Spiritual Awakenings and Connecting to ETs with an App

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Karen. Yes, I figured it out. I know you know?
What are you?

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I don't even want to figure out because he figured
something bad?

Speaker 1 (00:07):
I fail. I did. I figured it out. I figured
out the secret to unlocking human consciousness, communicating, no, communicating
with extraterrestrials, and creating a new Earth. Wow, yep, you
know how to do that. No, there's a nap for it.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
That there is.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Actually, it's an actual app and it was built by
a woman who went from biochemist to spiritual badass, trained
like a ninja, survived a near death experience, and now
basically reverse engineer's enlightenment.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Oh there's hope for us.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
I was gonna say, what have you done today?

Speaker 3 (00:42):
I made some toast.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
What that means that might act actually be better? Today's guest,
she's got soul and she's got tech, and together they're
called soul Pod. Stay with us, you'll find out what
all that means on this episode of The Skeptic Metosicians.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
My name is Will and I'm Karen.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Unlike Boulder and Scully, both believe. So we've embarked in
a journey of discovery.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and
metaphysical world.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even
joined a coven of.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Witches and wait, you joined a coven?

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yep, all on the interest of finding something, anything that
will prove that there's something beyond this physical.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Three dimensional world we all live in.

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This is the skeptic metaphysicians. Hey there, before we get
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thanks to your help on this. Without further ado, let's
get on to the interview. Hey there, I'm willing and
today we're excited because our guest, happens to be what

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happens when you mix a science lab with a meditation
retreat and throwing a cosmic awakening for good measure.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
That sounds wonderful and exhausting.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
She's fly very tired. Yeah, because see she's a reiki master,
she's a martial artist and the founder of a soulfulness
app that's got more spiritual downloads than the Acoshic records
during Mercury retrogrades. Please welcome to the show the woman
who's bringing biotech and higher tech together, Crystal Cassidy, Thanks

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so much for coming on the show.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Thank you so much for having me. That's one of
my favorite intros of all times. So thank you.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Well, you know what, it's small fee if you want
us to record that and so you can carry it
around with you every where you go.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Every morning.

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We just call you every day and then we just
record it. We'll just play it back for you. It'd beful.
All right. I think we need to start at the core.
All right, we're talking big concepts like spiritual awakenings and
things like that, and you've said that awakening requires courage.
How do you define awakenings? O.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Good question, Awakening is this process of turning the light
on in your awareness, and the more that you turn
that on, the more that you become aware of. And
as you become aware of more both the light and
the dark within you and the world that you inhabit,

(03:52):
the ask is to see how much of that you
can hold in your human So I think of a
awakening as how much of your soul can you bring
into this dimension of space and time? And that's really
my mission, is how much of my soul can I
bring into this space and time? But the process of

(04:12):
it is varied for each person. Each person comes into
this incarnation with a different energetic constitution, So one person's
awakening is not necessarily going to look the same as
another person's awakening, though there are there are themes, for sure,
But that's really how I view it, is turning up
the dial of awareness and seeing how much of your

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soul you can bring into this dimension.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Cool. Well, I got to follow up a question, but
I got to say, if you're only listening to the audio,
you're missing out the great action going on behind it.
Let's trying to make itself really comfortable. Right now, all
I can think about is is it not yet?

Speaker 3 (04:51):
No?

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Not yet there it goes, there goes.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Okay, good, thanks, but that is his favorite blanket.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
It's soon to be mine too. Now I must be
so comfortable, but it is.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
It is a very good for the for the the
uh telescope.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah, that's awesome. That cat must be out of this world.
So okay, So I love your definition of spiritual awakenings.
But then why do you say it it takes courage?

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah, such a good question in conversation, because as you
dial up that light of your awareness, it asks a
lot of you, and it takes courage at each step.
And there's infinite steps of awakening in my view, and
this journey into wholeness, and it can be daunting, especially

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at the beginning. You know, you're you're sitting in meditation,
or you're trying to sit in meditation, and you're you're
coming up against yourself. And that's why meditation, especially at
the beginning, can be so challenging, because it's it really asked,
how much of yourself can you sit with? And that
takes courage to become more aware of your thoughts. A

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lot of times, especially at the beginning, the thoughts that
you're having aren't exactly what you would want to be having,
and shame and guilt and all these other elements can
come into the experience, and it takes courage to sit
with discomfort, and a lot of the awakening process is
uncomfortable because you're moving more and more into the unknown.

(06:27):
In the ego, the personality, the self. It really likes
the known. It likes to predict, it likes to think
that it's in control. And the nature of the mystical,
the nature of the soul is very fluid. It is
merging with the void, the unknown, and so all kinds
of different elements of courage are required in the process.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
So you said something earlier that kind of I guess
triggered a question for me that you're bringing in your
soul or you're you're you know, you're you're dialing it
in to bring it into this this world that I
always thought we had to get out there like project
ourselves out. Is there a difference or have I just

(07:11):
been doing it wrong the whole time?

