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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Sonic
Hitchhiker podcast dedicated to
all things strange, mysteriousand just plain out of the
ordinary.
Your guide on this audioodyssey is Billy Shadow.
Billy's travels and experienceshave led him to witness
exorcisms, cult mind controlevents, ghosts and other
supernatural phenomena.
It is because of his interestin these experiences that this
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podcast was created.
And now your host, billy Shadow.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Hello, my friends,
welcome to another episode of
the Sonic Hitchhiker podcast.
Today, as I always say, we havea special guest, and they all
are not a bad way, but today wehave my middle son, isaac
Johnson Joshua Isaac Johnson tobe precise, but he goes by Isaac
, and so today we have him onthe podcast.
He's going to be telling ussome stories that he and I have
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not talked about.
What he's going to be talkingabout, so this ought to be very
interesting and, without furtherado, let me introduce my son,
isaac Johnson.
Go ahead, Isaac, tell us alittle bit about yourself all
the way from Albany, georgia.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Okay, yeah, isaac
Johnson.
I'm 30 years old, married witha two-year-old daughter, daisy
Ray, and what I do for work I'ma special operations manager for
Whistle Express Do programming,timing, help, underperforming
sites.
I've been given the opportunityto go to a lot of cool places
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within my job, so it's been alot of fun.
I've been doing that for a fewyears and recently we started a
training facility in Malden,south Carolina, which is really
cool because we bring people inand train them anything and
everything to do with the carwash industry, so pretty awesome
.
And it's in malden, southcarolina, and we themed it, uh,
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from the show mandalorian, sowhenever you complete the course
, you become a maudalorian, sopretty cool I love that show.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
You like that show,
david mandalorian?
Have you ever seen it?
You're a sci-fi guy, aren't you?
Speaker 4 (02:01):
yeah, I mean, I do, I
do like it, my son likes it,
it's a uh, it's, it's actually agood, I like that.
Um, the plan works, it's uh,you know, get copyright
infringements, no, no but peoplestill understand that yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Well, that's a cool
idea that they yeah we do, uh,
we give awards and stuff.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
So we have three
different type of awards too.
It's, uh, the krogo award, uh,which there could be some
copyright issues going on there.
But we have a krogu award,which is somebody who's new and
willing to learn and apply it,and then we have the you say the
grogu award award.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, now, who came
up with?
Who came up with themandalorian for the who's?
A big fan.
My boss, your boss, is a bigfan of the show.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Yeah, so, um, he's he
, he loves, uh, ideas like that,
like he's all the time tryingto come up with some unique way
to make something fun.
So that's his way ofincorporating what he likes,
which is Mandalorian.
So, but yeah, going back to theawards, we got a Grogu award,
mando award, and then we got theSkywalker award, and Skywalker
is somebody who's willing togive as many, not as much
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knowledge as they have to theteam while they're there getting
the course completed.
So pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
That's pretty cool
that you have a serious business
, but yet you're throwing alittle playfulness in there with
the whole Mandalorian thing,trying to create culture.
No, I like that.
That's cool.
Yeah, levi, your youngestbrother and my son, obviously he
and I have watched all of thoseepisodes of that show.
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Mandalorian is a really goodshow if you're into sci-fi or if
you're into westerns, by theway, because that show is kind
of a reminds me of a western,the way the first Star Wars
really the first Star Wars waskind of a western themed, if you
think about it in a way.
But this one, the Mandalorianhere we are promoting the
Mandalorian, but it's a way.
But this one, the Mandalorian,here we are promoting the
Mandalorian.
But it's a great show and it'sright.
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But it, yeah, it has even theWestern music to it, has like
the whistling and all like theydid in the old West, old Western
movies.
It's really cool.
Anyway, I think that's cool.
I'm very proud of my son here,isaac, because he's very
accomplished in the businessthat he's in and he's really
moved up the chain to become aprominent have, a prominent
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position in the business.
So very proud of that, always,always proud of your children
when they, when you see thembeing successful and you, you
know, you, you, even though youmay not have had a lot to do
with it, you feel like, you feelproud, that you can say your
son is doing very well and hehas a great family and, cute as
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a button, my granddaughter Daisyand his wife, who she said,
don't be talking negative abouther, we won't be, we're not
going to do that you never talknegative about the wife, trust
me.
I've been married 26 years so Iknow do never, never talk uh
negative about the wife for therecord, he said a lot of
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negative stuff about his wifeyesterday when we were on the
phone together now you cannotprove that, I will go to my
deathbed saying that you aretelling a fib, and but you know,
like I always say, she knowswhat you said you will go to
your deathbed yes, but back toyour story about you.
Uh, you're haunting I like howyou're changing the subject,
david I wasn't born yesterday.
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I was born on a day, but it wasnot yesterday well, uh, I say
everyone knows that listens tothis show that we talk about,
not not exclusively, but we dotalk about stories that have to
do with the supernatural, theparanormal, that type of theme
throughout the show.
By the way, our next episode,hopefully, we'll have on a
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friend of mine, sean, who is areally talented musician and
he's in a really good bandcalled Hot Flash and they are
very popular around Atlanta andthey play out quite often.
But he's going to come on andwe're going to actually talk.
