KT vs. SERRANO FINAL BLOWS, SHAKUR-ZEPEDA HEAT UP! NO LOVE ON THE TENNIS COURT!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's time for the main event.
It's the Sparin' Podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Oh, it's like probably episode like 150.
Nah, maybe like 100, butepisode five live.
We are here with punchlines.
He's enjoying the weather.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Uh, he surprised us wasn't gonna come, but he's
coming he's here, yeah hey yogushing we are uh oh, yeah, see
y'all, y'all started yourvanilla shit early yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Really has a point.
Nobody is coming.
We are all here.
So, that being said, we have alot to talk about, a lot of
previews going on.
Today we are coming off July4th weekend.
The fireworks flying,punchlines went viral, as usual,
with an anti-England post.

(01:06):
That weirdo I don't like.
That weirdo that commented likemade it about race some loser.
Hope it's not a friend of yours,but if it is fucking yeah yeah,
some guy was like I don't knowit was weird, but whatever it
was, uh, he posted it.
Did you see it?
No, I didn't.
He posted like a video and itwas all Americans beating up
English people.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
That's regular shit.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
It was funny though.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
I want to know how he made it about race, because I'm
fairly certain 100% of thefighters that I showed were
African American, were blackAmerican.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
I think he said something about Joe Louis versus
what's his name, the Germandude.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Oh, smelling.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Great moment in history, but not.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah.
So I wrote, I commented, Iwrote that's not, that's German,
that's not English, that's notEngland.
And then, like a few of yourother followers were like coming
back, like I think he's tryingto make this like a black-white
thing, like I think he's tryingto make this a black-white thing
.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
He's going there.
He's a fucking idiot, Ishouldn't even say the N-word.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Not that.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
N-word.
That's the dude lover, right,he was like Whatchamacallit, you
saw it right.
No, joe Louis.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
He was like the N-word.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
I don't even know if he.
That was his.
He was backed byword.
Yeah, he was with the.
I don't even know if he.
I don't know but that was his.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
He was backed by them .

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Yeah, backed by them.
Yeah, Like by head-noture.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
But it's weird though , because Joe Louis talked about
when he went over there.
They were all really likeGerman people were all like
really nice to him.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah, yeah, they love black guys oh dude, dude, I
heard that from him.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, dude, I was stationed in Germany for two
years.
I lived there, bro Me, willie,willie and I need to go to
Germany one day.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
What, the what are you doing?
Why are you always trying toget me in trouble?

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Even Jesse Owens said Germany's leader at the time
was really I don't want to sayhis name because you know how
YouTube is, but Jesse Owens saystheir leader at the time, which
really I don't want to say hisname because you know how
YouTube is, but I, jesse Owenssays their leader at the time
was really nice to him.
I'm not going to defend the guyI'm not going that far.
I just found it interestingthat we were taught that he was

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mean to him I was always taughtthat he was mean to him.
But then Jesse Owens was like no, he was really nice to me.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
That's crazy.
A lot of things that we learnedis not really the truth.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yes, Not live.
I don't think we're live onInstagram, which is annoying,
but whatever, here we are.
Enough about a history.
It's 4th of July.
Summer is officially here.
Punchlines is outside catchingsome rays.
We are inside at the spa in um.
Another thing outside thatwe're going to speak on let me

(03:50):
just give you the rundown realquick is a little outdoor tennis
arena fight shakur stevensonversus william cepeda, berlanga
versus shiraz, the undercardplayovers, matias, we're going
to touch on all that.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Is the sparring going to be in the building?

