Episode 9: Spiritual Signs and Embracing Heart-Based Decisions with Hazel Duffy the Founder of Enjoy Your Mine

Have you ever wondered how spiritual signs could guide your life's journey? Join me as I share an intimate conversation with Hazel Duffy, the inspiring Founder of Enjoy Your Mine. Hazel's story is one of resilience and purpose as she creates safe, inclusive spaces for workers in the mining industry. 

You won't want to miss our heartfelt discussion on the profound spiritual signs that have shaped both of our paths. Hazel and I recount the synchronistic events that have guided us towards deeper connections, meaningful choices as well as leading us to build our purpose led businesses.

Our stories reflect the transformative power of trust in spiritual guidance and the importance of following one's heart. We also emphasise the importance of investing in yourself and being surrounded with like-minded individuals who uplift and support. 

This episode is more than just a conversation; it's a celebration of community, intuition and the life-changing impact of sobriety. 


Tune in for an episode filled with inspiration, growth, authenticity and most importantly a lot of love.

You can find out more about Enjoy Your Mine at enjoyyourmine.com and Hazel is on instagram as Haze_duffy

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello and welcome to the Sober Chapters podcast.
I am your host, dee Dee Jordan,and I'm so excited to be
sharing with you all of theincredible ways that removing
alcohol for a chapter willreinvent you forever.
You see, removing alcohol isabout so much more than removing
alcohol.
It's about immense personal andspiritual growth.

(00:22):
It's about discovering who youtruly are and about stepping out
of your patterns and into yourpurpose and your power.
Wherever you are on youralcohol-free or sober curious
journey, this podcast is for you.
So grab yourself your favoritecuppa and come join me in a safe

(00:43):
space to listen, to share andto feel I'm so grateful that
you're here.

(01:05):
Welcome to another episode ofthe Sober Chapters podcast, and
today is, I'm just going to sayit, absolutely wild.
So I am currently sitting in astudio in Los Angeles and my
guest today is actually sittingin my house in Australia in the

(01:25):
seat that I usually sit in whenI'm doing these podcasts, and
I'm just looking at her now injust disbelief, because we
wanted to create somethingreally special for this episode,
because we have the mostincredibly special connection,
and I can even feel myselfwelling up just saying it,
because goodness knows what'sgoing to come up today.

(01:46):
There is just so much thatwe're going to cover.
So firstly, I'm going tointroduce this gorgeous lady.
Her name is Hazel Duffy.
I actually only met Hazel a yearago and it is literally the
most godly relationship that wecould ever have asked for the

(02:08):
most godly relationship that wecould have ever have asked for.
And she is the founder of anamazing organization called
enjoy your mine, which, um, itprovides a really safe space for
workers in the mining companies.
She has an incredible story andshe provides these workshops.
I'm actually one of thefacilitators, so I've been able
to advance my own journeythrough our connection.
We know that we're going to begoing on to do some incredible

(02:29):
work together for the rest ofour lives, and I think I've got
her in a lot of tears already.
So hopefully I'm able to handyou over to Hazel so that she
can chat through and introduceherself, and obviously the best
thing is she's alcohol free too.
Hey, gorgeous, do you want tointroduce yourself to everybody?

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah, oh, my god, I can't believe this.
But yeah, hey, everyone, myname is hazel and um, I'm the
founder of enjoy your mind.
Enjoy your mind is a socialenterprise that provides a safe
space for male and femaleworkers in the mining industry.
I'm still crying because, I'mjust so proud of you and, yeah,

(03:18):
just like the fact that you'rein la right now, living your
wildest dreams, and to have beenyour friends and to witness the
whole journey ups and downs,and to, just, yeah, see you
sitting right there.
It's just incredible.
It's such a good feeling, yeah,yeah your wins are literally
like my wins as well.

(03:38):
And um, yeah, so I provide, weprovide a safe space for male
and female workers in the miningindustry to come together and
to be guided professionally by awide range of facilitators.
And, yeah, didi is one of them,as she previously mentioned.
We've partnered with over 33facilitators at the minute and
we go through a wide range ofsectors within the well-being

(04:03):
space, so that can be anythingfrom like financial literacy,
education, you know, discussionaround um personal investments.
It can be around relationships,vitality, specifically around
like pain management, liketoolkits for pain and nutrition
and exercise, as well as havinglike cultural engagement

(04:23):
sessions, tedx speakers, even acomedian now, the likes of dd,
who was doing incredible space,or incredible work in the space
of, and, yeah, taking a soberchapter within your life to
really reach your full potentialand bring you closer to your
own values and worth.
And um, yeah, we have sleepcoaching as well, and it's

(04:46):
absolutely incredible to see howmuch it's grown over the past
two years with a lot of hardwork and dedication, but that's
all down to it being a lifepurpose.
And um, yeah, I guess it wasspecifically introduced after
the 50-50 target ratio.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
There's Billy that's my dog.
Everyone, he does this to me.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah, we'll just have to roll with that so there was
a 50-50 target ratio introducedinto the mining sector one
mining company specifically andthis was to bring in.
It was a 50-50 target ratiointroduced into the mining
sector one mining companyspecifically and this was to
bring in diversity and inclusionwithin the sector.

(05:32):
And whilst working in thesector for a good few years, I
saw this as an incredibleinitiative to make these changes
, but still not enough todismantle the industry's
reputation that we see today,which is anything from like
bullying, sexual harassment tomental health issues and suicide
, which is massive over here inthe mining industry.

(05:54):
we lose the life every secondday to suicide over here and um,
yeah, I guess it started fromlistening to my colleagues'
issues, what they were facing,and then eventually pinpointing
a solution to each problem, andthat's in a nutshell how it was
kind of an idea.
But then my own story was whenI eventually had a life-changing

(06:21):
injury on site due topsychosocial issues.
I was forced into stillness andforced to take my idea off the
piece of paper and into the realworld.
And when I made that decision,the world, the universe, god
just made it all happen for meand just brought the right
people into my life at the righttime.

