January 21, 2025 • 30 mins
Imagine living in a house where the footsteps of unseen beings echo through the halls and mysterious orbs appear in the cellar. Our guest, Lee Welch, once a skeptic, found himself in just such a scenario in Albany, Georgia. His eerie experiences, alongside my sons Aaron and Isaac, unravel a tale of intrigue and fear, marked by encounters with ghostly apparitions and unsettling family histories. This episode promises a spine-tingling journey into the supernatural, as Lee shares how his disbelief was shattered by the haunting reality of his surroundings.
Elsewhere, a family member recounts their own nightmarish experiences in a home filled with inexplicable phenomena. Imagine waking up at 3 a.m. to find your door mysteriously ajar. These continuous disturbances took a toll on family dynamics, leading to the unconventional advice of communicating with the presence haunting their home. Surprisingly, this attempt at dialogue provided a temporary reprieve from the nightly terrors, illustrating an unconventional path to peace amidst chaos.
Then, we meander through an old house reminiscent of a whimsical gingerbread structure, where architectural charm meets the paranormal. This dwelling, with its unique mother-in-law suite brimming with antiques, becomes the stage for ghostly encounters experienced by Aaron, Isaac, and Lee. We also explore the notion that some individuals might be innately more connected to the supernatural, as evidenced by the myriad of haunted locations we've visited. Join us as we navigate these captivating stories, where acknowledging the spirits within might just be the key to coexisting peacefully in a world where the line between the living and the dead blurs.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everyone, it's producer David Fine here Before
we get into another exciting andamazing edition of the Sonic
Hitchhiker Podcast, which today,folks, it's another amazing one
.
It's going to have the hair onthe back of your neck stand up
the entire time.
Trust me, it's an amazing one.
But just wanted to give you alittle inside baseball.
Our guest, lee Welch, has somegreat stories, and some of the
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stories he refers to two kids,aaron and Isaac.
And you're probably saying whoare Aaron and Isaac?
Well, they are Billy Shadow'skids.
So I just want to give you alittle inside baseball, but
without further ado.
An all-new Sonic the Hitchhikerpodcast, a first-take audio
production, begins now.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Welcome to the Sonic Hitchhiker podcast dedicated to
all things strange, mysteriousand just plain out of the
ordinary.
Your guide on this audioodyssey is billy shadow.
Billy's travels and experienceshave led him to witness
exorcisms, cult mind controlevents, ghosts and other
supernatural phenomena.
It is because of his interestin these experiences that this
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podcast was created.
And now your host, billy Shadow.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Hello, my friends, welcome again to the Sonic
Hitchhiker podcast.
I am your host, billy Shadow,and today we have a very special
guest, lee Welch, out ofSouthwest Georgia, that is going
to be telling us about ahaunted house that he lived in
for a little over two years, ornearly two years, until it was
time for him just to get out.
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But, as you're going to hear,this story is fascinating.
A lot of things happened to himin this house.
So, without further ado, ourguest, lee Welch.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Just a mechanic, dad, you know, usual everyday stuff,
nothing special.
But you know I didn't reallybelieve in ghosts and stuff like
that until I lived in thathouse.
So it was a rude awakening, Iguess you could say, when I
moved there initially.
The house is in Albany, off ofBaker Avenue.
(02:05):
I'm not going to give theaddress because people still
live there, but it was my ex'sfamily's house and she convinced
me to move there from WorthCounty and she said you know, my
dad's going to cut us a sweetdeal on the rent and everything
and back then $300 a month was,you know, normal and we were
like man, that's a great dealcompared to the $500 we're
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paying now.
So we moved in and um, it waslike the second day of unpacking
and starting to um, pack allyou know, set the rooms up and
everything.
We were just talking about thehouse.
I was like man, you know thisis a nice place, you know it's
got really old bones andeverything.
And she was yeah, and she justslipped in the little details.
(02:47):
She was like a lot of familymembers have passed away here
and that caught me off guard andI was like like how many?
She said I don't know likeseven or eight, maybe nine,
something like that, and I waslike, oh, that was very out of
(03:08):
the blue and it caught me offguard.
And she was like, yeah, I knowif I would have told you that
you would have never wanted tomove here.
So I kind of got swindled.
So I guess it started, um, thevery first time I experienced it
she was at work and back thenshe was working and going to
school and I was workingfull-time, so the weekends it
was usually me and the kids,until she got home in the
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evenings and you know you, Iwould just hear random noises in
the house and sound likefootsteps, but the kids are down
for a nap, because you know,back then they were little
babies and, um, you would go andwalk through the house and
they're, they're just passed outand you would wave it off as,
oh, it's an old house, you know,maybe stuff is creaking and you
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know, from there it kind ofprogressed Noises, you know,
weird footsteps.
But one night I was tellingAaron and Isaac about it and
they came over and we were inthe sunroom outside and it was
nighttime and you know, we hadthe laptop out there.
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We were playing music, messingaround on I guess it was like
Omegle or something like thatand there was a cellar and I was
like you know, I've never beendown into the cellar, let's go
down there.
So we got a wild hair and wentdown into the cellar and it's
like maybe like a 10 by 8 roomwith a dirt floor, concrete
walls and there's like theserandom antique glass bottles all
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along the shelves on the sideof the walls and everything, and
there was just one hanginglight bulb in the middle with a
switch.
So we we cut the light on, wewere looking around and we're
like, man, this is weird.
You know, this is really creepy.
You know, let's get out of here.
I don't remember if they broughtthe camera or if I had a camera
, but we started taking picturesin the sunroom downstairs and
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we were looking at them.
You could see orbs and you know, little lights and stuff that
um are obviously not there andwe were just, you know, in shock
.
We're like that um areobviously not there and we were
just, you know, in shock.
We're like, oh, my God, man,look at this stuff.
Like it's everywhere, like itlooked like someone was blowing
bubbles in the pictures, wow,and um, one of them, I think I
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think Aaron pointed it out he'slike look, that looks like a
face in the window.
And that's when we startedgetting really creeped out and
we ran outside because we werelike you know that's.
We got creeped out, wentoutside and outside the sunroom
was a carport and it was just,you know, thrown together
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carport with some chairs, andthere was a door on the side of
the house that goes under thehouse for, you know, repairs and
maintenance.
