From A White Kings Fall off the thrown to Rikiishi's Girth: Boxing's Wild Weekend

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
it's time for the main event.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's the sparring podcast yo, we are, we are.
Yeah.
Yeah, I see it.
We had some major technicaldifficulties.
We are officially actually live.
We were just chopping it uphere at the sparring boxing
podcast sunday why are we goingthrough this shit?

Speaker 1 (00:25):
yeah, I have no idea.
I should have went to churchlive.
We were just chopping it uphere at the Sparren Boxing
Podcast.
I have no idea, I should havewent to church.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
It is Puma here with Willie and Punchlines, our
newest member, who probablyknows more about.
What does that mean?
Narcs, isn't that like?

Speaker 3 (00:42):
It means all kinds of shit.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
But Punchlines is here.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
My finger smells like shit.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
We are going to do our best not to get shadow
banned today, guys.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
I'm going to play a boxing pundit and monitor or
moderator.
We're going to do our best notto get shadow banned.
That's the goal.
Yeah, I think last one.
I'm on a tight leash this time.
Last time I don't know what wedid, but we said some key words
we're not going to say, we'renot going to get shadow banned
on our first ever live.
But here we are.
Second time's the best.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Definitely feel like it was my fault.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
It was probably a little bit of Willie, me too A
little bit of Willie too.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
There's a lot going on.
I said the J word, yeah, juice,juice man, oj to Juice man.
Anyway, we are here.
We have a lot to talk abouttoday.
Someone's phone it's probablymine by there A lot of technical
difficulties today.
The internet went out rightbefore we started talking.
Punchlines is probably a littleupset.
Right, it is A little upset.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Devastated bro.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, is your phone by the mic.
Yeah, I just put it on, do notdisturb okay, yeah, we heard the
buzzing um, it was you goinglive on ig oh nice, us, man, us,
it was us, it was us you'restill, you were the king of like
funny memes and everything andgetting shadow banned Because

(02:04):
our first ever live Literallyeverywhere.
But listen, you're a littleunhappy.
You were just telling us whenwe thought we were live and we
weren't.
But you're also a little happy.
Explain what happened with youand your mans.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Oh, my God Dude, my white king, the boxing white
king.
actually Everybody's a whiteking, actually every everybody's
white king in boxing sort ofwhite, kind of but earlier this
week, um, like you know, likesometimes creating content, I
can't do memes all the time and,like me, I'm a huge caleb plant

(02:39):
fame so of course I love hislike sneaker boxing shoes, so I
made that post.
I added you as a collaboratoron yeah, where it was his four,
last four shoes, including theone he wore.
Yet last night, like askinglike what the best kayla plant
fight she was, and then he dm'dme he's like yo add me as a
collaborator and I was like donot scare him.

(03:03):
I was still like thank you, bro, like so much.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
First thing I said so he put like a period at the end
of it, Cause that like meanssomething in text.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
No, he's just like hey, add me as the collaborator
and I'll post it up.
I want to see what people knowand I was like yes, right away
sir, of course.
That was like the goal in asense.
Right like yeah, I mean I get,I guess it's the ultimate goal
is to get him to collab on it.
George kittle commented on it.
That was pretty oh, that'sawesome.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, that tight ends , that's crazy.
But yeah, you did blow up.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
You're known for that blowing up on social media you
just got that shit down to apack, man, I don't know man I
think I'm just blessed and luckymore than anything, to be
honest.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yeah, but this was like this was a polite post.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Usually it's you getting uh, getting a little
violent on there, but this waslike a polite one, so yeah, it
wasn't a meme or nothing.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
It's crazy because I know he didn't look at my
account beforehand because thepost right before the one he
collabed on was literally it'sjust the picture of him and it
said wicker, oh god, yeah, yeah,you did today damn.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Uh.
Yeah, well, that's good, butanyway, that was cool.
We're gonna get into a littlebit more about our man, caleb
plant, later.
Uh, there's another white guy Iwant to touch.
Quick take on.
You know, nothing too crazythat fall.
We actually have a lot to goover.
Um, let me just tell you whatwe're gonna go over.
First.
I'm a little discombobulatedagain.
We're doing this live thing newand the internet went out right

(04:37):
before we started, two minutesbefore 7 pm eastern time.
It comes back on today.
We're going to talk about,obviously, like we said, kayla
Plant.
Quick take on Josh Taylor, alittle recap.
Is he in or is he out?
We don't know.
Eduardo Nunez versus RikishiNot the fat Rikishi, but Eduardo
Nunez.
We're going to touch on that.
Charlo Plant, obviously, andyeah, I think that's it, and

(05:02):
we're going to touch on a little, not recap.
We're going to preview KeyshawnDavis versus Edwin De Los
Santos and obviously all otherthings.
Boxing, but let's just getright into it, since we're
talking about white boxers.
Quick take on Josh Taylor.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Oh man, josh was like yeah, that's three in a row.
Nah, he didn't get beat crazy,but I mean he got beat, but he
started off strong though he did.
He did start off strong, but Idon't know what happened.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
You know what To me?
Yeah, the first three rounds,I'm like, oh, this is going to
be a long-ass night for Isuman.
I'm like shit, I was about tolive bet the KOTKO honestly.
And then the fourth, maybe thefifth, I forget.
It was like a completeturnaround.
Taylor just could not get outof the way.
His offense is still there, hisoffense is still elite, but his

(05:53):
defense with time and fathertime, it's clearly like dwindled
away.
It's not what it was.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah, his legs ain't the same.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
No, and he's got the skinny little white legs.
Like me, he's looking waydifferent did you see?

Speaker 1 (06:07):
I was looking at his like olympic I think he's on
olympics, right.
So he was like I've seen howyoung and look.
He looked like a totaldifferent person, like his swag,
his swag and everything itlooked like it just changed.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
It just got older like you ever see, like a, an
alcoholic alcoholic.
And how they age.
You see him and you're likewhat happened to you in the past
three years.
He doesn't drink like that, butI think boxing has done
something to his liver becausehe's aging like an old athletic
alcoholic.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
He's definitely getting older faster.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
That's what I'm saying, I wouldn't be surprised,
though, the way they cut weight.
It's not good on your internalorgans.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
No, absolutely not, and he's always had issues with
the weight.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
I know for the TO fight at 140, that was like a
big deal weight cut wise eventhen, like if you go back before
the TO fight cause it was hisfight before that was Caterall.
He looked awful he looked bad.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
He made Caterall look good but that's the thing he.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
He's always just right there.
Just not enough for these elitelevel fighters.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
That's what I'm saying.
He's right there because of hisoffense.
He's always right there.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
But that little like I always talk about the tears
that little now wrinkle in hisdefense that he doesn't have
anymore is just enough to knockat him the win.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yeah, he's going towards the C tier right now In
that weight class.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
He doesn't make adjustments neither.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
No, he's not like at all, he's trying to force what
he's doing to work.
It's like muscle memory it usedto work and now it's just not
there.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
But again, the first three rounds, bro, I was like,
oh shit, this is going to be along night he was doing some
combinations and doing his thing, but once he got hit it was
like a different story.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
But yeah, you know, I'm pretty sure he might do a
local show or something.
I think that's the end.
I don't care.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
I mean, there's only three losses.
It depends if he won a fight.
But who is he going to fight?
You know what I'm saying?
He's like a stepping stone,like a fight up for a newcomer
coming up.
Yeah, that's what he is.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
The thing, though, like I didn't lost to Resendez
last night, the thing is, I hadat least heard of Resendez.
He's three fights.
Yeah, three other fights beforethat fights?

Speaker 1 (08:25):
yeah three other fights before that.
That dude, josh taylor, thoughtI'd never heard of him.
Yeah, well, yeah, he's fromover there in england, so I
guess that's like I still havelike a decent knowledge of a lot
of the british guys.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
But that guy like I've never ever heard of him?

Speaker 2 (08:37):
not once uh me, neither, me neither um hold on,
I gotta turn casual for that orwhatever, but no, I mean I, I
don't know, casual.
No, I didn't hear.
No, I mean, I don't no I didn'thear of him either.
I don't know.
Props to that guy too, thoughhe was an underdog and he's got
Josh Taylor on his resume, soprops to him too.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
I'm just trying to.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
He did his thing yeah , so you think he would make
weight better that way.
But again, even his skin likeand I don't mean to like his
skin looks like that alcoholicskin.
You know what I'm talking about?
Like chalky, Just like looseand like like, yeah, like he's
got the Alky skin.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Like a bag of milk, like it's really like empty and
like stretched to the limit.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah, something ain't right with that skin man, oh
man I don't like the skin fadetoo like he just looked like a
jar head, just you.
Just see, I don't know whathe's doing with his nose that's
all those british guys, thougheven cataract.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
They all look like fucking peaky blinders yeah,
well, I mean peaky, that's good.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
On peaky blinders, that's a good show, because they
got it right apparently.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yeah, it's a dumbass haircut though.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
True, but all right, I mean, you know he gave us some
good memories, josh Taylor.
I don't think he's going togive us any more good memories.
I'm definitely always going tobet against him.
Now, unfortunately, that'swhat's on the comment.
I know, yeah, especially a name.
I bet against him, but he didgive us good memories.

(10:10):
He was in that.
Was it the first super sixtournament or whatever that was?

Speaker 3 (10:13):
remember that wasn't the super six.
I know what you're talkingabout.
He was in.
You're talking about the damn.
What was that shit called?
I think you're talking aboutthe one he fought regis in yeah,
and he got like that big trophyright.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Usik got it too.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Yeah, because there was a cruiserweight one.
There was a super middle weightone.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
There was a 140 pound one.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Yeah, because uh callum smith won one of those.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah, yeah, callum smith, that's your boy those
were all cool, the, the this,that tournament with the trophy
or whatever that's.
When, like usik really came Ihe was known amongst boxing
heads but he really once he wonthat tournament it was like, oh
shit, who is this fucking guy?

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yeah, because he ran through Cruiserweight.
He was like all the otherchampions at Cruiserweight doing
that.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Speaking of that real quick, I remember Murat Gassiev
.
Remember him?
Yeah, that's who he fought inthe finals.
This dude Gassi looks like heeats nails.
I thought he was going to justbeat Usyk, just on pure brute
power, but Usyk really outboxedhim.
It was like a sweep.
Yeah, and he's still sweepingeverybody except Dubois and blah

(11:17):
, blah, blah.
But we'll cross that bridgewhen that time?
Comes.
When is that coming?
When is that coming up?
That's July, right july I thinkjuly.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yeah, it's either july or august.
Dubai kills me, bro.
I always thought that's my guyright there like I like watch
them fight, but it's like everytime I look at him I'm like bro,
he looks so dumb yeah, he looksslow like when he talks, right
like he uses his whole fist tolike write and shit yeah, he
like he talks slow and shit.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
When he speaks too, he speaks like but we've talked
about he's like the shack ofboxing.
Yeah, just not as like dominant, but the shack was.
But I get what you're saying.
I'm gonna punch you in the face.
Yeah, he looks like he eatsrocks dude and apparently I
think that is that his brotheror his kid.
We talked about it once beforewe did he always brings this
little guy with him.

(12:07):
Now that looks just like him,but I think he's a little
smarter, um, but yeah, all right, whatever you know, josh taylor
, I'm going blank.
I had a long weekend yeah, Iknow, no, that's tough again we
go loud.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Really did.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
I had a long actually let's talk about that real
quick before we jump straightinto the fight.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
no credit'all didn't give me no credit.
Man Punchline here.
He don't want to give me nocredit for my dance life.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yeah, Willie had a little dance competition, no
recital.
He sounded like a hater bro?

Speaker 3 (12:32):
I just didn't know.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
No, that was him, him , it's his fault.
He's the narrator over hereFucking guy Coming off Memorial
Day weekend.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Sorry about my intros .
I've been so flustered withthis live shit trying to get
this live going.
But yeah, we're going to workon it in time in time.
Memorial Day it was just pastMemorial Day weekend.
You do anything punchlines forMemorial Day weekend?
Besides, speaking of MemorialDay, it kind of ties in with
Josh Taylor, so he's kind oflike dead to boxing now.

(13:05):
So he's for the dead homies.
He was flat, he was flat.
He was flat.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
He's not dead, he was yeah, yeah, a lot of flat foot
it was a it was a bad weekendfor the white folk but before we
get to that, let's just, Iguess we'll just keep it with
boxing next.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Next show, I'll have a better intro.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
We can talk about our lives and what we did, and then
we get to that.
I guess we'll just keep it withboxing.
Next show I'll have a betterintro.
We can talk about our lives andwhat we did, and then we get
into the boxing, but once myfucking internet went out, I got
very flustered.
Next on the list, a littlejunior lightweight championship.
What did you think of Rikishiversus Nunes?

Speaker 3 (13:43):
I only watched the highlights, but it looked like
it was like a.
They said it was a fun fight itwas.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
It was fun because nunez made it fun with his style
that just come forward, fuckingmess can.
Yeah, but like again, he, hehas pressure, great pressure.
No jab there was, I don't knowhow many jabs.
He threw, like a pit bull fight, yeah, it was literally.
That's a good analogy.
It was Cruz, yeah, and it wasworking, because Rikishi,

(14:14):
masanaro, rikishi, whatevercouldn't stand his ground at all
.
He also looked like he had nolegs.
He was landing some shotsthough, I'll give him that but
the pressure was just too muchyeah, exactly Way too much
Pressure bus pipes and he losthis legs pretty quickly.
Then now I know Ray Ford wascalling him out Nunes, and I

(14:35):
agree with Ray Ford.
I think there's a lot of holesthere to be exploited on Nunes,
because pressure like that isn'tgoing to work on Ray Ford.
He's not going to back up likeRikishi, he's not going to fight
off the back foot.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Rikishi was doing a pull though, but he didn't throw
nothing at them, he was justpulling, he was making a mess.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
I think that's the style over there, because a lot
of them do that.
From what I see, japanesefighters yeah, they do that,
pull and then they don't counter, they just pull and it's there
but they don't counter.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
He pulled and rolled.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Yeah, juto does counter, but I'm saying the ones
below that level, they don't.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Yeah, juto, it looked good.
He made him miss a lot.
Yeah, he made him miss enough.
That's the thing, because hehad no jab he was making a miss.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
You got to lead in with the jab.
It was crazy.
You know who else is like thatis cuban fighters.
They'll make you miss and thenjust move, yeah, just move, yeah
, but they like make you missmore in like a dancing way.
You know, like yeah, but thesethe the japanese style, like
they, they're in the pocketalmost and like, well, that can
be he forced it.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
He forced to come in with his head down and he pulls,
but he does.
He don't go nowhere, so he'sgonna.
So he's going to get hit.
Yeah, he's going to get hitwith another.
As long as the dude keeps onthrowing, he's going to get hit.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
And Ray Ford called him out rightfully, so I guess
he wants to unify.
That makes sense, because oh,that was for a title too.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
Yeah, Well, it wouldn't be a unification,
because Ford don't got no belt.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
No, he moved up.
I'm sorry, but he's chasing thebelt and there's an opportunity
there for him.
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
That's an exciting fight, though, too.
Yeah, that's a good fight, yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
I'm a little worried.
Speaking of Ray Ford, we'regoing to the Newark fight in
Jersey and Ray Ford's going tobe there and you know that guy
Truck Simpson, he's Him andJahai are going at it.
Yeah, but whatever, we'll bethere talking that.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Hey, what fight Will you be in there?

