May 20, 2025 • 32 mins
When your emotions are all over the place, it’s easy to fall for everything and anything. You’re easy to manipulate.
On some level you know this, so you tuck those damn emotions aside, ignore them or try to control them - which only makes things worse. They come out at the most inopportune times.
Sound familiar?
The truth is, emotions are not a flaw to be overcome, they are one of the amazing gifts of being human. They are literally energy in motion, and as such, not only feed us, but are also a powerful path to healing what ails us.
Working with (instead of stuffing, ignoring or controlling) emotions gives you space to listen and to respond rather than just react. It engenders clarity and empowers healthy decisions. It calms the nervous systems and decreases stress.
This is an essential skill for all of us right now for what it can heal - individually, and collectively.
“If we don't feel, we don't heal.” ~Stephanie J. Allen
There is a negative feedback loop running - thoughts and fears and emotions that fester and create inner AND outer toxicity. The good news is that we are the antidote.
It’s a choice inside each one of us.
In today’s podcast, Stephanie and Maren share stories, inspiration and tangible tools to help you shift your internal relationship with emotions so you become your own cure, as well as a kind of “healthy virus” in the world, infecting the people around you in the best, most beautiful way.
When you work inside, it changes, both the internal AND the external. You impact the world around you just by being who you are.
Are you ready to explore emotions differently and find your inner treasure so that you can live it and share it with those you love and with the world?
Listen in and let’s make some shift happen.
- 0:32 Everything conspiring
- 1:28 Clean break
- 5:09 Happening ‘for me, or to me’ choice
- 8:27 If you don’t feel you don’t heal
- 11:36 I got things to do!
- 14:06 Clearing the toxicity
- 19:22 Making it conscious so you can repeat it
- 21:54 It’s not you
- 24:07 Ancient wisdom
- 25:59 We are the antidote
- 28:21 Pain or buried treasure
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Stephanie Allen (00:04):
In a world where we have everything and
it's still not enough, we'reoften left wondering, is this
really it?
Maren Oslac (00:10):
Deep inside you know, there's more to life
you're ready to leave behind theold push your way through and
claim the deeper, moremeaningful life that's calling
you.
Stephanie Allen (00:19):
That's what we invite you to explore with us.
We're your hosts, StephanieAllen
Maren Oslac (00:25):
and Maren Oslac And this is The Soulful Leader
Podcast.
Stephanie Allen (00:30):
Yay! Hi! Welcome to The Soulful Leader
Podcast. This is Stephanie. I'mhere with Maren, and I'm super
excited because we are unpackinga little bit of what we talked
about last week, which was aboutinner mastery, and why, you
know, what it is, and why it'simportant. And it just really
(00:50):
occurs to me, boy, isn't itinteresting? Like, when you you
start to have an awareness ofsomething you want to talk
about, then it's like everythingin the universe happens to bring
up, like, your table of contentsabout what, what you're gonna,
like, you know, really talkabout. And that's kind of what
happened. Is really interesting.
I want to start with a personalstory that literally happened...
Maren Oslac (01:09):
It's kind of like, you know, when you go shopping
for a car and you've nevernoticed that particular car, and
now all of a sudden, you'relike... Oh, my God, they're
everywhere.
Stephanie Allen (01:17):
I know, I know.
Maren Oslac (01:19):
It's your reticular activation system actually
zooming in on those things thatlike... Oh, you want to know
more about that here, let meshow you.
Stephanie Allen (01:28):
Yeah, it's almost like, be careful what you
wish for, because it'll, youknow, the universe will provide
it. So you want to have somesort of clarity and articulation
around what it is you want, sothat you know it comes in a way
that surprises and delights youinstead of like causes you pain
and suffering, right? So, youknow, I'm gonna start with a
little story that just reallyleads into some of the powerful
(01:51):
reasons of why inner mastery hasbeen so important to me. You
know, this morning, I had theluxury of, for a while, actually
had a luxury of having a morningoff that I could do a little bit
more of my inner masterypractices. And, you know, just
had such a wonderful time. And Iwent outside to take out the
(02:13):
garbage, and I tripped, and Ilanded in a really funky
position that caused my arm tobreak. And as I'm laying there
feeling, you know, am I going toeither poop my pants or throw
up, or what do I do? Because I'msingle, I live alone, and I
didn't have my phone on me...
help, I've fallen and I can'tget up, kind of feeling, I just
started to automatically defaultto the natural practices that I
(02:36):
knew and I went, you know, Icalled my my mom. Thank God I
still have my mom. Reallygrateful. So I call my mom,
because that's what we alwaysdo. We call our mom even if
they're not alive anymore, westill call our mom. I want my
mom and in our own hearts. Iswear. Anyway, she was able to
come over and took me right upto the hospital. And, you know,
(02:58):
I live in Canada, and we kind ofhave this belief system that our
medical system takes a longtime. Doesn't cost any money,
but it takes a long time, and itmay not always be the best care.
And I think that is a bunch ofhooey pooey for me. I'm so
fortunate that I went up thismorning, and within an hour, I
had an x ray, saw the doctor,you know, got the diagnosis, got
(03:21):
a cast on it, and I wasreleased, and it cost me
nothing. I was very grateful.
And the beauty of it is, how Iwas treated, it was with such
kindness. Now, why I say this isbecause one of the side effects,
I like to call it, of doing yourown inner work, is that you have
(03:45):
space inside yourself to listenand to respond rather than just
react and go into I call it thecacapoopooness stories. You
know, it's like, oh my gosh,what am I going to do? It's my
right hand. I'm right handed.
Now I have a cast on for sixweeks. I can't work, body work,
blah, blah, blah, blah. I mean,I could've gone down that dark
(04:07):
alley for a long, long time. AndI laugh because... it you know,
you know, you're making adifference in people's lives,
when the very people that I hadto call and cancel for today are
actually feeding me back thehigher story of what I would
have told them and for example,you know, the doctor that that
(04:31):
looked after me, he said, youknow, you got a clean break. If
you were going to break yourarm, this is probably the best
one to break, you know, becauseit's really clean, you're not
going to need surgery, and I'llsee you in four weeks, kind of
thing. And my client was saying,you know, ha, I wonder what the
universe has for you for thenext six weeks. And of course, I
(04:52):
talked to Maren today, andMaren, of course, reminded me to
say, you got a clean break. Likeyou have a break, an opportunity
to then learn or be or do or beavailable for what wants to
happen.
Maren Oslac (05:08):
And I think it's so important that that that mental
shift from this happened to meto this happened for me, which
can be so hard when it impactsall of the things that you were
talking about, right? So thereis a downline impact, and there
(05:30):
are so many effects from it'syour right hand, you work on
people's bodies for a living.
