From Philly Swag to Piano Entrances: Inside Episode 60

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Celebrating our milestone 60th episode with a knockout recap of two weeks' worth of boxing action, including Mikaela Mayer's dominance over Sandy Ryan and previewing the upcoming Ennis vs Stanionis unification fight.

• Mikaela Mayer executed perfect adjustments against Sandy Ryan, leaving nothing to question in their rematch
• Bruce "Shu Shu" Carrington deserves his title shot as the #1 contender in multiple rankings but can't get belt holders to fight him
• Richard Torrez defeated Guido Vianello in an exciting heavyweight clash, showing great pressure despite size disadvantage
• Abdullah Mason celebrated his 21st birthday with another impressive stoppage victory, continuing to prove he's boxing's top prospect
• Tevin Farmer displayed incredible heart against William Zepeda despite coming up short on the scorecards
• Jaron "Boots" Ennis faces his toughest test against Eimantas Stanionis in a welterweight unification bout that could silence critics

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's time for the main event.
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
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Speaker 2 (00:53):
Well, you shouldn't be drinking but ice.
Hey, welcome to episode 60.
60 damn episodes, willie, we're40 away from 100 yo 40 away
from 100.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
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Yo listen, we need some subs.
Man, appreciate y'all,appreciate all the people that
suck up Same broken record.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
every week we record, you know, but today actually,
let's get into the boxing thingof things.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
We of things.
We just interviewed TrevorMcCombie.
That was cool.
Shout out to Trevor man, he's acool ass.
Dude man, mega, to the death ofus.
We're going to post that.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Oh God, mega, yeah, mega, don't say it Nah, but yeah
he's a cool ass dude, verygrounded guy, strong in his
beliefs, and says he's comingback.
So check out that interview.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
He is so calm.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, very calm guy.
Just a calm cool guy Very nicebiceps too, gives a little bicep
peep.
That was for your entertainment.
For real, though, cool-ass dude.
I'm so like it's crazy.
Episode 60, man, if you hadtold me like episode 20, I'd be
interviewing pro boxers.
I've episode 20, I'd beinterviewing pro boxers, like

(02:06):
I've peaked.
I don't even care aboutanything.
I peaked awesome, awesome shit.
But yeah, check that out.
I'll post that as well.
That'll be on, uh, all ourplatforms and I'll chop some
shit up.
But we have a huge show.
We have two weeks of action.
We missed last week because Ilost my voice, um, so I couldn't
record without wait, that was,that was no that was no, that
was three weeks ago.
I'm all all fucked up.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
That was last week.
Yeah, last week Willie was alittle under the weather.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Willie was sick.
Something's going around, man.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Everyone's getting sick.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Gotta stop eating ass .
Something's going around.
I need to start eating Ass.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, episode 60.
Eat ass Ass a day.
Eat it away, eat it away.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Eat ass a day.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
I gotta drink some water.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, my kidneys are hurting.
Well, I gotta drink some waterBecause several days from now no
, six days from now I'm going toAtlantic City.
Baby, we're gonna preview thatfight.
Lil Jerron, ennis, stan Jonas.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
We gotta speak on.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
We're a week removed now but we gotta speak on A lil'
.
Mikayela Meyer did her thing.
Shout out to Michaela Did herthing.
Michaela Meyer versus SandyRyan Left crying.
Bruce Carrington was also onthat card.
Bruce Carrington last night onthe card was looking quite
dapper in a suit on the mic.
He's everywhere he's going tobe.
He's going to go somewhere withthat.

(03:22):
He's got a little retirementplan already, if they ever give
him that belt shot.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
He's well-spoken, he's doing, he's everywhere, he
shows up and supports everybody,everybody that he knows.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
We had a little Well, yesterday, saturday, sunday,
today, yesterday we had a wholefight extravaganza Richard
Torres versus Guido Vianello.
That was a cool heavyweightmatchup.
I lost my parlay on that, but Iwill speak on a sparlay that I
did win.
I'm sorry, not parlay sparlay.
Abdullah Mason did his thing asusual.

(03:58):
Yeah, that's pretty much itright.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
I thought I had more.
You did have more.
We have, uh what do you?
Got damn well trevor.
Yeah, no, not trevor, um, it'snot no, telvin, telvin, uh,
zapata farmer and oh, oh, tevinfarmer and zap yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
yeah, we do have that too.
That was another great fight.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Who else is that?
That's it.
No, we did Nick Ball, right,nick Ball.
We did that last episode, right.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
We're all fucked up.
We'll get going, though We'llget going.
Once this energy drink kicks in, I'm going to be yapping your
ears off All into Michaela Meyer, because we're a little removed
.
A little removed.
Michaela Meyer versus SandyRyan 2 in Las Vegas, baby, and
what a fight it was.
It was an amazing fight.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
What a fight.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
It wasn't as good as the first fight, though, because
Michaela Meyer pitched agoddamn shutout.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yeah, yeah.
And it's crazy she dideverything that we said she
needed to do.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
For real.
So we said in the buildup thatthis is going to be a close
fight and it's going to be onwhoever could make the
adjustments, and it's going tobe hard.
Well, one fighter did makeadjustments and one other
fighter made adjustments, butthe wrong adjustments, the wrong
adjustments.
So they both made adjustments.
Yeah, mikayla Meyer just didnot move around as much, nope,
but moved around when she neededto and she was going both ways

(05:24):
for us.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
She was, she was moving both left and right and
moving away from the right hand.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
But the one thing I was like yo this is crazy.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
We said all that shit .
Yo you had to move the right.
Yo she wasn't moving the rightway.
The first fight.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Nah, the fight was great for her man she was on the
front foot.
She left nothing.
She left no question on thetable better box she won almost
every round.
I think two, maybe two or threerounds.
You could have gave the otherway, just because, uh, more
times than not, she stayed inthe pocket and banged and we

(05:59):
said, like, like, we said thatsandy ryan's punches may have
been affecting michaela.
Like you know what I mean.
This time michaela's punchesmay have been affecting Michaela
.
Like you know what I mean, thistime Michaela's punches were
affecting Sandy and she stoppedher in her tracks.
It was great to see.
And one thing we often overlookwith Michaela that I thought
about in this fight and we nevertalk about it she got a chin
man.
Oh yeah, she has a chin.

