July 22, 2025 • 77 mins
Is Penn State overrated?
Can Ohio State repeat?
Will Indiana replicate their 2024 success?
How bad is Purdue?
Just how easy is Illinois's schedule?
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Can Ohio State repeat?
Will Indiana replicate their 2024 success?
How bad is Purdue?
Just how easy is Illinois's schedule?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
We go.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
BARBARAE back here. You're all invited. Welcome to the Sloop Cast.
How are you doing today?
Speaker 3 (00:05):
K all right, Jared doner right, how are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Doing good? Doing good? New tradition, good tradition, including the
part where the can pham's up. But that's okay, that's okay.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
You're here.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Should I should probably wash my desk, Matt.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Yeah, and one of those things you don't really think
too much about or even like, hey, you know you
know your keyboard there, Well take a good old take
a take a good old air spray to it once
in a while.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Just I mean, at the very least, turn it upside
down and shake it.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
That's the very least that you can do. Yeah, this
is the.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Very very least. But let's let's face fact about who
our audience probably is. Just saying, so.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Your phone here, uh, your charger could use a little
cleaning once in.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
A while, almost certainly because most of the you know what, Kyle,
no one cares. Kyle and Jared, no one cares. No
one cares about my charging habits. I care, Okay, Well,
I almost always use a magnet to charge my phone,
So I'm saying my magnet died two weeks ago, so
(01:22):
I need a new one. I have follow up questions,
but that's not what we're doing today, and we need
to focus and lock in. We need to focus and
lock in. What are we doing today, Kyle, great question.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
We are not doing a Wasteland episode, Jared. We are
getting into football season here. Twenty twenty five schedule for
the Big Ten is what we're gonna go ahead and cover.
We're gonna go ahead and kind of do our yearly
Big Ten preview here.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, and yeah, lots to cover here.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
I know, I know that we don't have a.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
A lot of time. We have an hour to try
to get through all.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
What are we up to? Sixteen teams?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Twenty teams, thirty to twenty four something like that in
my mind, because I've already like projected it forward. I'm
already like, well, there's cal and there's Stanford, and there's UNC.
I like I'm already adding these Virginia, which is my
(02:33):
next prediction is those four teams. But anyway, that's once again,
stay on topic. Yeah, once again, stay on topic.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
All right, all right, let's let's go ahead and get
right into it here. I guess I guess it is
it really worth or really it doesn't really matter like
every whatever happened in twenty twenty four happened in twenty
twenty four.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Sure, with the.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
With everything coming, with everything that's happening in today's age
of college football, with the transfer portal and the increase
in scholarships, you gotta you gotta treat each year as
a new year, not not be like, oh, how States
the reigning champions, They're they're they're gonna they're gonna be
favorites to do it again this year, which sure, yeah
(03:30):
they are, but so some but some of the other
teams too, like, oh, well, UCLA did terrible last year,
so they're gonna do terrible this year, or whatever the
case may be, or not a perfect example, perfect example
Jared Indiana, Indiana did really well last year that that
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was a quote unquote fluke because of their schedule, because
of because of just how this season laid out. Okay,
and they're they're due to not do well this year
just because of their Indiana they have a one good year.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
And then they followed back to me, I'm not sending them,
I'm not sending them back to the playoffs, but I
do have them having at least a good peer. Sure.
I guess my point is that each each year, each
each year, by Indiana standards, Yeah, each year's is completely different,
and you can't base off the twenty twenty five season
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of what they did the previous year. It's ultimately what
I was trying to get at. I mean, and that's
that's fair. I mean, we saw Indiana to go back
to Indiana example, they were projected to be one of
the worst teams in the Big Ten last year and
had a fantastic season even with their less than stellar schedule. Yeah,
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and I think, you know, we might look at Illinois
this year as a team and we'll get into like
we're gonna we're gonna predict every single team's conference records.
We're sticking to the conference stuff. We're gonna predict every
single team's conference records at the end of the show.
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But Illinois is a team who's going to have a
really good Big Ten Conference schedule or good good, really
good Big Ten Conference record, I believe, and I think
it'll I think the record will make you think that
they're a better team than they really are because their
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conference schedule is is kind of weak. That but you
know we'll we'll get into that part of it later.
We will also be working through big shout out to
the guys over at Pick six Previews. We are using
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their guide as a bit of a framework for what
we're doing here today, So big shouts outs to them.
We're we're essentially going to be kind of reacting to
some of their rankings and using that as a vehicle
to talk about our rankings or our you know, we're
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going to react to their to their stuff. So let's
let's bring up the first slide I have here. These
are the Pick six Previews national rankings, but these are
just the Big ten teams from those national rankings. And Kyle,
you said Ohio State is favorited to win the Big Ten,
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and know they are not. Well, I said, to be fair,
I said the to win it all again. But I
also don't think that's probably the case. I I personally
don't state. I don't have Ohio State repeating this year.
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I mean, we'll do a full Ohio State preview at
some point, but I think Ohio State, the Ohio State sphere,
fans and media alike, are really underplaying the fact that
Ohio State had the best two coordinators in the in
the country last year and they've both both left YEP,
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and then of course a huge senior class, lots of
players departing. Of course I get it like all of
that too, but you had the best coordinator pair in
the country last year and they're both gone though, And
I don't think that's getting enough play.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
M Yeah, I think I think overall overall what the
Big six Previews has here, and for those that listening
in and not seeing this, they have Penn State number
one overall, not just number one in the Big ten,
but number one overall, Ohio State third, Oregon seven, USC fifteen,
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the team up North eighteen, Indiana twenty third, Nebraska twenty six,
Washington thirty one, Illinois thirty two, and I'll just stop there.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I'll say that Purdue is the second last team pick
six only does the Power five four excuse me four
force of habit who.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Was the sixty eight? I actually missed that Stanford with
almost Stanford.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
It tracks, It tracks, That's all I'm saying. But yeah, no,
Purdue is going to be really really bad this year.
Hot hot take. I know y'all are tuning into this
waiting to hear what I have to say about Purdue
not going to be good. Yeah, going out on a limb. Hear,
(09:05):
so not going to be good?
Speaker 4 (09:06):
How do you want to handle this, Jared? Do you
want to just go with each team and how I
think last year we went and and gave a prediction
of records, how they how they did?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I want to say that's again this year. Well, I
I want to save record predictions for the end of
the show. I have a whole thing for that. I think,
just as a preseason preview, take a look at this
and for example, I'm gonna say, I don't I think
Penn State is overrated And no, it's it's easy to
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say when they're the number one team in the country
per Pick six. I mean, they literally can only be overrated,
but I.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Mean they they arguably they arguably have according to according
to the Pick six preview here in they're all Big
Ten offense.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
They have exactly spikes, they have the best quarterback and
Drew Aler running back in Nicholas Singleton backup running back
and kJ Allen ten in the Big Ten. Yes, yeah,
yeah yeah, and uh one of the fucking talk.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
They have an offensive lineman first team as well too,
so and they have a pair of other offensive lineman
third team as well, so they have a They have
a pretty good offense here. Now we've had some concerns
on their playmakers on the outside there, but running it
down your throat, I think Penn State can really get
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that done this year based on based on the personnel
that they have.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I hear that. Did they go out and get some
word of amazing wide receiver to play on the outside
in the transfer portal this year? They didn't. I'm not.
I'm not actually gonna like. I'm just they did not.
And also esquire excuse me that as Squire Spikes has
a very important and invalid question for you in in
(11:19):
the chat, and that question is who is their head coach?
Kyle I said, still, Franklin, hold on, I didn't just
say a wide receiver. I had qualifications on that. For
the record, Yes, Franklin is I don't. I don't trust
James Franklin m.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Game.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
I think I've mentioned this number of times. Like I
have a co worker, big Penn State fan. Him and
I talk a lot about college football. Respect for each other.
We have respect for each other's teams and all that
both hate. Both hate the team up north with the passion.
We get along even though he's a Penn State fan,
but we both do a like. Franklin's a pretty good recruiter,
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but even as a Penn State fan, he's like, I
cannot trust him making cause, making the right cause when
when the game's on the line.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
James Franklin was the right guy for Penn State when
they hired him, and he's taken them as far as
James Franklin is capable of taking them. If they want
to take the next step, I don't think it'll be
with James Franklin. But that's a that's a whole other conversation.
I understand. So you said, like, oh, Pick six has
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this many people in the All Big ten team. Listen,
and I'm not just calling out. I have vast respect
for the Pick six preview guys. This is not a
shot at them at all. Again, vast respect for them
any preview, not just there's any preview. When they're putting
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together these lists, there go. They always favor the more
talented teams because you're not gonna put it doesn't matter
how good Julian saying is. You can't predict. You can't
simply say he's gonna be better than Drew Aller this year, which,
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by the way, is a possibility. I think that's especially
if you look at it from a statistical standpoint because
of the offenses they play in and who Julian Saying
has to throw to. Saying can very easily have a
much better stat line this year than Drew Aller. But
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they can't just come out and say a guy who's
never played a significant snap in college football is the
best quarterback in the Big Ten this year. That would
be a ridiculous thing to do. Point is is that
these rankings are always going to favor a team with
a lot of returning guys. Ohio State dominated like the
national position rankings last year because they had so many
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people coming back. It's just how these lists always end
up turning out. And I understand, like, if you look
at the last two national champions Asterix Asterix, Asterix for
the one for two years ago, who were they? They
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were Big Ten teams where a bunch of people who
weren't expected to return returned and therefore had incredibly talented,
incredibly experienced football teams with very experienced quarterbacks, and then
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they ran that to the national title. Game. It's very
easy to look at what Michigan did, asterix what Ohio
State did, and then apply that same formula to Penn State.
Thank you, Spikes. But the difference is Michigan either listen
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one of two or maybe a combination of these two
things are true about Michigan. They had a good coach
and they cheated, So like good coaching, whether it be
legitimately good coaching or not, is a subject for a
different show. Ohio State, again, Ryan Day is an excellent coach.
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Does he have an issue with Michigan, Yes he does,
but outside of that is a really, really good coach
and as I talked about earlier in the show, has
a tremendous us had the best coordinator pair in the
country last year. And yes, you can be like, well,
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Jared Knowles is now at Penn State, sure is. Here's
the thing, though, when Ohio State brought in Knowles, their
defense was their weakness. Penn State's weakness is not their defense.
If Penn State had gone out and got whoever you
consider the equivalent to Knowles is if they had gotten
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Chip Kelly, I'd be much more concerned. Whoever You the listener,
pick your favorite offensive coordinator in college football. If they
hired that guy, I'd be more concerned. But their defense
was already fantastic. If they had stole Chip Kelly from US,
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that would be more concerning than them stealing Knowles from US.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Defense outstanding. Yeah, their offense, as I mentioned earlier, they
need they need some help on the outsides as they've
historically have, they haven't really had a really good set
of wide receivers that you have to really respect compared
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to compared to other teams in the past too, So
I think that's another other weakness for Penn State here.
Still still really really good team here. I mean you
look at last year, like they did really well. They
they lost by seven points Ohio State, they lost by
a score to Oregon, they lost by a score.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
To Notre Dame.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
All really close losses last year, so really really close.
They really close to getting it done, so to speak
to And they get to return return a lot of
players on the offense get to get some more experience,
and their defense is still gonna be really solid as
well too, And as Jared mentioned, an elite defensive coordinator.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
To top that off too.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
So yeah, doesn't surprise me that Penn State is right
top three, top five, and a lot of people previews
look at us talking like sec about quality losses. I
mean one of those, one of those losses was the
Notre Dame. They're not in the big ten yet. All right,
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any Kyle, we're already coming up in twenty minutes and
we probably need to move on. I said Penn State's overrated,
and then we've been on that ever since. I think
Ohio State's appropriately rated. I think they're a top five team.