Speaking of changing the themeup a little bit, we're going to
be talking about how the mindand the body coordinate together
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when it comes to working outand how your mental state when
you're exercising has really alot more to do with what you're
doing than your physical.
I mean, they go together, butanyway, so we're going to be
talking about that.
But back to Isaac, our guest.
Do you have a particular storyyou want to start with Isaac,
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like a uh, maybe a ghost or asupernatural story or anything
that's unusual that you want totalk about?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yeah, I have a few
stories, um, but just to kind of
give you a background of how wegot to that place.
Uh, you know, me and my friends, we liked it.
We always enjoyed going tolocal haunted places, uh just
around town.
If we could.
Sometimes we would travel aboutan hour radius uh from where we
lived.
Uh, we would just Google what'sthe closest haunted place to us
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and then we would go there justhoping that we'd find something
.
Uh, you know we'd read themyths online and just go there
to really see if we could find,you know, and experience those
things.
So, uh, really enjoyed doingthat.
Um, but yeah, I'll start withuh with one of them.
It's called the seven churches.
Uh, it's actually a dirt roadthat's off hard up road in
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Albany, georgia Years ago, sinceit's been overgrown, even
demolished.
There were actually fourchurches on the main path, but
you had to veer off onto theother dirt roads to get to the
other three.
To my knowledge, I don'tbelieve any of our friends have
ever went to the other three.
I could be wrong on that, butanyway.
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But there's several stories onthe internet explaining things
and experiences that you mighthave during your visits there.
Um, it was, uh.
Also, they had a famousgraveyard leading out to the
main main church that you see,on the first uh set of churches.
It was actually called, uh,stone gardens, which is locals
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called it adam's family graveroad.
Uh, it was, like I said, locatedon a road right before you get
to the main church.
So, and it's a, not a placeyou're supposed to go, it's
actually, uh, a restricted area.
Um, it became private property.
Uh, but sometimes I don't do,we don't do this anymore, so
there's no law involved here.
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But if the gate was open andyou know, then you were able to
access the road.
So that was the way we got downthere.
But some stories I'll give you afew stories about it, some
things that people say you mightexperience.
One of the main ones would bethey actually had a Bible inside
the first church and the storygoes that if you try to remove
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it from the pulpit and walk ittowards the exit of the building
, it would get heavier and youcouldn't get the Bible out of
the church.
So that was one story I've had.
I've heard people say thatthey've, you know, tried doing
that, and some people I feellike we're not telling the truth
and they're like oh, it gotheavier and I don't really know
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if that's true for some of thepeople that I've heard it from,
but, um, we didn't see any bibleor anything like that when we
went.
Uh, on the times that we did sowell, we didn't, we didn't see
anything the the inside of thebuilding.
I mean, it was in pretty roughcondition.
It wasn't like a active churchor anything like that.
So it was pretty rough.
By the time that we startedgoing out there, I think they
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were already.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
And you did that.
Yeah, we went out there atnight.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
You always got to go
to the haunted places at night.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, I know that's
what I was going to say In the
daytime.
It wouldn't be as fun, but didyou feel anything in there?
I mean, it definitely wascreepy.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Just from reading the
stories on the Internet, you
know you get a vibe before youget out there, so you're already
kind of amped up to experiencesomething.
But no, we, we didn't seeanything.
And we walked around thegraveyard.
There's a graveyard off to theside of the main church, so you
can, you can walk around theretoo, Uh, but we didn't, we
didn't hear anything those timesthat we went, but we definitely
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psyched ourselves out becausewe thought we heard something
and we just, you know, gotspooked and took off, you know,
towards the vehicles, like likemost do whenever they get in
that situation.
So, um, but another story is issometimes people experience a
woman walking down the road, uh,the dirt road, uh, in a white
gown.
Um, they always say that you'llsee her in the distance, just
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kind of walking back and forth,and the closer you get she
disappears.
So and then, yeah, in the samethere's multiple stories.
You can google it.
There's uh the seven churchesin albany, georgia.
It's uh considered one of themost haunted places in georgia
but have you ever seen?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
seen it on a TV?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
show or something
where they talk about it
Actually for a Halloween specialyears ago.
I think it was like I want tosay 2016 or 2015,.
They had a segment on it 2015.
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They had a segment on it.
But going to my story, sothat's just giving you a little
background of what goes on outthere.
But I'll start with my story.
One night, a few of our friendshopped in two separate vehicles
heading out there.
Again, gate was open, so we hadfull access, so went out there,
walked around, did everythingthat we could you know, based
off the internet see what wecould experience.
And we weren't really gettinganything.
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So we were like, all right,well, let's go ahead and pack up
, let's get out of here.
So we both we had two vehicles.
I was in the front vehicle.
It was me, aaron, and I want tosay Lee Lee, who was actually
on the podcast too.
We were in the front and thenwe had our friends in the back
in their vehicle, and there werethree guys with them too.
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So we were following each otherout of there.
But then, as we were leaving, wesee these headlights coming.
Well, remember, it's restricted.
So we kind of panicked and wethought it was a cop coming our
way.
So we got a little scared.
So we're like, oh god, we'reabout to get messed up.
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So we pulled over to the side.
But our friends behind us didnot pull over.
