October 9, 2025 • 40 mins
Luke Altmyer is a beast and that must be said. But does he have enough help to take out the mighty Ohio State Buckeyes?
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Speaker 1 (00:37):
Anchors up sales a cook. Welcome to the sleep Cast.
How are you doing to takout.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Right, Jared? How are you doing good?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Doing good?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Doing good?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
You just got done uh filming slash recording Cleegiate Chaos,
which means it's not to know your enemy?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
This this this gay, This game feels like it would
have been a lot bigger hand Illinois not been ramshackled
by Indiana. This feels like it could have been a
top ten matchup. This feels like it could have had
a ton of hype, maybe gotten game day to go
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out to Champagne. Has that ever happened before? I don't
know this. This feels like it could have been much bigger,
much much bigger than than it has turned out to be.
(01:39):
But we we we got our we got our friend
Bert here with us. So, h, Kyle, is it time
to get to know our enemies?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yes, sir, let's let's get to know illin noy Ill
game being played, game being played in Champagne fifteen and
a half point favor for the Buckeyes here.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, we talked a little bit about that on know
your enemy or excuse me, this is your enemy? On
Collegiate Chaos I guess maybe just to jump right to it,
I don't think that's enough points. Personally speaking, I expected
the line to be more like twenty one and a half,
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maybe twenty and a half. I wass I was surprised
it came in in the teens. That's that's my own
take on it. Don't take that as advice unless you
want to. But if you do, don't blame me. This
team crushed Western Illinois. It's an FCS team. Who cares
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they crushed Duke. We didn't necessarily know what to do
with that information.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
We didn't know who Duke was side died first in
the acc.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
It's not saying a lot. They put a whooping on
Western Michigan. What does that really mean? Then the Indiana
game came, and that game had a lot of hype
around it. I believe Illinois was top ten at the time.
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Kyle and I never bought into Illinois as much as
a lot of the Big ten media did.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
The hip to be good.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
They're going to be good, yeah, I mean like, I
like Luke Altmeyer. I think he's a very competent quarterback.
I think he's gonna piss off some Ohio State fans
on Saturday on a couple of drives. But here, here's
what happened with Illinois.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
The hype.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
The hype got too big. And what I don't mean
that like the hype got to Illinois and they thought
they were all and that's not what I'm saying. I'm
this is strictly about the media. It started with, Hey, look,
Illinois kind of has a favorable schedule. They have a
senior team, a favorable schedule. Illinois could be really involved
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with the you know, maybe gett into the Big Ten
title game with this favorable schedule and a pretty senior team,
and Luke Altmeyer's pretty good. They got a good quarterback.
A couple of people say that, a few people say that,
then a lot of people are saying it. So now
you get this little bit of hype and it kind
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of grows into not a hot take anymore. Now it's
just kind of the standard opinion. And the people who
got in early and some were some of the first
people who were like hyping up the possibility that Illinois
could be a player in the Big Ten this year,
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they started doubling down and in the hype grew from oh,
they have a pretty favorable schedule and a pretty good
team to all of a sudden, like, hey, actually, Illinois
is pretty damn good, you guys, actually not. Oh and
now everyone's saying they're pretty damn good. Okay, actually they're great.
Actually they could challenge Ohio State and Oregon and Penn
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State on the field. This is the myth of Illinois.
You just sort of watched its snowball through the preseason
and and the hype got out of control. Sure, sure,
in my opinion, Illinois sitting here at where do they
rank right now? Seventeenth? That feels about right for this team.
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Maybe even still a little inflated if I'm being honest.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yeah, this this team. For looking at the stats here, Uh,
they've been putting a point again grant who they've played,
Western Illinois, Western Michigan, Purdue. They've put up points, but
they've they they did put up the points that they
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that they're we thought that they should. They've also been
letting up twenty fifth though, no, it's getting there, twenty
fifth in the country, thirty. They're scoring thirty four points
a game. They're sixteenth in the country at points per play,
So they're they're That tells me that they're scoring points
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in and doing it efficiently. Where else are they doing well?
Passing yards per pass number four in the country, ten
point five yards per pass.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
That's really good. But yeah, but they that's per past attempt.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, but they are one and third in the country
and rushing yards and one hundred and thirteenth at rushing yards
per rush at three point three yards per rush. Against
Western Illinois, against Duke, against Western Michigan, well, I don't
think they counted Western Illinois. But against Western Michigan and Purdue,
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you're only averaging three point three yards per rush. That
I don't don't think. I don't think. No matter what
you're good or bad in, it doesn't matter against how
house these defenses look. But you're making yourself. You're putting
yourself into being more white, one dimensional and passing. You
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know how a state can be Like, all right, sure, sure,
go ahead and do that. I don't think it's going
to bold well. And then on the opposite side, defensively,
bottom half, near the bottom, and most of the major
categories here near the bottom end. Yards let up per
game near the bottom, passing yards per game, seventy second,
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in rushing yards per game, averaging just under five yards
per carry and they're letting it forty five percent on
third downs defensively two when aus State is near the top,
or actually I think the hour number one in third
down percentage wit in surprise. Yeah, High State offense, I
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think should be it should be like a hot, hot
knife through butter in this matchup.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah. And not only and like to go back to
Illinois offense for a second, Not only are they one
dimensional when it comes to passing. And I like Luke Altmeyer.
I think he's a talented quarterback. I think he has
NFL potential. I think he'll be one of those guys
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who's better in the NFL than he was in college.
