When Doctors Can’t Help: How to Heal with Intuition Instead

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Karen, Yes, question for you.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
I have an answer for you.

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Are you sure?

Speaker 3 (00:05):
No?

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Okay, Well let's see what do a licensed therapist, a
psychic medium, and an abstract painter.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Having common Are they walking into a bar?

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Well, you know what after meeting her? Maybe so, but
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Okay, a psychic medium, an abstract painter, and a licensed
therapist licensed therapist, I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Well, it was a trick question because actually they are
all Katie Beacher and this is the person that's actually
this woman creates soul level medical readings without ever seeing you.
Just your name, your age, that's it. And you know what,
she gives you a four page physical, emotional, and spiritual
health report plus a symbiotic watercolor portrait of your soul.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Wow, I know right, that's so cool.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Now she's been featured in Goop, in Push, and even
on Coast to Coast AM with George Norri. But today
she is joining us, so she's made the big time. Finally,
if you ever wondered what your symptoms might be trying
to tell you, or how to heal from the inside out,
you're gonna want to stick around for this one because Katie,
she's not just an intuitive. She is verified. Let's go.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
My name is Will, and unlike Boulder and Scully, want
to believe. So we've embarked in a journey of discovery.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and
metaphysical world.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even
joined a coven.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Of witches and wait, you joined a coven yep.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
All on the interest of finding something, anything, that will
prove that there's something beyond this physical.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Three dimensional world we all live in.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
This is the Skeptic Metaphysicians.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Hey there, I'm Will, and we are welcoming you back
to another power packed episode of the Skeptic Metaposians. Today's
guest is someone who bridges the gap between science and
spirit in a truly extraordinary way.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
See.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Katie Beecher is a licensed professional counselor and an internationally
recognized medical and emotional intuitive with over thirty five years
of experience. She's been featured on Goop, on Push, On,
Miranda Kerr's Cora Organics, Coast to Coast AM, and more
than two hundred other media outlets.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
See.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Her unique method involves creating a detailed four page intuitive
report and a symbolic soul painting. Before she even meets
her clients. All she uses is her name and age.
She's also the author of the best selling book Heal
from Within, an Intuitive Guide to Wellness, which empowers people
to connect to their bodies, uncover root causes of illness,

(02:43):
and tap into their own intuitive healing power. Now having
personally healed from bulimia, depression, lime disease, and mold toxicity,
Katie brings not only professional wisdom, but lived experience to
everything she does. Please welcome the one, the only Katie
Beecher the show. Katie, Welcome to No How you doing today.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
I'm great, Thank you so much. You guys are awesome.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
I'm glad you think we're awesome. Some people say, oh,
these guys are crazy.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
But we've got our snows.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
So far, so good. Karen, all right, Katie, I'm excited
to talk to you. In our research, we found that
you do things a little differently. We've talked to people
who do soul paintings before, we've talked to medical intuitives before.
I don't know that we ever talked to someone that
does them both at the same time. So this is exciting.
So first, the soul paintings do they act as a

(03:35):
tool to help you to diagnose what might be going
on with someone.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
So they do. The way that I use them is
I do the report first, and it's very detailed and
all this stuff that you said, and then I create
the painting afterwards, and it both verifies the information in
my report and gives me different kinds of information about
the person. And delivering something symbolically to someone is a

(04:05):
little bit softer, if you will. So if you're reading
a report and you see the words, you know, sexual
abuse or a very serious diagnosis. To be clear, I
cannot legally or ethically diagnose, I really want to be.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Clear about that.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
But I do identify symptoms and I do make suggestions
for what things might be, and then I help connect
people with practitioners I trust for formal diagnoses and things.
So that's really important to me that people know that.
But the soul painting, for example, I might be directed
by my guides to put a lot of red in

(04:45):
certain areas, maybe around the second chakra, which is the
hip area of reproductive organs, things like that, and so
if I pick up abuse in that area and I
put red there. Then people usually know what that means,
and it might be a miscarriage, it might be you know,