I don't think they're a top two team. I believe
the top two teams are are Texas and Oregon. That
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that is my take. Those are the two teams who
I expect to see in the National Championship Game. I
think Oregon in Texas, So I think Oregon at seven
is underrated. USC and Michigan at fifteen and eighteen shut
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up and show me. I mean I get it, like
there's after you get past like twelve or thirteen teams,
it becomes a bit of a grab bag. I just
I don't I don't see the love for USC. I
think pick Sicks Previews has USC overrated here. I just
don't see the talent. Quite frankly, actually, let me let
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me pull that up real quick, because I don't think
we care to talk about We already talked about Indiana.
Nebraska will be I think Nebraska will take a good
step forward this year, and that's about it. Like I
don't so I think twenty six is probably good for them.
So Kyle up on the screen right now, pick six
previews All Americans. And these are just the big ten
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players from these all American teams. We're not going to
read out all of these because we just be sitting
here reading names for the next five minutes. But the
first team is Nicholas Singleton at Penn State, first team
running back. Before we go into that, let's go and
(20:27):
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(20:49):
Americans spikes asks. These are regular season rankings or final rankings.
These are regular season rights kings. They did do a
full playoff prediction, but I think that's outside the scope
of the show and I don't want to give away
all of their stuff on on on here As a
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preseason ranking, No, I think three is appropriate. Three, four,
or five I think would be appropriate for Ohio State personally.
First team All American from the Big Ten. You have
Penn State with Jeremiah Or with Nicholas Singleton, Ohio State
with Jeremiah Smith, Max Claire, the Purdue transfer in Caleb Downs.
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Indiana gets a pair of defensive players on the board
with Michael Kamara and di'angelo Ponds. No huge surprises here.
That being said, find a USC player, I'll save you
some time. There's none. There plenty of Penn State players,
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plenty of Ohio State players. H Indiana with more than
their fair share. But again, I think there's a bit
of a veteran bias there. Indiana is a very old team,
but that's that's just how these rankings work. They're always
going to listen if you don't believe in the veteran
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bias and these things. How many Ohio State fans are
really excited for Tiger Cubola. With all due respect to Tagra,
these third team All American. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not gonna.
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I'm not coming to explain that further out of respect
for Tiger Cibola, but no, no Sony Styles coming in
at in the second team for Ohio State. There Carnel
Tate third team, and yeah, I think that's all the
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State players. Yeah, in the first through fourth team. But
you understand my point. I don't. I don't understand other
than the brand and a lot of people just thinking that,
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you know, well, the coach was so good at Oklahoma,
Surely this is the year. Surely this is the year
he finally turns things around at USC. Excuse me, but
I just don't see it. All right, Kyle, look at
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the it's a little bit easier to read, a little
bit easier to discuss. These are the Pixicks Previews position
group rankings. These are national rankings. But these are just
the Big ten teams. Once again, I have the Big
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ten unit ranks up on my show notes. So if
you're curious about just ask. But Ohio State coming in
at eight with an unproven quarterback, does that negate everything
I just said about veteran bias. I don't think so.
I just don't think there's that many good quarterbacks in
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college football this year. I think that there were a
lot of because of COVID and because of players coming
back because of NIL. I think that there was a
log jam of experienced quarterbacks in college football. And I
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think we're starting to see the other end of that
now of their not being a lot of experienced guys
coming back, but Penn State coming in at number four.
I mean, these are one of the few position groups
where you can kind of just call it almost you
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can almost call it just one guy. And Drew Aller
did make the fourth team All American for quarterbacks, so
that tracks at wide receiver Kyle wide receiver slash color
I should say color me surprised Penn State at thirteenth
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if you're curious. Their Big Ten rankings, as you would
expect it to be, is fourth, and I I don't
see it. I don't see that for Penn State. Penn
State either and Ohio State are both represented in all
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five position group rankings. They're the only Big Ten teams
to make the top fifteen at each ranking, obviously because
they're the only two to place for quarterback. But I
don't I do not see I mean, they got good
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tight ends, so I guess that helps buoy it because
it is wide receiver slash tight end, so that helps.
And also when we say that Penn State doesn't have
any good wide receivers, we are judging that like an
elite level, you know, We're judging that like in a
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you know, top ten, top you know level when we
say no good wide receivers. So with the tight ends included,
and with the fact that we're harsh, we're judging them
very harshly because they have national championship expectations. So with
those expectations come you know, hard analysis. But still it
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feels wrong to have Penn State is having the thirteenth
best pass catching group in the country.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Yeah, I'm kind of cus I'm kind of curious on
what on their decision behind that here. I'm just I'm
still looking here.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
I mean, you want to if you want to read
the whole thing, I'm sure they explained that decision making process.
But that's not a thing we're gonna We're not gonna
give away all of pick six free these secrets on
you know, that would be rude of us. So if
you want to read their reasoning, you can go read
their reasoning and you know, get your Enn pick six
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pre or maybe go listen to their podcast and I'm
sure they've explained it at some point, or like I said,
you can you can read the guide yourselves. I've read
their explanation. But again, I don't want to give I
don't want to give away all of their stuff on
the show. It's just rude. But yeah, I don't know.
Thirteenth for Penn State seems high. Also, I really like
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the quarterback organ As coming in had a year played
as a true freshman at UCLA under Chip Kelly. Because
remember they brought in the two. Of course, depending on
whose rankings you look at, they brought in the two
best transfer quarterbacks the year before last. Only one of
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them played the other one played as a true freshman
at UCLA and or Chip Kelly. I like him more
than other people apparently like him. It's all I'm gonna
say there. Oregon does come in at the fifth best
fifth best quarterback grouping specifically in the Big Ten, which
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puts them behind Penn State and Ohio State. Obviously Indiana.
Indiana got a really good transfer quarterback to come in,
so that makes sense. Illinois coming in at fourth I
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just like Oregon more than the PI six preview guys,
and I don't like Penn State as much as the
Pick six review guys. I still think Penn State's a
playoff team. I still think Penn State just needs to
they could win the Big Ten. But they played both
Ohio State and Oregon. They do.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Yeah, that was something that we haven't really covered yet.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Was and we'll get there.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Looking at the looking at the schedules in here, Yeah, Oregon,
Oregon definitely not Oregon. Penn State definitely has uh some
tough has some tough games here. They thankfully the thankfully
the Oregon and State games are.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Went to home once away, not they're not both away.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
So sure, but it's so so doesn't so it doesn't
help them out there.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Penn State also comes in first in the country at
the defensive line for pixix previews, and I'll say right now,
I don't I don't disagree with that. Yeah, they got
they got some, they got some studs. Penn States. I
understand the rankings and I understand the hype. They have
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one of the best offense. They'll probably probably have one
of the best offensive lines in the country. They have
I would say the best. I mean in Pixick's preview
also does say. It says that they have the best
running back room in the country, and I don't disagree
with that whatsoever. I think they are far and away
the best running back group in the country. You're returning
a pair of one thousand yard running backs returning, right,
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which Ohio State did last year. They didn't both get
a thousand at Ohio State, but sure they both did
have a thousand yard seasons under their belt. So once again,
I understand why people are taking the formula that Michigan
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and Ohio State both you know, you can sort of
loosely say that if that's the new formula in the
NIL era and in the you know, much more free
wheeling transfer portal era, if you can look at Ohio
State and Michigan and say that's the new template. I
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understand how Penn State fits into that template. I get it,
and I could be wrong, But at the end of
the day, James Franklin, Yeah, yep, High of State fifth
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best offensive line in the country, key transfers there. It's
hard to say how I don't know all the other
team's offensive lines well enough to say how good that
is or isn't, But I will say that it makes
me feel better about the offensive line.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Especially if you look at where they have ranked for
their all Big Ten offense, only one Ohost the offensive lineman,
rated in first, second or third team.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yeah, I don't think he's the best offensive lineman on
the on the offensive line. I don't think he's in
the top three best offensive lineman on the offensive line. Personally,
High State is returning linebackers, so they do have the
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number one in the Big Ten, number one linebacker group
in the Big Ten, I don't know. Like as far
as style, it's there, Yeah, that's the reason. And as
far as me not understanding the USC hype, again, if
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we just look at these position group rankings, they only
show up once. I don't understand how you're the fifteenth
best team in the country and you only in like
your your best position ranking is that you have the
twelfth best wide receiver slash tight end rooms in the country.
That does not hold a ton of water for me.
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In the Big Ten, they are eighth at quarterback, twelfth
at running back. They are third, and like I said,
wide receiver, tight ends sixth, offensive lines, sixth, defensive line
ninth linebackers, eleventh defensive backs. They're good at one position, mediocre,
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mediocre at everything else, At everything else except running back
and defensive back, where you're bad. I don't understand the
USC hype, and quite frankly, the coaching didn't leave Oklahoma.
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The coach left Oklahoma, the results did not. Yeah, as
far as uh, you have anything else, Kyle, you want
to touch on for either sort of teams, overrated, underrated
position groups, all Americans, anything in those realms you want
(35:15):
to keep talking about. No, No, I don't. I don't
think so.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
I think.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
I think I think we covered it pretty well here
last year. Or how State was to talk about all
the returning players this year it's Penn State. So we'll see,
we'll see how it plays out.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Yeah, I mean again, that's if that's if that's the template.
I I get it. I understand the hype, but I
just don't agree with it. You want to start looking
at the you want to start doing record predictions, Sure,
(35:57):
that's go ahead and do that. Let's do it at
break Yeah, doing early we can just so we can
just focus roll, we can just roll right through it.
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Speaker 4 (36:59):
Second break and get back to our predictions.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
I didn't, I didn't even I didn't even imply like
the football teams at all. Like it's literally just the
skyline plus the name of the city. All right, let's
go in alphabet Let's go in alphabetical order, Jared, Oh,
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I'm on their own screen.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
There we go.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Let's go in alphabetical order here. I know it screws
yours up here, but yeah, it sure does.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Illinois. Here Illinois looking at their schedule, I'm sorry, Illinois
first alphabetically they are yes, that that that that is
a weird fact. I'm sorry, that's just weird.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
So Illinois out of Illinois. So okay, I'm just not
going to mention out out of conference at all. We're
talking about just Big ten here, so big in the
Big Ten, Illinois has Indiana, USC, Purdue, House State, Washington, Rutgers, Maryland, Wisconsin, Nebraska.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Yeah. Uh, I think its overall, it's pretty pretty reasonable.
I think it's a pretty good schedule for Illinois. It's
a soft schedule of the looking at away games, away games,
it's Wisconsin, Washington, Purdue in Indiana.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Yes, this is a very favorable schedule for Illinois.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Of what would beat with the with pits. What Pick
six Previews calls the top five teams in the Big
Ten this year, Illinois only draws one of them. Yeah,
they have Illinois at eight and a half winds as
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their projector I'm sorry, no, they don't.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
Another website I was looking at here, I forget which
one it was that, but they predicted Illinois with an
eight and a half wind and Jared, do you have
that just in the Big Ten Big Ten, going eight and.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
One just in the Big I assume that's a national
number from whatever you're looking at. Yeah it is. Yeah,
that's Do they have some sort of who's who is there?
Out of conference?
