Spiritual Awakening: 3 Shadow Work Secrets for Real Awakening

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Karen, yes, I need you to brace yourself. Oh, I thought you just needed me.

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That's how happy they're from that too. You know, I need you. I've always
injured. All right, I'm brace. Well, I need your brace yourself because today we're
talking to a man who is out here breaking the spiritual internet. Okay. You know how
almost every guest we've ever had has told us to stay high, protect your energy,
only think positive thoughts, avoid the shadow, never look at your bank account on a

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Tuesday, whatever the rule of the week is. Yeah. Yeah. Throw this all out the window.
Apparently, we've been doing spirituality backwards. Well, that would explain a lot.
This is the guy who looked at the whole good vibes, only movement, and it went adorable.
Also incorrect. He says, you're low vibration, you're messy emotions, you're rain,

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cloud days, you're inner gremlin that shows up when you forget to eat, and someone parks in your spot.
Yeah, you that is your superpower. I feel so see. I mean, finally,
someone validating our entire personality. His work isn't about bypassing sugar coating or
pretending that we're all enlightened, forced nymphs floating through life on a lavender breeze.

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His thing is more like you want sovereignty. Great. But you're going to have to wrestle the dragon,
not sage it politely. And honestly, I respect that. I mean, I do too, but I kind of like the thought of
being an nymph. Oh, that's another whole of the show. Oh, jeez.
Today, we're diving into a practice like claims to help you exit the matrix, not by floating above
your problems, but by going straight through them like a cosmic linebacker. Are you ready? Because

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I have feeling this conversation is going to challenge some things, including possibly everything
we've ever said on this show. Oh my god. Let's do the skeptic manipulation starts now.
My name is Will and I'm Garrett and unlike Mulder and Scully, both want to believe. So we've embarked
on a journey of discovery. We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and metaphysical

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world. We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even joined a covenant
which is and wait, you joined a covenant? Yep, all in the interest of finding something. Anything.
That will prove that there's something beyond this physical three-dimensional world we all live in.
This is the skeptic metaphys.
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Hey there, I'm Will and I'm Karen. Welcome to another wait. Are we allowed to say that out loud
episode of the skeptic metaphysicians where we don't just raise vibrations. Sometimes we poke them
with a stick to see what happens. And today's guest is not here for your spiritual bubble wrap.
He's not going to tell you to just stay positive or vibe higher or banish your shadow to the attic

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and hope it behaves. Nope, nope. He wants you to open the door and invite your shadow in,
pour it a drink and ask it what it's really trying to teach you. His name is David Strickle.
He's a creator of Taya or trust your abundant practice. A radically practical approach to
manifestation and spiritual empowerment that doesn't shy away from polarity, challenge, or the

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messy parts of being beautifully human. This practice is based on channeled guidance from what he calls
the "stream, the source consciousness." And the Taya practice basically is an upgraded operating
system for our mind that fuses practical universal law with profound source consciousness guidance.
This introduction is way too long. I just want to say hello to he's the author, the channel,

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the teacher and the guy responsible for making a whole lot of spiritually minded people say,
"Wait, can we do that? I'm excited to have him on the show today, so please welcome David Strickle
to the Skeptic Man of Physicians. How are you doing today?" I am doing fantastic.
You know, and it's what's more fantastic is that we can actually hear you now. So it's perfect.
So you posted with a typical statement? Yeah, yeah. David works hard to have you on the show.

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I have been listening to you since the stream of David Days and know a lot about Taya.
Karen on the other hand has no idea what Taya is. As I'm sure a lot of the people who are listening to
the show are watching the show right now. So maybe let's level set and explain in as basic as possible.
Though I know that's a hard to ask. What exactly is Taya? Taya is a foundational mindset practice or

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mindset system that I created really from frustration that I had with mainstream spirituality and
law of attraction teachings. So I took all the things that I knew worked, that worked for me for decades.
So okay, these things work. I have proven these things to myself. I've taught these things to other
people. They've proven it to themselves. But what about all this other stuff? And I found that a lot

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of these things were rooted in all of this unresolved pain that we all carry around that a lot of
spiritual teachings and especially the popular secret branded law of attraction type teachings.
Sort of guide you to bypass. Just focus on what you want. Just be happy. Operating high vibration.
I also found that there was quite a bit of ego tied to a lot of spiritual practices. A lot of

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I'm a star seed. I'm bigger. I'm better. I'm a channel. I'm special. I'm anointed. And I've never
found any of that to be true. I've never found evidence of any of that because for me, I absolutely
channel source consciousness. But I believe everybody channels source consciousness. And what I'm

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able to do is really tap into that. I've spent a lifetime tapping into that wisdom. And the wisdom is
very simple. It's not terribly entertaining at the end of the day. But I created Taya as a practical
application of that knowledge that I've operated on my whole life. So before we get really into that,
you said you had a lot of frustrations with what you had seen to this point. We have a lot of people

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that listening that might also have frustration. So if you can tell us maybe what yours or they might
be able to resonate and go, Oh, I need to listen to this. I would say that the ego driven said we
all have an ego. So there's nothing wrong with ego. But the highly ego driven elements that I
found in spirituality, I sort of the gurus and all that stuff, I sort of pushed that aside right
away. That was sort of just an automatic turn off for me. And then I got into this whole concept

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that we're somehow going to birth a new earth that is a higher vibration that is some version of
perfection. And I kind of felt like that was a holdover from religion. People sort of exit
religion and then go into new age, spirituality. And then there's still this concept that at the end of
the day, we're going to achieve some perfect utopian environment. And then everything's going to be

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good then. But we are. Sorry. You know, if you could, if you could pull it off, let me know if we
have people go there. You are poking all kinds of holes in all kinds of people's conversations,
including hours, David. I don't know how I feel about that. I think it's nice. It's a nice thing to
think about, right? It's good to have a goal. It's good to to a point. But I think the problem is when

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you get to this, you know, what's fantasy and what can you prove to yourself or what can you help
other people prove to themselves? I haven't seen any evidence that we are able to all get on the
same wavelength to the point that we're going to create some sort of utopia where everything is
just perfect all the time. That kind of just harkens back to the concept of, you know, if you're a good

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person when you die, you get the reward of going to heaven and everything's perfect there. Again,
do you not? Maybe you do. Maybe I would say that one of two things happens when we die. Either
we're eternal beings and we move on to something else, which I do believe that, or my belief is
incorrect. And we cease to be in that case, we don't know. And it doesn't matter because we don't know.

