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Speaker 1 (00:37):
Anchors upsells it full welcome to the suitcast. I even saka,
all right, Jared, how are you doing today? Doing good?
Doing good, good, no traditions, adition, Okay, all right, Kyle,
how how'd you feel about the game? Just general general
thoughts before we get going Gonda for much of a
(01:00):
better game overall, offensively, defensively. I thought. I thought overall
the team did what they needed to do, and yeah,
I was very pleased as a whole. Yeah. I think
one of the things.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Perhaps Ohio State fans are gonna get gonna have to
get used to, is that Ohio State is.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Gonna like ease into the game.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I'm like, I almost feel like they're they're very willing
to see what the other team is going to do
in like the first drive, especially on the defense, because
we've seen we've seen it happen a few times now
where the other team will have a good first offensive drive,
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get down into the red zone. Ohio State then puts
the clamps on either forces a field goal or better
in some cases, and then the defense plays like out
after that, And you know, maybe it's maybe it's the scripting,
as Spike says, maybe maybe the other teams are just
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you know, getting through that playscript and then once you
get through that playscript that you know this first ten
plays or whatever. Maybe Ohio State is sort of taking
a passive approach to sort of just sort of read, react,
see what the other team's doing, and then adjust. I'm
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not a hunt, I'm not one hundred percent sure what
it is, but just it feels like it's part of
the plan and that that's okay, where the other team's
going to get some yards.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
On the first drive Minnesota, it's just thirteen.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Just seeing it repeated a few games.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Now, Yeah, thirteen play sixty six yards almost seven minutes
on that first drive for Minnesota. Problem with them, Jared
is that they got into the red zone. Yeah, yeah,
you can never should never, they should never have gotten
into the red zone. But yeah, other than that, they
only had one other, one other good drive and that
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was in the fourth quarter when they had that field
goal attempt. Yeah that did go wide, right, Yeah, but yeah, overall, yeah,
you just look at the just the defense just suffocating.
I think I agree, Jared, Like I wanted to see
what Minnesota, Minnesota does that first drive, or really any
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team and then really just adjusts there. It's it's it's
just amazing. How great this this is how a state
team is five straight games holding their opponents to single digits.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Spike said, it's amazing the number of red zone field
goal misses. Did they get into the red zone on
the second field goal track, Kyle? Or is that outside
the red zone?
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Well really available ended up at the Ohio State twenty
three yard line. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
So not not tachnically, not technically, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Because if you look at the final statuea Minnesota was
one for one in the red zone. So yes, there
you go in Ohio State perfect five for five with
five touchdowns in the red zone. Much much better than
we've seen a couple of games already where it was
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the Washington gameifically, the Ohio games and in the Ohio
game as well too, capitalizing all that. So that was
that was something that we emphasized and a week ago
being able to punch it in when it counts in
they and they did this time. So hats off. Yep,
you were ready to get through the report card. H yes,
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let's let's go ahead and do that all right. Offense, here,
we just popped the numbers real quick. Four hundred and
seventy four yards, three forty one in the air, one
hundred and thirty three on the ground, and Julian's saying,
just being lights out. I know we'll get to the
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quarterbacks here, but overall, really please what I've seen from
the team here, game plan here, spread the ball out,
get the get your running back, some touches here. Yeah,
I what's more to say? They executed offensively other than
the missed field goal there, So yeah, a A for
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the game plan?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
What was the drive summary? Was it first time? I mean,
because I know a number of drives is a thing
we've talked about so far, and yeah, I'm comfortable with
an A on the game plan offensively.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
But what were the drives? How many drives were there?
And what were the results? Okay, not counting the last one, yeah,
even though even though statistically they do count the last
one as ten, it literally counted for zero seconds on
the clock. Let's just not count it. Let's say nine
nine drives, five touchdowns, one field goal attempt that drive, yeah,
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and two punts right in the middle of the game.