There's like so many levels ofthings that people may not
realize that this actuallyimpacts you, or impacts your
life, and keeping thatattunement, which is because we
both do regular practices, itwas funny because earlier, when
(05:56):
I was talking to Stephanie, Isaid, my friend Stephanie,
happens to be this Stephanie,the thing she always says is, we
do our practices when we don'tneed them, so that they're there
for us when we do - and I justwant to share like the things
that I witnessed when I heardthe story today was the first
thing I noticed was that herexperience with the Canadian
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health care system was verydifferent than most people's
experience there. Absolutelythat's not an accident. It is a
gift. There's something to begrateful for, and she does
regular practices to set herselfup internally, and so she
(06:41):
literally doesn't live in theworld that most people live in.
So her experience is not whatmost people experience.
Stephanie Allen (06:55):
Yeah, so interesting, because as my
mother's driving me to theemergency room, her reality is
like, now don't be quiet andnice. Like, you know, you need
to let them know that you're ina lot of pain. I'm like, Oh, you
mean, don't stuff my emotion andjust suck it up and be a nice
Canadian. And, and then shesaid, and also, don't, you know,
(07:16):
don't be mean. Don't be, youknow. And it was interesting,
because there's a sign just asyou go into the emergency room
area and it says, "we understandyour hurt, don't hurt those who
are trying to help you". And I'mlike, how that's that's so true,
isn't it? It's like, hurtpeople. Hurt people. We don't
mean to, but you're I mean 30years working with chronic pain,
(07:38):
with individuals, it does changeone's personality. You can't
help it. You're sensitive,you're hurting. You don't have a
lot of space. You're reactive. Iget it, I totally get it. But
you know, my experience of whatwas happening is like, when I
went in there, I was like, No,I'm not going to sit down and be
quiet. I'm going to cry becauseit hurts, and I'm going to let
(08:00):
those tears roll. I'm going tobreathe through it. I have
practices that I'm going to do.
I'm not over dramatizing it. I'mnotlike, OHHHHHHHHH! Like, I'm
not, although I felt like thatsometimes. But I'm just like, I
am present with it. And I wasusing my imagination, and I know
the bones, what they look likein my hand, so I was like,
imagining them. They are healthyand free, and I'm breathing to
(08:21):
it. I was present, and I wasrealizing like, the old me would
not ask for help. The old mewould not have surrendered. The
old me would have pushedthrough. I would have been
either a victim... oh, poor me.
now I can't work for six months,you know, six weeks or whatever,
(08:42):
and I'm like, huh, I'm gonnafeel this. I need to feel it.
Because if we don't feel, wedon't heal. And I think that's a
really scary thing in oursociety, because what happens
when you don't feel, you alsopush it out or inwardly implode.
And I mean, you see this, yousee this in, you know...
Maren Oslac (09:06):
...we think that if we push it down, it goes away.
Like... oh, it's all gone. Idon't worry about that.
Stephanie Allen (09:13):
Oh, hell no, it does not go away, right, right?
I mean, it's so interesting,because I do a lot of, I do a
lot of sports. Growing up, I'vedone a lot of sports, like, not
even just, like, regular sports.
I mean, I do kind of ridiculoussports, like surfing and and,
you know, gymnastics andsnowboarding. Like, I don't do
like, oh, let's just go for anice, leisurely walk. Or, you
(09:36):
know, I'm usually hanging upsidedown somewhere or flipping out
doing something, and I've neverbroken a bone until now, and
I've been a fairly highlycompetitive athlete in my youth.
Never broke a bone. And I thinkabout all of those times that I
was doing these high level getout of your body extreme sports,
(10:01):
I think because I really neededto feel. I didn't have a way to
really work with my emotionaland so that gave me permission
to really... I could yell at thesports teams. I could, you know,
I could get out my energy. Youknow that I was suppressing. And
of course, I, you know, I don'tdo that so much anymore. I think
(10:22):
I still snowboard, but I don'tdo a whole lot of the other high
level adventure sports. But Iknow the value of emotionally
letting it out. And it's funnybecause now I can't do my hands
on body work, which I will tellyou honestly, is such a... we
can do physical things to helpheal our bodies and our you
(10:46):
know, and whether it's cancer,whether it's a broken bone,
whether it's a fever, there's alot of things that physical
really, really will help. Butwhat I find the most impactful
is when you go in and youactually do the emotional work,
or the mental work, meaning, youknow the mind, clearing the
mind, and what you know, thenarrative, right, the stories we
(11:09):
tell ourselves. What's thehigher story? You know you got
it, we can actually get intothat level is when you have
true, true healing, yeah, andthat's what I was feeling today,
is like, man, I'm gonna let thisout. Because if I don't let it
out now, I'm gonna have to dealwith it as chronic pain a year
(11:32):
from now, 10 years now, and youknow what I got? I got things to
do. I have really a great life.
I got things to do, people tohelp, places to go, things to
learn. I don't want that to bein my way of joy and happiness.
Maren Oslac (11:47):
So I love that you bring that up because, you know,
like last at the end of the lastpodcast, we're talking about,
like, these five kind of areasthat we wanted to discuss around
inner mastery. And one of themis clarity of purpose. And
there's two things I want to sayabout that. First of all, when
you're clear about your purpose,and what you just said is, this
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isn't going to drag me down,because I got things to do.
You're so clear that there's areason that you're on this
planet. And like, okay, so thisis a part of my reality. And you
know what? This happened for me,not to me, which means, okay,
great...now what? From an ahigher perspective, instead of,
(12:34):
oh, God, no, right? That type ofwhat we're used to when we say,
now what? So there's that, thatclarity of purpose going into
it, and then the result of thatinner space clearing the inner
mastery when we do our innerwork. And you know, you may not
even know what that means, andthat's what we talk about a lot,
(12:57):
and we have a course coming upcalled Inner Mastery. So it's
something that you might beinterested in joining. And when
we do that inner work, and webecome inner mastery, masterful,
inwardly that clarity of purposegets clearer. So it's like this
virtuous circle where you getclearer on your purpose, and
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things go more smoothly in yourouter world, and then you get
clearer on your purpose. Andthings go more smoothly even
when you have something that'san oopsie, like, oh, frick, I
just broke my wrist. Like tohave the doctor say to you,
well, if you're gonna do it,this is the easiest way to have
done it right...
Stephanie Allen (13:40):
...and this is the clearest break to have.
Maren Oslac (13:43):
Right? So, like, that's what I mean by it won't
be a... I want to say it won'tbe a perfect life, and yet it
will be. Meaning that it's notthat there won't be any
challenges or any broken bonesor any issues along the way. It
just that there will be joy withit. That sounds like a really
(14:04):
strange thing to say.