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Such a good question, And no, you haven't been doing
it wrong. Yeah, it's it's actually both. And so there
is this what you're what a lot of people are
thinking of. And I think you're thinking of, is you're
moving outside of the self. So part of the journey
is to leave your ego behind a little bit. So

(07:35):
I like to think of at the beginning of the
awakening experience, the ego or the self is in the
driver's seat, and as you awaken, the ego takes the
back seat and the soul takes the driver's seat. So
there is this dance that you're talking about, which is, yes,
you're expanding into the field of awareness, this wholeness, this oneness,

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this experience of connectivity that challenges beliefs and converts it
to knowing. And then you're coming back, right, You're coming
back into the human experience. You're having conversations like we're
having today, You're doing your work in the world. And
I like to think of we don't talk as much

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about that part of it, which is really bringing the meditative, spiritual, soul, element, frequency, energy,
whatever you want to call it, into this dimension of time.
And I consider that like the complete loop.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
It makes perfect sense. Right. People talk about, we talk
about all the time how growth happens at the edges
of your comfort zone, and it explains a lot why
people aren't as spiritual awake as everyone would hope, because
it's a lot easier to just go eh, I'm just
going to let things go the way they are doing

(08:57):
research on you. I noticed something that made me sit
up and go Was it gas? Yes? It was after
I had the gas X tablets, and suddenly I realized
that you you talk about the importance of meditating longer
than ten minutes.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Ooh, yes, that can be something that causes some crunchiness
some people.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Do you understand my need for gas X?

Speaker 3 (09:27):
I do?

Speaker 1 (09:28):
And really this is a.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Again, any any practice that helps connect you to your
highest self, in my view, is a valid practice. So
a five minute meditation to call your energy back, to
get some grounding that has a place, and it's important
and if you're looking to really accelerate your spiritual development,

(09:57):
the five minutes of time, typic doesn't give you enough
time to expand into those brain wave states that allow
for the transcendent experience. We're in our human right, so
we just we were working with time, especially at the
beginning of your experience, and so in my experience, after

(10:18):
meditating for over a decade every day now the fifteen
to twenty minute mark tends to be where I find
there's a gear shift, and the more familiar you get
with that gear shift in your meditative experience, the more
control you can start to get over it. So I mean,
at this point, for me, I can find that gear

(10:40):
shift earlier, and some days it's still a struggle, and
I'm finding that gear shift after thirty forty minutes. So
the longer you go, and if you start to go
to like an hour, two hours, three hours, you start
to realize there's these waves of experience that come through
and you can learn learn how to ride those waves

(11:01):
that you're just not going to catch in a five
minute even ten minute meditation.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, once I get the two and three hours of
meditating a day is when I realized that I need
a new job. I think my boss would be pretty
kaying cranky.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
Yeah, you gotta get up real early.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
And it kind of makes sense because when I meditate,
it's like the quick ones. So we've we've done different
programs and you know, we're like, Okay, I'm going to
do this every day and it almost feels like, Okay,
I have to do this and get this done. It's
just ten minutes. But when we've just kind of had
our own meditations where you sit and you meditate and
then you you feel that gearshift or whatever. You get
into the zone, then you just don't want to get out.

(11:42):
Oh you know, and you can stay there and it's
a longer time. But it's I think for me, I mean,
I'm nowhere near your expertise or experience in meditating. It's
it's it's hard to do it quickly.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
I can't you know.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Well, yeah, I think with at the No Institute, someone
says that when you sit down to meditate, you need
to give yourself the ability to not be rushed right,
to allow yourself to take have it take as long
as it's going to take, and don't be rushed to
have a time frame when you think.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
I'm going to do a ten minute meditation almost feels
more like a chore, like I've got to get this
done and cross it off my list. So I think
you don't really allow yourself to fully experience.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
That's a good point, totally.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
Yeah, that that checkmark thing that us humans love to
do is just check it off off our list. And
I think it for me that that transition from it
being like a biohack, Like yes, meditation helps with sleep,
It helps all kinds of amazing things to optimize our lives.
But once you, I think, shift into the reason that

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you're meditating is not just to sleep better and have
a calmer mind. It is to transform your life and
your consciousness and to awaken and self realize in this lifetime.
That why is a lot more compelling than and you
know the checkbox for I did my five or five

(13:04):
minute grand grounding meditation, which again I love, but it's
not like the core of my practice.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
And that's why I brought the conversation to meditation, because
the biggest question mark is always we open the show
with what is a spiritual awakening? And why does it
take courage? And went to meditation because I was going
to ask, well, how does someone awaken spiritually? And most
of the times the answer is meditation. That's why I
asked that question. But in your estimation, long time meditation

(13:32):
that's the way to awaken.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Yeah, I think again, awakening can come to you in
any form. I think that there's there's all kinds of
ways the universe can work with you to help you awaken.
If you're meditating, though, this is you're setting that intention
that this is something that you're interested in, and so

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the universe will meet you more than halfway. So in
my opinion, meditation is one of the most efficient methods
of awakening, and it's something that yes we have, we
have soul pod, and we have guidance, but ultimately, once
you know the mechanics of this practice, then you can
bring that with you anywhere. It's always accessible and it

