How to Reverse Aging, Heal Faster, and Boost Energy Using Consciousness

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Care. Yes, remember when we thought that enlightenment just meant
drinking green juice and meditating until your leg fell asleep.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Well, I mean I kind of didn't think that, but yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Right, I thought ever already thought that.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Right.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Well, it turns out that we were thinking way too small.
Today's guest doesn't just talk about raising consciousness. She changes
people at the cellular level. Ooh ah, we're talking about
someone who can literally transform living organisms at the cellular.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Level, so your leg won't fall asleep.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
I hadn't thought about that. That's a good point. I
got to ask for it. But she also transforms non
living materials at the atomic level. Oh yeah, I'm talking
like I just changed the structure of matter with my
mind kind of stuff. Wow, interesting stuff, right. She's been
studied more than your browser history with a lot less judgment.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
Boy, with over six hundred and sixty peer reviewed studies
that show her divine blessings can spark real changes in health, happiness, and.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Even blood chemistry. Oh, get ready for the conversation that
might just flip your understanding of consciousness and your mitochondria
on its blissful little head. So if you ever wondered
what happens when you mix quantum mechanics, a spiritual master
and a lab coat. Will get ready because this might
be the first episode where listening could accidentally evolve. Oh DNA,

(01:27):
let's go meet that woman who's turning in skeptics to
spreadsheets and blowing the minds of scientists and souls are
like one atom at a time. This is a Skeptic Metaphysicians.
My name is Will, and I'mars, And unlike Boulder and Scully.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Both want to believe.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
So we've embarked in a journey of discovery.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and
metaphysical world.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even
joined a coven of witches.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
And wait, you joined a coven yep.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
All on the interest of finding something, anything that will
prove that there's something beyond this physical.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Three dimensional world.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
We all this is the Skeptic Metaphysicians. Hey there, I'm Will.
Welcome back to another cellular, moving, transformational episode of the

(02:22):
Skeptic Metaphysicians. Who today's guest is Darren Trevetti, an enlightened
master and internationally recognized spiritual leader who brings together science, consciousness,
and the divine in a way the view ever have
I didn't have enough hands not to use the hope not.

(02:42):
I should have checked that before I did that. Anyway,
she serves as a guide and force a Divine Connection International,
a nonprofit on a mission to improve the human condition
through scientifically validated divine blessings. Is this right up my alley?

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Or what?

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Alongside her husband and Guru Grugie Mahindra Trevetti And I
know I just butchered that name, and I'm so sorry.
She's spearheaded over six thousand scientific experiments, resulting in more
than six hundred and seventy peer reviewed publications, recognized by
top institutions like Harvard, MIT and Oxford.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Now, Darren's powerful divine blessings have reportedly helped thousands of
people optimize their lives, improve well being, and reach new
levels of joy and purpose. And whether she's speaking at
Nasdaq or being featured on major media platforms, she brings
irradiant clarity, humor, and a multi dimensional view of human
potential defies categorization. No more talking. Welcome to the show,

(03:41):
Darren Trevetti. How are you doing.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Today, I'm doing wonderful. It's hard to follow that introduction.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Is excited about being optimized.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
We've got a lot to unpack in what you do.
But let's set the table first and foremost. Consciousness. That
word has been thrown around like cotton candy all over
the place these days. Right, Can you help us to
wrap our heads around so we can set the conversation
on the right path. What is consciousness? Exactly?

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Absolutely? Well? A lot of spiritual leaders and a lot
of transformational leaders these days. You have like people like
Deepak Chopper and everybody who's talking about consciousness as a
fundamental reality of existence. And it's discussed in a way
that scientists, for example, believe consciousness is a byproduct of

(04:35):
the brain. Right, and then you have this spiritual side,
you know, that involves these transformational leaders and spiritual gurus
and everybody who suggests that consciousness is actually you know,
supersedes the mind, supersedes the brain. It's something by which
everything else is derived from. Right. So it's that you
could say that transcendental reality that all of us are

(04:56):
a part of. Right. It encompasses everything, it pervades everything,
it's a part of everything. And at the same time
it controls and governs everything. Now, unfortunately, there's been a
lot of talk about consciousness. There's been a lot of
theory and philosophy, but there hasn't been a lot of
proof regarding it. Right, That's why it's still very theoretical.

(05:16):
You have Max Plank, you know, quantum physicists who's like
the father of quantum physics, who said that, you know,
he considers consciousness as fundamental, right, and then the mind
and everything is derived from that plane of existence. So
for the first time, that's what we're doing, is we're
taking consciousness and we're putting it into a laboratory. We're

(05:37):
actually measuring it objectively through real data for the first time,
i'd say, and not just like you know those quantum
experiments where it's about you know, observing, and we're actually
doing hardcore objective data where we're measuring things like materials,
we're measuring agriculture, we're measuring you know, human parameters like
neurotransmitters and hormones. We're taking it clinically, right, We've actually

(06:02):
taken something that has been so hard to pin down
and measure for so long. And I'd say, for the
first time we're able to objectively pin it down and
show that it's actually something that has the power to
change our lives and the source of our lives itself.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Okay, this is exciting r How yeah, this is exciting,
right because you're talking my language in such a major way.
But every conversation that talks about science and metaphysics together
woefully fall short because science, right that the whole thing
about science is is you need to be able to
get measurable results in a repeated fashion, right, you have

(06:38):
to be able to repeat it. So metaphysics, that's a
tough n to crack, right, It's hard to measure something.
Measurable and repeatable results is what you have to get
for science. So how are is it that you are
taking this concept, which is consciousness is a metaphysical concept, right,

(07:00):
even though it is the underlying we believe, the underlying
thing of everything. So how can science measure and repeat
the results that gives you such a positive affirmation that yes,
this is legit?

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Or like I said, how.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
So when we're talking about consciousness, right, for so long
it's been limited to subjective experience, right, which is why
you know, science dismisses it because subjective experience. Right, that's
in the realm of psychology and placebo. Right. So we
have a lot of testimonials even you know, our organization
has a huge, vast number of testimonials from people claiming

(07:42):
extraordinary outcomes. But what we're actually doing, right, So we're
taking the power of consciousness. But what we see consciousness does,
if we understand it as like that fundamental reality, right,
we can also see it as kind of like a
force that program's existence into being. Right. So it controls
and operates your mind, It controls and operates your life.