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Right, right. That seems very much like a conversation that Karen and I have had many, many times.
So yeah, so you're poking a lot of holes. The nirvana thing, the utopia thing I can see. Now,
do you think there's any value in shooting for, striving for maybe that 5D transition being that
most people are more in touch with this kind of stuff and not necessarily utopia, but rather there is

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a transition, but it's just something that simple. Well, I think we naturally strive for
expansion. It's evolution. We see that in everything, right? Sciences were always evolving. And I
believe that's why we come to physical is to expand consciousness in the having of the physical
experience, which includes things that we want, our preferences and things that we don't want.

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But what a lot of mainstream law of attraction tends to lean into is the just bypass all the things
that you don't want, just focus on what you do want and everything's going to be great. One of my
key contentions or points of frustration with those teachings, I couldn't, I could never get there.
Practice and practice and practice. Read books, go to seminars, do all the things. I can never

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get to a place where I never went into low vibration. I couldn't get to a place where I could just pretend
like things that happen in my early childhood and my adult life even didn't occur. And it's sort of
like, well, what do you do with all those things? And that's when I started really leaning into all of
that and leveraging all that and understanding it. Wow. Anytime I blocked in any way, eventually,

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sometimes very efficiently and sometimes over a period of time, I discover there is something
in my subconscious mind that I've created perhaps over an entire lifetime that if I continue to ignore
it, it's going to continually cycle back and reveal itself to me until I solve it. And the solving is
what I call detuning. If you've listened to me at all, you know what I talk about detuning a lot

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because I don't think that, you know, for example, I grew up with a, in a single parent, very poor,
household with a mentally ill mother who told me to kill myself when I was a teenager. Oh,
God. You can't just pretend like that didn't happen, right? You have to, you have to kind of come
to terms with that or it's going to haunt you for your whole life. So I realized that I can't just
pretend like that didn't happen. How do I make peace with it? And then I really went deeper and

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deeper and deeper into, I figured that out at 14 when she told me to kill myself. I realized that
it wasn't about me. It was about her. This was her life journey. The fact that she never wanted to
be a parent and now she's stuck being a parent. I was a challenging child. I really, I saw it from her
perspective. And when I did that, it allowed me to detune the monster of her, right? And then I just

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appreciated her. I just appreciated that at the end of the day, her job was to bring me into this
world. She did that. She kept me alive through childhood and she did her work and that's all I should
expect from her. Why do we expect so much from our parents? Because humanity has come together and
created this matrix of beliefs that, oh, your mother supposed to be this and your father supposed

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to be that and you're supposed to be this, by the way, that's all just human created beliefs. And
so what I want to do with Taya is really separate what are the human created beliefs and what is
universal law without completely writing off human created beliefs or even writing off the ego. The
ego has its place. The human created belief system. The matrix has its place. But let's put it in

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its proper place, right? Right. Right. And life gets a lot better when you do that as a practice,
a whole lot better. They could only imagine. So I understand what you're saying. We have to
accept, you know, the things that have happened and what is the human plan or thought process.
But how do you keep from just getting kind of mired into that and just like really kind of
going into a tailspin? Well, that's a good question because as much as all the other teachers talk

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about raising your vibration, that's a big part of what we teach. We teach a lot of tools to
raise your vibration a whole lot of things and we work on a vibrational scale system that we created
that's a 40 point spread plus 20 to minus 20 so that people can easily identify where they are on
a scale and how to move up. I think once you know how to move up, then you can really lean into,

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hey, what's available for me when I'm down? And one of the most important skills that we teach
is the rationalization or a vibrational awareness. So it is a rationalization of where you are
when you're in lower vibration. So if you're what we call down the spiral, DTS,
and you know you're there because everything seems to suck when you're down there. Yeah.

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Most plus, right? So you know when you're down there and instead of
racing to get out of there, now that we know how to get out of there, it's a little easier to
kind of explore. I always talk about the vibrational basement, your subconscious mind is your vibrational
basement. And if you get trapped in the vibrational basement, you just want out of there. I understand
that. It does not feel good to be in there. But now that I know how to get myself out of it,

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when I find myself there, I want to explore what's in the basement. So what's, yeah, I kind of,
I'm a very visual person. So I would just visualize these boxes and think, you know,
I have all this stuff in my basement and it's just weighing me down. It's dragging my vibration down.
And I know in higher vibe, everything works in lower vibe, things stop working and you go low

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enough and then nothing works. And that's how in vibration, we've proven to ourselves. It works that way.
So I want to take those boxes one by one, take, I always say, take them upstairs, put them on the
kitchen island, open them up and say, what is all these, you know, what is all this stuff? And then
in the detuning process, just like I, the example I gave of my mother, instead of, oh my god, my mother

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was a narcissist and she was a terrible person. I had an awful childhood and it was so hard, you don't
understand. No, it was what I did naturally at age 14 that saved me from that experience. This is
isn't me. This is her. Let me understand her more and stop being the victim because I know that our
society loves to promote that. I have found that there's not a lot of healing or solving power

