November 20, 2025 • 35 mins
Ohio State hosts Rutgers in their final home game of the season. What do we think the Buckeyes will do against the Scarlet Knights? Should Ryan Day rest the starters for The Game?
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Speaker 1 (00:37):
Anchors up sells at full How are you doing for
the cop what jeremen?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Are you doing good?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Doing good? Doing good? Kyle. It's it's almost counting down
the days that's as and and then then something after that,
and then there's something after that. But right now, laser focused,
(01:08):
laser focused on the Scarlet Lights, the mighty Mighty Scarlet Knights,
the State University of New Jersey.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Mm hm, you know, you know how last week Gard
we talked about we talked about uc LA and how
how much they've struggled as a team.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
UCLA. That was, uh looking at Rutgers here.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Uh, it's.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Not any better, I'll say, I'll try to put it nicely,
not any better than u c l A last weekend.
So we're gonna we're gonna do our best to try
to get to know know our enemy, Rutgers Scarlet Nights, which,
by the way, I know we've talked about this during
the off season though, Jared, but some of their alt
(02:06):
logos it's pretty pretty balid, it's pretty ballid.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I love their secondary logo. It's actually one of my
favorite logos.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Maybe we can just talk about logos for the know
your enemy.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Well, Kyle, I don't have additional logo talk join us
for the off season. For that, however, I do have. Yeah,
we are already planning the off season because that's how
we do with the Sloop cast. Did you know what
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the first I don't. I don't want to talk about
their football team yet. Did you do? You know what
the original name of Records University is.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
The State University of Jersey.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
It was called Queen's College.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Queen's College.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, that was because it was it predates the unit.
It's an old university. It predates the United States. I mean,
you know what I mean when I say it predates
the United States, the independent United States. Then it was
renamed in honor of Colonel Henry Rutgers, and that's where
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they get their name.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Interesting, yeah, isn't Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
It was also one of nine colonial colleges that predate
the American Revolution. An additional fun fact, I am reading
straight from Wikipedia right now. I I definitely knew all
of this and didn't look it up as you were
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talking a moment ago.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
They but Rutgers is the birthplace of college football.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Though allegedly lesson I want to let's be honest. People
didn't used to care about football. So a lot of
the like, oh, this started here and that started there,
and also like our modern idea of what American football
is is kind of a bastardization of you know, English footy,
(04:30):
I'm gonna call it English footy and a game that
the Native Americans played that would also later become lacrosse.
So you kind of take this ancient indigenous game and
you mix it with soccer, and you slam those two
things together and you get American football. And apparently it
(04:54):
was actually you know what this is not now, I'm
not reading from Wikipedia, and we should actually probably focus
on scarlet nights before I before I go into a
whole thing.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
So looking at the team, looking at the team here,
we're just going we're just going to move on, Yes,
looking at the team, begging at the team, looking at
the team here, or averaging twenty six points on offense,
letting up thirty two points on defense here, so I
mean five and five record for the season kind of
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kind of matches there for the points total here. They're passing,
they're passing, they're they're in the middle to above average
in terms of of yards per game, yards per play. Uh,
definitely up there in the passing yards per game, but
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a lot of it is because they are down more often.
They need to start passing more. They're twenty six in
the country and passing yards per game at two and
six six per game and thirty eighth and passing yards
per pass just under eight.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
But only time.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
That's about where it all the good ends with with
the Rutgers here only three point seven yards per rush
on their rushing attack. They don't they don't call, they
don't have a lot of turn or they the one
hundred and seventh in turnovers, one hundred and twentieth and
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quarterback sacks per play like they're they're they're at the
near bottom in terms of protecting their quarterback. And then
on defense, it's not not not good, Jared. There they
are last, they are dead last, Jared. In running yards
per rush. They are letting up six point eight yards
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per rush.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, what.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
What what else? What else can you what else can
you say about that? They let up over two hundred
yards on the ground.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, listen, I know there's a lot of anxiety right
now about the health of Ohio states. Two star wide receivers,
that is, two star wide receivers not two star wide receivers.
And what I'm please, don't freak out if neither of
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them play this weekend. Don't freak out. I'm not saying
I definitely know there's not a problem, because hey, maybe
there is. I'm just saying that whatever happens this weekend
proves nothing. Oh my god, they didn't play. That definitely
means that this no, it doesn't listen. Ohio State can
(07:56):
and maybe should go full army against records. Hell sit saying,
run an option.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I mean, I mean that that that is a good
question here. When should Ryan Day start resting the starters here?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Immediately immediately e medi it lee, I mean here like again, Oh,
Cardinal takes a little bit tight. Sit him. Uh, JJ's
kind of got something to sit him. Sit him. You
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don't need to ever throw the ball in this game,
Julian saying, kind of landed weird on his ankle during
the U c l A game and didn't quite look
right after that. You know what, Let's sit him, Let's
sit him down. You don't need to throw in this
football game. You never, not once need to throw the
ball in this football game.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Well, let's let's look at last weekend Rutgers beat to
Maryland thirty five to twenty. Let's look a little deeper
into that here and how Maryland that was there?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
How many big ten wins?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Maryland only passed it, Maryland only passed it ninety eight yards, okay,
but they rushed it for three hundred and five yards,
averaging ten and a half yards per pop.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
How did they lose?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
That's a great question. That's a great question because Rutgers
their their their quarterback, four touchdowns and two interceptions.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
McMahon, that's that is That is a great question, Kyle.