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Oh yes, it is official, Willie me.
And then this dude we know thatwe're bringing just because
he's of Muslim descent.
He's a fan, Just in case.
No, I'm just kidding.
My old co-host, fossil, iscoming down to New York and we
will be sitting ringside.
I copped some ringside tickets.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Dude, that's fucking fire.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, they were pricey, but it's worth it.
It will be worth it in the end.
They're not even selling thesetickets on Ticketmaster, but we
got them, so ha.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
We are in there what if we got scammed.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Nah come on yeah, you get there and they're like this
shit's not real yeah, I'mactually like a little nervous
in a weird way, because likeit's a turkey show, you know,
and like I don't think he's usedto like, yeah, like real fans
and yeah, I should be going, hambrother yeah, I know that's
what my kick down someone I knowis actually like yo.
Why don't you try to like justbe half of what you are when

(05:04):
you're there?
So and I'm like I'll try, butlike I can't make promises stop
drinking like an hour before,two hours before yo, but I have
like a christening that earlierthat day and then a party, so
I'm coming in hot, whatever,fuck it um, are you supposed to
drink at a christening?
yeah, dude, it's catholic shit,all right, um, but yeah, we will

(05:24):
be in the building.
Spartan will be in the building.
Uh, we have again.
So there's like there's fourfloor seats, right.
What time are we going, though?
We gotta meet here.
We'll talk about that after,but we gotta meet here kind of
early.
I'll explain early.
Yeah, um, but there's fourfloor seats, right like four
sections, obviously.
There's four, four seats, rightLike four sections.
Obviously.
There's four sides to a ring,so two of the sides have like 12

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floor seats, 10 to 12 floorseats.
Then two of the other sideshave three rows, so we're on one
of the other sides in themiddle, in the second row.
So it's going to be insane.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yeah, you have retractable ring side seats.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was going to touch on that too,
and then they got the ladiesfighting at MSG.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yeah.
So you probably think, oh,everybody that's in New York is
going to be there.
Yep, like all the fighters.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
I don't think they're not selling like they thought
they were too.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
I see Alicia.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
So it will be fun, though it will be fun, I see
Alicia, oh, Speaking of thatMonday tomorrow do you want to
go there?

Speaker 1 (06:25):
and meet her.
It depends what time I get off.
I'm supposed to be getting helptomorrow, so maybe I'll get off
early.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Let me know.
We'll just shoot to the city.
Alicia Baumgardner is doingsome event in the city at the
Super Rare Fight Shop, so maybewe'll pull up there.
Say hi, yeah, that's it, I'mTeam Mikayla.
But whatever Show, love, showlove.
Say hi, yeah, that's it, I'mteam mckayla.
But whatever, show, love, show,love.
Uh, but let's stick.
Stick to the program here wehave.

(06:50):
Yeah, we're gonna speak on thegirl fight um preview.
That, honestly, I'm not gonnago too depth with that.
We're obviously gonna talkabout serrano and katie taylor.
That's a big one.
And julio cesar chavez was inthe news again for all the wrong
reasons.
Jake paul's always in the news,again for all the wrong reasons
.
Jake Paul's always in theboxing news, apparently.
Is he ranked?
Is he not ranked?
Who knows?
The world may never know, andsome other things.

(07:12):
Beter Biev was a littleoutspoken lately with what's
going on with him and DimitriBivol, but we won't touch on all
that too much.
Where do you guys want to start?
You want to just start withSerrano, Katie Taylor touch on

(07:32):
all that too much.
Where do you guys want to start?
You want to start with, uh,serrano, katie taylor.
Since that's coming up onfriday, I'm gonna let you run
the show, bro.
All right, let's do it.
Let's get right into it.
Amanda serrano versus katietaylor.
Three is amongst us, is upon us.
You know it's it's not oftenthat you you get like a buzz for
female fights like this, likeas boxing fans.
You know we always, we'llalways, be interested in who's
the hot female fight in orwhatever.
But this is like a real fighterbuzz for katie taylor and
amanda serrano and and I gottatake my hat off to them because

(07:54):
that's pretty cool I've been,I've been getting asked a lot
throughout the week, like lastweek oh, are those two chicks
fighting?
Are those two girls fighting?
Isn't that coming up?
And I'm like, oh, yeah, thatthey are like from from
non-boxing fans.
So it's really good to see thatand and it's a testament to
both of them and jake pole, yeahand you know what?

