May 22, 2025 • 46 mins
What happens when the energy that makes us who we are leaves our physical shell? Steven Vasquez, a paranormal investigator with over a decade of experience exploring the unexplained, joins the Sonic Hitchhiker Podcast to share the deeply personal experience that transformed his approach to ghost hunting.
After his father's death in 2016, Steven waited months for the promised sign that something existed beyond death. When it finally came—through the unmistakable touch of his father's calloused hand while lying in bed—it erased all doubt. That single moment of connection stripped away his grief and provided the verification he'd been seeking that his paranormal work had genuine purpose.
From there, we journey through Steven's most compelling investigations across haunted Texas locations. At Blackbeard's restaurant, he captured a woman's moan on video when no one else was present. At Yorktown Memorial Hospital, mysterious scratches appeared on his face that somehow passed through his glasses without moving them. Most terrifying was his encounter at the Mineral Wells Haunted Hill House, where a clown doll seemed to launch itself at him during a livestreamed investigation—a moment that turned him into "the fastest man alive" as he fled in terror.
Throughout our conversation, Steven's methodical approach to investigation shines through. Using multiple camera angles, livestreaming, and careful documentation, he creates transparency that allows viewers to judge the evidence for themselves. Whether you're a skeptic or a believer, his experiences raise fascinating questions about consciousness, energy, and what might exist beyond the boundaries of our physical world.
Listen now and decide for yourself: when thousands of unexplainable experiences occur worldwide, how many can we dismiss before admitting there might be something more to our reality than what we can readily explain?
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome to the Sonic Hitchhiker podcast dedicated to
all things strange, mysteriousand just plain out of the
ordinary.
It is because of his interestin these experiences that this
podcast was created.
And now your host, billy Shadow.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Welcome everyone to season two of the sonic
hitchhiker podcast.
You know, david, season one hadplenty of guests that blew our
mind and that had so manyamazing stories in such a great
season.
Uh to for our first season ofthe sonic hitchhiker podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I thought it was great uh, yeah, I mean it was
definitely we had some greatguests, but I mean we had some
amazing guests booked and thisfirst episode that you're about
to hear, wow yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
That's all I got to say is wow, so get ready for
this first episode.
We have Steven Vasquez out ofTexas.
He is a paranormal investigator.
He'll tell you about that.
He also has a podcast as well.
He also has other social mediaplatforms and pages that he will
tell you about that you canfollow.
(01:12):
I can tell you this is going tobe a very interesting guest and
I really look forward totalking to him, and I know
David's looking forward tolistening to him as well, and I
hope all of you are.
So a little something to talkabout too.
As far as season two, we haveplenty of cool guests lined up
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for the season.
Season two will also consist of10 episodes, and we are also
working on a little studio, anew studio that we will also at
some point do video podcastsfrom as well.
Not sure what part of theseason that will begin, but for
now, we are just going to enjoythe guests that we have lined up
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And now we will talk to ourguest, stephen Vasquez.
Enjoy, stephen, you have you.
You are you a, you consideryourself or you are, you're, a
paranormal investigator.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Yeah, I, I've been, and by the way Steven's out of
Texas.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I'm right, yes, yes, out of.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
South Texas, corpus Christi, texas.
Yes, so I, I've been doing thisfor about 10 years.
Seriously, we've dabbled in itway before that.
I've always seen things that Icouldn't explain when I was as a
kid, and so when I became ateenager, my friends and I kind
of got together and we would goand go through cemeteries with
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our little voice recorders andtry to just capture things with
our little video cameras, and wedidn't really know what we were
doing.
We just knew that we were outthere having fun, you know, and
I didn't start to take thisseriously until my father passed
away.
So when my father passed away,we would he was sick for a
(03:19):
really long time, but we wouldalways joke about when he passed
away that he would let me knowthat he was still around or that
there was something after, andso he passed away in 2016.
And I was already doinginvestigations here and there,
and you know, it was somethingthat he was very interested in.
He loved when I would go and doinvestigations, and so we would
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sit there and we would talk andI would tell him everything
that happened, and he'd alwaystell me you know well, when I,
when I, die, I'm going to letyou know that there's something
on the other side.
That way, you get yourverification right then and
there.
So he passed away.
His uh, his anniversary isactually coming up, um, in a
couple of weeks and uh, but hepassed away June 13th of 2016.
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But he passed away June 13th of2016.
And my sister, who she was closeto my dad, but she wasn't as
close as my dad and I.
My dad and I were best friendsfrom the day I was born, like I
was always his favorite.
He would always tell me all thetime You're my favorite, you're
my favorite.
I'm like, stop saying that.
You can't say that in front ofmy brother and sister you know,
they get kind of what about us,you know?
but I stuck by my dad, you know,through thick and thin, and
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when my parents got divorced, Istayed with him.
My brother and sister went withmy mom, but he passed away, and
so I started to think, well,what the hell?
He would always tell me that hewould let me know that he was
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around, and I didn't getanything.
A few months passed, nothing,nothing, nothing.
And my sister's posting thisstuff on Facebook and I'm just
like, whatever, whatever, you'renot seeing nothing, whatever.
But then one night I am gettingready for bed and my ex-wife,
the way we used to sleep on thebed, she would sleep on the edge
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of the bed and I slept by thewall, so she's already asleep.
I climb into bed tv's still on.
Haven't even gotten, you know,haven't even gotten to that
point where I'm dozing off.
I roll over, she's got one armunder her head and her other arm
is on her side and she's facingaway from me.
She's facing towards, you know,the door, yeah.
And so I just kind of lay down,I roll over and I put my arm
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over her and I feel a hand touchmy hand.
Oh boy, she didn't move.
Okay, so it happens so fast.
I'm getting chills talking aboutit right now and every time I
talk about this I get chills andI envision it.
But it felt it was only a splitsecond, but it felt like it
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lasted forever.
All of my sadness, all of myanger, all of my depression in
that moment was gone, wow, and Ifelt the roughness in his hands
, like I held his hands almostuntil he took his last breath,
which is another story I'm goingto.
That leads into this.
But I felt, I felt theroughness of his hands.
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You know, before he got sick,he worked in the oil field, so
he had these rough hands, youknow, and I felt it, and I felt
that feeling like everything'sgoing to be okay.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Was there an energy, almost like a energy that flowed
through you at that same moment?
It?
Speaker 4 (06:35):
did, because the same kind of chills that I'm getting
right now talking about it andthat I get every time I talk
about it.
It's the same kind of feelingthat I got.
I knew it wasn't my ex-wife, Iknew it wasn't her.
And so I sit up and I look overand, mind you, I had just
closed my eyes, like I put myarm over her, had just closed my
eyes, and I felt it likeinstantly.
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And so I sit up and I look andshe hasn't moved.
Her arm is still under her head, the other arm you know her
other arm still at her head.
The other hand, you know, herother arm still at her side.
And I'm sitting there and I'mjust like in disbelief at what
just happened.
And so I kind of shove her andshe's like what the hell?
And like wake up.
Like dad was just here andshe's like what?
And I said dad was just here,he held my hand.
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From that point forward is whenI started taking paranormal
investigations seriously.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
That right.
There was my verification thatI needed that what I was doing
isn't just for nothing.
There is something out there.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Well, stephen, here's the deal with that for me.
Here's why this interests me.
First of all, whether anyoneadmits it or not, I believe that
most people have to believethat there is something more,
because there are too manystories out there, like yours,
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like mine, like so many otherpeople I know it's.
It's kind of like it's let's.
It's kind of like when someoneis accused let's say someone's
accused of beating someone up,they're like oh, that guy's not
violent.
Then you have 10 more storiesof someone saying, yeah, he beat
me up too.
You're like whoa, wait a minute.
You're like well, I still don'tknow if I believe it.
Then there's 20, then there's30.
(08:18):
Oh, you know, like the billcosby thing, oh you know, what,
even if there's one that's,there's something to it.
I feel that way about paranormalactivities and ghosts.
I feel that way about ufos.
I feel that way because, okay,a handful of instances, even,
let's say, even a couple ofhundred, or whatever in the
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scheme of things, in the schemeof the world, but when you get
thousands upon millions of thesestories all over the place,
look, they're not all fake,there's something to it so that
that drives me, um, yeah, in oneof my earlier episodes I won't
go into it the one of the things, too, that that I'm interested
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in this, for I've seen thingswhen I was a kid as well.
Uh, especially one instancethat really has stuck with me
all these years, and I also hadmy, one of my ex-wives.
We had two dogs and one of thedogs that we put down it made me
think of this with your storyabout your dad and that brush
with the hand uh, one of thedogs that we were, we were close
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to both, they were just likethey're like kids, you know,
pets become like children andone.
We had to put them both downeventually, but the first one we
put down, uh, he came back tovisit us the night after just
one night.
I thought it was me.
Then he went to my wife at thetime and she started crying.
I said what happened?
She said, uh, boston, the dogjust came.
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It just came in my room andbrushed up against me.
So that was very real.
Yeah, so you know what's goingon.
There's no doubt in your mind,so that I really have a huge
interest in this thing and Ilove hearing stories like the
one you just told, which is veryreal.
And see, here's another thingpeople, there's a stigma.
(10:04):
There's a stigma put on a lotof paranormal activity or or
ghosts, spirits, but it's notalways a fearful thing.
In your case, it was comforting.
In your case, having your dadfrom beyond or another dimension
.
However, this is once we leavethis life.
Rub his hand to let you know.
