November 19, 2025 • 46 mins
Missouri vs Oklahoma
Washington State vs James Madison
USC vs Oregon
Michigan vs Maryland
Pittsburgh vs Georgia Tech
BYU vs Cincinnati
Rutgers vs Ohio State
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Washington State vs James Madison
USC vs Oregon
Michigan vs Maryland
Pittsburgh vs Georgia Tech
BYU vs Cincinnati
Rutgers vs Ohio State
https://www.TheSloopCast.com
Artist: The Dopamines
Song: Groundhog Day Parade
Link: https://youtu.be/GNP_C1tSpV4
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Speaker 1 (00:37):
Anchor's upsells at fruit what a sweep cat say group
where Jared?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
How are you good?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Doing good?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Doing good? I? Uh, oh, yeah, it's a new tradition.
It's good tradition, Kylum scattered you drive today?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
All right, let's drive play to Chaos Week thirteen. Yet
this weekend, one more week for the regular season, Dared.
I know, I know there's a lot of people that
want to hear that, but here we go to play.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
The playoffs are long now hopefully well, I said regular season.
I know, but I'm just saying like it helps, it helps,
you know, We're we're one day closer to Michigan Week,
which I'm personally excited for. There's a lot of you
know what, but yeah, tell you what, this is our
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national episode. I think we have time to goof around
a little bit during know your enemy as Rutgers as Rutgers.
So I say, well, let's get uh, let's not miss around,
let's get right into the national stuff her thing.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Let's let's go ahead and start as always with our
tier list.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
All right, all right, all right, Uhra do you want
to stark you today?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Uh? Where do you want to start?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I want to start by taking my camera and throwing
it in in the river. But that's okay, it'll it'll there,
it goes high camera, all right. The uh I mean
we UH put a couple of teams into s tire
I think two weeks ago now, and one of those
teams lost.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, Alabama. Alabama lost to UH Oklahoma for the second
straight year. I mean, how many teams can really how
many teams can really say that they be they be
Alabama two straight years?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Oh wait a minute, when does the last time that happen?
Has Georgia done that? Has Georgia done that recently?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I mean, I would think I would think Georgia might
be the the right answer, but I'm not gonna have
time to look into that right now as we're looking
looking at our tier list right here though. Yep, Georgia
losing here. The funny thing is, even with two losses,
their only loss in the Alabama that is, yeah, they
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they win. I I think they might be in here
from what I from what I saw in terms of
who has the three way tie with Georgia, Ole, Miss
and Alabama. Technically Alabama has the tiebreaker. I did a
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search on this and it goes into the fourth tier
tie breaker Jared, which is the overall record of conference
opponents that they played, and I guess Alabama has that
tie breaker.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yeah, crazy, now it should be. I mean, they still
need to beat Auburn, and I'm not saying Auburn's good,
but Auburn has a tendency to play teams very closely,
and you know, the Ironbolls the Iron Bowl, so that
could go in a couple different actions. George is done
as far as the SEC is concerned. Ole Miss still
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has to play Mississippi State, and Mississippi State's pretty terrible,
So I would say of the three, obviously Georgia is safe.
Old Miss is safer than than Alabama. I again, I
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fully expect Alabama to beat Auburn, but you know it's
the Iron Bowl. Crazier stuff has happened.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think the only the only way
to Alabama gets in if Georgia loses. Ole Miss gets
in if both Alabama and Georgia loose. Actually no, no,
yeah no, actually, oh Miss can't get in. I don't
think they can get in either way either way. I'm
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thinking thinking too far ahead here. Let yeah, S Tier
Ohio State stays in S Tier Indiana stays in S tier.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Texas A and M.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I think stays in S tier as well. Now I'm
gonna I'm gonna go ahead and just say go out
of a limb here and say there's there's certain programs
out there that is saying, oh loo, look look how
great of a win this is for Texas A and M.
Like this is a this is a championship caliber team
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coming down during the thirty thirty to three, This is
when they want to come back out does yeah yeah,
but yet but yet in that same breath.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
They went down back to a six football team.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Look at Ohio State like they don't play anybody, even
though Ohio State like Kyle, everybody that they've played, but
Kyle the SEC. Anyway, I'll just say that Texas A, M.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
We made this joke. We made this joke last week
in regards to Indiana and how they played a very
competitive game and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I mean
it is what it is. I listen, there, there was
a point in time in which the SEC was legitimately
a much better football conference than the Big Ten, and
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a lot of people haven't gotten past those talking points
yet or that perception that these teams in the middle
of the SEC are like could when they're not, and
I think a lot of people are just failing to
catch up. As far as the new reality of college football, yep,
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like USC and Michigan and Iowa are just as good
as those middle rung SEC teams, which is to say
not very They're very flawed. You know, Ohio State has
a top three. Uh, the SEC has their top three,
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well four. You know, SEC is maybe a tad bit deeper,
but Ohio State's better than all of them. Indiana might
be just as good, if not better than Texas, A
and M So Ohio State is more top heavy than
the SEC. I think the SEC is a little bit
more well rounded.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Mhm.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I think there are more teams in the middle of
the SEC that are decent as opposed to the Big ten.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Sure, okay, Oregon stays in a tier, takes care of
business against Minnesota on Friday, Georgia stays, ole Miss stays.
I don't think ole Miss played right, Yeah, I don't
think ole Miss played Notre Dame. I think was on
a bye as well. They stay.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
They've destroyed pit Oh, that's right, they did destroy Pitt
they did. Yes, dominant dominant win Tulane. What did Tulane do? Actually,
I've already forgotten. They're still I mean, there's a four
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way tie at the top of the American if you
just want to talk about that for a moment between
them North Texas, East Carolina and Navy.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, to Tulane beat FAU thirty five to twenty four.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yeah, that's right, was bad. So you got a four
way tie at the top of the American, which currently
as I have to say, it'll be this way in
the end, but currently Tulane is at the bottom of
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those top four. Sure back and chain.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Georgia Tech had to come back to beat Boston College
a a one win one ten Boston College team.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yeah, it was not a good showing for Georgia Tech,
but they did win. They are much like the American
They are one of four teams atop the A C C.
They are currently at the top of the tiebreaker.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
I don't know how it would play out in the end,
but Virginia Pittsburgh SMU also all have one loss. Duke
did pick up their second loss, which is why I
have them hanging out to you know, potentially drop them
down to see but then we already talked about Alabama,
and then we get to Texas.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Texas, they drop my opinion all the way from A
to C, all the way from A to C. Now
there's a case, s Jarrett. There is a case if.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
If you really wanted to, I say, let's move him
down to B for for right now.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Hold on, hold on, hold hold on, hold on. There
is a case if you really want, if you really
want to talk about it, there is a case you
can make for putting Texas expectations from the start of
the year, we are putting them into M tier.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
We are hered to put them into M tier. Once
thirty five to ten, it was thirty five to three
and meaningful minutes like it was like, Hey, Kyle, Hey Kyle,
let's have this conversation again after the Texas A and
M game. How about that?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
All right?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
All right? So three teams in S tier Ouse Indiana,
Texas A and M. Yeah, Oregon, Georgia, Olmus, Notre Dame,
Texas Tech, Tulane, Georgia Tech, and Alabama in A tier.
