel like a part of you is dying,
and it would seem like the circumstances, but it's actually

(15:02):
lack of access. And every time, because your attention is
so incredible, because you've been given or all given energetic currency.
And so when you rise to the standard where the
way that you are living and this is for all
of us, not just you, is your attention. Your standard

(15:24):
is so high that you would never actually allow yourself
to say I don't know, because it's that valuable. What
it does is it pulls your energy in so vertical
and so deep that you almost walk around in life
like things are in slow motion. And when you walk

(15:46):
in a room, people feel you people it is you
have a different presence. And the deeper you go into
your presence, what happens is that people start getting getting
invited into you, money, opportunities and all this. And that
is when the universal field actually which is already here,
gets to get in and then your entire life is

(16:07):
operating by an invite and the only thing that you're
going back to is that knowingness, and it happens very fast.
There's an acceleration factor because then the world around you
feels what you're doing. It's like you can when someone
decides they're going to be a professional baseball player and
they start to orient their life, their world around them

(16:30):
changes and we all start to sort of invisibly support them.
And that's where it goes into. We're expanding into our
greater consciousness and at the same time, we're on a
path of abundance. Be it well for whatever we choose
that abundance to be. It's not just about us. We
have to create the invite and we've never been taught
to do that because we have been taught. We've been

(16:51):
raised in this control and greed and you have to
survive and sacrifice and that is actually given all of
our power away.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
That's a lot that I can see that being a
lot of work and overwhelming. So how how does someone
start on this path?

Speaker 3 (17:10):
Yeah, that's that's a great question. The reason that it
seems like a lot of work and overwhelming is because
we've been raised in a society where when you want
to bring something into your life. Let's say add it
into your life or get something. It is always associated
associated with sacrifice or productivity or something like that which

(17:34):
requires more of us when we are Let's go back
to Will feeling joy. When he is being the messenger
and he's feeling joy, he's not. It never enters his
mind that it's work.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Truth true, very true.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
So actually, if it feels like work, then there's two
things you can do. Look at the fact that but
that's really just a relationship you have already. You're sort
of stopping yourself. A lot of people avoid going down
a path because they're like, oh, that's too much work. Well,
we're kind of lazy. So there's that. And the second
thing is if it starts to become work, there is

(18:16):
something inauthentic in it, and you get to look at that.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
So what I heard you say, and I could be mistaken,
but I heard you say that has to do with
knowing yourself is a first step, right, knowing who you are,
Like you started the conversation with who are you? Will?
So should I take from that? The more I know
who I am, the better the flow is going to be.

(18:42):
So that that when I walk into the room knowing
who I am will automatically attract these opportunities, because the
reason why I ask is I didn't have an answer
for you. We have to run around a lot until
we found what we're talking about here, and lo and behold, yep,
I know who I am. I just didn't know who
I am right right, So perhaps my lack stems from

(19:07):
the fact that I don't truly am, not connected with
who I actually am.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Well, there's knowing who you are from a definition point,
and there's knowing who you are from a feeling point.
And when you know who you are from a feeling point,
when you walk in the room, everybody else knows who
you are too, and it's not because you've said anything,
it's because of who you are.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Like, I think we're a little bit different that way,
because I don't like when you're saying, you know, I'm
a producer, I'm all this. I don't. I can't define
myself well that way. But I think I know more
emotionally who I am than on the outside.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
You know, Karen, who are you?

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Well? I think so we talk a lot about love,
and I think I'm someone that expresses that a lot people.
People talk to me, they share their stories, we laugh
to we hug each other like we have that we
you know, have those bonds with people. So I think
that's I'm just I'm just someone who loves Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
So unfortunately that profession is not legal, so we have
to think about other stuff.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
But it can make a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Well, so what would you say something to Careen about that,
like would would she? I mean to me, what jumps
to mind is, well, it sounds like you are a
perfect counselor, right, someone that brings together people together.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
But I don't know, I've thought about that, but I
think I'm too much of an mpath. I think I
would just be devastated by the end of the day
every day. I would like suck in everyone's problems and
just be sad. Mm hmmm.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
Yeah, well this is this is really great. So so basically,
and you've probably talked about this, you know, here on
on the podcast anyways, but there's we're basically there's the
old paradigm and there's the new paradigm, right and we've
sort of like we were in the new paradigm, but
we're just kind of bridging the gap right now. So
just you know, building on what you just said. So