They're literally rate in the middle. They punted their last
drive of the first half and putted on their first
drive of the second.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Half, Spike says, I like to the one play forty
four yard touchdown drive. Yeah, I mean those plays are
how you get more than.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Seven drives at the end of I mean, you know
that's Ohio State didn't feel like they were going to
It felt like even offensively, Ohio State was like clock
killing the entire game in the past, really but not
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not not this game though, in yes, through through much
of the season, I don't know, definitely felt that. Yeah,
And and I don't know if it's just a matter
of like what the defense was willing to give you,
because you know, they it does seem that they were
allowing and I guess we can well let's let's let's
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let's get into that conversation, we get the quarterbacks, let's
let's go to in game coaching. I mean, but what
more can I say? I mean, A, they did everything
that they wanted to that really didn't need to be
any kind of adjustment because the team was executing well.
So A I think there was kind of an adjustment.
At least.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
The game started like it was gonna look like the
Washington game. Lots of runs, lots of short passes and
then they started airing out more, and so it did.
It did feel like a little bit maybe of an
adjustment or maybe it wasn't. And that's sort of what
I was getting to before, and we can continue this
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conversation into quarterbacks. I'm comfortable with an a on in game,
so is chat.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
It looks like.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
As we get to the quarterbacks, Ohio State did look
like it was gonna start airing the ball out a
little bit more as the game went on, especially like
in the famed quote unquote middle eight. Even if it
wasn't technically the middle eight, it kind of felt like
it was just happening in the middle of the game
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where there Ohio State was getting chunk yards through the air. Now,
was this an adjustment or was Minnesota just leaving those
plays available where say Washington and Ohio weren't and and
Texas wasn't. I think that's that's the question, Like, because
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there were plays during the Washington game where Saying looked
deep like there were there were opportunities from a play
calling standpoint for Saying to throw deep and he he
passed on them. But there were definitely those opportunities. So
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you know, either Sayan wasn't feeling it, or the wide
receivers weren't getting open, or Washington was just playing such
a shell defense that it wasn't really even possible. But
that wasn't the case with Washington, or excuse me, with Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
It did get to a.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Point in the game in which Sayan said, yeah, I'm
gonna start throwing the ball deep.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Now, now was it saying was it day?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Was it Minnesota? You know through the television angles, it's
not really possible to say.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
But they tried early on. They they tried it early
on at the first drive that ended up being the
missed field goal would by the way, it was barely
a miss. So that was that was a really nice
from fifty from fielding.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
I think it was it fifty three out. It was
a good kid fifty. They just missed it. It's just
that's an and that is a big boy NFL kick.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
So that's a right before just not going to make
all this right before that two plays before that second
and nine and Julian saying took a shot, uh, a
little a little behind, and credit to the Minnesota defender
h john Nester who ended up breaking that pass, just
got the got his arm right right in the cradle
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of Jeremiah Smith's hands there broke that ball up. It
was a it was a great throw by Jeremiah or
great throw by Julian saying just a it was just
an excellent defense by uh By Minnesota's defender there. So
they tried throwing it deep early on, and then they
and he ended up getting redemption on the next long
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pass on how State's next drive went to uh Carnel
Tate for forty eight yards and then a couple of
plays later a State end up getting.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
A touchdown there against So they against a pretty respectable defense.
You know, we're talking respect Julian saying, yeah, I mean
this it's not Ohio, you know it's it's not it's
not Grambling. This is a Big ten defense. It's like
a middle Big ten defense, but it's still a Big
ten defense. Julian saying twenty three for twenty seven, twenty
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three of twenty seven, three hundred and twenty six yards,
three touchdowns, zero interceptions, a completion percentage of eighty five percent.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Crazy, absolutely crazy here. I'm going to give him an
A plus. Yeah, a plus, I'd say, yeah, I'd say
in a plus as well. I think he had one
bad pass. He didn't have through it when he threw
it into the endzine. It could have been should have
been intercepted. Yeah. But but other than that, yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
It was.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
That was I can't really say anything else negative about
Julian Sam That was truly a red shirt freshman pass.