So I sat in a chair in front ofthat and we were kind of like
nervously laughing, like man,that was crazy, you know, just
talking about it, trying to calmdown a little bit.
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Well, out of nowhere andthey'll vouch to this to this
day the door behind me itsounded like someone kicked it
three times and we immediatelyran and jumped in aaron's truck
got away from the house.
So we, um, we were freaked outand I told aaron Erin I said
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take me to Caitlin's work.
I said take me there.
So we got there and I wastelling her.
I said look, we were messingaround and everything.
I told her everything that hadhappened and the kids were at
their aunt's house on thisweekend, so it isn't like I left
them at home and she was likeshe got super mad and she was
like like you really made it mad.
(06:46):
You made it mad.
I was like made what mad?
What are you talking about?
She said the freaking ghostly.
You made him mad.
I said, oh so this is a normalthing and she's like when I grew
up here, she was like you, youdidn't mess with him, you just
didn't do that.
So we went and ate and then wedrove home and it started
raining and in the middle of thebackyard there's a large pole
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with a light on it in the backand it was flooding and we
pulled up under the carport andit's like as soon as she cut the
car off and we opened the doors, that light went out and she
looks at me and she's like youbetter make things right.
That was like the firstexperience with any ghost or
anything like that I'd ever hadfirsthand.
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And then it just it snowballed.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
After that got worse after that way worse, like okay,
now tell us how it got worse,because this is super creepy man
so the house setup was weird.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Where the Sun room is there's a small staircase that
goes into the master bedroom,which is where me and her slept.
There's a hallway that connectsfrom there to another room
which is my youngest son's room,and then that leads to another
hallway which goes down themiddle of the house and all the
rooms kind of branch off fromthere, off this main hallway.
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So from there it wasn't dayafter day after day, it was
randomly, and the firstoccurrence after that night I
went to go take a shower and myyoungest son was I think he was
like almost two at this pointmaybe Went to go take a shower
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and you know he was in his roomplaying and I take super fast
showers, I don't take long ones.
So it's like as soon as I getin the shower I hear him
screaming and I'm like man, Iwas like, you know, he know he
done, you know, ran out of juiceor something, because he was
dramatic and uh, he keptscreaming and he was running.
But I heard like footsteps, likeof a grown man or something
(08:55):
like that, running too, and I'mlike what is going on?
Throw a towel on, run out andum, it's just him running down
the hall and you know I'm in ahot shower.
I come out and I still feelwarm, but it's like he runs down
the hall and you know I'm in ahot shower.
I come out and I still feelwarm, but it's like he runs down
the hall towards me, as my sondoes, and I pick him up and then
it's like this rush of cool airhits me like wind and all the.
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You know, all the doors are shut.
So I was like what, what isgoing on?
So the next event after that iswhen my sleep schedule started
getting messed up.
It didn't matter if I went tobed at eight, nine midnight.
I woke up at 3 am on the dotwith my arms crossed over my
chest.
No matter what, I sleep withthe bedroom door closed, and
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every time I'd wake up it'd'd beopen and my arms would be
across my chest like I was in acoffin and I would never be able
to fall immediately back tosleep.
It always felt like someone wasover me and it just kept wearing
me down to the point where,like, my co-workers are like are
you okay?
Like what's going on?
And I was like man, like I'mnot sleeping good, I can't sleep
through the night.
And then I woke up, up as usualthree o'clock, but I heard my
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son crying in the next room andI was like you know, maybe he'll
stop in a few seconds, becauseI was like super tired.
And then, um, I hear footstepsand I'm like what is happening?
Like why, what is going onright now?
And the footstep sounds likesomeone's walking.
And then it stops and I waslike okay.
So at this point I'm kind ofsitting up in the bed she's
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asleep, and then you hear thefootsteps, like someone's
sprinting, crying.
So the sprinting starts, youhear it and then it stops and my
son immediately quits crying,just like goes quiet.
So I jump out the bed, run tohis room and he's fine, like
he's just asleep, like nothing'sever happened.
So I told her what was going on.
I was like you know, and herthing is like you got to make
things right.
(10:55):
You know you made it mad.
You need to do things right.
Make it not mad at you.
You don't know what you need todo.
You need to figure it outbecause it's not messing with me
.
Mad at you.
You don't know what you need todo.
You need to figure it outbecause it's not messing with me
, it's messing with you.
So there was the footstepsconstantly messing with the kids
constantly messing with me,constantly the lights flickering
, um, the all that stuff wasjust random, like the lights
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would just randomly go out inthe kitchen, you'd have to go
cut them back on the bathroom.
You'd have to cut them back oneven though you left them on,
and then it started breakingthings.
There was a in their bathroom.
We had it was an old bathroomso you had like a top shelf and
then there was another shelfbehind it built into the wall
and it had some, you know, justglass, porcelain figurines.
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And you know, one night I heardsomething break in the bathroom
and I was like, you know, great, the kids done broke something.
So I get up and go in there,the kids are in their room
playing, watching tv and, um, Igo in there and I clean it up
and I see that, uh, it's justcompletely thrown off the shelf
from where it was from, likethere's no way the kids, kids
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could have reached it.
You know, we didn't haveanimals in the house.
So it started breaking stuff andthen it got to the point where
if I was home alone, I would getlocked out in the house and my
keys would usually be in thehouse.
So I had to figure out how tobreak in and eventually I just I
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talked to the guy that wastraining me at work.
He was an older guy and I toldhim what was going on and he was
like, have you tried talking toit?
I said no, I don't know how todo that.
He's like just talk to thehouse.
I guess he was like that's whatI would do.
He said because, uh, he said itlooks like you never sleep
Cause I I looked rough at thispoint Cause this has been
carrying on for about six months, yeah, and uh, I finally just
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tried talking to it Like, hey,I'm sorry, you know we're not
going to mess with you again.
Um, we didn't mean disrespect.
Like I was just talking into thehall and I was like, okay, so
that night I actually got tosleep all through the night and
I woke up and I felt so restedand I was like, oh yeah, I was
like maybe this worked and itdid for a little bit, but it
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would just show itself.
I guess.
Kind of like I'd be walkingthrough the kitchen to go to the
hall and I would get a glimpseof somebody standing in the
doorway by the living roomentrance and I would turn over
there really fast and you didn'tsee anything but out of your
peripheral you seen like a tall,shadowy figure.