Speaker 3 (08:13):
no, sorry, willie go ahead no, you good, go ahead.
I was just gonna bring it up.
I've been watching, uh likedocumentaries on netflix lately.
Every time you walk, log intonetflix, the first thing up
there is that fight.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah, that's good as well.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah, the whole thing .
And really, though, those twofights, they're must-see TV.
So the third one has to bemust-see TV as well.
I had one dude come up to meand he was like, oh, is the
Italian chick and the Irishchick fighting?
I heard that's coming up andI'm like what?
He was on the right track, butit's still good to see.
I was like, yeah, the PuertoRican and the Irish chick are

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fighting, not the Italian, but Iknow what you mean.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
I think I'm starting to appreciate the MVP promotions
man.
They are doing their thing.
Jake is a fucking genius, bro.
If he's not going to make it inboxing marketing, he's going to
get boxes somewhere.
So that's crazy.
He's putting on a whole womancard.
Is this?
Never have this been donebefore nah, I think that's the
first thing, probably the firstone, yeah yeah, this is.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
This is crazy, which I wished.
I mean, I nothing against womenin boxing and it's awesome,
it's legendary, but I kind ofwant, I wish it was like a real
card and they just you can dolike a woman double header main
event, you know yeah like, butthey have so many like young
up-and-coming men that needpromotion as well yeah, that's
why that's what I'm saying.

(09:35):
It should be like.
It would just be cooler to seethat.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
But wait, wasn't the first two like that, though,
like yeah, it was the head theywas headlining.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
They had a whole bunch of because the last one
was a co-main event on thattyson shit yeah, yeah, yep, yep
and um yo, and they stole theshow like they stole the whole
show every time and then, andguess what, the, uh, the judges
steal it from amanda, dude I, Istill say Amanda is 2-0 against

(10:05):
her.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Me too.
No, you're a liar.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
You're a liar.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
You always keep on saying Katie wins.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Well, I was just about to go into it.
You could make an argument forKatie, but you kept on saying
she won.
You said Amanda did not winwhen you rewatch it.
When I rewatched the second one, it looked like Katie did do
enough to make an argument sincepunch been.
Yeah, no, I swear, I swear, I'myo, I'm team serrano, like I'm,

(10:31):
I'm amanda.
I'm a huge fan of amanda no,you have.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
You definitely have had her out on the feet.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
It felt like I thought she had her out on the
feet on the first fight she did,she did, and that's where I was
going to go with with thisthird fight.
Like I don't think it's humanlypossible for katie taylor to
take those punches a third time,like you know what I mean.
Like she's getting rattled byamanda serrano talking about
like 500 punches.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Bro landed I mean I'm thrown.
Uh, wait how much she had.
She had by like where the go?
I had it on here too, aboutlike 500.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
500 landed.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
No, no, it was like 500 thrown or something Like.
It's like the percentage isfucking it up.
Yeah, yeah, they're saying thatshe only landed like 18%.
Whatever dude Like a factor Yoshe's throwing like she's
throwing, like the most in awoman.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Like nobody no woman's throwing more than her
like and like like punch saidshe was busting her shit up last
fight and I'm not gonna say shedid it on purpose, but it was
rather convenient that thatheadbutt caused the cut when it
did, yeah, and like repeatedlydid it after that like I don't
know yeah, and like now, that'sone thing the second fight
showed was that, oh wow, becauseI didn't really notice it as
much in the first fight but ohwow, katie does kind of come in

(11:47):
like a little rhino, a littleIrish rhino with that At this
point, I think she'd do it onpurpose at this point.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Yeah, I ain't going to lie to you.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
But again, like I don't think, like you said
before Punch, she was out on herfeet and she was in almost both
fights.
I think at one point, At acertain point, she was out on
her feet and call me crazy, herface looks.
Katie Taylor's face looks likea little different now it has to
be from these fights Like herface looks actually like almost
permanently swollen.
I was looking at it and I'm nottrying to be like disrespectful

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, Listen, she's a great boxer,but getting punched in the face
by Amanda Serrano as a is notgood for your health.
It's not good for your health.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
She's kind of old too , isn't she?