Speaker 2 (16:36):
I'm going to get the tickets after we're going to
Kambosis.
When's Kambosis fight?
Two weeks, okay, and then we'regoing to work on those.
I'm man, I am so I'm going alittle way.
I feel bad too, like go seelittle way you know, like I
noticed like a lot of the boxingpundits and, like you know,
guys like us, whatever theboxing nerds, they're all single

(16:56):
right and like this, thisboxing shit needs a season.
Because I'm starting to see why, like I'm starting to see why,
like my wife said to me realquick, not to get, you know, all
personal we're gonna keep itboxing, but Boxing shit needs a
season.
I'm starting to see why I'mstarting to see why my wife said
to me real quick, not to getall personal, we're going to
keep it boxing.
But she said to me the otherday she was like, oh, I'm on
vacation in like two weeks fromwork and there's like three
fights in June that I'm going to, we're going to.

(17:18):
And she's like, oh, I'm offthose Saturdays too.
I'm like, oh, yeah, but I'mgoing to these fights.
She's like, oh, I guess we'renot going on vacation.
And I'm like it hit me.
I'm like this is why thesemotherfuckers are single,
because I gotta go.
I have to go to the Jahai fight.
Right, that's our friend, so Igotta go to that fight.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
And then Kambosis Is in MSG.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
I gotta go to that fight.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Why do?

Speaker 3 (17:45):
you have to, though.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
I just got the itch, if it's in New.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
York and I miss it.
My FOMO kicks in, and it'sinstant.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
I'm part of the lower class.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
It's instant erectile dysfunction if I don't make it.
So I have to go to those fights.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
I feel, like that, one of those fights you can skip
, though.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
He'd be hair-pressuring me to go to
these fights.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
I mean, I have to go to the Jahai one.
That's a have-to.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
That's a have-to.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
Yeah, but I don't think you have to go to the Ah
the tickets are already bought.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
We could have skipped .

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Hickson's fight.
Fight, yeah, but the ticketsare already bought.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
But I get such FOMO dude Like the Times Square fight
right.
I think it's going to work outfor us.
It always does.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
But just saying, and the tickets weren't bad for that
.
Hey, man, you're a married manBro you're a married man?
Yeah, and that's why we'remarried.
You can lose it all For what I?

Speaker 2 (18:41):
didn't do nothing wrong.
Go to the fucking fight, takeher to a nice dinner or
something.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Do some gay wife shit ?

Speaker 2 (18:47):
during the day.
Gay isn't happy, he means gayisn't very happy.
Gay isn't happy.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
Moderator, moderator.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Moderator.
Moderator, we are not going toget Shadowband again.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
Apple picking.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
We have they always go wine tasting they always
drinking.
What do you mean?
They it's getting racial,nothing about you you and your
wife what?

Speaker 3 (19:09):
is wrong with you, chicks, kill me, they're always
like, you always go like howmore?
How much more mature they arethan us and how dudes are scary.
It's like, bro, y'all get winedrunk and throw axes at shit.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Don't say I'm scary.
Yeah, that's true, we are worse, though, when we're drunk.
Anyway, back to boxing.
Sorry, we sort of sidesteppedthere.
Anyway, yeah, Eduardo Nunez,masarino, rikishi, I didn't even
know real quick.
I didn't even know real quick.
Oh shit, I didn't even knowRikishi was like, I didn't know

(19:45):
that was a Japanese name.
What do you think of when youhear Rikishi?

Speaker 3 (19:50):
The Hawaiian dude, the wrestler, yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah, of course, and he was Hawaiian.
I know that's of Asian descent,but I was like I never, ever
once, crossed my mind that.
Rikishi was Japanese.
I thought it was like Samoan,yeah, I don't know, maybe
there's like Inchel in there.
Yeah, but whatever, he is notanywhere near the Rikishi we're
thinking of.

(20:13):
He's probably his penis.
He could be Rikishi's penis,that skinny little guy.
Anyway, going forward, props toRay Ford.
Ray Ford is going to Ray Ford'sgunning for a belt, and that's
exciting because I, aside frommy, love for.
Shushu.
Yeah, oh, someone commented I'mgetting new to this.

(20:35):
I need something close.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
What does that say?
I don't know.
You can't see it on the screen.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Nah, because if I log in it'll mess up.
But yeah, thanks for commenting, like and subscribe whoever you
are on YouTube.
Someone just commentedsomething Cool.
Thanks, man, I'll send you ashirt.
Dm me.
Yeah, good for Ray Ford.
Man, ray Ford will, I think,and I'm going to bet on Ray Ford
, and again, he was my fight ofthe year a year ago Just once he

(21:03):
started talking smack aboutshushu.
You know I had to had to backour guy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, still a fanof ray ford's, though just not
when first shushu and when youdo this, you gotta stay out of
the fighter, like they're not.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
They're always gonna have problems with somebody yeah
, yeah, I, I like kept it.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
I kept it like I wasn't like getting personal, I
just kept it.
You know I'm I'm new New Yorkwith fans of Shushu.
Shushu also is, if anyonelistening, we say it all the
time, but Bruce Carrington isthe most fan-friendly boxer I've
ever met in my life and youcould probably attest to that
too.
Oh, 100% Dude, and he'swell-spoken, well-mannered, just

(21:39):
an all-around great, great dude.
Yeah, you want to talk aboutthe charlo and then we'll get
into your boy, and I know yougot a lot to say about your boy,
did you?

Speaker 3 (21:51):
want to talk about the beck fulgham fight at all.
Did you guys watch that?
No way, dude.
Did they shit on me?

Speaker 2 (22:03):
wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
We froze you there yeah, okayno, no, we are here, my internet
bro.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
I'm calling verizon tomorrow and I am going bat shit
crazy you're making it reallyhard for me, to someone of my
stature, to do this interview.
Yo eat a rikishi dick.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
How about that?
What were you saying, though?
What'd you want to go over?

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yo, what's going on?

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah, bro, he keeps going back to home.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yo, what are you trying to say?
I think you're stereotyping him.
Nah, nah, sorry.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
I think Verizon's doing something in the area,
because the past few weeks I payliterally I pay $300 a month
for internet.
So this doesn't happen.
And has this ever?
We're on episode 70-something.
Has this ever happened before?
Never.
It's my biggest fear.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
It happened like five times.
No, it didn't Never.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Shut up, I still risk a going live bro.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yeah, it's annoying but, like again, I have the line
in, we're not doing Wi-Fi andyou've been here for fights when
, like yo, I don't everyone'salways like, oh, don't buy the
fight, don't buy the fight.
Yeah, he's at a tempted chance.
I'm like no, no, I'm buying thefight because when that shit
cuts out, especially when yougamble on it, I lose my fucking

(23:26):
shit.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
Me and my boy streamed the Haney Garcia fight
and the shit glitched at thethird knockdown Like Ryan was
still in a combo.
It froze and it came back andHaney's getting the count and
we're like what the fuck?
Nah, I was gonna see if youwanted to talk about the Beck
the Bully versus the Bulldogfight.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's another one, beck the Bulldog,
oh yeah, yeah, that's anotherone, beck the oh, because yeah,
that ties right in with Charloand them weight class wise.
Yeah for sure I never get tosee that.
Yeah, did you watch?
The whole thing I watched thewhole thing I did.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Yeah, Me too I watched the co-main event too.
The co-main event was what was?
That I didn.
You know, eric Priest.
Yes yeah, he was fighting LuisArias.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Oh, arias, is that the same Arias that fought Danny
Jacobs, right?
Yep, okay, yeah, arias is slickthough.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
No, he's not dude, he's bad bro.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
He's like George Cambosis never won a fight for
real.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yeah okay.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
He didn't look good.
He got washed in that fight.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Okay, eric Priest good, he got washed in that
fight.
Okay, it's like eric priest isa good name, though he's he's,
he's a he's a real fighter.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
A good performance.
But it was also like uh, Idon't know, just like when you
see those younger guys going upagainst somebody past it.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah, it doesn't go well and that's like that kind
of boxing's like full circle,because that brings us right
back to to josh taylor.
Like that's where josh tayloris probably gonna we're gonna go
right back to it.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
When we talk about plant too, yeah, but the the
back to bully versus bulgingfight, because that was a big
fight yeah it was, it was.
We don't see those fights often, right, it's the two guys that
are, like, ranked, pretty closeto each other, you know not for
a belt yeah, not for a belt, noteven for a title shot, yep, but

(25:05):
um, and it was a good matchupbecause it was a fun fight.
It was a close fight and Ipersonally thought Beck was
going to fuck him up.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
I really did me too, but it leads me back to what we
talked about again full circle.
No jab man, you gotta work yourway in there bro you know what?
I ain't getting to see yourshit.
Yeah, it's all good.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
You know what came to my attention in that fight?
Because I was Michael Anzaletti.
He's a friend of mine, he's aprofessional fighter.
I was texting him during thefight because he's friends with
Darius Fulgham, and I was justtalking to him about the fight
and he pointed it out and he waslike bro beck has no inside

(25:48):
game.
Yeah, that's true, because he'ssuch a good body puncher.
I think we kind of just assumedhe had an inside game.
But like when it comes to likesetting up shots or fighting out
of a clinch or even likegetting into the clinch, dude,
he really didn't know what hewas doing and then was kind of
manhandling him inside.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Correct me if I'm wrong His big knockout.
When he got knocked, the fuckout, that was an inside uppercut
, was it not?

Speaker 3 (26:16):
Against Rosado.
Yeah, against Gabe.
It was an overhand rightbecause he came in lunging with
it.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
I could have swore it was an overhand right, I
thought it was an uppercut, butI could be wrong too.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
I'd have to rewatch it, but it seemed like because
he was coming in like this.
Yeah, and Gabe just caught himwith the overhand right.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Okay, you're probably right, I'm probably Almost like
.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
Akio Marquez knockout .

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, speaking akyal mark.
Uh, marquez knockout.
Yeah, speaking of um nah, butnow so beck, beck needs to you
and even getting in on theinside with that style, with no
jab, if you could withstand thepower you're gonna.
You're gonna do good andfulgham did do good.
He didn't do bad, like boththeir faces were fucking torn to
pieces.

(27:03):
You should go watch thehighlights I gotta see that yeah
, because it's that's the bestfights, that's when boxing's
great and like friday nightfights used to be like that,
like it would be like the 16thand 15th ranked fighting.
I'm just you know like guessing, but like those fights are are
awesome.
That's what makes great fights,and they did that, so props to
them.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
But now honestly I think, homeboy, they both raised
their stock.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
That fight like yeah, yeah, yeah he won.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
He's closer to a title shot, but I think folgium
got a lot of fans in that fight,one for taking it but two for
performing the way he did yo,who, I don't know who, coach sal
, underscore nine five, six isuh, he says salute all the way
from rgv rio grande valley downhere in texas.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Salute that our first , our first, live yo.
If you're listening, coach sal,dm me, I will send you merch
for free on the house, but itmight be cheap because my
internet keeps going out.
So no, I'm just kidding, I'llsend you merch for free for real
.
Um, but yeah, I, I, I thinkbeck the bully is always going

(28:06):
to be dangerous, though.
He's always going to bedangerous because, unlike um,
what's his face?
Uh, not rakishi nunez, he hasthat power to hurt you.
He's like he's more about it.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Are they young, they like?

Speaker 2 (28:19):
oh, they're prime, prime age, he's like a he's like
20s, I feel like yeah, he'slike a.
He's more of like a pitbulllike his.
His power means something andand he's got that anger.
It's just he's beatable, that'sall he's beatable yeah, and
he's athletic.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
I just wish he would knew, like figure out how to
like use that to his strength,because he's got really good,
like because he's southpaw yeah,he's got really good like he
can leap in with an attack andturn you, he's really good at
that.
He didn't use that enough untillater on, when he had to make
adjustments, because when hewould do that he would do well,
but when he doesn't move, he was.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
He's getting touched up, bro.
Yeah, and that's what a lot offighters they just say yeah like
yo.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
that I I don't get, though, because if you're that
powerful, right, and you justpractice jabbing your way in
some trainer, they have to betraining that.
We're not experts.
The experts have to be tellingthat's like basic training.
Yeah, but Beck, the Bully withthat power, and if he just jabs
his way in bro and goes to thebody with that looping hook,

(29:23):
it's a whole different ballgamefor him.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
He's at that next tier.
Double up the jab and then gowith the right hook to the body.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
It's just.
Again, it's easier said thandone, as we know.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Especially at that level.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
He's so powerful and so explosive it's insane.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
A lot of people were calling that fight a robbery too
, but it was way too close yeah,nah, nah, it was especially
because you had a pointdeduction on beck and then you
had a knockdown.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yeah where he get a point deduction for it was
holding yeah and that that that.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
That goes back to like what he was holding for
what he got hurt?

Speaker 3 (29:59):
nah, he was just getting tagged up, he was
getting yeah, it's like he wouldlike, folgen would get it on
the inside with pressure andBeck would kind of get lost and
he would just hold on Because hedidn't know how to get out of
it.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
That's a sense of like that, though, to get a
point, Damn that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Yeah, because the ref was warning him for like a lot.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
He had a lot of warnings before the.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
But then Beck scored a knockdown in the 12th round
too.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Yeah, oh, damn that's kind of what made it close.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
Yeah, well, it was close in general but it was a
fight.
It had a lot of momentum shifts, but it had momentum shifts at
weird times.
So it was like, for example,there was a round early on like
three or four.
There was one round where Beckhad homeboy hurt bad, he was
rocked, was like holding on andthen the next round fulcrum come

(30:48):
out and was like putting it onhim and he was doing really well
for like two and a half minutesand then he lost focus, he got
confident, he dropped his handsand beck closed out the end of
the round really well, whereit's like where all the shots
land those, those, the hardestrounds to count.
Yeah and I even I textedmichael that I was like bro, I
was like he's got to stay, likefulgham's got to stay focused,

(31:08):
because it's like rounds likethat are how you lose fights
yeah and then the last 30minutes is the last.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
30 seconds of the fight is on.
The round is always important,like always important.
Yeah, because that's the lastthing they see, the ref see.
Pretty much they forget a wholeround if you have the 30
seconds, going crazy.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
But they would take turns doing that, because then
there would be some rounds whereBeck would start off pretty
well and Fulgham would end itreally well.
So it was like weird momentumshifts.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Sound like a great fight, right?
No?

Speaker 2 (31:37):
dude, it was a good fight it was a fun fight.
I wish it was promoted a littlebetter.
These are the fights.
This is my problem and again, Italk about it almost every
freaking episode.
But with DAZN and it's not ESPN.
That fight should have been on.
Imagine that fight was on ESPN.
At the bars, right, even ifyou're just hanging out at the

(31:59):
bars, some fat girl's grindingon you.
Who is this guy up there onthat TV?

Speaker 3 (32:02):
And then you get their attention.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
These guys are beating each other's ass.
Yeah, and DAZN in Americaanyway, we're not going to have
that.
Hopefully it changes, but we'renever going to have that.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
No, we're not going to have that when the Nixon
Yankees are losing at the sametime, but seriously we ain't
going to see none of that.
And these are the type offights that was Saturday or
Friday Friday.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
I got off work and I came home.
I watched it, yeah, and now wecould just transition right into
Charlo versus La Mana.
I think I don't know.
Is Beck going to get aneliminator, or is he next in
line?
I think the W don't know.
Is Beck going to get aneliminator, I think, or is he
next in line, or did he?
I think the WBO ranked himhigher.

