HITCHINS SHINES, NORMAN EXPLODES, TAC DELIVERS: BOXING, BOXING, BOXING

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's time for the main event.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's the Sparrin' Podcast if you want his real
name.
What up, Shane Bro, justfucking doxing me out here.
What would?

Speaker 1 (00:26):
you rather be called I don't know, dude, I've had so
many nicknames in my life, Idon't really care.
Most people just call mePunchlines.
Now, it's weird Really In theboxing community.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
That's what I call you.
But if you noticed, my otherco-host, willie, is not here.
If you noticed, my other co-host, willie, is not here.
I don't know where he is.
I hope he's okay.
We said 8 o'clock.
We started late anyway becauseof the usual technical
difficulties, but we have ashitload to talk about and me
and Shane probably could do it.
We probably could do it.
What do you think, shane?
We got this, bro.
Yeah, it wouldn't be the firsttime If you guys can't hear me.
Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

(01:00):
I'm having a lot of issues, asusual here, but I think I'm good
.
I think we're good.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
You want to hear something funny?
Just to quickly derail thepodcast.
Sure, don't fuck with me.
I got an email from my Venmoreceipt, or not?
Venmo Cameo Okay, because I'min a 16-team dynasty league for
fantasy football.
Okay, and all the other guys inmy league are huge Cleveland
Browns fans because it's alllike an old fraternity from Ohio

(01:27):
and I replaced one of the guys,so I paid Joe Thomas to call
them all gay.
Basically, he did oh yeah, dude, each one of them.
I said personal shit about eachone of them.
That's awesome.
He's like I'm going for Shane.
He's my only real fan.
I'm not even a browns fan.

(01:47):
I'm excited, that's all I gottatalk shit early how much did
that?
Cost like 170 bucks really.
Yeah, for well, joe thomas yeahbut boxing related.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Now it's all right at that.
I mean we're, it's just us two.
So this is going to go fast.
We don't have a third wheel, nothird wheel here.
Third wheel willie is not here,mia, but we have a bunch of
boxing shit to talk about.
Uh, we're a week behind.
We.
We weren't here last weekbecause I was hung over sorry,
that's my fault because I did goto the richardson hitchens

(02:21):
george ferocious.
Because I did go to theRichardson Hitchens George
Ferocious, cambosis fight.
It was fun, we were there liveand we got wasted.
But we're going to speak onthat.
So, just quick, because wemissed a week, I'll chop some
crap up.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, but it went pretty much as we expected.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
It won't be a long chat From there.
We'll talk a little bit aboutthe undercard.
Brian Norman Jr stole the theweekend we're going to speak on
that.
Obviously dirty he is, yeah,he's.
He's definitely climbing up theranks in my rankings, not that
they matter.
My friend another fight I wasat busy couple weeks for me
jahai tucker versus lorenzotruck simpson also kind of stole

(03:02):
the the past two weeks in asense, not with the knockout,
but just with everything thatwent on.
Talk about that fight, not somuch the card itself Vito
Milanicki is a friend too, butit wasn't really that
interesting.
Anyway, speak on the CaneloCrawford presser a little bit.
Oh man, I think I had more ohyeah, and then a quick preview

(03:24):
as well of the billy salukifight.
Not really much to talk aboutthere either, but uh, the main
thing really, though, is I Iguess brian norman jr jahai
tucker I want to speak on, and,um, oh yeah, the the press
conference too.
Canelo crawford, that's likelike the the hot topic the

(03:45):
Hitchens fight.
Yeah, richardson, hitchens,we'll start there.
I guess we could just get intothat right now, unless there's
anything else you want to speakon prior to that.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
I don't even think.
I mean I guess it's a Quinnbeing on the undercard.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
But yeah, yeah, we can speak on the undercard as
well, nothing crazy.
Can speak on the undercard aswell, nothing crazy.
But because he's kind of apopping name right now oh yeah,
he's, he's doing everythingcorrect, um, especially with the
marketing too.
Because, uh, yeah, we couldtalk about zaquin now.
Let's just um, he looked reallysharp versus a grown-ass man.
Did you see that guy in there?
yeah, he was like, uh likemuscular in shape, like I don't

(04:21):
remember his record, but I thinkhe was like brazilian and I
don't remember his name either,but seeing him in person you
could tell he definitely hadlike an mma background.
I don't know if he was really abig boxing background, but
zaquin, size wise, doing what hedid to that guy and just
showing his poise, that's theone thing I like the most.
He wasn't nervous at all.

(04:42):
He's what?
Zaquin three and oh, now fourand oh four and oh yeah, so his
only his fourth fight.
These are the I like the most.
He wasn't nervous at all.
He's what?
Zaquin 3-0, now 4-0.
4-0, yeah, so only his fourthfight.
These are the type of fightsyou're going to get with him.
He was probably him andHitchens were the most composed
fighters out of the wholefreaking card.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah, he's just got that it to him.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, it's like he does everything perfect and
correct and you know, I'm surehe'll.
As time goes on and thecompetition gets better, we'll
see more of stuff to critique.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Well, did you see that clip that's been
circulating the pages?
Yeah, with him and Kermel,kermel Moulton.
Yeah, because this was theAmateur National Championship
this week, usa Boxing.
So they were both down thereand they did that little
face-off because the quinn'sstarting to get some hype.
Cremel's had the hype but, uh,his last amateur fight he lost

(05:33):
to the quinn's.
That quinn beat him at thatexact tournament I think.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
I think then he beat him four times.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
I read two in amateurs I'm not sure I don't
know about that, but I knowtheir last meeting, the most
recent one they uh, is a Quinnone.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah it was a good fight too.
Usually.
Usually I would say like and Ialways say this like, amateur
records don't matter to me inthe pros, but but being this
early in their career, they dokind of mean something.
Now you know what I'm saying.
Like this early in both oftheir career, it would mean
something if they were to fight.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Hopefully that that happens, I don't yeah, I kind of
disagree, though, like I'm abig believer in like amateur
pedigrees, like yeah you, yousee the boxers without them,
it's it's a harder climb towardsthe top without that amateur
pedigree, it's less rare no, no,a hundred percent%.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
But sometimes I'm like I guess a good example
would be, I don't know, I'd sayUsyk, but he really is the best.
Who's like a?
Oh, kensei Sao, right, right,he was a great amateur.
I think he was an Olympian aswell.
He's anic medalist yeah, yeahand and in the pro ranks, like

(06:44):
they, they like to bring up hisamateur record and I'm like,
yeah, okay, but at this point inhis career he's been a pro now
for quite some time like, yeah,that's good, that's great.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah, I'm not saying you should buy fully into it,
but if there's like a likebecause we also know what can
say, so is kind of now too, yeah, yeah.
But you know, like you canbring up like who's a?

Speaker 2 (07:05):
there's a bunch of good guys like if they're good,
if they pass the eye test as apro, and then they're like, you
know, like gary antoine russellhe's not an olympic medalist,
but if you're like, by the way,he beat boots and the amateurs
he beat yeah and the amateurs,you're like all right, well,
this guy's really talented thenI see what you're saying, like
yeah, like he knows something,obviously, and and I I agree
with that I just hate when, like, if it's a very it's two very

(07:28):
close fighters, they'll be likeoh well, he beat so and so in
the amateurs.
Like yeah, that was like 10years ago, like they're grown
men now, when usually whenyou're in the amateurs, you're
you're not a grown man yeah,after like 10, 15 fights
depending on how you get movedyour amateur record no longer
matters.
Yeah, it's like to be honest andand and they do that a lot they

(07:50):
like to.
I guess it's for promo, it'sbecause they don't fight no one.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
They're like yeah, this guy knocked out, fucking
wasn't like.
Well, who's a good like thisguy got knocked out, damon
nicholson in a supermiddleweight, it's like sick
dude.
I want to buy a pay-per-viewnow.
Yeah, yeah seriously, um.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
But yeah, I mean back to the topics.
The quinn is.
Sky is the limit for him and if, if a kermel's a fight was to
happen, they'd sell a lot oftickets because of the the east
coast, west coast, that theamateur uh rivalry, and they did
the right thing marketing wisethere, you know, they had the
kids around them videotaping andthey were the right thing
marketing wise there, you know,they had the kids around them
videotaping and they weregassing each other up, talking
some shit.
Yeah, it was really cool to see.

(08:31):
Honestly, it looked very uh.
They looked, I guess, furtheralong their career than you
would think they are, if youyeah, I like seeing the young
guys get hype.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
I don't, you know, no offense, but like you got the
shu shu route, like where wewatch these guys climb and climb
and grow and grow, and thenit's like you got the guys who
you know.
They get that social media,they get that marketability.
The sport needs that.
We need popular fighters in thefuture.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah definitely and popular fighters
willing to fight each other.
That's, that's the bigger thing, uh.
But yeah, they were on theundercard too.
Before we get into hitchens, Iliked the uh, terramana,
terramana, I guess that's howyou say his name.
It's my first time seeing him,the heavyweight the co-main
event.
Uh, was it the co-main?
I think I think it was theheavyweight, I'm not sure.

(09:18):
Oh no, the co-main was um,what's his name?
Uh, shit, I want to talk abouthim too.
Speaking of amateur versusamateur.
It was Keyshawn's rival there.
What's his name?

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Oh, andy, that's right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah, he knocked that dude the fuck out.
Yeah, and actually I wrotesomething down that I wanted to
talk about on that.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Let's go back to the heavyweight though, yeah yeah,
yeah, sorry, sorry.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
That's cool Because I had it written down.
I don't know where the fuck itwent.
I tried to keep some kind oforder here.
As usual, I'm discombobulatedbecause something went wrong and
Willie's missing.
I hope he's okay.
Prayers up for Willie.
But that actually is concerning.
Yeah, because he never answersmy calls, even if he's sleeping.
He'll pick up, but I'll figurethat out after the fact and he
never will.
Just no-show.
This is his first no-show, sohe's going to get in-school

(10:07):
suspension when we're done here.
True it, but what's his face?
Trevor Mana, trevor Mana, thesame name twice.
That's like his actual name.
I guess that's pretty sick.
Yeah, I thought they were justlike a nickname, but then I
looked it up like oh no, that'shis name.
He was also in the Olympics, Iguess, and I didn't know
anything about him.
I never seen him fight, to behonest, but seeing him in person

(10:31):
and, yeah, the competitionwasn't really all that, but as a
heavyweight, seeing the way hemoved and he's marketable,
well-spoken, loves to dance gotthe crowd going.
Yeah, he was fluid, yeah, andhis feet were very good for his
size and that's really all youneed in in the heavyweight
division, because it's to dosomething anyway is really good

(10:52):
feet, but he has the power too,and the big thing for me was the
size.
I'm looking at him and themovement and I'm like, okay,
this, this guy could definitelydo something yeah, yeah, there's
a lot to work with, with thatdude, yeah, a lot, and the
heavyweight division is wideopen.
He's going to climb the ranksfast, but it's got good young
guys, which is is really cool.

(11:12):
Yep and dude, when he came outtoo, like it was.
I don't know what the song was,it was some like australian
song, but the crowd was bumpingto it.
He was dancing.
You see this giant figure.
He looked like aquaman dancinglike it was.
He does look like aquaman yeah,and and like he was humble and
like he was just.
It was just a good dude.
He was taking pictures witheveryone after, so it was cool

(11:34):
to see like somebody I I haven'theard of.
Oh man, that that was loud,that sounded like a bomb.
A bomb was going off, just thepower of the fucking rogues bro,
what is that a zin zin?
Are you zin?

Speaker 1 (11:45):
it's a zin competitor rogue, they're, they're fatter
they're juicier.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
I never got on that crap because I have like a very
addictive personality.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
So yeah, I chewed tobacco for 15 years.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Geez, yeah, that's bad that well, that australian
dude, uh, terramana, terramana,I think I'm saying he looks like
he chewed tobacco.
Yo he should.
I just thought of this.
He should look like he chewsfucking lug nuts.
Yo what?
Yes, you're right, what's uh?
What's the rocks um?
What's the rocks?
Like tequila, I think it'staramana right, yeah, I think so

(12:18):
is that right?
I don't know if we're saying hisname right, but he should get
sponsored by them, because thenhe'd be Terramana Terramana
sponsored by Terramana Tequila.
But all right, I'm going, I'mjust fucking going all over the
place, fucking airball dude.
Oh yeah, that's another TikToktrend.

(12:38):
We're everywhere today.
Man, I'm all fucked up now.
But yeah, he looked good.
And then the co-main was AndyCruz Versus the Asian dude,
right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
I don't remember the guy's name, but he got fucking
waxed bro.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah, pretty bad, and the only real takeaway I have
from this was what's the guy onDAZN?
He also started with like ashowbiz Biz the adult, whatever
his name is With also startedwith like a showbiz biz the
adult whatever his name is withthe bug eyes.
Oh yeah, showbiz, showbiz.
Yeah, he posted something andhe was talking about how like
flat-footed andy cruz was andhe's like I don't know,
something looks wrong with him.
He looks very flat-footed andI'm like dude, he's, he's with

(13:20):
boots, senior, right like he.
He's.
He's clearly trying to sit downon his punches and it worked.
He, he, not.
He got the guy out of therelike his power wasn't really
translating his few fightsbefore this and, okay, maybe his
feet didn't look as good asthey have, but we know he has
feet like he.
He's.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yeah, he's always had great feet like yeah, I think
showbiz just misinterpreted whathe was seeing, because he was
right in noticing what he saw.
Yeah, yeah, I just think hisanalysis of it was wrong.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
what it seems like yeah, he was like I guess it's
good you pointed that out,because I was like what the fuck
is this guy?
He's like, oh, his legs lookwrong.
Oh, great combo, his legs lookreally messed up.
And I'm like, wait what?
And it was clear he was tryingto sit down on his punches to me
anyway, and that's exactly whathappened.
He did and he got the guy outof there.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, that's how it felt, Because I remember it was
like when Plant fought Benavidezright, and in the beginning I
thought Plant was going to bereally light on his feet and
move around and he was actuallystanding there in the pocket and
I was like damn, I'm surprisedby that.
But uh, I was like it was clearhe was trying to stay in the
pocket with benavidez and makehim miss there.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Yep so I feel like and plant, we know, has great
feet too, so it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
It wasn't like I don't think anything's wrong
with his legs, but yeah, yeah, Ijust think he missed and like
diagnosed what he saw yeah, yeah, and sometimes too, I I could
say from experience doing thisstupid, shitty podcast uh, we
all.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
when you have to talk , you get a lot of air balls, oh
yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
It's the worst.
I do it all the time.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Sometimes I listen back I'm like what?
No, he didn't beat him.
And I'm like, oh man, butthat's why it's good to have
more people to check me andcheck each other.
But then on to the main event.
Richardson Hitchens and youknow, willie was there with me,
so I hope he's okay he was goingto chime in on this one.
Richardson Hitchens defeatsGeorge Ferocious Cambosis in

(15:15):
style, got an eighth roundstoppage.
This was clearly RichardsonHitchens' career-defining
performance to me.
Not even when he got the belt.
He showed out here that thestoppage was plus money.
So the stoppage TKO KO was plusmoney for him.
So it wasn't expected.
But he hit the under right.
I don't know, did he?