Quite frankly, coming out.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Of a career high against against Purdue, he he threw
for three hundred and ninety yards. Yeah, in this one,
three hundred ninety yards, one touchdown, pretty accurate. Night. He
completed nineteen pass He was nineteen for twenty two, nineteen
passes for three hundred ninety yards. A lot of does
that tells me that they're going deep in and they
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were hitting those right and Hot State is near the
top and not letting up those big, big.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Plays, right, and but you know, back to Altmeyer. He
and I'm not is this is this a hymn thing
or is this an offensive line thing? Is not a
topic I want to get into right now. But he
takes a lot of sacks. He's been sacked nineteen times
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already this season. Does Altmeyer do any run option? Looks
he does not have a ton of rushes. He has thirteen.
Of course in college these count for sacks, but to
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subtract the sacks out, he only has twenty rushes on
the year. So he's not to go back to that
one dimensionality. He's not someone who I don't think he's
someone Ohio State. It's gonna feel like they need to
keep the ends, you know, in a contain mode. I
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think that they'll be willing to let the defensive ends
go after him. I don't think this is gonna be
the Washington game. I think you can just go after
all Meyer. And again, despite getting a lot of pressure
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this year, he still has completed almost seventy five percent
of his passes. He still averages over ten yards per attempt,
and he has thrown zero interceptions and twelve touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Ask for really much any better. You're not turning the
ball over fifteen hundred yards. Wow. Yeah, I didn't even
look to see where he's at individually nearly sixteen, but
at nearly sixteen hundred.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yeah, he's a great quarterback. Luke Altmeyer is a great quarterback.
He's a great college that puts him back. I think
he can again. I think he has NFL potential. I
really like lucalt in the country. Yeah, I really like
Luke Altmeyer. I just I think he's I think he's
carrying this team into the top twenty five.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Quite frankly, he's been how many how many times do
you think he's been sacked?
Speaker 1 (12:18):
And nineteen I already said it, yes, nineteen, okay, yeah, nineteen, Yeah,
I already said it's And it's a lot the quarterback.
Their quarterback sack per play percentage is over ten percent,
nearly eleven percent. They're in the bottom set one hundred
and twenty fifth in the country. They're not good at
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protecting Luke Aaltmeyer.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, he's on track to be sacked the most in
his career, which he was sacked at last year thirty
two times, and then his first year at Illinois before
he after he transferred from Ole Miss, he was sacked
thirty four times.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Yeah, I mean, listen, this this team has a very
good passing attack, and I.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
But they got to protect first.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
But I think that's kind of where this ends. I
think Illinois, We've been saying it since the off season,
this team's ever hyped. That the hype on Illinois went
really overboard, and nothing I've seen this year has deviated
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me from from that. They do defeat USC by two
points at the end of September, Worth pointing out that
that was in Illinois. We've talked about and by the way,
that was a nooner. USC played on a nine to
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thirty AM bodyclock. That game, they travel all the way
to Illinois from southern California, play at a bodyclock time
of nine thirty am, and lost by two points. I'm
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just saying if it was in USC, USC would have won.
That game was played in Los Angeles, I think USC
wins that game. They defeat Purdue pretty handily as far
as final score goes, but they still let Purdue score
twenty seven points on them. I think Illinois is Luke
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Altmeyer period. Hank Beatty's a good wide receiver. I'm not
gonna say he isn't. They do have some talented guys
on the defense. I don't want to, but they don't
have eleven talented guys on the defense. Quite frankly, they
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do have a good pair. Here's part of your problem.
They're they're two leading tackers. They're two leading tacklers are safeties.
That's never a good sign. Maybe feels one of your safeties,
feels one of your safeties because he's liking up in
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the box, say where he's like Caleb downs right. Sometimes
one of your safeties might be your leading tackler. But
when both of your leading tacklers or safeties, that's a
bad sign. Yeah. And by the way, also like solo tackles,
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they also both lead the team in solo tackles. I
do think Gabe jackis and I'm probably mispronouncing that name,
he is a very good linebacker. I think he's probably
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the best player on their defense, quite frankly, and again,
their safety has put up a lot of numbers. I
just I don't see this team hanging with Ohio State.
I think, again, Luke Altmeyer's great. I think he's gonna
make some throws. I think he's gonna put together some
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drives that piss off Ohio State fans to go, oh
my god, the defense, Oh my god, what's wrong with
our defense? Because Luke Myers is a very good quarterback.
He is, so they'll be those moments in the game.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
That's yeah, that's that's about just trying. Yeah, I'm just
trying to think what what Illinois needs to do here
because they're not they're not stopping Ohio State's offense from scoring.
They I just I just don't know. I just don't
see it. So Illinois need.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
In passing yards per game. They aren't stopping.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
What does Illinois need to do to try to keep
up with Ohio State?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Never try to run, go full kind of read, get
some turnovers, get some special teams, play like just everything's
got to go right.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
You kind of saw it with Washington a little bit
at the the first quarter and a half. Prevent as
many possessions that you can for Ohio State, and then
you need to capitalize on your possessions. There so nice long,
long drives that they capitalize on it. So I think
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they they're going to have to run. Yeah, I think
that's probably going to be the key thing, is slowing
the game down. Ahio State's averaging I think it's like
seven and a half possessions a game. You make them
have like six possessions in this game here. That's I
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think that's what Illinois needs to do here. And the
question is going to come down to then can they
can they score and can they not get into the
red zone when scoring.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
The problem with that plan is that they don't have
a run game to control and eat clock. Uh huh agree, Yeah,
that that's that's the problem, and.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
The Illinois will have to they need they need to
run a twelve personnel. They really need to run a
twelve per so now to protect Meyer.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
And Okay, but then you're handicapping your passing game.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
If that means you give in your quarterback more time
to pass, that's two.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
That that's the problem. I don't think there's Yeah, that's
the problem.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Or maybe they need to they need to run and
they need to run a O two then.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
They Yeah, Spike says, they probably need to stay out
of the red zone offensively. Yeah, if you if you
stay out of first and goal, if you're Illinois.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
No running, no running backs, two tight ends.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
If you're Illinois, do everything you can to not go
first and goal. Don't do it.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
If you don't get inside the twenty. I mean, that's
why I said that score. I know the red zone,
the zone.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
I know the red zone is technically the twenty yard line.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I know.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
But just like, don't go first in goal if you
get inside the twenty, only take shots at the end zone.