But yeah, but he hasn't had many of those.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
He's had some, he is a redshirt freshman after all,
but he hasn't had many of those.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
So good on correct, yep. Alright, before we get to
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break in finish up with our offense. All right, run blocking,
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run blocking. I thought it was fine. I thought it
was fine. There was there were some times that they
could have looked better, but I think overall they were fine. Overall,
the state rushed for four point four yards per carry,
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which is which is decent for this kind of defense
that they went up against here. I think they were
lighting up. I don't have the stat it was low.
I don't think they were letting up that many yards
per carry. From what I.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
It was pretty good against not great competition, but it
was a pretty good number. Oh I want to say,
Ohio State like doubled the typical rush per average that
Minnesota gives up. Or maybe it was total rushing yards.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I forget they were. They were letting up two point
eight yards per carrie, which was thirteenth best in the
country at the time, and granted who they played, but
still fair dimmed the numbers. So how do you feel
about the grid? I say, I'm kind of B B plus.
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I would say B plus. I think that's fair. You know,
composition some great. We're starting to getting out of myself
a little bit, but we're starting to see bo Jackson
starting to have some a little bit better vision now
we saw some of the some of the play developments
when he was handled the ball. Starting to see both
starting to really see the vision now.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah, and I will say on the few as Spikes
points out down in the chat on a couple of
the quarterback sneaks they ran, they got incredible push. I
will say those were later in the game when Minnesota was,
you know, gassed, It's a little bit easier to get
that push.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
At that point. But and by the way run block,
you know, I know, it was only like was it
just one drive where they had the backups and I
and I would say it was backups on backups. For
the most part, the backup offensive line crushed Minnesota's defense,
I mean as a result mostly of that last drive.
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James Peoples finishes with an average of eight point four
yards of carry, So big props to the second string
offensive line. Yeah, pass block, zero sacks let up again.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
And I don't remember a ton of instances of Julian
saying having to rush passes. He took some hits that
you know, it's big boy college football. He's not gonna
stay clean.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
The entire time.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
But I don't remember a lot of passes getting a
lot of pass players getting like ruined, or a lot
of you know, I would say for the most part
he stayed pretty clean.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
That Ohio State now is number seven in the country
in terms of percentage of quarterback sacks on throat on
passing attempts only at one point eight percent of the time. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Spike says he got crushed once though in the game.
He was out of the pocket on that one. For
whatever that's worth, I'm good with a I'm good with an.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
A all right, all right running. As I mentioned before,
Bo Jackson's really starting to come up with a vision, uh,
starting to really see it.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
C J.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Donaldson only had three rushing attempts in this game. Great,
he did get the one touchdown. Yeah, one of those
he did to get a touchdown there. Bo Jackson's thirteen attempts,
James People's seven attempts. CJ. Donaldson three attempts. Yeah, for that, I.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Mean Donaldson was put in in very specific short yardage
situations in his defense Keen Hols, who was running on
the well, the one competitive play he was in and
that was that he missed his whole like just I
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don't know how else to say it, like he tried
to bounce that outside when he really didn't need to
and really shouldn't have. I didn't like the play call either,
for what it's worth, but it was I didn't like
to play call, but the execution was also bad.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Sure so, but I thought Jackson looked good.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
People's looked good at the end of the game. Not
the running back's best performance, especially with all the other
things considered, keen holes missing and Donaldson not always getting
the conversions that he was supposed to be getting. I'm
a I would say B minus.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I was gonna say a bee for me. B is
the first thing that came to my head. So I
stick with the bee, all right? Be as well for
Chat receiving, Tate had himself.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
What needs to be a career game, what even needs
to be said about the receivers, Like, we have high
expectations for them, but you know displus yeah, And again
this is not the wide receivers. This is receiving, so
you also have to talk about the performance. Max Claire had.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Five catches for sixty three yards for that for the
tight end. Yeah, and Quincy Porter with his first catch
as a Buckeye. Absolutely, I said a plus. Chat said
A plus, Kyle? What do you say A plus? Aye?
