January 14, 2025 • 32 mins
In this episode, we’re diving into two life-changing attributes of God: His love and mercy. What does it mean that God doesn’t just show love but is love? And how can we rest in His mercies that are new every morning?
Join us as we unpack these truths, share key Scriptures like 1 John 4:8 and Lamentations 3:22-23, and explore how they shape our faith and daily lives. Plus, don’t miss our fun side chat about ginger tea, Georgia snow days, and the coffee vs. tea debate!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Sojo Show with Jen and AJ, where
you'll dig deep into God's Wordalongside two imperfect,
frequently ineloquent women, aswe discover fresh ways to walk
out God's truth together.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Well, good morning everybody.
Here I am saying morning andit's morning for us, it may not
be morning.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I did that last time.
It may not be morning.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
It just feels so natural to say, when it's like
crack of dawn, I know?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Do you know that right now, where I am, it's
supposed to be snowing?
In Georgia it's supposed to besnowing.
That's crazy.
I know we um that kids are outof school for snow and I'm
looking outside and you're justwaiting for it.
I'm just watching.
It's not even below freezing,it's like 36 degrees or
something, so it's not gonnasnow, so it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
But hey, who knows, who knows?
I mean, we have some crazyweather right now, so who knows?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
listen to me.
I'm disappointed.
Most of y'all listening areprobably like get the snow out
of here.
It's like snow, I know.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I'm so sorry.
Well, the first thing thatpopped in my head when you said
that was wow, you sound like apet waiting for their person to
come home.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I know, it's kind of like you know I live in the
South, it doesn't ever snow here.
It's kind of like you know Ilive in the South, it doesn't
ever snow here, and when it doessnow it is a big inconvenience
because everything shuts down,but it doesn't last more than
about one day and then we'reback to normal.
So it's kind of a novelty forme where I know that some of you
are living in areas where it'sa real pain.
(01:39):
So I apologize.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I know.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Like there's some total eye rolls going on right
now.
I'm being so insensitive.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Okay, well, hey, along those lines I see you are.
So people can't see what I'mseeing.
Jen just took a drink ofsomething and I felt the total
win, because you have to tellthem what it is you're drinking,
because you have to tell themwhat it is, you're drinking,
(02:14):
okay.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
So I've gotten a new obsession, okay, a new passion,
and if you know AJ and I at all,you know that there is a
running battle between coffeeand tea.
Yeah, like for years For yearsand I am still very pro coffee.
I still drink coffee everymorning, but in the evenings and
some mornings I have gotteninto drinking ginger tea.
(02:34):
You know what?
I'm calling it ginger tea, butI don't think it's really ginger
tea.
I just have to stop and sayreally quickly, you're making
yourself sound like a very oldperson.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
It's a new fit sister , what do you mean?
An old person?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
No, that just sounds like something a very old person
would say Well, if it bansanything, I got hooked on it
from a very young person who, oh, okay, that helps, it's a hip
and cool thing to do, becauseI'm really really hip and cool,
because so when I was recoveringfrom my surgery last month, so
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people were bringing me meals,so so sweet, loved it.
And this one young she was,she's younger than me, I mean
she's in I don't know how she is, I don't want to say, but she's
30, maybe early thirties.
Anyway, it doesn't matter,she's young for me.
And she, when she brought hermeal, she brought me this like
jug of like it looked like itlooked like, you know, dishwater
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, and I was like what is this?
She says, okay, this is whatI've been doing every night.
It's ginger tea and I had it andI became obsessed and I've had
it every day since.
So it is just water on the pot,on a pot on the stove, with
fresh ginger root in it.
That's all it is.
I love that.
It's taken me a long time tofigure out how to do it right so
(04:01):
that you get that nice burngoing down.
I can really taste it and, yeah, I love it.
It's supposed to beanti-inflammatory.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah Well, ginger is really good for you.
I learned that when we wereliving overseas.
That's what.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
I hear.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Like, yeah, it's a great fixer of all the things.
It's not really tea.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
There's not like tea tea like tea leaves and whatever
tea actually is which I reallydon't know because I'm not a tea
person but like it's no actualtea, it's just water and ginger
root, but I'm calling it myginger tea and I'm feeling super
like old slash.
Cool matter of fact, brad camein.
(04:45):
My husband came in the othernight and I was just sitting by
the.
I just sit there and wait forit to boil, right, you just
watch pot and he's like what areyou doing every night?
What is this on the stove everyday?
Like my ginger, you know.
And he's like happening rightnow.
So he thinks I'm old baby,that's okay, that means he's an
(05:06):
old man.
Anyway, I told him, he told meabout it and he's like oh okay,
she's really young and hip andcool and healthy and all the
things.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
So yeah, that, that matters it does matter be sure
to include that part of thestory if you're listening.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Thank you, chelsea.
Anyway, that that well, that'ssomething to share, that's
that's good.
So if you guys go out and try,if you're listening, thank you,
chelsea, anyway, well, that'ssomething to share, that's good.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
So if you guys go out and try this this week, you'll
have to let us know, Drop us anote in our inbox and tell us
that you are loving the tea.
Yes, the actual tea.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
All right, so that's it.
That's way more than you wantedto know about something new
that I'm loving.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yes, you took the sip and I thought interesting.
Okay, Cause a little birdietold me earlier this week that
you were enjoying something new.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
So yeah, yeah, so I've gone over to the dark side.
So AJ does drink a teeny bit ofcoffee every once in a while,
and I have become ginger rootwater obsessed.
Okay, well, there, you have itAll.
Right, that's.
I think that's enoughdiscussion about coffee and tea.
What are we talking about today?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Well, yes, it is definitely enough, but if you're
still with us, it's worth thewait, because we're talking
about God's character this monthin Sojo Academy, and our topic
for today is on something wecould not live without, an
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aspect of his nature thatwithout this, we wouldn't even
be alive.