(05:05):
endometriosis or hysterectomy or something like that. But people usually
just intuitively are like, oh, I know what that is.
So it's a gentler way of beginning a difficult conversation.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Or it could be just a bump on the table
as you're on your way to the danging room.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
No, no, no, So does each color mean something or
do you just kind of put things together and then
read the whole feeling behind it.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yeah, My guys start by giving me a color, and
then I usually start at the top of the image
of a person. So the image can be of a figure.
Sometimes it's an insect, sometimes an animal, so they really
it could be a plant, but it's all symbolizing the person.
And my guys have you start with a color and

(05:53):
then I just kind of go down. Whatever they tell
me to put gets put there, and the colors matter
and it's an individual interpretation for each person. But also
things like you know, the placement of the arms. So
let's say your arms are totally out like this, it
could be that you're welcoming new information. It could mean

(06:14):
that you're vulnerable. Let's say your arms are in front
of your heart and you could be protecting yourself. Call
it different colors in the legs, for example, legs represent
moving forward in life. So let's say there's some agenta
there and magentas about being your true, authentic self. So
they're being told that the way to move forward is

(06:36):
just by being yourself, you know. So it's it's really individualized.
It's really fun. Even though the paintings literally look like
a five year old did them, so, you know, but
and being a fine artist, I was sort of like,
what are these things for me? Yet there really is
you know, I don't know how people would receive them,

(06:58):
and they really love them and they like to ount
and frame them, and.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
It's fun the abstract, but you can actually make out
someone's body because you can write as helps what the
color is.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yes, you can definitely make out a figure or let's
say it's a plant, or it could be a combination
of a plant and a figure, or some kind of
insect like a butterfly or something like that.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
So you.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
As abstract e ish as they definitely are, you can
definitely make up you know, pedals of a flower or
leaves or legs and arms and things like that.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Okay, right, so then I think you got you might
be seeing that if you're watching these on video, you
might be seeing some examples of these paintings on the video.
If you don't, just go to a blog and you'll
see those paintings in there as well that we're putting
in there.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Now, have you had the opportunity to do or maybe
you have or not, I don't know, like an after picture,
so you diagnose some and then they kind of work
on the issues and then paint their soul again.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yes, I do have a lot of repeat clients, and
it's super fun to look at, you know, what comes
up in the report again or what their paintings look
like again, and to see the growth. And people are
always kind of surprised at, you know, because we don't
always realize that we're growing or changing or healing because

(08:27):
we're in it. So to be able to see it
in the report and especially in the paintings, it's really
really fun.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Right well, so the obviously the people once they come
to you is because they feel they have something going
on as or you just do it generally and people
then find that there's something they need to look at
after they see the painting.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
My clients are pretty varied. Most of them, I have
to say, have symptoms that they either know what the
causes and they're not healing and they want help with them,
or they don't know what the root causes it all,
and they've been to eight trillion practitioners and you know,
keep hearing it's in your head, or they get a
misdiagnosis or something like that.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
So okay.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
But I also have people who just want to know
more about healing relationships or setting boundaries or healing trauma,
or career help or you know whatever. And the nice
thing about the readings is that we cover everything and
anything in that that one hour.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
That's a great point, right because the very first thought
is you're talking about health, right, You're talking about you.
But then you started the conversation with you know, potential
sexual abuse for example, which is not health thing. It's
more of a thing.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Right, Yeah, gues it.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
May it may represent it may end up being in
that sense, but but it goes way deeper than just
a physical ailment. But this you can you can help
people not just with health, but you do it with
like you said, career, you can do it with relationships.
You could do it with you know, finding that pot
of goal at the end of the rainbow or all
that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Right, Yeah, And it's really important to know that if
you look at root, physical, emotional, and spiritual are all
really important to consider. And my guides don't see time
in a linear fashion. So I will get stuff from
someone's childhood or from ten years ago or in the future,

(10:17):
or I'll get information from people that they care about
or maybe they're loved ones in spirit, you know. So
it's it's kind of I have to discern what's now
and what's in the past. And the information in the
past or for someone else usually comes through as just
a little bit fainter. So if I see a picture,

(10:37):
let's say, it's just a little fainter, or hear a
fainter word in my head or something like that. So
I just put it out there and then we talk
about it during the reading.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Gotcha now, you said also in the future, how how
does that work? Like, how do you get that information in?
How can you use that to help someone?