Kyle says A plus? All right, drives and conversions. Six
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of their nine drives ended up being four touchdowns. They
were seven for ten on third downs, crazy crazy good?
Right now, where does that put them? That puts him
for the year fifty to one point two percent of
third down conversions for the year, putting them thirteenth best
in the country.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yeah, it weirdly, I think that this could have been
like an A plus game. Again, you're playing like a
decent Big ten defense. I don't think the expectation should
be that you score on every single drive, but this
really should have been. This really could have been just
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like an A plus game had Carnel Tape not slipped
on the first drive. Yeah, Like, if he doesn't slip,
they get that first down. Maybe they don't get the
touch down, but they're at least a lot closer for
maybe an easier field goal, even if they don't get
the touchdown. But like, the play call was good. It's
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just you know, you slip sometimes it's it's it's football. Hey,
I'm happy with an A personally, chat says all right.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
And explosiveness. I put it in the chat or not
chatt in our notes here, Jared. According to stats here,
aus State had seven passing passing plays of fifteen or
more yards and had four of ten or more yards
on the rushing side, so a lot better than against Washington. Granted,
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Washington's defense was better than Minnesota's, but it's it's what
we want. We wanted to see how State being able
to to run the ball effectively, being able to pass
it and take their shots. And yeah, three of those
long shots ended up going for more than forty yards
in the year. Yeah, so yeah, eight plus. I was
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really happy seeing yeah, and seeing how this offense really
being able to be explosive.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
And as you said, this is you know, this is
not a bad defense by any names. Obviously not on
the same It's like not you know, all Big ten defense.
There are better defenses in the Big ten, but it's
still top third defenses in the country. I would say
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it's not a bad defense at all by any means.
Koy Parrish is a tremendous football player. They have really
good football players on the defense. Are there holes in
their defense, Yes, that's what stops them from being like
all Big ten good. But they have a lot of
excellent pieces on that defense.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Yep. Speaking of defenses, let's get right into the defense here.
Defense game plan, I mean it was to it was
just stop their their rushing attack, which they did that
because offensively, I wasn't really worried about them, because we
talked about in the know your enemy, they weren't. They
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weren't really scaring us on the on the offensive side here,
they were kind of just middle of the road and
most of the most of the stats we cared cared
about talking about. But yeah, game plan it was just
contain and stop them on third downs, which they did
one for eleven there, So game plan A yes.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, I mean, especially like outside of that first drive. Yeah,
I'm good with an.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
A in game coaching, I'll go plus more. What more
needs to be said, Yeah, A plus A plus on
end game coaching, just mixing it up, make this confusing Minnesota, yeah,
al us. Yeah, and you know we talked about that
at the top of the show. It does. I again,
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I I don't know how true this is.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
It's just the feeling I have where it does kind
of feel like they're just doing a read and react
on the first drive and then making adjustments as needed
for the rest of the game. I don't know how
Like I said, I don't really necessarily know how how
true that is.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
But we've seen it a few times.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Where they like the in game adjustment is part of
the game plan, all.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Right, tackling? Do you remember miss any mistackling? Because I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Do I remember a missed tackle? I don't not, I
mean not off the top of my head.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
No.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
If I can't remember it, then a that's an A plus.