Good with that there, but that leaves one team left. Yeah,
who would you say we need to go into that last? Yep?
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Are you good with Georgia Tech as the ACC representative,
because I don't want to put two ACC teams in.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
It's right now, it's it's anyone's it's game. Really, Georgia Tech, Virginia, Pittsburgh.
Pittsburgh just got smacked. I don't think SMU is all
that good.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
You could make the case for Virginia if you wanted
to have a Georgia Tech versus Virginia conversation, uh which
will end up being the championship game. Maybe. I mean
Pittsburgh haven't Who does Pittsburgh play this weekend? They have
a big matchup, right? Is it one slip picks?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Isn't it it's Georgia Tech.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Oh, there you go. That problem will solve itself. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
So so Pittsburgh stays in and be tier because they're
right on the bubble. They're they're right there to get
into the uh ACC championship game.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
So they barras. They got embarrassed by Notre Dame. But
it wasn't the conference game, so it doesn't They're the
only way pitt getting in is via the conference championship game.
Getting smacked around by Notre Dame doesn't actually affect their
their playoff chances correct, Yeah, Duke. However, picking up a
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second loss does basically move them down the seat. Here
second conference loss, I should state South Florida out. They
picked up another conference loss this weekend. They're not one
of the four teams atop the American Conference currently. Memphis
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also not among the four teams atop the American So
do you feel good dropping these three teams out?
Speaker 2 (12:45):
If that yep, I'm fine with that.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
All right. So now we have, well, Oklahoma picks up
a big win against Alabama, but they have two conference losses.
I think it just kind of depends does the SEC
place four, does the SEC place five?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
So I think right now there are currently I think
there's three teams to talk about that can be this
week put into a tier. Three teams Utah, No, vander
Built and B and B y U. I think those
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are your three teams that you can that you can
talk about putting in into the op into our A tier.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Those are the three you said, Vanderbilt, Oh wow, we.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Don't even have you. Oklahoma. Oklahoma goes in, Oklahoma goes in.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Okay, Well, hold on, we have Oklahoma theoretically, leave Texas.
Theoretically we're playing we're playing a game. USC has one loss,
Michigan has one loss. You said Virginia and you said Utah, Right,
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mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I think Oklahoma, even though they're not going to make
they're not going to be able to play in the
SEC Championship game, they have a real they have a
real legit shot of getting in. They like, look at
their their resume right now, Michigan keeps going up in
the in the rankings. That makes their early season when
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look better. Yeah, they had one one possession loss to
Ole Miss, and then the last two games here they
beat Tennessee and Alabama, both on the road. Very sure,
but that's still now very good looking on a rise
in me.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I don't. I don't Tennessee is awful. I don't care
that the AP insists on ranking them, or that the
College Football Playoff. I mean, if you're talking about what
the College FOOTBA Playoff might do. Sure, because everyone seems
to really like Tennessee despite the fact that they've literally
done nothing. Sure, but I'm like, I'm giving them zero credit,
Like we'll give them credit for beating Michigan. Now, Michigan's
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are very young. Michigan's a very young football team. And
they've gotten better as the year has gone. They were
kind of a dog shit team at the beginning of
the year. They're better now.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
We do win.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, we didn't need to pick one team though. My
vote is Oklahoma. Which one is your vote? Let's we
have We currently have three Big ten teams. We have
an independent team. We have three four for SEC, four
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SEC teams.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
One ACC and one Big twelve. Yeah, hold on, then
we have two lane. No, we have three SEC team.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
No.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I'm sorry for gosh, I just wasn't counting Texas A
and M. So in my mind I feel a little
more apt. What do I think or what does the
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committee think? What are we doing right now? This is
this is ours?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
This is ours?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I think it's USC.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
As we were recording this here, Jared, I just saw
USC is currently fifteenth in the CP in the CFP. Yeah,
the CFP.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Who they have is their top ten? Or is that
is that?
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Fully?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
There's still they're still They're still going on right now
as we are actively recording this up there we go
top ten Ohio State one, Indiana to Texas A and
M Georgia, Texas, tech Ole, Miss Oregon, Oklahoma, Notre Dame
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Alabama as your top ten, and then some notes here
b y U eleven, Utah twelve. Again, those are the
teams that I recommended Miami thirteen, Vanderbilt fourteen, USC fifteen,
Texas is down to seventeen, Michigan is eighteen, Virginia's nineteen,
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Tennessee is twenty, and Illinois is twenty one and two
Lane coming in at twenty four.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I USC. Thing is about USC is both good and bad,
is that they still get to play Notre Dame yet.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
So it's either a big resume item or a loss.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
All right, we get we can keep USC. My vote
is Oklahoma, but I'm gonna let you have it. You
have it, all right, all right. So that's our That
is our week thirteen tierless again, AUS State, Indiana, Texas
A and M and our S tier and then rounding
out our A tier no particular order Oregon, Georgia, Omis,
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Notre Dame, Texas Tech, Tulane, Georgia Tech, Alabama and Oklahoma.
And with that we'll go ahead and take.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Our well well before before that real quick see tier
teams that could be B tier teams. I'm just gonna
let you just you just give me a yes or no?
Do these CE tier teams belong in B tier? Miami
see James Madison B I agree, Navy, See, they are
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currently atop the American. They currently have the tiebreaker because
they're the only team to play seven conference games, That's why.
But they are six and one atop the American right now.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah, I guess put him in B then. Yeah, it
is now four way tie in that conference.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
And the only reason Navy is on top is because
they have an extra conference game right now. And by
the way, the Army Navy game is played after the
final college football playoff rankings.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Interesting, one of the one of these games cannot be
a conference game. They play at Memphis and then Army.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yeah, Army is not in the American Yes they are,
Yes they are. Is it non conference? Then I'd have
to look, are you? But because that that is played,
because I do believe that game is played after the
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the championship game it is, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah, so that might so if what you're saying is true,
And I'll be honest, the conference movement lately has me
a bit frazzled. They are, in fact in the American
You're correct? Yeah, so or if Navy, I guess that
they are.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
They are in the the the American Conference championship game.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Yeah, I guess Army Navy doesn't count as a conference
game because it takes place after the conference championship game,
which makes sense.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
So that is so weird. All right, all right, we
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Speaker 1 (22:02):
All right, let's do some sloop picks. Here's the standings.