(15:35):
I didn't check, I think yeah,it was nine and a half.
He hit him in eight.
I think he did hit the underactually, because I actually hit
a bet on that too.
So, yeah, I had andy cruz and Iandy cruz.
Um, what's his face?
Quichon's rival, that's what Icall him, and it is andy cruz,
right?
yeah, that's why I was like yeah, yeah, my bad, my bad.
Every time I say cruz, bro, mymind goes somewhere else and I

(15:55):
think people, yeah, like nomatter what.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
So andy cruz, I had and andy ruiz too, so that's
good.
Yeah, that's another one.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
But uh, yeah, I had him stoppage with, uh,
richardson hitchens stoppage ortk okay or whatever, and they
both hit.
So I won some bread on that,which was very nice, but I was,
I was really.
So where we usually sit when wego to these fights at the hulu
there's like two sides, right.
One side is like would be, inthis case, cambosis's family,

(16:23):
and the other side is would bethe other opponents, like family
and fans, which is likehitchens, in this case,
cambosis's family, and the otherside is would be the other
opponents, like family and fans,which is like hitchens's family
or whatever right.
So usually we're on the otherside, like the hometown side,
which would be hitchens, in thiscase, for whatever reason, this
side I got and like I don'tpick, we got cambosis side and
I've sat there before actuallythe josh taylor teo fight.
I was there so like I, so I knewhow it went.

(16:44):
But whatever, bro, the Cambosisfan base was actually really
cool.
I got to give it to theAustralians.
They were cool, they wereknowledgeable, they knew what
Cambosis was going into and theywere very friendly to Willie
and I as well, even with megoing crazy because I was
rooting for Hitchens.
So that was really cool to seewith that australians are an

(17:06):
awesome fan base bro yeah, no,they really are.
And I'm gaining like the moreaustralia, like all we had
really from australia that Icould remember is zoo, the zoos
like tim zoo and uh and his, hisdad, really.
So now, seeing that more andmore australian fighters are
coming like the heavyweight andjeffick way back in the day oh
yeah, finnick too, yeah, butthen you had guys like you know.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
You had Jeff Horn for a little bit.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Jeff Horn yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Anthony Mundine fucking knocking out Shane
Mosley, and shit, I do, I doforget about Jeff Horn too, I
guess the fucking.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
But Cambosis really to me, was he?
He really not other than thezoo family?
Cambosis really captured withthe huge upset.
So he captured us, he, he hitthe mainstream, hit the
spotlight, and you know he, itwas just cool to see all those
Australians that being friendlyand knowing.
Like you know, I even said Iwas like, listen, I'm rooting
for Hitchens, but if Cambosiswon, I I wouldn't be mad at the

(18:06):
guy.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
He's very likable.
Yeah, he dm'd me after I waslike did he?
What'd he say?
Because, like, well, because hecommented on that meme I made
about him.
Yeah, yeah, some guys like I'mtired of seeing him.
He's like well, you're gonnasee me in your mom's bed tonight
and so I like that's.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
So you see how cool it is.
Like I think I told you thistoo.
He called me a pelican once andI was like yo, that's awesome,
I don't know, I don't know, butit was also like this guy just
called me a pelican well he.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
I posted his comment on my story because it was
hilarious.
Yeah, he messaged me.
He's like you shouldn'tdisrespect real fighters, bro.
Oh yeah, and I thought I waslike dude to be honest with you,
like I'm on record on thispodcast saying like, yeah, like
george deserves respect, like hegot the title and immediately
was gonna fight loma and thenhaney, when loma couldn't fight,

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I was like I absolutely dorespect you, but my page is like
I make fun of everyone.
I was like if you won, I wouldhave made fun of hitchens too.
Like I had one ready like that.
Like it's nothing personal,it's just like a comedian
roasting dude.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
He's like I get it you told me caleb plant, one of
your favorite fighters, andyou've roast him as well.
There's no bias in your page atall.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah, but you're the one getting made fun of and you
don't know who this person is.
It's not like he knows mebefore that, yeah.
So he was like yeah, yourshit's funny, but I give my all
to this man.
I've only lost to worldchampions and I like yeah, and
look at the comments, there'sfans saying exactly that and
that's like what I was talkingabout.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Even with the australia, like obviously the
australian fan base was verylike sad when, when he lost
which I get and I was tellinghim like dude, but but you don't
understand.
Like he's gonna go down andlike the his, like the old,
those weird boxing encyclopediabooks.
Right, they're gonna talk aboutgeorge cambosis, how he ducked
nobody and it was all our fansare gonna remember him, for sure
, yeah like like nobody.
That being said, I I will say,like, for his health, I I'm okay

(19:50):
with him like retiring.
I know he won't, because he'sall heart and he's, he's pure,
he's a fighter, he's, he's apure fighter.
And dude, his entrance waselectric too.
He came out to like some eminemsong and like he was just
pacing back and forth.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
It was cool to see, it was entertaining yeah, he's
an entertaining guy, but uh, youknow he needs to.
He needs to if because I don'tknow what his goal is, because
he's gotten so many big, likebig fights after the tia, he hit
a lot like he.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
He got lightning in a bottle and kept it going for as
long as he could, so right, butI feel like that bottle is
officially empty.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
You know what I'm?

Speaker 2 (20:25):
saying, yeah, I think this was like eye-opening and,
and like we talked about in thelast show, his, his previous,
like three fights.
Two of them could have wenteither way and you know.
So whatever he's but I'm not.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
I'm not saying he can't get a big fight after this
, I'm saying his next fightcan't be like a title fight.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
No, I think I think at this point and I'm going to
speak on this again uh, withanother fight, is he's kind of
like a gatekeeper now which,whatever, I just don't want I
think he's oh yeah he's made somuch money in the sport.
Like I, like the guy like wetalked about, like I don't want
to see him get like hurt no, butyou know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Like I feel like he's in that austin trout territory.
Yeah, exactly, he's got thatbig win.
So beating him is recognizablefor these guys, like, because
then he went on to fight all thecharlos and laura and canela
and all that pretty much whatcambosis did.
I bet you.
Is he with eddie now?
Is he officially with ed who?

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Kambosis yeah, I think, I think he is yeah, right
.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
Dude Eddie is for sure going to try to make him
versus Dalton Smith.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Okay, yeah, I could see that.
So you know what the Englishcircuit and stuff.
That'd be good.
That'd be a cool card, cool forhim too.
Go make your money over there.
He'll make a lot of money overthere.
I'm sorry I got sidetrackedagain quick because somebody I
don't know who this is said Pumais the fucking man on the
comments.
We're new to this.
Who is it?
I don't know?

(21:53):
Hk, but thank you, hk.
If you don't already have afree shirt, I'll send you one.
Sorry, all right, sorry, allright.
Anyway, but yeah, I could seethe.
That's what I mean.
Eddie's probably going to feedhim because he knows he's going
to fight again.
He's going to feed him to guys.
Yeah and yeah, but anyway, itwasn't all about Kambosis.
But that, see what he just did.

(22:14):
See what Kambosis just did.
He lost right, clearly, and ithas real boxing fans talking
about his heart and how great heis.
Like, like, that's something tobe said in itself, like you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Right, we had a whole segment on him and we'd even
get to Hitchens yet, but nowwe're going to, now we're going
to get to Hitchens, yeah, I meana lot of people thought he
they're like he gets calledboring a lot because he has had
some boring fights, had someboring fights, but there's when

(22:46):
there's fights where he's in it,like that, you know, like
dropping people and yeah, andand, like I said, he's the
closest thing to shakur withoutbeing shakur.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Style wise that's my opinion he's.
Stylistically, he's the closestthing to shakur without being
shakur.
And it was all jab baby, he, hewas making that jab.
That jab looked fucking sharpversus cambosis.
Yeah, he's got a very good oneand and everything he did after
the jab like he was settingshots up with the jab, like what

(23:11):
you're supposed to do, hewasn't reaching his distance was
perfect, and cambosis did tryto muck it up at times, like
that was, you know, he, he and Iwrecked props to cambosis for
that.
Like he, he did the right thing,but it it was just good to see
and I'm happy for Hitchens.
Before, though, when I wastalking about the fan base right
, actually, let me get to thatat the end.

(23:32):
Let me stay on a little bit oftrack here.
One thing I saw in Hitchensthat I haven't seen right and
which I liked is his body attack.
Usually the guys that fight ata distance like that, off the
jab, they don't really go to thebody, and he started eating
cambosis his body up, and thatwas also a good wrinkle I saw.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah, I want to know where that came from.
I could be.
I want to know if he just feltgood doing it in camp or if they
kind of saw that in tape, yeah,and then started doing it in
camp and he got confident at itor what.
But yeah, it was like, uh, Idon't know, dude, but it was, it
was, it was nice to see.
Yeah, it's definitely a goodtool to have.

(24:12):
And people who are really goodat it, like because now like it,
like all these, all the guys at140, think they can beat the
shit out of each other or theyhave history right, yeah.
But I mean like, let's behonest, they're still fighters.
They're still going to watchhim, knowing that he can win
uh-huh.
And now that he has that tooland it's shown proof that he has
fight stopping power withinthat tool, yeah, like, yeah he's

(24:37):
.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
He just became even harder for people to fight.
Yeah, and and like, evenwhether he saw it from Kambosis'
last fights or whatever, orjust worked on it in camp, it
proved to work.
And it's another wrinkle in hisgame now.
And listen, he's a tough out.
He's a tough out.
I'm a TO sexual.
He's a tough out for TO.
So he's smart, he movescorrectly, he's disciplined, he

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stays focused and his stock justkeeps rising with every fight
and stays focused and his stockjust keeps rising with every
fight and that's what you wantto see.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
So, stylistically, a nightmare for teo yeah, oh, 100,
I agree.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Just just a total nightmare.
The only thing I'll say is teohas more zip than cambosis, I
feel so he'll.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
He'll get hit with something that that could shock
that wave, you know yeah, hedoesn't roll through teo like
anywhere remotely close to howhe did cambosis, to be honest,
but it's a tough fight for, yeah, a hundred percent, and, and
again, I'm a Tio sexual and Iagree with you there.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
But back to the fans, and I don't want to speak too
too much on this.
Uh, dude, uh, what is with BillHaney?
I don't know, bro, like what?
So, dude, we were two or threerows behind bill and his I guess
devin's brother, right, and Isaw bill posted something about
him in brooklyn.
He's looking for teo, he'slooking for hitchens where are

(25:52):
they?
And then, like bill's at thefight and he's sitting ringside,
like literally ringside bro,he's, he's standing, he's
standing up the entire fightjust standing there, screaming,
yelling, and at one point I'mlike yo sit, we can't see.
He has long.

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He has sort of like an afro.
I think he has an afro.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
He looks like Sideshow Bob bro.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Dude, he's got long hair.
I couldn't see shit and it wascrazy dude.
And we're screaming.
I'm like what are you doing?
And it's just, it's a really.
I like bill.
He chops it up with the fans,he talks boxing.
So I don't want to like roasthim too bad, but it's just
getting to be a really weirdflex for me, like you're.
It's like your, your son'salmost 30 years old.

(26:39):
You're going to your son's jobright and your son's off that
day hitchens versus cambosis andyou're yelling at your son's co
right and your son's off thatday Hitchens versus Cambosis and
you're yelling at your son'scoworkers.
That's what it looks like to me.
It's like if our parents wentto our job because we were
getting bullied.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
And not even his coworkers, because he's not in
the same weight class or underthe same promotion.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Yeah, that too.
And dude, they were like,listen, I'm a heckler, they were
heckling.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
They wouldn't stop.
They would not stop.
This is why it also doesn'tmake any sense, because it's not
like they're really trying toget that fight, because I mean
Hitchens, when it was his turnto get on the mic, he was like
unfiltered, yeah, yeah, you know, abrasive as hell, like let's
fucking fight.
And then Devin was like hetweeted, tweeted out he's like

(27:26):
we can do it at 147, like whatyou know that like the dude just
won the title, yeah, like stopalso too.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
It like formed an alliance, almost like he's
bringing people together becauseteo was there and him and
hitchens were like.
You know, they've always beenfriendly, their, their, their
shit.
Talk has always been aboutcompetitiveness, really, and
like now they're like yo fuckthese, fuck, fuck the Haney's,
what the hell.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yeah, it's all got to .
Just I bet you Bill's justdoing it to get people to talk
about Devin without Devin havingto do it.
But how weird is that?
It's very I don't know.
It's annoying, but it worksbecause look what we're doing.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, but I don't know if we're not really talking
about Devin.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
We're talking about Devin we're talking about.
Bill, yeah, but talking aboutBill gets you.
So I I don't think I'm sayingis like I see what he's doing.
But the thing is I thinkeverybody sees what he's doing.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
I he's.
He is caught bringing eyes tohis son, I guess, but like it's
just odd to me that you'rewhere's Devin, like if Devin was
there doing that, that'd be,that'd be way better.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Oh dude, like it's crazy because Devin got his ass
beat by Ryan.
At the time we didn't knowabout the Ostrich.
When we watched that fight,nobody was like PEDs, everybody
was like dude, damn, devin gothis fucking ass beat, yep, got
mocked on the internet byeverybody, yep.
And then goes to court Like afew people took his side.

(28:45):
Most people are like that thisis a pussy move.
You're going to court trying tosay he battered you, hitting
guys out in public, finally getsup, gives up his title.
Instead of fighting sandormartin, she gives up the title.
Yeah, fights in that new yorkcity card.
Does like, even though hedominates, gets no credit for it
.
Like there's almost nofavorable reviews for that fight

(29:09):
and it's like Bill's just doinganything he can to keep people
talking about Devin.
It's like nobody takes likeDevin has fans, but like most
people are like bro, what areyou hyping up?
Like a dude who got droppedfour times and then moved I'm

(29:30):
not going to say ran, but damnnear ran the whole fight.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah, it was just very, very, very odd and it's
getting odder because he's notstopping.
He was at, so I just saw it.
Now.
I guess this weekend in NewYork City was Fanatics Fest
where, like all the like, allgreat athletes go, like Tom
Brady, I'm sure you saw it.
Yeah, they do.
It's kind of cool.
Canelo was there and we'regoing to talk about that too.

