Knockouts and No-Shows: Boxing's Wild Yet Undisputed Weekend!

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Join us for this week’s energizing episode of THE SPAR-INN BOXING PODCAST, where we dive deep into recent boxing events that had fans buzzing. We break down the unforgettable fights from this weekend, the crowning of a new light heavy weight undisputed champion, share personal stories from  ringside, and discuss the absence of crucial match broadcasts on mainstream networks. Why are boxing's best bouts often hidden from view? We address this pressing question as we reflect on our experiences in the crowd, cheering for champions and contenders alike.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's time for the main event.
It's the Spartan Podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Oh, it's a knockout, yo.
Episode 56 of the SpartanBoxing Podcast.
I have no energy today.
Willie is full of energy.
Oh my god, willie's matchingthe wallpaper right now Welcome
to the World.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Boxing Federation.
What the?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
fuck, are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yeah, because this shit is fake.
Oh yeah, willie, fucking boxingboy.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
We clearly lost a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, we did, and fuck this boxing shit.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
It was a great day of fights though.
Saturday, great, great day offights.
I have some gripes, somecomplaints, as usual.
I'm sure Willie does too.
Yeah, but I was in Florida so Iwatched the fights over there
down south.
Yeah, how was that?
That was a great time.
Saw my guy, Lorenzo Medina, andhis brother.

(01:01):
I couldn't even now, if youknow.
You know I get a little feistyat fights and I cheer very loud
and say some stupid shit.
I couldn't even do that becauseit was over.
It was over Second round.
I'm getting warmed up.
Night-night Lorenzo hit himwith a three-piece combo Fucking
night-night.
And his brother too, hisbrother.

(01:21):
I think it was a first-roundknockout.
Crazy Good people, though I washanging out with the family
afterwards we were drinkingpretty heavily, very heavily,
yeah, lots of tequila, greatpeople.
The Southern hospitality wasreal.
I did get a little scared on myway down there because I was
like man, I hope this guy hastickets.
And he did man of his wordLorenzo Med tickets, uh.

(01:45):
And he did man of his wordlorenzo medina.
Sky's the limit.
He has a big announcementcoming up.
Um, I think he's signing with abig promotion.
I don't want to say too much.
I don't know.
But he, uh, it was awesome, itwas good to see it sound like
you know, but you don't want toyeah I don't know officially, uh
, but so let me just get rightinto it.
Um, it was a huge day of boxingfor for everyone, uh, especially

(02:06):
me.
I'm like cool lorenzo'sfighting at the hard rock, right
, the giant killer's fighting atthe hard rock.
They have a sports bar.
I'm just gonna watch the fightsat the sports bar.
Um, the the bivol, better bfcard, great fights.
Every, every fight on that cardwas amazing.
I'm like I'll watch it at thesports bar, get drunk with my

(02:26):
lady and I get to the sports bar.
I'm ready, I sit.
The sports book, not the sportsbar.
The hard rock casino sports itwasn't on every goddamn sport
was on, but the undisputed heavyor light heavyweight
championship, oh no it no way itwas fucking crazy man, no way.
So what did I do?

(02:46):
I'm on my phone watching allthese fights.
I'm like, come on, dude, andthis is my biggest complaint,
turk Al-Ashiq, what are youdoing?
How is that fight right, atleast the main fight.
Okay, the undercard I get, butthe main fight how is that not

(03:07):
on in every fucking bar?
This is what brings people in.
You knew this fight was goingto be amazing.
Biffle better be F2 for all thebelts.
You knew it was going to beaction-packed.
There's no one that disputedthat right.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
No, not in America.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
You didn't even know it was on.
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
That's crazy that shit was not at the casino,
unless you're like a boxing nerdor fan Like nope.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
It was nothing else on.
Yeah, like the NCAA, that's alot of.
They had UFC on.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
They had UFC prelims on, they did yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, whatever man, that's what they get.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
That's what they get for starting to be like a.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
WWE.
Where'd you watch it?
Where'd you watch it?
Where'd you watch it?
I watched it.
Oh, I fucking signed up to thezone.
I'm like yo, look at me.
I signed up and bought the shit, so it's cheap though.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
But he's putting like these fights together, which we
can't Amazing fights as boxingfans.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
It was falling apart.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
It was falling apart.
It was falling apart, it wasfalling apart.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
The car wasn't what the car was supposed to be
People getting sick.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Danny Dubois got unexplained illness, no one
knows what or why, and the wayParker looked, I would be
running sick too.
I would be running sick too.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Don't talk about my boy Dubois.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
He saw something back there.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Dubois, I'm not running from Dubois.
He saw something back there.
Dubois could have known I'm notrunning from the smoke.
I can't see that.
I can't see that.
Kid Austin now, kid Austindefinitely ran from smoke.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
He ran from smoke and let's give it to Shakur.
He called that, he called thatout right away.
How the fuck did he know thatthey know something in camp.
And then they're like oh, hepoisoned me.
Like come on, dude, I lostrespect for Kid Austin for that.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah he can't have a fight, no more it was a win-win
for him.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
He would have got experience Just retire.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, that was.
I don't even want to see himplay, no more.
That was crazy.
He can't talk, his dad can'ttalk.
Shut up.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Lots can talk and we have lots to talk about.
As usual, we always get into itslowly but surely.
Again, I'm low energy.
I flew in today Hungover.
Still, this is some fuckingshit.
That was a great card and thenwe got a preview.
We're just going to preview theone fight, the $80 pay-per-view

(05:19):
To watch.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
That's how he does.
He don't have to fight itApparently, he fighting nobody.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
but this is about to be scary.
It's not worth no $80.
Hey it's going to be worth it.
This card was worth $80.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
It's going to sell out the Barclays too.
Everybody's showing love.
Nah, I heard ticket salesaren't.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
You're going to see what they do.
Is they go to?
The hood and they give it toall the boxing gyms, right?
No, fuck it.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Guess what we still doing.
Pay-per-view baby.
None of y'all man Y'all wishCool Pay-per-view baby.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
You're going to buy that shit too we watching this
shit here, probably, but I'mgoing to buy it.
I'm a fucking cuck to boxing.
I'm a boxing cuck to boxing.
I'm a boxing cuck.
Great card, though this cardshould have been a pay-per-view.
The Bivol better be F2.
Great fights from the get-go.
No, it shouldn't be no fuckingpay-per-view.

(06:16):
There was one, there was some,there was everything, there was
some drama.
Lil Turk Al-Sheik is fallinginto boxing's ways of problems,
the problems with boxing.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
No, it's like history just never.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
It repeats itself.
It always repeats itself.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
It never goes away and it's like it's in plain
sight.
Now you know we got socialmedia.
Everybody got a camera phone.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
You can't get away.
You can't get away, and I mean,it is what it is.
Do you got that clip for thepeople or not?
I, I don't have.
I could play.
If we chop it up, I'll play.
They all saw it though, yeah.
So basically, what we'retalking about if you didn't see
it, and you should go look it upwas uh, what's his face?
Shariz, yo like verse um.
What's his name?

(06:59):
Uh?
the dominican guy uh, dames,carlos adames.
So Shiraz versus Carlos Damesfor a belt, and it was a draw.
I mean, I'm not going to argue,I think Dames won actually.
Yo, yes, he did, he was working.
I was logging in at the fuckingsportsbook when this fight was

(07:21):
on.
I text you like yo.
Nah, this is crazy.
He was controlling the action,working off his jab, attacking
the body, chopping that tree,and and shiraz is what he is.
You know, he's a littleoverhyped, a little overhyped.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
He's tall and he like he got attributes but he's not
there one twos one, twos, one,twos one twos, one twos, one
twos um, and adames did histhing.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Man, he did his thing and then, and it was at the
10th or 9th round, so turkal-ashik, and now, before we,
talk.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
It was that late when that happened.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
I think so.
Yeah, I think don't quote me onthat, I think it was.
It was whatever.
He did it, though, but it's oncamera and and not only that,
like we the power that man hasin that country, so that the
pressure that applied to, toeverybody watching and stuff I
don't and judging.
So basically, what he did washe looked at the scorecards.
He went to each judging tablescore cards, looked at the

(08:11):
scorecards, then went toshiraz's corner and was like,
yeah, he's down by two.
He's that you're down by two.
You need to go now.
You need to go now, which ischeating, because the other guy
didn't have that benefit.
So it's cheating.
And yeah, I mean, did thataffect the fight?
No, dames still was winning,still won those rounds.
I think he still won.