How how fo Minnesota? By the way, how.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Did Rutgers win this game?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
They they they they stopped them on fourth downs. Rutgers
was eight for twelve on third downs and Maryland was
four for twelve, one for three on fourth down.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
If you're running the ball ten yards a rush, why
are you ever facing a third down?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Why are you ever face questions? I don't know, Yeah,
great questions. I don't. Kind of feels like your.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Third down conversion percentage should have been zero of zero
with a percentage of nah.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah. I mean that that tells me that they that
Maryland had some big rushes here.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
You have to have any big rushes to rush for
three hundred and one game.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I do see that Maryland's running back, one of them
ran for seventy three yards which went for a touchdown,
and then another running back, I'm sorry their quarterback. I
apologize their quarterback who ran for a seventy three yard touchdown.
And then they're running back Nolan Ray had a fifty
three yard run as well.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Too, So well that helps out. Yeah, that helps out
in winning a football game. And also that doesn't even
account for half of the yards.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, I mean, great questions. I'm not gonna pretend I watched.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
The game, but I didn't watch that game. Why why
would anyone watch Rutgers versus Maryland? Why would anyone subject
themselves to that? Listen? Rutgers is bad. Their run defense
is atrocious. M hm, let link play and go just
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go full JT. Barrett on their asses. I'm not kidding.
You know what your wide receivers sit all of them.
We're going full tight end mode game.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Rutgers as a team is averaging right at one sack
per game.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
They're only guilty if I'm kidding. I'm kind of kidding.
But am I am?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I a lighting up thirty one sex for the season
right now, Yeah, I'm looking at this defense here and
it's kind of spread kind of spread out they have.
They have four players who who seem to be really
close in terms of total tackles for the year. So
it's not like they have a linebacker who has almost
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one hundred tackles and he's kind of the the heart
and soul here. The kind of kind of spread out.
But if you were to pick player position do they play, Yeah, Yeah,
if I'm to pick one player, it's jet E Lad
They're I believe he's their free safety, their free safety here.
And what have we talked about in the past, it's
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not a It's not a good sign when your safety
is your leading tackler. It's an even worse side when
both of your safeties are leading tacklings. Correct, Yes, this
is not a sign of a good defense. Now, this
means that the and obviously they are average rush is
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six basically basically seven yards per rush. You're the safeties
are getting or the running backs are getting to.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
The second level pretty frequently, the third level pretty frequently.
This team's Yeah, and by the way, like I'm yes,
yards per rush one hundred and thirty sixth in the country.
That is dead last. If you're if you're not currently
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familiar with how many teams are in FBS, that many,
it's that many, and they're pretty much almost dead last.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
And points per play.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Hold on, now it's worth pointing out the yards per past.
They're still one hundred and twenty eighth. It's not a
lot better.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Let link play they are second. They are second to last.
And yards per play.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Oh, yeah, we did it doesn't matter if you pass. Yes,
really weird if they were somehow better, yep.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yeah. And they're in there. Yeah, they're defensive line isn't
really getting it done either. Uh, they're they're starting.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Getting it done.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah, they're they're Their edge rusher Eric O'Neill uh ties
for the team in sacks at two and a half sacks.
The other is there is there Tackle Griffin who also
has two and a half sacks or I'm sorry, Yeah,
I believe he has two and a half sacks as
well too if I'm looking here.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah, what did great Ciano do at Ohio State? Greg Schiano,
head coach of Rutgers What what what role did he
hold at Ohio State?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
He was the defensive coordinator.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Okay, and and Rutgers has the worst defense in college football.
Maybe Urban, maybe not one of Urban's best hires. Sure,
maybe not one of Urban's best hires.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Again.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Cal McManus used to play at Minnesota. Ohio State played him,
played against him at Minnesota before. He's fine. He'd probably
be doing better if he wasn't playing for this Rutgers team.
He's fine. That's it is what it is. He can
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hurt you with his legs a bit, although not a lot,
but he's he's certainly mobile. kJ Duff is actually pretty
decent wide receiver. Raymond's not a bad running back.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, I'm trying to remember. I think I think last
year Jared because that name, that name rings a bell here.
I'm trying to quickly pull it up here of the
last time that they played.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Sorry here are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Uh? Nope, nope, I I Raymond. I thinking of a
different player. Never mind, move on.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Fair Yeah, Rutgers Kyle bad at football? Mm hmm, yeah,
I don't. I don't know how else to say it.
