September 11, 2025 • 38 mins
When was the last time Ohio State lost to a MAC school? Trick question, they never have, and this week won’t change that reality. We like Ohio and Parker Navarro, but they are simply outmatched.
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Speaker 1 (00:37):
Echoes up sells a folk. Oh's the subcast? How are
you doing for the coow.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Right, Jared, how are you doing today?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I'm not gonna complain, an I'm what's gonna do it?
It's not gonna complain. No, I confuse to complain. Why
because it's it's September. It's September in Ohio. This is
peak Ohio.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
This is peak Ohio, Ohio, Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I lobbed that up there for you, and I was
really hoping you were going to get it. It was
really hoping you were going to get it. All right, Cale, Bobcats,
Bobcats are coming to town.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
The biggest question think.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Off of a big upset they did.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, they took off their in Athens. They took down
the Mountaineers of West Virginia. Yeah, big win for them.
But the big question here, Jared, Yeah, will the Bobcat
be allowed in Ohio Stadium this year?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I mean, listen, how long ago was that? That was me?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Years ago?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Whoever that, whoever that dude was, isn't a student in
Athens anymore. I mean I don't. Okay, I'm sorry, I
can I'm sorry everybody, But let's let's face reality. For
a moment. There's a person in there. The Bobcat's not
the problem. The Bobcat is a costume. Whoever that person
(02:15):
was was the problem, not not the costume. All right,
we aren't. We aren't arresting Chuck E Cheese here. All right,
let's you know what I'm saying. Now, don't you ever
tell me there's a person in the Brutus costume. In fact,
don't even call it a costume.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
It's brutus.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
It's Brutus Bobcat. However, there's a person in there, Brutus.
There's a person in that Bobcat costume. Brutus.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
All right, let's get to know our enemy. Jared Ohio,
Oh I oh, one thing, one game I hate about this.
What's up on the Peacocks on the Peacock channel or
streaming service at seven o'clock this weekend.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yeah, they got to force you to get that subscription
for at least a month, right, because if they force
you to get the subscription for for one month, then
they're betting that you either keep it or you know,
forget to turn it off. And then they get you
for two months, maybe even three. Don't really notice it,
(03:36):
you know, then all of a sudden, you've paid.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
You paid for two months because.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Hey, you might as well keep it through the end
of the season, just in case, just in case. And
you know that then there's the Royal Rumble, and you
know now you're keeping it through January, and you're like, well,
WrestleMania is not that far away. A mm hmm, still
on Peacock, I don't remember, all right, Bobcats. Let me
(04:10):
let me just let's start off with the Bobcats on
this I I I legitimately like Parker Navarro. I think
he's a very good quarterback.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Hence to turn the ball over. I mean, he's got
a kind of double edged sword.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
He's I mean, let's let's let's keep in mind the
team he plays for, and he sometimes is put into
a position where he needs to make stuff happen. You know,
he still does play for the Bobcats, who, as far
as Max standards go, it is a good team this year.
I think Kyle and I were talking before we started recording,
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where he was telling me that, well, who was it, Kyle,
one of the Michigans was less likely to upset Illinois
than Ohio was to upset.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah, Ohio, Western Michigan.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Western Michigan, one of the directional Michigans, one of them,
one of them. And it's just like, well, that's there's more.
It says more about Ohio versus Directional Michigan than it
does Ohio State versus Illinois. Not all MAC teams are
made the same, and this is an above average MAC team.
That being said, it's still a MAC team. Yeah, they
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upset Western Virginia, but in Ohio State, it's not West Virginia.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
They almost speat Rutgers in week in week one, lost
by three points.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Almost, they almost.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Oh Most beat Rutgers almost. And this is why, and
this is why Vegas has Ohio State as a thirty
two and a half point favorite, twenty point less, twenty
three points less than in Ohio State versus Grambling State.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, and I believe the line opened like thirty five
or thirty six, So it's actually even come down a bit,
which means that you know, a lot of money is
going on Ohio.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yeah, I guess depends on where you looked at. Yeah,
the one I was looked at, it's stayed the same. Well,
it's actually down to thirty one and a half. But
depending upon me, either right, we're locked at thirty two
and a half.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
So, yeah, we already told you and Collegiate Chaos that
we are both taking Ohio State with the points. Obviously
we both think Ohio State's gonna win this game. That's
not a shock. And the thirty two points I think
con I are both comfortable with. But I do like
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this Ohio team. They are they would destroy Graham Blin.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
And you know, let's take a moment and again, it's
only two games. Granted it's only two games, but they
were two games against Power four opponents. Were they good
Power four opponents? No, they weren't. West Virginia is not
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challenging for the Big twelve this year, and Rutgers isn't
challenging for the Big ten this year. But theoretically they
should have been outclassed points per game twenty four to
twenty two yards per game, gaming four thirty four, giving
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up three to twenty four yards per play six offensively
five point four. Defensively, their net positive and passing yards
not yards per pass, but their positive you know, offensive defense,
and rushing yards running and including yards per rush. Kyle,
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They're currently running four point eight per running attempt.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
That helps. It helps that with Navarro rushing the ball
twenty seven times and averaging six point seven per carry, Yeah,
for sure.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
So it's gonna be one of those types of games
where you're gonna see the quarterback running a lot. As
Kyle said, he does have a bit of a turnover issue.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, in the last game against West Virginia, he threw
three interceptions, which the those are the only three turnovers
for for Ohio this year.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
And uh, third down percentage Kyle forty one percent offensively,
which is pretty good. That is, yeah, defensively allowing only
twelve percent conversion.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
That's really good.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
That that got me kind of curious. I'm good to
see if I can look it up, Kyle, look it
up real quick, Like, what what do you think Ohio
State is for for third down? For their third down conversions.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Offensively or defensively?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Actually? Actually, Higo States? Actually is this correct? You know,
let me let me verify before I start saying thing
squid Oh oh that's right, because this doesn't take in
consideration fcs right teams.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Right right, right right, so it would only be Texas.
