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September 29, 2025 54 mins
Ohio State ends Washington’s home game win streak. The Buckeyes defense stood up to the challenge against the Huskies. What is the takeaway from OSU’s first road game of the season?

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Speaker 1 (00:37):
Anchor's up sells it for welcome to sleep. Guessing didn't taka.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Good, dared doing what you doing?

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Doing good? Doing good, made a false start, so the
beers already crack. So uh kut ching, that's the Ching's
the wrong.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
It's more of a.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Hey, yeah, I really fumbled. I have an opportunity there,
did not rise to the occasion. But that's okay. We
move forward, we try better. We'd do better next time, sir,
all right, O High State Washington. The High State breaks

(01:17):
two big streaks against Washington. This Saturday or last Saturday.
Washington had a twenty two game win streak at home,
which was broken. And Washington had scored on twenty consecutive
quarters or excuse me, turny consecutive drives, way more impressive,

(01:38):
twenty consecutive drives coming into this game. And I know
because I saw it. I know some people were getting
a little antsy because Washington was getting some good drives,
completing some good passes, working the middle of the field.
But this is a really, really good Washington offense. If

(02:01):
you listen to the Know Your Enemy episode that we
did last Thursday, we told you it was a really
good quarterback. This is a really good group of wide receivers,
is a really good running back. We were never going
to shut out Washington, and for what it's worth, I

(02:22):
believe I even said that, you know, our streak of
holding teams to under ten points was going to end.
I was wrong about that, thankfully. I'm surprised it held
Washington the six points. The defense played outstanding.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah, defense played outstanding. Twenty twenty two game win streak.
It was a weekend of streaks. Jared Ending, I think
that was kind of the thing for Week five of
college football.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Georgia had a third. Yeah, three game win streak at
home come down and we'll talk about that more on Wednesday.
Uh but.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yeah, yeah, let's let's let's go ahead and get let's
get brit into it here. Yeah, twenty forty six the
final score here and House State like you look offensively? Yeah,
the team struggled early on. I mean the first drive
they went nine plays, forty five yards four and a
half minutes. Should should have capitalized, it should have should

(03:26):
have gotten the one yit yard. I know it's Washington,
but it is Washington. You needed to get that yard
to to get it into the end zone there. But
they did it.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
They did it, and turn their turnover throw link in.
Who cares like, oh here comes keen holes. We know
this is going to be a quarterback sneak. Cool like
if if that if saying isn't going you know, he's
saying is not a big guy. Maybe maybe Day doesn't

(04:02):
want to risk getting saying hurt. Maybe saying it's not
good at running a quarterback sneak because again he's not
very big. Maybe you know there's some hesitation there for
one or some combination of those reasons. You know, throw Lincoln,

(04:24):
throw link in, Throw Lincoln, throw link in. Let him
run the snake if if if you know, the tush push,
the brotherly shove, when done correctly, is unstoppable. Go for it.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
M yeah. Other other than they he.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Looks good on his frackake. Well, there seems to be
hesitation in doing it, I think, is yea when whatever
that hesitation.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Is slow, slow start about ahouse State picked it up
quickly then and scored on four consecutive drives on the
limited seven drives that they had that they have this year,
which is actually Jared I looked it up. It's the
same same number of drives that they had against Texas seven.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah, I hate the new clock rules, and and I
have to look into this further because this was a
thought I had right before we started recording. I wonder
if drive counts are down across the country. Is this
a is this a reflection of the new clock rules?
Is this something that some people are doing to Ohio State,

(05:39):
that Ohio State's doing? But yeah, the drives for Ohio
states seem really down also last year, but also this year.
And I'm wondering because you know, we had a this
has been a chaos rich year already, and in no
short part thanks to this last week where you know,

(06:01):
forty percent of the top ten lost. I granted, you
know one of those was a top ten playing against
another top ten, but you get my point, Like, if
you're reducing the number of drives, I think that gives
the lesser talented teams an advantage. But that's a that's

(06:23):
a that's a bigger conversation than we're handling right here
right now. So game plan, Kyle, what do you give
the offensive game plan?

