The Truth About #Abundance: Why You’re Still Living on Crumbs

What happens when your entire relationship with money, worthiness, and abundance is built on stories you absorbed before you were old enough to understand them? And what if those stories are the very things keeping you stuck, small, and spiritually exhausted?
 
In this powerful, hilarious, and deeply human conversation, we sit down with Sarah Walton... speaker, teacher, money mentor, and creator of The Abundance Academy...to dismantle the myths that keep so many of us living on emotional and financial crumbs. 

Sarah’s journey begins in a grocery store in Utah, where teenage Sarah realizes she must choose between her family’s survival and her own dreams. That moment shapes decades of decisions, right up until she’s a high-powered corporate executive with a corner office, a ficus tree, two kids she barely sees… and a constant sense that something is deeply off. 

Her story is raw, relatable, and a wake-up call for anyone who has ever believed “I can’t have both,” “there’s not enough,” or “wanting more makes me selfish.” 

In This Episode, We Explore:
1. The Three Money Myths Holding You Back
Borrowed from Lynn Twist’s The Soul of Money, and expanded through Sarah’s teaching:

• Myth #1: There’s Not Enough — The scarcity mindset that keeps us hoarding, shrinking, and apologizing for wanting more.
• Myth #2: More Is Better — The endless treadmill of “just one more digit,” and why it never creates fulfillment.
• Myth #3: That’s Just the Way It Is — The resignation that kills change before it starts… and repeats the same life over and over.

2. Sarah’s Grocery Store Origin Story
How a moment in high school shaped her entire belief system, and how she ultimately broke free after realizing her life was being run by a terrified 16-year-old.
 
3. The Corporate Career Wake-Up Call
The ficus tree. The Jimmy Choos. The constant nausea. The toddler calling her at work. The ticking clock she couldn’t un-hear. And the moment she quit her job that same day.
 
4. How to Stop Living on Crumbs
Sarah explains how to recognize when you’re accepting far less than you deserve... emotionally, energetically, financially — and how to shift into true agency and abundance.
 
5. The Exercises That Rewire Your Brain
Accessible, free, science-backed practices that change your inner chemistry and create real momentum toward your goals.
 
6. A Baymax-Shaped Money Spiritual Guide??
Yes. And honestly… it’s perfect. Sarah shares how she personifies money as a loving, warm, always-present protector inspired by Big Hero 6, and why that exercise changed her life.
 
7. Curveball Questions — Sarah Walton Edition
You know we had to. Sarah reveals:

• The one push notification she’d send to every phone on Earth
• The sassiest loving advice she’d whisper to the world
• And who money would be as a movie character...complete with monologue

Key Takeaways

• Most people’s money fears come from childhood, but adulthood offers the chance to rewrite the script.
• Wanting more doesn’t make you greedy; it makes you honest.
• You don’t need millions of followers, you just need the right “small but mighty” group who values your work.
• Awareness is the first step to freedom, especially when it comes to money.
• It is dangerous, spiritually, emotionally, financially, to believe “this is just the way things are.”

Tools, Links & Resources Mentioned
Sarah Walton’s Website https://sarahwalton.com
Includes her free Freedom Calculator - a PDF that helps you determine your personal financial freedom number and start moving toward it with clarity and purpose.
 
Game On Girlfriend Podcast - Sarah’s show 

YouTube Channel - More teachings, stories, and money-myth busting. 

🔥 Final Thought
This episode is a call to stop negotiating with scarcity, stop apologizing for wanting more, and stop accepting crumbs when you were born to own the bakery.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Karen, Yes, do you remember that time when I looked
at our bank account and thought, uh, Universe, I thought
we agreed in abundance. Apparently I have been manifesting tuponds.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Okay, an abundance.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Of couconos or like five percent of all the all
of the above, all the above, see okay. Our guest
went from childhood where money was, let's say, scarce, to
building this powerhouse mission that helps women stop living on
emotional and financial crumps and actually step into the life

(00:42):
that they're here to, living like the real one, not
to be grateful for the bare minimum and smile one
that we are told about. Right, She's basically the love
child of a mindset coach, a business strategist, and that
one friend who will lovingly call you on your bullshit
while handing you a latte and a hug. And I
know what you're thinking, Karen. Yes, she did say we

(01:03):
all need to stop apologizing for wanting more thinking, but
I know you were about to. I'm going to be
putting out that T shirt anyway, but we're busting those
pesky money myths that has kept us always wishing for
more Because we were about to step out of the
crumbs and into the whole damn bakery. Welcome to the
Skeptic Benevolicians. My name is Will and I'm garous, and

(01:24):
unlike moulderin Scully.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Both want to believe.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
So we've embarked in a journey of discovery.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and
metaphysical world.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even
joined a coven of witches and wait, you joined a
coven yep, all the interests of finding something, anything that
will prove that there's something beyond this physical.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Three dimensional world we all live in.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
This is the skeptic metapositions. Hey there, it's Will. The
main reason we do this show is to help others
in their spiritual awakening, and nothing makes us happier than
to hear or read messages from those that are resonating

(02:08):
with the messages we're sharing on the show. So if
you have a moment, we love for you to leave
us a review on Apple Podcasts or any other podcasting
platform that supports them. Karen and I love hearing from
those that are moved to message us. It truly does
fuel our passion. You are the reason we do this show,
and knowing what you like and don't like, well, that's

(02:28):
going to help us craft the very best show we
can so that we can help raise the vibration of
the planet together. Okay, I've kept you from the interview
long enough, so let's get to it. Thanks for listening. Hey,
thereon will welcome to another soul expanding, belief busting. Oh
so that's why my life has been like that episode
of the Skeptic Metaphysitions. This show that reminds you that

(02:51):
the universe didn't put you here to play small, even
if your bank account occasionally tries to say otherwise. Today's
guest is a firecracker, and not the you light once
and forget it. No, No, this one lights you up.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
See.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
She grew up with money being let's call it a
creative improvisational art form, then went on to work in
a high powered corporate space, and somewhere along the way realized, wait,
women are running households, raising families, holding emotional space for
literally everyone, and we're still apologizing for wanting abundance. Absolutely not.
So she build a mission, not a business, a mission

(03:26):
to help women stop living on crumbs, step into their power,
value their gifts, and actually get paid for the magic
that they put into the world. She's equal parts hype woman, strategists,
spiritual cheerleader, and the person who will lovingly look you
in the eyes and say you deserve more and you
know it. Please welcome Sarah Walton to the show. Sarah,
how are you doing today?