Speaker 3 (39:41):
I can tell it.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
I can tell.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
What all schedule.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
I can tell you that I can recognize two names
they play at. They go to Durham to play Duke.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
Uh, they do have home to Western Michigan.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
I had to look up who the who week one
was and it is Western Illinois.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
So no, they aren't playing a good out of con that.
I'm don't don't real life gamble or do ain't you're
an adult. But eight and a half wins for the
season for Illinois?
Speaker 5 (40:28):
Who cause?
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Don't just leave it at that?
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Who?
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Okay? Because like I have them eight and one in conference,
that's with a lost to Ohio State, which I think
is totally fair and valid. I have them beating USC.
That could go either way. Maybe USC is a lot
better than I think that they are. But the other
teams aren't Indiana. Maybe it's it's in Bloomington, maybe maybe maybe,
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And then yeah, I'm sorry, we're not gonna start acting
like Bloomington is a tough place to go play. We
aren't gonna do that, I know, Jerry. Outside of that,
Washington might be better than we're expecting this year. Okay,
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but like, the four best teams you play in the
Big Ten are Ohio State, which is obviously tough, USC one, Indiana,
and Washington. Those are the those are the toughest games.
Those are the top four games on their entire schedule, because,
as Kyle pointed out, there's no I.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
Would say seven and two. I would say seven and
two they lose, they lose to USC or Indiana.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
I think that's one of those. I think that's valid.
I I didn't give myself the opportunity to be like, oh, well,
between these two games, they'll win one of them. Like
I I if you're looking at the screen, if you're
watching this on YouTube, I have the entire Big Ten
schedule predicted, and I didn't predict really any upsets. These
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are just like I think this team's better than that team,
and I think this team's better than that team. Like
I just went chalk with it.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
Let's move on to the next one. Here in alphabetical order.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Indiana the woosures.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Yes, I have them going six and three. I have
them losing to Penn State, Oregon, and Illinois, and as
we discussed that Illinois game as we sit here in July,
feels a bit like a toss up. Yeah, so that
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could go either way. Both Oregon.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
And Penn State are away for them. Okay, not like
home would have Not like home would have done much
of a difference.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
But I mean, I don't think Indiana's gonna be nearly
as good this year as they were last year. But
there's still there's still talent on that team, and that's
still a well coached team. This is the type of
team that could pull an upset if you don't show
up ready to play Indiana. Indiana can beat you, sure,
And Penn State and Oregon are gonna be facing teams
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all year. You know where where that falls in the
schedule for each of those teams matters too. If it's
sandwiched in between two other really tough games, then Indiana
turns Indiana is a very easy trap game, very easy
trap game.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
So all right, yeah, I think I think that's reasonable
with what you have, six and a three, six and three, Yeah,
I think that's I think that sounds right.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Okay, Iowa, I do not have i having a good
Big Ten season this year.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
No, just just looking at who they play here, Penn State, Oregon,
USC Indiana as you're like your top quarter of the
of the Big Ten there.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
And then Nebraska is a hard pool too. I mean again,
I think Nebraska is going to be a much better
team this year than they were last year. Yeah, in
their their true freshman quarterback is now all of a sudden,
the very experienced sophomore. You have a really good coach
there who is now in his third year's last week, yeah,
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last last week thirty years regulars, Yeah, last week in
the season.
Speaker 4 (44:50):
Then they're heading on over to Nebraska as well. So yeah,
maybe maybe not maybe not a good.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
Poll for for Iowa.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
So you have Spikes points out three and six. Uh,
Spikes points out that they get Penn State and Oregon
at home if either of those games or night games,
don't play night game, don't play night games in Iowa City.
Speaker 4 (45:17):
Look at look at week eleven, Week eleven, let's just say,
let's just say Iowa and.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Oregon week eleven, if that's a night game. I was
coming off of bye week there, end of it. Tonight listen,
maybe just maybe we'll find out next week if that's
going to be a night game or not. Not in reality,
but just because Kyle Austin and I are going to
be bringing back the Big Ten, the Big Ten Game draft,
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you can look over that next week. All right, the Turks,
Maryland Terps coming up here. Not not not going to
be a good year. No outside of Boston.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
No.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
But by the way, I don't know if I actually
said it, I have I would go in three and
I would going three and six in in conference this year.
That that sounds right. I'm thinking over Wisconsin, Michigan State,
and Rutgers.
Speaker 4 (46:20):
I'm thinking four. I'm thinking four and five. Maybe they
pull one out in Nebraska, maybe to Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Look like you have in Minnesota. Minnesota is a jump game.
I acknowledge that Minnesota is a jump game that could
go either way.
Speaker 4 (46:35):
All right, Yeah, Maryland here, they don't have that tough
of a inconference schedule. Their toughest one, I'm just going
down the list here is home game against the team
up north Maryland. They do play Dodge, Illinois.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Maryland dodges Penn State, Ohio State, and Oregon. That's amazing
and it's damn. It's a damn shame they aren't good
enough to take advantage of it. Yeah, right, that's a
real because I'm just saying, look at, look at just
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just take a quick peek at Rutgers, who drew all
three of them on an eight an eight from Maryland. Yeah,
I have their only win against Sparty, who I think
is gonna.
Speaker 4 (47:31):
Be I have here, I have heard the over under
from Maryland wins total season totals four and a half
that I'm gonna and and yes, they played nobody in
there out of conference, they played nobody. Okay, that disturbing
trend in not just the Big Ten, but in the
Big Ten this year with there's a lot of bad
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bad out of conference this year. Yeah, but that's another discussion. Uh,
you you have Maryland one in eight that that sounds
about right, Yeah, that sounds about right. The team up North,
Team up North, Jared, who do they play? Of course
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they play Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
But as far as the well, I mean, they are
the fourth team again according to Pick six previews, they
are the fourth team in the Big Ten. So obviously
they don't play themselves, but they but they dodge the
other two. You know, I would say, Kyle, do you
agree with this statement? There are three powerhouse teams in
the Big Ten this year Penn State, Ohio State, and Oregon. YEP,
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quick and pro two tier list. Second tier would be
like Michigan, USC, maybe Indiana, maybe Nebraska, and I said Illino, Illinois.
I can you can add Illinois to that. But yeah,
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old say Michigan, us C L Washington. Though, Okay, we've
now made it too confusing. I can't do it in
my head, so let's go back to what we were doing.
So so the team team up North, I will say,
the bottom tier for me is just don't know, just
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m S U U C L A wrecords Northwest have Maryland,
you have them, you have them special hell.
Speaker 4 (49:34):
You have them going six and three losing to Ohio State,
USC and Nebraska. They do have home to Ohio State,
away to Nebraska and away to USC as well.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Yeah, that's they have they have. But again have them
going to Dodge, Penn State and Oregon, which is pretty
huge for them.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
M S.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
It was it was size the site I was looking for,
size where I pulled the the over hunters here.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
They have them.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Have the team up North going nine and a half. Okay,
so that's my prediction, plus the three non conference wins. Well,
nine and a half doesn't get you there because that
would just take you to a total of nine. And
and for the record, if you said to me, I
think they win either the USC or the Nebraska game,
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I wouldn't disagree with you. Like I don't think I
could disagree with that that they win one of those games. Again,
I I just predicting it. I had to pick win
or loss Northwestern and Maryland, which is, as Spikes points
out in the chat, which is just that's of the
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bottom what six teams they get four of them? Yeah,
that's that's that's I was about to say, Like I
was about to say, like the defense really good, there's
I think I think there will still be a really
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good defense.
Speaker 4 (51:20):
Offense is still there's a lot of unknowns offensively and
how how they're going to how they're going to be
and if they're going to be able to score enough
points to keep up with the the Ohio States, the Oregons,
the Penn States.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
Yeah they're not, but who I feel like Michigan has
at least one not great but pretty good out a
conference game. Yeah, I feel like they have a respect
conference game.
Speaker 3 (51:51):
It's it's it's Oklahoma. It's at Oklahoma.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
That's more than respectable. That's that's pretty good. I remember
they had the whole thing about like, oh, well, we're
not we're going to suspend. We're going to suspend the coach,
but but not for the We're not going to do it.
Speaker 4 (52:08):
For the Oklahoma game because I'm not gonna because he's
a he's a graduate from there, and we're not gonna.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
We're not going to do that to him. Yeah, Michigan
is not going to get a choice.
Speaker 3 (52:22):
And three.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
I think I think I think that's I think that's fine.
I think that's I think that's reasonable. Six and three
there not. But if if if the if the number,
if the Vegas number is actually nine and a half
wins over under, Oh my god, smash that under so hard.
All right, big brother Sparty, Big brother Sparty here.
Speaker 4 (52:45):
Uh, I think it's gonna be another rough terrible. I
think it's gonna be terrible, another another rough year.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
It's just for them here, it's just fast forward through Sparty.
We don't need to talk about Sparty. I have I
have them going one and eight with a win over
U C l A, and quite fright, they both suck.
So whatever. Next team, Uh, Jared's Golden Gophers are next.
Not my not my Golden Gophers. They have a they
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have a pretty decent schedule. They do pull both Ohio
State and Oregon, which is tough.
Speaker 1 (53:20):
They do.
Speaker 2 (53:23):
They pull Nebraska, who I'm pretty sure they lose to.
But outside of that, they have a very bottom heavy schedule. Iowa, Wisconsin,
Michigan State, Rutgers, Northwestern, Perdue, like W after W after
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W after W. So, while I don't like Minnesota that
much this year, don't be surprised they still have them
going plus five hundred in the conference.
Speaker 3 (53:57):
Don't be surprised.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
You could see the Golden Gopher going into Columbus Week
six undefeated, coming in at four. Oh, good for them.
Speaker 4 (54:07):
Next team the Cornhuskers, Nebraska.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
I'm nebraskaing eight and one in conference this year? Whoa
eight and one? Yeah? And I'll say this, and I'll
say this, it probably should be seven and two between
Michigan and USC. They probably lose one of those two games.
But again that's not how I did it. So if
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you want to say, ah, Jared, I think it's more
like seven and two. I'm not going to argue with
you on that, but like, okay, so they get Penn State,
who they'll lose to. They have Michigan and USC, which
I gave them both wins over, but realistically they should
probably go five hundred in those two games. Then after
that their schedule is just dog shit Iowa and Minnesota,
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who I think they're both pretty easily better than Michigan State, UCLA,
Northwestern in Maryland. It's they have a very bottom heavy schedule.
They have one two pretty good games. Yeah, Sy has
them at seven and a half. And is Jared a secret?
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Is Jared a secret? Rayla fan? I think he's insanely talented.
I think he looked great last year considering he was
a true freshman, and he's not a true freshman anymore.
I don't it's a well coached football team. Yes, we're
talking about Nebraska. I think they're a well coached football team.
I don't think they have a ton of talent, and
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that's obviously going to hold them back against the better teams.
But I think they take a good step forward this year.
And again that eight and one conference prediction that largely
off the back of a pretty weak schedule. Sure, I
don't agree with eight and one. I'm thinking more of
like six and three. What about what I'm taking. I mean, again,
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the USC Michigan games. They could lose both of those games,
so it's not sure.
Speaker 4 (56:17):
All right, all right, we got to move a little
bit quicker here, I know, and we want to talk
about Cornhuskers a little bit more that they do play Cincinnati,
a little bit tougher opponent in Week one, But I
digress Northwestern. Uh, do you have Northwestern.
Speaker 2 (56:34):
Winning a game? I have them beating Purdue again, I think?
Do I think I have I have the bottom tier
of the Big Ten as Michigan State, UCLA, Wretors, Northwestern,
Maryland and Purdue. But realistically Purdue belongs in their own
little section of tier list. Now they're they're going to
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be terrible this year.