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So, and then that carried on upuntil I eventually moved out of
that place.
I got to sleep throughout thenight.
Footsteps never went away.
Um, I seen the shadowy figuremore after that but, um, it did,
let me sleep and it quitmessing with the kids and stuff,
so that was the best part of it.
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I guess, uh, a very bigbeliever in you know afterlife
and ghosts, apparitions, and Ilearned to not toy with them.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
So well, that man that's.
Yeah, that's a lot worse than Ithought it would be.
That story that I would.
I don't know how long I couldhave handled that.
So how long total would you sayyou stayed in the house?
How many years or months I?
Speaker 4 (14:23):
think I was there about two years total until me
and her went our separate waysand I moved out Towards the end.
I think the last three monthsit was peaceful.
It kind of left me alone.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
So, out of the two years, the last three months
were decent.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
I wonder do you know, do you have any idea who moved
into it after you?
Speaker 4 (14:47):
It was one of her friends.
The house went up for auctionand one of her friends that she
went to school with bought it,but I'm not 100 sure who.
Um, I had a service call overthere about two weeks ago in the
area to guy locked his keys inhis truck so I had to go over
there and unlock it and I had toride by it and it looks like
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it's abandoned now, but I'm notsure.
Maybe they're doing renovationsbecause there were vehicles
there, so I think someone livesthere, but I'm not 100% sure.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
I would be so curious to know what the people behind
you experienced in that housewhen you left Me too.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
I wanted to reach out to them.
I tried to convince her too,but she didn't want to bring it
up, just in case they weren'texperiencing anything.
Yeah, well.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Also, I wanted to ask you this, because I'm always
curious about these things aswell um, describe the.
What did the house look like?
What give me an idea?
Did it?
Was it?
How old was it?
I know you said that a lot ofpeople had died in there, so
obviously it was an older home,but was it like a two-story?
Speaker 4 (15:56):
lots of windows what was it like there was a honestly
the best way to describe it.
It looks like a gingerbreadhouse, your stereotypical
gingerbread house red door,small brick front porch with
three steps, two wrought ironrails that went down.
It um hardwood floorsthroughout, um, it was a brick
house.
Um, the sunroom was actually apatio.
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You would go downstairs fromthe back of the house.
To ground level.
The house was on like a two anda half foot foundation, I think,
thinking back, and they her dadhad built around and over the
patio area, so the floor downthere was literally just brick
and it was um, basically asunroom, tons of windows down
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there, and then there was afrench doors that went out to
the carport area, which is aconcrete slab and, you know,
just a makeshift cover for a car, and, um, about 100 feet behind
that there was a oldmother-in-law suite, I guess you
could call it.
They had upstairs anddownstairs.
That was um, really old bricksand stones, um, that was rotten
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and falling apart.
That had a bunch of um, reallyantique stuff out there.
I still have, um, and I thinkit's from the 30s or 40s.
It's a ping pong, a tabletopping pong game in the box and
everything that I kept from thatplace, out of that
mother-in-law suite, but had abig yard, I mean, but it looked
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really normal, nothing out ofthe way.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Now you've talked.
I just want to tell theaudience this you've talked
about these two guys, aaron andIsaac.
Aaron and Isaac, as I saidearlier, are my two older sons,
and Lee was a friend of theirsand used to come over to my
house often, and now they'veremained friends to this day.
Used to come over to my houseoften and now they've remained
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friends to this day.
And my son, aaron, told meabout some of the experiences
that you're telling me aboutthat you guys had together in
this house, which fascinated meand that's why I wanted to talk
to you about it.
What's unusual is that—notunusual, I'm not going to say
unusual.
Is that not unusual?
I'm not going to say unusual.
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What's fascinating is thatsomeone told you to talk to the
spirit or whatever that wasoccupying the home and it seems
to have kind of the activityseems to have dissipated
somewhat based on you talking tohim.
I worked for a ghost hunter onetime.
She was pretty big into it andshe told me that sometimes the
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houses that she would goinvestigate the spirits would
follow her back to her home andshe would have to talk to them
and tell them that sheacknowledged them, that they
were there and then they wouldthey soon to be happy with that.
So she almost made it seem likethat, as long as someone
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acknowledged that they existed,it kind of helped.
So I wonder obviously I don'tknow this for sure, but I wonder
if just the very fact of youjust even acknowledging that
this spirit existed andapologizing or trying to make
amends, just the very act thatyou communicated with it, maybe
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helped satisfy it a little bit.
I've heard a lot of storiesabout homes being haunted,
occupied by otherworldlypresence, and once they started
communicating with it.
Now I've heard it go the otherway too.
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But I guess there aremalevolent spirits as well that,
no matter what you say, they'rejust there to disturb you.
Well, that, no matter what yousay, they're just there to
disturb you.
But it sounds like this one.
You know, however, you,whatever you did to piss it off,
it wanted to make sure that youknew it was pissed off.
And so it was irritated it was,it decided it was going to get
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back at you, even to the even,to the point of breaking things,
which I'm telling you, man, youstayed in that house a lot
longer than I would have.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah, my options were limited, Well.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
I get that and that's what a lot of people say, and
maybe you know it never hurt youphysically.
Another thing I wanted to askyou about you mentioned that
when you woke up, your handswould be crossed over your chest
.
You think that, yeah, you thinkthat whatever did that to you,
yeah, you don't you think thatthe whatever did that to you or
you don't think you did that onyour own?
Speaker 4 (20:36):
I sleep on my stomach and sprawled out, and you know,
everywhere I've lived up untilthere that's how I always woke
up, where I'd wake up on my backsprawled out.
I've never woke up cuddled upwith my arms crossed or anything
like that.
And once I moved out of there,if I remember right, when I
moved out of there, I actuallylived with Aaron for a short
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time and when I lived with himwoke up, normal and everything.
But every time I woke up at 3am at that house my arms were
crossed and my feet it was likeI was in a coffin.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
every night my arms were crossed and my feet.
It was like I was in a coffinevery night yeah that I've never
heard anything like that whereit actually positioned how you
slept while you were asleep.
That's, that's, that's prettycreepy.
So did you ever do any researchjust to like get an idea of who
lived there before?
I know you said quite a fewpeople.