(06:43):
So yeah, that's a little bitabout Enjoy your Mind, but I
mean, the story on how me andDidi met is just so truly
profound and it kind ofhighlights the interactions that
I've had with a lot of thefacilitators that are involved
as well.
But just nothing quite likethis.
And yeah, I'm so excited to seewhat we do in the future, going

(07:06):
forward thank you, hazel.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
And yeah, likewise, I'm just so incredibly proud of
you.
I agree, your wins are like mywins too, and I don't know.
I really feel like, well, weknow, we know that we've put on
this, been put on this path tobe together to, I guess, help
each other, conquer our fears.
And you know, it feels likewhenever you're going through

(07:32):
something, I'm able to sort oflike, I guess, guide you through
that, and then exactly the samethe other way around, and it's
just been so many examples ofthat.
So so many examples, and I'msure we're going to cover such a
lot.
And I'm just thinking now ofwhere I want to go with this,
because I think what I want tomention is that, as you probably

(07:54):
know, those of you that followme, like I'm very, very
spiritual, I have been, um, Iguess, following the guidance
you know, my angel number 69,all of the things that used to
happen to me when I used to takebreaks from alcohol, and I have
literally built sober chaptersoff the back of following that
guidance, getting receiving thatguidance, trusting that
guidance, following thatguidance, and I wouldn't have

(08:16):
this business and I wouldn'thave faced my fears if it hadn't
been for that guidance and forcontinuing to trust it and
follow it.
And I think what's so beautifulis that I've found this absolute
angel in my life who's beengoing through and building her
business in exactly the same way, and that is like gold to both
of us, because sometimes, whenyou're on the spiritual path,

(08:38):
you feel crazy because somepeople think, like when I see my
numbers, they're like what'sshe talking about?
You know, if people don't getit, I I understand they don't
get it, but when it happens toyou and you find someone that's
going through the same thing,yeah, it's just so, so powerful
and special and I think withthat, I'd love, hazel, for you
to share a little bit more aboutthat.

(08:59):
You know how Enjoy your Mindcame about and how that guidance
happened for you.
If that's okay, yeah definitely.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
But before we go any further, does your t-shirt say
Athens?
Yes yeah, I you're not gonnabelieve what happens.
This is just another momentthat it's all gonna make sense,
but I just got goosebumps.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
What are you gonna say?

Speaker 2 (09:19):
oh my god, this morning I you know the room next
to your dancer's bathroom the,the, the like the second, the
lounge area um, yeah, like theroom where you're getting some
renovation, yeah yeah, yeah so.
I left that door open and I wasgoing in there and Billy went in

(09:40):
there and and Billy, her dog,yeah.
And then I was calling her backin and she wouldn't come back
in.
She just stood still and shewouldn't come back in and I was
like, what does she want?
Why won't she come up to me?
And I just walked down thesteps to exactly where she was

(10:01):
and I looked to the right andthere was that T-shirt that says
Athens.
Right there, you have two ofthem, I have two of them.
And I was like, oh my god, Iwonder if she has a connection
to Athens, because I used tolive in Athens.
So I was like, oh my god,that's so weird that that just
happened.
And then I seen you wearing itand I was like, oh my god,

(10:22):
billie was literally like I knowshe's gonna wear.
Oh my god, oh my god, I swearwe're not crazy, guys, but
there's a lot of these kind ofthings that's been happening.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yeah, we'll we'll tell you, like there's some more
that will come out, because it,yeah, yeah, it's, it's, it's
wild, it's wild, but it's kindof how we live our life now and
yeah it is.
It's such a blessing and, yeah,I know that you received so
much of it when you started outwith enjoy your mind, and I'd
love to hear all of that againand for all the listeners

(11:01):
definitely so.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Um, my spiritual journey started pretty much just
about a year before enjoy yourmind became an idea and, um,
yeah, I was in a pretty roughsituation with a relationship.
But prior to the relationship Ihad a lot of friends that had
done like moon circles orwomen's circles and they would

(11:27):
do lots of spiritual rituals.
And then they started to speakabout omens and you know what a
butterfly meant and all thissort of thing, and I just didn't
believe any of it and, yeah, Ijust thought it was quite
therapeutic.
I was always open-minded untilI went into this relationship

(11:48):
and it was quite strange some ofthe things that happened.
I'm not even sure if I had toldyou this in that situation, but
just weird things would happen,like all of a sudden I was
going for a run and a fox wouldcome straight up to me and in,
like spiritual cultures, the foxis seen as something that can

(12:11):
be sly and it always kind ofstuck with me and it would come
up in the most strangest areas.
Where I was even in Sydney onholidays and a fox came right up
to me on the beach, like reallyaround me, and I was like was,
like you know, the first thingthat came to my head was sly fox
.
Anyways, I found out, um whythis is happening and there was

(12:33):
a lot of um, yeah, issues withinmy current um relationship at
the time and it was all exposedthrough little signs that I had
followed and, um, I guess that'swhen I began to just kind of
trust these signs.
But I also had a friend who Iwould love you to meet one day,

(12:53):
because I believe you will havean incredible connection and
conversation, and she used toalways follow the hearts and she
would see hearts absolutelyeverywhere, yeah, everywhere,
and her name is Billy, the sameas your dog, and she always says
, oh, my parents wanted a boyand then they ended up calling
me billy because, yeah, theywanted the boy's name, even

(13:16):
though it's a girl, and you saidthe exact same thing.
So it's kind of funny, um, butshe kept on picking up these
rocks that would be in the shapeof a rock and a heart and I was
like, oh my God, she's goingcrazy.
But like, it was just like soincredible because literally
everywhere she went was thisshape of a heart.
And, yeah, this shape of aheart led her to Tasmania, where

(13:42):
she's now married with herfirst baby to Tasmania, where
she's now married with her firstbaby, and she then found out
later on that Tasmania was infact in the shape of a heart.
So we just found that soincredibly and like profound.
But funny enough, we wererunning in Manly Beach in Sydney
and this man just came up to meand was like I need to talk to

(14:04):
you.
And I was like, okay, this is,yeah, a bit odd, but okay, let's
talk.
And he said God told me to giveyou this book.
And it was ask and it shall begiven.
And it's like a very um,profound bible passage and, um,
I didn't understand any of it atthe time and I was a bit like

(14:25):
judgy.
I was like what's going on?
Like you know, god told you togive this to me and he was like,
actually, you know what?
You are not ready for this yet.
So god told me to give it toyour friend.
So he gave it to my friend,billy.
He was like really likeconnected spiritually, and he
was like, well, I will tell yousomething is that the north star

(14:46):
is going to mean something likebig to you?
Just keep following it.
So for about a year or so Ikept on thinking, you know, I
was going to meet a guy with,like a north star tattoo or
something like this, and I wasgoing to fall in love and get
married and have kids.
So I made up a story as you hadtold me.
That's the ego and not to.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Loves the story, the ego, yeah, yeah, so I was like
this is what's going to happen.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
And then, you know, I was kind of yeah, I don't know
disappointed in certainsituations.
But then, as a few years wentby, that kind of left my mind,
and that was whilst I was inmining in New South Wales.
And then I was in the mines inWA and, yeah, it was just

(15:37):
incredible.
I had an incredible crew, justlike I did over in New South
Wales.
I really felt like it would bemy full, authentic self because
I felt safe around people I waswith.
I was giddy, you know, I couldtell my little witty jokes and I
just had so much joy in thatfeeling of just being who I am.
And, yeah, then eventually myworld kind of was flipped upside

(16:03):
down when I had that injury andI had to, yeah, do something
about it.
But I had this piece of paperwith the business idea for Enjoy
your Mind, because mycolleagues were going through so
many issues.
We had a toolbox meeting wherethe general manager spoke about

(16:27):
the allocation amount of fundingthat will go towards, uh,
well-being and mental health inthe industry or within this
mindset, and I was like, wow,okay.
He was like, if anyone has anyideas what we can use it for
speak up.
And I was like, oh my god, Ihave this idea, like, and um, I
got, I went up to talk to himbut something blocked me from
talking to him and I was like,well, maybe now's not the right

(16:49):
time, maybe I'm just supposed tolike listen to this and that's
it.
So I really trust those kind ofum, yeah, the, the blockages as
well, just as much as I believein the guidance to go forward.
And then I ended up meetingwith the woman who actually
brought in the 50 50 targetratio and we had a great chat.