Speaker 4 (56:57):
Mm hmm, yeah, that they are going to be. Uh,
I'm just looking at who they play.
Speaker 2 (57:05):
Austin says, I have Northwestern two and seven. I mean
they could beat U C, l A. Both of those
teams to be pretty bad this year, so that's that's fine.
Speaker 4 (57:14):
Penn State, Oregon and Michigan. So they play three of
the top four predicted in top four Big Ten teams. Tough,
that's tough for uh Northwestern there, Ohio State, all right,
Ohio State here, Jared, Penn State and and the team
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up north are the two teams that are Hi State
pulled here, and there's actually quite a bit of separation then.
Speaker 3 (57:46):
From there for the.
Speaker 2 (57:47):
Next opponents that they play. I'm sorry, what team are
we talking about? I was reading the chat the buck
Eyes the.
Speaker 4 (57:56):
Buck Eyes Jared mentioned about Penn State and the team
up North, and then there's a good separation of quality teams.
Speaker 2 (58:05):
Yeah, oh does dodge. I mean they obviously play Michigan,
who I don't think is the fourth best team in
the Big Ten this year. I don't think they're the
eighteenth best team in the country this year. But for
the sake of like what Pick six preview says, they
are the fourth best team in the Big Ten. Outside
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of that, Ohio State dodges like a lot of the
middle tier teams. They dodge USC, Indiana, and Nebraska. Who
I would say, like the middle tier again is like Michigan, USC, Indiana, Nebraska, Illinois.
Maybe throw Washington in there, but I don't think so.
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They dodge of the middle tier teams they only play
Illinois and Michigan. It gives them a lot of leeway
to kind of have a bad game and not lose
as a as a part of it. Of the bottom
tier teams, they get three of them, with UCLA, Rutgers
in Purdue. They might as well play a MAC team
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when playing Purdue, and not a good MAC team. I'm
not talking like one of the better MAC teams. I'm
talking like Idue would not win the MAC this year. No, no,
they would not, all right, but guys, you have them
going in undefeat nine and oh yeah. I mean the
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Penn State game can go either way. But at the
end of the day, yo, Penn States, in Penn States,
in Columbus, they do go up to ann Arbor.
Speaker 3 (59:38):
At the end of the year.
Speaker 2 (59:40):
They do go to Champagne in week seven. There. Ah,
yep that I was just making sure that they didn't
have a a bye week before that because it's Penn
State and noonkick not officially, but you know, damn well.
Speaker 3 (59:59):
Yeah, I would agree.
Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
I think nine and oh obviously eight and one on
the table there, but yeah, I would say nine and
oh yeah Oregon Oregon next here.
Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
I have them going nine and oh in conference as well,
they play Penn State. They have to go to Happy Valley,
which is that's a it's a long trip. It's a
long trip into a place where there's not a good airport,
so there's a bus ride after that trip. I don't know.
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They might be a lane land the players in into there.
Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
And mentioned before mentioned before week eleven, they do get
to they do. Actually both teams have a bye week.
They do go and play on the road.
Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
To Iowa in week eleven as well, So kind of
circle a little bit about Week eleven on the road
to Iowa with both teams being coming off a bye week,
just just saying. And Oregon does dodge Ohio State, Michigan,
and Nebraska, so I have them going undefeated in conference.
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They don't get a lot of like the real bad
bottom feeders of the bottom tier teams, They only get
two of them, so that does make an upset a
little more possible for them. Sure, all right, Penn State,
Penn State.
Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
We mentioned already two losses just just now with Oregon
in Ohio State here.
Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
Ah, but I think they do.
Speaker 4 (01:01:36):
They do have quite a few of the lesser teams here.
I see on the schedule, I see Rutgers in Northwestern
and SPARTI u c l A.
Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
Yeah. I'll say that they are capable of winning every
single game. They're capable of being beating Ohio State. They're
capable of beating Oregon, more so Oregon than Ohio State
because it is a white out, is a very far
playing trip for the players. SI has a State, Oregon
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and Penn State all over unders at ten and a half.
I've lost faith in and what they have to say,
what Sports Illustriate has to say. But that's that's fine.
The I know it's just a reference for reference. I
understand it.
Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
I agree.
Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
I think seven and two doesn't surprise me. If it's
eight and one or nine to zero, all right, seventy
two at.
Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
The worst, seven and two is the worst. I wouldn't
say the worst because James Franklin, where Indiana or Nebraska
fall in the schedule, If it's right before or right
after Ohio State or Oregon, those are those could be
trap games. Man. Penn State going ten and two and
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losing exactly the two game you expect is the most
Penn State outcome. It feels inevitable saying that was exactly
last year for Penn State.
Speaker 4 (01:03:12):
All right, all right, moving on here, Perdue one of
the worst teams in the Power for teams.
Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Here, Yeah, they're bad. They lose every Big Ten game.
Next team fair.
Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
Uh, Rutgers, Rutgers here.
Speaker 5 (01:03:29):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
They have a tough they have a tough they have
a pretty tough schedule. But and that's it. Yeah, Rutgers
got a horrible schedule pool. They're the only thing home
in the Big Ten to draw all three Penn State,
Ohio State, and Oregon.
Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
Home to home to Oregon, home to Penn State. On
the road to Ohio State at the end of the year.
They play Ohio State and Penn State at the end.
Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Of the year. There they drew a ton of the
teams in the middle too. They don't get a lot
of the cupcakes. Only Maryland and Purdue. Is a terrible
schedule poll for w records. Siano media days would be
will be fun, terrible, terrible schedule pool for records. I
don't know who they pissed off and about what?
Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
Uh you see, LA is not much better. They play
some tough you see a play some tough teams to
Penn State.
Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
The Tier two.
Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
They play some Tier two like a lot a lot
of Tier two.
Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
Big ten teams as well. You see, LA doesn't have
it much better.
Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
I know they don't. It's not as top heavy as records,
but it's it's it's super fat. Maybe maybe one one
in there, maybe to like Maryland, may Greg shot. I
took a Fox execs wife to a Cold Play concert.
Oh that's funny. Who's next? Is that it? No? Well, no,
(01:05:02):
I said you see, I said U c l A.
And I don't think you heard anything. I said no,
I was too busy reading chat. I have U c
l A going oh to nine this year, mostly because
they don't play.
Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
Sure I think one, I think one game in there,
maybe Maryland. But yeah, they play some tough uh Tier
two Big ten teams. They don't have it much better
than Rutgers, USC USC next here, uh do not play
Pence State, do not play Penn State, Ohio State, but
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does play Michigan and Oregon.
Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:05:45):
Yeah, And it's kind of all over the place then
with who they play then, So I.
Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
Mean, if you look what six teams in the big
in the Big ten this year, mm hmm, they only
play two of them. Yeah, so that's maybe six, six
and three, So six and three or five and four
in the Big Ten? Would I have six and three?
All right, only losses coming to Oregon, Nebraska, and Illinois,
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And quite frankly, they could win against Nebraska, Illinois, they
have a USC is a pretty favorable schedule. Washington, Washington's
next up here. They they got tough. They do not
pay play Penn State, but they have Austate Oregon and
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the team up north as well. Yeah, it's a tough
schedule pool at the top for them. Very thin in
the middle though.
Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
Very thin.
Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
Yeah, they play a lot of lower Yeah, they pull
Illinois is like their only like Tier two team. They
pull Wisconsin is like their own like Tier three ish team.
And then I could see them winn U, c l A, Rutgers, Maryland,
and Purdue. I could see them winning games. I jumped,
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I jumped. You know, we we are talking about Washington. Yeah,
I mean I have them going five and four, even
though I don't like them that much.
Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
Yeah, very favorable schedule.
Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
Yeah they could depending upon what Illinois actually is this year,
because we're projecting Illinois be pretty good. But should we
h is a good question, Like they could very easily
go six and three this year and they're not that good. Yeah, Wisconsin, ouch,
they may have one of the toughest schedules. Oh my
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good Wisconsin. Not as top heavy as Wreckers. But yeah,
my goodness, I think is the best way to say it.
They're gonna get Fickle fired. They well, first off, I
don't know if Fickle should still have a job bing
six is three. I think six is generous, very generous.
I see like one win, two wins. I have them
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at one and eight in the Big Ten this year. Now, okay,
there are some very winnable games in here. They could
beat Minnesota, they could beat Iowa, they could beat Illinois.
They they're gonna have one of the tougher like this
is they have a I mean you could realistically, you know,
was Indiana flash in the Pan last year or not?
(01:08:29):
I don't know, I don't. I mean somewhere in between.
Like I think they're a bit of a flash in
the Pan but not. I don't think they're gonna be
terrible this year. Either.
Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
But like.
Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
This schedule, I mean, the only team from the bottom
tier that they play is Northwest or excuse me, Maryland.
They don't get Purdue, they don't get Northwestern, they don't
get Rutgers. They don't get UCLA, they don't get MSU.
That is harsh. Yeah, and Bama on the road, Spikes,
(01:09:02):
that's right. I forgot about that. They are playing Bama
on the road this year at a conference and then
the other games is Miami, Ohio and Middle Tennessee. If
they're playing Bama, Like, if.
Speaker 4 (01:09:16):
They are playing Bama that week three, Yeah, gosh, they
can go into their bat they can go in their
first four for first four weeks and they it may
be one in three, they may be sitting one and
three going into week six.
Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
This fick will make it to October. It's not like
Wisconsin to fire somebody in the middle of the season.
So yes, yes, I think they've done it. Maybe I
don't know, becaase that's back when they had Barry Alvarez,
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who would just jump in and start coaching if need be,
which is I don't think would happen now. Yeah, going on, right,
all right.
Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
We are way over on top. I'm here, but but yeah,
I think we got looks like it looks like here
in Big ten play Big ten, play your top teams.
I'm just looking off what Jared has here Ohio State
nine and Oh Oregon nine and oh Nebraska eight and one,
Illinois eight and one, and Penn State at seven and two.
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Are your top five teams there?
Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
Yeah, that's that's the prediction. And that's the end of
the show. Kyle, do you have anything in Kyle's corner?
Do I have anything Kywards corner? I mean we are
ten minutes over, I think is an acceptable answer to
that question. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
I always love the basketball.
Speaker 4 (01:10:50):
Tournament going on right now, the Carmen's Crew. I'm wearing
a Cruse shirt here. Carmen's Crew beginning their title defense here.
I did see that they did get the win over
their first opponent this weekend. Here's so the basketball tournament's
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always always a fun thing to keep an eye on.
So you're into that going on right now?
Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
There you go, And is that the entire Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:11:23):
Yeah, we'll just end it there. Just we'll just end it.
Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
There, all right. We will just end it there. Any
song requests from anyone, look stuff up. I mean we
can absolutely can do that, Austin. So I guess we
I guess we just will. We can do playing with
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the vapors today. So that's it. Tonight's ending music will
be playing the vapors. So with all that being said,
I'd like to encourage everyone to drink local beer, listen
to local music, and of course sports look podcasters. Once again,
he's on the ladies.
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blasting Gosa stop show like may God space got sca.
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Speaker 5 (01:14:23):
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to because it's not.
Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
Shot back a raycause suspense.
Speaker 5 (01:15:02):
Stas sat sta
We go.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
BARBARAE back here. You're all invited. Welcome to the Sloop Cast.
How are you doing today?