(32:49):
I'm not sure I read something.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
I'd have to look at which sanctioned body he's
ranked in.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
I think somebody just bumped his rankings up like way
, way up there and he's I wouldlike to see him versus Pacheco
After Friday.
I'm less confident he beatspacheco, to be honest with you,
yeah, yeah, wait.
Less, less confident, you saidyeah, for sure less yeah, yeah,

(33:14):
yeah, less less confident.
Yeah, me too a young bull I'mactually like and and he's
speaking of pacheco.
Uh, he has a fight coming upwith our mans.
Hold on, I'm having a brainfart, trevor.
Yeah, mccombie, that's crazy,we'll get into Caleb.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Plant, that's nuts.
That whole thing is going downright now.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
This division just got hot out of nowhere, and we
could, it did.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
It's like if you watch basketball, you, you watch
basketball, you guys watchbasketball.
It's like the East when LeBronleft yeah, to be honest.
It's like a free fall.
Because Canelo's got all thebelts and we know what he's
doing and we know what he's notgoing to do.
He's not going to fight any ofthese guys.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
No, no, you're right.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
So it's like it's heating up at the right time.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Perfect, and it's like, and you know, it's heating
up at the right time.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
yeah, perfect, and they're young and they're prime
and like it's.
It's great, because now iftrevor performs.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Oh man, I know, but I'm a little worried now because
his performance versus calebplant was amazing it was amazing
he just he didn't let up.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
We should get to that later.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
We should okay, okay, okay, okay.
I feel like we're gonna repeatit yeah, probably, but Okay, so
let's just get right into Charlothen, because now he's in the
mix again too, after his littlelayoff.
Jamal Charlo, he looked goodman, he did Very good.
Thomas LaManna A little cleanclean, strong have you.
I never heard.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Yeah, he was patient, calm, so did you guys.
I never heard of lamanna you,yeah, just from when ariostandy
lara knocked him the fuck.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Okay, and you're.
You're a lara fan, so thatmakes sense and I saw the
brooklyn on his short on hisshorts and I'm like yo.
How do I not know who this?

Speaker 1 (34:57):
guy is.
He's a young kid.
He's not from brooklyn.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Yeah, I know he's from jersey.
I looked it up, he's fromSouthern Jersey.
I'm like where the fuck have Ibeen this?

Speaker 1 (35:04):
guy got Brooklyn on his shirt.
He looked like he'd been in thehood a little bit sometimes.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Yeah, whatever he had , a Philly hat on South Jersey.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
He had no muscles though.
Bro, Go to the gym.
I know you punched the bag, butdamn, he looked like a non-fat?

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Uh-huh, I think so too, but that was bugging me out
.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
You're right, he's skinny but fat at the same time.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
It's like when Charlo went up for Canelo.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
It's like me, a lot of alcoholics fighting.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Skinny fat.
Yeah, he's like Canelo Gribblefrom King of the Hill.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
But yeah, on to Charlo Listen.
Two-year layoff, dusted off thecobwebs.
Uh stopped him in as a bettingman and I didn't bet on this
fight.
It said one second into the six.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
What do you mean?
You didn't bet in this fight?

Speaker 2 (35:56):
um, then you put a parlay in oh yeah, no, I did, I
did, I put a parlay but I didn'tbet like.
I didn't bet charlo like alone.
Oh yo, as a betting man, Inoticed that the final time was
one second into the sixth roundand this is like to me that's
crazy, because it was stopped inthe fifth when he was in the
corner, like the sixth rounddidn't start.
No, it did.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
It was because it was stopped by the doctor, not by
his corner.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Ah, so they gave it that one second.
Yeah, Bro, if I bet on thislike if I bet the fifth round
and that happened, I would havefucking boycotted boxing.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
So shout out to my gamblers out there.
I did say to bet the under onCharlo, though I'm telling you,
bro, I saw that dude get meltedyeah, fucking, creamed by Law,
with one punch by Eris LandyLara.
I knew Charlo was going to fuckhim up, and Charlo like that's
what I was, and Lara's just aboxer.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
He's like nothing, like a puncher.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
But yo like that to me, charlo, listen, he warmed up
His power's still there.
We know the opponent wasn'treally you know whatever, no,
but but but, but we've seenworse, like people come back and
yeah, have like his timing wason point, like if you, if you
just take away who he wasfighting and look at like as a

(37:11):
boxing fan what he did, his jab,and then I texted you about
this today was strong yo his jabnever left.
Like that, he didn't have todust the cobwebs off.
That that's a great that jab andhe's my favorite, charlo jamal,
like like M-A-L-L.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
Really, I always liked Jamal more.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Really I liked Mal yeah, mal, I always liked Mal
just because he was like he wentcrazy and then stepped out.
He's like I got to step out.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
I got to step a strong feeling that, like I was
pretty confident charles wasgonna fuck that dude up and yeah
, yeah, yeah but I was like he'sbeen out of the ring for a
while, not only that but he'sgoing through head stuff.
The pressure of this plant fightis there.
I was like I wonder if he's.
But dude, he was calm all week.
He was friendly, even when hewas like talking shit on stage.

(38:00):
He wasn't like yelling like henormally no, no he was like
you're lucky, you're on our card, bro like he's like nice, but
like also a dick at the sametime.
Yeah, they were talking aboutlike he was like owning up to
the whole caleb plant thing,like laughing it off yeah, they
kind of made nice to caleb plantlike they made friends.

(38:20):
Yeah, yeah, like caleb plant waswalking to do his face off,
like uh, jamal was like yo afteryou and everything like that,
and I was like I wonder if it'slike in his head, I wonder if
he's just like insecure.
And then the fight started and,bro, he was calm, he was
patient, everything.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
The only thing I did notice and again I just want to
speak on his jab His jab wasimmaculate and this kind of like
blinded what I did notice.
Like jab was immaculate andthis kind of like blinded what I
did notice, like it kind oflike negated it.
So he landed.
I think it was 44 jabsaccording to compu box.
And his feet, though man, hisfeet come really together and
he's a little flat-footed andhe's always something like that,

(38:58):
yeah.
So so, speaking of like plantand a mover like that, I I just
feel like his jab kind of stopsyou from from seeing that and
and kind of cancels it out.
But, and again, he could workon it.
You know, like he, he is hisfirst fight in two years, I mean
, he's 35.
He could, but that was the onlynegative I saw, like they were,

(39:18):
he was walking, you know he, hewasn't like, he was just
walking around the ring.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
I also don't think he was afraid.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Yeah, that too.
That too he was laughing.
But he has, like he's not likea mover, but he just tilts his
head a little bit.
You know what I mean.
Like it's not a lot.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
They both do that.
They both fight like this yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Weird, and it's like his defense though, though, like
because there are some shotsmissing.
He just and you know, props tohim.
He came back, he fought, he didwhat he was supposed to do and
he did it in fashion.
He had that.
That guy was walking back tothe corner and tripped Like it
was.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
He was.
He's a goofy ball.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Yeah, it was it, not to shit on the dude, but bro is
goofy.
I gotta Google why he orwhatever, figure out why he had
the Brooklyn shorts on, becausethat threw me for a loop.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
He probably was confused because he was confused
in a ring a little bit.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
Probably still fucking concussed from when Lara
sent his ass to the show.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
It's funny that you would know that, because I was
like, hey, I never heard of thisguy.
I looked him up and I forgotthat he did fight him and I'm
like, who is this guy?

Speaker 3 (40:25):
like he got dude.
It was a bad knockout too.
It's like one punch.
There's like an amir khanknockout.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
This is rough but you know what and I want to give
props before we get into tocaleb but pbc did a good job of
promoting this fight becausenon-boxing heads were like oh
there's um.
I heard charlo fights tonightand I heard plant.
Yeah, that they didn't charlo,bring, bring yeah, the only
thing is, they thought they werefighting each other.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Yeah, like no, that's what I was gonna say earlier
they kind of like duped us with.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
That, though, too, I'm tired of this.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
It's crazy.
Y'all still say charlo andplant, but they didn't even
fight.
Yeah, but you said it earliertoo.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Yeah, yeah, call it a little plant.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Yeah Like what.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
What are we going to learn, bro?
Yep, they did this shit withJoshua and Wilder, they did it
with Joshua Fury, they did itwith.
They just did it with Ryan andHaney too.
It's like.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
We're suckers, bro.
They give these big names oncards and then nobody's they
something happens.
Yeah, ruins everything.
It ruins your whole plan.
You're right.
And uh, as you know, I sayprobably the most, the the thing
I say the most in all of ourepisodes yeah, never plan your
next fight before your nextfight.
Never plan your next fightbefore your next fight.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
All they doing, and that's all they doing.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
Now we'll get right into it uh, that's that's one of
the things that gave me a bigfeeling, a bad feeling about
plant this whole week, becausehe kept saying he wasn't looking
past.
Resendez, I'm like bro.
It feels like you are, though,because it's like everything is
about like you're talking.
You're talking about your shoes, you're talking about your
fashion line dropout that youhave coming up he has some nice

(42:02):
shoes on again, though but you,you know what I'm saying you
assisted with that.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
He has some nice shoes on again.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
But I'm saying, if you watch his like persona yeah
everything was about that.
It was about his, his brand andhis identity and what he's got
coming up outside of it wasalmost like, remember, in rocky
three, and like rocky's trainingand like all the fucking
presses there and they're'rekissing him on the cheek.
It seemed like Speaking ofkissing on the cheek, you're

(42:29):
planning out all these fights.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
bro, your man, Caleb, kissed your man on the cheek
after the fight.
You didn't see that?

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Did he?

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Kiss him on the cheek , I said what?
Yeah, as soon as the fight wasover, you guys see that clip.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Clearly for our radio listeners that aren't on the
video chat.
We're getting right into CalebPlant versus Jose Resendez.
Yeah, man.
Oh really.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
What the fuck do I have here?
Whatever, I just knew him asResendez.
What, jose Armando?
It don't matter just kidding,just kidding.
Caleb plant versus armandoresendez, resendez, whatever.
Uh, I didn't know.
They sparred I.
I heard that right before thefight and and my bet I was like
that's when my first red flagcame up.

(43:19):
I'm like, oh, they sparred shitand it was for Canelo.
And the irony of that is Caleblooked a lot like he did versus
Canelo in this fight.
The way again, the pressure.
He just couldn't take thepressure.
But this is possibly upset ofthe year.
It opened up at Negative oneResendez, resendez for.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
Plus money plus $1,000.
Plus $2,800.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
So that means if you put $100, you'd win and you bet
$100 on Resendez to win bydecision or to go the distance.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Money line the money line was like $2,800 richer.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
So if you bet $10, you'd win $280.
That's bad.
That's a great bet if you didit.
I don't think many bet that.
Like that's a great bet if youdid it.
I don't think many bet that.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
I sure as hell didn't , who wouldn't he fucked?

Speaker 2 (44:06):
up my parlay.
So Jerry, an ex-pro whose kidfights amateur, he came over
late as usual and this fight wason.
I put this fight on.
It was like the fourth or thirdround.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
You fell asleep with it.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
No, no no, but Coach Jerry came over and we were
watching it in my backyard andhe pointed something out to me
and I kind of got to agree withhim.
He's like yo, look at his body.
That dude is no diddy becausewe can't say the other word,
because we're PG-13, no diddy,he's like.

(44:41):
That dude is girthy, he's thick, he's thick as hell, he is yeah
, he's like.
That dude is like girthy, he'slike thick, he's thick as hell.
And I'm like, yeah, I'm likeyou know what, like that is a
little weird.
He looked like his bone matterlooked a little like thick.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Am I the only one that saw that, or?

Speaker 3 (44:57):
I mean, I wasn't paying attention to me.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
I wasn't paying attention to that.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
I don't know, you didn't look at his bone matter.
I don't know what type offreaky shit, y'all was on over
here.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
No, no, we were like yo.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
Look at that dude.
What the I wonder if he has adick like a WWE?

Speaker 2 (45:11):
wrestler.
Yeah, he got a rickshaw cock,doesn't he Yo?
All right, yo Listen.
His stock rose and I know yougot a lot to say about it, so
I'm going to let you go next.
But his stock rose crazy, and Ijust want to say something
about his style and his defense,and they're not going to talk
about his defense a lot.

(45:32):
His high guard was really well.
Yo, his high guard was good andhis body blocking was crazy
because Caleb in the laterrounds was trying to kill that
body and just couldn't he justcould not touch that body.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
It was kill that body and just couldn't he, he just
could not touch that body.
He was all on the elbows, allon the elbows and he would
return fire people, takingadvantage of the time man he's
taking.
That's the advantage of themoment right there.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
But I, he didn't.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
He didn't show up just to be an opponent no, not
at all, and and I didn't expectthat, nobody expect that.
But you make a good point withthe, the shoe stuff and, like he
, he has silk sheets.
Now, man, he's, he's, he's rich.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
He's turning.
He's turning into one of thecharlots.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
He wasn't gonna fight , but real, real quick.
Before you go off, I just wantto say one thing, and and this
is where I kind of I agree withyou with the silk sheet stuff
his corner, I I noticedsomething.
They were basically in the inthe back half, like the last
three or four rounds.
Right, they were telling himlike yo, you listen, you're not,
I love you, I love you man, Ilove you, kid, but you got to

(46:31):
win these two rounds, you got towin these.
I would never lie to you.
I would never lie to you, kid,and you know what that tells me.
When you're talking like that,he's a yes man.
You know what I?
Yeah, they're yes men.
Yeah, because, because you gotto get in his shit, like yo,
you're about to lose to this guy.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
Like, yeah, because, I, I agree with you like I
noticed him saying that, but Ididn't agree with bread man.
I was like, brother, you need aknockout.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but he's a knockout, his reason for
his reason for that was, likeyou know, I love you, kid.
You heard him.
I love you, kid, I love youlike no, no, motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Yeah, I love you, knock his ass out like that's
how you, that's make it soundlike you, but knew they was
about to.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Yeah, and breadman breadman's a good trainer, so I
was like yo I love you man, whatis going on?

Speaker 3 (47:11):
bro, there was a point early in the fight, like
before the first half had passed, and like like plant was
starting to look slow.
He was like things weren'tlanding.
He was getting hit up, andbread man asked him in the
corner.
He's like is there somethinggoing on that I don't know about
?

Speaker 2 (47:30):
I didn't see that.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
Yeah, wow yeah, bro, that was like.
That was like between thefourth and fifth, maybe between
the fifth and sixth wow yeah, itwas before he got rocked, I
remember that.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
So that's weird, that's odd yeah bread.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
Man is like is there something he got rocked like at?