(29:54):
Terrence Crawford did theirwhat's it called their press
conference there just now,sunday yesterday, right, and
Bill was there again talkingshit to hitchens.
So it's like he like stalkedhim.
Yeah, like what are you doing?
Dude?
It's bill's a grown like alegit and hitchens kind of
smiles, like what are you doing?
Like now, because it's weird.

(30:14):
Yeah, now it's getting.
And again, bill has always beenreceptive.
I've spoken to him, I've hadconvos, I've seen him with other
fans talking boxing.
He's always been receptive andI'm not saying don't stick up
for your kid, but don't fightyour kids.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Fights for him, like it's it's, or start fights for
your kid, I don't know don'tbecome obsessed with a guy who's
not even a realistic opponent,because you know what they're
doing.
They're painting this wholepicture like, oh, we chased
after hitchens, we chased afterhitchens, he didn't want to
fight.
It's like, well, you didn'twant to fight him for his title.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yeah, and he's 140.
He's actually still 140.
Yeah, and I guess what is DevinHaney?
Because they were going to doit.
He's 145, whatever, that is Forthe.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Ramirez fight right.
Yeah, he's 145.
And then he wanted to fightTeal at 145.
145.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
And then he wanted to fight Teal at 145.
I guess they said that Tealwanted I don't know what to
believe, but they said Tealwanted to catch weight at 145.
I don't know, but what is 145?
Is that a new weight class?

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Yeah, it's the.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Haney weight.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
It's the Haney weight .
Remember Canelo weight back inthe day?
Yeah, yeah, when he'd fight allhis middleweight fights at 155.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Or what's the other one, the Bridger weight?
It's the Haney Bridger weight.
Oh yeah, the made-up, we justneed another weight.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah, it's so dumb.
A good jumping-off point unlessyou had anything else to say.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
No, no, that's really .
I just want to make it clearthat I'm it's getting really,
really odd and and at thehitchens fight he was literally
like badgering hitchens whilehitchens is fight like if I did
that, I'm a fan.
You know what I mean.
I'm a nobody, like like afighter's, a fighter's, a really
top 10 fighters.

(31:56):
Dad shouldn't be badgeringanother fighter.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
That's for us especially when the fight is
irrelevant, probability wise isnot gonna happen like that's,
that's our job, that's all so.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
But no, no, what were you gonna jump off on?

Speaker 1 (32:08):
well, you know who devin did verbally agree to
fight at 147 right.
Who brian norman?

Speaker 2 (32:16):
oh okay, before brian norman's fight okay, and then
what happened with that?

Speaker 1 (32:20):
then, well then, well , I don't know, but brian, uh,
haney came out and tweeted afterthat he's like maybe brian
isn't so ass yeah, he's not.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
He's not so ass, because that brian norman fight
was insane and yeah, we couldjust jump right into that brian
norman uh, was it on a?
What day was that fight on?
I re-watched the whole fight.
It's thursday morning yeah soso it was a thursday, because
sometimes I know that the jfights are on like Tuesday
mornings.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
So, whenever it was, he stole the boxing, all the
boxing shit that's going on, thedrama, the announcements,
whatever.
Brian Norman stole the show ina fight that nobody in America
watched.
He stole it.
I know, and listen, I didn't.
The only fights I really wakeup for is, in a way and even
them, sometimes I I don't betterover there, but brian norman

(33:10):
did what you're supposed to doover there because he, he got
our attention, he got the boxingworld's attention and I'll let
you take it from here, you goahead, but he, he did his
fucking thing, man, yeah, and itwasn't even, because the
knockout is what everybody'stalking about, but and like how
he set it up and everything, butlike nobody's talking about he

(33:32):
was fucking cracking that dude.
The whole fight, dude, likeleading up to that so the first
round I don't know if that checkhook was hard or this guy just
got, because he did get hit inthat sweet like behind the head
spot not behind the head, butthe top of your head spot when
your cerebellum gets all fuckedup.
I don't know if I'm saying thatright.
That check hook that knockedhim down in the first round,

(33:52):
right, I was like, was that hard?
Does this guy not have a chin?
And then I thought it was goingto be all over because he got
knocked down again in the secondhalf of the first round.
But the second round, what'shis name?
Jin Sasaki, yeah, sasaki.
The second round Sasaki showedheart and did something.

(34:12):
He came back and he gainedrespect.
But then it was the whole BrianNorman, whole brian norman show
after that.
But you are right, he possessespower in both hands.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
So yeah, and he.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
He has a better ring iq than I think I gave him
credit for too yeah, and that'slike I know everyone's talking
about the setup, but that setupwas clean.
He was like baiting him he, hesaw something.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Oh, hold on one second hold on.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
It's all good.
Oh man, there's like a domesticgoing on back there.
All right, guys, it's just puma.
Now this episode is.
It's getting weird.
Um, we are live again, so bearwith us.
We had technical difficulties.
We were rolling.

(35:03):
Oh man, someone's fighting inthe background.
I hope everyone's okay.
Willie didn't show up.
What's going on in the world?
What is going on in the world?
Willie is not here.
There's some kind of disputegoing on.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
She's freaking the fuck out on this dog oh, she's
yelled at a dog.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
It was not person on person.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Uh, shane, shane and jane is back bro, they got this
puppy and she fucking on thatthing all the time.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
It's so funny I was telling.
I was telling her like, oh, Ithink that willie's missing.
There's some kind of domesticdispute going on back there no,
no um but no, she got.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
She got that, that puppy for her girlfriend and,
okay, her girlfriend and I lovethe fucking dog, but yeah yeah,
puppies are, puppies are,puppies are.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
So much work bro yeah , and he's.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
He's no exception to that.
Let me see if I can.
He's no exception to that.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Let me see if I can.
It's all.
Good, bro, I don't care thisepisode is.
I'm going to chop up clipsanyway because we had the
technical difficulty.
Willie's not here.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
That should help a little bit.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
No, you sound way different.
Do I sound bad?
No, you sound all right, youjust sound different.
We were rolling too, man, mybad dude.
She had to beat the puppy.
Beat that damn puppy.
Fucking women ruin everything,bro.
They make everything nice too.
Brian Norman, yeah, BrianNorman Jr.

(36:32):
What do you think?
The only thing bad about BrianNorman Jr for me was at the end
of the fight, when he came atBoots a little bit.
He had a cool one-liner.
He definitely stirred that upbefore the fight.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Yeah, but he also has rejected fight offers from
Boots before.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Exactly, listen.
He had his moment, he did histhing and he shot his shot.
I guess you could say, and it'slike Again, yeah, it was a
little petty.
If you know boxing like if youfollow boxing, you don't have to
know it, but if you followboxing religiously, like us, it
was a little petty, that's all.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yeah, it was just opportunistic, is all it was.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Yeah, great word, opportunistic.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Look at you Because it's like if Boots was at 147
before that, you could have hadthe fight, Barrios could have
had the fight.
You know Boots wouldn't haveturned down either one of those.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
But I will say, I will say like, based off this
performance and the way thatNorman won, I'm all for a
Boots-Norman fight at 147 now,based off how he solidified
himself here.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
I want to see him fight again.
For sure I don't want to say Idon't want him to lose so I can
be like, oh, I told you.
No, I like watching him fight.
He's entertaining, he's gotpower.
I want to see him fight again.
He's on top rank.
Barrios is on PBC.
They're not going to.
That's not a huge fight thatthey're going to make into a

(38:04):
crossover, especially with PBC.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Wait Barrios.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
What do you mean?
Because he's another championat 147.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Oh yeah, yeah, I don't know.
I don't know what's going onwith the Barrios thing.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Well, I like I love Mario.
Well, I like I love mariobarrios, like, and I know the
dude, but like, let's be honest,he, he beat ugas in a really
good fight, yeah.
And then he fought my donna'slittle brother and he's like I
was swollen after the fight androhan palanco just ran through
that guy, yeah.
And then he fought abel ramos,went life and death with ramos,
who hadn't fought since thatBenavidez plant card and lost.
And he went life and death withAbel Ramos and now he's.

(38:42):
I just feel like PBC knows like.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
He's getting paid.
He's fighting Pacquiao.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
He's getting yeah, they're getting him big fights
because he's a world titleholder, but they know he, like
he, probably can't beat mostguys in the top 10, let alone
the top five.
But then it hurts to saybecause, like I said, I really
like the dude and I don't wantpeople think I'm shitting on him
because he is talented but justthe reality of the situation is
like I don't know, like normanand boots wouldn't have gone

(39:12):
live for death with abel ramos,I don't think, and I don't think
they would have gone live fordeath with my donna, neither.
No, not that Maidana.
I think what they're trying toset up is they're trying to set
up Barrios versus Rowley at 147on the PBC side.
They're not even going toentertain a Norman fight.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Or Pacquiao versus Rowley.
Think of the numbers.
That does.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
If Pacquiao wins the title, he ain't going to fight.
I don't know who he would fightnext.
I don't think Roley would bedisrespectful to Pacquiao and
talk shit.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
I don't think he would I don't know, man Roley's
a wild card, though you neverknow.
He rolled the dice with Roley.
Is that an air ball again or no?

Speaker 1 (39:50):
No, no, especially if it's coming off of the Ryan win
.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah, ooh, that might be a shirt, cause he's from
Vegas.
Roll the dice with Rolly.
Yeah, but he's, he's with umSLA, so they make all his shirts
oh okay, uh, yeah, well, uh, ifyou didn't know, punchlines is
in the shirt business and oh,and I mentioned his name earlier
, Rohan.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
That's why I wish Willie was here.
I know, dude, we're making.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Polanco shirts.
That's Willie's guy.
Dude, that's Willie's guy.
I really hope Willie's.
Okay, this is not like him, butyeah, keep it moving.
Brian Norman Jr man, he'sarrived and you know what he did
too, which I liked and I kindof alluded to it earlier when we
started this segment on him.
Was he made people have towatch this?

(40:37):
Like, started this segment onhim, was he?
He made people have to watchthis?
Like we all had to go back andnow watch this because he took
over the internet.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
He stole.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
It went viral on every outlet, every sports
outlet.
It was probably knockout of theyear so far.
Definitely, this is easily sofar.
Yeah, there's still some andthat guy wasn't like a nobody
he's.
He's in like top 15, top 10.
It wasn't like he knocked out anobody at all.
You know what I mean?
yeah, yeah, he, he wasn'tknocking out guys that people
make fun of boots for fightingyeah he, he knocked out a

(41:05):
somebody, just not big in theamerican market, but props to
him, knocked him out bad dude,very bad, and also to work
prayers up for that guy, but hecan't remember shit yeah, that's
another thing that went outthat you gotta mention that who
like if?
if someone on my team like,right, I get, say me and you
fight and you knock the shit outof me, right, and like someone

(41:27):
from my camp or my team leaksthat I can't remember anything,
I'm gonna last six weeks of yourlife I'm gonna be so upset with
you guys.
I'm going viral for gettingknocked the fuck out.
Someone's getting fired andthey deserve it.
Whoever did that's an asshole.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Yeah, I feel I don't know, because it's not like a
doctor can do that.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
How many Brian Norman Jr fans are they in Japan?
This dude got knocked out.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
How many are there in America?

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Yeah, but you know what I mean.
That's not a shot at him, that'sjust being no yeah, like the
south and georgia is probablyhis, his biggest fan base,
obviously.
But like why?
Why in the world would someoneleak?
That's like like I don't know Idon't know a good analogy for
it, but like me getting knockedout cold at yankee stadium and
then all all my friends leakingthat I can't remember six, six

(42:14):
months of my life or whatever itwas.
Yeah, leaking that out as as mymemory's finally coming back,
yeah, I think he fuckedsomeone's girl in his crew for
sure, right, like what the fuck?
fuck that guy, whoever did that.
Um, prayers up for fucking saketoo.
Yeah, that's nuts.
Yeah, sake and willie are inour prayers today.

(42:35):
We're very religious show today.
Uh, yeah, brian norman jr man,good weight class, I guess.
A good weight class who, whoknows?
No, not now it's an okay weightclass.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Everybody moved up all the top guys that we wanted
to see fight each other moved upI actually posted something
about it.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
The shirts that the guy you just signed, polanco
right?
I want to see that fightbecause they both have power in
both hands.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Polanco and Norman.
Yeah, Is Polanco at 47 or 40?
For some reason.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
I thought he was at 40.
, 47.
Oh yeah, he's coming up thenand they both kind of have a
similar style like not slowerpace, Like I want to see that
fight.
They both get hit a little bitmore than they should.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
Nasty on the inside.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Yeah, that's.
That's a great fight to make.
Ones with top rank, the otheris not.
But I know, paul, they're bothwith top rank.
Oh shit, you're right, I was inJapan.
They are both with top dude.
That's the fight to make.
Easy fight to make.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
If cause the 26th on that Shushu and Zayas card, if
he can show out there.
Yeah, he's got a good followingtoo.
He's got 40,000 Instagramfollowers.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Dude, the Dominican Republic, Polanco.
In boxing, especially Polanco,is just style-wise.
That's a great fight to me.
Again, who knows what couldhappen?
Who knows what's going tohappen?
This is boxing, and this isfucking.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
Yeah, bro, and like remember what you were saying
about how your amateur pedigreedoesn't really matter to you all
that much.
On saturday, before those toprank cards started, there was
that da zone card and highlydecorated amateur Gualia Fi got
fucking upset.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Yeah, he fucked up my parlay too.
He was a minus 400.
I had a fucking Sorry.
Now you got me going.
I had a fucking 15-fight parlay, right and I do?

Speaker 1 (44:33):
How can you call yourself an experienced gambler
and bet on a Brit to beat?