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in being the victim, however. So I always want to claim ownership of anything that's going on and
that that gives you your power back. And that's, I just did that naturally with my mother. And really,
what happened was my parents were so disconnected from my childhood that I went inward for everything
and that inner knowing is what we now call the stream that I just held onto that. Like I said,

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I believe we all have this and it's worked out of us in society. We're taught in religion, don't
listen to that. Listen to what we're telling you to think. Your family probably has traditions
and things like that. Don't listen to your inner knowing. Don't pay attention to that. Do what we tell
you to do. School does the same thing to us. So it systematically worked out of us. Luckily,
I was a dyslexic kid with ADHD and no parental supervision whatsoever. So I did not thrive in a school

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of learning environment. I had to go inward. And going inward was what got me to that point at 14
of the inner voice saying, this isn't about you. This is about her. A straight F student being able
to rationalize that sort of thing had to be something that was natural. I was not a student of psychology
or mindset at all at 14. So it's something that we have natural that I held onto and now I'm really

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running with it saying, hey, this is our natural way of being. That if you look at nature, bad things
happen to animals, for example, and they sort of just move through the experience and get over it.
We love to humanize animals, especially our pets, but the animal kingdom doesn't work the way
that we do. Obviously, they're all about survival. Now we've created all this comfort for ourselves.

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We're not in survival mode anymore. But what we've done is go ahead and we've gone on and re-created
more challenges for ourselves so that we're continually creating from a different level all the time.
So that's how evolution happens. Why don't we adopt a practice where we can really clear out and
just put all of this ego-driven human created all these ideas. Again, I always say kind of put

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that in the back seat, let it enjoy the ride in the back seat while the eternal version of us,
the source version of us is in the driver seat. And then the journey is so much more interesting
because you've got the tools to navigate everything. Well, I'm kind of thinking back to what you said
about, you know, going to the basement and unpacking the boxes. And I mean, my first hour,
those creepy dolls, but I think that's more of an attic thing. They're usually an attic. But some

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people have, they know they've got some really scary stuff in the boxes. Like some people have just had
really, really traumatic events. I mean, how do you get the courage to revisit all of that?
You start, well, that's the foundation of the practice. So this is a great question. The guidance

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that I always provide is when I start talking about this, if somebody asks me what tie, I actually
have TYA tattooed on my arm. So inevitably people are going to say, what is TYA? And I'll say it's
a mindset practice that I create, well, what is it about? The bottom line is it's appreciation of
all things, all things. And that really bottom lines it. And then of course that immediately gets
all, how do I appreciate what's going on in politics right now? And how do I appreciate all of that?

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And I will say that when you practice it systematically as a way of life every day and it just
becomes automatic and it will, if you practice it, you automatically are detuning little things all
the time. And you start to build this momentum where you have the courage to address bigger and
bigger things. Don't start out with the most traumatic thing in your basement. You will absolutely

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sabotage yourself if you do that. But I will tell you that one of the greatest gifts that I got
very early on in teaching this to other people, I started the stream of David podcast, 2017.
And I started a, I left my corporate job and started teaching this full time in an online course
concept in 2018. And I, one of my first students was a woman whose son was brutally murdered at age 23.

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And she'd been, I knew her, her grandmother had worked with me in Seattle. And so I, she, I had some
awareness of who she was and you would happen. I went to her son's funeral. But I didn't really know her
that well. And she showed up in one of my meetings and just was wanting to enroll. She said, I can't
continue to suffer in being the parent of a murdered child. I've been doing this for five years.

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And I can't take it anymore. I've got to move on to something else. And I said, well, so you know what
I'm teaching, right? And she said, yes. And to really kind of again, bottom line it, I said, so are you
ready to find authentic appreciation for your son's murder and his murder? Good God.
I know. I know. I know. And I was one of those moments like, am I going to send this book?
I will vibe in the meeting. And you know if the person, I, I'm really good at kind of detecting if

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someone's really ready to go there or not. If I thought I was going to get a, oh my god, no, this is
terrible. I'm never going to talk to you again. I would have never asked that. But I kind of knew
where we were at that point in the meeting. And she said, yes, I know that that's the answer. And I
will tell you that it worked. So she was one of our, our big first time success stories, you know,
right out of the gate of someone who was able to authentically detune. Not, oh, it's great that

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it happened. And it's wonderful. But instead of the demonization of the whole thing, she flipped it
to how can I understand this from a much higher perspective so that I can deal with it so that I can
process it. And the interesting side note talking about manifestation, what occurred in this time
period is she had waited five years as the serial killer killed her son and another young man in

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Washington States and then went to New Jersey and did the same thing in New Jersey. New Jersey caught
him, convicted him, and then she fought extradition for five years to get justice for her son. And she was
just completely wiped out. Can you imagine five years of every day you're on the news talking about
this before five years? And she was just, you know, she had just been through it and needed to move

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on to something else. And when she went into this deep detuning work, the extradition happened at
last while she was in my program and happened. And then the cool thing is is that she was able to face
the murder in court for the first time and move through that experience. Again, it wasn't joyful.
You know, you're never going to celebrate something like that. But there's absolutely a higher

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perspective available to all of us of everything that's going on in our world. And I do believe that
all of these spiritual practitioners out there that are getting into new age and manifestation
and law of attraction, they're seeking something that innately they know exists. And we're evolving
together to this level of clarity and practice where we're now ready to really look at things

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and accept and process them in a very different way than we have taught ourselves to do. Because really,
we're choosing how we respond to anything. And my most profound moment, I don't have children,
and I can't imagine what it's like to have a children, a child murdered. I just can't even imagine.
That prefer not to. Yeah, of course. And so I can't compare anything to that. That's the pinnacle

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right there. If you can move through that, then in detune that, anybody can detune anything.
And that's why I like that example. A few years ago in 2022, I bought a new home, remodeled it,
moved in, and in less than six months time it burned. And when the house got on fire,
I remember sitting in the driveway, we were reacting to it in a very tie-away. And even though I've