(08:05):
It tells you know what a material will become, the
destiny of an atom, the destiny of a molecule, and
of a cell. Right, you even get to like the
cellular composition of our bodies right as newborns or even
before then, Right, every cell is the same. But somehow
there's a destiny that programs a cell and tells what
a cell will evolve and become and turn into. Right,

(08:27):
And that's something that science doesn't know. What tells the
cell what it will eventually become, But somehow the cell
has that inherent knowledge. It's similarly we see that in
materials right, where we see certain materials. Right. That's the
whole periodic table of elements is that materials have a
very specific set of you know, characteristics and behaviors, and

(08:47):
that is programmed in the atom itself and the composition
of those molecular structures. And that is not something science
has not found a way to change the atom. Right.
Science has found with a huge amount of energy, we
can destroy the atom. We can create atomic bombs, we
can create huge amount of you know, cataclysmic events when

(09:08):
we destroy when we apply huge amount of power. But
nothing has been able to change or transform an atom
and make it something different than what it already is.
So in order to change something that's already existing, right,
you change the programming of that thing. Then that thing
changes its character and behavior, it changes its potential. When

(09:28):
we're talking about human life, when we're looking at you know,
changing things at the level of consciousness, what do we
see for human life? We see mental clarity, we see peace,
we see better quality health, we see better relationships. Right,
we see all these things are ripple effects of when
you alter things at the consciousness level, that programming that

(09:49):
controls your life. Right, And then when you see things
at the level of agriculture, for example, you see greater vitality,
you see greater production, you see more yield, more immunity,
you see more shelf life without the use of any
of the conventional methods used to you know, produce these things, right,
without any wet side fungicide, chemical, fertilizer, any chemicals whatsoever.

(10:12):
Just literally soil, water, air in the sun and then
this divine energy that can change the consciousness. When you
see atoms, right, you see the molecular structure change, the
crystallized size change. You can make the atom bigger, you
can make it smaller. All of these are measurable. Right,
we have all the instruments used by NASA to measure
these changes in these materials, and we're able to actually

(10:33):
see and measure these changes.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Okay, that's super cool.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
So you can and I might have misunderstood, but you
can measure, you can see and quantify the changes the results, yes,
but not necessarily what's making the changes?

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Well, you make certain assumptions right that the said you put.
I guess we're going to talk about how these experiments
went in, Like what was the process that forced these
things to change? Because in the introduction we talked about
the fact that you can change things at the atomic level,
non living things, and then organic things at the cellular level.

(11:10):
So is it just like thinking good thoughts at it?

Speaker 3 (11:15):
It's a little more complicated than that. If everybody thoughts,
you know, we could probably do all these things about Oh,
wouldn't that be great?

Speaker 1 (11:23):
Right, Karen, I'm sorry those plants that that didn't make it. Yeah,
I had nothing to do with your good thoughts, I
promise anyway, I'm sorry. Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
So sure you had the best intention.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
He always does. Okay, So then how is it that
you are able to affect change in these things?

Speaker 3 (11:45):
So this is where we go into the realm of
enlightenment that concept. Okay, So enlightenment in a scientific you know,
kind of realm. We're referring to enlightenment as consciousness that
has to the consciousness of nature. So nature itself has
all these natural laws, right, that are kind of binding. Right,

(12:07):
you see that you cannot bypass these natural laws. And
some of those natural laws are like you know, the
laws of gravity, for example, or the laws like you know,
energy flows from a higher dimension to a lower dimension, right,
the laws of physics. These are all the laws of nature.
We could say, right, there's a strict set of parameters,
and you can't really go outside of those parameters.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Right.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
You have a certain for example, body temperature. Right, if
your body goes below that temperature. Above that temperature, you
enter into a comma. You could die. Right. There are
many complications when that arises. So nature keeps things in
order to maintain right, that existence. It keeps things very
strict and regulated. Now, that's the consciousness of nature, right,

(12:49):
that's the programming of nature itself. Enlightenment is when consciousness
of a human, for example, an individual is able to
transcend beyond the laws of natsnature. And that's when we
go into the realm of the divine. Right, because what
is beyond the laws of nature? What program the laws
of nature? That's where we go into the realm of
perhaps the creator, a divine force, a divine authority on

(13:11):
this planet. So enlightened consciousness. You can see the effects
of enlightened consciousness. When someone's reached that level, then through
their intention. That's when intention applies through their intention, through
their you know, desire, we can say, because they are
connected to that, you know, consciousness of the divine, then

(13:31):
their intention we just call it prayer. Right. So in
this regard, when we're doing these experiments, what we're doing
is we're praying over whatever we want, you know, the
consciousness to raise. So if for praying over a particular person,
we're requesting that God, this authority that has the ability
to change the laws of nature that created nature, so

(13:53):
can change it. We're requesting that God, you know, uplifts,
raises the consciousness of the recipient, and as a result
of raising that consciousness, that recipient has more of the
grace of God in their life. That recipient is able
to utilize this higher level of consciousness and live a
life of greater vitality, of greater wellness of you, all

(14:15):
these things that you see what happened when you change consciousness.
So we call it blessing, a prayer, a blessing, whatever
you want to call it. But this comes from enlightened consciousness.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Right, So, how do you select your subjects? Just asking
for a friend, how do you select me?

Speaker 2 (14:32):
I mean your subject.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Pretty much obviously teasing because we are incredibly blessed already.
But in case you need more subjects, you let us know, right,
So that sounds amazing, And I know that the work
that you and your husband are doing. Are is really
it's probably poised to change mankind honestly if people really
look at it in that way. I mean to have

(14:56):
this many peer reviewed studies and not by like Joe's
garage kind of things. Am I t Oxford, Harvard like
some of the bigger the big places that are verifying
these results. What has been their reaction to these results?
Are they going? You know, there must be something wrong

(15:16):
because traditionally scientists have had a difficult time with these
types of things.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
We get so many varied reactions a lot of it. Sometimes,
you know, no matter how much facts and data you
present to someone, there will always be a certain bias
that prevents that person from accepting the truth. So when
my husband first started, right, he's my guru. Right, he's
a girl from India. So when he first you know,

(15:44):
went through his own enlightenment, his own awakening, right, he
was wearing the saffron robes and you know, and all
of that, he was blessing people, because that's what you
do in India, right, you take the role of the guru.
And he's you know, performing that role. And but what
touches me deeply is his belief he says, one of
the worst sins you can commit is giving someone false hope.