(06:19):
That's back-to-back fights withSandy Ryan, who could crack Bum
Gardner.
Arguably that was another closefight, but she ate her punches.
She was still standing therefor her.
She's got a chin man and herdefense is decent, but with that
chin she's going to be toughout for anybody man.
They're saying now she wantsNatasha Jones, lauren Price she

(06:41):
already beat Natasha Jones.
She wants Lauren Price now tounify.
That'll be Sandy Ryan, natashaJones and then Lauren Price.
She's just cleaning out theEuropeans, bro.
She's just cleaning them out.
She might have to go over there, cross the pond for that, and
you know what I'm rooting forher.
Let's bring those belts back toAmerica.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Unify, get undisputed .
Yeah, let's go, she's notplaying, nah.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
She's not playing Olympian too, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, she's friends with Clarissa, right?
So yeah, they were talkingabout fighting too.
Yeah, they got to meet at acatchweight, though.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah, catchweight.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Well in the middle.
But I'm thinking she's justfocused on getting that
undisputed.
That I'm getting thatundisputed, that'd be dope for
her.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
And then if she wants to go, and if Clarissa wants to
come down, hey, that's a goodfight too.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Two pure boxers.
I don't like how Sandy foughtthis fight man.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Nah, she fought, she did smarter last fight.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
She fought, moving around, she was moving around,
she was boxing one, two andnothing crazy.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
I think, though, this time, like, like, like, mikayla
Ryan's punches stopped her inher tracks, and she was like oh
shit, oh shit I don't want toget hit with that Because she
was a little more timid.
Yeah, a little more timid, andhey it's good to see, I think,
that the antics in New York gaveher some fire yeah, maybe some
fire, but I think that was thatput a bad taste in my mouth and
I'm glad that's all.

(08:05):
That was dumb to me.
Okay, you got paint thrown onyou like you didn't get punched
in the head, you didn't.
Okay, someone threw paint onyou, oh my goodness.
Meanwhile, all over new yorkthat day, people like the
protesters and stuff werethrowing paint on people and you
just happened to be in the mixand then she posted like a half
nude selfie, which was coolabout the paint and I'm like

(08:25):
like, come on.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Which was cool.
It's crazy, seriously Okay.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
You got paint thrown on you Like you make millions,
just buy some new clothes.
You didn't Very odd what.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Maybe I'm trying to blame her.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah, that was odd too, so I don't know.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
But hey, whatever works, it's over there was like
a car accident too, or some shit.
Oh, that's the wrong thing.
I'm thinking about somethingelse.
Yeah, no, Whatever hey it iswhat it is.
New York is wild.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah, but we're past that.
There was no excuses.
Now I like Sandy Ryan too.
I'm not just hating on her.
Sandy Ryan's still a problemfor anybody.
She'll be back.
But Mikayla Ryan bringing thebelts back to the US I'm sorry,
mikayla Meyer, not Mikayla Ryanbringing the belts back to the
US.
Man, that's what we want to see.

(09:12):
And again, man, there'ssomething to be said about that
chin.
She's now built quite theresume and her, she's still
standing.
You know that song, I'm stillstanding standing that song.
I'm still staying, mckayla stillstaying in the way, what are
you watching sing?

Speaker 1 (09:29):
you know that song.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
I'm still standing that's from sing, is it?

Speaker 1 (09:31):
I don't know if I don't know if there's like a
real version, but the movie singis, I heard that from like in
car rides with my dad, I'm stillstaying all right.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeahyeah, I didn't know whose song
that was until the movie.
Sing, okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Well, yeah, so Mikael is still staying, but you don't
have kids, so We'll stopsinging, you don't Me?

Speaker 1 (09:52):
No, yeah.
So I was like how would youeven know that song?
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Oh, okay, white dads his age,who sings that billy?

Speaker 2 (10:10):
joe.
No, uh, I forget.
I don't know who actually.
Yeah, yeah, I don't care either.
I'm crying.
Let's see, I'm gonna google itreal quick.
I'm still staying.
Who sings that?

Speaker 1 (10:16):
I definitely I don't know, but I just know, oh elton
john?

Speaker 2 (10:19):
no huh, yeah, elton john, nice, close, close, kind
of like bill Billy Joel, sort ofpiano guy.
Anyway, enough about that.
Again, props to Mikayla, shedid her thing.
Vegas looked fire.
They were out there.
We weren't, unfortunately, butyeah, that's good to see.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Was anybody else cool from that card?

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, bruce Shushu was on the card, tiger Johnson
was on the card.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Oh, yeah, they all got stoppages.
That was fire.
Yeah, we won, I won.
Yeah, a little sparlay, sparlay, sparlay.
We posted out one.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
And I want to say something.
Y'all are so quick when I lose,to DM me.
When I hit, nobody DMs me.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Nobody DMs me Nobody.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Bruce Carrington KOTKO, brian Norman KOTKO and
Michaela.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Meyer, moneyline.
Oh yeah, my boy Brian wentcrazy.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yes, yeah, vicious that was plus 100 too, so that
wasn't supposed to happen.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yeah, great little bet, that's my guy right there.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
And then we got a touch on the Bruce Carrington
stuff too versus Enrique Viveshe was on that card, our guy
Bruce.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
And that same night, william Zepeda and him.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
They had a fucking ball again.
We got to talk about that,farmer went crazy.
Yeah, we got to.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
I'm surprised he even last.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
You want to talk about that now?
We'll get into that.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
I'm going to be moving along, if you want.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Well, let's just try and stay in a little order here.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
You got something about Shushu.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Shushu.
Yeah, shushu versus EnriqueVivas.
It hit me this fight.
It only lasted three rounds,but if you were listening to Tim
Bradley in the first and eventhe second round, you would have
thought Shushu was doomed.
I don't know what that guy'sdeal is.
I usually like him, but he'sgot something against New York

(12:04):
fighters I think.
I think he forgot who Shushuwas.
He must have just forgot whoShushu was the first round.
He's like oh, I don't like whatI see.
I don't like what I see.
I'm like, bro, it's the firstround.
He's like I don't like what Isee.
Shushu's doing this.
I don't like it.
It's not looking good.
Enrique showing pressure.
Second round Shushu knocksEnrique down.

(12:26):
Did you forget?
Shushu has pop and power.
It was very weird to me.
And then third round TimBradley.
Like he like once Shushustopped him and knocked him down
again, tim Bradley like got hitwith that men in black pen and
totally forgot Shushu is great,he's gonna be great, and I know
it's hard to sit up there andjust chat.

(12:46):
it's hard to sit up here andchat, so I can only imagine, but
I was like something with newyork fighters, because he cooks
jahai all the time yo, it'scrazy, because yesterday,
yesterday jahai fought.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yesterday yesterday he, he, he just went blank for a
couple of rounds and shit, likeI'm like oh bro, you, is you
like you?