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been teaching it for years, you surprise yourself, right? When you can sit in your driveway and have
13 fire trucks on your street, the week of Christmas, and have firemen running in with chainsaws and
axes ripping your house apart with fire out. And hearing all that, I sat there and said, "Okay,
this is what we're doing now." And it was really like that. There was never a "Why me? This is terrible,

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oh my God." And there was a two-year journey to getting back in the home. And I utilized this
practice through every step of that. So that was an example of something that most people would be
pretty put off by, that I was able to just move through the experience and find appreciation
for the experience as exactly as it was. Right. So there's a very fine line with what you're saying,

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and the, nothing bad is happening kind of thing, right? It's a very, it's a very
nebulous tightrope that you're walking because your house is burning down and you're saying,
"Okay, this is what we're doing." It's not that you were all primrose and bringbows and butterflies,
but right now. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's just processing that I can, I can suffer in this moment

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if I choose to or I can just recalibrate, "Okay, where are we sleeping tonight? What's this process
going to be?" And it wasn't an easy process. We sat and looked at the house for a year, waiting for,
I live in California, waiting for a permit for one whole year. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. And then after we
built the house back, speaking of California, we got an increase in our taxes because the government

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thinks the health is worth more than I was talking about. Yeah, right. So it's more about surrendering
in acceptance than it is about, "Oh, this is everything's fine, everything's good, right?"
I would say we've moved a little further. I think surrender in acceptance has been out there
for a while. Surrender acceptance appreciation. And so you, you, so that's what I'm trying to

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understand. How, how did you manage to appreciate your house burning down? What, what was the, what was the,
well, I would say the, the thing is is to lean into appreciating the experience itself. I know what
it's like for my home to burn down. I know it's like to, you know, three o'clock in the morning show
up at a hotel with two dogs, smelling of smoke, having to stay there when I just, you know, was living in a

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million dollar plus home just before that. And you know, here I am. And it's the weaker Christmas,
by the way, oh, and by the way, my, my partner's elderly mother lived with us and she passed away as a
result of the fire. Oh my gosh. Yeah. And I have to tell you the fire happened on the 19th, she passed
away Christmas Eve morning. Oh, and he was raised in a Catholic Italian American Catholic household.

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And I thought, oh my gosh, I know what this means. This means Christmas is ruined forever.
My partner is a psychologist and knows my practice. And I have to say it really helped in that moment
because instead of saying Christmas is ruined forever, I can't believe my mother passed on,
and he wasn't there when she passed. I can't believe, I can't believe he said, I think it's wonderful

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that she passed on Christmas Eve because she thought that that was her favorite day of the year.
It's just a shift in perspective. You can choose to make, you know, you can choose to say,
this is the worst thing ever. I'm going to have to relive this every year at Christmas now.
He hasn't done that. And it's been going on for years now. Right. So
it's how we choose to react to things and I have yet to find something that we can't

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ultimately find authentic appreciation for anything. Right. Well, I mean, it sounds amazing.
And I hope Monday to get to myself, but you mentioned manifestation in this conversation.
How does the practice of Taya of appreciation for everything help you to bring forth things,
abundance or manifesting anything that you might want?

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I actually started out because of that because there was some, I definitely had some what I used to
call abundance blocks in my life in certain areas. Guilty. Yep. And I realized that the only way
to solve those abundance blocks was to again, authentically solve detune the things that created

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them in the first place. Everything, the entire foundation of our lives is created very early on,
early childhood. And we're very often blocked anytime I meet with somebody that wants to enter our
program. We go right back into tell me what was going on when you were three, four, five, six years old.
That's really digging to that every single time I can look at what's going on in your life right now,

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trace it right back to something. Even if it doesn't completely connect, we come to understand
how it absolutely connects. Right. And that's where my partner who's a psychologist comes in.
You know, very, when we met, I was already teaching this and there's so much psychology cooked into this
and I've never taken, even read a psychology book, but there's a lot of things that is practice

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and psychology that is very effective, that is part of this. It's very, very much a psychological
mindset practice. Okay. Yeah. So to get a little more specific on how your abundance block is actually
released in the appreciation process, when you are constantly thinking money is a big one for a lot

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of people, right? So I've met plenty of people for whom money is a big block. I was raised in a minimum
wage, very poor household. I had upper middle class extended family. So I was exposed to money all
the time and then went home to the Roach and Festitoo bedroom apartment in the not nice neighborhood.
So that almost made it worse. You know, when you're aware how poor you are because your cousins and

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your half sister have everything and you have nothing, that contrast is very formative, right? So
I grew up that way and I actually solved the money part fairly easily. I had that inner voice saying
you don't have to stay here. You can be do or have anything you want. I figured that out in 1982
when I was 14 and then I spent the next 20 years manifesting money and material things, but I didn't

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I didn't really address some other things in my life because money was the money and material
things were the antidote for a while until they weren't anymore. So I worked with so many people that
have manifested money and material things and then they're miserable about something else and I've
also worked with people that are very blocked about money. It's always that early childhood foundation

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that you've built on and it's just branched out into all these other areas and it keeps
reoccurring until you actually solve it. I always say creation, manifestation creation happens in loops.
So these loops come around, you're basically going through a high vibrational loop, your manifesting
things, everything's working out, you're getting married, you're buying a new home, you're getting the

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exciting new job, the good things are happening and then that loop is going to go down and the low
vibration is going to show up and it's going to challenge all of those things and the challenge of
your creation exists to make it a better version of itself. Not only are we evolving as beings are the
iPhone evolves, our devices, this wasn't what it, when the first iPhone came out, it was nothing

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like this version of the iPhone, right? So how do we do that? We figure out what doesn't work,
what doesn't working, we fix those things, we address them and then all of a sudden it's working
better. It's a better version of itself. Everything is that. My home today is a thousand times nicer than
it was after the first remodel because we remodeled it, we lived in it, it burned down, then I really