Speaker 3 (10:57):
So a lot of people say, you know, am I
going to get better what can I do to help
myself things like that, And so I don't give people
timelines because it's not fair and there's so many variables,
you know. But I do get feelings about, yes, this
person is going to get better and that their relationship

(11:18):
is going tokeed, or maybe I hear that they're better
off out of the relationship and it's not going to
work out. Or I get hints about how to help
them with their business, you know, now and in the future,
or their goals or dreams or something like that. So
it's because we all have trouble living in the present
for a lot of reasons. You know, we're in the

(11:40):
past or in the future, and that's okay. So to
be able to help people with all of it is
really important.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Oh yeah, all right, we're burying the lead, right, bulimia,
lime disease, toxicity, mold toxicity. You healed yourself from all
that stuff. So the first thing that comes of mine
is how how how did you do that?

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Well, I can't take one hundred percent of the credit
because I really had help. I'll start with the believe
mea part. When I was in high school, I had
I was in bad shape, really bad shape, throwing up
three times a day, and suicidal depression, and I was
ready to just be like, I can't live this way anymore.
It's not okay. And my family was really toxic, and

(12:24):
so some people have heard this story before, and it's
in my book. But I came home one day from
school and called our pediatrician. I hadn't told anybody about
what I was going through, and my parents were not
very helpful. So I called and said, you know, I'm
making myself get sick and I need help. And it
was nineteen eighty three, so the doctor was kind of like, oh,

(12:47):
it's okay, it'll be you know, you'll be fine, and
I'm like, no, dude, I really won't be fine. This
is this is not okay. And he recommended a Youngian psychologist.
You guys may have done young and stuff before, and
for me, that was the perfect match because she taught
me how to connect to my intuition. I already knew
that I had these weird abilities and I had no

(13:09):
one to talk to about them, so I could say
to her, I'm talking to dead people, or you know,
I'm getting these feelings or whatever, and she just totally
encouraged it.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
All.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
So she helped me how to help me learn how
to connect to my authentic self and set boundaries and
not care so much about what people thought and all
of those things. And with her help and a ton
of work on my end, you know, I started right.
I was ready though, you know, And I like to

(13:41):
tell people that was one of the most important things
that ever happened to me. And I'm so grateful for
it because we need pain to change.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Such a great point, right. We talk all the time
about how growth happens at the edge of our comfort zones,
but sometimes we have to go really far or comfort
of oones to really get the benefits of need to
get And at the end of the day, people say,
you don't really need to get there, you can you
just listen to the universe saying hey, I need to
do this first, instead of waiting for the moment that
you've gotten into big trouble with believe me, maybe you

(14:15):
know that's.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Well, I think that's that must have been your guides
and your intuition, because what teenager calls the pediatrician on
their own right, you know, So that's really fantastic that
you'd listened and took that step.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
It was divine intervention. It really was, because I didn't
know really why or what was happening. And I think
the fact that I had gotten into a college that
was not near my parents was probably motivational to help
me want to live.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, I don't have mom and dad to rely on anymore.
I'm on my own. I gotta get this team care of.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
I was on my own anyway, I couldn't rely on
them anyways. So yeah, it was like, Okay, I have
a motivation now and hope and you know, things like
that controlling.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
You in ways you didn't want to control.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
Oh, exactly, that's a thick guy not thinking of the
right way. So at least perfect sense.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Yeah, it's okay, you know. And then for the lime
and mold and all those other things, it was a physical,
emotional and spiritual journey for sure. I fortunately had an
amazing naturopath that I worked with who I lived in Connecticut.
You know, I'd had limes since I was a kid
and didn't know it, so and the traditional doctors were

(15:27):
no help. No one ever brought up all the symptoms
of a lime disease that I had, and I had
again the sense to find a naturopath at seventeen, and
you know, worked with these people. It wasn't chill. I
was like forty five un till I got to diagnose
with Lime. But it was through working with her and
then doing a lot of spiritual work, talking in my symptoms,

(15:49):
asking the lime like, Okay, I'm going to treat you
as my friend, why are you here? What do you
have to tell me? And kind of to your point
before what I like to tell people is the trick
is listening to your symptoms and intuition early before they
need to almost kill you out to be like, oh, okay.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Let's talk about your book for a second, because it
kind of goes hand in hand with what you just said.
Your book, Heal from Within, you talk about symptoms as
messages from the body, right and you spirit and you
say that there's a way to get messages from your
body that will allow you to understand that there are

(16:36):
some underlying challenges you have to work on. How does
that work?