So the numbers aren't going to look great. Yeah, yeah,
I just I like their defense. I like Parker and Navarro.
I think Chase Hendricks is a good wide receiver. I
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think they have a lot to offer as a team.
Are they gonna beat Ohio State? Now? Would they beat Texas? Now?
Would they be bottom half in the Big Ten? Yes?
But they almost beat Rutgers and they would destroy Grambling.
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I think that they will compete in the MAC this year.
I think they're one of the one two I'd say
one of the top two teams in the MAC this year.
Maybe three, but but it's still the MAC. This is
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a pretty good MAC team, still a MAC team. This
is this is they have an above average quarterback. They
have They have a quarterback capable of making a lot
of plays, both good and bad. But you know, he's
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he's one of those types of guys. If you get
the wrong Parker Navarro on any given Saturday, you might
be in trouble, unless you're a highest state, in which
case you'll probably be fine. If you're West Virginia and
you get the wrong Parker Navarro, you're in trouble. And
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even if Parker tomorrow isn't necessarily if you get the
wrong Parker Navarro it's still going to cause some frustration
for Ohio State fans. I'm not saying the Ohio is
going to beat Ohio State. That's just not gonna happen. Kyle.
(12:17):
We talked about this in the Discord Server today. When
was the last time a MAX school beat Ohio State?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Question?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
It's kind of it's a trick question.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
It is a trick question. A MAC school, Yeah, a
team that was in the MAC at the time.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, zero zero. They has never happened. Now that being said,
Ohio State has lost to Akron like over one hundred
years ago, back in eighteen ninety something, but.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
They weren't called Akron.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
They weren't even called Akron yet there was no MAC,
and of course Akron wouldn't even join the MAC until
nineteen ninety four or something like that, ninety two ninety three.
It was during that big upheaval. Point is is that
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it's technically never happened. Along those same lines, Ohio State
did lose the Cincinnati at one point, and Cincinnati was
in the MAC at one point, so.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
You know, but not at the time. Now, that's where
there was kind of a yeah, So.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, that's Ohio State's never lost to a MAC school,
and it's not It's not going to change on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Nope.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
But I do like Ohio for Max school. That that
that's what this boils down to. I like parking. I
like their defense, Jack Fries a good pair of linebackers
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with with Fries and Mulner, Donnis Williams Junior is a
good safety.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
I like their linebackers. Their linebackers are seniors and graduates too,
so they got they had a lot of experience with
their linebackers.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Again, very good Max school, yep. But in Max School.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Ohio State is pretty much the same offensive third down
percentage as Ohio. It's like right around right around that,
there's like forty one point seven percent somewhere around.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
There, basically the same defensively.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
It's defensively it's seventeen point eight percent.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Is that with yep? Okay?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
That is with because if you don't take that, if
you just do just the one game, I'll have State
is just twenty five percent third down conversion. And I
think they're lighting up forty five percent on third down.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Okay, all right, anybody, I guess anything else you want
to say in Ohio or do you want to move
on to the second half of the show.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Don't be surprised if Ohio does score here, don't be surprised,
like if they score once twice, I think, I think
obviously it's going to be able to score a lot
of points, Like I's not going to be able to
keep up with points. But if and when Ohio does score, like,
don't don't fret. Don't be like, I can't believe we
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let up points against the max Squints. It's okay, it fine,
It's okay. If they score some points.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Everything will be okay. Yep, anything else before we move
on to the second half the show.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
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Speaker 1 (16:54):
All right, Kyle, all right, Jared, y this need something
to enter it back into the show Ohio State player
to watch here? Do you have?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
You know, I'm just gonna go out of left field
just because have I think it was just a hot
topic for everybody talk about, just because of how well
he did in his first game. And honestly, I don't
think there really is a player to watch in here,
because I think we're gonna still see a lot of
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Buckeye players playing in this game here. Not as much
as a Grambling State, but a lot. Still. I just
have a hunch that we may we may we may
see more more of uh more of our freshman, shiny
freshman running back here Bo Jackson.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
All right, that that is a bit out of left field.