Speaker 3 (00:05):
K all right, Jared doner right, how are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Doing good? Doing good? New tradition, good tradition, including the
part where the can pham's up. But that's okay, that's okay.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
You're here.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Should I should probably wash my desk, Matt.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Yeah, and one of those things you don't really think
too much about or even like, hey, you know you
know your keyboard there, Well take a good old take
a take a good old air spray to it once
in a while.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Just I mean, at the very least, turn it upside
down and shake it.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
That's the very least that you can do. Yeah, this
is the.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Very very least. But let's let's face fact about who
our audience probably is. Just saying, so.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Your phone here, uh, your charger could use a little
cleaning once in.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
A while, almost certainly because most of the you know what, Kyle,
no one cares. Kyle and Jared, no one cares. No
one cares about my charging habits. I care, Okay, Well,
I almost always use a magnet to charge my phone,
So I'm saying my magnet died two weeks ago, so
(01:22):
I need a new one. I have follow up questions,
but that's not what we're doing today, and we need
to focus and lock in. We need to focus and
lock in. What are we doing today, Kyle, great question.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
We are not doing a Wasteland episode, Jared. We are
getting into football season here. Twenty twenty five schedule for
the Big Ten is what we're gonna go ahead and cover.
We're gonna go ahead and kind of do our yearly
Big Ten preview here.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, and yeah, lots to cover here.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
I know, I know that we don't have a.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
A lot of time. We have an hour to try
to get through all.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
What are we up to? Sixteen teams?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Twenty teams, thirty to twenty four something like that in
my mind, because I've already like projected it forward. I'm
already like, well, there's cal and there's Stanford, and there's UNC.
I like I'm already adding these Virginia, which is my
(02:33):
next prediction is those four teams. But anyway, that's once again,
stay on topic. Yeah, once again, stay on topic.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
All right, all right, let's let's go ahead and get
right into it here. I guess I guess it is
it really worth or really it doesn't really matter like
every whatever happened in twenty twenty four happened in twenty
twenty four.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Sure, with the.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
With everything coming, with everything that's happening in today's age
of college football, with the transfer portal and the increase
in scholarships, you gotta you gotta treat each year as
a new year, not not be like, oh, how States
the reigning champions, They're they're they're gonna they're gonna be
favorites to do it again this year, which sure, yeah
(03:30):
they are, but so some but some of the other
teams too, like, oh, well, UCLA did terrible last year,
so they're gonna do terrible this year, or whatever the
case may be, or not a perfect example, perfect example
Jared Indiana, Indiana did really well last year that that
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was a quote unquote fluke because of their schedule, because
of because of just how this season laid out. Okay,
and they're they're due to not do well this year
just because of their Indiana they have a one good year.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
And then they followed back to me, I'm not sending them,
I'm not sending them back to the playoffs, but I
do have them having at least a good peer. Sure.
I guess my point is that each each year, each
each year, by Indiana standards, Yeah, each year's is completely different,
and you can't base off the twenty twenty five season
(04:30):
of what they did the previous year. It's ultimately what
I was trying to get at. I mean, and that's
that's fair. I mean, we saw Indiana to go back
to Indiana example, they were projected to be one of
the worst teams in the Big Ten last year and
had a fantastic season even with their less than stellar schedule. Yeah,
(04:52):
and I think, you know, we might look at Illinois
this year as a team and we'll get into like
we're gonna we're gonna predict every single team's conference records.
We're sticking to the conference stuff. We're gonna predict every
single team's conference records at the end of the show.
(05:14):
But Illinois is a team who's going to have a
really good Big Ten Conference schedule or good good, really
good Big Ten Conference record, I believe, and I think
it'll I think the record will make you think that
they're a better team than they really are because their
(05:38):
conference schedule is is kind of weak. That but you
know we'll we'll get into that part of it later.
We will also be working through big shout out to
the guys over at Pick six Previews. We are using
(05:59):
their guide as a bit of a framework for what
we're doing here today, So big shouts outs to them.
We're we're essentially going to be kind of reacting to
some of their rankings and using that as a vehicle
to talk about our rankings or our you know, we're
(06:20):
going to react to their to their stuff. So let's
let's bring up the first slide I have here. These
are the Pick six Previews national rankings, but these are
just the Big ten teams from those national rankings. And Kyle,
you said Ohio State is favorited to win the Big Ten,
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and know they are not. Well, I said, to be fair,
I said the to win it all again. But I
also don't think that's probably the case. I I personally
don't state. I don't have Ohio State repeating this year.
(07:05):
I mean, we'll do a full Ohio State preview at
some point, but I think Ohio State, the Ohio State sphere,
fans and media alike, are really underplaying the fact that
Ohio State had the best two coordinators in the in
the country last year and they've both both left YEP,
(07:26):
and then of course a huge senior class, lots of
players departing. Of course I get it like all of
that too, but you had the best coordinator pair in
the country last year and they're both gone though, And
I don't think that's getting enough play.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
M Yeah, I think I think overall overall what the
Big six Previews has here, and for those that listening
in and not seeing this, they have Penn State number
one overall, not just number one in the Big ten,
but number one overall, Ohio State third, Oregon seven, USC fifteen,
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the team up North eighteen, Indiana twenty third, Nebraska twenty six,
Washington thirty one, Illinois thirty two, and I'll just stop there.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I'll say that Purdue is the second last team pick
six only does the Power five four excuse me four
force of habit who.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Was the sixty eight? I actually missed that Stanford with
almost Stanford.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
It tracks, It tracks, That's all I'm saying. But yeah, no,
Purdue is going to be really really bad this year.
Hot hot take. I know y'all are tuning into this
waiting to hear what I have to say about Purdue
not going to be good. Yeah, going out on a limb. Hear,
(09:05):
so not going to be good?
Speaker 4 (09:06):
How do you want to handle this, Jared? Do you
want to just go with each team and how I
think last year we went and and gave a prediction
of records, how they how they did?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I want to say that's again this year. Well, I
I want to save record predictions for the end of
the show. I have a whole thing for that. I think,
just as a preseason preview, take a look at this
and for example, I'm gonna say, I don't I think
Penn State is overrated And no, it's it's easy to
(09:43):
say when they're the number one team in the country
per Pick six. I mean, they literally can only be overrated,
but I.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Mean they they arguably they arguably have according to according
to the Pick six preview here in they're all Big
Ten offense.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
They have exactly spikes, they have the best quarterback and
Drew Aler running back in Nicholas Singleton backup running back
and kJ Allen ten in the Big Ten. Yes, yeah,
yeah yeah, and uh one of the fucking talk.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
They have an offensive lineman first team as well too,
so and they have a pair of other offensive lineman
third team as well, so they have a They have
a pretty good offense here. Now we've had some concerns
on their playmakers on the outside there, but running it
down your throat, I think Penn State can really get
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that done this year based on based on the personnel
that they have.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I hear that. Did they go out and get some
word of amazing wide receiver to play on the outside
in the transfer portal this year? They didn't. I'm not.
I'm not actually gonna like. I'm just they did not.
And also esquire excuse me that as Squire Spikes has
a very important and invalid question for you in in
(11:19):
the chat, and that question is who is their head coach?
Kyle I said, still, Franklin, hold on, I didn't just
say a wide receiver. I had qualifications on that. For
the record, Yes, Franklin is I don't. I don't trust
James Franklin m.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Game.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
I think I've mentioned this number of times. Like I
have a co worker, big Penn State fan. Him and
I talk a lot about college football. Respect for each other.
We have respect for each other's teams and all that
both hate. Both hate the team up north with the passion.
We get along even though he's a Penn State fan,
but we both do a like. Franklin's a pretty good recruiter,
(12:03):
but even as a Penn State fan, he's like, I
cannot trust him making cause, making the right cause when
when the game's on the line.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
James Franklin was the right guy for Penn State when
they hired him, and he's taken them as far as
James Franklin is capable of taking them. If they want
to take the next step, I don't think it'll be
with James Franklin. But that's a that's a whole other conversation.
I understand. So you said, like, oh, Pick six has
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this many people in the All Big ten team. Listen,
and I'm not just calling out. I have vast respect
for the Pick six preview guys. This is not a
shot at them at all. Again, vast respect for them
any preview, not just there's any preview. When they're putting
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together these lists, there go. They always favor the more
talented teams because you're not gonna put it doesn't matter
how good Julian saying is. You can't predict. You can't
simply say he's gonna be better than Drew Aller this year, which,
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by the way, is a possibility. I think that's especially
if you look at it from a statistical standpoint because
of the offenses they play in and who Julian Saying
has to throw to. Saying can very easily have a
much better stat line this year than Drew Aller. But
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they can't just come out and say a guy who's
never played a significant snap in college football is the
best quarterback in the Big Ten this year. That would
be a ridiculous thing to do. Point is is that
these rankings are always going to favor a team with
a lot of returning guys. Ohio State dominated like the
national position rankings last year because they had so many
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people coming back. It's just how these lists always end
up turning out. And I understand, like, if you look
at the last two national champions Asterix Asterix, Asterix for
the one for two years ago, who were they? They
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were Big Ten teams where a bunch of people who
weren't expected to return returned and therefore had incredibly talented,
incredibly experienced football teams with very experienced quarterbacks, and then
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they ran that to the national title. Game. It's very
easy to look at what Michigan did, asterix what Ohio
State did, and then apply that same formula to Penn State.
Thank you, Spikes. But the difference is Michigan either listen
(15:25):
one of two or maybe a combination of these two
things are true about Michigan. They had a good coach
and they cheated, So like good coaching, whether it be
legitimately good coaching or not, is a subject for a
different show. Ohio State, again, Ryan Day is an excellent coach.
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Does he have an issue with Michigan, Yes he does,
but outside of that is a really, really good coach
and as I talked about earlier in the show, has
a tremendous us had the best coordinator pair in the
country last year. And yes, you can be like, well,
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Jared Knowles is now at Penn State, sure is. Here's
the thing, though, when Ohio State brought in Knowles, their
defense was their weakness. Penn State's weakness is not their defense.
If Penn State had gone out and got whoever you
consider the equivalent to Knowles is if they had gotten
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Chip Kelly, I'd be much more concerned. Whoever You the listener,
pick your favorite offensive coordinator in college football. If they
hired that guy, I'd be more concerned. But their defense
was already fantastic. If they had stole Chip Kelly from US,
(16:57):
that would be more concerning than them stealing Knowles from US.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Defense outstanding. Yeah, their offense, as I mentioned earlier, they
need they need some help on the outsides as they've
historically have, they haven't really had a really good set
of wide receivers that you have to really respect compared
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to compared to other teams in the past too, So
I think that's another other weakness for Penn State here.
Still still really really good team here. I mean you
look at last year, like they did really well. They
they lost by seven points Ohio State, they lost by
a score to Oregon, they lost by a score.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
To Notre Dame.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
All really close losses last year, so really really close.
They really close to getting it done, so to speak
to And they get to return return a lot of
players on the offense get to get some more experience,
and their defense is still gonna be really solid as
well too, And as Jared mentioned, an elite defensive coordinator.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
To top that off too.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
So yeah, doesn't surprise me that Penn State is right
top three, top five, and a lot of people previews
look at us talking like sec about quality losses. I
mean one of those, one of those losses was the
Notre Dame. They're not in the big ten yet. All right,
(18:38):
any Kyle, we're already coming up in twenty minutes and
we probably need to move on. I said Penn State's overrated,
and then we've been on that ever since. I think
Ohio State's appropriately rated. I think they're a top five team.