Speaker 2 (12:26):
She's old and she's like fight old.
She's kind of like Canelo inthe sense of she's been in a lot
of fights, but I'm saying likeshe's closer to 40 than 30, is
she not?
Oh, let me Google it real quick.
I'm not sure I think she looksit.
Oh, oh, yeah, she's 39, bro, mybad 39, katie taylor's 39, yeah
, and amanda's 36 she don't look.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
She don't look that old.
They both don't look that old.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
That's crazy and that's crazy that they both
throw that much at like 39 yearsold yeah, so that's um last
last fight.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Uh, katie was 405 and then serena was 579.
What punch punches thrown?
Yeah, punch a stone, total,it's wild.
And it says she, on amanda,only landed three more though.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
That's crazy so amanda brought in jose guzman,
who's from new york.
Um, oh no, I'm sorry, not joseguzman.
The fuck am I saying?
Uh, I'm an idiot.
Um, whatever she brought, shebrought in a trainer from new
york I forget his name real likejose guzman's, like a hall of
famer.
But um to, to make her lighteron her feet and the shoes is not

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.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
So.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
I say this, I say this every, I say this every
surround I say this everyserrano feet she's training in
boxing shoes, so she trains inboxing shoes and she she fights
in clunky jordans.
I don't understand it.
I get it looks cool.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
It does look great, uh I don't know why she doesn't
do what other fighters do, andjust go to the jordan, go to
shoe surgeons.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yeah, exactly, go to shoe surgeon.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
Go to ttsdk, go to aztec customs, be like hey.
Make this motherfucking shoelook like a jordan six bro and
it doesn't even have to be them.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
There's always little mom and pop shoe people.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, that's like.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
TSDK and Aztec are.
I mean, is she sponsored byJordan?
No, no, no.
And she still didn't.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
She might be now.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, I hope so.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Jordan does sponsor certain fighters.
Jordan does sponsor certainfighters.
They just don't release shoes.
That's the weird thing.
They'll put their logo onsomeone else's shoe.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
It's crazy they need to bring back those Jordans, the
ones that fucking Roy hadthey're clunky too they're
fucking heavy as hell.
I never wore them.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Fossil, actually my old co-host when we used to box.
He used to wear those all thetime.
They look cool as hell.
I never wore them.
Fossil, actually my old co-hostwhen we used to box.
He used to wear those all thetime.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
They look cool as hell.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
They're thick though they're thick, but Andre Ward
had the cool ones.
Andre Ward had cool ones, butyou know it was Jose Guzman.
He's from New York.
He's a trainer I'm fucking upnames, I'm so bad with names.
He's at all the fights hebrought her in to camp to.
I guess he was saying to gether lighter on her feet.
But again, I think the fix forthat would be get rid of those

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shoes.
She's training in boxing shoes.
I just don't understand it.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
I mean, she don't have a problem.
She really don't have a problem.
She really don't have a problem.
It's the judges, really.
Because she's working, she'scutting off the ring.
It's nothing that she's notdoing.
Amanda lands the cleaner, moreimpactful shots for sure, yeah,
when you're watching it and thenyou see it.
I don't understand.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
I don't know what the judges, katie's punches and
bunches, though I thinkespecially maybe sitting
ringside is what's causing thejudges to, because she's
throwing a lot of punches.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, she probably is throwing more like.
So when maybe Katie throwinglike two, she's throwing like
four or five, I think.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
If it was the biggest gripe I have, though, with this
is the two minute rounds.
They should make championshipfights.
It could be a 10 round fight.
Just make women's championshipfights three-minute rounds.
I don't understand why.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
That's why Amanda won it.
She's like yo, you promised methat you reneged on that.
Like you, soft yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
If either one of those fights had three-minute
rounds, she wins by stoppage.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Oh yeah, 100%, 100%.
I'm going stoppage this fighttoo.
I keep betting it.
I'm not going to stop justbecause I'm a Manda Serrano fan.
And again to get hit by thoseshots.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
I think she's still the favorite too.
That's the crazy part.
Yeah, still getting robbed.
It's nuts, I don't get it.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
In my opinion, if this third fight has a clear
winner, I think that cementsthem as the second greatest
woman boxer of all time.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
The second greatest woman boxer of all time for real
.
Yeah, that's a good point.
I could see that too.
It's definitely, for me anyway,the greatest woman's boxing
trilogy of all time.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, because I don't even know her.
That's the only one I can name.
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
So boom, there you have it, and props to them.
I mean, it is again.
The buzz around non-boxing fansis there.
There's a lot that goes intowhy.
That is, like you said, theNetflix promotions, jake Paul,
but when the product delivers,too, that helps yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
I actually like there's only like two women I
actually like thoroughly enjoywatching.
Like everybody knows, I loveSandy Ryan, but like when it
comes to watching her box, likeI could take it or leave it.
But I love watching clarissaand I love watching amanda, but
I, I, I love, I like amanda themost when it comes to like
actual, like boxing, I love andthat's not a slight on clarissa,