Speaker 2 (06:33):
I think the game plan was It's fine. I didn't
really have any issues. They ran the ball well, they
they passed the ball well. I mean they saw Washington
was they weren't allowing anything deep. So a house state
did what they were given, and I thought they did,
thought they did pretty well. They had some really long

(06:54):
drives they had. I can't really complain, i'd say, I
would say I probably saying A. I can't really think
too much negative about it. I mean there was some
execution from the team that need that needs to be
cleaned up, dumb penalties, but yeah, i'd say an A.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yeah, they only had one bad drive if you don't
know them, if you don't count.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
The Fox Place fifteen Yeah, the sixth place fifteen yards,
they didn't. They did not have any three and outs
in this game.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah, they score, so you lose the first drive on downs.
It's a really good drive, but just don't capitalize on
fourth and short near the goal line. Then they have
a bad drive to start the second quarter. Then touchdown, touchdown,
field goal, touchdown, clock kill to end the game. I

(07:53):
don't think there's anything wrong with the game plan personally,
So yeah, I'm gonna'm gonna go with an A.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Okay, Yeah, definitely it was definitely slow pace, fear possessioned. Yeah,
it's it was definitely weird to seeing State just pretty
much be like a clock killer in this game. It
was like very unlike Ohio State.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
They've been doing it right. Ryan Day is looking long term.
I think he is trying to shorten games, sure.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
And I'm I'm finding it long with as long as
they're as long as they're executing, that's that's that's the
big thing.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
That is, in fact the big thing in game coaching. Yeah,
for the offense. For the offense, health and safety is
the biggest part of it, especially like long term. He's
he's playing, he's playing for the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Mm hmm. I can't think of anything negative for in
game coaching. For for the offense, I agree. I got
to give An a as well.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yeah, I think that they they start, they went away
from you know, there were several occasions in which Sayan
was looking deep on drives and it's in you know,
Nessler or whoever. The the people in the in the
in the booth were We're like, oh, well, you know,
they need to let's say and throw it. They need

(09:19):
to let they were. There were several instances in which
Saying was looking deep, but it wasn't there. Washington was
given them the soft Shell all game and eventually they
you know, they did change up the offense a little
bit to make sure that you were getting Jeremiah Smith
the ball short, because Washington wasn't gonna let it happen long.
You made some adjustments. You made sure Jeremiah Smith and

(09:40):
your other playmakers got you know, it's a pretty minor adjustment,
but yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
That's what happened on that first touchdown there, and you
for for some dumb reason, they're playing still playing Shell
inside the red zone. Yeah, and gave Jeremiah Smith all
that room. I just it's I watched that a number
of times that play it. I'm just like, really really,

(10:07):
but I digress. Quarterback Julian Savean just he's playing just
lights out twenty two for twenty eight, but taking out
the throwaways, which he had three, he was twenty two
for twenty five. Excellent. He was excellent. He I know
he had the pass that end up for ohouse, it's

(10:31):
only punt for the game, which he had that one back.
But other than that, I can't really think of really
really any other bad throws. I'd say, hey, he did it,
turn the ball over, had a pair of touchdowns seventy
nine percentage completion.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah, hey, red shirt quarterback, his first road game in
a very loud environment. You know, he is still a
young player. Make no mistake, this is still a very
young quarterback. Maybe dealing, I mean it was. It was
basically a noon kickoff for Ohio States body clock, so,

(11:12):
and I don't know how much of it, you know,
And they aren't flying commercial. I'm not sure how much
of a jet lag is still travel wipes you out.
They don't travel like wheat travel. Yeah, but yeah, and
and and he started a little rattled at the beginning.

(11:34):
And that's fair to be expected for his agent experience level.
I give him an ah.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
He only had two passing attempts that first quarter. Again,
are they hardly You only had one drive in the
first quarter too.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Right, They only had one drive in the first quarter
thanks to a special teams fumble.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yep, we'll get to that later. Running back running backs,
the running back crew four point four against against this
Washington defense. And I was trying to trying to find
it real quick, and I could not find it real quick.
But I remember they had here it is They were