Speaker 4 (03:46):
I'm awesome. Well, you guys, thank you so much for
having me on. I'm thrilled to be here.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
We are beyond excited to have you. I did a
very deep dive on your stuff, and to say that
I'm excited, it's to say it lightly. However, question I
got to ask is apparently I'm lacking some of the
plumbing that is necessary for the conversation because you're all
about women, right, So is this only exclusive to women,

(04:11):
this conversation that we're about to have.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
It is not exclusive to women.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
No.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
I do find that women have been programmed in a
very different way from when when it comes to money, right,
and our worthiness and you know this idea that we're
even supposed to handle it like for so many hundreds
of years, women were handed from fathers to husbands, right,
and we were a financial burden. We never touched the money,
and it's only been fifty years that we've been able

(04:37):
to have our own credit cards and our own mortgages
without a man's signature. So there is still some residual
gunk if you're well women that men don't have to carry.
So while the conversation can absolutely work with both, there
is some specialty to working with women specifically about this.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Okay, I'm glad to hear that because I was, like
I said, diving into your website and there's a lot
of stuff in there that's really good that I really need.
So I was really hoping that you'd say what you said.
So though, yes, I completely understand the reasoning for the
conversation being in that direction, but I'm glad to know
that it's for me too.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
I mean, that's why I kept my last name. That is, Yes,
women were property.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
I'm not speak on I care and speak on. Yeah,
it's true, it's just a little different, that's all. What
the main principles do apply. Well, great question, All right.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
All right, well then let's let's get the conversation started
with the grocery store. You mentioned that there was a
moment in the grocery store that changed everything for you.
Can you take us back to that moment in what
shifted inside you?

Speaker 4 (05:44):
I can. It's a tiny bit of a story. If
that's okay, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
We've got that hour and a half.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
No, just you knows and glasses then no, I'm just kidding.
It's not that long. But when I was about four
or five years old, I was watching The Nutcracker with
my mom. PBS was having their fundraisers for those of
you that don't remember PBS right that used to have
fundraisers where you could call in and donate money so
that these great programs could stay.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
On the air.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
And I was watching The Nutcracker and I remember turning
to my mom. I was like, I don't know what
this is, but I want to do that, and just
looking at this dance as this beautiful art form, and
that stuck with me all throughout my teenage years and
well into my twenties. But for the purposes of this story,
it took me to high school where I really wanted
to become part of the dance team, and this was

(06:28):
something that was such a big deal where I was raised.
I was a raised in a little town called Sandy Utah,
just outside of Salt Lake City, and it was a
big deal to make the high school dance team, like
this was like the thing to do, And so it
came time for me to try out. We couldn't really
afford for me to take dance classes. This was not
something that we could do. So I learned how to

(06:50):
dance by watching MTV. So Janet Jackson and Paula Abduel
were my idols. They taught me how to dance. They
just what and so I really was not trained and
classically by any sense of that word.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
But I tried out.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
I worked my rear randof I remember practicing in the basement,
my knees hurt, I had bruises, I knew how to
throw chairs and you know, do all of the amazing
Rhythm Nation moves. And I made the team. And I
was so stick and excited. And I was in this
really tight knit community where everybody sort of knew what
was happening for other people. So people were bringing over
single roses. It was this huge thing. Sarah made the

(07:25):
dance team, Oh my god. And then I got the
letter that talks about how much this is going to cost,
and you know, I don't know, if you guys have
ever had one of those experiences where you're like up
out of your body and you sort of watch yourself
go through something, it's like, oh, that's happening right now.
It's like that. You know, my hands got sweaty, my

(07:45):
stomach fell through the floor. And I remember looking at
this letter. You know, it had the jacket. It was
the nineties, so it was like a unit tard right,
the shoes, the competition, fees, all the thing, and there
was just no way. There was no way we could
have this because at this time we were so poor.
When I say poor, people are like, oh no, we

(08:06):
were so poor that there were times literally the only
things in the pantry was like a half a loaf
of bread my mother had made from scratch and a
jar of honey the end, like that was it. So
when I say this was like not affordable, I meant this,
this really wasn't affordable. And it was this stream since
I'd had since i'd seen the Nutcracker, So I know
you're surprised, but I was very frisky, and I decided

(08:29):
to get a job, the job at the mall. And
for those of you that are so young, you don't
know what a mall is. I love you, but you're
TH's okay. So I went and I got a job
at the mall, and I was ready one of those
little kiosks, those little like carts where you sell chrach
keys nobody needed. But it was like, you know, the
late eighties, early ninety so it was cool. People were
buying stuff they didn't need all the time anyway, So

(08:49):
I sold these choch keys. I did this thing, and
I got my first paycheck, and I was so excited
because it was enough for the down payment on my
dance costumes. And so at the time, I did have
a bank account, and people used to be in customer
service back then, like it was actually a thing. So
you could go to the grocery store and wait in
the customer service line and cash checks.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
So my mom takes me to the grocery store. It's
just me and my younger half brother, and we're walking
into the grocery store to cash this check and my
mom turns to me and says, Sarah, the groceries, Sorry,
the strawberries are on sale. Can we get some? So
I'm thinking of the strawberries, and I'm thinking of my
dance costumes. And I'm like, eh, yes, we can do that.
So I go get my check cashed. She goes to

(09:31):
get the strawberries with my younger brother. And now that
I have the like the cash in hand, I go
to find them in line at the grocery store, like
at one of the aisles, and they're not there.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
I look at the.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
Express aisle and I keep going back and forth, and
finally I see them in line with a cart full
of groceries. And this is a cart full of groceries.
I know my mother cannot afford. There's no way she
can afford this cart. And I'm looking at it. I
see my younger half brother sitting in the cart and
his little leg swinging rodever, and I see his favorite
breakfast cereal milk, cold cuts for his lunches, right bread,

(10:06):
the strawberries, And I'm standing there, you guys, and I
have a choice. Right with this money that I have,
I can either take care of my family or I
can get something for myself I've wanted for as long
as I can remember. But I cannot do both. And
in that moment, I made a decision that I would
never be able to take care of both my family
and myself at the same time. And I lived that out.