He'd just wipe us all off theface of the earth.
So we're talking about hismercy and compassion.
Is that right?
Did I get it right?
I actually probably should have.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Love and mercy.
Yes, love, well, they're twodifferent things but they're
very connected.
So, so right, god's love whichis really a misnomer because
it's not that God has love Goddoesn't show love, god doesn't
exhibit love.
God literally is love, which Ithink is a whole conversation
(07:13):
with that.
I think we've had thisconversation actually way back
yonder.
I'll try to find the episodethat we had it in.
But in 1 John 4, right, 1 John4, 8, whoever does not love does
not know God, because God islove.
It's not like just likesomething he does, like we do.
(07:34):
It is literally part of who heis and one of the reasons, like
AJ said, that we are able to,even we even exist.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, and I love that distinction because you know
we're commanded to love.
You know the scripture saysmultiple times love one another.
And God doesn't have to thinkto do that.
You know the fact that he is,he just does it.
Yeah, that's just what he does.
He doesn't have to think aboutit, he doesn't have to be like,
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oh, I'm going to forgive thembecause I need to do this.
No, it's just who he is, it'swhat he does because it's who he
is.
So I really appreciate thatdistinction.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yeah, so I think last week you gave it.
Did you give a Tozer quote lastweek?
Was it a Tozer or somebody else?
I?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
can't remember.
Yeah, I think it was a Tozerquote.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Well, I thought about it because I ran into this
Tozer quote earlier this weekand it fit beautifully with what
we're talking about.
And basically he said nothingGod ever does or ever did or
ever will do is separate fromthe love of God.
So you know, and you know thatit just encompasses that we
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talked last week aboutsovereignty and how he is
sovereign over all things, butyet nothing that he has ever
done is separate from his love.
So I think, my sweet, we talkeda little bit how we we like to
focus on his love and mercy andnot his justice and sovereignty
and the and you know those kindsof things.
But but the two are there,they're married, the two
components are part of I meanthey.
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They're not even part of him,they are him.
We can't wrap our brains aroundit.
So, yeah, so nothing isseparated from love as far as
what he does.
And then the Bible also tellsus that nothing can separate us
from his love when we know him.
How amazing is that?
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, that is amazing, you know
it's funny because when you'rementioning you know kind of the
justice part of God, it reallyis like his justice is part of
his love.
Because I just imagine for asecond someone doing the most
heinous thing to one of yourchildren, you know, and then
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someone you know who, who was ina position of authority or
power who could bring justice tothe situation, whether it's the
justice system or a judge orwhatever.
Imagine them saying oh, youknow, I'm, I'm not going to do
anything about that because Ilove this person who did this
crime.
Like that's not that wouldn'tbe loving to you or your child.
(10:26):
You know, it's like justicecannot be separated from love
and a lot of times we wantjustice when it comes to us, you
know, and people who havewronged us, but we don't want
justice, you know, by and large,because we think it's unloving
of God to hold peopleaccountable.
(10:47):
So it's like our thinking isflawed and God knows perfectly
the balance between all thethings you know, because he is
that.
So he knows what perfectjustice and love looks like.
He knows what love towards aperson needs to look like, you
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know, and and only he knows that.
You know, our job is to, firstoff, receive his love, receive
his forgiveness in our own lives, and then try to mimic that,
you know, and the way that welive our lives, and sometimes
that looks like standing up forsomeone who is, you know, it
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looks like standing up for theweak, it looks like being a
voice for the voiceless, youknow, and so a lot of times, our
understanding of love can be alittle skewed, you know.
There is, though, that justiceside of it.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, yeah, it there's, it's a it's again
because it is who he is.
None of these othercharacteristics we talk about
can be separated from thejustice part of it, the
sovereignty, part of it, themercy that we're going to talk
about.
I mean, nothing can beseparated from his love, because
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that is who he is and it'sbecause of that, like you said
at the beginning, that we evenexist and it's because of that
that we are rescued and saved,like we talked about last week.
I mean the most quoted verse inthe Bible John 3, 16, starts
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with for God so loved the world.
Romans 5, 8,.
God demonstrated his own lovefor us that while we were
sinners, you know he died for us.
Christ died for us.
I'm paraphrasing because Idon't have it in front of me,
but you know, the point is isthat it's all because of his
love.
So all of the things thatyou're talking about, all of the
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justice, all the sovereignty,all the things we've talked to
and will talk about over thismonth, are because he is love.
I think he gives us earthlyrelationships in order to
display in a small glimmer someof his characteristics, right
when we start thinking about howwe love, and particularly
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because he is our father, how welove our children.
If you have children, thosethat you love, that
unconditional love, think ofthat as being just a drop in the
bucket of how much he loves us.
And so you know, you may nothave had if you're listening to
me, you may not have had thetype of relationship, for
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example, with your father, whereyou felt fully loved.
Maybe you are in a relationshipwith a spouse where you don't
feel like you are being fullyloved.
Maybe your children you feellike your children are not
loving and respecting you, andso so you feel like these earth,
that earthly love, is a littleskewed.
You can know and trust that, um,that that is just a shadow and
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that the actual love that youget from God is perfect.
And I'm not really saying this.
Well, you need to help meclarify, because there's a
two-edged sword.
We love, we understand love andwe are loved in the human realm
to show God's love, but it'snot perfect, and so oftentimes
it doesn't, of course, manifestitself as perfect, and so
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sometimes that makes it harderfor us to trust in His love, and
that is something we have tofight against and hold on to the
fact that His love is perfectand he is.
You know, he is love.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah, yeah, no, I think that was very well said
and I totally agree with you.
And at our core, heart, emotionlevel, this is what we all need,
Like we have all been made toreceive that perfect love of God
and unfortunately, as youbrought up, a lot of us don't
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receive it from others and we'redisappointed, and it's because
we expect it and in some casesrightly so like people should be
able to love us, those parentsshould be able to love us as a
parent, should spouse the same,but ultimately no person can
meet that need for that kind oflove in our lives apart from God
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, and that's what we have toremember.