(12:14):
third in the country. Granted who they played, understand, but
statistically they were the number three team in rush's per
rushing yards per rush at two point one in Ohio State,
more than double that. Yeah, at four point four.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Bo Jackson individually at four point seven, Donaldson, who I
thought had a really good game at four point three.
Donaldson doesn't have Jackson's explosiveness, but I think he's a
really good second running back. And I think this is
Bo Jackson's team.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yep, this this game kind of proved it. There seventeen carries.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, Donaldson technically with the start, but yeah, Bo had
the most carries by fine. I mean what yeah, I
mean of the running backs specifically, he had over half
of the carries, like much of like well over half.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah, hundred and forty nine yards, so pretty much almost
tripled the number of yards that Washington has let up
per game so far this year. I'm gonna say B plus.
I say B plus for the for the running backs. Here, Oh,
I think I went out of order. That's run block. Yeah,

(13:35):
he went way out of order.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
You know, it's fine, hold on, hold on, see you
look now we're back in order.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
I would say B plus.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
There.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
There was a number of times I think, I think
all of the running backs but I'm going to mainly
focus on on bo Jackson. There was there was a
couple of plays. I think you'll look at the tape
and realize, Man if I cut it back, if I
cut that run back, how much more yarnage he could

(14:05):
have had come? Time'll come with time. But he's he's
shown that he's had his his future. I don't how
state's going to be really bright, absolutely if he keeps it,
keeps working on it, if he's looking this great early
on already, just just fix those things, just keeping his

(14:25):
eyes open more. See those cutback lanes. He's Yeah, it's
I'm excited.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
I like Esquire's comment here. He's at least decisive and
his first decision is usually right.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yeah, I'll second that observation. Yeah, be plus for me?

Speaker 1 (14:45):
All right, God, now let's do run blocking.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
I'm sorry, what would your green?

Speaker 1 (14:52):
I also did be plus?

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Okay, got fair?

Speaker 4 (14:56):
All right?

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Run block.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
Not great to the interior? Ye for a law for
a large part of the game.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yeah, I'm gonna say C plus. I say C plus. Honestly,
there was a.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Good defensive line like this is not You mentioned that
they had a really a competition, granted, but they did
have a really good UH rush defensive, you know, statistically
a good rush defense, I mean, statistically an elite rush
defense coming into this game. But competition UH was was

(15:33):
lacking there. So you know, I think maybe give Washington
some credit there. So I'm not going to go quite
as hard. Did you say, Serior C plus Kyle C plus.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
That there's I thought there's a number of times that
the offensive line got like zero zero push at all,
And look at that fourth down conversion at the five
yard line. I mean that a perfect example right there.
And there's other times too it was like did they
have another I think it was another fourth down that
they Yeah, it was another fourth down they did get.

(16:10):
But I think a lot of it was just that
was on CJ. Donaldson just making that really good effort
to get that yard and a half. I think he
got like a yard and a half and you only
needed a yard, but the offensive line didn't really help
him too much to get that extra push there. So
that's I'd like to see a little bit better from

(16:30):
the offensive line on the on the run block.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
All right, where do you find a real fullback esquire?
Would be my question. I mean it's they're not even
popular in high school anymore. Lead blocking is a dead
is a dead art. Yeah, so someone who specializes in

(16:58):
lead blocking is.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
A dead art. What do you what do you rate, Jared?

Speaker 1 (17:04):
I did a be all right, I'm just giving Washington
a little bit of credit.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
There, Okay, all right, past block? One sack? What's that
giving up? And yeah? Only one sack for uh for
this O High state offensive line to give up here?
So yeah, I I thought the pass block was really

(17:29):
spot on. There wasn't that. There wasn't that.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
I think there was a lot of pressure up the
middle at times they cause saying have to get rid
of the ball quickly.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
I was my first my first gut was a minus.
I thought they did really well overall. Yeah, there's there's
times that you said, Jared, that there's that saying how
to use his legs to get out to make a
play happen. But I think overall, like I thought they did,
I thought they did pretty well in a in a

(18:02):
very loud environment. I thought they did really well. Did
there was there's only one only one false start for
the offensive line, I will say.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Uh, which is impressive considering the environment they're playing in.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Yep. Uh.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Sorry, Cayle, What was your grade receiving.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Receiving hmmm, very very thinking of expectations here with with
how the what we're expected these off, these receivers to
be with Jeremiah and Tad, Ennis, thurmin Claire, all of
them there, I thought they did well. I don't really