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Yeah? One hundred percent. And when I was going through
therapy and my recovery journey when I was sixteen, my
guides told me to write the book. They told me
to pass on what I learned to teach people how
to connect to theirselves and their intuition and all the things.
So it took me, you know, several decades to actually
write it, but that's okay, you.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Got it out. I got a lot more than most
people do, so congratulations.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Right.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
And it was the Lime disease when I talked to
Lime and said, why are you here? What do you want?

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Like?

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Why are you scaring me? And it's like, oh, it's
time to write your proposal? So there you go. So
there is a great example of a symptom and a
diagnosis that I listened to and talk to instead of fearing,
and I you know, had that dialogue with it. I
talk about how to do the dialogues and all that
kind of stuff in the book, but it was you know,

(17:31):
what do you want me to do? Why are you
in my life right now? And why is this so unpleasant?
Because I was afraid of writing the proposal. I'm not
a I am an author, but I'm not really a writer,
you know. Thank God for edging. So you know, it
was scary. And these symptoms come about to make you change.
So work with people all the time who come to

(17:53):
me for a physical issue. And my guides in the
report reveal that, oh, there've been a really dysfunctional relationship
that they've been trying to get out of forever. Or
you're letting people walk all over you, or you're doing
too much for others and you need to set boundaries,
or any other you know, you need to change how
you eat, or guess what it's time to stop smoking,

(18:13):
or any you know, any of the things above. So again,
it's that discomfort that forces us to look at our
lives and ourselves and make changes. And it can be
the littlest symptom. So you get a little headache, right,
and you have to figure out we're all medical intuitives, really,
So you have a symptom and you start asking yourself,

(18:37):
what is this about? What caused it? What do I
need to do? So get a headache or a stomach ache?
Something I ate? Is it an allergy in? Do I
need to lay down? Do I need to take something?
You know? Can I go to this event that I'm
supposed to go to? Is there a deeper cause? Is this,
you know, a repetitive event? Things like that. So and

(19:00):
with our kids too, our kids get sick and we
have to sort of be medical detectives. So what I
do is kind of that on steroids, But it doesn't
mean that we all don't you do it to a
certain degree.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
So it's really listening to your intuition and your body, right, right.
But once you feel in your body, then you have
to ask your body what's going on, and then your
intuition is what kind of clears the path were understanding? Right? Okay,
So here's where I run into a problem. Every time
that I feel something's going on, my intuition says I
need more alcohol. So for those people, for those people

(19:40):
who maybe don't trust your intuition all that much, what
kind of tips can you give.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Us to let me first add a disclaimer the way
you said that it doesn't drink every day, not even
every week, but when you're stressed out, he'll have a
couple of drinks. It's not like amore, Wow, I mean
that I know of I'm gonna have to start looking
in to stand.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Just don't look at my closet.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
No.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
But but for those a lot of people who are
listening to the show, and perhaps some of the hosts
of this show, I have some challenges with trusting their intuition.
So how can you feel confident that what you're hearing
in your intuition is actually what you need to do.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
That is such a great question, and it comes up
during You're very welcome during every session. I do it myself,
you know, okay, because we're so emotionally involved with ourselves,
and expectations come in there and self doubt and the
times when oh I thought I trusted my intuition then
and didn't work out so well. Right, So I have
a written technique in my book that literally saved my life.

(20:45):
It's based on youngin psychology with my own spin and
doing having a conversation with your intuition and writing. First
of all, you have to stop what you're doing to
write right, so you are more in the moment. It's
like mindfulness meditation. You're more focused and so you're less
distracted by what am I having for dinner or you know,

(21:07):
any other thing that's going on. So that helps with
the focus. And what I advise people is don't overthink
the information. Even if you're just listening in your head.
You don't have to figure out whether it's your intuition
or just a voice in your head or just your feelings.
Listen to what you hear and then start discerning. So

(21:32):
is this actually fear? Am I projecting my fears onto
this information I'm receiving?