There's not a redeeming quality here other than I mean,
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they're they're not terrible. They're not totally terrible. On offense. Now,
part of that might have to do with the fact
that they have to play a lot of offense because
they do. Ye, we mentioned in fact, we mentioned the
condition of the defense.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, fun fact about Raymond real quick, and then we'll
take our at birk real quick. Raymond two hundred rushing
attempts a lot. That's a lot a thousand yards exactly,
averaging exactly five yards per rush.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
He rushed the ball.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Forty one times against Maryland for for two hundred and
forty yards, so he pretty much got a quarter of
his stats. Yeah, was just last weekend, So he's nice
and fresh.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
It is what you're telling.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yeah, nice and for USh.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yes, yeah. Uh. Maryland also bad at football.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
That also a lot of a lot a lot of
bad teams in the Big Ten this year. Yeah, some
some real bottom dwellers, and weirdly none of them are Indiana. Yeah,
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Speaker 1 (19:11):
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Speaker 4 (19:24):
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spa to be probably pretty quick here.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Well, how state player to watch in this one? Jared,
I think you can go a lot of different ways.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Link link linking. Yeah, Lincoln Keenholes. I'm not kidding, that's
my pick.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I don't even know. Honestly, I don't even know who
to pick us. It's you know, I would just say
because he played really well last weekend, kind of out
of the blues, like wait, who who's fifty eight? Who's
that on the field there? I'm gonna pick Van Sickle.
I'm gonna pick Van Sickle.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
They gabe Van Sickle. I say, go for it, all right?
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Enemy player to watch?
Speaker 4 (21:13):
You could?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
You could say the running back there, but I I
feel like that's not the answer. I think he's the
question forty one times forty one times in last weekend here,
he's he's probably gonna be he's probably gonna be tired here.
So I'll go I'll go on the defensive side. I'll say,
jet e lad their safety? Can he can he can
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he prevent that? Can he prevent the long place?
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yeah? That makes sense. I'm okay with Greg Shanna. I
think the last time highest they played Rutgers, he and
uh Ryan Day almost got in a fight, and I
think that would make for good television was two years ago.
I think that would make for good television. I want
to see them fight.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
All right, all right, key matchup here? I injuries? Like
like Ohio State getting in, getting in and out? Uh
with no injuries?
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
I mean sure, I'm like, that's not really a matchup.
But screwt key matchup Ryan Day, Greg Chiano, steel cage match. Hmmm,
who in that Columbus Ohio? Honestly probably Greg Ciano?
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Maybe?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
All right?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
The spread and this one is thirty and a half.
So Vegas is telling us that Rutgers is A is
one point better than U C l A last weekend.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
I suppose.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Sure. I mean Rutgers has the better record. Mm hm,
then that's in UCLA. But UCLA is ahead of Rutgers
in conference though with one more win. I'm not sure
what that tells what that really really tells you, though,
But thirty and a half points here it is not enough.
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I got the buck used to cover the thirty and
a half. I have the final score Ohio State forty
two and Rutgers somehow gets seven points somewhere because second
and third string we'll get in there.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yeah, I got thirty eight to seven. The touchdown comes
in the fourth quarter against the second string. Cool, all right, Yes,
hely is a cover, and yes I did actually pick
Ohio State not the cover in the sloop picks section
of Collegiate Chaos, but that was done for strategic reasons. Wow,
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all right, sure, I'll let it slide, all right. And
last one we have here is Austin's overs. Austin over unders. Okay,
I think.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
For whoever we play the week before the game, I.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Thought maybe he was slacking and normally gave us the
overs this week.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah, all right, calicomanis passing attempts twenty six and a half.
I'm gonna say under, I'll say under.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Yeah, I just don't feel like they're gonna have the
ball that much. Quite frankly, that's that's my thinking too. Yeah,
so I'm gonna go under.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Right.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Turnovers, total turnover total game turnovers at two and a half, honestly,
doesn't really get that many turnovers. And they also don't Yeah,
they don't cause a lot of turnovers and they don't
really give up a lot of turnovers either, So two
and a half. So are you saying there's three or more.
(25:07):
I'll take the under.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Uh yeah, uh yeah, I mean all the things, Kyle said.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I agree, okay, all right, Styles, both styles tackles at
twelve and a.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Half man Again, like, I just don't know how many snaps.
I don't how many opportunities for tackles there's gonna be
now you get both of them. And I think Elder
Styles does play special teams, so there's a little bit
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more opportunity there coverage special teams. He obviously plays return
special teams. Yeah, I'm gonna go under.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah, I was thinking under as well. All right, we
have e lad, Jabom and right tackles combined for twenty
two and.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
A half linebacker, linebacker in safety, three of their four
Kyle said, they have four guys leading in tackles. That's
three of them. Twenty two and a half. There's three
of them. It's about seven or so a piece. Yeah,
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I think it's going to run the ball a lot.