And if we're looking to peopleto do that and I tell my girls
this especially because teenagegirls they have that craving and
that longing and culture tellsthem that a boyfriend's going to
fix it and that longing andthey, you know, culture tells
them that a boyfriend's going tofix it and fill it and all the
things you know, and it'ssomething that we I think is
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natural for us to just kind oflook for in a person of the
opposite sex and and yet there'sa trap there if we don't know
that it's there and that is thatonly God can meet those needs.
You know, only God can be mysavior, Only God can be the love
of my life, you know.
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And so if I'm not aware of thatand I'm not like really tuned
in to getting those needs met inChrist alone, I'm setting
myself up for failure.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Right, right, right.
And sometimes I'm going to go.
I'm going to go a step further,and maybe a step too far, and
say that because we believe thatGod is in control and sovereign
over all things, like we talkedabout last week, we can trust
that when the love, our humanlove, fails to some extent or
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falls short of what we arelooking for, that may be an
indication that we need to belooking to the one, the only one
, that can love, that we need tobe looking to the one, the only
one, that can love.
So, you know, we can look at itall as again, all working
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together for his glory and ourgood.
And when you feel thosedeficiencies in your human love
relationships, whatever they are, we can know that that may be,
in fact, being used by God topoint our hearts to him.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yes, I definitely agree with that.
I think it's something that wecan use as a trigger to run to
him and get those needs met inhim, so as, as I'm sure you have
done and I have done many timesyou know, I think that's if
there's anyone younger in ouraudience or newer to the faith
who doesn't know where to getthose needs met or who doesn't,
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hasn't quite understood, you canuse that longing, that craving,
that disappointment as thetrigger to run to Christ Like
here's.
Here's a lesson.
Learn how to do that, becausethe quicker you do um, the the
more you're going to experiencethe love of your life in Christ.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah, yeah.
And part of that love is andwe're not going to talk about
this a lot, cause we could talkanother for another hour on this
but part of that love and partof the reason we know we can run
to him is because of the secondcharacteristic that we're
thinking about today, and that'sthe mercy, and that's the other
reason that he sent his sonright.
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So lamentation says thesteadfast love of God, of the
Lord, never ceases.
And then it says his merciesnever come to an end.
You know they're new everymorning.
I love that his mercies are newevery morning because we cannot
earn our salvation, we cannotearn our righteousness before
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him, and yet he made a way.
Because of that love he made away and that's what we can hold
on to.
And when AJ says trust him andhis love, that's what we need to
be thinking.
We need to remember the gospeland the fact that he had mercy
on us and grace for us.
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And because of that us andgrace for us, and because of
that we can trust Hisfaithfulness and trust Him.
But we need to remind ourselvesof that.
We need to listen to podcasts,we need to listen to sermons, we
need to go to church.
We need to study the Bible, weneed to spend time in prayer, we
need to do the things that wehave to do to remember the
gospel, because otherwise weforget all these lessons.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah, yeah, that's true, and I think too
understanding just a basicdefinition of what mercy is.
And so I was thinking aboutthis this morning, actually
before we hopped on here, and tome I remember somebody
explaining it like this,explaining it like this Mercy is
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God withholding punishment, orwithholding justice, in one
sense, from you for somethingthat you deserve.
So you know, we have all sinned, we all deserve death, we all
deserve hell.
His mercy withholds that fromus.
And then, on the other hand,there's grace, which is he gives
us what we don't deserve.
He gives us the good thingsthat we don't deserve.
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So it's not just that hewithholds bad that's mercy but
he gives us his favor and hisblessing and his goodness, which
is grace.
And so we use we use those termsinterchangeably, but I think
putting a little bit of puttingsome teeth to the definitions
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and then thinking about that,thinking about, okay, wow, what
does mercy look like in my life?
What are some of the times whenI knew I was in the wrong and
he withheld punishment orjudgment, or like even a harsh
discipline.
You know, he gave me space torepent and to turn and to do the
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right thing, like reallythinking about that component of
it, and then, on the other hand, thinking about how he has gone
over and above and beyond andgiven me his favor and his
blessing in ways that he hasjust truly shown his favor in my
life, like thinking about thataspect.
That's just a really goodexercise for us to engage in
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from time to time.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Yeah, I love thinking through that because we have a
God that offers both of those tous and which is so, so
encouraging and is enough tohelp us to face each new day,
because the mercies are new.
You know, last week.
If you haven't listened to lastweek, go back and listen to it,
because I referred to it a lot.
(22:04):
Sorry, but last week when I wastalking about God's holiness,
one of the things that came tomy mind was in Exodus 33, when
Moses was put in the cleft ofthe rock because he couldn't see
God's glory, because he woulddie.
But if you go back to thatpassage, I was thinking about
that this week actually, becausewhat God actually says to him,
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when God says, when Moses says,please show me your glory, he
says what God does is, he kindof translates his glory into a
couple of things.
He says my goodness, I will makemy goodness pass before you,
will proclaim before you my name, the Lord.
But then he says but I will beand I will be gracious, to whom
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I will be gracious.
That's that grace.
And separately, I will showmercy on whom I will show mercy?
And he's, he actually Godhimself, separates those two
things, like you just weretalking about, I'll be gracious
and I'll be merciful, he says.
And then he goes on to say youcannot see my face because
nobody can see my face and live.
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But I think it's really tellingthat when Moses says let me see
your glory and we know that hisglory is too great, his
holiness is too great, hisgoodness is too great that's a
characteristic we could betalking about as well.
What he brings forth as kind ofevidence of that is I will be
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gracious to those that I will begracious to, and I will have
mercy on those I will have mercyto.
And you know so he, he looks atthis as a core characteristic
of himself.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, I love that.
I do too and I love thatpassage.
