⚠️ Trigger Warning:
This episode contains sensitive content including the loss of a family member to suicide. Please listen with care, and seek support if you are in a vulnerable place.
In this soul-stirring episode of the Sober Chapters podcast, host Didi Jordan is joined by Branwen Walker, an intensive care nurse who shares her powerful and deeply personal journey through grief, sobriety, and spiritual transformation. After losing her father to suicide, Branwen turned to alcohol as a coping mechanism. Though she led what many would consider a healthy lifestyle, alcohol had quietly become a destructive force that amplified her emotional pain.
Everything changed one day in a pharmacy queue. As she waited for antidepressants, a poster about alcohol's impact on mental health caught her attention and sparked a realisation. That moment led to a courageous decision to remove alcohol from her life and begin a journey of healing from the inside out.
Now eight months sober and having recently completed the Sober Chapters 100 program, Branwen reflects on what it means to truly feel again. Without alcohol numbing her emotions, she discovered the raw beauty of presence, the ability to experience life fully, including its grief, joy, uncertainty, and hope. Her story offers a powerful reminder that sobriety isn’t about losing out; it’s about gaining clarity, peace, and a renewed sense of purpose.
Branwen speaks openly about navigating social events like weddings and hen parties while staying alcohol-free, and how each challenge strengthened her confidence. She also shares the profound spiritual reconnection she experienced in sobriety, describing how nature, stillness, and self-trust began to guide her in new ways. Her mantra, “anything that falls away is meant to,” speaks to the deep inner shifts that occur when we prioritize our well-being and let go of what no longer serves us.
Now training to become an alcohol-free coach herself, Branwen is using her story to help others heal and feel less alone. Her path is a testament to how our personal healing can become our greatest gift to others.
You can follow Branwen’s continued journey on Instagram at the.growing.spirit
If this episode resonated with you, please leave a review and send a screenshot to didi@soberchapters.com for a chance to win a free coaching session. For more tools, stories, and support, follow @sober_chapters on Instagram or visit www.soberchapters.com.
Thank you for being here and for being a part of The Sober Chapters Community.
LINKS/RESOURCES
Follow Didi @ sober_chapters on Instagram
Website for more information on Didi and her services/coaching programs available at www.soberchapters.com
FREE GUIDE: 69 Tips, Tricks & Resources to assist you during your own sober chapter available via the link on sober_chapters and via the sober chapters website.
If you enjoyed listening please rate, review and subscribe to enable the messages to be spread as far and wide as possible.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello and welcome to the Sober Chapters podcast.
I am your host, dee Dee Jordan,and I'm so excited to be
sharing with you all of theincredible ways that removing
alcohol for a chapter willreinvent you forever.
You see, removing alcohol isabout so much more than removing
alcohol.
It's about immense personal andspiritual growth.
(00:22):
It's about discovering who youtruly are and about stepping out
of your patterns and into yourpurpose and your power.
Wherever you are on youralcohol-free or sober curious
journey, this podcast is for you, so grab yourself your favorite
cuppa and come join me in asafe space to listen, to share
(00:46):
and to feel I'm so grateful thatyou're here.
Before we begin, I want to letyou know that this episode will
contain discussions around theloss of a family member to
(01:09):
suicide.
This may be triggering for somelisteners, especially those who
have experienced personal lossor have struggled with suicidal
thoughts themselves.
If you feel uncomfortable atany point, please feel free to
pause, skip or stop listening tothis episode.
Welcome to another episode ofthe Sober Chapters podcast, and
(01:34):
today I'm joined by the lovelyBranwyn Walker, who has recently
just completed the SoberChapters 100 program with me, as
well as being one of myone-on-one clients, and she has
just been on this incrediblejourney of transformation over
the last few months.
It's been an absolute pleasureto witness and she's being super
brave and coming on my podcasttoday as her first podcast.
(01:55):
So welcome, bran.
Thank you so much for coming on.
Hi Didi, thanks for having me.
I just wanted to give you theopportunity to have a chat about
everything that you'veexperienced and I guess you know
, to share so much of whatyou've been through, because,
it's it like I say, it hasreally been incredible to
(02:16):
witness all the growth andtransformation and all the hard
work that you put in.
I really want to add that aswell.
Um, so perhaps just start bysharing.
You know how long you've beenalcohol, alcohol free and and
how that came about for you andwhat that journey's looked like
so far yeah, so it's nearly beeneight months, which is wild.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
It's gone so fast.
Um, I think I was sort ofplanning my story out of what,
how I should it, and I thinklike it goes way back.
I live in Newcastle in Englandand if anybody knows it, it's
quite a big drinking place.
So I first tried sort ofalcohol for the first time as an
(02:57):
alka-pop at like 11.
And then I didn't drink foryears.
And then really at 16 is whenit started cranking up and sort
of from there, yeah, the latehigh school, sick form, classic
uni played sport.
It was very the done thing to goout and get drunk at that point
and I think that just sort ofthe pattern continued for a
(03:22):
little while.
When I was about 25, I tookthree months off was the longest
I was with someone at the timeand we were sort of trying to
get fit and healthier and took abreak, but it was always no
doubt that I was going to end upgoing back to it.
And then, sort of around 2019,I ended up in sort of a bit of
an unsafe situation that Ireally didn't like and that sort
(03:45):
of exacerbated some anxiety, um, around drinking.
And then I worked.
I'm a nurse, I work in ITU, um,and did that all throughout the
pandemic and again, not as agreat coping strategy, but a lot
of alcohol was involved um andthen in 2022, my dad died um by
(04:08):
suicide and really and thedrinking was exacerbated again
after that for about a year.
And then I was stood, stood in aqueue in a pharmacy waiting to
pick up antidepressants becausemy grief was so, so heavy at
that point.
And I looked on the wall andthere was a poster that had all
(04:31):
the different ways that alcoholcan affect your body, and on
there was mental health juststaring at me and I pride myself
on.
I'm a nurse.
I generally live a prettyhealthy life.
I go to the gym, I try to eatwell and do all these things
yoga, meditate and the glaringthing that was staring back at
(04:52):
me was you're still drinking.
This is really, really hurtingyou now.
And it was such a massive mindshift that I was like you just
need to stop doing this.
And I think it was probablyanother couple of months after
that of sort of taking breaksand drinking every couple of
weeks and just feeling worseevery time I drank.
(05:13):
Until I was on holiday, I had abeer with lunch and I was like,
no, that's it.
That was my last drink and thatwas on the 26th of September
2024.
And yeah, and here we are.
I went with the lovely Didi todo, um, yeah, the Soap Chapters
100 from January, um, and it'sbeen a ride since then.