And I'm not kidding, I'm not joking. This is not
tongue in cheek. I'm being dead ass serious. Just start
chucking it in the end zone if you get inside
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or near the twenty mm hmm. Don't try and play
first and goal against Ohio State. You will lose.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Protect your quarterback, protect your neck, say some prayers. Jeremiah
Smith's coming to town. I don't know what to tell.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
You, all right, anything else, anything else to cover here?
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Speaker 1 (22:14):
All right, Kyle, We've got to know our enemy. That
means it's time for.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Some sloop sayers. First up Ohio State player to watch
in this matchup?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Kaled Downs, period.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
That is the correct answer.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Are you also saying Kale Downs, Because if you are,
I'll say Kaiden Curry. Uh no, pick, I'll pick somebody different,
is it Kaden Curry.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Curry?
Speaker 3 (22:46):
No?
Speaker 1 (22:46):
You just got you got to neutralize Luke Altmeyer. That's
I mean, that's what it boils down to.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I'll pick the captain. Give me the block o Sony styles.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
It looks like pick one of the line pick one
of the linebackers, spikes ones. They're playing exceptional right now.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Oh sorry, the.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Best Ohio state pair of linebackers since h since like
since Laurenidas and Darren Lee.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Lauren Nightis and Darren Lee.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I'm sorry, not Darrenly. I'm sorry. Yeah, since like the
days of like Laurenidas or even.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
You're thinking like Hawk Carpenter Hawk. Yeah, although National Championship
linebackers were also nasty with Darren Lee among others. Yeah, man,
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I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
I that was a nasty tree two thousand and that
two thousand and five with yeah Hawk Carpenter, Schlegel, Schlegel, Yeah,
it's it's that Fircus Freeman was a freshman that year. Yeah,
it was.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Yeah, and then the national Yeah, anyway, we're not talking
about they're not.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
The best best since the best since then.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
The National Championship crew was really the twenty fourteen crew
was really good too. Anyway, Kyle, we need to focus
on the task at hand. Enemy player to watch.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Is Luke Altmeyer period done to Luke Altmeyer. Yes, it's
I'm not even going to try to pick somebody else.
It's Luke att Meyer a key matchup. It's honestly, it's
it's the defensive line for a house state and and
the past protection for for Illinois. If Illinois can give
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him time and the wide receiver to give the wide
receivers time to get open, because the I mean, it's
it's just how it is. You give him more time.
It's it is very hard from a from a defensive
back to cover someone for for something over five seconds.
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It's just so difficult. I don't care how good you are.
It is so tough to to guess which direction a
receiver is going to go. So can Illinoi's line and
tight ends give enough time for Altmyer.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
On the flip side of that, if the defense backs
can in fact give the defensive line an extra second,
second and a half, maybe even two, Alt Buyer is
gonna get sacked all day. So I'll go with Ohio
States defensive backs versus Illinois wide receivers.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Okay, all right? The spread in this one, Jared is
seventeen and a half point fifteen fifteen, And what is it?
I wonder what is it?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Right now? The CBS locked it in at fifteen for
our webpics. Has it moved at all?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
I am looking it up. If you give me.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
I'm giving you seconds. I'm getting you I'll give you three.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
One. Oh wow, that is holy crap. That that that
gave me, That gave me basketball. Why are you giving
me basketball?
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Because why would you be interested in Illinois football? Of course,
why would you used in high state basketball?
Speaker 2 (27:06):
It is now fourteen and a half.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Moved in that direction.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
As we're speaking right now, fourteen and a half.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Why would it move in that direction? People are dumb.
I say it's this is gonna be a ramshackle. I
don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yeah, clearly not enough?
Speaker 1 (27:28):
All right, spread pick Ohio State fifteen and a half.
You can tell by the way Kyle and I are talking,
or maybe you saw during the sloop picks during collegiate
chaos on Wednesday that we don't think fifteen and a
half is near enough. We both take Ohio State to win.
We both take Ohio State to cover. Kyle, do you
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have a final score prediction?
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yes, I was actually pulling up my calculator here. I
have oh Ohio State forty two. H State will give
up their first double digit score forty two to ten.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
He did it, guys, I did do it.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yes, I did. Jared score score.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
My score is actually a combination of your final score
and Spike's final score. Uh, he says forty two to six.
Down in the chat where I thought didn't you say
forty Oh I thought you said forty five? Never mind,
I am taking forty five points to six.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Forty five to six, all right, all right, cool, al right,
And last up here, Jared is Austin's over unders. So
he has Meyer's total yards at two hundred and two
point five. Who who those sacks? Maybe those sacks coming
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into play here? Two hundred and two and a half.