So we were like, what are theydoing?
And the car that was coming, itturned on that road to Stone
Garden, which we called it AdamsFamily Grave Road, and whenever
they turned down that road wejust drove forward because we're
like, okay, well, maybe that'sanother group.
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They were just trying to get usout of there and wait for us to
leave so they can go to thechurches.
So when we started leaving, welooked down that dirt road and
we didn't see no taillights.
We didn't see anything.
So we just were like, okay,they turn their lights off,
they're just waiting for us topass and we'll get out of here.
So we ended up meeting towardsthe entrance of where the gate
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is and we asked our friends uh,that was in the car behind us
like hey, did you guys see thatcar?
Like it, we thought it was acop and the weird thing is is
they just kind of looked at usfunny and was like, what car are
you talking about?
And they never saw anyheadlights, they didn't see
anything.
But we did.
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So we got chills obviously.
Uh started like kind of what inthe world just happened?
Like there was a car, plain asday, coming our way.
So we started Googling and aswe were looking at the stories,
things that you would experienceout there, sure enough there's
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one that's called the black carand stories go that some people
would see that car coming downand they would always turn down
Adams family grave road.
So, yeah, so that was whetheror not somebody I don't know if
they were behind us a certainway, who knows but the fact that
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they didn't even see headlightsand we did like it was clear as
day was pretty spooky anddefinitely was like okay, okay,
I think we experienced something.
So, out of all the years ofgoing places and trying to see
something, I I feel like we didthat night.
So really cool, yeah, butreally cool well, that's.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
It was worth.
It sounds like it was worthyour, your efforts to try to see
anything or feel something inthat area.
So, okay, well, that turned outthat wasn't a fruitless venture
, that you went on as far astrying to see something.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah, we've been out
there multiple times and, just
like, I mentioned just nothing,so that was really cool.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah, you know the
next.
Well, I don't know aboutwhenever, at some point when I
go to Albany, I think I'd liketo go.
Is it still there?
Speaker 3 (14:35):
It's all over the
ground torn down, proper
property.
It's pretty aggressive now soyou can't.
I don't believe you can go outthere, and if you do, they say
the stories live on like eventhough they're not there anymore
.
If you look it up on Google,they still say that people that
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actually live out towards thearea on Hard Up Road they say
that you can still hear thingsthat people say that they hear,
and so they say the stories liveon At some point on the podcast
.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
David and I have
discussed it before.
We are in what?
Maybe we'll do it, I don't know.
Maybe we'll do it beforeHalloween or around Halloween.
I think I want to find a placein the Atlanta area, maybe to
start with, that's supposedlyhaunted or has some haunted
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folklore to it and go see if Ifeel anything or sense anything.
That's something we're going todo eventually, something like
what you and your friends weredoing with the seven churches,
just to see, except we'll do itlegally we were young and dumb.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Well, it was just
last year, right.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
That was about 13
years ago, my friend.
Wow, 13 years.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Well, hey, we all we
all grow up, you know, my friend
.
Wow, 13 years.
Well, hey, we all grow up, youknow.
But I would be scared.
I mean I would be scared if Isaw headlights and your friend
said they didn't see anything.
I would piss my pants, to behonest with you.
I'd be like, okay, this isweird.
But I mean it is Albany.
I mean, have you ever been toValdosta?
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I've been to've have you everbeen to Valdosta?
There's a lot of probably got.
I I grew up in Valdosta and Iwent.
They had a haunted house at theuh, at the air force base, the
Moody air force base, and itscared the crap out of me and
I've not liked haunted housessince then.
It was in like a old army tentit was, and it had nothing to do
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with like scary, spooky thingsout.
But I I'm just not a I'm justnot a scary type of person.
You know I like to.
I do not like things justcoming out.
My son does that every day.
He can try, he hides and he Igo hey, hey, where are you,
where are you, buddy?
He just scares the crap out,crap out of me.
I'm not a person who I like togo to graves.
I mean I have a place that wecould probably go to, a very
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historic cemetery here inAtlanta, oakland Oakland
Cemetery.
I have a lot of family that'sburied there so we could go over
there and see if you feelanything.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah, I've been to
the Oakland Cemetery.
I have been there but not for a, you know, to see if it was
haunted, but they actually had.
There's a family there at theOakland Cemetery in Atlanta.
It's a big cemetery.
It's really cool, very old.
I don't know if it's the oldest, is it the oldest cemetery?
Yeah, the oldest cemetery inAtlanta.
But they actually have a familythat loved music and they will
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allow once a year, I I think,the band to actually play on the
graves and so I've been to thatwhere that's like I want to say
they had like candlelight andall.
But it was actually pretty cooland the band was, uh, very
alternative.
Uh, it was a good band for thegraveyard, put it that way, and
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that was a good.
That was pretty cool.
But obviously when you havepeople out there partying, it's
not all.
You don't get this haunted vibe.
But yeah, there's some places.
To me I find graveyards thatare not so popular as the
creepiest.
Like if you go to an old, ifyou're traveling and I've done
this and this I've done youtravel at night and you see an
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old graveyard just in the middleof nowhere and maybe there's
like 20 graves there withheadstones.
If you stop and get out.
You just kind of I don't knowTo me.