(21:06):
you know we're talking. You talked about, you know, a counselor.
But then maybe you know, you're too empathetic and you'd
be you know, at the end of the day, that
would be you know, a bit challenging. So that's a description,
and so that what happens is in the old world,
like you have your description, so you have what you
think a counselor is. When I hear it, I have

(21:27):
what I think of as counselor is. So I'm not
actually interacting with you. I'm interacting with the version of
you that I've put in my mind that is a counselor,
and you are interacting with the version of you that
you would see as a counselor. So it's actually just
us and us, right, So that what we're interacting with

(21:48):
in the old world is so flat and it is
such a yours and mine, because that's really the way
the setup that we've been living in. It's not because
it's wrong, it's just because that's what was being done then.
So in the new world, the way that we actually
can stay and exist in it, because we're always going
back and forth, is we must go beyond our definitions

(22:11):
because the language doesn't apply. And so even we have
to do this with ourselves first and foremost, because everything
starts within. So even you going, I could be this,
but then that feel that might make me feel like
this or this might affect me this way. So you
are moving yourself closer and further away, and closer and

(22:33):
further away. It's almost like you are having the conversation
with yourself, and it's a bit of like running around yourself.
If you go beyond that, and you can go really
vertical with this if you want, and you can say,
if I was going to die tomorrow and I was
sitting in front of someone, what do I want to
who am I? Then? And maybe you can answer that,

(22:56):
who are you?

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Then?

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Scared?

Speaker 1 (23:01):
You talk me awful, not.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Just of the actual dying part, not of the after,
like is it gonna hurt? Gosh? See that That's when
I would kind of go to those definitions. I'm a mother,
I'm a wife, I'm a daughter, I'm a sister.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
That's not what you are.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
I know, I know, but I think that's how I
would feel like I have to you know, you want
to say goodbye to your family or whatever, and I
would be in those roles with each different person to
say my goodbyes to them. So I don't I don't know,
and I don't know.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
And that's okay, that's okay. So so now what you
get to look at is you're running away from that answer.
And it's very justified because in this world, we're supposed
to care about all everybody else first. So it's it's
it's normal, it's natural. And all we're doing is we're
just learning how to walk a new path, and we

(23:56):
have to not judge the old path too, because then
that just pulls us right back into the old path.
You know. It's like with my attention is on, you know, oh,
that's not it. I'm not going to be in that
world anymore. Then I'm in that world. So it's just
something for you to look at that that you're that
you're moving away from it. Because actually Will went right
in there.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yay hahaha. Well this was way more of a counting
session I ever expected. So for the general person that's
listening to the show who's not with or Karen, what
would be the first step for them to find out
or to align themselves more with their frequency because everybody

(24:39):
needs or wants to be maybe not abundant. But but
like you mentioned money neutral, let's I guess that's define
that first. What do you mean by money neutral?

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Well, let me let me ask, because you said when
people want to know who they want to be, right,
So let's start with that and then i'll move that
into money neutrality. Okay, So I would say, a really
sort of hack easy way for someone to go, like,
how do I know who I want to be? And
this is just something that makes sense to me, is
like who can you absolutely not be?

Speaker 1 (25:16):
I think I found that during my existential crisis that
birth this show?

Speaker 3 (25:20):
Okay, good, good? So who can you absolutely not be?
Right now? It's it could look wonky, and it could
make no sense like it. In fact, if it makes
no sense, that's typically even better, right, So I'll just
leave it at that. When money neutrality is actually a
function of that, because everything here is it's just access points, right,

(25:43):
and so we're living in its parallel realities, and so
we're just drawing down whatever parallel reality we choose to
live in, and we're jumping timelines based on creating these
new versions of ourselves, which isn't really a new version
because it's just us and we're letting go of an
old version and it feels new. Money neutrality is avoid

(26:04):
and it's an opening. Have you ever been in front
of someone where they're just so mesmerizing or powerful or
magnetic that you're already thinking in your mind, how can
I get closer to this person? Or how can I
spend more time? Or And you can get to a
point where you don't even you don't even freaking I