(05:38):
Um so good.
And yeah, I have no intentionof going back to it now through
the process that we've kind ofbeen through on that, through
the course and through theone-to-one coaching yeah, yeah,
what.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
What a journey.
And yeah, it's been, like I say, it's been incredible.
You've put so much work in,been so committed to it, but
it's it's well.
Yeah, congratulations on nearlyeight months, obviously amazing
, and everything else thatyou're doing as well, because
you've just Been so committed toit.
But it's well, yeah,congratulations on nearly eight
months, obviously, andeverything else that you're
doing as well, because you'vejust I mean, you have gone full
force, brad, with all of it,haven't you?
And you're really a testamentto.
(06:15):
It's not just about removing thebooze, it's about going all in
on yourself and giving you thatgift of self-exploration and
really peeling back those layersand really getting to know
yourself and doing all thathealing work as well.
And you have, you've thrownyourself into it and just come
on like leaps and bounds and andnow it's incredible because
you're actually going on to givethat gift back to others, which
(06:37):
I'm so, yeah, it's soinspirational that you've done
that.
So I mean, naturally it's, it'sobviously within you to be
helping others, the way that youdo with nursing, and then to
kind of transfer that over tobecoming a coach as well.
So Bramwyn's going on to doalcohol-free coaching.
You're currently doing that atthe moment aren't you?
yeah, yeah, with Carolina yeah,with Carolina, who is who I
(07:00):
certified with as well, and youknow going through that course,
which will be an amazing way ofgiving all of the you know all
of the learnings that you'vegone through back to others, and
I'm sure there's just so manyareas you're going to be able to
help people with as well.
With what you've been throughand I know you touched on grief,
which was obviously somethingthat you were you know you were
in the the midst of and and I'msure there's still lots of
(07:22):
challenges that that happen withgrief like it's an ongoing
process.
But how has being alcohol freereally helped you with that
grief and healing process inparticular?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, I think um, obviously, having drank for the
first sort of year of it, um,looking back it's very easy to
see that that the alcohol waslike pouring fire on a bad
situation um, pouring petrol ona bad situation and creating the
fire just awful and and I think, definitely contributed to the
(07:54):
downward spiral in the mentalhealth from that and obviously
how much I ruminated in thegrief and um with the loss by
suicide, obviously the questionsthat come up and all of that
around it, really um became likea big focus in my life and
really sort of pushed everythingelse away.
(08:16):
So it was difficult to see.
And then, since, since workingthrough through that and taking
the alcohol away, I can, I nolonger am putting or trying to
put um what do you call it likea veil over that.
I can see it for what it is andactually feel the feelings and
recognize it, work through themwhen they come um and and move
(08:41):
past them.
But I think the biggest thingit's given me is um like the
presence.
I didn't want to waste my lifelike.
Obviously you start to evaluateyour own life, don't you when
you lose someone and been tothink what kind of life do I
really want to lead and am Ireally here for it?
And I felt like every time Iwas drinking, I was sort of
(09:04):
distancing myself from life, Iwasn't fully absorbed in it, I
wasn't feeling all the feelings,I was putting everything off.
And now, without that, I feeleverything.
I feel all the good, feeleverything.
I feel all the good things, Ifeel all the sad things, and
that's how I want to live mylife, um, fully embracing it all
, and it just feels like a wholenew world's opened up.
(09:28):
Really, um, it's amazing like Ifelt like uncertainty before
was so, so scary and something Ireally didn't like.
I liked routine, I liked thingsthe way that felt safe.
And now I'm like, oh my gosh,no, actually not knowing and
just trusting something biggerthan yourself that positive
(09:51):
things are coming.
I just I feel like that's a muchmore empowered way to live than
worrying about every singlelittle thing and that doesn't
mean I don't still get worriedabout things, but it's much
easier to go, wait a minute andstep back and have that, that
pause, breathing space, whateveryou like to call it and then go
(10:13):
forward and be like, no, I cando this and trust that other
people have your back yeah, yeah, that's beautiful like it is,
it's.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
It's that link, isn't it, between, I think?
I think when we drink it, justit kind of it lends itself to
that controlling everything,mindset and being much more in
our heads and the anxiety thatcomes with it.
And you know, certainly from myown journey, it was very much
about removing alcohol and then,yeah, letting go, trusting,
tapping into that faith, tappinginto my heart, into, you know,
(10:43):
my feminine feeling, all thefeelings being in our body, and
that's, you know, that's theprocess that you've been going
through and it's so evident tosee it as well, bran, and you
know it's clearly playing out inall areas of your life and and
how would you say, it's kind ofhad an effect on, like, the
spiritual growth element for you.
Like, what benefits have youseen when it's come to that as
(11:07):
well?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, I totally, totally agree.
Like the disconnection is thebiggest thing, isn't it?
And I think like that's key,like after losing the alcohol,
you come back into your body,back into your heart and back
into more connection withliterally everything, and I
think with that comes the, thedivine, the god, the universe,
whatever you like to call it.
(11:29):
Like connection, because youliterally see the beauty in all
the little things um, in natureand flowers and people.
Like it's so much easier toconnect.
It really is like not puttingthat barrier in the way anymore
um and yeah, I fully embrace it.
(11:49):
I always thought I was aspiritual person and then it's
just accelerated it offcompletely, I think and just,
yeah, part part of the trust.
If you can trust yourself again, you start to trust other other
things, don't you?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
and yeah, I think, yeah, it's been massive you feel
so much like yeah and it and itjust leads to, you know, it's
like all the noticing, all thoselittle signs and
synchronicities and all theglimmers and the magic and yeah
and it's.
You know, we want to be presentfor all of that.
That's, that's what I feel.
It's like I wouldn't want tomiss any of that stuff because,
(12:27):
you know, it can be reallysubtle and it's really easy to
block it out and, of course,even just because I don't drink
it doesn't mean I like seeeverything, like I can still get
in my head and all the things.
But yeah, we're able to kind oflike realize when that's
happening and come back to ourhearts a lot easier.
And, you know, use our practicesand what have you?
To get connected again withoutjust that heavy, yeah, that
(12:49):
heavy veil, as you say, like,yeah for sure, um, yeah, it's
just, I love all of it and Iknow as well you've had a couple
of weddings recently, haven'tyou, that you've been to.
You're going through that phaseof like doing all the firsts,
and I love speaking to peopleabout all this because it
reminds me those firsts arereally special.
(13:09):
But how have they been?