I remember when I was reallyand I love that passage.
I remember when I was really Iguess I was new in the faith or
maybe I was just new to likesome of these concepts of God's
glory, because I specificallyremember a time when I was like
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whoa, god's glory is like I wasso almost addicted to it and
addicted to like seeing it andand just basking in it and
understanding, like Whoa, justthe awesomeness of God, really
just being awed by God.
And that verse, that passagewas so powerful in my life and
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it still is.
It's holds such meaning and thefact that he says his glory is
basically his goodness.
You know, like, if you want to,if you really want to be awed
by God, look at his character,look at his goodness, just how
good he is and and, like yousaid, that's his mercy and his
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grace right there.
You know that's a lifetime ofreally delving into and looking
for those things, thoseexpressions in our day to day
lives, looking for them in thepeople he brings across our
paths, in the.
This is the little daily things.
It's there constantly for usand that is to his glory.
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You know, that is what makeshim Unlike anything else and
unlike anyone else and it makeshim, it imparts to us, if we
allow it to, if we take the timeto really gaze upon him and his
goodness.
It fosters that awe in ourhearts that nothing else can do.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, and it is his love thatreally is the common denominator
between all of it, between allof it between you know, between
the mercy and the grace, and ourreaction to him and our
response to those truths thatyou're talking about.
So I don't know, we could talkforever.
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We shouldn't talk foreverbecause nobody's going to listen
forever.
But I guess, as a takeaway,let's kind of think through
these characteristics of God andI'm going to challenge you
again.
Well, if you're in Sojo Academyor you want to dig deeper in
this, we are definitely diggingdeeper in Sojo Academy.
So go to sojoacademycom andlet's check it out.
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But otherwise, even if you'renot, dig deeper into these
truths and maybe look up somereferences about his love, about
his mercy, and let it seep intoyour heart and let it bolster
your spirit and help you to growin that.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, because you know the thing about it is is
when we understand God for whohe is, then we begin to see him.
We begin to understand how heshows up in our lives and act on
that Right, and then thattotally shapes the way we.
It shapes everything, like wementioned last week.
You know, our eye is the is thelight of our body.
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Jesus said in Matthew.
And if we can't see correctly,if we can't perceive God
correctly, then we can'tperceive life correctly.
We get offended at every littlething or we think everybody's
out to get us.
You know, like how we seethings affects every single
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thing we do.
It affects our mental andemotional health.
It affects our mental,emotional health, it affects our
choices in life.
And if we could see clearly,which starts with understanding
God, his sovereignty, like wetalked last week, his love, like
this week if we can see andunderstand God, then we see
ourselves and we see everythingin life completely differently,
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and that is a starting place fora healthy person, right?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
And it helps us to treat others in a Christlike
manner and thereby and therebypointing them to the, the um,
the giver of those of thosecharacteristics to us Right.
So how do we love withoutunderstanding the love of God?
How are we merciful to thosearound us without remembering
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the mercy we've been given?
So it does, it should affectour lives.
And if it does not, if we arenot exhibiting these
characteristics, you know theywill know we're Christians by
our love.
If we're not exhibiting thesecharacteristics, you know they
will know we're Christians byour love.
If we're not showing thesethings, then I think it takes a
little more.
We need a little morereflection, a little more work
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on it.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
So I agree, yeah, you're right.
You're right Because 1 John itsays you know, he who does not
love does not know God, for Godis love Like the more we know
God, the more we understand himand walk with him.
It's like he fills our tankwith his nature that we have to
give to others.
So, yeah, it's it's veryimportant for us to to be
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talking about this.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah, I agree.
Well, I'm going to quote onemore scripture to kind of end us
, because to me this issomething that I need on a
regular basis, and it's justfrom the Psalms.
It's Psalm 86.
Actually, it says Psalm 86, 15and 16,.
It says you, o Lord, are acompassionate and gracious God,
slow to anger, abounding in loveand faithfulness.
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Turn to me and have mercy on me.
Show your strength on behalf ofyour servants.
Save me because I serve you,and I am constantly praying that
.
Show me your grace and yourmercy and your love because I
serve you.
That little caveat is where Ialways get a little convicted,
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because the only way that I canask these things is when I am
living them, as we're talkingabout, and so not perfectly and
not in my own strength, butbecause of Christ in me.
So as we move forward in thisweek and as I move forward in
this week and reflect on thesecharacteristics, then I'm going
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to remember that as I ask formercy and grace and love, I'm
going to also remember that he'sasking me to serve Him.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, yeah, and from that he wants us, he wants a
surrendered heart, you know, andthat's not always an easy thing
to do, but that's, that's thebest place to be.
So, yeah, I love that endingverse.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Okay, well, come back next week.
We will be talking about otherthings.
I think I remember, but I don'twant to say it in case I'm
wrong.
I definitely don't know so yeah,I think I know, but I'm not
going to say it because I mightbe wrong, because there's two
more weeks, so I don't want tomix them up, but we will
definitely be back and we lookforward to talking to you again
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Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yes, and until next week we will leave you guys to
study the love of the Lord.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
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the truth of the gospel.
Talk to you then.
Yeah, I remember the very firsttime we met we had this
conversation.
Do you remember that?
Speaker 2 (32:06):
I do.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
First time we met in person, yes, in like 20,.
I think it was 2019 when weactually managed to gather, get
together, and I'm so coffeeobsessed that you told me you
don't drink coffee.
And I remember thinking thismay be it.
What's wrong with her, this maybe it, go, go.
Welcome to the Sojo Show with Jen and AJ, where
you'll dig deep into God's Wordalongside two imperfect,
frequently ineloquent women, aswe discover fresh ways to walk
out God's truth together.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Well, good morning everybody.
Here I am saying morning andit's morning for us, it may not
be morning.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I did that last time.
It may not be morning.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
It just feels so natural to say, when it's like
crack of dawn, I know?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Do you know that right now, where I am, it's
supposed to be snowing?