(14:18):
starts to bleed into your life in amazing ways. So
I do think it's one of the core practices for
a reason, and other elements like psychedelics and breath work
and yoga can be these portals into higher states of
consciousness and it shows you what is possible, which is

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very exciting. But meditation helps you sustain that and embody
it and integrate it. If you're doing it every day,
you can reach those psychedelic states just through meditation. But
it's really the foundation I think of a consciously awakening person.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Well, there's so many other things and other topics I
want to talk to you about, like Kundalini in extraterrestrials
and all kinds of stuff, but since you mentioned soul pod,
let's dive into that a little bit, because that's an
important conversation to have. Can you explain to us what
soul pod is actually?

Speaker 3 (15:11):
Yeah, Soulpod at its core is a platform for awakening,
So it's designed to step you day by day into
a personalized journey. So I love understanding where somebody's at
in their spiritual development, what's your relationship to things like
ambition and expression and intuition, not just if you're having

(15:35):
a hard time sleeping and you're stressed out, because we
all are, and through that understanding, we help to pair
you with practices that are probably going to be the
most potent for where you're at right now. And the
other thing about Soulpod that I love is the community aspect,
which we're working on a lot this year too. Really
exciting things coming. But you know, when I was awakening,

(15:58):
I didn't have very many spaces to go to. I
wasn't religious. I was literally calling up Ashrom's and asking
to speak to nuns and monks on the phone because
I had questions about and.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
They say, sorry, but they're going, this is a silent sorry,
you can't come to the phone.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
Yeah, but they they were amazing and they really did
help help me understand things because I didn't have anywhere
else to talk about these experiences, the weird, the mystical,
the difficult, and so that's really important in soul pot
as well.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
So it's an app, right, it is on iOS.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah, we're working on Android. We're working on it.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Okay, So it's an app, So it's exciting. But then
you say it's a personalized experience, So do you ask
questions of the person when they download the app that
gets up the parameter set for them? Then yeah, it
crafts an individual journey for each person.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Yeah, we we asked series of questions we called astral intelligence,
and we have a series of journeys and through those
series of journeys, we pair people onto a path and
so you'll have a path to go through. And each
journey is twenty one rituals over thirty days. So it's
really an immersive experience and each day is going to

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build on the one before it. So you really learn
how to stretch your relationship with breath work, and I'm
talking about like yogic breath work, which helps to introduce
you to the contemplative state and then the unfocused expansion.
And I find that that process is really powerful for

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many people.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
That sounds amazing. But yeah, so is this something that
you need to devote two to three hours a day too?

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Not quite that much time, but you could, You totally could.
But each practice is at least fifteen minutes long, some
of them closer to thirty. And then we have a
few We just released a feature called Portals, which is
a little bit more bespoke. They're like niche deep dives
into some of these spiritual concepts. And we have walking

(18:10):
Portals coming next, which I'm really personally excited about. Walking
meditation has been a big transformer for me.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
That sounds so flipping cool.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
It really does.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
So with walking meditation, I mean it sounds like you're
walking while you're meditating. Do you have to be like
outside in the woods or can you do it in.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
The middle of the city For it's you know, it's
a really interesting experience. My personal practice, I live in
San Francisco and up in the hills a little bit,
and I make this my practice to walk around the city.
So walking meditations are definitely challenging your comfort zone because

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you're walking in this kind of trance like state. So
you're trying to maintain that meditative mind as you walk,
and we walk you into that no Punintendo, but we
walk you into the meditative state, and then you start
moving in that trance state, and then you'll stop, go

(19:16):
back into the meditative state and see if you can
go even deeper. And so, of course this requires you
if you're in a public space. I mean, beaches are great,
the park is great. But I find it really interesting
to walk around the city and I've had people stop me.
One of my favorite experiences is I thought I was

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alone and I had stopped in front of a few
homes and I had just felt the energy moving and
I was kind of moving like Kyegong kind of kind
of vibes, and I had people coming out of their
homes being like, what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (19:52):
I want to do that good. Oh, now they're going
to say, what are you doing? I need to call
the ambulance.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
The police, But it's they could feel the energy that
was being generated and wow. So there's walking. Meditations are
a really great way to bring those higher levels of
consciousness into your waking state, and it takes practice.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yeah, I was gonna say that I would assume that
this is not for the beginner, right, Yes, you need
to really be I guess I would even say advanced
in meditative states before you attempt it, because you know,
especially in the city, there are lamp posts and motels,
box and mailboxes and people everywhere. Uh so you have

(20:38):
to be able to navigate both at the same time
that I don't know, Yeah, it takes.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
It takes some practice. And I always tell people you
want to feel safe, so you don't want to feel
unsafe on a walking meditation. But you're not necessarily going
to feel comfortable because it is a different practice and
people are going to be walking by you. You can
wear sunglasses, you can wear a hat that's like walking meditation.
I think they have those online, but I have really