How have the weddings been?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
how socializing been, especially, as you say, being
in England yeah, um, it's beenreally interesting, actually, um
, and like very much, uh, usingthe experience as sort of a
brand new learning, like seeingit as learning and like seeing
it as a beginner in a newsituation, rather than being
like, well, I've done all thisbefore, um, it's really doing
(13:35):
everything properly again forthe first time.
Um, there was a bit of socialanxiety, um, sort of the first
one particularly more so um,just with no one left, less
people there and things, um, butit really does become, uh, just
embrace that feeling for a fewminutes and and, yeah, if you
need to go and take a breaksomewhere a bit quieter, then
(13:57):
that's fine.
Like no one's judging you forthat.
We think again.
We get so much in our heads,don't we?
And thinking that other peopleare thinking about us, but
they're not.
They're thinking aboutthemselves.
And like same.
At the second wedding, someonedirectly asked me oh, how do you
find dancing sober at a wedding, like instead of drinking, and
I'm like everybody else is toobusy having a good time, like
(14:19):
thinking about themselves.
They're not thinking about meand how I'm dancing, like it
just doesn't matter.
Um, so I think that I felt theconfidence much strong, stronger
in the second one than thefirst one, and that was in like
the period of two weeks.
So, um, yeah, I think it's just.
It just grows exponentially,doesn't it like the more like
(14:41):
you say that you're providingproof for yourself and that you
can do it that, like, thestronger you resolve gets um
which is is really really cool.
Um so, yeah, it's good, and I'vegot my first hen do or
bachelorette party this weekend,so wish me luck that it
continues the same amazing.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Yeah, well, look the third time.
The second time was easier.
The third time, I'm sure, andlike you said, there'll still be
difficult moments.
But again, it's having thosepractices and knowing how to,
like, take yourself away orground back into your body or
whatever it might be, and you'rejust getting more and more
tools in your toolkit.
But you know, on that, that isthe nervous your toolkit.
But you know, on that, that isthe nervous system healing
element, right?
So you know, the first timeit's super scary, it's super
(15:20):
unknown, we feel really unsafein our bodies, our nervous
system's like panicking.
But it's just, you know, everytime we take those baby steps
forwards and you know again, itjust shows how much growth there
is in being sober, because it'slike, well, something that you
couldn't do initially.
The next time you're much moreconfident.
You've given yourself thatproof, you feel safer within
(15:41):
your nervous system to do itagain.
And you know it'll keep going.
Those baby steps will keephappening, you'll keep healing
your nervous system even moreand it will get to a point where
I know there was something thatyou really wanted to do.
I think was it cream fields ohwarehouse project warehouse
project.
Okay, all right, which I is that?
Is that happening this year, oris it?
Is it?
I haven't booked it.
I haven't.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
It's on, though, is it that does?
Oh, yeah, it's on every year.
On every year.
Yeah, it's like a big indoorrave.
Um, yeah, for people that don'tknow.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Um, yeah, yeah, we'll see about that yeah, we'll see,
but one day it will happen,because this is what you know I
always share about like I bangon about, you know, my love for
music and dancing and all ofthat but I needed alcohol, or I
thought I needed alcohol.
I remember I used to feel likeI needed to be a certain level
of like drunk, I suppose, to beable to get on the dance floor
(16:33):
and to let myself go.
And then it kind of like, overtime, I kept putting myself in
these social situations.
I kept, you know, just yeah,like just just doing it more and
more, like with the rightpeople in the right energy, and
all of that.
But it ended up, um, in Ibiza,you know, dancing in Ibiza,
having the most incredible time,sober, so full of natural highs
.
And I always talk about thatbecause I think it gives hope to
(16:55):
people that think that theycan't do those things anymore.
And you know, don't get mewrong, I don't think you want to
go and do it all the time,because I think that priorities
change and you end up doingother things that fill your cup
up as well, but I think that wecan still do those things that
really light us up.
So I know you're going to endup there one day doing a sober
dancing.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah for sure yeah, no, that would.
I would also love to go to befair.
That'd be amazing to do.
To do that sober as well.
Um, yeah, yeah, it's mad, isn'tit?
Like the?
There's a particular thingabout going back to somewhere
where you used to be drunk andnow you're not drunk anymore.
It's such a um, a weird likestep not stepping back in time,
(17:39):
but you can feel your body dosomething that's like oh, this
feels so much better this timebecause you're not um and I
think, like you're talking aboutthe dancing and things, really
reminds me of um somebody hadsaid to me like you don't always
have to heal through beingmiserable and sitting, sitting
alone and feeling all thefeelings, like go and feel it
(18:00):
through the joy, and like go andhave fun, and like that can be
as healing, if not more healing,than um sort of doing all the
traditional stuff around that aswell yeah, and I'm glad you
brought that up because I thinkthat when we are on a bit of a
mission to go through thishealing journey, like it can get
really heavy at times.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
And it does get heavy and I think that it yeah, it's
such an important point to makethat, to have fun, and you know,
also like playfulness and allof that, and you know, really
finding those things that lightus up, like it is important to
do that like I was guilty ofthat, to be honest, for a while,
like I just got so like buriedin creating sober chapters,
buried in the sobriety, buriedin my own growth and healing
(18:42):
that at times I was like, oh mygoodness, I need to just go and
let my hair down.
And you know, making sure thatwe schedule that in for
ourselves for sure.
But also, I think anotherbeautiful part is, like you know
, being able to remember whatbrought us joy when we were
little as well, right, likebecause that's what we uncover.
It's like when you take boozeaway.
It's like you kind of getreminded of what lit you up
(19:03):
before.
That was ever a thing anyway,and you know that, yeah, that's
really special to tap into thatand to get really sort of
connected with our inner childas well, which again is another
part of what we've been doing,right yeah, totally, totally,
and it's really emotional partof it as well, um, which,
obviously, depending on whatyou've been through, is yeah, it
(19:25):
was so healing as well andsomething I definitely will keep
going back to, yeah, explore aswell.
Yeah, yeah what would you say tosomebody that's kind of, maybe
sober, curious at the moment andyou're dabbling here and there
and is kind of, you know,worried about?
You know what they might loserather than what they might gain
(19:45):
from sobriety, like what wouldbe on your heart to tell them my
immediate thing is is thatanything that falls away is
meant to.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
If you, making a positive choice for yourself,
feels really right for you, thenit becomes a thing of you,
worth more than anything else, Ithink in your life and like,
you've got to put yourself first, because you're the the only
thing that's going to be trulywith you the whole time.
(20:17):
Um, and yeah, anything elsethat's not meant for you will
fall away, and maybe that'sreally painful at the time, but
in the long run you'll you'llunderstand why that plays out,
because something better isprobably coming.