I'm going to stay right in center. I'm gonna stay
directly in centerfield. I'm going Julian saying here, I still
think Ohio States long well, you know, season long fortunes
are very much tied to Julian saying I think he's
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still to me is the biggest question mark on the team.
I saw flashes of what I wanted to see against Texas.
He obviously looked great against Grambling, but Grambling, you know,
at times it was like just playing catch against no
defense at all. He did, of course, throw an interception
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in that game, but it'll be nice to see him
somewhere between. Right, you go from this great Texas defense
to an FCS school, and now I get to see
him somewhere in between those two things. So I think
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it'd be really interesting. What's Julian say in this game?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
All right? Player enemy player to watch here? I think
the obvious answer is Parker Navarro. Yeah, the team's only
going to succeed for how how well he does very
accurate passing the ball. I don't think we covered that part.
Very accurate sixty nine nice point four percent completion for
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the year so far for Navarro, but also rushing the
ball twenty seven twenty seven times for one hundred and
eighty yards and a tuddy as well. Did mention like
he has thrown three interceptions in the last game against
West Virginia. But yeah, it's it's Navarro. My pick is Navarro.
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But I think the other pick you could possibly pick
is maybe their standout receiver at Chase Hendricks, who already
has seventeen catches already for the year in two games.
So that could be another person on the offensive side
that you could pick as well.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
They matchup.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Well, who you got for your enemy player to watch?
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Jared, oh No, I just agreed with you. It's Parker Navarro.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Okay, yeah, uh key matchup. I I'd say it's Navarro
versus versus Hot State linebackers. Gotta you gotta keep you
gotta keep Navarro contained here. He's going to get he's
he he is a runner, He's a very very mobile quarterback.
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He's going to try to make players miss here. So
being able to contain Navarro, So it is. It is
Navarro versus the duo linebackers of Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
I have a very similar answer, Yes, a dual threat,
very similar answer. I'm gonna say, the defensive ends against
Parker Navarro, you gotta keep containment, you got to get
some sacks, you got to create pressure. So we're on
the same wavelength there, but a slightly different, a slightly
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different take. Okay, fair, I am more afraid not. And
this is not to knock Navarro as a thrower of
the ball. It's it's it's that I really like Ohio
State's defensive backs against Ohio's wide receivers, and a scrambler
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is just such a wild card. So specifically in regards
to Ohio State. I'm more afraid of his legs than
his arm.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Fair enough. Two and a half points is the spread
that locked in here. Some have it down to thirty
one and a half, thirty three and a half, but
we we locked it at thirty two and a half.
If you listen to our episode from yesterday, Jared and
I have already hinted at or straight who we picked here.
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Oh yeah, we actually not really hinted, but we did
say who we picked here, and it is a team
in scarlet and gray. It is the Lovin Warriors, brave
and bold, brave and bold. Thank you, Jared. I was
hoping you wouldn't finish that, Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
I didn't know if you were waiting on me or
if you brain farted.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
I was tossing it up to you.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Jared, all right, all right, all right, yeah, thirty two
and a half points is not enough.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Agreed, all right.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Obviously, if we're taking Ohio State with the points, we're
also taking Ohio State to win, so that's the winner. Pick, Kyle,
do you have a final score?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I have Ohio State with the score forty five to seven.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
I'm getting forty nine to seven. I think Ryan Day
is done with field goals. I think if he can
choose not to kick a field goal, he's gonna choose
not to kick a field goal. Yeah, so I'm gonna
go forty nine.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Right, forty nine to seven, forty five seven in all senses,
forty eight three. All right.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
New Year's Eve twenty twenty three fucked him up, and
that's fair, honestly fucked field goals. This isn't the NFL.
Don't get touchdown.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Quick all right, quickly here we're gonna do. We're gonna
do some awesome since Austin's in the in the chat,
here some Austin over under his real quick here, Jared. Yeah, uh,
first off, Navarro total yards two hundred and four and
a half yards over. So this is going to be
I'm not even hesitating. Yeah, this is gonna be passing,
totally running over over. I'm not I'm not hesitating on that.
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It's it is over Ohio State. Sacks given up.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
The one thing that considers up on that first one
is if he gets like popped and hurt.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
But sure, regardless, sack Sacks given up one and a
half under. I'll take the under from what I've seen
so far here Jared under all right Bangura, which is
their uh running back that we didn't didn't even talk about,
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thirty thirty six attendred and fifty two yards and a
touchdown for the year. He as yards per carry at
three point three seven, which that is a concern that
we've talked about in a in our scarlet in Grade
episode of Ohio State. Letting up some yards per carry
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is a little bit higher than we would want ken
Ohio State lower that in this game here three point
three seven yards? What say you, Jared?