Did you ever look look up, lookit up to kind of see what they
looked like or what thebackground was in the house?
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Did you ever do any of that?
Or you just decided it was timeto go and that was it?
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Yeah, once I moved out and everything you know,
before I moved out I talked toher dad about it and he just
told me that it was like theirfamily home, that he had lived
there when he was a kid andaunts, uncles, like it was just
a big family home and um, youknow, I just took that for what
it was worth and I was like,okay, I understood and I wasn't
really big into looking stuff upback then.
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So but I did do research on thehouse I live in now and you
know I moved here in 94 and Imoved out when I turned 18.
And you know, throughout mychildhood there was weird stuff
that happened.
But most of my friends and evenmy fiance now, they all say
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this place is haunted too.
But I agree with them.
But this, whatever is here, it'sreally cool, it doesn't mess
with you.
You'll definitely hearfootsteps, doors opening and
closing wee hours in the morningbecause, um, she gets up super
early for work, so she hears ita bunch.
Or sometimes you'll be watchingTV at night and it'll smell
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like someone lit up a cigarette,like right next to you.
None of us smoke, but um, it'llmove pictures, just turns them
sideways, but um, it'll movepictures, just turns them
sideways and stuff like that,but he doesn't hurt us, he
doesn't aggravate us Um and um.
I'd actually looked around andasked um, the neighbor across
the street, miss Elizabeth.
She's been here 75 years, 80years, before she moved and she
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said, yeah, um, she said beforeyour grandmother got the house
there was a Vietnam veteran thathad it and he had a mental
episode and tried to kill hisfamily.
He couldn't, so he killedhimself in the front yard.
And then it was a few yearsafter that my grandparents
bought the house, remodeled itand then they gave it to my
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parents.
Then they moved and then I gotthe house.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
So and that's the house you're living in now.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Yeah, down here in Leesburg.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
So you seem to be, I don't know some kind of you have
a way of not attracting thesethings, not attracting these
things, but they but you seem tobe.
There's something like somepeople, or their mind is open to
things and they see things.
I'm not sure how that worksexactly, but I feel like with
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some people, there's some kindof connection between them and
the other side which I I feellike.
I've had some of thatthroughout my years, but nothing
like you're describing.
So I would love to know moreabout that, how that works.
So if you're living in a housenow and you're smelling
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cigarettes and pictures arebeing moved and things like that
that's I'm not either one ortwo things happened.
Something followed you, likethis ghost hunter was telling me
about, but apparently it's notmalevolent or you just moved
into another haunted house andit's just bad luck on your part.
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Only, in this case it's a goodone and not a bad one.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Yeah, with my luck I wouldn't be surprised.
I don't know if Aaron ever didhe ever tell you about the
cottage I had on the creek?
Speaker 3 (24:57):
No, he didn't.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
So when I lived there , I lived there for a brief
stint by myself next to theKitchen of Mooney Creek.
It was a one-bedroom cottageand our mutual friend, tyler,
came and spent the night.
I think Aaron was there, or itmight have been Isaac, I can't
remember for sure.
But Tyler spent the night andhe woke up at like 6, 7 o'clock
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in the morning and he wasfreaking out.
He's like I got to go, I got togo, I got to go and we're like
you know what's going on.
He's like I got to get out ofthis place and he just leaves
and doesn't tell us anything.
And then later on that day whathe experienced it sounds like
sleep paralysis, but he swearsthere's like a ghost in that
place and he never came back andeverything he said.
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He woke up, he couldn't move,felt like someone was breathing
on him and you know I never hadexperiences like that in the
cottage.
But Tyler said that was thesecond time he felt like there
was a ghost there and he nevercame back.
But as long as I lived in thatcottage I never felt anything
out the way or nothing weirdhappened besides you know the
neighbor slamming my screen doorbecause it's open on a Saturday
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morning and waking me up.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
So wow, dude, yeah, and waking me up.
So, wow, dude, yeah, you seemto have a a knack for for moving
into these places, but you seemto be okay with the place
you're in now.
So, even if it's, even if it'shaunted, as they say, you seem
to be okay with it, I guess.
(26:29):
I guess it's not as bad as thelast place you lived in.
So you, you're like, as long asit's not as long as the last
place you lived in.
So you, you're like, as long asit's not as long as I'm not
waking up with my bodyreposition, I'm okay or someone
running up and down the hallway.
You know it's weird, it's, it'sthere.
A lot of people think that thiskind of stuff is just, you know
, bullshit.
But um, I'm telling you, man,man, I've heard so many stories
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just personally of, but you knowthere's so many stories of
these things happening.
I have a couple of my own, likeI said, nothing like yours, and
I've talked to a lot of peoplethrough the years that have
experienced the same thing.
So there is definitelysomething to that.
And I think every house,obviously every house,
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especially older homes, do havea history, good and bad.
I mean, people live there, theylive out their hopes and dreams
there.
Bad things happen theresometimes.
Sometimes really tragic thingshappen, and I think it's for me,
I feel like it's almost likeeither their spirits somehow get
stuck in some kind of limbo orI just I don't know.
(27:38):
I don't know if anyone exactlyknows how that works, but I
definitely believe in thosethings and I also believe your
story.
So when Aaron told me about youhaving the stories that you had,
I really was anxious to talk toyou about it and I appreciate
you coming on and telling usabout it, but if you have any
friends that have similarexperiences too, tell them to
(28:03):
reach out.
I love these stories.
I love the one you told.
The one you told probably, asof yet, is the most involved as
far as a ghost story.
It is the most involved as faras a ghost story is the most
involved.
I've heard that I've been upfrom the people that I've
interviewed so far.
So that's a lot, man, for twoyears to stay there for two
years with all of that going on.
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That I know you had no otheroptions.
That's a lot.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Yeah, it was rough and, like I said, I didn't
believe in that stuff until Ilived there, but after I moved
out I was you believe it.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Now, I'm a believer yeah that's the way everyone is.
People are always quick to judgethese stories until it happens
to them, and then they're.
They either decide to be inself-denial or they accept it,
and it definitely sounds likeyou accepted it, and me too I
have to.
And, um, I know my.
(28:56):
I know Aaron for sure has hadsome experiences he's told me
about.
I doubt I mean, I don't know ifhe would ever come on the show
or not but they definitelywanted you on.