Um, and, like I know a lot ofpeople hate the whole.
Everything happens for a reason, but actually I am at the point
(20:41):
now where I think things dohappen for a reason.
We just don't understand ituntil we get to the next point,
past that, and then we can lookback and go, oh right, okay, I
get that now, no matter howhorribly painful it is.
I think for me, that's whatI've noticed when I look back
and it also makes those reallyrubbish times worth it and you
(21:05):
prove to yourself that you canget through really tough things,
because life is hard, um, aswell as being brilliant and
beautiful and and all the goodthings.
So if, yeah, if you can do onething, choose you, and
everything else will fall intoplace.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
I love that.
That's so gorgeous.
Yeah, no, absolutely, and it's.
It is so intrinsically linked,isn't it, with the spiritual
element.
You know I always talk about it.
I really believe we're allguided to remove it for a reason
.
And if you've got thatintuitive nudge that you know
it's not serving you anymore,and you're listening to podcasts
like this and you're relatingto these kind of stories, like
(21:43):
really trust that, becausethat's really what led me on the
growth path in the first place.
Like there are no coincidences.
Like if you come across apodcast or you come across
someone that you want to followon um instagram or you're
getting curious about things.
Like curiosity is justincredible, it's an incredible
path to transformation.
And really like learning totrust that and follow that
(22:03):
because it it will only lead tobeautiful things.
Like I don't know anybody thatregrets going sober curiosity.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I mean, that's how I found you.
You popped up on my Instagramwhen I then started looking for,
when I was super, super, um,sober curious and really
starting to take a big break atthe the beginning of 2024.
And that's how I found you.
You popped up on my Instagramand if I hadn't followed you, I
wouldn't have done the coaching.
One Instagram.
And if I hadn't followed you, Iwouldn't have done the coaching
(22:34):
one-on-one, I wouldn't havedone the course, I wouldn't be
doing my own coaching course andI might not have ended up eight
months sober.
It's such a unraveling quickly,isn't it, of actually how
things can progress and changeso dramatically and, yeah,
changed so dramatically.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
I yeah, I don't think anyone ever regrets going sober
and it is like it is such abeautiful, a beautiful gift and
it's, you know, it's somethingthat I it's been really wild.
Actually, I've been back herein Worcester and it's where,
like, I grew up and so it'sreally taken me back to, you
know, know, my teenage years,those dark years.
Like you mentioned.
You started drinking alcohol atlike 11 or what have you, and I
(23:13):
was similar and I had somereally dark years with it, from
like the ages of like I don'tknow, maybe like 16 to 18.
And you know, I go back and Ijust, yeah, I just it's been
really quite confronting, likebeing here and seeing it all.
I've got like so much love forthat younger version of me and
in some ways I'm just like Iwish I could have done things so
(23:35):
differently and known and hadthe tools and, you know, and had
people to guide me.
But I didn't.
And I think to your point aboutlike we're all on this path for
things that happen like that.
You know it's it's, it'shappened for a reason and not
like that, though.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
I was listening to a Tony Robbins thing the other day
and they kept saying if I couldgive you a hundred thousand
dollars now, would you take itor would you rather go back and
talk to your younger self?
And I immediately was like money, and he said that most people
don't choose, that most peoplego to choose and talk to their
younger self.
But if you talk to your youngerself, you're going to tell them
(24:14):
stuff that they don't need toknow yet and you will never
become the person you are now.
If you went back and butterflyeffected that and think of what
you could do with that money nowto benefit either yourself or
lots of other people throughlots of different things was how
I saw it, and I thought it wasreally interesting that
everybody else was like well, Iwould go and talk to my younger
(24:34):
self and it's like but you'regoing to spoil it, yeah we come
here to learn lessons, don't weright, we come here to learn
lessons, to evolve, and you know, it's all part of our own
unique divine path, absolutely,and that's how we learn, that's
how we grow.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
And yeah, and obviously, when we sort of get
to that point and we realizethat and we learn through that,
like it does make all thechallenges like so much easier
to embrace.
And it might feel really yuckyin the moment, but, yeah, you
can look back and just be likethat totally happened for a
reason and it's led me to thispoint now.
And, yeah, I wouldn't, Iwouldn't even change how long it
took me to give up.
Now, like, sometimes I'm like,oh god, what I could have
(25:16):
achieved in that time if Ihadn't drunk.
But I wouldn't, I wouldn'tchange any of it because it's,
you know, it's led me to exactlythis place and to be able to
help in the way that I can.
And the same for you.
You know you've been through somuch and you're gonna be able
to help so many people with allof the, all of the things that
you've been through.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Brian, it's, it's amazing, yeah, I hope so it then
helps it think of it's not justabout you, doesn't it?
It's about?
It's about helping the widercommunity, as you say, like if
you can help somebody else notfeel like they're alone and
weird or whatever.
Like until I started exploringlike all the books, the podcast
(25:53):
and stuff, I was like, oh, thisis just me, I'm the only person
that feels like this.
My friends seem to sort ofcrack on and be like oh, don't
worry about it, like you weretotally fine or like we're all
hung over, it's fine.
And I'm like, no, it isn't.
It doesn't feel fine at all forme and I need to do something
about this.
And then you start exploringthings and you're like, oh, my
god, it's not just me.
(26:14):
I'm I'm not in quotes normaldrinking, but I'm not the only
one that's doing it and feelslike this.
And then you're like the worldopens up.
Yeah, yay, other people havedone it yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I can too you had that deep knowing.
Your higher self was callingand you listened and look what's
unfolded.
Yeah, and it is that feeling ofthat like there must be more,
there must be something more.
I was talking to one of my bestfriends here.
Actually, she gave up alcohol aweek after me.
We were just saying, like itgot to the point where it was
like something just didn't feelright, like everyone else was
(26:49):
drinking at house parties andall of that, and it was just
like no, there must be more tolife, there's got to be
something more, and I think thatis that is the curiosity, that
is your intuition, and that iswhat you definitely should
follow.
Um, so, yeah, amazing.
Thank you so much, bram.
Like you've been incredible.
I've loved working with you.
I'm so, bram, like you've beenincredible.
I've loved working with you.
I'm so excited for everythingthat you've got ahead of you as
(27:11):
well.
Like on such an amazing pathand, yeah, we'll catch up soon.
Thank you so much for coming onthe podcast.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
No, thank you so much for having me, didi, obviously,
thank you so much foreverything we've done together
so far as well.
It's been amazing.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Thanks, bram, it's been amazing.