(26:25):
don't care what they have to offer. I have to
be next to this person, right, So that's an example,
and we feel.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
That, Yeah, every morning'm gonna wake up there you go
next to her.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
So okay, so let's just take that, right, So like
we're deciding, So it's there's only there's only one energy
that is love. Love is the only energy that is
out there. We are exchanging our own love, which you
can call an energetic currency, and it's an exchange, and
it's a full circle. So it's not it's not just
the invite, it's actually giving two. So it's like it's

(26:58):
going out there and if you're if you're our ability
to receive money is diminished, then you can be giving, giving, giving, giving,
and you're not honoring the full circle. Right. Money neutrality
is when you're when you're balanced on both sides of it.
So we get to say what we're trading our energetic
currency for. We do that with our own belief system,

(27:19):
and we don't know that we're doing it. You see
this a lot in like cultures that are rooted in
you know, we care more about family and good food
and we don't need the money kind of thing. Right,
You see that, you see we don't, we don't need.
It's almost like there's a blot there's it's a cultural
norm to be poor because it's more embedded in a culture.

(27:44):
And we see opposite too, where it's a cultural norm
that money is so easy, it's just flowing everywhere. Again,
money is ones and zero's. We're not defining who people are.
We're giving examples here, right, So we could see that
the stop and flow of money, and it's based on
that that belief system. So money neutrality is you're in

(28:04):
that knowingness. You walk in the room, you don't you
don't have to think about money because the energy is
already being exchanged. If you want money, if you have
put it out there that yeah, I'm gonna orient myself
to be you know, I'm gonna have ten million dollars,
but it has to be that at ease, though it's not.

(28:25):
I'm frenzied I need to sign this deal so that
I can have ten million dollars. It's a okay, well
that's going to be here anyways, and I'm going to
walk in the room and I'm really enjoying talking to
this human being. You have to carry the energy of
the ten million dollars first, and it's all perfect because
you have to know you first.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
So then do you, I guess maybe consciously or subconsciously,
I'm not sure, make the decision that you want this
ten thousand dollars and then just ten million dollars and
then just kind of let it go.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
You can. It depends. It depends on your relationship with it.
If I've already made one hundred million last month, then
and I'm going to walk in the room and say, okay,
well I'm going to make ten million dollars. I mean,
it would be as easy as for me asking for,
you know, another glass of water. But if I've only
made ten thousand and I'm going in there, then it's

(29:22):
very very different. So that has to be decided by
the individual, and that's where we move away from money neutrality,
and that's where people really get stuck, especially when they
run spiritual businesses, because there's this whole correlation between spirituality
and money and all of that. And then people give
these rules, Okay, well you need to save ten percent,
you need to do this in your business, you need

(29:44):
to do that. Well, it's how do they know your
energetic currency? They don't.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Well, then I mean yeay, Also it sounds amazing. How
how does someone get to that point? Because we'll go
back to the counseling session for a second. We have
talked to a lot of people about you need to
feel the energy of it before you get there, right,

(30:12):
the you need to feel like you've already have it
in order for you to have it. But then other
people say, it's not really the money you want, it's
the feeling you get by having the money. That's what
you're going for. Is that feeling? So? And now, yes,
having that money neutrality, going into the room and saying
I'm going to make ten million dollars and actually bringing
that energy with you sounds wonderful, But subconsciously I might

(30:37):
be about to say something that's a little controversial. But
if I believe that we have been trained to live
in lack by design to keep.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Us keep the hamster wheel spent.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Yeah, to keep us dependent. Right, So there's a lot
of programming that is inside of each one of us
that we have to overcome to be able to bring
that ten million dollar energy to the table, to that conversation.
So let's talk specifically Karen and I because we can
be the stand ins for the audience right now if

(31:10):
we are and we are in a point where we're
not bringing that ten million dollar energy into the conversation
even though we want to, and we have done that
whole thing. Yep, it's coming, and we know it's coming.
We know it's coming, but something deep downside of the
same bood is it really right? So how you overcome

(31:31):
that little voice in your head that says, sure, we
need to take a quick pause, but we'd be right
back right after these messages. There. It's Will just stepping
in here for a second to ask you for a favor. See,
the main reason we do this show is to help
others in their spiritual awakening, and nothing makes us happier