(17:09):
But she was like I'm moreconcerned about your back and
she helped me a lot with thatsituation.
So I was eventually kind ofgetting worse and worse with my
back and I was at the stagewhere I couldn't really walk and
, um, yeah, it was very, verypainful mentally, especially

(17:31):
because I was so active.
I was training to do like bodycompetitions at the time.
I was running like so many k'sper day and jimming like twice
per day, so that stillnessreally did a lot for me of being
able to create and there'sanother really famous Bible
passage that says be still andknow and you will also find that

(17:52):
a lot of people have createdtheir businesses during the time
of COVID because of the time ofstillness.
So I think that stillness isdefinitely an incredible thing
to create, an incrediblecreation, um, but then, out of
nowhere, um, I was laying in bed, I was getting depressed
because I was so sore and mybest friend that I lived with in

(18:13):
malta she actually moved toaustralia with me and we were
living together at the time andshe's actually the one that told
me to get the idea off thepiece of paper into reality.
Um, yeah, she's veryencouraging, she's.
She's a good, incredible humanbeing.
And, uh, she was like my dreamis to travel Australia in a van
with you.
I just really want to do it.

(18:33):
And I was like no, I can't doit.
No, my back is too sore, mylegs are too sore, I won't be
able to do it.
And then another friend cameinto my life around that time
and she had said we're doing thetrip from Perth all the way to
the Northern Territory.
Do you want to come?
And I was like I can't, my backis too sore.
She was like well, you're notgoing to get any better sitting
in bed all day, are you?

(18:54):
At least you'll have loads ofus to like take care of you.
And you know, she just kind ofgave me that hard Irish tough
love.
Like come, tough love.
Like come on, get out of bed,you can do this.
Yeah, sure, from that day, Istarted seeing the north star
everywhere, like it was likesymbols everywhere, just
something, just like lit up.
I did like a 808 line gatesportal um session with one of my

(19:21):
friends who has very similarstories to you with how you
bought your house and everythingelse.
So I believe that you will alsohave a great connection one day
, um.
But yeah, so 808 is like the8th of august and it's an
incredible day to uh get rid ofthings that aren't serving you
anymore and introduce new thingsand to be able to manifest and

(19:44):
welcome that aren't serving youanymore, and introduce new
things and to be able tomanifest and welcome things that
will get you to your highestself.
And yeah, and that day she gaveeveryone a scratch card and she
knew how connected I was tosigns and I won exactly eight
dollars on the scratch card thatday and I was like, okay,
things are kicking off.
Yeah, and yeah they were.
I just started seeing the northstar everywhere and I started to

(20:06):
build my business.
I went to a female foundersevent in the city.
It was the first time I spokeabout my idea out loud and I got
a huge response about how muchit was needed.
Um, and yeah, I got my firstfacilitator on board that day.
Uh, she's an incredible womanwho helps a lot of immigrants
and refugees with their financesand their literacy, but she was

(20:30):
also in FIFO for a long time aswell and she's gone.
And, yeah, it all just kind ofwent from there.
I knew once I kept seeing theNorthern Star that I had to do
the North, from Perth all theway up to the north, because how
am I going to build thisbusiness?
So I got myself a laptop and,um, on the first, the first

(20:54):
night away, we ended up going toLancelin and there was a guy
there a little bit younger thanme and he had a north star
necklace and I was like, okay, Ineed to find out why that's
sticking out to me like a sorethumb, like without putting a
story on it at the time, becausehe was a bit younger.
Um, I need to figure it out.

(21:16):
And then, yeah, from then on itwas like everyone who joined us
on the road trip, was able toteach me something that has made
me who I am today and whatEnjoy.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
Your.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Mind is today.
We were diverse amounts ofindividuals from all over the
world, different backgrounds,culturally, and everything else
leaves as well, and I remember Iwas quite closed off and cold,
obviously, because I've beenvery hurt.
My heart was just entirelyclosed.
And then a friend of mine fromArgentina was going around

(21:52):
giving everyone hugs you knowyou can't go to bed without
giving each other a hug and hereally brought in like a sense
of community within our groupand everyone was just kind
because he kind of led with thatutmost amount of kindness that
we all followed it, which was,yeah, incredible.
My heart was open from that day.
Anyways, I was still verycurious about why this guy with

(22:15):
the star necklace was stickingout to me so much and you know
he fancied another girl in thegroup, so he was kind of
spending time with her, but Ijust wanted to know why it was
so strong.
And our first time in the cartogether he told me that he was
running his dad's business backin Belgium and he was listening

(22:40):
to what my ideas were for Enjoyyour Mind, and I was starting to
speak it out loud and it wasstarting to become like a real
reality.
And then he told me that heknew how to set up a website.
He knew a lot about businessmodels and, all of a sudden,
enjoy your mind started to belike really created from that
business perspective.
And every night before I wentto bed I was hours on the laptop

(23:03):
in my rooftop tent creating andhe was helping me.
Or another girl who was donecoding and her mom's business
was helping me.
Yeah, it was just so incredibleLike everyone that joined in
had some participation withinEnjoy your Mind and as we kept

(23:23):
going up, north, north, we werefaced with all of these massive
challenges, but I knew that, asa little diverse group that we
were, that there was nothingthat was going to stop us from
getting to our final destinationbecause we had each other.
So community became something Iwas very passionate about

(23:44):
because I saw what happened tous.
You know, we got bogged so manytimes.
Some people were running out offinances and we had to, like,
support each other that way.
Or, you know, someone ended upbreaking their leg and their
ankle in different places.
We had to support them.
So much happened in this lengthof time, but as a group we
could get through it.

(24:05):
But this connection that I hadwith this particular guy was so
different than anything I've hadbefore, on a friendship level
of course, and I just had thisamount of trust in him that I
just knew that we could getthrough anything and build
anything together on thisjourney.
And he started to see thethings working out within my

(24:28):
life because of this guidance,because of these signs, and I
think that was like probably abit, yeah, strange and worrying
some for him as well.
And, um, yeah, then I rememberbeing in Fort Headlands and I
was going to the toilet and Ijust saw a sign for Irish

(24:49):
magazines and it was the cloverthat Tony Robbins has on his hat
and I was seeing thateverywhere at the time as well.
So I just followed my way tothat building and I ended up
being the Minister ofInnovations office and I was
like, oh, this is so crazy, andhe used to be a minister in
mining.