Then you know that's a valid point.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
I mean, I'm I'm not gonna say that there wasn't one,
but I I don't remember one, and that that that
probably says something.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I mean, I go that goes into like into their
I think it's our last grading here too, like they
only they only let it for a big plays and
we'll get we get to that too. Run stop. There
was at one point before Minnesota's last drive, they had
Minnesota at one point seven yards per per rush.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
And considering this wasn't a like a heavy sack game
for Ohio State one. A lot of times when you
see crazy rushing numbers, it's like, oh, I say, had
against Washington last week where there were a bunch of
sacks that really drives one number down. But yeah, it
was only one for minus six.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yep, exactly, So run stop, yeah, April Us, I mean
they didn't on up one good run all game and
that was on Minnesota's last drive. Yeah, against the backups. Yeah,
and pass rush.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Not again, we mentioned there's not a lot of sacks,
but I do feel like they had they had Lindsay
under pressure most of the game. Like, I don't feel
like he was outside of the first drive. I don't
remember him being comfortable. He had some comfortable pockets in
the first drive. Outside of that, and I feel like
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he was getting rushed most plays.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
And this goes kind of hand in hand with the
pass coverage and our next grading here. Minnesota only had
one reception that went more than ten yards. Yeah, and
that's you have to give the pass rush credit for that,
because that just me that even if they aren't getting home,
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their presence isn't allowing stuff to develop deep correct. So
kind of between a AA minus. So I'll I'll say, nay, okay,
you're still you still you still kind of got to
get home. Yeah, they plus the sure all right and
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past coverage. I think you are. I guess that's only one,
only one that went over ten yards. They had two
that went for ten yards, but only one over ten
yards and that was to their tight end.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, how many receptions because uh, they're starting wide receivers.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Is that seven?
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Let's look here to their two primary wide receivers Brockington.
Brockington had four, Smith had three, and uh Tracy had none. Okay,
so they're three main starters. That's yes, seven, yeah, I
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mean plus yeah, starting quarterback under one hundred yards. I
mean what else?
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Especially, I mean, Kyle, if you don't have this number quick,
you just feel free to say no. But Drake Lindsay
had ninety four total passing yards. How many of those
were on the first drive?
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Oh? I could probably find that real quick. Here.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Matthews would have had a pick six, but he jammed
the route so goddamn hard. It was like three stooges
acted him trying to slow his body down in mid
air to defend the pass.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
All right, so we got five, ten, seventeen, No, no, no,
I'm sorry, I'm adding them up. So five oh, ten,
fourteen twenty. There's the long one forty five, forty five,
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fifty four and fifty four sixty four sixty five sixty
five yards on that first.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Drive, as far as said, seventy something impressive. That's why
it was pretty close.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
So yeah, he had ninety four, had one they had
one rushing yard on that on that first drive they
rushed it. They rushed it two times, one for one
yard and one for zero yards.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yeah, so Lindsay had approximately two thirds of his yards
in the first drive and had approximately thirty for the
rest of the game thereafter.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Yeah, all right, impact plays.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
I wouldn't say there were a ton of impact plays.
A lot of secks, no turnovers.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Did they get the stop on fourth down? But that
kind of goes into the stops.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yeah, I wouldn't count that here. Yeah, not necessarily a
lot of How many TFLs do you have that number offhand?
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Uh, seven with one of them being a sack, So
six rushing, six rushes, so that'd be six rushes for
minus nine yards. I don't remember any.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
What I would call like any like super bone crushing
sort of hits.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
We didn't let them, we didn't let them get moving
enough to have quote unquote an impact. Yeah, I mean,
I mean we've said that a few times during like
Austin's over unders where we've been kind of hitting the
under on a lot of defensive stats just because the
defense hasn't been on the field a lot to make stats.
So I mean impact we're gonna have to kind of
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grade it low even if it's unfair. So i'd say
I would I would say, I would say a B.
I'll say a B. I'll say a minus.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
That's that's a lot of TFLs for not a lot
of opportunity at TFLs.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Sure, all right, And UH stops one for eleven on
third downs, over one on fourth downs. Yet another red zone,
Yet another red zone stop. UH first and goal even
stop to force them into a field goal. Yeah, he
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plus this team.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
I've never seen a team ever.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
I hate to say ever. I hate to just hate
to throw.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
I hate to be the guy that like everything's the greatest, ever,
the best he's ever seen.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
I hate being I hate talking like that.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I think it's like cheap to always say everything's the
greatest thing you've ever seen. I've never seen a red
zone defense like this. This is the best red zone
defense I have ever seen.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Absolutely nuts here because it's it's just it was funny.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
We watched them go the entire on the first drive,
we watched Minnesota go down the entire length of the field.