(21:05):
they must, I've seen somebody's got.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
To have something. If not, they have low opportunity.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
Walking meditation and progress. But the I have seen beginners
really take to the practice once they understand some of
the mechanics. But it to your point, it can be
very helpful to establish at least the understanding of the
meditative state on the cushion.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Gotcha, you know, And I can see how it might be,
like you're saying, for beginners, it might be helpful because
for me, like when when I cook and which I
do a lot, you know, chopping just I zone out.
I just that's my meditation. But I'm still chopping and
I have a big old knife, you know, and I've
not cut myself yet if I knock on wood. So
maybe that's you know, people, when you think about meditation,
you think you have to sit still in the quiet

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and clear your mind, and it's very daunting, and so
maybe if your body's doing something it enables you to
clear your mind better.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
For some people, well, you doodle when you when you
are sitting listening to a lecture or something, you doodle
and helps you focus right. Same with our daughter, she
does the same thing. So that's kind we need to find.
We need to finish off that coloring book schetagnizations called
coloring book. That people can be coloring all that.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
But then that stresses me out.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
But that stresses you up, but it really it helps
me get into a meniitani of state.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
So like I can draw on something, but if color
then it's like I have to finish.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Right. Well. Soul pods sound sounds amazing, and we're gonna
we're gonna talk about how to access that here in
a few minutes. But I know that you have gotten
at least two new members anyway. So we'll talk about
that in a second. But but let's dive into the
other really cool topics. Like there's so much talk these

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days about Kundalini, and there is talk about it from
both sides of the fence, right that old Kundolini is
the gateway to spiritual experiences, But then the other side
is going, she don't want to mess with this stuff
because it's going to mess you up. So where do

(23:07):
you stand on it? What is Kundalini and how can
we activate it if you want to?

Speaker 3 (23:12):
Oh love to? So the first, the first kind of
thing I think about when it comes to Kundalini is
that it's it's inherent in all of us. So it exists, right.
It is a stored energy at the very base of
our energetic system. I like to think of it more
as a gate than this amorphous energy. It is a

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morphous energy, but I imagine Kundalini wakening as the gate
opening and more energy. You already have energy moving into
your system, but more energy can start to move into
your central channel, and so you can imagine more energy
moving like just like in a light bulb. You're turning
that light up, and you don't want to blow the.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Fuse, right, especially something like this. So most of the
people are listening understand what the chance is, but for
those that may not be. Basically you're talking about that
channel inside of us. It goes through the chakras, and
so this energy it's almost seemed like a serpent, right,
it just coils around that channel and goes up and

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makes you do all kinds of wonky things.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
Yeah, it's connecting and activating all of those energy centers,
which when this happens to you discover, oh, they are real.
They're not just like metaphors for talking about energy. The
energy centers are very real, and these are intersections of
many lines of energy coming together, and the central channel
it kind of follows your spine, and this flow of

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energy is both moving up and down into this circuitry
that's up and kind of down. And when this opens
up for you, a lot of people can experience as
it a sudden rush and all the energy goes up
to the very top of your energy centers, up to
your crown. That was not my experience. My personal experience

(24:59):
was one center at a time over many years. But
the initial experience of it, opening of the gate opening
in meditation about twenty minutes in was you know, this
oneness experience that you hear so much about, but once
you experience it for yourself, you're like, oh, we all

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we really actually are all connected. Like this isn't just
a philosophy, it's it's a it's inherent to this reality.
And that is a huge shift. And for me that
was the first shift, my first and second energy center,
and then it moved up and every time it moves
it's almost like a birthing process. I feel like I

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feel like it's a birthing into a new earth, a
new you. And there's challenges at each point in that process.
And some people will tell me, you know, they have
fear about it, and I think that there isn't one
way to do it. And I'm not necessarily a big

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fan of saying, you know, don't do this or don't
do that, But what I will say is it is
very powerful energy and sometimes it will spontaneously open up
and the human in you will think that it's out
of control, but there is some level of you that
was ready for it. So I often tell people that

(26:24):
on some level, maybe not consciously you were ready for
this experience. So there's a little bit of trust and
faith that comes into that as well. But I've heard
all kinds of different experiences. Mine was very incremental, all right.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yeah, Well we've heard all kinds of people who it
was a spontaneous Kundlini awakening and they just lost their
minds and suddenly they couldn't do things that they used
to be able to do, like go to work and
talk to their spouses and things like that. So be
careful what you ask for.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
Yes, it will. I will say that each time it
moved for me, my external life life shifted with I
just remember being like, okay, the next two weeks, I
need to just take it easy because I know that
things are changing and the rate of change. Because if
you think about it, if you're moving into different frequencies

(27:17):
of being, the external world has to adjust to your consciousness.
It's a law of attraction, and so the discombobulation that
can come with that can be very intense. So very
much exercise with caution.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yeah, discombobulation the head. There's another hat, right, Well, that's
the T shirt that you wear with the hat exactly. Yes,
So how can someone I guess you mentioned meditation after
about twenty minutes. But if someone wants to actively make
that come alive, are there any exercises or things that