(25:09):
So I ended up meeting him and Iwas just like telling him about
everything and he was like, wow, okay, yeah, this is great, I
can see the need for it.
And, yeah, he was like itsounds a bit like something
happiness, happiness and co isdoing.
I was like who's happiness andco?
I didn't know who happiness andco were and um, anyways, he was

(25:34):
like, oh, I'd be really happyto help you and to discuss this
with you further and stuff likethis, and got into the car.
I started traveling more and um,then I was trying to get
through to this man who helpspeople within the financial
literacy space for the last 35years and we finally made it to

(25:54):
Broome and I was standing onCable Beach and he called me
back and he was like sorry,hazel, I was on holidays for X
amount of time and I'm justgiving you a call back now I'm
still away.
I'm on Cable Beach at theminute.
And I was like no way, I'm onCable Beach at the minute, like
right now.
And he was like what are thechances of this?

(26:19):
And I ended up going for dinnerwith himself, his wife, me and
my friend jerome, who washelping me this entire time with
enjoy your mind.
But it wasn't actually calledenjoy your mind at this time.
It was like the road torecovery and that's another
story, but it was just yeah, Icouldn't find the correct name

(26:40):
at this time um, but funnilyenough, around this month, um or
weeks, bhb opened up aninnovation challenge for how to
uplift and create a better senseof community within the mining
industry.
And I was like this is such acoincidence, like I need to like
, really, yeah, present thiscompany the best way that I can.

(27:03):
But how am I going to do it?
It doesn't even have a name yet, you know.
And I went for a walk with myfriends and I was like I want to
call it arrive as you are,authentic as you are, because I
want the workers to be able tojust arrive on site
authentically as they are, andto be guided by a wide range of
professionals.
And I was like, yeah, I want itto be called AYA, because

(27:25):
that's A-A-Y-A Arrive as you are, authentic as you are.
And my friend was like, whatabout?
Enjoy your mind?
And I was like, yeah, he waslike a better mind for a better
mind.
And I was like, yeah, that'spretty cool.
And then one of the girls endedup laughing at him and saying
it was a bad name and I was likeI actually really like it, so

(27:48):
let's call it that.
And we just kind of called itthat and, um, I asked him that
day would he be the co-founder,because he's just put so much
into it with me and he's helpedme so much and he accepted and
um, yeah then, um, yeah, weentered the innovation challenge

(28:09):
together and we were working inthe library almost every day
together.
Uh, I would never really go outdrinking with everyone.
I was kind of in the rooftoptent most of the time just
working on Enjoy your Mind,doing coaching calls with some
of the facilitators who havebeen in business for a long time
and they were really reallyhelpful, as well as my own
cousin, mark.

(28:29):
He's globally one of the mostskillful and qualified wellbeing
psychologists in the worldBecause globally, yeah, and he
was just helping me a lot and hewas like like I just love how
spiritually connected you areand how much your heart is open
and you know how all of theseopportunities are coming in at
the right time.

(28:49):
I was like, yeah, this is great, and my heart truly, truly
opened as well.
When I was in Exmouth and I wasswimming next to a whale shark
and I was like this is what lifeis about is to really see what
God has created, things thatwe've never really opened up our
eyes to before.
Like, if you look into eachanimal or anything that's living

(29:12):
, soul or eyes, whatever you canreally see like the almost
incredible creation that God hasmade.
And you know, it does say thatGod has created us all in his
image.
And I think that's kind ofwhere my self-worth and my
self-image started to improve,just kind of acknowledging the

(29:33):
creativity that God had andcreating everything around us
today.
Creating everything around ustoday, including ourselves.
So, yeah, my heart was open.
I ended up meeting, um, a man.
He was an aboriginal man andcame out with the most artistic
hat you will ever find bigfeather on it.
And uh, yeah, he was like Iwant to welcome you and your

(29:58):
friends out to my country, myland.
You can stay with us, we canpick fresh oysters off the rocks
, the boys can go spearfishing,we can take a boat to the place
where I was actually born, alljust because I told him he had a
nice hat.
So we did that.
We all went together.
There was a big convoy of usthere were like four cars at the

(30:18):
time, way of us, or like fourcars at the time and um, yeah,
then we ended up just uh, goingout with him and his nephew and
it just felt like something, soI don't know, so profound, like
spiritually to be able to learnmore about their culture and how

(30:39):
welcoming they were, how givingthey were to, just sharing,
without any kind of fear aroundtheir skills and knowledge being
kind of taken and given tosomeone else A lot of time.
In Western society, you'll seethat, especially in business,
people are very fearful ofsharing certain things because
they think, think, yeah, thatsomething's being taken away

(31:02):
from them, but whereas what theysee it as this is what life's
about.
It's about sharing.
It's about, um, yeah, expandingyour knowledge that you were
given to, yeah, give it tosomeone else.
Definitely worded that wrong,but yeah, so we um picked the
oysters fresh off the rocks.
And then Bruce Wiggin, theAboriginal man.

(31:23):
He started to share storieswith us as a group and it just
all felt so like familiar in away that I have never really
felt before, and I felt soconnected to everything he was
saying.
And I felt so connected toeverything he was saying.
I'm still seeing the starseverywhere and, yeah, I just

(31:46):
knew there was something really,really special about this time
and, yeah, I just felt veryconnected.
They did a welcome ceremony forus.
Yeah, it was just absolutelybeautiful.
It was an authentic experience.
It wasn't like a tour that wepaid for.
It was just absolutelybeautiful.
Uh, it was a authenticexperience.
It wasn't like a tour like wepaid for.
It was just something thathappened magically for a reason.

(32:07):
Um, and yeah, prior to this Iactually forgot to mention, we
ended up at a petrol station.
I was getting tired of being ina share car.
Uh, I just needed my own spaceand my friend was, like they're
selling a car here.
It was a Mitsubishi Pajero,massive, had rooftop tents, had

(32:27):
like showers, had like loads offridges, everything, and it went
from like 10 grand seven grand.
Then they brought it down to 6kfor me.
Uh, so I ended up having myincredible Mitsubishi Pajero for
like six grand and it was likemy, my utmost love car I've ever
had.
So, yeah, that's what I wastraveling in on the way up and I

(32:52):
ended up really taking aninterest in indigenous culture
after this experience.
And that's when I decided toopen up a book that had been in
my bag for like over two years.
I just never opened it.
I picked it off the shelf oneday when I was bored and then it
was the traditional loremethods for well-being and it's

(33:15):
called the Dreaming Path by PaulCallaghan and I knew that the
missing piece to enjoy your mindlaid within this book that it
was all too very corporate atthe time.
You know, just financialliteracy, relationships,
vitality and, yeah, somethinglike different games.
That's how it kind of startedoff.
There was no culturalengagement or spiritual, soulful

(33:38):
kind of sense to it at thattime.
It was just all about healingand recovery.
And then I knew that I needed toread every part of this book
before I submitted theInnovation Challenge to BHP.
So I ended up reading it maybefor two days.
I was in my car.
I only got out of my car to eatand Jerome kept on checking on

(34:00):
me.
He was like you need to get outand like, do something, like
because, yeah, but I knew thatthe answer is later there.
So I started highlightingthings, getting messages, and I
really understood veryincredible stories.
So the traditional lore methodstates in order for me to be
well, that you need to be well.