Speaker 1 (25:26):
The team will go over that, but Bengara won't.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I agree, it's gonna be under his var would I
think Navarro would probably get close to five. And I'm
going to be honest, I think I'll get like right
around five yards to carry Jackson. I just talked about
him before you joined Austin bo Jackson six and a
half carries. If I have him for my player to
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watch here, he's got to get over on that one.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
For me, I think he earned some extra carries last week.
This was just this course totally depends upon how quickly
Ohio State goes up in this game, which goes back
to my player to watch for Ohio State, which is,
you know, if we get the same sort of consistency,
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if we get the same sort of consistency out of
saying that we got last week or close to it,
the expectation can't be that he goes seventeen for seventeen
to start the game. But you know what I'm saying,
if we get that, but if we get something close
to that sort of consistency and the game gets over
real quick, we'll see at least six from Jackson, All right, fair.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Enough, all right, styles and downs. Tacko's at ten and
a half, so styles.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
This this should be an easy over. The concern, of course,
is what happened if the game gets out of control
super quickly and neither of them play all that much.
What if Ohio doesn't get all that many snaps? But this,
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this is Ohio, This isn't grambling. I while I do
think we see the backups in this game, it won't
be at halftime. You know, it's not going to be
right at the start of the second half. And I
do think they're going to get more first downs than
Ohio State fans are comfortable with. Again because I think
Navarro's that sort of dynamic. I'm gonna go over on this.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
I'm kind of torn on this because, I I mean,
if you try to look at the numbers, they it's
very misleading just because they didn't get to be on
the field as much in the last game. But if
you take consideration of the Texas game, well, look at
that they combined for ten tackles. I see what you
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did there, Austin. Yeah, I'll go over. I'll go over
as well for this sort too.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
The vire can actually complete passes though.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yes, dare I say the most accurate passer O House
State we'll have faced to date?
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, all right, saying completion percentage at seventy one and
a half percent, which he is currently at seventy nine
and a half percent. It's amazing what going eighteen for
nineteen will do for you. I gotta go under. I'll
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go under with this. That one seventy one is just
is a lot. I know, I know he was super
super accurate and against against Grambling last weekend, but with
all the misketches though, you can look at the Texas
Texas game too, and you can say, look, he he
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could have been like a seventy five percent for that
one too. Yeah, but seventy one percent, that's just a
that's a really high number for me. I'll take the
odds and say under.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
It feels crazy to say over, yet here I go.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
All right, all right, and last one, Jared, we have
all right, we got JJ Carnell, n It's and Claire. Yeah,
receiving yards at two hundred and eleven and a half
yards combined.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yeah. Again, I don't feel like this. I don't feel
like this is a game in which you're gonna see
the starters pulled at half time, which makes this number
very achievable. Uh So I'm gonna go over.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Yeah, I was looking at again, just it's very limited
on what well you have you have to take in
consideration for last weekend. But two hundred and twenty four
yards for those four against against Grambling last last weekend. There,
so I'm gonna say I'll say over. I'll say over
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as well. I think that they'll see the they'll see
the the field a lot more than they did last weekend.
Give the more opportunities for more catches, more yards. Yeah,
I'll go over.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Kyle the same in completion percentage is the only one
of those we differed.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
On it is.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yeah, that kind of sucks just from a podcasting perspective,
but you know it's it's it's an honest assessment.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
We'll do we'll do well what we've always said in
the ten years that we've always done this, Jared, we'll
do better next time.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Oh, Austin brings up a really good point though, were
we are currently tied for the season, so we will
have a leader based purely off of completion percentage. One
of us will be in the lead when we when
we do this again next week.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
I do have a question for you, Austin. I know
we're over on time here, but I do have a question.
What if his percentage is exactly seventy one point?
Speaker 1 (31:45):
That would be difficult, that would be mathematically difficult. That
would be.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
All right?
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Kyle?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Do you do you have me thinking Kyle's corner?
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Do I have anything in Kyle's corner?
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (32:05):
I know, don't want to talk a lot about it,
just because it's we would be here for a long time.
But NCAA talking about proposing the transfer portal, just having
one portal, which I'm open, I'm all for, but in
the middle of the playoffs though, in like early mid January.
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I'm not a fan of that.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Neither.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
It is coach Day. Coach Day isn't a fan of
that either.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Yeah, uh, that's dumb. Also, I like the post spring portal,
Like I understand, I understand why coaches wouldn't want it,
but I think it's good for the players to have
a post spring portal. I think they can get a
(32:54):
really good assessment on where they stand with the team,
and if they're standing with the team, isn't where they
needed to be to further their careers than they can
go elsewhere. I understand again why the coaches would would
love that, but I'm I'm I'm more inclined to sympathize
with the players and the coaches. Mm hmm, all right,
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so anything else. Buck.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Guys in the NFL had a great, great opening weekend
as well. I know a lot of attention on the
wide receivers who had like almost five hundred yards combined
in the NFL in the in Week one there, and
it was a great, great weekend from uh from Abuka
with the game winning catch from New Orleans to Nick
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Bosa with the strip sack to to seal it for
San Francisco toos it was a good weekend for for
Bucky alumni.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Yeah, especially the wide receivers, especially wide receivers.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Yeah, all right, that's it, Alright, that's it.