And he says total yards, not passing yards, total yards, Yeah,
uh passing. Little Austin's a little sneaky here.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
He's a sneaky little guy for what it's worth. His
He's only lost despite losing one hundred and thirty four
yards via sacks.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Oh he crap, he has, hasn't he? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (29:40):
His total rushing yards is only minus eight, so he
can still get a little bit on the ground here
there every once.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
In a while he can't. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
I wouldn't call him a big running threat, but you
know he uh passes for about two seventy five five
a game, and that's against a lot of bad defenses
against Ohio States. I think that number nine will come
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down the seventy five yards. I'm gonna go under.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I'm gonna go over. I'll go over on this one here.
They're not they're gonna get down and they're gonna need
to pass. They're not gonna they're not gonna be able
to run. So because they need to pass, he's going
to get He's going to get his yards, so.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
He's also going to I also think he's gonna get
sacked a few times, which will work against that.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yeah. Sacked twice against Purdue, once against USC and seven
times against Indiana. Yeah, all right, downs and Atkinson at Atkinson.
I can't talk impact plays at three and a half.
So impact pay plays, uh, sack, tackle for loss, interception, force, fumble,
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fumble recovery. Yeah, Hasse hasn't really done a lot when
it comes to turnovers, so tackle for loss in sacks here,
I'm gonna go under. I'm gonna go under here.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
The problem with this is that Atkinson hasn't been in
on a lot of run plays because I think TFLs
are if you get over on this, I think you
know you're gonna need some TFLs. Atkinson hasn't been like
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the primary guy during rundowns. I don't think Downs will
be playing up a lot this game. I don't think
this is a game where you need Caleb Downs down
in the box. So I don't see him getting a
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lot of TFLs. Things like interceptions are just in fumble
force fumbles and fumble recoveries are just unpredictable and can't
be counted on. So I'll go under. Okay, all right,
I don't do those anyway we might dis I mean,
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and for what it's worth, Illinois does not turn the
ball over.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
All right, Next one here, Tate plus JJ plus Innes
touchdown to two and a half. I'll go over with
this one.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Yeah, I'll go over again. Illinois one hundred and nineteenth
in the country passing yards per game against two and
three quarters yards per game they allow through the air against. Again,
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not great competition.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Yeah, let's see Illinois third down conversion percentage thirty five
and a half. Mentioned earlier, They are seventy ninth in
the country at thirty seven and a half percent on
third down conversions, while Ohio State is third best in
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the country of letting up nineteen point six percent of
third down conversions. Yikes under Yeah, yeah, push that button
a few times. There's the spikes under Lambeau. Total yards
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set at one hundred and thirteen and a.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Half Illinois, Uh, does give up a lot of rushing yards.
The question here is how how how many? How many touches?
Is is? Is bo gonna get.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Great? Question that I gotta go question, I gotta go. Yeah,
I gotta go under, just statistically with.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
He hasn't how he hasn't caught a lot of balls yet.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
No, Yeah, I'm going to go under as much as
I want to say as much as I want to
say over.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Okay, if this I would for this, for me to
go over on, this would need to be more like
ninety I think I think I would take the over
like ninety maybe eighty five. Sure, one thirteen feels too
high for me.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Tight end receptions for both teams and nine and a half.
I don't think they throw it to their tight ends
that often. From what I they're here.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Yeah, they're leading receiver has five receptions on they're leading
receiving tight end if that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Ends they both they both have five, yeah, so that's
then they also have a third one with one. So
they have eleven receptions so far this year throughout five games.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
And if they have tight ends on the field, it'll
probably be to help protect Altmeyer. So I expect very
very little from them. So the question then becomes, ken
Ohio State get nine ten receptions from their tight ends?
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Probably not Illinois. Illinois would be about three and a
half receptions to their tight ends. That's way too many,
and Ohio State would be like five and a half.
So I feel like.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
You're I think your highest state number is great. I
think your Illinois number is too high. And yet you're
still under yes, under all.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Right, and stand passing yards at two hundred and fifty six.
And however, give me the over over over over over
over all right, all right, that is it. That is
it for Austin's over unders, as we are over on time,
as his tradition, we're pretty good, so we'll we'll go
(36:29):
ahead and wrap it up right there.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Yeah, uh, Austin, we just got done with your overs
and your unders. Don't ask us to recap what they were,
because I don't remember. We we disagreed on at least one.
I will say that we did. It's okay, you don't
(36:53):
have to take notes. We record these. It's fine. Yeah,
that's it. That's the show hall. Do you ever think
of Colle corner.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Black Stripe Alert? Jared and I know this will be
released a few days later so everybody will know, But
we got a new black stripe alert, and that is
the kid from Ohio, tav in Saint Clair.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
From his bel Stripe Fountain, Ohio.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Belle Fountains, as you guys like to say up there,
Belle Fountain, just Belle Fountain. Uh huh sure, we always
we always say Belle Fountain. Just just for the for
the sheets and googles.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
That's fair. But also you just kind of like it.
I mean, let's be honest, man.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
That's the first black stripe in quite a while. It's
like three weeks. No, that's yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
I didn't come off that frequently during the season. I
don't think typically, Well.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
There's there's been about six or seven.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
All right, anything else in college.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
That's it. That's all I got.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
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How are you doing to takout.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Right, Jared? How are you doing good?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Doing good?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Doing good?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
You just got done uh filming slash recording Cleegiate Chaos,
which means it's not to know your enemy?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
This this this gay, This game feels like it would
have been a lot bigger hand Illinois not been ramshackled
by Indiana. This feels like it could have been a
top ten matchup. This feels like it could have had
a ton of hype, maybe gotten game day to go
(01:18):
out to Champagne. Has that ever happened before? I don't
know this. This feels like it could have been much bigger,
much much bigger than than it has turned out to be.