(34:20):
So that means that we need totake care of one another and in
order to achieve, like,universal well-being.
And there's one specific storythat uncle Paul Gordon shares
within the book and it justshows that the aboriginal people
are so heavily connected totheir lands and um about energy

(34:43):
as well.
And this these elders withinthe land had spotted one man who
had negative energy around him,a negative energy in a lot like
depression, anxiety or stressand they took him off and they
had helped him throughstorytelling and giving him like
individual care and a sense ofcommunity to get him out of this

(35:04):
negative energy into positiveenergy so he could go back and
reconnect to that experiencestress, depression and anxiety,
a third of which is actually aclinical cutoff.
This is the amount of care thatwe should be giving to each

(35:26):
individual and that's what Iwant to provide.
Within enjoy your mind safespace, that's like.
Our biggest mission is tocreate safe spaces on the minds,
for these workers to cometogether, to be guided, to feel
like they can speak offauthentically about anything
they're going through and thenhave that professional guidance
going forward, as well asforging lasting connections and

(35:49):
sense of community, becausecommunity is literally the
recipe for resilience and um,yeah, so I guess that was kind
of the final aha moment for mewith Enjoy your Mine.
So I sent it off to BHP and wegot accepted as a solution to
uplift the mining industry and Iwas just like in absolute

(36:11):
disbelief, like I couldn'tbelieve it and then I want to
quickly pause you, hazel, juston that.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
I just wanted to mention if you can explain to
the listeners who bhp is,because not everyone's going to
know, like how ginormous that is.
Um, in terms of if you want todescribe who bhp are and the,
yeah, the, I guess the likegigantic kind of win I suppose
that was to be able to beinvolved with them yeah, so bhp

(36:40):
is, um, I think it's the secondbiggest mining company in the
world.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
I'm pretty sure glencore may be first um.
But yeah, it's, it's huge, it'sinternational, it's, uh, in the
states, it's in south americaand it's in austral, canada and,
yeah, they're all over WesternAustralia as well, especially,
and that's a company that Iactually used to work for in WA

(37:09):
and I had a great time workingfor them as well.
But this was just so profoundthat it was the company that I
had my injury on the company,that I had my injury on the
company, that I had the idea onthe company that I was really
passionate about building.
Enjoy your mind for, becausethat's where the vision was kind
of created, along with havingmy experience over in New South

(37:32):
Wales as well, and so it wasjust so, yeah, incredible.
And the only problem was isthat I wasn't a registered
company, so I couldn't get theprocurement contract, which was
the winning prize one of thewinning prizes so got recognized
as a solution, but then didn'tget the contract.

(37:52):
But within this time, I hadreached out to the author of the
book that I had read so heavilyand, funnily enough, he was
coming to Darwin just for oneday, the day that I arrived into
Darwin and I was like what isgoing on?
And so, yeah, was talking tohim on LinkedIn.

(38:14):
We managed to find a place andtime to meet up.
He told me incredible things.
He actually has family fromIreland as well and again, I
felt like I have known him myentire life, from a life I don't
know how many times ago and hetold and shared so many stories

(38:35):
and spiritually, as well asbeing an ex-VIPO worker himself
and I was like this just can'tbe real.
Like what is going on?
You know, it was just so, sobeautiful.
And yeah, then he became one ofthe facilitators for Enjoy your
Mind and, yeah, he's anincredible man and he shares

(38:55):
things, just without expectinganything in return.
I just said, can I quote you onthis?
Yes, of course, like this iswhat this book is for is to help
people to be more aware of, uh,what, yeah, what knowledge we
have and how we see well-beingwithin our communities.
And it's like, yeah, this isincredible.

(39:17):
And yeah, I just really sawthis as a massive purpose in my
life.
And I had to fly back to WA and, unfortunately, me and Jerome
we had, yeah, something came upwhere I let fear take over.

(39:40):
I choose fear over love and andthat kind of broke down, this
uh, incredible friendship thatwe had, or relationship we're
friends now but it just neverwill be the same and for making
that choice at the time, and Iwas so heavily heartbroken at
myself for choosing fear overlove.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
And this one, I think , is quite rare for you, right,
like that's, because I'm justlistening to you and I'm just
thinking as you're talking andit's you know, I just think
you're such an incredibleexample of how, when you really
tap into your heart and yourintuition and you kind of build
something from just like thatplace, just how like there's

(40:27):
just so much alignment and somuch opens up because of the way
that you run things and dothings, and it's just been built
from that heart space, right,which I think, yeah, I don't
know like I've kind of jumped in, but I think it's important to
say, I think that it's.
It's kind of how I've, you know, built sober chapters and like

(40:48):
we've done it in that kind of.
It's different, isn't it?
It's like we're not, we're notlike go, go, go.
It's just like we're open,we're receiving, we're following
, we're trusting.
All these incredible things arejust coming to us and we're just
like ebbing and flowing withthat.
And it is like constantly, yes,we get fear sometimes, but
we're able to bring ourselvesback to our heart to be able to

(41:10):
continue on that journey.
And I think that when anythingis done from that place, from a
place of love rather than withinthat kind of more fear-based
ego state like it can't not, itcan't not evolve and yeah, just
become what these, both thesebusinesses have become.
But sorry, I interrupted you,so you're fine oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Yeah, it's so true.
It's like I let my past takeover my future, because I was.
The fear came from pastexperiences and then I made a
choice to live in my past ratherthan go forward and embrace the
uncertainty, and just havefaith and to choose love.

(41:54):
It was just a crossroad that Inever really felt myself at
before and, yeah, I was solovely heartbroken.
Um, I guess I missed oneimportant piece just prior.
To that was, uh, when I wantedto register as a business before
I decided to go back to Perth,I tried to do it in the

(42:14):
Kimberley.
Funny enough, my middle name.
I was born as Kimberly, so Inever responded to that name.
Um, yeah, I, they kept callingme Kimberly on my like baby
cards were Kimberly, especiallyfrom one auntie that really
sticks out to me.
And then my dad's aunt waspassing away in hospital and

(42:37):
they brought me in as a baby andshe said what did you call her?
And they said we call herKimberly, but she's not
responding to her name.
And and then they were like shesaid to them call her Hazel.
And they were like, okay, andthen she passed away and and
that was just like an incrediblestory to hear, because whilst I

(42:59):
was traveling with Kimberly,this is all happening like so
incredible.
And I always since I was in theeast when all of those kind of
bad signs were coming into mylife with that relationship I
was in at the time I had such acall towards WA to do that ghost