Stephanie Allen (14:06):
Well, you know, it's like if internally, you're
full with thoughts and fears andemotions that you don't have an
outlet for meaning, you haven'tgot someone to talk to about it,
that can just hold space tolisten or you haven't got a
practice to be able to move itthrough you - then it becomes
(14:28):
toxic inside of ourselves. Itliterally backs up inside it
does and it creates internalinflammation, and it will impede
your healing processtremendously. But then if you
actually start to feel yourfeelings, that's called flow.
(14:49):
And if you think of a water orriver of flow, when it moves, it
purifies it, it cleans thewater. So you're able to drink
it. It's no longer toxic. Yeah,and just like that sign in the
hospital that I saw, you know,please don't, you know, we
understand you're hurt. Don'thurt others.
Maren Oslac (15:07):
You know... take it out on people.
Stephanie Allen (15:10):
We're trying to help you. We're here to help you
out. You know, I realize that,like, we don't have a way to
console ourselves. We don't havea way to work with our emotions,
so we suppress it, and then it,it gets pushed out or pushed
down. And, you know, there's somuch that goes on in our world
(15:32):
is, I mean, take any, anyleader, you know, any leader. I
mean, even in the hospitaltoday, like a doctor would have
been a leader in that hospital.
That was I was amazed. I didn'tknow this doctor. He happened to
be doing a locum, and he camein, he was the most calm, quiet,
gentle, the way he held my armwas so kind. And there was a
(15:54):
sense of, I already had a senseof peace when he walked in, like
it was just like, oh, wow. Hereally held a healing space. And
I could tell how his nurse thatcame with him, how she spoke to
him, and how he spoke to her,there was such an air of respect
and kindness between the two ofthem that, I mean, she even
(16:14):
said, oh, anything for you,anything for you, absolutely,
I'll totally do that for you.
Like you could just tell herheart was so compassionate. And
I'm like, that's the key. Sowhen hurt people hurt people
because they don't mean to.
Healed people create asurrounding, an area, a culture,
to actually create great healingto happen. And as we say, you
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know, we can look out at otherleaders, we project onto them.
And sometimes we have leaderswho who behave badly, and it can
give us kind of an unconsciouspermission to also behave badly.
But we can also have reallygreat leaders who, like this
doctor that I had theexperience, who was so kind and
(16:59):
so respectful, and you couldtell he was like, he was like,
he was like, a healthy virus,because you could tell everybody
around him was just beingcompletely infected by him in
the best, beautiful way.
Maren Oslac (17:13):
It reminds me of years ago. There's a movie
called Pay it Forward. And youknow, it's like, doing small
things that other people don'texpect, like paying for the
person behind you's coffee andthen leaving, yeah, I mean, so
then it's not like, hey, lookwhat I did, right? It just is
(17:36):
like... they did... you're like,I want to pay for the next five
people's coffee, and they don'teven know who did it right? But
it brightens their day, and thenthey pass it forward, and they
pass it forward so you're right,like, how we choose to be in the
world, and sometimes it feelslike it's not a choice, because,
like we're hurting, and all wecan do is hurt, and then we lash
(17:59):
out and take it out on somebody,or we shove it down and take it
out on ourselves, right?
Stephanie Allen (18:05):
Exactly. Oh, exactly. And those two ways are
so dangerous.
Maren Oslac (18:10):
They are.
Stephanie Allen (18:11):
And when I look at a leader that I want to
support or be engaged with, Iwould look... to me a good
leader is someone who's doingthe inner work.
Maren Oslac (18:22):
They definitely are. They have to be, right?
They have to be but that's whatwe work with, that's what we do,
that's what our podcast isabout, that's what our courses
are on. And the reason isbecause it does change
everything in the outer world.
You know, we don't... we don'thave to keep chasing all the
(18:45):
things out there. We literallywork in here, and it changes,
both in here and out there, andwe become the healthy virus to
be paying it forward just bybeing who we are like that
doctor isn't thinking aboutthat. He just is being who he
is, who is caring and thoughtfuland aware of his surroundings,
(19:08):
aware of his patients, aware ofhis nurse, you know, like
bringing that awareness toeverything that he does. And it
does take practice. It takespractices.
Stephanie Allen (19:22):
Maren, you've even said, you know, practice
does not create perfection, itcreates permanence. And I think
you know, if we're practicingsomething unconsciously, we
don't even know what we'repracticing it's just random. But
if we can actually look insideand start to clear out the
emotional, the emotional thingsthat we've stuffed in there
(19:44):
because we haven't felt safe, orwe haven't, you know, we don't
even know that it's stuffed inthere, but it's creating an
infection, or it's creating somediscomfort. If we can start to
practice to release it, I mean,it's not gonna look pretty. Let
me tell you, I'm standing in theoutpatients, or I'm standing in
the emergency room, and I'm, I'mnot sitting, I'm breathing, I'm
(20:07):
visualizing inside. I'm pacing.
I got my arm up over my head.
I'm like.... I'm notlike...Ohhhhh and ugggghh...
like that, but I am like...
breathe. Breathe. Like I amintentional. I am taking care
of this the best way I know thatI've practiced and what I would
tell my client to do, and so Iam now modeling it. And to me,
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that's leadership, whetheryou're a parent, whether you're
a teacher, you know, whetheryou're any kind of leader, look,
any an older sibling, you are aleader to a your younger
siblings, like we there's alwayssomeone who's looking up to us,
right? And who are you when noone's looking? That's the inner
(20:49):
master, because that's what willcome out. And are you in your
cacapoopooness of like, whoa,poor me. Or are you in the I'm
so great narcissism, ascpect ofit. Or are you like...? What are
you? Are you able to to findthose dark parts within yourself
that are hurting and to create aspace and environment for those
parts to then be released withlove and kindness and to
(21:14):
acknowledge them? So, like, whatdo I mean? I mean, there's a
part of me that was inside, andI say a part of me that was
like, wanted to say every F wordyou can imagine, like,
everything, and was really,really, really wanting to lash
out, and I had to go inside andfind that part. I often use my
imagination this way, so, Iimagine myself like a teenager,
(21:36):
because that's often where thebig F bombs come from. It's my
teenage years. And I go in and Italk to her, and I'm like, Oh
man, honey. I know this reallyhurts. What do you need from me?
What do you need?
Maren Oslac (21:54):
I love that because, you know, it's, we
think we are like this. Well,this is just who I am, I'm
angry. Well, it's actually apersona. It's not who you are.