Me give me the over.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I'll go under Maryland. Maryland ran the ball almost thirty times,
but they obviously didn't and other of them very much
of those those three guys there, they got fifteen tackles.
I'm going under.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
You might be right on that one. That's good research,
all right.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Porter Cacumeric and Robert catches at three and a half.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Ooh, matches.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I like yeah, catches. I like this. I'm going over.
I'll go over.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Why huh.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Porter Kackimeric and Robert. Yeah, Robert's catches three and a half.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Now, it's just it's a weird trio. That's all. Yeah,
I'll go over, okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
And last one here, he has Duff and Raymond combined
rushing and receiving yards at eighty eight and a half.
That seems really low. That seems really low. I'll go
over on that.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I'm gonna go under. I don't think they get anything
done this weekend, all right.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
And last one stay in completion at seventy five point
two percent.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
What was he last week? It was about that. It
was I feel like that's a he was.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I'm trying. I'm trying to quickly pull it up here.
It's not it's not pulling it up quick enough for
me here.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Just just talking, just keep talking.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Twenty three He was twenty three for thirty one, which
is a seventy four point two percent, So a little
bit better, is what he is saying. Yeah, and especially
if like if you have JJ out, you have HET,
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you have a lot of your other starters out as
well too, potentially, like maybe that might be lower.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
It might be, but I gotta go.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
I gotta go with what his average is, which is
still above eighty percent, So I'll go over.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yeah. I will once again point out that Rutgers passing defense,
although not as bad as their rushing defense, is still
absolutely atrocious. Yeah, give me the over all?
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Right, awesome? So we have two differences in this one here,
Jared and I am up by two going into this week.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
See how I'm only down by two in this one,
So I could just make my picks. The other one,
I have to game the system. I just have to
game the system. I don't have a choice. There's limited
opportunity to catch you.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Yeah, all right, And that is Austin's over unders here,
do you, Jared want a fun, fun little pit stat
here that I just happened to glance. It's over regarding
to the Big Ten. I know I've mentioned mentioned about
ten minutes ago about how terrible the Big Ten is.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Is this s Kyle's corner?
Speaker 2 (30:12):
I don't know. Maybe, first off, the Big ten is
not terrible.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I dispute that there are some terrible teams in the
Big Ten.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
The last ten CFP rankings, like like they're up until
through the last rankings, so the last ten of them.
So that goes. That goes so far this year, all
last year, and going into the twenty twenty three as well,
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the Big ten has had the number one team in
each of the last ten CFP rankings. Has State so
far all this year, Oregon all last year and then
those cheeters up north team had the last one asterisk. Yeah,
so we'll do we'll do We'll do ten asterisks, or
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we can just say the last nine rankings that.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
That doesn't count, all right? Was that Kyle's corner? Sorry?
I think I answered that, and I don't remember what
you said.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I have a Yeah, Buckey's back basketball team with a
big win against Notre Dame. No I call.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Everyone's turning the podcast off. You can't talk about it.
It's it's November, it's Ohio. You can't talk about basketball.
People are good window. People are turning the podcast off
because you were bringing up the basketball team. I can
see our retention rates. You can go on YouTube, you
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can see their attention rates, and I'm seeing them Crater.
It was a good win, though, Okay, that's all I
was saying. That's all on take, okay, And all I'm
saying is is that you're creating our retention.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Rates, all right. And all I'm saying is that we
are that much closer. We are one day closer to
the game.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
And that's all really all that matters at this point, Excite,
except for Wreckers records matters. Blah blah, all right, because
you're supposed to say that, you have to say that,
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Speaker 4 (32:59):
On the court.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
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Speaker 4 (33:17):
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Speaker 2 (33:25):
He'll let me catch you up.
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Speaker 4 (33:50):
And step into wind uer boots.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
So let's come to that place A way we go?
We are was him? Well that was the shun shut
him go that close? Got step out here, I stepping
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to be up the road.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Getting adop the stakes.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Do you I think we should stay here for a
trio golf? And it looks like the shade and super
things follow with them.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
See you have in this so they could breathing here anyway,
(35:11):
So so well wa go call wat walked out, Well.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
We do want to shut out a shot out of
the way. Second nine
Anchors up sells at full How are you doing for
the cop what jeremen?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Are you doing good?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Doing good? Doing good? Kyle. It's it's almost counting down
the days that's as and and then then something after that,
and then there's something after that. But right now, laser focused,
(01:08):
laser focused on the Scarlet Lights, the mighty Mighty Scarlet Knights,
the State University of New Jersey.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Mm hm, you know, you know how last week Gard
we talked about we talked about uc LA and how
how much they've struggled as a team.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
UCLA. That was, uh looking at Rutgers here.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Uh, it's.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Not any better, I'll say, I'll try to put it nicely,
not any better than u c l A last weekend.