(08:31):
But that pressure from the mostpowerful man in the arena and,
I'm sure, the judges felt thepressure, bro, and that just
causes a bias.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
No matter what it causes a bias.
You know he got the money.
This is pressure, bro, and thatjust causes a bias, no matter
what it causes a bias.
You know he got the money.
This is crazy, bro.
This is the WWE right now.
This is crazy.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
And like Shiraz is his guy.
It's not like you know, that'shis guy.
That's his guy bro, and likeit's sad to see because this is
everything that he said hewasn't gonna do, like this is
everything he's like I'm gonnamake boxing great again.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
We're gonna get a fourth judge that's not that I
don't like it, bro.
This is.
This is coming up freakingcircus, but he is he is putting
these fights together, so weyeah, but now like all right,
now if I'm somebody like liketank, right would not go yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
yeah, you're right, I would not go over there.
He was right, he said yo,unless you get a knockout.
Yeah, unless you go over thereand fight.
Yeah, you're right, I would notgo over there.
He was right, he said yo,unless you get a knockout.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, unless you go over there and you get a
knockout, you're not going towin.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
He's kind of right on that.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
If you fight one of his guys too like Shakur now,
this is his first.
Like Bud, I don't feel bad forCanelo.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Canelo's going to lose Bud that was going to lose.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
But it's his man.
He loves Bud.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
That's his favorite fighter, let's talk about that,
though.
That's his favorite fighter,did you see Bud?
And TO squash the beef.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah, yeah, it looked kind of weird because it looked
like Bud was like bullying him,yeah, like, but I don't know,
it felt kind of weird and notgenuine.
But Bud how we've seen, butlike in real life, how he is,
yeah, it had to be like Somereal shit.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
He has an aura about him Like yeah, yeah, it's some
real shit.
He probably said some real shitand like TO had no leg to stand
on, he was being stupid.
So it's like, but like.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
And then wearing a do-rag, your man's looking nuts
Again, dude.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
He did that.
He's now too.
He's doing podcast interviewsnot with us now.
He trying to look like a newyorker, but like the do-rag is
weird.
I don't even know, was thateven a real do-rag?

Speaker 1 (10:28):
yeah, yeah, it was like some people tired like that
.
Yeah, yeah, but that's like helearned that.
He probably learned that fromdean the greatest.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Some like youtuber whatever though he he does,
promote him.
He got a lot of promo out allthat bullshit he did.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
And yeah, and for some reason, he, I, I don't want
to ask him to spar and shit.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Hopefully spar and shit I'm sure he'll do that like
and gruff, but they know?

Speaker 1 (10:51):
we?
I feel like we know.
A lot of people know.
Nah, I don't think like thewhole public know, but like
people that talk to him likeknow that he's not fucking
racist yeah, it was clearlystupidity and promo, which isn't
right, and they.
They all saying that you're,and they all saying that shit
Cole.
They all saying that shit.
Like yo, y'all been in the ring, Y'all been around this guy,
and like he's not racist so whythe fuck is he doing this dumb

(11:14):
shit?
Yeah, yeah, man's is just weirdfor that.
No, all fighters are prettyweird.
Yeah, everybody.
The whole boxing shit is a.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
This shit is entertainment bro, this shit is
a.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
WWE.
I'm going to keep on sayingthis shit.
This shit is getting wild, allright.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Let's talk about the fights themselves, though we're
going to touch on the ShirazAdamez thing again.
Yeah, did you see that?

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yo, you wasn't able to see it right.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
I saw pieces because I was logging in.
That's when I got to the casino.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Working that young man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah he was workinghim.
Doing everything you'resupposed to do.
Yeah, he was working him and Iseen that shit.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
I'm like this is going to be a long but Shiraz
about the fighter itself.
Forget about that, though.
Let's just talk about the waythey hyped him up.
The promoters did their thingwith him, because they almost
had me fooled.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
They talked this guy up, yeah yeah, he was about to
be nice.
I thought he was like Fandoraand I've seen him fight when he
fought.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
What's his name?
That Austin dude, I forget, butlike yo he's, I've seen him and
he was.
He fought like Fandora, likeyou said.
Yeah, like one-twos coming downtall lanky dude.
Tall lanky dude, but compactingaway with his punches.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yeah, no way near.
I didn't see no combinations.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah, one-two, one-two, one-two.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
He doesn't work off his jab enough and gets in the
inside and throwing uppercuts.
And the dames is tough, thedames is tough, yeah, that's.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
You know who was calling out him too.
Who?
Well, since we're on this, justnow Chirac, uh-uh Jah.
Just now Jirai, uh-uh Jirai.
Tucker, what's talking?
Calling who out?
Dames, dames is coming at him.
Oh, yeah, okay, the Bronco,whatever the fuck his nickname
is.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Bronco yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
But he was coming.
He just called him out.
I was like I wasn't impressedand that'd be a cool fight.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Everyone, though I think is trying to, he's not
going to sit there like that.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Nah, nah.
The style of Dames could come,you know, put the pressure.
I'm down for that.
I'm down to see that.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
I'm down to see that.
Hell, yeah, yeah, I'm down tosee that.
Oh, I didn't even know that onethat was recent.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
I just saw him post it.
That's fire.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
I was actually going to hit him up, see if he wanted
to come on, dude before and theother dude um, yeah, he's not
even, but coley, he was likebefore, before no um no, it's
like a shiraz versus dames.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
It's like he's smith, it's a it's a, it's a he.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
No, he was like um, he's um the one of the saudi
dudes.
He's one of them, dudes man.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
I don't know, I think I missed that one.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
He's like 6-0.
He's like he just startedfighting and he fought like a
Brazilian guy like 2-20.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
I guess I missed that one too.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
He's like 6-20.
Couldn't get him out of there,did a whole fucking six rounds
or some shit like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he's backed up by the saadiniggas.
Yeah, yep, yep, they he's.
I don't know what the name is,but you could tell, like yo,
they trying to push thesefighters and this guy, oh, oh,
zayed al-amunaf.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Those are two fights.
I didn't see the zayedal-amunaf and he fought, and
muhammad muhammad.
Okay, I didn't see that, yeahhe's back by them.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
They was hyping him up like he's something he he got
.
He fighting a 6 and 20 guy andcouldn't pack him up.
He did a whole six round withsee, bro, they did because they
do was a sparring partner.
You should see you, did youwatch?
Yo, I didn't see the underundercard I was texting my
cousin like yo, what's going onright now?

(14:48):
He's really fighting a asparring partner, like a real
sparring partner, like this guydid so.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Speaking of that, what do you think of shakur
stevenson and his sparringpartner?

Speaker 1 (14:59):
oh yeah, but yeah, no , this is oh.
This is why I don't like it.
How the hell, how the hellpadley was sitting there walking
around at his weight, like he'swalking around.
He's electrician at least 140145 because how the fuck did he
get at a week, yeah, and made135.
So that means he was walkingaround at 140, 145 like you.