(19:03):
think there was any drops.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Not that I remember.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
I'm just looking at the stats here and yeah, I
don't think there were any drops at all. Yeah, i'd
say an a, I can't really think of anything negative. Hey,
i'd tell you.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yeah, I mean saying didn't have his normal super clean
pocket to throw from this game. At times, Washington was
soft shelling. The entire game didn't really allow for a
lot of deep plays from Ohio State. So there aren't

(19:44):
any like spectacular numbers. But as you said, like there
was no drop passes. They made plays when they had to.
So yeah, from a receiving standpoint, nothing spectacular, but but
perfectly fine. I'll go a minus.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Okay, right, Hey, I got nick all right, drives conversions
six for ten on third downs, one for two, and
fourth downs they were four for five in the red
zones with three touchdowns. I think I think that's fine.

(20:28):
I think that's fine. Uh, I'm gonna grade it a
little bit lower because of the failed fourth down inside
the red zone there gotta gotta convert that. So I
agree because because of that, I'm gonna I'll say B plus.
It would it would have been like an A. It
would have been like an A for me if if

(20:48):
they got that and scored a touchdown. But I gotta
I gotta grade that partially, so I say B plus.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
I think you're spot on, absolutely got Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
And explosiveness is the is the last rating or the
grading I should say for for the offense here if
I'm looking, if I'm looking here at like big plays here,
there's biggest play was nineteen yards nineteen yards.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Yeah, I mean Washington. It was Washington's game was was
was the shell was to play you know, Cover four
and other. You know, they were going to make Ohio
State march down the field. That was the game plan.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
In marching down the field they did.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Yeah, And you know, I think that's that's what you're
going to see against the Ohio State. I think that
we've seen it for a few games now. That appears
to be the book. That appears to be the new
book on Ohio State, especially with the wide receivers that

(22:05):
Ohio State has, push all over top, make them march
the field. It's gonna limit the explosiveness, but it limited
the explosiveness. So it is what it is. I'm gonna
go like a C plus on explosiveness.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah, I was thinking of B minus, which is what
I was thinking taking consideration of what Washington was trying
to do. So yeah, B minus C plus. Yeah, I
think that's fine. All right, we overdue on an AD break,
so we'll go ahead and take our first AD break

(22:44):
real quick here, Jared, and then we'll talk about the defense.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
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Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yeah, Jeremiah's touchdown was nineteen yards eighteen? Was that?

Speaker 2 (23:26):
What was that?

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Was the nineteen A different play?

Speaker 2 (23:30):
It was? Okay, Jeremiah had that one too. Here. I
know it's not probably not going to show up in
the in the chat on the on the YouTube here,
but for those in the discord here, discord dot the
swoopcast dot com, always be pluggin. Yeah, that's that is

(23:51):
the According to the stats here, which classified as big
plays which is fifteen plus yards for passing and ten
plus yards for rushing. Atra House they had nine and
Washington had eight. But those eight they had or bigger
plays though, because they had one, two, three, four plays

(24:14):
of twenty or more yards.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Okay, Kyle, defensive game plan.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
All right? Game plan? I mean the game plan was
keeping Williams contained. He was he can be a very
mobile quarterback, but they sacked the crap out of him. Yeah,
six sacks. Six sacks for forty six yards lost in here.

(24:45):
I thought the game plan was was great that It's like,
you're gonna have to consistently be great to drive down
and score points here, and they really didn't. They had
They had two field goals to show up for that,
so I thought they did really well. I say an
A for the game plan.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yeah, I'm actually gonna go in with like an A plus.
You saw. I think this was a very you know,
you have a defensive coordinator who is of the NFL,
And I think what you saw was a very NFL
game plan. They weren't gonna let Washington get cheap short yards.