I always think about who couldbe there.
I'll read the gravestones,things like that.
That is interesting to me, butI've never really seen anything
in a graveyard that would botherme.
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But so you had the sevenchurches experiences, the
experiences, and then you hadone where you actually saw a
some headlights.
That may have been the part ofthe black car legend that they
talked about, so that's prettycool yeah, do you have any other
stories like that?
Speaker 3 (18:50):
I'm actually jumping
ahead of what I had, but uh,
it's a it it regards a graveyard, so it's relevant.
Um, it's uh, so this place it'scalled cell city.
Um, this was another graveyardthat aaron found.
I'm not really sure if it wasdeemed haunted, but it was a
super creepy place.
Way out in the country, about45 minutes from where we live in
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Albany.
I've been to Chelsea.
That's a small town.
Yeah, it's a really small townPretty remote.
Yep, it's in Georgia.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
In Georgia.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
But definitely I
don't know where Aaron found
this, but, like I said, he wouldtake his friends sometimes and
a few times I ended up goingwith him and during one of those
times, one night, a few of ourfriends went there, trying to
get obviously a good scare, asusual.
And well, that night weactually kind of did.
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Because I want to also give thedescription of how you get out
there.
Like most creepy places it'sdown a long dirt road, go figure
in the middle of nowhere.
But when you get out therethere's the church in the center
and then you have two sides ofthe grave.
So you got what we consideredthe good side.
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And then there was another side, on the opposite side of the
church, which we always callthat the bad side.
The reason we call it the badside was because on one side you
had on the good side Sorry, I'mlike good and bad, but anyway,
on the good side you had it looknormal for the most part, but
there was one tombstone thatthere was this little girl's
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grave that they had like adollhouse, for I guess she
really enjoyed dolls and so I'massuming her family built a
dollhouse.
So we we took a few picturesaround there and we had, like I
don't know if we had bugs goingover the camera or whatever.
What you know, you hear peoplesay when they take pictures and
you see orbs, those are signs ofspirits, but anyway.
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And then, on the bad side,there were these tombstones that
had chains in the form of an Xover them.
It was super creepy, so wealways called that the bad side.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Yeah, that's weird.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
We looked it up, I
believe those Xs of chains.
I can't remember who looked itup, but on the internet it was
saying that it was a way to keepthe bad spirits in and not
allowing them to escape.
So not sure if that was thepurpose of there, but it
definitely gave a creepy vibe,especially when you're out there
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at night and uh the chains wereon the tombstones.
So really creepy, um, but wewent out there that night just
doing the, you know, doing thenormal walk around trying to see
if we could hear anything,taking pictures, whatever, uh,
but then as we went from thegood side around trying to see
if we could hear anything takingpictures, whatever, but then as
we went from the good side andtransitioned over to the bad
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side, we were sitting there alltalking, we were trying to
figure out what those chainswere and all these things.
And while we were sitting therediscussing all that out of
nowhere, all at one time we hadabout seven people out there and
all at the same time we heard aloud like noise come behind,
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like pass through all of ourears.
We just all like got chills,just stopped what we were doing
and we just looked at each otherand took off.
It only took one guy to makethe move and we all booked it to
the truck and to the vehiclesand hopped over flaps, did
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whatever we had to do to getinside that freaking car and
slammed the door and juststarted booking it down that
dirt road to get the heck out ofthere.
So that was the experience wehad out there.
Um, that's the most likeinteractive thing that I believe
that any of them's everexperienced.
While going out there again,they've been out there more than
I have, so that just happenedto be one of the one of the
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times I went with them and itwas.
It was a super creepy.
Don't know what that was.
It could have been anything,there could have been who knows
what.
But we just thought like as wewere sitting there talking about
you know the chains and allthese things out of nowhere, we
just heard that loud whooshsound just pass through all of
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our ears and we were just likewhat in the world was that?
And just took off.
So, but that's, that's the,that's uh that I have for cell
city.
Um, it's a cool place to go to.
Uh, it's not, it's not arestricted area or anything like
that.
So, uh, we're actually uh, byand by the law, david, believe
it or not.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Well, that reminds me
when I was uh, I think about
this story sometimes but Ialways forget to bring it up but
when I was, I want to say, nineyears old.
You know, I've lived in so manyplaces as a kid, it's hard to
always keep up with the timestamps or whatever on your life.
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But so my buddy, I had a buddy,kurt Harbuck, who is now
married to my sister, but he andI were really good buddies back
then and we had our bikes.
This was back when your parentswould just say go, leave the
house and you may just come backfor dinner.
They may not see you all day,you just take your bikes and you
go.
This was in Americus Georgia, inAmericus Georgia I can't
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remember the name of thecemetery, but it's still there.
Obviously it's a big cemetery,the biggest one in america's,
and it's full of history, richhistory, a lot of it civil war
history.
So it's just a lot going on inthat.
But they have these smallmazalems where they have these
little houses in the graveyardthat have drawers inside that
dead bodies were kept in, youknow, buried in, and they just
put them in these drawers.
And Kurt and I one night gotthe idea to hop the fence
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because I think they kept it atnight.
They kept it closed.
So we got our bikes.
I think we either hopped thefence or there was an opening
somewhere and we decided to gothrough the graveyard.