In Georgia it's supposed to besnowing.
That's crazy.
I know we um that kids are outof school for snow and I'm
looking outside and you're justwaiting for it.
I'm just watching.
It's not even below freezing,it's like 36 degrees or
something, so it's not gonnasnow, so it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
But hey, who knows, who knows?
I mean, we have some crazyweather right now, so who knows?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
listen to me.
I'm disappointed.
Most of y'all listening areprobably like get the snow out
of here.
It's like snow, I know.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I'm so sorry.
Well, the first thing thatpopped in my head when you said
that was wow, you sound like apet waiting for their person to
come home.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I know, it's kind of like you know I live in the
South, it doesn't ever snow here.
It's kind of like you know Ilive in the South, it doesn't
ever snow here, and when it doessnow it is a big inconvenience
because everything shuts down,but it doesn't last more than
about one day and then we'reback to normal.
So it's kind of a novelty forme where I know that some of you
are living in areas where it'sa real pain.
(01:39):
So I apologize.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I know.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Like there's some total eye rolls going on right
now.
I'm being so insensitive.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Okay, well, hey, along those lines I see you are.
So people can't see what I'mseeing.
Jen just took a drink ofsomething and I felt the total
win, because you have to tellthem what it is you're drinking,
because you have to tell themwhat it is, you're drinking,
(02:14):
okay.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
So I've gotten a new obsession, okay, a new passion,
and if you know AJ and I at all,you know that there is a
running battle between coffeeand tea.
Yeah, like for years For yearsand I am still very pro coffee.
I still drink coffee everymorning, but in the evenings and
some mornings I have gotteninto drinking ginger tea.
(02:34):
You know what?
I'm calling it ginger tea, butI don't think it's really ginger
tea.
I just have to stop and sayreally quickly, you're making
yourself sound like a very oldperson.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
It's a new fit sister , what do you mean?
An old person?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
No, that just sounds like something a very old person
would say Well, if it bansanything, I got hooked on it
from a very young person who, oh, okay, that helps, it's a hip
and cool thing to do, becauseI'm really really hip and cool,
because so when I was recoveringfrom my surgery last month, so
(03:18):
people were bringing me meals,so so sweet, loved it.
And this one young she was,she's younger than me, I mean
she's in I don't know how she is, I don't want to say, but she's
30, maybe early thirties.
Anyway, it doesn't matter,she's young for me.
And she, when she brought hermeal, she brought me this like
jug of like it looked like itlooked like, you know, dishwater
(03:39):
, and I was like what is this?
She says, okay, this is whatI've been doing every night.
It's ginger tea and I had it andI became obsessed and I've had
it every day since.
So it is just water on the pot,on a pot on the stove, with
fresh ginger root in it.
That's all it is.
I love that.
It's taken me a long time tofigure out how to do it right so
(04:01):
that you get that nice burngoing down.
I can really taste it and, yeah, I love it.
It's supposed to beanti-inflammatory.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah Well, ginger is really good for you.
I learned that when we wereliving overseas.
That's what.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
I hear.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Like, yeah, it's a great fixer of all the things.
It's not really tea.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
There's not like tea tea like tea leaves and whatever
tea actually is which I reallydon't know because I'm not a tea
person but like it's no actualtea, it's just water and ginger
root, but I'm calling it myginger tea and I'm feeling super
like old slash.
Cool matter of fact, brad camein.
(04:45):
My husband came in the othernight and I was just sitting by
the.
I just sit there and wait forit to boil, right, you just
watch pot and he's like what areyou doing every night?
What is this on the stove everyday?
Like my ginger, you know.
And he's like happening rightnow.
So he thinks I'm old baby,that's okay, that means he's an
(05:06):
old man.
Anyway, I told him, he told meabout it and he's like oh okay,
she's really young and hip andcool and healthy and all the
things.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
So yeah, that, that matters it does matter be sure
to include that part of thestory if you're listening.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Thank you, chelsea.
Anyway, that that well, that'ssomething to share, that's
that's good.
So if you guys go out and try,if you're listening, thank you,
chelsea, anyway, well, that'ssomething to share, that's good.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
So if you guys go out and try this this week, you'll
have to let us know, Drop us anote in our inbox and tell us
that you are loving the tea.
Yes, the actual tea.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
All right, so that's it.
That's way more than you wantedto know about something new
that I'm loving.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yes, you took the sip and I thought interesting.
Okay, Cause a little birdietold me earlier this week that
you were enjoying something new.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
So yeah, yeah, so I've gone over to the dark side.
So AJ does drink a teeny bit ofcoffee every once in a while,
and I have become ginger rootwater obsessed.
Okay, well, there, you have itAll.
Right, that's.
I think that's enoughdiscussion about coffee and tea.
What are we talking about today?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Well, yes, it is definitely enough, but if you're
still with us, it's worth thewait, because we're talking
about God's character this monthin Sojo Academy, and our topic
for today is on something wecould not live without, an
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aspect of his nature thatwithout this, we wouldn't even
be alive.
He'd just wipe us all off theface of the earth.
So we're talking about hismercy and compassion.
Is that right?
Did I get it right?
I actually probably should have.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Love and mercy.
Yes, love, well, they're twodifferent things but they're
very connected.
So, so right, god's love whichis really a misnomer because
it's not that God has love Goddoesn't show love, god doesn't
exhibit love.
God literally is love, which Ithink is a whole conversation
(07:13):
with that.
I think we've had thisconversation actually way back
yonder.
I'll try to find the episodethat we had it in.
But in 1 John 4, right, 1 John4, 8, whoever does not love does
not know God, because God islove.
It's not like just likesomething he does, like we do.
(07:34):
It is literally part of who heis and one of the reasons, like
AJ said, that we are able to,even we even exist.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, and I love that distinction because you know
we're commanded to love.