(27:56):
people can do to activate it or is it just
a spontane sayings either you got it or you don't.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
Baby, everyone has it, so it's always just a matter
of time. But I think the most in whether it's
this lifetime or the next one. But I think the
most powerful thing to do is if you're interested in
this energy opening is setting that intention. If you simply
set that intention that you're like, I think I'm ready

(28:22):
for this. I think I'm ready to discover what this
central channel can really do. It will start to meet you.
And I'm not convinced that you have to do any
particular practice, though there are And I do Kundulin yoga
and I do Korea yoga. Those are accelerators for sure,
kind of like psychedelics are accelerators for the mind. Korea Kundalini,

(28:47):
certain breath work, some of which is in soul bods,
so you can start there nice and easy. Those practices
will start to shake up your energetics so that that
gate can start to open.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Gotcha right now? Long term. Listeners of the show know
about our new reality TV network. You talk about a
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the skeptic metaphysicians. What is the New Earth and are
we in it right now?

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Good question. I think we are entering it. I think
we're in a very interesting point in space and time
where there is even though things seem very crazy out there,
I do think there's a lot of people awakening, and
I do think that there's not a coincidence that we're

(31:43):
having this acceleration of technology and all kinds of things
coalescing at the same time, and I do think that
a lot of that is serving humanity's next evolution. And
just like with the awakening process, which is really a
birth canal in especially during some of the challenging parts
of that birth, it's very dark and it's very constricted,

(32:06):
and you can't really see very far in front of you,
and so there is that element of birthing I think
into the New Earth, and I think that is where
we're at, and there's certain people I think that maybe
have already stepped into it. But as far as what
it is, I think it's a graduation as a species
into a multi Gary Zufkov calls it a multisensory experience.

(32:32):
So this is a graduation into us using our energetics
solely in this dimension of space and time and starting
to move into the field experience as humans realizing that
this central channel that we're talking about is technology to
be awakened and that is going to serve humanity in

(32:55):
absolutely amazing ways that I'm personally so excited about. And
that's why do you want to do? But a New
Earth is quite literally a new way of humanity growing
and connecting and evolving.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
And I love that you're talking about the technology and
that you're working with the technology because I think, at
least at least in this country, I think people are
so into the newest latest, the high tech, and they're
kind of fixated with that. So you look at the
spirituality and the people that are doing meditation in yoga,
and that seems so kind of old school. So maybe
it's the universe telling us, Hey, if this is what
people need, we're going to give you this technology and

(33:34):
that will be something that they can accept readily to
help propel you into this new earth.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, while still giving you an oasis of personal human
touch exactly. I love that.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Yeah, the technology part is very interesting, and just like
with any tool, intention behind it's very important. Yes, And
I do think with the intention of the heart space
rather than such a hyper focus on the intel llectual
analytical mind, which I have a very strong one. I
come from the sciences. I love it, but we do

(34:06):
need to move into the feeling, the heart experience, the
connective experience more. And so I think technology is almost
kind of paradoxical, but I think that it can help
us illuminate elements of ourselves, so we might not yet
be aware of kind of like our higher minds. I
don't know if we're quite there yet. But at the

(34:29):
same time, it's important to not forget your power and
to give your power away to technology. Then that is
not a upliftment of humanity. So empowering us through technology
in a way that helps us awaken, I think is
really exciting.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
And I think it also brings it to the mainstream
a little bit more because people can understand that, and
then maybe if they can use it as a tool
to use the technology, to not have to rely on
the technology and to not have to call.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Out austrums.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
All right, or become those people in Wally.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
So I have to say, well, I'm very proud of you.
Oh you have not jumped on the aliens that I
was waiting. That would have been the first thing. He is, Wow,
when's it going to happen?

Speaker 1 (35:13):
That I was trying to find the right segue in
and we just got it right. We're talking about Earth,
planet Earth, but there are other planets out there, and
apparently there's all kinds of disclosure events. You've been hearing
about all the time, and you say that meditation might
be a great conduit for us to communicate with extraterrestrials.

(35:35):
Is that right? Yes?

Speaker 3 (35:38):
Ooh, I just sometimes I feel them. So I just
felt a little surge of energy.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
They are very very present in this evolution into a
new Earth, because, like I think, what you're you're kind
of leaning towards is that a new Earth also includes
humanity taking their space and galactic relationship, and we've forgotten
that and we tend to think that we're just kind

(36:05):
of off on our own, but we're so not. And
so I think that's going to propel our understanding of
ourselves as a species. And meditation, I think is absolutely
pivotal to this transition because they communicate through consciousness. That

(36:27):
is their mode of technology, that is their mode of transport,
that is their mode of communication. And so they're very respectful,
free will. They don't want to scare anybody. Is so
if you have an intention of connection, that's the biggest
element of it. But if you've worked with your ability
to enter these nonlinear states of consciousness, that's where they