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Speaker 2 (00:42):
Right, Jared, how are you doing today?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I'm not gonna complain, an I'm what's gonna do it?
It's not gonna complain. No, I confuse to complain. Why
because it's it's September. It's September in Ohio. This is
peak Ohio.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
This is peak Ohio, Ohio, Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I lobbed that up there for you, and I was
really hoping you were going to get it. It was
really hoping you were going to get it. All right, Cale, Bobcats,
Bobcats are coming to town.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
The biggest question think.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Off of a big upset they did.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, they took off their in Athens. They took down
the Mountaineers of West Virginia. Yeah, big win for them.
But the big question here, Jared, Yeah, will the Bobcat
be allowed in Ohio Stadium this year?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I mean, listen, how long ago was that? That was me?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Years ago?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Whoever that, whoever that dude was, isn't a student in
Athens anymore. I mean I don't. Okay, I'm sorry, I
can I'm sorry everybody, But let's let's face reality. For
a moment. There's a person in there. The Bobcat's not
the problem. The Bobcat is a costume. Whoever that person
(02:15):
was was the problem, not not the costume. All right,
we aren't. We aren't arresting Chuck E Cheese here. All right,
let's you know what I'm saying. Now, don't you ever
tell me there's a person in the Brutus costume. In fact,
don't even call it a costume.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
It's brutus.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
It's Brutus Bobcat. However, there's a person in there, Brutus.
There's a person in that Bobcat costume. Brutus.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
All right, let's get to know our enemy. Jared Ohio,
Oh I oh, one thing, one game I hate about this.
What's up on the Peacocks on the Peacock channel or
streaming service at seven o'clock this weekend.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yeah, they got to force you to get that subscription
for at least a month, right, because if they force
you to get the subscription for for one month, then
they're betting that you either keep it or you know,
forget to turn it off. And then they get you
for two months, maybe even three. Don't really notice it,
(03:36):
you know, then all of a sudden, you've paid.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
You paid for two months because.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Hey, you might as well keep it through the end
of the season, just in case, just in case. And
you know that then there's the Royal Rumble, and you
know now you're keeping it through January, and you're like, well,
WrestleMania is not that far away. A mm hmm, still
on Peacock, I don't remember, all right, Bobcats. Let me
(04:10):
let me just let's start off with the Bobcats on
this I I I legitimately like Parker Navarro. I think
he's a very good quarterback.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Hence to turn the ball over. I mean, he's got
a kind of double edged sword.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
He's I mean, let's let's let's keep in mind the
team he plays for, and he sometimes is put into
a position where he needs to make stuff happen. You know,
he still does play for the Bobcats, who, as far
as Max standards go, it is a good team this year.
I think Kyle and I were talking before we started recording,
(04:55):
where he was telling me that, well, who was it, Kyle,
one of the Michigans was less likely to upset Illinois
than Ohio was to upset.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah, Ohio, Western Michigan.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Western Michigan, one of the directional Michigans, one of them,
one of them. And it's just like, well, that's there's more.
It says more about Ohio versus Directional Michigan than it
does Ohio State versus Illinois. Not all MAC teams are
made the same, and this is an above average MAC team.
That being said, it's still a MAC team. Yeah, they
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upset Western Virginia, but in Ohio State, it's not West Virginia.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
They almost speat Rutgers in week in week one, lost
by three points.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Almost, they almost.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Oh Most beat Rutgers almost. And this is why, and
this is why Vegas has Ohio State as a thirty
two and a half point favorite, twenty point less, twenty
three points less than in Ohio State versus Grambling State.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, and I believe the line opened like thirty five
or thirty six, So it's actually even come down a bit,
which means that you know, a lot of money is
going on Ohio.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yeah, I guess depends on where you looked at. Yeah,
the one I was looked at, it's stayed the same. Well,
it's actually down to thirty one and a half. But
depending upon me, either right, we're locked at thirty two
and a half.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
So, yeah, we already told you and Collegiate Chaos that
we are both taking Ohio State with the points. Obviously
we both think Ohio State's gonna win this game. That's
not a shock. And the thirty two points I think
con I are both comfortable with. But I do like
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this Ohio team. They are they would destroy Graham Blin.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
And you know, let's take a moment and again, it's
only two games. Granted it's only two games, but they
were two games against Power four opponents. Were they good
Power four opponents? No, they weren't. West Virginia is not
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challenging for the Big twelve this year, and Rutgers isn't
challenging for the Big ten this year. But theoretically they
should have been outclassed points per game twenty four to
twenty two yards per game, gaming four thirty four, giving
(07:54):
up three to twenty four yards per play six offensively
five point four. Defensively, their net positive and passing yards
not yards per pass, but their positive you know, offensive defense,
and rushing yards running and including yards per rush. Kyle,
(08:20):
They're currently running four point eight per running attempt.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
That helps. It helps that with Navarro rushing the ball
twenty seven times and averaging six point seven per carry, Yeah,
for sure.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
So it's gonna be one of those types of games
where you're gonna see the quarterback running a lot. As
Kyle said, he does have a bit of a turnover issue.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, in the last game against West Virginia, he threw
three interceptions, which the those are the only three turnovers
for for Ohio this year.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
And uh, third down percentage Kyle forty one percent offensively,
which is pretty good. That is, yeah, defensively allowing only
twelve percent conversion.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
That's really good.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
That that got me kind of curious. I'm good to
see if I can look it up, Kyle, look it
up real quick, Like, what what do you think Ohio
State is for for third down? For their third down conversions.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Offensively or defensively?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Actually? Actually, Higo States? Actually is this correct? You know,
let me let me verify before I start saying thing
squid Oh oh that's right, because this doesn't take in
consideration fcs right teams.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Right right, right right, so it would only be Texas.