(01:39):
But we we we got our we got our friend
Bert here with us. So, h, Kyle, is it time
to get to know our enemies?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yes, sir, let's let's get to know illin noy Ill
game being played, game being played in Champagne fifteen and
a half point favor for the Buckeyes here.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, we talked a little bit about that on know
your enemy or excuse me, this is your enemy? On
Collegiate Chaos I guess maybe just to jump right to it,
I don't think that's enough points. Personally speaking, I expected
the line to be more like twenty one and a half,
(02:27):
maybe twenty and a half. I wass I was surprised
it came in in the teens. That's that's my own
take on it. Don't take that as advice unless you
want to. But if you do, don't blame me. This
team crushed Western Illinois. It's an FCS team. Who cares
(02:49):
they crushed Duke. We didn't necessarily know what to do
with that information.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
We didn't know who Duke was side died first in
the acc.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
It's not saying a lot. They put a whooping on
Western Michigan. What does that really mean? Then the Indiana
game came, and that game had a lot of hype
around it. I believe Illinois was top ten at the time.
(03:24):
Kyle and I never bought into Illinois as much as
a lot of the Big ten media did.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
The hip to be good.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
They're going to be good, yeah, I mean like, I
like Luke Altmeyer. I think he's a very competent quarterback.
I think he's gonna piss off some Ohio State fans
on Saturday on a couple of drives. But here, here's
what happened with Illinois.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
The hype.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
The hype got too big. And what I don't mean
that like the hype got to Illinois and they thought
they were all and that's not what I'm saying. I'm
this is strictly about the media. It started with, Hey, look,
Illinois kind of has a favorable schedule. They have a
senior team, a favorable schedule. Illinois could be really involved
(04:22):
with the you know, maybe gett into the Big Ten
title game with this favorable schedule and a pretty senior team,
and Luke Altmeyer's pretty good. They got a good quarterback.
A couple of people say that, a few people say that,
then a lot of people are saying it. So now
you get this little bit of hype and it kind
(04:43):
of grows into not a hot take anymore. Now it's
just kind of the standard opinion. And the people who
got in early and some were some of the first
people who were like hyping up the possibility that Illinois
could be a player in the Big Ten this year,
(05:05):
they started doubling down and in the hype grew from oh,
they have a pretty favorable schedule and a pretty good
team to all of a sudden, like, hey, actually, Illinois
is pretty damn good, you guys, actually not. Oh and
now everyone's saying they're pretty damn good. Okay, actually they're great.
Actually they could challenge Ohio State and Oregon and Penn
(05:28):
State on the field. This is the myth of Illinois.
You just sort of watched its snowball through the preseason
and and the hype got out of control. Sure, sure,
in my opinion, Illinois sitting here at where do they
rank right now? Seventeenth? That feels about right for this team.
(05:54):
Maybe even still a little inflated if I'm being honest.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yeah, this this team. For looking at the stats here, Uh,
they've been putting a point again grant who they've played,
Western Illinois, Western Michigan, Purdue. They've put up points, but
they've they they did put up the points that they
(06:22):
that they're we thought that they should. They've also been
letting up twenty fifth though, no, it's getting there, twenty
fifth in the country, thirty. They're scoring thirty four points
a game. They're sixteenth in the country at points per play,
So they're they're That tells me that they're scoring points
(06:42):
in and doing it efficiently. Where else are they doing well?
Passing yards per pass number four in the country, ten
point five yards per pass.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
That's really good. But yeah, but they that's per past attempt.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, but they are one and third in the country
and rushing yards and one hundred and thirteenth at rushing yards
per rush at three point three yards per rush. Against
Western Illinois, against Duke, against Western Michigan, well, I don't
think they counted Western Illinois. But against Western Michigan and Purdue,
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you're only averaging three point three yards per rush. That
I don't don't think. I don't think. No matter what
you're good or bad in, it doesn't matter against how
house these defenses look. But you're making yourself. You're putting
yourself into being more white, one dimensional and passing. You
(07:42):
know how a state can be Like, all right, sure, sure,
go ahead and do that. I don't think it's going
to bold well. And then on the opposite side, defensively,
bottom half, near the bottom, and most of the major
categories here near the bottom end. Yards let up per
game near the bottom, passing yards per game, seventy second,
(08:07):
in rushing yards per game, averaging just under five yards
per carry and they're letting it forty five percent on
third downs defensively two when aus State is near the top,
or actually I think the hour number one in third
down percentage wit in surprise. Yeah, High State offense, I
(08:32):
think should be it should be like a hot, hot
knife through butter in this matchup.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah. And not only and like to go back to
Illinois offense for a second, Not only are they one
dimensional when it comes to passing. And I like Luke Altmeyer.
I think he's a talented quarterback. I think he has
NFL potential. I think he'll be one of those guys
(09:03):
who's better in the NFL than he was in college.
Quite frankly, coming out.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Of a career high against against Purdue, he he threw
for three hundred and ninety yards. Yeah, in this one,
three hundred ninety yards, one touchdown, pretty accurate. Night. He
completed nineteen pass He was nineteen for twenty two, nineteen
passes for three hundred ninety yards. A lot of does
that tells me that they're going deep in and they
(09:31):
were hitting those right and Hot State is near the
top and not letting up those big, big.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Plays, right, and but you know, back to Altmeyer. He
and I'm not is this is this a hymn thing
or is this an offensive line thing? Is not a
topic I want to get into right now. But he
takes a lot of sacks. He's been sacked nineteen times
(10:02):
already this season. Does Altmeyer do any run option? Looks
he does not have a ton of rushes. He has thirteen.