So we're gonna we're gonna do our best to try
to get to know know our enemy, Rutgers Scarlet Nights, which,
by the way, I know we've talked about this during
the off season though, Jared, but some of their alt
(02:06):
logos it's pretty pretty balid, it's pretty ballid.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I love their secondary logo. It's actually one of my
favorite logos.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Maybe we can just talk about logos for the know
your enemy.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Well, Kyle, I don't have additional logo talk join us
for the off season. For that, however, I do have. Yeah,
we are already planning the off season because that's how
we do with the Sloop cast. Did you know what
(02:41):
the first I don't. I don't want to talk about
their football team yet. Did you do? You know what
the original name of Records University is.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
The State University of Jersey.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
It was called Queen's College.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Queen's College.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, that was because it was it predates the unit.
It's an old university. It predates the United States. I mean,
you know what I mean when I say it predates
the United States, the independent United States. Then it was
renamed in honor of Colonel Henry Rutgers, and that's where
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they get their name.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Interesting, yeah, isn't Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
It was also one of nine colonial colleges that predate
the American Revolution. An additional fun fact, I am reading
straight from Wikipedia right now. I I definitely knew all
of this and didn't look it up as you were
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talking a moment ago.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
They but Rutgers is the birthplace of college football.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Though allegedly lesson I want to let's be honest. People
didn't used to care about football. So a lot of
the like, oh, this started here and that started there,
and also like our modern idea of what American football
is is kind of a bastardization of you know, English footy,
(04:30):
I'm gonna call it English footy and a game that
the Native Americans played that would also later become lacrosse.
So you kind of take this ancient indigenous game and
you mix it with soccer, and you slam those two
things together and you get American football. And apparently it
(04:54):
was actually you know what this is not now, I'm
not reading from Wikipedia, and we should actually probably focus
on scarlet nights before I before I go into a
whole thing.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
So looking at the team, looking at the team here,
we're just going we're just going to move on, Yes,
looking at the team, begging at the team, looking at
the team here, or averaging twenty six points on offense,
letting up thirty two points on defense here, so I
mean five and five record for the season kind of
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kind of matches there for the points total here. They're passing,
they're passing, they're they're in the middle to above average
in terms of of yards per game, yards per play. Uh,
definitely up there in the passing yards per game, but
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a lot of it is because they are down more often.
They need to start passing more. They're twenty six in
the country and passing yards per game at two and
six six per game and thirty eighth and passing yards
per pass just under eight.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
But only time.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
That's about where it all the good ends with with
the Rutgers here only three point seven yards per rush
on their rushing attack. They don't they don't call, they
don't have a lot of turn or they the one
hundred and seventh in turnovers, one hundred and twentieth and
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quarterback sacks per play like they're they're they're at the
near bottom in terms of protecting their quarterback. And then
on defense, it's not not not good, Jared. There they
are last, they are dead last, Jared. In running yards
per rush. They are letting up six point eight yards
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per rush.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, what.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
What what else? What else can you what else can
you say about that? They let up over two hundred
yards on the ground.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, listen, I know there's a lot of anxiety right
now about the health of Ohio states. Two star wide receivers,
that is, two star wide receivers not two star wide receivers.
And what I'm please, don't freak out if neither of
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them play this weekend. Don't freak out. I'm not saying
I definitely know there's not a problem, because hey, maybe
there is. I'm just saying that whatever happens this weekend
proves nothing. Oh my god, they didn't play. That definitely
means that this no, it doesn't listen. Ohio State can
(07:56):
and maybe should go full army against records. Hell sit saying,
run an option.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I mean, I mean that that that is a good
question here. When should Ryan Day start resting the starters here?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Immediately immediately e medi it lee, I mean here like again, Oh,
Cardinal takes a little bit tight. Sit him. Uh, JJ's
kind of got something to sit him. Sit him. You
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don't need to ever throw the ball in this game,
Julian saying, kind of landed weird on his ankle during
the U c l A game and didn't quite look
right after that. You know what, Let's sit him, Let's
sit him down. You don't need to throw in this
football game. You never, not once need to throw the
ball in this football game.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Well, let's let's look at last weekend Rutgers beat to
Maryland thirty five to twenty. Let's look a little deeper
into that here and how Maryland that was there?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
How many big ten wins?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Maryland only passed it, Maryland only passed it ninety eight yards, okay,
but they rushed it for three hundred and five yards,
averaging ten and a half yards per pop.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
How did they lose?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
That's a great question. That's a great question because Rutgers
their their their quarterback, four touchdowns and two interceptions.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
McMahon, that's that is That is a great question, Kyle.