So the numbers aren't going to look great. Yeah, yeah,
I just I like their defense. I like Parker and Navarro.
I think Chase Hendricks is a good wide receiver. I
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think they have a lot to offer as a team.
Are they gonna beat Ohio State? Now? Would they beat Texas? Now?
Would they be bottom half in the Big Ten? Yes?
But they almost beat Rutgers and they would destroy Grambling.
(10:53):
I think that they will compete in the MAC this year.
I think they're one of the one two I'd say
one of the top two teams in the MAC this year.
Maybe three, but but it's still the MAC. This is
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a pretty good MAC team, still a MAC team. This
is this is they have an above average quarterback. They
have They have a quarterback capable of making a lot
of plays, both good and bad. But you know, he's
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he's one of those types of guys. If you get
the wrong Parker Navarro on any given Saturday, you might
be in trouble, unless you're a highest state, in which
case you'll probably be fine. If you're West Virginia and
you get the wrong Parker Navarro, you're in trouble. And
(11:56):
even if Parker tomorrow isn't necessarily if you get the
wrong Parker Navarro it's still going to cause some frustration
for Ohio State fans. I'm not saying the Ohio is
going to beat Ohio State. That's just not gonna happen. Kyle.
(12:17):
We talked about this in the Discord Server today. When
was the last time a MAX school beat Ohio State?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Question?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
It's kind of it's a trick question.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
It is a trick question. A MAC school, Yeah, a
team that was in the MAC at the time.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, zero zero. They has never happened. Now that being said,
Ohio State has lost to Akron like over one hundred
years ago, back in eighteen ninety something, but.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
They weren't called Akron.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
They weren't even called Akron yet there was no MAC,
and of course Akron wouldn't even join the MAC until
nineteen ninety four or something like that, ninety two ninety three.
It was during that big upheaval. Point is is that
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it's technically never happened. Along those same lines, Ohio State
did lose the Cincinnati at one point, and Cincinnati was
in the MAC at one point, so.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
You know, but not at the time. Now, that's where
there was kind of a yeah, So.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, that's Ohio State's never lost to a MAC school,
and it's not It's not going to change on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Nope.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
But I do like Ohio for Max school. That that
that's what this boils down to. I like parking. I
like their defense, Jack Fries a good pair of linebackers
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with with Fries and Mulner, Donnis Williams Junior is a
good safety.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
I like their linebackers. Their linebackers are seniors and graduates too,
so they got they had a lot of experience with
their linebackers.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Again, very good Max school, yep. But in Max School.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Ohio State is pretty much the same offensive third down
percentage as Ohio. It's like right around right around that,
there's like forty one point seven percent somewhere around.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
There, basically the same defensively.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
It's defensively it's seventeen point eight percent.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Is that with yep? Okay?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
That is with because if you don't take that, if
you just do just the one game, I'll have State
is just twenty five percent third down conversion. And I
think they're lighting up forty five percent on third down.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Okay, all right, anybody, I guess anything else you want
to say in Ohio or do you want to move
on to the second half of the show.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Don't be surprised if Ohio does score here, don't be surprised,
like if they score once twice, I think, I think
obviously it's going to be able to score a lot
of points, Like I's not going to be able to
keep up with points. But if and when Ohio does score, like,
don't don't fret. Don't be like, I can't believe we
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let up points against the max Squints. It's okay, it fine,
It's okay. If they score some points.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Everything will be okay. Yep, anything else before we move
on to the second half the show.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
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Speaker 1 (16:54):
All right, Kyle, all right, Jared, y this need something
to enter it back into the show Ohio State player
to watch here? Do you have?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
You know, I'm just gonna go out of left field
just because have I think it was just a hot
topic for everybody talk about, just because of how well
he did in his first game. And honestly, I don't
think there really is a player to watch in here,
because I think we're gonna still see a lot of
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Buckeye players playing in this game here. Not as much
as a Grambling State, but a lot. Still. I just
have a hunch that we may we may we may
see more more of uh more of our freshman, shiny
freshman running back here Bo Jackson.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
All right, that that is a bit out of left field.