Speaker 2 (13:03):
commentating.
At least he kept it a littlenicer because he used to cook
Shahab bad, but still I noticedthat though, but he sees the
talent, bro.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
He sees the talent, but.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Shushu is number one in all the rankings.
Right, he's the number onecontender for a belt in all the
rankings and he's over therecooking him like he's a nobody
in the first round.
I'm going gonna find a clip, ifI could, because it was.
I'm like what the hell, dude.
And then boom, third round,knockout, and his whole tone
change.
He is destined for greatness,he is, he is that.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
I'm like what the fuck man, he weren't those
friends like he.
He's one of those like fakefriends.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
I never sat there on the ring side and called the
fight, so I'm sure it's's hard.
I like Tim Bradley.
He usually makes good pointsand stuff too.
You're not going to agree withthat.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
He's like a 50 Cent.
50 Cent would be like be afriend and then, once you start
fucking up, we would unfriendyou too.
Like 50 Cent and Floyd.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
This one was like, I think, because it was so quick,
he's like I don't like what Isee Shushu's doing this.
He's doing that wrong.
Second round knockdown.
Okay, third round gets him outof there.
His whole tone changed.
Maybe he saw it different now,but I noticed a trend here with
New York fighters.
Man, he don't like New Yorkfighters.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
He probably just don't like being in New York.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
He was in Vegas man, he was in Vegas man, he was in
Vegas.
But it was weird.
But hey, bruce made it veryclear, shushu made it very clear
after that fight who he wantsnext.
And it's anybody with a belt,Anybody.
He's the can man, Anybody canget it.
Yeah, Uh, he made that veryclear.
He he said a name that we'vebeen saying that we would like

(14:43):
to see, but that fight's alittle harder to make than than
Nick ball man.
He wants Nick ball and he saidit respectfully yeah.
Yeah, he said it respectfully,which was cool, but nobody's
given him a shot he they got tomake him a mandatory make him a
mandatory, or you lose that beltand that.
And that's what happens whenyou're the number one contender.
And hey, man, I hope he getsthat belt because he's getting,

(15:05):
he's older, shushu's older, sohe's pushing 30 now.
He's going to gain weight soon.
It's going to happen.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
He pushes 30.
What do you think You're goingto gain weight?

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Because, you know, after 25, bro, when you hit that
grown man, it's tough to keepthat up, like you know.
Yeah, my fucking body hurt,right now, so I hope they give
him his shot.
Man, get my man a belt.
He wants all the belts, I justwant him to get his shot.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah, he need a shot, a title shot, yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
When you're the number one contender.
Who, bro, he's number one forright now?
Definitely, I think, wbc.
Who's that?
What's his Hold on Latino dude?
Oh, he called out.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
He definitely called out Nick Ball though School boy.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Oh yeah, that's another one, that's another.
That's a good fight.
That's a good fight, that's abeautiful fight.
All of them are when the bestfight the best.
They're all great fights, butyeah, man.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
It's.
But yeah, man, it's time dude,and he wants it.
He's like last night when hewas on the mic he was talking
about it.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Our favorite fight for him would be Nick.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Ball, nick Ball.
Yeah, that's my favorite fight.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah, me too, Either in England or here.
He says he's willing to go toEngland.
He wants all that smoke man.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
IBF Angelo Leo, Rafael Espinosa WBO, rafael
espinoza wbo.
They're all great fights, dude.
Every one of these fights isgreat.
And then you know they're noteven trying to unify.
Like there's no nick ballversus angelo leo talks there's
no stiffen fulton versus nickball talks.
Like that's weird let's, yeah,so give, give a contender a shot
.
You're all holding on to thesebelts.
It's now apparent that they'reholding the belts hostage.

(16:38):
Let's get shushu his shot.
You're not fighting each other.
He's the number one contender.
He's top five in all therankings.
It's time.
It's the Shoo Shoo Show baby.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Why is that division like that?

Speaker 2 (16:50):
I don't know man, there's probably some promotion
issues going on too, but it'stime bro.
It's time.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
That'd be crazy.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
The time is now.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
All the bell holders are in a different promotion.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
I think they are.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
I promotions, I think they are, I think it's close.
Yeah, that'd be crazy, but uh,it don't matter.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Like, yeah, nobody fighting, they gotta make it
unified the sanctioning bodiesneed to make mandatories, like
now for that.
And we're being biased as we'rebig shushu fans, but it's time,
like he's.
He's calling him out.
He says I'm right here.
How many people I gotta know Igot.
He stopped the dude.
That's never been stopped.
Like it's time, it's time baby.
But yeah, that's it.
He keeps winning and grinningand he's great man.

(17:29):
He's very receptive to the fans.
We're always chopping it up.
Shushu's great man and all heneeds is a damn belt opportunity
.
And yeah, let's get into hisfriend real quick.
And then we'll backtrack toTevin Farmer Tiger.
Oh yeah, tiger did his thingtoo.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
That's true.
Tiger got a knockout.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Quick knockout.
We didn't add him.
We should have, I was.
We saw him on MSG.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
He be like smoking our sparlets.
We always put him for a TKOknockout.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
We got faith in you, Tiger.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
We be like damn, I don't know.
I don't know.
He went up in weight though,yeah, so that's a good, maybe
he's getting more power.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Yeah, he's growing too.
They're all growing like.
But yeah, he's talking.
He's like a good top rank has agood slew, though I love like
the top rank undercards.
They got a good little slewgoing on and some good names,
characters and stuff likeshushu's, one of shushu's good
friends, uh, little richardtorres, oh, you saw that
yesterday oh, that was yesterday, yeah, torres versus guido.
Yeah, yeah, um, did you see hisentrance?

(18:31):
Nah, I missed it.
Entrance was fire, bro, it wasyou.
You thought, like it, like.
So guido came out to some weird, like I guess, italian music
wait, so wait.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
I want to know where he came out to, because so he
He'd be hanging around with ChooChoo he's himself.
He came out with those littleboots on and shit he's himself,
bro, he's being himself.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
He came out right.
You hear a piano playing andyou're like what the fuck?
What is that?
What is that?
Then they zoom in and he had alive pianist.
I don't know if I said thatright.
I can't say it without saying,like penis, he had a live
pianist right and she was inthere and it was like yo, it was
gangster.
Like you remember when tysoncame out with chains?

(19:15):
Yeah, it had that vibe likethis dude's just walking out to
like a piano vibe, like it wascrazy.
Even tim bradley was like yo,that go hard, what the hell it
was cool.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Even Tim Bradley was like yo that go hard.
What the hell it was cool man.
That was cool as shit.
I didn't see that shit, Ididn't see it.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
And yo.
This fight lived up to it andyou know, richard Torres learned
from this man.
He learned from this fight.
Guido probably learned from ittoo.
Unfortunately, guido took the LScorecards were a little wide
in my he definitely won a lot ofrounds.
The middle rounds?

Speaker 1 (19:41):
definitely First two maybe not, he was using his
length, he was just punchingthem, dabbing them One-twos.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Torres is like tiny but mighty man.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah, he kept on that overhand, yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
It was landing.
He needs to watch this film,though.
He needs to watch the film ofthis fight and see what he was
doing wrong and he's correct hegot tired and you can tell that
he got, he got tired, but yo, hedidn't get as tired as like
guido.
Yeah, he he 10 rounds.
Throwing like that as aheavyweight dude is great, like
he do not stop, but he startedleading with his head.
Yeah, that was when he did gettired.

(20:14):
He was, and guido caught on andwas clipping that uppercut.
So, and a more seasonedheavyweight with some more power
.
It's gonna be a problem fortorres.
He knows that, though He'lllook at the video of this, see
the mistakes he's made.
This was a great step-up fightfor him and I like Guido too,
man Guido you know he is who heis.