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it's just because clarissa isso much better than everyone she
fights.
It's like I kind of know what'sgonna happen.
But uh, amanda, like I just Iactually love watching her fight
.
Her footwork, her head movement, she's got that old school come
forward.
She's like if marvin hagglerwas a chick, just without.
Yeah, honestly, she fights likehaggler, just orthodox yep, and

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she puts the pressure on.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
She's always coming forward and it's funny too
because she in the ring.
You're like damn, she's a meanmofo.
But then you talk to her andshe's like she's nice, sweet,
very caring, emotional, like youknow, female.
It's good to see that wecanceled.
It's good to see the undercardtoo.
Alicia Baumgartner is on theundercard.

(18:19):
She should win that fight.
There's nothing really thatpops out at me on the undercard
Too.
That fight there's nothingreally that pops out at me on
the undercard Too.
Crazy.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Savannah Marshall's fighting again too, A lot of big
, big woman names on theundercard.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Is Chantel on this card?
Yeah, chantel Cameron is on thecard, yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
See, that fucking pisses me off.
Chantel Cameron got a decisionover Katie, but Amanda couldn't.
Are you fucking?

Speaker 2 (18:39):
kidding me?
Yeah, it's weird, it is weird,didn't me?
Yeah, it's weird, it is weird,but it wasn't so much, didn't
amanda move up for that thoughshe was like she moved up in
weight.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
Are you saying amanda ?

Speaker 2 (18:51):
moved up.
I mean I'm sorry, uh, katie,didn't katie move up in that
fight?

Speaker 3 (18:53):
yeah, but didn't amanda move up to fight katie
too, though like yeah, all threetimes yeah, yeah, but she
definitely moved up.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Whatever I mean again I I don't think katie taylor
could withstand the thepunishment that many times in a
row.
It's nothing against her.
She's a very great slick boxer.
She is 39 years old, thepunches keep coming and again
it's a tough task.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
You think Clarissa is going to pull up to that
woman's?

Speaker 2 (19:19):
fight.
I heard, though.
I heard she—.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Because she got like two different fighters that she
fought on that card.
They're not giving her a ticket.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
They're making her pay for her ticket or something.
Yeah, there's like drama withJake Paul and them and her.
But again tomorrow, damn, wemight yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah, that's funny, you hear that.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
I read it, she posted something about it.
But all right, that's funny ashell.
You hear that, I read it, sheposted something about it.
But alright, let's keep itmoving.
We're going to try and keepthis show under an hour.
We have a lot to talk about.
I'm excited for that Fridaynight fight.
Unfortunately I have work soI'll have to stream it from work
or something.
But I would go that's the thingtoo, though If it was dudes on
it, the card too.
Though If it was dudes on it,the card I'd go, I'd take off

(20:05):
and go.
But I'm not going to, I don'tknow, I'll just fuck it Going
forward.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Go ahead and parlay and go.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Saturday, saturday what?
We started the show with One ofthe best cards on paper so far
of the year.
I'd say, right, can we allagree on that?
Yes, oh, yeah, yeah, from topto bottom.
There's only like two fights inthe beginning that I didn't
really.
I don't know who the hell theyare.
It's like a debut or something,but then we have.
I guess we could start withDavid Morel versus Imam Kataev.