I would dare say easily. I would dare say easily,
and then nigg went first and goal, and then I
just sort of sat back and relaxed. I'm like, well,
the're fuck now, if you want to score on this defense,
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you have to do it from twenty yards out.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
They are number one in opponent red zone scoring at
forty two percent. Number three and third down conversions only,
letting up nineteen point six percent of third downs in
their fifteenth and fourth down conversions at thirty three percent.
Elite numbers, Elite numbers. I'm just I'm just gonna put
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this and just look at just admire, just admire the
stats here. Just just amazing. Number one in opponents points
per game, number three in opponents yards per game, number
one in opponents points per play, number two in opponent
yards per play. Absolute nuts. All right, let's get to
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the last one. Don't break. Yes, this is explosive plays.
But on the other side, so they led up four
according to the final stats here, One was a twenty
five yard that was during the first drive, on the
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first drive. It was on that first drive, and it
was they had three on the rushing One was towards
the end of the second quarter, and the other two
were in the fourth quarter. So yeah, a plus this
was this was this was a really really good preventive
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part of any any kind of big plays.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
There was the was the rush in the second quarter?
Was that the one on like a third and long
where the ended up That was a.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Third and third and seventeen yep, and uh, Fame rushed
it in the middle for thirteen yards. Yeah, I'm not
going to count that one. We're the where the two
in the fourth quarter against the backups. The first one
was it was the second play in the fourth quarter
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that would not have been That was first and ten
at Minnesota's thirty nine for twelve yards. And the last
one was Fame again. Yeah, that was on that last
drive there on second and eleven and got eleven yards.
So that was that driver was like they they let up,
they let up a chunk yards and then they stopped
them for zero one yards and then it was more
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yards and then back to zero to one.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah, I'll give them. I'll give them the A plus
on that. I didn't want to hand out the game
plus easily. Did you say plus as well?
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Yes? I did? Okay, Chat says say yes, Buckeye esquire
those do exclude grambling, and well it.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Is those those the stats exclude grambling. But it's also
important to remember when we're talking about number one in
the country, number three in the country, number one in
the country, all FCS games are excluded from those stats.
So if someone put up stupid numbers against you know,
all right, let's let's.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Take our second a break real quick here, and then
we're going on a lightning fast the overall uh thesloopcasts
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Uh Jared has on there a Ohio music playlist. I
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don't think I've ever mentioned that, uh to Jared. Jared
puts that together?
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (35:13):
If so, if you're interested in any kind of playlist
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by the way, to a to a YouTube playlist. Every
time I add a song to the show, I add
it to that playlist, and that's there are four and
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ten songs on here. Yeah, that music dot the sloopcast
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gotta look? Yeah, you are correct, Yes, music dot the
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and be right back. All right, Lightning round, Jared, Lightning round,
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as we do the overall here, so chet, get ready
to put your gratings in quickly. Overall end game coaching
A for me, Jared, Yeah, that's a. I mean I'll
thor the plus on it. Actually, all right, and chat
got a as well, okay, Uh. Motivation effort, I mean
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a plus. I mean you hold held them the three
points one for eleven on third downs, Yeah, you got them.
Motivator you got that, you got them clicking Yeah, A
plus yeah, I mean it's I mean just look, no
for look, no further de pend state. What can happen
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if you don't respect an opponent and show up yep, yep,
A plus across the board? Execution I'll say A. I
mean yeah, I'll say a yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
A lot of great executions, some kind of goofy stuff
as far as executions concerned. The missed handoff James, people's
going the wrong way, keen holes, missing the obvious hole
and trying to bounce it outside on on the conversion play.