(15:23):
You lose the 10 back to 10pounds.
You can lose 10 pounds props tohim, though, man.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
He hopped on a plane to take that fight and he got to
him and then he was gassed bylike fourth round he was done
and you know what, props toshakur too, for giving him his
props like for doing that,because he got shakur his fight.
Shakur was actually beat.
I gained respect for shakur outof this, no so he is who he is,
right, right.
But he's like now admitting it,like, yeah, I hit and don't get
hit.
Fuck you, fight me, fight me.
You know what I mean.
Like I like this new.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
No, I love the fact that he did what he had to do,
right.
Yeah, I thought the dude wasgoing to go the distance just
because Shakur hurt hands and heended up, and that's what
really helped him.
His punches are very precise.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah, he's fucking.
He don't get touched like that.
You heard what Pedley said.
He's like oh, the face was fine, but he was really attacking my
body.
I wasn't really in shape.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Yeah, exactly that's what I mean.
That's the way the body workwas the main part, because his
punches to the face Was nothurting the guy.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
I was like yo, he was getting hurt, I like though
he's saying, yeah, I hit anddon't get hit, fuck it, nobody
could beat me.
He's like I kind of like it'snot fun to watch.
We don't enjoy watching that.
Yeah, he did what he had to do,but I don't like.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
I don't like how he's like Yo, I'm the best fighter
ever.
He, the Christian that just hadno training.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
And you know what.
You know what, though?
He would have done that sameshit To Kid Austin.
He went nine rounds, though.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah, I mean.
So the Kid Austin fight Wouldhave went 12 Maybe.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah, probably, but still, I mean he's, he wins, he
wins.
He wins when you, when you'rescoring points In boxing, he
fucking wins.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Is it fun, I like, I like that he just he really
punched him around yeah, andit's like I like to see that,
yeah, he was.
I want to see him.
He was so confident in the ringlike you got.
We need somebody in therethat's not going to make him
uncomfortable, like he was soconfident like, um, uh,
delisanto's like when, yeah,yeah, he's like he's scared of
the power, so he's like uh soyou know, his hand was real

(17:23):
fucked up then too, though, ohyeah, yeah, he's scared of the
power, so he's like uh, so youknow what I'm saying?
His hand was real fucked up thentoo, though.
Oh yeah, yeah, them hand issuesdon't like you know what.
They don't heal Because you gotto use your hand.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
He's going to be retired soon yeah, but he needs
one.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
He needs like a legacy fight.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
He needs like Olmechenko say what you want
about that fight.
Right, ryan Garcia, we knowwhat happened there, but someone
else that needs like a legacyfight too.
Yeah, travata Tank needs like a, so why don't we get Shakur
Tank?

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah, I wish, I hope so.
Shut him up.
Yeah, let's get there.
Shut him up, tank Yo shut himup, but we'll preview Tank.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Come back in a little later.
We got to talk about my guyalso on this card.
This card was great.
It was entertaining as fuckbesides trick or, but it was
entertaining as fuck.
This card, big bang zang.
He fucked up everyone's parlay,oh my god.
But legit is legit and I knowyou're gonna, you're gonna hear
that at time and time again Ilike him, I like, I like for a

(18:21):
heavyweight.
He puts combos together.
This was like that last fightwhen he beat that big mountain
of a man like I didn't reallycare, this was a I like him.
After this one, this was adefining fight for him and yo,
he got knocked down.
Zhang Got back up.
I texted Willie.
I said yo, but I don't know,man, zhang needs a knockdown he
could get.
He said that Knocks him down.

(18:42):
I went crazy.
I was in my sister's backyard.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
I was like, fuck, I was in the same shit.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
But what Ajit showed me is he could bounce back
because he fucking that wasn'tlike a flash knockdown.
He got knocked down.
You know what?

Speaker 1 (18:53):
it is.
I know, you know what it isZayn fucking.
He did it again.
He did it again.
I think that was Parker when Iwas talking about right before
we got tired.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yeah, he got tired.
This one, this one, he let him,he let him, he let him rock
again.
This was a little different tome, because Ajit's plan from the
second round on was I'm, I'mattacking that body and dude you
see how red his body was in thesecond round.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
So Zhang.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Never in the ring to me, he never looked like 40 plus
.
You know what I mean.
The minute Ajit startedattacking that body I look, I go
wow, he looks like an old mannow.
Like it hit.
He aged after those body shotsby a jit like that and zhang's
my guy.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
I'm a big zhang man.
Whoever told him, just go athim and his body was smart as
hell because the first round didnot work.
No, no, no, the first round.
He said we're gonna move around, yeah, yeah, okay, now I'm
stepping right to him.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Don't care what he throws it's gonna he's gonna be
a problem for people he's gonnabe, especially if he go into the
body and he showed he couldbounce back from a knockdown.
He's gonna be a real real, youcan stick to a game plan this is
the body was the main part ofthe whole card.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Literally they say the whole card, if some, if
people could go to the body theywas gonna win.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
You're right.
You're right, the whole card.
But like I've never seensomeone age like that after a
body shot.
It was like it was like he waswhole and then all of a sudden,
zayn, he went down bro he looked40 something.
He looked 40 and that bellydown.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Once he didn't get up that belly was red he looked
like he had once and then get upright uh, twice I think.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
I think Like sort of the ref, like stopped it for
some reason.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, that was weird, yeah, he was like falling down.
I was like Zayn is back by theSaturdays.
Yo, zayn just got a free call.
Yeah, that was weird A freebreak.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
But now, yeah that finally he just kept attacking
the body, Attacking the bodydown somebody again.
I know I just said it like twoor three times, but I'm gonna
say two or three more times.
I never saw someone age likethat from body shots like yeah,
he literally looked like an oldman.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Then I'm like, holy shit, what happened you?
You like we forget.
Well, I definitely forgot howold he was.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, even when they said it even when he gets tired,
though when he gets tired hedoesn't look like, but when he
started ripping you, you justsaw his face.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
When they even said it to me on a TV screen, I'm
like damn, he's 40-something.
Like what His face too.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
He don't look old.
In real life he don't look old.
It was like a filter.
It was like an Instagram filter.
He's like a A jit Ba-ba-ba-body.
I look Damn yeah, you're beingweird now.
Nah yo, zayn, yo Zayn, zayn,zayn, zayn.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Zayn Zayn.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Zayn, zayn, zayn, zayn, zayn, zayn, zayn, zayn
Zayn.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Zayn, this is another thing.
This is another thing becausethis is what I wanted to say.
I just remembered, with thisSaudi shit, bro, and this Riyadh
season and Turkish paying allthese people Turk, Turk, Not the
Turkish, but Turk.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Turk, whatever Al-Ashiq, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Yo, everybody is getting paid, right, yeah, so a
lot of these motherfuckers comein here untrained.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
You ever play Undisputed.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
They come in here untrained and ready to get a
check A lot of them, I'm like yo.
This is crazy.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
That brings us to our next heavyweight, who also
showed balls Martin Bacoli.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
That wasn't his fault .

Speaker 2 (22:21):
but I got a lot of texts from boxing fans People
that watch boxing kind ofreligiously like us and they
were so shocked and I'm like itwas hard for me.
I'm like, what are you shockedabout?
Joseph Parker had a full camp.
This guy got.
He flew in Bacoli, got in thereat 2 am, dude, he still had
swamp ass from the plane, hisbooty was still wet from the

(22:42):
sweat on the plane.
And when you're 300 somethingpounds on a plane, dude, think
of how stiff you are.
It takes like two or three daysto really get that.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
You think he said the jet 2am?
Dude, you think he said the jet?
No, I think he was showingvideos of him walking through
the airport.
Oh man, he said he flew spirit,he flew spirit, he flew spirit
to the fight, I think so man, ohman, dude 2 am and jet lag.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
He flew spirit?
Let me find out, bro.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
And props to him.
He got paid handsomely.
But damn Damn Joseph Parker man.
He came in here like JosephParker is on a mission.
He came in here like JosephParker is on a mission.
He's on a mission, he wantsbelts.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
He wants belts and the fact that he took on.
He's the boogeyman.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
I guess, but to me not really.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
He was so-called a boogeyman.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
He's a dangerous fighter, but dude, Joseph Parker
trained his ass off for a fightversus dubois, whose whose
output is crazy, right for theheavyweights, so he's in peak
cardio.
People were shocked.
I'm like the guy got off theplane a few hours ago, like what
are you shocked about?
This is heavyweight, differenttier boxing, like and and the