So I really appreciate youdoing this.
Man, thanks a lot.
Well, what did you guys thinkabout that story with our guest,
lee Welch Quite?
A story he had about hishaunted house, and we really
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appreciate him coming on theshow and sharing his story with
us.
And stay tuned, we'll have alot more stories like this,
similar to this, or even on afew different subjects like UFOs
, out-of-body experiences, thosetype of things that are coming
up that we'll be talking.
We'll have guests that we'll betalking to about these things.
So until next time, I'm yourhost, billy Shadow.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
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we get into another exciting andamazing edition of the Sonic
Hitchhiker Podcast, which today,folks, it's another amazing one
.
It's going to have the hair onthe back of your neck stand up
the entire time.
Trust me, it's an amazing one.
But just wanted to give you alittle inside baseball.
Our guest, lee Welch, has somegreat stories, and some of the
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stories he refers to two kids,aaron and Isaac.
And you're probably saying whoare Aaron and Isaac?
Well, they are Billy Shadow'skids.
So I just want to give you alittle inside baseball, but
without further ado.
An all-new Sonic the Hitchhikerpodcast, a first-take audio
production, begins now.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Welcome to the Sonic Hitchhiker podcast dedicated to
all things strange, mysteriousand just plain out of the
ordinary.
Your guide on this audioodyssey is billy shadow.
Billy's travels and experienceshave led him to witness
exorcisms, cult mind controlevents, ghosts and other
supernatural phenomena.
It is because of his interestin these experiences that this
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podcast was created.
And now your host, billy Shadow.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Hello, my friends, welcome again to the Sonic
Hitchhiker podcast.
I am your host, billy Shadow,and today we have a very special
guest, lee Welch, out ofSouthwest Georgia, that is going
to be telling us about ahaunted house that he lived in
for a little over two years, ornearly two years, until it was
time for him just to get out.
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But, as you're going to hear,this story is fascinating.
A lot of things happened to himin this house.
So, without further ado, ourguest, lee Welch.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Just a mechanic, dad, you know, usual everyday stuff,
nothing special.
But you know I didn't reallybelieve in ghosts and stuff like
that until I lived in thathouse.
So it was a rude awakening, Iguess you could say, when I
moved there initially.
The house is in Albany, off ofBaker Avenue.
(02:05):
I'm not going to give theaddress because people still
live there, but it was my ex'sfamily's house and she convinced
me to move there from WorthCounty and she said you know, my
dad's going to cut us a sweetdeal on the rent and everything
and back then $300 a month was,you know, normal and we were
like man, that's a great dealcompared to the $500 we're
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paying now.
So we moved in and um, it waslike the second day of unpacking
and starting to um, pack allyou know, set the rooms up and
everything.
We were just talking about thehouse.
I was like man, you know thisis a nice place, you know it's
got really old bones andeverything.
And she was yeah, and she justslipped in the little details.
(02:47):
She was like a lot of familymembers have passed away here
and that caught me off guard andI was like like how many?
She said I don't know likeseven or eight, maybe nine,
something like that, and I waslike, oh, that was very out of
(03:08):
the blue and it caught me offguard.
And she was like, yeah, I knowif I would have told you that
you would have never wanted tomove here.
So I kind of got swindled.
So I guess it started, um, thevery first time I experienced it
she was at work and back thenshe was working and going to
school and I was workingfull-time, so the weekends it
was usually me and the kids,until she got home in the
(03:29):
evenings and you know you, Iwould just hear random noises in
the house and sound likefootsteps, but the kids are down
for a nap, because you know,back then they were little
babies and, um, you would go andwalk through the house and
they're, they're just passed outand you would wave it off as,
oh, it's an old house, you know,maybe stuff is creaking and you
(03:49):
know, from there it kind ofprogressed Noises, you know,
weird footsteps.
But one night I was tellingAaron and Isaac about it and
they came over and we were inthe sunroom outside and it was
nighttime and you know, we hadthe laptop out there.
(04:10):
We were playing music, messingaround on I guess it was like
Omegle or something like thatand there was a cellar and I was
like you know, I've never beendown into the cellar, let's go
down there.
So we got a wild hair and wentdown into the cellar and it's
like maybe like a 10 by 8 roomwith a dirt floor, concrete
walls and there's like theserandom antique glass bottles all
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along the shelves on the sideof the walls and everything, and
there was just one hanginglight bulb in the middle with a
switch.
So we we cut the light on, wewere looking around and we're
like, man, this is weird.
You know, this is really creepy.
You know, let's get out of here.
I don't remember if they broughtthe camera or if I had a camera
, but we started taking picturesin the sunroom downstairs and
(04:56):
we were looking at them.
You could see orbs and you know, little lights and stuff that
um are obviously not there andwe were just, you know, in shock
.
We're like that um areobviously not there and we were
just, you know, in shock.
We're like, oh, my God, man,look at this stuff.
Like it's everywhere, like itlooked like someone was blowing
bubbles in the pictures, wow,and um, one of them, I think I
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think Aaron pointed it out he'slike look, that looks like a
face in the window.
And that's when we startedgetting really creeped out and
we ran outside because we werelike you know that's.
We got creeped out, wentoutside and outside the sunroom
was a carport and it was just,you know, thrown together
(05:39):
carport with some chairs, andthere was a door on the side of
the house that goes under thehouse for, you know, repairs and
maintenance.
So I sat in a chair in front ofthat and we were kind of like
nervously laughing, like man,that was crazy, you know, just
talking about it, trying to calmdown a little bit.
(06:00):
Well, out of nowhere andthey'll vouch to this to this
day the door behind me itsounded like someone kicked it
three times and we immediatelyran and jumped in aaron's truck
got away from the house.
So we, um, we were freaked outand I told aaron Erin I said
(06:24):
take me to Caitlin's work.
I said take me there.
So we got there and I wastelling her.
I said look, we were messingaround and everything.
I told her everything that hadhappened and the kids were at
their aunt's house on thisweekend, so it isn't like I left
them at home and she was likeshe got super mad and she was
like like you really made it mad.
(06:46):
You made it mad.
I was like made what mad?
What are you talking about?
She said the freaking ghostly.
You made him mad.
I said, oh so this is a normalthing and she's like when I grew
up here, she was like you, youdidn't mess with him, you just
didn't do that.