(31:53):
than to hear or read messages from those that are
resonating with the messages we're sharing on the show. So
if you have a moment, we'd love for you to
contribute to the show by heading to Skepticmanaphysician dot com
and sending us a voicemail or an email, or if
you prefer, we love for you to leave us a
review on Apple Podcasts or any other podcasting platform that

(32:13):
supports them. Karen and I love hearing from those that
are moved to message us. It truly does fuel our passion.
You are the reason we do this show, and knowing
what you like and don't like, that's going to help
us craft the very best show we can so that
we can help raise the vibration of the planet together. Okay,
I've kept you from the interview long enough, so let's

(32:34):
get to it. Thanks for listening.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
I'm so glad you're asking this because I think you're right.
I think there's all these concepts that are thrown out there,
and there is accuracy because there's truth in everything. But
then I think we are ready for a bit more
of an advanced conversation about Okay, we've heard all this,
but like, how do we really like? Where's the rubber
meet the road here, which is what I'm understanding that
you're asking when you say how, it goes back to

(33:08):
how can you not? Because why would you ask for
something like it's already here. It's just that you haven't
chosen that you want it.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
But inside, because I've chosen it seventeen thousand times and
it's never been there even though I chose it.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
You've chosen it, but you've chosen it from your belief system. Now,
so let's just even go back to Okay, so you
have an amazing podcast. This I love it. It's incredible,
your dynamic everything. So you already are doing what you
said that you wanted to do. However, you really, honestly,

(33:53):
I don't even think that you're giving yourself the credit.
And so in that way, you haven't chosen what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
But there are metrics that we can follow that show
that we aren't there. Right, So we do feel the
show is fun and we have a great time, and
people like you come on the show, and people who
aren't even on the show tell us how wonderful the
show is, how much they enjoy it, But we can't
seem to get it in front of millions of people,

(34:22):
which is what we would need to do in order
to make this be our livelihood.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
Well, you can't because you're looking at what's not there
because you're looking at the metrics. So stop looking at
the metrics.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
But whatever doesn't get measured doesn't get done.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
Right, which world do you want to play in?

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Ah, there's the rub right, that's the three D world
that we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Right, how do you open the gate to the existential playground?

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Do you not? Is it? Is it just that we
shouldn't just don't care?

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Well, this goes back to, Okay, we're working with your
energetic currency. You just told me what you focus on
that's not there? That is a That's that to me,
that's a no brainer. You want to you want to
play in the universal world because that's where the millions
of people are. Then you have to let that go.
And so it becomes a game of self awareness first
and foremost. Now you know that you're like, okay, you

(35:09):
can look at the metrics. What you can't make meaning
out of the metrics. So you have to not look
at the metrics or you're going to make meaning out
of them because you're a human being, right, Sure, that's
step one. What comes up from you there? Though, because
all of this is all these answers have to be discovered.
That's another thing that people don't do. They want give
me the nine hundred and fifty steps right now so

(35:30):
I can make sure and measure myself with each one. No,
it doesn't work that way unless you can't go back
to the three D. So now what's coming up?

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Confusion? If if I don't look at the metrics, I
won't know whether we're on the right path.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
Really, I mean really, why not tell me that? Go
deeper on that. Why won't you know?

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Because metrics show you where, Okay, the show is being successful,
it is being well received, whereas what I'm hearing you
say is that we should be doing it for the
love of what we're doing versus Oh.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
No, I mean you're going to do something for the
love of it. Anyways, you don't need me to tell
you to do that, because that's what you're orienting the
way that you're orienting. What I'm saying is that if
you have ten things in front of you, and you
have already acknowledged that one of them is shining a
flashlight on what you don't have turn the flashlight off.

(36:32):
That's all I'm saying. Because there's other things that you
can look at. You have to choose from infinite possibility.
What are the indicators? What are the other indicators that
go beyond what everybody else looks at in the three
D world? Because that is pulling you more into it.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
I think I get it. I think I get it. Yes,
what I seek by Karen's look at confusion that she.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Does not, because then I would think, you know, you're
talking about the other indicators. So if you're looking at
other indicator, how's that different than looking as the metrics?
At the metrics as an indicator?