(20:34):
It was a good fight though.
It was an exciting fightBecause at times you're like, oh
man and listen, I bet Torresand my spar life for this one
and he didn't get the knockout.
But at times you were likethere's no way Guido could last.
And then the middle rounds comeand he's half-stepped back with
that uppercut when he lead withthe head and boom caught him.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
He was looking drunk a couple of times but, he was
still in that fight yeah, yeah,he was looking drunk, but he was
a constant pressure though.
That's why, and like the typeof pressure, constant pressure.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Torres, like has these sneaky chin down in your
chest, those sneaky overhands?
Yeah, and he was clipping Guidowith that.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
He didn't have no time to like breathe really yeah
, no breaks.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Guido's always on the back foot.
You know, guido used to be likea really good tennis player,
apparently, or so you wouldthink he'd be a little better on
his feet, because tennis thatside to side like people that
play tennis have the best feetin the world.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
he's big yeah, he's big to be playing tennis, boy.
You saw the you saw the sizedifference too, you're like yeah
, and we seen him real like.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
We seen Torres real like this dude's massive, he's
big, he's shorter, but he's likeimagine when he was making him
look small.
He looked very small, yeah, butthat's that next level of
heavyweights, man.
And props to Torres, you knowhe did get the win and, more
importantly, in my opinion,because this fight wasn't like
for a contender, I don't think,or anything like that, it was

(22:04):
just one of those greatheavyweight matchups.
That entrance was awesome, bro.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Go look it up I gotta look it up.
Yeah, it was awesome.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
They just zoom in like oh, we have a surprise for
you, like what.
And they zoom in the back andthere's a lady playing piano.
And then it was he just walkedout to like a piano playing.
It was a little intimidating,like different.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
This is my piano.
You don't know that song.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
No, I don't know that song.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Yeah, 2k Hoops.
What year?
College Hoops?
It was like back in the day, Idon't know what year that was,
man.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yeah, I don't know 2K .
Hoops man.
But yeah, man, this is my piano.
Heavyweight division is funbecause it's so wide open.
Bro, it is the heavyweightdivision.
It's almost like any givenSunday in the NFL, any given
Saturday, when the heavyweightsfight.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
It's slow for Americans and that shit.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Yeah, torres is apparently.
Oh, and our guy Coming up, he'sgoing with TKO who, tgk the
giant killer?
Oh he is.
Yeah, wow, he's apparently.
I don't know if I was supposedto say that, but I think it's
out.
Now he's got one more fightcoming up in.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Oh, you didn't say no name this weekend.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah, and then apparently he's gonna go do that
, so that should be fun.
But he's good too.
He's an American, yeah,technically.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
So he's an American.
We got the smaller heavyweights, yeah, so we got the smaller
size.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
There's no like, because they all play football,
bro.
All the big ass, remember atNative Boxing Coach Music.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
I remember he brought in this he was looking for like
a heavyweight.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
And he brought in this giant dude, this giant
black dude Like he's like yeah,I'm training him to be Dude was
His head was Like touching theceiling.
Yeah, I think he like Jumpedhim too, too soon, though he was
putting him through like A proworkout.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
And the dude quit.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
And that's the problem.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Like.
But that guy, like with theright training, I was like yo,
that guy.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
Yeah, man, we need to find one.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, I know.
It's wide open Not me, thoughI'm the heavyweight.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
I'm talking about.
We got to find one.
Yeah, train one.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, it's tough, though, because they don't, when
you could just be a lineman infootball and not have to put
that work in.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Yeah, it's like oh, you got to really want to fight.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Boxing work.
And speaking of boxing work, uh, what's that podcast you listen
to?
Which one was, I care?
Is a camera on in them?
Oh it is what it is yeah, didyou see what he said?
Recently, about which one hesaid a lot of shit, bro, about
apparently him and bernardhopkins were supposed to have a
fight at some point yeah, hewanted to fight bernard.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
He was really gonna fight bernard.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Uh, some and he was like he's saying I know I could
put the.
I don't know exactly, I don'twant to quote it wrong yeah I
don't know, flats posted it.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
He's like, he's like he said I know he's like I
forgot what he said.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
I was watching it yeah, he said basically like I'm
not saying I'm a better boxer,but I will put the work in.
I know how I work out, I'llwork out like a boxer and it
won't be like it wouldn't belike a shutout, basically it
wouldn't be, I wouldn't lookthat bad.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Something happened back in the day that they was
like.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Bro Bernard Hopkins he was wild, he was wild.
We know the tears in boxing.
Right, he was wild.
Yeah, he sounded a little bitlike Jake Paul there man.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
He sounded a little like Jake Paul there, but he's
confident.
He's just a confident nigga bro.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah, that's good.
I'm not hating on the guy, butlike, come on man.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Come on, he's shacked and a fool.
He's shacked and a fool, he'swild with Bernard.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Bernard was in the jail and in the prime.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
It was.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Bernard's prime Like come on man.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
He was wilding out in jail.
Bernard's seen all types offighters, bro, all right.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
So another fighter last night on that card was
Abdullah Mason, and he is on hisway.
Man, it was his 21st birthday,21st birthday Got a haircut, got
the waves.
He learned in this fight too.
He took a little step up First10-rounder, first 10-rounder for
him it didn't go 10 rounds, ofcourse, he took a little step up

(26:05):
first 10 rounder, first 10rounder.
For him it didn't go 10 rounds,of course, but the tough, tough
Mexican, or Nila, or Nila Idon't know if I'm saying his
last name right, but I didn'tknow about this guy.
But you know, obviously, as thefight's going on I'm hearing it
and watching Yo veteran got hitwith a shot, took a knee,
gained some time, like took theknockdown, took a knee, gained
some time, and that's some stuffthat you want to see.
Coming up for Abdullah, like,wow, this guy's a little and I

(26:26):
saw a little.
I don't want to say problemwith Abdullah, listen, he got
the stoppage and crushed him.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
I see one problem.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
What'd you got?

Speaker 1 (26:35):
His fit was not that.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Oh the fit, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true, those
yellow sneakers, those, yellowboots.
I didn't like them, man, theywere weird yeah, I didn't like
the fit this time man, butforget about the fit.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
It was the fit man.
There's too much yellow going.
The yellow was off with theboots.
That's the only thing I hadwith what his problem was with
me.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
So he shook his hand a little bit.
In this one it looks like alittle injury may have, you
think so he hit it.
Well, but he did.
Yeah, he shook his head alittle bit Like he tweaked
something, and his hands were alittle lower than I like, so he
and we've seen him.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
His corner was yelling that shit out.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yeah, we've seen him get knocked down before now in a
lesser fight by that guy withthe yeah, it's.
Listen, that's something couldbe fixed now as you move.
He's still great, and I'm not.
He's the number one he's a bluechip prospect, for sure, and
he's definitely the bestprospect out there right now.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
But in my opinion, but, but how you come out with
the purple rain.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Oh, that was awesome.
Yeah, that was great.
And then.
So that's another positiveabout him, though he's at the
yellow he comes out.
He must listen to Prince.
Like the kids these days don'tknow who Prince is.
And then he fucking.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
You see his background bro.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
He speaks like a 30-year-old man, bro, like he's
mature.
He says all the right things.
I'm like, bro, this guy.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Those are some real Muslims.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
That's what.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
I'm trying to say they practice.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
They read that's good , though he's very disciplined.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Yeah, very disciplined, and that's where
you got to be.
That's a great family.
I love to see it.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yeah, it's awesome, and that's another one You'll
watch film.
That's one bad thing, though,about being strict with religion
like that.
It was his 21st birthday.
Man Couldn't booze no boozing.
Did you hear the crowd?
Did you hear the crowd?
They were singing happybirthday while he was fighting.
That shit was funny.
I'm like what the fuck?