Speaker 2 (44:38):
a Mexican I know.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
It just doesn't happen.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Yeah, especially in England.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
Yeah, when they're the heavy favorite, it doesn't
go well.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
You're 110% right.
I should have thought that, butI'm like yo minus 400?
.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
I even made a joke about it.
Before the fight A guy asked meyou watching the Yafai fight?
I'm like, nah, I'm going to beat the gym and doing yard work
and stuff.
I'm going to be following it,though you think he wins.
I was like I don't know, he'sfighting a Mexican.
He might get knocked out.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
It's always the case.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
He didn't get knocked out, but he lost.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
It's always the fucking case there.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
He almost got knocked out too.
He got hurt bad in that 12thround.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Something tells me, eddie does it on purpose to sign
more Mexicans.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
It's got to be hard.
It's got to be hard, or just toattract their fan base.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Yeah, it's got to be some kind of conspiracy scam,
because dude time and time again.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Time and time again, mauricio Lara's knocked out like
three of them.
Yep Andy Ruiz Munguia knockedout Ryder.
Canelo knocked out Billy JoeSaunders.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
Canelo don't really count to me, but yeah, he's
Mexican, but he's not realMexican.
What We'll get there, we'll getthere.
I'm just being stupid.
He's Mexican before I getroasted.
But um, oh man, don't go peepeeagain no he just runs around
under their feet uh, yeah, thatthat's really it for brian

(46:10):
norman jr.
Um, and the zone card.
Yeah, the zone card.
I honestly I didn't catch theentire zone card because I mean
either I only watched the lasthalf of that main event and, and
I will tell you why because thethe middle of the day stuff and
there is fights on there Iwanted to see.
But the middle of the day stuff, you know it, it it kind of

(46:31):
sucks for american marketsbecause, yeah, saturday nights
are perfect, you know, like ifyou don't want to go out, my
wife doesn't want me to go out,it's perfect.
Okay, I'll just stay in andwatch boxing on my laptop and
you could watch your rom-com.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's actually like themiddle of the day stuff doesn't
work out good, and I'm going toallude to why I keep saying that
.
And at the, the back half,Canelo and.

(46:56):
Crawford Middle of the day stuff.
Remember that Locked, loaded,we're in there.
What was it in the middle ofthe day?
You had anything you wanted tosay on the DAZN card?
Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
That's the only fight I even wanted to talk about.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
That one dude.
I had a 15 fight or 12 fight, Iforget what it was.
Parlay Most of them.
I think there was one thatwasn't a favorite in there.
I forget who it was.
I think it might have been likesomeone to go decision or
distance and it did, and theonly one that fucked me up was
that fight.
I was like God damn.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
Yeah, you're dumb for doing that, bro.
You fucked up.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
It was quick.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
It was a quick, quick bet.
Oh never pick a favoriteagainst a mexican in england.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
In england, what happened?

Speaker 1 (47:45):
I don't know you for yeah, you're back, we're good
were you at that whole top rankcard on saturday you watched
every fight.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Uh, yeah, not, yeah, we got there pretty, we got
there pretty early.
Yeah, uh, we missed like one,maybe one fight so you watched
the brandon lee fight oh, yeah,yeah, uh.
The only fights I missed thatwere like three local dudes
before brandon lee and the onekid I wanted to see from
brooklyn um, I forget hisfucking name, but he's like

(48:11):
three or four and oh no.
But yeah, I did watch brandonlee.
I forgot he was on the cardactually yeah, they didn't even
promote him bro.
I was surprised, I think I and Isaid this to.
I have a funny story, too,about who I met there, but I
said this to one of my friendsthat happened to be there.
I was like yo, I forgot brandonlee was on this card.
And then I I saw him fightingand the guy he fought, he should

(48:33):
have got the fuck out of there,and I see why they're not
promoting him like like theyshould, wasn't he with?

Speaker 1 (48:38):
pbc too, was he?
Oh yeah, and they were pushinghim.
He was getting like call me anyevents and shit.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
I I literally said I was like what happened to him?
I thought he was, so I lookedat his box wreck and he's not a
knockout puncher he's not, he'sgot like over 30 fights he's.
He's not a knockout guy, manhe's.
And and this guy he fought.
He should have got him out ofthere.
He won.
Clearly the guy did fake like alow blow and took the full five

(49:04):
minutes, which was fun likeI've.
I've never been in a fightwhere the guy takes the full
five minutes and like he wasgetting screamed at like I was
screaming.
He doesn't even have balls,what the like?
We're all going crazy.
So that that was cool.
But brandon lee should have gotthat guy out of there and he
didn't.
And then it it hit me after.
I was like that.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
This is why brandon lee isn't really a draw well,
because he had that one fightand he got dropped bad, he
almost got knocked out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he won thatfight, though, right, yeah, he,
he hasn't lost.
But then he got another fightagainst uh um, damn, I can't
think of his name the last guythat TO knocked out TO's first
fight at 140.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Pedro Campa, campa, whatever, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
Yeah, brandon Lee fought him and won a very
controversial split decision.
People thought the other dudeshould have won, so I remember
he just faded out.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
I looked it up too.
He fought Zachary Ochoa becauseI looked it up when I was there
.
I was like what happened toBrandon Lee.
Like and how did I not know?
He does not have power and hedoesn't have.
It looks to me it looks like hedoesn't have that like drive
you know, even trying to buildhim that British market, he
signed.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
He signed with Queensbury over there, so he's
been everywhere, or it waseither Queensberry or those
brothers, I can't remember hisname.
And then he came back, top Rankjust signed him, but they
didn't give him an ounce ofpromotion.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
I had no idea he was on the card until I was in there
.
I'm like Brandon Lee's on thiscard I had no idea and he has
like over 200,000 followers.
He's a popular dude on socialmedia.
I remember when he started, itwas like in his garage or
whatever, and I was like, oh,this is awesome, his dad.

(50:43):
And it reminded me like ryangarcia, like ryan garcia started
like in his garage and I waslike this is kind of cool.
And then pbc was pushing himhard and then he just kind of
disappeared.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
Well, I had trainers tell me before that his dad's
the problem.
Okay, that could be it.
They don't think they're likehe's trained brandon as well as
he can.
Uh-huh, like they think heneeds to get a better trainer
somebody who's trained at thislevel before, because his dad
just doesn't do, I guess,doesn't know a lot.
I don't know.
I've never watched him train.

(51:08):
I've never.
I haven't watched enoughbrandon lee fights to know how
he does in the corner.
But I know he has over.
He has around 30 fights and hehasn't and he hasn't stepped up
at all in the last five or sixof them.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
And since this is my first time seeing him live two
rows back or three rows back,whatever it was, and everybody
was like he's got to get him outof there, like you've got to
get this guy out of there.
He was landing at will.
He also doesn't throw enough.
Oh was he just staring yeah, hesets shots up and, like he
didn't get hit much, everythingwas there for him to take and

(51:42):
that's what I mean.
He doesn't have that like gritkiller instinct, that second
year he's missing, likesomething he's missing yeah and
I'm not even saying you got togo out there and always be like
a killer.
It's good to be patient, buthe's missing, like just.
He doesn't have the power, hedoesn't't have the dog.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Yeah, but guys that get promoted like they're a top
fighter in that weight class,knock guys like that out.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
And after the five-minute thing the guy took
five minutes I was like, oh,he's going to go, he's going to
go, and you know what?

Speaker 1 (52:07):
I'm glad I didn't see that or know that he was going
to go because I would have puthim in, you know be something,
even if he gets his ass beatlike he is a name, though.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
So I, I, literally when we walked in this is kind
of funny, it's not off topic,Cause it was at the fight so
Willie told me he can't go tothe fights, right?
So I was like all right, we're,we're big team, jahai guys, you
can see the shirt, we're goingto get there.
So Willie said he can't go.
I'm like all right, cool.
I asked my friend Jamal.
Jamal was like last minute, Ican't go, so I was going to just

(52:44):
go by myself.
The fights the top-ranked cardwe're talking about was in
Newark, new Jersey.
I don't like going to NewJersey.
Newark makes ghettos in NewYork and like hoods in New York
look, look, very, very PG.
Like Newark driving intoPrudential Center.

(53:04):
I'm like yo, what?

Speaker 1 (53:04):
are we right now?
Newark sketch.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Like, like and and listen.
Every, every ghetto has got ahood.
Every hood's got a ghetto.
There's sketchy areas in everyfucking state.
Bro, newark was fucking insanedude.
There is, you know, like likein New york.
There's always the hipsterswalking around yeah, newark,
don't got that dude, newark wasfucking just brick fucking city
bro newark's got motherfuckersyelling at nobody like brick

(53:30):
city dude?

Speaker 1 (53:31):
yeah, and I looked at my wife and I'm like all right,
yeah, let's, let's take ourlittle white asses down this
road that whole part of thestate, too, is shady as fuck and
it's gross and it's like itsmells like shit yeah, dude,
yeah dude.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
It's like it's like industrial too, like like
they're abandoned industrialbuildings that are still smoking
.
So I'm like what is going onover here?

Speaker 1 (53:51):
then it just constantly smells like sewage,
fucking marsh garbage, very,very.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
But prudential center was nice, I'll give them that
that was a good little spot.
Parking was easy, everythingwas good.
So I had to buy my wife aticket last minute because she
was like, fine, I'll go.
And I'm like, oh, thank you, Ijust don't want to drive alone,
you know.
I mean, I was willing to goalone.
I knew some people that weregoing to be there.
Cool, last minute, she, I buyher a ticket.
I'm seat seven, she's seat nineon the floor.

(54:18):
I'm like yo, somebody's gonnabe in between us, so we get
there.
Yo, it's a dude.
I know from like the fights atthe hulu.
I see him at all the fights hehe has.
He actually wanted a fuckingjahai shirt.
He's a good dude, bro.
I see him all the time and yo,he goes.
Yo, yeah, that's mad funny.
He's like I bought this seat onpurpose because I knew somebody
, somebody would I, I was goingto fuck somebody up.

(54:40):
I was like, yeah, it was me.
Man, it was funny, though I waslike this fucking guy.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
That's funny as fuck.
Yeah, yeah, good dude, gooddude.
I'd be mad as shit, dude.
Imagine if you just startedhitting on your wife the whole
time.
Yeah, like this was fake girl.
Yeah, or she left with him.
Oh god, that'd be even worse.
I'm leaving with lysol fuckingfrom chapelle.
Show you know what I'm talkingabout I'm gonna stay.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
I miss the old chapelle show so much, it's so
great, but uh, yeah, it was agood card.
You could tell, though, that,like, top rank and espn are on
their way out.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
They're just filling spots now oh yeah, they're doing
what pbc did on fox.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Yeah, you started getting like the bryant perella,
tony harrison, main events andshit and, just by the production
, my wife, actually, speaking ofher, she loved it because she
was like, oh, this is flyingthrough, dude.
There was like three knockoutsright like early in the and you
know how usually there's a lotof downtime.
Then there was not a lot ofdowntime.
I went to get beers.
Twice I had to run back for twofights.
I wanted to see Jahai Tuckerand Damian Knieba, the

(55:45):
heavyweight.
I had to run back to my seatlike shit, I can't get a beer.
I got to run back.
They started it.
What the fuck?

Speaker 1 (55:50):
It was crazy and the commentator crew was not the
normal crew.
This people is holly and raulmarquez and then I can't
remember lady's name.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Oh, um, I know.
Uh, it's with a c.
Uh, I forget her name too.
She's awesome, though she'sactually all right.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
She's usually on the she's yeah they weren't bad, but
it was just zero of thechristina poncher, christina,
yeah and then I don't know whothe fuck that was doing the
interviews in the ring the guythat looked like gary oldman
from the fifth element and youfucking have.
You said dude, no, not theheavy set, dude, the guy with

(56:27):
the weird like beard and he waswearing yeah, yeah, yeah I saw
him too.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
I saw him.
Who the fuck was that dude?
Yo, I will say this though uh,before we get into, honestly,
the only fight I really want totalk about here is I guess we
could talk about the heavyweightfight that happened, but
obviously jahai tucker, but thecrowd, bro, the jersey sleaze
balls were out for veto, likethere was.
There was fights in the crowdall night in the crowd.

(56:53):
It wasn't a big crowd and itwas these like older italian
dudes with like flashy clotheson, like it was insane, like
legit motherfucker, likegabagoons, like legit fights,
like we're watching, like andyou know, I've seen fights at
fights in the crowd all the time.
I've been involved in some andI'm looking, I'm like dude.
This is weird seeing these likeold white dudes throwing down

(57:15):
these old italian white dudes,like old, old dudes, but they
were it's a bunch of polywalnuts running around like no,
no, dude, seriously, and likeflashy ass, like button-ups that
nobody would wear.
I'm like, holy shit, vito reallybrought up the italianos.
Good for him like oh, you'reitalian dude I'm talking like
jet black hair gel, like gelthat you could skate a tech deck

(57:38):
on.
If you don't know what a techdeck is, it's a skateboard, like
it was funny, dude, but um,yeah, it, it was just very
rushed and prudential center wascool it.
They just they had like nolights on right and it was just
these weird like basement lightson the ring yeah, dude, and a
fucking the tiniest ring I thinkI've ever seen, ever everybody,

(58:00):
everybody maybe the suit whentim zu fought tony harrison.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
That ring was small as shit, but it might be the
same size.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
It was so small dude, that ring was fucking tiny and
it looks like something you getfor a kid's birthday party.
So so, right away, I, we satdown and again, I'm friends with
Jahai Tucker, that's my guy soI went there specifically for
him.
I go oh shit, they clearly wantVito to get a knockout.

(58:30):
That's the first thing Ithought.
They want to ride with thatItaliano, you know what I'm
saying.
So they want Vito to get aknockout.
And the second thing I thoughtwas you know, some people said
Jahai was in a 50-50 fightbefore it started.
So I'm like, oh shit, that's asmall ring, jahai's a mover,
he's slick.
I'm like, fuck, this is, thisis not, this is not going well,

(58:53):
uh.
But and then, dude, theheavyweights got in.
Right, damien Knieba versuswhatever the other Polish guy's
name was, who?

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
That guy was fucking scary looking, yeah, but he
could not box.
For shit.
Nothing, nothing at all, dude,nothing.
But yo people were saying like,oh, I don't know, I don't know
if they were real boxing fans ornot, but they're screaming at
Damien right, knock him out, dothis, do that.
And I'm like bro, this dude isa brute.
He looked like a polish sausage, like if a polish swallowed a

(59:23):
fucking football.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
if a kilbasi was a person, it's that guy, yeah dude
and you're not knocking thatguy out like that guy's not
falling like you know, wheneverthey show like the stereotypical
, like right, like alt-rightmilitias and it's guys like
bench pressing like car enginesyeah, that's him, that guy car
engine on each fucking side of afence post benching it and like
just looked like a menace.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Apparently he's a nice guy.
I've talked to somebody thatknew him, but I'm like dude, I
would not talk to that guy everin my life no, dude, not unless
I was like in prison and he'slike yo you want.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
you want to be in my gang?

Speaker 2 (59:57):
Yes, and, and right now I mean BoxRec's rankings
have Damien Kaniba or Niba atnumber one.
And the only reason really Ilike that guy.
He used to live like down theroad from me, literally.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
What do you mean?