And the thing about this is atypical horror movie atmosphere.
It was not raining but it wasdark.
It got dark early.
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It was one of those.
It was when it gets dark early,you know whatever.
So it was around what, fallautumn something, something like
that.
But the wind was blowing.
I remember that we have ourlittle jackets and everything,
so we hop the fence or we gothrough, I can't remember which.
So we did, we walked throughthe graveyard, just trying to
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see.
You know how it feels.
And then we saw this mausoleumthat had the door bent at the
bottom, where it had like acrack big enough where you could
actually go in there.
There were leaves on the floorinside because it had not been
well maintained, and so the sopicture it's the moon shining
pretty bright, the wind'sblowing, and these two kids
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decide we're going to go intothis mausoleum and we go through
the, we squeeze through thebottom of the door that was bent
and we go inside and there wereall these drawers you know
around.
It wasn't huge, I would guessto say there's maybe 10, 15.
It wasn't a lot, but they eachhad a plaque on them telling who
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was in this particular spot,and we didn't have a flashlight
or anything.
Like I said, the moon wasshining bright so you could kind
of see they had like littlecracks.
You could they coming throughthe little building there.
But I remember we were in therejust looking around and the
winds blowing the leaves underthe door.
Now to this day we, I can saymaybe a branch flew out of a
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tree or something.
But we're sitting there readingthe plaques and suddenly just a
big bang happened on one of the.
It sounded like it happened inone of the drawers, just like a
huge bang.
Now it could very well be justsomething on the outside that
hit, but we were so scared thatwe fought each other to try to
(27:07):
get out of that little crack,like we were pushing each other
trying to get out from underthat little crack in the door.
And we did.
We didn't even look to see ifit was a branch or what.
We were A picture two kidsrunning through the graveyard
trying to get back to yourbicycles.
Because I swore both of us didlike we looked at each other
(27:28):
when that bang happened.
We looked at each other like ohmy God, and so we were fighting
each other to get out fromunder the crack of the door.
But and then I'm sure there's alogical explanation for that.
But, man, when you're insidethat little mausoleum it already
has a creepy vibe, windsblowing like in a typical movie,
and then that big big.
(27:48):
It was a big bang too, likeboom, you know, right on the,
and it sounded like it was inone of the drawers.
I'm sure it wasn't, but it justit had enough of an impact that
I'm sure if someone wereoutside the gate and they said,
what are these two kids runningthrough the graveyard?
Or maybe they stopped, maybethey thought they saw a vision,
yeah, probably.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
It's running through
the graveyard we had our little
windbreakers on.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
I'm sure it was quite
a sight.
It's running through agraveyard.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
But we got on our
bikes and we we hauled butt out
of there, man, we we never wentback to that graveyard but, like
I said, the wind was blowing.
I'm sure it was something thatjust hit the side of the
building, but it was enough toget these two kids, oh yeah you
know, speaking of america's,have you uh looked up the
windsor hotel?
(28:43):
uh, yeah, as a matter of fact,your mom and I stayed in the
winter hotel.
Do you know that story?
Yeah, we did ask her.
Yeah, her and I stayed in thewinter hotel because it was such
an old hotel and they hadrestored it.
They had just restored it,that's like a and we stayed in
it.
It's a very creepy looking roomthat we stayed into.
(29:06):
It was a very nice hotel, bythe way.
It was for us back then.
It was quite a thing to dobecause it was a little
expensive.
It just opened up and it's veryhistorical?
Speaker 3 (29:18):
I don't, but it is a
very elegant type of hotel.
It's crazy because it almostreminds me of the shining hotel.
Uh, it's got the same vibe toit, yeah no, I have not.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
That's actually.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
You stayed in it the
uh most haunted places in
georgia as well yeah, that'swhat.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
That's what they even
said back then.
But we stayed in it and theroom was creepy and I can
imagine if you're with someoneit's not so bad, right.
But if you're staying in thatone of those rooms by yourself
and you have this and youalready have a tendency to think
about, you know, hauntings andthat type of if you have that
mentality that I can see whereyou might be creeped out,
(30:05):
because the rooms are very.
They were nice but they werestill antique-ish looking and
they had this vibe about them.
The whole hotel.
It's very historic and, likeyou said, it's one of the most
haunted places supposedly inthat area.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
I didn't have an
experience given some, um, from
what I've seen online, uh, theyactually I don't know if this is
true, but they blocked off, Iwant to say, like the top floor,
to where you can't stay in anyof the rooms on the top floor.
Uh, yeah, I believe so.
Um, I'd have to Google it, butI'm pretty positive it's on
there.
They, uh, they said the reasonis because the people that
(30:37):
stayed in those rooms on the topfloor, um, some people
experienced some pretty uhhorrific sounds.
They, they claim they've seen,you know, spirits walking down
the halls.
You hear footsteps, like allthese type of things.
So they just blocked off thetop, uh floor altogether.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
So I'd love to stay
in that.
I'd love to go visit.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Well, then again,
that was on the internet, and
that was from years ago, somaybe you can now and maybe
you'll experience somethingmaybe I'll check that out
there's.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I just want to go to
some place where there is
definitely some you know they'vedefinitely people have
definitely experiencedparanormal activities in a
certain area.