Thanks ran, and you can followbran's incredible journey of
transformation and everythingthat she's got planned going
forwards on instagram at the dotgrowing dot spirit.
Thank you for listening totoday's episode of the sober
chapters podcast.
I hope you enjoyed it and gotlots of good information from it
.
I'm really keen to share thesemessages as far and wide as
(27:51):
possible, and I know howimportant it is to receive
reviews to do so.
If you're feeling called, Iwould love you to leave a review
from whatever platform it isthat you're listening on, and if
you send me a screenshot ofthat review to dd at
soberchapterscom, I will put youinto the mix of winning a free
one-on-one coaching session withme.
(28:12):
If you would like to learn moreabout Sober Chapters and to
follow along on Instagram it'ssober underscore chapters You'll
find lots of differentresources on there and a free
guide 69 tips, tricks andresources for anyone that is
embarking on a sober chapter.
If you'd like to learn moreabout my one-on-one coaching
(28:33):
group, coaching programs andmasterminds, then please go to
wwwsoberchapterscom.
I'd also love to hear from youIf you have any feedback or you
need any guidance or you haveanything at all you'd like to
reach out to me about, thenplease do email me at dd at
(28:54):
soberchapterscom.
I would love to hear from youand support you in any way that
I can.
Hello and welcome to the Sober Chapters podcast.
I am your host, dee Dee Jordan,and I'm so excited to be
sharing with you all of theincredible ways that removing
alcohol for a chapter willreinvent you forever.
You see, removing alcohol isabout so much more than removing
alcohol.
It's about immense personal andspiritual growth.
(00:22):
It's about discovering who youtruly are and about stepping out
of your patterns and into yourpurpose and your power.
Wherever you are on youralcohol-free or sober curious
journey, this podcast is for you, so grab yourself your favorite
cuppa and come join me in asafe space to listen, to share
(00:46):
and to feel I'm so grateful thatyou're here.
Before we begin, I want to letyou know that this episode will
contain discussions around theloss of a family member to
(01:09):
suicide.
This may be triggering for somelisteners, especially those who
have experienced personal lossor have struggled with suicidal
thoughts themselves.
If you feel uncomfortable atany point, please feel free to
pause, skip or stop listening tothis episode.
Welcome to another episode ofthe Sober Chapters podcast, and
(01:34):
today I'm joined by the lovelyBranwyn Walker, who has recently
just completed the SoberChapters 100 program with me, as
well as being one of myone-on-one clients, and she has
just been on this incrediblejourney of transformation over
the last few months.
It's been an absolute pleasureto witness and she's being super
brave and coming on my podcasttoday as her first podcast.
(01:55):
So welcome, bran.
Thank you so much for coming on.
Hi Didi, thanks for having me.
I just wanted to give you theopportunity to have a chat about
everything that you'veexperienced and I guess you know
, to share so much of whatyou've been through, because,
it's it like I say, it hasreally been incredible to
(02:16):
witness all the growth andtransformation and all the hard
work that you put in.
I really want to add that aswell.
Um, so perhaps just start bysharing.
You know how long you've beenalcohol, alcohol free and and
how that came about for you andwhat that journey's looked like
so far yeah, so it's nearly beeneight months, which is wild.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
It's gone so fast.
Um, I think I was sort ofplanning my story out of what,
how I should it, and I thinklike it goes way back.
I live in Newcastle in Englandand if anybody knows it, it's
quite a big drinking place.
So I first tried sort ofalcohol for the first time as an
(02:57):
alka-pop at like 11.
And then I didn't drink foryears.
And then really at 16 is whenit started cranking up and sort
of from there, yeah, the latehigh school, sick form, classic
uni played sport.
It was very the done thing to goout and get drunk at that point
and I think that just sort ofthe pattern continued for a
(03:22):
little while.
When I was about 25, I tookthree months off was the longest
I was with someone at the timeand we were sort of trying to
get fit and healthier and took abreak, but it was always no
doubt that I was going to end upgoing back to it.
And then, sort of around 2019,I ended up in sort of a bit of
an unsafe situation that Ireally didn't like and that sort
(03:45):
of exacerbated some anxiety, um, around drinking.
And then I worked.
I'm a nurse, I work in ITU, um,and did that all throughout the
pandemic and again, not as agreat coping strategy, but a lot
of alcohol was involved um andthen in 2022, my dad died um by
(04:08):
suicide and really and thedrinking was exacerbated again
after that for about a year.
And then I was stood, stood in aqueue in a pharmacy waiting to
pick up antidepressants becausemy grief was so, so heavy at
that point.
And I looked on the wall andthere was a poster that had all
(04:31):
the different ways that alcoholcan affect your body, and on
there was mental health juststaring at me and I pride myself
on.
I'm a nurse.
I generally live a prettyhealthy life.
I go to the gym, I try to eatwell and do all these things
yoga, meditate and the glaringthing that was staring back at
(04:52):
me was you're still drinking.
This is really, really hurtingyou now.
And it was such a massive mindshift that I was like you just
need to stop doing this.
And I think it was probablyanother couple of months after
that of sort of taking breaksand drinking every couple of
weeks and just feeling worseevery time I drank.
(05:13):
Until I was on holiday, I had abeer with lunch and I was like,
no, that's it.
That was my last drink and thatwas on the 26th of September
2024.
And yeah, and here we are.
I went with the lovely Didi todo, um, yeah, the Soap Chapters
100 from January, um, and it'sbeen a ride since then.
(05:38):
Um so good.
And yeah, I have no intentionof going back to it now through
the process that we've kind ofbeen through on that, through
the course and through theone-to-one coaching yeah, yeah,
what.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
What a journey.
And yeah, it's been, like I say, it's been incredible.
You've put so much work in,been so committed to it, but
it's it's well.
Yeah, congratulations on nearlyeight months, obviously amazing
, and everything else thatyou're doing as well, because
you've just Been so committed toit.
But it's well, yeah,congratulations on nearly eight
months, obviously, andeverything else that you're
doing as well, because you'vejust I mean, you have gone full
force, brad, with all of it,haven't you?
And you're really a testamentto.
(06:15):
It's not just about removing thebooze, it's about going all in
on yourself and giving you thatgift of self-exploration and
really peeling back those layersand really getting to know
yourself and doing all thathealing work as well.
And you have, you've thrownyourself into it and just come
on like leaps and bounds and andnow it's incredible because
you're actually going on to givethat gift back to others, which
(06:37):
I'm so, yeah, it's soinspirational that you've done
that.
So I mean, naturally it's, it'sobviously within you to be
helping others, the way that youdo with nursing, and then to
kind of transfer that over tobecoming a coach as well.