You know the scripture saysmultiple times love one another.
And God doesn't have to thinkto do that.
You know the fact that he is,he just does it.
Yeah, that's just what he does.
He doesn't have to think aboutit, he doesn't have to be like,
(08:08):
oh, I'm going to forgive thembecause I need to do this.
No, it's just who he is, it'swhat he does because it's who he
is.
So I really appreciate thatdistinction.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yeah, so I think last week you gave it.
Did you give a Tozer quote lastweek?
Was it a Tozer or somebody else?
I?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
can't remember.
Yeah, I think it was a Tozerquote.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Well, I thought about it because I ran into this
Tozer quote earlier this weekand it fit beautifully with what
we're talking about.
And basically he said nothingGod ever does or ever did or
ever will do is separate fromthe love of God.
So you know, and you know thatit just encompasses that we
(08:57):
talked last week aboutsovereignty and how he is
sovereign over all things, butyet nothing that he has ever
done is separate from his love.
So I think, my sweet, we talkeda little bit how we we like to
focus on his love and mercy andnot his justice and sovereignty
and the and you know those kindsof things.
But but the two are there,they're married, the two
components are part of I meanthey.
(09:20):
They're not even part of him,they are him.
We can't wrap our brains aroundit.
So, yeah, so nothing isseparated from love as far as
what he does.
And then the Bible also tellsus that nothing can separate us
from his love when we know him.
How amazing is that?
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, that is amazing, you know
it's funny because when you'rementioning you know kind of the
justice part of God, it reallyis like his justice is part of
his love.
Because I just imagine for asecond someone doing the most
heinous thing to one of yourchildren, you know, and then
(10:02):
someone you know who, who was ina position of authority or
power who could bring justice tothe situation, whether it's the
justice system or a judge orwhatever.
Imagine them saying oh, youknow, I'm, I'm not going to do
anything about that because Ilove this person who did this
crime.
Like that's not that wouldn'tbe loving to you or your child.
(10:26):
You know, it's like justicecannot be separated from love
and a lot of times we wantjustice when it comes to us, you
know, and people who havewronged us, but we don't want
justice, you know, by and large,because we think it's unloving
of God to hold peopleaccountable.
(10:47):
So it's like our thinking isflawed and God knows perfectly
the balance between all thethings you know, because he is
that.
So he knows what perfectjustice and love looks like.
He knows what love towards aperson needs to look like, you
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know, and and only he knows that.
You know, our job is to, firstoff, receive his love, receive
his forgiveness in our own lives, and then try to mimic that,
you know, and the way that welive our lives, and sometimes
that looks like standing up forsomeone who is, you know, it
(11:31):
looks like standing up for theweak, it looks like being a
voice for the voiceless, youknow, and so a lot of times, our
understanding of love can be alittle skewed, you know.
There is, though, that justiceside of it.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, yeah, it there's, it's a it's again
because it is who he is.
None of these othercharacteristics we talk about
can be separated from thejustice part of it, the
sovereignty, part of it, themercy that we're going to talk
about.
I mean, nothing can beseparated from his love, because
(12:11):
that is who he is and it'sbecause of that, like you said
at the beginning, that we evenexist and it's because of that
that we are rescued and saved,like we talked about last week.
I mean the most quoted verse inthe Bible John 3, 16, starts
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with for God so loved the world.
Romans 5, 8,.
God demonstrated his own lovefor us that while we were
sinners, you know he died for us.
Christ died for us.
I'm paraphrasing because Idon't have it in front of me,
but you know, the point is isthat it's all because of his
love.
So all of the things thatyou're talking about, all of the
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justice, all the sovereignty,all the things we've talked to
and will talk about over thismonth, are because he is love.
I think he gives us earthlyrelationships in order to
display in a small glimmer someof his characteristics, right
when we start thinking about howwe love, and particularly
(13:15):
because he is our father, how welove our children.
If you have children, thosethat you love, that
unconditional love, think ofthat as being just a drop in the
bucket of how much he loves us.
And so you know, you may nothave had if you're listening to
me, you may not have had thetype of relationship, for
(13:38):
example, with your father, whereyou felt fully loved.
Maybe you are in a relationshipwith a spouse where you don't
feel like you are being fullyloved.
Maybe your children you feellike your children are not
loving and respecting you, andso so you feel like these earth,
that earthly love, is a littleskewed.
You can know and trust that, um,that that is just a shadow and
(14:02):
that the actual love that youget from God is perfect.
And I'm not really saying this.
Well, you need to help meclarify, because there's a
two-edged sword.
We love, we understand love andwe are loved in the human realm
to show God's love, but it'snot perfect, and so oftentimes
it doesn't, of course, manifestitself as perfect, and so
(14:25):
sometimes that makes it harderfor us to trust in His love, and
that is something we have tofight against and hold on to the
fact that His love is perfectand he is.
You know, he is love.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah, yeah, no, I think that was very well said
and I totally agree with you.
And at our core, heart, emotionlevel, this is what we all need,
Like we have all been made toreceive that perfect love of God
and unfortunately, as youbrought up, a lot of us don't
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receive it from others and we'redisappointed, and it's because
we expect it and in some casesrightly so like people should be
able to love us, those parentsshould be able to love us as a
parent, should spouse the same,but ultimately no person can
meet that need for that kind oflove in our lives apart from God
(15:30):
, and that's what we have toremember.
And if we're looking to peopleto do that and I tell my girls
this especially because teenagegirls they have that craving and
that longing and culture tellsthem that a boyfriend's going to
fix it and that longing andthey, you know, culture tells
them that a boyfriend's going tofix it and fill it and all the
things you know, and it'ssomething that we I think is
(15:52):
natural for us to just kind oflook for in a person of the
opposite sex and and yet there'sa trap there if we don't know
that it's there and that is thatonly God can meet those needs.
You know, only God can be mysavior, Only God can be the love
of my life, you know.