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
number one Number one in what In their like Polish
rankings.
So, like you know, you know howBoxRec does that They'll rank
them.
How box rec does that they'llreally rank like, which is kind
of cool.
I kind of like that, um,whether you agree with their
ranking system or not, andsometimes I I usually don't, but
it was cool to see he's numberone in the polish rankings now,
so good for him.
You know, and, and you know hedid win, he got the stoppage.
I I think he needs to clean itup a little bit, but a lot of

(01:00:31):
people don't know this.
He in his team or his, his uhstable is zhang zhalai zhang, so
I knew he could take I knew hecould take a shot because we
know zhang could pop and um histrainers, uh, sean george who,
who used to fight back in thedays, he's a really good trainer
.
He's got a stable with him andzhang and you know he's moving
his way up and again.

(01:00:52):
The point I'm making was, youknow, nobody really cared for
this fight, but I did hear thatthe last time he fought at
prudential center it was loadedwith polish people.
It was like someone told me thatholes come out bro, yeah, and
they really yeah, yeah, dude,they really didn't for this
fight.
They didn't come out so crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
Because they like, because kalnacki used to fight
from out there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Yeah, that's so.
I've been to like two kalnaskifights and dude it was, it was
fucking poland, it was polandand he, he didn't have a belt,
he was, so I I was kind ofexpecting that, and and someone
they didn't show up this timethough, so but hey, whatever, uh
, he, he just looked.
They looked so big in that ring, dude, so big, and he looks

(01:01:34):
giant especially like it lookedlike he was fighting in a urinal
and he his balls, his balls.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
That me, oh god, dude .
There was a comedy club that itwas like it was high as fuck
bro, I had to like stand on mytippy toes to piss in it isn't
that the word.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
But then it gets weird too when it's low, because
it's like oh dude, then itbounces back on your fucking
shins and you're like am I inthe right bathroom?
Like what's on.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
I felt like every movie theater had a fucking
urinal that went all the waydown to the floor.
I hated those things.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
And you forget, though, like little kids go to
movies a lot more than adults,in a sense.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
Still, bro yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Go to the fucking stall and little shits, but uh,
then you know, um, Then you know, I guess, yeah, we could just
get right into the Jahai Tuckerstuff.
This was the most, and I almostI don't want to say I felt bad
for Vito.
But right off the gate, theminute the first press
conference happened, it was theJahai Tucker-Lorenzo
Truck-Simpson show.

(01:02:29):
I do wish that ESPN and or Iguess, Top Rank, marketed this
fight a little more, a littlebetter, because these are two
guys that only the real boxingfans know.
You know, Right, Unless you'refrom the local, wherever they're
from Baltimore and Long Island,New York.
If you're not in that scene andyou're from, like, the Midwest

(01:02:50):
and you're just a casual boxingfan, you don't really know who
these guys are.
You may have seen them on a fewother cards, but you don't know
who they are.
So I I do wish top rank tookthat, because you could tell,
even even christina poncher andthe top rank crew at the press
conference were like shocked atthe animosity between one
another.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
Yeah, there's history to it.
I felt like it could have donea story on it and they've kind
of dropped the ball on that afew times, yeah, like when troy
icely and javi martinez foughtthey gave that fight no
attention and that that is theproblem.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
You, you make the fights better when you.
You grab people's attention.
That not us.
We're gonna watch every stupidfight maybe not a 1 pm to zone
card.
We're gonna watch every stupidfight we could and it's like you
need to grab our attention.
Grab our fucking attention andand let us help you get the
other people.
You know what I mean and notjust that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
Look at what the UFC does Like when they get fights.
You'll get two unranked guys ontheir way up.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
Yeah, yeah, they do a five-minute fucking interview.
That's it.
That's all you need.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
But then now even the guy that loses, you kind of
have a connection with him, youwant to see him fight again
usually it takes one sound bitefor someone to love you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Like, oh, I like that guy.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
And then to watch a fight, because the Jahai fight,
the Jahai truck fight.
That was a great fight, fucking, amazing, thoroughly enjoyable.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
And there was no knockdowns.
That's when boxing is great tome, when it's a great fight,
like to like to be a great fight.
You don't need a guy gettingknocked down every time or you
knocking me down, me knockingyou down like that doesn't
always make a great fight.
Tyson fury, deontay wilder won.
It doesn't always have to belike that.
Yeah, this was a great fightbecause fucking two talented,

(01:04:29):
young, hungry dudes with a realdislike, a backstory that only
we would know.
But a backstory, this was likea wwe type shit.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
You know they could have built that shit up and then
a city rivalry too, becausethat's a big part of these guys,
both maryland, baltimoremaryland and and new york.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
Yeah, that it was this.
This whole beef, I think,started, I don't know.
They sparred once but then,like something happened with,
like I think lorenzo was talkingabout jahai's like fake jewelry
and jahai has like a jahai hasa legit jeweler in new york.
So like then they started justtalking back and forth and then
that's okay it is, it is.
But then lorenzo lorenzo postedlike uh, um, a picture of jahai

(01:05:12):
like touching his toes, likewalking back to the corner in a
sparring match.
So jahai was like yo, yo, fuck,you fight me, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah.
And then other fighters in thatlevel chimed in and it was like
it was cool.
You could have talked about allthat.
Like, think of the storyline,you could have ran with that.
But just because it's not abelt doesn't mean it's not a
good fight, you know, yeah, orjust because the guys aren yet

(01:05:39):
like, you can make them popularnow, a hundred percent and dude.
So now we'll get into the fightitself.
Both of their styles I'm goingto speak specifically on jahai's
like jahai's style of fightingis, is what you want to promote.
The guy's elusive but gets hit.
He, he has dog in him and I'mgoing to talk more about that as
we get rolling here but he'sfun to watch, he, he, he
entertains the crowd.
He's entertaining, entertainingwithout knockouts.

(01:05:59):
That's what you want, right,and?
And that you can't really teach, that, in a sense.
And he's elusive, but he comesto fight, so, so I was going to
get into that.
What I mean?
Just give me your take on thefight first, cause you know I'm
going to go off the rails.
But first off, let me just askyou this Did you see?
yeah, hell yeah, I was stoked Idon't know which way I'm top

(01:06:20):
rank, even posted a picture ofhim wearing it too, and and you
know.
So I'm gonna be honest and Iknow you're gonna go with me
here.
At first, when jihai came toyou and was like, yeah, this is
what I want, game seven, blah,blah, blah, we were like I don't
know what he means by gameseven, but whatever, uh, let's
talk like.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
I got it, but I just didn't think it was the right
way to go I got the idea of likegame seven.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
You want to fight for your life, of course, but then
I'm like whatever.
And then it turns out like thenext day was game seven of the
nba finals.
So it like worked out perfect.
It couldn't have been any moreperfect.
So all the stars aligned onthat one.
But yeah, well, what'd youthink of the fight itself?

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
just give me your take and then I'll go off so
it's like I was familiar withjahai already not as much as you
so it's like his style.
He gets a lot of flack for itbecause there's a lot of holes,
but he also finds a way to makeit work at the same time.
Yeah, but early on what he wasdoing, because trucks of
southpaw, the way he was turninghim and like jumping on ink,

(01:07:15):
like shifting real quick andthen either throwing the jab or
the straight right, I was like,damn bro, like this is like he's
not just fighting, like there'slike like he actually like
studied and trained for thisshit.
Yeah.
So I was really stoked aboutthat.
But you know, truck, uh,truck's good bro, like he's got.
He's a little slower like hisfight pace.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
I don't mean he himself is slow, I don't I just
remember that, remember what youjust said, because I'm going to
speak on that too.
Just remember that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
All right, keep going sorry, yeah, I, I just think he
fights at a pace that he likesto fight at and I was talking
about it in a group chat andgeorge garcia elijah garcia's
dad, another middleweightcontender he's talking about yo
Trucks fought like that since hewas an amateur.
So I was like, huh, he justhasn't adapted yet, but he was

(01:08:06):
landing a lot of shots andbecause he throws punches, I
guess more technically soundthan Jahai does, his punches
would stand out, I guess.
And he was wearing yellow, soit was like really bright, you
notice it more?

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
Yeah, yeah, but Jahai was clearly outworking him and
I saw that too.
Like the, you actually textedme while we were there, not the
miss ham convo, but you.
You were like you're like yo,uh, you're like yo.
These these rounds in thebeginning are like hard to score
, and they were.
They were hard to score, evenringside.
I was like, oh man, he, he's,jahai, is out working, but the

(01:08:39):
cleaner shots appear to belanded by Lorenzo.
So I was like, damn dude, thisis going to be a good fight
already.
But one thing I like about Jahaiand that he doesn't get a lot
of credit for two thingsactually, but they tie together
is one his resume, dude, hefights the guys and I've said it
before before, but he fightsthe guys that nobody wants to

(01:09:01):
fight.
Like nobody wants to fightthese eastern european dudes.
That that that people know insparring and he gets cracked by
them.
Right, he does get hit.
Jahai does get hit.
Yeah, but jahai has somethingyou can't teach.
Like, usually you hit somebodyright or you touch a hot stove.
You never want to touch thathot stove again, right, when you

(01:09:21):
, when you hit Jahai, heresponds and his response is
fuck you, motherfucker, I'mcoming.
And he throws more punches.
He gets more active.
Yeah, it's fun to watch, it'ssuper fun to watch, it's amazing
to watch and you can't teachthat Like as humans we're
supposed to.
Like cower, you know, and ithappens.

(01:09:42):
You know, I'm not saying he'sthe toughest boxer alive, but he
just has that dog in him where,like you, cannot you hit him
and that's why he won a lot ofthe rounds.
It wasn't like Lorenzo did badJahai just would get hit cleanly
and respond Like he wouldrespond instantly almost.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
And another thing that makes him fun to watch is
because, dude, he leaves hischin up in the fucking air bro,
so it's like it's 10, like whenyou're going for him because I
was going for him.
It's tense to watch becauseit's like, fuck dude, yeah, if
he gets hit with a clean shotlike this, could be fights over,
bro.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
That's how much his chin is in the air all the time
and then he'll bait you with itlike he's baiting you with his
chin is in the air all the timeand then he'll bait you with it
Like he's baiting you with hischin, Like he looks at you, he's
putting it there and again Iagree, I'm like oh fuck, oh fuck
.
But then you know he does makea miss.
But when you do leave your chinthere, like that right, Like he
does I'm just solely talkingabout him, not everybody, buddy

(01:10:37):
He'll bait you with his chinright when you miss, when he
makes a miss, then, bro, theylike spin.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
It's like a he's good at it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
It's just a wiffle ball, miss Like and he does get
hit.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
He does get hit, but but then he's got really good
defense on the inside when heputs up his like that old school
style Philly shell, he's likeslapping it away.
He's rolling with shit, likethat's what I said too.
It reminded me of an old schoolfight in the 50s or 60s, when
guys who were 22 and 5, 24 and 9.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Someone posted why does this look like a 1980s
fight?
I think I responded it was arandom Instagram post.
I think I responded, I don'tknow.
I thought it.
I was like isn't that what youwant?
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
That's awesome.
Even the style clash too.
Jahai has an old school stylealmost the way he blocks, like
that and everything Because it'snot what the Philly shell is
now.
It's what it used to be.
That's how he blocks.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
When Jahai fought that Eastern European guy I'm
thinking of.
I forget his name, it's hard tosay anyway, but he's in there,
the one he lost to.
No, no, no, he lost to Flaco.
He's a hispanic.
No, no, the eastern europeanguy that that he, um, he had a
draw with uh veron and then he,he had this eastern european guy

(01:11:50):
who he took jahai talked shitto like xander's eyes, like he
went to the press conferenceonce and like top rank, like fed
.
Jahai, like all xander's eyesis, is like camp, and this
Eastern European guy was likeLike Xander Zayas is like Lead
sparring partner and dude.
This dude I never really heardof him.
He could fuck.

(01:12:10):
He's Eastern European, that'sall I have to say.
Yeah, he could take a hit andhe could fucking crack.
I my whole perception Of Jahaichanged.
This dude cracked Jahai rightand the punch he hit him with
was so clean jihai got stunned.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
I'm not saying he wasn't just if I really got like
rock and it's like stumbling alittle bit, he got it and then
he, he like shook it off andjust came like a rapid dog bro,
like it was.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
It was insane and and it actually helped him in a
sense.
And when I saw that I was like,all right, I I think he could
take a hit and he doesn't getenough credit for that like he
could take a fucking hit.
I'm not saying you shouldalways take hits, but his chin,
his chin is fucking good.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
He's got whiskers yeah, I don't think he gets
discredited for his chin.
I just think he getsdiscredited more for the fact
that he gets hit a lot yeah, I'mtalking solely more about Tim
Bradley.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
Tim Bradley loves to roast Jahai.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
No, these announcers were all about him.
They brought up.
They're like, yeah, he leaveshis chin out there.
They're like he does a lot ofthings you shouldn't do, but he
does a lot of things you shoulddo.
And they were talking abouthe's out Every time.
They said exactly what you saidEvery time.
They said exactly what you saidevery time.
Lorenzo would land.
Jahai would answer Every time.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
And I'd even rewatch it.
Look at that.
I'm right on par.
Good for me.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
No, you said that to me during the fight.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
You texted me that Jahai keeps answering yeah, and
he was and I'm not sayingeverything landed, but he'd get
hit with a clean shot and I'd belike, oh fuck.
And then he'd answer but listen, um, they're still very young
too, dude.
I think he, he, they're noteven 25.
Yet, like you know, and, and,and now I'm going to talk about

(01:13:48):
lorenzo, like I don't think it'sover for him, he's, he's not no
, but I think I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
I don't know if he needs to change trainer.
Oh, my goodness, the exact sameway you took the words.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
You took the words right out of my mouth.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
That's what I was gonna gonna speak on, like the
only it's like is it a trainerproblem or is it a mentality
problem?

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
but let me ask you something who really, besides
for, obviously, tank davis right, who is calvin ford, like known
for in this?

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
nobody, just truck.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
Truck was supposed to be the next guy and and whose
style that we just watched, andobviously you know who the
answer is fought a lot in thesame style as somebody we know
named, named tank yeah, well, he, he fights a lot like tank, and
then there's some parts wherehe fights a lot like arrow too
yeah, okay, but like the, theslow pace that the um, what's it

(01:14:40):
called?
The uh um, the counter, thecounter like the one.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
And then he likes to like paw with the jab like that
and come with weird angles withthat left.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
He's like he threw an uppercut right and you know how
, like sometimes people whip anuppercut, like they wind it up.
Tank does that shit all thetime, but it's tank, it lands.
So he did that once and I'm like, dude, that looks a lot like
tank and I started yelling he'stank's friend, he's not tank,
he's tank's friend, he's notyeah and I was like dude and and
I I'm not putting the fullblame on calvin ford, you know

(01:15:11):
this guy knows more about boxingthan I ever will but it they're
not all tank, not everybody'stank.
And you could say the samething about eddie reynolds.
A lot of his fighters have thesame style as this new version
of canelo.
Right, they're not all canelos,they're not all tanks.
You got to switch it up and hefought to me, seeing it in
person, style, wise, like tank,like, don't it?