I'm going to stay right in center. I'm gonna stay
directly in centerfield. I'm going Julian saying here, I still
think Ohio States long well, you know, season long fortunes
are very much tied to Julian saying I think he's
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still to me is the biggest question mark on the team.
I saw flashes of what I wanted to see against Texas.
He obviously looked great against Grambling, but Grambling, you know,
at times it was like just playing catch against no
defense at all. He did, of course, throw an interception
(18:43):
in that game, but it'll be nice to see him
somewhere between. Right, you go from this great Texas defense
to an FCS school, and now I get to see
him somewhere in between those two things. So I think
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it'd be really interesting. What's Julian say in this game?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
All right? Player enemy player to watch here? I think
the obvious answer is Parker Navarro. Yeah, the team's only
going to succeed for how how well he does very
accurate passing the ball. I don't think we covered that part.
Very accurate sixty nine nice point four percent completion for
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the year so far for Navarro, but also rushing the
ball twenty seven twenty seven times for one hundred and
eighty yards and a tuddy as well. Did mention like
he has thrown three interceptions in the last game against
West Virginia. But yeah, it's it's Navarro. My pick is Navarro.
(19:54):
But I think the other pick you could possibly pick
is maybe their standout receiver at Chase Hendricks, who already
has seventeen catches already for the year in two games.
So that could be another person on the offensive side
that you could pick as well.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
They matchup.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Well, who you got for your enemy player to watch?
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Jared, oh No, I just agreed with you. It's Parker Navarro.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Okay, yeah, uh key matchup. I I'd say it's Navarro
versus versus Hot State linebackers. Gotta you gotta keep you
gotta keep Navarro contained here. He's going to get he's
he he is a runner, He's a very very mobile quarterback.
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He's going to try to make players miss here. So
being able to contain Navarro, So it is. It is
Navarro versus the duo linebackers of Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
I have a very similar answer, Yes, a dual threat,
very similar answer. I'm gonna say, the defensive ends against
Parker Navarro, you gotta keep containment, you got to get
some sacks, you got to create pressure. So we're on
the same wavelength there, but a slightly different, a slightly
(21:24):
different take. Okay, fair, I am more afraid not. And
this is not to knock Navarro as a thrower of
the ball. It's it's it's that I really like Ohio
State's defensive backs against Ohio's wide receivers, and a scrambler
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is just such a wild card. So specifically in regards
to Ohio State. I'm more afraid of his legs than
his arm.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Fair enough. Two and a half points is the spread
that locked in here. Some have it down to thirty
one and a half, thirty three and a half, but
we we locked it at thirty two and a half.
If you listen to our episode from yesterday, Jared and
I have already hinted at or straight who we picked here.
(22:22):
Oh yeah, we actually not really hinted, but we did
say who we picked here, and it is a team
in scarlet and gray. It is the Lovin Warriors, brave
and bold, brave and bold. Thank you, Jared. I was
hoping you wouldn't finish that, Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
I didn't know if you were waiting on me or
if you brain farted.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
I was tossing it up to you.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Jared, all right, all right, all right, yeah, thirty two
and a half points is not enough.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Agreed, all right.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Obviously, if we're taking Ohio State with the points, we're
also taking Ohio State to win, so that's the winner. Pick, Kyle,
do you have a final score?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I have Ohio State with the score forty five to seven.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
I'm getting forty nine to seven. I think Ryan Day
is done with field goals. I think if he can
choose not to kick a field goal, he's gonna choose
not to kick a field goal. Yeah, so I'm gonna
go forty nine.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Right, forty nine to seven, forty five seven in all senses,
forty eight three. All right.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
New Year's Eve twenty twenty three fucked him up, and
that's fair, honestly fucked field goals. This isn't the NFL.
Don't get touchdown.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Quick all right, quickly here we're gonna do. We're gonna
do some awesome since Austin's in the in the chat,
here some Austin over under his real quick here, Jared. Yeah, uh,
first off, Navarro total yards two hundred and four and
a half yards over. So this is going to be
I'm not even hesitating. Yeah, this is gonna be passing,
totally running over over. I'm not I'm not hesitating on that.
(24:21):
It's it is over Ohio State. Sacks given up.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
The one thing that considers up on that first one
is if he gets like popped and hurt.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
But sure, regardless, sack Sacks given up one and a
half under. I'll take the under from what I've seen
so far here Jared under all right Bangura, which is
their uh running back that we didn't didn't even talk about,
(24:54):
thirty thirty six attendred and fifty two yards and a
touchdown for the year. He as yards per carry at
three point three seven, which that is a concern that
we've talked about in a in our scarlet in Grade
episode of Ohio State. Letting up some yards per carry
(25:14):
is a little bit higher than we would want ken
Ohio State lower that in this game here three point
three seven yards? What say you, Jared?