(25:29):
They weren't gonna let Washington get big plays over the top.
And yeah, sometimes that left the middle of the field
a little bit open. You can't guard the entire thing,
So the middle of the field was a bit open.
There were you know, a number of passes and like
that six to twelve yard zone that were open. You know,

(25:50):
but you have a really good quarterback who can complete
those passes, and you have really good wide receivers who
can get open and find the soft spots in the zone.
You know, you can't guard the entire field.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
So Williams Williams actually had a better percentage completion Jared
than Saying. Saying had seventy nine percent complete, Williams Williams
had eighty two percent.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
That's because Williams doesn't, no matter, throw away the ball.
If we're being real, like if Saying could have had
more sacks and a better completion percentage too if he
wanted to. But yeah, no, I mean, so that's that
stuff was available and they took it. And then when

(26:35):
you got into the red zone. The you know, you
no longer have to worry about the deep stuff over
the top, but so you keep playing hard on the
short stuff and now your long range defense becomes your
middle defense and you shut them down in the red zone.
Was it a little bit frustrating at times when the
other quarterback completes eighty two percent the passes he throws?

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Did it work in the end? Yeah, all right?

Speaker 2 (27:02):
In game in game coaching, I can't really think of
anything really negative. Really. I mean, when when they can
when they had Washington on third down, they stopped them.
Washington was one for eleven on third downs here, So
in game coaching to like, hey, let's get off the field.

(27:25):
They they did that. They did that, So I think
I think in game coaching was just great. And yeah,
there were times there were times that Coleman broke away,
got a long run here and there, frustrating that they
didn't get off the field earlier. But I can't really

(27:46):
complain a a for in game coaching as well.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
I'm gonna throw a plus on it. They can't. You know,
it needs to be said, this is a really really
efficient coach, talented Washington offense, holding this team to six
points is a wonderful achievement.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Tackle. I was just looking. I was just looking offensively. Again, granted,
I feel like competition record here, competition. They were number
three in the country in points per game at forty
eight and a half. They knew how to and they
know how to put up points. And a state only

(28:33):
giving up six. I projected ten because I know how
good a state's defense is. But less than ten there, Yeah, fantastic, fantastic.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Spike says, what was that fake field goal try? We
had like three guys ready for it. It almost looks
like it kind of looks like they had that fake
field goal on it kind of looks like it got
called off because the highest state was very much ready
for it.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
The tight end had no idea what was going on? Well,
misunderstood Well, I wonder if.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
They got called off because only the kicker and the
punter were still on board. Ohio State was on board.
They were ready for it. The kicker, you know, the
kicker in the holder were going for it, but no
one was out there to get to to I don't

(29:28):
know if he maybe thought it was a run the
tight end for Washington. I don't know what the heck happened.
But even if it hadn't been some sort of big miscommunication,
it wasn't going anywhere.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
M hm, okay, all right, tackling a couple of miss tackles,
a couple of miss tackles, and some of them definitely
got more yarded than they needed to. Uh Again, Williams
is very shifty, Coleman is an excellent running back, Boston

(30:04):
and Evans are are pretty good receivers. But yeah, they
got to do a little bit better, a little bit
better on tackling there. So I'll say I'll say B.
I'll say B for me.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Well, as Spikes kind of alludes to in the chat,
it was kind of a I'm not gonna say it
was all one guy, but there was one guy in
particular was missing a few of those tackles, especially some
of the more meaningful ones.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah, you know, I know, we all know we're not
gonna throw people under the best here, but I think people, A, right,
what do you got, Jared, what's your what's you're rating?

Speaker 1 (30:51):
I'm gonna go with an A minus again because it
was I don't I don't think it's a I don't
think it was a whole team issue. Yeah, the knee
drop was fortunate. Yeah, I mean it was almost a
freaking athletic play. But you know that's why it would

(31:13):
have been freaky athletic to pull it off, because that's
incredibly difficult to pull off.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Yeah, all right, run run stop. All right. Stats are
a little misleading here. Sure, aust State held Washington thirty
attempts for sixty one yards, averaging two yards of pop.
But Oho St. Hate had a crapload of sacks forty

(31:40):
sixty yards of yardage loss for the sacks. So I'm
just gonna go off of their running back Coleman's stats here,
which is thirteen attempts for seventy yards, averaging over almost
five and a half yards per hop. Again, granted he
had he had a couple of long long runs there.