Speaker 1 (47:44):
six Like sixth round.
He got rocked yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
Sixth or seventh?
Yeah, it was before that.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
We thought it was going to get stopped.
We just put it on then I'm notgoing to lie.
I tuned in like the fifth orsixth because the Knicks were
losing, so we turned it off,damn the first round he looks

(48:12):
kind of like caleb playing okay,he's more, he's more active.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
He wasn't as exhausted.
Obviously it was the firstround, but his jab like he
landed like four punches thewhole first round.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
His jab was missing that's weird for him too.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
It's his, that's his, his jab is his key and I
messaged my boy I'm like, bro,he't look great and he's like
maybe he's just trying to feelthe shots before he like turns
it up.
I'm like I know, but like I'mnot saying he looks bad, but he
don't look good Like normally.
The plant like the plant jab inthe early part of the fight is

(48:46):
money.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
He does well with it.
It just wasn't there and hishead movement wasn't there and
his head movement wasn't there.
Um, he just wasn't doing awhole lot.
He kept trying to do the getoff center line and throw that
shovel hook to the body.
He was doing that early.
The right hand wasn't there.
The combination punching wasn'tthere I mean so.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
So to me he was never known for his power, right,
like never, no, never he had theDarrell knockout, whatever, but
that kind of threw everyone forlike a loop.
He was never, if you know,boxing.
He was never known for hispower.
And I didn't like the kind oflike the new version of Canelo,
the one plotting, like you justsaid, the plotting one or two
punch shots, Like no combos.

(49:32):
He's known for combos, he'sknown for combos.
He's a combo puncher, adefensive sound combo puncher.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
And even in his last fight against McCombie the jab
was there.
Yeah, His footwork was a littlebetter.
He was still whipping combosaround.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
And those shots were affecting McCombie.
I felt player stoppage for surein this fight he didn't make no
adjustments this time, yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
He didn't look too well.
Mccombie didn't really look toogood in the beginning of the
rounds.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
Yeah, I think though he was getting rocks.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
And I thought after that fight he would know not to
overlook anybody.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
And then here we are in this fight.
Yeah, so he came back and didthe same thing, and then his bad
habits just rolling over.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
I don't even think it was bad habits.
I think it was a mixture of badhabits because it's like at
least against McCombie.
He made the adjustment and madeit a phone booth fight?
Yeah, mccombie up yeah.
Mccombie's strong.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
And also, too, it had been what?
14, 15 months, since he hadfought before that against
Benavidez.
I was like, all right, it's atune-up, there's ring rust, he's
ironing out kinks.
That wasn't the case.
This fight he.
It hasn't been a long layofffor him and he just looked like
he looked.
And this isn't me hate, I don'tknow.
You guys know I'm a huge.

(50:45):
Yeah, yeah, that's your guy,but I'm a jaguars fan.
I'm gonna root for you if youwin or lose.
Obviously, like I'm not gonnalike jump ship on caleb plant,
but it's just I'm calling it howI saw it for real.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
I want to give you your props real quick too,
because I I commented somethingon one of your posts and I was
like yo, this is a real boxingfan and you know when, when to
does bad, I cook them right,yeah.
So like you're a real boxingfan because you could cook your
guy when, when he underperforms.
You know what I You're justkeeping it real and that's why
we have you on the show.
But you posted something rightafter, like oh man, and I

(51:16):
thought I was like oh, this isin my head.
I was like this is a good testfor him.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
I had to have it All that shit beforehand with him
and then you had to go cook himright afterwards.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Because it probably was a little hard for you.
I'm going to make this shit.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
It's like Wesley Snipes from New Jack City when
he's like crying and pointingthe gun at you.
Yeah, yeah, Literally man.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
But that's good as a fan Like, that's what fans do.
That's why sports are sports,because we got to keep it real.
And in boxing, as you know andI know as a Teal fan from his
other fans you got to cook a guywhen he's bad.
It is what it is.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
The difference, though gotta cook a guy when
he's bad.
It is what it is.
The difference, though, not tocut you off, because this is
what makes it shitty, becauseit's like there's a difference
between saying you underperformed.
That's not all I'm saying, it'slike, bro, you look like a
different fighter yeah, and nota good way, because we're like.
When teo underperforms, it'susually a lack of focus, yeah,
or a lack of like.
Like he looked past martin, helooked past cambosis and he was

(52:15):
sick.
He looked past ortiz.
That, like caleb plant, lookedold, yeah, like his.
His mind was still there, hisring iq was still there.
That's why you saw him tryingto make adjustments last night.
They just weren't working, like, because what did he start
doing?
Like?
He tried doing what he wasdoing at first and the jab

(52:38):
wasn't landing the shut like the, the body shots weren't
affecting him.
So then he tried to make it allbody by going all inside, like
he didn't against mccombby, andthat wasn't working.
You even saw him.
He threw the, the same combo heknocks durell out with.
He threw that combo like sixtimes in the second half of that
fight.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Did you see it?

Speaker 3 (52:55):
yeah, yeah, you're right, he would like dip down
and throw that hook to the bodyand wait and then come up at top
and, like resendez, just keptblocking at that point.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
At that point, though , it wasn't explosive enough.
Like first durell, it happenedlike this guy, and and again we,
we got to give credit wherecredit's due.
Dude Resendez's stock justfucking went through the roof,
but here's my thing.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
As good as that win was for him, I'm happy for him.
He's going to get a few fightsout of that, but I don't think
he looked like a top 10 supermiddleweight either.
He did enough to win, but hedidn't have to show a lot to win
, which is what was the evenworse part about it.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
But like how you win matters and this is like what I
get.
Why a friend of ours who usedto be on the show oh, he's anti
Crawford.
I'm not going to say his name,I give him enough plugs.
He's big on Canelo Right and hehates Crawford.
I'm like, dude, like you couldhate on Crawford all you want.
Like, yeah, you know you couldtalk about his resume, whatever,

(54:00):
but how he beat Errol Spenceand how he did it matters so so.
So the the way this Resendezdude beat Caleb Plant really
matters, because nobody saw thatcoming.
And if you look at the odds,caleb, he almost stopped him in
the seventh.
Whenever I was I tuned in, herocked him hard and Caleb was

(54:23):
surviving.
He made Caleb Plant try tosurvive, which is why I speak on
.
He looked like it was fightingCanelo again.
He made him try to survive.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
And he had no answers .

Speaker 2 (54:33):
And nobody expected that.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
When he was moving around and dancing on his feet
in the second half of the fight.
That was him looking foranswers and resorting to muscle
memory Because it sounded likeit was good footwork and he was
wasting energy and keeping hisfeet away from him.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Maybe his nice shoes had him moving different the
shoes did look good, they didlook good.
Yeah jordan ones, yeah the ogsand I'm not again.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
I I do like caleb plant.
He's, he's one of my like topfighters.
You know, like he, I like himand I like it.
It's for his style.
I like the style of fight he'sin.
He's always in it and, honestly, when he did slap charlo, I
like he stood on his word, likeyeah, but that I don't think
that's, but I don't think he'sthat guy anymore.
He has another kid on the way.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
He's got a beautiful wife, this fight of him and
Charlo.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
Fashion drop coming out in the summer.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
Yeah, so this fight of him and Charlo really waited
too long.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Now it's not going to be the same, no more.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
It's not going to Now .

Speaker 3 (55:31):
They're friends yeah it's not even like a bad blood
fight.
No more.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
Shout out to.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
Shout out to original listener real quick On our
second ever live.
Just commented a chili pepper.
I don't know what that means,but it looks like something that
I see a lot.
Tapatio, underscore 19.
Shout out to you, man.
You've been with us from thebeginning.
He already got merch I thinkit's tapatio tapatio, tapatio.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
Whatever is my guy, we always text sure it's tapatio
you know him too no, but that'sa hot sauce, it's a mexican hot
sauce.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Oh shit, it's my bad dude.
Thank you for cultural.
I thought it was the size of myshfigadel.
Anyway, back to Caleb.
Speaking of smart, here's agood question.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
Here's a good question because I know where I
fall on it the Caleb plant thatwe saw last night.
Do you think he would have beatthe William Skoll that fought
Canelo?
No.
I don't either.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
I mean Skoll would have been running around the
damn ring yo he just wrote realquick.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Sorry, I'm new to this live thing, but he just
wrote yes, sir, hot sauce topatio, hot sauce, whatever.
All right, I'm a gringo to I ama gringo, yeah t, you don't
have to say.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
Tio, you say Tio's name, all you gotta do is say
Tap uh in front of it.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
Alright, tapatio, I got you now, man, but yo, he's
been with us from day one, soshout out to him Anyway, skull.
Yeah, I mean, that's a boring,that's a really boring fight.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
Yeah, but I also like , because Resendez didn't look
like, uh, he didn't look likesomebody who was a ibf champion
that beat vladimir shishkin.
Yeah, dude, I'm telling youplant, but but you missed the
whole first half pretty much.
He was tired by round four butcan I say three?
He was frustrated.

(57:32):
He was like picking resendez upand stuff like canelo does is
like he was like he also taylordoes I won't say he looked out
of shape well, he's known tofade.
He fades in the second half ofmost fights.
It's been a big knock on him,but he was faded by round four.
The only difference betweenthose other fights in this fight
is what he would look likebefore he faded wasn't good.

(57:54):
It's like when you watch afootball game like after a bye
week or it's the first game ofthe season and the quarterback's
like a little off with thereceivers.
They're like overthrowing them.
They're missing five yards outby like a little bit.
I see trevor lawrence do it allthe time he fades quick.
He does, it's just.
It's just.
You're like he was never in agroove before he faded.

(58:14):
Everything looked hard for him,everything was hard for him to
score and like all the shit thatgot him to where he's at it
wasn't there.
So it's like he's either an oldfighter whose body isn't doing
what his brain is telling him todo anymore, or he's he's got to
.
He's got to hold himself andpossibly someone else
accountable, because if you'renot old and you're not shot and

(58:37):
you still got it, then that wasa lack of discipline before the
fight going into it for sure.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
I'm pretty sure, I think it's a lack of discipline.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
I think it's a handful of everything.
Like I spoke on the the famehe's getting way more fame Now.
You have all this Canelo moneyand you have a yes man in your
corner.
You're too much of a superstar.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
He's definitely a superstar, even though he's like
the only name with a plant.
Nobody else got that name he'salso, like.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
Everything is about his brand identity too the
clothing to the shoes, to how hedresses his lowriders, and you
can tell he's trying to buildthat.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Yeah, monetize yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
Yeah, and he was setting up shit for the future,
but it's like.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
But what's the breadwinner Fighting?
Go fight.
You have to win.
You have to win, win.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Yeah, go fight by any means necessary.
And in those that's when itcomes back to kind of bread man,
like in the 10th, 11th, 12thround, like bro, he should have
said what we just said Any meansnecessary.
You need to win, you're losingNot.
I love you, kid, I love you Winor lose.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
I'm going to be there next to you.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
I also think it comes down to his strength and
conditioning coach.
Yeah, yeah, he was with LarryWade, who's a famous strength
and condition coach, he might bevaping on the side of something
.
Bro, he fired Larry Wade afterthe Benavidez fight.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Really I don't want to say he fired him.
He's been with a different guyfor these last two fights Really
and it's like that's the newproduct bro.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Yeah, he faded quick and again we're kind of taking a
lot away from Resendez.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
But I'm not taking a lot from Resendez because
Resendez hit him with some shitbro.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
He did, but he didn't see the best Caleb plant, so we
can't really judge him off ofthat.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
He honestly didn't look like a top super
middleweight to me.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
At all.
Tapatio Right.
Tapatal underscore nine.
I gotta get you real there.
I'm just gonna call you hotsauce now.
So hot sauce says caleb stylestreet ball player hot sauce
yeah, this is him right here,man one hot sauce says caleb
style, eats a lot of his gas andwon't get better when he gets
older, especially versuspressure guys.

(01:00:53):
Then he goes on to say shoutout to Resendez's trainer.
He's been coaching up wins thisyear.
Last win was Beck the Bully.
I believe Was that the sametrainer.
Maybe he missed the Beck theBully fight.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
Beck, the Bully's trainer is Joel Diaz, I thought.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Yeah, that's what I thought too.

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
I don't think that's who Armando trains with.
I thought, yeah, that's what Ithought too.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
I don't think that's who Armando trains with.
Oh, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
Whatever he is right about plant style, because he
was always a boxer he was nevera power guy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
No, never.
We used to call him CalebPillowhands.
I remember that was goingaround Damn Well, when Lara got
older, he started to shit outmore because his legs ain't the
same.
And it's like caleb has to dothat, but like he don't have, I
think or two with with thecharlo build-up too.
Right, like they, he smackedthem.
They became friends.
Caleb had that dog in him thenand then since then I think he

(01:01:43):
lost that dog like silk sheetssince then he got the canelo
it's.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
I know that he got mad different shit.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
I gotta give him this , though I gotta give him this,
though, because a lot of peopleup what I saw on X or Twat or
whatever you call it were goingoff about how, like, oh, he only
fights once a year.
He only fights once a year,yeah, but he fought Canelo and
Benavidez like back to back.
Come on and Durrell, yeah, yeah, but Canelo and Benavidez, like
you got to give him his.

(01:02:10):
He's also fought back-to-backtune-up fights against guys who
were unheralded, and he got hurtin both of them.
Yeah, true, hey man, it's thatwhite alcohol.
It's that white alcoholic skinman.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
If you get a new training condition coach, you
got to be careful Because a lotof people are popping dirty.
Out here, a lot of people arepopping dirty.

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
He's a strength and condition coach for byu
athletics.
He got a job offer from the ufcto work at their pi yeah he
turned it down because they wereoffering the same thing byu is
offering him.
I was talking to him earliertoday.
He's like oh yeah, like Iwatched it.
He's like the whoever hisstrength and condition coach is
either didn't push him hardenough or pretty much set him up
for failure.
It's probably just giving himroutine shit and didn't actually

(01:02:56):
like challenge him or do havehim do shit to build upon oh, he
probably was like I'm not doingthis shit.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
He probably took that guylightly.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
Bro, for real but here's, here's where most of
caleb's plans, like respect,comes from right, because it's
not his wins.
His best win is durell, andthen it was katagi yeah, it was
because of the fact that hefought benavidez and canelo, and
he fought them both hard.
He knocked out you know he'sgot swagger.
He knocked out durell in thosesick ass shoes and he has he has

(01:03:26):
like swagger to him, smack andcharlo, like we talked about,
but it's like when you lose to aguy like armando resendez
there's no respect there otherthan the general respect you
give somebody for getting in thering.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
And then I could piggyback off that what he said
after they're like oh, you stillget the Charlo fight and now
Charlo's chomping at the bit forthat and that's still a money
fight.
And he goes oh, I'm going toexplore my rematch clause or
something like that.
It's like yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
It's match close or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
It's like, yeah, it's hard it's hard not to want uh
right away not to want to getthat lick back right away.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
So there's a thing, though, too.
Back to his last fight mccombiewe were talking about earlier
how he fights.
Pacheco, like mccombie, made aname for himself in that plant
fight because he's able to hurthim and he's able to rock now,
yeah, exactly so now, ifmccombie performs man, this is
he might be taking McCombie's ina win-win situation.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
What if he?

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
doesn't perform, though what if Pacheco goes out
there and lights him the fuck up?
Pacheco is going to get what hedeserves.
But I'm saying, what ifMcCombie looked better?
Because Plant is definitelydeclining.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Yeah, that's what I led with and you told me to hold
off.
Yeah, no, no, you're right.
No, no, it was good, but no,you're right.
But honestly, what that says tome, if that happens, what you
just said, like McCombie getslit up.
Props to Steven Nelson.
Steven Nelson's stock rises.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
Well, steven's tough I think his stock rose from that
fight either way, because he'sa tough dude.
What I'm just saying is we putMcCombie got a lot of respect
for that, for how heoverperformed versus
expectations.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
Basically, what you're saying is is it McCombie?

