October 22, 2025 • 60 mins
Massive tier list update in a super sized Collegiate Chaos.
Then it's time for the SlooPicks!
Oklahoma v Ole Miss
Memphis v South Florida
Iowa State v BYU
Vanderbilt v Missouri
Cincinnati v Baylor
LSU v Texas A&M
Arizona State v Houston
https://www.TheSloopCast.com
Artist: Soul Monsters
Song: Salt
Link: https://youtu.be/6cg6Qr4I4z0
Then it's time for the SlooPicks!
Oklahoma v Ole Miss
Memphis v South Florida
Iowa State v BYU
Vanderbilt v Missouri
Cincinnati v Baylor
LSU v Texas A&M
Arizona State v Houston
https://www.TheSloopCast.com
Artist: Soul Monsters
Song: Salt
Link: https://youtu.be/6cg6Qr4I4z0
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Speaker 1 (00:37):
Anchors upsells it full well, I'm gonna sleep gasagg intrinicle. Know, Jared,
how are you being good? Doing good new tradition, good traditions.
I feel like that was a good one. I feel
like that was a good one. I'll wait until the
(00:57):
podcast comes out and they'll hear it.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Night.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Kyle.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
When was the last time you actually listen back to
your own podcast?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I do from time to time. Oh god, I haven't
done it in years. I have not done it in years.
Let's let's get right into it. So the Year of
the Chaos continues. Yeah, and so it's a more shake
(01:26):
up in our tier list. So let's get right into
it because we've got a lot of movement in my eyes.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah yeah, there's no Ohio State game this weekend, so
this will probably be a little bit of a instead
of like a thirty forty minute episode of collegiate chaos.
We might do, we might do, Kyle, might we get
close to an hour? Maybe, well, we'll see Le's shoot
for fifty.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
We'll shoot for fifty. Let's shoot for fifty. All right,
all right, let's right, let's get into it. S tier mind, Jared,
I'm just gonna start us off in my mind. Yeah,
two teams just two times. I'se State in Indiana.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Can I interest you in an Alabama big win over
the weekend? They do have the we will, we will.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm gonna bring this phrase back.
I'm gonna bring this phrase back from from twenty fourteen.
They have the albatross of a very retrospectively weird loss
(02:31):
to Florida State. Sure, but since then have been a
very solid football team. They have the candor built. They
have a win over Georgia. They if you look at
their wins, you can stack their wins against any other
(02:51):
team's wins.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
In the country. Sure. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
They did, however, lose the Florida State. Yeah, and worda
State has badly. Yes, Uh, Spike's good point.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
It wasn't close, Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't a seven point,
it wasn't a three point. It was multiple scores, multiple scores.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, albatross, And where's Florida State right now? That's why
I said retrospectively weird. It was a lot easier to
believe that game when we thought Florida State was like
Capital B back. But Florida State has since proven that
they are their capital have not back.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
They've lost four in a row. Yeah, right in the cusp,
I say, but you're saying no about Alabama. I'm saying
no right now. But okay, you could convince me they
could go in the S tier. But I have on
my on my sheet here that they are right there
(03:57):
in a tier almost almost an S. So I hand
convince you. You gotta give you gotta convince me.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
All right, all right, all right, you know I'm gonna try.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I'm gonna try. You got seconds, you got sixty seconds,
I've got the time on. Hold on, I didn't I
didn't know. Just let me just let me do this.
Just let me do this.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Let me get their schedule in front of me. All right,
I got sixty seconds on the clock.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
One minute, and you go. Yes.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
They had a really weird loss to Florida State. It
was week one, as proven in twenty fourteen with Ohio State.
Sometimes you lose a game early as you're kind of
just figuring your shit out. I think Alabama was just
figuring their shit out. Since then, they defeated a top
flight Georgia team, a very like top of the middle
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rung Vanderbilt team, a Missouri team and a Tennessee team
who were both ranked at the time. Is there he
is still ranked, granted but probably over ranked, and Tennessee
was ranked eleventh at the time granted over ranked. Tennessee
also still ranked. I believe over ranked, but still of
like a top twenty five team. There's a team here. Yes, yes,
(05:18):
SEC teams are always over ranked.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Cool, it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Illinois was also over ranked when Ohio State beat them.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
These things happen.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Point is is that I will stack there Georgia, Vanderbilt, Missouri,
Tennessee wins against any other team's four wins.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
All right, So my counter to that there you mentioned about, oh, well,
they they've played, they've played teams and they and rightfully
solo they played some tough opponents recently here. But you
compared it, compared it to the to the Ohio State
(05:59):
of fourteen Houstin dropped all the way to twenty two,
they dropped, Bamba drop they dropped fourteen, They dropped fourteen spots. Okay,
when they when they lost to Virginia Tech, how many
BAMA dropped. Bama dropped thirteen spots. So very similar, very similar.
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It took Ohio State all year, okay, all year to
get to get close to the to the top four,
close to it. When they started playing some tougher opponents
coming into Look look November here, they were still let
me let me just how many risks fashions day checking
(06:45):
right now? They were still fourteenth. They were still fourteenth
going into November, and then teams teams started to lose.
High State kept winning and winning big and finally making
their way back at the end of the season. I
feel Alabama is on that same track, playing some suver
opponents now getting back up into into our A tier.
(07:08):
So I think I think as the season goes along here,
if they continue doing well and winning games, they go
into S tier. How many, going the same analogy as
Ohio State in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
How many ranked teams did Ohio State beat that entire
season a regular season.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
In the regular season? I see three?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Okay, So while I'll acknowledge that Missouri and Tennessee are
pretty over ranked, we can what if we combine that
into just one You keep one of them, throw the
other one away. That's three ranked teams that they've defeated. Okay,
So if we're talking about after if we're talking about
jewels on the crown.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
It is comparable. When I have State won their third
ranked game, they went to six they were at sixth ranked.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Okay, did that season have the same amount of insane
chaos that this season has had that has cleared off
a lot of the top teams from the top of
the board. The answer is no, we haven't seen it.
We have not seen a chaotic season like this since
two thousand and seven.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Sure, so, I'm sorry you didn't convince me, So I'm
gonna I don't think.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Listen, you started that with I think you could convince me,
but I think that was a lie. I don't think
I could.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
You didn't convince me when you threw in there that
Oh it's the it's they're like the state twenty fourteen State.
It took at all season, all season, but the number
of ranked teams of the playoffs. In fact, Alabama has
won more.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Okay, because we can we can argue that maybe Missouri
or Tennessee shouldn't be ranked, but I think Vanderbilt and
Georgia are both undoubtedly ranked teams.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
All Right, they win this weekend, Alabama can go into
s Tire.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
South Carolina is gonna push it over the top for you.
South Carolina sucks.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I know they do, all right.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Whatever is my only problem with this whole time, Kyle,
is that you said I could convince you, but I
don't think I could have.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
But you didn't. That's not what I said. Just we're
just repeating ourselves. We've got to move on here, So
I don't think. I don't think that was a winnable
war for me. Okay, A tier A te here, Oregon
stays in a tier. In my mind, I think Texas
A and M stays in a tier meaning that they've
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have one win against Notre Dame and they barely this
last weekend, they barely beat Arkansas Grant on the road
and they were able to come back and went win
it at the end there. Actually no, I'm sorry, Arkansas
tried to come back and wear it there. They held,
(10:08):
they held on, but it's still still win to win,
I guess. But they didn't look, they didn't do the
reasons me that that they blong in an s t
here they help met Kyle. Okay, So so Texas and
M stays where they're at. Georgia Tech stays under, stays
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undefeated with their win against Duke and Durham this last weekend.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
We looked pretty prophetic moving us F up and moving
Memphis down ahead of last week's games. So I think
us F can remain in a Yep, Miami, We just
a Miami. We just moved down to a Georgia. I'm
not gonna make the case to move I'd pick Bam
(10:58):
if I can't convince you to move Bama up, I'm
not going to try and convince you to move Georgia up.
Also because I don't think Georgia belongs up there now,
Also because I don't think they belong to there. But again,
if I couldn't convince you to move Bama up, I
don't think convince you gonna be Georgia. Jeff is never
going to happen.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yep, Georgia doesn't. Also I don't want to. Okay. So
with that that is two four, six, eight nine. We
got three spots left. Well maybe well currently we currently
have twelve because in a tier currently we have Ole Miss,
LSU in Texas Tech Sure, all three of whom lost
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this weekend.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
This last weekend.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Okay, so Ole Miss with their first loss, yeah against
Georgia A one possession game thirty five forty three eight
point loss in Athens in Athens. Yes, I still, I
still think they're a pretty good team. I do believe
(12:06):
they should stay in a tier. They're absolutely right there.
There's two four six one, two, three, four, five six
seven eight teams in the SEC with one or no
losses in conference.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I was about to say in conference. Yeah, uh, yep,
I think they stay. LSU you have on here. Yeah,
LSU picked up yet another loss. Yep, they lost. They
lost on the road in Nashville against Vanderbilt. Yep. That's
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two losses now in the SEC. That's that's going to
make it damn near impossible for them to get back in.
So right now they're on the outside. They're on the
outside looking in.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
AP dropped them to twenty.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
But I I I say, if I can do a
fog horn leg horn for a second, we move them
down here into what I affectionately refer to as C plus. Sure,
I'm fine, I'm fine with that. That's all the way.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
That's all the way from A to C. And the
reason being what you already mentioned. It's real crowd at
the top of the SEC right now, it is you're right,
and and they're on the outside of that.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Okay, all right, I got I got some movements here.