(16:04):
And that started him on this, you know, venture of
determining because he's seeing all these false gurus and all
these people who take advantage of spirituality and the void
that science has in regards to authenticating And you know,
because when science can't get involved in the spiritual you
see a lot of corruption rises. You see a lot

(16:25):
of people taking advantage. You see a lot of pseudoscience,
you see a lot of scams. You see a lot
of people with good intention, but it's actually damaging and
hurting people. So he's like, I don't want this to
be limited to just people's psychologies. Even though he's seeing
these incredible results, right, And people started coming to him,
like these major producers, people from the Bollywood industry, politicians,

(16:47):
and he left all of that. He already had a
well established you know basis, this great reputation in India
and all these followers. And yet the same time he
left all that to pursue scientific validation. He could have
come to America and just you know, worn the saffron
robes and spatted some things from the Blahgabad Ghet I say,
this all the time. If you just know the Vedas

(17:09):
by any percentage and you, you know, utilize the power
of psychology, you could have a mass following and a
lot of people, you know, could give you a lot
of money, and they could you know, dedicate their lives
to you just on that alone. And instead he rejected
all of that, and he actually sought He's a first
you know, enlightened gurul I've ever seen or met who's

(17:30):
actually sought all of this rigorous scientific validation all the
way into material signs. I mean, can you imagine validating
material signs? Right? Psychology is easy. A lot of the
parameters that are used are using either very trivial parameters
that you've seen in a lot of clinical trials that
are on you know, very small, you know, groups of people.

(17:53):
It's usually for a very short amount of time. Or
it's usually measuring very trivial parameters like blood pressure, you know,
things like that, and over time, you can even associate
good things with smoking and your blood pressure if you
do it within a certain period of time. Right, It's
not a very credible and reputable scientific form of research,
which is why science has denied it for so long

(18:15):
and that's the source of all the problems you see today,
all the problems that are so prevalent among humanity, is
because we have denied, we have ignored why we're not
paying attention to this vital part of human life, of
human existence, of the existence of all of life. Really,
and when you deny the existence of consciousness and its

(18:36):
effect on quality of life and its effect on wellbeing,
you see things mental health crises. You see things like
chronic inflammation and chronic disease, things that medicine no longer
is capable of treating. That's where consciousness, we see has
actually able to target and treat and perform unprecedented outcomes
in even clinical trials where we have double blind, placible

(19:00):
controlled you know, randomized clinical trials that exclude all possibility
of placebo and psychological influence.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Wow, can you give us an example of one of
those trials where you just could not doubt the results?

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Yes, one of our most clinical trials. This was conducted
in twenty nineteen, and we had a large group of people.
I think it was close to hover one hundred and
twenty one hundred and twenty volunteers. And these are volunteers
that are completely random, right, it's a placebo controlled. So
we had three groups. We had the treated group, which

(19:35):
is the group that received the blessing. We had a
placebo control, which is a group that you know has
a sham healer, so someone who's pretending to do a blessing, right.
And then we have a control group that's not getting
any treatment whatsoever. Right. And even the investigators don't know
who's in what group. Everybody has a number, even we
don't know who's getting the blessing. We're literally like, for example,

(19:57):
this clinical trial, I'm sitting in Florida, right, and these
participants are all the way in India right at a
clinical laboratory, and I don't know who they are. I
don't know their names. I don't even really know what
they look like. And we're just told, you know, okay,
this is the group, and you know, I give the
blessing to the group. And then after a while we
have a ninety day period and one hundred eighty day

(20:17):
period where we measure the results. We measure over one
hundred and thirty blood parameters. So it's not just you know,
people reporting what they feel the differences, but we actually
are measuring things like neurotransmitters, hormones are measuring nutrient absorption. Right,
We're measuring things that most of the time psychological influence
has no power over or very minimal power over. And

(20:40):
then on top of that, our most significant research that
I really want to share with you is something called
the NIH Toolbox for Cognitive and Motor Function. Now, this
is something that scientists it's the gold standard for removing
all subjective data and just getting down to the hard
you know, facts of them matter. And so this gold

(21:01):
standard it's been utilized since twenty twelve by all clinicians,
anybody doing a clinical trial when they're testing a new
therapure drug, and usually it's just utilized to see if
there's any negative or adverse effects from treatments. It's never
been used to measure any positive or beneficial outcomes. It's
only there to gauge if there's some you know, radical

(21:24):
change in someone's cognitive behavior and say maybe we shouldn't,
you know, push for this treatment on the market.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Right.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Ours is the first study where we've seen around one
hundred percent improvement in every single parameter that we've tested
in the ANH Toolbox of Cognitive and Motor Function.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Can you repeat that for us please?

Speaker 3 (21:44):
Ours is the first clinical trial that has shown nearly
one hundred percent improvement in every single tested parameter from
the NIH toolbox for cognitive and motor function.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Okay, so that's what I thought. You said, Wow, that's
it outrageously, Like, how how is this not mainstream knowledge
by now?

Speaker 3 (22:09):
Well, we haven't done any marketing. We've literally we've spent
so much time and so much money. We're talking about
like millions and millions of dollars and so much time
and investment because we strongly believe that before marketing, we
really want to have a substantial basis of scientific fact
and data to properly tell people like this is what

(22:30):
the energy is capable of, this is what it can
do before we properly market it. And we definitely don't
want to make claims about anything related to human health
and wellness before we have several clinical trials under our
under our belt. So that's why we've been waiting.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
You are on the skeptic positions now, so we'll catch up.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Now we're sharing it with the world. Decades of science
research being shared now it's just incredible.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Holy caws.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
So you mentioned something that caught my attention and when
you said the sham healer. So there is a lot
of conversations out there about if indeed this is all
real and works the way you say, and I have
no reason to doubt whatsoever. But there's a conversation about
how everyone can heal themselves and raise their own consciousness

(23:21):
and things like that. Is that feasible or do you
need someone like your husband or you who are gurus
who can help to give the blessings? Do you need
someone to facilitate that?

Speaker 3 (23:36):
So I'll put it this way, It's very possible that
anybody can raise their consciousness on their own. I'm not
saying that's an impossibility, but I am saying that it's
very difficult. It's not an easy pass. It's kind of
like have you ever tried all these tricks and techniques
that are available out there are intended to raise consciousness,

(23:58):
to evolve your consciousness. And you see the amount of
outcomes that are out there, right, you see with the
amount of you know wellness, you know tricks and practices
that are out there, and the increasing you know productivity,
you see, the wellness industry is a trillion dollar industry.
So you see it's even actually more successful than the
pharmaceutical industry. That shows you how, you know, financially viable.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
That we're not getting any of that. Baby is wrong here.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
We're on the wrong side.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
So you see you right with this void of science
because all the pseudoscience is now raining rampant, right, there's
a huge market. But with this huge market and it's growing,
it's growing rapidly. But then at the same time you're
seeing another phenomenon where you're seeing mental health problems are
increasing as well. Yes, so if there is a viable
solution out there in wellness and all these other you know,

(24:52):
spiritual you know, techniques, methodologies, practices, tricks, you know that
are out there, then you would see that maybe this
number would be increasing. Maybe there would be one solution
instead of thousands or millions or billions, right, maybe there
would be something that would legitimately work and they would
you know, be you know, stick with someone, it would
really last. And instead, what we're seeing is the exact