(10:31):
I have sixty five cousins. I am the first woman
in my family to have a college degree.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Right.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
I moved to Europe after I graduated college. I moved
to New York City. I got this high powered job.
I'm quote unquote killing it.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Right.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
Everything looks great. I now have two children. I'm making
all this money, and I am miserable. And I remember
sitting in my corporate job, at this great corner office.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Right.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
My team is out there, I can see them. I
have a fighter tree in my office. Right, I feel
very cool. I have Jimmy shoes shoes like like I accept.
I'm like nauseous all the time. And I never seen
my children. And there was one day my daughter called me.
I think she was eighteen months too, right, just barely
can talk. But it was miss you, mommy. Oh I die. Right.

(11:17):
So I'm sitting there. I hang up the phone, and
I'm hearing the clock in my office take away the
seconds of my life. And it's just that these I
can't get that second back, and I can't get that
second back, and I can't get that second back, and
all of a sudden In that moment, I remembered the
sixteen year old girl in the grocery store who decided
she could never take care of her family and herself

(11:38):
at the same time. And that sixteen year old girl
was still running my life. And I'm sitting there in
this office realizing I'm making all this money for my
family and I am so unhappy. And that was the
moment I decided to figure this out in a different way,
and I decided I was always the only woman in
the room as a senior executive. It was me and

(11:59):
the head of HR right, the only women. We're doing
financial protections, which is fourth grade math, right, Now, here's proprietary.
Why am I constantly the only woman? What is happening here?
And why am I afraid to actually take care of
myself and my family instead of or And that was
the day I stopped letting that grocery store moment run

(12:21):
my life. And what sort of made that really poignant
is I did end up quitting my job that day,
and I remembered buying the groceries for my family that day,
which is what I chose to do. And another mom
in the community found out what had happened. She'd heard
about what had happened. It still makes me cry to

(12:41):
this day. But she paid for my dance costumes.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
And in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, sorry, right before COVID hit,
I decided to host a conference in Salt Lake City,
and so all the people that live with me on
the East Coast now came out to Salt Lake City.
All of the people from high school, young people that
I'd known. Two worlds kind of collided at this conference.
And the woman who bought my costumes came to the conference,

(13:05):
and I got to bring her up on the stage
and thank her publicly or how much she had changed
my life. And it was so moving. And there are
people who know this is my quote unquote grocery store story, right,
they know this story. But it was so beautiful to
be able to bring her up and thank her and
let everybody in the audience know. I wouldn't be there
had she not done that, had she not been a

(13:26):
woman who had access to money who changed someone else's life.
And it was really beautiful because she actually passed away
in twenty twenty, and so I was so grateful I
got to have that moment with her and really bring
this story to light for people to say, this really
is what women do when they have money, and we
never know the ripple effects of what that will end
up being. Right.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
I heard that story and another podcast, and that is
the sole reason why I've reached out to you to
come on the show, because that is a remarkable story
and it's a story that so many people in different
situations but can resonate with that it's an important one
to get out. So thank you very much for taking
the time and telling us that story, because it definitely

(14:08):
moved me the very first time. It moved me the
second time.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
So wow, Yeah, that's just wonderful.

Speaker 5 (14:12):
So how do you let that go, that that decision
that you made, because so many of us, like Will said,
have been in kind of similar situations and you can say, oh, yeah,
I can see how this affected me, But how do
you get past that?

Speaker 4 (14:27):
Yeah? I think I think recognizing it is a lot
of the game, was it? Yeah, so many people have
said ninety percent of success is showing up, right, but
showing up in that moment and really recognizing that it
happened and then deciding do you want to continue to
let a teenager run your life or not? And that
sounds really simplistic, but you know, do look at world
leaders at the moment. We look not the moment forever,

(14:49):
world leaders forever. We look at people out there. We
can see a bunch of four and five year olds running, yes,
you know, like, oh, a four year old got stuck,
and like you're like, oh, I see what's happening.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Here, d right, and now that's doing a tantrum and
taking us along with it, you know, right.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
I just take your pick, you can make it fit.
But it's really interesting to sort of recognize as human beings,
we get stuck at moments and we let that child,
whoever that child is, take over and they start running
the show. And I think when we see that and
we recognize this, every single one of us, none of
us is special. No one gets out of childhood without
this happening. And I think when we can sort of

(15:27):
step into that shared humanity piece, it's not so scary
to talk about it. It's and the more we all
talk about it, the more other people recognize it, and
just that recognition alone can really start to heal it.
And I think what's so important about that fact is
we want to grow. It is a human need to grow.
When we are not growing, we are not contributing, we

(15:49):
don't do well, We start to ruminate, we start to
get anxious, we start to get depressed. And so I
think we do have this natural propensity towards healing. And
so once you can see the moment alone, that alone
is so powerful. It starts to make habits that you
are quote unquote just this way right, habits that have
just been this way forever, all of a sudden they

(16:10):
become quite malleable, and it's really efficient to see them
and quickly go, oh, oh, was that the sixteen year
old in the grocery store or is that the thirty
six year old woman? Hang on right, and you start
to just in the moment, start to unfold that. And
that really is what I did. I mean, quitting my
job that day was a big piece of that. It

(16:31):
was incredibly scary. I don't mean to say that flippantly.
It was terrifying, but it was so I just knew
it was necessary. It was like I've made this in
either or. And the more that I now teach abundance
and talk about abundance constantly as a concept, is people
who are truly abundant in this world are never either
or they are always both.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Right.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
You can have this or this both automatic answer both right,
And it's not out of selfishness. It's out of I'm
not going to live inside of limitations. Let me figure
this out, let me see what's actually possible, and that's
when the new opportunities arise. You can only find what
we're looking for, so if we're looking for you, or
that's what you'll find if you're looking for both.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Which then leads us right into the perfect segue to
the money myths. Right on your site. You've got a
great video that you get when you sign up for
your Freedom Calculator, which we'll talk about, which I love
and I mentioned before we started recording fell in love
with it. It's so much so that I changed everything about
the interview to circle around these three. You have three

(17:37):
money myths that you talk about, So can you walk
us through those? Because it goes hand in hand with
the whole abundance thing.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
Yes, it absolutely does, and I want to I always,
you know, in this day and age where everybody on
the internet knows everything, I always love to give credit
where credit is due. So these three myths I learned
about first in a book called The Soul of Money,
which I highly recommend by the author's Linn Twist and
just an exquisite book. But these three myths I sort
of took from that book and have expanded and looked at.