We don't need to talk about.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Those, yeah, we do, go back, go back, Jared, listen,
I'm listening. I'm listening.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
I got nothing listen it. I don't want to talk
about it. All right, I don't want to talk about it,
all right, well.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Will I will talk about it.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Last week.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Cousin Jay was our guest picker, got four points, Jared
picking up the rear with two points, and for this
for two weeks, now yours truly when the sloop.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Picks for the week, and I know Austin before last.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I said for the second week this season.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Oh my bad?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Right, I am three games up on our guest pickers
and nine points Jared.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Up on you. Yeah, listen, I want to state for
the record. Sorry, okay, all right, let's get into the
swoop picks this week here flot picks, we unfortunately did
not get We're supposed to have Zach as a guest
picker this week. I don't know. He may have just
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gotten busy or something. So just Kyle and I this week,
which is fine. We move forward. What games up? What
do we got?
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
All right?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
First we got Oklahoma hosting Missouri noon kickoff, and the
Sooners are a nine and a half point favorite in
this one. Ah, why don't you go first?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Jared?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Who do you got in this one?
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Sarah's got something to prove Oklahoma, you know, even sitting
there at eight and two on the bubble to get
into the playoffs. Maybe on the right side of the bubble,
but that's yet to be seen for sure. I don't
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think who does Oklahoma play last week of the season?
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Hells you?
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:40):
So, I mean two tough ish games to finish the
year out to get a playoff birth they'll be playing motivated.
Nine and a half feels like a lot, But I
believe in them. I'm gonna take the sinners. Actually don't
believe in them. I just also don't believe and I
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just believe in Missouri even less. Quite frankly, Yeah, I'm
not a huge, a huge Oklahoma fan.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah, Okay, Oklahoma gonna have to play lights out that
they they're on that they're on that edge there to
get in. They win, They went out there in That's
that's how the team's going to look at it. And
I think Oklahoma is gonna come out and with a
win here. So I'll take the Sooners to cover the
nine and a half points. Ten and a half maybe not,
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but I'll I'll take Oklahoma here all right. Next up
here on the outside looking in, maybe maybe a chance here,
uh an odd odd pick. Probably the first time we've
ever had them in this sweet picks here. Maybe both actually.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Maybe both teams. James Madison, I can't be to have
picked Washington State before.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
We are in the second years. It has to have
come up at some point.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Maybe we're picking. We are picking the Dukes of James
Madison and Washington State. It is being played in Harrisonburg, Virginia,
where the Dukes are a thirteen and a half point favorite. Uh,
it is my pick here. I let me let me
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go back to my picks. Make sure I got it.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I do have the Dukes to win here. Washington States
just yeah, I don't win, trust them at all. And
they James Madison's just they have they have a lot,
a lot to prove here. They they're really wanting that
shot to get in there. And they they may they
may get in. We'll we'll we'll see how things We'll
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see you see how things play out here. You said win,
win and cover and cover and cover? Yes and comey?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
How many how many points am I down to you
right now?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Nine?
Speaker 1 (26:58):
I need to make up some games. Give me washing
in state?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Are are you? Are you? You haven't picked these games yet, Jared,
because beyond the curt behind the curtain here. I've already
made my picks in the CBS already there, they're they're
locked in.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
You see my picks not made yet. Uh, I need
to make I need to make up games. I'm nine
games behind you, and we have two full weeks and
then the abbreviated Championship week. I gotta make up games
on you.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Sure, all right, we're gonna move on, all right. Next
up here, three point thirty game pair of pack former
Pac twelve teams going at it Oregon and USC. The
Ducks at home is a nine and a half point
favorite in Jared, mhm, I think this is gonna be
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a close one. I will pick the Trojans to cover
in this game.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Kyle picking the Trojan Actually this was supposed to.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Be your pick first.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
But I'm not complaining. Chat, No, you're not.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
You're you're not.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Chat, you are Kyle, and I'm Jared, and I'm picking
Oregon because I need to make up some games on you.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
All right, all right, I'm gonna let you pick two
games in a row here, so that's not all right.
Next up here, we have Maryland hosting those cheaters up North.
Team Yeah, and Maryland is a thirteen and a half
point underdog. Four pm kickoff. You got in this one, Jared?
Speaker 1 (28:47):
It's your turn? Well, no, because I picked James Madison,
or excuse me you I did. I picked Oklahoma Missouri first,
then you picked James Madison Washington State first, and therefore
that accident that Maryland Michigan would be your turn because
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it goes back and forth like that. Okay, thirteen and
a half points too much? Give me the Turtles.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
I got there, cheaters up north covering. Yeah, they're just
they're just their defense just too good. I just don't
see Maryland scoring that many points.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Honestly, that's a fair assessment. That's probably why I'm done
with this all right.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Next up is Georgia Tech hosting Pittsburgh our game of
the week here, seven o'clock kickoff. A pretty much loser
is out. The loser of this game is out of
the playoff Frontier Georgia Tech. In this game, there's a
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two and a half point favorite at home.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
No, it is actually your turn now.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Okay, I have the Yellow Jackets to cover in this one. Here,
just a gut feeling, this is pretty much a pick them.
Who's going to win the game, So I'll pick Georgia Tech.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Did you have my little brother graduated from PITT mm hm, yeah,
I take PITT and and that's the only reason it's not.
It's not because I need to make opposite of you
to make up some games. That's that's that's not why.
All right, all right, and next up here we have
Cincinnati hosting b Why you Cincinnati still in it? I
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actually haven't looked is Cincinnati still I know that they've
lost a few games here. I mean there is a lot.
I mean b YU has one loss in the Big
twelve and then today has two. But there, but that's
the thing is just like if you.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Yeah, Utah has the tie breaker, Utah has that tie breaker.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah, that's that's that's that's the big.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
They need a Cincinnati needs a lot, Cincinnati needs a
lot of help. But b YU needs to win here
to stay alive in the conference. Here.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
It is pretty big if Cincinnati wins this game, because
one of the teams with one loss that needs to
lose is b YU.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Now, as you pointed out, however, that doesn't put Cincinnati
into replace BYU. That would put I think probably Utah
in sure Cincinnati doesn't play. From what I Cincinnati has
not played well away from home, but luckily for them,
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they aren't away from home. B Yu seems dominant one
game and bad the next. Not really a body clock
issue as this is being played at eight o'clock. So
I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead and take those mighty Mormons. Yep.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
I got the Cougars as well in this one. The Cougars.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Okay, we'll come in this next game in detail on
the Thursday episode called Know Your Enemy. So in one word,
Ohio State at home minus thirty and a half against Rutgers.
Who do you have?
Speaker 2 (32:40):
We got the team in scarlet? Who do you have? Jared?
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Who do you have?
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Jared?
Speaker 1 (32:49):
I picked first? Last time, I know, I said I
picked the team in scarlet. It's so funny because they
both wear scarlet. Who'd you pick.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Them? Buckeyes?
Speaker 1 (33:06):
That's me all right, all right?