(16:12):
And so if I'm not aware of thatand I'm not like really tuned
in to getting those needs met inChrist alone, I'm setting
myself up for failure.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Right, right, right.
And sometimes I'm going to go.
I'm going to go a step further,and maybe a step too far, and
say that because we believe thatGod is in control and sovereign
over all things, like we talkedabout last week, we can trust
that when the love, our humanlove, fails to some extent or
(16:52):
falls short of what we arelooking for, that may be an
indication that we need to belooking to the one, the only one
, that can love, that we need tobe looking to the one, the only
one, that can love.
So, you know, we can look at itall as again, all working
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together for his glory and ourgood.
And when you feel thosedeficiencies in your human love
relationships, whatever they are, we can know that that may be,
in fact, being used by God topoint our hearts to him.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yes, I definitely agree with that.
I think it's something that wecan use as a trigger to run to
him and get those needs met inhim, so as, as I'm sure you have
done and I have done many timesyou know, I think that's if
there's anyone younger in ouraudience or newer to the faith
who doesn't know where to getthose needs met or who doesn't,
(17:57):
hasn't quite understood, you canuse that longing, that craving,
that disappointment as thetrigger to run to Christ Like
here's.
Here's a lesson.
Learn how to do that, becausethe quicker you do um, the the
more you're going to experiencethe love of your life in Christ.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah, yeah.
And part of that love is andwe're not going to talk about
this a lot, cause we could talkanother for another hour on this
but part of that love and partof the reason we know we can run
to him is because of the secondcharacteristic that we're
thinking about today, and that'sthe mercy, and that's the other
reason that he sent his sonright.
(18:39):
So lamentation says thesteadfast love of God, of the
Lord, never ceases.
And then it says his merciesnever come to an end.
You know they're new everymorning.
I love that his mercies are newevery morning because we cannot
earn our salvation, we cannotearn our righteousness before
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him, and yet he made a way.
Because of that love he made away and that's what we can hold
on to.
And when AJ says trust him andhis love, that's what we need to
be thinking.
We need to remember the gospeland the fact that he had mercy
on us and grace for us.
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And because of that us andgrace for us, and because of
that we can trust Hisfaithfulness and trust Him.
But we need to remind ourselvesof that.
We need to listen to podcasts,we need to listen to sermons, we
need to go to church.
We need to study the Bible, weneed to spend time in prayer, we
need to do the things that wehave to do to remember the
gospel, because otherwise weforget all these lessons.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah, yeah, that's true, and I think too
understanding just a basicdefinition of what mercy is.
And so I was thinking aboutthis this morning, actually
before we hopped on here, and tome I remember somebody
explaining it like this,explaining it like this Mercy is
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God withholding punishment, orwithholding justice, in one
sense, from you for somethingthat you deserve.
So you know, we have all sinned, we all deserve death, we all
deserve hell.
His mercy withholds that fromus.
And then, on the other hand,there's grace, which is he gives
us what we don't deserve.
He gives us the good thingsthat we don't deserve.
(20:34):
So it's not just that hewithholds bad that's mercy but
he gives us his favor and hisblessing and his goodness, which
is grace.
And so we use we use those termsinterchangeably, but I think
putting a little bit of puttingsome teeth to the definitions
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and then thinking about that,thinking about, okay, wow, what
does mercy look like in my life?
What are some of the times whenI knew I was in the wrong and
he withheld punishment orjudgment, or like even a harsh
discipline.
You know, he gave me space torepent and to turn and to do the
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right thing, like reallythinking about that component of
it, and then, on the other hand, thinking about how he has gone
over and above and beyond andgiven me his favor and his
blessing in ways that he hasjust truly shown his favor in my
life, like thinking about thataspect.
That's just a really goodexercise for us to engage in
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from time to time.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Yeah, I love thinking through that because we have a
God that offers both of those tous and which is so, so
encouraging and is enough tohelp us to face each new day,
because the mercies are new.
You know, last week.
If you haven't listened to lastweek, go back and listen to it,
because I referred to it a lot.
(22:04):
Sorry, but last week when I wastalking about God's holiness,
one of the things that came tomy mind was in Exodus 33, when
Moses was put in the cleft ofthe rock because he couldn't see
God's glory, because he woulddie.
But if you go back to thatpassage, I was thinking about
that this week actually, becausewhat God actually says to him,
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when God says, when Moses says,please show me your glory, he
says what God does is, he kindof translates his glory into a
couple of things.
He says my goodness, I will makemy goodness pass before you,
will proclaim before you my name, the Lord.
But then he says but I will beand I will be gracious, to whom
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I will be gracious.
That's that grace.
And separately, I will showmercy on whom I will show mercy?
And he's, he actually Godhimself, separates those two
things, like you just weretalking about, I'll be gracious
and I'll be merciful, he says.
And then he goes on to say youcannot see my face because
nobody can see my face and live.
(23:08):
But I think it's really tellingthat when Moses says let me see
your glory and we know that hisglory is too great, his
holiness is too great, hisgoodness is too great that's a
characteristic we could betalking about as well.
What he brings forth as kind ofevidence of that is I will be
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gracious to those that I will begracious to, and I will have
mercy on those I will have mercyto.
And you know so he, he looks atthis as a core characteristic
of himself.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, I love that.
I do too and I love thatpassage.
I remember when I was reallyand I love that passage.
I remember when I was really Iguess I was new in the faith or
maybe I was just new to likesome of these concepts of God's
glory, because I specificallyremember a time when I was like
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whoa, god's glory is like I wasso almost addicted to it and
addicted to like seeing it andand just basking in it and
understanding, like Whoa, justthe awesomeness of God, really
just being awed by God.
And that verse, that passagewas so powerful in my life and
(24:20):
it still is.
It's holds such meaning and thefact that he says his glory is
basically his goodness.