It's something it's anadaptation that's allowed you
to, you know, survive, which isbeautiful and wonderful, and
(22:15):
it's just a part of you. Sobeing able to have that tool of
going in and talking to thedifferent parts of us, even just
starting to acknowledge thatit's only a part of you, it's
not who you are.
Stephanie Allen (22:26):
100%
Maren Oslac (22:26):
Stop identifying with it, right?
Stephanie Allen (22:29):
And if we, if we don't go in and start looking
at those parts, we become veryfragmented. So then there's all
of these parts of you that arefragmented, that are not
connected, that are actuallydraining energy from you, so
you're fatigued, whether it'sphysically and mentally or
emotionally. You're shorttempered. You're irritated with
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yourself. You irritate withothers. You don't have space in
your heart or in your awarenessto then say, can I make a true
decision that is healthy for meand, like I said, you know, when
I when I isolate that part. AndI say, I don't say, what do you
need? Because that 14 year-oldself within myself is going to
(23:11):
tell you all kinds of crazystuff. I say, what do you need
from me? Me being this, thecentered part that is loving,
like, what? Because it says,well, I need mom to do this, or
I need the doctor to do that, orI need, you know, I don't know
the health care system to belike this. Well, I can't change
(23:31):
any of that, right? That stuff.
I can't, I can't change it. Butif I ask that part, what do you
need specifically from me?
Sometimes I always laugh,because sometimes a part of that
part inside of me kind of doesit like a double take and like,
what you're talking to me, like,for the first time, you actually
are asking me, what you what,what, what I need, really? And
(23:53):
sometimes it doesn't know,because sometimes it just likes
to complain and that's exactlyit. Sometimes it just says, I
justneed to complain. I justneed you to listen. I can do
that. Cool, cool. And this iswhere inner guidance comes from.
It's not about intuition, it'sabout inner guidance. And that's
a lot different, about beingopen to what wants to happen for
(24:16):
you, not based on an intuitionof something that you've built
practices with and that you justhave a real skill with this can
come out of, like left field,yeah, go here. Do this like, so
interesting, right? And we don'talways give ourselves the love
and kindness and the empowermentthat we actually do have
(24:39):
everything we need within us. Imean, those are so ancient
mysticism sayings. That, youknow, the whole world resides
from within you, everything youneed. I was like, when I was
younger, I was like, What? Whatdoes that mean? Like, that's
like, how do I get it? Where'sthe treasure? I don't
understand. But often, like, youknow, when you have something
(25:00):
that breaks, whether it's a limbthat I had this morning, or your
heart or your mind, or somethingthat's break... it's breaking
open. Something is letting go sothat you can let come. But we
have to practice that presenceof hope and possibility.
(25:21):
Otherwise, we're going to beemotionally dysregulated. And,
my God, we can. We're seeing somuch in this world today about
people being emotionallydysregulated, yeah, like the
drama and the trauma and theperformances and how that just
keeps escalating, and that ittriggers - it's like the domino
effect. It's just everybody whoreads it, or what, my gosh, if
(25:42):
you're on social media, it'sjust like one trauma story after
another, or people even like thefalse news of like trying to
hook each other. And I'm like,it's literally trying to grab
your emotional attention so thatit can control you. Because when
we are emotionally dysregulated,we literally will fall for
(26:04):
everything and anything, andwe'll say and we are -exactly-
we're going to say, do thingsthat we more than likely are not
the highest of our truth of whowe are. So if we can calm that,
yeah, it opens up to clarity ofpurpose. Who am I? Why am I
here? What is the purpose of mylife?
Maren Oslac (26:26):
And it opens us to being the positive virus. Yeah,
like we become the antidote. Weare the antidote. So it's time
for us to step into that, and itdoes require the inner journey.
Stephanie Allen (26:40):
100% like I think, how many people do you
know suffer from anxiety orloneliness? You know depression?
So many people, so many. Andthat, to me, is a warning sign
of that we are full and we needa way to let those emotions out.
(27:02):
And if they don't come out in away with practices and mastery
and support system of, you know,lovely, wonderful people around
you, it's going to come outpretty ugly.
Maren Oslac (27:14):
Yeah, and we're seeing that.
Stephanie Allen (27:16):
And we're seeing that too.
Maren Oslac (27:17):
So it is, and, you know, it's like sometimes when I
think in those terms, I getoverwhelmed, and I bring it back
to what can I do? And one of themost powerful things that I can
do, actually, the most powerfulthing that I can do, is do the
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work inside myself, because, asabove so below, like what's
inside of me is also what's outthere. What's out there is also
inside of me. So as I healmyself, I literally, like I said
before, become the antidote, andI start to heal the world. And
that's my journey. And I thinkit's a lot of other people's
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journeys as well. It's just notwe haven't been taught that, so
that's what we do, and our ourclarity of purpose, like we're
really clear that that's what webring to the table. And it's not
for everybody, and it may besomething that speaks to you,
meaning our audience out there.
Stephanie Allen (28:21):
Yeah, absolutely. And I would say, you
know, we could either wait tillthe worst things happenand wake
up that way, or we can chooseit. And actually, when things
aren't so pleasant, likebreaking your arm, you have
something that you Yeah, youhave something that you can rest
in and find the treasure with,yeah, like I talk about this all
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time. So I had a client theother day, and I said, you know,
she suffers from a lot of pain.
I said, you know, sometimes whenpain, and this is a lot of the
mystical, traditional beliefswill say, you know, when pain
awakens in your body, and youcan't really pinpoint as to,
well, I didn't really doanything. Maybe I slept wrong. I
don't know. I can't reallypinpoint anything. It's often
because there's a buriedtreasure within you. And as our
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culture in the West, we don'thave a process or a path to
actually go inward to unveilthat treasure hunt. Yeah. And to
me, that's what inner mastery isall about, is finding that inner
treasure so that you can shareit with yourself, with the
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world, with those you love. Andin doing so, it you're right, it
becomes a remedy, and it becomesinfectious, because then other
people will say... Oh, my God, Iwant I mean, that's kind of what
my client said today, I'msupposed to see her tomorrow
night. And I said, look, I gottarebook you. And she goes, what
happened? She didn't even see myarm in the cast. I raised my
arm. She goes, when did you dothat? I said, about an hour and
(29:50):
a half ago. And she goes, whatare you doing out here? I'm
like, Well, you know, I didn'twant to miss this event that,
you know, we were all at. Andshe said, Oh my God, Stephanie,
only you would be someone whowas like, you know, you, you're
self employed... my whole lifeis based on my using both my
hands. And she said, and onlyyou, you'll probably completely
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come up with something amazingin these next six weeks. I'm
like, yeah, well, that's whereI'm going to put my time and
attention. But I've had to havepractices. It doesn't just
happen. I've had 30 years ofpractices of me talking to other
people, but well now I gottapractice what I preach, and I
plan on it.
