Over/Unders 2025 | Camp SloopCast

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Anchor's up sells it full. Welcome to this slip. Guests,
you're doing today, Kyle.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Doing our Jared Dune, all right, how are you doing today?

Speaker 1 (00:08):
I'm doing good. I'm doing good. I'm doing good, all right.
New tradition, good tradition. And speaking of traditions, Kyle, how
many years now have we been doing not just Austin's
overs Austin's over unders Austin says five, but also Austin's

(00:33):
season long over unders as a as a vehicle for
little preseason talk. Austin says five.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
I was going to I was going to guess like four.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
He is our Lord Master General as not only as
I not only as he are over unders Guru, but
he is also our lor Master General. He says. First
one was in twenty twenty one. So there you go. Nice,
there you go. Asked and answered, Hey, chat, what do

(01:08):
you think of the What do you think of our
new frame? This is our new frame? What do you
think video YouTube folk? What do you think of our
of our new frame? He also wants everything to know
he is a ball knower, so we got that going
for us.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
We've got a lot of questions, Jared, a lot of questions,
how many we have? We have twenty seven twenty seven.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
That's a peculiar number.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
That is a peculiar number. But let's let's just go
ahead and jump right into.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
And I would like to say the first question. I
have read none of these ahead of time.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Same here. I've only copied and put them into a
table format, put them in the show notes, and that's
all I've done. So so here we go. All right, Uh,
first one, James People's rushing yards, he has over under

(02:09):
over under one. Excuse me, one thousand and twelve and
a half.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Really, it means it's solipecific. It's a very solid number.
I say, a lot of it will obviously depend upon health.
It'll depend upon the split, Like is it gonna be
like a fifty to fifty with Donaldson? Because while I
like Donaldson and I like People's, this isn't gonna be

(02:39):
Henderson and Judkins.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Before you before you answer, Austin does bring up a
good point here. All these over unders is for the
regular season, so twelve games through twelve games, sure.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
So I think there's just a lot of unknowns. Health
isn't unknown, the level of split is an unknown. I
will say, I do expect Dolphensive line to be much
better this year. So that's an advantage, you know, even
though I don't. I don't People's and Donaldson and I don't.
I don't want to be disrespectful because I think they're
gonna be good this year. But you don't get Henderson

(03:16):
and Judkins every year like that. That's an insane combo,
and they aren't that. So I'm gonna go I'm gonna
go under here.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
I agree, I'm gonna go under as well. H I
just think that the split is gonna be too much.
And yeah, I just I love James Peoples, I love
I love the running backs here at Ohio State. But
that's just a lot. That's just a lot. And unless

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he just has just a crazy year, which we've seen
a number of running backs over the years at Ohio
State just all of a sudden, just out of nowhere,
and they just have a they just have a spectacular
first year, like official first year as as like taking
the bulk of the carries. But I'm I'm just gonna

(04:11):
go with under here.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Okay, all right?

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Sonny Styles the Bloco recipient, yes, newly minted total tackle
total tackles again through twelve games is set at ninety
two and a half.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
That's I mean, it's totally achievable. It's a good number.
I wonder how so Okay, so here here's the problem. One,
there's a lot of talented people on this defense. It's
almost more difficult. It's almost more difficult to get a

(04:54):
ton of tackles on a really talented defense.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Go ahead, guess how many tackles he had last year?

Speaker 1 (05:00):
How many? Just take a guess, Just just tell me, right.
A lot of it will depend upon defensive tackle play
because that keeps the blockers off of them.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
But but that that is through that is through sixteen
games though as well.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Correct, Absolutely, I just don't see it being that big
of an increase over last year because I you know,
and I'm not gonna ask you to find out what
his tackle total was through twelve last year. But it
probably wasn't ninety two or ninety three. I guess is
what you would need you'd be picked those. Austin says

(05:46):
it was seventy eight. Austin has the number. Apparently. Yeah,
I just don't see it being that big of an
improvement because I don't see this team whatever, I don't
see these two teams or I don't see this team
versus last year's team taking I don't think it will
be as good as last year's defense, but I also

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don't think it'll be statistically that much worse. I don't
think they're gonna be on the field a lot. I
think there's gonna be a lot of talented guys around
him that will be getting tackles instead of him. It's
almost easier, like I was saying before, to get a
ton of tackles on like a medium defense because you're
on the field more because there aren't is you aren't

(06:28):
competing with your own teammates for tackles. So I'm gonna
go under here.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah, I agree. I think I think we'll be the
under as well, like a hundred. Usually when you have
that many tackles, it's you're you're having to to You're
like the guy. You're the guy making plays. You have
to make plays to to keep the defense off the field,
and somebody status doesn't really need really need to do that.