(18:04):
But myth number one is that there's not enough. And
this one is just so hideous. I hate this one
so much, but there's not enough, and what I love
to talk about I have a very funny YouTube video
about that too that I do about kids who are
taught to play musical chairs and you take the way chair.
We're literally teaching scarcity to our children. But anyway, okay,

(18:25):
that's another story for another time. But yeah, So the
myth that there's not enough and what I love to
talk about here is just go to I'd like you
to look at a garbage can in an amusement park.
It's disgusting. There's so much food in there. There's so
much food in there, and yet people are starving, right,
But we live in this myth of there's not enough.
So there's not enough. We have plenty of water, and

(18:45):
we can drop bombs within inches of where they're supposed
to go, but we can't drop food water in medicine.
What are you talking about? What? Right? So this idea
there's not enough, there's more than enough. Right, we live
into the myth that there's not enough when we start
to hoard, which is completely against our nature.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Right.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
I mean, I'm sure you've seen this conversation sort of
come up lately as extreme wealth has started to become
more of our consciousness. But this idea that could you
imagine a squirrel cowarding all the acorns and all of
their family dies, That's like not a thing in nature, Like,
that's not how that would go, ever, and it would
be very weird, and we would actually study that animal
and be like, what is wrong with the.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Right, Like it's so weird.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
But it is because we were born into this myth
that there's not enough. The second myth is more as better,
And this one is brutal because it will not let
you relax. So you've made ten million, well ten million
and one is better, and so you can't ever be satisfied.
You can't ever just experience life because there's this constant

(19:55):
more as better, more as better, more as better. And
we know this myth isn't true logically, we know it,
Like I always joke about people who are like, I
want a really big house, and then they get the house,
they're like, who the hell's cleaning this thing? You know,
like every mom I just went ah every day too.
Now I have to fix the gutter. I gotta do
this every weekend. Is now like damn this house, right,

(20:17):
this more is better thing. It can get It can
get old real quick, right, Like, we can really start
to see that that's probably not true, but it is
so part of the air that we breathe from the
second that we're born, that it's it. It crowds into
the mind in a way that we're not even aware of.
And so the more I can talk about with this
with people, I do, because it starts to again the recognition.

(20:40):
You can start to see it in different ways, and
people start putting step back. We have the minimalist movement
that's happening. People are starting to like, I only buy
buy clothes from thread up, which is a great app
I highly recommend it. Right, I always get secondhand closed
because there's enough clothes, right, I don't need any Like
this is crazy. This idea that we constantly need more
is ruining our ability to enjoy our lives and that's

(21:03):
that's really dangerous. And then the third myth is, well,
that's just the way it is, right.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
That's my favorite one.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
Because that one keeps the other two locked in, right,
because it's like, oh, well, if that's just the way
it is, I'm just going to go over and eat
a pizza, Like what am I going to do? Right,
And it allows us to sort of shrug things off
or to just you know, say things like, well, you
know what, kids are going to starve. That is just
the way it is. What what more is better? When
other people don't have any what are you talking about?

(21:35):
Like I said, this would be the squirrel that we
would study, like what is wrong with you? And so
if we can work through that last myth that is
so insidious and so lets us off the hook from
expanding ourselves, from asking questions, for looking at where both
is possible. It is so dangerous to stay in that
place that's shrugging. Uh, that's you know, that's just the

(21:56):
way it is. And that's what allows us to have
tomorrow look exactly like today, and three weeks from now
look exactly like today, right, and then we stop looking
at the actions of today that can absolutely alter what
tomorrow looks like, what the next day looks like, what
the next three weeks look like, and we stay in
this pattern of no, this is just who I am,
this is just the way this is. It's like now

(22:18):
all of that is made up, and as soon as
we can start to live in the magic of that,
things really start getting good.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Right, So I can see how I've been kept in
Crumb City. Right, those three are very much in my lane.
It's always been the way. It's always I need to
I need to have more, I need to have more.
I've been an upwardly mobile man my entire career because

(22:44):
I've I've got I've got to go, what's the next step?
What's the next step?

Speaker 4 (22:47):
I got to then?

Speaker 1 (22:48):
And it is just the way it is, right, So
all three of those are amazing the difference what I
what I do. And we've done the show now for
four years going on five years, and we've thank you
and we've done We've had these conversations a lot with
different people, and it's a really easy thing to say,

(23:08):
stop thinking these things or stop doing what you're doing.
It's a lot harder to actually do it because there's
this law of attraction thing, right, that says, if you
wish for it hard enough, and you can't wish for it,
you have to know it's coming, but you can't have

(23:28):
any doubt because if you have a doubt, it immediately
cancels everything out. So you're constantly like, oh, so you're
trying to write, So how does someone juggle all these
tenets that are being thrown at us in terms of
building abundance while still staying inside the crumbs?

Speaker 4 (23:50):
Yeah? I met, May I have another? You like, lets
take it as little as I can. Yeah, So I
do have like a couple of that exercises. If you
guys want to do them, it's cool. What I love
about this is they're totally free, completely accessible. You can
have them whenever you want, and they absolutely change the
chemistry of your brain if you want to do them.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
I mean, you were just saying, yes, man, may have another?

Speaker 4 (24:11):
All right, So these are just these are tiny, tiny things,
but they really are life changing. And the first one
I like to do, especially when you're nervous, they say,
you're looking at the promotion, You're looking at the ladder,
you're looking at what's next, You're looking at your bank account.
You're freaking out whatever's happening right in this moment is
to put both your feet on the floor and wiggle
your toes. Swear to God, it just pulls you back

(24:33):
out of the mayhem of your own mind and go,
wait a second, I'm here and I'm fine, And that
sounds crazy, but I have done this when I'm you know,
doing massive presentations, when we're doing venture capital pitching. I've
done it before, getting on big stages. I've done it
when you know, you get the surprise bill out and
you're like, where what the I didn't have that in
the line? You know what I mean, all these things
that can happen is just pull yourself back in your

(24:54):
body for sec just will your toes. And what I
love is nobody knows you're doing it. So even if
you know you're a tough conversation with a spouse or
someone you love and you're talking about money and you're
starting to like do the thing where you're like the
Tasmanian Devil's in your head and just wiggle your toes,
all of a sudden you can't do both. You can't
both wiggle your toes and let the Tasmanian devil take over.