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
Is.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
McCombie that good, or is Caleb on the heavy decline
.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
Yeah, for sure, that fight's going to prove a lot.
Yeah, and I also feel bad forCharlo, because it's like Charlo
, he don't have a big win,neither.
If you think about it, hisbiggest win is Derevyanchenko,
julian Williams.
They don't have no big fights.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
No, and his layoff is another thing.
Yeah, two of them or three ofthem, I don't know.
Man, Coming off that layoff andeverything you just said, that
jab was still that jab was.

Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
But what I'm saying is what?

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
fight.
Is he going?

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
to get?

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
What fight is he going to get?

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
yeah, Is he going to get Resendez, which nobody's
going to pay for.
That.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
No, is he going to get the Plant fight, which just
lost a lot of interest also, too, with with plant I I'll I'll
still not that I've lost respectfor him.
It is what it is.
But like if he fights rightaway, say he takes the rematch
clause right away, right, andlike fights twice this year, or
jump jumps right into the charlofight right away, that's

(01:06:09):
another thing, because this,this newer version of kayla
plant, we've been given anexcuse because he fought Canelo
and Benavidez back-to-back.
I get it, he's not fightinglike he used to be, but it also
could be the opposite.
It could be because he's gotsilk sheets and he's rich and he
has two kids on the way and hiswife is beautiful.

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
Two straight fights that weren't worth him getting
up for.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
Yeah, yeah, to be honest, yeah that him getting up
for yeah, yeah, yeah, that too,that's a lot for a lot these
fighters, a lot of fighters, andhe's getting old too.

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
He's getting old.
That's where it gets hard.
It gets hard for both of thembecause, like, what do you do
next if it's not each other?
Because it's like they're both33.
In a month charlotte turns 35.
They don't have time to wait.
Another like for plantespecially.
He doesn't have the time this isgetting old aging yeah he's
getting old, you don't have thetime to take a year off, but you

(01:07:00):
also don't want to rush backtoo soon.
So it's like finding thatwindow of opportunity.
But I don't know if he goesback to that fight, that that
shit that he said after thefight last night, where he's
like I thought I did good.
That's another thing.
Like, bro, if you think you wonthat fight or if you think you

(01:07:20):
did well in that fight, you'reprobably not going to win the
rematch and you're definitelynot going to win the Charlo
fight.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
No, because there's like he was raising, even when
they were raising his hand, whenthe ref was about to, when they
were announcing who won orwhatever he was like and me and
Jerry were watching it.
We're like what the fuck hethinks he won.

Speaker 3 (01:07:40):
I was like there's no way.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
And then they said but then they said split
decision.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
When they said split, I was like they better not rob,
bro, they better not rob bro,and that's from a fanboy, that's
from like a child.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
Yeah, that's from his biggest fans.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
I was like they better not rob this dude.
Then when he, like everybody,always thinks I'm a Devin hater
because I make fun of him, like,oh, I can't believe you're not
shaming Ryan for doing steroids.
There's no idea.
It has nothing to do with who.
I wanted to win that fight.
What bothers me is that whenthat happened, everything got

(01:08:15):
pinned on Ryan taking Osterling.
There was no accountabilityfrom devin haney, who made real
mistakes in that fight, who hadserious technical flaws in that
fight and last night was thesame thing, even though he's one
of my favorite fighters of alltime like not taking any account
of like I get it.
Your ego, yeah, is bruisedheavily at that moment, but
behind closed doors.
If he's not takingaccountability, that's not good.

(01:08:39):
No, because there's a lot hedid wrong last night.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
There's probably a lot that he did leading up to it
his, his legs were gone in theback half, like when I tuned in
his legs there in the beginning.
Yeah, so I missed the beginningbut his legs were gone in the
back half and maybe entranceslooked terrible.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
His jab wasn't landing.
Where'd he come?

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
out to.
I can't even remember.

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
Because I was cooking leading up to that fight.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
So, yeah, I mean, what's next?
He has two options it's eithera rematch or Charlo, I guess.
I guess him and his team willsit down.
And again, I don't want to talkabout what he said too much
after, because, as a fighter,when you come right off a loss
like that, it's hard tomatriculate what's going through
your mind.
He's going to go back, watchthe film.
He's going to reevaluate, he'sgoing to talk to his wife.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
And it's like what if he's, if he's pillow hands down
?

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
I don't think he should go to 175 yeah, and again
.
He's in a tough spot right nowand and the concept of the show
is just like.
I don't think Tio should go upto 147.
Like, stay where you're at.

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
Can we take a quick break?
Yeah, I was pissed myself.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
I was just going to say me too, and I'm going to mix
another drink.
We're an hour in.
I'm going to timestamp this.
It's going to stay live and wewill be right back I'll be right
back Fucking my shoulder up.
Alright, we are back.
First ever piss break on theSparring Boxing Podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
It felt so great you guys ever watching the finals at
all I mean, Willie, we watchingthe finals.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
You're the basketball guy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
I mean the Knicks, depressing.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
I'm a Troubleshoes fan, bro, don't start.
But I can't stand watching SheaGillis Alexander play
basketball, bro.
It's excruciating.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
Is he zesty?
Or is it just me Keeping it?
Pg-13.

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
I don't think he's.
I mean, they're all kind ofzesty nowadays.
I'm not going to lie, but I'mserious, the way they dress.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
Well sure, yeah, yeah , halliburton too bro, he got
the white girls.
I heard.
I heard He'd be having a bunchof them.

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
I heard that yeah, you can't say nothing about him.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
He'd be having a bunch of them.
Good for him, bro.
Good for him.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
He'd be playing in the snow.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
All yeah, my Knicks lost, so I'm probably honestly,
if it's on and I'm home hangingout, yeah, but I'm not going to
go.

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
I'll watch the Stanley.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
Cup.
I like hockey now I can't watchbasketball, no more.
Playoff hockey is great.
I wish I'm too far removed.
Me too, I'm too far removedfrom hockey to become a fan.
Yeah, but I wish I wasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
That's not how I am with baseball.
Baseball like.
I'll watch baseball sparinglybut I can't.
I can't like lock in.
I'll go live parents, mygrandparents, they sit at home
and they drink miller light andwatch every single diamondbacks
baseball game.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
It's insane, that's awesome I can't watch that, like
I don't know how people watchit now, because I don't have
cable, no more, so it's like Idon't.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
Oh, you're the stream and everything yeah, I don't
know I can't watch it oh my god,did you see how much money it
would cost to watch all thefootball games this year?

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
I've seen that shit, it's on everything.
Amazon Peacock.
Now, punchline is the only oneI got Peacock.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
Nah, I got everything too honestly, I gotta like go
look, because what I didrecently and then we'll get
right back into boxing this is along episode.
Um, what I did recently was Ilooked on, like my, my phone of,
like my, what I'm subscribed to, and I'm like what the fuck is
all?
I got like 20 editing things.
I think I said this last showtoo, like I'm like yo, I gotta

(01:12:33):
delete this shit.
And then then I'm thinking Igot something.
It's called because I'm agambler it was Sunrise Stream
and it was some D2 basketballteam, something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
I share accounts with a lot of people, so that helps
me out.

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
But they started to buckle down on that too.
You can't have this muchhousehold.
There's many TVs and shit LikeNetflix.
Bitch, I'm about to take thisshit off my shit.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
Well, DAZN was like the worst we can get right back
into boxing.
Dazn started with like noRemember.
They were advertising years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
Fuck DAZN too.
We pay for the app and then wecan't watch the fights.
Like re-watch the fights theday after.

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
We gotta wait until it comes up free for like two
weeks and they raise prices ontheir shit.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
Yeah always, always raising prices.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
Yeah, I'm about to delete this shit too.

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
It's like Apple always hit me with these random
ass charges.
Yo, I don't even know what.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
I see my PayPal just be like $15.
Random ass charges.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
I see my PayPal.
It'd just be like $15.
Paypal Apple yeah yeah, Randomlike $5.99 shit.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:39):
Like dude my no motherfuckers are laundering
money.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
I know it.
I'm getting like all theseOnlyFans statements and I'm like
what is this?
What is this thing?
I don't know what.
This is you a freakymotherfucker?

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
I'm kidding, you know what, though I criticize you
for being into OnlyFans and shit.
I literally just entered acontest two days ago to win a
brick of soap made entirely outof Sidney.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
Sweeney's bath water.
Oh my God, you did.
I was like you know what, bro,I posted that shit.
I reposted that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
It probably exfoliates your skin.
Though I get it, I'm not goingto use it.
I'm just going to smell itevery day.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
All right, we're going to keep this PG-13.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
Who is this?

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
What.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
She's at all fair.
We'll tell you who she is.
I can't name a single.
She's an actress.
I can't name a single thing.
She's in oh my God, maddie.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
But she produces great bath soap.
It exfoliates, it gets rid ofyour blackheads.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
I'm not going to say nobody's name, but he said the
same thing.
He said I would.
I'm like you know All rightBack to boxing.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
We got a lot to talk about here with boxing.
The rest of the Keyshawn I'msorry Keyshawn Davis is fighting
.
We're done with Kayla Plant,right yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
I'm heartbroken.
I don't want you talking aboutit.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
Alright, we will move on.
So we spoke on the white folkand now we're going to get to a
card that has no white folk.
Keyshawn Davis versus Edwin DeLos Santos Top-ranked card.
Keyshawn's hometown, norfolk,norfolk, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
We can't go there because Puma got bad energy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
Nah dude they got bad energy with me.
Man, the Virginians don't likeme for some reason, but I have
something written up about thattoo I'll talk about.
But let's get into theundercard first and then we'll
go into Keyshawn.
I mean, listen, there's a lotof cool fighters on this card
that we want to see.
The only fight to me on theundercard that kind of like is
like okay, that that could be agood one is albright versus

(01:15:38):
kelvin davis, the brother ofkishan.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
Okay, um, because all shot, fought all right right
yeah, and that's who we foughtwhen he smoked weed?
Yeah, exactly I was gonna go.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
It went the distance, but they got ruled to no
contest.
So Kelvin is trying to avengehis brother's no contest, it's a
no contest for weed bro Forweed in Texas.
Yeah, the Texas Commission.
You know what If?

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
you beat somebody by decision, mind you, and you're
high on weed.
You deserve that win, Whoevermade that rule has never smoked
weed before.
I can't even make my bed if I'mhigh.
That fool went out there andbeat a legit fighter.
Give him the win, bro.
Give him the win.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
It's so stupid because it's legal in a bunch of
states.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
It's like almost a performance enhancement.
Sometimes it depends.
You can start getting in a zone.
You ever play basketball high,Nuh-uh Boy.
It's either you even bad or youreally good.
You ever play basketball high,Nah Boy.
It's either you even bad or youreally good.
You start seeing.

Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
The only thing I'm good at when I'm high is coming
up with shit.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
Like coming up with ideas.
No, coming up with ideas is apure Bro.
You are you you, you.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
He texts me some shit .
Sometimes he's like oh sorry,I'm real high.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
I'm like damn dude, you're like little wayne yeah,
my scissor bro that's how I comeup with shit.
I used to make up dances doingthat.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
Yeah, yeah, not high, and just make up dance, not me
back back in my heyday, fucking.
The room would spin and I'dfall asleep, so I started
drinking that's like, that'sedibles.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
Oh my god, I ain't gonna bro you ever done the
liquid ones a liquid, yeah, youtake it into the drink.
One where?

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
it's like 15 one bottle in one bottle we all vibe
too much.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
We got to stand there for the pink cane.

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
Bro, I learned the hard way.
You're not supposed to drinkall of those liquid edibles.
It's like you take a littlebottle cap of them and that's
like eating one edible.
I drank the whole bottle atonce.
It was like taking 15 ediblesBro.
I thought I was going to die.

Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
Jesus, I thought I was going to die one time too
high as hell All right, butKeyshawn did not think he was
going to die.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
He got rid of the milk contest.

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
No, he was really high during the fight.
No, no, he smoked.
No, not at all, he smoked weed,I guess before the fight.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
I think he admitted to it too.
I don't want to falsely sayshit, but I'm pretty sure he
owned up to it, by the way, thatfight shouldn't have been a no
contest.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
There's a bunch of friends of ours on the card Not
friends, but people we like onthe card One friend, Troy Isley.

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
He's a friend of ours , troy Isley's, on the card.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
I'm really cool with Tiger, tiger's on the card,
delonte Johnson, tiger Johnson'son the card, tiger's.
Cool as hell too.
But the only fight that reallystands out to me, aside from, I
mean, even, keyshawn versuswe'll get there in a minute.
We're going to obviously talkabout that Kelvin Davis versus
Nahir Albright.
He went the distance withJermaine Ortiz.
He did go the distance withKeyshawn too, so that fight is a

(01:18:37):
little interesting.
It's a step-up fight for Kelvin, yeah, and Kelvin's not, as
good as Keyshawn or Keyon.

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
And this is a big fight for him.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
Yeah, and he's home.

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
Yeah, if he show out he can get his.
He kind of like probably hadthem, kept them all in boxing.
He lost heart in boxing alreadybecause he dipped off and he's
back, keon's on the card too,the whole fam's on the card.
So this is going to be a goodfight for him.

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
And for the record.
For the record, I have to saythis every time I am a Keyshawn
fan, Like I like Keyshawn, Justhis.
When they came to MSG man, likeVirginia came to MSG.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
He got family out here.

Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
I don't understand why they did not like my
personality or something, butwhatever, I don't care.
I'm a Keyshawn fan.
It is what it is.
I'm also a Tito fan and I wouldlove for them, too, to fight.
But let's just into quichondavis versus de los santos.

(01:19:42):
Um, but I I want to lead inwith real quick.
Boxing is back again.
We took a little break in may.
June heats up.

Speaker 3 (01:19:45):
Here we are yeah, june and july are good yeah and
um.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
You know, we like we started the show with, though we
need seasons too, becausefucking I'm going to be single
in a studio apartment above ashithole bar and I don't want to
be.
So let's just talk aboutKeyshawn.
Sorry, I'm getting sidetrackednow, like I'm high, yeah, what

(01:20:10):
do you got?
Obviously, we're all back inKeyshawn, right, we're not?

Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
Yeah, I mean, I want De Los Santos to do well, like I
got him on.
Thanks for Playing.
He's going to be wearing ourshirts, he's going to be wearing
Adams.
So I got him on two things.
Oh, really Cool.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
Yeah, for those who don't get him on Adams.

Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
He was already on Adams.
Shout yourself out real quicktoo, if people made it this far.
Uh, who you work for?
I know you did it last episode.
Yeah, so I work for.
Thanks for playing the t-shirtcompany.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
I get a lot of fighters sponsored by them and
then great t-shirts too yeah,great great, great t-shirts
seriously and I'm not justsaying that the t-shirts I'm
going to give people for freeare not as good um, and then the
, the boxing shoes too, and andI'm I haven't yeah, I have no
affiliation, they introduced meto him, just they're like yo,
you should meet this guy.
You guys have like similarpersonality.

(01:21:01):
Those are your favorite boxingshoes yo, those boxing shoes are
are are dope for real uh I justI'm.

Speaker 3 (01:21:08):
I'm should be getting a proposal, but uh, he's at
least going to be wearing themfor his next fight.
But it's a.
Quinn moses got him signed tothe brand hey, quinn, yeah,
that's fire.