(28:32):
The announcers didn't evenbring it up and then they sung
happy birthday again at the end.
They sung happy birthday at theend.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
You say I watched the highlights.
Hey, willie, you watched thatfight?

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I watched the highlights.
You watch that fight?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I watch thehighlights.
But amen props to him.
I saw our boy Jahai fightthough.
Oh yeah, Jahai Tucker had afight.
Another tough, tough guy.
That dude was big man.
Yeah, Jahai.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
I'm like yo, that's a feat.
I'd be mad as hell if Jahaimoved up so much weight.
Yeah, 160.
Them big dudes, bro, big dudesbro.
He be fighting them.
He be fighting them for noreason.
Brawling, Brawling.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
For no reason.
Jihad Tucker just brawls thesegrown ass men.
Troy Williamson.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Like I said, I keep on repeating this shit Jihad,
you could beat everybody withjust a jab.
Your jab is so nice and atdifferent angles and all types
of shit, he don't even need tofight them like that, but he
like to show off his bag.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
I think he gets mad, bro.
He gets very emotionally mad.
He's a dog, bro.
He wants that get back.
He wants that get back.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
He begin and you saw how he almost.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
He dropped him three times.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
You saw how he almost put him out, though.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yeah.
Oh man, mad hooks, and that'sanother one, when Tim was wild
and he was but he was likesaying like real shit, this time
about, about jahai, it wasn't,it wasn't like he usually cooks
him, but he usually does cookhim bad.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
He really cooked him, but he was like cooking like yo
he he know that he can't saytoo much because the skill is
there, but he just be wantinghim to do, do better, he just
wants him to, he wants him to begreat, you know, and I guess so
.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
and listen, he, he, I kind of look, obviously jahai
tucker friend, and you knowwe're going to, we got him and
his pops, we, we ride with themtill whatever, no matter what
happens.
But there is something that hesaid Tim Bradley, if I'm keeping
it real which we are likethat's good.
And we don't know what's goingon in the camp, right, we don't
know who he's in.
I saw he's with Jay Prince.
He was training in Texas, sohe's, um, it is good to bring in

(30:22):
another coach, you know, yeah,bring in that next level.
And here's, here's why, becauseas you get older, as a kid like
me, you everybody, your dad,you know, you looked up to him,
blah, blah, blah.
But now, as you become a man,you just stop listening and you
want to do your, you know I mean.
So, when you have a, not astranger, but someone else, come
in yeah you're not going totell them to shut the hell.
You know what I mean.
You're going to just listen.

(30:43):
More that in that regard.
So it would be good.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Tim bradley was right about that but I see they, they
, they fixed, they, they fixinga little, uh, connect a
connection better a little bit.
Connection is a little betternow because I I heard music in
the corner telling him some, andthen he would do it like it was
, like he was listening yeah,yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
I feel like he was really listening to the point of
more and um he was in thisfight, yeah he just got to stay
off the ropes.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
He I know he, he, he put on a show.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
He likes that rope he put.
He likes that on the show.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah he put on a show , but when the next level comes,
yeah, yeah, you gotta, yeah, hecan't stay different, but yo he
, he's fucking exciting man.
He's entertaining.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
The crowd is always going.
He don't get a lot of knockoutsand the crowd is still going
wild every time His combinationPete's in.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Oh man, yeah, he's so fucking good bro, but he's had
a heavy 160,.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
They crack 160, they crack Going forward man.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
I still wish he was lighter.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
He'd be knocking people.
He couldn't make the weight.
He couldn't make the weight.
He didn't make this weighteither.
I think they came in a littleheavier.
Both of them Don't quote me onthat, but I believe so.
They said something about acontracted weight.
Usually that's what that means.
They came in a little heavier.
They said something about acontracted weight, which usually
that's what that means.
They came in a little heavierbecause they both agreed on it
then.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Bumbleclad.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
His dad's funny though.
You see his dad fighting withthe crowd too.
Someone must have saidsomething.
That's why I thought that I waslike damn if me and Willie were
there, because it was theEnglish, you know, fans.
So they came and they werefighting.
His dad was yelling at him.
He's like, oh, shut the fuck up, man, what the fuck, I don't
know.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Yo somebody come get this guy.
Yo the Jafakin just came out.
Yeah, jafakin, that's all I gotbro, gotta teach you yo, jahai
music y'all gotta teach me man.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
I need that accent bro.
I need that accent.
Yo, what the fuck?
It's like Bumbleclot, that'sall I got.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Oh my God, yo that was bad.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Still, though, jahai was exciting.
He won.
Alright, should I pause it?
You're really laughing at me.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Oh, what the fuck Shit.
That was nice.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
All right, going forward.
We got a oh Tevin Farmer, tevinFarmer.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Oh shit, oh man, oh, I want money on Tevin Farmer
going the distance, but that wascrazy because he could have the
ref.
Could have stopped it earlier,dude we seen worse.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Tevin Farmer dude.
I gained so much respect forhim, this dude, I thought for
sure he was going to get knockedout in this fight, you thought
the first one, the first one.
I thought too he surprised me.
But then I'm like I saw hisemotions after the fight, Farmer
, and I'm like it's's gonna bereal hard for him to get up
again, for for that, like youknow what I mean, like going
through all that training sohard, coming so close, doing so

(33:49):
well when you're a monsterunderdog, I'm like it's gonna be
real hard for him to get backup from that yeah nah, dude, he
did, he did his thing.
Um, he fucking, he was hurt bad.
He hurt his hand.
He still threw.
He got hurt bad to the body.
At one point Almost went down.
We thought they were going tostop it.
He knew enough to throw to keepit going and lasted.