(24:01):
grays.
When you look at the replay ofthe shot that knocked him down,
the shot before that but coleyate and shook it off, did you
look at the replay of the shotthat knocked him down?
The shot before that, bacoliate and shook it off, did you
see that that was a clean shotby Parker?
I thought that was going to puthim out, but then the grazed
one when he saw that that hithim right above the temple, dude
, and there's nothing you coulddo that 315 pounds just folded.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
He lost his leg.
He didn't even like.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
He kind of knew.
He knew it too, though I thinkhe could have recovered and at
least wrapped up.
He was like nah, I'm out ofhere, I'm gonna get my money.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
He'll be back though Heavyweight.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Heavyweights are so fun, man Yo, they are lit so fun
.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
They are lit, bro.
One punch can change the wholegame, the whole game, the whole
game plan.
We saw a whole bunch of upsets.
Everybody I thought Cody wasgonna come in and get heavy and
then fuck.
Nah.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yo, he did.
He could still he's naturalheavy hands.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah, he's just so flat it looked like he was About
to catch him too.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
He was catching him With an uppercut.
It looked like he rocked.
He had Dubois gloves on.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
You saw that DDD.
He had Danny Dubois Gloves on.
That's crazy.
He had nothing Like this.
He literally had swamp ass.
He got off the plane.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
He had old shorts on.
Let's just look.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Tight in there.
Still had like.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Fucking this just barely fit.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Still had the plain peanuts In his pocket.
Swamp ass.
Whatever man and that justshows he's, even with the loss,
like you can't take anythingaway from him.
He he went there, got his bagand took a knockout.
It is what it is.
That's all he's.
He's.
He's chilling, bro.
The fight before that thoughcalum smith versus uh joshua
botsy that was a great fight,dude, that was.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
That was a great props to both them.
Calum, did you watch it?

Speaker 2 (25:40):
yeah, yeah, I watched that full one calum's.
Calum smith turned back theclock, bro, bro turned back the
clock.
Yeah, he boxed his ass off andBazzi, dude, he takes a hit.
Yo, I'm like he's going to godown.
There's no way.
There's no way.
And he is just lasting.
He's tough.
He learned from this fight.
They both learned, I think,from this Macaulay's dad.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Is he Macaulay's dad?

Speaker 2 (26:03):
I don't know he fights out of the UK, oh Ghana.
He's born in Ghana, accra, ghana.
Yo, I've been to Ghana.
Yo, they treat me like I was aking.
That shit was awesome.
I went on a date there too.
Dead ass this chick took I wenton a date.
She had fucking, yeah, ghanapeople when we were leaving,
yeah, they did Stupid when weleft.

(26:28):
When I left, though, she's likeokay, can you buy me a laptop
so we can communicate I'm like Igotta go, I gotta get out of
here.
You don't fucking laptop.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
I gotta get you boy, Can we communicate?
Buy me a laptop.
That shit was funny.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
How much that shit was funny.
How much of that I was there, Idon't know.
I was there for like a month onsome military shit.
But ghana was awesome.
No, for real, shout out to thatcountry.
They really are like they.
I've been to a lot of countriesin africa for real, probably
like 20.
They, that was like sick.
They treated me like a legitking.
I was like this is fuckingawesome.
But uh, yeah, now I'm oh yeah,I'm just here again.
But I didn't get a.
I got my own laptop, but, yeah,back to that fight.

(27:10):
Yo, did you see his fit?
Kalem Smith's fit?
Oh yeah, jordan.
Jordan got to make boxing boots, bro, like they got to make
their own.
They got to bring back the RoyJones Jr Freaking Andre Ward's
shoes.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Cause, like this shoe surgeon, coach Jerry got a pair
.
Oh, the old school ones.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
He only had one shoe, though.
Yo, that'd be fire if Jadacould fit those yeah.
That would be fire Nice If hehad found both, I guess, coach.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Jerry's nasty feet in there, man.
But yo, jordan needs to makeboots again because the shoe
surgeon guy keeps making theseJordan ones.
They look hot, but he keepsmaking them, he keeps making
them.
You don't get sued for that.
Actually, yo, I don't know, butLorenzo's brother, he had like
a pair on too, that he got doneup.

(27:58):
It looked hot.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Damn, I wish I went.
Yeah, dude, that was fun.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Oh my God.
And then we went to the clubafter, or whatever, you went to
the club too.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah, that's why I'm an idiot.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Lorenzo left, you said yeah, he had something
going on with his family so hehad to go to Philly.
He had to fly to Philly, buthis mom was out there, his whole
family.
Yeah, his, I'll tell you, I'lltell you, but his, the whole
team was out there, so it wascool.
They were all partying with us.
It was awesome.
That was fine, oh yo, you knowthere was a lot of Jarrell
Miller was there.
I didn't see him.
I saw he posted a picture ofhis dude was sitting right by me

(28:35):
.
Who else?

Speaker 1 (28:36):
He probably seen you.
He's probably like yo yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
I swear I'm like yo and I forgot he lives out there.
But yo the Hard Rock.
The event itself.
You know, smaller card, butreal fun, real fucking fun.
Who was the main?

Speaker 1 (28:50):
fight on there.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
I don't know.
We went to a club, but I wasjust there for Lorenzo and the
Medina family.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
After that, y'all left.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Yeah, but it was fun, man, it was fun.
And you know how I get with thetequila going.
There's a chick from the bronxfighting um, maureen, maureen
o'shea.
That was cool to see.
You know I was going crazy, uh.
But yeah, good, good night,great day of boxing.
Just why was it not on all themainstream outlets?

(29:17):
Like I get to zone, but espnhad fighters on there too.
Like well, top rank, like itshouldn't be, they're fucking up
with that.
They are really fucking up withthat.
Unless you threw a fight partyfor yourself, maybe they're just
cheap at the casinos, butanother fight that we have to
talk about, my guy, virgil OrtizJr.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Oh yeah, I forgot about that fight.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Versus Israel, the always tough Israel Madrimov.
After the first four or fiverounds of this fight I'm like
come on, ortiz, catch this dudeplease.
I hope this dude doesn't fight,catch me if you can.
And then what does he do?
Starts cutting the ring off,attacking that body.
Bro, did you see the clip wherehe pawed the glove down?

(30:01):
So Madrimov went up to coverhis head and he fucking ripped
the body.
It was it.
Shakur actually feels like I'mnot gonna lie, this was awesome.
Like that's some like iq shit.
Yeah, now virgil ortiz jr iscalling out for a belt that that
division is pretty stacked, 154.
Yeah, I'm just glad he's likemaking the weight at, uh, super
welter.

(30:21):
Um, listen, listen, he's kindof like a high-risk, low-reward,
still Virgil Ortiz Jr.
But there is a lot of names inthere that have belts that he
could.
He could fight.
I mean he wants the TerrenceCrawford fight.
I'm sure Sebastian Fundorawould be a fun fucking fight.
Him versus Sebastian Fundora,versus Ortiz versus Sebastian

(30:43):
Fundora.
Fundora is not going to run.
That is a fun, fun fight.
Ortiz is not going to run.
No, the way he comes, thepressure he applies, man, he's
skilled too, and the rippingshots.
Like Madrimov is tough too.
He was getting ripped up to thebody standing.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
I thought he was going to end up winning, but he
couldn't run for that long.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
There's Bakrim Mutsavilov I always say his name
wrong, but Bakrim is anothertough, tough Eastern European.
That's what they're saying.
They're actually saying thatVirgil Ortiz is ducking him.
I don't know.
Xander Zayas, that's anotherguy.
They had like some back andforth beef.
I think Virgil Ortiz Jr, hedon't want no part two.
Nah, I don't think so, butZayas is calling him out.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Zayas said like yo, you ducked.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
You took Madrimov, if they were to fall in the garden
.
Tim Zhu, tim Zhu there's a lotof names that For Set up for
great, great fights Shit, I'll.
I'll watch Bujacek again too.
So I heard Bujacek.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
I'll watch him again.
Um, shout out to, uh, marioLopez and Steve Kim, though they
had like a fight Party fortheir little Little, fight party
for their little little.
Their big actual good podcast,not like ours, but they um,
booyah, check was there.
That was cool.
That's like my goal, though, todo fight parties like that,
like at a bar somewhere.
Yeah, fighters, yeah, fight it.
Whoever fighters come, I got yo, I'm gonna move to florida too.