(36:52):
hang out and that's where they can connect, and they're
much more interested in that relationship than they are in
like showing up in their ships, and though I've experienced
that as well, but the energetic relationship is just I mean,
it's I'm fascinated by it, and it's what I'm very
deep into right now because there's picking up speed as

(37:15):
far as contact.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Well, a couple of things, and bear with me here,
because this is a deep subject for me.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
Oh, I love this subject.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
So when I was in college, I read a book
that scared the Beejesus out of me. It was called Communion.
It was written by Wiley Strieber, and apparently this book
is a recounting of his challenges with visitations. Because of

(37:49):
that book, I slept with the light on for two
weeks in my dorm room. My college roommate still to
this day hates me for it, but it scared me
off from trying to contact. And there's a lot of
talk these days about different types of extraterrestrials and some
that are really cool and some that are freely not.

(38:12):
So a is it fine to let go of that
childhood fear of these grays coming and showing up in
my room in the middle of the night. And if so,
how can I do that.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
Good question.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
A lot to this.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
Sorry, what was that, Karen I said? And if not, if.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
What kind of bazooka am I gonna need to keep
myself safe?

Speaker 3 (38:41):
No? No bazook on Earth. Yeah, these words I mean,
I do. I'm I'm not a huge conspiracy theorist, but
I do think there are a few that are pretty accurate.
And I think one of them is is the kind
of disinformation campaign over the last hundred years around extraterrestrials,

(39:05):
and that goes from media and how the government's spoken
about them. You'll notice it's always spoken about in a
national security threat context. And so I think that there's
a lot that's been planted in humanity's subconscious of fear.
And you're totally right to ask this question early on,
because this is the first practice that when I'm walking

(39:28):
people through contact, we have to talk about this, we
have to talk about the fear. And in my experience,
these when you're reaching in meditation, these frequencies of I
call it love and above. The extraterrestrials are beings that
you contact are going to be in love and above,

(39:49):
some of them so much so that they cannot bring
their frequency down below a certain level, and you can
kind of understand why. It's like, do you bring your
frequency down deep into fear if that's where you had
to meet somebody, and it's like, you know, maybe for
a little while, but we can't do it for that long.

(40:09):
So there's a similar thing going on. The other element
that I think may be the case is that there
are various species. For sure, the ones that I connect
with tend to be of the light being experience, and
I have all kinds of different theories on that, but

(40:30):
I think that these species, if they're intergalactic, they have
evolved to a certain level such that their tendency for
what humans see as conflict and violence and tribalism, they've
all evolved past that on some level. Some of them
might be a little like experimental I think more so

(40:52):
back early on in the nineteen hundreds, as far as
people having these experiences of being waking up in their
room and you know, extra trusts are there. I will
also say extraterrestrials and other spirits are different, so there's
kind of different categories here. I'm talking about extraterrestrials, these benevolent,
highly evolved beings. We could also talk about darker entities

(41:16):
and stuff like that, that those are not necessarily the
same thing. I think they're very different. So if you
wake up in the night and you see something in
your room that's scary, a lot of times that's a
spirit or a amalgam of energy that is not necessarily extraterrestrial.
So there's a lot to this question. And I also

(41:40):
think there may have been a period of time where
they were very interested in our genetics. I think that
time is past. I don't know if it's because we're
getting more unhealthy, but they're not as interested anymore.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
That would explain a lot actually, really, so I.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
Do think there was maybe a period of time where
this was important to them for some reason, I think
their own genetic evolution. But I think that time has
passed and maybe there was some damage done as far
as consent at that point in time. But for me,
I've only ever had benevolent, very interesting, sometimes very intense experiences.

(42:21):
And one of the ways you can work with this,
if you do attempt contact through meditation, is to ask
them to help you with your fear. Because even me,
I had a very intense experience in the desert once
I encountered some fear. I was like, whoa, this is
like a movie level experience. I'm a little freaked out

(42:47):
and they can feel that and hear that. And they're
also not going to push you too far. They always
kind of retreat if they feel like they're coming up
on the edge of your your capabilities. They won't push
you too far, but they also will push you a
little bit, and you got to work with your fear.
So it is an evolution. It is a ongoing dance

(43:09):
of getting to know one another.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
My fear must be ginormous because I've never seen anything
or experienced anything, even though I want to. Like my
father when I was growing up, he was he he
grew up in Cuba, and he said he and a
bunch of different people actually saw a craft. And to
this to that day, he was always watching all the
ancient aliens and all the UFO shows on the what

(43:35):
just to I guess back then was like in search
of with you know, Leonard Needmour and things like that.
And so he instilled this interest in me that has
never gone away, which is why I read the damn book,
which I wish I hadn't read. But but but I've
never I've never seen anything. I've never heard anything or
been contacted by anything, and I really want to, but

(43:57):
I'm really afraid of it. So in like soul, do
you have a track that gets you in contact with
these people?

Speaker 3 (44:04):
So funny you ask, because I'm literally working on that
this kay, right, I'm writing it, and yeah, we've been
doing groups together in real life, but we're going to
create a portal for this experience because I do think
it's it's really entangled with an important to humanity's awakening experience.