(25:14):
opposite phenomenon now in the same way, right, we know
how difficult it is to change a habit, We know
how difficult it is to change things at the brain
and body level, and science knows this difficulty. Science still
can't comprehend and understand exactly what the brain is or
what the mind is. It still cannot map out one
human brain. It's still incapable of doing that. With all

(25:36):
the most sophisticated supercomputers all working together, it still can't
map out one human brain. So this is science is
a problem that science knows it has, right. And at
the same time, all that science can really do is treat,
you know, things on a chemical level within the brain
or a structural level within the body. Right, it's trying
all these different things, and we see that this is

(25:59):
like a bad you're taking medication, you're taking a lot
of these supplements or a lot of these things, and
you don't actually see a resolution of the root cause.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Right. So it's almost like Western medicine, which is just
treating the symptoms and not the cause. They just give
you another pill and you know, call me in the
morning kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
Right.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
So, Hi, we've been doing this show for a few
years now. We've spoken to hundreds of different people in
all sorts of different modalities, and you're giving us a
very scientific kind of overview or take on this which
is fantastic. How does that work along with the people
that are channelers and see angels and doctor dead people.

(26:42):
Is this something different? Is this same realm? Is this
something that can awaken that.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Would say, I would say this is something that's vastly
different from that. Okay, that's a misconception. A lot of
people get from us, is like that's you know, when
you're talking about what kind of actions do I get?
That's one of the reactions is like, oh, yeah, you know,
I do Ricky, or I have a reiki master in
my life, or you know, they put you in the
same category as those other things. But what sets us apart,

(27:11):
what makes what we're doing different is the data right right,
is how significant the data is. It's showing you that
this is something that is uniquely different in the outcome
that we're able to deliver, even just scientifically, but also
with all these testimonials we have from people. And so
when we get into the realm of consciousness, right, what

(27:32):
science is doing, it's treating things at the brain and
body level. But when we understand that consciousness is a
fundamental reality, then we understand we need to change things
at the consciousness level. There's no drug, there's no therapy,
there's no trick or technique that can influence consciousness. It's
the other way around. Consciousness can give you the most
out of whatever practice, trick, or technique you're using, but

(27:54):
the tricks and techniques themselves cannot give you more consciousness.
They cannot do more for your consciousness. It's the exact opposite.
And science has seen that same concept as energy flowing
from a higher dimension to a lower dimension. And so
I'll give an example on why I insist that this
is something that's very hard to do through tricks and techniques.

(28:17):
If you see all of our data, right, everything we've
done six thousand science experiments. Right, We've done it in
life sciences, material sciences, human health, clinical trials. Right, We've
done it on plants, agriculture, materials, metal, ceramics, polymers, and chemicals.
How many of these things use tricks and techniques or
practices to raise their consciousness?

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Zero?

Speaker 3 (28:39):
None of them. None of them have the influence of psychology,
and none of them have even necessarily a mind that
we can understand where they can utilize a practice or
technique to raise its consciousness and crank these fundamental changes
at the level of consciousness that can raise its productivity,
raise its efficiency, raise its benefits, its potential. All of

(28:59):
these things can change. But there's no trick or technique
applied these people in this clinical trial. Right, they're experiencing
things like closo protein. Have you heard of the closo protein?

Speaker 2 (29:12):
I have not.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
I have not either.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
So the clothoprotein is the best we can do to
measure anti aging results.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Right.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
So the more lengths of CLOTHO you have, or the
more CLOTHO you have, right, you can say, the more
vitality you have, right, the more longevity.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Right.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
So it's like the anti aging protein. So we use
it and you know blood parameters to measure you know,
how useful you are essentially or how much anti aging
has an effect.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Right, Which is why I never had anyone measure mind because.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Out of concern.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Yes it's very big concern. But anyway, please proceed.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
So science, even with al therapies and drunks, with the
best courses of action available, right, with the most you know,
validated approaches that science has come across. Right, with any
trick or drug that we have, we've been able to
increase CLOTHO by marginal percentages marginal Right in our clinical trial,

(30:16):
we've seen CLOTHO increase by over six hundred percent. Wow,
that is not possible with psychology. That is not possible
with placebo. That's not even possible with conventional therapies and drugs.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
So I need to wrap my head around this a
little bit because you're starting to blow my mind. So
this is just praying over somebody.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Well, I'll give you an idea of how this can
work for somebody who maybe doesn't have an enlightened teacher
in their life. You know that connection, right, that's the
easy I like to say, that's the easy and fast path.
That's what helped me on my path is I actually
had this awakening through my husband, who is my guru, right,

(31:04):
and so within a year after marrying him, I went
through my own enlightenment in twenty twelve. And that's how
I've been able to also, you know, do these blessings
that I'm also scientifically validating and now I'm his partner
in this mission to you know, prove the existence of
God and the power of that consciousness has over our lives,
so and then also use it to actually change lives.
We're not just theoretically talking about it. We're actually implementing it.

(31:27):
That's why we're focusing on producing you know, quality food
without harmful toxins and chemicals. We're actually trying to revolutionize
the agriculture industry. We're actually trying to create products and
things available for people. We have our own membership programs, right,
We're actually trying to implement and utilize this to transform
human life, the life on this planet, and address our
most pressing problems we see today. So, and that's what

(31:51):
you know, all of the memberships and everything are for
funding all the scientific research through our nonprofit organization. So,
but it's you know, a very expensive endeavor.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Oh, I can imagine. So quick question back about this
anti aging situation?

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Yes, yes, will it? Sorry, I get a little drouned,
I get so.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
She's a one track mine kind of Will it reverse
aging or will it just slow it down?

Speaker 3 (32:19):
Yeah? So sorry, I don't will it?

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Will it reverse aging or will it just slow it down?

Speaker 3 (32:27):
We've seen reverse sort of aging.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Oh I've lost her, I've lost her.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Will it? Will it reverse aging or will it just
slow it down?