So Texas Tech with their loss to Arizona Arizona State,
Arizona State, Arizona State Big to me, I think they're
to me. I think they go and B tier because
Big Toy is only getting one team in. They're only
getting one, so they go down to B tier. Uh,
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they get there, they get their chance. Here was it?
In about three weeks they do host a B YU
they get their chance. So so we.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Need to replace the times you have here with a
Big twelve team probably m h.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
So you have Louisville Notre Dame still kind of on here.
So two four, six, eight ten with two spots left.
We do have USF so we do have our group
of five still.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Right, but we also just removed the Big twelve.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
We did remove the Big twelve, So I'm glad you
brought that up. I on my list. Here you go
with one of the undefeated, because I think there is
a second yep, there's a second undefeated in conference as well. Yes,
internaty yep. But I'm going to go with B yuh
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getting in in the uh an A tier as the
winner of the Big Twelve. So my I my mind,
I think it BYU in eight tier moving up to
eight tier.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
And we'll say Sincinnty's playing Baylor this weekend and Iowa
States playing BYU this weekend.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
So we could have some pretty.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Big Big Twelve shakeups when maybe turned to this tier
list in a in a week. So I think, did you,
I mean, I'm just gonna ask the question. I'm gonna
leave the decision up to you. Did you take a
good hearted look at Arizona State? They are the ones
that defeated Texas Tech and they also play Houston this weekend.
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They did get moved up just barely into the APU.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Sure, but I think right now, as we're recording this
here in October, middle to end of October, they're in
B tier. They absolutely can get up to A tier, absolutely,
but as we're speaking right now, I cannot put them
into into a B tier or into eight tier, So
they stay in B tier. Can I ask, why do
(16:04):
you just like Cincinnati more? Do you? I just see
only one team from the Big twelve now we're talking about,
and that's b YU currently b YU in over any
other Big Twelve team b YU or Cincinnati b y
(16:24):
U B y U in undefeated undefeated b YU. Miss
I missed you wanted Cincinnati in No, No, Cincinnati is
the other undefeated team in the Big twelve that you
could talk about. But I'm going with the undefeated b
YU team right now the victory over Utah.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Okay, so you basically narrowed it down to the two
undefeateds in the conference because they're both undefeated in conference.
Cincinnati lost to Nebraska week one, wasn't it week one
or week two?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:02):
But but but in conference Cincinnati is undefeated. Yep, I
I understand your logic there, can I ask you who
is by u's best win?
Speaker 1 (17:17):
That would be Utah? Fair enough?
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Yeah, and they play Iowa State this weekend, which will
be a tough game.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah. So Louisville and Notre Dame. Yeah, uh, I'll just
get right to the point. I have Notre Dame as
the last team in a tier.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Here.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Here we go. We we talked about that after after
their second loss, Like, oh boy, we're going to talk
about end of the year here. I mean, we're in
the middle of the season, but we're.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Starting the amount of chaos that has taken place. Has
been a season's worth chaos alrighty absolutely, yes.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Which is my bamma belongs in st here. They've looked great,
they've looked right now. They had the three point loss
to Miami, a top ten team, a one point loss
to Texas Sam a top ten team. They've scored a
ton of points against Purdue. I mean they let up
(18:19):
a lot too, but they scored a bunch against Purdue,
destroyed Arkansas, beat up Boise State, beat up and c
Stay and took care of their rival of USC just
this last weekend. They're hitting on all cylinders. And we
talked about it, or at least I mentioned it. They
need to They need to win the voters' hearts right now,
(18:41):
and by looking great and just just scoring as many
points they need, they need style points, and they're doing
it with the help of team Chaos. But with all
those together, I think this week they're right there at
the end of eighteen here they get that they get
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that last spot. So and I have like the first
four out if you want to say, and B tier,
I think it. I think Texas Tech, Cincinnati, Vanderbilt, Oklahoma,
Missouri I think are kind of like right at that
edge there. If one of the teams in their conference loses,
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they could go up into into that position. Then I think,
I think Vanderbilt. I think Vanderbilt. Ye, so you have
Vanderbilt and see I think Vanderbilt goes up to be tier.
I agree. Do you still have Oklahoma? I don't be Oklahoma.
It's the old Yeah, I'm not I'm not from Yeah,
(19:46):
I didn't. I was not looking for that, uh that
logo of Oklahoma Texas Tech. I think you have there
in Missouri.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Missouri, I had as a comp versation as to whether
to drop them out of beat here.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
I take it you are not in favor of that
one loss in one loss, and that was in conference,
a three point loss to Alabama. I agree, they're in
the hunt.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
They lost this weekend, so so I put them there
for conversation.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I agree with you. I don't believe they deserve to
be dropped down. No, Missouri didn't lose this weekend. They
won their game. They only have one loss to Alabama.
Why did I have them down there? I'm not sure either.
They didn't look that great against Auburn. Yeah, but no
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one looks take care of Auburn in overtime. No one
looks good against Auburn does look good against the refs.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
God, not that I'm saying that for this game. I
think Kyle was saying that for the Georgia game. But
burn are experts at losing one score games. But different
conversation for a different time, Kyle. I think we can
finish up the rest of b tire by seeing who
deserves to be kicked out and who maybe gets deserved
(21:13):
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Speaker 3 (22:50):
Kyle losing this weekend, USC, Nebraska, Tennessee, and Memphis. We
previously had them in B tier. Who deserves to remain
in B tier? Who deserves to be kicked out?
Speaker 1 (23:13):
I gotta look at I gotta look at USC because
I didn't have USC anywhere, because I think, yeah, they
do have just one loss in conference, and that is
too Illinois.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Yeah that was a if I remember correctly, that was
a bad body clock game.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yeah, gosh, they're right, they're right there on that cusp
of B and C. The way I'm looking at it here,
one loss in the Big ten one two, three, four, five,
six nine teams as well in the Big ten with
one loss or one or no losses as well. Yeah,
(23:54):
it's it's a crowded it's a crowded field.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
You see LA is in the mix, don't you don't
it's not it's not.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
All right, Gosh, I don't know. I'm I'm actually torn
about that. I say right now they're in the C plus.
I would say C plus right now, knowing knowing how
this year is gone. They may be moved up to
be tier next week. Who knows, all right, and Nebraska,
(24:26):
Nebraska is down. No, there's no I don't see them happen. Yeah,
they're just in sea period they're in, especially with their
uh they're lost to Jared's Golden Gophers there and it
wasn't even a competition. No, it wasn't even competition there. Uh, Tennessee,
(24:51):
I think Tennessee's also did they have just the Oh yeah,
that's who was it? They got to They got two losses.
They got two losses in the Yeah, both in conference.
They lost to Georgia and Alabama. Good losses. There's no
(25:12):
such thing. But they did get they did get. They
didn't get smoked by Alabama, though.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
There's such thing as a good loss. There are less
bad losses. There's such thing as a good loss.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
And yeah they got well, okay, and then you have Yeah,
so Tennessee and C tier. They can move up to
B tier, maybe a tier if if it as the
season goes along. But right now, see tier, I'm fine
with that, and gosh to to, I think right now,
just keep them in. See. Two losses is so hard,
(25:43):
so hard to agree to get out of right now
at at this stage of the of the season. I'm
gonna Memphis, they play South Florida. That's us. That's our
slip pick. That's one of our slip picks. Later in
the show, I say, keep women be tier.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
At least for now, pending the result of their game
against South Florida this weekend.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
That's my take, gotcha, Yeah, I mean yeah, I guess
they're they're at the edge. They're at the edge of
B tier. Yeah, I agree, they're they're on the lower
edge of B tire.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
The the the American is not it's not nine teams
deep the way the Big Ten and the SEC are. Yeah,
so coming back from one loss isn't going to be
super difficult. Navy is currently undefeated at the top of
the American USF. Their only loss is out of conference,
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so they're undefeated in the conference.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Some other teams that some other teams to take note
of as well. You mentioned Navy, but Tulane is another
to keep an eye out for.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
And Houston and uh Tulane is in B tier and
I have Houston, Kyle, as you transition us down into
Sea Tier. I do have some teams in C plus
for conversation to move up into B tier.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Among them is Houston. Who is Who's you know who
else should be in C plus because I don't see
them in there. We talked about them last year. Yeah,
team a team in the in the sun Belt here, Okay,
(27:50):
the Duke the Duke's of James Madison.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
I have there in c uh, the the sun I
don't have a sun Belt, I call them. Okay, I
guess I'll just go out.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Here for I think it's worth keeping an eye just
I don't think they're anywhere close to BET here, but
definitely keep an eye out.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Listen, I'm I'm all for including teams in C plus.
Teams currently in C plus, Kyle, and you tell me
if you want any of them to move up to
be We're gonna rapid fire this. Just stop me if
you think they should. If you don't think they should
move up, just let me keep going. If you think
I should move them up, stop me. Michigan, Minnesota, Northwestern, Yes,
(28:34):
I'm being serious, Iowa s m U, Duke Houston, TCU Boise,
San Diego, James Madison.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Yeah, I think I think TCU stays in se I
think I think to me that that's the easiest one
that I think they would stay and see Tier right now.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
All right, I only tell me who you think should
move up, and you didn't stop me. I told you
to interrupt me if I hit on one.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I know I'm trying to think them and you just
rapid firing them.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Oho, Kyle, you can if you go back and listen
to this, you can hear me pause where I expected
you to interrupt me. I gave a nice long pause
after some of those teams, so you can tell which
ones I was at least considering as spikes has my back.