(32:08):
That was hollywood florida.
Man was cool as shit.
You like florida, I likeflorida.
The weather is not like.
They were like.
Oh, it's a little chilly whenwe land 70 degrees.
Yeah, I'm like it was snowingwhile I'm waiting for the train
out here.
Yeah, I don't know, chilly.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
I took my hoodie off, man.
That shit stayed off.
Waste management at Florida.
Let me know, man.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yeah, man, I got to get in my bank account until I
get paid, all my bills are due.
Buy some merch, buy some merch,that's it.
What else is on that card,though?
I'm missing something.
The main card oh shit, yeah,the main event.

(32:47):
That's how good the card was,though.
See the main card Dimitri Bivol, the new and the new,
undisputed light heavyweightchampion of the world.
What'd you think about thatfight, willie?
Did you think the scoring wasright?
Hell, no, no, you thought BFdid it.
Huh, you thought it was wrong.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
I mean, you could have gave it to either way.
Either way you could have gaveit to him, but you know what a
key factor.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
I feel like they both did better than last fight, but
one guy did something a littlemore better, and that was Bivel.
So he's changed up.
Where, in those spots, the lastfight, where he would just
shell up and not throw, he camethrowing, so he was more active.
A couple of rounds, he didn'tdo shit, yeah, in the middle.
But then when he saw thathappening and opened up again,

(33:38):
opened up again, doing justenough to catch the eye.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
I don't like this.
The 116 to 112.
That was crazy.
Yeah, it's a little much.
I don't understand how the fuckthey scored this shit.
I don't know what was conqueredby it.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
I think the right man won.
Though I think the right manwon.
Bivel did enough, in my opinion.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
I feel like they both was touching arms and gloves.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
But you could say that the last time too, you
could say that the last time,the only thing this arc to keep
on forgetting to do.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Bro, body, the body bro.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
He tried.
He went to the body A littlemore.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
First one, two, the first couple of rounds he
stopped and then he was tryingto go back to that body.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
I'm like yo, you got to go to the body until he's
through.
Slow the hell down, bro.
They're both kind of bad bodypunchers.
They're not good at going tothe body.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
But Bivou did way more to the body because he was
throwing combinations with bodyso like one, two.
So after one, two, like one,two.
All right.
So Arthur, one, two, three.
One, two, one, two.
This is going to sound crazy.
One two, and then one, two,three, four, five, six, seven,
eight.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
That's Bibble One, two three, four, five, six,
seven, eight so that's what Imean, and then move.
That's what I mean One, two,three, four, five, my, opinion
to win?

Speaker 1 (34:59):
um, I still don't.
You can still make an argument.
I guess I don't really see itwas a really good.
I don't know how they reallyjudge it, but I feel like I feel
like this was made for, uh,part three, and this is getting
wwe shit man.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
So most likely we're gonna get, we're gonna get a
three world boxing federation.
I don't even want a threebecause I want benavidez versus
one of them.
Yeah, yeah, that's why he wasthere.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
I hope that's what we get.
But then I seen a clip.
I mean I seen thepost-conference, post-press
conference, yeah, and your man'sbibble was talking about I
might try Cruiserweight, I mighttry something else.
Now you're not trying to givehim a rematch.
You know what's hard After hegave you a fucking rematch.

(35:40):
You're not trying to giveArthur a rematch, and he gave
you a fucking rematch.
This is bullshit.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
What is cool about Beterbiev and Bivel is that
promotion-wise right.
They both suck promotion-wise.
I don't know if it's thelanguage barrier Beterbie have
showed a little more personalitythis time, but the language
barrier.
It's hard to promote these twoguys right, they're just pure
fighters.
But you don't need.
Their fights are so good thatthat's how great they are.

(36:06):
You just need them two to fightand it promotes itself.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
You don't really need to promote that.
I just think that people lovethe better skilled person at
this point.
He did His output was way morethan it was last fight In spots
where you could have Everybody'slike, oh he won twice.
No, the fuck he did not.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Arthur won the first one, the first one I backed.
I don't say clearly you canstill argue, you can still argue
, but it's more on his side.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
You can argue this one but can argue, but it's more
um on his side, hey I guess,argue this one, but it looked
like it looked like it's more onbivouac's side I guess we could
get a third, but man age iscoming, he's oh yeah and he's
like, and you know he's humblebro, arthur is fucking humble
bro that's what I mean, though.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Both of them are so polite and nice and, like he is,
they just fight like they'rejust he's like maybe it's my
time to come back.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
He didn't cry about no, nothing he like, uh, he's a
promoter not saying something.
No, like eddie earns.
Like, oh, he won the firstfight.
And then the other guy took himout uh, 14, 14, his manager,
whatever trainer like, oh, thisjudge need to be checked.
No, the 116, 112 judge need tobe checked.

(37:19):
Yeah, because it was closerthan that.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
I think, though, benavidez has a better shot at
Bivel than Better B, juststyle-wise.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Yeah Now, oh, the styles.
I would love to see the names.
It's the names for me, whatit's the names.
Better's the names for me, whatit's the names?
Better Vidas, better Vidas,better Vidas, the fucking poem
it's like, because that's why Icall him Arthur all the time.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
I say Arthur and David, because Better Vidas I
think, though, better Vidas,because the way Better Vidas is
a style where he walks up likethat and like when better be of
his throwing those punches andlike hitting your arms and the
styles there to be hit.
I know his defense is betterthan it appears, benavidez, I
just think Bivel, he, he, hegobbles him up.

(38:10):
I think he gobbles Bivel up,man.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
You think who got Benavidez you?

Speaker 2 (38:13):
think who Benavidez?
Oh yeah, I think Benavidezgobbles Bivel up.
I know Bivel's going to get offsome shots.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Because David is like he's not a slugger, right, but
it's like a boxer slugger it'slike a boxer puncher.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
It's kind of like a style you can't really train for
.
And he's coming forward yeah,he's coming and Bivel boxes well
off the back foot but what kindof, yeah, what kind of style is
he?

Speaker 1 (38:40):
because it's more, um , uh, I would say like arthur is
like more of a, just a puncher,so he's, he's more.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
There's something too we're missing, textbook we're
missing and props to bivel forhis chin, but he only has one
knockout in his last, like tenfights.
He's not known for his knockoutability.
Like he's really slick and good.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
I don't feel like it's just like he beat Canelo.
Now everybody riding a wave.
He beat Canelo, he's sotalented?

Speaker 2 (39:10):
No, he did.
He beat the shit out of Canelo.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
He's so talented, which is that is good though
that that is, good though thatis, you can't say.
But I'm just saying like theyjust like ride the Colts.
So oh, he beat Canelo.
Oh, canelo's like right here toeverybody.
He beat Canelo, so he's righthere Now.
So he's like yo.
He beat Arthur the first time.
He beat Arthur the second.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
He 2-0.
No, bro, but those two nameslike not the first time, but now
he has Canelo and Arthur.
If you beat David, oh man, butnow those two names are pretty,
Say you beat them like come on,I love this for David, bro, I
love this for David.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
He's finally going to get a fight, because they're
not going to fucking.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
He moved up for that.
He said I moved up for that,he's not going to.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
They're not going to, no, but your man's talking
about Bivel, he's talking aboutgoing to Cruiserweight, so this
is weird.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Yeah, but he's not well-spoken.
We don't know what the fuckhe's saying.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
No, he knows what the fuck he's saying.
He's like I don't want to fightArthur again.
No, he does.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
No, he don't Like.
Oh, I need a break that wasalready thinking of it.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
I need a break, like December they do, but you know
think about that toll thosefights took.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
They're slugging.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
They are slugging, yeah, because he was getting
beat the fuck up.
Nah, dude, it was a good fight.
Arthur was punching him.
Arthur was like I'm going to gonext week.
Arthur, they are, arthur, gonext year.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Well, arthur needs to go next week because he's
getting old man.
Look at Zang.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Once someone starts touching that body, Arthur too,
man, he don't like those bodyshots.
He's chilling.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
He's not.
He didn't get hurt, not onetime.
Biffle looked like he got hurtlike a late round Nah.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Yeah, hurt like like a late round.
Nah, yeah, that one time, itwas like that one time.
Yeah, bring it up.
This guy just this guy lovesarthur man.
I like him, he's cool, he'scool, they both.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Again I'm saying, I mean he's not the the most
skilled, but I feel like he hispowers he just sit.
He's punching him every time.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
I don't know I don't this, I don't know how they
judge this shit.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
I'm so fucking confused.
Is it WWE or the fucking boxing?