Speaker 3 (32:44):
We've seen reverse sort of aging.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Oh, I've lost her, I've lost her.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
I'll give you an idea, right, So, for some people. Right,
we see like cartilage. Right, there's a phenomena where cartilage
starts to fuse at puberty. Right, we don't see growing
cartilage after puberty. Growing cartilage right as you're between your joints.
That is the lubrication. It helps you know your the

(33:13):
longevity of your joints, your mobility. Right, It's that's anti aging.
If you can grow an increased cartilage, that's anti aging. Right,
that's reversal of aging.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Actually.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
Yeah, and so we've seen in so many people who
receive this blessing, they actually start getting grown cartilage again.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Okay, we got to talk.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
These are really loud.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
I'm talking about my neck for my migrantes. Yeah, so
I've got spinal stenosis, and that means that the cartilage
has worn out and my discs are actually rubbing against
each other, which causes neck stiffness and then triggers migraines.
For me, I could use some new cartilage.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
You I think you too. I'm in agreement, I think, and.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
I'm thinking you might know. Guy, you know, is.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
There's something that could help with that absolutely? Like can you.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Target praying in certain areas or is it just like
an all over yah, I'm just I have so many questions.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
So when you're raising consciousness, it's you can also see
it as was through our prayer. Through this blessing, all
we're doing is connecting you to the God of your understanding. Right,
even if you don't believe in God. This works an
atheist too, So it's absence of belief. It works outside
of belief. It's an objective reality, not a subjective one.
So it doesn't require your belief for your faith. It

(34:34):
doesn't require you to adopt a certain faith. This is
something that works outside of that. So whatever your relationship
with is with God. Right, we can even just say
that pure consciousness, if you just want to consider God,
is just pure consciousness. Essentially, this blessing is acting as
a facilitator to deepen that connection, and it's through that connection, right. Essentially,

(34:55):
what's happening is you're harnessing more of the grace of
God into your life. And that presence, that authority, that
presence created you, that presence knows everything about you. Right,
It's this intelligent force. We've seen its intelligence in our
scientific studies. We've seen it give viability to health, these
sales well. At the same time, killing cancer cells. Right.

(35:16):
In pre clinical research, we've seen it has intelligence. It
knows what to do with crops, right. It is able
to raise beneficial bacteria in the soil buy up to
nine hundred percent and reduce harmful bacteria by as much
as six hundred percent. We've seen it's able to eliminate
pests and you know, harmful microbes that damage crops. But

(35:37):
at the same time, it gives life to those crops,
It enhances their immunity, it gives them greater yield. So
this energy is intelligent. We're not asking for anything specific
when we're doing these blessings. We're simply saying, you know, right,
raise the consciousness of whatever this recipient is, and that
intelligent energy knows what to do in your life.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Which could then avoid anything that's karmic that you're supposed
to be dealing with. Now, sorry, dude, but your cartilage
is gone, right, So because the conscious right right, I'm sorry,
what were you saying?

Speaker 3 (36:12):
I said, it's grace, it's.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Grace, right, So yeah, But then the question the underlying
thing that you're saying here, and it's it's beautiful stuff
that you're saying, but you keep talking about how you've
done this with agriculture and plants and things like that.
It sounds suspiciously like you're saying that these things actually
have consciousness.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
They did. Everything has consciousness. Everything, everything is consciousness.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Rocks and trees and everything.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
Consciousness is in the very atom itself, and the atom
composes everything.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Got it. So it's like universal consciousness.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Yes, that's God, right, universal consciousness.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
So you are then raising the amount I get it, now,
raising the amount of God inside something?

Speaker 3 (37:03):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Oh, and then that makes them or that thing raise
its vitality because now they have more grace of God
inside them.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Yes, it's like the involution of consciousness into that thing.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
I got it.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
Yeah, exactly, you got it.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Okay. So so back to the question about whether I mean,
there's only Tulia, right, and there's eight billion of us
out here, so and plus the agriculture and the plants
and all that kind of stuff. Is this something that
you can teach someone or you can you can help
them to become enlightened so that they can then help
spread these blessings or are you guys can be really tired?

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Well, we we have. One of the things that we're
doing is because you know, obviously there is only there's
actually three of us now, but.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Oh okay, well still threes a lot of work.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Well, but that also shows you that it's not just
one person. It's not like a special, one kind of
person that can do this, right. It's something that anybody
has the capacity and the potential to be able to do. Right.
Anybody has the ability to raise their consciousness to the
point of becoming enlightened, right to becoming a conduit of
this grace of God, so to speak. Right, So it's

(38:20):
not limited to one individual or even necessarily like a
special you know, karmic you know, arrangement or anything like that.
It's what I like to say is because a lot
of people do have that question. Is if I don't
have an enlightened teacher, I don't have a grow in
my life, how can I raise my own consciousness? And

(38:41):
there's a concept called conductivity and conductivity right, that's where
we get into like you know, when things are a
super conductor, right, that means their ability to channel and
harness energy is far superior than something that's a poor conductor.
So like for electricity, we have like superconductors, we have
things like you know, metals, or we have things that

(39:01):
are you know, like water, right, really good conductors of
electrical energy, and then we have poor conductors like rubber
or like wood, things like that are not as good conductors.
So when we're going into consciousness, a human who is
a good conductor for higher levels of consciousness more of
the grace of God. We're talking about. What we call

(39:24):
conductivity is just purity. It's purity of mind, purity of heart.
It's morality and ethics that are aligned with the divine.
What the divine not just what society considers to be
moral and ethical, but what the Divine considers to be
moral and ethical. We call it the divine principles and fundamentals.

(39:45):
So that's you know, that's love, that's compassion, that's sacrifice,
that's empathy. Right. These qualities automatically improve your conductivity. They
allow you to be able to raise your consciousness right,
your ability to embody at easy. These characters is your
own level of conductivity and your own grace of God
in your life. And when these characters are not there,

(40:07):
they're not present in a person, they are poor conductors,
and you see, they have usually more suffering. It comes
with a host of other proms add ADHD, mental restinances, depression, sadness.
These are all signs of poor conductivity, where we can
say just a lower state of consciousness. And we're not
saying that this is a bad person. I like to

(40:28):
say they're just off the path. They're not on the
right track, right, They've gotten confused, right, they don't really know,
you know, what to do in their lives. A lot
of their nurturing is poor because, let's face it, there
isn't really a comprehensive place we can turn to to
learn about consciousness or to learn about this research because

(40:48):
we've rejected this idea. Even scientists don't really accept consciousness
as like part of mainstream science yet because it's such
a you know, an intangible thing up until now anyway.
And so I have a feeling a lot of people
simply through their nurturing, they kind of get pulled off
the path. They get pulled away from their own natural innocence.

(41:11):
It's your own inherent blueprint, is that purity and that innocence.
It's when you're a child, you naturally have that purity
and that innocence, and as you grow up, as you
go through the different experiences of life, as you face
trauma as you know, deal with different you know issues.
As you learn different ways to get what you need
that might not necessarily be the corrector appropriate way, right,

(41:33):
you start to kind of devolve or disorganize consciousness in
a way that makes you a poor conductor.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Right. So it's almost like a tuning fork, right, and
you're using different things like love and compassion to get
yourself more aligned with these conductivity frequencies. I guess, for
lack of a better.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
Term, is there a path going be a good way
to see it? Ye?

Speaker 1 (41:55):
For this mind, it works really well. But so is
there a place that someone can find these divine principles
or they just understood?