You know, this is me and itgave you such a feeling of,
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would you say, peace and it didyeah yeah I mean, like I said,
yeah, you wonder, and youwondered too why hasn't he
visited me?
why haven't I gotten any signfrom the other side, like he
said he would?
And there you go, and uh, also,I do believe that some of the
emotions in life, uh, fear andlove, there's a lot more to it
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than just a word.
You know, a feeling soconnected, like you had with
your father, can go beyond thegrave, and that's and I say,
grave.
I even say that loosely becauseI I don't know about you, steve
, and I'd like to know youropinion on this.
While we're on this subject, Ibelieve that we're just a shell,
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that this is a shell and who weare.
Some kind of energy is in here.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Yeah, definitely 100% .
Now I have.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Christian beliefs, but I'm also very respectful of
other beliefs, because I don't Inever think that I have the end
all be all of belief systems.
That's just how I am.
You have people Muslim peoplethat also believe in spiritual
afterlife, so there's somethingto all of it.
You know it's just, it's not ageneralization, but so what is
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your take on that, on the, thespirit part of us?
What?
Or energy, what do you feelabout?
Speaker 4 (11:46):
what do you?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
feel happens to us, or what do you feel like we are?
Speaker 4 (11:51):
So I feel now.
I was raised Catholic All mylife.
I was raised to believe certainthings in the Catholic religion
.
As I got older, I ventured outinto other religions, just
because I've always been curious.
I don't feel like there's anyone right or wrong religion, as
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long as you have that belief.
Now, everybody does havedifferent views on what happens
when we pass on.
I, for one, feel the same wayyou do.
This is just a shell, forwhatever reason.
Our energy, our soul energy,whatever, whatever it does not
disappear, and it's a scientificfact that energy does not just
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go away.
So when we're, this shell isgone, we have to go somewhere
else.
There has to be something after, whether it's heaven or
becoming part of the universe orwhatever theory you believe in.
I mean, maybe maybe it's alltied into the same thing, maybe
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it's different for everybody,maybe, you know, maybe whatever
you believe is what happens toyourself and everybody goes to
that place that they believe in.
And I don't know, man, it justblows my mind to think that this
is it, this can't be it.
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There has to be something otherthan what happens we achieve
here in this life.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Well, if you see, if you look for instance, my
brother died a few years backand this is one of the few times
I've.
I mean, when you hear aboutthis sparkle in people's eyes,
there is a glint in your eye.
It's like a light.
It's truly a light, like if I'mtalking to you in person
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there's a light in your eye.
When you die, when you see adead body, I don't care, and
I've seen one right away as soonas they die, and I've also seen
one in a casket.
It doesn't matter, the light'sgone yeah it glazed, your eye
glazes over and there's no,there's no light anymore in that
(14:12):
eye.
To me, that's what some peoplecall it the soul, spirit,
whatever you want to call it Tome, I just like saying light,
because light is energy, andwhen a person is dead, when
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their body is just there as theshell, it's easy to look in the
face and like, oh, they're not.
You know, you can hug the body,you can do whatever you want.
They're not there anymore.
Now, a lot of people I've read alot on this stuff and people
talk about coming out of theirbody and when they have life
after death type stuff, they'llcome out of their body.
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And when they have, you know,after you know, death, life
after death type stuff, they'llcome out of their body and they
can see themselves, yep, andthey say, oh, I'm dead, because
they're out, they have releasedout of that shell.
It's time, for whatever reason,it's time to go.
Whether it's that, all of that,I can't explain either.
So we could spend and I wouldlove to talk to you again on
this we could spend hours onthis.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah, definitely Really.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Stephen.
But now I'd like to get into wetouched on kind of the
experience after death part, butyou being a paranormal
investigator, I want to, I don'twant to.
I want to get into, if you cangive me a couple of really great
stories, some of your favoritestories of places you've
(15:36):
investigated and where and whathappened in those places.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Okay, so firstly, probably one of the I don't want
to say it was crazy, butthere's a local restaurant here
that has been people say thatit's haunted.
It's called Blackbeard's.
Now we're on the coast, we'reon the Gulf Coast of Texas and
we have what is the what'scalled the USS Lexington.
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Right in front of that is thisold restaurant that's been there
ever since I can remember.
I'm 43 years old.
I remember that restaurantbeing there ever since I can
remember and it's right on thebeach and there everybody always
said it was haunted, it washaunted.
A bunch of paranormal teamshave been there and I finally
got the chance to go andinvestigate and it's just a
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restaurant and we're there andwe're, we're locked in overnight
and we're, we're, we're gettingsome activity, but not much,
nothing.
That that is that I can say.
Oh my God, that's paranormal.
Like you know, sensors aregoing off and we're getting
stuff here and there.
But my, my old teammate and Iwere in the women's bathroom and
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I have what is called an SLSdevice, which is a connect
sensor set up to a tablet, andI'm standing in the bathroom and
we all used to wear body camsand we had cameras set up
everywhere, so we tried to getevery.
We tried to get every anglethat we possibly could so that
if we did catch something,nobody could say, oh well,
somebody was standing off screenor somebody.
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We have every angle covered.
So there's there's no way tosay you guys fake that, right?
So I'm standing in the bathroomand on the SLS device Now,
normally you get figures thatare standing up and it looks
like they're, you know, walkingor just standing there this one
was laying on the floor in thebathroom, in the women's
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bathroom.
It looked like there was a stickfigure laying in the back
bathroom stall on the floor.
I'm standing there holding thedevice and I tell joe I'm like
hey, joe, like come check thisout.
And so he comes and he looksand he's like oh, wow, he's, I'm
gonna go over there.
So he goes over there and hestands right where this figure
is and he bends down and goeshey, wake up.
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As to like slap it.
Yeah, at that point on video,clear as day, you hear a woman
moan.
It went just like that.
And so Joe was like what thehell?
And I'm like what the hell?
I was like that was you.
He's like it wasn't me.
I was like who's in the stallbehind you?
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He's like nobody's here.
And I'm like, like are you sure?
And he's like I'm looking righthere, there's nobody here.
So there was one more stallright next to me.
The door was closed.
So I thought maybe one of ourother teammates were in there
messing around, because therewas times where we used to you
know, purposely joke around andtry to scare each other, but we
always let it be known on thefootage that, hey, you know,
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that was just so and so jokingaround, right?
Um?
So he tells me to open the doorand I said I'm not opening the
door.
You open the door, I have thecamera.
You open the door.
So he opens the door and we'reexpecting one of our other
teammates to be in there.
There was nobody in there.
The rest of the team wasupstairs in the attic trying to
get footage there.
There was nobody in there.
The rest of the team wasupstairs in the attic trying to
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get footage upstairs.
There was nobody else.
We didn't have any females withus.
Granted, you know, a male canmimic a woman's voice, but
neither of us did it.
The guys upstairs had no ideawhat was going on.
Everything was live stream onfacebook, along with the, the
cameras and stuff that we hadset up, so that right there I
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was like, okay, I can't explainthat.
Did you catch that on video?
We caught that on video.
I'll send it to you.
I'll send it to you an email.
Yeah, um, I, I still have the,the body cam video.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
I'm no longer part of that team and I still have my
where's a place people can go tosee that um, I don't think I
have that one up anywhere exceptfor my facebook page.
If you send it to me, I'll I'll.
I'll post it out, because, yeah, I'll send it to you and it was
really cool, man.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
And, like I said, you hear it clear as day, you hear
she just like the way, like justlike a moan, like a kind of
bone, it was just, it was weird.
So that that right there, I'mlike, okay, something is here
wasn't anything malicious,wasn't anything you know scary
or anything like that, but thereis definitely something there.
It is haunted.
Um, then another time, like Isaid, we we live stream
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everything from the time we getto the investigation to the time
we go to sleep.
There's times where I've evenlive streamed me sleeping, just
because you never know, right.
And so we were at YorktownMemorial Hospital, which is a
very well-known location inTexas.
It's about two and a half hoursaway from where I live and we
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go to this, this old hospitalthat was shut down, I believe,
in the eighties or nineties, andthere's no power in this place.
It was an old Catholic hospital, so it's got a huge chapel,
huge chapel.
And while we're sitting in thechapel, one of my old teammates,
mike, starts to get sick and asI'm filming him in it's sitting
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in one of the pews, he goes.
Ah, I'm like what happened?
He's like something, justsomething just scratched my face
, oh, and so I'm like okay, so Igo and I put my camera.
Mind you, like I said, cameraseverywhere yeah he didn't touch
his face, he didn't do anything.
Live on Facebook I go and he'sgot one scratch down the side of
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his face, and so a lot of timeswhen I was part of that team,
we would taunt spirits ifnothing was happening.
And that's what had happened.
We hadn't been getting anyevidence.
And so we're in the chapel andhe started taunting and we're
sitting there and he just startsgetting nauseous and he starts,
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you know, gagging like he'sgonna vomit.
And at that point I wearglasses.
I have to wear glasses.
I can't see a damn thing withoutglasses on in there too and so
I'm standing there filming mikeand all of a sudden the side of
my face just starts to get hot.
And so I told Joe.
I'm like, hey, come, come,shine the light on my face.
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And so he comes with the lightand he's like dude, you have
three huge scratches on yourface.
I'm like no way.
So I turned the camera around,and when I turn it around, this
this is live on Facebook as well.
Um, I don't think I everuploaded this one to youtube,
but it's.
You clearly see that on my face, from here to my cheek, there's
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three clear scratches.
Now the crazy part is, when Itake my glasses off, the scratch
did not, there wasn't a skip,it went all the way through my
glasses.
So whatever scratched me wentthrough the side of my glasses
as well, and it was just astraight scratch.