(44:25):
I think the two really are intertwined as far as
how we understand and bring more light to our awareness.
They're very excited, They're like, now is the time I've
gotten that message in the last few few weeks. Even
they're very present. And so your willingness you mentioned that

(44:47):
you're like you're excited to have contact. In my experience,
that's the most important ingredient is willingness and then just
starting to sit with the idea that they are out there.
So that's like the first step. And sometimes I have
people just go outside meditate with that intention of like
I'm not alone, I'm reaching out and that's going to

(45:10):
help you start to navigate your fear and kind of understand. Okay, wait,
why am I afraid? What is the worst case scenario here?

Speaker 1 (45:17):
What is robes?

Speaker 3 (45:21):
My husband said, to be honest, here, it's like don't
leave in and not take me. So there's these these
beings are very advanced and very very powerful and an
incredibly loving, Like the amount of love they have for
us is it just it's very intense, And.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
I'm grateful that you've had that wonderful experience. But is
there validity to the fact that there are other races
out there that may not have our best interest in mine?
And if so, how do you when you meditate and
ask for contacts say you don't but I just want them? Right?

Speaker 3 (46:02):
So I think of it in two ways. The first
is and I asked one of the gurus that I
studied with. I asked him this question and he told me.
He was like, well, do you think that everybody in
New York does only good things? Or in any city
in anywhere on earth? And I was like no, And
he's like, so there's variation in what we would consider

(46:26):
good and bad. And I pair this with kind of
what I was speaking to before, which is that these beings,
even the ones even the grays. They are highly evolved,
and there are some rules of engagement when it comes

(46:49):
to interacting with species like us that are not yet
part of the galactic family. So I do think there
is some expectations around these interactions, and there may be
some rogue ones, you know, that might have scared a
few people, but as you can imagine, it's almost like

(47:09):
it's mostly because we don't understand it that we're scared,
and so from their perspective, that was not necessarily their intention.
And they're trying to figure it out too, you know.
They're like they're trying to figure out how to engage
with these populations, and I think the conclusion that they've
come to. My own personal opinion is that it's not

(47:30):
so much with governments. It's through each individual to some
sort of threshold. It's like a grassroots approach to contact.
And I think that's why more and more people are
having their own personal experience, so that when more global
contact happens, you're like, oh, yeah, i've got this, I've
met them.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
That comes to mind is like the ripping of a
band aid, Right, Why don't they just show up on
the ships and go, we're here, right, they just rather
than it's like gues.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
We would panic, Well, you would freak out because they've
seen the movies, they've.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
You know, that this information campaign that they've been they
they wouldn't they wouldn't believe it, and they wouldn't understand
what these beings are actually like. And I think it's
important to them that we don't see them as a
threat and in the context of like national security, Like,
first of all, their technology is so far advanced. There's

(48:26):
I actually talked to a guy that was involved with
the one of the just the congressional hearings, and I
I asked him. I was like, after he'd had some wine,
I'm like, here, here's another glass of wine. But I said,
tell I'm just curious what you're hearing in DC as
far as this conversation that is kind of surprising. And

(48:47):
he's like, well, one, we know that it's not China
or Russia, it's not US as far as what they're
they're seeing and experiencing. And then the other part was
interdimension and I was like, yes, like that is the
direction to go in, is this conversation around interdimensionality. And

(49:09):
so I think there's just so much that we're going
to learn over the next few decades as far as
our relationship to these beings, and I do think some
of it. To your point, different species have different approaches
of contact, and some may have scared us in the past.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
But the way I.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
Approach it is I go into these experiences with an
expectation that whoever I'm connecting with is benevolent and is
love and above. That's part of the meditative process as well,
is getting you into that space so that your calling
card is one of the higher dimensions.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
So I have a question that I'm not even sure
exactly how to ask it or if you could answer it.
But depending on what you believe, when you're here, you
die and then you become part of this collective consciousness.
Are they already part of that collective consciousness or do
they have the same thing where once they die they
become part of that.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Well, they're a different party altogether.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
It's a good question, and I don't know if I
can completely answer it.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Oh come on, Crystal, But I can tell you what.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
My hypothesis is. I think that certain beings live in
certain dimensions and they have developed a collective consciousness, so
many of them that I connect with come from a
collective consciousness, and they have a different relationship to the body.