(32:03):
Actually actually he had one. He had that one, really
long one. Yeah, you know, almost exactly half half the
yardage on that one there. So I guess it's not
It's not as bad as I thought it was. It wasn't,
so I I think I think they do well, especially
containing Williams. And we saw it there. There's I'll get

(32:26):
to it in the in our next grading here, but
it really contained Williams from saying you got to be
at us using your arm and yeah, didn't. He really didn't,
So i'd i'd say, hey, I honestly, I would say he.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Here, Yeah, it's the thirty four yard or I can't.
I can't. I'm a good b plus yeah, I mean
Coleman's a good running back.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
But again, it was one play. It was one play
versus the on this that's here rush.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Sometimes it is.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
One play, okay, all right, pass rush, all right. There
was a lot a lot of people in our chat
Jared during the game that was very, very very harsh
on the pass rush here early on, early on, early

(33:25):
because there was a there was a lot of not
enough pressure. Williams has all day to throw and that's
why he was and that's why he had a great
percentage eighty two percent completing the ball.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
But Ohio State was going a little to contain. Yeah,
you have to find the balance between contain and pressure,
and they were getting a little heavy on the contain.
Mm hmm, I mean do you disagree.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Yeah. I felt they were very playing I kind of
jokingly jokingly Jared said that they seemed like the defensive
line at times was playing a. The entire line was
playing a QB spy. Yeah, and I know that. I
know they weren't, but.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
I didn't know. But you're but you are right. It
looked like that.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Mm hmm. But I think I think, I think the
pass rush was I think it was fine. And six
sacks really helps, really helps shops out.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
But but when we talked about those six sacks, it's
it is fair to acknowledge it. Washington gives up a
ton of sacks. And I was joking about this earlier,
but it's true. Damon Williams doesn't know how to throw
the damn ball away.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Yeah, they were. They were averaging if I can do
this real quick, they were averaging a sack for every
twelve and a quarter uh percent of the time that
they that they throw the ball. Ohio State in this game, Jared,
Let's do it the other way, twenty seven percent of

(35:12):
the time they got a sack. When when Williams was
making up passing attempt.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Yeah, Esquire says the number of times it seemed like
the defensive line is being blocked because they were chilling,
then immediately shed their guy to prevent Williams from scrambling. Sure,
and that's what they were coached to do.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
So you know, I'm sorry the twenty one percent of
the time.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Again, still like containment is good. Leaning into containment is good.
The first few drives, you know, it's a it's a
sliding bar. Containment is a sliding bar. And I think
that they kind of maxed out on containment, and you know,
you didn't need to max out containment. And as the
game went on, they seemed to, and especially as Washington

(36:05):
needed to throw the ball, Ohio States started to move
that bar a little bit further into the pass rush territory.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
Yeah, and this was I'm not going to say it's
a coming out party, but it was MVP quality, I'll
say it game from Kadan Curry. Eleven tackles by a
defensive end, eleven nine of those were solo. Nine of

(36:35):
those eleven were solo tackles, three sacks, and five tackle
for losses.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
The three sacks will get the big headlines, but like
his ability to run down behind the offensive line and
you know, snag the running back from behind was huge.
The way he would, yeah, the way he would just

(37:01):
chase the motion, scrape down the line. He was a
wrecking machine. Absolute wrecking machine.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Absolutely all right. Pass coverage here.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Pass coverage again, consider the competition they're playing, I think
is important here. And I know that there was again
some frustration about the middle of the field being open
at times. I think sometimes their slot wide receiver got

(37:38):
a little too open at times. I'll acknowledge that. But
when the defensive line was playing to contain and not rush,
which gave Williams time, and when Ohio State was again
sort of selling out against the long ball and against

(37:59):
the short stuf that is going to leave the middle open,
I think that's kind of a pick your poison. Ohio
State said, you know, short, middle, long, let's take away
two of them. And I think that the stuff getting

(38:19):
the stuff getting completed over the middle was you know
that that was the bargain they made.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
That's how I see that. So I'm going to go
with an A minus because again, this is an incredibly efficient,
high powered offense and you held them the six points
and at the end of the day, Williams only had
one hundred and seventy three passing yards, even if it
felt like more than that.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Yeah, I thought they did. They did really well here.
In credit to like Ohio State defensively had yeah, zero
the defensive backs had zero penalties, like no holdings. Yeah,
the defensive back said, actually, in general, the defense didn't