Um, although you may get morethan you bargain for, I don't
know if you've ever seen that,or read the book, or seen the
movie 1408 by stephen king,which is about a guy trying to
(31:32):
see something and he finallydoes to his detriment, but
that's a good one.
Now I want to, I want to, Iknow you want to.
I know you have this story too,so I'm gonna, I'm gonna wrangle
you into it.
Uh, speaking of america'sgeorgia, this is America's
Georgia.
This is a little darker.
This story is a little darker,and this one, actually, I've
heard about since I was a child,especially when we lived in the
(31:56):
America's Georgia area.
There is a bridge that isfamously haunted.
It's called the three bridges,right, three bridges road, but
(32:16):
they call it the lee bell bridge.
And now I'm gonna let you tellthe story of why they call it
that and what happened.
And this is a very dark subject, in my opinion, because it
involves murder, um, which a lotof.
They say a lot of hauntedplaces that are haunted because
of violence.
A lot of violence is definitely, definitely holds a an
(32:37):
atmosphere of paranormalactivity, because a lot of
people in this field and I'vetalked to some ghost hunters who
say this Speaking of that, Iwant to get your friend and my
friend, matt Matt's dead man Ikeep putting that shout out.
He's a ghost hunter.
I'd love to have him on, ifsomeone could give a shout out
to him.
(32:59):
But yeah, there's people thatsay that when there is a violent
murder, the more violent, themore haunted that area is,
because there is a lack of if,especially if the murder was
never completely solved.
Supposedly there's a, there's alingering spirit in those
places.
I'm obviously I can't confirmthat, but that's what a lot of
(33:21):
people that are into this typeof um thing say.
People that are into this typeof thing say people that are
into the paranormal and thatinvestigate it for a living and
do that type of thing.
They they claim that the moreviolent the death, the more
haunted the area can be, forwhatever reason.
Now, if you will, I'll let youtell the story of the lee bell,
the three bridges road, the leebell bridge in america's georgia
(33:43):
, and people can also look thisup online as well and tell the
story.
Do you mind telling it?
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (33:49):
it's located in
Americas, georgia, as mentioned,
three Bridges Road.
The story goes that there was acheerleader that was being
asked out by this guy over andover, but she turned him down
every single time.
And the guy was so frustratedthat one night, during a
football game where she wascheerleading at, he actually
siphoned most of her gas out ofher car.
(34:11):
He followed her after the gameuntil she ran out of gas that
night and obviously he wastelling her the whole time.
So he he waited for the perfectmoment, unfortunately, and
actually took her to anabandoned building or abandoned
house pretty close by andactually tied her to the tree
(34:34):
and, I believe, stoned her todeath so extremely brutal and
then he took her body back tothe bridge where she broke down
at and dumped her body over intothe creek.
Now there's a ton of ghoststories that people say that
they experience online whilevisiting those bridges road.
(34:56):
There's actually three bridges,but the first two are connected
, so it's an extremely longbridge in the middle of, again,
in the middle of nowhere downthis road.
So, yeah, that's that's thebackground of what happened.
I know there's more detailsonline for that, but you can
(35:17):
look it up.
It's pretty horrific, but yeah,so there's.
There's a few stories Surroundedthat that incident that people
say they experience.
Uh, one of the stories is, ifyou drive out there late at
night, typically around 12o'clock, turn your car off, put
your keys on the top of the roof, uh, with your windows down.
(35:37):
If you wait a few minutes, um,and you go to reach up and grab
the keys, they say thatsometimes the keys will be
repositioned to another spot oreven to the whole other side of
your vehicle, to the passengerseat on top of the vehicle.
So that's one of the mainstories that people have online,
(35:58):
that they go out there andexperience and others, or you
might hear her moan, yelling forhelp with your vehicle off.
But they and there's otherthings they say that they
sometimes, if you, if you're outthere long enough, you might,
you know, see a vision of her,uh, somewhere.
So those are, those are a fewof the few of the stories, um,
(36:18):
and again, there's there'smultiple uh, if you look them up
online.
But, uh, my story for for thisone would be one night, our
family, you know, decided totake us out there to the bridge.
It was, I believe it was, uh,our, our mom, uh, I believe, our
uncle and a few other familymembers went out there with us
(36:40):
it was me, erin, I believe,believe Brooke was with us too
my sister and so went out thereand they were going to try this,
this, turning the vehicle off,putting the keys on top of the
car truck.
So when we got out there didthat, my uncle put his keys up
top, with the vehicle off.
(37:01):
For a little while we didn'thear anything.
Uh, I believe it was a littlewindy uh, that night.
So obviously we you think youhear something, but not really
anything.
So he grabbed his keys from thetop.
They didn't move, um, um,nothing.
So we were like, oh, all right,nothing's going on.
So then he goes to try to crankhis vehicle up.
(37:22):
Nothing happened.
His vehicle was just dead inthe water, not doing nothing.
So we all in the vehicle,panicked, panicked, didn't know
like what was going on.
We thought he was playingaround with us.
We were like, all right, stopplaying with us.
Like we were freaking outbecause we were young kids, so
like we were scared to death.