So Bramwyn's going on to doalcohol-free coaching.
You're currently doing that atthe moment aren't you?
yeah, yeah, with Carolina yeah,with Carolina, who is who I
(07:00):
certified with as well, and youknow going through that course,
which will be an amazing way ofgiving all of the you know all
of the learnings that you'vegone through back to others, and
I'm sure there's just so manyareas you're going to be able to
help people with as well.
With what you've been throughand I know you touched on grief,
which was obviously somethingthat you were you know you were
in the the midst of and and I'msure there's still lots of
(07:22):
challenges that that happen withgrief like it's an ongoing
process.
But how has being alcohol freereally helped you with that
grief and healing process inparticular?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, I think um, obviously, having drank for the
first sort of year of it, um,looking back it's very easy to
see that that the alcohol waslike pouring fire on a bad
situation um, pouring petrol ona bad situation and creating the
fire just awful and and I think, definitely contributed to the
(07:54):
downward spiral in the mentalhealth from that and obviously
how much I ruminated in thegrief and um with the loss by
suicide, obviously the questionsthat come up and all of that
around it, really um became likea big focus in my life and
really sort of pushed everythingelse away.
(08:16):
So it was difficult to see.
And then, since, since workingthrough through that and taking
the alcohol away, I can, I nolonger am putting or trying to
put um what do you call it likea veil over that.
I can see it for what it is andactually feel the feelings and
recognize it, work through themwhen they come um and and move
(08:41):
past them.
But I think the biggest thingit's given me is um like the
presence.
I didn't want to waste my lifelike.
Obviously you start to evaluateyour own life, don't you when
you lose someone and been tothink what kind of life do I
really want to lead and am Ireally here for it?
And I felt like every time Iwas drinking, I was sort of
(09:04):
distancing myself from life, Iwasn't fully absorbed in it, I
wasn't feeling all the feelings,I was putting everything off.
And now, without that, I feeleverything.
I feel all the good, feeleverything.
I feel all the good things, Ifeel all the sad things, and
that's how I want to live mylife, um, fully embracing it all
, and it just feels like a wholenew world's opened up.
(09:28):
Really, um, it's amazing like Ifelt like uncertainty before
was so, so scary and something Ireally didn't like.
I liked routine, I liked thingsthe way that felt safe.
And now I'm like, oh my gosh,no, actually not knowing and
just trusting something biggerthan yourself that positive
(09:51):
things are coming.
I just I feel like that's a muchmore empowered way to live than
worrying about every singlelittle thing and that doesn't
mean I don't still get worriedabout things, but it's much
easier to go, wait a minute andstep back and have that, that
pause, breathing space, whateveryou like to call it and then go
(10:13):
forward and be like, no, I cando this and trust that other
people have your back yeah, yeah, that's beautiful like it is,
it's.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
It's that link, isn't it, between, I think?
I think when we drink it, justit kind of it lends itself to
that controlling everything,mindset and being much more in
our heads and the anxiety thatcomes with it.
And you know, certainly from myown journey, it was very much
about removing alcohol and then,yeah, letting go, trusting,
tapping into that faith, tappinginto my heart, into, you know,
(10:43):
my feminine feeling, all thefeelings being in our body, and
that's, you know, that's theprocess that you've been going
through and it's so evident tosee it as well, bran, and you
know it's clearly playing out inall areas of your life and and
how would you say, it's kind ofhad an effect on, like, the
spiritual growth element for you.
Like, what benefits have youseen when it's come to that as
(11:07):
well?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, I totally, totally agree.
Like the disconnection is thebiggest thing, isn't it?
And I think like that's key,like after losing the alcohol,
you come back into your body,back into your heart and back
into more connection withliterally everything, and I
think with that comes the, thedivine, the god, the universe,
whatever you like to call it.
(11:29):
Like connection, because youliterally see the beauty in all
the little things um, in natureand flowers and people.
Like it's so much easier toconnect.
It really is like not puttingthat barrier in the way anymore
um and yeah, I fully embrace it.
(11:49):
I always thought I was aspiritual person and then it's
just accelerated it offcompletely, I think and just,
yeah, part part of the trust.
If you can trust yourself again, you start to trust other other
things, don't you?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
and yeah, I think, yeah, it's been massive you feel
so much like yeah and it and itjust leads to, you know, it's
like all the noticing, all thoselittle signs and
synchronicities and all theglimmers and the magic and yeah
and it's.
You know, we want to be presentfor all of that.
That's, that's what I feel.
It's like I wouldn't want tomiss any of that stuff because,
(12:27):
you know, it can be reallysubtle and it's really easy to
block it out and, of course,even just because I don't drink
it doesn't mean I like seeeverything, like I can still get
in my head and all the things.
But yeah, we're able to kind oflike realize when that's
happening and come back to ourhearts a lot easier.
And, you know, use our practicesand what have you?
To get connected again withoutjust that heavy, yeah, that
(12:49):
heavy veil, as you say, like,yeah for sure, um, yeah, it's
just, I love all of it and Iknow as well you've had a couple
of weddings recently, haven'tyou, that you've been to.
You're going through that phaseof like doing all the firsts,
and I love speaking to peopleabout all this because it
reminds me those firsts arereally special.
(13:09):
But how have they been?
How have the weddings been?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
how socializing been, especially, as you say, being
in England yeah, um, it's beenreally interesting, actually, um
, and like very much, uh, usingthe experience as sort of a
brand new learning, like seeingit as learning and like seeing
it as a beginner in a newsituation, rather than being
like, well, I've done all thisbefore, um, it's really doing
(13:35):
everything properly again forthe first time.
Um, there was a bit of socialanxiety, um, sort of the first
one particularly more so um,just with no one left, less
people there and things, um, butit really does become, uh, just
embrace that feeling for a fewminutes and and, yeah, if you
need to go and take a breaksomewhere a bit quieter, then
(13:57):
that's fine.
Like no one's judging you forthat.
We think again.
We get so much in our heads,don't we?
And thinking that other peopleare thinking about us, but
they're not.
They're thinking aboutthemselves.
And like same.
At the second wedding, someonedirectly asked me oh, how do you
find dancing sober at a wedding, like instead of drinking, and
I'm like everybody else is toobusy having a good time, like
(14:19):
thinking about themselves.
They're not thinking about meand how I'm dancing, like it
just doesn't matter.
Um, so I think that I felt theconfidence much strong, stronger
in the second one than thefirst one, and that was in like
the period of two weeks.
So, um, yeah, I think it's just.
It just grows exponentially,doesn't it like the more like
(14:41):
you say that you're providingproof for yourself and that you
can do it that, like, thestronger you resolve gets um
which is is really really cool.