Of course in college these count for sacks, but to
(10:23):
subtract the sacks out, he only has twenty rushes on
the year. So he's not to go back to that
one dimensionality. He's not someone who I don't think he's
someone Ohio State. It's gonna feel like they need to
keep the ends, you know, in a contain mode. I
(10:46):
think that they'll be willing to let the defensive ends
go after him. I don't think this is gonna be
the Washington game. I think you can just go after
all Meyer. And again, despite getting a lot of pressure
(11:09):
this year, he still has completed almost seventy five percent
of his passes. He still averages over ten yards per attempt,
and he has thrown zero interceptions and twelve touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Ask for really much any better. You're not turning the
ball over fifteen hundred yards. Wow. Yeah, I didn't even
look to see where he's at individually nearly sixteen, but
at nearly sixteen hundred.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yeah, he's a great quarterback. Luke Altmeyer is a great quarterback.
He's a great college that puts him back. I think
he can again. I think he has NFL potential. I
really like lucalt in the country. Yeah, I really like
Luke Altmeyer. I just I think he's I think he's
carrying this team into the top twenty five.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Quite frankly, he's been how many how many times do
you think he's been sacked?
Speaker 1 (12:18):
And nineteen I already said it, yes, nineteen, okay, yeah, nineteen, Yeah,
I already said it's And it's a lot the quarterback.
Their quarterback sack per play percentage is over ten percent,
nearly eleven percent. They're in the bottom set one hundred
and twenty fifth in the country. They're not good at
(12:42):
protecting Luke Aaltmeyer.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, he's on track to be sacked the most in
his career, which he was sacked at last year thirty
two times, and then his first year at Illinois before
he after he transferred from Ole Miss, he was sacked
thirty four times.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Yeah, I mean, listen, this this team has a very
good passing attack, and I.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
But they got to protect first.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
But I think that's kind of where this ends. I
think Illinois, We've been saying it since the off season,
this team's ever hyped. That the hype on Illinois went
really overboard, and nothing I've seen this year has deviated
(13:43):
me from from that. They do defeat USC by two
points at the end of September, Worth pointing out that
that was in Illinois. We've talked about and by the way,
that was a nooner. USC played on a nine to
(14:08):
thirty AM bodyclock. That game, they travel all the way
to Illinois from southern California, play at a bodyclock time
of nine thirty am, and lost by two points. I'm
(14:29):
just saying if it was in USC, USC would have won.
That game was played in Los Angeles, I think USC
wins that game. They defeat Purdue pretty handily as far
as final score goes, but they still let Purdue score
twenty seven points on them. I think Illinois is Luke
(14:50):
Altmeyer period. Hank Beatty's a good wide receiver. I'm not
gonna say he isn't. They do have some talented guys
on the defense. I don't want to, but they don't
have eleven talented guys on the defense. Quite frankly, they
(15:13):
do have a good pair. Here's part of your problem.
They're they're two leading tackers. They're two leading tacklers are safeties.
That's never a good sign. Maybe feels one of your safeties,
feels one of your safeties because he's liking up in
(15:36):
the box, say where he's like Caleb downs right. Sometimes
one of your safeties might be your leading tackler. But
when both of your leading tacklers or safeties, that's a
bad sign. Yeah. And by the way, also like solo tackles,
(15:58):
they also both lead the team in solo tackles. I
do think Gabe jackis and I'm probably mispronouncing that name,
he is a very good linebacker. I think he's probably
(16:24):
the best player on their defense, quite frankly, and again,
their safety has put up a lot of numbers. I
just I don't see this team hanging with Ohio State.
I think, again, Luke Altmeyer's great. I think he's gonna
make some throws. I think he's gonna put together some
(16:46):
drives that piss off Ohio State fans to go, oh
my god, the defense, Oh my god, what's wrong with
our defense? Because Luke Myers is a very good quarterback.
He is, so they'll be those moments in the game.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
That's yeah, that's that's about just trying. Yeah, I'm just
trying to think what what Illinois needs to do here
because they're not they're not stopping Ohio State's offense from scoring.
They I just I just don't know. I just don't
see it. So Illinois need.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
In passing yards per game. They aren't stopping.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
What does Illinois need to do to try to keep
up with Ohio State?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Never try to run, go full kind of read, get
some turnovers, get some special teams, play like just everything's
got to go right.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
You kind of saw it with Washington a little bit
at the the first quarter and a half. Prevent as
many possessions that you can for Ohio State, and then
you need to capitalize on your possessions. There so nice long,
long drives that they capitalize on it. So I think
(18:09):
they they're going to have to run. Yeah, I think
that's probably going to be the key thing, is slowing
the game down. Ahio State's averaging I think it's like
seven and a half possessions a game. You make them
have like six possessions in this game here. That's I
(18:29):
think that's what Illinois needs to do here. And the
question is going to come down to then can they
can they score and can they not get into the
red zone when scoring.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
The problem with that plan is that they don't have
a run game to control and eat clock. Uh huh agree, Yeah,
that that's that's the problem, and.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
The Illinois will have to they need they need to
run a twelve personnel. They really need to run a
twelve per so now to protect Meyer.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
And Okay, but then you're handicapping your passing game.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
If that means you give in your quarterback more time
to pass, that's two.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
That that's the problem. I don't think there's Yeah, that's
the problem.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Or maybe they need to they need to run and
they need to run a O two then.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
They Yeah, Spike says, they probably need to stay out
of the red zone offensively. Yeah, if you if you
stay out of first and goal, if you're Illinois.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
No running, no running backs, two tight ends.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
If you're Illinois, do everything you can to not go
first and goal. Don't do it.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
If you don't get inside the twenty. I mean, that's
why I said that score. I know the red zone,
the zone.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
I know the red zone is technically the twenty yard line.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I know.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
But just like, don't go first in goal if you
get inside the twenty, only take shots at the end zone.