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got to build it back the way that I wanted to. That was the magic of that whole process. Every single topic
of creation, anything in life is going to be challenged by low vibration. Pay attention to what low
vibration is telling you, you never have to quit or give up on anything if you don't choose to,
low vibration is unraveling the relationship, the money, the business, the health regime,

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to show you what you might want to look at and work on. That's the value of low vibration
and we really, really, really focus on that heavily entire. Okay, got you.
We've talked to people before and they talk about, we have these things that we have to unpack or
discover about ourselves and how that can help. But my question is, I know what caused me to have

(29:46):
the blocks that I have. I know what they are very well, but I still have them. How do you let that go?
We need to take a quick pause, but we'll be right back right after these messages.
And now back to the show. I know what caused me to have the blocks that I have. I know what they are

(30:08):
very well, but I still have them. How do you let that go? How do you get rid of that move? Well, you
don't let it go. You go, you go visit it. Again, you go down to the basement, you grab that box,
you go upstairs, you put it all out on the counter and okay, you know, whatever it was,
you know, I was, you know, abused as a child and how do I process that? Again, I was abused as a child.

(30:31):
I'm a these to bang me in the head with scissors and in Bethic's crap out of me with a belt and
chase me all over the house. And you know, that was nothing though. The psychological stuff is far
worse than the physical I had. I didn't even have to detune that. I was, she's angry and she's chasing me.
She's gonna beat the crap out of me because she's angry. I get it. But the psychological stuff,
that you're not worthy of, you're a piece of crap. You should have never been born. I never wanted
to have you and all that stuff. That was the stuff I had to move through. And again, it's the where

(30:56):
was she coming from? What happened in her life? And I don't know what happened to her as a child.
Obviously something, right? I just constructed something and detuned it. It doesn't matter what
it was because think about it. Everything has ever happened up until this very moment. Only exists
is we recall it, right? So you have two siblings that grew up together in the same household.

(31:22):
I will tell you that my mother was mentally ill, abusive, physically and mentally, a very unhappy,
very sad woman. My brother will say she did the best that she could. She provided for us. He has
a very different mindset about her than I do. And we can't discuss her because I just have a different,
even though I don't fall into victim mode about her anymore. I'm still not pretending like she was

(31:47):
great. Right. You actually facing me out. Yeah, you're right. She was wonderful. You're
eating the crap. Automation told me to kill myself. She kicked me out of the house when I was a teenager.
She did all those things. And then we became friends. And then when I told her I was gay at 24,
she never spoke to me again for the rest of her life. 20 years. So I had to detune all of that. So
when you detune these things, you simply, you do make peace with them. And then you go into the

(32:12):
well, how has this served my expansion of consciousness? So Karen, expansion of consciousness,
and you've probably heard this before, it doesn't just happen by getting all the things that you want.
Expansion of consciousness is just having the collection of experiences, right? You know that that
wise older person that you speak to is the person that has been through some stuff. You never

(32:34):
meet an older person. Oh, my life was easy. I was born into money and I inherited, you know,
about company and then I married this wonderful person and we had these great kids and life has just
been great. But when you try to go to any depth with that kind of individual, the depth is
unavailable because they haven't had that type of experience. There's nothing wrong with the experience
they have. That's what they had lucky them. But those of us that did suffer, that have struggled,

(32:58):
that are living in perfect lives, these are the people I like to talk to. These are the people that
are into this stuff. If you think about it, you've got to find something to process, to move forward in
life and get back to the things that you enjoy. This is certainly an avenue to that. And every single
person that I deal with, they've been through some stuff and they've already solved some of it,

(33:20):
but now they've hit a block and they've hit a wall and how in the hell do I solve this big thing?
And that's the work that I do. And again, I haven't found anything that can't ultimately be
healed through this. So really, it's fair to say that anyone who has been manifesting their
lights out, the guts out, and still not getting those things that they are actually trying to achieve,

(33:42):
it's likely that they have something that's blocking their ability to...
It's absolutely something blocking it, sure, there is. So then someone who's listening to this right
now or watching the video right now has now suddenly the light bulb has gone off. Oh my god,
there is something in me in my past, in my emotional intelligence that is blocking me from

(34:04):
making the life I want. What is the first step someone should do in order to move this thing,
to remove the obstacle? Well, becoming aware of what it is, that self-exploration of what could it be,
go back as far as you can. I always say there's roots and there's branches. You can deal with the
branches if you want, but until you go deal with the roots, it's just going to keep growing back, right?

(34:27):
So we want to start with the roots. What's the earliest thing you can remember that you were
encountering? And sometimes people block things. They have early childhood, you know,
these blocks. Yeah. What do you think it was? Let's work on that.
Constra, again, all of it only exists as your recollection of it anyway. So create a recollection
for yourself that is most likely what was going on and just build around that and what you'll

(34:52):
find is the clarity starts to come in, the little pieces of the puzzle start to fall into play.
Okay, now I realize that I was born into a household that was very much about poverty consciousness.
Rich people are evil, it's hard to get money, you're never going to have it, you weren't born into
the right family or time or whatever it was, and this is just who we are. My mother even used to

(35:12):
tell me, you're dumb like me, you know, your brother's part, you're dumb, you're like me, you're dumb.
Steve, but every time she did one of those things, now I look back and I'm like, wow, that was fuel.
I would not be sitting here doing this right now had I not had that childhood. My mother was my greatest
teacher. My father was my second greatest teacher. Yeah, he wasn't a picnic either.