Maren Oslac (30:34):
Yeah, we're excited to see what comes out of that,
and we'll, I'll keep you postedright. Tune back into the
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you'll join us. Thanks so much.
Stephanie Allen (31:47):
And that wraps up another episode of The
Soulful Leader Podcast with yourhosts, Stephanie Allen and Maren
Oslac. Thank you for listening.
Maren Oslac (31:56):
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Until next time you.
In a world where we have everything and
it's still not enough, we'reoften left wondering, is this
really it?
Maren Oslac (00:10):
Deep inside you know, there's more to life
you're ready to leave behind theold push your way through and
claim the deeper, moremeaningful life that's calling
you.
Stephanie Allen (00:19):
That's what we invite you to explore with us.
We're your hosts, StephanieAllen
Maren Oslac (00:25):
and Maren Oslac And this is The Soulful Leader
Podcast.
Stephanie Allen (00:30):
Yay! Hi! Welcome to The Soulful Leader
Podcast. This is Stephanie. I'mhere with Maren, and I'm super
excited because we are unpackinga little bit of what we talked
about last week, which was aboutinner mastery, and why, you
know, what it is, and why it'simportant. And it just really
(00:50):
occurs to me, boy, isn't itinteresting? Like, when you you
start to have an awareness ofsomething you want to talk
about, then it's like everythingin the universe happens to bring
up, like, your table of contentsabout what, what you're gonna,
like, you know, really talkabout. And that's kind of what
happened. Is really interesting.
I want to start with a personalstory that literally happened...
Maren Oslac (01:09):
It's kind of like, you know, when you go shopping
for a car and you've nevernoticed that particular car, and
now all of a sudden, you'relike... Oh, my God, they're
everywhere.
Stephanie Allen (01:17):
I know, I know.
Maren Oslac (01:19):
It's your reticular activation system actually
zooming in on those things thatlike... Oh, you want to know
more about that here, let meshow you.
Stephanie Allen (01:28):
Yeah, it's almost like, be careful what you
wish for, because it'll, youknow, the universe will provide
it. So you want to have somesort of clarity and articulation
around what it is you want, sothat you know it comes in a way
that surprises and delights youinstead of like causes you pain
and suffering, right? So, youknow, I'm gonna start with a
little story that just reallyleads into some of the powerful
(01:51):
reasons of why inner mastery hasbeen so important to me. You
know, this morning, I had theluxury of, for a while, actually
had a luxury of having a morningoff that I could do a little bit
more of my inner masterypractices. And, you know, just
had such a wonderful time. And Iwent outside to take out the
(02:13):
garbage, and I tripped, and Ilanded in a really funky
position that caused my arm tobreak. And as I'm laying there
feeling, you know, am I going toeither poop my pants or throw
up, or what do I do? Because I'msingle, I live alone, and I
didn't have my phone on me...
help, I've fallen and I can'tget up, kind of feeling, I just
started to automatically defaultto the natural practices that I
(02:36):
knew and I went, you know, Icalled my my mom. Thank God I
still have my mom. Reallygrateful. So I call my mom,
because that's what we alwaysdo. We call our mom even if
they're not alive anymore, westill call our mom. I want my
mom and in our own hearts. Iswear. Anyway, she was able to
come over and took me right upto the hospital. And, you know,
(02:58):
I live in Canada, and we kind ofhave this belief system that our
medical system takes a longtime. Doesn't cost any money,
but it takes a long time, and itmay not always be the best care.
And I think that is a bunch ofhooey pooey for me. I'm so
fortunate that I went up thismorning, and within an hour, I
had an x ray, saw the doctor,you know, got the diagnosis, got
(03:21):
a cast on it, and I wasreleased, and it cost me
nothing. I was very grateful.
And the beauty of it is, how Iwas treated, it was with such
kindness. Now, why I say this isbecause one of the side effects,
I like to call it, of doing yourown inner work, is that you have
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space inside yourself to listenand to respond rather than just
react and go into I call it thecacapoopooness stories. You
know, it's like, oh my gosh,what am I going to do? It's my
right hand. I'm right handed.
Now I have a cast on for sixweeks. I can't work, body work,
blah, blah, blah, blah. I mean,I could've gone down that dark
(04:07):
alley for a long, long time. AndI laugh because... it you know,
you know, you're making adifference in people's lives,
when the very people that I hadto call and cancel for today are
actually feeding me back thehigher story of what I would
have told them and for example,you know, the doctor that that
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looked after me, he said, youknow, you got a clean break. If
you were going to break yourarm, this is probably the best
one to break, you know, becauseit's really clean, you're not
going to need surgery, and I'llsee you in four weeks, kind of
thing. And my client was saying,you know, ha, I wonder what the
universe has for you for thenext six weeks. And of course, I
(04:52):
talked to Maren today, andMaren, of course, reminded me to
say, you got a clean break. Likeyou have a break, an opportunity
to then learn or be or do or beavailable for what wants to
happen.
Maren Oslac (05:08):
And I think it's so important that that that mental
shift from this happened to meto this happened for me, which
can be so hard when it impactsall of the things that you were
talking about, right? So thereis a downline impact, and there
(05:30):
are so many effects from it'syour right hand, you work on
people's bodies for a living.
There's like so many levels ofthings that people may not
realize that this actuallyimpacts you, or impacts your
life, and keeping thatattunement, which is because we
both do regular practices, itwas funny because earlier, when
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I was talking to Stephanie, Isaid, my friend Stephanie,
happens to be this Stephanie,the thing she always says is, we
do our practices when we don'tneed them, so that they're there
for us when we do - and I justwant to share like the things
that I witnessed when I heardthe story today was the first
thing I noticed was that herexperience with the Canadian
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health care system was verydifferent than most people's
experience there. Absolutelythat's not an accident. It is a
gift. There's something to begrateful for, and she does
regular practices to set herselfup internally, and so she
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literally doesn't live in theworld that most people live in.
So her experience is not whatmost people experience.