Speaker 3 (37:07):
Well, because then you get to discover what does that
indicator mean to you? Is that is that full of
more possibility? Because all you're doing. Think of this as
like you're going up the mountain. If I give you
a backpack and it's causing you to walk really really
really slow, and you're like, but no, I have to
carry this backpack. I'm not gonna make it. But then

(37:29):
this guy over here is like do do do doo
walking past you, and you don't know what metrics he's
looking at. All you know is he's walking past you.
So there's no truth. The only thing there is is
do you want the accelerated effortless path. That's what you're
looking for, and you can't find it in a metric
that's telling you that you're not doing it right. It's

(37:50):
not there. That metric is is devoid of anything for
you because of your relationship with it.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
So what's our metric?

Speaker 2 (37:58):
What's our metric.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
That?

Speaker 2 (38:03):
I don't know?

Speaker 1 (38:05):
What do you think those messages that we get from people?

Speaker 2 (38:08):
I was just going to say the reviews, but then
is that looking at.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Reviews, not the reviews, but the messages. But I mean, yeah,
we just got a voicemail today, seven second, seven second
voicemail that all it was was I really appreciate your show.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
MM.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
How did that make you feel?

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yea?

Speaker 1 (38:27):
So maybe I think that's what you're thinking about, what
you're talking.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
About, Yes, because there's something inside of that, right, And
even just I saw the look on your guys's face,
the energy between the two of you, the interaction, right,
bringing yourself back to that, right, there's something inside of that.
So let's just like, you know, throw darts against the wall,
who is that person? What if you now you've shared that, right?

(38:51):
So what you've done, you have you have actually expanded
that pod that energy, right, what else is going on
that is reflecting back to you? That is a signal
that is pulling you out there because there is some opportunity,
something that's going to happen in your life when you're
in an open state of being like that, that is

(39:13):
going to give you your next answer and your next
answer and your next answer.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
A New Reality TV is a streaming platform we launched
in January. Okay, that's out now. So is that what
you mean? Like?

Speaker 2 (39:26):
It?

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Don't?

Speaker 2 (39:26):
It is?

Speaker 3 (39:29):
Can you?

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Can?

Speaker 1 (39:30):
You?

Speaker 3 (39:30):
I mean that sounds like you've got something incredible to
give people, which goes exactly with who you are. What
am I going to get from that?

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Well? So the three D me says, it can be
a vocation, It could be a way for me to
take care of my family, to provide for my family.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
No, I'm saying, what am I going to get from
this amazing content that's sitting there that you're giving away
for free?

Speaker 1 (39:53):
What are you going to get or see?

Speaker 3 (39:56):
If I were to listen to it? Like I'm a listener?

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Uh So it's it's actually television, so you be able
to see and hear all these messages. It's really it's
it's a one place where everyone can go to find
their path, no matter what it is, because there's so
many different paths. It's a safe place for you to
go that you know you're not gonna be served any
fear based content. You're not going to feel like you're

(40:20):
being sold anything. You're going there specifically just to learn
to grow and to feel better about yourself and mankind.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Amazing. So if you carry just the energy of that,
you drop all the details we're drawn in, because then
you have given me an invite. You haven't told me
the stuff that's not relevant to me. You've given me

(40:49):
just and I'm like, whoa, Okay, wait, there's it's a
no brainer. Does is this kind of makeing sense? It
ends up being our responsibility to be aware of what
other people are wanting to receive. You know, when you
mentioned empathy, it's a flavor of that, so that we

(41:11):
can let go of the things that are bothering us
so that we think they're important and we are literally
that's service, Like you're in service if you have taken
if you have gone taken it to the level where
you're going to remove all the gunk that I don't
want to hear about, and you're just going to tell me.
And even said you love to be a storyteller. That's storytelling.

(41:31):
You're just storytelling with energetic currency, which is just sharing
and expressing you, which is actually connecting you. Money is
actually connection. People just can't stand the concept of that.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Do you get it?

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Why are you asking me?

Speaker 1 (41:47):
Because I think I get it. I think I think
I get it. Yeah, okay. So there's one thing that
puts a wrench into my thought processing all this, and
that is the need to feel secure, right, the need
to sock away one hundred thousand dollars in a bank

(42:08):
in case of right.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
From when we get old, well.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Not just when we get old. What if I lose
my job, what if the you know, the economy tanks,
what if whatever? Right if we lose our house?

Speaker 2 (42:22):
What what if we're definitely getting old?