How how fo Minnesota? By the way, how.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Did Rutgers win this game?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
They they they they stopped them on fourth downs. Rutgers
was eight for twelve on third downs and Maryland was
four for twelve, one for three on fourth down.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
If you're running the ball ten yards a rush, why
are you ever facing a third down?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Why are you ever face questions? I don't know, Yeah,
great questions. I don't. Kind of feels like your.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Third down conversion percentage should have been zero of zero
with a percentage of nah.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah. I mean that that tells me that they that
Maryland had some big rushes here.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
You have to have any big rushes to rush for
three hundred and one game.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I do see that Maryland's running back, one of them
ran for seventy three yards which went for a touchdown,
and then another running back, I'm sorry their quarterback. I
apologize their quarterback who ran for a seventy three yard touchdown.
And then they're running back Nolan Ray had a fifty
three yard run as well.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Too, So well that helps out. Yeah, that helps out
in winning a football game. And also that doesn't even
account for half of the yards.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, I mean, great questions. I'm not gonna pretend I watched.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
The game, but I didn't watch that game. Why why
would anyone watch Rutgers versus Maryland? Why would anyone subject
themselves to that? Listen? Rutgers is bad. Their run defense
is atrocious. M hm, let link play and go just
(11:32):
go full JT. Barrett on their asses. I'm not kidding.
You know what your wide receivers sit all of them.
We're going full tight end mode game.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Rutgers as a team is averaging right at one sack
per game.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
They're only guilty if I'm kidding. I'm kind of kidding.
But am I am?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I a lighting up thirty one sex for the season
right now, Yeah, I'm looking at this defense here and
it's kind of spread kind of spread out they have.
They have four players who who seem to be really
close in terms of total tackles for the year. So
it's not like they have a linebacker who has almost
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one hundred tackles and he's kind of the the heart
and soul here. The kind of kind of spread out.
But if you were to pick player position do they play, Yeah, Yeah,
if I'm to pick one player, it's jet E Lad
They're I believe he's their free safety, their free safety here.
And what have we talked about in the past, it's
(12:44):
not a It's not a good sign when your safety
is your leading tackler. It's an even worse side when
both of your safeties are leading tacklings. Correct, Yes, this
is not a sign of a good defense. Now, this
means that the and obviously they are average rush is
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six basically basically seven yards per rush. You're the safeties
are getting or the running backs are getting to.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
The second level pretty frequently, the third level pretty frequently.
This team's Yeah, and by the way, like I'm yes,
yards per rush one hundred and thirty sixth in the country.
That is dead last. If you're if you're not currently
(13:37):
familiar with how many teams are in FBS, that many,
it's that many, and they're pretty much almost dead last.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
And points per play.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Hold on, now it's worth pointing out the yards per past.
They're still one hundred and twenty eighth. It's not a
lot better.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Let link play they are second. They are second to last.
And yards per play.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Oh, yeah, we did it doesn't matter if you pass. Yes,
really weird if they were somehow better, yep.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yeah. And they're in there. Yeah, they're defensive line isn't
really getting it done either. Uh, they're they're starting.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Getting it done.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah, they're they're Their edge rusher Eric O'Neill uh ties
for the team in sacks at two and a half sacks.
The other is there is there Tackle Griffin who also
has two and a half sacks or I'm sorry, Yeah,
I believe he has two and a half sacks as
well too if I'm looking here.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah, what did great Ciano do at Ohio State? Greg Schiano,
head coach of Rutgers What what what role did he
hold at Ohio State?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
He was the defensive coordinator.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Okay, and and Rutgers has the worst defense in college football.
Maybe Urban, maybe not one of Urban's best hires. Sure,
maybe not one of Urban's best hires.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Again.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Cal McManus used to play at Minnesota. Ohio State played him,
played against him at Minnesota before. He's fine. He'd probably
be doing better if he wasn't playing for this Rutgers team.
He's fine. That's it is what it is. He can
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hurt you with his legs a bit, although not a lot,
but he's he's certainly mobile. kJ Duff is actually pretty
decent wide receiver. Raymond's not a bad running back.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, I'm trying to remember. I think I think last
year Jared because that name, that name rings a bell here.
I'm trying to quickly pull it up here of the
last time that they played.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Sorry here are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Uh? Nope, nope, I I Raymond. I thinking of a
different player. Never mind, move on.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Fair Yeah, Rutgers Kyle bad at football? Mm hmm, yeah,
I don't. I don't know how else to say it.
There's not a redeeming quality here other than I mean,
(17:06):
they're they're not terrible. They're not totally terrible. On offense. Now,
part of that might have to do with the fact
that they have to play a lot of offense because
they do. Ye, we mentioned in fact, we mentioned the
condition of the defense.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, fun fact about Raymond real quick, and then we'll
take our at birk real quick. Raymond two hundred rushing
attempts a lot. That's a lot a thousand yards exactly,
averaging exactly five yards per rush.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
He rushed the ball.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Forty one times against Maryland for for two hundred and
forty yards, so he pretty much got a quarter of
his stats. Yeah, was just last weekend, So he's nice
and fresh.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
It is what you're telling.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yeah, nice and for USh.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yes, yeah. Uh. Maryland also bad at football.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
That also a lot of a lot a lot of
bad teams in the Big Ten this year. Yeah, some
some real bottom dwellers, and weirdly none of them are Indiana. Yeah,
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Speaker 1 (19:11):
And be right back. Hey, Kyle, you see the guy
down in the discord chat. You see him?