(20:35):
I don't know if I'm saying thatright, but I really got to give
David Morel a lot of credithere.
He's coming off a Benavidezfight, right, yeah, the biggest
fight of his life where he diddecent.
I mean, he got his ass kicked.
But for who his opponent was,he did what he could.
He did decent.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Why are my cousins talking about?
David won that fight.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Nah, nah, nah.
I said what Nah, nah, nah, yourcousin's high, he was bugged
out.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
He'd always smoke.
I'm like yeah, bugged out.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Nah, he didn't win that fight, but it's his first
fight back and he's taken on aguy close to him in the Ring
Magazine rankings.
I think they're like two off ofone another.
Oh yeah, and it's a tough, toughRussian dude who trains in
Australia.
The dude was as he was comingup, they were saying he could be

(21:26):
the next Biterbiev.
That's a stretch, but I didn'tknow much about him.
I did some research.
I looked at some of his fighthighlights and stuff.
Yeah, dude, he can fuckingthrow.
He has power in both hands.
He goes to the body really,really well.
That's kind of how you're goingto slow Morel down.
I'm not saying he's going tobeat Morel, but Morel just

(21:48):
taking this fight in a comebackfight on a big stage like this
after suffering a loss to me.
Kudos to him.
I'm here for it.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Anyone else.
I don't know too much aboutthis fight.
I don't know who was about togo down.
To be honest, I don't know toomuch about this fight.
It was about to go down.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
To be honest, I don't know.
I always thought the Benavidezfight was too early for Morel.
I thought he was more hype thanhe was, or what was it they
used to say, like more sizzlethan steak.
You know what?
I'm saying that's not a shot onhis skills at all.
Like, I think he's verytalented but I think he needs to
.
He needs to gain experience tomake that talent better, like

(22:30):
his uh his fight beforeBenavidez, the one on that, uh,
that big LA car that Turkey didwith Crawford and Madrimal I
can't remember the name of theguy he fought- the guy he fought
like.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
He literally looks like the dude you fight in
prison on fight night champion.
I forget his nickname.
One of our friends, flats, knewhim.
I forget his fucking nickname.
He was like that guy was no, hewas known in like boxing
florida circuits.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
The guy he fought, but it was still a very
underwhelming performance.
Yeah, we were told.
Morel, was you understand whatI'm saying?
Yeah, it wasn't a badperformance, but it was
underwhelming compared to thehype around him.
And then he fights Benavidez.
He got tired quick because hemoved too much and didn't throw
enough.
He just kind of stood there.
He dropped Benavidez, but healso hurt him late in the fight.

(23:15):
But still, it's like I don'tknow.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
You've seen it before with other fighters, he dropped
Benavidez.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yeah, you don't remember that.
I don't think it counted right,no it counted, but then they
deducted Morel a point.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Oh shit, you're right , you're right, you're right,
you're right, yeah, but he did.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
But the more impressive punch because it was
kind of like Benavidez wasrolling with it anyway and he
was kind of like off balance,kind of like uh, when Bochuk
knocked down Virgil he wasmoving, he was like it was a
good shot, but it wasn't like areal knockdown.
The better one was whenBenavidez rushed him in the
corner and and Morel rocked himand like buckled his knees.
But my point is sometimes likeyou take these tough losses too

(24:00):
soon and then you take anothertough fight coming back and it
could just be too much too soon.
So it's like but at 175, hedoesn't have any knockouts, he
only has two fights.
One was the underwhelmingperformance I was talking about
and the other was the Benavidezfight.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
That guy's name was a hot rod.
Hot rod was his nickname.
Oh yeah, yeah, but his lastname was like Rod Monavich or
some shit, right yeah.
Yeah, yeah, his first name isRod.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
I don't even know how to say, but yeah, fucking try,
dude, whatever I can get out ofukraine either way, I'm saying
what I'm saying is like we don't, we really don't know what
morel is.
At 175 he has an underwhelmingperformance where he didn't
score a knockdown or stop theguy and then the benavidez fight
.
So I don't know like he.