Speaker 3 (42:05):
So I truly believe this is a big role that
the Guru plays in everybody's life. A lot of people say,
we're past the role of the Guru. And while I
do believe, and I do know that all knowledge right,
all right, your greatest inner guidance is within you, right,
the greatest guidance, the greatest teacher. You are, your own guru.

(42:26):
But at the same time, to get to that point
where you're in tune with that, where you can feel
it and understand it and know right, A lot of
people think they're even following their intuition, and they're just
following their desires that are misguided, and they think it's
their intuition, and that's what leads to delays and frustration
and unexpected outcomes and pain and suffering. Intuition doesn't do that.
Intuition always leads you to the highest, best possible outcome

(42:49):
in your life. Right, So there's a lot of confusion,
mental confusion, spiritual confusion, and a lot of people don't
know what the best route or past to go is
so disconnected from that divine presence, from that own guidance
system within them that puts them on that correct path
or tells them exactly what to do. And they've been

(43:10):
told by so many people what the right thing to
do is without ever feeling that for themselves. You're never
taught as a child how to feel out truth for yourself.
You're always taught what truth is, You're always told what
to believe. You never get to really figure out what
that actually means. You never get to question the system.

(43:30):
You're already placed into the system itself. So this is
kind of like going back to even questioning the system,
questioning the nature of things going back to the root
of everything and questioning even where that comes from. Right,
So the Guru is like a surrogate. They're like a
jumper cable that helps re establish that foundation within your

(43:52):
own being to make you allow you to feel the
soul again. I like to say the soul is like
this diamond, and all of our past experiences is like
this ice that starts to coat this diamond, and it
prevents you from being able to feel that and receive
that guidance and this light. What these blessings too, is
not only does the guidance, so the Guru help align

(44:14):
you with the divine principles and fundamentals again, and the more
you follow them, the more you are receptive and start
to feel them yourself, start to feel truth for yourself.
But also these blessings help melt away that ice. They
help actually dissolve, right that old conditioning and those old
layers of belief and ways of being, and they kind

(44:34):
of reconnect you with that divine presence and then from
that everything flows.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
So I want to kind of go back to these
these tests that you did when the people receive the blessings,
and let's just talk about the ones that actually got
the blessings. Was it just a one time blessing or
was it like daily for a month? And did they
have to do anything to continue with that?

Speaker 3 (44:59):
No, said they didn't even know they were getting the blessing, right,
Oh okay, so they.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Have no idea they could have been the control group group.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Well that's true, that's true. Yeah, okay. And how many
blessing did you said? Was it too?

Speaker 3 (45:13):
Just two blessings? So one at ninety days and one sorry,
one at day zero and one at ninety days, and
we measured at one hundred and eighty days. We measured
ninety days and one hundred eighty days, and then the
baseline was at zero days to see where they start
off with. And then we're comparing that with a placebo, right,
people who think they're getting something but aren't actually and
so we're eliminating psychology through that. And then we have

(45:35):
the control people who are not getting anything. So then
when you Matt with a test, but when you perform
these blessings on someone, are the blessing? Do they and
they should follow these ways of life? You know, the
compassion and love?

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Do they have to consciously like think, okay, I need
to act this way in order to keep the blessing
or do they just begin to act a little differently.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
So in this case, these people that are part of
the clinical trial, right, since they didn't receive this you know,
knowledge that they're getting the blessings, there was no education
or you know learning in terms of the divine principles, fundamentals,
how to you know, be a good conductor, all these things.
They simply received this outcome just by receiving the blessing itself.

(46:23):
And is it permanent? Yeah, wow, I mean as far
as we've measured, they've maintained the results. So but of
course we like to say, right, there's a difference between
short term benefits and long term results, and that is
obviously how you conduct yourself in your life, right if
you really want to prolong write the length of this

(46:44):
either we have people who but we still have people
even today. All of our clients have come to us
from like twenty nine to ten and eleven, and they've
stayed with us since then without any marketing because for
them this is life, right, They feel a difference even
if there is a moment where one of our clients
leaves for like maybe a few months or a year,
they always come right back because they feel a huge,

(47:07):
massive difference in their life receiving the blessing versus not
And so this is really like a just like a
supercharged way to accomplish the things that you want to accomplish,
well being, to accomplish a better quality of life right
with a lot less effort.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
So when you talk about clients, I'd love to understand
a little bit. What is a client to you?

Speaker 3 (47:32):
What?

Speaker 1 (47:32):
What are they receiving? What are they seeking when they
come to you?

Speaker 3 (47:39):
So they come to us for every reason. So we
our clients are people who are part of our membership.
So they attend workshops, say, but most of the time
it's just like they attend blessings. They receive these blessings
and there's nothing they have to do to receive the blessings,
the blessings from our side. They just live their lives
normally and then they receive this energy and if they

(48:00):
really want to, you know, see greater improvements in their
own lives than you know, purity, innocence, the qualities of
following the divine principles and fundamentals or some people, you know,
we have people who don't even do that, but they
still receive the outcomes because they just keep getting more blessings.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
Right, quantity instead of quality, got it, exactly.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
So we did have people like that as well, And
you know that's a little harder to teach. It's it
really has to come from within the desire to change
and grow become a better human being. But you get
the benefits. So I don't know why you wouldn't want to.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Right, right, Right, So then a client is someone that
joins your membership and gets to membership with you, and
then on a regular basis interacts with you or you
been or I guess it's the third person now or
is there a larger group of people that help you
with this?

Speaker 3 (48:49):
No, it's the blessings come from my husband or myself, Okay.
And so these clients they come to us for any
type of reason, right. We've had clients come to us
for you know, physical proper right huge you know, chronic
illnesses and things that science. They've tried every avenue of
science available, every you know, trick, technique, modality, they've tried
alternative complementary therapies as well as conventional medicine and therapies,

(49:13):
and they've found no outcome or very minimal outcome, and
they found more outcome with these blessings than any other
pair area of their life. We've even seen people with
chronic illnesses completely disappear with these blessings. I don't want
to make a claim, but that does happen, right, And
so we can't really say for sure what will go
and what won't because it's you and divine, But we

(49:36):
have seen that happen. We've seen people with severe mental
health problems. We've seen people with ADHD come for you know,
better help. We've seen people with depression, anxiety. I'd say
we actually get a majority of the people suffering from
those issues, emotional trauma, things like that, and they receive
huge benefits from this energy. And we see people also
suffering financially or in their relationships. Right with my own mother,

(50:00):
reason I ended up finding out about Gurjee is she
had a huge right my mother. She's very open. She
tried everything, She explored every avenue. She's very kind of
like hippie like almost without the drugs. She's like open
to everything. She also very religious, so she's a Christian woman,
but she's also very open minded, so she tried all
these healing medalities anything you could think of. And I