Speaker 2 (33:10):
And as Jared is getting those last red x's on
the tuck board here, we're gonna go right into.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
I'm taking the Scarlet Knights because I think Ryan Day
is gonna try to end this game as quickly as
possible to move on the Michigan week and probably not
score a ton of points along the way. Heavy run game.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Okay, all right, last game here or not last game?
Last section of our episode. Here is our chaos. Chaos theory.
If you're new here and I'm not sure what our
chaos theory is. It is a game that we pick
where we think an unranked team meats a ranked team.
Our guest picker has only won one week so far
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this year, Jared, only one.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Week, and they're not gonna hear winning this week.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
They're not getting this week either.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Last week nobody won. Uh, nobody won the last two
weeks here. So I think I think we're due. We're
due for one here.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I already have I already have my pick entered into
focus shop. Okay, so we'll let you pick and then
I'll reveal my answer. Sure, so we are picking? Well
here here here's a question now, Jared, Well, I guess
you already pictures. I guess you're already pictures. It's going
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to be it's the AP. We've covered this the last
few episodes. It's the AP.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Gosh, Okay, so I've got.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Are you not just giving me crap for not having
my picks done before we started the show, and now
you're doing this.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
I am yes, you're right.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
It's almost like you're a hypocrite.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
You know, I'm even though I have them win, even
though I have them winning in the in the swoop
picks here, the point the points just is a lot.
It's too much to pass up.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
So I'll take I'll take the Bearcats, will take Cincinnati
as my chaos theory. And how many points is that worth?
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I gotta look because this has the updated Oh they're
they're They're ranked the same in the AP as well,
so eleven, So that is fifteen points.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I think that's a solid pick.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
I think some other ones that you you could pick here, Uh,
if you really wanted to, you could go with Maryland
upsetting the cheaters up North team.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Their offense is too bad.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
I think Kentucky over Vanderbilt could be an interesting one
as well.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Yeah, I think that's an interesting one. That was actually
the second one. That's the second one I would have picked.
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Another one. I'm not a fan of it, But you
could pick the Hokies over Miami. I don't. I don't
think that's a good one. Bad. Yeah, So who do
you got Jared.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Arkansas, Arkansas defeating Oklahoma. Arkansas has been playing teams close
like pull pull up Arkansas' schedule, and they they've i
think the last four games, they are on five games.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Eight game losing streak.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
They've yet to win a conference game. There two That's
that's how the Gamblers fallacy works. But look at all
their losses and tell me how many points they've lost
in conference. The largest loss that they had was against
Auburn thirty three to twenty four, nine point loss. All
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the other ones here within a school. Uh, they lost
by six to Ole miss Uh. They lost to Memphis too.
They got destroyed by Notre Dame, three point loss to Tennessee,
three point loss to Texas A and M three point
loss to Mississippi State, and then a one point loss
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to LSU. Oh but but wait a minute. You told
me they got destroyed by two non SEC teams.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Well, they got destroyed by Notre Dame, but they did
lose to Memphis.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
It's an American conference school. Losing to them is getting destroyed.
But Kyle, I was told that the SEC.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Where's it at? Where's it at?
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Make them beg for mercy, Kyle, make them beg for
mercy all right? Uh, yeah, no, I make them beg
for mercy.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
All right?
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Right?
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Cool?
Speaker 1 (38:03):
The yeah, so yeah, I'm thinking Arkansas they've they've played
every single SEC team close, only one of those losses
coming by more than a score, and even that was
only nine points. Sure, right, I think there do.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
All right? Awesome, I think I think that's it. I
think I think that is our chaos theory. If Jared,
you win, you would gain sixteen points too. Why down
just by three points?
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Then?
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Right? And we might not have an opportunity for the
championship games. There will be a lot of ranked on
ranked matchups. There might not Yeah, there might not be
a lot of opportunity to I. I have to hit this.
I think is the point?
Speaker 2 (38:56):
All right, all right? That is it? That is Oh
we have all right?
Speaker 1 (39:03):
M yeah, uh that's it. Uh, Kyle, what do you
have in Kyle's corner?
Speaker 2 (39:09):
The booms keep coming, Jared, the booms keep coming. We
had a lot since we last talked, three of them,
three of them two just two. We had a flip
from wake Forest. Uh, we had linebacker Braxton Rembert, and
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just earlier today we have a twenty twenty seven kid,
a offensive tackle Brody McNeil from Richmond, Virginia committing to
Ohio State too. Again that one the twenty seventh class.
Braxton is a twenty.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Six class too. A lot of flips from Ohio State. Uh,
these past to Ohio State the past ten days here
it it's been it's been been very, very good for
them Buckeyes. Absolutely, all right, big recruiting, big recruiting. Why
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I want to like, Hey, everyone on the Discord server
keeps saying like, hey, it feels like last year we
were getting guys flipped from US. Now we're getting a
bunch of guys slipped to US. One national championship will
do that for you, quite frankly. Two, I say it's
losing a lot of talent. They lost a lot of
talent last year. They're losing a lot of talent this year,
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which means there's room in the budget. Because that's how
allege what works now.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah, all right, one last quick thought, Jared, like two
sentences thoughts about Virginia Tech hiring James Franklin.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
I think it's a great hire. Virginia Tech is not
a a program that has national championship aspirations or at
the very least they are very far away from that goal.
And I think James Franklin's a very good program builder.
I think the people at Virginia Tech would love to
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go ten and two every year, and that's who he
and I think he can get them there. I legitimately
think he can get them there in a weekend ACC.
He can get them there because it will be weakened soon. Granted, right,
deal ends in twenty twenty seven, You're going to see
a flight from the ACC. At that point, is Virginia
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Tech left behind? Do they come along to maybe the
SEC that's they're kind of one of those fringe teams
that they maybe might they maybe might not. But yeah,
it's I regardless of any of that, I think he
has the capability of getting them to being a nine
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to ten win team. There's lots of great talent in that.
In that I mean, he's he's not even moving recruiting territory.
The Virginia Tech and in State College are not far
from one another, so he's recruiting in the same territory.
He should be fine. I think he'll be good. All Right, cool,
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all right, That's that's all I got here, Jared. All Right,
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Speaker 3 (42:32):
Yeah, I'm got yourff. I'm equipped to handle.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
This might be the moment that this Bobby becomes a letch.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
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Speaker 2 (42:44):
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shatters ever place here with a.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
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a couple of seconds back from big place. I stop
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ask me, I shot drown and I feel my face
up the regular love for I'm in a place I
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think I may have been there for I will go around,
my clothes on the line. Everybody's gone. The fuck is
get me take me out of this veteran. Somebody teach
me that take off your rouse. Some moments you work
on the brat on the s shut out. Some day
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used to move in for me. But look at what
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yet we'll make them make you. He shout out her
yet self cutting me because I can't believe they just
turn me.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
But she at the paint and change. She likes her
feet on the floor. Go out to a stranger.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
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Speaker 2 (44:04):
I got that?