(35:36):
So, you know, it's having those parents that set a parents was the best thing that ever happened to
me. I always say that being gay is one of the best things ever happened to me because I'm a white
man from the south who did grow up adjacent to an upper middle class family. It would have been
very easy for me to move into upper middle class life in Louisiana and Texas being who I am. And I

(36:00):
would have not been forced to question the way that I question. When your different than society
tells you you're supposed to be, well, I took that as okay, I don't think that's true. And if that's
not true, how about all this other stuff you're telling me to believe? Maybe none of it's true.
Right. And then it was kind of like, holy crap, none of this stuff is true, really. You know, I get

(36:21):
the value of what I was teaching and that we're creating structure and societies and all of that.
Again, not demonizing religion, not demonizing culture and events, just putting it in its proper
place. It's there to create some structure, but this whole idea that it's absolute gospel and you
must follow it. And if you're not that, there's something wrong with you. I just chose not to believe
that about myself or anything else. Okay. So all I can do is talk for myself.

(36:51):
I can't speak for anyone else. And your first steps makes perfect sense. Try to identify
what it could possibly be. And to your point, a lot of us are blocking things that maybe aren't
allowing us to remember the catalyst behind a lot of this stuff. I would assume that is where
someone like you or your partner who's a psychologist would come in very handy in saying,

(37:14):
well, let's look at it this way. Maybe this could be what's going on. Because I'll tell you, for me,
I can identify several different incidences of something that could potentially have had
something to do with this, but they don't seem that big in terms of the abundance side of things,

(37:36):
rather more on my psychological well-being type of thing. So I don't know if I could specifically
say this is what's blocking my abundance. So if someone is having a hard time identifying a specific
thing, do you recommend just diving into it and just processing everything you possibly can? I'm

(37:58):
saying, oh, Fingo found it. Well, when you do this as a practice and in the beginning, it is tedious.
And because you're adopting a whole new belief system and your ego has a very well-established
belief system. And I'm always kind of amused by people that claim that they believe in nothing. I'll
hear that sometimes on social media. I have no beliefs. I believe in nothing. I don't have a
belief system. I'm like, eight theist. And then if you actually engage with these folks, they'll roll

(38:22):
right into commerce, politics, you know, is something like that and you just kind of identity. Yes,
you have a belief system. You've created it as a reaction to what you've experienced in life. It may
be very cynical and that's okay and understandable. But we all have a belief system that we operate in.
So this is a different foundational belief system. And it's very different because we claim ownership
of everything that we've ever experienced, even if we don't know why or how we experienced it.

(38:46):
We do lean into a little bit of spirituality sometimes thinking, gosh, how does a young child
manifest being abused in a horrible way? How do they manifest that? And I do believe
that the energy that creates us has a unique energetic signature. And we have a
personality and a belief system at conception that any woman that's ever gone through the pregnancy

(39:13):
and birth process will say this child has a personality that responds. It definitely is any unique
individual from the beginning. So we don't know. You never know what's going on in someone else's
foundational belief system. A lot of people want to admit it to themselves, much less anyone else.
So we really don't know. But all I can say is that for your personal belief system, wherever

(39:35):
that you believe that you're blocked, being very honest with yourself, these are the things I want
to experience that I have yet to be able to show up consistently in my life. And it's a recurring
pattern. What could be the foundation of that? A lot of it can just be what I call matrix teachings.
The matrix is absolutely designed in this era to monetize everything. So in an industrial area,

(40:00):
era, how do you get people to code to work? Well, the things that you want are tied to money and you
go to work to earn your money and you exchange the dollars and you get things you want by going to work.
That system we see is probably going to fail in the near future. So what are we going to do then?
That's a whole other conversation. But if the abundance and by abundance, you mean happiness,

(40:21):
well-being, positive relationships, money, you know, any area where you're blocked, I would say
think about the area first of where you're not blocked. Everybody has something, right? Everybody's good
at friendships or fitness or health or making money or whatever it is. People have something
they're good at. Everybody does. And think about your belief system and your vibe around that thing

(40:43):
that it's just something that you just know. I don't worry about making friends everywhere I go. I'm
so friendly. People love me. They always call me up and want to go do things. This is just something
that's very easy for me. Well, you've just identified that you have a foundational belief that you're
good at this. So how do you create a foundational belief that you're good at fill in the blank,
whatever it is that isn't showing up in your life? You detune all of the things that contradict it.

(41:06):
Right. You just connected two major dots for me in that one short sentence or two that you just
did. What's that? So A, the thing that we're good at is what we share, right? And so the feeling of
that is the feeling you're supposed to have when you're trying to bring other things into your life.
And that's what we are missing. We're not this. This is we're so sure. We are just rock solid.

(41:32):
That's the rock solidness that we have to go outside to bring other things with you. But then the
second thing that connected was perhaps in spite or maybe because of the failure of the financial
systems that you alluded to earlier, instead of manifesting abundance in terms of money,
what we're supposed to be doing is manifesting abundance in terms of creature comforts.

(41:56):
Bring me enough food, bring me enough shelter, bring me enough support, bring me enough,
right? This kinds of things as opposed to money because money is a fictional thing. It's something
we've created ourselves. Or it's a digital screen these days, right? It really is. Yeah, exactly.
Or is it just changing the way you look at things because we have shelter? We have food. We have

(42:20):
all that stuff. And in that sense, I would say we have been wildly successful in manifesting
abundance. What we don't have, well, we do have it, but not in huge numbers is the physical money,
the cash. We've always had everything we've ever needed to for a little stint there, but ever since,
right? Yeah, right. So I think that changing, I think that, wow, this, sorry, David, I mean,

(42:45):
did I have to come back in my language, just I live that way. Yeah, I absolutely live that way. I
used to, I was in a very high paying corporate job and I had no business being in because I had a
GED education, but I got myself, I manifested the career and I chose to quit the job with no real
safety net. This was 10 years into this practice that I created for myself originally. And I,