(06:58):
He's got other playmakers on the field there.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Well, he is the guy, but he's not the guy
as in.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
The only only guy, like like we've seen other teams
where it like the middle linebacker or or a safety
or defensive end is the one that's making pretty much
all the plays or most of the plays to get
the defense off the field. Sunny Styles isn't really gonna
need to have to be that.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
You know, who racks up a ton of tackles a
line like a middle linebacker or a safety who is
an NFL like a future NFL guy, but plays on
a MAC team. That dude racks up tackles because again,
it's not a race to the ball carrier. He's the
guy making tackles and his team potentially you know, playing

(07:51):
level competition blah blah blah, but is on going to
be on the field more. That's the type of guy
who racks up an insane number of tackles.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
True aditionally mm hm oh what's what was his name?
This was years ago. This was years ago when Braxton
Miller Klei Mack.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
It kind of kind of like kind of like, yeah,
the Buffalo bulls uh defensive end Mac, Yeah, having to
make all the kind of plays, getting up interception of
pick six, getting multiple sacks like the difference uh maker
like Sony Simons doesn't have to be that kind of guy.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
I agree that's as well.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, all right, Atkinson and Hicks tackle for loss and
sacks combined at fifteen and a half.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Hicks tackles for loss and sacks. Hicks probably not the
starting I mean, I don't know. I think they'll both
be in heavy irrotation. I think is all that really matters.
I don't know, because I think both of them are

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gonna be on the field like fifty to fifty right
with their defensive end counterparts. Atkinson's gonna be splitting carrier
or not carries, but snaps and and and so is Hicks.
The TFLs really help carry this though. I'm gonna say over.

(09:41):
If it was just sacks, i'd say under, but the
TFLs will probably get them there.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, I'm gonna go. I'll go over as well too.
I think I think if you're concluding tackle for losses
as well too, Yeah, I'm gonna I'll go with over again.
I'm not no, they're not. They're not the same. But
if you look at J. T. Tuy Malou and Jack
Sawyer for what they've had for sax and and tackle

(10:11):
for losses combined, double it double that they doubled that.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
But yeah, they're they're not.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
They're not. They're not. They're not Jack and JT. But
I think I think they can.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
They also aren't going to get the same number of
snaps as Jack and JT got. Yeah, that's the biggest part.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
All right, So we both went over for that one.
All right. Uh, car Now Tate, Cardinals, Tate, who I
think is going to be an absolute stud this year.
I know everybody's looking at number four, but I think
the defense mm hmm yeah, uh catch us for the

(10:55):
year at fifty two and a half last year, Yeah, yeah,
fifty two Okay, but but again that's I'd have to
go back and look at what he had minus sure
minus so it's seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, so minus eleven,
so that's forty one. He had forty one through catches

(11:16):
during the season during the Yeah, during.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
The regular season.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
I'll go over, I'll go over here, I'll.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
I'll say under, No, I won't, I'll say over. I
really wanted to say under there, but I can't.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
All Right, that one nice and easy offensive lineman to
start a game seven and a half.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Who oh, that's a that's a weird question. Yeah, go on,
Brennan Innis is a captain. I understand that, but Innis
is like he's still gonna be the slot guy.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Like you.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
You take out a Mecca Buca, you put in Brennan
and us. I just feel like the catches that are
gonna go to the slaughter, the catches that are gonna
go to the slot. Last year's number was nine. I'm
gonna go I'm gonna go over here. Then I'm gonna

(12:21):
go over.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
We'll go all right, our first difference here finally starting
quarterback passing yards three and thirteen and a half yards
for the season.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
All right, now, Kyle, I probably don't even have to
ask you. You've been doing it all show last year.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
I am looking. I'm trying to look real quick.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Okay, in the future, I'll just ask you, so you
have a minute to look it up.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
All right, Let's see last year Will Howard had four
tho and ten yards and then Julian Stain had eighty
four yards. But four It wasn't the starting, he wasn't
the starting.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
But that foury ten was through sixteen games.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
That was through sixteen games.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Okay, so I'm gonna go over. I'm gonna go over
I'm also gonna for what it's worth, I'm going to
interpret this as being whoever starts the game, so it
doesn't have to be a single quarterback. You start the game,

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you're the starter. You get the stats for that game.
So this is kind of not injury proof but injury resistant.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Two and sixty yards by Will Howard last year through
twelve games.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Dang, you got that many during the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Three hundred and eleven yards, three hundred and nineteen yards,
two hundred and eighty nine yards, two hundred and thirty
one yards.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
I think he said twenty eight hundred, did you not?

Speaker 2 (14:12):
I said twenty eight hundred and sixty yards. Yeah, so
one thousand yards less than what almost a thousand yards
less than what Austin is saying here. Yeah, I'm I'm
gonna go under. I'll go under. That's it seemed seems
like a seems.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Like a lot saying if saying hits his full potential
this year, and I'm not even saying like game one,
but if he really hits his full potential, and not
to mention like I know, and.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
This is gonna be a scary sentence to say out loud,
but Jeremiah Smith is now playing as a second year player.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah. Crazy, that's the big thirty eight yards a game.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
That's supposed to be the big leap season. Second year
as a starter is supposed to be like where you
take the biggest leap as a player. But I mean,
you know, year three Jeremiah Smith. Again, normal rules don't

(15:25):
necessarily apply to JJ. But theoretically, you know, college players
as a whole, you take your biggest leap in your
second year. Now again, normal rules maybe don't apply to him.
If Saint can hit guys in stride for extra yak,