(43:19):
trip and I couldn't understandwhy, because I never heard of
Western Australia really before.
So I just believe that it'sdestiny and this is something
that Jerome spoke heavily aboutthat his granddad would talk
about and it just all was sobeautifully created.
I don't know how to say it, butyeah, and when I tried to

(43:39):
register the company up in theKimberley through the small
business association the womanwho I dealt with she had a North
Star tattoo on her arm and Iwas like nobody has this tattoo.
So I automatically trusted herand she gave me a lot of
guidance and coaching as well.
But, like I say, you follow thesigns but you also have to use

(44:01):
your intuition for what's quiteto do because, um, she could
have put me into a lot of debtbecause I was so naive.
Uh, she gave a price, she toldme to apply for a grant.
That was a lot of money and Iknew I wasn't going to get, and
then she billed me with thathigh cost, which no business

(44:22):
coach ever charges up front forone day, and I knew within me
and my intuition not to signthat contract and luckily I
didn't.
I paid her, um, a good amountanyways, and she helped me with
stuff that I needed, likebrainstorming and stuff.
But, yeah, you do have to belike cautious and like use your
intuition.

(44:43):
Yeah, these things are given toyou because, yeah, you can lead
in kind of like a dangerouspath and situation as well if
you're kind of mindlessly goingwith them.
Um, yeah, yeah, yeah that's.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
That's.
That is a huge point, a reallygood point to bring up.
Actually, I think that'ssomething to delve into because
I'm sure there's peoplelistening that you know, because
a lot of this is talking aboutlike the signs and how we built
our businesses and you know,kind of all that guidance and
everything, and, as people know,like I get a huge amount of
that myself and for me it's kindof like holding it loosely.

(45:24):
So it's kind of like that's theconfirmation that you know in my
heart space I'm in alignment,that things are happening.
And, yeah, just likeconfirmation of like people
looking out for me, like whetherit's guides, angels, god, like
whatever it might be, and butnever to make a decision based
on that.
It's almost better when theconfirmation happens after

(45:45):
you've made a decision typething, because you do need to
keep tuning into your intuitionand that feeling and that's
that's so, so important.
To do that definitely.
I just I just want to ask you,hazel as well, because there'll
be people listening probablythat maybe don't see these signs
in the same way, um, and youknow how, how you think people

(46:09):
might be able to, to do that, tostart seeing more like what
might open people up.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
I'm so glad you asked me that question because I
actually, yeah, I believe I havethe answer to that question and
that is the same as what thatman had given me on the beach,
or tried to give me that on thebeach that day and just ask and
you shall receive, like, ask fora sign, and then you will see

(46:37):
the signs and make and toactually know if it's a sign or
not.
Because there's also thatyellow card theory where, like
subconsciously, you're going tokeep on seeing the same thing
over and over again, like if yousee one yellow card, you're
going to continuously see it.
But a sign sticks out, like itactually speaks to the soul.
It's like so, so there, it's sostrong, like it's like no other

(46:58):
, like it brings you that momentof like.
I need to look this up andfigure out what it is.
I need to tune in and see whatit means to me, but not
attaching that story to it, likeyou said.
And yeah, times, um so yeah,like even how we met, um, so
incredible.
But yeah, I would say, ask andyou shall receive.

(47:21):
Just ask for the signs, um, butalso your intuition if, whether
or not, because, yeah, like Isaid, you have to use your sense
, because you'll be tested onthat, a lot like whether or not
you have the self-worth tobelieve yourself over, maybe, um

(47:41):
, a subconscious sign that maywant you to make that decision,
but in reality, it's kind ofneglecting your self-worth, like
you are your strongestsuperhero, your intuition is
your biggest superhero and thesigns are there, like you said,
for guidance, confirmation aswell, but you are much more
powerful than the science, likebecause it's coming from you.
But, yeah, and things externalare incredible because they

(48:07):
guide you continuously and youknow it's your loved ones around
you.
Well, this is what I believeit's your loved ones around you
that you've lost and but, yeah,nobody knows your mission, your
soul's purpose, more than you dointuitively.
So, yeah, that.
So yeah, I would say yeahbeautiful.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
Thank you, yeah, on on that, I think.
Um, I think one of the thingsthat I like like rings true for
me is kind of believing to seerather than seeing to believe
and just generally being openand I talk.

(48:44):
I mean, we've talked a lotabout being in the heart space.
I know for sure from my ownexperience when I used to be,
you know, the stillness thatwe've talked about, when I used
to be still in my heart, in myfeminine, in flow.
That's when I would see a lotmore stuff and I think then it's
really important also, when youmake decisions, to always do it

(49:07):
from that place.
I was actually only talkingyesterday to some amazing guys I
met here in in Los Angeles.
It was beautiful, like talkingabout community, like we were
all there just chatting, allvery like-minded, talking all
about these things.
Um, I can't remember remind mewhat I was just saying then,
because I've just lost trackcompletely about the

(49:30):
conversation you were having acouple of days with them.
Yeah, like a couple of days agoabout the signs and oh yeah,
that's right.
So just always making um,making the decision, the
decision to do something andtake action when you're in that
heart-based, love-based state.
So when you get like a downloador a feeling that you want to

(49:53):
do something, intuitively bookit in for the future from that
place, because then, like, ifyou do end up going into like
more of a fear-based state, likeyou've already got it booked in
and locked in and you know thatit was done from that place,
that it needed to be done fromlike the guidance and the
intuition and everything, andlike that's how I think as well,
we've continued to build thesepaths with our businesses by

(50:15):
doing it from that place,because I think we've both had
like a lot of fear and ego comein to try and like sabotage our
paths, haven't we?
and it's like if we know it's somuch of it and I think if we
know that we've moved forwardsfrom that more love-based state
and heart-based state, thenthat's the confidence to you

(50:37):
know, just not fall into thefear and keep moving forwards.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
So yeah, I just thought it was important to
mention that as well, because Ifeel like that's how we both
built these situations and thesebusinesses definitely, yeah,
like you said, like outwittingthe devil, like to read this
book or new level, new devil,and yeah, this self-sabotage and
behavior, and in reality, it'slike two parts of you that want

(51:04):
the same outcome, but one ofthem's coming from a fear base
and one of them's coming from alove base.
So it's like internal conflictcontinuously to get you to the
same destination, internalconflict continuously to get you
to the same destination, and so, yeah, I think it's, and that
is just to keep you safe, isn'tit?
And and to also to be yourhighest good or highest self.