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Nah, these two fighters, though man, are the
closest thing we have to thoseold school glory days of boxing
wars.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
The trilogy is going to happen and I'm here for it,
and it sucks that they're notAmerican.
Bro, eastern Europeans, take itover, bro.
Yo, this shit is crazy.
We need Americans to stopBenavidez, though.
They need to start fighting.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Benavidez, benavidez is coming.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
He's the only one that's not afraid to fight
everybody.
The style doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Go 15 rounds Shit right, it was a great card.
It was good to see Bivol won.
He worked really hard anddeservingly so you could tell
how grateful he was too.
And they both again, they botharen't dickheads, they both are
just like oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
That's the only reason why I don't know, but
they don't need to.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
When the best fight the best, you don't need to talk
.
You don't need to talk.
You know what I mean.
You don't need to be TO sayingall this racial shit.
You don't need to be TerrenceCrawford I'm not a bully.
Put your arm around him, oreven when Tank and Crawford were
going at it, the insults.
These two fight, they fight.
These two fight each other andthat's what you want to see, man

(42:35):
, and we, as boxing fans, got tobe grateful for that, and we're
going to get a third one whichI don't really need to see.
I want Benavidez.
I want to change now.
I want Benavidez, yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
But it's going to be at least a year.
Please bring it here.
Yeah, don't do it over there.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
And let's do it.
Let's do it Like let poll right, but I need to call turk and be
like yo.
Like you need to promote it inthe states.
Like every bar should haveshowed this whole card, this
whole card.
You know what I mean.
This whole card should havebeen on again in every fucking
bar.
Like I shouldn't have to searchand dig to find a boxing fight.
I should go to the local shittysports bar.

(43:09):
Like hey, put on this channel,I want to watch this fight.
Boring ass people and like thiswas a card where it would bring
people in, because every fightwas good, like you know what I
mean.
So this would have broughtpeople in.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
I didn't feel it.
I didn't feel the atmosphere?

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Yeah, I know it's getting a little better.
I don't know.
They must be bringing in somealcohol or something, because it
is getting a little louder, areyou sure?

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Yeah, but no probably he's a great fight.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
You know what it is Like these, these billionaires,
right, they love status.
So he just wants famous people,fame.
You know what I mean.
You need the hooligans.
I've said this before.
You need me getting almost beatup in the crowd, like you need
the hooligans.
You need to.
You need fucking a guy crackingjokes, screaming obscenities,
like you need that for thatenergy Shit.

(43:55):
Even New York needed us, well,every fight.
Well, nah, you know, because,like you, go to Cali, the Latino
fan base, we ain't shit.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
We ain't shit.
How was they in Florida?

Speaker 2 (44:09):
It was a small crowd, so it was me.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
Yeah, it was just you there.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Some guy, though I'm yelling because O'Shea was
fighting and she's from theBronx, like legit.
So I'm like let's go Yankees,like fucking around, because
she's a Yankee fan from theBronx, of course.
Right, some dude goes, let's goDodgers.
I'm like I guess you didn't getmy joke.
She's from the Bronx, you idiot.
Sit your ass down.
No, it was good.
It was good.

(44:34):
It was very small, small, liketheater.
It was a theater, you know.
So it was.
You hear everything, uh, but itwas awesome.
The entrances were awesome,like, oh yeah, yeah, the
entrances were sick.
I'd go, and then you're in thecasino.
So you just pop out and nowyou're drinking at the casino
again.
I didn't gamble because I wasso drunk, luckily, but it don't
matter, because I spent enoughon drinks where, uh, but yeah,

(44:56):
no, great, great, and I'mexcited for Lorenzo, he's our
guy and yeah, he's only 20.
It's crazy.
He's only 20 years old, bro,it's still fucking absurd.
But yeah, that's really it.
You want to get into a littleTank Davis quick show, quick
fucking show.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
I've been watching the him getting his nails done.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
Nah, fuck you.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
This weekend.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
He'd just be chilling , bro, he'd be chilling.
This fight is really to putRoach on.
I guess it's really to makeRoach a bag.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Or to another fight where I'm just going to give you
the odds real quick.
I'm going to give you the oddsreal quick.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
The odds of the boxing.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
On DraftKings, there are odds.
Tank Davis is a minus 1600favorite.
It's time for Tank Davis tofight someone where he's not a
minus 1600.
And there's names out there.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
You know what I mean.
Which one to be?
Who would be the 150?
Like?

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Tio or Shakur.
I mean he's 140.
Tio's at 140, so we got toscratch him.
But Shakur, Shakur Tank is thebiggest fight.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
The biggest fight.
Yeah, I mean they're going tohave to fight, but Tank's, I
mean they're going to have tofight.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
But Tink's, this is his problem.
And now I know you're startingto see it Like.
Here we are again.
He's fighting Lamont Roach andyou just said it's to put him on
right.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
I mean it's the same for all of them.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
I guess Not really.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
It's pretty much.
The only one that fought for abelt was whatchamacallit what
kishon I.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
I will say, though, he was supposed to fight loma,
so tank was gonna fight loma,and that's, that's gonna, that's
good maybe it was too late, Ithink.
Yeah, but no, that fight I wasloma.
Loma backed out of that,whatever he's.
I guess he's getting hurt, buthe's being mad religious.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Lately I noticed like super religious loma found
jesus, you gotta call him manyeah, it's called boxing uh no
wait, no, this is this is what Iwant to know how long they
gonna let a llama hold that?

Speaker 2 (47:01):
yeah, that, that's true, though that's true, like
that's what it is to, that like,give him a mandatory or
something and they doing favorswhen, when is he gonna fight and
defend the belt or something?
Yeah, they got it we don't careabout no unification right now.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
You gotta something, they gotta anything they strip,
everyone else they they're notstripping him and we don't care
about no unification right now.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Something, anything, they strip everyone else.
They're not stripping him.
There's no even rumors of what.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
How long has it been since he fought?

Speaker 2 (47:27):
I'd have to look it up, but his last fight, I think,
was when he got the belt versusKambosis.
That was last year.
Yeah, it wasn't that long ago,but there's no rumors or
anything like that was a wholeyear ago maybe.
Uh, yeah, 5, 12, april, 12th.
Yeah, so about a year now.
Okay I mean, that's not bad huh,he fought once in 2023, once in

(47:51):
2024.
Yeah, he's got a fight.
Man he's, I know he's and tanks.
Right when he said that he waslike, oh you know, loma, then
ducked me, he's got to fight.
Man he's, I know he's andtank's.
Right when he said that he waslike, oh you know loma, then
ducked me, he's just, I think hejust can't get up for the fight
now, like he's done a lot, he'sdone.
You know what I mean.
So he's honest, bro.
Yeah, yeah, who tank?