And uh, then, uh, her mom, uh,I believe, started freaking out
(37:46):
a little bit about it because wewere like what is going on.
He was trying to crank his carup and nothing was happening.
So after a few tries he finallygets it to crank and once he
does that, we get the heck outof there like it was the
craziest thing and I actuallyrecently looked that up of other
(38:07):
experience that people have outthere, and one of them being
that if you turn your vehicleoff, even if you try the key
trick or not, and you go to tryto crank your vehicle back up,
sometimes you'll have issuescranking it because she wants
you to feel like she felt thatnight that the incident happened
(38:28):
.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Wow, you know, when I
lived in america's georgia as a
kid, I remember there was a uh,we were talking.
I don't know if it was dad orsomeone was talking.
There was a couple that didn'tknow that story that we were
talking to, or someone wastalking to in our group, I can't
remember who, but they were ayoung couple.
(38:54):
Again, I may be getting thedetails completely wrong, but I
do know it was a couple and theyhad said that when they went
across that bridge that helooked the guy driving the
boyfriend, husband, whateverfelt some weird thing and looked
in his rearview mirror and sawa woman sitting in the back seat
(39:17):
.
For just a minute, for I mean aminute, a second you know, just
that's when you look back andthey were gone, but he said it
freaked them out a lot, they andthey didn't want it, they
didn't want to go back over thatbridge for whatever reason.
So, yeah, there are some things, there are a lot of stories
like that.
Um, I've never had, you know,I've had some weird things
happen that we've talked about.
Um david and I and guest havetalked about on previous
(39:42):
episodes of the podcast, butthat type of thing I can't say
I've ever had that happen to mewhere I actually had a.
I mean, I've seen ghosts.
It's only one time I saw three,of course, when I was a kid,
but other than that I've neverreally seen anything more
extreme, like someone sitting inthe back seat, sitting beside
(40:02):
me or any of that, but thatwould definitely freak you out.
Uh, if you got on that road andknew the story and that car
wouldn't crank, or if you sawsomeone in the back seat I don't
know which one is worse,probably seeing someone.
I don't know either one because, yeah, especially when you know
the story and the history ofthe place that you're in, that's
well, that's creepy.
(40:22):
Um, before we wrap it up and Ireally appreciate those stories,
isaac, I lost you, didn't I?
Or did I?
No, there did I lose you?
No, I see you, okay, okay, allright yeah, I'm sure you see me.
Okay, that's fine.
That's good, david, as long asI can see.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Oh, you were looking
at the hotel yeah oh, you did
that I could show david what thehotel.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
We're looking at the
winter hotel Hotel.
You see that Windsor Hotel,david, oh, I definitely see it.
I know this is audio only, butIsaac bought a picture of the
hotel so we could look at it andhis mom and I and I know people
are thinking man, billy, you'vegot kids everywhere Because we
talk like this, you know.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
And actually on our
YouTube version, like that,
we're going to put stream audioand we'll we'll have pictures of
the the windsor hotel.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Yeah, yeah, out there
so yeah, we'll do that.
But the windsor hotel see, it'sbeautiful.
It's beautiful.
We're looking at pictures ofthe windsor.
If you get a chance uh, youlistening, look up it's.
It's one of supposedly one ofthe most haunted areas in
haunted places in that area ofAmerica's Georgia.
But it's a beautiful hotel.
They restored it.
I forget when Isaac's mom and Istayed in this as a treat.
(41:44):
We stayed in it one night andit was beautiful but definitely
had a vibe of you just felt likeyou were back in time and
that's on purpose, because theythey restored it, but they kept
it to to the way.
They kept to the true way itwas back in the day.
(42:05):
I don't even think they had tvsum, your mom could attest to
that, maybe I can't remember.
I don't even think they had tvsin the room, I think they just
back then.
Anyway, when we stayed there,they just tried to keep it as
historical as possible, but itwas a great experience there, um
, so what I wanted to say islet's, I want to, before we
(42:26):
leave, I want to lighten themood up because this is
something that I'd like to startdoing with people, just because
it's a fun topic for me and Italked to your brother when he
was on here last time, aaron, um, and so what?
What it was on on?
Let's, let's see, let give meyour top three favorite horror
movies of all time.
(42:47):
Oh, you, just you can.
You know, I know there's a lotto choose from, but if you had
to come up with three on off thetop of your head, what are the
three?
I know david said his favoritehorror movie is the goon that's
a good movie I'm not gonnadiscredit that get involved with
david.
David doesn't know what I wantum no, but not, not a horror
(43:08):
movie, though he didn't say itwas a horror movie.
He just said he doesn't likeanyways, but go ahead but uh,
yeah, um three movies, let's see.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
Conjuring is
definitely.
Uh, gotta be on the top forprobably one of the freakiest
movies that I've seen.
That movie makes my skin crawl.
Uh, I barely.
Oh well, I've actually watchedthat movie by myself um a few
times, but it's creepy as allget out.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
The woman on top of
the cupboard is the worst part
of me, but uh that's the one youknow, isaac, or isaac uh levi,
um, my youngest, your brother,uh, he wanted to.
He said dad, can I watch alittle bit of that movie?
(43:57):
I said, yeah, you can watchsome of it and as soon as he saw
, that woman on the cupboard.