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
just it was funny also his other two losses.
The same exact reasons he lostthose fight were the same exact
reasons he lost this fight,uh-huh.
So didn't go enough, gotoutworked.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
Yeah, didn't hit a second gear and you know, and in
his defense in this fight, likeit wasn't, like like jahai
isn't the biggest power puncherat this weight class, he's at
160, he, he wasn't really hurt.
It didn't look like lorenzoever was like in pain or hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
There was one time I thought he did, I can't remember
.
It was in the second half ofthe fight.
Jahai got him in the corner.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
Yeah, I was going to say.
In the corner, he hit him witha three-hook combo.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
Lorenzo was sinking down.
I thought he was hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
Yeah, but okay, that's it then ever like.
So I don't know, I I justsometimes and jahai did hit him
with a like a right.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
His back was on the ropes and he hit I want to say
it was a right straight,right-handed tucker and, like
tucker's head, snapped backpretty like no, yeah, yeah there
was like an uppercut too.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
But like with with uh jahai style, he's gonna get
those looks.
Like he, he doesn't have a lotof pop at 160.
That's the only real, otherthan the flaws everyone talks
about, like the chin blah, blah,blah.
The biggest thing is the pop at160.
But he, his, his work ethichelps him with that.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
Like yeah, like I told you, I'd want to see him
fight javi martinez.
Yeah, yeah, that'd be a fuckingbanger.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
It's a good fight and he dude, he takes no ducks.
But, like I said, there's likethis weird circle now and again
him and Troy Isley.
I think that would be a coolfight.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
Yeah, I think Troy is a little farther ahead of him
though.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
Yeah, they're friends .
I know they're friends.
I think they've sparred beforetoo.
They probably have.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
They know each other from the amateur circuit, I just
think, in their professionalcareers.
In terms of development, Ithink Troy is a little bit ahead
of him right now and the sky'sthe limit.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
Still, jahai is so young, bro, yeah, so young.
It's crazy to me, bro, butwhatever you know, again, I
don't think it's over forLorenzo.
Maybe he needs it, and I knowit's hard.
They're both from Baltimore.
Listen Tank was tweeting aboutJahai like twank twank Tank's.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
Tank's.
It's probably comfortable forhim to train with Calvin.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
He's probably comfortable, yeah, but like you
don't want comfortable in boxing, no, but that's what I'm saying
, like do you want to be a staror do you want to be a boxing
champion?

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
Yeah, I'm sorry he had like the only fans, like I
guess they pay out a lot ofmoney.
Yeah, lot of money.
Yeah, well, don't get mestarted.
What what you want only fans?
No, I, I have no, anyway, uh,but yeah, you know, it was cool
to see.
I mean props to jahai, that'smy guy oh, bro, jahai's the bro.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
Yeah, he's sick.
It was a great fight.
It was an awesome fight bro, helike he.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
He came out after like and mingled with the fans a
little bit.
You know, I ran over there andfanboyed and gave me a.
I got his sweat all over me.
Yeah, it was awesome.
Um, no, I'm just being weird.
Yeah, oh shit, we got a fewfollowers.
Three, three people arewatching.
Wow, hell yeah.
Hell yeah, awesome, but yeah,it was cool.

(01:18:42):
Yo, the people watching you doknow Willie.
They know Willie very well.
Can you call Willie and makesure he's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
He hasn't even texted you, or nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
Nah, I don't see nothing.
This isn't like him.
Yo Jay Jay, if you're listening, give Willie a shout.
I don't know where the hell heis is uh, yeah, but that that's
really it for that.
It was a great fight.
And and boxing there's.
There's two things boxing needmore fights like this and more
build-up for fights like this.
That's what ufc does.

(01:19:11):
Ufc has some boring ass fightslately, but the build-up gets
you into it.
It gets me gambling on ufc.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
You know what I mean and just what they've done for
years, like not even the bigfights.
Just give these guys littleintroductions, because then
people remember them later.
You can put them on cards andpeople are like oh, here's
fucking homeboy fighting anothernobody In reality he's not, and
the backstory a lot like.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
So if you watch the, not 30 for 30, but what is it
Dark Side of the Ring?
You ever watch dark side of thering about like wrestling?
No, I forget what it's on, butit's like mini documentaries on
wrestlers like wwf, wwe, wcw,dude.
The dark side of the ring tellstheir like backstory and like
what these people came from andlike I think boxing needs more

(01:19:58):
of that too.
Like yeah, there's so manygreat stories in boxing.
Oh, my god, dude, I want to seelike and that's what they need.
But, all right, keeping itpushing.
Uh, we're gonna wrap this upsoon.
I don't got much more to say.
I just want to touch on allthose topics uh, you didn't
watch the veto fight.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
I watched the veto fight kind of the same things we
said about bradley.
He just doesn't hit that secondgear.
He doesn't have power at 160.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
And he did fight a tough Polish guy.
I was there until the fourthround and then I was like we
tried to beat traffic and didn't.
Oh, so you saw the knockdown?
Yeah, I saw the knockdown and Ithought I had to fucking parlay
with him too.
I had Damien Knieba, the Polishheavyweight KOTKO, and I had
Vito ko tko at plus 100.
I put a lot of money on itbecause I'm like, oh, these are
kind of like locks, like they'reclearly want.

(01:20:43):
They want veto to get theknockout and he didn't.
So he's good, but I just I think, he's not champion level, yet
jamal jamal just said willie'seta is 15 minutes.
You know the show's gonna beover 15.
What the fuck?
I hope willie's all right yo.
Prayers up for willie.
Prayers up for willie.
Um, yeah, he's just, he he's.

(01:21:06):
He's a sound boxer, he'stechnically, he doesn't have
like a lot of flaws.
I don't see right.
No, and and some, but not a lot.
Yeah, but like, and he's still,he's also very young.
I just think that that espnreally wants like a white
italian dude, like that's theirguy, I guess.
I don't know, I don't know what, because he has support.

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
He has backing right he.
He was on pbc and on pbc he wasgetting.
He was knocking out like alexissalazar and shit yeah, that's,
that's a.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
Any latino you knock out is good, that's good, but
that's a real name.

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
And then he had the.
He had that last fight where alot of people thought he should
have lost.
He got the draw moves up aweight class I was there for
that fight.

Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
I didn't even know he moved up, this was moved up.

Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
I didn't even know yeah, because when he got there,
he was at 54, wasn't he?
Because they were talking abouthim fighting Zayas and
everything.
Yeah, you're right.
You're right.
Yeah, this fight was at 160.

Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
The thing with me is like all right, he's winning
fights, though, okay, the lastone was close.
He won, clearly won this fightright, yeah, easily.
They did everything in the I'mtelling you, dude, we just
talked about the size of thering they did everything in
their power to give him aknockout.
They did everything in theirpower they could to give this
guy.
They wanted a veto knockout.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
Yeah, late in the fight he was just landing
throwing one, maybe two punchcombos.
They're like where's the combos, where's his quick flurries
like Oscar would throw?
He's got the hand speed for it,I don't know.
Also, because the knockdown hescored was nice.
This is like a legit ring iqmove, because the guy

(01:22:47):
transitioned to south ball, yeah, and he did it too.
And as soon as he did vetothrough that double straight
right, not dropped him, he.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
So he's smart.
It's just I don't know that youcan't.
You can't push a rope.
Like they're right, for he wassupposed to sell out Newark.
They put this fight at thePrudential Center for Vito the
New Jersey kid to bring allthese people in there, and there
was a lot of empty seats there.
Yeah, you can see it on thebroadcast and that's not good
either.
They never want that.
And I'm not taking anythingaway from Vito.

(01:23:15):
He is who he is and he's awell-spoken, nice guy.
Just ESPN, I think, is kind ofor not ESPN Top Rank is taking
the wrong route with him.
That's all I don't think he'slike.
Is he next level?
Is he ready for that next tier?

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
No, he's not ready for what.
They're trying to promote himas yeah, exactly Because they're
showing him with all his beltsand stuff, even though literally
every single one of them is asecondary title.

Speaker 2 (01:23:40):
I hate that belt.
Shit, bro.
There was a guy.
There was a guy and nothingagainst him.
There was a guy walking aroundand he had a lot of hometown
fans there, so I'm guessing he'sfrom Jersey and I think he
knocked the dude out in thesecond or third fight.
I don't know who he was, but hewas walking around with this
blue belt and I looked at myfriend that I knew from New York
that was there and I look athim.

(01:24:00):
I go what is that belt?
I've never seen a blue belt.
He's like I don't know whatthat is and like people were
kissing the belt and I'm likewhat fucking belt is this?

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
There's a guy I know who's got a belt like that.
It's like a North America title.
Okay, literally the guy he beat, he got it off of was like five
and three, yeah, and everyinterview you see him on.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
He's got it like over his shoulder, yeah, and like
I'm not even, I'm not evenhating on the guys, though like,
like listen, if I got a belt,I'd wear that shit like a belt
strap, you know, I mean I'd takea shower with that fucking big
butt.

Speaker 1 (01:24:32):
But dude, he won it in like a fucking town hall.
Yeah, yeah, it had like themetal folded chairs.
It's like the crowd he wore itto like Canelo Munguia weigh-ins
and shit.

Speaker 2 (01:24:43):
Yeah, that's crazy.
I would do that.
But you'd expect that from usLike what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
It was weird.
He got knocked out in thesecond round by one guy, so that
guy got a fight on top rank andgot knocked out in the first
round by Alan Garcia.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
And see, this is what they needed.
Boxing needs to let the regularpeople know that there's.
There's different levels.
We're not like the UFC like youmake the UFC.
You made it.
You know, like boxing hasdifferent levels and, like I
always say, people are probablysick of it Tears, but yeah, that
that's really all I had fromthat card.

(01:25:19):
One specific fight I was talkingabout was Vito's people, and it
was right.
When Vito got the knockout, thecops were trying to kick this
Italian dude out.
They had to be mobbed up, bro.
They had to be mobbed up andthey're trying to kick this
flashy Italian dude out.
And then Vito knocks the dudedown and the Italian guy looks
See, I fucking missed it becauseof you, and he just won't stop

(01:25:40):
arguing and props to those cops.
They showed a lot of restraint,because I just know NYPD
wouldn't take that and I've beenkicked out of events.
They don't play around likethat.
Yeah, they're like what wasthat Dude and this guy?
We're waiting Like people hadtheir phones out.
Nobody's watching the fight.
They're watching this flashy,mobbed up italian dude.

(01:26:07):
They got him out of there.
It was, it was, and yo salute tojahai tucker's family too.
Man baltimore had a lot ofpeople there.
There was a fight brewing withjahai's brother, uh and and, and
all these people from longisland and yo, these shirts,
right, these shirts were amazing, it made sense.
Game seven shout out to thanksfor playing.
The only thing you've neverbeen to a fight with me is I
talk a lot of shit on the sideof the ring for my guys.
Right, there's a big C, acertified symbol, on the back.

(01:26:28):
That's what Jihai Tucker wanted, bro, it was like a fucking
target.
It was like, oh, look at thatguy.
There goes that guy.
Baltimore was just looking atme and my wife even said she's
like yo, nick, like sit lower,like you got this big target on
your back.
Yeah, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:26:43):
That was that's crazy .
Were they saying shit to you?

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
Not so much to me, but like, like Baltimore's
people were saying shit toJahai's brother.
There was one, one guy saidsomething to me and I was just
like, ah, shut up, I like theguy, but they, they.
But there was almost a bigfight.
They kicked out the Baltimorefans.
Actually, really, yeah, I thinkJahai's brother was like yo,
that's my brother.
And they kicked him out.

(01:27:08):
And one more thing I wanted tosay.
I'm not going to say his name,but the guy sitting next to me
that I know from the New Yorkfights he's originally from
Brooklyn.
Right, yo, he is a real dude.
Because they let Jahaiaitucker's brother and like four
or five other dudes like gobackstage and they had this one
guy sitting there, like the onefriend of theirs was, who didn't
have a wristband or whatever,was just sitting in the same

(01:27:29):
spot with the baltimore fansyelling at him and then he like
ran upstairs after they kickedhalf the baltimore fans out.
You know this dude, this grownman from new york.
He just knew this dude was fromnew york.
He's like nah, nah, nah, I'mnot letting him get jumped.
And he fucking ran up there andI went to go with him.
But my wife was with me andshe's like you're not going
anywhere so I had to stay.

(01:27:49):
But I was like yo, that's areal dude right there, like he,
he's, like he's, like I don'twant to see no kid get jumped
and I got like I appreciate thatso much.
That was awesome to see man.
Yeah, being a real dude, I'm notgoing to lie.
I was happy.
My wife told me to stay becauseI probably would have got beat
up, but it was cool.
You could stand.
It was cool.
That's really it about Jahai.

(01:28:09):
We'll try and keep it goinghere.
I'm rambling on now.
You want to talk quick aboutChristian and Billy versus
Selecki, like a little preview.

Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
Christian Mbili versus Selecki, like a little
preview.
Yeah, I mean I don't think it'sgoing to be close, but I think
this is another one.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
This is another one.
It's another one of thosefights where top ranks just fill
in spots, you know like.

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
Yeah, Well, they've been trying to push Mbili
because he is really good.
Yeah, it's just dude.
No big name will fight him yet.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
Yeah, and you know what?
The only downside with him isyo, he has the body.
No, did he.

Speaker 1 (01:28:46):
That guy has the fucking body yeah he's fucking a
specimen, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
I just saw something like MVP promotions is pushing
Jake Paul, obviously, right,right, I guess we got to speak
on that too, fuck, but he'spushing Jake Paul and they're
like oh, jake Paul, does JakePaul?
Look?
They posted this on Instagram,you can look it up Is Jake Paul
the most jacked in boxing?
And I'm like he's not evenmuscular.

(01:29:10):
No, dude, he looks like me.
And then I'm like I'm like dude, I'm a little fatter, I'm like
yo.
This guy, Christian and Billy,is like fucking all muscle.

Speaker 1 (01:29:21):
He looks like he's in yeah, he looks like he fought
fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:29:26):
Gladiators, or like fucking in Stallone whatever
Rocky he looks like Rocky's,like what the fuck.
But, the only thing with him is,you know, his his last fight.
People are get the only thingyou can really get on him.
Honestly, he didn't finishDevorinchenko, who is tough and
went in there to survive, but hedid have one arm.
Devorinchenko only had one armand I'm not saying it's a little

(01:29:49):
easier to just try to survive.
Chanko had one arm and tried towin.
There was a few rounds he wonand Mbili was losing with one
arm.
So that's all I'll say.
Seleki is another tough guythat's going to go in there and
try to survive.
If Mbili can get him out, canget Seleki out of there.
The fight to make is what's hisface?