That's an interesting note yeah,and so that right there I
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didn't touch my face.
There was nobody around methere it it just happened.
It just started to get warm.
It didn't even feel like ascratch, like when somebody
scratches it.
That's not what it felt like.
It just felt like my face wasgetting warm steven, how did
that heal?
It, just it went away within.
I mean, they weren't deepscratches, yeah, they were just.
You know, like if, if somebodyjust kind of like ran their
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fingers across my face yeah andso within a, within a you know,
10-15 minutes, it was gone, butit happened, and it happened
live on camera uh, but it healednormally like a scratch would
normally heal yeah, yeah, itdidn't.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
I didn't have any scarring, no, nothing the reason
I say that is because, if youthink about it, you, you were in
your glasses, you, thescratches obviously went through
the, the, the frame, the holder, the ear holder.
There it obviously went, itwent under it like it.
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So, even though it was aphysical um, I don't know if I'd
call it an attack but aphysical altercation on your
face, the fingers or whateverwas used to do it, were the
molecular makeup of that.
Your glasses, the piece of yourglasses, didn't hinder it from
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going through.
And that's interesting to me.
I know, like you just said, youwould think that if someone
physical did it, obviouslythey're going to stop it to
where your glasses, your earholder, stops, and then go under
it, and if they want to finishthis, you'll have a gap.
Yeah, yeah, see, that's that.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Hmm, See, and I didn't feel my glasses move or
anything.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Yeah, that was you know, if I would have felt like
my glasses jiggle or something.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
I would have been like whoa, what the hell.
But, like I said, I didn't feelanything.
It just started to get warm,that's it.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
That was the only indication that anything even
happened, and the only reason Ieven paid attention to it was
because of what was happeningwith Mike.
How much longer did you guysstay in?
Speaker 4 (24:44):
there.
After that we spent the night.
We spent the night.
Every location that I go tothat we investigate, we spend
the night.
They're always overnightinvestigations investigate we?
Speaker 2 (24:53):
we spend the night.
They're always overnightinvestigations.
Did anything else happen?
Speaker 4 (24:55):
beside the scratches physically.
Um, that night I don't recallif anything else happened.
Uh, we went there five or sixtimes and if I you know, going
back so many times, thingshappen different times we've
heard things running down thehall that we thought there was
other people in the, in theactual hotel or hospital, I'm
sorry.
Um, we heard something runningtowards the hallway where we set
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up camp is in the, in the lobby, which is right in front, and
so that's where we would set upour base camp and set up our,
our, our little beds and stuff.
And we heard something runningdown the hallway and then it
just stopped.
So we all got up and we went togo.
Look, we found a family ofraccoons.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
So we kind of attributed it to the raccoons
you know.
So not everything that occurs inthat location is paranormal.
Just like in every location,not everything is paranormal,
and that was kind of my job onthe team at the time was to try
to figure out what it could bebefore we could say we have no
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idea, it's more than likelyparanormal, absolutely scared
the living piss out of me.
We were at the Mineral WellsHaunted Hill House, which is in
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North Texas, in Mineral Wells,and there's an old hotel there
called the Baker Hotel, whichwas it's this very well-known
paranormal location.
But nobody's allowed to go inthere anymore because they are
renovating it to reopen it.
It's been shut down for years,renovating it to reopen it.
It's been shut down for years.
It's been vandalized.
But right off to the side isthis old house that was built in
the late 1800s.
That was used as a brothel forthe hotel, so guests would go
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and stay at the hotel and thenmake their way to the house and
have their way.
So the house has a ton ofactivity.
There's there.
There's even a.
There's so much history in thathouse, so many different deaths
that occurred.
There is supposedly and I saysupposedly because I've never
(27:07):
seen it, I've heard it but I'venever seen it.
Uh, there's a demon that callshimself toby, um, but we're at
this house and this is, this iswith my new team.
I, I, my new team, is calledsomewhat supernatural as well.
I just kind of integrated itwith the same, you know, with
(27:27):
the podcast.
That way it's all the same.
Um.
So we're at the mineral wellshaunted hill house and it's
probably my fifth or sixth timegoing back there as well and
we're getting activity.
And that's the thing about thatlocation is, as soon as you
step in it doesn't have to benighttime you're gonna get
activity in that place 24 7 um.
(27:48):
It's one of the more hauntedlocations that I've been to.
The very first time I went there, we're sitting in the living
room, the lady's telling us thehistory of the house and we hear
an audible growl right in frontof us and so we were.
What the hell was that Likethat?
(28:09):
That freaked all of us out, youknow, and we were all big dudes
covered in tattoos, you know,and and that right there was
very unsettling.
But we went back there five orsix times and this most recent
investigation that I did withsomeone supernatural.
We're there and we're we'redoing investigations and I'm in
what's called the doll room andI'm in there by myself and I'm
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live.
I use restream to go livebecause I can use multiple
camera angles and as long as Ihave a wifi connection, so I
have all these different camerasset up in the room live
streaming, different camerasthat people can check out, you
know, with everything going onat the same time, in real time.
So I'm sitting on the bed andI'm talking because my friend's
(28:53):
wife had just had somethinghappen to her in the bathroom,
and as I'm sitting there talkingto the chat, I lean forward and
I feel something on my back,like it feels like somebody
rubbed their hand on my back,and so I turn around and when I
turn around there's a clown dollthat falls off.
I don't want to say it's aheadboard, because it's not a
(29:17):
headboard, it was a shelf thatis screwed into the wall that
the bed there.
There's about a two or threeinch gap between the bed and
this.
This shelf and this clown dolljust comes at me and, man, I
tell you what this is.
This one's on my tiktok, and somy tiktok is lord underscore
(29:37):
scuba cabra.
This video is on there.
You can go check it out ifanybody wants to watch it.
I became the fastest man alivebecause that caught me off guard
and I tell you, man, vulgaritystarted coming out of my mouth
and I just it freaked me outplus I go back down.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I don't know what it is about.
Clowns, well yeah clowns.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Clowns used to be my, my number one fear when I was a
kid, for some reason.
Um, but I go back and I watchthe footage because I'm like
there's no way, that justhappened, right.
So I'm watching the footage andin the footage you see me lean
forward, you see me sit up andI'm there, I'm not moving the
bed, the bed isn't moving.
I'm not making these, you know,jolty actions on the bed, and
(30:19):
when you see me turn around,that doll hasn't moved yet.
But I turn around because, likeI said, I felt something touch
my shoulder, right.
So when I turn around, you justsee that clown doll, like if
something pushed it off of theshelf, and so I even slowed it
down and slowed it down and didit, you know, just so people
could see I did not move thatdoll.
(30:41):
It was not the shaking, and soI put the doll back up, I get
back on the bed in the sameposition I'm in and I start
jumping on this bed and tryingto shake it up.
And that damn doll did not moveat all, so that right there,
I've, I've, I've had things moveon us, but while we're in
completely different rooms.
(31:02):
It's never happened in in the10 years that I've been doing
this.
Where it happened right behindme, and that was very unsettling
.
They had caught me off guard.
I usually try to be veryobservant of what's going on,
especially during investigations, and that one just caught me
off guard.
I didn't even think, oh well,maybe something behind me is
going to come flying at me andit just that right there.
(31:25):
It's funny now, but in themoment was absolutely terrifying
.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Oh man, yeah, I would have been like you if I had
turned around and a clown.
Not anything but the feeling ofsomeone on your back and then,
on top of everything, a clownjumping at you, a clown doll
Again.
I don't know what it is aboutclowns that freak me out too,
and a lot of people I have noidea.
(31:52):
But yeah, I'd been like you.
I would have.
I don't know how, I haven'ttested myself to see how fast I
can run, but I'm sure it wouldhave been impressive, yeah I'm a
big boy too and uh, yeah, I,like I said, I became the
fastest man alive that day.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
It was, uh, something else.
But, like I said, that locationhas a lot of stuff that's
happened um, instruments turnedon.
We, I have this music box thathas a sensor on it, so if
anything walks in front of it,that sensor goes off and it
starts making music and we'reall asleep.
We're all asleep downstairs andI wake up because this music
(32:27):
box is spinning fast and so Iwake up.
The other guys that are thatare asleep as well, and I'm like
hey, hey, listen.
And they're like what?
And I said, the music box isgoing off upstairs and that's
where toby's room is.
I put in quotations toby's roomthe the demon, that's, his
dedicated room is upstairs now,who says?
Speaker 2 (32:48):
who says this is a demon?
How did this come about?
This demon, toby, who?
Who found out about this?
Speaker 4 (32:53):
the owner of the house.
Um, there is a.
Um, there's actually a newsarticle on it that you can watch
on youtube.
Um, a group was thereinvestigating and they got the
name toby on one of theexperiments they were doing and
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that's just what they started.
Calling him was Toby and thename kept coming, kept coming,
so that's what they call him.
But there's also a photographthat one team caught of this
entity and it's not human.
Whatever it is, it is not humanat all.
(33:35):
It's very it's like they tookthe picture and he just decided
to pop his head in through thedoorway.
So it wasn't anything.
They were just taking pictures,taking pictures, and in one
photo he just kind of looks likehe's peeking his head out from
the side and you can tellwhatever it is is not human, so
that's why they attribute it tobeing a demon rather than a
(33:56):
ghost a normal ghost and so he'svery mischievous.
He's never attacked mepersonally, but he has scratched
people.
The team that actually caughtthat photo went back.
Actually, no, it was the ladythat got yanked off the bed.
So they have their ownsurveillance cameras in every
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single room.