(51:25):
Yeah, it's, yeah, it's surelyincredible, like what's possible
out there once you just remainopen and um, yeah, just um, you
remain open from a place of loveand yeah, yeah yeah, I guess
what really stood out for me wasafter I decided to take the

(51:46):
flight and to well, I was solucky because I met a mechanic,
an older man, who just happenedto have all the right materials
for me to do up my car andreally just like sell it for
almost probably double theamount I bought it for and then
I was able to like, really liketake off with enjoy your mind as

(52:10):
well my savings when I cameback to Perth.
But I remember finding myselfin my hands and knees in like a
time of so much desperation andI found myself in that place a
good few times before and but Iwent from spending every day
with the community a group ofpeople like 12 or more people
around me hugs, love, likelaughter, dancing and to being

(52:36):
completely isolated, being alone, working on everything by
myself, not having that personto bounce everything off and to
support me, and, yeah, just kindof saying what's the point of
this?
Like I can't do this by myself.
I was on my hands and knees andthat's where I met God that day
and I was like my whole lifejust kind of changed and I met

(52:57):
more right people at the righttime.
But it was a really hard periodof my life and I realized how
important community is for eachand every one of us and how
companies do provide community.
That's kind of what you'rebuying into as well and that's
an incredible investment into aswell and that's an incredible

(53:21):
investment.
So, um, yeah, I believe as wellthat you know I was told this
reminds me of um happiness andco and I didn't know what they
were.
And then I was doing my firstexhibition for enjoy your mind
in birth convention center andum, there was a public speaker
there and it was julian fromhappiness co and um my friend
emily, really, like she was, sheso inspired by him and I was
like, oh, my god, that's the guythey were, that's the company

(53:42):
they were talking about, and Iheard him speak for the first
time and um, he obviously runs acompany that's heavily around
suicide prevention and umpreemptive mental health
solutions for corporate spaces.
And I was so curious because Inever heard anyone speak about
suicide before the way that hedid and I was like my life, like

(54:07):
at 16, was heavily around thatand my journey from each country
to the next was heavily aroundthat but never really spoken up,
and the way he spoke about itso openly.
I was like super, super curiousto find out more about this
organization and I met you at ahappiness co events, like it's
just so yeah, so yeah, led me toyou, led me to them, and I

(54:33):
really was able to like God,someone who definitely saved me
in that time of desperation.
But the likes of these mentalhealth corporations that build
education and awarenesscomplemented all of that to kind
of keep me to where to be heretoday.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
And, um, yeah, I just knew that things were truly,
truly different, different thanthey ever happened before being

(55:16):
around people that believe inyour dreams and that can lift
you up and support you and helpyou go from that fear-based
state to that love-based stateis so, so important.
And you know, with that beingsaid, you know, sometimes, like
I don't know, you're, you'realways cheering me on and and
vice versa, and it's, it's sobeautiful.
And you know, sometimes it canbe really hard when you're
trying to do things differently.
And I know we haven't reallytouched on being alcohol free,

(55:38):
even though this is about beingalcohol free.
We'll probably do a part, apart two or what have you, but I
guess it's all related from thepoint of view that you just
need to be around like-mindedpeople that want to lift you up
and cheer you on and support you, um, as well as inspire you
grow.
You tell you the truth, tellyou like hard truth sometimes as

(55:59):
well, and I don't know likeI've always had this fear of
like, I don't know, maybe likeshining too brightly, or you
know, there's a thing calledtall poppy syndrome in Australia
and I think it's deep-rooted inme from some family dynamics as
well, and I think that a lot ofpeople suffer with this when
they're trying to buildsomething or do something
different, and one of the quotesthat Hazel sent me when we were

(56:23):
like backwards and forwardschatting is I've been in LA and
she's been in my home inAustralia and we've been like
filling each other in on theselike beautiful, amazing things
that have been happening.
We've both been making so muchprogress in our businesses over
the last like few months inparticular.
And she sent me this and it'sjust so true.
It says you've got to hangaround winners so that your wins
don't sound like you'rebragging, and it's just so

(56:44):
important to have people thatyou can speak to about your own
personal wins and not feel likeyou have to dim your light and
hide them, because it's justit's, it's the way you're going
to keep moving forwards and keepgrowing and keep bringing these
beautiful, like purpose-drivenbusinesses in the world, because
you know that we all have likethese unique gifts that we've

(57:05):
been given by God and so manypeople are just too scared to
bring them into the world and tobring that light into the world
, and you know it's just so.
It's so important for everyoneto be able to use their use,
their pain and bring it intopurpose and, you know, go
against anything that's holdingthem back, and so I think, yeah,

(57:26):
that's, that's something hugethat I just wanted to share.
I think that ties in with thewhole like love, connection,
community, finding your people,and what I will say on the
alcohol-free thing actually isthat you know people that are
alcohol-free and feeling a bitlonely or feeling like they
haven't found their tribe yet.
Absolutely promise you like itwill happen and like, with any

(57:47):
transformation you're goingthrough, it will happen.
You will attract in the rightpeople, you will attract in your
tribe and you know it's yeah,it's, it's definitely a thing.
I see it happening all the timeand obviously I've experienced
it for myself, and this speciallady is a very fine example of
that as well.
Um, should we quickly touch?

(58:10):
So it's.
We're about an hour into thepodcast already.
I've actually been told becauseI'm in this studio.
I've never done.
Told because I'm in this studio, I've never done it in the
studio before.
This is really exciting, butthey've just told me that my
time is up.
I can carry on.
However, um, should we justquickly touch on your alcohol
free?
yeah, just maybe like explainkind of how that came up for you
and you know how you felt andhow that's helped you recently

(58:36):
in that time too definitely yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
So, um, mine wasn't so much about, you know, uh,
connecting to myself at the time.
My choice for becoming alcoholfree was due to the amount of
inflammation that I was havingin my body around the time that
my back had a massive relapseand, um, I have something called
syringohydromedia.
It's like a very rare spinalcord um injury.

(59:01):
That happened whilst I was inthe mining uh industry and I was
having a fibroclamia and I cannever say it right, but it's
just chronic pain all over thebody and miscommunication
between my brain and my, um, mylegs and I was off the road for
a while.
I was vomiting with pain.
I was having so many issues and, um, yeah, I was just, I don't

(59:25):
know why I felt like I was umdying.
To be honest, it's a horriblefeeling for a very horrible time
, and I decided to just removealcohol, um, even though I
wasn't heavily consuming alcoholanyways, but my family were
over from Ireland and it wasaround Christmas time and I just
knew that it wasn't giving meany like positive outcomes
within my body.

(59:46):
Um, once I stopped, uh drinking, I I didn't think that what
happened.
What happened like I didn'tthink that what happened, what
happened?
I didn't think I would stay offit for this long and also I
never knew that I would neveractually want to drink alcohol
again.
I think that now going out withmy friends dancing without

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alcohol is absolutely fine forme, having chats without alcohol
is absolutely fine for me aswell, and being able to drive
myself home and to wake up andstill get up early and have a
good day.
I realize that now, like settingup a business as well as, like
all of this personal development.
You know working, grindingeverything else.
I don't have time to be hungover like at all, and I see

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alcohol as, like you know,everything you put your money in
is an investment.
So I decided I didn't want toinvest in alcohol anymore.
I wanted to invest in otherthings, like my business or
community or fitness.
So it's really about likethinking you know, what is this
investment bringing you?
Like it can also bring youaround your friends.