(43:10):
I thought, okay, I really don't want to work for anybody else anymore. I really want to teach
this full time. I did not, I do not, I've never inherited a dime in my life from anyone. And I had no
big nest egg. I always, you know, earned a lot, spent a lot. And in my first book, I talk about, I was
living in an apartment in San Francisco. It was 6,000 a month, my rent was going up to 10,000 a month

(43:32):
for an apartment. And I was paying, I think, $1,200 a month on a lease for an Audi. I had an expensive
lifestyle and I quit the corporate job with the, the, the, the debt load. Wow. And just assumed that
everything was always going to work out. And the funny thing is is that I did get to a point
when I started my coaching program to where things were just out of the gate, people lined up

(43:55):
around the block because of my podcast, oh my gosh, yes, here's thousands of dollars. I'm going to
take your program. It was just wonderful. And then all of a sudden, my nest egg that I did have
was about depleted. And when that started to happen, I started getting worried about the nest egg.
What happened then? People stopped enrolling in my program. Right. The business fell apart. It
didn't fall apart, but slowed way down revenue stopped coming in. And I got all the way to the edge

(44:20):
of the cliff. And I love to tell the story. I was living in a million dollar four bedroom, four
bath house with a swimming pool for no good reason other than I wanted it. I had the expensive car still.
And here I go to the grocery store with my Rolex on in my fancy car. And I had the money that was in my
wallet to my groceries that week. And I just made it a game. I'm like, I'm going to make this fun.

(44:43):
And so I made that experience fun. It's one of my favorite experiences now to talk about. And I'll
never forget within a day or two of that happening. I kind of fell back into that worried about my
nest egg thing though. And on some level, I knew I was doing it to myself. But then I opened the mailbox
and I get the letter from the IRS. Oh, by the way, you owe thousands of dollars in back taxes from

(45:04):
some stock sale that I didn't record right. And I just stood there and laughed, this, okay, I get it
universe. This is my vibe right now. I'm worried about money and all the signs of no money are
showing up all around me. I'm self supporting. If I get kicked out of this house, I am literally homeless.
No job, no money living in the 90,000 dollar out of you. You're using the Rolex's appello, right?

(45:29):
So I, I, that was the, the turning point. I'm like, okay, my lights are still on my internet works. My
clients are still showing up. I have zoom. I'm even watering the grass in this house with no money.
The universe is showing up for me. It's going to show up for me no matter what. And it did. And as

(45:51):
soon as I did that, it detuned that block and then business started turning again and the rest
is history. I've never been in a situation like that since then. That was 2018. Wow. That is
an incredible story. Yeah. See, here's where my pragmatic doubtful will comes in and says, I wonder
if the universe would have let me kept that Bentley or if it would have made me force the bleese,

(46:16):
sold it and picked up a Hyundai so that I could then afford that instead. I think there is
the difference between the thought processes because in the past, when we've been in situations like
that, we have been forced to sell off things in order to make ends meet, even though we were like,

(46:36):
universe is going to provide it sure didn't. Well, it provided the Hyundai, but it wasn't going to
provide the Bentley. So obviously, there is something in, in us that we've got to look at.
Well, it's the ego status thing, right? What will everyone think if I'm no longer driving the
Bentley and I'm driving the Hyundai? Right. The Hyundai is going to get you from point A to point B.

(46:57):
It's going to do the same thing the Bentley does, but the Bentley is going to do it in a much
flashier, bigger way. Yeah. Yeah. And I like nice things. I always say I'm not one of these spiritual
people that says you should just go live simply in a hut somewhere and be okay with you have whatever
you want. I don't think sources judging Mark Zuckerberg any more than sources judging the person
that's living on the street. So for me, it wasn't, I never really had a real fear of losing

(47:23):
the house. I mean, it was kind of there, but the bigger fear was like, I'm running out of money now.
I would say that whatever the scenario is, if the manifestation is the Bentley goes away,
then appreciate that the Bentley went away. How many times have you heard of some wildly successful
person that's declared bankruptcy over and over and over again? If they're self-made, most of them,

(47:46):
right? I mean, that's just again, low vibration is challenging your creation. So you created something
in your life that allowed you to have a Bentley in this scenario and then the challenge came up and
you chose to solve it by getting rid of the car and trading down to something cheaper. But next time,
you don't necessarily have to do that. Or if you do, being completely okay with any outcome,

(48:09):
takes away that fear that keeps the unwanted thing showing up. There you go.
Yeah. That's it. Okay, the Bentley's gone. Who cares? I'll drive a Hyundai for a while. And then when
I'm ready, I'll get back in another Bentley. It'll be even better. I'll appreciate it more. It's not
having to cling to anything. Wow. You've unpacked quite a few things. So I've got a process all this

(48:34):
stuff. I'm going to listen to this episode at least six times to try to really get to the bottom of it.
If someone who's listening now or watching wants to get involved, wants to learn more about Taya,
maybe we count and work with you. What's the first step? Where should they go?
TayaCatemy.com, T-Y-A Academy.com. That's our hub for everything. You join that. You get into our

(48:57):
learning hub. There's a whole set of teachings in the learning hub. We do live Sunday Zoom meetings.
There's a newsletter that goes out. You can start learning this and seeing if it's the right thing
for you right away. And then we do have a coaching program for people that are really ready to,
okay, I know this is my thing. Now I'm really ready to get into the work.
Then the coaching program is flat. In there, we have a scientist. We have myself. We have a psychologist.