Um so, yeah, it's good, and I'vegot my first hen do or
bachelorette party this weekend,so wish me luck that it
continues the same amazing.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Yeah, well, look the third time.
The second time was easier.
The third time, I'm sure, andlike you said, there'll still be
difficult moments.
But again, it's having thosepractices and knowing how to,
like, take yourself away orground back into your body or
whatever it might be, and you'rejust getting more and more
tools in your toolkit.
But you know, on that, that isthe nervous your toolkit.
But you know, on that, that isthe nervous system healing
element, right?
So you know, the first timeit's super scary, it's super
(15:20):
unknown, we feel really unsafein our bodies, our nervous
system's like panicking.
But it's just, you know, everytime we take those baby steps
forwards and you know again, itjust shows how much growth there
is in being sober, because it'slike, well, something that you
couldn't do initially.
The next time you're much moreconfident.
You've given yourself thatproof, you feel safer within
(15:41):
your nervous system to do itagain.
And you know it'll keep going.
Those baby steps will keephappening, you'll keep healing
your nervous system even moreand it will get to a point where
I know there was something thatyou really wanted to do.
I think was it cream fields ohwarehouse project warehouse
project.
Okay, all right, which I is that?
Is that happening this year, oris it?
Is it?
I haven't booked it.
I haven't.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
It's on, though, is it that does?
Oh, yeah, it's on every year.
On every year.
Yeah, it's like a big indoorrave.
Um, yeah, for people that don'tknow.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Um, yeah, yeah, we'll see about that yeah, we'll see,
but one day it will happen,because this is what you know I
always share about like I bangon about, you know, my love for
music and dancing and all ofthat but I needed alcohol, or I
thought I needed alcohol.
I remember I used to feel likeI needed to be a certain level
of like drunk, I suppose, to beable to get on the dance floor
(16:33):
and to let myself go.
And then it kind of like, overtime, I kept putting myself in
these social situations.
I kept, you know, just yeah,like just just doing it more and
more, like with the rightpeople in the right energy, and
all of that.
But it ended up, um, in Ibiza,you know, dancing in Ibiza,
having the most incredible time,sober, so full of natural highs
.
And I always talk about thatbecause I think it gives hope to
(16:55):
people that think that theycan't do those things anymore.
And you know, don't get mewrong, I don't think you want to
go and do it all the time,because I think that priorities
change and you end up doingother things that fill your cup
up as well, but I think that wecan still do those things that
really light us up.
So I know you're going to endup there one day doing a sober
dancing.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah for sure yeah, no, that would.
I would also love to go to befair.
That'd be amazing to do.
To do that sober as well.
Um, yeah, yeah, it's mad, isn'tit?
Like the?
There's a particular thingabout going back to somewhere
where you used to be drunk andnow you're not drunk anymore.
It's such a um, a weird likestep not stepping back in time,
(17:39):
but you can feel your body dosomething that's like oh, this
feels so much better this timebecause you're not um and I
think, like you're talking aboutthe dancing and things, really
reminds me of um somebody hadsaid to me like you don't always
have to heal through beingmiserable and sitting, sitting
alone and feeling all thefeelings, like go and feel it
(18:00):
through the joy, and like go andhave fun, and like that can be
as healing, if not more healing,than um sort of doing all the
traditional stuff around that aswell yeah, and I'm glad you
brought that up because I thinkthat when we are on a bit of a
mission to go through thishealing journey, like it can get
really heavy at times.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
And it does get heavy and I think that it yeah, it's
such an important point to makethat, to have fun, and you know,
also like playfulness and allof that, and you know, really
finding those things that lightus up, like it is important to
do that like I was guilty ofthat, to be honest, for a while,
like I just got so like buriedin creating sober chapters,
buried in the sobriety, buriedin my own growth and healing
(18:42):
that at times I was like, oh mygoodness, I need to just go and
let my hair down.
And you know, making sure thatwe schedule that in for
ourselves for sure.
But also, I think anotherbeautiful part is, like you know
, being able to remember whatbrought us joy when we were
little as well, right, likebecause that's what we uncover.
It's like when you take boozeaway.
It's like you kind of getreminded of what lit you up
(19:03):
before.
That was ever a thing anyway,and you know that, yeah, that's
really special to tap into thatand to get really sort of
connected with our inner childas well, which again is another
part of what we've been doing,right yeah, totally, totally,
and it's really emotional partof it as well, um, which,
obviously, depending on whatyou've been through, is yeah, it
(19:25):
was so healing as well andsomething I definitely will keep
going back to, yeah, explore aswell.
Yeah, yeah what would you say tosomebody that's kind of, maybe
sober, curious at the moment andyou're dabbling here and there
and is kind of, you know,worried about?
You know what they might loserather than what they might gain
(19:45):
from sobriety, like what wouldbe on your heart to tell them my
immediate thing is is thatanything that falls away is
meant to.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
If you, making a positive choice for yourself,
feels really right for you, thenit becomes a thing of you,
worth more than anything else, Ithink in your life and like,
you've got to put yourself first, because you're the the only
thing that's going to be trulywith you the whole time.
(20:17):
Um, and yeah, anything elsethat's not meant for you will
fall away, and maybe that'sreally painful at the time, but
in the long run you'll you'llunderstand why that plays out,
because something better isprobably coming.
Um, and, like I know a lot ofpeople hate the whole.
Everything happens for a reason, but actually I am at the point
(20:41):
now where I think things dohappen for a reason.
We just don't understand ituntil we get to the next point,
past that, and then we can lookback and go, oh right, okay, I
get that now, no matter howhorribly painful it is.
I think for me, that's whatI've noticed when I look back
and it also makes those reallyrubbish times worth it and you
(21:05):
prove to yourself that you canget through really tough things,
because life is hard, um, aswell as being brilliant and
beautiful and and all the goodthings.
So if, yeah, if you can do onething, choose you, and
everything else will fall intoplace.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
I love that.
That's so gorgeous.
Yeah, no, absolutely, and it's.
It is so intrinsically linked,isn't it, with the spiritual
element.
You know I always talk about it.
I really believe we're allguided to remove it for a reason
.
And if you've got thatintuitive nudge that you know
it's not serving you anymore,and you're listening to podcasts
like this and you're relatingto these kind of stories, like
(21:43):
really trust that, becausethat's really what led me on the
growth path in the first place.
Like there are no coincidences.
Like if you come across apodcast or you come across
someone that you want to followon um instagram or you're
getting curious about things.
Like curiosity is justincredible, it's an incredible
path to transformation.