(29:38):
There were a lot of pauses, So there were a
couple where I was giving you opportunity to interrupt.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Me because I thought that team was at least worthy
of consideration. You tell me, Jared, you tell me which
ones you think.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
I think SMU is worthy of at least consideration. That's
the only one I would really I'm not even gonna pound.
I don't think any of them need to move up
this week.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
For the record, Yeah, yes, well that's something you had,
the big had the big win against Clemson.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Well pause, that's I'm sorry what you call a win
over Clemson a big win in the year of Our
Lord twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Sure, sure, okay, they don't have any good wins.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Okay, fair, listen, no good wins.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I'm not saying any.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Of these teams should be in seat here. I just
thought a couple of them you expected maybe at least
something from you.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
But that's okay. I think I think all of them
that you mentioned are definitely once that can go into
BE tier if there's if when there are more chaos here,
because a lot of these teams have only one loss
in conference or maybe none, like like SMU, that definitely
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could jump up to B tier.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
And then let me ask you this question, Kyle, how
many teams do you think the big ten places in
the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Currently?
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Like?
Speaker 1 (31:22):
How currently? Right now? It's three. I looking at who
else from the Big Ten would go in here, I'm
looking at team I'm looking at I'm looking at teams
with uh with one or fewer losses in conference. Ucla no, Minnesota, no, Michigan,
(31:44):
maybe Iowa no, USC currently no, but keep an eye
on them. Northwestern No. So it's Oregon, Ohio State in Indiana.
So right now it's three. So i'd say the over
unders three point five.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
All right, I'm just saying I find it hard to
believe there won't be a fourth Big Ten team, although
I completely agree with you that who that team is
is currently a bit of a mystery.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah Goo, good jump pen State. Good jump Penn State,
because it would have been easily four, easily four because
I think the.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
I think the conventional wisdom is typically you're gonna get
four from the SEC and four from the Big Ten.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
And like that's going to be eight.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Then you have three additional conference champions, which takes you
to eleven. Then you kind of have that twelfth spot
that's out there, which you know a lot of years
is going to be Notre Dame, probably this year included.
He's whatever, and he's going to continue to self cannibalize.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah, we're really going to see here, Jared, a undefeated,
potentially an undefeated state game and a two loss Michigan
team at the end of the year.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Oh, I think you're being nice to Michigan.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
You tell me who they're going to lose to. Are
they gonna they're gonna lose one party this weekend?
Speaker 3 (33:32):
I think I think they're do. I think they're going
to lose this party this weekend. Probably not know, but
I predik that they're on the edge of a spiral.
I feel like things are bad in getting worse and
could start to spire a lot of control.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
As the Spikes has said in chat Jared, Yeah, let's see.
We are thirty three minutes into it.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Their schedule is ass yeah, yeah, yeah, No, it's it's
it's it's total parties.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Purdue Northwestern in Maryland. Before I'm sorry, sat on the
Buckeyes say it again, sparty, Purdue Northwestern in Maryland. Did
you hear me? Northwestern? It is? It is going to
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be played in uh in Wrigley Field.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
I was about to say, there's no chantonnel Michigan was
going to be playing in that minor league stadium that
Northwestern built.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yeah all right, Uh where are we at? Uh M tier?
Everybody in emptier season M tier?
Speaker 5 (34:46):
Yeah a yeah, yeah absolutely at the Clemson permanently there,
Penn State permanently there, Florida State permanently there.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Three of these four teams lost this weekend, and Texas
went overtime against the team they should have theoretically shattered.
So yeah, sure, no one's no one's worked their way
out of in tier.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Gosh, Texas, how about this? Texas could get their way
out of there and they could move their way to back.
Yes they can, I.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Know, but no they can't.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
They could always back up to a tier. There is
a there is a very narrow okay alley way, narrow
alley of Texas. I'll give you narrow alley getting their
way to a tier, narrow, very narrow alley, rope tight
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rope path.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
North Spikes wants us to know that Northwestern have only
given up sixty nine points in conference games.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Nice. Yeah, My question is who who else have they?
Who do they lose out of conference and by how much?
Oh that's right, they lost to to Lane.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Listen, Albatross. I'm just albatross. Okay, albatross.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
All right. I think it's good. I don't think there's
anybody else worth I'm talking about for our podcast listeners,
House State, Indiana and s tier. You could maybe put
Alabama in there, whatever, A, Tiers Texas and no we're not,
We're not Oregon, Texas, A and M Georgia, tech USF Miami, Georgia, Alabama,
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al Miss b U y U, and Notre Dame in
no particular order. Yep.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
All right, Uh, second ad break, then we can do
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Speaker 2 (37:09):
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Speaker 3 (37:54):
Okay, Kyle, it's time for sloop picks.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
I sucked at the Slade weekend.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
As did I, so you and I remain right where
we left each other as far as our differential goes,
which still has you up two points. However, Spikes, who's
currently in the chat everyone say hi to Spikes, had
a banger of a week, getting five points to Kyle
(38:25):
and Ice two points. So the Chat have gained three
points on us and have officially moved into second place,
displacing me. So it's currently twenty nine points for Kyle,
twenty eight points for Chat, and twenty seven points for me.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
All Right, and.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Sun Card, for the fourth time out of the last
five weeks, won the webpics this week. Everyone who's not
named sun Card needs to step their shit up.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
All right, Let's let's go.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
There have been I think all four of those there's
been a tiebreaker that sun Carter has won the tiebreaker on,
but there has been a type breaker.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Sure, all right, let's go and get into our our
slip picks here, Jared, all right, First off, Oklahoma and
oh miss uh noon game and Oklahoma home favorite at
four and a half points. Uh, I'll go ahead and
uh lead us off here, and I just right now,
(39:35):
I just I'm sorry. Whoa Oklahoma? I'm sorry? Oklahoma is
a four and a half point favorite. Jared, same, hey, Kyle,
you and I responded to that same way. Wow, okay, Yeah,
that kind of tells you where I'm going, old miss.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
Yeah, I agree. Uh, Spikes, who's down in the live chat?
You gonna go ahead and pick for us if you
want to this week?
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Who do you have? He's also gonna says, all right,
all right, easy enough, all right. Next one is Memphis
and South Florida. Another new game, and uh, South Florida.
Just how to make sure here? South Florida is a
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three and a half point favorite in this one. I
think this, I think this is gonna be a nail bider.
I think this is gonna be close. So give me
Memphis to cover. I'll going with Memphis to cover.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
I on the other hand, no, I just I think
South Florida is much better.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Give me the bulls, all right, fair enough, all right?
Next up is Iowa State and b why you b
why are you looking to continue to stay undefeated? But
is a two and a half point underdog. I guess
Iowa State three point thirty kickoff? What do you got, Jared?
Speaker 3 (41:19):
I I Iowa State, just as sometimes Iowa State is
so different week to week, b Yu, I'm not convinced
of you know, their best win is Utah. Who is
another team that feels I don't know what to do
with the Big twelve right now. I do not know
(41:40):
what to do with the Big twelve right now. So
I think what I'm gonna gonna do is just go
with the points. I'm just gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna
pick b YU. They they're the underdog. I'm gonna take
that to an half point buffer, all right.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Spikes Estate, Yeah, I'm gonna take b YU. Just keep
it short and simple BYU. All right, h Next up,
Vanderbilt hosting Missouri and the Commodorees. Alright, three and a
(42:23):
half point favorite. Vanderbilt used to be the joke of
the SEC. Now it's tough to win. It's tough to
win in Nashville. Jared, Yeah, give me the Commodoors again.
I'll take the Commodores to win and cover. Yeah, I'm
gonna I don't know.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
Vanderbilt feels like the story of the moment. They feel
like they have a lot of hype right now. However,
I will point out that they played Alabama in back
to back weeks, so we're not talking like beginning the
season Bama versus mid season Alabama. These games happened consecutively,
right Missouri lost Alabama by three points. Vanderbilt lost Alabama
(43:19):
by sixteen points. I'm gonna use that as my litmus
test on top of the fact that Missouri has a
three and a half point buffer, and I'm gonna go
with Missouri. Sure, all right, we have a Vanderbilt from spikes,
all right.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Next up is Cincinnati hosting up Baylor twenty first ranked
bear Cats, and they are a five and a half
point favorite in this matchup a four o'clock kickoff. Who
you got, Jared?
Speaker 3 (44:00):
Once again, I don't feel like I have a good
feel for the Big twelve right now. Once again, give
me the underdog. And I didn't realize I was doing
this until I'm actually watching this chart.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Fill out. I've taken the away team every single game
so far. I was look weird Baylor's I was looking
at Baylor's schedule other than their their big loss against
Auburn in Week one, where they lost by fourteen points.
All the other two losses they've had or by one score,
(44:35):
lost to Arizona State, lost to TCU, keeping keeping it
in there, keeping keeping it close. But yeah, five and
a half points, it's less than a touchdown. So yeah,
I'll take the Bearcats.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
I'll take in the Bearcats next game.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
All right, ellis you hosting Texas A and M uh
seven point thirty kickoff Saturday night? And Texas A and
M on the road is a two and a half
point favorite. Which one you got here?