(24:52):
He really I don't know.
I hope he wins.
Really I don't know.
I hope he wins.
I like Morel and I like Cubanboxers.
People know I love Cuban boxersso I want him to win.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
But it's like the dude he's fighting Imam Katev or
whatever is a pressure cookerdude.
He just comes forward and hethrows combos and every combo he
throws has a punch to the body.
So that's, to me, his key tovictory here.
But again, combos, and everycombo he throws has a punch to

(25:23):
the body.
So that's it, to me, his key tovictory here.
But again.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
David morel can dance , he can move.
I know you're tired when hedoes it.
Yeah I, I just don't gasagainst he doesn't move too much
.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
I mean benavidez, always like a different kind of
pressure and benavidez has speed.
Where what?
Katev or imam, I don't reallyknow katev, I'm just gonna say
where he, where he lacks is thatspeed he's.
He doesn't have a lot of speedon his hands from what I saw, so
probably heavy-handed thoughyeah, very heavy-handed power in
both hands.
I I don't recall from what Iwhat I looked at.

(25:50):
I could be wrong.
He does get hit.
He's very like.
He's one of those like he.
He kind of just closes up Highguard, yeah like high guard and
throws like that conventionalRussian style.
Yeah, and another thing againsthim, and I don't mean this in a
bad way he trains in Australia,so the sparring and stuff in
Australia is not the same as Atleast at that weight, sure no.

(26:13):
Yeah, the higher the weight yougo, the harder it is in.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Australia.
That's the advantage forDurrell.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yeah, so Murrell, he's definitely going to be a
high favorite too.
But I mean, you know what,Based off what you're saying,
Punch, and what I saw, I mean,if you have some extra money in
your little gambling box overthere it wouldn't hurt to throw
some money on Ketev.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
That's why I was just about to say that I was going
to ask you if he's a live dog.
Yeah, he's definitely a livedog.
I'm just saying, because of thethings I brought up, I still
think Moreau wins and I stillthink if he's, if he learned
from that Benavidez fight and.
I think he could knock this guyout, because he does have power
and he does have good angles.

(26:53):
I just I want to see evolutionto his game because, he's young,
you know, like we need.
we need to be seeing evolution,that Benavidez fight Like he
wasn't a finished product yetyou know.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
but but this is what I mean.
Like this fight, this guy is,like you said, as a live dog.
I don't think he's got to justwin.
The evolution versus this guyis going to be tough, so it's
not a tune-up.
To me, this is not a tune-up,this is like a contender battle.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
And you know what, props to Turkey too, because as
a Cuban boxing fan, I wouldalways complain like Cuban
boxers, they never get bigfights until they're too old.
And if they get them, they getrobbed, like Lara versus Canelo
or Williams.
I'm glad they're starting toget bigger fights when they're
younger, so I'm happy for thedude For real.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
And it's just a great fucking card dude, because the
next topic and the next fightit's.
Alberto Playo versus SubrioMatias for WBC Junior Welter 140
matchupup and this fight onpaper and it's crazy to me too
it's it's two kind of differentstyles.

(28:03):
Uh, playo is a massive 140pounder.
He's, he's just big, he's a bigass dude.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
But no, yeah, no, and he doesn't, he, he, he doesn't
throw combos like he throws twopunch combos and he boxes, he
like which is weird for adominican, because dominicans
are usually come forward he, heboxes and if you look in in his
last fight, uh verse, what's hisface?

Speaker 2 (28:28):
the guy that martin yeah, martin, martin was fucking
was kind of looked like areally weak version of Matias,
because the way he would go tothe body, martin was having
success.
To the body, just, martin hasno power, so Pueyo would just
button up and throw one-twos orlike a looping hook while Martin
was at the body and would crackhim.