(15:47):
he can hit the over. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
But we've seen in the past, though, Jared, where second
year isn't as good as their first year. Like first
thing that comes to my mind is JK Dobbins stellar
Stelle our first year, second year not as stellar, but
then came back in year three. Then, yeah, with a
with a big improvement from his second year. Hopefully that's

(16:12):
not the case, but it's it has happened in the past.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
We are actually more talented at pass catcher this year somehow. Well,
JJ's in his second year, Carnel Tait is in his
second year as a starter, and we got a massive
pass catching upgrade at tight end. That's how you lose
a Mecca. I mean, in all due respect to Ennis,
who I think is gonna be great this year, he

(16:40):
just not innus as far as experience at the very
least is concerned. Yeah, but you upgraded at all. You
upgraded at three out of four positions as far as
your regular pass catchers go.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
All right. Next one here is Boo Jackson.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Bo Jackson touches, so touches in general rushing, receiving thirty
one and returning. Not that I think he's gonna get it.
I don't. I don't think both. I don't think both
going to do that thirty one and not returning.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
I'm gonna. I'm gonna say over simply because if either
of the if either of the quote unquote normal starters,
the top two guys get hurt till hit this. So
I'll hit over, just because, again, the likelihood that one
of the two starting running backs misses a few games

(17:45):
this season is you know, relatively high. I'll take over.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Last year. So last year, since we consider if bo
Jackson is considered running back three, last year oh State's
running back at three, which was James People's had forty
forty nine touches in there you go, and that was
forty fifty fifty if you can count one reception yard

(18:11):
one reception fifty was that through twelve? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
It's fine, it's fine, it's fine. You don't have to
look it up. But that that was with no serious
time loss from either Henderson or quin Shawn.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
So mhm, I feel good. I do have the I
do have the number. It's forty three.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Okay, I'm gonna go over on this one. Three touches
pretty I think three. The thing about, of course, the potential,
the potential like turn in the punch bowl on this
one is if they try to only get him to

(19:02):
use up four games through the first twelve games to
preserve a red shirt. That's kind of the danger on
this one. Yeah, I don't think they will.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
For the record, I think I think that's a good
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(19:36):
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(19:56):
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Speaker 4 (20:07):
So.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
We'll take that first ad break and be right back.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
All right, Kyle, what's next?

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Al Right? Next up here, Jared, we have have state
team offensive turnovers at ten and a half.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Offensive turnovers at pretty I mean, that's less than one
per game with a with a with a freshman, well
not freshman, but first year quarterback. You know he's gonna

(20:57):
throw a few picks during the early.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Go I don't know through twelve games, but for the
duration of the twenty four twenty five season, Ohio State
had fifteen turnovers.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Less than one per game. And this would be to
hit the over on this, you would also need one
less than one per game.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Through ten picks. Oh, eight picks. I'm going to guess
eight picks through through twelve games.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Yeah, but Howard go over. Howard was a fifth year quarterback.
We have a second year quarterback with zero experience.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Yeah thought, my thoughts exactly. You got a really young quarterback.
You got some talented but so inexperienced running backs.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Well, Donaldson's experience, but people's is not. And depending upon
if bo Jackson gets in, he's a true freshman. You know,
a true freshman first year starter in James Peoples are
more likely to cough the ball up.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
And you don't have Trevion Henderson, who's just does not
turn the ball over at all. So you don't, you don't.
You don't have that kind of player as well too,
So I'll go with over. Yep, you go over as well, Jared, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
all right, all right. Next up Brandon Innes receiving yards

(22:31):
for the regular season twelve games at six hundred and
fifty five and uh half.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
What did a Mecca have last year? Spikes? I gotta
think the I gotta think that the bubble I know
I'm talking to Spikes, buy you sometime. The bubble screen
meta has to be dead by now right, The bubbles
green meta has to be dead. Spike says, seven and
forty three yards. Take a few off because you have

(23:07):
a freshman quarterback. Take a few off because you know,
a Mecca was a fifth year player and Inness is
in his first year starting. Although plenty experienced, he's not
really not fair to just call him a first year starter.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Mecca Mecca had through twelve games sety three yards.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah, that's yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
I under. I'll go under man.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
It's just it's just you have you have a you
have a first year starting quarterback, and that is such
a that is such a wild card. Just just based
off of the wild card of the unknown ness at quarterback,
I will go under as well.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah, he's going to be wide ass open in the slot.
You aren't wrong.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
There's somebody else who's going to wide ass open in
the middle too, who's a lot bigger who's a lot
bigger target for saying, Yody, indeed, Yody, indeed? All right,
we both went under. Yes, all right, all right, Caleb

(24:20):
Downs talk about the defense here. Caleb Downs interceptions, forced fumbles,
fumber covers and deflections said at seven and a half.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
I'll take over. I'm not I'm just taking that over.
I'm just hitting the over on that and I'm hitting
it hard.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Surprised to tell you, Jared he had through the first
twelve games. Caleb only had one interception. Okay in the
in the regular season. Let's see if this is correct.
It says three past deflections during the regular season. Okay, uh,

(25:11):
no force fumbles, no fumble recoveries. So I'm going off
of last year.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
That's still free. I'm still hitting the over on this.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
I'm still hitting the over as well. Yeah, I'm still
hitting the over.