He said I want to go to my roomand play.
That was good for him.
I don't blame him, because inthe theater that that scene I
mean, I had popcorn that made mejump.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
I just uh, so the
conjuring, um, I would say go
ahead.
Second movie is going to be thesinister.
That's actually's actually toprated for one of the creepiest
horror movies ever made, sothat's always a good one.
Ethan Hawke I just like howreal he is in the movie because
he reacts like most people wouldin those situations.
(44:29):
So I think, it's a really goodtake on that, even with his
voice, him trying to yell, andhis voice is like kind of kind
of fading away because he can'tyell like he he wants to.
So I really like that aboutthat movie, along with a bunch
of other things that happens, um, and then also this is kind of
like a hidden gem, but theblackwell ghost yeah, it's more
(44:54):
of a documentary yeah, it's aguy who films himself, if you're
not familiar uh films himself.
He stays in this uh place that'ssupposedly haunted and puts his
camera up and I honestlythought for the short period of
time that I saw it, uh, Ithought it was real because I
thought it looked so likedocumentary-ish.
(45:14):
So I was like could this bereal?
And then you find out it was.
It's not, but anyway, uh, stillsuch a good movie, so I would
say that's probably got to be inmy top three.
Knows the most top three.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
That's a good top
three I agree with, especially
with two of those I definitely.
Darkness falls is another goodone it's.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
It's an oldie, but a
goodie.
And that one unfortunatelysticks with me because me and
Aaron, when we were kids, wewent to go see Grandma and
Grandpa in Tennessee and y'allwere watching that movie.
We weren't allowed to watch it,but me and Aaron actually
crawled out from it and we werehiding behind the couch while
(45:55):
y'all were watching it.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
You were watching it.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
And saw a good bit of
it, freaked the crap out of us
and really and then hadnightmares from then on, but but
uh, you mentioned this actuallyon.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
The last one, I
believe, was uh, sleepy hollow,
right not that it was a scary,but you mentioned it, we because
aaron and I we were talkingabout.
He said well, you never let uswatch scary movies when we were
little, but I remember lettingyou guys watch that.
(46:28):
We watched that a lot.
Sleepy hollow was well, if youhad, if you had a surround sound
like we did, sleepy hollow wasa great surround sound movie.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
And if you were a kid
it's freaky because they cut
people's heads off and all that.
But I was saying that movie inparticular because, if you
remember, there was a time wherewe had sorry to put you out on
this, but we had we had mousetraps under the couch.
Yeah, yeah, the time that wewere, um, we were watching the
(47:00):
movie.
We had mice, so do you rememberthe same time that it was a part
of the scene where one of theheads got cut off?
The rat trap went off at thesame time.
It scared the crap out of us.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
I don't remember that
, but uh, that would be fun one
thing that uh our daddy hereused to do to us is after we
watched a movie.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
He used to always
make us go get tools out of the
shed at night.
You remember that you did?
Speaker 2 (47:30):
yeah, I think I did
that on purpose I just wanted to
see if you would go do it.
But the shop was separated fromthe house.
It was out and we we didn'tlive.
It wasn't like in the countrywhere there were no other houses
around, but it was out, kind ofin in a wooded area behind the
house.
So that shop was kind of creepyenough at night.
(47:53):
So if I was an old, I would justwant to see if one of you guys
would actually go get a tool outvery creepy, but that was a
yeah little yeah, trick that heused to like to play on.
You know, one movie thatfreaked me out a little bit and
I always forget about it was thefirst the ring movie, the first
one yeah they could be comingout of the tv forever, the only
(48:16):
thing that I think, and that washere the ring is scary.
Movie three well, they kind of,yeah, those movies kind of yeah,
they kind of made that, theykind of made the original movies
not as scary because they madeit, they made fun of it so much.
But yeah, well, they made it,they made fun of it so much.
(48:39):
But yeah, well, I think we'llend it because we're almost
we're close to the hour markactually.
So I want to thank my son,isaac, for being on the podcast
today.
We had a lot of fun talkingabout various subjects, mostly
about some good ghost storiesand movies, and I will say I
want to say I'm I'm very, it'svery.
I'll say it again, it's verysurreal to have a podcast and
have your children now that aregrown on it Even had Levi on
(49:02):
there, who's just turned 11recently.
I had him on the last episodeas well, in a little piece of it
.
But I'm very proud of all of mychildren.
They've all made me proud andthe older ones are all
successful and on their ownhomes, have great families and
as a father you can't ask formore than that and I love them
(49:23):
all and I'm very happy that wehad Isaac on the podcast today
and, who knows, maybe they'llall make an appearance one day
together.
That would be cool.
Even might get my daughter onhere at some point if I could
talk her into it.
I don't know that she would doit, but that would be fun.
And coming up next episode,hopefully, we'll have a musician
(49:46):
.
A local, very popular localmusician, sean Blanket, will be
on, giving us going a little bitdifferent direction with the
the, the way the mind and thebody work together when it comes
to exercise.
And, who knows, he may have aghost story to tell or have
someone that he knows has onethat he can tell us.
So until then, this is BillyShadow signing off on the Sonic
(50:08):
Hitchhiker Podcast.
We will come at you next time.
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