And this lady's laying on thebed and she gets yanked off the
bed, and this was the catalystfor us.
Even going in the first placewas because I wanted to debunk
that.
Because, the way that it's setup, the room is set up and the
video that's taken, there's aman standing at the foot of the
bed.
So I in my head I'm like well,somebody could have been
(34:38):
crouched down in front of himthat we didn't see.
That yanked her off the bed.
So when we went and I saw thisroom in person, there's no way,
there's not enough space for theforce that yanked this lady off
the bed.
So that lady went back later onI don't know if it was months
or weeks, whatever she went backagain and she got scratched in
(35:00):
the same room and these weredeep scratches that were
actually bleeding, like she bledthrough her shirt.
Wow, yeah, so that, like I said, that's never occurred to me
there or or any of my teammembers, um, but there is
definitely a ton of activitythat takes place in this
location.
But back to the music box.
So the music box is going off.
(35:22):
We get up, turn the cameras onand this video is also on my Tik
TOok we go upstairs and when wefinally get upstairs, the music
box is actually facing theopposite direction of which we
set it down.
It wasn't facing towards thestairs, it was now facing away
from the stairs, and so when mybuddy tuck goes to turn it off,
(35:46):
he puts his finger on the switchand as soon as he his finger
barely touches the switch hehasn't even flipped the switch
the music box stops completelyand then he flicks it off.
But this thing was going at apace that it's never gone at
before, cause it makes the noise, you know.
But it's just a, it's just anormal pace tune.
This thing was going so fastand I've never heard it do it
(36:08):
since then like that, so thatthat right there, like I said,
there, there's tons of activitythat occurs in this, in this
location, and that right thereis probably one of my favorite
places to investigate you knowit's funny you say that about
the music box, the, the handleturning, uh, not normally or not
(36:29):
a lot as it would normally, butfast, faster than it would
normally turn.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
You know, I, I beside , I do a bunch of different
things in life, uh, but besideall the things I do, I'm also, I
have an electrical company andI, I love electricity.
So I've, I've dealt in thatworld for a while and
electricity, of course, is oneof the most powerful energies
(36:56):
that we have on earth, one ofthe most powerful think of
lightning.
You know, it's a natural energy, but if you take a, let's say
you take a ceiling fan that runsoff of a certain voltage
normally and you add too muchvoltage, it will automatically
start spinning.
It may ruin it, but it will.
(37:17):
Firstly, first of all, it willspin super fast.
Yeah, you'll be like holy shit,what just happened?
and you'll see it spinning, butthat's because too much voltage
has has been guided to that fan,a motor.
Yeah, I feel that way withspiritual energy as well.
Uh, like what you're talkingabout.
(37:38):
Sometimes it's so powerful itcan move things or make things
go faster.
Or even, because not every likeeverywhere you go, you don't
get it, you don't get physicallytouched, you don't get it, you
don't get physically touched,you don't get attacked, you
don't have things falling over.
It's just certain places.
So I feel like certain energies, whether it's demonic or just,
(38:00):
uh, some kind of entity afterdeath.
I'm not sure.
Sure, obviously I have no idea,but I think there are varying,
uh varying energies from fromthese things that we can't
explain, that are just morepowerful than others and they
can move things, they canscratch, they can do physical
(38:22):
harm to people.
That's another fascinating part, because not all of them do.
Is it because they can't?
I have no idea, but there's gotto be something to that.
I think we're, all you know,atoms, to get a little
scientific, everything's made upof atoms, everything,
everything's connected,everything's connected in this
(38:44):
world and I think the afterworld, it's everything's
connected somehow.
This world and I think the andafter world, it's.
Everything's connected somehow.
So it's amazing to me whenthose you know, the, the after
the, the energy afterlife andthe energy in this life meet,
yeah, and things happen likethis.
That's wow, man.
I could talk to you about thisstuff all day and I'd love to at
(39:05):
some point have you back andI'd be happy to be on yours too,
because we could talk aboutthis stuff.
I have a lot of experiences,but it's about you mostly.
Today I want to talk to you.
We're going to wrap it up fornow, but I want to wrap it up
with something fun, since yousaid you're into horror movies
(39:26):
and I ask people this whenthey're on here so give me your.
It's kind of hard.
It's hard for me, god.
I've seen so many and you couldgo to different, um man, you
could go to different uh erassilent films, man, there's a lot
of, there's a lot of goodhorror movies.
But if you were to name, if you, just if you were put on the
spot to name your top three,what would you say?
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Ooh, my top three.
Okay, so, and it's fluid, it'sfluid.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
for me, it changes all the time.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
Yeah, and that's the thing is with my.
My life is horror.
My living room is.
Let's do it this way.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Let's do it this way Ghost movie about a ghost, a
haunted house or whatever.
Let's start there.
What?
What's one of your favoritehaunted house?
We'll make it a little easieron you oh, uh, what was it
called?
Speaker 4 (40:16):
oh, my lord, um, what is it called?
Uh, the.
It's called the.
The name is slipping my mindright now.
It is about a woman who wasbeing it's called the entity.
That's what it's called.
Oh yeah, um, the entity I it.
It didn't age well, but I lovethat movie so much.
(40:39):
It's one of the first ghostmovies that I can remember
watching with my, with my dad,as a kid, but then finding out
that it was based on a truestory.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
That, that right there.
I absolutely love that movie,Um.
So the entity is probably mytop ghost film.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
That's a good one.
That's a good one.
Um, gore type movie, let's say,uh, gore fest type movie.
There's of those gore.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
Uh, I gotta go I gotta go with the new, the new
horror icon, uh, art the clown.
Anything with art the clown,that's gory.
And you know, uh, terrifiers,just it kicked it up, you know
it brought that kind of gore tothe mainstream, which is
something that had been missingfor mainstream horror for a long
(41:31):
time.
And so I feel that terror,especially with terrifier two,
that one just just went way overthe top.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
I haven't seen, I haven't seen that one yet.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
Yeah, that one.
It's kind of long and and, andsome people don't like it, but I
am the kind of person when Iwatch a horror movie I want to
have fun with it as well.
Yeah, and I, I love practicaleffects.
I dabble in practical effectsfor short films and stuff, and
so I, I I love what they didwith such a low budget and how
(42:08):
it became such a breakout filmthat it was able to spawn a
sequel, Exactly.
And now we're getting anothersequel.
So I got to go with Terrifieras my favorite gore movie.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
That's a good choice.
The first one.
I agree with you Great movie.
Not expecting much from thatone, but not for everyone.
Yeah, definitely.
But a lot of humor in there too, which is always cool, makes it
fun, you know it takes away thesting of the.
You know you can kind of yourmind can wrap around the gore
because you're like, okay, it's,it's also.
(42:38):
There's also a comic element tothe whole thing as well and a
heroic element with the girl.
You know the, and the music was,by the way, great soundtrack
for the first time.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
Awesome, oh the soundtrack was awesome.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Oh my God.
Yeah, it turned me on to a newgenre of music, actually.
And so now the final question,and we'll keep it on this topic,
because we said three moviesDemonic movie like the Exorcist,
something that has to do withdemons what would be one of the
(43:10):
top ones for you?
Speaker 4 (43:11):
You know, I would have to say it's probably.
What is it called?
The one with Russell Crowewhere he plays Father Gabriel
Lamar?
Speaker 2 (43:25):
I like that one.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
I thought that was good until the end.
The end got a little too.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Hollywood yeah, the end got.
They could have done the endingdifferent, but the whole
buildup and the fact that andthe fact, and it was.
I don't know if they've donethis before, I think they have,
but by the way, what was thename of that movie?
Oh my God, yeah, the name slipsme right now and it's one of my
(43:51):
favorite films.
Now, yeah, god, I can't.
Anyway, it was a great movie,but yeah, you're right, the end
got a little too cheesy, alittle too.
They, they went, they went tospecial effects at the end, and
it was the pope's exorcist, thepope's exorcist yeah, that was
good, and what I liked aboutthat one, too, is how this demon
said I want that guy.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
You know, yeah, I like it when there's like a
challenge and then, he's likelaughing and Russell Crowe was a
great fit for that role.
But you know they say I know wewere talking serious and now
we're talking movies.
But look, life imitates art.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
It does.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Art also imitates life.
You can't have one without theother.
Hey, man, it was great havingyou on today.
Speaker 4 (44:38):
I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Thank you Absolutely, David, and I I know he's.
I can tell he's been enthralledwith what you've been saying.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
Oh no.
I mean, I've definitely beenenthralled, but if people want
to follow you on social media,what are your handles on all the
social medias TikTok, instagram, all those?
Speaker 4 (45:06):
So my TikTok and my Instagram are Lord underscore
Scuba Cabra and on Facebook I amLord Scuba Cabra Vasquez, and
that those are the really theonly two and, of course, my
somewhat supernatural page, if.
If you're interested in thepodcast and the investigations,
that's where I live stream allof them.
The.
The podcast.
It used to be a live videopodcast and recently I started
(45:27):
just doing audio, shorteningthem down because I would get
people on.
You know, my buddies and Iwould get on and talk and we
would just go for an hour andget off topic, and so I just
kind of started bringing themdown, making shorter episodes
and just kind of sticking moreto the, the, the, the meat and
potatoes of the episode, asopposed to getting on and
(45:49):
bantering and stuff.
So that's where you guys canfollow me.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Well, that's amazing, hey, dude, to start out season
two with an episode like thiswith you.
I'm very glad we did thisbecause you have stories that we
could talk about and, like Isaid, I'd love to have you back.