(01:30:12):
Who's fighting our boy Pacheco?
Yeah, I know differentpromotions, but that's the fight
to make, I feel.

Speaker 1 (01:30:20):
Yeah, because Berlanga won't fight either one
of them, or Shiraz, whatever hisname is.

Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
I don't want to hate on Berlanga or Shiraz, because
that is a tough fight for bothof them on paper.
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:30:33):
But there was a rumor today that came out.
I thought was odd, it doesn'tmake sense, but it was posted by
like a legit boxing page, soI'm a little curious.
Yeah, is that apparently innovember turkey wants to make a
card that has like zapata on it,even though he's fighting
shakur in july versus andy cruz,and then it's got in billy on

(01:30:56):
there.
If you were to win this weekendversus lester Martinez, who's
dope?
Another knockout.
But I was like I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:31:05):
There's a lot of moving parts there and a lot of
stuff Zepeda legit is anunderdog in a fight coming up.
And this is the biggest fight ofhis life, right?
What do you think?
Speaking of Zepeda, not to gettoo off topic, and this is what
happens.
So, for those that are going tolisten, punchlines and I were

(01:31:25):
always up late talking boxingCause we're the only idiots
awake and like, here we areagain.
I feel like it's not late, butwe're just yapping.
What do you think of Tevinfarmer verse?
What the hell?
Kid Austin yeah, I don't know,I feel like I'm, as a betting
man dude and Tevin Farmer's lasttwo performances.

(01:31:45):
I thought that the Zepeda 2,right, tevin Farmer versus
Zepeda 2.
I thought for sure Tevin Farmerwasn't going to be able to get
up for that fight again.
He's getting older.
I didn't think he was going totrain enough what I'm saying and
he and he did his thing.
I know, I know you think zapatais a little overrated, but
tevin farmer is tevin and and heshowed up for that fight.

(01:32:06):
He's not coming in there to losehe showed up for the morataya
fight too and and yeah, healways shows up, he's not and
and he knows right now, if hebeats kid austin, he's right
back in the mix oh 100 and yeah,he wants big fights.

Speaker 1 (01:32:20):
I'm glad he's getting these bigger fights awesome
dude especially at this point inhis career.

Speaker 2 (01:32:24):
I'm putting money on on him.
I'm not saying it's a lock, I'mnot.

Speaker 1 (01:32:28):
I'm not counting him out, dude yeah, and I've also
never seen kid austin withanybody of his status reputable?
No, like he was supposed to getthe sill fight then that got
canceled.
Then he pulled out of theshakur fight this is his best
opponent, 100%.

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
If he fought Shakur and lost, I'd be backing Kid
Austin a lot.
I'd be like, oh, he got a lotof experience in that, but no,
he didn't.
To me he is a live, live, livedog.
I don't know what the odds are,but I'm putting money on him.

Speaker 1 (01:32:59):
What card is that on?

Speaker 2 (01:33:01):
um, I, I don't.
I think it's definitely adisowned card, but yeah, it's
gotta be.
Um, oh no, I think is it.
Is it on the mccombie undercard?

Speaker 1 (01:33:12):
that'd be a crazy fight to put on that card.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
I think it might.
It might it's soon.
I think it's a bam card.

Speaker 1 (01:33:18):
Yeah, I think it's soon damn, that's a good ass
card.
Iass card, I'm not going to lie.

Speaker 2 (01:33:21):
I'm not 100% sure though, but whatever it is, I'm
tuning in for that when I lookit up Again.
I don't know what the odds are.
I've been getting a lot of likeI don't want to say props, I
guess, about my picks, but justknow, I lose more than I win.
I only post the wins and I onlypost the wins, but I have been
getting a lot of props withoutmy picks.
That's good to know.

Speaker 1 (01:33:42):
There is a good fight this weekend on that Jake Paul
card, though I really want towatch that co-main event.

Speaker 2 (01:33:48):
Who is that again?
Just say it, and it'll comeback.

Speaker 1 (01:33:50):
Zerto Ramirez versus Dorticos the Cuban guy.

Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think those are for me, isn't it
like Dirticos, is that how yousay it?
Am I?

Speaker 1 (01:34:01):
saying it right, yeah , something like that Dirticos,
Dirticos.
I don't fucking know, they callme Chain.
So you know what?
When they get it right, I'llget it right.

Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
Oh, I got you, bro, I got you.
I know you don't like Zerto,but I like.

Speaker 1 (01:34:15):
Zerto man, I don't hate him.

Speaker 2 (01:34:25):
I like watching him fight.
He's a fun guy to watch fightever since.

Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
I think he's the shit ever since he like missed
weight and admitted he didcocaine whatever, like he's been
for me he's been like on a tearin a sense.
Yeah, his fight, I mean he beatjoe smith jr at cruiser, but
that you know, I didn't thinkone fight.

Speaker 2 (01:34:33):
I thought joe's and I'm a little biased.

Speaker 1 (01:34:35):
Joe smith is from a few towns over I thought I love
joe smith jr dude, I thought hewas gonna knock him out you
thought he was gonna knock zertoout yeah, I thought he was
gonna knock him out oh see, Ithought zerto was gonna knock
him out because he hadn't he gotknocked out by better bf, he
hadn't fought in a while.
He was going up a weight class.
He looked okay, yeah, but thenzerto just be.
Oh, he pre.
He beat chris bill and smith.

(01:34:56):
That's chris bill.
Smith is legit good legit.

Speaker 2 (01:34:59):
Good.
And that last guy he fought itwas like a German dude, I think.
Who was, I don't know him.
That was dude.
That guy was.
Hold on, Let me look it upquick because I forget his
fucking name.
But I became a fan after thatfight.

Speaker 1 (01:35:15):
Yeah, the Billum Smith fight was impressive
because Chris Billum Smith is.
He beat Richard Reakpour, hebeat Lawrence Okoli.
He's a good cruiserweight.
So the fact that zerto beat himand he, I think he'll beat
dorticos, but dorticos can winthat fight.
He's good bro, yeah, and he'sgot power.

Speaker 2 (01:35:33):
Yeah, I was gonna say he has pop.
Was it this guy, arson arsongulmarian?
No, it wasn't him.

Speaker 1 (01:35:40):
Fuck is that guy just go to zerto's box, right, what
are you?

Speaker 2 (01:35:43):
doing?
I'm looking, I'll find it.
Maybe I'm thinking I'm thinkingof someone else.
Shut up, fuck out of here.
Say one thing about theitalians and you're gonna fuck
out of here I ain't even italianeither, yeah, but you like the
soprano, who doesn't?

Speaker 1 (01:35:58):
I love that meme like , oh, really like the ending for
your sopranos just blacked out.
That's weird.
Tony soprano came to mepersonally and said I understood
the show more than anybody pro,I'm retarded, it is.
It is chris billiam smith yeah,but before that was that arson
gulam miriam yeah, yeah is hegood I don't know, but I know
chris billiam smith is good asshit.

Speaker 2 (01:36:19):
Yeah, yeah and like I gained in that Zerto fight, I
gained a lot of respect forChris Billiam Smith.
That's my bet.
It was Chris Billiam Smith,dude, and he could hit.
Billiam Smith could crack.

Speaker 1 (01:36:31):
Yeah, he's tough, he beat.
Like I said, he beat React 4.
He beat Lawrence O'Coley.
He's good.

Speaker 2 (01:36:35):
And he did not.
Didn't fucking.
I thought that fight was gonnaget stopped.
He looked tired, he didn't giveup, dude, and zerto did his
fucking thing.
I like zerto man, I this cleancut zerto, I like the fat zerto
and yeah I like.

Speaker 1 (01:36:49):
I can see him losing a lot of early rounds to the
cuban dude though, because thecuban dude he's got good timing,
he can box, he's got good, goodpop.
But I think zerto's pressureand size are gonna work, because
, because gassiev wore that dudedown back in the day yeah, but
gassiev could fucking cracksoaking zerto, though, dude,
it's like a different, not thesame, but he's, he just has

(01:37:10):
pressure, he's gonna.
He also throws more punchesthan than gassiev does too.
He throws more combos I sawgassiev.

Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
I follow him on like my personal account, right?
Yeah, I saw him training dudeand, like yo, he looks like like
if I didn't shave my head likethat's how my hair would look
really but like it's weird tosee because he's got way more
power and like drive than I do.
So I I see him training, like Ilike I look, took a quick
glance and I'm like, bro, thatlooks like a video of me boxing

(01:37:40):
just way better, like what thefuck like damn.

Speaker 1 (01:37:43):
When did I get good as?

Speaker 2 (01:37:44):
yeah, like, why is this guy so power?
What am I powerful?
This ai, uh, what happened tohim?
Dude, we talked about himrecently, I think you and I.

Speaker 1 (01:37:52):
He moved up to heavyweight.
He had a fight against ottowaleen actually, oh, before
waleen joshua and he lost, andapparently he was boring as fuck
.
Other than that, I don't knowanything.

Speaker 2 (01:38:05):
A guy like him is just promoted wrong too.

Speaker 1 (01:38:08):
Yeah, he's probably just big in Russia.
A lot of those Russian guys arelike that.

Speaker 2 (01:38:11):
Yeah, that's true.
It's a fucking different marketover there.
But yeah, I actually forgotabout that Gilberto fight.
I'm excited for that.
I guess, though, we have tospeak on it.
What's your take on the jakepaul fight?
Are you betting?
But if you were betting, areyou betting jake paul, are you?

Speaker 1 (01:38:27):
yeah, I don't trust fucking chavez bro.

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
He lost to anderson silva dude recently and not even
that, like any, anybody thatwould take a dive is him like,
like in boxing?

Speaker 1 (01:38:40):
a hundred percent in boxing.

Speaker 2 (01:38:42):
If you had to ask one person, I hope no one watches
this Cause.

Speaker 1 (01:38:46):
I work for Adams and he's like one of our sponsored
fighters, but I want him to win.
I would love for him to win,but I just don't trust him.

Speaker 2 (01:38:58):
I mean, I, jake Paul, is looking a lot better too
from a pure boxing standpoint,and like he has yeah, people
hate on the guy but, hedefinitely, he clearly devotes a
lot of time to it and and Igotta give one thing to him and
his brother like at first yearsago, when they first came on the
scene, I was like dude, fuckthese dudes.
Like, oh, they basically dideverything we want to do.

(01:39:20):
They went viral and got fuckingyeah oh my god, fuck these guys
they're not even gas fights,yeah, like they're not even
funny, like what the fuck?
fuck these guys.
But but then then you know theyboth in their craft like uh,
his brother with the wwe and himwith boxing they're taking the
right steps and they're makingit, so I can't hate on them yeah

(01:39:41):
, bro, I wish I was famous andcould fight like sugar ray
leonard or something and, and Iwill say, for boxing, the best
thing he ever did was get amandaserrano so like that's awesome
and get that katie taylor fightmade so like nobody could do
that bro.
Three times he did it and andyou know what?
The only thing I won't like,and and I'm not being sexist
when I say this is that fightKatie Taylor, amanda Serrano is

(01:40:05):
an MSG and it's an all-girl card.

Speaker 1 (01:40:10):
Yeah, I can't watch the whole thing.
I'll watch them fight because Ilove Amanda, of course.

Speaker 2 (01:40:15):
And I still might go last minute.
I try to go to every New Yorkfight I could, but I'm not going
to go sit there through that.
Maybe I'll show up late.

Speaker 1 (01:40:24):
I'll watch Alicia's fight too.

Speaker 2 (01:40:25):
I forgot she's fighting and yeah, he signed her
.
He did make eyes go to fuckingwomen's boxing.
Can't hate on him for that.
Yeah, no, he didn't, and he'sworking.
He does not look like the samekid, but I can't wait till he's
a promoter, till he's strictly apromoter.

(01:40:47):
I almost hope he loses and goes.
Oh yeah, listen, that was fun.
I did what I could.

Speaker 1 (01:40:51):
I'm gonna promote now because I think yeah, like real
boxing, though not yeah, yeahyeah, hybrid fucking a hundred
percent.

Speaker 2 (01:40:58):
But I I think he has enough like clout now in the
game that he could promote realboxing dude youtubers versus old
boxers would be hilarious.

Speaker 1 (01:41:05):
Imagine mr b stalking amir khan.
The fuck out, yeah that wouldbe good.

Speaker 2 (01:41:11):
I die laughing um.
But you know, whatever I mean,I'm gonna watch it, I'm gonna I
people hate on me, I order hisfights, I watch them, whatever
yeah, because he usually haslike one or two good undercard
fights.
I don't, I don't pay for hisshit I've streamed every single
one of them who was on the tyson, the tyson undercard that ramos

(01:41:31):
and barrios yeah, ramos, thatwas a great fight a great, it
was an awesome fight and thenfollowed by katie taylor serrano
, like that was a good card evenwhen he fought um ben askren
back in the day yeah, he had progray versus red catches yeah,
that's true, red red catch.

Speaker 1 (01:41:50):
Remember, did something stupid, right yeah, he
faked getting hit in the ballyeah, yeah, like got escorted
out or some shit, wasn't it yeah?
He got carried out on like astretcher because his balls were
hurt so bad and it showed likethe punch never hit his balls.

Speaker 2 (01:42:02):
And Red Catch was a name in boxing.

Speaker 1 (01:42:04):
He wasn't like a normal guy.
Yeah, he was a tough dude.

Speaker 2 (01:42:06):
Yeah, that was weird.
But yeah, all right, I guesswe'll close the show out now.
It was a little longer Me andhim get yapping about this
happens.

Speaker 1 (01:42:15):
Yeah, we talk way too much.

Speaker 2 (01:42:16):
Way too much.
Way too much.
Sorry, my ass hurts, but um too, I wish willie was here, man, I
know.
I hope he's okay for real, yeah15 minutes just passed.

Speaker 1 (01:42:27):
He's still not here, so I just got to call him out.

Speaker 2 (01:42:29):
Like they clearly lied um, I'm gonna call him
after the show.
We'll get an update on willie.
Uh, yeah, let me know yo, butthis is really not like him.
That's why I want I want thatto be known like I've had other
co-hosts no call, no show before, and like they've done it twice
, maybe three times.
Willie is like that.
He's known not he'll come late.

Speaker 1 (01:42:48):
They'll never know, no yeah, I hope he's all right,
all right um, all right, thoughwe'll just.