(50:21):
always kind of went along with her and kind of
enjoyed the experience. It was kind of fun for me too.
But she was always looking for a resolution between her
and my brother and Oswal's her you know, my father,
her husband, but especially my brother. They always had kind
of a rocky relationship. There was a lot of fighting throughout,
you know, all of my you know, childhood between the

(50:44):
two of them, and they always had this huge problem
with each other that never seemed to have any resolution
no matter what they tried. We even tried counseling and therapy.
Nothing seemed to really resolve this. And she heard about
Gurjee and the fact that he's doing all the science
and was like, well, this is automatically is different from
anything else. And she went and received a blessing, and

(51:04):
I kid you not. She said, after one blessing, everything
changed one eighty degrees. It flipped from one thing to
the other, and now they have quite a harmonious relationship.
And she said, nothing else has been able to do that,
nothing else has achieved that before.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
Wow. Yeah, okay, I'm sold. So if I want to
be part of your membership and I do, what's the
best way for someone to start that process.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
So just visit our website, divineconnection dot org and we
have everything there. We have the memberships available there if
you even just want to sign up for our mailing
list and stay in the know, you know, learn about
all our new scientific research that's coming out. We're also
starting food products, which I'd like to share with you
a little bit because yeah, well we recently actually have

(51:51):
a study, a research experiment that just resulted in a publication,
peer reviewed publication, and it's on a chicken and poultry
experiment where we're testing because we want to produce you
know products, you know, food and things that are available
for people right who maybe you know, can't sign up
for a blessing and all that, or maybe are hesitant,
they don't really want to do the blessing, you know,

(52:12):
it's like that skeptical mindset. Sure, and so, but at
the same time, you know, they'll eat a good valued product.
They'll eat something that you know is leagues above all
the others. They'll eat you know, organic, or they'll eat
you know, something that will make their health better, right
without even knowing that there's a blessing involved in it.
And that's what we're doing. We're bypassing the skeptics or

(52:33):
people who are resistant who want to go don't even
want to go any further the moment they hear God
and consciousness and blessings by creating these food products that
have this huge alteration and not only their quality and
their quantity. Right, we see you know, changes in like
polyunsaturated fatty acids, mono unsaturated fatty acids, MUFFA and PUFA.

(52:56):
We've seen huge increments in that. I think it was
like by over one hundred percent for each one, which
is you know, incredible for eggs and poultry. And we
see like you know, improvements in collagen and zinc, right,
more minerals and more vitamins, and as well as that
people report. Like in our science experiment, we have people

(53:16):
who you know, are testing the sensory evaluation of the
products as well, and there's a huge difference just in
the taste, the smell, the texture, everything that's incomparable to
even the best quality conventional products we have on the market. Right.
These eggs, for example, they're creamier, they taste better, They
people who have allergies can actually eat these eggs. Right,

(53:39):
we have huge differences in our quality of products. So
it's like a way for people to get this energy,
get these divine blessings without even knowing it, just by
consuming these products.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
So it's like the spoonful of sugar. It make some
medicine go down, poonful of exactly medicine. Am wow, so amazing.
So you can find all that stuff there on your
website then, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
And even do you have like a quick five minute.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
Story, Yeah, totally go for it.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
I'd love to share this with you. It's actually my
personal assistant. She's actually sitting in the room with me.
So she's a lawyer. You know, she studied at Northwestern University.
She's also a CPA, so she's you know, highly educated
and she's very successful. Where did you work You worked
at Deloitte and you know, in a large law broom

(54:30):
and a large law firm in Chicago, So you know,
she has a huge, you know, incredible background, and you
can imagine she's now working as my personal assistant. So
I have, we know, that incredible overqualified personal assistant. She
says it's the best job she's ever had. I can't compare.
But the reason why she's here is essentially her story.

(54:54):
It's okay if I share, right, Okay, I won't share
her name, but I'll just share her story is that
when she met us, it was around nineteen years of
age where she's suffering from huge problems with Crohn's disease. Right,
So you know, that huge inflammatory like autoimmune disease, and
essentially it got to the point it got so bad

(55:14):
that she had her colon removed, right, And so you
can imagine what it's like to live without a colon, right.
And she she's living, you know, at that point in
time before coming to us, she's using the bathroom like
maybe you know, twenty thirty times a day. It was
always urgent, you know, and she, you know, traveling everything

(55:35):
was very stressful because you know, you obviously, you know,
need a bathroom near you. You always need to be
able to you know, have that in mind, always thinking
about that all the time. And on top of that,
you know, a huge number of serotonin, right, is actually
produced in the colon in the gut, and so that
was removed as well, So you can imagine huge amount
of depression and anxiety and stress. Right. And on top

(55:58):
of that, none of the drugs were working, None of
the you know, immune suppressants. You know, none of these
drugs that are supposed to help with this you know,
chronic problem, we're actually doing anything for her. So she's living,
you know, with huge pain and suffering constantly in and
out of the hospital because she's always having these infections
and these problems where she has to go in and

(56:18):
get another surgery, get another treatment to you know, treat
this new development, a new you know, infection that's occurred.
So incredible amount of pain, incredible amount of suffering, always
you know, urgently needing the bathroom, miserable. Quality of life sucks.
It's so bad. And what's happened after receiving these blessings

(56:38):
is that, I mean, not only is she happy, right,
she's very happy and content in your life. She said
she felt like she didn't know happiness was even a thing.
She didn't think happiness was even possible for her. And
she's happy for the first time in her life. And
on top of that, right, without a colon, right, you
can imagine your nutrient absorption and everything's very poor as well,

(57:00):
because you know, a lot of vitamins and minerals are
absorbed through your digestive system, through you know the colon
and through your intestines. And so she's missing a lot
of nutrients and a poor quality of life. And now
she's using the bathroom maybe three to five times a day,
only three to five times a day. She has no
storage system and she's only using the bathroom three to

(57:22):
five times a day. Her quality of life is improved,
her health has improved. She's absolutely on zero drugs, right,
zero pharmaceutical drugs, not taking anything whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
Right, her health, her quality of sleep right, or the
quality of her skin, her hair, her nails, you can
tell that she's you know, taking in more nutrients. All
her blood tests are coming back perfect every time. Right.
She is living a new level of wellness that she
didn't even conceive could happen for her before she's forty.