Speaker 5 (25:25):
All.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Right. Jeremiah Smith finally talking about Jeremiah after what this
is like the tenth or eleventh one here, Jeremiah Smith
total over whatever it is over It says the spikes
Jeremiah Smith total touchdowns over under at eighteen and a half.

(25:50):
He gets over eighteen and a half. I know there's
already Heisman talks already, but man, if he has over
eighteen and a half, he is he has a He's
a Heisman finalist.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
He had eleven through twelve periods.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
He says, spikes, God, eighteen and a half. Yeah, he'd
have to get nineteen touchdowns through twelve games. How is
It's actually insane? I'm actually even thinking about this. I'm
gonna say under.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
I mean, that's DeVonta Smith Heisman right there. Type of season.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Because listen, there's four other three other four but three
other starting pass catchers on this team that can also
score touchdowns. And that's not even talking about the backup crew,
who was also insanely talented. But Jared, we play Grambling State,

(26:51):
which just means that the starters, including Jeremiah Smith, probably
an't gonna play much in the second half. They have
an insanely talent talented backup crew of wide receivers.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah, I'm as much as a lot of people want
to say over.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
That's a lot, it's too much. I'm going to get stunduch,
it's un Yeah, I'm going under.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
I think the number. I think the numbers. I think
the numbers like thirteen and a half. I would say
thirteen and a half, fourteen and a half.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Through twelve games, I'd be tempted. I'd be tempted at
like fourteen and a half, fifteen and a half. Eighteen
and a half is just crazy.

Speaker 6 (27:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
But the thing is, though, is that it's possible, just
not likely. Yes, it's just not likely.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah, all right, Team sex for Ohio State under at
twenty eight and a half under. Last year, OHIOSE had
fifty three sacks, and.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
A ton of those, a ton of the okay, thirty
five through twelve games, spikes is on it?

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Wow, are you yeah?

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah? No, no, no, there were a ton. There were tons
in the playoffs. Here's the thing, because here's the thing.
In the Big Ten, no one tries to pass, No
one tries to like sit in the pocket against Ohio State.
No one even tries it anymore. This is why the
sack numbers are always so bad. Then you get into
the playoffs and a bunch of these teams are like, now,

(28:32):
we can sit in the pocket against Ohio State. We're Texas,
We're Tennessee, we're from the SEC, We're Oregon. We beat
the brakes off of them during the regular season. We
can sit in the pocket. We can do it. And
then that's the high State starts racking up sacks. No
one even lets Ohio State try to get sacks. And
this has been true since the Bosa Young era. They

(28:58):
they are two steps in the balls out el. This
has been the meta within the Big Ten against Ohio
State since, like I said, Bosa the Bosa Young era
at Ohio State.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Under in half. Just sounds so low, I understand, just
sounds so low.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
It's it's a you'd have to get a little bit
over to per game.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Mm hmm, I'll go over, I'll go I'll go over here.
I don't I don't think it's I don't think it's
much more than twenty and a half. But yeah, I'm
gonna say over. I'm trying. I'm trying to find I
trust I trust that, Uh, the Spikes number is right there.
But god, that is a huge difference.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
No, they racked up a ton of sacks in the
post season.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
So four games and they had eighteen sacks in four games.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
I'm telling you.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Someone led a fire under their asses.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yeah it was Michigan. I hate to break it.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
To you, all right. Next up C J. Donaldson rushing
attempts at ninety five and a half.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Um, I'm gonna go under.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Yeah, I'll go under as well. Yeah, I was trying to.
I was trying to see if I can quickly pull up. Uh.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Judkins and Henderson Jkins.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Through twelve Henderson had a lot. Henderson had a lot
of carries. Overall, he had one hundred and forty four carries. Yeah,
and oh damn, okay, never mind. Judkins had a lot more.

(31:00):
The Judge and Henderson. Never mind, I own what I'm thinking. Uh,
I'm still going to go under.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Yes, but once again out through twelve and you're you're
looking sure, you're looking at sixteen.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
All right, Ohio State passing yards against per game at
one hundred and eighty two and a half. So defense
allowing one hundred and eighty two and a half yards
per game.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Through the air.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Through the air, I'll go under on that.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Secondary somehow got better.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Well here here's here's here's another thing. Look at who
who ah State's going to be playing and the quarterbacks
that they're going to be playing against. Is there is.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
There that's in the NFL spikes?