So we went and ate and then wedrove home and it started
raining and in the middle of thebackyard there's a large pole
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with a light on it in the backand it was flooding and we
pulled up under the carport andit's like as soon as she cut the
car off and we opened the doors, that light went out and she
looks at me and she's like youbetter make things right.
That was like the firstexperience with any ghost or
anything like that I'd ever hadfirsthand.
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And then it just it snowballed.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
After that got worse after that way worse, like okay,
now tell us how it got worse,because this is super creepy man
so the house setup was weird.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Where the Sun room is there's a small staircase that
goes into the master bedroom,which is where me and her slept.
There's a hallway that connectsfrom there to another room
which is my youngest son's room,and then that leads to another
hallway which goes down themiddle of the house and all the
rooms kind of branch off fromthere, off this main hallway.
(08:08):
So from there it wasn't dayafter day after day, it was
randomly, and the firstoccurrence after that night I
went to go take a shower and myyoungest son was I think he was
like almost two at this pointmaybe Went to go take a shower
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and you know he was in his roomplaying and I take super fast
showers, I don't take long ones.
So it's like as soon as I getin the shower I hear him
screaming and I'm like man, Iwas like, you know, he know he
done, you know, ran out of juiceor something, because he was
dramatic and uh, he keptscreaming and he was running.
But I heard like footsteps, likeof a grown man or something
(08:55):
like that, running too, and I'mlike what is going on?
Throw a towel on, run out andum, it's just him running down
the hall and you know I'm in ahot shower.
I come out and I still feelwarm, but it's like he runs down
the hall and you know I'm in ahot shower.
I come out and I still feelwarm, but it's like he runs down
the hall towards me, as my sondoes, and I pick him up and then
it's like this rush of cool airhits me like wind and all the.
(09:17):
You know, all the doors are shut.
So I was like what, what isgoing on?
So the next event after that iswhen my sleep schedule started
getting messed up.
It didn't matter if I went tobed at eight, nine midnight.
I woke up at 3 am on the dotwith my arms crossed over my
chest.
No matter what, I sleep withthe bedroom door closed, and
(09:41):
every time I'd wake up it'd'd beopen and my arms would be
across my chest like I was in acoffin and I would never be able
to fall immediately back tosleep.
It always felt like someone wasover me and it just kept wearing
me down to the point where,like, my co-workers are like are
you okay?
Like what's going on?
And I was like man, like I'mnot sleeping good, I can't sleep
through the night.
And then I woke up, up as usualthree o'clock, but I heard my
(10:04):
son crying in the next room andI was like you know, maybe he'll
stop in a few seconds, becauseI was like super tired.
And then, um, I hear footstepsand I'm like what is happening?
Like why, what is going onright now?
And the footstep sounds likesomeone's walking.
And then it stops and I waslike okay.
So at this point I'm kind ofsitting up in the bed she's
(10:35):
asleep, and then you hear thefootsteps, like someone's
sprinting, crying.
So the sprinting starts, youhear it and then it stops and my
son immediately quits crying,just like goes quiet.
So I jump out the bed, run tohis room and he's fine, like
he's just asleep, like nothing'sever happened.
So I told her what was going on.
I was like you know, and herthing is like you got to make
things right.
(10:55):
You know you made it mad.
You need to do things right.
Make it not mad at you.
You don't know what you need todo.
You need to figure it outbecause it's not messing with me
.
Mad at you.
You don't know what you need todo.
You need to figure it outbecause it's not messing with me
, it's messing with you.
So there was the footstepsconstantly messing with the kids
constantly messing with me,constantly the lights flickering
, um, the all that stuff wasjust random, like the lights
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would just randomly go out inthe kitchen, you'd have to go
cut them back on the bathroom.
You'd have to cut them back oneven though you left them on,
and then it started breakingthings.
There was a in their bathroom.
We had it was an old bathroomso you had like a top shelf and
then there was another shelfbehind it built into the wall
and it had some, you know, justglass, porcelain figurines.
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And you know, one night I heardsomething break in the bathroom
and I was like, you know, great, the kids done broke something.
So I get up and go in there,the kids are in their room
playing, watching tv and, um, Igo in there and I clean it up
and I see that, uh, it's justcompletely thrown off the shelf
from where it was from, likethere's no way the kids, kids
(12:03):
could have reached it.
You know, we didn't haveanimals in the house.
So it started breaking stuff andthen it got to the point where
if I was home alone, I would getlocked out in the house and my
keys would usually be in thehouse.
So I had to figure out how tobreak in and eventually I just I
(12:27):
talked to the guy that wastraining me at work.
He was an older guy and I toldhim what was going on and he was
like, have you tried talking toit?
I said no, I don't know how todo that.
He's like just talk to thehouse.
I guess he was like that's whatI would do.
He said because, uh, he said itlooks like you never sleep
Cause I I looked rough at thispoint Cause this has been
carrying on for about six months, yeah, and uh, I finally just
(12:52):
tried talking to it Like, hey,I'm sorry, you know we're not
going to mess with you again.
Um, we didn't mean disrespect.
Like I was just talking into thehall and I was like, okay, so
that night I actually got tosleep all through the night and
I woke up and I felt so restedand I was like, oh yeah, I was
like maybe this worked and itdid for a little bit, but it
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would just show itself.
I guess.
Kind of like I'd be walkingthrough the kitchen to go to the
hall and I would get a glimpseof somebody standing in the
doorway by the living roomentrance and I would turn over
there really fast and you didn'tsee anything but out of your
peripheral you seen like a tall,shadowy figure.
(13:37):
So, and then that carried on upuntil I eventually moved out of
that place.
I got to sleep throughout thenight.
Footsteps never went away.
Um, I seen the shadowy figuremore after that but, um, it did,
let me sleep and it quitmessing with the kids and stuff,
so that was the best part of it.
(13:59):
I guess, uh, a very bigbeliever in you know afterlife
and ghosts, apparitions, and Ilearned to not toy with them.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
So well, that man that's.
Yeah, that's a lot worse than Ithought it would be.
That story that I would.
I don't know how long I couldhave handled that.
So how long total would you sayyou stayed in the house?
How many years or months I?
Speaker 4 (14:23):
think I was there about two years total until me
and her went our separate waysand I moved out Towards the end.
I think the last three monthsit was peaceful.