Speaker 4 (45:15):
Jared?
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (45:21):
I think LSU has been exposed, and I think Texas
A and M has just yet to be exposed. Scirt,
give give me the underdog, give me the home team.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
If this was minus two and a half points and
was being played in college station, I think I would
take the Aggies. But I'm getting a chance to take
LSU at home as a dog against a number three
(45:58):
team that I think is very over ranked. I think
I'm gonna take They're gonna take my chances with the Tigers.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Yeah, to me that this was the tough This is
the toughest one here looking looking at the teams here, like, yeah,
L Shues has two losses, all both of them by
one score. Here, but Texas A and M like they're
they're squeaking by with some wins. They Yeah, one point
went over Notre Dame, one possession game by Auburn, just
(46:33):
three points.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
Everyone by one possession. I'm telling you, what's that everyone
beats Auburn by one possession. Yes, that's I know they're
they're like remember in Nebraska a couple of years ago
where they lost all their games by a single possession.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Mm hmmm, that's Auburn this year. Yeah. L s Hues
losses both on the road, undefeated at home. So I
think they're gonna to the I think I'm going to
go with L s U to cover at home home
here at night. It's it's it's tough playing at night.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
In Baton Rouge, it really is. I think you persuaded,
or maybe maybe collectively, we persuaded A A a mid
recording switch up from Spikes. He has changed his mind. Okay,
he's lucky that photoshop has in a race tool.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
And is now going with the Tigers. Right. Last one
is Arizona State hosting Houston isn't a nice game and
death is tough. Yeah, this would be a fun game.
Fun game you got. You got two teams of the
Big twelve, both one one losses. This is a lot
lot in state, lot at stake for this for this
(47:56):
matchup here, and the home team, Arizona State is a
and a half point favorite. Both both of their losses
in conference, we're pretty bad, Like Arizona State lost by
thirty two points. Yeah, and Houston lost to Utah And
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Houston lost by twenty four points to Texas Tech. So
when they lose, they lost big. Yeah? Is that going
to be the Is that going to be the case
in this game here? I? I don't think so. I
think I think. I think both teams are going to
come out swing in here, and I think this will
come down to the wires. So I will I'll take
at least Houston to cover.
Speaker 3 (48:45):
All right, We have a Houston pick for both Kyle
and for Spikes for all of the reasons you said,
with Houston getting blown out several times, Arizona State coming
off of a big win over Texas Tech. Even with that,
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would I be happier if it was six and a
half points, Yes, I would be Am. I still gonna
even Is this seven and a half gonna scare me
away from taking the better team in this case?
Speaker 1 (49:16):
No, it's not.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
So I'm gonna I'm gonna go with the devils on
this one, Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 1 (49:28):
Who was Arizona State's second loss, Mississippi State.
Speaker 3 (49:33):
It was out a conference against a bad SEC team,
for the record, but it was also very early. It
was also very early in the season. Albatross. I'm just
calling Albatross. Albatross is the new Mulligan.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
Sure, all right, and that's it. That is that is
our picks, and we will finish off with some a
chaos theory pick.
Speaker 3 (49:57):
I like that Albatross is the exact opposite of Am,
but I've turned it into Mulligan.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
All right.
Speaker 3 (50:07):
I already have my pick made, so I'm gonna it's
It's all I have to do is reveal it. So
I'm gonna let you guys pick so that no one
copies my answer this week.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
Kyle, I ain't copying shit, I ain't copying ship, all right.
So I'm waiting on Kyle's pick. I'm waiting on Spikes's pick.
Who you guys got gosh there's there's there's.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
Not a lot of great options. There are a few
good options, there's there's no great options.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
Spikes is going with I state, that's kind of who
I was leaning towards the the big money one. If
you really wanted to, if you want to go with
the hot hand who's been winning recently a lot of points,
if you want to pick the Bruins.
Speaker 3 (51:05):
To listen, I'm not gonna lie. I thought about it.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
I'm not Tyle. I thought about it. You know, if
it was if it was in U see, if it
was at U c l A, I might have taken
U c l A in this one. But yeah, that's
that once again, Kyle's same. That's but I'm I'm that's
what drove me away from it. Yeah, but I'm taking
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the Cyclones though, just looking looking here and I'm not picking,
not doing it because the because Spikes said it, but
looking at looking at all of them here, I'm going
I'm going with Yeah, I'm going to go with the Cyclones,
all right.
Speaker 3 (51:55):
And because my answer was already created and I just
have to reveal it.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
You know that I didn't copy.
Speaker 3 (52:04):
It's it's honestly, it's honestly I think they by far
the best option on the table. I think there are
a couple other okay options, but for the value, because
I think there were some good options if you're willing
to take like a couple points, like if you're willing
(52:26):
to just take like two three, four points, there were
a couple okay options, but for the money, I think
I away States the only smart pick.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
If you want three points, you can take the Huskies
over Illinois.
Speaker 3 (52:45):
Yeah, that's literally the one I was talking about. That
is that is very literally the exact one I was
talking about. I think there's a second one in there
somewhere too, but that that was the exact.
Speaker 1 (52:57):
One I was talking about. And Kyle, I am currently
loser Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (53:03):
Uh, that's the other one, right Cincinnatiya, Cincinnati's twenty first
say that was worth.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
Like four points? Maybe just get the one point and
pick Sparty.
Speaker 3 (53:13):
Listen once again, thought about it because I am losing
to you by one point right now, Like that one
point would.
Speaker 1 (53:19):
Go a long way. It is an East Lansing.
Speaker 3 (53:23):
Yeah, I Sparti's Sparty's bad.
Speaker 1 (53:26):
Sparti.
Speaker 3 (53:27):
Sparti is knowing the entire season. This is a season
long Sparty.
Speaker 1 (53:31):
Now, all right, I think that's it. I think we'll
go and wrap it up right there, or any anything
else shared, No.
Speaker 3 (53:40):
Sir, let me get back over here, Kyle. This is
legally not brutus in chaos form, and that's right between
us in the in the chat. In case you were curious, Kyle,
do you, sir, have anything in Kyle's corner?
Speaker 1 (54:02):
I do, big boom, big, big boom in basketball. There's
been a couple of football booms too, but continue. Yeah,
five star small forward Anthony Thompson in state recruit staying
(54:23):
in the state of Ohio, UH number eight overall prospect,
number eight prospect in the twenty twenty six class. If
I'm looking looking here, yep, I mean you think, like, oh, yeah,
he should have gone to Ohio State, Like this is
this is the first time in many many years that
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oh State has had a five star recruit. It's been
a long time. And looking at the list of teams
that he turned down, like Kentucky, U NC, Indiana, the
cheaters up north, UH and even Texas too, like it's
it's it's a big victory when when he choose chose
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Ohio State over the those others.
Speaker 3 (55:14):
Yeah, no, absolutely, Like it's it's this is not this
is not football. A five star in state recruit is
you know, not to say that Ohio State has been
one hundred percent from a football perspective, in that there
have been notable five star losses from the football perspective.
Speaker 4 (55:34):
But.
Speaker 3 (55:38):
You know, it does kind of almost feel like the
default for an in state five star kid from a
football team is going to go to Ohio State. That
is not the default position for a basketball player. That
is not the state of the basketball program.
Speaker 1 (55:52):
Currently, he is the fourth highest rated prospect the Buckeyes
have landed since two thousand. There you go, I mean,
what else needs to be said? There have been some.
Speaker 3 (56:07):
There have been some great, great players from Ohio since then.
One of them notably didn't go to college.
Speaker 1 (56:15):
And there's been.
Speaker 3 (56:17):
Some great Buckeye recruits since then, So that says a lot.
Speaker 1 (56:23):
Yep, all right, that's it. That's all I got, Jared.
Speaker 3 (56:27):
All right, Uh, that's it for today's show.
Speaker 1 (56:32):
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Speaker 2 (56:50):
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Speaker 1 (56:53):
Again. No, but are you mom right?
Speaker 2 (57:01):
I'm coming back home to you. What does it feel
like I'm out of soul to the world.
Speaker 6 (57:24):
Put back the Peace says it don't fit like they
used to. No, I'm not proud of the things that
put you through. Put Back the Peace says, it don't
fit like they used to.
Speaker 2 (57:41):
And all that I can think is I don't deserve you.
Speaker 6 (58:07):
I could go back into the past.
Speaker 2 (58:13):
You know that would, But you know that I can
if I'm coming back home too soon. You know that
it's true that I'm God it needs you.
Speaker 4 (58:31):
Fun back, he says, it don't feel like they ust. No,
I'm not. I don't know the things are. But you
put back he says, they don't feel like nasted.
Speaker 2 (58:47):
And all that I can think is I don't desire you.
I'm coming back.
Speaker 7 (59:01):
For me again, and I know your face because you're
my friend and all that, all that.
Speaker 2 (59:14):
And I'll feel the pain listen from me.
Speaker 4 (59:21):
Foot back, but he says it don't fit like the ust. No,
I'm no, no, no, the things out what used to
fot Back the Piece says it don't fit like.
Speaker 1 (59:36):
They used to.
Speaker 2 (59:37):
And all I can think because I don't deserve.
Speaker 4 (59:42):
You foot back, but he says it don't fit like
they to. No, no, no no, the things out what
you do, but that the pace says it don't feel
like they used to.
Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
No that I can think it's high.