Speaker 1 (48:06):
yeah, he'd be yeah I like tank.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
I don't want you, I just want, I like, I just want
to watch a tank fight I want tosee him fight.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
I want to watch tank fight somewhere.
I'm I'm not mad at it, becauseeverybody else does it.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Well, because Loma literally backed out of this
fight.
Like Tank said, I'm not too mad.
That fight was supposed tohappen, but oh my God, minus
1,600, bro.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
But I feel like this guy is going to.
I feel you seen Rose fightbefore they have a past.
He's fucking skilled.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Yeah, they have a past.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
He's skilled fucking skilled yeah, they have a skill,
but I don't got pop powerthough.
Yes, he got sneaky power, youguys, he's plus 900, but he got
dropped by jamal.
That's the scary part.
You got jamal, harry put somerespect on jamal harry, you know
he live out here and shit, youknow he got.
He got people's out.
Yo, that's my first everinterview.
Damn Jamel Herring, but he's,I'm just saying he got dropped

(49:02):
by Jamel.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
From.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
Corum.
Imagine if he or no Longwood,Longwood Imagine if he get.
Imagine if Tank hit him.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
You know where Lamont Roach's best way to win is,
everybody's way to win versusTank.
Tank's going to come.
He's not going to throw a lotin the beginning.
He's going to apply pressure,apply pressure, and then he's
going to download the data, kindof like Loma used to do.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
He does, yeah, and then he's going to hit you with
one shot.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
And now, if you could like Frank Martin, remember the
uppercut?
Was it uppercut?
Yeah, I think it was uppercut,like it's going to be something.
Yeah, he's going to hit youwith something.
That uppercut was crazy, butthe same thing Frank was doing.
Decent, he's a client, but thenhe got.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
You know, I feel like we didn't even see.
That's why he need to fight.
He need to fight Shakur, so wecan see how much is in his bag.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Everybody says it Same thing with All the fighters
that know him and shit mentionlike yo, this, yo, you didn't
see the best tank yet, and he'she.
And he does look in shape.
He lost a lot of weight, sohe's focused in shape.
He's small as hell, bro, he'stiny.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
He's smaller than me, so I I could I understand why
he's smaller than me, bro, whenI went to the.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
He's like an inch for , like you know, a lot of these
fighters that we forget becausewe see them on tv.
They look, look big, but likein person, like, like, even to
you, I'm like to is not bigeither, I'll take shit he's like
I'm taking shit's bigger thanyou, man, so it's like it's like
yo.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
This guy is small.
I can see why he don't want tojust keep on going like go up.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Nah, yeah, 140 140 is pretty, pretty heavy for him.
I see, 135 is perfect, I think,and that's what he is.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
And listen, I'm I want to see him versus Shakur,
because Shakur is still callinghim out.
I think that's probably thenext fight.
I think so.
If Loma's not going to fight, Ithink that's fine, you got to
see that with PBC.
But then if he fight, right, he?
Well, first of all, tank, don't, he's not.
He already know, he already seethe bullshit.

(50:56):
He said it himself.
He's like Yo, you gonna throw,you gonna throw like 15 Ferraris
at me or something.
If you go over there, yeah,yeah, and you don't get the
knockout On.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Shakur, You're losing .
I think Turk feels a littleDisrespected too that all these
fighting tanks Like I'm notgoing over there, Fuck you.
Like he's a little.
To was saying that at first.
Now TO's over there.
He's like oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Yeah, that's the way our boy Tim Tim Bradley, he was
like oh Shakur, he was like yo,tank, I like you.
Now I like you, I like you,tank, I like you.
He's like.
But if you go over there andkiss that ring and go back on it
, back what you said, it's goingto be some problems.
Go back on it.
Back what you said it's goingto be some problems.

(51:37):
I'm going to find you.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Tim Bradley's tune is going to change soon, because
now they're with the Zone andthey own 13%.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Now you got to kiss the ring.
That's the worst.
This is the worst part I don'tlike.
Now I'm starting to see theproblem with this shit.
Yeah, I'm starting to see theproblem.
When he did that shit and theycaught it on camera that he over
here fucking with the cards andfucking with the judges, even
with Tyson Fury.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
Tyson Fury, he like loves, like loved Tyson Fury.
He wanted Tyson Fury to beatUsyk.
He was.
He was doing some Fugazi shitwith that.
I forget what exactly, but someweird behind the scenes shit.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
Listen, this is not good for this.
Listen, this is not good forthis.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Coming to light is not good for boxing, because
that's what he said he wasn'tgoing to do.
And now everybody's seeing it,they created another belt.
There's another fucking.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
You seen that shit, the blue belt, the blue one, it
looks cool.
It says Undisputed it saysUndisputed with what happened to
the other one.
With Bibu and them names on it.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
With Bibu and them names on it.
But what happened to the otherone, the black, undisputed belt?
That's what I said.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
I said and that one looked like too much like UFC.
Anyway, they should have gotrid of it.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
Belts it looked like that's a job in itself to hold
these fucking belts.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
Yeah, they had the ring magazine.
They had that.
That's the only belt to me.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
The ring magazine belt is like the man who beat
the man, and that's what theydid that for, so that's a great
belt.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
Yeah, they done doing too much, bro.
They brung it.
I text you.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
I'm like yo I know I'm like I don't know what the
fuck is that blue belt?

Speaker 1 (53:13):
I thought it was like you know how they have the
Aztec warrior WBC belt whenMexicans fight each other?
Yeah, that's the one.
I didn't know which one thatwas either.
Isaac Cruz was fighting forthat shit, but what do you think
?

Speaker 2 (53:23):
What do you think you think I might bet the over just
for fun?
Eight and a half rounds, it'sminus 115.
Oh, that's a good bet.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
I'm going to bet the over, because I think Roach
knows what he has to do andknows what he has to stay away
from.
You know, tank didn't matterhere like eighth and ninth round
.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Yeah, that's where you're going.
I'm going Tank knockout too.
I think they're both fromMaryland.
They know have a past.
Apparently, lamont Roach islike yeah, when we were 12, I
beat the shit out of him.
But yeah, I'll fuck my bully upnow I'll fuck him up.
He used to fuck me up when Iwas 12.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
The first round, lamont going to show his talents
and shit, but yo, this guy'spretty good and he's going to
get knocked out.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
I think it's going to be boring and get a paycheck.
I think it's going to be boringuntil Tank starts getting
anxious and letting his hands go.
I mean that's regular every nowand then.
Yeah, Lamont knows what heneeds to do.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
He make people go blind.
Yes, yes, he did Yo.
That shit was crazy.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Hector couldn't see, he's like yo, he's like.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
Ah, my eye.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Imagine Tank Tio Like 135, I know, because 140 is a
little heavy.
So or they get a catch weight,Something Tio walk into
something Nah.
Tank might walk into something.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
Tio, you've never seen Tank on the floor.
Nah, you see, tio.
Yeah, because he's, yeah,because he's mentally crazy.
Yeah, you're going to see TOtouch the canvas.
I like TO man.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
You've seen TO fight some.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
He fought some dogs.
He shows up.
He shows up in every fight.
That's going to be a greatfight.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
If that ever happens?
Yeah, but no, I think so TO.
Speaking of that, the Ryan Garthis is actually in the city
we're going.
It's the free fight.
Apparently, allegedly they'redoing a fight in Central Park or
Times Square.
They're doing a fight in TimesSquare, this Saudi stuff, and
they say it's free.
So it's going to be jam-packedfor the Ryan Garcia fight.

(55:12):
That's going to be insane.
He's going to start crying outthere what's his name ryan
garcia verse.
Uh, haney, no, um, the funny guy, roly, roly, yeah, and then teo
, teo.
Apparently rumor has it,tiafimo is going to be on the
undercard in that fight versuseither stevenson or um, what the
fuck's his name?
The dude, yeah, I meanrichardson hitchens, not

(55:33):
stevenson.
My bad richard hitchens.
Or fucking fucking the dudethat.
Just why are you being aundercard?
The mandatory he's a biggername.
Yeah, but just because I'll fithim in there.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Whatever, roley is a funny.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Not the undercard, but the co-main event.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
Roley is a funny dude bro.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Hey, I'm here for it, whatever.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
Did you see Roley interviews?
He is freaking out a lot.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
Yeah, he's also a little punchy.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
Yo, he is so funny.
He's like the first.
He was having a whole interviewplaying Fortnite.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
That is funny.
Yo, he's a clown.
I did like the lead up forRoley.
Tank is probably one of myfavorite.
Yeah, because Tank was being alittle zesty, as usual.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
And then Roley was just like what the hell are you?

