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January 21, 2025 54 mins

Can a business really thrive and NOT be toxic? Can it actually be beneficial to the people running it, its customers, its workers, AND the planet?

Mark Silver has the answer - and it’s a resounding YES!

Mark has worked with 1000’s of businesses over the last quarter century and has proof that every act of business can be an act of love. As leaders grasp what that even means and begin to embody it, we will be the change we’ve been waiting for.

Stephanie and Maren unpack this progressive business (and personal) model with Mark learning about his activism, business and Sufi background along the way. His concept (and book) Heart-Centered Business: Healing the Toxic Business Culture so your Small Business Can Thrive makes for an engaging and inspiring conversation.

We cover everything from Mark’s fascinating story, to what is the heart of a business, to the gifts and strengths that we are meant to unfold and share, to going beyond the transactional corporate way that we know as business.

How do we work with our businesses instead of just having an agenda that we force? What might our businesses want to have happen for us or for humanity? These questions and more are at the “Heart” of today’s conversation.


04:33 The ‘Heart of Business'
     The Sufi perspective, Constant distractions, Outer dissonance 
08:04 Your relationship with your business
     What is my business asking from me? What does it want to give me?
13:12 Mark’s Story
     Activist and punk, not-for-profit, magazine, Sufi business healing
16:11 the intersection between outer business practices and inner spiritual truths
     Marketing without the ick. Seeing sales tactics so you don’t get taken in. 
     Emotional Hijacking. ‘Best’ business practices.
30:24 Business as a force for good - the small business revolution
34:10 Security and joy
36:48 4 Stages of Business Development
43:13 Mark’s leadership thoughts on practice
     The ‘thing’ that's going to do it. Environment, and then let it flourish. 
     Being uncomfortable


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