Stephanie Allen (06:55):
Yeah, so interesting, because as my
mother's driving me to theemergency room, her reality is
like, now don't be quiet andnice. Like, you know, you need
to let them know that you're ina lot of pain. I'm like, Oh, you
mean, don't stuff my emotion andjust suck it up and be a nice
Canadian. And, and then shesaid, and also, don't, you know,
(07:16):
don't be mean. Don't be, youknow. And it was interesting,
because there's a sign just asyou go into the emergency room
area and it says, "we understandyour hurt, don't hurt those who
are trying to help you". And I'mlike, how that's that's so true,
isn't it? It's like, hurtpeople. Hurt people. We don't
mean to, but you're I mean 30years working with chronic pain,
(07:38):
with individuals, it does changeone's personality. You can't
help it. You're sensitive,you're hurting. You don't have a
lot of space. You're reactive. Iget it, I totally get it. But
you know, my experience of whatwas happening is like, when I
went in there, I was like, No,I'm not going to sit down and be
quiet. I'm going to cry becauseit hurts, and I'm going to let
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those tears roll. I'm going tobreathe through it. I have
practices that I'm going to do.
I'm not over dramatizing it. I'mnotlike, OHHHHHHHHH! Like, I'm
not, although I felt like thatsometimes. But I'm just like, I
am present with it. And I wasusing my imagination, and I know
the bones, what they look likein my hand, so I was like,
imagining them. They are healthyand free, and I'm breathing to
(08:21):
it. I was present, and I wasrealizing like, the old me would
not ask for help. The old mewould not have surrendered. The
old me would have pushedthrough. I would have been
either a victim... oh, poor me.
now I can't work for six months,you know, six weeks or whatever,
(08:42):
and I'm like, huh, I'm gonnafeel this. I need to feel it.
Because if we don't feel, wedon't heal. And I think that's a
really scary thing in oursociety, because what happens
when you don't feel, you alsopush it out or inwardly implode.
And I mean, you see this, yousee this in, you know...
Maren Oslac (09:06):
...we think that if we push it down, it goes away.
Like... oh, it's all gone. Idon't worry about that.
Stephanie Allen (09:13):
Oh, hell no, it does not go away, right, right?
I mean, it's so interesting,because I do a lot of, I do a
lot of sports. Growing up, I'vedone a lot of sports, like, not
even just, like, regular sports.
I mean, I do kind of ridiculoussports, like surfing and and,
you know, gymnastics andsnowboarding. Like, I don't do
like, oh, let's just go for anice, leisurely walk. Or, you
(09:36):
know, I'm usually hanging upsidedown somewhere or flipping out
doing something, and I've neverbroken a bone until now, and
I've been a fairly highlycompetitive athlete in my youth.
Never broke a bone. And I thinkabout all of those times that I
was doing these high level getout of your body extreme sports,
(10:01):
I think because I really neededto feel. I didn't have a way to
really work with my emotionaland so that gave me permission
to really... I could yell at thesports teams. I could, you know,
I could get out my energy. Youknow that I was suppressing. And
of course, I, you know, I don'tdo that so much anymore. I think
(10:22):
I still snowboard, but I don'tdo a whole lot of the other high
level adventure sports. But Iknow the value of emotionally
letting it out. And it's funnybecause now I can't do my hands
on body work, which I will tellyou honestly, is such a... we
can do physical things to helpheal our bodies and our you
(10:46):
know, and whether it's cancer,whether it's a broken bone,
whether it's a fever, there's alot of things that physical
really, really will help. Butwhat I find the most impactful
is when you go in and youactually do the emotional work,
or the mental work, meaning, youknow the mind, clearing the
mind, and what you know, thenarrative, right, the stories we
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tell ourselves. What's thehigher story? You know you got
it, we can actually get intothat level is when you have
true, true healing, yeah, andthat's what I was feeling today,
is like, man, I'm gonna let thisout. Because if I don't let it
out now, I'm gonna have to dealwith it as chronic pain a year
(11:32):
from now, 10 years now, and youknow what I got? I got things to
do. I have really a great life.
I got things to do, people tohelp, places to go, things to
learn. I don't want that to bein my way of joy and happiness.
Maren Oslac (11:47):
So I love that you bring that up because, you know,
like last at the end of the lastpodcast, we're talking about,
like, these five kind of areasthat we wanted to discuss around
inner mastery. And one of themis clarity of purpose. And
there's two things I want to sayabout that. First of all, when
you're clear about your purpose,and what you just said is, this
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isn't going to drag me down,because I got things to do.
You're so clear that there's areason that you're on this
planet. And like, okay, so thisis a part of my reality. And you
know what? This happened for me,not to me, which means, okay,
great...now what? From an ahigher perspective, instead of,
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oh, God, no, right? That type ofwhat we're used to when we say,
now what? So there's that, thatclarity of purpose going into
it, and then the result of thatinner space clearing the inner
mastery when we do our innerwork. And you know, you may not
even know what that means, andthat's what we talk about a lot,
(12:57):
and we have a course coming upcalled Inner Mastery. So it's
something that you might beinterested in joining. And when
we do that inner work, and webecome inner mastery, masterful,
inwardly that clarity of purposegets clearer. So it's like this
virtuous circle where you getclearer on your purpose, and
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things go more smoothly in yourouter world, and then you get
clearer on your purpose. Andthings go more smoothly even
when you have something that'san oopsie, like, oh, frick, I
just broke my wrist. Like tohave the doctor say to you,
well, if you're gonna do it,this is the easiest way to have
done it right...
Stephanie Allen (13:40):
...and this is the clearest break to have.
Maren Oslac (13:43):
Right? So, like, that's what I mean by it won't
be a... I want to say it won'tbe a perfect life, and yet it
will be. Meaning that it's notthat there won't be any
challenges or any broken bonesor any issues along the way. It
just that there will be joy withit. That sounds like a really
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strange thing to say.
Stephanie Allen (14:06):
Well, you know, it's like if internally, you're
full with thoughts and fears andemotions that you don't have an
outlet for meaning, you haven'tgot someone to talk to about it,
that can just hold space tolisten or you haven't got a
practice to be able to move itthrough you - then it becomes
(14:28):
toxic inside of ourselves. Itliterally backs up inside it
does and it creates internalinflammation, and it will impede
your healing processtremendously. But then if you
actually start to feel yourfeelings, that's called flow.
(14:49):
And if you think of a water orriver of flow, when it moves, it
purifies it, it cleans thewater. So you're able to drink
it. It's no longer toxic. Yeah,and just like that sign in the
hospital that I saw, you know,please don't, you know, we
understand you're hurt. Don'thurt others.
Maren Oslac (15:07):
You know... take it out on people.
Stephanie Allen (15:10):
We're trying to help you. We're here to help you
out. You know, I realize that,like, we don't have a way to
console ourselves. We don't havea way to work with our emotions,
so we suppress it, and then it,it gets pushed out or pushed
down. And, you know, there's somuch that goes on in our world
(15:32):
is, I mean, take any, anyleader, you know, any leader. I
mean, even in the hospitaltoday, like a doctor would have
been a leader in that hospital.