(34:09):
And then he was landing someclean-ass shots in the second
half of that fight too.
That almost puts Zepeda out.
Those scorecards were a littlewild too.
I did think that he did lose,but it wasn as as wide as they
had it.
Yeah, but he did, he did.
He didn't do enough.
Um, he says he wants to stillfight.
So I'm there to watch tevinfarmer again, if he could do

(34:30):
that.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
He should get his test, a test for anybody yeah
they got like a um, a contenderor something that need to go
trying to get a fight he cameout too.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Apparently he had like tourette's so the people
were like must have beenroasting him on the internet or
something.
He's like oh, I never reallysay this or talk about it, but I
got like Tourette's syndrome.
That's that tick, you see, withmy eyes or whatever.
That's cool, like who cares?
Yeah, that's like peopleinternet's fucking wild bro.
Yeah, but that was cool to see.
Yeah, and I'm here like TevinFarmer, I'm a huge fan, just

(35:01):
from that heart alone, bro.
Like that is crazy.
He be putting on a fight, bro,uh-huh.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
And Zepeda, I don't know what's next for him.
He got swag too.
I ain't gonna lie Farmer.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Yeah, he got the drip Philly swag.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
He got the drip, his fits the colorway, the colorway,
and his shit the colorway, thecolorway and his shit.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
I like those new.
I got to get a pair.
What are those glasses called?
He had like in the way and theylook like Bret Hart's glasses.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
The fuck are they called?
I don't know the one thatTrevor just had on, yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Trevor just had them on in the interview.
Mccombie, I don't know.
I want a pair of those.
I need to get a pair.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
I don classics.
Yeah, those things are comingback.
Yeah, I know I want them.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
I'm like damn I love when old shit comes back.
But yeah, you're right, he doesgot the drip and bro he could
fucking.
He's a problem for anybody.
He can box bro.
He's high risk now too.
He really came Zapata twicelike that and then he got up and

(36:10):
did it again.
He got a great support system.
Did it again, dude.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
His wife.
He put his head up the firstfight.
Oh, she was yo, he was pickingyour head up.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
And then she was in the corner, his wife was in the
corner with him, like trying tomotivate him.
Yeah, it was cool man, that'sdope bro.
It was cool bro.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
That's what I'm talking about, where you need to
see that more often.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah, man, that was good to see I like that shit.
And good for him.
But now, zepeda, let's talkabout him.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
What's next for Zepeda?

Speaker 2 (36:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
I don't know if he wants Shakur.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
Shakur is all wrong for him.
Man Shakur better be pushingfor this fight now, Because
Shakur is all wrong for him.
Shakur is going to box his shityeah one-handed.
One-handed and all Like Shakuris all wrong for him that is
crazy.
Yeah, it changed, just likethat Just like that See what
Tevin Farmer did.
Though See what Tevin Farmerdid.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
His style sounds great man Changed just like that
he put on for that style myopinion changed.
I'm like, yeah, Shakur type ofstyle.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Maybe he fought Farmer for that reason.
But who knows?
Maybe Zepeda learned from that,maybe Farmer made Zepeda better
.
And I don't think Shakur gotpower like Farmer.
So who knows?
But Shakur is just going topiece him up stylistically, like
you said.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
I want to see who's next for Shakur too.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Yeah, he got a fight they're supposed to, but uh, who
knows nobody.
I don't know who's ducking who.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
There was something scheduled loma, loma, still,
yeah, loma, still, okay, yeah,that's, that's good thing you
brought that up you fighting inthe wars, it it's time.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
It's time, Loma.
It's time that someone saysokay, Loma, what are we doing?

Speaker 1 (37:58):
here.
Yeah, what are we doing, bro?

Speaker 2 (38:00):
As the oldies say, shit or get off the pot, my dad
always says that Shit or get offthe pot.
Loma.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
What'd you use this?
Sit on the toilet for a longtime?

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Nah, it's like an expression.
Like yo, are you going to poopor move?
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Nah.
I think, you sit on the toiletfor a long time.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
I do, but it's like my office Get a lot of social
media-ing done there, you know.
But shit or get off the pot,loma.
It's time bro.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Yeah, I just wrote this guy.
What are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Social media-ing yeah social median You're scrolling
through.
Get a little wiggler.
Gotta get that dingleberry out.
It's a good time.
Alright, it's time for Loma toget that dingleberry out.
Bro, where the fuck have youbeen?
Where's?

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Loma.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
What is going on, bro ?
They're covering for him too.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
We ain't here, shit for him.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
They've been like how long is the last 5-12-24?
It we ain't here, shit for him.
They've been like how long isthe last?
Uh, 5, 12, 24, it's coming up.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
That's gonna be one full year oh, that's not bad, no
, but one full year of nothinghe was supposed to fight
giovanna, didn't we?
We saw worse than that, thoughhe, I guess you're right with a
whole belt he does kind of fightonce a year, so hopefully we
get him this year.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
That's annoying too.
Why does loma just fight once ayear now?
He used to fight like crazy.
Nowoma just fight once a yearnow.
He used to fight like crazy,now he just fights once a year.
That's annoying.
I don't know, though, man, whodo you think Shakur should fight
?
In the meantime, though,gervonta Shakur isn't going to
happen.
Unfortunately, lomachenkoShakur isn't going to happen.
It's got to be Zepeda, right,it's got to be surprised.

(39:31):
Nobody wants.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
He's looking to unify , yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Yeah, like.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Who else is in that?

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Muratala, Raymond Muratala.
That's a good fight too.
There's a Keyshawn.
Keyshawn Shakur could happen.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Nah, they ain't fighting.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Golden Boy.
Golden Boy and Top Rank.
What did I say?

Speaker 1 (39:46):
before.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Keyshawn's going to move up to 140.
And what watch to kishan?
That's, that's fire.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
That is, that's lamont roach, lamont roach yeah,
there's a bunch of names outthere, bro, like the.
The lamont roach still got abelt too, yeah 130.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
So I would say abdullah mason's in that weight
class, but he's not.
It's not time for him yet.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
He's this is some names we're missing, but I can't
think of them just right now.
In 135?
.
There's got to be somebody overthere that he can fight In 135.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
We're not missing no names, bro.
Those are all big names.
That's all the top 20.
Schofield, floyd, schofield, healready ducked him.
What are you talking about?
That fight still could happen.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Clearly the boy don't want to fight him.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
That might have been the biggest duck in history.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
That was like the craziest and your boy Danny
Dubois man Nah.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
My boy Danny Dubois.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Nah, Danny did not duck bro.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Oh yeah, he got sick.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
And then he was sitting on the side this weekend
?

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Yeah, I saw him too.
Did you see that thing onposters, though?
You see that shit.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
The thing is all mad yeah dude.
So there's a thing on postersSomebody was smiling, everybody
else was all mad.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Jarrell Miller.
He like smiled, put glasses onor whatever.
And then then you, they panover, like all the heavy.
I will say the english had allthe heavyweights.
Queensbury, queensburypromotions has like heavyweight
unlocked and they, they pan over.
Right, they're panning over,panning over.
And then you get to dubois.
Dubois he was with, I guessthat's his son or his brother.
Dude looked just like him, bro,it's like a little, a little

(41:29):
smaller story too yeah, yeah, Itagged them um still fire.
But when you say, oh, like that,I'm just saying, he just seen
it nah, but uh, yeah, jarellmiller saw it too and that's it.
Yeah, I got some type of beef.
Nah, don't be, obviously, don'tbe.
Just uh, repost my stuff, man.