Speaker 4 (01:00:03):
Don't s a smute foot back, but he says, don't
fit like theas no, no, don't know the things so
much used to foot back. The piece says it don't fit.
Madays it's all that I can think. But it's high.
Speaker 7 (01:00:25):
Don't say as mute
Anchors upsells it full well, I'm gonna sleep gasagg intrinicle. Know, Jared,
how are you being good? Doing good new tradition, good traditions.
I feel like that was a good one. I feel
like that was a good one. I'll wait until the
(00:57):
podcast comes out and they'll hear it.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Night.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Kyle.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
When was the last time you actually listen back to
your own podcast?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I do from time to time. Oh god, I haven't
done it in years. I have not done it in years.
Let's let's get right into it. So the Year of
the Chaos continues. Yeah, and so it's a more shake
(01:26):
up in our tier list. So let's get right into
it because we've got a lot of movement in my eyes.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah yeah, there's no Ohio State game this weekend, so
this will probably be a little bit of a instead
of like a thirty forty minute episode of collegiate chaos.
We might do, we might do, Kyle, might we get
close to an hour? Maybe, well, we'll see Le's shoot
for fifty.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
We'll shoot for fifty. Let's shoot for fifty. All right,
all right, let's right, let's get into it. S tier mind, Jared,
I'm just gonna start us off in my mind. Yeah,
two teams just two times. I'se State in Indiana.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Can I interest you in an Alabama big win over
the weekend? They do have the we will, we will.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm gonna bring this phrase back.
I'm gonna bring this phrase back from from twenty fourteen.
They have the albatross of a very retrospectively weird loss
(02:31):
to Florida State. Sure, but since then have been a
very solid football team. They have the candor built. They
have a win over Georgia. They if you look at
their wins, you can stack their wins against any other
(02:51):
team's wins.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
In the country. Sure. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
They did, however, lose the Florida State. Yeah, and worda
State has badly. Yes, Uh, Spike's good point.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
It wasn't close, Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't a seven point,
it wasn't a three point. It was multiple scores, multiple scores.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, albatross, And where's Florida State right now? That's why
I said retrospectively weird. It was a lot easier to
believe that game when we thought Florida State was like
Capital B back. But Florida State has since proven that
they are their capital have not back.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
They've lost four in a row. Yeah, right in the cusp,
I say, but you're saying no about Alabama. I'm saying
no right now. But okay, you could convince me they
could go in the S tier. But I have on
my on my sheet here that they are right there
(03:57):
in a tier almost almost an S. So I hand
convince you. You gotta give you gotta convince me.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
All right, all right, all right, you know I'm gonna try.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I'm gonna try. You got seconds, you got sixty seconds,
I've got the time on. Hold on, I didn't I
didn't know. Just let me just let me do this.
Just let me do this.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Let me get their schedule in front of me. All right,
I got sixty seconds on the clock.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
One minute, and you go. Yes.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
They had a really weird loss to Florida State. It
was week one, as proven in twenty fourteen with Ohio State.
Sometimes you lose a game early as you're kind of
just figuring your shit out. I think Alabama was just
figuring their shit out. Since then, they defeated a top
flight Georgia team, a very like top of the middle
(04:54):
rung Vanderbilt team, a Missouri team and a Tennessee team
who were both ranked at the time. Is there he
is still ranked, granted but probably over ranked, and Tennessee
was ranked eleventh at the time granted over ranked. Tennessee
also still ranked. I believe over ranked, but still of
like a top twenty five team. There's a team here. Yes, yes,
(05:18):
SEC teams are always over ranked.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Cool, it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Illinois was also over ranked when Ohio State beat them.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
These things happen.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Point is is that I will stack there Georgia, Vanderbilt, Missouri,
Tennessee wins against any other team's four wins.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
All right, So my counter to that there you mentioned about, oh, well,
they they've played, they've played teams and they and rightfully
solo they played some tough opponents recently here. But you
compared it, compared it to the to the Ohio State
(05:59):
of fourteen Houstin dropped all the way to twenty two,
they dropped, Bamba drop they dropped fourteen, They dropped fourteen spots. Okay,
when they when they lost to Virginia Tech, how many
BAMA dropped. Bama dropped thirteen spots. So very similar, very similar.
(06:25):
It took Ohio State all year, okay, all year to
get to get close to the to the top four,
close to it. When they started playing some tougher opponents
coming into Look look November here, they were still let
me let me just how many risks fashions day checking
(06:45):
right now? They were still fourteenth. They were still fourteenth
going into November, and then teams teams started to lose.
High State kept winning and winning big and finally making
their way back at the end of the season. I
feel Alabama is on that same track, playing some suver
opponents now getting back up into into our A tier.
(07:08):
So I think I think as the season goes along here,
if they continue doing well and winning games, they go
into S tier. How many, going the same analogy as
Ohio State in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
How many ranked teams did Ohio State beat that entire
season a regular season.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
In the regular season? I see three?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Okay, So while I'll acknowledge that Missouri and Tennessee are
pretty over ranked, we can what if we combine that
into just one You keep one of them, throw the
other one away. That's three ranked teams that they've defeated. Okay,
So if we're talking about after if we're talking about
jewels on the crown.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
It is comparable. When I have State won their third
ranked game, they went to six they were at sixth ranked.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Okay, did that season have the same amount of insane
chaos that this season has had that has cleared off
a lot of the top teams from the top of
the board. The answer is no, we haven't seen it.
We have not seen a chaotic season like this since
two thousand and seven.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Sure, so, I'm sorry you didn't convince me, So I'm
gonna I don't think.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Listen, you started that with I think you could convince me,
but I think that was a lie. I don't think
I could.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
You didn't convince me when you threw in there that
Oh it's the it's they're like the state twenty fourteen State.
It took at all season, all season, but the number
of ranked teams of the playoffs. In fact, Alabama has
won more.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Okay, because we can we can argue that maybe Missouri
or Tennessee shouldn't be ranked, but I think Vanderbilt and
Georgia are both undoubtedly ranked teams.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
All Right, they win this weekend, Alabama can go into
s Tire.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
South Carolina is gonna push it over the top for you.
South Carolina sucks.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I know they do, all right.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Whatever is my only problem with this whole time, Kyle,
is that you said I could convince you, but I
don't think I could have.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
But you didn't. That's not what I said. Just we're
just repeating ourselves. We've got to move on here, So
I don't think. I don't think that was a winnable
war for me. Okay, A tier A te here, Oregon
stays in a tier. In my mind, I think Texas
A and M stays in a tier meaning that they've
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have one win against Notre Dame and they barely this
last weekend, they barely beat Arkansas Grant on the road
and they were able to come back and went win
it at the end there. Actually no, I'm sorry, Arkansas
tried to come back and wear it there. They held,
(10:08):
they held on, but it's still still win to win,
I guess. But they didn't look, they didn't do the
reasons me that that they blong in an s t
here they help met Kyle. Okay, So so Texas and
M stays where they're at. Georgia Tech stays under, stays
(10:28):
undefeated with their win against Duke and Durham this last weekend.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
We looked pretty prophetic moving us F up and moving
Memphis down ahead of last week's games. So I think
us F can remain in a Yep, Miami, We just
a Miami. We just moved down to a Georgia. I'm
not gonna make the case to move I'd pick Bam
(10:58):
if I can't convince you to move Bama up, I'm
not going to try and convince you to move Georgia up.
Also because I don't think Georgia belongs up there now,
Also because I don't think they belong to there. But again,
if I couldn't convince you to move Bama up, I
don't think convince you gonna be Georgia. Jeff is never
going to happen.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yep, Georgia doesn't. Also I don't want to. Okay. So
with that that is two four, six, eight nine. We
got three spots left. Well maybe well currently we currently
have twelve because in a tier currently we have Ole Miss,
LSU in Texas Tech Sure, all three of whom lost
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this weekend.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
This last weekend.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Okay, so Ole Miss with their first loss, yeah against
Georgia A one possession game thirty five forty three eight
point loss in Athens in Athens. Yes, I still, I
still think they're a pretty good team. I do believe
(12:06):
they should stay in a tier. They're absolutely right there.
There's two four six one, two, three, four, five six
seven eight teams in the SEC with one or no
losses in conference.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I was about to say in conference. Yeah, uh, yep,
I think they stay. LSU you have on here. Yeah,
LSU picked up yet another loss. Yep, they lost. They
lost on the road in Nashville against Vanderbilt. Yep. That's
(12:44):
two losses now in the SEC. That's that's going to
make it damn near impossible for them to get back in.
So right now they're on the outside. They're on the
outside looking in.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
AP dropped them to twenty.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
But I I I say, if I can do a
fog horn leg horn for a second, we move them
down here into what I affectionately refer to as C plus. Sure,
I'm fine, I'm fine with that. That's all the way.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
That's all the way from A to C. And the
reason being what you already mentioned. It's real crowd at
the top of the SEC right now, it is you're right,
and and they're on the outside of that.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Okay, all right, I got I got some movements here.
So Texas Tech with their loss to Arizona Arizona State,
Arizona State, Arizona State Big to me, I think they're
to me. I think they go and B tier because
Big Toy is only getting one team in. They're only
getting one, so they go down to B tier. Uh,
(13:52):
they get there, they get their chance. Here was it?
In about three weeks they do host a B YU
they get their chance. So so we.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Need to replace the times you have here with a
Big twelve team probably m h.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
So you have Louisville Notre Dame still kind of on here.