I'd love to be on your podcast,because this kind of
conversation it's endless,there's so many.
(46:13):
There's so many things to getinto with it, but we want to
appreciate, we want to thank you.
We really appreciate you beingon here.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Steven, thanks so much no problem and we'll talk
to you later thanks for checkingout the sonic hitchhiker
podcast.
Follow us on instagram at sonichitchhiker podcast and get new
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Hitchhiker Podcast.
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episodes Wednesdays, whereveryou get your podcasts.
Welcome to the Sonic Hitchhiker podcast dedicated to
all things strange, mysteriousand just plain out of the
ordinary.
It is because of his interestin these experiences that this
podcast was created.
And now your host, billy Shadow.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Welcome everyone to season two of the sonic
hitchhiker podcast.
You know, david, season one hadplenty of guests that blew our
mind and that had so manyamazing stories in such a great
season.
Uh to for our first season ofthe sonic hitchhiker podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I thought it was great uh, yeah, I mean it was
definitely we had some greatguests, but I mean we had some
amazing guests booked and thisfirst episode that you're about
to hear, wow yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
That's all I got to say is wow, so get ready for
this first episode.
We have Steven Vasquez out ofTexas.
He is a paranormal investigator.
He'll tell you about that.
He also has a podcast as well.
He also has other social mediaplatforms and pages that he will
tell you about that you canfollow.
(01:12):
I can tell you this is going tobe a very interesting guest and
I really look forward totalking to him, and I know
David's looking forward tolistening to him as well, and I
hope all of you are.
So a little something to talkabout too.
As far as season two, we haveplenty of cool guests lined up
(01:32):
for the season.
Season two will also consist of10 episodes, and we are also
working on a little studio, anew studio that we will also at
some point do video podcastsfrom as well.
Not sure what part of theseason that will begin, but for
now, we are just going to enjoythe guests that we have lined up
(01:54):
, and we once again want tothank all of you guys for being
with us.
And if you haven't, if you havefriends that haven't heard
about the Sonic Hitchhikerpodcast and are into things that
we are talking about, pleasetell them, if you have anyone
that wants to be on the show,please reach out to us via our
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The Sonic Hitchhiker podcast.
(02:15):
And now we will talk to ourguest, stephen Vasquez.
Enjoy, stephen, you have you.
You are you a, you consideryourself or you are, you're, a
paranormal investigator.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Yeah, I, I've been, and by the way Steven's out of
Texas.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I'm right, yes, yes, out of.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
South Texas, corpus Christi, texas.
Yes, so I, I've been doing thisfor about 10 years.
Seriously, we've dabbled in itway before that.
I've always seen things that Icouldn't explain when I was as a
kid, and so when I became ateenager, my friends and I kind
of got together and we would goand go through cemeteries with
(02:58):
our little voice recorders andtry to just capture things with
our little video cameras, and wedidn't really know what we were
doing.
We just knew that we were outthere having fun, you know, and
I didn't start to take thisseriously until my father passed
away.
So when my father passed away,we would he was sick for a
(03:19):
really long time, but we wouldalways joke about when he passed
away that he would let me knowthat he was still around or that
there was something after, andso he passed away in 2016.
And I was already doinginvestigations here and there,
and you know, it was somethingthat he was very interested in.
He loved when I would go and doinvestigations, and so we would
(03:40):
sit there and we would talk andI would tell him everything
that happened, and he'd alwaystell me you know well, when I,
when I, die, I'm going to letyou know that there's something
on the other side.
That way, you get yourverification right then and
there.
So he passed away.
His uh, his anniversary isactually coming up, um, in a
couple of weeks and uh, but hepassed away June 13th of 2016.
(04:03):
But he passed away June 13th of2016.
And my sister, who she was closeto my dad, but she wasn't as
close as my dad and I.
My dad and I were best friendsfrom the day I was born, like I
was always his favorite.
He would always tell me all thetime You're my favorite, you're
my favorite.
I'm like, stop saying that.
You can't say that in front ofmy brother and sister you know,
they get kind of what about us,you know?
but I stuck by my dad, you know,through thick and thin, and
(04:27):
when my parents got divorced, Istayed with him.
My brother and sister went withmy mom, but he passed away, and
so I started to think, well,what the hell?
He would always tell me that hewould let me know that he was
(04:50):
around, and I didn't getanything.
A few months passed, nothing,nothing, nothing.
And my sister's posting thisstuff on Facebook and I'm just
like, whatever, whatever, you'renot seeing nothing, whatever.
But then one night I am gettingready for bed and my ex-wife,
the way we used to sleep on thebed, she would sleep on the edge
(05:10):
of the bed and I slept by thewall, so she's already asleep.
I climb into bed tv's still on.
Haven't even gotten, you know,haven't even gotten to that
point where I'm dozing off.
I roll over, she's got one armunder her head and her other arm
is on her side and she's facingaway from me.
She's facing towards, you know,the door, yeah.
And so I just kind of lay down,I roll over and I put my arm
(05:32):
over her and I feel a hand touchmy hand.
Oh boy, she didn't move.
Okay, so it happens so fast.
I'm getting chills talking aboutit right now and every time I
talk about this I get chills andI envision it.
But it felt it was only a splitsecond, but it felt like it
(05:55):
lasted forever.
All of my sadness, all of myanger, all of my depression in
that moment was gone, wow, and Ifelt the roughness in his hands
, like I held his hands almostuntil he took his last breath,
which is another story I'm goingto.
That leads into this.
But I felt, I felt theroughness of his hands.
(06:17):
You know, before he got sick,he worked in the oil field, so
he had these rough hands, youknow, and I felt it, and I felt
that feeling like everything'sgoing to be okay.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Was there an energy, almost like a energy that flowed
through you at that same moment?
It?
Speaker 4 (06:35):
did, because the same kind of chills that I'm getting
right now talking about it andthat I get every time I talk
about it.
It's the same kind of feelingthat I got.
I knew it wasn't my ex-wife, Iknew it wasn't her.
And so I sit up and I look overand, mind you, I had just
closed my eyes, like I put myarm over her, had just closed my
eyes, and I felt it likeinstantly.
(06:56):
And so I sit up and I look andshe hasn't moved.
Her arm is still under her head, the other arm you know her
other arm still at her head.
The other hand, you know, herother arm still at her side.
And I'm sitting there and I'mjust like in disbelief at what
just happened.
And so I kind of shove her andshe's like what the hell?
And like wake up.
Like dad was just here andshe's like what?
And I said dad was just here,he held my hand.
(07:17):
From that point forward is whenI started taking paranormal
investigations seriously.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
That right.
There was my verification thatI needed that what I was doing
isn't just for nothing.
There is something out there.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Well, stephen, here's the deal with that for me.
Here's why this interests me.
First of all, whether anyoneadmits it or not, I believe that
most people have to believethat there is something more,
because there are too manystories out there, like yours,
(07:58):
like mine, like so many otherpeople I know it's.
It's kind of like it's let's.
It's kind of like when someoneis accused let's say someone's
accused of beating someone up,they're like oh, that guy's not
violent.
Then you have 10 more storiesof someone saying, yeah, he beat
me up too.
You're like whoa, wait a minute.
You're like well, I still don'tknow if I believe it.
Then there's 20, then there's30.
(08:18):
Oh, you know, like the billcosby thing, oh you know, what,
even if there's one that's,there's something to it.
I feel that way about paranormalactivities and ghosts.
I feel that way about ufos.
I feel that way because, okay,a handful of instances, even,
let's say, even a couple ofhundred, or whatever in the
(08:39):
scheme of things, in the schemeof the world, but when you get
thousands upon millions of thesestories all over the place,
look, they're not all fake,there's something to it so that
that drives me, um, yeah, in oneof my earlier episodes I won't
go into it the one of the things, too, that that I'm interested
(09:00):
in this, for I've seen thingswhen I was a kid as well.
Uh, especially one instancethat really has stuck with me
all these years, and I also hadmy, one of my ex-wives.
We had two dogs and one of thedogs that we put down it made me
think of this with your storyabout your dad and that brush
with the hand uh, one of thedogs that we were, we were close
(09:22):
to both, they were just likethey're like kids, you know,
pets become like children andone.
We had to put them both downeventually, but the first one we
put down, uh, he came back tovisit us the night after just
one night.
I thought it was me.
Then he went to my wife at thetime and she started crying.
I said what happened?
She said, uh, boston, the dogjust came.
(09:44):
It just came in my room andbrushed up against me.
So that was very real.
Yeah, so you know what's goingon.
There's no doubt in your mind,so that I really have a huge
interest in this thing and Ilove hearing stories like the
one you just told, which is veryreal.
And see, here's another thingpeople, there's a stigma.
(10:04):
There's a stigma put on a lotof paranormal activity or or
ghosts, spirits, but it's notalways a fearful thing.
In your case, it was comforting.
In your case, having your dadfrom beyond or another dimension
.
However, this is once we leavethis life.
Rub his hand to let you know.
You know, this is me and itgave you such a feeling of,
(10:30):
would you say, peace and it didyeah yeah I mean, like I said,
yeah, you wonder, and youwondered too why hasn't he
visited me?
why haven't I gotten any signfrom the other side, like he
said he would?
And there you go, and uh, also,I do believe that some of the
emotions in life, uh, fear andlove, there's a lot more to it
(10:50):
than just a word.
You know, a feeling soconnected, like you had with
your father, can go beyond thegrave, and that's and I say,
grave.
I even say that loosely becauseI I don't know about you, steve
, and I'd like to know youropinion on this.
While we're on this subject, Ibelieve that we're just a shell,
(11:10):
that this is a shell and who weare.