Speaker 4 (19:24):
They do?
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yes, Yeah, his name's Chucky Chestnut, which is legally distinct
from any other nut based mascots. M legally distinct from
any other nut based mascots. His name is Chucky Chestnut.
It's not CHUCKI Chestnut, not publicly anyway. It's Chucky Chestnut.
(19:49):
All right. Uh yeah, Chucky Chestnut says w and he
drops the mic and he does a lot of cool things.
You should join our discords. Ever, by the way, discord
dot the sloop cast dot always be plugging. We also
have this guy who does that. He doesn't have any
he's just a he's just a little jumping poop with
(20:12):
an m on him for some reason, all right, let's
get into some sloop stairs here. Let's get into this
spa to be probably pretty quick here.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Well, how state player to watch in this one? Jared,
I think you can go a lot of different ways.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Link link linking. Yeah, Lincoln Keenholes. I'm not kidding, that's
my pick.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I don't even know. Honestly, I don't even know who
to pick us. It's you know, I would just say
because he played really well last weekend, kind of out
of the blues, like wait, who who's fifty eight? Who's
that on the field there? I'm gonna pick Van Sickle.
I'm gonna pick Van Sickle.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
They gabe Van Sickle. I say, go for it, all right?
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Enemy player to watch?
Speaker 4 (21:13):
You could?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
You could say the running back there, but I I
feel like that's not the answer. I think he's the
question forty one times forty one times in last weekend here,
he's he's probably gonna be he's probably gonna be tired here.
So I'll go I'll go on the defensive side. I'll say,
jet e lad their safety? Can he can he can
(21:37):
he prevent that? Can he prevent the long place?
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yeah? That makes sense. I'm okay with Greg Shanna. I
think the last time highest they played Rutgers, he and
uh Ryan Day almost got in a fight, and I
think that would make for good television was two years ago.
I think that would make for good television. I want
to see them fight.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
All right, all right, key matchup here? I injuries? Like
like Ohio State getting in, getting in and out? Uh
with no injuries?
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
I mean sure, I'm like, that's not really a matchup.
But screwt key matchup Ryan Day, Greg Chiano, steel cage match. Hmmm,
who in that Columbus Ohio? Honestly probably Greg Ciano?
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Maybe?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
All right?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
The spread and this one is thirty and a half.
So Vegas is telling us that Rutgers is A is
one point better than U C l A last weekend.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
I suppose.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Sure. I mean Rutgers has the better record. Mm hm,
then that's in UCLA. But UCLA is ahead of Rutgers
in conference though with one more win. I'm not sure
what that tells what that really really tells you, though,
But thirty and a half points here it is not enough.
(23:16):
I got the buck used to cover the thirty and
a half. I have the final score Ohio State forty
two and Rutgers somehow gets seven points somewhere because second
and third string we'll get in there.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yeah, I got thirty eight to seven. The touchdown comes
in the fourth quarter against the second string. Cool, all right, Yes,
hely is a cover, and yes I did actually pick
Ohio State not the cover in the sloop picks section
of Collegiate Chaos, but that was done for strategic reasons. Wow,
(24:00):
all right, sure, I'll let it slide, all right. And
last one we have here is Austin's overs. Austin over unders. Okay,
I think.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
For whoever we play the week before the game, I.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Thought maybe he was slacking and normally gave us the
overs this week.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah, all right, calicomanis passing attempts twenty six and a half.
I'm gonna say under, I'll say under.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Yeah, I just don't feel like they're gonna have the
ball that much. Quite frankly, that's that's my thinking too. Yeah,
so I'm gonna go under.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Right.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Turnovers, total turnover total game turnovers at two and a half, honestly,
doesn't really get that many turnovers. And they also don't Yeah,
they don't cause a lot of turnovers and they don't
really give up a lot of turnovers either, So two
and a half. So are you saying there's three or more.
(25:07):
I'll take the under.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Uh yeah, uh yeah, I mean all the things, Kyle said.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I agree, okay, all right, Styles, both styles tackles at
twelve and a.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Half man Again, like, I just don't know how many snaps.
I don't how many opportunities for tackles there's gonna be
now you get both of them. And I think Elder
Styles does play special teams, so there's a little bit
(25:45):
more opportunity there coverage special teams. He obviously plays return
special teams. Yeah, I'm gonna go under.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah, I was thinking under as well. All right, we
have e lad, Jabom and right tackles combined for twenty
two and.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
A half linebacker, linebacker in safety, three of their four
Kyle said, they have four guys leading in tackles. That's
three of them. Twenty two and a half. There's three
of them. It's about seven or so a piece. Yeah,
(26:44):
I think it's going to run the ball a lot.