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Yeah, yes, that's that's true. So and and I understand,
I do understand what you're saying, and I love what
you're saying, and it's it's going to go a long
way towards helping me. I can't speak for Karen, but
definitely me. But then the challenge that I run into

(42:46):
is Okay, when is when is one hundred thousand dollars?
Is that going to be enough? Or two hundred thousand
dollars is going to be enough? Or three hundred thousand
dollars is going to be enough? Because that's back to
the three D like you were talking about. So what
if your thought process is difficult to get out of
a I need this to feel secure? How does someone
get to that point? M?

Speaker 3 (43:07):
Yeah, So, I mean you've you don't know, right, And
I think you've already said that that you kind of
brought that up in the question right, You're not gonna
know is it one hundred thousand dollars? Is it? Is
it three hundred thousand dollars?

Speaker 1 (43:19):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Right?

Speaker 3 (43:20):
So if you know that you don't know, then what
you do is your standards are high enough again where
you're not going to place your attention on that. You go, oh,
I'm sweeping that away. I'm never going to ask myself
that again because there's no answer to that. I'm going
to take my attention instead and I'm going to look
at where is my where is my normal set point
with money right now? And what causes it to be

(43:41):
that way. So like if you know, if I ask people,
you know, is it is it difficult to make one
hundred dollars a month? Most people would be like, no,
that's easy, right. They don't think about it. Therefore, guess
what happens every month consistently is one hundred dollars a month. Now,
if you ask someone if they can make one hundred
thousand a month, for some people, that's like, no, I

(44:04):
have to do all this work, I don't have time.
I won't be able to be around the kids. Story, story, story, right,
It's all just energy. But that's fine. So what that
does is that tells us that your life, the way
that you live your life, your self expression of who
you are right now, does not support one hundred thousand
a month. That is completely okay because you live an

(44:27):
infinite possibility like everybody else. Do you really want that though?
I mean, if you really want that, then what you'll
do is you'll say, Okay, what choice am I going
to make? It all comes down to a choice. It's
no different. Do I really want steak for dinner? Am
I going to drive across town? Am I going to
get that? Am I going to put that into it? Yes,

(44:49):
I'm making the choice. Let's get in the car and go.
We make it so challenging and difficult. And anytime something's
challenging and in difficult, it's already outside of us. It's
not outside of you to go and drive and get
a stake across town.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Yeah, but aren't we now back in three D where
you have to put a certain amount of effort into
making that one hundred thousand a month.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
No, you're making the choice. So you make the choice. Okay,
I want one hundred thousand a month. Now, going back
to this thing where you talked about people talk about Okay,
you've got to create the feeling. Right when you think
about making one hundred thousand dollars a month, what feeling
naturally comes up in you?

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Freedom?

Speaker 3 (45:37):
Freedom, say, relaxation. Okay, So what then comes up with
you with what is that going to cost you?

Speaker 1 (45:52):
I don't know that I can answer that. I have
no idea how to make one hundred thousand dollars a month.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
Is going to I mean, what is it going to
cost you in your life? What are you going to
have to do different? Who are you going to have
to be that you're not? Right? Now? That's all that
matters because there is a parallel reality of a will
out there, that is, it's so easy to make one
hundred thousand dollars a month that he forgets to mention it,

(46:16):
Like what pull that down?

Speaker 1 (46:20):
I need that will to mention it to me. There's
not I could. I really have no idea how we
would do that at this present point in time. I
don't know that we are at that place where we
can actually even imagine how to go about doing that.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
But you already have talked about the million, the reaching millions,
and the expansion and all of that. Why is that
separate from making one hundred thousand a month?

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Got it?

Speaker 3 (46:45):
So then you pulled yourself back into the world of energy,
because what you did is you moved back towards everything
is one. So when you find yourself in categories and
going how and all of this, it's okay, But know
that you you're you're wandering out into the forest again.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
I'm just trying. I'm trying to picture this. I'm like,
so we want to reach millions, then how do we
do that? But and then doesn't that bring us back
into looking at the numbers and the metrics.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
Let me ask you this if you were in a
room right now, because it's easy to like picture this
maybe okay, if you were in like a room, it
don't have to be like a massive concert or something. Right,
and there were a million people around you right now.
It's dark, and they have their phones up or like
a lighter going or whatever, and they're cheering, and then

(47:42):
all of a sudden they get really quiet. What would
you say to them?