I don't think they're a top two team. I believe
the top two teams are are Texas and Oregon. That
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that is my take. Those are the two teams who
I expect to see in the National Championship Game. I
think Oregon in Texas, So I think Oregon at seven
is underrated. USC and Michigan at fifteen and eighteen shut
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up and show me. I mean I get it, like
there's after you get past like twelve or thirteen teams,
it becomes a bit of a grab bag. I just
I don't I don't see the love for USC. I
think pick Sicks Previews has USC overrated here. I just
don't see the talent. Quite frankly, actually, let me let
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me pull that up real quick, because I don't think
we care to talk about We already talked about Indiana.
Nebraska will be I think Nebraska will take a good
step forward this year, and that's about it. Like I
don't so I think twenty six is probably good for them.
So Kyle up on the screen right now, pick six
previews All Americans. And these are just the big ten
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players from these all American teams. We're not going to
read out all of these because we just be sitting
here reading names for the next five minutes. But the
first team is Nicholas Singleton at Penn State, first team
running back. Before we go into that, let's go and
(20:27):
do that first ad break real yeah, no, no, no, you
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(20:49):
Americans spikes asks. These are regular season rankings or final rankings.
These are regular season rights kings. They did do a
full playoff prediction, but I think that's outside the scope
of the show and I don't want to give away
all of their stuff on on on here As a
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preseason ranking, No, I think three is appropriate. Three, four,
or five I think would be appropriate for Ohio State personally.
First team All American from the Big Ten. You have
Penn State with Jeremiah Or with Nicholas Singleton, Ohio State
with Jeremiah Smith, Max Claire, the Purdue transfer in Caleb Downs.
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Indiana gets a pair of defensive players on the board
with Michael Kamara and di'angelo Ponds. No huge surprises here.
That being said, find a USC player, I'll save you
some time. There's none. There plenty of Penn State players,
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plenty of Ohio State players. H Indiana with more than
their fair share. But again, I think there's a bit
of a veteran bias there. Indiana is a very old team,
but that's that's just how these rankings work. They're always
going to listen if you don't believe in the veteran
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bias and these things. How many Ohio State fans are
really excited for Tiger Cubola. With all due respect to Tagra,
these third team All American. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not gonna.
(22:50):
I'm not coming to explain that further out of respect
for Tiger Cibola, but no, no Sony Styles coming in
at in the second team for Ohio State. There Carnel
Tate third team, and yeah, I think that's all the
(23:16):
State players. Yeah, in the first through fourth team. But
you understand my point. I don't. I don't understand other
than the brand and a lot of people just thinking that,
(23:37):
you know, well, the coach was so good at Oklahoma,
Surely this is the year. Surely this is the year
he finally turns things around at USC. Excuse me, but
I just don't see it. All right, Kyle, look at
(24:00):
the it's a little bit easier to read, a little
bit easier to discuss. These are the Pixicks Previews position
group rankings. These are national rankings. But these are just
the Big ten teams. Once again, I have the Big
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ten unit ranks up on my show notes. So if
you're curious about just ask. But Ohio State coming in
at eight with an unproven quarterback, does that negate everything
I just said about veteran bias. I don't think so.
I just don't think there's that many good quarterbacks in
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college football this year. I think that there were a
lot of because of COVID and because of players coming
back because of NIL. I think that there was a
log jam of experienced quarterbacks in college football. And I
(25:07):
think we're starting to see the other end of that
now of their not being a lot of experienced guys
coming back, but Penn State coming in at number four.
I mean, these are one of the few position groups
where you can kind of just call it almost you
(25:29):
can almost call it just one guy. And Drew Aller
did make the fourth team All American for quarterbacks, so
that tracks at wide receiver Kyle wide receiver slash color
I should say color me surprised Penn State at thirteenth
(25:54):
if you're curious. Their Big Ten rankings, as you would
expect it to be, is fourth, and I I don't
see it. I don't see that for Penn State. Penn
State either and Ohio State are both represented in all
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five position group rankings. They're the only Big Ten teams
to make the top fifteen at each ranking, obviously because
they're the only two to place for quarterback. But I
don't I do not see I mean, they got good
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tight ends, so I guess that helps buoy it because
it is wide receiver slash tight end, so that helps.
And also when we say that Penn State doesn't have
any good wide receivers, we are judging that like an
elite level, you know, We're judging that like in a
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you know, top ten, top you know level when we
say no good wide receivers. So with the tight ends included,
and with the fact that we're harsh, we're judging them
very harshly because they have national championship expectations. So with
those expectations come you know, hard analysis. But still it
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feels wrong to have Penn State is having the thirteenth
best pass catching group in the country.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Yeah, I'm kind of cus I'm kind of curious on
what on their decision behind that here. I'm just I'm
still looking here.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
I mean, you want to if you want to read
the whole thing, I'm sure they explained that decision making process.
But that's not a thing we're gonna We're not gonna
give away all of pick six free these secrets on
you know, that would be rude of us. So if
you want to read their reasoning, you can go read
their reasoning and you know, get your Enn pick six
(28:06):
pre or maybe go listen to their podcast and I'm
sure they've explained it at some point, or like I said,
you can you can read the guide yourselves. I've read
their explanation. But again, I don't want to give I
don't want to give away all of their stuff on
the show. It's just rude. But yeah, I don't know.
Thirteenth for Penn State seems high. Also, I really like
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the quarterback organ As coming in had a year played
as a true freshman at UCLA under Chip Kelly. Because
remember they brought in the two. Of course, depending on
whose rankings you look at, they brought in the two
best transfer quarterbacks the year before last. Only one of
(28:54):
them played the other one played as a true freshman
at UCLA and or Chip Kelly. I like him more
than other people apparently like him. It's all I'm gonna
say there. Oregon does come in at the fifth best
fifth best quarterback grouping specifically in the Big Ten, which
(29:17):
puts them behind Penn State and Ohio State. Obviously Indiana.
Indiana got a really good transfer quarterback to come in,
so that makes sense. Illinois coming in at fourth I
(29:39):
just like Oregon more than the PI six preview guys,
and I don't like Penn State as much as the
Pick six review guys. I still think Penn State's a
playoff team. I still think Penn State just needs to
they could win the Big Ten. But they played both
Ohio State and Oregon. They do.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Yeah, that was something that we haven't really covered yet.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Was and we'll get there.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Looking at the looking at the schedules in here, Yeah, Oregon,
Oregon definitely not Oregon. Penn State definitely has uh some
tough has some tough games here. They thankfully the thankfully
the Oregon and State games are.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Went to home once away, not they're not both away.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
So sure, but it's so so doesn't so it doesn't
help them out there.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Penn State also comes in first in the country at
the defensive line for pixix previews, and I'll say right now,
I don't I don't disagree with that. Yeah, they got
they got some, they got some studs. Penn States. I
understand the rankings and I understand the hype. They have
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one of the best offense. They'll probably probably have one
of the best offensive lines in the country. They have
I would say the best. I mean in Pixick's preview
also does say. It says that they have the best
running back room in the country, and I don't disagree
with that whatsoever. I think they are far and away
the best running back group in the country. You're returning
a pair of one thousand yard running backs returning, right,
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which Ohio State did last year. They didn't both get
a thousand at Ohio State, but sure they both did
have a thousand yard seasons under their belt. So once again,
I understand why people are taking the formula that Michigan
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and Ohio State both you know, you can sort of
loosely say that if that's the new formula in the
NIL era and in the you know, much more free
wheeling transfer portal era, if you can look at Ohio
State and Michigan and say that's the new template. I
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understand how Penn State fits into that template. I get it,
and I could be wrong, But at the end of
the day, James Franklin, Yeah, yep, High of State fifth
(32:28):
best offensive line in the country, key transfers there. It's
hard to say how I don't know all the other
team's offensive lines well enough to say how good that
is or isn't, But I will say that it makes
me feel better about the offensive line.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Especially if you look at where they have ranked for
their all Big Ten offense, only one Ohost the offensive lineman,
rated in first, second or third team.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yeah, I don't think he's the best offensive lineman on
the on the offensive line. I don't think he's in
the top three best offensive lineman on the offensive line. Personally,
High State is returning linebackers, so they do have the
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number one in the Big Ten, number one linebacker group
in the Big Ten, I don't know. Like as far
as style, it's there, Yeah, that's the reason. And as
far as me not understanding the USC hype, again, if
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we just look at these position group rankings, they only
show up once. I don't understand how you're the fifteenth
best team in the country and you only in like
your your best position ranking is that you have the
twelfth best wide receiver slash tight end rooms in the country.
That does not hold a ton of water for me.
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In the Big Ten, they are eighth at quarterback, twelfth
at running back. They are third, and like I said,
wide receiver, tight ends sixth, offensive lines, sixth, defensive line
ninth linebackers, eleventh defensive backs. They're good at one position, mediocre,
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mediocre at everything else, At everything else except running back
and defensive back, where you're bad. I don't understand the
USC hype, and quite frankly, the coaching didn't leave Oklahoma.
(34:50):
The coach left Oklahoma, the results did not. Yeah, as
far as uh, you have anything else, Kyle, you want
to touch on for either sort of teams, overrated, underrated
position groups, all Americans, anything in those realms you want
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to keep talking about. No, No, I don't. I don't
think so.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
I think.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
I think I think we covered it pretty well here
last year. Or how State was to talk about all
the returning players this year it's Penn State. So we'll see,
we'll see how it plays out.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Yeah, I mean again, that's if that's if that's the template.
I I get it. I understand the hype, but I
just don't agree with it. You want to start looking
at the you want to start doing record predictions, Sure,
(35:57):
that's go ahead and do that. Let's do it at
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Speaker 4 (36:59):
Second break and get back to our predictions.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
I didn't, I didn't even I didn't even imply like
the football teams at all. Like it's literally just the
skyline plus the name of the city. All right, let's
go in alphabet Let's go in alphabetical order, Jared, Oh,
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I'm on their own screen.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
There we go.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Let's go in alphabetical order here. I know it screws
yours up here, but yeah, it sure does.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Illinois. Here Illinois looking at their schedule, I'm sorry, Illinois
first alphabetically they are yes, that that that that is
a weird fact. I'm sorry, that's just weird.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
So Illinois out of Illinois. So okay, I'm just not
going to mention out out of conference at all. We're
talking about just Big ten here, so big in the
Big Ten, Illinois has Indiana, USC, Purdue, House State, Washington, Rutgers, Maryland, Wisconsin, Nebraska.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Yeah. Uh, I think its overall, it's pretty pretty reasonable.
I think it's a pretty good schedule for Illinois. It's
a soft schedule of the looking at away games, away games,
it's Wisconsin, Washington, Purdue in Indiana.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Yes, this is a very favorable schedule for Illinois.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Of what would beat with the with pits. What Pick
six Previews calls the top five teams in the Big
Ten this year, Illinois only draws one of them. Yeah,
they have Illinois at eight and a half winds as
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their projector I'm sorry, no, they don't.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
Another website I was looking at here, I forget which
one it was that, but they predicted Illinois with an
eight and a half wind and Jared, do you have
that just in the Big Ten Big Ten, going eight and.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
One just in the Big I assume that's a national
number from whatever you're looking at. Yeah it is. Yeah,
that's Do they have some sort of who's who is there?
Out of conference?
Speaker 3 (39:41):
I can tell it.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
I can tell.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
What all schedule.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
I can tell you that I can recognize two names
they play at. They go to Durham to play Duke.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
Uh, they do have home to Western Michigan.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
I had to look up who the who week one
was and it is Western Illinois.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
So no, they aren't playing a good out of con that.
I'm don't don't real life gamble or do ain't you're
an adult. But eight and a half wins for the
season for Illinois?
Speaker 5 (40:28):
Who cause?
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Don't just leave it at that?
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Who?