Me give me the over.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I'll go under Maryland. Maryland ran the ball almost thirty times,
but they obviously didn't and other of them very much
of those those three guys there, they got fifteen tackles.
I'm going under.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
You might be right on that one. That's good research,
all right.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Porter Cacumeric and Robert catches at three and a half.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Ooh, matches.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I like yeah, catches. I like this. I'm going over.
I'll go over.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Why huh.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Porter Kackimeric and Robert. Yeah, Robert's catches three and a half.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Now, it's just it's a weird trio. That's all. Yeah,
I'll go over, okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
And last one here, he has Duff and Raymond combined
rushing and receiving yards at eighty eight and a half.
That seems really low. That seems really low. I'll go
over on that.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I'm gonna go under. I don't think they get anything
done this weekend, all right.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
And last one stay in completion at seventy five point
two percent.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
What was he last week? It was about that. It
was I feel like that's a he was.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I'm trying. I'm trying to quickly pull it up here.
It's not it's not pulling it up quick enough for
me here.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Just just talking, just keep talking.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Twenty three He was twenty three for thirty one, which
is a seventy four point two percent, So a little
bit better, is what he is saying. Yeah, and especially
if like if you have JJ out, you have HET,
(28:54):
you have a lot of your other starters out as
well too, potentially, like maybe that might be lower.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
It might be, but I gotta go.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
I gotta go with what his average is, which is
still above eighty percent, So I'll go over.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yeah. I will once again point out that Rutgers passing defense,
although not as bad as their rushing defense, is still
absolutely atrocious. Yeah, give me the over all?
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Right, awesome? So we have two differences in this one here,
Jared and I am up by two going into this week.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
See how I'm only down by two in this one,
So I could just make my picks. The other one,
I have to game the system. I just have to
game the system. I don't have a choice. There's limited
opportunity to catch you.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Yeah, all right, And that is Austin's over unders here,
do you, Jared want a fun, fun little pit stat
here that I just happened to glance. It's over regarding
to the Big Ten. I know I've mentioned mentioned about
ten minutes ago about how terrible the Big Ten is.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Is this s Kyle's corner?
Speaker 2 (30:12):
I don't know. Maybe, first off, the Big ten is
not terrible.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I dispute that there are some terrible teams in the
Big Ten.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
The last ten CFP rankings, like like they're up until
through the last rankings, so the last ten of them.
So that goes. That goes so far this year, all
last year, and going into the twenty twenty three as well,
(30:42):
the Big ten has had the number one team in
each of the last ten CFP rankings. Has State so
far all this year, Oregon all last year and then
those cheeters up north team had the last one asterisk. Yeah,
so we'll do we'll do We'll do ten asterisks, or
(31:04):
we can just say the last nine rankings that.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
That doesn't count, all right? Was that Kyle's corner? Sorry?
I think I answered that, and I don't remember what
you said.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I have a Yeah, Buckey's back basketball team with a
big win against Notre Dame. No I call.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Everyone's turning the podcast off. You can't talk about it.
It's it's November, it's Ohio. You can't talk about basketball.
People are good window. People are turning the podcast off
because you were bringing up the basketball team. I can
see our retention rates. You can go on YouTube, you
(31:50):
can see their attention rates, and I'm seeing them Crater.
It was a good win, though, Okay, that's all I
was saying. That's all on take, okay, And all I'm
saying is is that you're creating our retention.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Rates, all right. And all I'm saying is that we
are that much closer. We are one day closer to
the game.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
And that's all really all that matters at this point, Excite,
except for Wreckers records matters. Blah blah, all right, because
you're supposed to say that, you have to say that,
all right. Anyway, tonight's ending music brought to you by
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Let's go up, stutun.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
On the court.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Step one out the love, the one out, my patient woe.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Out and it kills me the hospital subject I been
jud fear out me under such shall let out?
Speaker 1 (33:12):
You want you tipped down?
Speaker 5 (33:14):
That block full of pips? Enough stop off.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
For change, just to step in the shadows.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
He'll let me catch you up.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
Remember I don't meet.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Your brandy stuff in closing your time in just step
reaching far out from my head that she wants help
yourself in every alighting the host subject, I mean judgment,
fear out the under such shall let down that I
became the stands to you.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
I not trying to step on a deer.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
And step into wind uer boots.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
So let's come to that place A way we go?
We are was him? Well that was the shun shut
him go that close? Got step out here, I stepping
(34:16):
to be up the road.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Getting adop the stakes.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Do you I think we should stay here for a
trio golf? And it looks like the shade and super
things follow with them.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
See you have in this so they could breathing here anyway,
(35:11):
So so well wa go call wat walked out, Well.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
We do want to shut out a shot out of
the way. Second nine
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