(50:42):
Some of them still have bodies, So there's a huge
variation here, right. Some of them can materialize in a
full biological form, from a non biological form, from a
like a light being form, some can partially materialize, and
I'm sure there's some that have not yet developed a
light body as like a mode of transportation. And so

(51:04):
I think that's the dimensional part of it, the bending
of space and time as well. But I think what
you're pointing to is the soul. So the soul, from
my experience, is almost like this sphere of energy of
this just like coalesced powerful energy. And when we incarnate

(51:24):
the soul as a sphere, three dimensional sphere, it crystallizes
into a focus point within itself like a diamond, and
that's the incarnation, that's the spirit, that's the personality that
the soul is wanting to understand more of this perspective.
And so you have all these kind of focus points,
and those are the experiences we have as humans, and

(51:45):
probably star seds other experiences on other planets, and so
I think my hypothesis is that they also have this
soul I think maybe the difference is that their focus
point is broader. It's not quite coming down as specifically,

(52:06):
and so it's encompassing more and more, almost potentially totally
to a soul, pure consciousness, pure awareness state. I think
that my hypothesis is that that's the difference. But I
would think they still have a soul component and that
in some field, in some experience, we are all the

(52:30):
same in that soul component.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
And there's even a theory that they might be us
evolved in the future, coming back in time. Right, So yeah,
that would be a yes, I would say answer that
pr Yeah, this is such a deep rabbit hole to
fall into because one of the things that I have

(52:53):
resisted watching has been stuff about skin Walk or Ranch.
And there's a lot of conversation too for those that
are listening who aren't familiar with skin Walker Ranch to
ranch out in is it Texas or Utah or something
like that, that strange things are happening. They've recorded different
things and apparently things attached to you when you visit

(53:17):
there and come with you at home, and all kinds
of really freaky stuff. And they're all talking about this
being extraterrestrial related, which is really scary stuff, which adds
to it's all dark. It's pretty dark. Yeah, I don't think.
I don't think I remember anything coming out of Skinwalker
Ranch who that wasn't dark. I could be completely mistaken it.

(53:37):
Like I said, I haven't really followed up on it
too much because I don't want to follow down that
fear rabbit hole. But do you think that is part
of the whole disinformation campaign or is this a legit
thing that we're digging up the depths of hell.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
I don't pay too much attention to those stories. I
don't think that it fuels the direction that we're needing
to go in contact with our our star brother and sisters.
I will also say there are dark things out there
and when I was, especially in the first few years
of awakening, as I mentioned at the beginning, as you

(54:12):
turn that knob of light up, you see more. Part
of what you see more of is disembodied consciousness is
I even had an experience with a very demonic entity
that was full on like poultrygeist in my room, like
bed was shaking. I mean, it was a battle, and

(54:33):
there was a reason for those energies. They serve a
purpose for me. Encountering the things that you would most
fear in a movie like just imagine the scariest image.
I don't like to talk about exactly what it was,
but it enabled me to step into my power in
my light, because there's no way that your soul can

(54:56):
be harmed by these things. There's no way that your
highest self can be harmed. So all of these conversations
about fear are really asking us to remember that that
I've gotten to the point to where I can come
across some pretty dark stuff every now and then, not
as much as I used to because I don't tune
into it anymore, but it just it reminds me to

(55:17):
step into my light and my power, and I don't
get thrown off by those things anymore. So it does
make me wonder with places like Skinwalker Ranch, I would
wonder if that is actually extraterrestrial, or if that is
some other energies that are asking people to come into
their power.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
That's an excellent point I'm glad you made because I'm
a big proponent of Bob Monroe in the Monroe Institute.
I've been interested in out of body travel for a
very long time, never been successful, but I'm not bitter
about that at all. But in his books he does
talk about encountering these types of negative energies that could

(56:03):
instill fear in someone to prevent them from astral travel. Again,
not bitter, but I'm a very fearful man. Aren't they
all the smokes anyway? But in later experiences or experiments,
he realized that a lot of those negative things he
was experiencing were aspects of his own psyche that were
actually telling him, showing themselves to him so that he

(56:24):
can overcome them. So I'm wondering if they had a
lot to do that as the world starts getting batshit
crazier and crazier, maybe things like Skinwalker Rancher saying hello,
do you not see yourself? So that's how I'm choosing
to look at it.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
Yeah, Yeah, I think there's there's some real truth to that.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Go one. Yay, all right, this has been a beautiful conversation.
You are amazing. You're an incredible soul If if someone
speaking for a friend would like to get involved with
soul pods, but how do I do that or how
does that person do that?

Speaker 3 (57:00):
You can find us at soulpodapp dot com. You can
find us in the app store as well, and we're
on Instagram, soulpod app, and we play around on TikTok.
We're still figuring that out, but yeah, we have a
lot of fun. We have an event coming up in
October in I think we're going to be in northern California.

(57:22):
We're partnering with another organization, so we'll be talking about
that soon. And then we have a retreat in April
of next Year's our next retreat in Joshua Tree.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
Oh wow, all kinds of cool stuff. And can people
find out about that information at soul pod app? Yeah,
I wouldn't think so you can.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
You can find it at if you join soul pod app,
you'll get all that information. You can also join our
newsletter and stay in tune that way.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
Okay, excellent. We're going to add a direct link in
our show notes, so if you want to download the
app or connect with Crystal anyway, all you need to
do is go to skeptic position dot com, go to
her episode page. You'll see the show notes. You'll see
the link listed in the show notes, so it's easy
for you to do.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
So.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
I can't thank you enough for coming and expanding our consciousness.
Thank you for being on the show.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
Thank you so much for having me. This isn't so fun.

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