(41:50):
I'm a big fan, thanks, I'm likethe only fan left loyal to the
soil, uh.
But that being said, so theythey show jor-el miller right
and he puts the glasses on right, like you know, showing off
whatever, and like he's justchilling because he just had a
fight announcement versus fabiowardley, which is a tough fight.
And then they pan over and yousee dubois and he's like this,

(42:12):
he's fucking like grilling jJarrell's stone face.
What the fuck are you lookingat?
There's no beef there.
Jarrell must have saidsomething.
I don't even know.
He just don't like him.
I don't know what the fuck.
It was just a bad camera moment, but probably that shit was
funny.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Maybe he was looking at something else, who knows?

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Yeah, that's funny.
It was funny man.
But Again, the Queensberry man,queensberry promotions it was
their debut on DAZN.
It was a good little card there.
That was what was that?
Fight Shit.
We're all over the place.
Oh, oh, oh.
I'm sorry that's another fightHergovich versus Joe Joyce.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Oh man, joe Joyce, I don't know, I hate his boxing
style.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
I thought, for sure there was going to be a knockout
in that fight and I hit it.
The only that was a must parlay.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
That one hit and I was like, oh, we're golden,
torres is going to get this KO.
He didn't.
That one went the distance.
But you don't like Joe Joyce'sboxing style?
Yeah, but he is who he is.
He looked better in this fight.
Herkovich, I think, is a littleoverrated man Again.
He got tired.
He's one of the most overratedheavyweights.
I think he sat on a rope.
Zhang beat him too.

(43:23):
I don't care what anyone says.
Zhang beat him and that was ahuge robbery back in the day.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Yeah, herkovich isn't what we thought he was.
His hands.
It's like Joe Joy's boxinggloves be looking so extra small
Because he's massive bro.
It's like Danny DuBois' boxinggloves It'd be looking hella
small.
Heavyweights are so big bro,it's crazy when you really but
it's like he's just like thisthis whole time, like put him up
, he's just yeah, but he wasmoving a little bit on his feet,

(44:00):
still slow.
His jab he's good.
I mean, he's always landing.
His jab is always landed,though slow as they was, I ain't
gonna lie, they was punching.
He threw a lot of punches.
I was surprised myself.
His chin is still good too.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
that's another thing the announcers were making a big
deal of like.
They're like oh, you know, he'sbeen a little punchy lately,
got knocked out by Zhang twice.
Zhang is Zhang yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
Like, okay, he got knocked out by Zhang, yeah, but
like his chin is still good.
It's the heavyweights, likeevery heavyweight could punch.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
That fight was exciting, though a little bit.
They was throwing a lot ofpunches.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
I love heavyweight fights but it's funny Like
you're watching, but they like.
It's like tears, bro, they justlike.
But that's the thing withheavyweights there is tears, but
in the heavyweight fights mananything?

Speaker 1 (44:37):
you think tours would fight one of them?

Speaker 2 (44:40):
it's gonna be hard to make.
Well, no top rank is going overthere to the zone too,
apparently.
So yeah, he would, he would,he'll probably, he'll probably
mix it up in that englishcircuit I think so for sure.
That's a lot of freakinganglers fight heavyweights and
you know what I think he hecould.
What is Torres is like top 20now, so yeah, why they got so
many heavy heavyweights.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Do they like?
Focus on making heavyweightswell, they don't play football,
bro.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
They don't play like American football.
Oh yeah, cause?

Speaker 1 (45:06):
yeah, so they now, all the smaller people probably
play soccer.
Well, football because, like,think about that, I'm serious
about that like if you're if youthink about it, what is it else
for you to do as an athlete?

Speaker 2 (45:18):
yeah, when you're that big you can't play
basketball like that I think Ireally think that's why, like
europe in general has like thebetter heavyweights right now,
because the heavyweights inamerica have more opportunity to
place other sports likebasketball and football.
When you're that damn tall, itdon't matter, you get in shape.
Think about it.
How many gyms have we been in?
You never see a heavyweightamateur.

(45:39):
I'm on island anyway, like outhere.
Is there heavyweight amateurs?

Speaker 1 (45:44):
I haven't even seen a heavyweight amateur fight.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
It's crazy.
So they're all playing footballand basketball.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
I've never even seen an heavyweight amateur fight.
Yeah, I have.
How many tournaments we've beento?

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Yeah, and usually when you do, they're older.
It's not like the kids.
There's no heavyweight kidsfighting, yeah, I don't know.
So sucks, but here's what it is.
And that's why heavyweightshave trouble finding sparring
out here.
Yeah, but that's you know.

(46:17):
That's why you gotta, when you,you gotta start young and the
coaches of high schools andstuff, they're putting them in
football like american footballin england.
They don't really got that.
They don't really playbasketball over there like that.
It's actually basketball isgetting bigger in england,
though I will say it's, it's onits way.
They got like a league, I'msure, yeah, I don't know what it
is, but yeah, they got a league, but yeah, that's uh, wow, made

(46:38):
it, you made it, we made it youtalk kind of fast, I know I
told you I was gonna.
I'm on that energy baby, I likethis early day shit, yeah, yeah,
all right, we'll do that morethan just tell me, bro, I'm
flexible uh, okay, there you go.
You're youverted man Thinkinglike a pervert.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
It's 6.30, baby.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Early, let's go.
I'm going to be up all nightediting anyway, all right.
All right, let's talk about thepreview.
I will be there with Milady.
Yes sir, going to Atlantic City,baby, and I love Atlantic City.
It is like the perfect level oflike trash.
You're still kind of in newyork like new jersey tri-state

(47:17):
area.
It's it's vegas, but it's notvegas.
It's like shitty vegas.
It's shitty.
Yes, and like I can't wait,we're staying at the borgata.
The guy I get my tickets fromis going to be there, so I'm
going to touch base with him.
I'll get definitely going togive him a shout out too.
Get him some business.
I can't wait, baby.
I can't wait.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
I'm excited for you.
I wish I could go.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Jerron.
And, to top it all off,everything I just said I love
about Vegas, I'm sorryEverything I just said I love
about Atlantic City, new Jersey.
We're getting a fight.
We have a fight, probably fightof the year possibly.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Yeah, this is probably the toughest fight
Boots has.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Oh, definitely, I think so.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Yeah, this is going to be the toughest.
If he makes, we don't know yet,but it should be on paper.
It should be the toughest fight.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
So he's coming off though.
Versus that guy Chukazadian,whatever however you say his
name.
Okay, and Boots won, you know,but he showed some stuff there
he showed some stuff, thedefense isn't really all there,
but Stanionis is going to testhim.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
He's going to have to be real disciplined with this
guy.
Yeah, the only thing withStanionis we haven't seen him in
a minute A minute, so this isis he should have took a warm-up
fight something.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Ah, nah bro he's going for it yeah he's going to
be tough.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
I don't think like it's going, but he should have
I'm still upset that ortiz jrstanionis didn't happen.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
They're both just for it right, yeah, just boots has
been more active and, as we know, activity matters.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
I like that he.
He want to fight like fourtimes in a year.
Stan Jonas hasn't fought inabout a year, so how the people,
how the, how he, as a fighter,didn't fight in a whole year.
It's crazy.
I know, though there was therewas shit Like how did they?