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
I'm so excited.
Yeah, get him while they'reyoung.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
Yeah, yeah and then he asked he asked me the other
day he's like yo uh, shakurwants to try a pair of the ones
you sent me.
Can you send me one?
I'm like, yeah for sure,absolutely.
I don't think shakur is goingto wear it.
I think sh Shakur still has adeal with Reebok or somebody.
But the fact that he justwanted to try them and the fact
that I was able to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
If we do Bump into Shakur In the coming weeks, I
will Give you a shout out.
Shakur doesn't seem very fanfriendly, especially of drunk
white guys, but I'm going to bethere.

Speaker 3 (01:21:54):
I'm the one I don't know.
He probably might not evenremember it, but I met with
Manscaped, with their vicepresident, two years ago.
Oh yeah, it's a good story.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
It's a good story.
Tell this.
This is a good story.

Speaker 3 (01:22:06):
So remember when Shakur fought the Brazilian dude
Canc say so.

Speaker 1 (01:22:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
Yeah, because I thought that was a tough fight
and he missed weight in thatfight and he missed weight for
that fight so he lost his beltand then the next fight he moved
up to 135.
So I reached out to Shakur'steam.
From the email on his account Iwas like, hey, I got a pretty
good idea to do a sponsorshipthing with Manscaped the Razors.
I'd love to meet with you aboutit.
I met with his camp manager,which was his cousin, jihad, and

(01:22:37):
I explained it to him.
They liked it.
He he talked to shakur about it.
He's like yeah, dude, we'redown, go ahead.
So I reached out to manscaped,got the meeting with them, told
them like, look, I'm here onbehalf of shakur, here's the
proof.
I was like here's the idea.
I was like, because everythingeverybody's like the in boxing
people think is dead.
But when you get inside thesport you look everything
everybody's like in boxingpeople think it's dead.
And when you get inside thesport you look at it.
There's like a lot going on,there's a lot of interaction,

(01:22:58):
there's a lot of media about it.
It's just the outside worlddoesn't see that.
So I was like the three thingsthat most people talk about
about boxing on social media iseither like something directly
related to a fight, a fightgetting announced, a fight
result whatever.
The other thing is whenfighters talk shit.
And the third thing is when afighter who has a lot of

(01:23:19):
popularity, fans and haters ifthey fuck up they get arrested,
whatever.
Like all the social media andboxing is going to talk about
that.
It's like I got a way to do allthree and it's easy to pull off
.
Shakur missed weight in hislast fight.
And it's easy to pull offshakur missed weight in his last
fight.
If you do a thing about like anhour before weigh-ins this
fight and do a false flag like afake report saying shakur might

(01:23:40):
miss weight again and he'sstruggling to get down to the
weight limit, social media isgoing to blow up with that,
talking shit about him, sayingall these things don't give
everyone your secrets, don't getit.

Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
We're not that famous yet, but one day we all will be
like Dang, like Jamal's Charlessaid like y'all can't fuck with
me.

Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
You can't fuck with me, bro, when it comes up to
this idea.
So the plan was for this fakenews report to come out about
him possibly missing weight.
Yeah, I'll get all the socialmedia talking about it.
Devin Haney is probably goingto say something because he
never misses an opportunity totalk shit and get it on camera.
Last ditch effort ever miss isan opportunity to stalk shit and

(01:24:16):
get it on camera.
Last-ditch effort to makeweight, he has to shave body
hair with one of manscaped'srazors.
That's the whole.
Thing and that's smart as hell.
They said no, they're like it'stoo gimmicky.
I'm like you don't?
You just don't understandboxing.
Then this is like like youthink it's gimmicky because you
know it's not real, but youdon't, like you're not looking
at it from a perspective ofsomebody who doesn't know that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
But social media Like what?
That's crazy Social media, Fakethings is always going on.
That's not real and the truthon the lie is better than the
truth.
It'd be bigger than the truth.

Speaker 3 (01:24:50):
And then all the social media reports like oh,
shakur has to use a manscaperazor to make weight.
Everybody's gonna talk aboutthat yeah, exactly all the
advertisement for your productis gonna get done by people so
like did you think of that?

Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
did you think of that while you were high?

Speaker 3 (01:25:03):
most likely.

Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
Yeah, that was corny.
They, they.
Why did they take that leap,man?
That would have been crazy, Idon't know it would have hit.

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
It would have hit, definitely would hit that's what
I'm saying um either way so if,if we do bump into him though I
will, I will because because Iknow you said that he wanted to
try I don't want to get introuble, but he may or may not.

Speaker 3 (01:25:24):
We sent him a pair.
We said okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
So yeah, I'll, I'll let him know you're uh, we know
you, we know your body.
I won't say it like that.
Say it like that I don't knowwhat I'll say Y'all both can be
a little bit too freaky.

Speaker 3 (01:25:41):
I might have to dick like fucking.
Oh, okay, you knew he's got adick like Shane McMahon.
What?

Speaker 2 (01:25:45):
Alright, anyway, keisha.

Speaker 1 (01:25:47):
Davis.

Speaker 3 (01:25:50):
Imagine if I fanned out with Caleb Plant like that
Just like you knocked outAnthony Durrell.
Did you know that I'm white too?

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
you know just in case you were wanting to hang out or
something.

Speaker 3 (01:26:05):
Keyshawn Davis, remember the thing I told you
about De Los Santos?
Do you think we?
Should say that on air.
Yeah, about the age and the noabout his legs, bro, oh um, yeah
, say whatever you want like I'mnot gonna say who told me say p
, say, say, say what, you say,what you know.
But just keep it, just don'tjust think of shadow banning

(01:26:28):
because well, no, no, no, it'snot that I just I don't want to
put business out there, but Iwas talking.
Oh, if you feel it's not, right, don.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
just I don't want to put business out there, but I
was talking to you.

Speaker 3 (01:26:34):
If you feel it's not right, Don't, but whatever
whatever you want to feel, right, I just I don't care, we don't
have a shit bad.
But um, I was talking to uh, Iwas talking to a guy I know he
trains out of good matchmaking.
He's like, just like kishan.
Like kishan, yeah, he beat alegit world champion, but like,

(01:26:55):
now they're giving him de lossantos just because de los
santos kind of has a name fromwhen he fought shakur.
And he's like, but like, why doyou think he's been out of the
ring so long and he's gotfucking blood clots in his legs?
yeah, oh, you did say that Idon't know but, like not not to
you know make the guy who toldme that you know feel a certain

(01:27:15):
type of way.
I don't know if it's true ornot.
I don't know where he got thatinformation from.

Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
It might.
Maybe he had something going on, but I don't think the like the
boxing athletic commissions arepretty strict.

Speaker 1 (01:27:26):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
That's a liability right there, like in the NBA,
when you get blood clots in likeyour arm, they done they be
done.
You know what?

Speaker 3 (01:27:34):
I mean Look at Dane.

Speaker 1 (01:27:38):
So who knows, wimby?

Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
He was the next face of the NBA, so, that being said,
boxing is dirtier.

Speaker 1 (01:27:48):
Boxing is grungy, let me not.

Speaker 3 (01:27:51):
I was about to say they're allowing a 46-year-old
Pacquiao to fight.
Come on.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
Yeah, I know, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:27:57):
Vegas, vegas.
You think he got the jab?
All right, let me know he'sshadowed me, pacquiao.
No, no, I'm talking about DeLos Santos.

Speaker 3 (01:28:06):
Oh, oh no.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
I don't know A lot of people that got that thing.

Speaker 3 (01:28:13):
He got that Johnson Johnson special.

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
Yeah yeah, anyway, here we go, it's always at the
end.

Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
It's always at the end.

Speaker 3 (01:28:24):
Yeah, jets.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
J-E-T-S Jets, Jets, Jets.
We always get banned at the end.
Anyway, let's talk about thefight itself, though.
You know what I want to seefrom the fight itself Keyshawn
again to the Virginians.
I'm rooting for Keyshawn.
I want to see another stoppage.

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
I want to see that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
Oh man, we can knock him out.
I want to see Keyshawn get hitwith some shit, though, because
this is the hardest puncher he'sfought in a long while.

Speaker 1 (01:28:55):
And say what you want about De Los Santos.
We say that, but Keyshawn is,so he's big man.
So is Edwin, though, edwinisn't small, edwin is, but he
looked kind of small againstShakur.
Shakur made him look small, buthe couldn't catch Shakur.

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
I don't know, nah.
Nah, he looked big versusShakur.
He looked big versus Shakur.

Speaker 1 (01:29:08):
Shakur's type big too .

Speaker 3 (01:29:15):
Yeah too.
Yeah, he looks big, bro, shakurlooks big in a ring.
Shakur is big, but Edwin lookslike he looks like he is.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
I think Kishore is probably bigger than all of them
, Probably yeah, well, look atEdwin versus.

Speaker 3 (01:29:23):
Rayo.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
He looked big versus Rayo.

Speaker 3 (01:29:27):
There was talk about Edwin going to 140 after that,
Shakur fight Edwin's big dude.

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
He's a big dude at 135.
I feel like he was too bigagainst Shakur Because.

Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
Shakur was fucking yeah, because you couldn't catch
him.
But in this fight we cancompare Keyshawn and I'm going
to get into that in one secondand then we're going to close
out the show because it's beenway too long but Keyshawn does
not fight like Shakur Twototally different styles.
He actually fights yeah, andyou're right, and this isn't a

(01:29:57):
knock on Shakur but Keyshawnisn't going to back up like that
.
He's not as defensively sound.
But my only gripe with Keyshawnis I want to see if he can take
a hit.
He's great, I like him, he doeseverything well, but I want to
see him get hit with some shitand see how he bounces back.
Like when has Keyshawn got hitwith some shit?
I want to see him get hit.

Speaker 3 (01:30:19):
I know that Lemos guy cracked him.
Yeah, I even had that videoabout him but he's like he
didn't feel nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
But did you see how much bigger he was than Lemos
too?
Yeah, he's huge.

Speaker 1 (01:30:29):
Edwin De Los Santos is a big-ass dude I want to see,
because I want to see how bighe is.
I want to see him get it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
And Keyshawn's key to victory.
His key to victory, for me, isbody, body, head, body, body,
head, because he's so big.
One thing, though, I will sayis we're going to see, because
he's not like Shakur.

Speaker 1 (01:30:49):
I think this is going to be an exciting fight.
It could be a potential fightof the year so far.
If we can get there.
Depends on how.
On De Los Santos, if he lastsor not.

Speaker 2 (01:31:02):
That's what I'm saying, though.
Say De Los Santos, how big heis.
He comes in and he popsKeyshawn with some shit quick
and stuns him.
I want to see what Keyshawndoes Again.
I think Keyshawn's going to winno matter what, but I want to
see what he does.
I want to see how you respondgoing forward.
Like he's never been hit withsome shit, the second half of
the fight is gonna be huge yeahyeah facts that legs thing is

(01:31:28):
real yeah, if that's real, andand with the size that making
135 that big, that's, that'sanother thing.
Let's see what the weigh-inlooks like too.
I want to see that Before I bet.
I want to see the weigh-in.

Speaker 3 (01:31:40):
I'm just because 135 is kind of in a shitty spot
right, Like you got names in it,but it's like the names, like a
lot of them, are cool with eachother.

Speaker 2 (01:31:49):
So I was going to get there too.
Like, say, keyshawn dismantlesDe Los Santos, right.

Speaker 3 (01:31:56):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:31:57):
This would be the perfect storm for Keyshawn
versus Shakur, but it's 2025 andthey want to be best friends.
Keep it business, just keep itbusiness.
He's moving 140, right, yeah,but still still like imagine
Keyshawn versus Shakur.

Speaker 3 (01:32:11):
The good thing is that Two Olympians.

Speaker 2 (01:32:15):
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:32:16):
I don't think that fight.

Speaker 2 (01:32:19):
They both said Keyshawn was adamant about it.
He's like I will never fightShakur, that's going to be at
the crazy end.
I don't like that man.
If you were Michael Jordan andI'm LeBron James and we're the
same age but we're best friends.
We grew up together and you'relike yo, let's play one-on-one
for all the marbles live onYouTube.
And then Larry Bird comes in.

(01:32:41):
He comes in right and we doKing of the Court or something
right.
I'd be like, yeah, that'sawesome, bro, and we'll be best
friends after.

Speaker 1 (01:32:58):
Well, here's the other thing, though at the end
of the day it's a sport but theynot hating each other, but it's
a sport.

Speaker 3 (01:33:02):
It's a sport.
They're not even it's nothitting each other, bro, but
it's a sport.

Speaker 1 (01:33:05):
Man, yeah, but that mental that mental element that
you need in that yes, you got it.
There's so much pressure thebuild, the build up for is not
going to be everyone's sparredeveryone's sparred the build up
is not going to be the same, buteveryone's sparred.

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
Everyone's sparred.

Speaker 3 (01:33:14):
The buildup is not going to be the same.
I'm talking about in a realfight.
That's like a love spar.
That's the problem, thoughthat's the problem with Think
about this though, bro.
Think about that.
Let's say you're a fighter.
Let's say you're a shipper.
You got over a millionfollowers on Instagram alone.
Your teammates in practice infootball.

Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
That's what I'm saying You're not trying to hurt
them.
That's what I'm saying.
This fight is not going to bebuilt up right.
It's not.

Speaker 3 (01:33:37):
I'm not saying it's that, but you're walking out
there.
You're walking out there.
There's so much on the line ona fight of that level.
You got millions of peoplewatching live.
You got thousands of peoplethere.
You got everybody on socialmedia who's saying things before
and after the fight and theseguys are like like where do they
go mentally before?

Speaker 2 (01:33:55):
but it's it's a win-win.

Speaker 3 (01:33:57):
It's a win-win yeah, I just I don't think it's a good
fight.
I don't think it's a good fight, basically it's not a win-win
they'd be so apprehensive.
You know what I'm saying yeahuntil yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
But everybody has a, like you said, like like the.
The story goes everyone has aplan to get punched in the face.
Like if my best friend, like ifWillie, if Willie I love Willie
, right, I'll take a bullet forWillie.
If he just stalled off andpunched me in the face, I might
shoot Willie.

Speaker 1 (01:34:22):
Like I'm dead.
Hey, I'm done.
I'm done.
What happened to?

Speaker 3 (01:34:30):
like this whole.
Justification for the fight waswho cares?
If they're friends, they shouldjust fight each other.

Speaker 1 (01:34:37):
This is not good.
The point I'm making is ify'all love, that did not sound
right.

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
No think about that though, willie, his whole
argument for the reason for thatfight should be made.
He's like who cares?
If they're friends, they shouldjust fight.
And then his thing is like ifmy best friend hits me, I'm
going to kill him, I'm going toshoot him, I'm going to shoot
him.

Speaker 2 (01:35:01):
No, no, I'm exaggerating, but the point I'm
making, the point I'm making islike You're going to shoot the
black boy.
I've seen Willie spar hisfriends.
I've seen Willie spars friendsright.
I've seen it firsthand.
It's good friends and Williegets hit in the face and he goes
different and, as you know, yousparred, we all sparred.
When you get punched, when yournose gets hit right, it's

(01:35:25):
different.
I read out, I just read outyeah, like your boy.

Speaker 1 (01:35:28):
Yeah, but no.

Speaker 2 (01:35:31):
We're going to have an extended show, he said he's
going to shoot me.