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Okay? Because like I have them eight and one in conference,
that's with a lost to Ohio State, which I think
is totally fair and valid. I have them beating USC.
That could go either way. Maybe USC is a lot
better than I think that they are. But the other
teams aren't Indiana. Maybe it's it's in Bloomington, maybe maybe maybe,
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And then yeah, I'm sorry, we're not gonna start acting
like Bloomington is a tough place to go play. We
aren't gonna do that, I know, Jerry. Outside of that,
Washington might be better than we're expecting this year. Okay,
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but like, the four best teams you play in the
Big Ten are Ohio State, which is obviously tough, USC one, Indiana,
and Washington. Those are the those are the toughest games.
Those are the top four games on their entire schedule, because,
as Kyle pointed out, there's no I.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
Would say seven and two. I would say seven and
two they lose, they lose to USC or Indiana.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
I think that's one of those. I think that's valid.
I I didn't give myself the opportunity to be like, oh, well,
between these two games, they'll win one of them. Like
I I if you're looking at the screen, if you're
watching this on YouTube, I have the entire Big Ten
schedule predicted, and I didn't predict really any upsets. These
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are just like I think this team's better than that team,
and I think this team's better than that team. Like
I just went chalk with it.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
Let's move on to the next one. Here in alphabetical order.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Indiana the woosures.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Yes, I have them going six and three. I have
them losing to Penn State, Oregon, and Illinois, and as
we discussed that Illinois game as we sit here in July,
feels a bit like a toss up. Yeah, so that
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could go either way. Both Oregon.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
And Penn State are away for them. Okay, not like
home would have Not like home would have done much
of a difference.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
But I mean, I don't think Indiana's gonna be nearly
as good this year as they were last year. But
there's still there's still talent on that team, and that's
still a well coached team. This is the type of
team that could pull an upset if you don't show
up ready to play Indiana. Indiana can beat you, sure,
And Penn State and Oregon are gonna be facing teams
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all year. You know where where that falls in the
schedule for each of those teams matters too. If it's
sandwiched in between two other really tough games, then Indiana
turns Indiana is a very easy trap game, very easy
trap game.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
So all right, yeah, I think I think that's reasonable
with what you have, six and a three, six and three, Yeah,
I think that's I think that sounds right.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Okay, Iowa, I do not have i having a good
Big Ten season this year.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
No, just just looking at who they play here, Penn State, Oregon,
USC Indiana as you're like your top quarter of the
of the Big Ten there.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
And then Nebraska is a hard pool too. I mean again,
I think Nebraska is going to be a much better
team this year than they were last year. Yeah, in
their their true freshman quarterback is now all of a sudden,
the very experienced sophomore. You have a really good coach
there who is now in his third year's last week, yeah,
(44:44):
last last week thirty years regulars, Yeah, last week in
the season.
Speaker 4 (44:50):
Then they're heading on over to Nebraska as well. So yeah,
maybe maybe not maybe not a good.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
Poll for for Iowa.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
So you have Spikes points out three and six. Uh,
Spikes points out that they get Penn State and Oregon
at home if either of those games or night games,
don't play night game, don't play night games in Iowa City.
Speaker 4 (45:17):
Look at look at week eleven, Week eleven, let's just say,
let's just say Iowa and.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Oregon week eleven, if that's a night game. I was
coming off of bye week there, end of it. Tonight listen,
maybe just maybe we'll find out next week if that's
going to be a night game or not. Not in reality,
but just because Kyle Austin and I are going to
be bringing back the Big Ten, the Big Ten Game draft,
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you can look over that next week. All right, the Turks,
Maryland Terps coming up here. Not not not going to
be a good year. No outside of Boston.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
No.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
But by the way, I don't know if I actually
said it, I have I would go in three and
I would going three and six in in conference this year.
That that sounds right. I'm thinking over Wisconsin, Michigan State,
and Rutgers.
Speaker 4 (46:20):
I'm thinking four. I'm thinking four and five. Maybe they
pull one out in Nebraska, maybe to Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Look like you have in Minnesota. Minnesota is a jump game.
I acknowledge that Minnesota is a jump game that could
go either way.
Speaker 4 (46:35):
All right, Yeah, Maryland here, they don't have that tough
of a inconference schedule. Their toughest one, I'm just going
down the list here is home game against the team
up north Maryland. They do play Dodge, Illinois.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Maryland dodges Penn State, Ohio State, and Oregon. That's amazing
and it's damn. It's a damn shame they aren't good
enough to take advantage of it. Yeah, right, that's a
real because I'm just saying, look at, look at just
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just take a quick peek at Rutgers, who drew all
three of them on an eight an eight from Maryland. Yeah,
I have their only win against Sparty, who I think
is gonna.
Speaker 4 (47:31):
Be I have here, I have heard the over under
from Maryland wins total season totals four and a half
that I'm gonna and and yes, they played nobody in
there out of conference, they played nobody. Okay, that disturbing
trend in not just the Big Ten, but in the
Big Ten this year with there's a lot of bad
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bad out of conference this year. Yeah, but that's another discussion. Uh,
you you have Maryland one in eight that that sounds
about right, Yeah, that sounds about right. The team up North,
Team up North, Jared, who do they play? Of course
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they play Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
But as far as the well, I mean, they are
the fourth team again according to Pick six previews, they
are the fourth team in the Big Ten. So obviously
they don't play themselves, but they but they dodge the
other two. You know, I would say, Kyle, do you
agree with this statement? There are three powerhouse teams in
the Big Ten this year Penn State, Ohio State, and Oregon. YEP,
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quick and pro two tier list. Second tier would be
like Michigan, USC, maybe Indiana, maybe Nebraska, and I said Illino, Illinois.
I can you can add Illinois to that. But yeah,
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old say Michigan, us C L Washington. Though, Okay, we've
now made it too confusing. I can't do it in
my head, so let's go back to what we were doing.
So so the team team up North, I will say,
the bottom tier for me is just don't know, just
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m S U U C L A wrecords Northwest have Maryland,
you have them, you have them special hell.
Speaker 4 (49:34):
You have them going six and three losing to Ohio State,
USC and Nebraska. They do have home to Ohio State,
away to Nebraska and away to USC as well.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Yeah, that's they have they have. But again have them
going to Dodge, Penn State and Oregon, which is pretty
huge for them.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
M S.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
It was it was size the site I was looking for,
size where I pulled the the over hunters here.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
They have them.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Have the team up North going nine and a half. Okay,
so that's my prediction, plus the three non conference wins. Well,
nine and a half doesn't get you there because that
would just take you to a total of nine. And
and for the record, if you said to me, I
think they win either the USC or the Nebraska game,
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I wouldn't disagree with you. Like I don't think I
could disagree with that that they win one of those games. Again,
I I just predicting it. I had to pick win
or loss Northwestern and Maryland, which is, as Spikes points
out in the chat, which is just that's of the
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bottom what six teams they get four of them? Yeah,
that's that's that's I was about to say, Like I
was about to say, like the defense really good, there's
I think I think there will still be a really
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good defense.
Speaker 4 (51:20):
Offense is still there's a lot of unknowns offensively and
how how they're going to how they're going to be
and if they're going to be able to score enough
points to keep up with the the Ohio States, the Oregons,
the Penn States.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
Yeah they're not, but who I feel like Michigan has
at least one not great but pretty good out a
conference game. Yeah, I feel like they have a respect
conference game.
Speaker 3 (51:51):
It's it's it's Oklahoma. It's at Oklahoma.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
That's more than respectable. That's that's pretty good. I remember
they had the whole thing about like, oh, well, we're
not we're going to suspend. We're going to suspend the coach,
but but not for the We're not going to do it.
Speaker 4 (52:08):
For the Oklahoma game because I'm not gonna because he's
a he's a graduate from there, and we're not gonna.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
We're not going to do that to him. Yeah, Michigan
is not going to get a choice.
Speaker 3 (52:22):
And three.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
I think I think I think that's I think that's fine.
I think that's I think that's reasonable. Six and three
there not. But if if if the if the number,
if the Vegas number is actually nine and a half
wins over under, Oh my god, smash that under so hard.
All right, big brother Sparty, Big brother Sparty here.
Speaker 4 (52:45):
Uh, I think it's gonna be another rough terrible. I
think it's gonna be terrible, another another rough year.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
It's just for them here, it's just fast forward through Sparty.
We don't need to talk about Sparty. I have I
have them going one and eight with a win over
U C l A, and quite fright, they both suck.
So whatever. Next team, Uh, Jared's Golden Gophers are next.
Not my not my Golden Gophers. They have a they
(53:16):
have a pretty decent schedule. They do pull both Ohio
State and Oregon, which is tough.
Speaker 1 (53:20):
They do.
Speaker 2 (53:23):
They pull Nebraska, who I'm pretty sure they lose to.
But outside of that, they have a very bottom heavy schedule. Iowa, Wisconsin,
Michigan State, Rutgers, Northwestern, Perdue, like W after W after
(53:43):
W after W. So, while I don't like Minnesota that
much this year, don't be surprised they still have them
going plus five hundred in the conference.
Speaker 3 (53:57):
Don't be surprised.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
You could see the Golden Gopher going into Columbus Week
six undefeated, coming in at four. Oh, good for them.
Speaker 4 (54:07):
Next team the Cornhuskers, Nebraska.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
I'm nebraskaing eight and one in conference this year? Whoa
eight and one? Yeah? And I'll say this, and I'll
say this, it probably should be seven and two between
Michigan and USC. They probably lose one of those two games.
But again that's not how I did it. So if
(54:37):
you want to say, ah, Jared, I think it's more
like seven and two. I'm not going to argue with
you on that, but like, okay, so they get Penn State,
who they'll lose to. They have Michigan and USC, which
I gave them both wins over, but realistically they should
probably go five hundred in those two games. Then after
that their schedule is just dog shit Iowa and Minnesota,
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who I think they're both pretty easily better than Michigan State, UCLA,
Northwestern in Maryland. It's they have a very bottom heavy schedule.
They have one two pretty good games. Yeah, Sy has
them at seven and a half. And is Jared a secret?
(55:26):
Is Jared a secret? Rayla fan? I think he's insanely talented.
I think he looked great last year considering he was
a true freshman, and he's not a true freshman anymore.
I don't it's a well coached football team. Yes, we're
talking about Nebraska. I think they're a well coached football team.
I don't think they have a ton of talent, and
(55:47):
that's obviously going to hold them back against the better teams.
But I think they take a good step forward this year.
And again that eight and one conference prediction that largely
off the back of a pretty weak schedule. Sure, I
don't agree with eight and one. I'm thinking more of
like six and three. What about what I'm taking. I mean, again,
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the USC Michigan games. They could lose both of those games,
so it's not sure.
Speaker 4 (56:17):
All right, all right, we got to move a little
bit quicker here, I know, and we want to talk
about Cornhuskers a little bit more that they do play Cincinnati,
a little bit tougher opponent in Week one, But I
digress Northwestern. Uh, do you have Northwestern.
Speaker 2 (56:34):
Winning a game? I have them beating Purdue again, I think?
Do I think I have I have the bottom tier
of the Big Ten as Michigan State, UCLA, Wretors, Northwestern,
Maryland and Purdue. But realistically Purdue belongs in their own
little section of tier list. Now they're they're going to
(56:55):
be terrible this year.
Speaker 4 (56:57):
Mm hmm, yeah, that they are going to be. Uh,
I'm just looking at who they play.
Speaker 2 (57:05):
Austin says, I have Northwestern two and seven. I mean
they could beat U C, l A. Both of those
teams to be pretty bad this year, so that's that's fine.