(25:16):
So it just gives you a hot second to go,
hold on, we're a really smart person. Let me just
see what's happening here. And that pause alone can make
a big difference. So there's one. The other thing I
love to help people do is to flip your perspective
on things. And the easiest, fastest way to do this
is to start to notice the space around objects instead

(25:37):
of the objects themselves. So, for example, like in front
of me right now, I can see my camera and
it's on a tripod, so I would be looking at
the space in between the tripod. I'd be looking at
the space around my camera. For those of you that
are watching, you could see there's a chair behind me,
there's a tree, but you wouldn't be noticing those. You'd
be noticing the outline around my head. Say, all of
the space that's there. And once we start to do that,

(25:59):
what you're doing as you're training your brain to start
to notice how much space there is. And that is
a flip from looking at what is finite scarcity? Right
what is finite is the camera begins and ends, the
tree behind me begins and ends. No, but the space
does not begin an end. For those of you, if
you're driving, please keep your eyes on the road, but

(26:20):
you look off right. I do notice all of the
sky versus the trees, or all of the skies versus
the mountains or whatever's around it. You actually notice the sky.
There is so much, and that starts to teach you
to look at there's enough right there. You've started to
see that the tow wiggling is like, this is just
the way it is. I'm going to freak out. Nope,
all of a sudden that changes. It's not just the
way it is right for there's not enough. You start

(26:42):
to look there, and then for more is better. I
like to use sunlight. And for those of you if
you're listening to this or watching this at night, look
at moonlight or the light outside. But just notice how
many surfaces the sun touches every day. You don't even
take it even we just take it for granted, we
just walk right by it. But if you actually look
at every single place that the sun touches, right, you

(27:05):
can see how necessary shadow is. It's not always that
more is better, but that where it is, it can flourish,
and anything can flourish, life can flourish wherever the sunline
hits same with the moonlight at night and that piece
that that creates. But there's also shadow always and this
idea that more of everything is better no, because and
there's no contrast and you can't actually enjoy what is.

(27:27):
So those are kind of my three. They're totally free.
You have complete access to them whenever you want, and
nobody has to know what you're doing, just sort of
your perspective, right, I know secrets.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Right, and I may or may not have been wiggling
my toes this entire time. You never know, you know
about shoes that.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
You know, you don't know what I'm doing. Yeah, it's
really effective. It really does work. You start to rewire
your brain to notice things you haven't seen before, and
that is the key. That really literally is the key.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Right, So then how do you take that and apply
that to your financial house?

Speaker 1 (28:03):
We need to take a quick pause, but would be
right back right after these messages and now back to
the show.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
So then how do you take that and apply that
to your financial house?

Speaker 4 (28:16):
I love this, Okay, So let's go back to this
idea of a surprise bill for example, right that comes
in and you're like son of a gun. Right, it
might be like Sarah Walton, I'm not going to look
at sunshine. I have a bill to pay, and I'll
be like, I get that. I totally got that, like
stupid lady on a podcast I heard once, I feel you. Yeah,
And so what you want to do is notice that

(28:38):
the bill itself is there, right, It's real, it's there,
and then you take a second and just look up
and not just that difference from like focusing on it, panicking,
trying to look it up online, trying to get your
like that thing that we get into is you.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Just noticed that.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
You go, Okay, this came in. This was a surprise.
I wasn't expecting it. We just take a sec and
you start to notice like, okay, I don't know. Let's
say it was a three hundred and fifty dollars bill whatever, right,
it comes in and you know you're like, okay, so
there's a three hundred and fifty dollars swing here. I
wasn't expecting. Where can that come from? What could I do?

(29:14):
What have I forgotten about? And you just start to
notice things and all of a sudden you're like, oh
my god, I forgot to invoice that client. Oh that's right,
I have paid PTO at my work. Oh, you know what,
that's absolutely right. So and so called me and asked
me about something and I didn't call them back, and
that might be a job. I don't know. There's so
many things other I've had other people say things. This

(29:34):
is one of my favorites. Somebody was around ten thousand
dollars and she was like, what the flip? And I
was like, just sit with it for a hot second.
Let's see what happens. But just be open to the
fact that you've forgotten where ten thousand dollars is. And
I know that sounds very woo woo and crazy, I know,
but she actually did. She'd had stocks sitting somewhere she
completely forgot about from her previous job, and of course
it was like eleven thousand, three hundred dollars or something, right.

(29:56):
And what happens is it's not that this is magical
thinking and stuff magically falls at your head. No, But
what happens is you retrain your brain to look for it,
and that little tiny shift in looking for it gives
it room to show up. And when I first started
talking about this, people are like, no, that's not how

(30:16):
many works. It totally is how many works, is how
anything in our lives works. And one of the examples
I like to give is say you know, you're looking
for a new car whatever, and you decide to buy
a white Toyota. You're thinking about it, You're like, yeah,
I think it's the white Toyota. You go outside, what
do you see.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
Everywhere?