And I'm not kidding, I'm not joking. This is not
tongue in cheek. I'm being dead ass serious. Just start
chucking it in the end zone if you get inside
(20:23):
or near the twenty mm hmm. Don't try and play
first and goal against Ohio State. You will lose.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Protect your quarterback, protect your neck, say some prayers. Jeremiah
Smith's coming to town. I don't know what to tell.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
You, all right, anything else, anything else to cover here?
Now we're little over in time, so we're gonna we'll
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Speaker 1 (22:14):
All right, Kyle, We've got to know our enemy. That
means it's time for.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Some sloop sayers. First up Ohio State player to watch
in this matchup?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Kaled Downs, period.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
That is the correct answer.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Are you also saying Kale Downs, Because if you are,
I'll say Kaiden Curry. Uh no, pick, I'll pick somebody different,
is it Kaden Curry.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Curry?
Speaker 3 (22:46):
No?
Speaker 1 (22:46):
You just got you got to neutralize Luke Altmeyer. That's
I mean, that's what it boils down to.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I'll pick the captain. Give me the block o Sony styles.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
It looks like pick one of the line pick one
of the linebackers, spikes ones. They're playing exceptional right now.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Oh sorry, the.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Best Ohio state pair of linebackers since h since like
since Laurenidas and Darren Lee.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Lauren Nightis and Darren Lee.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I'm sorry, not Darrenly. I'm sorry. Yeah, since like the
days of like Laurenidas or even.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
You're thinking like Hawk Carpenter Hawk. Yeah, although National Championship
linebackers were also nasty with Darren Lee among others. Yeah, man,
(24:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
I that was a nasty tree two thousand and that
two thousand and five with yeah Hawk Carpenter, Schlegel, Schlegel, Yeah,
it's it's that Fircus Freeman was a freshman that year. Yeah,
it was.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Yeah, and then the national Yeah, anyway, we're not talking
about they're not.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
The best best since the best since then.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
The National Championship crew was really the twenty fourteen crew
was really good too. Anyway, Kyle, we need to focus
on the task at hand. Enemy player to watch.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Is Luke Altmeyer period done to Luke Altmeyer. Yes, it's
I'm not even going to try to pick somebody else.
It's Luke att Meyer a key matchup. It's honestly, it's
it's the defensive line for a house state and and
the past protection for for Illinois. If Illinois can give
(25:21):
him time and the wide receiver to give the wide
receivers time to get open, because the I mean, it's
it's just how it is. You give him more time.
It's it is very hard from a from a defensive
back to cover someone for for something over five seconds.
(25:41):
It's just so difficult. I don't care how good you are.
It is so tough to to guess which direction a
receiver is going to go. So can Illinoi's line and
tight ends give enough time for Altmyer.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
On the flip side of that, if the defense backs
can in fact give the defensive line an extra second,
second and a half, maybe even two, Alt Buyer is
gonna get sacked all day. So I'll go with Ohio
States defensive backs versus Illinois wide receivers.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Okay, all right? The spread in this one, Jared is
seventeen and a half point fifteen fifteen, And what is it?
I wonder what is it?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Right now? The CBS locked it in at fifteen for
our webpics. Has it moved at all?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
I am looking it up. If you give me.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
I'm giving you seconds. I'm getting you I'll give you three.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
One. Oh wow, that is holy crap. That that that
gave me, That gave me basketball. Why are you giving
me basketball?
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Because why would you be interested in Illinois football? Of course,
why would you used in high state basketball?
Speaker 2 (27:06):
It is now fourteen and a half.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Moved in that direction.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
As we're speaking right now, fourteen and a half.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Why would it move in that direction? People are dumb.
I say it's this is gonna be a ramshackle. I
don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yeah, clearly not enough?
Speaker 1 (27:28):
All right, spread pick Ohio State fifteen and a half.
You can tell by the way Kyle and I are talking,
or maybe you saw during the sloop picks during collegiate
chaos on Wednesday that we don't think fifteen and a
half is near enough. We both take Ohio State to win.
We both take Ohio State to cover. Kyle, do you
(27:51):
have a final score prediction?
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yes, I was actually pulling up my calculator here. I
have oh Ohio State forty two. H State will give
up their first double digit score forty two to ten.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
He did it, guys, I did do it.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yes, I did. Jared score score.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
My score is actually a combination of your final score
and Spike's final score. Uh, he says forty two to six.
Down in the chat where I thought didn't you say
forty Oh I thought you said forty five? Never mind,
I am taking forty five points to six.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Forty five to six, all right, all right, cool, al right,
And last up here, Jared is Austin's over unders. So
he has Meyer's total yards at two hundred and two
point five. Who who those sacks? Maybe those sacks coming
(29:10):
into play here? Two hundred and two and a half.
And he says total yards, not passing yards, total yards, Yeah,
uh passing. Little Austin's a little sneaky here.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
He's a sneaky little guy for what it's worth. His
He's only lost despite losing one hundred and thirty four
yards via sacks.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Oh he crap, he has, hasn't he? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (29:40):
His total rushing yards is only minus eight, so he
can still get a little bit on the ground here
there every once.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
In a while he can't. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
I wouldn't call him a big running threat, but you
know he uh passes for about two seventy five five
a game, and that's against a lot of bad defenses
against Ohio States. I think that number nine will come
(30:11):
down the seventy five yards. I'm gonna go under.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I'm gonna go over. I'll go over on this one here.