So two four, six, eight ten with two spots left.
We do have USF so we do have our group
of five still.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Right, but we also just removed the Big twelve.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
We did remove the Big twelve, So I'm glad you
brought that up. I on my list. Here you go
with one of the undefeated, because I think there is
a second yep, there's a second undefeated in conference as well. Yes,
internaty yep. But I'm going to go with B yuh
(14:52):
getting in in the uh an A tier as the
winner of the Big Twelve. So my I my mind,
I think it BYU in eight tier moving up to
eight tier.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
And we'll say Sincinnty's playing Baylor this weekend and Iowa
States playing BYU this weekend.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
So we could have some pretty.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Big Big Twelve shakeups when maybe turned to this tier
list in a in a week. So I think, did you,
I mean, I'm just gonna ask the question. I'm gonna
leave the decision up to you. Did you take a
good hearted look at Arizona State? They are the ones
that defeated Texas Tech and they also play Houston this weekend.
(15:38):
They did get moved up just barely into the APU.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Sure, but I think right now, as we're recording this
here in October, middle to end of October, they're in
B tier. They absolutely can get up to A tier, absolutely,
but as we're speaking right now, I cannot put them
into into a B tier or into eight tier, So
they stay in B tier. Can I ask, why do
(16:04):
you just like Cincinnati more? Do you? I just see
only one team from the Big twelve now we're talking about,
and that's b YU currently b YU in over any
other Big Twelve team b YU or Cincinnati b y
(16:24):
U B y U in undefeated undefeated b YU. Miss
I missed you wanted Cincinnati in No, No, Cincinnati is
the other undefeated team in the Big twelve that you
could talk about. But I'm going with the undefeated b
YU team right now the victory over Utah.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Okay, so you basically narrowed it down to the two
undefeateds in the conference because they're both undefeated in conference.
Cincinnati lost to Nebraska week one, wasn't it week one
or week two?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:02):
But but but in conference Cincinnati is undefeated. Yep, I
I understand your logic there, can I ask you who
is by u's best win?
Speaker 1 (17:17):
That would be Utah? Fair enough?
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Yeah, and they play Iowa State this weekend, which will
be a tough game.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah. So Louisville and Notre Dame. Yeah, uh, I'll just
get right to the point. I have Notre Dame as
the last team in a tier.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Here.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Here we go. We we talked about that after after
their second loss, Like, oh boy, we're going to talk
about end of the year here. I mean, we're in
the middle of the season, but we're.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Starting the amount of chaos that has taken place. Has
been a season's worth chaos alrighty absolutely, yes.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Which is my bamma belongs in st here. They've looked great,
they've looked right now. They had the three point loss
to Miami, a top ten team, a one point loss
to Texas Sam a top ten team. They've scored a
ton of points against Purdue. I mean they let up
(18:19):
a lot too, but they scored a bunch against Purdue,
destroyed Arkansas, beat up Boise State, beat up and c
Stay and took care of their rival of USC just
this last weekend. They're hitting on all cylinders. And we
talked about it, or at least I mentioned it. They
need to They need to win the voters' hearts right now,
(18:41):
and by looking great and just just scoring as many
points they need, they need style points, and they're doing
it with the help of team Chaos. But with all
those together, I think this week they're right there at
the end of eighteen here they get that they get
(19:01):
that last spot. So and I have like the first
four out if you want to say, and B tier,
I think it. I think Texas Tech, Cincinnati, Vanderbilt, Oklahoma,
Missouri I think are kind of like right at that
edge there. If one of the teams in their conference loses,
(19:26):
they could go up into into that position. Then I think,
I think Vanderbilt. I think Vanderbilt. Ye, so you have
Vanderbilt and see I think Vanderbilt goes up to be tier.
I agree. Do you still have Oklahoma? I don't be Oklahoma.
It's the old Yeah, I'm not I'm not from Yeah,
(19:46):
I didn't. I was not looking for that, uh that
logo of Oklahoma Texas Tech. I think you have there
in Missouri.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Missouri, I had as a comp versation as to whether
to drop them out of beat here.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
I take it you are not in favor of that
one loss in one loss, and that was in conference,
a three point loss to Alabama. I agree, they're in
the hunt.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
They lost this weekend, so so I put them there
for conversation.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I agree with you. I don't believe they deserve to
be dropped down. No, Missouri didn't lose this weekend. They
won their game. They only have one loss to Alabama.
Why did I have them down there? I'm not sure either.
They didn't look that great against Auburn. Yeah, but no
(20:43):
one looks take care of Auburn in overtime. No one
looks good against Auburn does look good against the refs.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
God, not that I'm saying that for this game. I
think Kyle was saying that for the Georgia game. But
burn are experts at losing one score games. But different
conversation for a different time, Kyle. I think we can
finish up the rest of b tire by seeing who
deserves to be kicked out and who maybe gets deserved
(21:13):
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Speaker 3 (22:50):
Kyle losing this weekend, USC, Nebraska, Tennessee, and Memphis. We
previously had them in B tier. Who deserves to remain
in B tier? Who deserves to be kicked out?
Speaker 1 (23:13):
I gotta look at I gotta look at USC because
I didn't have USC anywhere, because I think, yeah, they
do have just one loss in conference, and that is
too Illinois.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Yeah that was a if I remember correctly, that was
a bad body clock game.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yeah, gosh, they're right, they're right there on that cusp
of B and C. The way I'm looking at it here,
one loss in the Big ten one two, three, four, five,
six nine teams as well in the Big ten with
one loss or one or no losses as well. Yeah,
(23:54):
it's it's a crowded it's a crowded field.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
You see LA is in the mix, don't you don't
it's not it's not.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
All right, Gosh, I don't know. I'm I'm actually torn
about that. I say right now they're in the C plus.
I would say C plus right now, knowing knowing how
this year is gone. They may be moved up to
be tier next week. Who knows, all right, and Nebraska,
(24:26):
Nebraska is down. No, there's no I don't see them happen. Yeah,
they're just in sea period they're in, especially with their
uh they're lost to Jared's Golden Gophers there and it
wasn't even a competition. No, it wasn't even competition there. Uh, Tennessee,
(24:51):
I think Tennessee's also did they have just the Oh yeah,
that's who was it? They got to They got two losses.
They got two losses in the Yeah, both in conference.
They lost to Georgia and Alabama. Good losses. There's no
(25:12):
such thing. But they did get they did get. They
didn't get smoked by Alabama, though.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
There's such thing as a good loss. There are less
bad losses. There's such thing as a good loss.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
And yeah they got well, okay, and then you have Yeah,
so Tennessee and C tier. They can move up to
B tier, maybe a tier if if it as the
season goes along. But right now, see tier, I'm fine
with that, and gosh to to, I think right now,
just keep them in. See. Two losses is so hard,
(25:43):
so hard to agree to get out of right now
at at this stage of the of the season. I'm
gonna Memphis, they play South Florida. That's us. That's our
slip pick. That's one of our slip picks. Later in
the show, I say, keep women be tier.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
At least for now, pending the result of their game
against South Florida this weekend.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
That's my take, gotcha, Yeah, I mean yeah, I guess
they're they're at the edge. They're at the edge of
B tier. Yeah, I agree, they're they're on the lower
edge of B tire.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
The the the American is not it's not nine teams
deep the way the Big Ten and the SEC are. Yeah,
so coming back from one loss isn't going to be
super difficult. Navy is currently undefeated at the top of
the American USF. Their only loss is out of conference,
(26:54):
so they're undefeated in the conference.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Some other teams that some other teams to take note
of as well. You mentioned Navy, but Tulane is another
to keep an eye out for.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
And Houston and uh Tulane is in B tier and
I have Houston, Kyle, as you transition us down into
Sea Tier. I do have some teams in C plus
for conversation to move up into B tier.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Among them is Houston. Who is Who's you know who
else should be in C plus because I don't see
them in there. We talked about them last year. Yeah,
team a team in the in the sun Belt here, Okay,
(27:50):
the Duke the Duke's of James Madison.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
I have there in c uh, the the sun I
don't have a sun Belt, I call them. Okay, I
guess I'll just go out.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Here for I think it's worth keeping an eye just
I don't think they're anywhere close to BET here, but
definitely keep an eye out.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Listen, I'm I'm all for including teams in C plus.
Teams currently in C plus, Kyle, and you tell me
if you want any of them to move up to
be We're gonna rapid fire this. Just stop me if
you think they should. If you don't think they should
move up, just let me keep going. If you think
I should move them up, stop me. Michigan, Minnesota, Northwestern, Yes,
(28:34):
I'm being serious, Iowa s m U, Duke Houston, TCU Boise,
San Diego, James Madison.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Yeah, I think I think TCU stays in se I
think I think to me that that's the easiest one
that I think they would stay and see Tier right now.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
All right, I only tell me who you think should
move up, and you didn't stop me. I told you
to interrupt me if I hit on one.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I know I'm trying to think them and you just
rapid firing them.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Oho, Kyle, you can if you go back and listen
to this, you can hear me pause where I expected
you to interrupt me. I gave a nice long pause
after some of those teams, so you can tell which
ones I was at least considering as spikes has my back.
(29:38):
There were a lot of pauses, So there were a
couple where I was giving you opportunity to interrupt.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Me because I thought that team was at least worthy
of consideration. You tell me, Jared, you tell me which
ones you think.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
I think SMU is worthy of at least consideration. That's
the only one I would really I'm not even gonna pound.