You know, like, if you want to,if you really want to be awed
by God, look at his character,look at his goodness, just how
good he is and and, like yousaid, that's his mercy and his
(24:43):
grace right there.
You know that's a lifetime ofreally delving into and looking
for those things, thoseexpressions in our day to day
lives, looking for them in thepeople he brings across our
paths, in the.
This is the little daily things.
It's there constantly for usand that is to his glory.
(25:04):
You know, that is what makeshim Unlike anything else and
unlike anyone else and it makeshim, it imparts to us, if we
allow it to, if we take the timeto really gaze upon him and his
goodness.
It fosters that awe in ourhearts that nothing else can do.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, and it is his love thatreally is the common denominator
between all of it, between allof it between you know, between
the mercy and the grace, and ourreaction to him and our
response to those truths thatyou're talking about.
So I don't know, we could talkforever.
(25:49):
We shouldn't talk foreverbecause nobody's going to listen
forever.
But I guess, as a takeaway,let's kind of think through
these characteristics of God andI'm going to challenge you
again.
Well, if you're in Sojo Academyor you want to dig deeper in
this, we are definitely diggingdeeper in Sojo Academy.
So go to sojoacademycom andlet's check it out.
(26:11):
But otherwise, even if you'renot, dig deeper into these
truths and maybe look up somereferences about his love, about
his mercy, and let it seep intoyour heart and let it bolster
your spirit and help you to growin that.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, because you know the thing about it is is
when we understand God for whohe is, then we begin to see him.
We begin to understand how heshows up in our lives and act on
that Right, and then thattotally shapes the way we.
It shapes everything, like wementioned last week.
You know, our eye is the is thelight of our body.
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Jesus said in Matthew.
And if we can't see correctly,if we can't perceive God
correctly, then we can'tperceive life correctly.
We get offended at every littlething or we think everybody's
out to get us.
You know, like how we seethings affects every single
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thing we do.
It affects our mental andemotional health.
It affects our mental,emotional health, it affects our
choices in life.
And if we could see clearly,which starts with understanding
God, his sovereignty, like wetalked last week, his love, like
this week if we can see andunderstand God, then we see
ourselves and we see everythingin life completely differently,
(27:37):
and that is a starting place fora healthy person, right?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
And it helps us to treat others in a Christlike
manner and thereby and therebypointing them to the, the um,
the giver of those of thosecharacteristics to us Right.
So how do we love withoutunderstanding the love of God?
How are we merciful to thosearound us without remembering
(28:06):
the mercy we've been given?
So it does, it should affectour lives.
And if it does not, if we arenot exhibiting these
characteristics, you know theywill know we're Christians by
our love.
If we're not exhibiting thesecharacteristics, you know they
will know we're Christians byour love.
If we're not showing thesethings, then I think it takes a
little more.
We need a little morereflection, a little more work
(28:26):
on it.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
So I agree, yeah, you're right.
You're right Because 1 John itsays you know, he who does not
love does not know God, for Godis love Like the more we know
God, the more we understand himand walk with him.
It's like he fills our tankwith his nature that we have to
give to others.
So, yeah, it's it's veryimportant for us to to be
(28:49):
talking about this.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah, I agree.
Well, I'm going to quote onemore scripture to kind of end us
, because to me this issomething that I need on a
regular basis, and it's justfrom the Psalms.
It's Psalm 86.
Actually, it says Psalm 86, 15and 16,.
It says you, o Lord, are acompassionate and gracious God,
slow to anger, abounding in loveand faithfulness.
(29:12):
Turn to me and have mercy on me.
Show your strength on behalf ofyour servants.
Save me because I serve you,and I am constantly praying that
.
Show me your grace and yourmercy and your love because I
serve you.
That little caveat is where Ialways get a little convicted,
(29:34):
because the only way that I canask these things is when I am
living them, as we're talkingabout, and so not perfectly and
not in my own strength, butbecause of Christ in me.
So as we move forward in thisweek and as I move forward in
this week and reflect on thesecharacteristics, then I'm going
(29:56):
to remember that as I ask formercy and grace and love, I'm
going to also remember that he'sasking me to serve Him.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, yeah, and from that he wants us, he wants a
surrendered heart, you know, andthat's not always an easy thing
to do, but that's, that's thebest place to be.
So, yeah, I love that endingverse.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Okay, well, come back next week.
We will be talking about otherthings.
I think I remember, but I don'twant to say it in case I'm
wrong.
I definitely don't know so yeah,I think I know, but I'm not
going to say it because I mightbe wrong, because there's two
more weeks, so I don't want tomix them up, but we will
definitely be back and we lookforward to talking to you again
(30:46):
and leave us a comment thatyou're listening.
It's helpful for other peopleto find the podcast.
Share it with other people ifyou find it helpful at all.
Again, our goal with thispodcast is simply to encourage
others to get into the Word andto learn these things for
themselves, so we would reallyappreciate the shares and the
(31:07):
comments.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yes, and until next week we will leave you guys to
study the love of the Lord.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
All right, have a good week.
Thank you for listening to theSojo Show.
We are so grateful that you didand we're so thankful for the
opportunity to spread the goodnews of the gospel in such a fun
and unique way.
If you enjoyed the show, we'dlove it if you would leave us a
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(31:35):
Also, tell your friends.
That's the number one way weget people finding out about who
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Show.
We'll be back every Mondaydigging into the truth of God's
Word, sharing, laughing,glorifying God in all that we do
and hopefully, encouragingwomen from all over the world in
(31:59):
the truth of the gospel.
Talk to you then.
Yeah, I remember the very firsttime we met we had this
conversation.
Do you remember that?
Speaker 2 (32:06):
I do.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
First time we met in person, yes, in like 20,.
I think it was 2019 when weactually managed to gather, get
together, and I'm so coffeeobsessed that you told me you
don't drink coffee.
And I remember thinking thismay be it.
What's wrong with her, this maybe it, go, go.
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