Speaker 3 (44:06):
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make sure that's some tell you would be that funny?
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of that topple. It's not a top of my dog
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where Jared?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
How are you good?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Doing good?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Doing good? I? Uh, oh, yeah, it's a new tradition.
It's good tradition, Kylum scattered you drive today?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
All right, let's drive play to Chaos Week thirteen. Yet
this weekend, one more week for the regular season, Dared.
I know, I know there's a lot of people that
want to hear that, but here we go to play.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
The playoffs are long now hopefully well, I said regular season.
I know, but I'm just saying like it helps, it helps,
you know, We're we're one day closer to Michigan Week,
which I'm personally excited for. There's a lot of you
know what, but yeah, tell you what, this is our
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national episode. I think we have time to goof around
a little bit during know your enemy as Rutgers as Rutgers.
So I say, well, let's get uh, let's not miss around,
let's get right into the national stuff her thing.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Let's let's go ahead and start as always with our
tier list.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
All right, all right, all right, Uhra do you want
to stark you today?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Uh? Where do you want to start?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I want to start by taking my camera and throwing
it in in the river. But that's okay, it'll it'll there,
it goes high camera, all right. The uh I mean
we UH put a couple of teams into s tire
I think two weeks ago now, and one of those
teams lost.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, Alabama. Alabama lost to UH Oklahoma for the second
straight year. I mean, how many teams can really how
many teams can really say that they be they be
Alabama two straight years?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Oh wait a minute, when does the last time that happen?
Has Georgia done that? Has Georgia done that recently?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I mean, I would think I would think Georgia might
be the the right answer, but I'm not gonna have
time to look into that right now as we're looking
looking at our tier list right here though. Yep, Georgia
losing here. The funny thing is, even with two losses,
their only loss in the Alabama that is, yeah, they
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they win. I I think they might be in here
from what I from what I saw in terms of
who has the three way tie with Georgia, Ole, Miss
and Alabama. Technically Alabama has the tiebreaker. I did a
(03:30):
search on this and it goes into the fourth tier
tie breaker Jared, which is the overall record of conference
opponents that they played, and I guess Alabama has that
tie breaker.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yeah, crazy, now it should be. I mean, they still
need to beat Auburn, and I'm not saying Auburn's good,
but Auburn has a tendency to play teams very closely,
and you know, the Ironbolls the Iron Bowl, so that
could go in a couple different actions. George is done
as far as the SEC is concerned. Ole Miss still
(04:06):
has to play Mississippi State, and Mississippi State's pretty terrible,
So I would say of the three, obviously Georgia is safe.
Old Miss is safer than than Alabama. I again, I
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fully expect Alabama to beat Auburn, but you know it's
the Iron Bowl. Crazier stuff has happened.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think the only the only way
to Alabama gets in if Georgia loses. Ole Miss gets
in if both Alabama and Georgia loose. Actually no, no,
yeah no, actually, oh Miss can't get in. I don't
think they can get in either way either way. I'm
(04:59):
thinking thinking too far ahead here. Let yeah, S Tier
Ohio State stays in S Tier Indiana stays in S tier.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Texas A and M.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I think stays in S tier as well. Now I'm
gonna I'm gonna go ahead and just say go out
of a limb here and say there's there's certain programs
out there that is saying, oh loo, look look how
great of a win this is for Texas A and M.
Like this is a this is a championship caliber team
(05:32):
coming down during the thirty thirty to three, This is
when they want to come back out does yeah yeah,
but yet but yet in that same breath.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
They went down back to a six football team.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Look at Ohio State like they don't play anybody, even
though Ohio State like Kyle, everybody that they've played, but
Kyle the SEC. Anyway, I'll just say that Texas A, M.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
We made this joke. We made this joke last week
in regards to Indiana and how they played a very
competitive game and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I mean
it is what it is. I listen, there, there was
a point in time in which the SEC was legitimately
a much better football conference than the Big Ten, and
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a lot of people haven't gotten past those talking points
yet or that perception that these teams in the middle
of the SEC are like could when they're not, and
I think a lot of people are just failing to
catch up. As far as the new reality of college football, yep,
(06:45):
like USC and Michigan and Iowa are just as good
as those middle rung SEC teams, which is to say
not very They're very flawed. You know, Ohio State has
a top three. Uh, the SEC has their top three,
(07:11):
well four. You know, SEC is maybe a tad bit deeper,
but Ohio State's better than all of them. Indiana might
be just as good, if not better than Texas, A
and M So Ohio State is more top heavy than
the SEC. I think the SEC is a little bit
more well rounded.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Mhm.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I think there are more teams in the middle of
the SEC that are decent as opposed to the Big ten.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Sure, okay, Oregon stays in a tier, takes care of
business against Minnesota on Friday, Georgia stays, ole Miss stays.
I don't think ole Miss played right, Yeah, I don't
think ole Miss played Notre Dame. I think was on
a bye as well. They stay.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
They've destroyed pit Oh, that's right, they did destroy Pitt
they did. Yes, dominant dominant win Tulane. What did Tulane do? Actually,
I've already forgotten. They're still I mean, there's a four
(08:21):
way tie at the top of the American if you
just want to talk about that for a moment between
them North Texas, East Carolina and Navy.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, to Tulane beat FAU thirty five to twenty four.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yeah, that's right, was bad. So you got a four
way tie at the top of the American, which currently
as I have to say, it'll be this way in
the end, but currently Tulane is at the bottom of
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those top four. Sure back and chain.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Georgia Tech had to come back to beat Boston College
a a one win one ten Boston College team.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yeah, it was not a good showing for Georgia Tech,
but they did win. They are much like the American
They are one of four teams atop the A C C.
They are currently at the top of the tiebreaker.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
I don't know how it would play out in the end,
but Virginia Pittsburgh SMU also all have one loss. Duke
did pick up their second loss, which is why I
have them hanging out to you know, potentially drop them
down to see but then we already talked about Alabama,
and then we get to Texas.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Texas, they drop my opinion all the way from A
to C, all the way from A to C. Now
there's a case, s Jarrett. There is a case if.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
If you really wanted to, I say, let's move him
down to B for for right now.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Hold on, hold on, hold hold on, hold on. There
is a case if you really want, if you really
want to talk about it, there is a case you
can make for putting Texas expectations from the start of
the year, we are putting them into M tier.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
We are hered to put them into M tier. Once
thirty five to ten, it was thirty five to three
and meaningful minutes like it was like, Hey, Kyle, Hey Kyle,
let's have this conversation again after the Texas A and
M game. How about that?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
All right?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
All right? So three teams in S tier Ouse Indiana,
Texas A and M. Yeah, Oregon, Georgia, Olmus, Notre Dame,
Texas Tech, Tulane, Georgia Tech, and Alabama in A tier.