That was I was amazed. I didn'tknow this doctor. He happened to
be doing a locum, and he camein, he was the most calm, quiet,
gentle, the way he held my armwas so kind. And there was a
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sense of, I already had a senseof peace when he walked in, like
it was just like, oh, wow. Hereally held a healing space. And
I could tell how his nurse thatcame with him, how she spoke to
him, and how he spoke to her,there was such an air of respect
and kindness between the two ofthem that, I mean, she even
(16:14):
said, oh, anything for you,anything for you, absolutely,
I'll totally do that for you.
Like you could just tell herheart was so compassionate. And
I'm like, that's the key. Sowhen hurt people hurt people
because they don't mean to.
Healed people create asurrounding, an area, a culture,
to actually create great healingto happen. And as we say, you
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know, we can look out at otherleaders, we project onto them.
And sometimes we have leaderswho who behave badly, and it can
give us kind of an unconsciouspermission to also behave badly.
But we can also have reallygreat leaders who, like this
doctor that I had theexperience, who was so kind and
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so respectful, and you couldtell he was like, he was like,
he was like, a healthy virus,because you could tell everybody
around him was just beingcompletely infected by him in
the best, beautiful way.
Maren Oslac (17:13):
It reminds me of years ago. There's a movie
called Pay it Forward. And youknow, it's like, doing small
things that other people don'texpect, like paying for the
person behind you's coffee andthen leaving, yeah, I mean, so
then it's not like, hey, lookwhat I did, right? It just is
(17:36):
like... they did... you're like,I want to pay for the next five
people's coffee, and they don'teven know who did it right? But
it brightens their day, and thenthey pass it forward, and they
pass it forward so you're right,like, how we choose to be in the
world, and sometimes it feelslike it's not a choice, because,
like we're hurting, and all wecan do is hurt, and then we lash
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out and take it out on somebody,or we shove it down and take it
out on ourselves, right?
Stephanie Allen (18:05):
Exactly. Oh, exactly. And those two ways are
so dangerous.
Maren Oslac (18:10):
They are.
Stephanie Allen (18:11):
And when I look at a leader that I want to
support or be engaged with, Iwould look... to me a good
leader is someone who's doingthe inner work.
Maren Oslac (18:22):
They definitely are. They have to be, right?
They have to be but that's whatwe work with, that's what we do,
that's what our podcast isabout, that's what our courses
are on. And the reason isbecause it does change
everything in the outer world.
You know, we don't... we don'thave to keep chasing all the
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things out there. We literallywork in here, and it changes,
both in here and out there, andwe become the healthy virus to
be paying it forward just bybeing who we are like that
doctor isn't thinking aboutthat. He just is being who he
is, who is caring and thoughtfuland aware of his surroundings,
(19:08):
aware of his patients, aware ofhis nurse, you know, like
bringing that awareness toeverything that he does. And it
does take practice. It takespractices.
Stephanie Allen (19:22):
Maren, you've even said, you know, practice
does not create perfection, itcreates permanence. And I think
you know, if we're practicingsomething unconsciously, we
don't even know what we'repracticing it's just random. But
if we can actually look insideand start to clear out the
emotional, the emotional thingsthat we've stuffed in there
(19:44):
because we haven't felt safe, orwe haven't, you know, we don't
even know that it's stuffed inthere, but it's creating an
infection, or it's creating somediscomfort. If we can start to
practice to release it, I mean,it's not gonna look pretty. Let
me tell you, I'm standing in theoutpatients, or I'm standing in
the emergency room, and I'm, I'mnot sitting, I'm breathing, I'm
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visualizing inside. I'm pacing.
I got my arm up over my head.
I'm like.... I'm notlike...Ohhhhh and ugggghh...
like that, but I am like...
breathe. Breathe. Like I amintentional. I am taking care
of this the best way I know thatI've practiced and what I would
tell my client to do, and so Iam now modeling it. And to me,
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that's leadership, whetheryou're a parent, whether you're
a teacher, you know, whetheryou're any kind of leader, look,
any an older sibling, you are aleader to a your younger
siblings, like we there's alwayssomeone who's looking up to us,
right? And who are you when noone's looking? That's the inner
(20:49):
master, because that's what willcome out. And are you in your
cacapoopooness of like, whoa,poor me. Or are you in the I'm
so great narcissism, ascpect ofit. Or are you like...? What are
you? Are you able to to findthose dark parts within yourself
that are hurting and to create aspace and environment for those
parts to then be released withlove and kindness and to
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acknowledge them? So, like, whatdo I mean? I mean, there's a
part of me that was inside, andI say a part of me that was
like, wanted to say every F wordyou can imagine, like,
everything, and was really,really, really wanting to lash
out, and I had to go inside andfind that part. I often use my
imagination this way, so, Iimagine myself like a teenager,
(21:36):
because that's often where thebig F bombs come from. It's my
teenage years. And I go in and Italk to her, and I'm like, Oh
man, honey. I know this reallyhurts. What do you need from me?
What do you need?
Maren Oslac (21:54):
I love that because, you know, it's, we
think we are like this. Well,this is just who I am, I'm
angry. Well, it's actually apersona. It's not who you are.
It's something it's anadaptation that's allowed you
to, you know, survive, which isbeautiful and wonderful, and
(22:15):
it's just a part of you. Sobeing able to have that tool of
going in and talking to thedifferent parts of us, even just
starting to acknowledge thatit's only a part of you, it's
not who you are.
Stephanie Allen (22:26):
100%
Maren Oslac (22:26):
Stop identifying with it, right?
Stephanie Allen (22:29):
And if we, if we don't go in and start looking
at those parts, we become veryfragmented. So then there's all
of these parts of you that arefragmented, that are not
connected, that are actuallydraining energy from you, so
you're fatigued, whether it'sphysically and mentally or
emotionally. You're shorttempered. You're irritated with
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yourself. You irritate withothers. You don't have space in
your heart or in your awarenessto then say, can I make a true
decision that is healthy for meand, like I said, you know, when
I when I isolate that part. AndI say, I don't say, what do you
need? Because that 14 year-oldself within myself is going to
(23:11):
tell you all kinds of crazystuff. I say, what do you need
from me? Me being this, thecentered part that is loving,
like, what? Because it says,well, I need mom to do this, or
I need the doctor to do that, orI need, you know, I don't know
the health care system to belike this. Well, I can't change
(23:31):
any of that, right? That stuff.
I can't, I can't change it. Butif I ask that part, what do you
need specifically from me?