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Right?

Speaker 3 (21:39):
And if that's the case, then ask yourself what am
I afraid of? You know, what is this anxiety about?
Am I afraid that if I listen to the really
difficult information I'm hearing, such as I need to get
out of this relationship with someone, or I need to

(22:00):
I'm feeling the need to drink more? Right, what does
that mean? Do I need to go do some relaxation?
Do I need to do a movement? Is this a
call to action in terms of do I have an addiction?
Do I have a problem? So really go deep into
the information rather than just going on a service level.

(22:24):
And even if you listen and you make a mistake,
you've still learned something by that experience. But the number
one thing I think is people here scary stuff and
about change, and change is scary, and they don't want
to do it, and they're afraid and it feels overwhelming
because it doesn't happen overnight, So everything gets pushed down

(22:47):
and then you're totally cut off from any intuition. So
don't overthink it. But don't be afraid to go deeper and.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Write it down. Right, that's the number one thing you get.
You just just get pin the paper and write it down.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
I don't forget, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
And it's an actual dialogue connects you, right, it connects
you more like kneel down a wash. Yeah, conversations with
God exactly. The problem with that is that I got
to put my drink down to right.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Oh well, I'm going to change the subject very slightly here.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
But you actually don't because you could have the drink
in one hand and your pen and the other.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
I can't a drinker. So in every we have these
conversations and we learned these things. And there's something that
you said a while ago that just like struck me
in my So I'm listening but also kind of going
down this other like mental rabbit hole. And so you
talked about being friends with blind disease. You made it
your friend, and you had this dialogue, and I'm just
I just started thinking about, you know, the things that
that I have certain issues with, and this stuff just

(23:45):
started kind of coming in and popping into my head.
And you know, I'm looking at this there's this one
issue that's kind of plagued me for years and years,
and I'm like, okay, so if I look at that
as my friend and instead of thinking, oh I have
to get rid of this, I have to let it go.
That's not right, that's not true, and think, Wow, this
situation has this way that I am has helped protect
me and keep me safe for all of these years,

(24:07):
and I need to be grateful for that and think
it and then let it go.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Right because it's no longer serving you as much.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah, it's done its work and it's been part of
who I am, and I can let it go and
look at it as a friend instead of like, oh God,
I've got to get over this. It's just that one
little thing.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
I'm like, yeah, so there's a common denominator and all
this that we're talking about, right it's a changing perspective
right right now. And we've talked about a lot on
the show before. Your perspective really dictates how you react
to or any particular given thing. So that's a really
good first step.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
It does. And also, the traditional medical model is fight,
take drugs, mask, you know, be a warrior. And I
get all that, but what if we stopped fighting and
what if we listened? And fighting creates so much health anxiety,
and then people that are afraid to like go get
blood tests or open their results, or get an ultrasound

(25:03):
or because they're so afraid that things are going to
be so bad instead of just gee, I want to
know the answers because then I could do something about that.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
That's so true. Whenever I get my test results back
from my doctor, my heart is pounding to me.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
So yeah, well I have history with that. That might
be why. But so you I mentioned in the teaser,
I tossed it in and people might have called it,
might not have called it. I mentioned that you are verified,
you have been verified by medical professionals. Tell us about that.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
So yeah, I at the very about the beginning. But
about twelve years ago, maybe I don't know what date
it is today, but about twelve years ago I contacted
age a journal. It's a peer review journal, and it
was an MD who had this journal, and I wanted
to do a little study verifying my abilities and my accuracy,

(25:59):
and I wanted to get some of the doctors from
my clients involved. And they gave me permission, of course,
and did a informal survey of about eighty of my
clients and just did like a questionnaire about what was accurate,
what wasn't things like that, and then also contacted these
doctors and had them give or the clients gave permission

(26:23):
for their medical files. And it showed that before I
did the reading with them, they had these diagnoses that
I and symptoms that I correctly identified. So it was
important to me to get that kind of empirical data
and my you know, accuracies like something in the ninety
seven percentile or something that with that.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Yeah, it was pretty cool, I'd say, yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Right, And also just a lot of like when I
do readings for doctors, or when I did the reading
for a group, or a lot of the big media stuff.
You know, they don't put your information up there unless
you're actually good at what you do. So I had
to do readings for them and have them, you know,
verify that information.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
How can How did I not think about that? Katie,
you want to come on the show, You've got to
do a reading right.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Next time?