Good with that there, but that leaves one team left. Yeah,
who would you say we need to go into that last? Yep?
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Are you good with Georgia Tech as the ACC representative,
because I don't want to put two ACC teams in.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
It's right now, it's it's anyone's it's game. Really, Georgia Tech, Virginia, Pittsburgh.
Pittsburgh just got smacked. I don't think SMU is all
that good.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
You could make the case for Virginia if you wanted
to have a Georgia Tech versus Virginia conversation, uh which
will end up being the championship game. Maybe. I mean
Pittsburgh haven't Who does Pittsburgh play this weekend? They have
a big matchup, right? Is it one slip picks?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Isn't it it's Georgia Tech.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Oh, there you go. That problem will solve itself. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
So so Pittsburgh stays in and be tier because they're
right on the bubble. They're they're right there to get
into the uh ACC championship game.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
So they barras. They got embarrassed by Notre Dame. But
it wasn't the conference game, so it doesn't They're the
only way pitt getting in is via the conference championship game.
Getting smacked around by Notre Dame doesn't actually affect their
their playoff chances correct, Yeah, Duke. However, picking up a
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second loss does basically move them down the seat. Here
second conference loss, I should state South Florida out. They
picked up another conference loss this weekend. They're not one
of the four teams atop the American Conference currently. Memphis
(12:39):
also not among the four teams atop the American So
do you feel good dropping these three teams out?
Speaker 2 (12:45):
If that yep, I'm fine with that.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
All right. So now we have, well, Oklahoma picks up
a big win against Alabama, but they have two conference losses.
I think it just kind of depends does the SEC
place four, does the SEC place five?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
So I think right now there are currently I think
there's three teams to talk about that can be this
week put into a tier. Three teams Utah, No, vander
Built and B and B y U. I think those
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are your three teams that you can that you can
talk about putting in into the op into our A tier.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Those are the three you said, Vanderbilt, Oh wow, we.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Don't even have you. Oklahoma. Oklahoma goes in, Oklahoma goes in.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Okay, Well, hold on, we have Oklahoma theoretically, leave Texas.
Theoretically we're playing we're playing a game. USC has one loss,
Michigan has one loss. You said Virginia and you said Utah, Right,
(14:19):
mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I think Oklahoma, even though they're not going to make
they're not going to be able to play in the
SEC Championship game, they have a real they have a
real legit shot of getting in. They like, look at
their their resume right now, Michigan keeps going up in
the in the rankings. That makes their early season when
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look better. Yeah, they had one one possession loss to
Ole Miss, and then the last two games here they
beat Tennessee and Alabama, both on the road. Very sure,
but that's still now very good looking on a rise
in me.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I don't. I don't Tennessee is awful. I don't care
that the AP insists on ranking them, or that the
College Football Playoff. I mean, if you're talking about what
the College FOOTBA Playoff might do. Sure, because everyone seems
to really like Tennessee despite the fact that they've literally
done nothing. Sure, but I'm like, I'm giving them zero credit,
Like we'll give them credit for beating Michigan. Now, Michigan's
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are very young. Michigan's a very young football team. And
they've gotten better as the year has gone. They were
kind of a dog shit team at the beginning of
the year. They're better now.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
We do win.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, we didn't need to pick one team though. My
vote is Oklahoma. Which one is your vote? Let's we
have We currently have three Big ten teams. We have
an independent team. We have three four for SEC, four
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SEC teams.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
One ACC and one Big twelve. Yeah, hold on, then
we have two lane. No, we have three SEC team.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
No.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I'm sorry for gosh, I just wasn't counting Texas A
and M. So in my mind I feel a little
more apt. What do I think or what does the
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committee think? What are we doing right now? This is
this is ours?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
This is ours?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I think it's USC.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
As we were recording this here, Jared, I just saw
USC is currently fifteenth in the CP in the CFP. Yeah,
the CFP.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Who they have is their top ten? Or is that
is that?
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Fully?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
There's still they're still They're still going on right now
as we are actively recording this up there we go
top ten Ohio State one, Indiana to Texas A and
M Georgia, Texas, tech Ole, Miss Oregon, Oklahoma, Notre Dame
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Alabama as your top ten, and then some notes here
b y U eleven, Utah twelve. Again, those are the
teams that I recommended Miami thirteen, Vanderbilt fourteen, USC fifteen,
Texas is down to seventeen, Michigan is eighteen, Virginia's nineteen,
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Tennessee is twenty, and Illinois is twenty one and two
Lane coming in at twenty four.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I USC. Thing is about USC is both good and bad,
is that they still get to play Notre Dame yet.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
So it's either a big resume item or a loss.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
All right, we get we can keep USC. My vote
is Oklahoma, but I'm gonna let you have it. You
have it, all right, all right. So that's our That
is our week thirteen tierless again, AUS State, Indiana, Texas
A and M and our S tier and then rounding
out our A tier no particular order Oregon, Georgia, Omis,
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Notre Dame, Texas Tech, Tulane, Georgia Tech, Alabama and Oklahoma.
And with that we'll go ahead and take.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Our well well before before that real quick see tier
teams that could be B tier teams. I'm just gonna
let you just you just give me a yes or no?
Do these CE tier teams belong in B tier? Miami
see James Madison B I agree, Navy, See, they are
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currently atop the American. They currently have the tiebreaker because
they're the only team to play seven conference games, That's why.
But they are six and one atop the American right now.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah, I guess put him in B then. Yeah, it
is now four way tie in that conference.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
And the only reason Navy is on top is because
they have an extra conference game right now. And by
the way, the Army Navy game is played after the
final college football playoff rankings.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Interesting, one of the one of these games cannot be
a conference game. They play at Memphis and then Army.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yeah, Army is not in the American Yes they are,
Yes they are. Is it non conference? Then I'd have
to look, are you? But because that that is played,
because I do believe that game is played after the
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the championship game it is, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah, so that might so if what you're saying is true,
And I'll be honest, the conference movement lately has me
a bit frazzled. They are, in fact in the American
You're correct? Yeah, so or if Navy, I guess that
they are.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
They are in the the the American Conference championship game.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Yeah, I guess Army Navy doesn't count as a conference
game because it takes place after the conference championship game,
which makes sense.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
So that is so weird. All right, all right, we
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Speaker 1 (22:02):
All right, let's do some sloop picks. Here's the standings.
We don't need to talk about.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Those, yeah, we do, go back, go back, Jared, listen,
I'm listening. I'm listening.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
I got nothing listen it. I don't want to talk
about it. All right, I don't want to talk about it,
all right, well.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Will I will talk about it.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Last week.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Cousin Jay was our guest picker, got four points, Jared
picking up the rear with two points, and for this
for two weeks, now yours truly when the sloop.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Picks for the week, and I know Austin before last.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I said for the second week this season.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Oh my bad?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Right, I am three games up on our guest pickers
and nine points Jared.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Up on you. Yeah, listen, I want to state for
the record. Sorry, okay, all right, let's get into the
swoop picks this week here flot picks, we unfortunately did
not get We're supposed to have Zach as a guest
picker this week. I don't know. He may have just
(23:36):
gotten busy or something. So just Kyle and I this week,
which is fine. We move forward. What games up? What
do we got?