Speaker 1 (01:35:34):
At the point I was exaggerating.
I remember that I don't want tobe here.
I don't feel comfortable.

Speaker 3 (01:35:42):
Shut up.
I want to remind the crowd andthe audience.

Speaker 1 (01:35:46):
That I'm not.
I was here.

Speaker 3 (01:35:48):
I'm not complicit with this.

Speaker 2 (01:35:50):
I'm not assisting, here we go again Anyway.
Keyshawn Davis and Alvin DaleSantos.
This is my point, thoughimplicit with this.
I'm not assisting, here we goagain anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:35:55):
Keisha davis this is my point, though this was the
part I was trying to makeearlier.
Here's the good news is thatmost people believe, myself
included, that because top rankscontract with esp and it's up
in august and bob is alreadydoing a lot of work with the
saudis into the zone, loaningout his fighters, so the the
general consensus is that toprank is moving to DAZN after

(01:36:17):
that, which means fights withguys like, you know, not just
Shakur, but Zapata, kid, austinthey're all there now, even the
guys up at 140 if he has to moveup.

Speaker 2 (01:36:29):
Yeah.
So let me ask you somethingthen Kid Austin, what is he
doing?

Speaker 3 (01:36:35):
now, well, he's fighting tevin farmer on the
jake.
Oh, that's, that's a good fight.

Speaker 2 (01:36:41):
If and the only issue I have with this fight was and
and I was wrong, the last time,older now I did not think.
I did not think tevin would beable to get up for there's a pay
to fight right the the secondone, I was like there's no way
Tevin could do that twice.
And he did, he did, he lost orwhatever, but he got up for that
fight and he showed up.

Speaker 3 (01:37:02):
Also, too, we don't know what Kid Austin is.
Both times he's had a big fightscheduled, they fell through.

Speaker 2 (01:37:07):
He got sick.

Speaker 3 (01:37:07):
Yeah, he got real sick, Well he got sick against
Shakur, and then the fightagainst Sylve fell through.

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
Yeah, and you know who else got sick Dubois.

Speaker 1 (01:37:16):
Yo, that sounds my boy really.
Probably was really sick.

Speaker 3 (01:37:20):
Isn't it crazy how he got sick and had to pull out of
his fight with Joseph Parkerand then Joseph Parker wins and
Dubois just gets a title shot.

Speaker 2 (01:37:29):
That's wild boxing, and I'm not gonna lie.
I was never like a big JosephParker fan.

Speaker 1 (01:37:34):
I've grown to like him more.
They probably didn't want to dowhat they ended up losing Did
you see what Joseph Parkerposted recently.

Speaker 2 (01:37:40):
No, I'm not even gonna say it, just go look at
Joseph Parker's Instagram andlook at the song and look what
he posted.
Bro, he's funny on the internet.
He's a funny-ass guy on theinternet.
Ah shit, look later.
It's buzzing.

Speaker 3 (01:37:58):
I don't know if that's me, because my shit's in.

Speaker 2 (01:38:00):
Nah, you like, touched the phone and it started
my internet.
Isn't that bad man.

Speaker 3 (01:38:05):
Are you talking about the shit where he's doing like
rows, like on the fuckingmachine.

Speaker 2 (01:38:09):
No, there's a song.
There's a song with it, afamous song.
There's a song with it A famoussong.

Speaker 1 (01:38:20):
Hold on Moment of silence.

Speaker 2 (01:38:22):
Whatever, Just look later.
It is funny and you know whatthat was with Dubois.
And again, I don't hate Dubois.
I just know Usyk second timearound is going to fucking
dismantle him, but I don't hateDubois.
I just know Usyk second timearound is going to fucking
dismantle him, but I don't hateDubois.

Speaker 1 (01:38:37):
Was that punch below the belt?

Speaker 3 (01:38:41):
What you mean, punchlines.

Speaker 2 (01:38:43):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:38:45):
Was it punchline though.
You like cut out.

Speaker 1 (01:38:49):
Oh, I said punch Du Bois against Usyk.

Speaker 3 (01:38:55):
No, that looked like a clean shot to me.
A clean, yes, it looked like itwas right on the belt line.

Speaker 1 (01:39:01):
This guy.
What happened?
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:39:05):
It was a weird angle, it was a weird, it was a weird
situation, um one of thosethings where it's like because
you're thinking like he still,he still quit after that fight,
after.

Speaker 1 (01:39:15):
Thank you yeah, no, he definitely did but so, all
right, we're gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:39:19):
We're gonna keep it moving.
What's, what's your prediction,real quick, for quichon versus
de los santos?
Do you have any bets?
You're not a gambling man, likeI'm not a gambler.

Speaker 3 (01:39:27):
But I do like to look at the over under sometimes.
Yeah, like I get generalfeelings about like if a guy
will knock somebody out or yeah,so what do you think about
quichon versus de los santos?

Speaker 2 (01:39:36):
I don't know what the over under is.

Speaker 3 (01:39:37):
I have no idea, man if it is, I like I like to do
group round betting though, so.

Speaker 2 (01:39:43):
So give me like one through four, one through three,
eight through ten.

Speaker 3 (01:39:46):
Eight through ten.
I think you saw some eightthrough ten, maybe even six or
seven.

Speaker 1 (01:39:54):
Seven through nine.

Speaker 2 (01:39:56):
I'm not going to lie Because of Keyshawn's last fight
and the dude behind us whodidn't like us.
Fourth round yeah, he's just inmy ear.
Fourth round, fourth round,didn't like you.
Who didn't like us?
Fourth round yeah, he's just inmy ear.
Fourth round, fourth round,didn't like you, didn't like me.
Yeah, I wonder why he keptgoing.
Fourth round, fourth round,fourth round.
And I was like whatever.
I thought Keyshaw was going toknock him out, but I didn't
think it would be the fourthround.

(01:40:16):
So I bet him $100, shook on itand I lost.
He knocked him out in thefourth fucker.
Yeah, he beat the shit out ofthe other chick and I wasn't
expecting that.
I was expecting it later, but Ipaid the man.
I always pay my debts, exceptwhat I got going on in my credit
card.
But I paid the man and it iswhat it is.

(01:40:37):
I think Keyshawn sparks himearly.
Really, yeah, just because,again, I want to see Keyshawn
get hit with some shit.
The only thing negating my betis that if Keyshawn gets hit
with some real shit becauseEdwin has pop, just cancel the
Shakur fight.
Edwin has pop, right.
If Keyshawn gets hit with someshit that makes him fight

(01:40:59):
defensively he could go over,but I'm going to go under six.

Speaker 3 (01:41:03):
Under six.
It's ballsy, but I'm going togo under six.

Speaker 1 (01:41:08):
I don't think it's that ballsy.
That's probably good money.

Speaker 2 (01:41:13):
De Los Santos isn't going to run away.

Speaker 3 (01:41:17):
If that thing with his legs is true, he can't run
away.

Speaker 2 (01:41:19):
Yeah, there's a lot of ifs.
That's my under six, underseven, whatever.
I didn't look, but that's justoffhand.

Speaker 3 (01:41:28):
I bet you it's something like nine and a half,
eight and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:41:31):
Really, If it's that, hit the under hard.
If it's that hit the under hard.

Speaker 3 (01:41:37):
If it's nine and a half, I'd hit under.

Speaker 2 (01:41:40):
If it's eight and a half, I'd go under Again.
De Los Santos' only chance tonot get knocked out or beat
Keyshawn is to spark him early,and that's easier.
Yeah, and that's easier saidthan done.

Speaker 1 (01:41:54):
Don't Keyshawn, that might turn him up.
Yeah, nah, I don't know.
We don't know when he gettouched?

Speaker 2 (01:42:00):
Yeah, but we don't know, bro, we don't know,
Because he's never been like.
This dude is big.
This dude is big.
This dude's coming in there atlike 165.
Edwin's big.

Speaker 1 (01:42:09):
I don't know if he's that big.
I don't think he's big.

Speaker 2 (01:42:10):
I'm exaggerating, but like you said before, if that
blood clot shit is true, thatmeans he has high cholesterol
and he's eating yeah he's eatingthe Dominican shit, exactly
Salami and plantains and shitCheese.
Sounds, so good Sounds so goodthat chicharron.
Chicharron, everything but thenext thing we want to talk about

(01:42:35):
, and then we're going to closeit out with this.
We can't go an episode wealready spoke about him once
Wait TO again.
Let me backtrack yo we talkedabout.
Troy Isley, but AbdullahMason's on the card too,
Abdullah's on here.

Speaker 3 (01:42:48):
Yeah, yeah, that's another one, just another name
at 135.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:42:54):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (01:42:55):
You heard what he said.
You heard what he said, thoughhe fight him.
He said.
He said if the business speaks,I'll fight anybody.
They all say that, though, but,shakur, that's my problem.

Speaker 3 (01:43:09):
Shakur and Keyshawn didn't.
Keyshawn wanted that FrankMartin fight for a while, but I
bet you now, especially if theydo go to the zone, he wants the
Andy Cruz fight.

Speaker 2 (01:43:17):
I don't know if he wants that Andy Cruz fight.

Speaker 3 (01:43:20):
I think he wants the Andy Cruz fight.

Speaker 2 (01:43:22):
I think he thinks he beats him in the post Andy Cruz
fight.

Speaker 3 (01:43:23):
I think he thinks he beats him in the pros, andy Cruz
.
Don't look bad though, bro yeahbut he don't look.

Speaker 2 (01:43:29):
I mean, that's what makes it a good fight.

Speaker 3 (01:43:30):
I don't think being good scares him.
I don't think he wants to fightFrank Martin, because Frank
Martin looks bad.

Speaker 1 (01:43:35):
But he wanted revenge .

Speaker 3 (01:43:37):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:43:39):
But that could go wrong too.
You see how, when people gothistory of fighting each other,
shit go left and Andy Cruz wantsthe Kishon fight.

Speaker 2 (01:43:48):
since he got into the pros, he wants the Kishon fight
.
So I don't know, but we'llcross that bridge if that bridge
comes.

Speaker 3 (01:43:55):
But Abdullah is like I'm trying to think of a good
comparison.
The last time there was afighter that good without a belt
and you were just waiting, Iwould say Boots maybe.

Speaker 1 (01:44:06):
Yeah, when Boots wasn't a champion at
Welterweight, boots was great.

Speaker 3 (01:44:09):
This dude.
We're just waiting for him tobe champion.

Speaker 2 (01:44:12):
I hate to bring it up and we're going to go there
next with what we're going totalk about.
But Tio too, tio had that.
He was knocking out dudes, hewas doing everything, right.

Speaker 3 (01:44:23):
Punching behind his back and shit.

Speaker 2 (01:44:25):
Yeah, y'all remember that.
That's actually like that fight.
I remember I'm sitting downhere watching TO did a
behind-the-back punch and I'mlike I've never seen that in my
life.

Speaker 3 (01:44:37):
The craziest one was when he jumped up and like
punched down.

Speaker 2 (01:44:39):
What the fuck?
That was versed like a seasonedpro.
It wasn't like a nobody.

Speaker 3 (01:44:43):
Yeah, it was a hot top rank.
I'm going to go refill my drinkreal quick, guys, is that cool?

Speaker 2 (01:44:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, me and Willie will just chop it up.
And then we got to close it out.
Willie's like I started atseven.
What the fuck?
All right, willie, how's life?
Man, we're going to just, we'redoing real podcast shit with
the dance.

Speaker 1 (01:45:01):
Oh my shit's a shot.

Speaker 2 (01:45:03):
Yeah, I did legs the other day.
My shit's a shot.

Speaker 1 (01:45:08):
My hip was fucked up.
Today I gotta start trainingagain, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:45:13):
I'm on vacation in June, the end of June.
I want to put that other bag inthe garage.
I got a garage gym, ladies andgentlemen, garage boxing gym.
You got the bag back.
No, we gotta get it though.

Speaker 1 (01:45:23):
We and we got to.
Yeah, you got the bag back.

Speaker 2 (01:45:25):
No, we got to get it, though we need your help.
It's buried, I heard.

Speaker 1 (01:45:31):
I heard it's buried, so I need to get back in the gym
.

Speaker 2 (01:45:34):
This is the problem, though.
We get three dudes that vibebro.
We just yap Like like this isme and him after every fight and
I'm pissed, drunk, piss, drunkon live like an idiot just
yapping.
I don't even remember half theshit we talk about.

Speaker 3 (01:45:50):
All right, he's back, we're gonna close out the show.
And and again, can I answer the?
Because I posted that thing.
I was like if you guys have anyquestions, I'll answer.

Speaker 2 (01:45:54):
Yeah, yeah, I got some if you, if you got a good
one, let's make it under aminute so we could chop it up
okay the this I guess this wouldbe for everybody who's the most
famous person you interactedwith on Instagram?

Speaker 3 (01:46:07):
Oh shit.

Speaker 1 (01:46:08):
Oh I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:46:09):
Most famous person you've ever interacted with on
Instagram.
You go first.

Speaker 3 (01:46:15):
So it doesn't count because it was from when Caleb
collabed, but somebody whocommented on my shit would be
Shakur Shakur.
Okay, yeah, shakur commented onone of my posts once, willie.

Speaker 2 (01:46:24):
Willie went viral.
Shakur, okay yeah, shakurcommented on one of my posts
once Willie.
Willie went viral.
I'm not sure.
Like in general, don't let itbe about boxing.

Speaker 1 (01:46:29):
Oh, there's a lot of, I would say.
I remember I was interactingwith fucking Jocelyn, crazy ass.
You know who Jocelyn is?

Speaker 2 (01:46:40):
I don't know Me neither.

Speaker 1 (01:46:41):
Stevie, the fucking Stevie, the fucking Hispanic
lady that should be on Bad GirlsClub.
Whatever Love and Hip Hop.

Speaker 3 (01:46:52):
I've heard of it, I just never watched it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:54):
So for me it's either Amanda Serrano or Tia Fimo.
I don't know who has morefollowers or who's more famous,
but those are my two AmandaSerrano or Tio.

Speaker 3 (01:47:04):
Alright, the second one, ass or titties?
My answer is yes uh-huh, minetoo yeah say yes, oh yeah dude
why does it?

Speaker 1 (01:47:13):
have to be either or no I'm down.

Speaker 3 (01:47:15):
I'm down with good ones of either ass or titties
and they say yes.

Speaker 2 (01:47:28):
What?
All of the above, c, d, d, allof the above, good call, I like
ass.
What was the third one?

Speaker 1 (01:47:36):
See, I kind of figured.

Speaker 3 (01:47:37):
That would be your answer.
Yeah, wow.

Speaker 2 (01:47:41):
Just for yeah, but I'll shoot him, I'll shoot him,
I'll shoot him that's sodifferent my shit was just
racist.
Your shit's violent violent andracist he didn't say racist, he
said fascist.
He said fascist keywords you'lllike this one.

Speaker 3 (01:48:02):
This comes from my boy.
A good boxing content, pg-13.
He don't cuss.
Why did bud and boots duck?
Or why did bud and boots duck,teo?

Speaker 2 (01:48:19):
so so that ain't even that's actually good, because
that piggybacks into the nextyeah, that's why I saved it for
last.

Speaker 3 (01:48:25):
I figured you'd like that one, but this dude is out
of his mind if he thinks eitherof those are true.