(39:11):
have any holdings. But either way, no holding, no passing
interference or anything like that too. Kept everything in front
for the most part. Yeah, I think as I think
A minus is good. Yeah, another clean game by Iggy.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Yeah it was called clean. You know, there was no Yeah,
he's still Jared st He's still he's still a little handsy.
The I'll say this, you wanted to keep Denzel Boston
in checking this game. Three catches, twenty six yards, no

(39:49):
touchdowns obviously, and completion percentage when throwing the Denzel Boston
Denzel Boston was only sixty percent. You took their best
wide receiver out of the game.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Yep, absolutely, And.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Yeah, that's gonna leave Roebuck and Amari Evans open more.
That's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Yeah, yeah, rock Is Yeah played well. Yeah. Keep an
eye on Desmond Roebuck for the next rest of this year,
in the next two years. Uh, I believe he's a
true freshman for Washington here.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
We are super behind on time. I know, I know,
we need, we need, we need to go impact place.
Uh six sacks.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
One, yeah, six sacks here. I mean that's that's that's
the line right there. There was a big impact place.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
So I I'd say, hey, yeah, you always like to
see a force turnover. So I'm gonna go B plus.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
And stops one for one for eleven.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Uh on, this is an A plus. This is an
A plus plus. We don't do plus pluss, but if
I could, I'd.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Give them an A plus, A plus, A plus the.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Red zone, red zone and and everything else. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Yeah, and containment they contain contained the crap out of Williams.
I don't know how much better you can do for
a very mobile quarterback. They did it. They did exceptional
A plus for a containment as well.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Yeah, I mean I think I do need to read
this one always. I think throws us their a little
bit of confusion. Containment is more like preventing big plays.
It's it's explosiveness. But on the other side, So think
about containment more like.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
That an then A minus then yeah, I need.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
To rename that one.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Yeah, all right, all right, quick succession here overall teams
for overall for the teams.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Here, Jared literally we were commenting live, thank God, the
defense is in the red zone, now, you know, I
I literally at one point, literally at one point during
the game, I got Washington fucked up there in the
red zone. This drives dead.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Uh endgame coaching doing overall here.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
A hey, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Uh motivation effort.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
A Yeah, I don't, I don't. I don't think that
was ever the issue.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Yeah, execution, I'm going to rate this one lower. I'm
going to say B. I'm gonna say B on this one.
Dumb penalty, dumb personal foul.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
On on both sides, that one probably under discipline.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
But yeah, I guess you're right. Yeah, so actually I'd
still stick with bee of execution, like you fail to
get points in the red zone, you're not the five
yard line. Yeah, Yeah, that's that's a that's a big
that's a big mark up for me. I'll stick with
the bee, all right. Yeah, discipline, I'll stay with the

(43:19):
bee as well to personal foul by the Daniels personal
foul and then uh with with the dump with the
dumb unsportsmanlike conduct as well.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Yeah, Daniels was the hands to the face, right, Uh,
that was his personal foul. It wasn't.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Yes, that what you're right, Yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
His wasn't stupid. It was just the had a couple
holding calls. Wasn't a good discipline game as far as that's, yeah, exactly,
it's it's an it's an effort penalty, not a stupid penalty.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Yeah. I'll stick with the bee though. Yeah. Uh special
special team D. I gotta go deep.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
Yeah, you can't turn you can't turn the ball over.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
I'm not giving an f just because our our kicker
is still perfect fielding sure, still perfect, and he brings
he brings it up to a passing grade.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
There, but stop the the fake may move yeah to
and they I'll stop the fan. They may move to
a D minus. They didn't stopped. Ohio State didn't stop
the fake. What Washington's fake was was.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Dead on the hole and nobody going up to receive.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
All right, But we talked about this at the beginning
of the show. Ohiost they only had seven possessions in
this game. You can't give away one on the punt return,
which would have made it eight.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Yeah, turnovers, I don't know how to rate this one.
Jared has not done Ja Satan has not done well
in turnovers this year. They are they are in terms
of takeaways, they are one and twenty.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
First, right, now, let me say this, and this doesn't
necessarily apply to the gate to this game, but from
a season perspective, it's hard to force a lot of
turnovers when the other team just straight up doesn't have
the ball much. And again, like this, this game was
like fifty to fifty as far as possession goes, But