Speaker 1 (25:26):
The team will go over that, but Bengara won't.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I agree, it's gonna be under his var would I
think Navarro would probably get close to five. And I'm
going to be honest, I think I'll get like right
around five yards to carry Jackson. I just talked about
him before you joined Austin bo Jackson six and a
half carries. If I have him for my player to
(25:52):
watch here, he's got to get over on that one.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
For me, I think he earned some extra carries last week.
This was just this course totally depends upon how quickly
Ohio State goes up in this game, which goes back
to my player to watch for Ohio State, which is,
you know, if we get the same sort of consistency,
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if we get the same sort of consistency out of
saying that we got last week or close to it,
the expectation can't be that he goes seventeen for seventeen
to start the game. But you know what I'm saying,
if we get that, but if we get something close
to that sort of consistency and the game gets over
real quick, we'll see at least six from Jackson, All right, fair.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Enough, all right, styles and downs. Tacko's at ten and
a half, so styles.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
This this should be an easy over. The concern, of course,
is what happened if the game gets out of control
super quickly and neither of them play all that much.
What if Ohio doesn't get all that many snaps? But this,
(27:12):
this is Ohio, This isn't grambling. I while I do
think we see the backups in this game, it won't
be at halftime. You know, it's not going to be
right at the start of the second half. And I
do think they're going to get more first downs than
Ohio State fans are comfortable with. Again because I think
Navarro's that sort of dynamic. I'm gonna go over on this.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
I'm kind of torn on this because, I I mean,
if you try to look at the numbers, they it's
very misleading just because they didn't get to be on
the field as much in the last game. But if
you take consideration of the Texas game, well, look at
that they combined for ten tackles. I see what you
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did there, Austin. Yeah, I'll go over. I'll go over
as well for this sort too.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
The vire can actually complete passes though.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yes, dare I say the most accurate passer O House
State we'll have faced to date?
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, all right, saying completion percentage at seventy one and
a half percent, which he is currently at seventy nine
and a half percent. It's amazing what going eighteen for
nineteen will do for you. I gotta go under. I'll
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go under with this. That one seventy one is just
is a lot. I know, I know he was super
super accurate and against against Grambling last weekend, but with
all the misketches though, you can look at the Texas
Texas game too, and you can say, look, he he
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could have been like a seventy five percent for that
one too. Yeah, but seventy one percent, that's just a
that's a really high number for me. I'll take the
odds and say under.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
It feels crazy to say over, yet here I go.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
All right, all right, and last one, Jared, we have
all right, we got JJ Carnell, n It's and Claire. Yeah,
receiving yards at two hundred and eleven and a half
yards combined.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yeah. Again, I don't feel like this. I don't feel
like this is a game in which you're gonna see
the starters pulled at half time, which makes this number
very achievable. Uh So I'm gonna go over.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Yeah, I was looking at again, just it's very limited
on what well you have you have to take in
consideration for last weekend. But two hundred and twenty four
yards for those four against against Grambling last last weekend. There,
so I'm gonna say I'll say over. I'll say over
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as well. I think that they'll see the they'll see
the the field a lot more than they did last weekend.
Give the more opportunities for more catches, more yards. Yeah,
I'll go over.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Kyle the same in completion percentage is the only one
of those we differed.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
On it is.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yeah, that kind of sucks just from a podcasting perspective,
but you know it's it's it's an honest assessment.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
We'll do we'll do well what we've always said in
the ten years that we've always done this, Jared, we'll
do better next time.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Oh, Austin brings up a really good point though, were
we are currently tied for the season, so we will
have a leader based purely off of completion percentage. One
of us will be in the lead when we when
we do this again next week.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
I do have a question for you, Austin. I know
we're over on time here, but I do have a question.
What if his percentage is exactly seventy one point?
Speaker 1 (31:45):
That would be difficult, that would be mathematically difficult. That
would be.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
All right?
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Kyle?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Do you do you have me thinking Kyle's corner?
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Do I have anything in Kyle's corner?
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (32:05):
I know, don't want to talk a lot about it,
just because it's we would be here for a long time.
But NCAA talking about proposing the transfer portal, just having
one portal, which I'm open, I'm all for, but in
the middle of the playoffs though, in like early mid January.
(32:27):
I'm not a fan of that.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Neither.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
It is coach Day. Coach Day isn't a fan of
that either.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Yeah, uh, that's dumb. Also, I like the post spring portal,
Like I understand, I understand why coaches wouldn't want it,
but I think it's good for the players to have
a post spring portal. I think they can get a
(32:54):
really good assessment on where they stand with the team,
and if they're standing with the team, isn't where they
needed to be to further their careers than they can
go elsewhere. I understand again why the coaches would would
love that, but I'm I'm I'm more inclined to sympathize
with the players and the coaches. Mm hmm, all right,
(33:22):
so anything else. Buck.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Guys in the NFL had a great, great opening weekend
as well. I know a lot of attention on the
wide receivers who had like almost five hundred yards combined
in the NFL in the in Week one there, and
it was a great, great weekend from uh from Abuka
with the game winning catch from New Orleans to Nick
(33:49):
Bosa with the strip sack to to seal it for
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