(49:20):
We have people with years of spiritual practice. So we've sort of merged science, spirituality,
and psychology into one thing. And we sort of use all of those approaches to teach and to learn.
How is it like a specific length program or you just work with someone until they kind of get it?
Well, the program is designed to last between eight and twelve weeks, just depending. Sometimes

(49:42):
people get stuck on something. And so we try to keep it between eight and twelve because we want to
build momentum in the program. And it's hard work. It's heavy lifting. It's not for everybody. It's
for people that are saying, it's in fact, my program is called High stakes change. They used to be
called tie a boot camp and we reinvented it this year and updated the whole thing. And we call it
high stakes change because I want to clearly communicate this is for people who are really serious

(50:05):
about transforming their lives in some meaningful way. So it's interesting. You're very early on in
the conversation you mentioned the gurus and things like that. And they're not being a lot of
evidence behind the benefits of them. And yet I would posit to say that you're like a digital age guru.
Right? You're helping people. I put us on trust pilot because as we scale, I don't want to...

(50:29):
What happens with most of these things, including religion, if you think about it, when the money
starts pouring in and it gets really popular, that's when it starts to, oh gosh, millions of dollars
are pouring in. How do I get more of that? It's kind of human nature. So I set tie up from the
beginning to operate on four key pillars. And I've said from the beginning, these pillars of appreciation,
source, polarity and intention. These are the four things that we do. It's never going to be rules.

(50:53):
I'm never going to be a guru. There's never going to be any worship or dogma. It's not the only
thing so that it has a lifespan that keeps it from becoming something that's like a culture
religion or something of that nature. So those four key pillars are a big part of that. And then
like you said, leveraging technology, we do a lot of that. You know, just our whole system is built

(51:14):
in a very sophisticated technology for learning. And the trust pilot part of it is something that I
did early on that nobody in our field was doing. And I thought, well, as this scales, and I have other
people coming in to help me teach it, I want to ensure the quality is there because I have people
wanting to teach it in other languages and all these things. How do I do that? How do I keep us
honest to this? Have a trust pilot out there. That was the best platform that I could find that was

(51:39):
real that wasn't saying, hey, pay us money. We'll get you better. You know, that's all for right? Sure.
Yeah. So trust pilot is so far as proven to be very trustworthy that anybody can say anything
on their they want. I have no control over it. And we have a really good trust pilot rating. And I
strive for that. That that's proof that we're getting results for people. Right. That's great.
When people spend a lot of money, they have huge expectations and we have to meet those.

(52:02):
Absolutely. I love that that you have that David. I didn't know that. And that's a great resource.
Yeah, because we do. We meet a lot of folks that have a lot of programs and we just you just never know
and we've been resistant to invest in any programs because whatever doesn't work, right? Is this?
Well, skeptic. The reason I liked your name because the skeptic, I think we should be skeptical

(52:24):
before we go to the point of cynicism, skepticism, a little critical thinking is why's because I
can't tell you I just had someone graduate my program. And before she came to my program, she took a
$20,000 program, which is more expensive than mine. And she said it was nothing like it was represented
to be she was yelled at, screamed at, belittled by this person. That's from a freedom.

(52:47):
Yeah. And in people, that's a lot of money to part with for no results. Yeah. And what I said
ultimately, I think ultimately because I have certainly spent money on things in business that
turned out not to be what they promised a lot of that in the business world as you know. And I just say,
you know, all of it is going to combine together to give me what I need. Even the learning experience of,

(53:07):
okay, this person's complete BS, not doing anything that you said they were going to be able to do.
And I've spent the money and it's gone. But in the end, it made me a wiser business owner, right? It helped
me that way. And I just, I detuned it through appreciation that, you know, if I sit and lament how much
money I spent on something and it didn't work, I'm just going to stay stuck there. If I show appreciation

(53:32):
for the process, I know the universe is going to deliver that money back to me one way or another no
matter what. Well, that's, and I do live my life like that. That's a very interesting way of talking about
how money is that this is a flow that, you know, is it people talk about manifestation in a way in
the way that, you know, if you, if you tighten up and try to save up, you know, hoard up the money,

(53:54):
it stops up the flow. This is a different way of looking at it, right? By having appreciation for the
things that are happening, yes, I spend that $20,000, but it's not like, man, I just wasted it, rather,
oh, it was a learning experience that $20,000 will come back to you in some other way.
It'll come back some other way, exactly. And then the last thing on the money topic, also, I talk a lot
about so many of these, these practices actually activate what I call the vibration of need.

(54:20):
You know, you need to say 10 mantras a day and every day you need to meditate about being rich.
And what ends up happening is as you want it so bad that the vibe is it's not here.
That is me, right? Not here. That is so. I always talk about the sweet spot
manifestation. And I like to say the sweet spot manifestation, the way I describe it is, wouldn't that be
nice? You know, wouldn't that be nice? So you're appreciating it, you're experiencing it in a very

(54:47):
light way that I find allows things to flow in. Instead of, oh, my God, I got to have that. I need that.
I need to think about that every day because generally, if it's not showing up, it's because we're more in
need than in the just vibing with something. Again, when back to those things that we know that we're
already good at, you just vibrate with that stuff. You know, you just know it. Then just apply that to

(55:07):
everything. So Karen, wouldn't it be nice if everyone who's listening to the show or watching the show
shared this with one person that they knew this would help. Wouldn't it be nice if they wrote an Apple
review? It would be lovely. It would be lovely. Yes. No, David, this has been wonderful. I also listen to
you. Is it the TYA? Yeah, we've renamed it. It used to be the stream of David. Now it's the Taya podcast.

(55:32):
Everything's, he was getting confusing. What's the stream of David? What's Taya? Taya is the
practical application of what the stream has delivered for us. I really just talked Taya these days.
So everything is TYA. Everything is Taya. Everywhere social media. We're going to add a link in our show
notes to your website. So it's easy for someone to reach out. And we really appreciate you coming on

(55:54):
sharing your wisdom with us. Thank you. I appreciate you having this a lot of fun. Yeah, it's been fun.
Okay, well that does it for this episode of the Skeptic Manifestions. Thanks for coming along
on this journey beyond the veil. If you're enjoying the ride, don't forget to visit us at
SkepticManifestions.com to dive even deeper into the world of metaphysics and spiritual awakenings.
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