Speaker 4 (30:36):
It's like this used to be a lot more funny
when we didn't have Ciri. But I'd be like, what
the dealership just knows what you want? Right now? I'm like, oh,
you're like the extras. She's looking at that like, that's
not what happens at all. It's called your reticular activating system.
It's in your brain and you tell it what to
focus on and it will find it. And I had

(30:56):
one client who was like, I'm doing that with lime
green cars. She cracks me up. Has to be defiant, right,
I was like, great, do it with lime green cars.
She's like, every time I go out, there's at least three.
I'm like, really, I've never seen one. And of course
now I see that. You know, It's like, that's really
how it works. And those of you that have teenagers,
I want you to think about this. You will not
allow yourself to lie about this.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Right.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
This is where it gets tricky for people like you know,
I'm like, a million dollars does not fall on your head.
That's not how this works. What you say you can
see you will make real. And anyone who has a teenager,
I'm going to give you a scenario. You're like, oh, schmuckers,
She's right, this does work. So it's like my favorite, like,
you're at dinner, right, You're sitting down and someone's like, oh,
I forgot the salt. You're like, great, could you go

(31:38):
grab it. It's in the kitchen and the cupboard to
the left of the stove. Right. So the kid goes
in this not in here, Yes it is. It's one
the second not here. The kid is not lying. The
kid has decided it's not there. The kid, but they
literally cannot see it. The kids see it, it's just
not there. And you walk it in. It's right in
front of there. They're like, it wasn't that. I swear right,

(31:58):
they're not lying. That's how powerful that belief system releases.
It has happened to all of us in the grocery
store too, right, I can't find it. I can't find it.
I can't find it, you asked the person.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
They're like, it's right.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
It's because we won't lie. We will not allow ourselves
to lie. So when we say I can't make money,
when we say I can't find it, when we say
this is too hard, when we say it's scary, it's
not for me, it's really easy for that lady to
say because she has it, that you will make true.
And it's not like be careful of what you say,
Oh my god, it's not to live like that. It's

(32:30):
to say, well, what happened missed? Where is there an
opportunity I'm going to play the game. I want to
only see black lexus. That's what I want to see
outside what what happens? Start playing the game. And so
if it's like, oh I really do want to take
care of this surprise bill, where would that come from?
And that question alone will have you start to think

(32:52):
about things that weren't there. You know, I have an
old Instagram post. So when I have a new boyfriend
and he was going through my old Instagram and he
on this picture, I was like, oh wow, that's nice.
I was my prom right. I'm like, thanks baby, thanks
for finding out. But it was my prom photo, right,
and there was a dress I really wanted and I'm
wearing it in the photo, but it was like, how
could I get that? And I learned how to do,

(33:15):
you know, nails, and I did all my friends nails
for prom and That's how I got the dress. It
wasn't because I'm like, I'm so studious and hard working.
I asked the question, how could I do that? If
I wanted that, what would I do? How could I
do it? Where would it be? And just those opening
questions start to change things. So when you go into
your bank account and you're not happy with what you see,

(33:38):
it's not whoe is me? See I knew that, stupid
lady and the picture was crazy. I can't make it.
Whatever you're doing that, you just sit back and go, well, okay,
So it's it's I don't know, let's make something up.
Say you want to have a ten thousand dollars emergency fund,
right A lot of people are going through that right now,
you have five hundred dollars a year, and you're like, oh,
they were going to have it, and it's like okay,
but if it did, how would that happen? How would

(33:59):
that happen and you actually allow the ideas to come in.
Because here's what people don't understand, this woo woo world.
I know, coaches, I put myself in this category. I
know there's a lot of entrepreneur porn out there.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
People.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
I'm apologizing for that. I'm so sorry. Money is not magical.
It can feel that way at times.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
It is not.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
It's really quite clear what happens to have the five
hundred dollars be there and the result that that is
in that moment, right, is that we have an invisible
world that's running the show. We have our beliefs which
we can't see. And if your beliefs yet, and then
those beliefs give you a certain thought. Right, those thoughts

(34:40):
and beliefs are invisible, but over here we have results
that's visible. We can see results. So what is the
bridge between this invisible world of belief and thoughts and
the visible world of results. There's only one thing in
between those two worlds, and that's action. Right. Action is
the bridge between the invisible to the visible. So when

(35:02):
I look at someone's bank account and I see that result,
I go, great, what's the belief that caused that result? Oh?
Because I know it's there, and you can do that
with anything in your life. Your current health is a result,
your current relationship is a result, your relationship with your
children is a result. The way that people treat you
at work is a result. Your current salary is a result.

(35:25):
What is the belief that caused that result? If you
could know that belief, that is so powerful, Because again
we've got recognition, so you can say, Okay, the belief
is it's too hard to make money. You can immediately
go into that moment and go But what if it
wasn't hard. Now you've got the opening that we were
just talking about. But it's based off of what you've

(35:45):
planted that you didn't even know you planted, And we
know what your beliefs are based on the results that
you're producing.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
So what about those of them out there who believe
I can get results, but they're not getting them because
for some reason what they believe they believe isn't really
what they believe. Right, cract, how do you a identify
that my belief system is wonky?

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Be fixing?

Speaker 4 (36:16):
Yeah, well you know the beliefs, and you know the
belief system is wonky because of the results. Yes, you
can't ever ever, I just we just went through. You
cannot disassociate a belief from a results. It's not possible. Now,
can life happen and throw stuff at us? Oh my god? Sure?
But again and again, how you respond to that is
going to be different based on your beliefs, and you're
gonna have a different result even when life is crazy.

(36:38):
So we know if the results are wonky, if they
are not what was intended, we know there's a belief
at work. There's just no way around that. You can't
you just you can't make that up. That is just
what happens. And we know that because those beliefs give
rights to actions that are causing these results. You wouldn't
be acting in this way if there wasn't a belief
driving your action. So in looking at that, if somebody

(36:59):
thinks they're they're doing that, but then their results say otherwise,
this is when I lovingly hand them a cup of
coffee and say let's talk, right, because what's happening is
there's a belief they're not they're not aware of yet
that is running the show, just like I wasn't aware
of sixteen year old old was running my life right, right,
there's something's happening, or the result would change. It's literally
that simple. Doesn't mean it's easy, but it is literally

(37:21):
that simple. And so we look at the result and say,
what what kind of a belief system would cause this result?
What would someone believe who has this result? And you
take it sort of out of the personal and you
just sort of guess. You start looking around, Well, I
think they might believe that they have to buy two
hundred dollars Jeanes to stay cool, and that's why the
two hundred dollars isn't Uh. Maybe they would believe that

(37:45):
they have to have new drapes in their living room
before the emergency fund is funded. Oh that's interesting. Okay,
maybe they'd have to they maybe they'd believe that. Maybe
they'd believe that that's more important. That's interesting. Is that true?
Is it more important? Because that's okay? But you want
to know about it if it is, And if they
do think that's more important. When they've said the emergency
fund is the most important, what is that belief? And

(38:07):
the belief might end up being I'm making this up
right now, but it might end up being the way
I look is more important than the way I feel
oh oh oh, all of a sudden, it's like, ah,
I do this a lot with women, and I joke
around about the two hundred dollars jeans, right, but it's
like the two hundred dollars jeans and they have underwear
that's held together by safety pin that method, What is

(38:30):
that message? What is going on there? What's for you
doesn't matter, but what the rest of the world.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Sees matters interesting?