It kind of left me alone.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
So, out of the two years, the last three months
were decent.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
I wonder do you know, do you have any idea who moved
into it after you?
Speaker 4 (14:47):
It was one of her friends.
The house went up for auctionand one of her friends that she
went to school with bought it,but I'm not 100 sure who.
Um, I had a service call overthere about two weeks ago in the
area to guy locked his keys inhis truck so I had to go over
there and unlock it and I had toride by it and it looks like
(15:09):
it's abandoned now, but I'm notsure.
Maybe they're doing renovationsbecause there were vehicles
there, so I think someone livesthere, but I'm not 100% sure.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
I would be so curious to know what the people behind
you experienced in that housewhen you left Me too.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
I wanted to reach out to them.
I tried to convince her too,but she didn't want to bring it
up, just in case they weren'texperiencing anything.
Yeah, well.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Also, I wanted to ask you this, because I'm always
curious about these things aswell um, describe the.
What did the house look like?
What give me an idea?
Did it?
Was it?
How old was it?
I know you said that a lot ofpeople had died in there, so
obviously it was an older home,but was it like a two-story?
Speaker 4 (15:56):
lots of windows what was it like there was a honestly
the best way to describe it.
It looks like a gingerbreadhouse, your stereotypical
gingerbread house red door,small brick front porch with
three steps, two wrought ironrails that went down.
It um hardwood floorsthroughout, um, it was a brick
house.
Um, the sunroom was actually apatio.
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You would go downstairs fromthe back of the house.
To ground level.
The house was on like a two anda half foot foundation, I think,
thinking back, and they her dadhad built around and over the
patio area, so the floor downthere was literally just brick
and it was um, basically asunroom, tons of windows down
(16:42):
there, and then there was afrench doors that went out to
the carport area, which is aconcrete slab and, you know,
just a makeshift cover for a car, and, um, about 100 feet behind
that there was a oldmother-in-law suite, I guess you
could call it.
They had upstairs anddownstairs.
That was um, really old bricksand stones, um, that was rotten
(17:06):
and falling apart.
That had a bunch of um, reallyantique stuff out there.
I still have, um, and I thinkit's from the 30s or 40s.
It's a ping pong, a tabletopping pong game in the box and
everything that I kept from thatplace, out of that
mother-in-law suite, but had abig yard, I mean, but it looked
(17:28):
really normal, nothing out ofthe way.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Now you've talked.
I just want to tell theaudience this you've talked
about these two guys, aaron andIsaac.
Aaron and Isaac, as I saidearlier, are my two older sons,
and Lee was a friend of theirsand used to come over to my
house often, and now they'veremained friends to this day.
Used to come over to my houseoften and now they've remained
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friends to this day.
And my son, aaron, told meabout some of the experiences
that you're telling me aboutthat you guys had together in
this house, which fascinated meand that's why I wanted to talk
to you about it.
What's unusual is that—notunusual, I'm not going to say
unusual.
Is that not unusual?
I'm not going to say unusual.
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What's fascinating is thatsomeone told you to talk to the
spirit or whatever that wasoccupying the home and it seems
to have kind of the activityseems to have dissipated
somewhat based on you talking tohim.
I worked for a ghost hunter onetime.
She was pretty big into it andshe told me that sometimes the
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houses that she would goinvestigate the spirits would
follow her back to her home andshe would have to talk to them
and tell them that sheacknowledged them, that they
were there and then they wouldthey soon to be happy with that.
So she almost made it seem likethat, as long as someone
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acknowledged that they existed,it kind of helped.
So I wonder obviously I don'tknow this for sure, but I wonder
if just the very fact of youjust even acknowledging that
this spirit existed andapologizing or trying to make
amends, just the very act thatyou communicated with it, maybe
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helped satisfy it a little bit.
I've heard a lot of storiesabout homes being haunted,
occupied by otherworldlypresence, and once they started
communicating with it.
Now I've heard it go the otherway too.
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But I guess there aremalevolent spirits as well that,
no matter what you say, they'rejust there to disturb you.
Well, that, no matter what yousay, they're just there to
disturb you.
But it sounds like this one.
You know, however, you,whatever you did to piss it off,
it wanted to make sure that youknew it was pissed off.
And so it was irritated it was,it decided it was going to get
(20:05):
back at you, even to the even,to the point of breaking things,
which I'm telling you, man, youstayed in that house a lot
longer than I would have.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah, my options were limited, Well.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
I get that and that's what a lot of people say, and
maybe you know it never hurt youphysically.
Another thing I wanted to askyou about you mentioned that
when you woke up, your handswould be crossed over your chest
.
You think that, yeah, you thinkthat whatever did that to you,
yeah, you don't you think thatthe whatever did that to you or
you don't think you did that onyour own?
Speaker 4 (20:36):
I sleep on my stomach and sprawled out, and you know,
everywhere I've lived up untilthere that's how I always woke
up, where I'd wake up on my backsprawled out.
I've never woke up cuddled upwith my arms crossed or anything
like that.
And once I moved out of there,if I remember right, when I
moved out of there, I actuallylived with Aaron for a short
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time and when I lived with himwoke up, normal and everything.
But every time I woke up at 3am at that house my arms were
crossed and my feet it was likeI was in a coffin.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
every night my arms were crossed and my feet.
It was like I was in a coffinevery night yeah that I've never
heard anything like that whereit actually positioned how you
slept while you were asleep.
That's, that's, that's prettycreepy.
So did you ever do any researchjust to like get an idea of who
lived there before?
I know you said quite a fewpeople.
Did you ever look look up, lookit up to kind of see what they
looked like or what thebackground was in the house?
(21:34):
Did you ever do any of that?
Or you just decided it was timeto go and that was it?
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Yeah, once I moved out and everything you know,
before I moved out I talked toher dad about it and he just
told me that it was like theirfamily home, that he had lived
there when he was a kid andaunts, uncles, like it was just
a big family home and um, youknow, I just took that for what
it was worth and I was like,okay, I understood and I wasn't
really big into looking stuff upback then.
(22:00):
So but I did do research on thehouse I live in now and you
know I moved here in 94 and Imoved out when I turned 18.
And you know, throughout mychildhood there was weird stuff
that happened.
But most of my friends and evenmy fiance now, they all say
(22:22):
this place is haunted too.