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You know celebration have agood time, which is really
incredible, but what else couldyou use it on?
Like could you use your moneyon, you know, going into
programs such as yeah, so we'rechapters meeting these
like-minded people and you know,finding a community, because
community does come at a cost,like regardless, regardless if
it's out with your, yourcommunity of friends, you're out

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spending money drinking,whether it's investing in a
program, you're spending it inthat program.
You get that community.
Um, if you go to a church, youdo donations, but you're still
in a community.
So it's about kind of umcarefully seeing where you're
investing and if it aligns towhere you want to be, um, as
well as just like removingsomething from your life for a

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little while, even if it's justa chapter, so that it can bring
you towards things that youmight not have had time for
before because you wereprioritizing.
You know, having a few drinkswith your friend on the weekend,
but now you want to prioritizefinally going after that goal
that's been in the back of yourmind or or dream that's been
back to mind for a decade, likeso yeah, it's had a huge impact

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on me mentally, especially likeafter, you know, just having a
night out with friends or justhow I've been able to spend my
Saturday nights studying orcooking I don't really know how
to cook properly, but now I'mkind of like a lot better and
just like little things that Ijust kind of always left behind,

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as well as meeting like-mindedpeople like yourself and to be
able to have a connection withthose people and to be able to
grow with those people, becauseyou're spending time elsewhere.
And yeah, I also have a bigbackground story on over
consuming alcohol.
The amount of dangeroussituations that I have been in

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because I've been paralytic,drunk, is so scary and if I ever
have a daughter, I just hopethat times will have changed and
I believe they will that thatlifestyle isn't a common thing,
as it's a very common thing inIreland, and I grew up, now
being the age of 28, feelinglike I neglected myself, like

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neglected my body, and I carrieda lot of shame around that
because I just left myselfcompletely out of state of mind
for anything to happen to me.
And things did happen to me andyou know, I'm someone's
daughter, I'm someone's baby,and this is kind of what can
happen and it's really dangerousand it's yeah, it's it's really
sad as well.

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So, um, I guess it's given me alot of awareness and, um, a lot
of time to heal as well.
That time in my life, um, as Iwas very young and have been
overly exposed to, you know,life and death situations and
you're, you're the same, and Ithink it's just so, yeah,

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incredible how similar some ofour stories are.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
But, yeah, it's not normal like everyone like
normalizes it but it's notnormal for a teenage girl as
young as, like, age 13, to be onthe side of the pathway,
paralytic, drunk, vomiting, andshe literally it's wild yeah, I
think we fall into thinking thatit is, and it's kind of like,
the more that you, the more timeyou have away from being, um, a

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drinker, and you get to lookback at those years and, like
those teen years and the 20s,like it felt normal.
It seemed normal especially inthe Irish and English cultures
that we got caught up in, butit's wild, like I look at it now
and I'm like I mean talkingabout trauma, which is a big
thing that I now do work with.
You know little teas as well asyou know bigger stuff, but we

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gave ourselves traumas throughdrinking, like the amount of
like situations that we wouldhave got ourselves into, like
the next day, and like theself-loathing and the shame and
like all of those things likeit's, it's huge.
And I think that you go on thishuge healing journey and
reflect on all of that andrealize, kind of what you put

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yourself through.
It's, it's, yeah, it's, it's,yeah, it is, it's scary, it's
really scary.
And I think that the youth oftoday is slowly changing and I
think it's amazing that there'sso many incredible people going
alcohol free and flying thatflag and showing that you can
have just the most incrediblelife without it.
And I don't know.

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It's funny because, like, Ialways see people, like
sometimes, when they'reresistant, say, well, I'm only a
social drinker, but it's evenat that level, like, well, what
could you do if you actuallyweren't a social drinker?
Like, what could, what couldyou really do with your life
without alcohol?
Because it's definitely notgoing to be helping or aiding or
enhancing you in any way.

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And, yeah, I think people arereally, really waking up to it
now, which is amazing, I think,for you and I, because we're,
like you know, we've done areally long podcast now and I
feel like we haven't evenscratched the surface with the
things that we can talk about,particularly in this
alcohol-free space.
I think it's lovely for thelisteners to get a good overview

(01:05:59):
of you and like all theincredibly special things that
you're doing, like I know youcan all, I'm sure you can all
hear like how just this woman isjust so special, so full love,
just such on a mission to changethe world for the better, and
it's so, so inspiring to be inher presence and I'm so lucky to

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be able to call her one of myclosest, closest friends.
And I just want to add thisthis lady is only 28 years old
and we are all, all of us thatare close to her in Australia
are just like do not forget uswhen you are literally changing
the lives of millions, becausegoodness knows what is going to

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happen.
This woman is just, yeah, goingto be.
You heard her here on my podcastwhich we're always going to
have, because one day, you know,I'm just saying Hazel Duffy,
have, because one day, you know,hazel Duffy, she is, she is
just special and she's beenbrought to this world to do

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incredible, incredible,incredible things.
And look, we will do anotherepisode.
Um, is there anything on yourheart, angel?
Um, hazel angel, is thereanything on your heart right now
that you'd like to finish?

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
um, yeah, I mean, like I'm so proud of you.
Like I said at the beginning, Iwas in tears, but like I just
can't believe.
It's so surreal and I know thatwe're gonna have plenty of more
, plenty more discussions, andthat we'll be able to share with
these incredible listeners ontheir journey as well.
And, yeah, I'm just so proud.
I just can't wait to see whereit all goes and, uh, continue to

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watch your journey as well.
It's an absolute honor to be apart of that and I can't wait to
share how we met and everythingelse I know, I know we're gonna
have, I reckon we just do it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
We'll do it next time .

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
We'll do it next time .

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
There's so much, so much to share, so many more
synchronicities and beautifulthings that have happened, and
you know we'll do it next time.
There's so much, so much toshare, so many more
synchronicities and beautifulthings that have happened, and
you know we'll be able to.
I think.
I think we'll continue and, tobe honest, I think hazel and I
will will likely be doing thingsin the alcohol-free space
together.
I have a strong feeling aboutthat for our future, and we're
already looking at um.
Well, we're doing things inamerica, australia and europe

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together, so I think there'slots, lots to come, but thank
you so much for coming on hereand where can people follow the
business or learn more aboutEnjoy your Mind or learn more
about you?

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
Oh, great question.
So, yeah, you can follow me onInstagram on Enjoy your Mind.
Yeah, if you are in the miningspace, you can add me on
linkedin.
Just my name, hazel doffy, and.
And, yeah, my instagram handleis just my my first name, hazel
doffy as well, but I have a fewexciting things coming up.
So, uh, yeah, I would reallyappreciate a follow and, um,

(01:08:47):
yeah, thank you so much forhaving me.
I can't wait to see you soonthank you, darling.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
I will see you when I get back home.
Thanks for looking after thehouse and billy for me yeah, bye
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