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There was some little goofy things that they could clean up.
I'm not going to give them the plus here.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Right discipline here. I actually haven't looked at what they had.
Four penalties, four penalties for thirty five yards uneven look
at what they were so downs had downs, got caught down,
hitting back Yep, never retaliate, that's what happens. The other
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guy should have got a penalty too, Yes, he did,
got he got choke slam, he got he got an
elbow forcing his head into the turf. It was bullshit.
The other guys should have got a flag too. But
the second player always gets caught. The retaliatory party is
the one that gets called most of the time. Three
on offense, two false starts and one holding on offense,
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and then two on the defense. Jared mentioned the unsports
unsportsmanlike conduct for Caleb Down. The other was the roughing
the kicker that was then declined.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
If you're gonna, if you're gonna rough the kick, But
if you're gonna, it was running into, not roughing.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
It was a running. Guess if you're gonna, if you go,
that's weird, they said, roughing, But yes it is running
into the kicker. You're right, yes, if you're gonna do it?
Do it?
Speaker 2 (38:42):
The listen, what's what? What are what are the two
things that can happen there? What are the two things
that can happen there? Either you hit them and who cares?
Because what's Minnesota gonna do? Run one more play just
to kneel it. No, there's gonna decline it.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
The the rewards side of taking that hit is that
you block the punt and maybe get a touchdown. It
would be twenty eight to three at halftime. Hit the punter?
Who cares? Yeah? All right? Special teams?
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (39:14):
What was what was the discipline call? I'm gonna say,
I'm just I'll just say a yeah, an I'll do
it A minus because of that, because of the unsports
mall conduct, So a minus. Yeah, the punter's mom would care.
That's not what she told me. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Joe Maguire averaged forty four yards per punt. That's that's
the kind of notere we want to see. We want
to see it right around that forty five yards and average.
So that's good fielding. Did miss the one field goal attempt,
but it was fifty three yards and it was close.
It was really close. It had it looked like I
could have been good for sixty it was it was.
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It was a hell of a kick by him, So
they only sent ten out on the field goal kick
and cost the team a timeout. They did have the
trick punt return, which was cool. Yeah, that was cool.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Yeah, I'll go A minus here. It was just nice
to see the special teams try something on A from
a return perspective.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Yeah, let's say B plus. Let's say B plus. Uh.
Chad says B minus mm hmm. All right. And turnovers,
I don't know, how do you want to grade the
no turnovers in this game? I mean, how are you
going to grade turnovers when there was none in the game. Well,
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you didn't commit any, so that's you didn't cause any.
But but you didn't commit any y B. I was
thinking B as well. Fine, Squire's fine, all right, Offense
offense as a whole. Ay, I'm just going down the
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list and it looks like A for me at offense
and yeah, that's defense A plus for me, all right,
So I'll just go A on offense as well as well.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Spikes, Well, Spike said B, but Squire said, ah, so
we'll go B plus.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
I think he said B for the turnovers. Hey, yeah,
and the defense A plus A plus for defense. I
will second A plus for defense and so overall yep,
and Chat says a plus plus plus plus. Nope, Uh,
you don't get the overall. Sorry, so the overall forty
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two to three win. No injuries? Hey, what what we'll
take a we'll take a nice salad. A I'm a,
I'm a for me? What was the what was the uh?
What was Vegas on? This? Was it twenty four points,
twenty twenty four and a half, twenty three and a
half somewhere around there. All right, I'm trying to pull
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it up real quick. Here it is twenty three and
a half, twenty three and a half. All right, I
guess the right n beats points for the game? You
beat Vegas by eighteen points. Yeah, I'll give him the
plus on that.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
All right?
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Oh, spikes is correct? Can YadA?