Speaker 4 (57:14):
Penn State, Oregon and Michigan. So they play three of
the top four predicted in top four Big Ten teams. Tough,
that's tough for uh Northwestern there, Ohio State, all right,
Ohio State here, Jared, Penn State and and the team
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up north are the two teams that are Hi State
pulled here, and there's actually quite a bit of separation then.
Speaker 3 (57:46):
From there for the.
Speaker 2 (57:47):
Next opponents that they play. I'm sorry, what team are
we talking about? I was reading the chat the buck
Eyes the.
Speaker 4 (57:56):
Buck Eyes Jared mentioned about Penn State and the team
up North, and then there's a good separation of quality teams.
Speaker 2 (58:05):
Yeah, oh does dodge. I mean they obviously play Michigan,
who I don't think is the fourth best team in
the Big Ten this year. I don't think they're the
eighteenth best team in the country this year. But for
the sake of like what Pick six preview says, they
are the fourth best team in the Big Ten. Outside
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of that, Ohio State dodges like a lot of the
middle tier teams. They dodge USC, Indiana, and Nebraska. Who
I would say, like the middle tier again is like Michigan, USC, Indiana, Nebraska, Illinois.
Maybe throw Washington in there, but I don't think so.
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They dodge of the middle tier teams they only play
Illinois and Michigan. It gives them a lot of leeway
to kind of have a bad game and not lose
as a as a part of it. Of the bottom
tier teams, they get three of them, with UCLA, Rutgers
in Purdue. They might as well play a MAC team
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when playing Purdue, and not a good MAC team. I'm
not talking like one of the better MAC teams. I'm
talking like Idue would not win the MAC this year. No, no,
they would not, all right, but guys, you have them
going in undefeat nine and oh yeah. I mean the
(59:30):
Penn State game can go either way. But at the
end of the day, yo, Penn States, in Penn States,
in Columbus, they do go up to ann Arbor.
Speaker 3 (59:38):
At the end of the year.
Speaker 2 (59:40):
They do go to Champagne in week seven. There. Ah,
yep that I was just making sure that they didn't
have a a bye week before that because it's Penn
State and noonkick not officially, but you know, damn well.
Speaker 3 (59:59):
Yeah, I would agree.
Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
I think nine and oh obviously eight and one on
the table there, but yeah, I would say nine and
oh yeah Oregon Oregon next here.
Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
I have them going nine and oh in conference as well,
they play Penn State. They have to go to Happy Valley,
which is that's a it's a long trip. It's a
long trip into a place where there's not a good airport,
so there's a bus ride after that trip. I don't know.
(01:00:31):
They might be a lane land the players in into there.
Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
And mentioned before mentioned before week eleven, they do get
to they do. Actually both teams have a bye week.
They do go and play on the road.
Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
To Iowa in week eleven as well, So kind of
circle a little bit about Week eleven on the road
to Iowa with both teams being coming off a bye week,
just just saying. And Oregon does dodge Ohio State, Michigan,
and Nebraska, so I have them going undefeated in conference.
(01:01:13):
They don't get a lot of like the real bad
bottom feeders of the bottom tier teams, They only get
two of them, so that does make an upset a
little more possible for them. Sure, all right, Penn State,
Penn State.
Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
We mentioned already two losses just just now with Oregon
in Ohio State here.
Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
Ah, but I think they do.
Speaker 4 (01:01:36):
They do have quite a few of the lesser teams here.
I see on the schedule, I see Rutgers in Northwestern
and SPARTI u c l A.
Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
Yeah. I'll say that they are capable of winning every
single game. They're capable of being beating Ohio State. They're
capable of beating Oregon, more so Oregon than Ohio State
because it is a white out, is a very far
playing trip for the players. SI has a State, Oregon
(01:02:09):
and Penn State all over unders at ten and a half.
I've lost faith in and what they have to say,
what Sports Illustriate has to say. But that's that's fine.
The I know it's just a reference for reference. I
understand it.
Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
I agree.
Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
I think seven and two doesn't surprise me. If it's
eight and one or nine to zero, all right, seventy
two at.
Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
The worst, seven and two is the worst. I wouldn't
say the worst because James Franklin, where Indiana or Nebraska
fall in the schedule, If it's right before or right
after Ohio State or Oregon, those are those could be
trap games. Man. Penn State going ten and two and
(01:02:58):
losing exactly the two game you expect is the most
Penn State outcome. It feels inevitable saying that was exactly
last year for Penn State.
Speaker 4 (01:03:12):
All right, all right, moving on here, Perdue one of
the worst teams in the Power for teams.
Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Here, Yeah, they're bad. They lose every Big Ten game.
Next team fair.
Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
Uh, Rutgers, Rutgers here.
Speaker 5 (01:03:29):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
They have a tough they have a tough they have
a pretty tough schedule. But and that's it. Yeah, Rutgers
got a horrible schedule pool. They're the only thing home
in the Big Ten to draw all three Penn State,
Ohio State, and Oregon.
Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
Home to home to Oregon, home to Penn State. On
the road to Ohio State at the end of the year.
They play Ohio State and Penn State at the end.
Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Of the year. There they drew a ton of the
teams in the middle too. They don't get a lot
of the cupcakes. Only Maryland and Purdue. Is a terrible
schedule poll for w records. Siano media days would be
will be fun, terrible, terrible schedule pool for records. I
don't know who they pissed off and about what?
Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
Uh you see, LA is not much better. They play
some tough you see a play some tough teams to
Penn State.
Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
The Tier two.
Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
They play some Tier two like a lot a lot
of Tier two.
Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
Big ten teams as well. You see, LA doesn't have
it much better.
Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
I know they don't. It's not as top heavy as records,
but it's it's it's super fat. Maybe maybe one one
in there, maybe to like Maryland, may Greg shot. I
took a Fox execs wife to a Cold Play concert.
Oh that's funny. Who's next? Is that it? No? Well, no,
(01:05:02):
I said you see, I said U c l A.
And I don't think you heard anything. I said no,
I was too busy reading chat. I have U c
l A going oh to nine this year, mostly because
they don't play.
Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
Sure I think one, I think one game in there,
maybe Maryland. But yeah, they play some tough uh Tier
two Big ten teams. They don't have it much better
than Rutgers, USC USC next here, uh do not play
Pence State, do not play Penn State, Ohio State, but
(01:05:38):
does play Michigan and Oregon.
Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:05:45):
Yeah, And it's kind of all over the place then
with who they play then, So I.
Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
Mean, if you look what six teams in the big
in the Big ten this year, mm hmm, they only
play two of them. Yeah, so that's maybe six, six
and three, So six and three or five and four
in the Big Ten? Would I have six and three?
All right, only losses coming to Oregon, Nebraska, and Illinois,
(01:06:18):
And quite frankly, they could win against Nebraska, Illinois, they
have a USC is a pretty favorable schedule. Washington, Washington's
next up here. They they got tough. They do not
pay play Penn State, but they have Austate Oregon and
(01:06:40):
the team up north as well. Yeah, it's a tough
schedule pool at the top for them. Very thin in
the middle though.
Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
Very thin.
Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
Yeah, they play a lot of lower Yeah, they pull
Illinois is like their only like Tier two team. They
pull Wisconsin is like their own like Tier three ish team.
And then I could see them winn U, c l A, Rutgers, Maryland,
and Purdue. I could see them winning games. I jumped,
(01:07:13):
I jumped. You know, we we are talking about Washington. Yeah,
I mean I have them going five and four, even
though I don't like them that much.
Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
Yeah, very favorable schedule.
Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
Yeah they could depending upon what Illinois actually is this year,
because we're projecting Illinois be pretty good. But should we
h is a good question, Like they could very easily
go six and three this year and they're not that good. Yeah, Wisconsin, ouch,
they may have one of the toughest schedules. Oh my
(01:07:44):
good Wisconsin. Not as top heavy as Wreckers. But yeah,
my goodness, I think is the best way to say it.
They're gonna get Fickle fired. They well, first off, I
don't know if Fickle should still have a job bing
six is three. I think six is generous, very generous.
I see like one win, two wins. I have them
(01:08:07):
at one and eight in the Big Ten this year. Now, okay,
there are some very winnable games in here. They could
beat Minnesota, they could beat Iowa, they could beat Illinois.
They they're gonna have one of the tougher like this
is they have a I mean you could realistically, you know,
was Indiana flash in the Pan last year or not?
(01:08:29):
I don't know, I don't. I mean somewhere in between.
Like I think they're a bit of a flash in
the Pan but not. I don't think they're gonna be
terrible this year. Either.
Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
But like.
Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
This schedule, I mean, the only team from the bottom
tier that they play is Northwest or excuse me, Maryland.
They don't get Purdue, they don't get Northwestern, they don't
get Rutgers. They don't get UCLA, they don't get MSU.
That is harsh. Yeah, and Bama on the road, Spikes,
(01:09:02):
that's right. I forgot about that. They are playing Bama
on the road this year at a conference and then
the other games is Miami, Ohio and Middle Tennessee. If
they're playing Bama, Like, if.
Speaker 4 (01:09:16):
They are playing Bama that week three, Yeah, gosh, they
can go into their bat they can go in their
first four for first four weeks and they it may
be one in three, they may be sitting one and
three going into week six.
Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
This fick will make it to October. It's not like
Wisconsin to fire somebody in the middle of the season.
So yes, yes, I think they've done it. Maybe I
don't know, becaase that's back when they had Barry Alvarez,
(01:09:50):
who would just jump in and start coaching if need be,
which is I don't think would happen now. Yeah, going on, right,
all right.
Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
We are way over on top. I'm here, but but yeah,
I think we got looks like it looks like here
in Big ten play Big ten, play your top teams.
I'm just looking off what Jared has here Ohio State
nine and Oh Oregon nine and oh Nebraska eight and one,
Illinois eight and one, and Penn State at seven and two.
(01:10:24):
Are your top five teams there?
Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
Yeah, that's that's the prediction. And that's the end of
the show. Kyle, do you have anything in Kyle's corner?
Do I have anything Kywards corner? I mean we are
ten minutes over, I think is an acceptable answer to
that question. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
I always love the basketball.
Speaker 4 (01:10:50):
Tournament going on right now, the Carmen's Crew. I'm wearing
a Cruse shirt here. Carmen's Crew beginning their title defense here.
I did see that they did get the win over
their first opponent this weekend. Here's so the basketball tournament's
(01:11:11):
always always a fun thing to keep an eye on.
So you're into that going on right now?
Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
There you go, And is that the entire Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:11:23):
Yeah, we'll just end it there. Just we'll just end it.
Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
There, all right. We will just end it there. Any
song requests from anyone, look stuff up. I mean we
can absolutely can do that, Austin. So I guess we
I guess we just will. We can do playing with
(01:11:46):
the vapors today. So that's it. Tonight's ending music will
be playing the vapors. So with all that being said,
I'd like to encourage everyone to drink local beer, listen
to local music, and of course sports look podcasters. Once again,
he's on the ladies.
Speaker 6 (01:12:08):
She's a poison applen matter. Let's spink on the surface
and evil the name.
Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
Where was in the world?
Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
United and song.
Speaker 6 (01:12:29):
Sad Man speaks.
Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
The truth.
Speaker 5 (01:12:33):
What it's word sims everything. And you can can't go
(01:13:11):
blasting Gosa stop show like may God space got sca.
Speaker 7 (01:13:56):
Three crea world. When you say I'm getting believe it
shuts as something. So let.
Speaker 5 (01:14:23):
Back this not break your hand. It can't get close
to because it's not.
Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
Shot back a raycause suspense.
Speaker 5 (01:15:02):
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