Some kind of energy is in here.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Yeah, definitely 100% .
Now I have.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Christian beliefs, but I'm also very respectful of
other beliefs, because I don't Inever think that I have the end
all be all of belief systems.
That's just how I am.
You have people Muslim peoplethat also believe in spiritual
afterlife, so there's somethingto all of it.
You know it's just, it's not ageneralization, but so what is
(11:40):
your take on that, on the, thespirit part of us?
What?
Or energy, what do you feelabout?
Speaker 4 (11:46):
what do you?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
feel happens to us, or what do you feel like we are?
Speaker 4 (11:51):
So I feel now.
I was raised Catholic All mylife.
I was raised to believe certainthings in the Catholic religion
.
As I got older, I ventured outinto other religions, just
because I've always been curious.
I don't feel like there's anyone right or wrong religion, as
(12:17):
long as you have that belief.
Now, everybody does havedifferent views on what happens
when we pass on.
I, for one, feel the same wayyou do.
This is just a shell, forwhatever reason.
Our energy, our soul energy,whatever, whatever it does not
disappear, and it's a scientificfact that energy does not just
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go away.
So when we're, this shell isgone, we have to go somewhere
else.
There has to be something after, whether it's heaven or
becoming part of the universe orwhatever theory you believe in.
I mean, maybe maybe it's alltied into the same thing, maybe
(13:02):
it's different for everybody,maybe, you know, maybe whatever
you believe is what happens toyourself and everybody goes to
that place that they believe in.
And I don't know, man, it justblows my mind to think that this
is it, this can't be it.
(13:23):
There has to be something otherthan what happens we achieve
here in this life.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Well, if you see, if you look for instance, my
brother died a few years backand this is one of the few times
I've.
I mean, when you hear aboutthis sparkle in people's eyes,
there is a glint in your eye.
It's like a light.
It's truly a light, like if I'mtalking to you in person
(13:52):
there's a light in your eye.
When you die, when you see adead body, I don't care, and
I've seen one right away as soonas they die, and I've also seen
one in a casket.
It doesn't matter, the light'sgone yeah it glazed, your eye
glazes over and there's no,there's no light anymore in that
(14:12):
eye.
To me, that's what some peoplecall it the soul, spirit,
whatever you want to call it Tome, I just like saying light,
because light is energy, andwhen a person is dead, when
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their body is just there as theshell, it's easy to look in the
face and like, oh, they're not.
You know, you can hug the body,you can do whatever you want.
They're not there anymore.
Now, a lot of people I've read alot on this stuff and people
talk about coming out of theirbody and when they have life
after death type stuff, they'llcome out of their body.
(14:53):
And when they have, you know,after you know, death, life
after death type stuff, they'llcome out of their body and they
can see themselves, yep, andthey say, oh, I'm dead, because
they're out, they have releasedout of that shell.
It's time, for whatever reason,it's time to go.
Whether it's that, all of that,I can't explain either.
So we could spend and I wouldlove to talk to you again on
this we could spend hours onthis.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah, definitely Really.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Stephen.
But now I'd like to get into wetouched on kind of the
experience after death part, butyou being a paranormal
investigator, I want to, I don'twant to.
I want to get into, if you cangive me a couple of really great
stories, some of your favoritestories of places you've
(15:36):
investigated and where and whathappened in those places.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Okay, so firstly, probably one of the I don't want
to say it was crazy, butthere's a local restaurant here
that has been people say thatit's haunted.
It's called Blackbeard's.
Now we're on the coast, we'reon the Gulf Coast of Texas and
we have what is the what'scalled the USS Lexington.
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Right in front of that is thisold restaurant that's been there
ever since I can remember.
I'm 43 years old.
I remember that restaurantbeing there ever since I can
remember and it's right on thebeach and there everybody always
said it was haunted, it washaunted.
A bunch of paranormal teamshave been there and I finally
got the chance to go andinvestigate and it's just a
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restaurant and we're there andwe're, we're locked in overnight
and we're, we're, we're gettingsome activity, but not much,
nothing.
That that is that I can say.
Oh my God, that's paranormal.
Like you know, sensors aregoing off and we're getting
stuff here and there.
But my, my old teammate and Iwere in the women's bathroom and
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I have what is called an SLSdevice, which is a connect
sensor set up to a tablet, andI'm standing in the bathroom and
we all used to wear body camsand we had cameras set up
everywhere, so we tried to getevery.
We tried to get every anglethat we possibly could so that
if we did catch something,nobody could say, oh well,
somebody was standing off screenor somebody.
(17:08):
We have every angle covered.
So there's there's no way tosay you guys fake that, right?
So I'm standing in the bathroomand on the SLS device Now,
normally you get figures thatare standing up and it looks
like they're, you know, walkingor just standing there this one
was laying on the floor in thebathroom, in the women's
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bathroom.
It looked like there was a stickfigure laying in the back
bathroom stall on the floor.
I'm standing there holding thedevice and I tell joe I'm like
hey, joe, like come check thisout.
And so he comes and he looksand he's like oh, wow, he's, I'm
gonna go over there.
So he goes over there and hestands right where this figure
is and he bends down and goeshey, wake up.
(17:50):
As to like slap it.
Yeah, at that point on video,clear as day, you hear a woman
moan.
It went just like that.
And so Joe was like what thehell?
And I'm like what the hell?
I was like that was you.
He's like it wasn't me.
I was like who's in the stallbehind you?
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He's like nobody's here.
And I'm like, like are you sure?
And he's like I'm looking righthere, there's nobody here.
So there was one more stallright next to me.
The door was closed.
So I thought maybe one of ourother teammates were in there
messing around, because therewas times where we used to you
know, purposely joke around andtry to scare each other, but we
always let it be known on thefootage that, hey, you know,
(18:33):
that was just so and so jokingaround, right?
Um?
So he tells me to open the doorand I said I'm not opening the
door.
You open the door, I have thecamera.
You open the door.
So he opens the door and we'reexpecting one of our other
teammates to be in there.
There was nobody in there.
The rest of the team wasupstairs in the attic trying to
get footage there.
There was nobody in there.
The rest of the team wasupstairs in the attic trying to
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get footage upstairs.
There was nobody else.
We didn't have any females withus.
Granted, you know, a male canmimic a woman's voice, but
neither of us did it.
The guys upstairs had no ideawhat was going on.
Everything was live stream onfacebook, along with the, the
cameras and stuff that we hadset up, so that right there I
(19:17):
was like, okay, I can't explainthat.
Did you catch that on video?
We caught that on video.
I'll send it to you.
I'll send it to you an email.
Yeah, um, I, I still have the,the body cam video.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
I'm no longer part of that team and I still have my
where's a place people can go tosee that um, I don't think I
have that one up anywhere exceptfor my facebook page.
If you send it to me, I'll I'll.
I'll post it out, because, yeah, I'll send it to you and it was
really cool, man.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
And, like I said, you hear it clear as day, you hear
she just like the way, like justlike a moan, like a kind of
bone, it was just, it was weird.
So that that right there, I'mlike, okay, something is here
wasn't anything malicious,wasn't anything you know scary
or anything like that, but thereis definitely something there.
It is haunted.
Um, then another time, like Isaid, we we live stream
(20:08):
everything from the time we getto the investigation to the time
we go to sleep.
There's times where I've evenlive streamed me sleeping, just
because you never know, right.
And so we were at YorktownMemorial Hospital, which is a
very well-known location inTexas.
It's about two and a half hoursaway from where I live and we
(20:30):
go to this, this old hospitalthat was shut down, I believe,
in the eighties or nineties, andthere's no power in this place.
It was an old Catholic hospital, so it's got a huge chapel,
huge chapel.
And while we're sitting in thechapel, one of my old teammates,
mike, starts to get sick and asI'm filming him in it's sitting
(20:54):
in one of the pews, he goes.
Ah, I'm like what happened?
He's like something, justsomething just scratched my face
, oh, and so I'm like okay, so Igo and I put my camera.
Mind you, like I said, cameraseverywhere yeah he didn't touch
his face, he didn't do anything.
Live on Facebook I go and he'sgot one scratch down the side of
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his face, and so a lot of timeswhen I was part of that team,
we would taunt spirits ifnothing was happening.
And that's what had happened.
We hadn't been getting anyevidence.
And so we're in the chapel andhe started taunting and we're
sitting there and he just startsgetting nauseous and he starts,
(21:36):
you know, gagging like he'sgonna vomit.
And at that point I wearglasses.
I have to wear glasses.
I can't see a damn thing withoutglasses on in there too and so
I'm standing there filming mikeand all of a sudden the side of
my face just starts to get hot.
And so I told Joe.
I'm like, hey, come, come,shine the light on my face.
(21:57):
And so he comes with the lightand he's like dude, you have
three huge scratches on yourface.
I'm like no way.
So I turned the camera around,and when I turn it around, this
this is live on Facebook as well.
Um, I don't think I everuploaded this one to youtube,
but it's.
You clearly see that on my face, from here to my cheek, there's
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three clear scratches.
Now the crazy part is, when Itake my glasses off, the scratch
did not, there wasn't a skip,it went all the way through my
glasses.
So whatever scratched me wentthrough the side of my glasses
as well, and it was just astraight scratch.
That's an interesting note yeah,and so that right there I
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didn't touch my face.
There was nobody around methere it it just happened.
It just started to get warm.
It didn't even feel like ascratch, like when somebody
scratches it.
That's not what it felt like.
It just felt like my face wasgetting warm steven, how did
that heal?
It, just it went away within.