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Is there anybody? Is there anybody that is really worth
fearing in the air that Ahis State has to go
up against in the regular season in the regular season. Texas, Okay,
there's Texas.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
That was there, there was a period after that, not
a comma.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
And then there's Penn State.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
No, listen, we might lose against Penn State, but I
do not fear them through the air.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
But let's let's let's play Devio's advocate. Haw State goes
up big and then they have to throw the ball
more too. Yeah, you're right, I'm going.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
To say there is a period after I said Texas.
Did I put a period after it? That was not
a comma, That was not a line break. That was
me saying Texas then putting a period after it. M hmm.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
I was trying to trying to quickly pull up, which
I had that little pause here again through through sixteen games. Sure,
and actually it's worth average, It's actually it's actually it's
actually a lot better during the regular season, even with

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Oregon throwing it for two hundred ninety nine yards, Texas
for two hundred and eighty three yards, Notre Dame for
two hundred and fifty five yards through sixteen games a
state let up one hundred and sixty seven in the year.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Yeah, that was including getting lit lit up by Oregon
early in the season. Yeah, so you get lit up
by Texas, you still have.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Through the regular season one and forty four in a quarter.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Crazy. Yeah, I'm happy with my underpick there.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Yep, all right, Max Claire, yes on card Maybe Max
Claire catches that are not touchdowns twenty seven and a half.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
I'm so tempted just to say over but like, how many,
how many? How many receptions are there to go around? Like,
there's only so many plays. Oh, sure, Donaldson will get
one hundred carries this year, and yeah, of course you
know Jackson will get thirty two carries this year, and
of course you know Carnel Tate's gonna get fifty five

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catches and blah blah blah. But how many how many
touches are there actually to go around?

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Max Claire last year had fifty one receptions and four touchdowns.
Again granted perdue, perdue.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Not a lot of touchdown opportunities in West Lafayette last year.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
But he also was like the focus of their offense.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Yeah, I'll go I'll go over, I'll go over just
mainly I'm going to stick with my with my I'll
go under theme of young young you're going under.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
I think, so how there's so many touches to to
to there?

Speaker 2 (35:22):
There were so many touches around, but maybe early on
you got a big target, you got a young quarterback.
Tight ends are usually their their best friend there. So
I'll go over, I'll go over.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
How many how many snaps are there for an offense
with the new clock rules? I think it's I think,
ohiota maybe had like seventy a game last year. Suntguard
also said seventy. There are less snaps now than there
were a few years ago because of the new clock rules.

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There's only seventy touches per game for an offense. Then
you know there's gonna be incomplete and that not touches snaps.
Then there's gonna be some incomplete passes in there. There's
gonna be you know, random catches by players who we
aren't counting. There's only so many touches to go around.

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There's gonna be some quarterback runs, some quarterbacks sacks.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
In the twenty twenty fourth season, how State averaged sixty
three point nine offensive place per game, which was eighteenth
in the country.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Just saying there's only there's only so many snaps to
go around.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Sure, all right, So I went over, Jared went under
on max catches that are not touchdowns at twenty seven
and a half.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
It's a good more for the record.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
It's it's it's a closed more real quick here. So
Jermaine Matthews interceptions at three and a half.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Interceptions are very hard to predict. They are. I think
most of your interceptions are probably gonna come from safeties
this year.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Yeah, I'll go under. I'll go under, oh State.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Like, four interceptions is a lot, especially if you're you're
projected to be a very good defense. Who again you
want to talk about just there's not that many snaps
to go around. If you're playing really well as a defense,
there's not that many snaps to go around. This is
why I went under on Sunny in the in the
in the tackle predictions, there.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Was only a through through the sixteen games, I'll say
it only had ten interceptions on defense.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Yeah, I don't expect some huge increase this year.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
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Speaker 1 (39:22):
All right, I'm betting Day wants to mute the reliance
on Max until the playoffs. I don't know if you
can play games like that when you got a first
year starting quarterback, to be honest, block fifteenth letter. Okay, Kyle,

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what's next?

Speaker 2 (39:48):
All right? Next up here is tackles by the starting
defensive tackles at sixty six and a half seems like
a lot for defensive tackles.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
Especially since I don't I don't I feel like we're
expecting a lot like that'd be thirty thirty three for
each plus.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
One Tileak had forty Leak tylerk had forty six tackles
through sixteen games. Yeah, I'll go under.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
I'm gonna go under. He said the he said the
Spike says the combo had seventy two through twelve last year.
This would have hit over last year. Wow, they will
rotate more this year. Probably not a defensive tackle, to
be honest, and unless there's some, I mean you almost

(40:47):
kind of have to because it's defensive tackle. But they're
not as they're not nearly as deep at defensive tackle
this year as they were last year. What you and
what you might see some this year, and what ty
Leak was really good at was playing on pass downs,
and you might see more tackles pulled during passl towns
the next year or this year, this upcoming year, because

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I think the Ti Leak was a good pass rusher
at defensive tackle and Houston probably will be. But they
have a lot of pass rushers, so they're probably gonna
look to get as many of them on the field
as possible.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
All right, Next up here is how State Sex given
up at twelve and a half.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
One per game, but you have a freshman quarterback.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Are it will be a better offensive line?

Speaker 1 (41:42):
I don't know how arguable it is, to be honest,
I think it's just a better offensive line. I'm gonna
go over just freshman quarter now, he's not a freshman,
but his first year starting quarterback. Heep calling him a freshman. Yeah,
I don't even think. Well, he's not even a red
shirt freshman. He's a sophomore. Right, it's saying red shirt.