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
All right?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
First we got Oklahoma hosting Missouri noon kickoff, and the
Sooners are a nine and a half point favorite in
this one. Ah, why don't you go first?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Jared?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Who do you got in this one?
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Sarah's got something to prove Oklahoma, you know, even sitting
there at eight and two on the bubble to get
into the playoffs. Maybe on the right side of the bubble,
but that's yet to be seen for sure. I don't
(24:30):
think who does Oklahoma play last week of the season?
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Hells you?
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:40):
So, I mean two tough ish games to finish the
year out to get a playoff birth they'll be playing motivated.
Nine and a half feels like a lot, But I
believe in them. I'm gonna take the sinners. Actually don't
believe in them. I just also don't believe and I
(25:00):
just believe in Missouri even less. Quite frankly, Yeah, I'm
not a huge, a huge Oklahoma fan.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah, Okay, Oklahoma gonna have to play lights out that
they they're on that they're on that edge there to
get in. They win, They went out there in That's
that's how the team's going to look at it. And
I think Oklahoma is gonna come out and with a
win here. So I'll take the Sooners to cover the
nine and a half points. Ten and a half maybe not,
(25:29):
but I'll I'll take Oklahoma here all right. Next up
here on the outside looking in, maybe maybe a chance here,
uh an odd odd pick. Probably the first time we've
ever had them in this sweet picks here. Maybe both actually.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Maybe both teams. James Madison, I can't be to have
picked Washington State before.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
We are in the second years. It has to have
come up at some point.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Maybe we're picking. We are picking the Dukes of James
Madison and Washington State. It is being played in Harrisonburg, Virginia,
where the Dukes are a thirteen and a half point favorite. Uh,
it is my pick here. I let me let me
(26:22):
go back to my picks. Make sure I got it.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I do have the Dukes to win here. Washington States
just yeah, I don't win, trust them at all. And
they James Madison's just they have they have a lot,
a lot to prove here. They they're really wanting that
shot to get in there. And they they may they
may get in. We'll we'll we'll see how things We'll
(26:45):
see you see how things play out here. You said win,
win and cover and cover and cover? Yes and comey?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
How many how many points am I down to you
right now?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Nine?
Speaker 1 (26:58):
I need to make up some games. Give me washing
in state?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Are are you? Are you? You haven't picked these games yet, Jared,
because beyond the curt behind the curtain here. I've already
made my picks in the CBS already there, they're they're
locked in.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
You see my picks not made yet. Uh, I need
to make I need to make up games. I'm nine
games behind you, and we have two full weeks and
then the abbreviated Championship week. I gotta make up games
on you.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Sure, all right, we're gonna move on, all right. Next
up here, three point thirty game pair of pack former
Pac twelve teams going at it Oregon and USC. The
Ducks at home is a nine and a half point
favorite in Jared, mhm, I think this is gonna be
(27:55):
a close one. I will pick the Trojans to cover
in this game.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Kyle picking the Trojan Actually this was supposed to.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Be your pick first.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
But I'm not complaining. Chat, No, you're not.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
You're you're not.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Chat, you are Kyle, and I'm Jared, and I'm picking
Oregon because I need to make up some games on you.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
All right, all right, I'm gonna let you pick two
games in a row here, so that's not all right.
Next up here, we have Maryland hosting those cheaters up North.
Team Yeah, and Maryland is a thirteen and a half
point underdog. Four pm kickoff. You got in this one, Jared?
Speaker 1 (28:47):
It's your turn? Well, no, because I picked James Madison,
or excuse me you I did. I picked Oklahoma Missouri first,
then you picked James Madison Washington State first, and therefore
that accident that Maryland Michigan would be your turn because
(29:09):
it goes back and forth like that. Okay, thirteen and
a half points too much? Give me the Turtles.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
I got there, cheaters up north covering. Yeah, they're just
they're just their defense just too good. I just don't
see Maryland scoring that many points.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Honestly, that's a fair assessment. That's probably why I'm done
with this all right.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Next up is Georgia Tech hosting Pittsburgh our game of
the week here, seven o'clock kickoff. A pretty much loser
is out. The loser of this game is out of
the playoff Frontier Georgia Tech. In this game, there's a
(30:02):
two and a half point favorite at home.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
No, it is actually your turn now.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Okay, I have the Yellow Jackets to cover in this one. Here,
just a gut feeling, this is pretty much a pick them.
Who's going to win the game, So I'll pick Georgia Tech.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Did you have my little brother graduated from PITT mm hm, yeah,
I take PITT and and that's the only reason it's not.
It's not because I need to make opposite of you
to make up some games. That's that's that's not why.
All right, all right, and next up here we have
Cincinnati hosting b Why you Cincinnati still in it? I
(30:53):
actually haven't looked is Cincinnati still I know that they've
lost a few games here. I mean there is a lot.
I mean b YU has one loss in the Big
twelve and then today has two. But there, but that's
the thing is just like if you.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Yeah, Utah has the tie breaker, Utah has that tie breaker.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah, that's that's that's that's the big.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
They need a Cincinnati needs a lot, Cincinnati needs a
lot of help. But b YU needs to win here
to stay alive in the conference. Here.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
It is pretty big if Cincinnati wins this game, because
one of the teams with one loss that needs to
lose is b YU.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Now, as you pointed out, however, that doesn't put Cincinnati
into replace BYU. That would put I think probably Utah
in sure Cincinnati doesn't play. From what I Cincinnati has
not played well away from home, but luckily for them,
(31:57):
they aren't away from home. B Yu seems dominant one
game and bad the next. Not really a body clock
issue as this is being played at eight o'clock. So
I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead and take those mighty Mormons. Yep.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
I got the Cougars as well in this one. The Cougars.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Okay, we'll come in this next game in detail on
the Thursday episode called Know Your Enemy. So in one word,
Ohio State at home minus thirty and a half against Rutgers.
Who do you have?
Speaker 2 (32:40):
We got the team in scarlet? Who do you have? Jared?
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Who do you have?
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Jared?
Speaker 1 (32:49):
I picked first? Last time, I know, I said I
picked the team in scarlet. It's so funny because they
both wear scarlet. Who'd you pick.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Them? Buckeyes?
Speaker 1 (33:06):
That's me all right, all right?
Speaker 2 (33:10):
And as Jared is getting those last red x's on
the tuck board here, we're gonna go right into.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
I'm taking the Scarlet Knights because I think Ryan Day
is gonna try to end this game as quickly as
possible to move on the Michigan week and probably not
score a ton of points along the way. Heavy run game.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Okay, all right, last game here or not last game?