Speaker 2 (47:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
When you find that out, you can speak to them.
Can you see why you can't speak to them now?

Speaker 2 (47:55):
I don't know. I'm like, I'm like visioning this. They're
all really quiet. What would I say? But I can't
speak to them because they're not paying attention because they're
watching the concert and it's loud. So that's why I
can't speak to them.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
Or you just ran away, You just ran away, you
ran away.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
I mean I could speak to someone and maybe they
could pass.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
The words, unless you're the concert right, well, then they will.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
So you've got a million people just finished cheering you
on and you got quite and then waiting on your
next word. You're on stage, what do you say?

Speaker 2 (48:34):
I would tell them all just to love everybody as
much as they possibly can, because I say that all
the time. You know, that's like my thing. I just
try to She had the love, but I don't. I
don't know that that's necessarily what we're going for here.
What would you say to them?

Speaker 1 (48:50):
She didn't ask me, this is about you?

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Okay, so say that kind say say that, but say
it to me as if that's the last thing I'm
going to hear. How would you say it?

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Then? I would say, the most important thing I feel
like you should do in your heart is to have
love and show that kindness because it doesn't take any
true effort to be kind and to be loving, and
the simplest little word you can give to someone can
actually change their lives for the better.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
Wow. So I felt that, and I know you now.
You see the difference you gave us you in that moment,

(49:52):
and that is a magnetism that reaches millions.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
And by being that authentic you all the time, that's
the way to magnetize exactly money neutrality.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
Right, You take on the responsibility that that is your
effin standard, and your life will change so fast.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Okay, I get it now.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Okay, that's that's incredibly profound, Elizabeth. That is it took
us a long time to get there, but once we
got there, we got it started crying.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
I know, good, thank you, thank you, Because this is
a co creation, right, this is absolutely a from somewhere
else co creation with three of us and the energy
of the audience. I couldn't sider here and have this
conversation otherwise. Right. The the vulnerability, the accessibility, the willingness,

(50:53):
the love between the two of you, the dynamic, all
that you've set up, it's all an integral piece. And
when we start recognizing how important we actually are, then
we'll stop placing all the emphasis on everybody else and
we'll start giving ourselves permission to do these things.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
Damn, Mike dra was profoundly cow.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
All right, well, I'm looking at the time and I'm
dreading what I'm I'm gonna have to say. But before
before we go, can you give us an example of
someone that you have worked with that has taken this
to heart and change your lives for the better.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
Gosh, example, when you do you have anything in particular,
minds have so many different facets.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Like someone who perhaps came to you who needed some
help and you were able to get them to understand
what we you walked us through and then they change
our lives financially.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
Forgive, I would say something that I see kind of
a pattern that I see when people come in to
the spiritual investor or whatever, is when they're willing to
go vertical and let go, which, by the way, you guys,
you eat, you let go, you can feel that you
let go today right in order to let in. I

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see a shift within about two to three weeks of
where people start to have this feeling where they look
back on themselves because there actually is no time. We're
just pulling down a new version. We've all felt this
where we go along in life and maybe someone that
we knew before came into or comes into our life again,

(52:33):
and it's like they're talking about something that we used
to laugh about, but we can't talk about it anymore,
or like there's a type of food that we can't
eat anymore. We just can't do it. So that's when
you start to get that feeling you know that you've
actually jumped timelines. And when you know that, then that
becomes an access point and then whatever dream and goal

(52:55):
and wish someone has, they start pulling it in. At
that point, might have been a goal before that looked
like Okay, I want a new car, but like it
could be the same goal, but because they are a
new version of themselves, they have a different access to
that because basically their perception and their belief in their
self has changed. What will happen is they will start

(53:16):
to talk about that more freely because they'll start to
believe that it's in their life. Right. So, you know,
I have, you know, just recent example, just you know,
this week, a woman who she you know, she invests
a lot of money and in her investing accountant that
she decided that she wanted to buy a house and
she wanted to pay cash for it. Well, then she

(53:37):
got in the house and she thought she was going
to like the house, and she's like, I don't really
like the house, but I'm not going to put the
house back on the market. What do I really want?
So like she kept discovering what I really want, what
I really want? She just dropped a message in the
group this week, I decided I really just wanted to,
you know, take my son out of school for a
couple of weeks and just us just be able to