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
We'll just close it out with, uh, something that
happened on sunday and once insaudi, we had the canelo versus
crawford press conference.
Um, we have to talk about itbecause it's drama in the boxing
world.
It kind of took over theinternet.
I, I don't really I, it looksall forced to me.
A lot of stuff looks forcedyeah I.

(01:43:16):
I don't know why and I'm notbeing like, maybe it's just a
different culture or something,but everything Turkey touches
looks forced to me.

Speaker 1 (01:43:25):
Yeah, because, dude, he's a fucking royal member in a
country.
He's like what's he going to do?
Be like yeah, we're going to dothis.
First of all, nobody can belike sure, they're not going to
buy that, they're not going tobelieve this, because they'll
die.
And even if they do tell himthat he'll be like, what do you
mean?

Speaker 2 (01:43:40):
they won't believe it , like if, just if they don't
believe it and kill them and inhis defense, in a sense, he's a
real boxing fan, so like he'sjust having fun with these like
toys he's just a nerd dude,that's all he is like these
boxers.
It would just the prep.
The fights are good, but theprep it looks like he has like
toy wrestlers remember thoselittle toy wrestlers when you're
everyone had?
Yeah, like he has them and he'sjust fucking with him like in

(01:44:02):
the locker from jimmy neutronwith his voltron toy.
Yeah, dude, that's what thisfelt like, and and.
You see the difference betweenand and.
I'll close out with this.
But, like the saudi presser,right, there was no crowd noise,
nothing.
Then they go to new york cityand there's some beef there's
crowd noise.
The fighters get a little moreamped because the real boxing

(01:44:24):
fans are there, the drunkhooligans are there, and
unfortunately that's going to bethe last time you hear crowd
noise, because then they'regoing to go back to Saudi and
have this fight right, or maybethey're doing a presser in Vegas
too.

Speaker 1 (01:44:37):
I thought the fight was in Vegas.

Speaker 2 (01:44:39):
Is it in Vegas?
Am I retarded?

Speaker 1 (01:44:41):
Yeah, I presser in vegas too?
I thought the fight was invegas.
Is it in vegas?
Am I retarded?

Speaker 2 (01:44:43):
yeah, I thought I got confirmed for allegiance
stadium.
You're absolutely right.
I'm retarded and I'm happy yousaid that, so you're you're
right I was so confused.

Speaker 1 (01:44:50):
I was like, where's he going with?

Speaker 2 (01:44:51):
this.
That's totally my fault.
You're 100, right, it is.
It is in vegas, so now they'reback we will have crowd noise.
So that whole take.
Let's just uh forget, I saidanything you're right, they're
gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:45:00):
Oh man, I hope they fill that bitch up no, they,
they will, canelo will fill up.

Speaker 2 (01:45:06):
I, I in, I guess in saudi it looked really forced
and then, like the push withcanelo looked forced, but you
know you're right, it is.

Speaker 1 (01:45:13):
And then there's going to be shots of the airport
with all the celebrity privatejets flying in just to watch it
but this is props to him, thenProps to Turk he's learning you
can't have these fights in Saudi.

Speaker 2 (01:45:25):
You can't have them all the time, especially those
huge cards like that, and youknow what Good for him.
Then he's learning, because theBerlanger card is in New York
and there is fans.
I'm actually working on gettingmy tickets now, so that's good
to know.
So he is learning, all right.
All right, I forget abouteverything.
I just said.
I'm fucking, uh, I'm retweeted,so you can't say that word you

(01:45:48):
see canelo fucking going afterhim, basically calling out.

Speaker 1 (01:45:51):
I'm out saying like, yeah, he wants crawford to win,
crawford's his boy yeah, yeah,that that's good though we want.

Speaker 2 (01:45:57):
I want mean canelo yeah, he's a dick but did you
see, like the dinner too?
It was weird, dude, it wasreally weird.

Speaker 1 (01:46:03):
Yeah, it was fucking odd.

Speaker 2 (01:46:05):
And you know what.
Shame on Terrence Crawford, bro.
He's at this royal guy's houseand he wore a t-shirt.

Speaker 1 (01:46:11):
It could have been.
I bet you.
You know what, though?
I bet you there's going to besome stupid ass food fight video
and they shot it there.

Speaker 2 (01:46:23):
That's going to be the trailer for the fucking yo.
If that is, we got to cut thisclip and and post it because
you've been right lately.
You've been very right latelywith my crazy ass conspiracy.
Yeah like the semantics of ofbackground of boxing.
You've been on point.
So, um, see through thebullshit, turkey, damn dude,
you're right, that is in vegas.
I was talking to people.
They're like yo, you're goingto vegas, I'm an idiot, uh, but

(01:46:43):
see, that's what turk does.
Like.
I thought for sure, this fightwas gonna be in saudi no, I'm
glad it's not yeah, a hundredpercent.

Speaker 1 (01:46:50):
He's doing the right thing I'm glad it's at like a
real stadium too and like, yeah,we're doing this fight at the
hoover dam like what?

Speaker 2 (01:46:58):
yeah, and and dude, it will sell.
It will fucking sell.
It's canelo crawford.
I don't care what anyone says,crawford is a big dude.
Uh, also too, I heard and Idon't even know if I'm supposed
to say this or whatever, but Iheard from a friend I'm not
going to name names and I mayhave told you this crawford has
the most natural testosterone ofanybody, like ever.
Yeah, like he tests super high.

(01:47:21):
Maybe it's out there.
I could say he tests super highin testosterone yeah, he's a
real dude too.

Speaker 1 (01:47:27):
He's just a fucking like posting the pictures of him
and canelo staring off, and heshows a little boosie as a song
oh man and crawford might win,bro, and he's super's, super
competitive, super competitive,100%.

Speaker 2 (01:47:41):
The only thing I will say so is Canelo, and you know
Canelo's not going in there tolose to Crawford.
No, I hate that he's holdingthese belts hostage, though.
Drop the belts if you're goingto do stuff like this.

Speaker 1 (01:47:52):
But who else also is there for him to fight
Realistically at 168.
And this isn't me being aCanelo fanboy, but Benavidez
isn't at 168 anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:48:01):
But do you think if it was contracted, you think
Benavidez wouldn't go to 168 tofight Canelo?
Anybody would go throughanything for that money.
He's the money.
No, I'm not saying he wouldn't,but would we be excited about
that fight with him makingBenavidez suck back down to 168?

Speaker 1 (01:48:22):
I think, with everything that built up, do you
think people would be moreexcited about that than this
Crawford fight?
Because I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:48:26):
I honestly do not, I think.
Benavidez versus Canelo, though, is because I do see there's a
chance for Crawford to win.
I just Canelo is not going inthere to lose, and I'm a big.
What have you done for melately, guy?
Yeah, and I don't want to gotoo far into it, but Crawford
didn't look that great in hislast fight.

(01:48:47):
No, he didn't against Wondermaw, and he's bumping up again,
right?

Speaker 1 (01:48:51):
Yeah, two weight classes from that.

Speaker 2 (01:48:53):
And Canelo say what you want.
Yeah, his opponents have been,but he's been there, he's been
there, and that fight was almosta year ago.
You know what I mean, though.
Like so Crawford's going to gethit with some shit that he's
never got hit with.
That's all I'm saying.
I'm backing him, I'm rootingfor him.
I want the American to win 110%.
I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 (01:49:12):
By the time he fights Canelo.
He would have two fights in thelast two years.

Speaker 2 (01:49:22):
It'd be Spence and mademoiselle.
Nobody else.
Yeah, and and spence.
There's still question marksabout that, like what the fuck
was wrong with him?
That didn't look anything likehim and I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:49:26):
Yeah, and it's not taken away from bud either,
because what bud did was special, but arrow, it didn't look like
the same arrow, but you, youtake that bud, fight away from
him right from crawford.

Speaker 2 (01:49:35):
Canelo kind of has a point like what have you done?
Yeah, and did you?

Speaker 1 (01:49:38):
see bud's arguments to that.
He's like are you gonna tell mepostal wasn't elite?
You're gonna tell me rickyburns wasn't?
Yeah, we are and then.

Speaker 2 (01:49:47):
And then canelo did have like good responses.
He's like, yeah, he got knockedout in my gym like what the
fuck are you talking about?
And it was so I don't know.
And I'm not taking anythingaway from crawford, I'm rooting
for crawford, I.
I know, but it's also, it'sbeing objective yeah, I, I need
to know what I know in boxingand, yes, canelo has let me down
on this farewell tour, right I?

(01:50:09):
I?

Speaker 1 (01:50:09):
don't yeah, because it's not like Canelo's been
looking remarkable.

Speaker 2 (01:50:12):
No, no, and, and he's changed there's.
He's slowed down.
He's slowed down.
It's one punch at a time.
Most of the time, yeah and yes,but that being said, he's he's
not going to go out with a lossto to Crawford you know what I
mean.
Like he's not.
He's giving it everything he'snot willingly, I get, is what
you're saying yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, and and and I will

(01:50:33):
say this Crawford wins a lot ofhis fights with his pop and
power.
That's not going to affectCanelo here, but he can box.
He can box, but so can Canelo.
And the only way to reallyreally like Like dude, triple G
didn't get Canelo out of thereand he got hit clean.
Bivel, dimitri Bivel waslighting Canelo up and didn't

(01:50:56):
get him out of there.
And Bivel say what you want,he's not a power puncher, but at
175 canelo moved up.

Speaker 1 (01:51:02):
he, you know what I'm saying like yeah I don't still
beevil's not like thunder'spower, but he had enough power
to bother better and and canelowas returning.

Speaker 2 (01:51:12):
I'm just saying canelo's chin is arguably the
best in boxing, and maybe it'snot even arguably it's the best
chin in boxing.
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:51:24):
I mean all time I would say triple G, triple G.
Oh yeah, no, no, some crazyshit bro.

Speaker 2 (01:51:30):
Triple G got hit clean by Canelo and didn't go
down, didn't even.

Speaker 1 (01:51:34):
He kept walking forward bro.

Speaker 2 (01:51:35):
It was insane.
But I'm not saying all time,but right now, that you can't
and you're never going to loseyour chin.
You have to get knocked down tolose it.
I guess I don't know, or cut alot of weight and that's another
thing too or cut Cut in general.
When has Canelo ever bled?

Speaker 1 (01:51:54):
He does swell though.

Speaker 2 (01:51:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:51:56):
He's starting to get swollen more.

Speaker 2 (01:51:58):
His head is so fucking big.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't want to preview thatyet, but the presser just looked
weird to me.
Thank you for correcting me.
You are right, it is in Vegas.
I'm an idiot, but there's somuch shit going on in Saudi and
it was so silent.
Yeah, my PTSD kicked in and I'mlike oh shit.

Speaker 1 (01:52:16):
And the fact that they're like it could be in
saudi, it's like dude why and isis the fight gonna be in
daytime?

Speaker 2 (01:52:21):
remember earlier when we started this, I was like, oh
, remember that is it gonna beduring the day oh man, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:52:27):
I haven't seen nothing about that.
It better not be, not in vegas.

Speaker 2 (01:52:30):
You can't do a fight on at daytime in vegas there's
some weird like uh beef withoscar de la joya and and fucking
uh turk about like it beingplayed during the day and I I
don't know if I misinterpretedit, but Oscar, why does?
Oscar, give a shit I don't knowOscar, just you know Oscar.
I know All right now we'regetting a little all over the

(01:52:53):
place, but he does give a shitfor some reason.
But he doesn't have a fighteron that card does he?

Speaker 1 (01:52:58):
I don't think so, not that I know of.
I know him and Dana don't likeeach other at all.

Speaker 2 (01:53:03):
I might have to do something with that.
Did you see Dana too?
Though that's another thing.
The Dana shit looks forced.
And nothing against Dana White.
Great dude Promotes UFC.

Speaker 1 (01:53:12):
Great yeah, they're trying to make the most out of
the opportunity of the optics onthe fight with dana there and
canelo and crawford and all that.
And they brought back maxkellerman.
Like he's some savant, like andand no offense to max kellerman
, he was all right.
Oh man, I need to make a memeof fucking chris maddox being
mad that max kellerman's backthere.

Speaker 2 (01:53:32):
He is the legend punchline oh, should I do?

Speaker 1 (01:53:36):
you're taking everything I work for mother
motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (01:53:40):
Look look at him.

Speaker 1 (01:53:41):
work Dude, this is honestly how I make my meme yeah
.

Speaker 2 (01:53:49):
This guy's the boxing meme, fucking general.
Yeah, that's really it.
I'm rambling on here now.
Sorry for the technicaldifficulties.
Again, we are new to going live.
It's only our third episode.
Live, willie.
If you're fucking around, Ihope you're all right.
Man, I got to find Willie.
I don't know what the fuckhappened.
Punchlines, as always, thankyou.
We'll be back, I guess nextweek, right, is there anything?

Speaker 1 (01:54:11):
Yeah, we got to yeah, unless I can start getting you
some fighter interviews.
I got some people who are down.
If you can get a translator, Ican get you on Rohan Polanco.

Speaker 2 (01:54:20):
Ooh, yeah, I could get a fucking translator, and
then O'Shea.

Speaker 1 (01:54:26):
Jones, I can get you her.

Speaker 2 (01:54:28):
Yeah, I'll fucking chat it up, bro, this podcast,
so even the other thing you didwith the other internet
influencers in the boxing worldand stuff, right'll, I'll chat
up with anybody, I don't care.
We you see how I ramble we justtalk boxing, oh yeah, but, um,
yeah, yeah, I definitely do wantto get some interviews.

(01:54:49):
I do want to get, though, uh,who we've had on before.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna actuallytext him when we get out of here
.
I want to get shushu back onbefore his fight.
Um, because I had a goodinterview with him and this is
how, how cool Punchlines is ifyou made it this far.
He said like yo, when you dointerviews, I don't want to be
involved because it gets weirdwith three.
What a humble guy.

Speaker 1 (01:55:08):
Yeah, it gets difficult, it makes it harder
for the viewer too.

Speaker 2 (01:55:12):
He does call me derogatory terms a lot in
private, but he's a very humbleguy Shut up.
I almost said the F word.
All right, we're out of here.
All right, brother, peace out,man.
Thanks, as always.
We'll see you guys, next weekPeace.

Speaker 1 (01:55:26):
Later Fucking Willie, bro, I hope he didn't text you,
or nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:55:31):
Hold on, I didn't end yet.
Yeah, he didn't text me, man.

Speaker 1 (01:55:35):
Bro, that's shady, that sucks.
How the fuck do I?

Speaker 2 (01:55:38):
end this?
I don't know.

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