They're not they're gonna get down and they're gonna need
to pass. They're not gonna they're not gonna be able
to run. So because they need to pass, he's going
to get He's going to get his yards, so.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
He's also going to I also think he's gonna get
sacked a few times, which will work against that.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yeah. Sacked twice against Purdue, once against USC and seven
times against Indiana. Yeah, all right, downs and Atkinson at Atkinson.
I can't talk impact plays at three and a half.
So impact pay plays, uh, sack, tackle for loss, interception, force, fumble,
(31:12):
fumble recovery. Yeah, Hasse hasn't really done a lot when
it comes to turnovers, so tackle for loss in sacks here,
I'm gonna go under. I'm gonna go under here.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
The problem with this is that Atkinson hasn't been in
on a lot of run plays because I think TFLs
are if you get over on this, I think you
know you're gonna need some TFLs. Atkinson hasn't been like
(31:51):
the primary guy during rundowns. I don't think Downs will
be playing up a lot this game. I don't think
this is a game where you need Caleb Downs down
in the box. So I don't see him getting a
(32:12):
lot of TFLs. Things like interceptions are just in fumble
force fumbles and fumble recoveries are just unpredictable and can't
be counted on. So I'll go under. Okay, all right,
I don't do those anyway we might dis I mean,
(32:34):
and for what it's worth, Illinois does not turn the
ball over.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
All right, Next one here, Tate plus JJ plus Innes
touchdown to two and a half. I'll go over with
this one.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Yeah, I'll go over again. Illinois one hundred and nineteenth
in the country passing yards per game against two and
three quarters yards per game they allow through the air against. Again,
(33:09):
not great competition.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Yeah, let's see Illinois third down conversion percentage thirty five
and a half. Mentioned earlier, They are seventy ninth in
the country at thirty seven and a half percent on
third down conversions, while Ohio State is third best in
(33:33):
the country of letting up nineteen point six percent of
third down conversions. Yikes under Yeah, yeah, push that button
a few times. There's the spikes under Lambeau. Total yards
(33:55):
set at one hundred and thirteen and a.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Half Illinois, Uh, does give up a lot of rushing yards.
The question here is how how how many? How many touches?
Is is? Is bo gonna get.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Great? Question that I gotta go question, I gotta go. Yeah,
I gotta go under, just statistically with.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
He hasn't how he hasn't caught a lot of balls yet.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
No, Yeah, I'm going to go under as much as
I want to say as much as I want to
say over.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Okay, if this I would for this, for me to
go over on, this would need to be more like
ninety I think I think I would take the over
like ninety maybe eighty five. Sure, one thirteen feels too
high for me.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Tight end receptions for both teams and nine and a half.
I don't think they throw it to their tight ends
that often. From what I they're here.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Yeah, they're leading receiver has five receptions on they're leading
receiving tight end if that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Ends they both they both have five, yeah, so that's
then they also have a third one with one. So
they have eleven receptions so far this year throughout five games.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
And if they have tight ends on the field, it'll
probably be to help protect Altmeyer. So I expect very
very little from them. So the question then becomes, ken
Ohio State get nine ten receptions from their tight ends?
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Probably not Illinois. Illinois would be about three and a
half receptions to their tight ends. That's way too many,
and Ohio State would be like five and a half.
So I feel like.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
You're I think your highest state number is great. I
think your Illinois number is too high. And yet you're
still under yes, under all.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Right, and stand passing yards at two hundred and fifty six.
And however, give me the over over over over over
over all right, all right, that is it. That is
it for Austin's over unders, as we are over on time,
as his tradition, we're pretty good, so we'll we'll go
(36:29):
ahead and wrap it up right there.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Yeah, uh, Austin, we just got done with your overs
and your unders. Don't ask us to recap what they were,
because I don't remember. We we disagreed on at least one.
I will say that we did. It's okay, you don't
(36:53):
have to take notes. We record these. It's fine. Yeah,
that's it. That's the show hall. Do you ever think
of Colle corner.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Black Stripe Alert? Jared and I know this will be
released a few days later so everybody will know, But
we got a new black stripe alert, and that is
the kid from Ohio, tav in Saint Clair.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
From his bel Stripe Fountain, Ohio.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Belle Fountains, as you guys like to say up there,
Belle Fountain, just Belle Fountain. Uh huh sure, we always
we always say Belle Fountain. Just just for the for
the sheets and googles.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
That's fair. But also you just kind of like it.
I mean, let's be honest, man.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
That's the first black stripe in quite a while. It's
like three weeks. No, that's yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
I didn't come off that frequently during the season. I
don't think typically, Well.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
There's there's been about six or seven.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
All right, anything else in college.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
That's it. That's all I got.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
All right.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Tonight's ending music, just like the last two episodes, will
be from Ohio based band called the old breed. So
with all that being said, I like to encourage everyone
to drink local beer, listen to local music, and of
course personal podcasters. Once again, this is the old breed.
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and times way tell you time to follow me an
imagine trade regular making bad start cloud doing our fucking time.
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the mother snow trying to big working that I was
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Boat twenty year the stuffer stuffing wasn't It.
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doing our fucking time? No, we's like a word finding
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a joke or ste step Brough, We're I can bring
it by myself.
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you ask?
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Speaker 1 (40:19):
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