(42:03):
I don't even know. It doesn't matter. He's a second
he's a second year quarterback who's gonna be here for
next year. This year and next year. I feel pretty
confident in saying that, so it kind of doesn't matter.
That's why I don't know. I think he's at Ohio
State for the next two years regardless. Were you both

(42:24):
under on the d tackles? Yes, yes, we were, Yes,
and we were both over on sacks given up yep.
Kyle's also taking notes right spikes in case you want to,
like just crosscheck to be sure.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Quincy Porter catches for the year for the season eleven
and a half, so a catch per game by Quincy Porter.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
I'm gonna just there's god, I'm gonna say over but
demand there's really only so many catches to go around.
But you know, twelve twelve seems attainable. Problem is is
that I almost see like more of these coming, like
like almost in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
I'll go over. Yeah, I'll actually go over on this
one as well too. Just looking at again, looking at
this schedule here, like there are opportunities for for these
younger players to get in here. Looking at again, look
at the schedule Grambling, Ohio, Minnesota, h H, Purdue, u

(43:37):
C l A, Rutgers, a lot of a lot of
opportunities for for Quincy to get his touches in here.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
So yeah, problem is those out of control games are
more likely to help Bo Jackson hit his over than
they are to hit than they are for Quincy Porter
to get his That's.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
That's that's fair. But we did go over or Bo
Jackson touches as well.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
Yeah, as Spike says, we tend not to throw much
when the backups go in.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Yeah, layers with a touchdown mm hmm twelve and a half.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
So I'm interpreting this as literally anyone offense, defense, special teams,
total team. This is how I am interpreting this question.
Austin had to leave, so he's not here to say otherwise.
So that's that's that's how we're doing this. Ryan Day

(44:38):
might have one, three separate running backs, three separate tight ends,
four separate five separate wide receivers. So what I just
was last year was eleven eleven just including with a touchdown,

(45:02):
including Caleb downs on the punt return, like total total
including well Jack Sawyer was in the clods. That didn't happen.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Oh yeah, Oh, I didn't even think about that.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
So Jack Sawyer gets a touchdown, but he didn't because
it wasn't in the first twelve games. So for the
sake of this, it did.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Okay, So that's twelve, there's thirteen, there's fourteen, so fourteen players.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
Yeah, I'm going to go over on this. It's a
good number.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Yeah, I'll go over as well. Right, Ohio State final
CFP ratings after the conference the conference championship game five
and a half, So you're projecting down two doing the
Big ten or not to win the Big Ten.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Do the new rules going to effect this year or
is it now next year?

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Where it's I'm pretty sure it's anywhere you're going, Jared,
I'm pretty sure it's twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
So the top so one through four are conference champions period.
That is still the rule for this upcoming season. Yes,
that's my understanding. It's not until next the it's not
until the twenty twenty sixth season. I forget our conference
champions seeded one, two, three, and four for this season,

(46:30):
and when the chat.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
No, I'm I'm trying to look real quick, I believe it. Yeah,
we're out of ad Breaks Spikes, we are out of Albert. Yeah,
it's it's it's the same from what I'm seeing.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Okay, it's the same this year. It's the same. This year.
It's the same this year. Let's let's just go with that,
all right. So the question is almost because you could
still because there's there's still the fifth spot, so you
could be the first non conference champ. You could be
the highest ranked non conference champion. So say Oregon wins
the conference, you could still be the fifth team. I'm

(47:18):
gonna go over what does vamp?

Speaker 2 (47:21):
I'm sorry No, as of twenty twenty five, I found
it from ncublea dot com. Here, the team's ranked one
through four will also be seated one through four.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
Okay, then I switch my answer and I will now
go under.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Yeah, I'm going under. Yeah, convenient time in Kyle.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
Wait the laughter, Jared answers, can you imagine if you
tried to hardball me and not let me switch it.
What does vamp mean? Vamp is when you I don't
It's when you just try and fill time with noise.
Like they'll do it on stage a lot if something

(48:03):
like is going wrong on stage, or maybe the lead
singer is maybe doing a speech, you know, he's talking
about something, and the band will just sort of keep
playing the same few seconds of the song over and
over again just to sort of provide background. That's what
vamping is. But why that world?

Speaker 3 (48:22):
Right?

Speaker 1 (48:23):
I don't know the etymology of it.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
The new policy guarantees the five highest ranked conference champions
a lace in the playoff, but will no longer include
a buy for the four highest ranked champions. Okay, the
twelve team bracket will not be seated directly based on
the final rankings, but the four highest ranking teams receiving
the first round.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
By don't you put your asterisks on me? Do I
look like Jim Harbaugh to you? Next question?