Speaker 4 (38:36):
Right, and we just do that. And to do that
without judgment, to do that without flogging, to do that
without making yourself wrong is so powerful. And it's not
easy to do because somewhere along the line, we were
all taught if you just beat the hell out of
yourself verbally, then you won't be lazy. It's like, no, no,
that just makes everything worse. It's like no, no, no. You
love up on the kid who thinks it's okay to

(38:57):
have safety pins and they're underwear while everybody else thinks
they're wealthy. That's the kid you love up on, and
that's the belief. You start to say, Okay, well, if
that is the belief, what is it like to live
like that? It's hell. It's hell because every time I
open up my bank account. I feel like crab. Interesting.
But if the neighbors come over and happen to see
the new curtains, you feel good for ten seconds. Interesting?

(39:20):
What do you want to do about that? And we
do that without doudgment. We do that with so much
love and so much empathy and so much understanding because
it could be any one of us. I mean, I've
done it, you've done it, We've all done it. Like
no one's on a box here going well I do.
And if they're doing that, I'm going to want to
talk to them something he does that work? Right? Like,
we're all in this together. And you know I love

(39:40):
to tell people all the time, like, no work gets
to lift you up outside of your humanity. Right, I'm
a coach who talks about money and I'm going to
get surprise bills. Nothing is going to lift me up
out of my own humanity either. And I think when
we start to get that with each other and we
understand we're all in this the beliefs are causing my
results world, Well, how can I ask a different question?
How can I start looking at this differently? We're in
that together, and I think we're in that environment where

(40:02):
there is no judgment. It gets really almost fun to
figure these things out because you're unlocking yourself from different prisms.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
So yes to all of it. But for those of
us who are who are trying to change the way
that we do things in terms of the three D
versus the five D, that kind of thing, how do
you align abundance and these types of concepts with a

(40:33):
soul aligned purpose?

Speaker 4 (40:36):
Yeah, well, such a loaded question and so beautiful, and
thank you for asking it. But one of the things
I say often is, I don't think universe, God, highest up,
whatever your belief system is. I don't think that God
put you here with these beautiful gifts that you've been

(40:56):
given so you could give those gifts away for free
and hate your day job. I don't what this is
all a complete man made construct that we spend time
away from our families, away from the people we love,
so that we can pay bills for stuff we don't want.
I don't think that that's actually the plan. If you
actually take a moment and think about it, we're you know,

(41:17):
if you're a parent, or if you have nieces and
nephews or children that you love in your life, would
you ever say to them go be miserable, like, no,
that's that's not a thing, right, So it really is understanding.
And this well to your question is where I really
do work with women because women have been taught to
give away their gifts for free, like society depends on
that in so many ways that we don't get paid

(41:39):
for what we do. So there is a lot of
work inside of a soul led purpose, right, understanding that
that soul led purpose was given to you so you
could make a living. It's not an extra it's not
this you know, crazy thing on the side. It's why
you're here. And there's no way the universe or God
would give you that gift and not provide for you

(42:00):
to provide the gift. And what I like to say
is almost how that happens is none of our business.
I always say, I wake up every day and I
keep my agreement with the universe. Some people say their
agreement with God. And that is my ability to speak
and to go out and talk about these concepts. That's
my thing. That's what I'm here to do. So I
just keep that agreement and I keep it constantly. There
are times I don't feel like it, but I keep
that agreement. And I go up and I keep that agreement,

(42:22):
and I keep my agreement that way, and then everything
else gets handled. Do I have to have a business, Yeah?
Do I have to have offers? Sure? Do I need
to understand what I'm charging for? Oh my gosh, yes,
of course. Again this is not magical thinking. But now
that that is set up, my job is to use
my gifts every day to the best of my ability,
and to know that somebody gets sent this podcast episode,

(42:45):
for example, by a friend they haven't talked to in
five years one day that they saw in the grocery store, right, Like,
that part's none of my business. Like that part is
taken care from something much smarter than me. But if
I don't show up and keep my agreement, that part's
not possible. And so when we look at abundance, we
can all have the abundance of self to show up
and keep our agreement with the universe and anybody listening,

(43:05):
you know which one I'm talking about. It's your ability
to make people laugh, it's your ability to have empathy.
And maybe you're an incredible parent and you've always had
this thing of like, oh, I'd love to teach other
parents how to do that maybe you're great at driving
and you're like, I want to teach these kids. Nobody's teaching.
They're all taken uber how to drive. I don't know.
We all have our right that we're here to do.
And this part takes a little bit of faith. It

(43:27):
also takes action, and it takes examining your beliefs that
dictate your actions. But this idea that you would not
have been given this gift if there wasn't a way
for you to sustain your life doing it. And I
think once that truth sort of clicks, it clicks for people.
It's beautiful to watch. You watch a moment where someone goes, oh,
I get that now, and then they go out and
they do their thing. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
So what if you don't know what your gift is?

Speaker 2 (43:52):
You know, you get so caught up in life and
work and whatever, and no you're just yeah, I got
nothing special?

Speaker 5 (43:59):
Right?

Speaker 4 (44:00):
No? I mean, my my favorite question to ask there
is what a people come to you for? Like, if
I were to ask you right now, you know, what
do people ask you to do? Or what would what
are your friends come to you for? Most people have
an answer or an inkling. And if somebody is thinking no,
that doesn't really happen. You know, one of my first
clients when I first started my business, I love to
share her story. Her name is Tasha Blasi and she

(44:23):
now helps people with IVF. She has one hundred percent
success rate in getting people pregnant and wow, isn't that gorgeous. Yeah.
She came to me. She was a senior executive at
a country music station and she's like, get me out
of this job or I'm going to stick a pork
in my eye. I was like, okay, great, what are
we doing? And she said I want to organize wealthy
women's closets and I was like, really, really do you?
So that's those are the conversations you want to have

(44:45):
all day And she was like, oh god no. I
was like, yeah, it's not so funny. When we start
with the money, we're like all backwards. I was like,
I don't. I don't think that's what you're here to do,
but you know, if it is, we'll figure it out.
And I said what do people come to you for?
And she said, oh, my gosh, my IVF journey And
I was like what IVF?