(53:58):
travel together. And I've book tickets for us to go
to Japan and here's a photo of us, and it's
this has changed my life. Right. So it's like you
get to know yourself, but you actually get to express
yourself in a different way. And so that abundance it
shows up in your life, in relationships, it shows up
in your She also got an offer from a crypto firm,

(54:20):
so she has a big job waiting for So it's
just like it starts to kind of blow your mind
a little bit, and if you let it blow your mind,
it won't slow you down.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
Cool. I love that. So talk to about the spiritual investor?
Is that is that? How does that work? If someone
wants to be part of it or work with you?
How does that work?

Speaker 3 (54:43):
Yeah, so it's three levels. There is a club level,
which is seventeen dollars a month. That's if anybody just
wants to start, you know, scratch the surface and go
deeper on this. Also, I teach people how to get
started investing, because that's a lot of what I do
is you learn to call money in. Well, you don't
want to keep having to go out there, and you know,
like we want to get away from the earned income

(55:04):
because that's the old model. How can you take money
and then start allowing money to expand for you. So
that's a really great place for people to start. Is
that is that is the club. If you want to
be you know, you want to learn a bit more
about investing, or you want to go into the actual
practices of all of this, we have advanced and that's

(55:25):
about two hundred dollars a month. And then if you
want to really go vertical, which this is, that's kind
of the gold standard. A lot of people they come
in and they want to do this. That's the that's
the Spiritual Investor Mastermind. And that's where I work with
you directly for twelve weeks. And I can't I mean,
you can imagine if we did this for twelve weeks, right,

(55:45):
It's like even your family doesn't know you at that point, right, wow?

Speaker 1 (55:53):
Right? And I think you were gracious enough to provide
an offer for those that are actually listening right now.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
I you know, I would love to invite all of
the listeners in to the Spiritual Investor Club for free
and just let them poke around, let them try it.
We've got stock picks for you. We've even got you know,
live calls in there where we do kind of things
like this, and you can put post questions and stuff,
so it's a discovery space.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
Very cool. Well, we're going to add that information to
our show notes. Thank you for that. That's incredible. If
you're listening to this right now, or you're watching this
right now and you want to experience it, then go
to our show notes to go to the description down below,
and you will see what you have to do to
access that special discount, that special offer that you're offering. So, Elizabeth,
I could talk to you for ever, or I should

(56:42):
say I could be counseled by you.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
For ever, to you for us right right.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
So you know, I think I have an idea of
maybe on a monthly basis, we can have a spiritual
investor give us like a stock tip, this month's stock tip, right,
just so we can get like a free counseling sessions. Time.
This has been wonderful. It certainly opened up my mind,

(57:11):
my eyes, and I think I've got a lot of
thinking to do.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
I know you think you're thinking in the right direction,
and you're like, what the hell?

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Yeah, I was like, what would I think it? For
God's sake, So if someone wanted to take advantage, we're
going to put that the information in the show notes.
But someone's to reach out to you specifically. Is that
the best place to go to connect with you?

Speaker 3 (57:33):
Well, they could listen to the Spiritual Investor podcast. That's
that's one. I would say Instagram though, just send me
a DM on Instagram. I answer all the questions. I'm
happy to help you. It's it's just my full name,
just Elizabeth Ralph. That you'll also learn a lot because
I put a lot of this stuff in little video.
So that's that's you know, it's kind of you can
pick your flavor on it.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
I guess very cool. Or we're going to add that
to those show notes as well so you can have
access to it. All you need to do is go
is keeptic in a position dot com, go to her
episode page and you'll see that those links lady in
there directly, so it's easy for you to access. You
don't have to hunt, and packets right there for you. Elizabeth,
thank you so much for being on the show. This
has been truly inspiring. I thank you, Yes, I thank

(58:12):
you for teaching us a thing or two. And we
look forward to seeing how this affects those that are
listening because it certainly affected us. I'm looking forward to
seeing what happens with anyone else too.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
God, thank you, And I just want to say that
if you weren't so incredible and open and like just
literally the vibration of love, there's no way this would
have happened. So thank you, thank.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
You, well, very kind of you to say thank you
so much. All right, thanks for being on the show.
We've talked again soon