Speaker 2 (01:48:31):
Okay, good setup, but you could agree that you could
make it.

Speaker 1 (01:48:34):
I thought this was about to be like a.
You can make an argument, butit's a stupid argument.

Speaker 3 (01:48:39):
Exactly I thought it was going to be like a joke.

Speaker 2 (01:48:41):
So let me reverse that.
Then.
Why did Boots not take the TOfight?
Forget about Crawford.

Speaker 3 (01:48:45):
Crawford has Canelo on his mind, that's my point why
is Bud ducking TO to fightCanelo?
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:48:51):
I get that, but why?
No one has a straight answeryet?
Because his team is very silentand private, which is good
Boots' team.
But why?

Speaker 3 (01:49:04):
did Boots not take the TO fight?
Well, it did, kind of come out.
They're like it's not aunification fight.
So if it's not a unification,because this whole thing has
become undisputed.

Speaker 2 (01:49:10):
You don't got a belt, and I could agree with that.

Speaker 3 (01:49:12):
Yeah, so the whole argument is yeah, but you take
that TO fight, Even though it'snot undisputed.
It's a big money fight, Hugemoney fight so then pay me the
money.

Speaker 2 (01:49:28):
Don't pay me what you think I would make versus brian
norman, but we never got to themoney yet.

Speaker 3 (01:49:31):
Like we never got to that well, he demanded a certain
amount and he's like, if you'renot, boots did okay, like that
did come out.
He wanted five million and he'slike, if it's, if I'm not
getting five million and I'm notgetting a unification, if I,
I'm gonna go to $154 million.

Speaker 2 (01:49:45):
Okay, so does Tio's stock raise.

Speaker 3 (01:49:49):
But I feel like that was part of Tio's plan, because
Tio's not just going to callBoots out to fight Boots at $147
million.
I'm sorry, he probably knew hewas going up to $154 million.
So they probably lowballed him.
And you're right.
The whole talk is that Bootsducked him.

Speaker 2 (01:50:07):
He's like fuck it I don't fucking hate either, but
like Tio don't even believeBoots ducked him, so like that.

Speaker 3 (01:50:14):
Yeah, but you know what?
Tio is still trying to convinceus?

Speaker 2 (01:50:16):
he said liquor, so it's like I don't know what he
thinks, but the one thing aboutTio I don't believe what he says
, neither I believe what he saysand I don't know what he thinks
.
Did you see what he said?
Yo Tio's fucking up the moneyfor himself, but it's kind of
like he's in that realm now andI hate to say it like that Kanye

(01:50:38):
realm.
Like the stupider and more wildshit.
I say works for me, because didyou see him come out at Turk
recently?

Speaker 1 (01:50:47):
I want to hear about this one.

Speaker 2 (01:50:49):
Turk is money bags, he's the money, turk is the
money.
What did he say?
What did he do now TOcapitalized Dick and said Tater,
he spelled it like Dick, like aRikishi dick, full circle.
This is a full circle podcast.
It's called a callback.
In stand-up comedy we call thata callback.

(01:51:11):
Yeah well, to called back thatdick.
He called him a Dick.

Speaker 1 (01:51:15):
Tater Capital D-I-C-K .
Because some of the shit hesaid he right, yeah, and then he
already knew man.
Come on now.
We seen the body man.
Come on now, we seen theLuminati man.

Speaker 3 (01:51:25):
What did I?

Speaker 1 (01:51:25):
say what did I say?

Speaker 3 (01:51:28):
I said I was like look, he thinks he's slick but
he's not, because after all thatshit went down with Turkey, he
came out with these posts wherehe's homeless and he's holding
up a sign of all of hisaccomplishments.
He's in a liquor store.
He's like where's that liquorat?

Speaker 1 (01:51:52):
He did it again.
He did it, he did it again buthe said liquor this time.

Speaker 3 (01:51:53):
No, that's what you supposed to do.
You supposed to play all thisshit bro this is social media.

Speaker 1 (01:51:56):
What he did this is, but it also the shit wasn't shot
with an iphone.

Speaker 3 (01:51:58):
It was shot with like a professional camera his, our
boy, the guy we met oh damn, Ijust forgot his name.

Speaker 1 (01:52:04):
Uh, why would you?

Speaker 2 (01:52:05):
do all of that if you're not promoting something
yeah, he's right, because then Itold him he's thinking like
because to tweeted out he's likey'all.

Speaker 3 (01:52:14):
Y'all will never see a bad guy like me again and I
told him I was like he thinkshe's slick, but he's telling us
exactly what he's doing.
He's playing the bad guy, yeah,trying to do that bad guy, good
guy narrative.
He already made himself the badguy for saying what he said the
boots fight ain't happening.
I was like there's gonna haveto be a good guy and he's going
back and forth with turkey.
What happened the next day?

Speaker 2 (01:52:37):
devin haney tweeted out turkey, I'll take care of
him yeah there's yourmotherfucking good guy right
there, I just saw it like I'mnot buying this shit.

Speaker 3 (01:52:45):
It's cool.
I'm glad they're actuallyputting effort and energy into
promoting a fight.
This is WWE.

Speaker 2 (01:52:53):
And that's what Turkey wants.
That's what Turkey wants.

Speaker 1 (01:52:56):
I've been saying this shit, just the fight previews
he does.

Speaker 3 (01:53:01):
It's never like highlights of their fights.

Speaker 2 (01:53:03):
It's like them being real actors in a fucking movie
trailer and you are on tosomething because they there it
came out that a catch weight of145 was negotiated for for teo
versus haney.
And why would?
Why would a catch weight benegotiated if teo was willing to
go to 147 and fight boots?

Speaker 3 (01:53:21):
why would it be a catch weight if they're both
coming up from 140 anyway?
What's the plan?

Speaker 2 (01:53:26):
I kind of like the catchweight thing in TO's favor,
because Haney could blow up.
Haney could blow up, yeah, buthe can blow up and do nothing
with it.

Speaker 3 (01:53:35):
He had all that power .

Speaker 1 (01:53:37):
He still don't have no power.

Speaker 2 (01:53:39):
I do, and this is again I'm putting my bias aside.
If TO is not Ryan Garcia forone, he's going to hit Haney
with some shit.
Haney's going to get hit withher.

Speaker 3 (01:53:53):
He's a boxer, Ryan.
He's just not the same power.

Speaker 1 (01:53:56):
This is all bad for Haney.
Haney needed another fightbecause he was looking crazy.
Last fight His head was jerkingoff a jab.
He needed to go back in the lab, he's still got it.

Speaker 2 (01:54:09):
When you put confidence in TO, he's a problem
.

Speaker 3 (01:54:15):
You know what Devin does have that can give TO
problems A jab, he's got areally good jab, he's got really
good movement, he's got goodcardio.

Speaker 2 (01:54:24):
He's got good length.
If he can still outside, butTio's cardio is slept on.
Tio's cardio is slept on.
Oh, I'm not saying he doesn'thave good cardio.

Speaker 3 (01:54:34):
But I'm saying he does great against guys who
don't have good cardio.

Speaker 1 (01:54:38):
True, but what's his name?
He needs to cut off the ringbetter.
Who's?

Speaker 2 (01:54:42):
that fucking guy.
He fought that like everyonegave him shit about Because he
went the distance, but he threwlike 150 punches per round.

Speaker 3 (01:54:48):
Claggett, oh, claggett, yeah, claggett,
claggett can't move, claggettcan't move.

Speaker 2 (01:54:53):
But Tio threw mad punches at that.

Speaker 3 (01:54:55):
Fight too Dude he did a lot of dumb shit there.
Yeah, yeah, there was one partwhere he clag it hurt and then
backed himself up against theroad.
So I'm like bro, what are you?

Speaker 2 (01:55:05):
doing, of course, but I'm telling strictly about
cardio.
Like Tio broke all his records,cardio wise, punch wise in that
fight.

Speaker 3 (01:55:15):
But yeah, but what I'm saying is that Devin can
move rounds one through 12.

Speaker 2 (01:55:20):
Yeah, he could, unless he gets hit with some
shit.
And hit you with a dab, whichis what makes the fight
interesting, because I see waysboth of them win.

Speaker 3 (01:55:27):
to be honest with you , I see TO winning and I see
Devin winning, which makes it avery compelling fight.

Speaker 2 (01:55:34):
And TO's going to get in Devin's head in the lead-up.

Speaker 3 (01:55:37):
Yeah, but you know what, you know what.
You know what Devin stepped onfor Devin can, for dev can talk
some shit, his dad can.
I think devin is a really goodshit talker, I don't care what?

Speaker 2 (01:55:47):
maybe they should let him out of the cage, then I
don't think I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:55:50):
I see I don't understand that narrative comes
from where everybody's like oh,devin, just lets bill talk for
him.

Speaker 2 (01:55:55):
I'm like bro devin talks a lot of shit so we talked
about this last episode, though, like then, maybe, maybe it's
time for his dad to step aside.

Speaker 3 (01:56:04):
Yeah, I mean, I don't think anybody would say that
Bill should shut the fuck up alittle bit.
But I'm just saying like Devin.
It's not like Danny Garcia,angel Garcia, where Danny
wouldn't say much and Angelwould Like.
Devin talks shit, dude, andhe's funny Like even in the Ryan
Garcia press conference.
He's like bro.
I don't know if Ryan's going tomake it to the fight.

Speaker 2 (01:56:25):
He's like bro, I don't know if ryan's gonna make
it to the fight.
No, you're, you're right, butbut the attention is stolen.
Now it's like it's stolen fromhis pops and I, and I've been
saying that like it's time forwhen you're that age, it's time
for your dad to step aside.
But yo, yeah, um, all right,we've.
We've said enough we hit, wehit everything we we listed.
Uh, damn it everything.
Yeah, we're going too deep.
We're going Rikishi deep.

(01:56:47):
I'm going to try and cut this,you coming back next week.

Speaker 3 (01:56:52):
Yeah, I can come back next week.

Speaker 2 (01:56:54):
Whenever you want, you're always welcome.
You're a new regular to theshow.
We'll try and press someinterviews going forward.

Speaker 3 (01:57:02):
I'll hop off for your interviews, though, because
then, when it's three people andtwo of them are not looking,
it's weird.

Speaker 2 (01:57:09):
If you want, though, I don't care.
This is just a hobby, bro?

Speaker 3 (01:57:13):
It's not like that.
Just based off of experience,the less people for interviews,
the better.

Speaker 2 (01:57:18):
Which is true.
What a noble man, you know.
God bless, god bless this guy.
Are you guys going to watch thefight?
What a noble man, god bless.
God bless this guy, nice salute.

Speaker 3 (01:57:26):
Are you guys going to watch the fight together?
The Keyshawn fight?
Yeah, if Willie's around?

Speaker 1 (01:57:32):
Is it Friday, saturday?
I might?
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:57:36):
I was going to say we could do a live watch party if
you want.

Speaker 2 (01:57:39):
The only problem I have with that is and we've
talked about that to do it islike the copyrights, copyright.

Speaker 3 (01:57:45):
yeah, they copyright fucking everything we don't know
, but like, do you ever see howlike rogan does?
It and I know we're not roganor even brendan shaw, it's we're
better than brendan the camera.
Yeah, dude, but like all, the,all the videos of them watching
the fight, and then they likeread.

(01:58:05):
Yeah, do it right if you read.

Speaker 2 (01:58:07):
Like live comments from people yeah, we could, we
could do something like that,maybe, maybe, so I might be, I
could get some pros show thefight yeah, yeah and I do have a
good setup where I got likethree tvs.

Speaker 1 (01:58:19):
You know, a fight might show in the mirror, in the
mirror or something like that'sa tv.

Speaker 2 (01:58:23):
If you could see that that's a tv too, uh, but
whatever, we can figure that out.
Yeah, I'm down to do that too.
It's just we.
If it's a big fight, I getrowdy.
But I do want to say one thingin closing.
I found a spot, a good spot,and I'm willing to put the money
up for it, because I don't care, I'm, she's gonna divorce me
anyway, just don't ask me aboutthat shit too.

Speaker 1 (01:58:42):
Yeah, I was throwing a fight party.

Speaker 2 (01:58:44):
I'm going to throw a real fight party, a legit one.
I found a good spot.
It's out here in New York.
Will you be willing to comewhen I'm thinking, and if you
give me the word, I'll put thepieces in place.
I'm thinking for Canelo vsCrawford.
I'm thinking for Canelo versusCrawford.

Speaker 3 (01:59:07):
See, I have to figure out when that date is.

Speaker 2 (01:59:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:59:10):
Because in September my best friend from the Navy,
the one that coached football atVirginia Tech.
He's now like a manager forlike a country music singer that
was like a finalist on theVoice and shit.

Speaker 1 (01:59:23):
Oh, wow.

Speaker 2 (01:59:27):
The same Texas.
Oh wow Jesus, he's going toNashville to eat some ass.
Well he lives in.
Nashville.
Oh, so he's eating ass.

Speaker 3 (01:59:36):
But in September him and the guy he works for are
coming to Idaho for a musicfestival.
He wants me to go to that.

Speaker 2 (01:59:41):
I ain't seen dudes since 20 years.
I'll be there, we'll cross thatbridge when it gets there, but
I I the spar in might bethrowing like a legit, like at a
bar and I'll be in school thentoo, because then fall semester
opens up.

Speaker 3 (01:59:54):
But I should, if, if I can go like if, like all lanes
open up, I'll go.
For sure that'd be sick yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:00:03):
So I and I plan on doing that.
I'm gonna I'm gonna network alittle more and and that goes
out to anybody that made it thisfar too I'm gonna raffle off
memorabilia.
I have a shitload it's realmemorabilia that I don't need um
, try to get.

Speaker 3 (02:00:16):
I'll try to get.

Speaker 2 (02:00:16):
Thanks for playing and adams to throw some shit in
yeah, yeah, that'd be awesomeand and we'll cross that bridge
when it comes.
We have, but it has to be amajor fight if I do it.

Speaker 3 (02:00:25):
Yeah, yeah, you can't do that shit.
No.

Speaker 2 (02:00:28):
It's not to make money either, it's just to have
boxing heads around.
It's fun, bro, drinking,watching, boxing and fucking.
I invite the hood rats, yes yes, I can't go JK.
Yeah, I mean, all my friends arerats too, that's gonna be very

(02:00:49):
weird we have a lot of rednecks.
We have a lot of rednecks.
That being said, thank you forlistening.
If you made it this far, I havea lot to chop up.
Punchlines underscore boxing ishere with us whenever he feels
he wants to be here with us.
Willie and Puma here likesubscribe.
This is the second time we wentlive.
It will get better with time.

Speaker 1 (02:01:08):
Just give us some time.
I appreciate y'all man.

Speaker 2 (02:01:10):
Whoever's watching man.
Yeah, just like our regularpodcast man.
We're going live every time now, so please just bear with us.
We just got another YouTubefollower.
Maybe we should stay on.
We got four people watching now, hey what's up, man?
What's up, brother?
Alright, they just went on.

Speaker 1 (02:01:28):
all out of that shit, get the fuck out of here the
motherfuckers just left afterthat shit Punchlines peace.

Speaker 2 (02:01:33):
Thanks for coming by.

Speaker 1 (02:01:35):
See you next week.

Speaker 3 (02:01:36):
Peace Later guys.

Speaker 1 (02:01:40):
This ain't TC.

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