And really like learning totrust that and follow that
(22:03):
because it it will only lead tobeautiful things.
Like I don't know anybody thatregrets going sober curiosity.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I mean, that's how I found you.
You popped up on my Instagramwhen I then started looking for,
when I was super, super, um,sober curious and really
starting to take a big break atthe the beginning of 2024.
And that's how I found you.
You popped up on my Instagramand if I hadn't followed you, I
wouldn't have done the coaching.
One Instagram.
And if I hadn't followed you, Iwouldn't have done the coaching
(22:34):
one-on-one, I wouldn't havedone the course, I wouldn't be
doing my own coaching course andI might not have ended up eight
months sober.
It's such a unraveling quickly,isn't it, of actually how
things can progress and changeso dramatically and, yeah,
changed so dramatically.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
I yeah, I don't think anyone ever regrets going sober
and it is like it is such abeautiful, a beautiful gift and
it's, you know, it's somethingthat I it's been really wild.
Actually, I've been back herein Worcester and it's where,
like, I grew up and so it'sreally taken me back to, you
know, know, my teenage years,those dark years.
Like you mentioned.
You started drinking alcohol atlike 11 or what have you, and I
(23:13):
was similar and I had somereally dark years with it, from
like the ages of like I don'tknow, maybe like 16 to 18.
And you know, I go back and Ijust, yeah, I just it's been
really quite confronting, likebeing here and seeing it all.
I've got like so much love forthat younger version of me and
in some ways I'm just like Iwish I could have done things so
(23:35):
differently and known and hadthe tools and, you know, and had
people to guide me.
But I didn't.
And I think to your point aboutlike we're all on this path for
things that happen like that.
You know it's it's, it'shappened for a reason and not
like that, though.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
I was listening to a Tony Robbins thing the other day
and they kept saying if I couldgive you a hundred thousand
dollars now, would you take itor would you rather go back and
talk to your younger self?
And I immediately was like money, and he said that most people
don't choose, that most peoplego to choose and talk to their
younger self.
But if you talk to your youngerself, you're going to tell them
(24:14):
stuff that they don't need toknow yet and you will never
become the person you are now.
If you went back and butterflyeffected that and think of what
you could do with that money nowto benefit either yourself or
lots of other people throughlots of different things was how
I saw it, and I thought it wasreally interesting that
everybody else was like well, Iwould go and talk to my younger
(24:34):
self and it's like but you'regoing to spoil it, yeah we come
here to learn lessons, don't weright, we come here to learn
lessons, to evolve, and you know, it's all part of our own
unique divine path, absolutely,and that's how we learn, that's
how we grow.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
And yeah, and obviously, when we sort of get
to that point and we realizethat and we learn through that,
like it does make all thechallenges like so much easier
to embrace.
And it might feel really yuckyin the moment, but, yeah, you
can look back and just be likethat totally happened for a
reason and it's led me to thispoint now.
And, yeah, I wouldn't, Iwouldn't even change how long it
took me to give up.
Now, like, sometimes I'm like,oh god, what I could have
(25:16):
achieved in that time if Ihadn't drunk.
But I wouldn't, I wouldn'tchange any of it because it's,
you know, it's led me to exactlythis place and to be able to
help in the way that I can.
And the same for you.
You know you've been through somuch and you're gonna be able
to help so many people with allof the, all of the things that
you've been through.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Brian, it's, it's amazing, yeah, I hope so it then
helps it think of it's not justabout you, doesn't it?
It's about?
It's about helping the widercommunity, as you say, like if
you can help somebody else notfeel like they're alone and
weird or whatever.
Like until I started exploringlike all the books, the podcast
(25:53):
and stuff, I was like, oh, thisis just me, I'm the only person
that feels like this.
My friends seem to sort ofcrack on and be like oh, don't
worry about it, like you weretotally fine or like we're all
hung over, it's fine.
And I'm like, no, it isn't.
It doesn't feel fine at all forme and I need to do something
about this.
And then you start exploringthings and you're like, oh, my
god, it's not just me.
(26:14):
I'm I'm not in quotes normaldrinking, but I'm not the only
one that's doing it and feelslike this.
And then you're like the worldopens up.
Yeah, yay, other people havedone it yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I can too you had that deep knowing.
Your higher self was callingand you listened and look what's
unfolded.
Yeah, and it is that feeling ofthat like there must be more,
there must be something more.
I was talking to one of my bestfriends here.
Actually, she gave up alcohol aweek after me.
We were just saying, like itgot to the point where it was
like something just didn't feelright, like everyone else was
(26:49):
drinking at house parties andall of that, and it was just
like no, there must be more tolife, there's got to be
something more, and I think thatis that is the curiosity, that
is your intuition, and that iswhat you definitely should
follow.
Um, so, yeah, amazing.
Thank you so much, bram.
Like you've been incredible.
I've loved working with you.
I'm so, bram, like you've beenincredible.
I've loved working with you.
I'm so excited for everythingthat you've got ahead of you as
(27:11):
well.
Like on such an amazing pathand, yeah, we'll catch up soon.
Thank you so much for coming onthe podcast.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
No, thank you so much for having me, didi, obviously,
thank you so much foreverything we've done together
so far as well.
It's been amazing.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Thanks, bram, it's been amazing.
Thanks ran, and you can followbran's incredible journey of
transformation and everythingthat she's got planned going
forwards on instagram at the dotgrowing dot spirit.
Thank you for listening totoday's episode of the sober
chapters podcast.
I hope you enjoyed it and gotlots of good information from it
.
I'm really keen to share thesemessages as far and wide as
(27:51):
possible, and I know howimportant it is to receive
reviews to do so.
If you're feeling called, Iwould love you to leave a review
from whatever platform it isthat you're listening on, and if
you send me a screenshot ofthat review to dd at
soberchapterscom, I will put youinto the mix of winning a free
one-on-one coaching session withme.
(28:12):
If you would like to learn moreabout Sober Chapters and to
follow along on Instagram it'ssober underscore chapters You'll
find lots of differentresources on there and a free
guide 69 tips, tricks andresources for anyone that is
embarking on a sober chapter.
If you'd like to learn moreabout my one-on-one coaching
(28:33):
group, coaching programs andmasterminds, then please go to
wwwsoberchapterscom.
I'd also love to hear from youIf you have any feedback or you
need any guidance or you haveanything at all you'd like to
reach out to me about, thenplease do email me at dd at
(28:54):
soberchapterscom.
I would love to hear from youand support you in any way that
I can.
Popular Podcasts
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January of 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921. My Favorite Murder is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including historic true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.