But I agree with them.
But this, whatever is here, it'sreally cool, it doesn't mess
with you.
You'll definitely hearfootsteps, doors opening and
closing wee hours in the morningbecause, um, she gets up super
early for work, so she hears ita bunch.
Or sometimes you'll be watchingTV at night and it'll smell
(22:44):
like someone lit up a cigarette,like right next to you.
None of us smoke, but um, it'llmove pictures, just turns them
sideways, but um, it'll movepictures, just turns them
sideways and stuff like that,but he doesn't hurt us, he
doesn't aggravate us Um and um.
I'd actually looked around andasked um, the neighbor across
the street, miss Elizabeth.
She's been here 75 years, 80years, before she moved and she
(23:08):
said, yeah, um, she said beforeyour grandmother got the house
there was a Vietnam veteran thathad it and he had a mental
episode and tried to kill hisfamily.
He couldn't, so he killedhimself in the front yard.
And then it was a few yearsafter that my grandparents
bought the house, remodeled itand then they gave it to my
(23:28):
parents.
Then they moved and then I gotthe house.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
So and that's the house you're living in now.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Yeah, down here in Leesburg.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
So you seem to be, I don't know some kind of you have
a way of not attracting thesethings, not attracting these
things, but they but you seem tobe.
There's something like somepeople, or their mind is open to
things and they see things.
I'm not sure how that worksexactly, but I feel like with
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some people, there's some kindof connection between them and
the other side which I I feellike.
I've had some of thatthroughout my years, but nothing
like you're describing.
So I would love to know moreabout that, how that works.
So if you're living in a housenow and you're smelling
(24:22):
cigarettes and pictures arebeing moved and things like that
that's I'm not either one ortwo things happened.
Something followed you, likethis ghost hunter was telling me
about, but apparently it's notmalevolent or you just moved
into another haunted house andit's just bad luck on your part.
(24:44):
Only, in this case it's a goodone and not a bad one.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Yeah, with my luck I wouldn't be surprised.
I don't know if Aaron ever didhe ever tell you about the
cottage I had on the creek?
Speaker 3 (24:57):
No, he didn't.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
So when I lived there , I lived there for a brief
stint by myself next to theKitchen of Mooney Creek.
It was a one-bedroom cottageand our mutual friend, tyler,
came and spent the night.
I think Aaron was there, or itmight have been Isaac, I can't
remember for sure.
But Tyler spent the night andhe woke up at like 6, 7 o'clock
(25:21):
in the morning and he wasfreaking out.
He's like I got to go, I got togo, I got to go and we're like
you know what's going on.
He's like I got to get out ofthis place and he just leaves
and doesn't tell us anything.
And then later on that day whathe experienced it sounds like
sleep paralysis, but he swearsthere's like a ghost in that
place and he never came back andeverything he said.
(25:46):
He woke up, he couldn't move,felt like someone was breathing
on him and you know I never hadexperiences like that in the
cottage.
But Tyler said that was thesecond time he felt like there
was a ghost there and he nevercame back.
But as long as I lived in thatcottage I never felt anything
out the way or nothing weirdhappened besides you know the
neighbor slamming my screen doorbecause it's open on a Saturday
(26:07):
morning and waking me up.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
So wow, dude, yeah, and waking me up.
So, wow, dude, yeah, you seemto have a a knack for for moving
into these places, but you seemto be okay with the place
you're in now.
So, even if it's, even if it'shaunted, as they say, you seem
to be okay with it, I guess.
(26:29):
I guess it's not as bad as thelast place you lived in.
So you, you're like, as long asit's not as long as the last
place you lived in.
So you, you're like, as long asit's not as long as I'm not
waking up with my bodyreposition, I'm okay or someone
running up and down the hallway.
You know it's weird, it's, it'sthere.
A lot of people think that thiskind of stuff is just, you know
, bullshit.
But um, I'm telling you, man,man, I've heard so many stories
(26:53):
just personally of, but you knowthere's so many stories of
these things happening.
I have a couple of my own, likeI said, nothing like yours, and
I've talked to a lot of peoplethrough the years that have
experienced the same thing.
So there is definitelysomething to that.
And I think every house,obviously every house,
(27:15):
especially older homes, do havea history, good and bad.
I mean, people live there, theylive out their hopes and dreams
there.
Bad things happen theresometimes.
Sometimes really tragic thingshappen, and I think it's for me,
I feel like it's almost likeeither their spirits somehow get
stuck in some kind of limbo orI just I don't know.
(27:38):
I don't know if anyone exactlyknows how that works, but I
definitely believe in thosethings and I also believe your
story.
So when Aaron told me about youhaving the stories that you had,
I really was anxious to talk toyou about it and I appreciate
you coming on and telling usabout it, but if you have any
friends that have similarexperiences too, tell them to
(28:03):
reach out.
I love these stories.
I love the one you told.
The one you told probably, asof yet, is the most involved as
far as a ghost story.
It is the most involved as faras a ghost story is the most
involved.
I've heard that I've been upfrom the people that I've
interviewed so far.
So that's a lot, man, for twoyears to stay there for two
years with all of that going on.
(28:24):
That I know you had no otheroptions.
That's a lot.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Yeah, it was rough and, like I said, I didn't
believe in that stuff until Ilived there, but after I moved
out I was you believe it.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Now, I'm a believer yeah that's the way everyone is.
People are always quick to judgethese stories until it happens
to them, and then they're.
They either decide to be inself-denial or they accept it,
and it definitely sounds likeyou accepted it, and me too I
have to.
And, um, I know my.
(28:56):
I know Aaron for sure has hadsome experiences he's told me
about.
I doubt I mean, I don't know ifhe would ever come on the show
or not but they definitelywanted you on.
So I really appreciate youdoing this.
Man, thanks a lot.
Well, what did you guys thinkabout that story with our guest,
lee Welch Quite?
A story he had about hishaunted house, and we really
(29:17):
appreciate him coming on theshow and sharing his story with
us.
And stay tuned, we'll have alot more stories like this,
similar to this, or even on afew different subjects like UFOs
, out-of-body experiences, thosetype of things that are coming
up that we'll be talking.
We'll have guests that we'll betalking to about these things.
So until next time, I'm yourhost, billy Shadow.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
That'll do it for another edition of the show.
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