I don't think any of them need to move up
this week.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
For the record, Yeah, yes, well that's something you had,
the big had the big win against Clemson.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Well pause, that's I'm sorry what you call a win
over Clemson a big win in the year of Our
Lord twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Sure, sure, okay, they don't have any good wins.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Okay, fair, listen, no good wins.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I'm not saying any.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Of these teams should be in seat here. I just
thought a couple of them you expected maybe at least
something from you.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
But that's okay. I think I think all of them
that you mentioned are definitely once that can go into
BE tier if there's if when there are more chaos here,
because a lot of these teams have only one loss
in conference or maybe none, like like SMU, that definitely
(31:10):
could jump up to B tier.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
And then let me ask you this question, Kyle, how
many teams do you think the big ten places in
the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Currently?
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Like?
Speaker 1 (31:22):
How currently? Right now? It's three. I looking at who
else from the Big Ten would go in here, I'm
looking at team I'm looking at I'm looking at teams
with uh with one or fewer losses in conference. Ucla no, Minnesota, no, Michigan,
(31:44):
maybe Iowa no, USC currently no, but keep an eye
on them. Northwestern No. So it's Oregon, Ohio State in Indiana.
So right now it's three. So i'd say the over
unders three point five.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
All right, I'm just saying I find it hard to
believe there won't be a fourth Big Ten team, although
I completely agree with you that who that team is
is currently a bit of a mystery.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah Goo, good jump pen State. Good jump Penn State,
because it would have been easily four, easily four because
I think the.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
I think the conventional wisdom is typically you're gonna get
four from the SEC and four from the Big Ten.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
And like that's going to be eight.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Then you have three additional conference champions, which takes you
to eleven. Then you kind of have that twelfth spot
that's out there, which you know a lot of years
is going to be Notre Dame, probably this year included.
He's whatever, and he's going to continue to self cannibalize.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah, we're really going to see here, Jared, a undefeated,
potentially an undefeated state game and a two loss Michigan
team at the end of the year.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Oh, I think you're being nice to Michigan.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
You tell me who they're going to lose to. Are
they gonna they're gonna lose one party this weekend?
Speaker 3 (33:32):
I think I think they're do. I think they're going
to lose this party this weekend. Probably not know, but
I predik that they're on the edge of a spiral.
I feel like things are bad in getting worse and
could start to spire a lot of control.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
As the Spikes has said in chat Jared, Yeah, let's see.
We are thirty three minutes into it.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Their schedule is ass yeah, yeah, yeah, No, it's it's
it's it's total parties.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Purdue Northwestern in Maryland. Before I'm sorry, sat on the
Buckeyes say it again, sparty, Purdue Northwestern in Maryland. Did
you hear me? Northwestern? It is? It is going to
(34:24):
be played in uh in Wrigley Field.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
I was about to say, there's no chantonnel Michigan was
going to be playing in that minor league stadium that
Northwestern built.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yeah all right, Uh where are we at? Uh M tier?
Everybody in emptier season M tier?
Speaker 5 (34:46):
Yeah a yeah, yeah absolutely at the Clemson permanently there,
Penn State permanently there, Florida State permanently there.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Three of these four teams lost this weekend, and Texas
went overtime against the team they should have theoretically shattered.
So yeah, sure, no one's no one's worked their way
out of in tier.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Gosh, Texas, how about this? Texas could get their way
out of there and they could move their way to back.
Yes they can, I.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Know, but no they can't.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
They could always back up to a tier. There is
a there is a very narrow okay alley way, narrow
alley of Texas. I'll give you narrow alley getting their
way to a tier, narrow, very narrow alley, rope tight
(35:46):
rope path.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
North Spikes wants us to know that Northwestern have only
given up sixty nine points in conference games.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Nice. Yeah, My question is who who else have they?
Who do they lose out of conference and by how much?
Oh that's right, they lost to to Lane.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Listen, Albatross. I'm just albatross. Okay, albatross.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
All right. I think it's good. I don't think there's
anybody else worth I'm talking about for our podcast listeners,
House State, Indiana and s tier. You could maybe put
Alabama in there, whatever, A, Tiers Texas and no we're not,
We're not Oregon, Texas, A and M Georgia, tech USF Miami, Georgia, Alabama,
(36:50):
al Miss b U y U, and Notre Dame in
no particular order. Yep.
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Speaker 3 (37:54):
Okay, Kyle, it's time for sloop picks.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
I sucked at the Slade weekend.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
As did I, so you and I remain right where
we left each other as far as our differential goes,
which still has you up two points. However, Spikes, who's
currently in the chat everyone say hi to Spikes, had
a banger of a week, getting five points to Kyle
(38:25):
and Ice two points. So the Chat have gained three
points on us and have officially moved into second place,
displacing me. So it's currently twenty nine points for Kyle,
twenty eight points for Chat, and twenty seven points for me.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
All Right, and.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Sun Card, for the fourth time out of the last
five weeks, won the webpics this week. Everyone who's not
named sun Card needs to step their shit up.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
All right, Let's let's go.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
There have been I think all four of those there's
been a tiebreaker that sun Carter has won the tiebreaker on,
but there has been a type breaker.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Sure, all right, let's go and get into our our
slip picks here, Jared, all right, First off, Oklahoma and
oh miss uh noon game and Oklahoma home favorite at
four and a half points. Uh, I'll go ahead and
uh lead us off here, and I just right now,
(39:35):
I just I'm sorry. Whoa Oklahoma? I'm sorry? Oklahoma is
a four and a half point favorite. Jared, same, hey, Kyle,
you and I responded to that same way. Wow, okay, Yeah,
that kind of tells you where I'm going, old miss.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
Yeah, I agree. Uh, Spikes, who's down in the live chat?
You gonna go ahead and pick for us if you
want to this week?
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Who do you have? He's also gonna says, all right,
all right, easy enough, all right. Next one is Memphis
and South Florida. Another new game, and uh, South Florida.
Just how to make sure here? South Florida is a
(40:24):
three and a half point favorite in this one. I
think this, I think this is gonna be a nail bider.
I think this is gonna be close. So give me
Memphis to cover. I'll going with Memphis to cover.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
I on the other hand, no, I just I think
South Florida is much better.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Give me the bulls, all right, fair enough, all right?
Next up is Iowa State and b why you b
why are you looking to continue to stay undefeated? But
is a two and a half point underdog. I guess
Iowa State three point thirty kickoff? What do you got, Jared?
Speaker 3 (41:19):
I I Iowa State, just as sometimes Iowa State is
so different week to week, b Yu, I'm not convinced
of you know, their best win is Utah. Who is
another team that feels I don't know what to do
with the Big twelve right now. I do not know
(41:40):
what to do with the Big twelve right now. So
I think what I'm gonna gonna do is just go
with the points. I'm just gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna
pick b YU. They they're the underdog. I'm gonna take
that to an half point buffer, all right.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Spikes Estate, Yeah, I'm gonna take b YU. Just keep
it short and simple BYU. All right, h Next up,
Vanderbilt hosting Missouri and the Commodorees. Alright, three and a
(42:23):
half point favorite. Vanderbilt used to be the joke of
the SEC. Now it's tough to win. It's tough to
win in Nashville. Jared, Yeah, give me the Commodoors again.
I'll take the Commodores to win and cover. Yeah, I'm
gonna I don't know.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
Vanderbilt feels like the story of the moment. They feel
like they have a lot of hype right now. However,
I will point out that they played Alabama in back
to back weeks, so we're not talking like beginning the
season Bama versus mid season Alabama. These games happened consecutively,
right Missouri lost Alabama by three points. Vanderbilt lost Alabama
(43:19):
by sixteen points. I'm gonna use that as my litmus
test on top of the fact that Missouri has a
three and a half point buffer, and I'm gonna go
with Missouri. Sure, all right, we have a Vanderbilt from spikes,
all right.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Next up is Cincinnati hosting up Baylor twenty first ranked
bear Cats, and they are a five and a half
point favorite in this matchup a four o'clock kickoff. Who
you got, Jared?
Speaker 3 (44:00):
Once again, I don't feel like I have a good
feel for the Big twelve right now. Once again, give
me the underdog. And I didn't realize I was doing
this until I'm actually watching this chart.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Fill out. I've taken the away team every single game
so far. I was look weird Baylor's I was looking
at Baylor's schedule other than their their big loss against
Auburn in Week one, where they lost by fourteen points.
All the other two losses they've had or by one score,
(44:35):
lost to Arizona State, lost to TCU, keeping keeping it
in there, keeping keeping it close. But yeah, five and
a half points, it's less than a touchdown. So yeah,
I'll take the Bearcats.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
I'll take in the Bearcats next game.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
All right, ellis you hosting Texas A and M uh
seven point thirty kickoff Saturday night? And Texas A and
M on the road is a two and a half
point favorite. Which one you got here?
Speaker 4 (45:15):
Jared?