Speaker 2 (56:24):
wearing Roley is funny as hell.
He is funny man.
But yeah, boxing is great.
So we had great fights.
There's more great fights downthe pipe.
I'm curious after this fight,no matter what happens, even if
it goes the distance and Tankwins, whatever I'm curious to
see what Tank does next.
He says he's done with boxing.
Nah, I'm curious to see what hedoes next.
He needs one like what's hisdefining fight?

(56:46):
Ryan Garcia, he needs like a.
I want to see him unify, likego unify and then I want to see
to do it.
I don't care honestly, becauseyou're a fan of his.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
But yeah, I mean he, he feels like the way he feel
like he don't need to do no more.
See like he's got his.
He made it where he came from.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
He's been fighting all his life yeah, I mean that's
fine, but he needs for fans,for fans, for us fans, please,
please be.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
yo shut up, please be .
Yo shut up Shakur.
Yo take.
Shut up Shakur.
That's all I want.
And the Shakur fans shut themup.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
Hey, I'm here for that too.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
I'm here for that.
That's the only.
That's the only one.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Shakur's style though I don't.
It's so he, really he, so he'sso fucking good at making people
miss.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
Yeah, like his style is.
It's not fun.
So what is so?
That's why I'm trying to saywhat, what is he gonna?
He's not gonna.
That padley shit, that's notgonna happen with tank, he's
gonna be.
He's not gonna, he's gonna betimid, he's not gonna do that.
So what, what?
What chico are we gonna get?
Are we gonna to get?
Are we going to get the Shakurlike De Los Santos is fucking
running, probably.
Are we going to get like jabjab?

Speaker 2 (58:04):
One thing we don't give Tank enough credit for is
the way he drowns you out whenhe cuts off the ring.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
Yeah he slows you down.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Yeah, and he like, just with his foot pressure,
like he really like.
Frank Martin's a good exampleof that.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
Yeah, frank Martin was fucking moving, he was doing
good.
And a good example of thatfight Frank Morton was fucking
moving, he was doing good.
And then he was like I'm tiredof fucking moving, I'm tired of
moving, let me sit in the corner.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Yeah, he was in the corner Like how the fuck I get
out of here.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
Shit, yeah, it's a mental breakdown.
It's a mental breakdown, butShakur is so sharp it's going to
be a freaking.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
Yeah, shakur's jab is really good too, man, really
good jab.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
I'm interested to see what Haney does.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Haney's coming back, apparently.
I want to see what he does,though Yo Tanko fight Haney.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
You wanna?
He already like Mentally fuckedup For his loss.
He went about the loss Wrong,yeah, way wrong.
So that's really yeah, he wentabout the loss.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
wrong, yeah, way wrong.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
So that's really, who fucked him up?
Yeah, he went about the losswrong, and his dad too.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
At some point.
His dad's cool as shit and hisdad's pretty much really about
it.
But hey, neitz, you're a mannow.
Daddy wasn't there to take youto the.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
That's what they try to do, right, like kind of
remove Bill a little bit.
They try to remove Bill.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
He's still tweeting for him.
That's good Stick up for yourson.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
I don't see him in training videos and shit, no
more.
I don't know he was doingfootball training videos.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
He's still yapping away about sticking up, and
that's fine, stick up for yourson, I get it, but like at some
point Haney's got to just stickup for himself, Nah, but I no.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
they real people, though.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
No, yeah, yeah.
And I met his dad twice and hisdad was awesome.
Just loved talking boxing hewas.
Let me tell you it was cool, itwas good to see, but, like man,
yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
We gotta wait and see .

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
I guess yeah, boxing's been great so by the
way, let's see if you watch thatfight this is that Saturday,
right when's March 2nd, 1st whenis that tank fight.
When is that?

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
oh, that's not, that's, that's like maybe a week
, is it?

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
It's the 24th right now.
No, it's a short month.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Oh shit, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Saturday, First right .

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
March 1st this week, yeah, this weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Yeah, bro.
This weekend, oh what the fuckyou come over.
We'll watch it here.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
We need to go to the goal, I know I mean we need to
go out to the city and then comeback.
Yeah, wait, what that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
I could change, we'll talk after.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
What else you got Anything else?

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
Let's look at the schedule coming up.
Oh, boy or chick, I mean bootsand oh yeah, we're going to that
too.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Well, I'm definitely going to that.
I'm going this March 19th toMSG Kalen Walsh a little Sunday
fight, because Monday is StPaddy's Day.
So Sunday is going to be alittle Irish.
March 29th we got MichaelaMeyer versus Sandy Ryan too.
I can't go to that because Ihave a stupid wedding.
Oh, this is another nameWilliam Zepeda man.

(01:01:20):
He's getting his rematch withTevin Farmer.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Damn good for Tevin.
That's crazy.
Tevin got a rematch.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Yeah, tevin did good, but I don't think he'll do that
twice, hopefully.
I'm rooting for Tevin.
Hell yeah, I'm rooting forTevin, but Zepeda's Ugh man, I
bet that was.
Yeah, march 1st in Brooklyn wegot Trevonta Davis versus Lamont
Roach Jr.
Oh, jose Valenzuela's fightingGary Antoine Russell actually
that's a decent fight.
And then Albert Pueyo versusSander Martin that card's not

(01:01:50):
bad.
Jarrett Hurd's making anappearance.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Wow, that's on the same card as Tank.
Yeah, valenzuela versus theygot.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
Russell on there.
Yeah, gary Antoine Russell,that's a good fight, that's a
really good fight and it's for abelt, so this card isn't that
bad.
Actually, we're just superfocused on Tank.
March 1st two Subrio Matiascomes back.
Oh shit, damn man, hey Sparring, sparring, going down Broke.
Um, yeah, that's really itRight.

(01:02:20):
Oh, eric Bazanian Is fightingSteven Butler.
March 14th Uh oh, march 15th InEngland, nick Ball comes back
Versus TJ Donahue.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
Donnie Nick Ball.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Yeah, he's gonna beat him, man.
That's really it.
That's all I got.
But Closing it out With my girlyeah, he's going to beat him.
That's really it.
That's all I got.
But closing it out with my girl, michaela Meyer versus Sandy
Ryan yeah, that's really it.
Sorry for the energy level inthis show, guys.
I'm dead tired because I wasout watching boxing all weekend.

(01:02:59):
You got anything else?
Close the show, nah, man, nah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
I mean They've been, they've been great, yo WWE.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
We lost every bit, so we're a little Butthurt.
Yeah, fuck I was Hella burnedman.
Again Sorry for the energylevels In this show.
Willie had to talk me Intodoing it.
Usually I'm the one alwaysready to record.
I love it, man.
We will see you pissed nextweekend, next sunday, on the
post tank fight oh yeah, that'llbe fine, we'll talk about.

(01:03:29):
We'll have a love that and uh,yeah, please like and subscribe
if you made it this far.
Uh, follow all my shit.
Oh, I, I gained.
You know how I strong armpeople to follow yeah I did a
lot of that too.
We got some more followers.
Fucking guy, uh, yeah.
Shout out again to my guy,lorenzo medina.
Fucking heavyweight with somefast ass hands.
Uh, he don't, he's justcarefree bro.

(01:03:50):
Just he almost like rolled outof bed.
Like, yeah, I gotta fight thisguy.
He looked drunk.
He fucking fucked this guy up.
Shout out to my guy, lorenzomedina, again thank you for the
hospitality.
I had a fucking blast.
Sorry, you couldn't hear megoing crazy.
That's, that's like my job.
I'm there to support youbecause you knocked his ass out
so quick and your brother did aswell.
Again, shout out to him man,that was a good.

(01:04:11):
Some good old southern floridafun.
Yeah, catch you next week.
What's your final predictionfor tank?

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Best bet is a tank knockout Seven through nine
seven through nine tank knockout.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Put it in, put it in Best bet.
Seven through nine tank.
I'll tell that.
I'll tell that too.
I'll tell that too.
Seven through nine tankknockout.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
I have tail money.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
The last time.
The last time tank fought, wewent viral because of Frank
Farton.
That shit was funny.
All right, bro, we're out.
Please like, subscribe.
Follow blah, blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah, shut up.