Speaker 3 (45:02):
I didn't know.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
I was like, what IVF journey? And what had happened
is it took her two rounds to have her oldest
and then eight rounds to have her second, And so
she had this unique, beautiful experience of primary infertility and
then secondary infertility. And I was like, talk to me
about this and the guilt she felt for like still
going on. She already had a kid and like all
the things that she went through. And then she's like, oh, yeah,

(45:25):
and I was a biology teacher. I was like what
She's like, Yeah, I totally forgot I was a biology teacher.
I'm like, oh my god, you got to be kidding me.
And she's gorgeous and she's funny, and I was like, yeah,
we're putting this together. And what people would call her
for was how to not make the shots hurt? And
how can I get through, you know, the day of
implantation until the day I take my pregnancy test. How

(45:47):
can I get through that without being stressed out and
freaked out? And so she started teaching that. They're now
like over three hundred and fifty babies in the world
now because she taught people how to do that. That's
her thing. That's what she started to do. Right, It's like,
I don't know what your thing is. But if I
can ask you that question and you start getting into
what actually like rolls your socks up and down, it's like,
wait a second, and it could be something very different.

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I didn't know she knew about IVF.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Well, and the thing, you know, I think the question
from Karen coming from Karen is is a really good
one because a lot of people don't They don't know
how to ask that question and be able to answer it.
Like I could answer it for Karen immediately, but she's
still trying to figure out what her calling is. But
you just went in on a website to ask people

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how much would people pay for something like this?

Speaker 3 (46:35):
Oh no, that's not calling.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
That's professionally, but you're amazing at it, and people come
to you all the time about it.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
No, not really.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Well, she made she made the cake for our daughter
for a daughter's birthday, and it was unbelievable. It was gorgeous,
and she couldn't easily make tons of money doing this
kind of thing. But anyway, whereas for me, people come
to me because they like to drink with me that
tech stuff. Well, yes, anyway, So you're one of those

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people that I could just sit and listen to.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
Literally really asked the questions, listen for.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
Days, for days, and so unfortunately we are running out
of time, very rattly, but I've got Usually we like
to ask people some curveball questions just to kind of
throw things in different directions and hoping that you are
open to something like that.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
I love that. Let's go okay, all right?

Speaker 1 (47:34):
Uh, if you could send one push notification to every
phone on the planet, just one sentence, what would it say.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
Oh, that's an easy one, just one mmm.

Speaker 4 (47:59):
Probably something along the lines of you really are already
ready and yes they will.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
Pay you for it.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
I need to figure out what I'm ready for and
I'm paying for it.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
The second question, what is the sassiest, most loving piece
of advice you wish you could whisper into the ear
of every.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
Person on earth?

Speaker 3 (48:21):
Kind of got same lines.

Speaker 4 (48:26):
The sassiest go kick some assets. I think that's what
I would say, Like, stop it, you can make as
much as you want, get out of here.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Go.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
It's funny because in the same video that we talked
about earlier, you mentioned about how how many millions of
people there are in the United States and you think
you need them all to do run your business, but
you really only need like five or we know, you know,
five thousand of them whatever, So there are plenty of
people for your business.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
It's not like you know.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
So okay, last one really quickly. If money was a
character in a movie, who would it be and what
would their dramatic monologue sound like?

Speaker 4 (49:07):
Oh my god, this is so interesting. You said that
because I actually just did an exercise in the Abundant's
Academy where I said, I want you to picture money
and who it is as a character. So I totally
have the answer for isn't that wild? I've the universe
does stuff alignment? Yes? Wow? So did you ever see
Big Hero six?

Speaker 1 (49:24):
Yes? Love that movie.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
There's a big white, fluffy dude right who holds you
and hug that's my money. Money would be as the
big and he hugs you. Yes, thank you, and there's
money flying all around. When I saw this, and the
monologue is see I was always here. Oh that's it. God.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Wow, I swear you are one of my favorite guests
of all the time. This is amazing, Sarah. I know
you do a lot of things on your website. You
give a lot of things away for free for folks
that want to go and visit your site, but then
you also help a lot of people, So tell us
about what you do, why should someone go to your
site and what is it so we can put it

(50:03):
in our show notes for it, buddy.

Speaker 4 (50:04):
Yeah, yeah, So it's just my name Sarah with an ah,
Sarah Walton like the Family on TV Sarah Walton dot com.
I think one of my favorite things on the website
is the Freedom Calculator, which you mentioned well, and this
is just it's just a pdf you can download. It's
got a lot of marketing advice on it, but the
most important piece is at the very beginning is your
own calculator for you to understand how much money you
would need to make in order to feel free. And

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the reason I give that away is I want people
to know their number based on their lifestyle so they
can start going towards it. Remember we set awareness is
so much so you can find out your specific number
and start moving towards it. And I love that. But
then you can also find my podcast, the Game on
Girlfriend podcast and my YouTube channel there as well.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
Right, And one of the greatest things about the Freedom
Calculators if you go and you ask for it, you
will get that video that was talking about, So it'll
be a win win all the way around.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
Sarah.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
Yeah, amazing, absolutely amazing having you on the show. I
feel like this may not be the last time we talk,
but I'm just putting out it right and I.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
Feel like I got a lot of work to do.

Speaker 4 (51:03):
Yeah, we'll make anything. It's all good, sister. I got
your back.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
I got you all right, Sarah. Thank you so much
for coming on the show. It's been an absolute pleasure.
We look forward to sticking around, sticking and being in
touch again soon.

Speaker 4 (51:17):
Thank you so much. You guys can joy.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Yeah, we're going to stick something. Thank you for being
on the show. Look forward to keeping in touch with
you in the future.

Speaker 5 (51:26):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
Thanks so much you guys. This has been a joy.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Okay, Well that does it for this episode of the
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