Last section of our episode. Here is our chaos. Chaos theory.
If you're new here and I'm not sure what our
chaos theory is. It is a game that we pick
where we think an unranked team meats a ranked team.
Our guest picker has only won one week so far
(33:53):
this year, Jared, only one.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Week, and they're not gonna hear winning this week.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
They're not getting this week either.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Last week nobody won. Uh, nobody won the last two
weeks here. So I think I think we're due. We're
due for one here.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I already have I already have my pick entered into
focus shop. Okay, so we'll let you pick and then
I'll reveal my answer. Sure, so we are picking? Well
here here here's a question now, Jared, Well, I guess
you already pictures. I guess you're already pictures. It's going
(34:29):
to be it's the AP. We've covered this the last
few episodes. It's the AP.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Gosh, Okay, so I've got.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Are you not just giving me crap for not having
my picks done before we started the show, and now
you're doing this.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
I am yes, you're right.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
It's almost like you're a hypocrite.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
You know, I'm even though I have them win, even
though I have them winning in the in the swoop
picks here, the point the points just is a lot.
It's too much to pass up.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
So I'll take I'll take the Bearcats, will take Cincinnati
as my chaos theory. And how many points is that worth?
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I gotta look because this has the updated Oh they're
they're They're ranked the same in the AP as well,
so eleven, So that is fifteen points.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I think that's a solid pick.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
I think some other ones that you you could pick here, Uh,
if you really wanted to, you could go with Maryland
upsetting the cheaters up North team.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Their offense is too bad.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
I think Kentucky over Vanderbilt could be an interesting one
as well.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Yeah, I think that's an interesting one. That was actually
the second one. That's the second one I would have picked.
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Another one. I'm not a fan of it, But you
could pick the Hokies over Miami. I don't. I don't
think that's a good one. Bad. Yeah, So who do
you got Jared.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Arkansas, Arkansas defeating Oklahoma. Arkansas has been playing teams close
like pull pull up Arkansas' schedule, and they they've i
think the last four games, they are on five games.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Eight game losing streak.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
They've yet to win a conference game. There two That's
that's how the Gamblers fallacy works. But look at all
their losses and tell me how many points they've lost
in conference. The largest loss that they had was against
Auburn thirty three to twenty four, nine point loss. All
(36:59):
the other ones here within a school. Uh, they lost
by six to Ole miss Uh. They lost to Memphis too.
They got destroyed by Notre Dame, three point loss to Tennessee,
three point loss to Texas A and M three point
loss to Mississippi State, and then a one point loss
(37:20):
to LSU. Oh but but wait a minute. You told
me they got destroyed by two non SEC teams.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Well, they got destroyed by Notre Dame, but they did
lose to Memphis.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
It's an American conference school. Losing to them is getting destroyed.
But Kyle, I was told that the SEC.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Where's it at? Where's it at?
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Make them beg for mercy, Kyle, make them beg for
mercy all right? Uh, yeah, no, I make them beg
for mercy.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
All right?
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Right?
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Cool?
Speaker 1 (38:03):
The yeah, so yeah, I'm thinking Arkansas they've they've played
every single SEC team close, only one of those losses
coming by more than a score, and even that was
only nine points. Sure, right, I think there do.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
All right? Awesome, I think I think that's it. I
think I think that is our chaos theory. If Jared,
you win, you would gain sixteen points too. Why down
just by three points?
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Then?
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Right? And we might not have an opportunity for the
championship games. There will be a lot of ranked on
ranked matchups. There might not Yeah, there might not be
a lot of opportunity to I. I have to hit this.
I think is the point?
Speaker 2 (38:56):
All right, all right? That is it? That is Oh
we have all right?
Speaker 1 (39:03):
M yeah, uh that's it. Uh, Kyle, what do you
have in Kyle's corner?
Speaker 2 (39:09):
The booms keep coming, Jared, the booms keep coming. We
had a lot since we last talked, three of them,
three of them two just two. We had a flip
from wake Forest. Uh, we had linebacker Braxton Rembert, and
(39:30):
just earlier today we have a twenty twenty seven kid,
a offensive tackle Brody McNeil from Richmond, Virginia committing to
Ohio State too. Again that one the twenty seventh class.
Braxton is a twenty.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Six class too. A lot of flips from Ohio State. Uh,
these past to Ohio State the past ten days here
it it's been it's been been very, very good for
them Buckeyes. Absolutely, all right, big recruiting, big recruiting. Why
(40:11):
I want to like, Hey, everyone on the Discord server
keeps saying like, hey, it feels like last year we
were getting guys flipped from US. Now we're getting a
bunch of guys slipped to US. One national championship will
do that for you, quite frankly. Two, I say it's
losing a lot of talent. They lost a lot of
talent last year. They're losing a lot of talent this year,
(40:32):
which means there's room in the budget. Because that's how
allege what works now.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah, all right, one last quick thought, Jared, like two
sentences thoughts about Virginia Tech hiring James Franklin.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
I think it's a great hire. Virginia Tech is not
a a program that has national championship aspirations or at
the very least they are very far away from that goal.
And I think James Franklin's a very good program builder.
I think the people at Virginia Tech would love to
(41:06):
go ten and two every year, and that's who he
and I think he can get them there. I legitimately
think he can get them there in a weekend ACC.
He can get them there because it will be weakened soon. Granted, right,
deal ends in twenty twenty seven, You're going to see
a flight from the ACC. At that point, is Virginia
(41:26):
Tech left behind? Do they come along to maybe the
SEC that's they're kind of one of those fringe teams
that they maybe might they maybe might not. But yeah,
it's I regardless of any of that, I think he
has the capability of getting them to being a nine
(41:51):
to ten win team. There's lots of great talent in that.
In that I mean, he's he's not even moving recruiting territory.
The Virginia Tech and in State College are not far
from one another, so he's recruiting in the same territory.
He should be fine. I think he'll be good. All Right, cool,
(42:12):
all right, That's that's all I got here, Jared. All Right,
tonight's ending music just like on Monday, will be brought
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Speaker 3 (42:32):
Yeah, I'm got yourff. I'm equipped to handle.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
This might be the moment that this Bobby becomes a letch.
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shatters ever place here with a.
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a couple of seconds back from big place. I stop
him here a bucket, a bucking bucket lap He straight
ask me, I shot drown and I feel my face
up the regular love for I'm in a place I
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think I may have been there for I will go around,
my clothes on the line. Everybody's gone. The fuck is
get me take me out of this veteran. Somebody teach
me that take off your rouse. Some moments you work
on the brat on the s shut out. Some day
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yet we'll make them make you. He shout out her
yet self cutting me because I can't believe they just
turn me.
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But she at the paint and change. She likes her
feet on the floor. Go out to a stranger.
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