Speaker 2 (48:51):
Kyle Rees impact plays for the regular season tackle for losses, sack,
pass breakups, fumble, fumble recoveries, and interceptions, ten and a half.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Tackle for loss, sack, pass breakup, force, fumble, fumble recovery
and interceptions. The TFLs will carry him over on this,
So I'm gonna go over.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Yeah, I'll go over. I'll go over as well. If
not at last year, you can't look at last year's stats,
no any any any kind of stats at all from him,
just because of the amount of play time he had.
So yeah, I'll go. I just I think I think
the lineback I think the linebackers this year are going
to eat. They're gonna eat this year. If TfL most

(49:41):
of we've probably seen in many years at Ohio.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
State, Cody Simon had eight and a half TFLs. Yeah,
I'm I and I don't know if he's gonna do
what Cody Simon did. He's not nearly his experience as
Cody Simon, although might be more athletic. But yeah, I'll
if not for the TFLs that had gone under here,

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but the TFLs should carry the day.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Well, he had almost he had almost half of that
just last year with the limited time that he played. Yeah,
iggy iggy, pass interference or holding penalties at five and
a half really really austin twenty four and a half

(50:32):
he has here, it's five and a half over lovey Iggy,
but it's over.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
Yeah, that's it. That's that's that's the sweat well high
state players to win post season national awards.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
I'm sorry. I had a look at a look at
how many penalties Iggy had last year. He had twelve
pass interference in three holdings.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
Austin is being nice with that number, like you you
were you you were ripping Austin for for including that,
and maybe that's still wrong to include that, but that
number is very very nice.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
And I love Iggy. I love Iggy.

Speaker 4 (51:24):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
I say players win postseason national awards this year? So
and number one and a half, So does anyone other
than J. J. Smith when the national award this year?
Caleb downs? Caleb Downs, so.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Here here here, Okay, postseason national awards? That is that's
so tough.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
I think he and I think he's specifically talking about trophies.
I don't think he's talking about all Americans. I think
he's talking you know, the Remington, the Outland, the correct
it's it is. We're gonna say, we're gonna say no,
American does not count.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
It is so tough, and it's some's sometimes it's political
and sometimes it's so Yeah, I'm gonna say under.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
I'll say under as well. Ohio State games with over
two hundred rushing yards in a game and set set
that at four and a half games.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Oh god, so like Grambling. How many like cupcakes are
on the schedule this year?

Speaker 2 (52:42):
I think I named them earlier, So Grambling State, Ohio?

Speaker 1 (52:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (52:47):
Uh, do you consider Washington?

Speaker 1 (52:50):
Maybe you're considered Nothington Washington's not a cup Minnesota, No, Kyle,
Kyle cupcake, lower the bar, cupcake.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Erambling State, Ohio? Uh, due, UCLA and Rutgers. That's one, two, three,
four five.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
I don't know if Rutgers is cupcake, although U c.
L A probably is. I'll go over on this.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
Yeah, I'm thinking over. I'm thinking over as well. Finally,
your yearly special bonus, Dames, we give about the whole
state of those cheaters up North.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
The cheaters up North, the cheater up North team. Yes,
the cheater up North team. Yeah, don't think about that
too hard. It is under it it is, it is,
in fact under.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
It is our one given point every year.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
Yes, damns, we give for the cheating up North team. Kyle,
were you over or onunder? On Quincy Porter over yeah,
we're both over all, right, Kyle, that's the show. There
you go, Yeah, go ahead, Sorry you no, No, Kyle's corner.

(54:14):
What what's in it anything?

Speaker 2 (54:18):
Actually? I did have one quick thing here. Uh you know,
I think we mentioned it real brief in a previous episode,
Ohio status changing or revamping or I forget the exact
term that they use of the enhanced tradition, enhanced tradition,
that's what it was.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
Such talk, but please go ahead.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
So they're also ringing the victory bell at the beginning
of the during the pregame.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
That's what it is.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
During the pregame, they are ringing the victory bell, and
rightfully so. The first the first person to to ring
the victory bell to in the pregame, it's no known over,
none other than the only two time Heisman winning player,
the great number forty five Archie Griffin.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
Nice over under on the games. Until the official song
is is changed three point five people are I don't know.
I feel like whatever they were gonna pick, people were
gonna hyper scrutinize. I like the Camp song. I like Camp.

(55:33):
I like the song they chose from Camp. I feel
like people are hating on it just because it's changed
and because it's different. I like the song. I already
like the band I so maybe I'm biased. I don't know,
but like.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Hots Jared thoughts of thoughts of Sony Styles receiving the block.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Oh, we literally talked about it last week. Yeah, because
I asked you the question who gets the block over?
And you're not allowed to say Sunny Styles because we
all know it's going to be Sunny Styles. It's literally
what I asked you last week.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Yeah. And then the and the Captain's Sony Styles Caleb Downs,
Sarah Veled, Austin and Brandon Innis. Yeah, no issues, no
issues for me there, and I'm happy that it's like four,
not like seven or eight.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
Yeah. I always it always bothered me when Meyer watered
down the captain Ship.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
Yeah. And last thing, last thing here, Jared, your thoughts
real quick? Big ten exploring expanding to twenty four or
twenty eighteens.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
Were they exploring it or were they just throwing it
out there like floating it. I feel like sometimes they
throw something out there just so people can get pissed
off and they can go, oh, sorry, we were just talking.
It's yeah, No, it's dumb, obviously, it's dumb. It's very
clearly dumb. No one wants that go away, stop talking.