I mean, they weren't deepscratches, yeah, they were just.
You know, like if, if somebodyjust kind of like ran their
(23:03):
fingers across my face yeah andso within a, within a you know,
10-15 minutes, it was gone, butit happened, and it happened
live on camera uh, but it healednormally like a scratch would
normally heal yeah, yeah, itdidn't.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
I didn't have any scarring, no, nothing the reason
I say that is because, if youthink about it, you, you were in
your glasses, you, thescratches obviously went through
the, the, the frame, the holder, the ear holder.
There it obviously went, itwent under it like it.
(23:37):
So, even though it was aphysical um, I don't know if I'd
call it an attack but aphysical altercation on your
face, the fingers or whateverwas used to do it, were the
molecular makeup of that.
Your glasses, the piece of yourglasses, didn't hinder it from
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going through.
And that's interesting to me.
I know, like you just said, youwould think that if someone
physical did it, obviouslythey're going to stop it to
where your glasses, your earholder, stops, and then go under
it, and if they want to finishthis, you'll have a gap.
Yeah, yeah, see, that's that.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Hmm, See, and I didn't feel my glasses move or
anything.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Yeah, that was you know, if I would have felt like
my glasses jiggle or something.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
I would have been like whoa, what the hell.
But, like I said, I didn't feelanything.
It just started to get warm,that's it.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
That was the only indication that anything even
happened, and the only reason Ieven paid attention to it was
because of what was happeningwith Mike.
How much longer did you guysstay in?
Speaker 4 (24:44):
there.
After that we spent the night.
We spent the night.
Every location that I go tothat we investigate, we spend
the night.
They're always overnightinvestigations investigate we?
Speaker 2 (24:53):
we spend the night.
They're always overnightinvestigations.
Did anything else happen?
Speaker 4 (24:55):
beside the scratches physically.
Um, that night I don't recallif anything else happened.
Uh, we went there five or sixtimes and if I you know, going
back so many times, thingshappen different times we've
heard things running down thehall that we thought there was
other people in the, in theactual hotel or hospital, I'm
sorry.
Um, we heard something runningtowards the hallway where we set
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up camp is in the, in the lobby, which is right in front, and
so that's where we would set upour base camp and set up our,
our, our little beds and stuff.
And we heard something runningdown the hallway and then it
just stopped.
So we all got up and we went togo.
Look, we found a family ofraccoons.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
So we kind of attributed it to the raccoons
you know.
So not everything that occurs inthat location is paranormal.
Just like in every location,not everything is paranormal,
and that was kind of my job onthe team at the time was to try
to figure out what it could bebefore we could say we have no
(26:00):
idea, it's more than likelyparanormal, absolutely scared
the living piss out of me.
We were at the Mineral WellsHaunted Hill House, which is in
(26:22):
North Texas, in Mineral Wells,and there's an old hotel there
called the Baker Hotel, whichwas it's this very well-known
paranormal location.
But nobody's allowed to go inthere anymore because they are
renovating it to reopen it.
It's been shut down for years,renovating it to reopen it.
It's been shut down for years.
It's been vandalized.
But right off to the side isthis old house that was built in
the late 1800s.
That was used as a brothel forthe hotel, so guests would go
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and stay at the hotel and thenmake their way to the house and
have their way.
So the house has a ton ofactivity.
There's there.
There's even a.
There's so much history in thathouse, so many different deaths
that occurred.
There is supposedly and I saysupposedly because I've never
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seen it, I've heard it but I'venever seen it.
Uh, there's a demon that callshimself toby, um, but we're at
this house and this is, this iswith my new team.
I, I, my new team, is calledsomewhat supernatural as well.
I just kind of integrated itwith the same, you know, with
(27:27):
the podcast.
That way it's all the same.
Um.
So we're at the mineral wellshaunted hill house and it's
probably my fifth or sixth timegoing back there as well and
we're getting activity.
And that's the thing about thatlocation is, as soon as you
step in it doesn't have to benighttime you're gonna get
activity in that place 24 7 um.
(27:48):
It's one of the more hauntedlocations that I've been to.
The very first time I went there, we're sitting in the living
room, the lady's telling us thehistory of the house and we hear
an audible growl right in frontof us and so we were.
What the hell was that Likethat?
(28:09):
That freaked all of us out, youknow, and we were all big dudes
covered in tattoos, you know,and and that right there was
very unsettling.
But we went back there five orsix times and this most recent
investigation that I did withsomeone supernatural.
We're there and we're we'redoing investigations and I'm in
what's called the doll room andI'm in there by myself and I'm
(28:30):
live.
I use restream to go livebecause I can use multiple
camera angles and as long as Ihave a wifi connection, so I
have all these different camerasset up in the room live
streaming, different camerasthat people can check out, you
know, with everything going onat the same time, in real time.
So I'm sitting on the bed andI'm talking because my friend's
(28:53):
wife had just had somethinghappen to her in the bathroom,
and as I'm sitting there talkingto the chat, I lean forward and
I feel something on my back,like it feels like somebody
rubbed their hand on my back,and so I turn around and when I
turn around there's a clown dollthat falls off.
I don't want to say it's aheadboard, because it's not a
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headboard, it was a shelf thatis screwed into the wall that
the bed there.
There's about a two or threeinch gap between the bed and
this.
This shelf and this clown dolljust comes at me and, man, I
tell you what this is.
This one's on my tiktok, and somy tiktok is lord underscore
(29:37):
scuba cabra.
This video is on there.
You can go check it out ifanybody wants to watch it.
I became the fastest man alivebecause that caught me off guard
and I tell you, man, vulgaritystarted coming out of my mouth
and I just it freaked me outplus I go back down.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I don't know what it is about.
Clowns, well yeah clowns.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Clowns used to be my, my number one fear when I was a
kid, for some reason.
Um, but I go back and I watchthe footage because I'm like
there's no way, that justhappened, right.
So I'm watching the footage andin the footage you see me lean
forward, you see me sit up andI'm there, I'm not moving the
bed, the bed isn't moving.
I'm not making these, you know,jolty actions on the bed, and
(30:19):
when you see me turn around,that doll hasn't moved yet.
But I turn around because, likeI said, I felt something touch
my shoulder, right.
So when I turn around, you justsee that clown doll, like if
something pushed it off of theshelf, and so I even slowed it
down and slowed it down and didit, you know, just so people
could see I did not move thatdoll.
(30:41):
It was not the shaking, and soI put the doll back up, I get
back on the bed in the sameposition I'm in and I start
jumping on this bed and tryingto shake it up.
And that damn doll did not moveat all, so that right there,
I've, I've, I've had things moveon us, but while we're in
completely different rooms.
(31:02):
It's never happened in in the10 years that I've been doing
this.
Where it happened right behindme, and that was very unsettling
.
They had caught me off guard.
I usually try to be veryobservant of what's going on,
especially during investigations, and that one just caught me
off guard.
I didn't even think, oh well,maybe something behind me is
going to come flying at me andit just that right there.
(31:25):
It's funny now, but in themoment was absolutely terrifying
.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Oh man, yeah, I would have been like you if I had
turned around and a clown.
Not anything but the feeling ofsomeone on your back and then,
on top of everything, a clownjumping at you, a clown doll
Again.
I don't know what it is aboutclowns that freak me out too,
and a lot of people I have noidea.
(31:52):
But yeah, I'd been like you.
I would have.
I don't know how, I haven'ttested myself to see how fast I
can run, but I'm sure it wouldhave been impressive, yeah I'm a
big boy too and uh, yeah, I,like I said, I became the
fastest man alive that day.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
It was, uh, something else.
But, like I said, that locationhas a lot of stuff that's
happened um, instruments turnedon.
We, I have this music box thathas a sensor on it, so if
anything walks in front of it,that sensor goes off and it
starts making music and we'reall asleep.
We're all asleep downstairs andI wake up because this music
(32:27):
box is spinning fast and so Iwake up.
The other guys that are thatare asleep as well, and I'm like
hey, hey, listen.
And they're like what?
And I said, the music box isgoing off upstairs and that's
where toby's room is.
I put in quotations toby's roomthe the demon, that's, his
dedicated room is upstairs now,who says?
Speaker 2 (32:48):
who says this is a demon?
How did this come about?
This demon, toby, who?
Who found out about this?
Speaker 4 (32:53):
the owner of the house.
Um, there is a.
Um, there's actually a newsarticle on it that you can watch
on youtube.
Um, a group was thereinvestigating and they got the
name toby on one of theexperiments they were doing and
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that's just what they started.
Calling him was Toby and thename kept coming, kept coming,
so that's what they call him.
But there's also a photographthat one team caught of this
entity and it's not human.
Whatever it is, it is not humanat all.
(33:35):
It's very it's like they tookthe picture and he just decided
to pop his head in through thedoorway.
So it wasn't anything.
They were just taking pictures,taking pictures, and in one
photo he just kind of looks likehe's peeking his head out from
the side and you can tellwhatever it is is not human, so
that's why they attribute it tobeing a demon rather than a
(33:56):
ghost a normal ghost and so he'svery mischievous.
He's never attacked mepersonally, but he has scratched
people.
The team that actually caughtthat photo went back.
Actually, no, it was the ladythat got yanked off the bed.
So they have their ownsurveillance cameras in every
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single room.
And this lady's laying on thebed and she gets yanked off the
bed, and this was the catalystfor us.
Even going in the first placewas because I wanted to debunk
that.
Because, the way that it's setup, the room is set up and the
video that's taken, there's aman standing at the foot of the
bed.