(45:32):
the other games, the other teams just haven't had the
ball that much.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Fair fair, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
I guess they were minus well yeah, I mean yeah,
it can't be a good grade, but it was. It
was literally just the punt that was the only turnover
in the entire.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Game, right, yep, yep, all right. Overall offense kind of
just looking down real quick. A lot of a's, I see,
see a lot of b's in there. I guess average
to like a bb pl LUs I would say for
the for the offense, I think I think it's fair.
I think I'll do I think i'll do B plus.
I think i'll do B plus. Just because of that,

(46:09):
you scored on seven seven of your drives. Uh if
I'm looking here, not seven of your seven wow, four
of your drives. Four of the seven you score.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
But here, let's let's make it four of six. They
were clearly just ending the game on that last drive,
last drive, your last four drives, you score? Yeah, yeah, okay, uh,
you go with this. I'll go with the standard B
right defense A. I'm gonna tax point yeah, all right.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
And overall for for this game here, if I'm going,
if I'm going my average here B plus N A,
I'll do an A minus. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
I mean, I mean, I I think I said it.
I I think the I think the defense had a
special football game. The offense. The offense was was was
there and was fine. I I I think I do

(47:19):
expect more from the offense, So I think I'm not
I'll go with an A minus. I. I I want
I want to see Ohio State beat an unranked team
by by more points. And I think Washington's a pretty
good unranked team. I will acknowledge this. They they they
are ay as far as unranked teams, they're pretty good.

(47:48):
But I want to see I want to see more
points on the board against an unranked football team who,
by the way, and again Washington has a really really
really good offense. But they gave up, but they but
they let some other They let some not great teams
put up points against them, more points than Ohio State had.
And again the possessions and the YadA YadA, yah, it's

(48:08):
not apples to apples, but this, this team should have
had more points. The High States should have scored more points.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Sure, all right, I think, well, I think that's it there.
That is our grade card. Let's take a snapshot of
that and put that into our records.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
All right, we'll do. Kyle, this is the We're we're
going pretty far over. So I'm just gonna ask you
super quick, do you have anything in Kyle's corner?

Speaker 2 (48:38):
I do not glated to Ohio State here, And because
we're running way over, I will, I will. I'll just
say that we have three professional teams in the state
of Ohio that are making it to the playoffs this
uh this.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Fall all right?

Speaker 2 (49:00):
I got the Crew, the Crew, the Indians, and the Reds.
All right, all right, represented from the from each of
the seas.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Yeah, each team, each team with a representation. How about that? Yeah,
from the coffin to the playoffs, says Spikes. All right,
uh so congrats, Yeah, I I I think I knew,
I mean, I did know, should I have been confident

(49:33):
in knowing. That's a different question, but I knew what
where did my confidence come from? I don't know, but
I somehow knew that I don't know anything about baseball,
but somehow I knew that. All right, that's it. That's
the end of tonight's episode. Today's episode Tonight's ending music
brought to you by a Columbus based band called Snarls

(49:55):
s n A r l S Snarls. So I, with
all that being said, I'd like to Kurt encourage everyone
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of course support look podcasters.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
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to say that I'm setting deeper. I'm gonna be a
long cold. So I put on the same bucking out
the doors, keep the note of the chore, So put

(50:24):
out feeler. Got a little reader tonight.

Speaker 4 (50:31):
Yeah I am. I don't want to. I am so
everybody saying she's as ships.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
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Speaker 5 (51:08):
Favor and I think she's almost get it by aster
blinker like sa hand, and she's thought as thin and
not had to pieces.

Speaker 4 (51:24):
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Speaker 5 (51:31):
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Speaker 4 (51:35):
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Speaker 3 (51:38):
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Speaker 4 (51:42):
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Speaker 3 (51:46):
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Speaker 4 (51:50):
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yeah yeah. Song everybody says.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
It is.

Speaker 4 (53:06):
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Speaker 2 (53:08):
Cool, I have like.

Speaker 4 (53:21):
That's good. Listen to must said so right.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
Sorry they can stop.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
All right, that's so true.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Fucking Christ.

Speaker 4 (53:33):
Agreed of because they're trauma Box. Give me like a
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Speaker 2 (54:19):
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