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (45:21):
I think LSU has been exposed, and I think Texas
A and M has just yet to be exposed. Scirt,
give give me the underdog, give me the home team.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
If this was minus two and a half points and
was being played in college station, I think I would
take the Aggies. But I'm getting a chance to take
LSU at home as a dog against a number three
(45:58):
team that I think is very over ranked. I think
I'm gonna take They're gonna take my chances with the Tigers.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Yeah, to me that this was the tough This is
the toughest one here looking looking at the teams here, like, yeah,
L Shues has two losses, all both of them by
one score. Here, but Texas A and M like they're
they're squeaking by with some wins. They Yeah, one point
went over Notre Dame, one possession game by Auburn, just
(46:33):
three points.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
Everyone by one possession. I'm telling you, what's that everyone
beats Auburn by one possession. Yes, that's I know they're
they're like remember in Nebraska a couple of years ago
where they lost all their games by a single possession.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Mm hmmm, that's Auburn this year. Yeah. L s Hues
losses both on the road, undefeated at home. So I
think they're gonna to the I think I'm going to
go with L s U to cover at home home
here at night. It's it's it's tough playing at night.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
In Baton Rouge, it really is. I think you persuaded,
or maybe maybe collectively, we persuaded A A a mid
recording switch up from Spikes. He has changed his mind. Okay,
he's lucky that photoshop has in a race tool.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
And is now going with the Tigers. Right. Last one
is Arizona State hosting Houston isn't a nice game and
death is tough. Yeah, this would be a fun game.
Fun game you got. You got two teams of the
Big twelve, both one one losses. This is a lot
lot in state, lot at stake for this for this
(47:56):
matchup here, and the home team, Arizona State is a
and a half point favorite. Both both of their losses
in conference, we're pretty bad, Like Arizona State lost by
thirty two points. Yeah, and Houston lost to Utah And
(48:20):
Houston lost by twenty four points to Texas Tech. So
when they lose, they lost big. Yeah? Is that going
to be the Is that going to be the case
in this game here? I? I don't think so. I
think I think. I think both teams are going to
come out swing in here, and I think this will
come down to the wires. So I will I'll take
at least Houston to cover.
Speaker 3 (48:45):
All right, We have a Houston pick for both Kyle
and for Spikes for all of the reasons you said,
with Houston getting blown out several times, Arizona State coming
off of a big win over Texas Tech. Even with that,
(49:06):
would I be happier if it was six and a
half points, Yes, I would be Am. I still gonna
even Is this seven and a half gonna scare me
away from taking the better team in this case?
Speaker 1 (49:16):
No, it's not.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
So I'm gonna I'm gonna go with the devils on
this one, Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 1 (49:28):
Who was Arizona State's second loss, Mississippi State.
Speaker 3 (49:33):
It was out a conference against a bad SEC team,
for the record, but it was also very early. It
was also very early in the season. Albatross. I'm just
calling Albatross. Albatross is the new Mulligan.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
Sure, all right, and that's it. That is that is
our picks, and we will finish off with some a
chaos theory pick.
Speaker 3 (49:57):
I like that Albatross is the exact opposite of Am,
but I've turned it into Mulligan.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
All right.
Speaker 3 (50:07):
I already have my pick made, so I'm gonna it's
It's all I have to do is reveal it. So
I'm gonna let you guys pick so that no one
copies my answer this week.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
Kyle, I ain't copying shit, I ain't copying ship, all right.
So I'm waiting on Kyle's pick. I'm waiting on Spikes's pick.
Who you guys got gosh there's there's there's.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
Not a lot of great options. There are a few
good options, there's there's no great options.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
Spikes is going with I state, that's kind of who
I was leaning towards the the big money one. If
you really wanted to, if you want to go with
the hot hand who's been winning recently a lot of points,
if you want to pick the Bruins.
Speaker 3 (51:05):
To listen, I'm not gonna lie. I thought about it.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
I'm not Tyle. I thought about it. You know, if
it was if it was in U see, if it
was at U c l A, I might have taken
U c l A in this one. But yeah, that's
that once again, Kyle's same. That's but I'm I'm that's
what drove me away from it. Yeah, but I'm taking
(51:35):
the Cyclones though, just looking looking here and I'm not picking,
not doing it because the because Spikes said it, but
looking at looking at all of them here, I'm going
I'm going with Yeah, I'm going to go with the Cyclones,
all right.
Speaker 3 (51:55):
And because my answer was already created and I just
have to reveal it.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
You know that I didn't copy.
Speaker 3 (52:04):
It's it's honestly, it's honestly I think they by far
the best option on the table. I think there are
a couple other okay options, but for the value, because
I think there were some good options if you're willing
to take like a couple points, like if you're willing
(52:26):
to just take like two three, four points, there were
a couple okay options, but for the money, I think
I away States the only smart pick.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
If you want three points, you can take the Huskies
over Illinois.
Speaker 3 (52:45):
Yeah, that's literally the one I was talking about. That
is that is very literally the exact one I was
talking about. I think there's a second one in there
somewhere too, but that that was the exact.
Speaker 1 (52:57):
One I was talking about. And Kyle, I am currently
loser Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (53:03):
Uh, that's the other one, right Cincinnatiya, Cincinnati's twenty first
say that was worth.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
Like four points? Maybe just get the one point and
pick Sparty.
Speaker 3 (53:13):
Listen once again, thought about it because I am losing
to you by one point right now, Like that one
point would.
Speaker 1 (53:19):
Go a long way. It is an East Lansing.
Speaker 3 (53:23):
Yeah, I Sparti's Sparty's bad.
Speaker 1 (53:26):
Sparti.
Speaker 3 (53:27):
Sparti is knowing the entire season. This is a season
long Sparty.
Speaker 1 (53:31):
Now, all right, I think that's it. I think we'll
go and wrap it up right there, or any anything
else shared, No.
Speaker 3 (53:40):
Sir, let me get back over here, Kyle. This is
legally not brutus in chaos form, and that's right between
us in the in the chat. In case you were curious, Kyle,
do you, sir, have anything in Kyle's corner?
Speaker 1 (54:02):
I do, big boom, big, big boom in basketball. There's
been a couple of football booms too, but continue. Yeah,
five star small forward Anthony Thompson in state recruit staying
(54:23):
in the state of Ohio, UH number eight overall prospect,
number eight prospect in the twenty twenty six class. If
I'm looking looking here, yep, I mean you think, like, oh, yeah,
he should have gone to Ohio State, Like this is
this is the first time in many many years that
(54:47):
oh State has had a five star recruit. It's been
a long time. And looking at the list of teams
that he turned down, like Kentucky, U NC, Indiana, the
cheaters up north, UH and even Texas too, like it's
it's it's a big victory when when he choose chose
(55:10):
Ohio State over the those others.
Speaker 3 (55:14):
Yeah, no, absolutely, Like it's it's this is not this
is not football. A five star in state recruit is
you know, not to say that Ohio State has been
one hundred percent from a football perspective, in that there
have been notable five star losses from the football perspective.
Speaker 4 (55:34):
But.
Speaker 3 (55:38):
You know, it does kind of almost feel like the
default for an in state five star kid from a
football team is going to go to Ohio State. That
is not the default position for a basketball player. That
is not the state of the basketball program.
Speaker 1 (55:52):
Currently, he is the fourth highest rated prospect the Buckeyes
have landed since two thousand. There you go, I mean,
what else needs to be said? There have been some.
Speaker 3 (56:07):
There have been some great, great players from Ohio since then.
One of them notably didn't go to college.
Speaker 1 (56:15):
And there's been.
Speaker 3 (56:17):
Some great Buckeye recruits since then, So that says a lot.
Speaker 1 (56:23):
Yep, all right, that's it. That's all I got, Jared.
Speaker 3 (56:27):
All right, Uh, that's it for today's show.
Speaker 1 (56:32):
Tonight's ending music brought to you by the Soul Monsters.
Speaker 3 (56:35):
So with all that being said, I'd like to encourage
everyone to drink local bear, listen to local music, and
of course sports local podcasters. Once again, these as.
Speaker 2 (56:50):
I'm coming.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
Again. No, but are you mom right?
Speaker 2 (57:01):
I'm coming back home to you. What does it feel
like I'm out of soul to the world.
Speaker 6 (57:24):
Put back the Peace says it don't fit like they
used to. No, I'm not proud of the things that
put you through. Put Back the Peace says, it don't
fit like they used to.
Speaker 2 (57:41):
And all that I can think is I don't deserve you.
Speaker 6 (58:07):
I could go back into the past.
Speaker 2 (58:13):
You know that would, But you know that I can
if I'm coming back home too soon. You know that
it's true that I'm God it needs you.
Speaker 4 (58:31):
Fun back, he says, it don't feel like they ust. No,
I'm not. I don't know the things are. But you
put back he says, they don't feel like nasted.
Speaker 2 (58:47):
And all that I can think is I don't desire you.
I'm coming back.
Speaker 7 (59:01):
For me again, and I know your face because you're
my friend and all that, all that.
Speaker 2 (59:14):
And I'll feel the pain listen from me.
Speaker 4 (59:21):
Foot back, but he says it don't fit like the ust. No,
I'm no, no, no, the things out what used to
fot Back the Piece says it don't fit like.
Speaker 1 (59:36):
They used to.
Speaker 2 (59:37):
And all I can think because I don't deserve.
Speaker 4 (59:42):
You foot back, but he says it don't fit like
they to. No, no, no no, the things out what
you do, but that the pace says it don't feel
like they used to.
Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
No that I can think it's high.
Speaker 4 (01:00:03):
Don't s a smute foot back, but he says, don't
fit like theas no, no, don't know the things so
much used to foot back. The piece says it don't fit.
Madays it's all that I can think. But it's high.
Speaker 7 (01:00:25):
Don't say as mute
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