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Missed opportunity time? Well that's cool. So you did it
for the media like you did it for Jordan Nour
and all those kinds of people.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and like the Goop had a group
not not going but the person below her and so.
But that's really important to me because I cannot b
s the readings and the reports they get them before
I talk to them. So again that's it's important to
me to have credibility, you know, that people can trust me.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, super important. Of course. Now you we've
talked about the fact that this you intuit things in
all kinds of spectrums, right, the health and spirituality and
all that kind of stuff. If cinsitioals really focus on
spiritual weakenings and that kind of stuff, if someone is

(28:05):
wanting to further their spiritual growth, is this something that
you can identify and help with as well?

Speaker 3 (28:12):
Oh yes, every session, during every single session, every session,
I teach people how to connect to their intuition, how
to develop whatever gifts they have, how to trust their
intuition because I don't want anyone substituting their intuition for mine.
You know, I will be honest with what my guides
get and everything, but it's always how does this feel
to you? Is this resonating with you? You know? Just don't

(28:34):
just listen to me and nod your head. I don't
want that, And I want to know is there something
in the port that didn't resonate, because maybe it was
for somebody else I was reading at the time, or
you know, I loved one of theirs. So we talk
a lot about how people can listen to their bodies
and their intuition and develop whatever gifts they already have.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
All right, well cool, I think I need the book
a session. Okay, so let's come back to your soul pinions.
I'm really curious about that. Have you ever painted something
that really, like, just shocked you? So can you tell
us a little bit about that.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
Yes, I actually had the idea that you were going
to ask me about this, So this is super cool.
I was doing a reading on a five year old
boy and all I knew was that he was five,
and I did a very different type of soul painting.
And it was a fire truck that had a very
long ladder and behind it was a tall sort of
apartment type building and there was a fireman with a hose,

(29:30):
so you know clear what it was. And then I
was trying consciously, I was trying to make the hose
on the side of the truck you know, it's kind
of coiled up, and I just my brain in my
hand weren't connecting, and all I could make was this
s shape. And I literally said to myself, is this
Superman's firetruck right saw? I'm like, okay, I'm just gonna

(29:53):
go with it. When I talked to the mom, she
said her son was autistic, non verbal, and right before
she got found out she was pregnant with him, they
lost all of their belongings in an apartment fire. The
whole like place burned down and she lost everything, and

(30:14):
she said she was completely devastated, had no hope, and
then found out she was pregnant.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
And she said this, this her little boy literally saved
her and has such impact on all the people he meet.
He's this very, you know, charismatic individual who's not even verbal.
And she said that she was so moved that she
calls him her Superman. It gets better, it gets better,

(30:44):
and she I don't remember what Superman's middle name is,
but that is the middle name of her her son.
I don't I honestly don't remember. I don't know my mind.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
I don't have me big big Superman.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
Fr It's nice Okay, so whatever it is, that's the
middle name she gave her son. So I remember just
she was in tears, you know when when she saw
the painting. I was getting chills. She was getting chills.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
That's amazing.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
Yeah, it's one I will never forget for sure.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Okay, I don't want I'm taking all the questions.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Well, so how did you first start doing this soul painting?
Like what what led you to that?

Speaker 3 (31:28):
I've always been an artist, and I think it was
kind of the young my Youngian psychology background too. He
uses a lot of symbolism and art therapy, and art
therapy has always been a really important healing tool for
me and I have training in it too, And I
wanted to incorporate something symbolic with the written words of

(31:49):
the report because the it just feels impersonal sometimes even
though it's deeply personal. But it just sort of came
to me. I think I was looking at the Red Book, actually,
Carl Jung's Red Book, which is pretty intense depiction of
his spiritual journey, and it just came again, you know,

(32:10):
spiritual intervention of what if you could make a symbolic
representation of these people's lives and their bodies and energy
and what would it look like. So I kind of
fooled around with it, and I, you know, used a
lot of people as guinea pigs. And that's how can do.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Every once in a while when we have a guest
that we really love on the show, we asked and
we asked permission to ask some curveball questions that might
be a little bit out of the norm. You cool
with doing? Okay, all right, here's the first curveball question
I'm going through you. Right, if someone asked you to
create a medical intuitive reading for planet Earth, what do

(32:48):
you think you'd find?