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Jackson did get hurt. It was a stinger, which are
painful and suck but shouldn't be long term. I have
a feeling that if that game had sayed competitive, he
might have come back, But I don't know that. That's
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that's just me guessing, unless you're Maurice Clark.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
Right.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Well, that's that's valid. Yeah, all right, just a couple
of questions and then we will go and wrap it
up real quick. Jared, but at squire, which team I
got to pull up the this schedule here? Which team
will score more than nine points on this defense here?
So just going to go down the list real quick. Illinois,
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do you think next week Illinois will score ten points? No?
Or more?
Speaker 2 (43:33):
No?
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Okay, I agree, Wisconsin No, Penn State sure, I'll say
Penn State. Well, no, okay, Purdue no, u c L A.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Weirdly, after last week, I almost want to say yes,
but I'm going to say no.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Rutgers No, and the cheaters up the team No, How
crazy would that be? Someone will? I mean, it's just
it's just someone will. There'll be a defensive something that happens,
or a special team something that happens, and it will
happen big.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Then Championship against Oregon probably, Yeah, they'll they'll score ten.
They will for sure. I would have said the same
thing about Washington. I mean, if Kyle, if Kyle had
asked me this question before Washington, or if Washington, you know,
you flip Washington with another team, like, oh yeah, Washington
will score ten hon Us and Penn State honestly might,
(44:40):
but I don't think that.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
I mean, their running.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
Backs are so good. We'll we'll see what happens there. Honestly,
Spike says, watch it be Perdue. It'll probably be a
team that you aren't expecting it to be because they
either because they call off the dogs early and the
backups get in early, or you know, you could have
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there very easily could have been a scenario in which
Minnesota's defense or excuse me, Minnesota against Ohio States backup
defense gets a touchdown, kicks the extra point, boom, there's
ten points. So I mean, you're not It's very easy
to look down in the line of games and say.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
No, no, no, no, no, no no, but someone will.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
The Greek rifle is putting up yards this year for them.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Okay, since nineteen ninety nine. I had to look this
up real quick, so I'll put this in Kyle scorn
here Oa since nineteen nine, Kyle, that's the end of
the show. Do you have anything in Kyle's corner?
Speaker 2 (45:51):
There?
Speaker 1 (45:51):
You go? Sure, since nineteen ninety nine, Just because like
before night teen fifty football games are weird and all that,
So I said, I said in the modern era, let's
do Let's do nineteen ninety nine. The fewest points allowed
in a college football season since nineteen ninety nine was
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Alabama in twenty and eleven, where they led up one
hundred and thirteen points, which averaged them to eight point
seven points per game. Okay, so is that the is that?
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Is that what a house States should be shooting for?
Speaker 2 (46:41):
I mean, they should be shooting for zero every game?
Is the is the answer to that question?
Speaker 1 (46:46):
If we're being real, see one, two, three, four, five,
five of their thirteen games that they led up more
than more ten or more points.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Yeah, listen, I love the idea that Ohio State doesn't
give up ten points at any more than ten points
all year. And again, if you look at it on
a game by game basis, it feels very possible. If
you look at it from a season long basis, it
becomes almost impossible because just there's too much opportunity for
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something to happen, just a punt return, an interception return,
a fumble return, just one busted coverage on a passing play,
and then all of a sudden, the other team has
seven points and then you have to stop them from
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hopefully they haven't got a field goal to that point,
Like it's just a touchdown and a field goal. Yeah,
it just doesn't feel it does not feel super likely
to me.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
All right, fair enough, And I really don't.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Even know how to Penn State's offense is so weird
because like, if you watch that UCLA game, they looked
totally anemic for a long time. Then it was like
they actually decided to let Aler throw the ball down
the field. He connected on a couple, you know, all
then they're kind of back in business in that game.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Yeah, I don't know, it's just yep, yeah right, that's it.
That's all I got.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
Averaging sub nine points per game does feel doable. I agree,
we're at five per game now if you include grambling. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
I mean it does feel doable, especially if we're talking
about the regular season.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
Yes, all right, that's it.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
That's that's the end of today's show. I already we
already did Kyle's corner, so I guess I guess we're
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