Speaker 2 (49:08):
just be living life.
Ortiz Jr, stan Jonas right, andthey were about twice, two or
three times they were supposedto fight.
Remember we forgot.
And then Ortiz was havingweight issues.
Then Stan Jonas got likeactually like sick.
He had some like crazy surgery,like procedure, I think, his
kidney's out or some shit crazy.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
Like me.
My shit is going.
I think, nah, some shit likethat.
I'm quiet.
You're like yo, willie, you'rein the hospital.
Let's do the show from thehospital Hell yeah, come in.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Zoom in Nah Willie's fine people.
I'm dying.
Oh, we should start a GoFundMe.
Nah, I'm just kidding, that'sfucked up.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
But yo, yo Bro, stenionis, ennis, let's stay on
track.
We've been talking for a minute.
What's your prediction?
Willie?
What's your prediction?

Speaker 1 (49:52):
stanionis, the only thing I got is the distance.
Yeah, I think distance too it'sgonna.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
It's gonna it's gonna be probably like, but it's
gonna be no money in thatstanionis has like sneaky decent
footwork though, so he comes inand it looks like he's just a
brawler, but but when you reallydissect him, he does have
decent footwork.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
cutting off the ring, I'm so torn about this, I don't
know what to bet.
I can't have no Sparlay.
I'm not doing a Sparlay either,I don't know this is going to
be a hard time, ray.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
Ford's on that card, though I'm excited to see that
Ray Ford is on there.
Yeah, raymond Ford's on thatcard.
I'm excited to see him inperson.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
Wow, you're going to see him in person.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Yes, Damn Yep, he's fighting Thomas Matisse, which
is a decent super feather.
He moved up, he moved up.
So that's a decent Damn Cool tosee that too.
Yeah, man, damn I told you tocome.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
My daughter got a cheer competition.
Yeah, that was crazy, though.
Would they change the fight?

Speaker 2 (50:58):
Yeah, they changed it .
Well, BoxRec jumped the gun, Ithink, on the date and they just
put down the suggested date.
It was like the 20-somethingright and I made plans.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
I'm like oh, I can go .

Speaker 2 (51:09):
And then it changed.
Yeah right, but that's six daysaway, man, I'm excited there's
going to be a lot of stars outthere too, I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
My daughter and I.
They added this one too.
Oh yeah, they just want moneyout of us, bro.
They just went in Rhode Island.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
No, you're a good dad , bro, you're a good dad, you're
going.
Because if I was a dad andthere was a this weekend, an
Atlantic City boxing fight andmy kid had to go, I'm like,
alright, your mom can take you,I'll go to the fights, baby.
But that's why I'm not a dad.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
I like Baltimore, though.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
You should go to a baseball game.
That stadium, the OriolesStadium, yeah, it's right down
the street, it's actually decent.
Stop that.
You can hear it.
I hear it this guy's itchinghis junk.
You can hear it.
Damn, this guy's itching hisjunk, yeah.
So what do you got?

Speaker 1 (51:58):
Decision yeah who I got for decision?
Damn Yo, I think I'm going tojust go with boots, man.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
I don't Mark this down, though.
I don't know when.
I don't know when, but at somepoint, at one point in the fight
there's a chance Ennis getschin-checked because Stagnonis
could bang.
I don't think Ennis is going toknock Stagnonis out.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
I want to see somebody put Boots to a real
challenge.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
This is it.
If Boots shuts out Ennis.
I'm sorry if Boots shuts outStagnonis right, he's going to
shut himself out.
If Boots shuts out, stagnonisall the ifs.
We don't know people like he'sthe next great one.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
Here's his opportunity to prove.
Now I am the next great one.
He's older.
This is a time now we finallyget in this tough fight.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
The welterweight division too.
Man, I'm excited, man, I gotStan Jonas, though no, man, I'm
excited, man, I got Stan Jonas,though no, no, this is Unify or
Undisputed.
I think no, it's just Unify.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
Stan Jonas got a belt .

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Does he?

Speaker 1 (53:03):
Does he unification?
Oh he does?

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Does he unification fight too?
Yeah, nice Look, you get to seea unification fight.
Oh no, I don't.
Who the fuck is it.
Does Daniels have a belt?
Yeah, he do, bro.
No, I don't think he does bro,yes, he does?
I don't think.
Oh yeah, he has the WBA Whoops,it's a unification.
Cool, nice, ibf, wba, oh, butdude, forget about the belts in

(53:30):
this case.
Right, there's been a lot oftalk about Ennis Forget about
the belts.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
I was about the belts .

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Everybody was high on Ennis.
Ennis is, oh my God, he's thenext great.
They're comparing him toCrawford.
People were comparing him likehe's going to be insane.
And then we see some lapses inhis defense, Still winning.
But we're like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
This is his opportunity, bro,to silence us all.
You beat a guy like Stan Jonas,and in fashion you're great.

(53:59):
Nobody wants to fight this guy,stan Jonas.
But then I want to see him,just I want to see him.
Him versus Brian Norman Jr.
He just had a great fight wedidn't talk about him.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
He just had a great fight.
I want to see that that's goingto be.
I think Brian should unify.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
He's probably going to go after Barrios, because
Barrios has the WBC.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
I think Brian should get the unifier, and then Boots
and Undisputed and Brian.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Boots and.
Norman Jr for Undisputed.
For Undisputed would be that'sa fire fight.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
Fire, fire, fire.
That should be the game.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
I think boots might be going up too.
Don't do that.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
He said he wanted to be undisputed, bro, so stay here
.
Let Brian get his belt fromBarrios.
That should be light work, andthen you know that's going to be
fixed, what that is going to be.
Boxing is hot.
If y'all don't appreciateboxing right now, man, I don't
understand what's wrong withy'all.
Stop being a casual.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Yeah stop being a gooner.
The only people that hate onboxing are the haters like if
you.
I say this all the time it's soannoying like stop gooning
watch boxing what's mean?
Being in me.
Don't ever stop that.
Just Just do it in private.
Stop gooning watch boxing.
Stop gooning watch boxing.
That's my new goon song.

(55:17):
That's all we got.
We will be back next week.
Sorry for the delay.
We had a lot to talk abouttoday.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Again.
Check out the interview.
We got two episodes in one.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Yeah, we interviewed.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Shout out to Trevor McCombie out to Trevor McCombie.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Tenacious, trevor McCombie Peeped that interview.
We interviewed him real quicklittle 30 minute interview Prior
to the show.
We'll be posting that out.
You'll see it on all ourplatforms Spotify, apple,
wherever the hell you Podcastsubscribe man Like and subscribe
please, and we were going to golive today, but I want to just
work the kinks out.
We have a new program thatwe're recording on.

(55:57):
We will be going live soon.
So if you are a listener, staytuned for that.
If you're not a listener andyou're not hearing this, go fuck
yourself.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
We're out Peace.