(57:12):
No one wants a playoff that big Yeah, right, Just
have an NIT of sixteen teams that would be rat
have a secondary bracket. Does the twenty eight team playoff
mean a twelve team playoff over here and an eighteen
team playoff over here? I don't know if eighteen makes

(57:33):
a good bracket or not, but sure, like make an NIT.
I'm all for that. And as both sun Card and
Spikes have twelve and sixteen, sure both Spikes and sun
Card if pointed out in the past. Take the bowl games.

(57:54):
If we really really love the bawl games. If that
is a thing people are married to. They love the
tradition of bowl games existing. Here's what you do. Move
them to last week of August. You are guaranteed to
have one or two weeks. Do week zero and week

(58:17):
one so we can spread it out a little bit.
You get Labor Day weekend. We're just moving it from
from New Year's Day to Labor Day. You're your New
Year's Day buls are now your Labor Day Bowls, and
you get the best two weeks of college because now
you get these amazing matchups. You now get these amazing matchups,

(58:39):
and they'll actually matter if you care about saving the
bowl games. I quite frankly leave them on the side
of the road. I don't give a shit, But if
you're married to it, move them to last week of August,
first week of September, make it week zero and week one.

(59:04):
Save the bowl games or don't. I don't care, but
let's stop pretending like they matter in their current form
except for the ones that got shoehorned into the playoffs.
And even then, do we even care about them as
bowl games or do? It was just like, oh, the
playoff game against Oregon? Which bowl game was it? Kyle,
do you remember, quick, which bowl game was that? The

(59:25):
playoff game against It.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Was the Cheetos Bowl, Cheatahs, the flame in Hot Cheetahs Bowl.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
You've proven my point no one gives a shit Takis
the Takis bull. You've you've ruined the ball games by
just making them playoff games because no one gives a
shit about them being bowls. They're just playoff games. At
that point. The playoff games have no meaning anymore because

(59:59):
of the playoffs, and they were always just everyone even
before the playoffs everyone hated the ball games because the
ball games were impeding our ability to get a playoffs.
If you care about saving the ball games, and I'm
not saying I do, but if you care about saving
the ball games, make them week zero and week one

(01:00:23):
now they matter. Now, Now the Rose Bowl against and
by the way, let's just change the Rose Bowl. We're
changing the Rose Bowl. It's now the best SEC team
and the best Big ten team. And now we're getting
that shit week one. Oh and we're already getting that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
All right, all right, let's go and wrap it up here. Oops.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
Oh all right, Umm, yeah, that's it. That's the end
of the show. Uh, Tonight's would it be at the
bull sides? Unfortunately? Yes, that that's kind of the You
can't have the Rose Bowl not at the Rose bull
except for of course when they they did that, but
we don't talk about twenty twenty. Yeah, all right, that's it.

(01:01:12):
That's the end of the show. You see. That's that
is the problem. Though on card You're you're moving those
games to neutral sites. And you know, I feel about
neutral site college football games. Not a fan, which is
why I say, let the bulls die. Just let them die.
But if you do care about saving them, but let
them die. All right, Tonight's ending music, Let's go with

(01:01:39):
Kyle is a good rant. You're not wrong, but it
was good podcasting. You aren't wrong, but it was good podcasting,
and you cannot say otherwise. All right, let's go with
second story anthem. Second story Anthem is the name of

(01:02:00):
Tonight's band. So if all about being setted like gregier
one to drink and look at her listening to look
at music, four sports podcasters, you need to get me
a second story.

Speaker 4 (01:02:19):
Go.

Speaker 6 (01:02:19):
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go get done.

Speaker 5 (01:02:28):
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Speaker 6 (01:02:29):
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good for me. I never thought you'd be like this,
but now I guess I see, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:02:48):
Yeah, you're getting taking getting stone, watching won lot Span
other primes. So I bring you with pat Ollo, ask
you to tell a phone it's not rolling about why
you're gonna try.

Speaker 6 (01:03:04):
I can't sing, You're just fine, good guy, ry try
a rabbit. So let's see now that that i've been
your rolling along, I wish that you would up with

(01:03:26):
your rise and say that this sporting just a song.
Don't like to like you, but I can't do this
to myself. I hope I take you understand that this
song for your run good and so get getting you,

(01:03:50):
just getting to take you getting stone.

Speaker 5 (01:03:53):
But you want another time say a song.

Speaker 6 (01:03:58):
I reu that's waiting at the telephone.

Speaker 5 (01:04:02):
It's not going about why it's why I can't see
if he's find a good guy by turn around my dear.

Speaker 6 (01:04:56):
Just to get again, and he was getting home and drinking.

Speaker 5 (01:04:59):
Again stones, but you wanted as advising a song, I
bring you better of watts telephone and stop going back?
Why ride?

Speaker 6 (01:05:12):
Why can't see the try a good guy?

Speaker 5 (01:05:16):
Not right?

Speaker 6 (01:05:18):
Trying around my tear