Sometimes I always laugh,because sometimes a part of that
part inside of me kind of doesit like a double take and like,
what you're talking to me, like,for the first time, you actually
are asking me, what you what,what, what I need, really? And
(23:53):
sometimes it doesn't know,because sometimes it just likes
to complain and that's exactlyit. Sometimes it just says, I
justneed to complain. I justneed you to listen. I can do
that. Cool, cool. And this iswhere inner guidance comes from.
It's not about intuition, it'sabout inner guidance. And that's
a lot different, about beingopen to what wants to happen for
(24:16):
you, not based on an intuitionof something that you've built
practices with and that you justhave a real skill with this can
come out of, like left field,yeah, go here. Do this like, so
interesting, right? And we don'talways give ourselves the love
and kindness and the empowermentthat we actually do have
(24:39):
everything we need within us. Imean, those are so ancient
mysticism sayings. That, youknow, the whole world resides
from within you, everything youneed. I was like, when I was
younger, I was like, What? Whatdoes that mean? Like, that's
like, how do I get it? Where'sthe treasure? I don't
understand. But often, like, youknow, when you have something
(25:00):
that breaks, whether it's a limbthat I had this morning, or your
heart or your mind, or somethingthat's break... it's breaking
open. Something is letting go sothat you can let come. But we
have to practice that presenceof hope and possibility.
(25:21):
Otherwise, we're going to beemotionally dysregulated. And,
my God, we can. We're seeing somuch in this world today about
people being emotionallydysregulated, yeah, like the
drama and the trauma and theperformances and how that just
keeps escalating, and that ittriggers - it's like the domino
effect. It's just everybody whoreads it, or what, my gosh, if
(25:42):
you're on social media, it'sjust like one trauma story after
another, or people even like thefalse news of like trying to
hook each other. And I'm like,it's literally trying to grab
your emotional attention so thatit can control you. Because when
we are emotionally dysregulated,we literally will fall for
(26:04):
everything and anything, andwe'll say and we are -exactly-
we're going to say, do thingsthat we more than likely are not
the highest of our truth of whowe are. So if we can calm that,
yeah, it opens up to clarity ofpurpose. Who am I? Why am I
here? What is the purpose of mylife?
Maren Oslac (26:26):
And it opens us to being the positive virus. Yeah,
like we become the antidote. Weare the antidote. So it's time
for us to step into that, and itdoes require the inner journey.
Stephanie Allen (26:40):
100% like I think, how many people do you
know suffer from anxiety orloneliness? You know depression?
So many people, so many. Andthat, to me, is a warning sign
of that we are full and we needa way to let those emotions out.
(27:02):
And if they don't come out in away with practices and mastery
and support system of, you know,lovely, wonderful people around
you, it's going to come outpretty ugly.
Maren Oslac (27:14):
Yeah, and we're seeing that.
Stephanie Allen (27:16):
And we're seeing that too.
Maren Oslac (27:17):
So it is, and, you know, it's like sometimes when I
think in those terms, I getoverwhelmed, and I bring it back
to what can I do? And one of themost powerful things that I can
do, actually, the most powerfulthing that I can do, is do the
(27:40):
work inside myself, because, asabove so below, like what's
inside of me is also what's outthere. What's out there is also
inside of me. So as I healmyself, I literally, like I said
before, become the antidote, andI start to heal the world. And
that's my journey. And I thinkit's a lot of other people's
(28:01):
journeys as well. It's just notwe haven't been taught that, so
that's what we do, and our ourclarity of purpose, like we're
really clear that that's what webring to the table. And it's not
for everybody, and it may besomething that speaks to you,
meaning our audience out there.
Stephanie Allen (28:21):
Yeah, absolutely. And I would say, you
know, we could either wait tillthe worst things happenand wake
up that way, or we can chooseit. And actually, when things
aren't so pleasant, likebreaking your arm, you have
something that you Yeah, youhave something that you can rest
in and find the treasure with,yeah, like I talk about this all
(28:45):
time. So I had a client theother day, and I said, you know,
she suffers from a lot of pain.
I said, you know, sometimes whenpain, and this is a lot of the
mystical, traditional beliefswill say, you know, when pain
awakens in your body, and youcan't really pinpoint as to,
well, I didn't really doanything. Maybe I slept wrong. I
don't know. I can't reallypinpoint anything. It's often
because there's a buriedtreasure within you. And as our
(29:08):
culture in the West, we don'thave a process or a path to
actually go inward to unveilthat treasure hunt. Yeah. And to
me, that's what inner mastery isall about, is finding that inner
treasure so that you can shareit with yourself, with the
(29:30):
world, with those you love. Andin doing so, it you're right, it
becomes a remedy, and it becomesinfectious, because then other
people will say... Oh, my God, Iwant I mean, that's kind of what
my client said today, I'msupposed to see her tomorrow
night. And I said, look, I gottarebook you. And she goes, what
happened? She didn't even see myarm in the cast. I raised my
arm. She goes, when did you dothat? I said, about an hour and
(29:50):
a half ago. And she goes, whatare you doing out here? I'm
like, Well, you know, I didn'twant to miss this event that,
you know, we were all at. Andshe said, Oh my God, Stephanie,
only you would be someone whowas like, you know, you, you're
self employed... my whole lifeis based on my using both my
hands. And she said, and onlyyou, you'll probably completely
(30:13):
come up with something amazingin these next six weeks. I'm
like, yeah, well, that's whereI'm going to put my time and
attention. But I've had to havepractices. It doesn't just
happen. I've had 30 years ofpractices of me talking to other
people, but well now I gottapractice what I preach, and I
plan on it.
Maren Oslac (30:34):
Yeah, we're excited to see what comes out of that,
and we'll, I'll keep you postedright. Tune back into the
soulful leader podcast, or joinour email list, because who
knows, we might do a blog postabout it, and if you join our
email list, you can get our freedownload and all of that stuff.
Yeah, so we would love to haveyou join us for more things.
(30:55):
Like I said, we do have an InnerMastery Class coming up if
you're listening to this. Atsome point in the future, we
might have one coming up for youtoo. But, you know, check our
website, https (31:04):
//tslp.life or www.thesoulfulleaderpodcast.com.
And then subscribe and getnotified every time we have a
podcast that drops, and thenalso you can join us on our
(31:24):
Facebook group and our LinkedIngroup, both of which are The
Soulful Leader. So we'll bechatting a little bit more about
some more of the benefits ofinner mastery next week. We hope
you'll join us. Thanks so much.
Stephanie Allen (31:47):
And that wraps up another episode of The
Soulful Leader Podcast with yourhosts, Stephanie Allen and Maren
Oslac. Thank you for listening.
Maren Oslac (31:56):
If you'd like to dive deeper, head over to our
website, atTheSoulfulLeaderPodcast.com
Until next time you.
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