Speaker 3 (32:50):
Oh? Okay, that's depressing. A lot of hurt, abuse is
coming to mind, neglect, kind of taking being taken for granted,
needing to set boundaries, a lot of symptoms that people
aren't aren't looking at, you know, enough and aren't responding
to enough, and the fact that we need the planet

(33:13):
to be as healthy as possible, not just for now,
but for our futures, and that we need to really
listen more and take better care of it.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Right, that's how it sounds like.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
That reminds me of something I just heard yesterday on
NPR talking about taking care of the earth. Apparently in
Paris they have disallowed cars. What people can't drive cars anymore.
Then they can take public transportation and they can walk,
and they're planning a little mini urban forests. I had
just heard about this, and at first I guess the

(33:44):
mayor so that the Parisians are very you know, upset
about this. Now they're like this is they're actually getting
out and enjoying Paris again. People are outside, they're walking,
their biking more.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Was this a credible source that NPR PR no cure.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
I think it was. I was, yeah, whatever, the you know,
I listened.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
To like, wow, that's incredible.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yeah, it was very very cool.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Well, remember remember back during the COVID when everything was
closing down, the dolphins will come back to venness and
all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
So there's hope there is.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
So it seems like like Paris and New York places
that have mass transportation. I can totally see that, But
can you imagine that here you don't have a car,
here you're sunk.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Maybe they just incorporate, you know, they take out the
cars and they put a bus so people take you know,
the buses.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Or bikes like Denmark. Okay, cool. Well here's another, another
curveball question. If your intuition had a voice, how would
you describe the personality? Is it gentle, sassy, wise, parental, wise,
ass will.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Well.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
I'm also imagining how my husband would describe that. The
first thing that comes to mind is very honest and
loving and empathic and putting myself in the place of
others who've been through difficult things.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Okay, so the voice would be like Karen.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Wait, not like a Karen. No, right, just differentiate.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Right, right. So I remember the question I had if
it came to me the report that you give to people,
Does that mean that you're constantly like writing four pagsays
for people or do you have like a machine that
spits it out?

Speaker 3 (35:28):
I wish I had a machine. No, my guys are
kind of like a machine. Right. I purposely see maybe
six to nine people a week at the most, and
some of those are regular counseling clients, intuitive counseling clients
that I see on a regular basis. So I usually
do anywhere from four to six actual reports per week,

(35:50):
and I do like those on Sundays and Mondays to
prepare for the week. So so no, I am not
constantly writing and I have a template that I start
with that is divided into all the chakras, and it
gives this the physical and emotional characteristics of each chakra,
so you don't have to know anything about chakras to
understand the report. And then I the third column is

(36:13):
kind of what I fill in for what I get
for the person that I'm doing the reading for.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Gotcha, So it's more fill in the blank and not
like long form survey.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Yes, yes, correct, I know, yeah, yeah, terrifying.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Okay, So for anyone that's listening who right now, who's
struggling with something that they can't explain, whether it's chronic pain,
or emotional overwhelm or just feeling stuck, what's the very
first step you recommend that they take?

Speaker 3 (36:45):
What I where I start in my readings is kind
of doing an overview of what is the most pressing thing,
you know, what's the thing that is impacting your life
the most, are bothering you the most? And even in
my book, I take people through a pretty extensive quiz
of what's going on in your life and and what

(37:06):
are the things that are most important to you? Were
to start, you know, sometimes people don't even know what's
bothering them because it's just been there forever and they
don't even know how to put it into words. So
sort of an identification of one thing that you want
to start working on because everything feels overwhelming, especially if
you try to do it all at once. And then

(37:29):
in the book and in my readings too, I start
with helping people connect to their intuition and their authentic
self and start by just trying to be calmer, be
more present and giving yourself a break, you know, not
being so hard on yourself, and that kind of you know,

(37:50):
starts the ball rolling.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Gotcha? Okay, a lot of people are talking about intuition,
of medicine, that kind of stuff right in this space, metaphysics, spirituality.
There's a lot of it's although it's not new or young,
it's there's a lot of new people coming to it.