So I in my head I'm like well,somebody could have been
(34:38):
crouched down in front of himthat we didn't see.
That yanked her off the bed.
So when we went and I saw thisroom in person, there's no way,
there's not enough space for theforce that yanked this lady off
the bed.
So that lady went back later onI don't know if it was months
or weeks, whatever she went backagain and she got scratched in
(35:00):
the same room and these weredeep scratches that were
actually bleeding, like she bledthrough her shirt.
Wow, yeah, so that, like I said, that's never occurred to me
there or or any of my teammembers, um, but there is
definitely a ton of activitythat takes place in this
location.
But back to the music box.
So the music box is going off.
(35:22):
We get up, turn the cameras onand this video is also on my Tik
TOok we go upstairs and when wefinally get upstairs, the music
box is actually facing theopposite direction of which we
set it down.
It wasn't facing towards thestairs, it was now facing away
from the stairs, and so when mybuddy tuck goes to turn it off,
(35:46):
he puts his finger on the switchand as soon as he his finger
barely touches the switch hehasn't even flipped the switch
the music box stops completelyand then he flicks it off.
But this thing was going at apace that it's never gone at
before, cause it makes the noise, you know.
But it's just a, it's just anormal pace tune.
This thing was going so fastand I've never heard it do it
(36:08):
since then like that, so thatthat right there, like I said,
there, there's tons of activitythat occurs in this, in this
location, and that right thereis probably one of my favorite
places to investigate you knowit's funny you say that about
the music box, the, the handleturning, uh, not normally or not
(36:29):
a lot as it would normally, butfast, faster than it would
normally turn.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
You know, I, I beside , I do a bunch of different
things in life, uh, but besideall the things I do, I'm also, I
have an electrical company andI, I love electricity.
So I've, I've dealt in thatworld for a while and
electricity, of course, is oneof the most powerful energies
(36:56):
that we have on earth, one ofthe most powerful think of
lightning.
You know, it's a natural energy, but if you take a, let's say
you take a ceiling fan that runsoff of a certain voltage
normally and you add too muchvoltage, it will automatically
start spinning.
It may ruin it, but it will.
(37:17):
Firstly, first of all, it willspin super fast.
Yeah, you'll be like holy shit,what just happened?
and you'll see it spinning, butthat's because too much voltage
has has been guided to that fan,a motor.
Yeah, I feel that way withspiritual energy as well.
Uh, like what you're talkingabout.
(37:38):
Sometimes it's so powerful itcan move things or make things
go faster.
Or even, because not every likeeverywhere you go, you don't
get it, you don't get physicallytouched, you don't get it, you
don't get physically touched,you don't get attacked, you
don't have things falling over.
It's just certain places.
So I feel like certain energies, whether it's demonic or just,
(38:00):
uh, some kind of entity afterdeath.
I'm not sure.
Sure, obviously I have no idea,but I think there are varying,
uh varying energies from fromthese things that we can't
explain, that are just morepowerful than others and they
can move things, they canscratch, they can do physical
(38:22):
harm to people.
That's another fascinating part, because not all of them do.
Is it because they can't?
I have no idea, but there's gotto be something to that.
I think we're, all you know,atoms, to get a little
scientific, everything's made upof atoms, everything,
everything's connected,everything's connected in this
(38:44):
world and I think the afterworld, it's everything's
connected somehow.
This world and I think the andafter world, it's.
Everything's connected somehow.
So it's amazing to me whenthose you know, the, the after
the, the energy afterlife andthe energy in this life meet,
yeah, and things happen likethis.
That's wow, man.
I could talk to you about thisstuff all day and I'd love to at
(39:05):
some point have you back andI'd be happy to be on yours too,
because we could talk aboutthis stuff.
I have a lot of experiences,but it's about you mostly.
Today I want to talk to you.
We're going to wrap it up fornow, but I want to wrap it up
with something fun, since yousaid you're into horror movies
(39:26):
and I ask people this whenthey're on here so give me your.
It's kind of hard.
It's hard for me, god.
I've seen so many and you couldgo to different, um man, you
could go to different uh erassilent films, man, there's a lot
of, there's a lot of goodhorror movies.
But if you were to name, if you, just if you were put on the
spot to name your top three,what would you say?
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Ooh, my top three.
Okay, so, and it's fluid, it'sfluid.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
for me, it changes all the time.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
Yeah, and that's the thing is with my.
My life is horror.
My living room is.
Let's do it this way.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Let's do it this way Ghost movie about a ghost, a
haunted house or whatever.
Let's start there.
What?
What's one of your favoritehaunted house?
We'll make it a little easieron you oh, uh, what was it
called?
Speaker 4 (40:16):
oh, my lord, um, what is it called?
Uh, the.
It's called the.
The name is slipping my mindright now.
It is about a woman who wasbeing it's called the entity.
That's what it's called.
Oh yeah, um, the entity I it.
It didn't age well, but I lovethat movie so much.
(40:39):
It's one of the first ghostmovies that I can remember
watching with my, with my dad,as a kid, but then finding out
that it was based on a truestory.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
That, that right there.
I absolutely love that movie,Um.
So the entity is probably mytop ghost film.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
That's a good one.
That's a good one.
Um, gore type movie, let's say,uh, gore fest type movie.
There's of those gore.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
Uh, I gotta go I gotta go with the new, the new
horror icon, uh, art the clown.
Anything with art the clown,that's gory.
And you know, uh, terrifiers,just it kicked it up, you know
it brought that kind of gore tothe mainstream, which is
something that had been missingfor mainstream horror for a long
(41:31):
time.
And so I feel that terror,especially with terrifier two,
that one just just went way overthe top.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
I haven't seen, I haven't seen that one yet.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
Yeah, that one.
It's kind of long and and, andsome people don't like it, but I
am the kind of person when Iwatch a horror movie I want to
have fun with it as well.
Yeah, and I, I love practicaleffects.
I dabble in practical effectsfor short films and stuff, and
so I, I I love what they didwith such a low budget and how
(42:08):
it became such a breakout filmthat it was able to spawn a
sequel, Exactly.
And now we're getting anothersequel.
So I got to go with Terrifieras my favorite gore movie.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
That's a good choice.
The first one.
I agree with you Great movie.
Not expecting much from thatone, but not for everyone.
Yeah, definitely.
But a lot of humor in there too, which is always cool, makes it
fun, you know it takes away thesting of the.
You know you can kind of yourmind can wrap around the gore
because you're like, okay, it's,it's also.
(42:38):
There's also a comic element tothe whole thing as well and a
heroic element with the girl.
You know the, and the music was,by the way, great soundtrack
for the first time.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
Awesome, oh the soundtrack was awesome.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Oh my God.
Yeah, it turned me on to a newgenre of music, actually.
And so now the final question,and we'll keep it on this topic,
because we said three moviesDemonic movie like the Exorcist,
something that has to do withdemons what would be one of the
(43:10):
top ones for you?
Speaker 4 (43:11):
You know, I would have to say it's probably.
What is it called?
The one with Russell Crowewhere he plays Father Gabriel
Lamar?
Speaker 2 (43:25):
I like that one.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
I thought that was good until the end.
The end got a little too.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Hollywood yeah, the end got.
They could have done the endingdifferent, but the whole
buildup and the fact that andthe fact, and it was.
I don't know if they've donethis before, I think they have,
but by the way, what was thename of that movie?
Oh my God, yeah, the name slipsme right now and it's one of my
(43:51):
favorite films.
Now, yeah, god, I can't.
Anyway, it was a great movie,but yeah, you're right, the end
got a little too cheesy, alittle too.
They, they went, they went tospecial effects at the end, and
it was the pope's exorcist, thepope's exorcist yeah, that was
good, and what I liked aboutthat one, too, is how this demon
said I want that guy.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
You know, yeah, I like it when there's like a
challenge and then, he's likelaughing and Russell Crowe was a
great fit for that role.
But you know they say I know wewere talking serious and now
we're talking movies.
But look, life imitates art.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
It does.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Art also imitates life.
You can't have one without theother.
Hey, man, it was great havingyou on today.
Speaker 4 (44:38):
I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Thank you Absolutely, David, and I I know he's.
I can tell he's been enthralledwith what you've been saying.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
Oh no.
I mean, I've definitely beenenthralled, but if people want
to follow you on social media,what are your handles on all the
social medias TikTok, instagram, all those?
Speaker 4 (45:06):
So my TikTok and my Instagram are Lord underscore
Scuba Cabra and on Facebook I amLord Scuba Cabra Vasquez, and
that those are the really theonly two and, of course, my
somewhat supernatural page, if.
If you're interested in thepodcast and the investigations,
that's where I live stream allof them.
The.
The podcast.
It used to be a live videopodcast and recently I started
(45:27):
just doing audio, shorteningthem down because I would get
people on.
You know, my buddies and Iwould get on and talk and we
would just go for an hour andget off topic, and so I just
kind of started bringing themdown, making shorter episodes
and just kind of sticking moreto the, the, the, the meat and
potatoes of the episode, asopposed to getting on and
(45:49):
bantering and stuff.
So that's where you guys canfollow me.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Well, that's amazing, hey, dude, to start out season
two with an episode like thiswith you.
I'm very glad we did thisbecause you have stories that we
could talk about and, like Isaid, I'd love to have you back.
I'd love to be on your podcast,because this kind of
conversation it's endless,there's so many.
(46:13):
There's so many things to getinto with it, but we want to
appreciate, we want to thank you.
We really appreciate you beingon here.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Steven, thanks so much no problem and we'll talk
to you later thanks for checkingout the sonic hitchhiker
podcast.
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