The Space Between
The Space Between is a leading astronomy and science communication podcast hosted by Kolby Van Camp and Dawson Wagner. Each week, we dive into the wonders of the universe, exploring astronomy, astrophysics, cosmology, and more, through curiosity-driven conversations with scientists, thinkers, explorers, and communicators. Our mission is simple: make complex ideas about space accessible, engaging, and human. From Nobel Prize-winning physicists to rising voices in the astronomy community, The Space Between bridges cutting-edge science with everyday curiosity.
Episodes
We have much to be thankful for in 2025! Kolby provides an update on the show to get things started, highlights the extraordinary nature of our year with this podcast, and the exciting future releases of 2026.
Similarly, enjoy our conversation about the Aurora Borealis that folks across the world have experienced this last month and the strong event that occurred at the end of November!
We are so thankful for you, our fans, and can&#...
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In this episode of The Space Between, we venture to the far side of the Moon—not for radio silence or alien bases, but for quantum computation. As the race to scale quantum systems heats up on Earth, researchers and futurists are eyeing the cold, quiet vacuum of space...
A quick update for all our loyal fans here on the Space Between!
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---In this episode of The Space Between, we sit down with astrophotographer, filmmaker, and YouTuber Helena Cochrane to explore how art, science, and storytelling collide under the night sky. From her first steps into astrophotography to her journey as a film student, Hel...
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In this episode of The Space Between, we explore a bold new frontier in digital infrastructure: data centers in space. As the world’s appetite for computing power skyrockets, fueled by AI, cloud services, and ever-expanding networks, traditional data centers are hitting...
In this episode of The Space Between, we explore a breakthrough in cosmological modeling: the Web-Halo Model, developed by Dr. Sam Brieden and his team. For decades, cosmologists have relied on the halo model to describe how matter clumps together in the universe, but it struggled to capture the messy middle ground between isolated galaxies and vast cosmic structures.
The Web-Halo Model goes further, folding in the sheets and filame...
In this episode of The Space Between, we dive headfirst into one of the hottest debates in modern cosmology: the true age of the universe and what new data from the James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) means for our understanding of cosmic expansion. Headlines are screaming “crisis” and claiming the universe is expanding at two different speeds—so what’s fact, what’s speculation, and what’s just sensational storytelling?
We explore the...
In this episode of The Space Between, Kolby, Dawson, and special guest Bernie Michaels dive into the hidden patterns of chaos and the strange gravitational dance of black holes. Bernie, a self-proclaimed chaos math savant, unpacks how tiny changes can lead to cosmic-scale consequences — from galaxies colliding to the unpredictable orbits that shape the universe.
We explore whether black holes act like strange attractors, how fractal...
Far from Earth, the Moon presents explorers with an unforgiving puzzle: two weeks of searing daylight followed by two weeks of frozen night. For any future habitat, this isn’t just an inconvenience—it’s a survival crisis. How do you keep the lights on, the air flowing, and the water unfrozen when the Sun disappears for 354 hours at a time?
In this episode of The Space Between, Kolby and Dawson explore a surprising solution: thermoel...
Far beyond the orbit of Pluto lies a silent frontier—the frozen edge of the solar system, where light fades, and time seems to stretch. In this episode of The Space Between, Kolby and Dawson explore the discovery of 2023 KQ14, an ancient, distant object nicknamed Ammonite. It's one of only a handful of known sednoids, mysterious celestial bodies that may be untouched relics from the solar system's formation 4.5 billion year...
In this episode of The Space Between, Kolby and Dawson dive headlong into the extraordinary cosmic guests gracing our solar system in 2025—starting with 3I/ATLAS, the third confirmed interstellar object ever observed. Is it a comet from a forgotten star system older than our own… or, as some have (controversially) speculated, an alien probe with a cloaked mission? We break down the hard science, the wild theories, and everything in...
In this episode of The Space Between, Kolby and Dawson explore the cosmic family tree hiding in plain sight: the Orion Nebula, the Pleiades, and the Hyades. New research suggests these iconic star clusters aren’t just neighbors in the night sky—they’re snapshots of the same stellar system at different stages of life. From baby stars to fading elders, we dive into how clusters form, drift, and evolve, and what that says about the na...
The VLA and NRAO approved our content for release! Enjoy the second of a small series of interviews we conducted with scientific personnel this last March at the VLA and the NRAO.
Kolby and Dawson sit down with the Associate Director of the NRAO, Dr. Patricia Henning, to discuss the workings of the National Radio Astronomy Observatory and the Very Large Array.
The VLA and NRAO approved our content for release! Enjoy the first of a small series of interviews we conducted with scientific personnel this last March at the VLA and the NRAO.
Kolby, Dawson, and Ben sit down on-site with NRAO STEAM Education Manager and Visitor Experience and Guided Tour Manager for the VLA, Summer Ash, to discuss the workings of the telescope, her favorite projects she's been a part of, and the way the VLA o...
Kolby and Dawson break down a recent development where two astronauts are potentially being left on the International Space Station for a significant period of time due to a technical malfunction, plus a really cool public initiative that the European Space Agency has put together to engage the public in astronomy.
Kolby and Dawson discuss fungi in space, its durability, NASA's plans for how it can be used, and whether a hypothesis that it provides access to a deeper level of understanding to the universe.
Kolby and Dawson fire up season 3 with some space news about caves on the moon, the technology needed to explore further into our solar system, and Space X's newest missile launch.
Hey all. We so appreciate your support over these strange last nine months. The times have changed, the expectations in our lives have changed, and we just want to get back to the basics.
You have been awesome for a long time - and we want to keep connecting with you. No frills, no monetization, just two dudes keeping it real and talking in the Space Between.
Much love, we will see you soon.
- Kolby and Dawson
Kolby, Dawson, and Ben recap their trip to the Very Large Array.
Kolby and Dawson discuss the latest in the American governmental findings regarding UAPs and the conflicting messaging it sends.
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