(57:54):
If you look at the photos of her from years ago,
before meeting us, she looks older than than she does now.
So you're talking about reversal of aging. She actually looks
younger now.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Okay, so I'm in Yeah, I have thyroid issues.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
I would love to get off those pills.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
That's true.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
The CEO of our organization, right, she's helping Gurgee run
the company and everything like that, right, it's my husband's
company and she's helping run it. And she actually had
Graves disease, so she had her thyroid irradiated before meeting Gurgey.
And so you can imagine, right, your bone density and
you know, call everything is affected, your hormones, all these

(58:31):
things is a cascade of problems throughout your life. And
before even meeting Gurgey for the first time, right, she
had a huge issue with her spine psiatic nerve pain.
She just you know, had a newborn at that time,
you know, a toddler that she's taking care of as
well as her mother who's you know, suffering from terminal
cancer at that time, and so all these huge problems.

(58:52):
She can't bend down and play with her child, that's
how bad the pain is. And she's only sleeping like
a few hours a night because she's taking care of
both people, and so you know, she's exhausted all the
time and everything. After just one blessing and it was
just a phone call she heard from a friend, right
that you know, she heard about Gurgey through her and
she ended up attending this you know, group session where

(59:15):
she got one blessing and then she laid down to
sleep that night. She woke up, she thought she had
slept all night long. She thought she had slept for
like twelve hours. She woke up feeling completely refreshed, and
she checked the time. It was only four hours.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (59:30):
Wow. It was a connection that she ended up finding
out about, you know, gurgee. But on top of that,
once she got up, right, she found that she had
no nerve pain, no back pain.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
Yeah I'm good now, Yes, she's in.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
She's in.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
It hasn't returned since.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
On top of that, her thyroid. Right, without a thyroid,
you're not producing any thyroid hormones, right, and so you
know another competit, you're going to have to live on
thyroid medication for the rest of your life. Well, recently,
she just had some blood work done and she's meeting
with you know, one of her doctors, and they actually
have to reduce her thyroid medication from one eighty I

(01:00:14):
think is milligrams or micrograms to like one hundred and
twenty because she's producing some syroid hormones on her own.
And so science says like sometimes there are different organs
and different you know, parts of the body that will
start compensating, right, you see the brain. When some part
of the brain is damaged, other brands will compensate for
that part of the brain that's damaged. Well, we start

(01:00:36):
to see like other glands and other you know, things
that produce hormones will start taking over for what's lacking
or missing. And this energy has helped facilitate that to
allow whatever is producing that thyroid hormone to help give
her that thyroid hormone. So now she can reduce all
of her medications.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
So then this could possibly help with a hot topic
these days, not just because I'm going through it, but with.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
The head cause yeah, oh absolutely, we have huge improvements
with menstrual health and menopause.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Yeah, okay, so what about the guys, like, what can
it help?

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
What can it help bossweight, low t prospering for guys, right, right,
Not that I would know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
The testosterone, Yeah, testosterone, it definitely. We've seen huge improvements
in our clinical trials with like testosterone, estrogen, we've seen
huge improvements with We've seen even oxytocin, right, which is
for you know, both sexes. We've seen you know, I
think I don't know exactly how much you can get
through directly administering oxytocin. But it's like, you know, I

(01:01:33):
think under one hundred percent and we've seen I think
it was almost four hundred percent improvement in oxytocin with
that administering oxygen it was between two hundred or four
hundred percent. I don't want to give the wrong number,
but sure.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
Now, will it give me a six pack because I'm
really that's really what I need.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
That requires some effort as well, but it can help
make the process easier. It'll make it easier, it'll give
you the motivation, it'll inspire you, it'll they'll give you
the energy. But also it'll it'll make it easier for
you to be able to shed those pounds and gain
that muscle, okay, because you're absorbing protein and yeah, more
more cartilage and faster, longer. And we have a special offer.

(01:02:15):
I don't know if you want to even mention that
here or not.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
But let's mention it by all means, let's go for it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
Yeah, So we have a special offer at Divine connection
dot org forward slash Skeptic Metaphysicians and you can it's
just for people who are signing up for you know,
through your podcast. So it's a very limited time offer.
We have people who can receive either two blessings from
my husband from Gurdgey or two blessings from myself, and

(01:02:41):
we have it's it's at a huge discounted offer. So
we have usually two blessings from my husband around five
hundred dollars and we're offering them for only two hundred,
and then from myself they're four hundred dollars and we're
offering them for only one hundred and fifty. So you
know and and try it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
That's amazing. Okay. So so not only are we going
to put your website on there, we're going to add
a direct link in our show notes for that amazingly
generous offer. Thank you so much for that. And so
if you are interested in connecting with Darren or Guruji,
then just go to Skeptic memphosition dot com, go to
the episode her episode, go to her show notes, and

(01:03:19):
you'll find that link directly laid in there. So it's
easy for you to connect with them by using the
Skeptic Metaphysicians part of their website, which I'm really happy that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Yes, well, you have to remember it is for a
limited time.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
It is for limited time.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
It's limited off for one per person.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
Right, limited availability, so it's not like you know, don't
don't take advantage, don't be a drunk. You know you
heard it here. Go to Skeptic metiphysician dot com. Go
to her episode page, find that link in the show notes.
You do not want to miss this. This is this
is amazing. It sounds crift, It is credible, absolutely absolutely
a huge gift. And please think Guji on our behalf

(01:03:59):
as well, because what you guys are doing for the
world is sounding and you can tell that it comes
from a really amazing place and we need to get
this out there farm wide. So thank you so much,
thank you so much for your time.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
Thank you for having me. Thank you. I'm truly happy.
You're such wonderful hosts. I enjoyed every second of it.
And come on anytime you want.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
Me to be happy to you know what, We're going
to take you up on it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
Absolutely so, I'd love to be on again. I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Count on it. We'll talk.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
We just scratched the surface. There's so much more to
talk about.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
Then let's make sure we do that. So we sign
up on this. You got the pat I do. I
got it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
This is.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
Mind blowing. Thank you, thank you for coming on and
opening up our eyes. I can't wait to try for
myself and hits. What we'll do is we'll do it.
We'll do it, and then we'll have you back and
we'll talk about how our experience was.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
Are you going to try it? No, let me talk
to my husband about it. I'll tell them all about it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
Yeah, no question, We're definitely gonna do it, and we'll
have you back on and talk about the what we've experienced,
because I think that's that would be amazing. It would be
incredible if it can make me look like Brad Pitt.
I'm all in. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
I just want to not hurt. I just want to
not ache, you know, wake up in the morning. What
hurts today?

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
You know what hurts is that she right give me
like this all like fat chance. Look, I said, that's okay,
that hurt.

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
But okay, you can edit that. You can be like.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
Contact right, AI does of all kinds of wonderful things.
I could forgut all right, darn. Thank you so so
much for coming on the show.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
It was a pleasure you. I enjoyed us so much.
Thank you so much. You're you're both so wonderful and
so kind and so funny, and you're just so positive
and lovely. I love you both well, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
It's right back at you.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
Thank you.

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