(38:14):
So there's a lot of misconceptions that come along with
all this kinds of stuff. Are there any misconceptions you
feel are really important to dispel right now?

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (38:24):
I'm really glad you brought that up, because I have
been called a witch, I have been called satan, I
have been told that some of them by my own family,
right actually, yeah, I don't have anything to do with
them anymore. So there's a reason. But you know that
I'm anti Christian, that what I that listening to intuition

(38:46):
is going against the Bible, you know, it's being evil interesting,
And that is so incredibly sad to me because my
first connection to intuition was with God and it still
is and God is love, you know, I help people
heal and love themselves more.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
And by.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
Just having this assumption that you know nothing about that
it's somehow negative or evil or against God is just
it couldn't be further from the truth. So that's that's
a big one.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Yeah, Yeah, that is very sad. There's a lot of
folks who are Christian who aren't in that thought process, right,
they don't fit into that thought process. Unfortunately, there are
a lot of them that are. And I can't help
but think that's based in fear, uoted in programming, and
fear that they've been brought up. And so it's as
much as I hate that they would feel that way,

(39:42):
I do understand why. Unfortunately, you have to give them empathy. However,
when you think about if you are even interested in
the space remotely, you probably have heard of Edgar Casey,
and Casey, who's the father of metaphysics, was a Christian
first and foremost, and he came up with all these
holistic remedies and he's a like he was like the
first medical intuitive, right. He would he would dream the recipes,

(40:06):
do these to these concoctions that he put together for people.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
So yeah, it's true. And even Carl Jung who really
started all of the symbolism and the Louise Hay stuff
and everything people are doing now, it's really all based
on YOUNGI and stuff and young theories, you know. And
he was a Christian too, so.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Yeah, yeah, and you and when you get into the
conversation of science, like if right, quantum physics now has
allowed us to connect the dots and a lot of
these things. So it's no longer a mystical Oh it's
from God or it's from Satan. This is just the
way nature works. This is how the world is.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
So I try to make what I do as non
woo woo as possible.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Yeah, although there is pretty oh yeah, something we said
about the woo that's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Yeah, it makes it more fun, it.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Doesn't make fun right, all right, Well, it's been it's
been wonderful speaking with Is there anything that you want
to make sure that you get to our across to
our audience before we say goodbye.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
My my website will be on your your notes. It's
Katiebeacher dot com on you know, Instagram and Facebook and
all the places. And I love hearing from people. I
offer a lot of different types of services and so
much can be accomplished in just one reading. So I
don't want people to feel like it's you know, a

(41:26):
link in to like you know, tan appointments. We start
with one, and it's.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Not like psychology wh where you you know, you're there
for a couple of years or whatever. And by the way,
I didn't want to shout out that I'm glad that
you connected yourself with Youngian psychology because Oldian psychology is
not very good.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
I really like you guys. It would actually be quite
fun to go have a drink with.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Definitely.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Apparently you just have to look at the night standing.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
All right, So so that I don't butcher it, Can
you tell us again in the name of your book?

Speaker 3 (41:59):
Yes, Heal from Within a guidebook to Intuitive wellness and
available everywhere whatever you on Amazon and all the places
so internationally.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Oh nice, Well, congratulations.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Then we are going to add a direct link to
the book and to your website and socials in our
show notes. So if you are interested in connecting with Katie,
and I recommend that you do because I'm really I'm
gonna because I'm really curious about your readings, all you
need to do is go to skeptic a position dot
com and go to her episode page. You'll see that
link directly initial All you need to do is hit

(42:30):
enter and you'll be connected. Katie, thank you so much
for being on the show. It's been a really fun
conversation with her.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
My pleasure and sorry for the technical difficulties at the beginning.
Your your patience is appreciated.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
What technical difficulties. I don't remember any technical difficulties. Right,
We'll talk to you. Take care,

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