(28:49):
I feel like if Matias does that, it's going to be a whole
different story for Pueyo.
But then again, this is whythis fight's so good.
Matias is a kind of I don'twant to say suspect chin, but
he's been clipped and hurtbefore and and this is
interesting to me- yeah, hedoesn't have the best defense,
but he, he hits hard, he hits alot but a lot of people thought

(29:10):
poyo lost that last fight I did.
I was one of them.
Remember you remember thatfight we watched at Diamante's?
Yeah, yeah, I thought he didtoo.
That was a tough fight.
Yeah, if Pueyo is the weakestbelt holder at 140, he's
definitely out of all thechampions, which is crazy to say
, because he beat another beltholder at 140.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Yeah, Two bites ago, matias had really been looking
weak too.
I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
They should rematch.
You're talking about what's hisface?
Russell, they all have eightnames together.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Russell, antoine Antonio.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
You wanna know what's crazy.
You know who he was supposed todefend his title against, like
two years ago.
Russell, no, fucking Puello.
Who?
Who?
Because he, like this, is hissecond time being a champion, he
won a vacant title againstBatyar Akhmedov oh yeah, that's
a tough guy too, though Exactlyit's a good win.

(30:14):
Ahmedov that's a tough guy too,though Exactly it's a good win.
But then he got stripped of histitle like a month before his
fight, because of some PED shit.
He was supposed to defend hisbelt against Rowley, and then
that's when Rowley got thatsketch knockout against old-ass
Barroso.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, I remember all
that.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
For real that sketch knockout.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
That was the fakest knockout ever yeah, right, but
I'm but like it's crazy thatpollo like roly was gonna.
If roly fought pollo you'd havegot yeah, I think roly's head
would yeah, like, but I don'tknow.
Pollo has a good resume, he hebeat Akhmedov.
He beat Russell, he beatquote-unquote beat Martin but.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
I will say, like Martin I didn't know this In the
Tio fight he broke his nose inthe first round and, like, still
went the distance and didfairly well.
A lot of people say Martin beatTio, so he is tough, though
Like Martin isn't like a nobodyto not knock him out and stuff.
So poyo might do something tomatias, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
I don't think so.
I don't think he's gonna.
I don't think he's gonna hurthim.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
He's gonna box the shit out of him I don't think,
yeah, but matias got outboxed byparo yeah exactly that's what
I'm saying this card is.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
This card is literally.
I don't know what matias isgonna do if he can't, if he
can't touch him, if he don'tcatch him, if he don't stand
still, if he keep on moving.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
He's going to touch him.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
I'm saying if he's going to move around, if he move
around, keep on moving, he'd beall right.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Matias, if Pueyo does that shit where he goes in the
corner and buttons up and triesto land a huge hook, he can't do
that here.
Matias is going to fuckingignite him.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
He can't do that here .

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Because Matias is kind of like Benavidez with that
, With the speed and power andthat style of those six-punch
combinations.
His footwork is dog shit though.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
Yeah, he just walks in.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
He walks in like a square box.
He just walks up to you,squared as hell.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
He fought that Kazik dude on the Boo Boo Benavidez
card.
He was getting lit up for thefirst two rounds.
That guy gassed out after tworounds.
But then that guy, that guygassed out after like two rounds
matthias or the other guy,that's my ergoshev uh, oh yeah,
ergoshev yeah, matthias does nothave a good resume no he really

(32:30):
doesn't he like?
Everybody gave him.
They're like, oh, he fuckingkilled that guy RIP and then
knocked all these people out.
But it's like, who is heknocking out?

Speaker 2 (32:39):
though that's the thing he made.
So many people quit in a row,though I think he killed more
than one Well he has good volume.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
I don't think Pueyo knocks him out.
But I agree with Willie Idefinitely think Pueyo could
outbox the shit out of him.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
He's out.
He's definitely going to outboxhim.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
I just think, from what I saw, from the, what's it
called?
Not Matias, why can't I say hisfucking name?
The dude that he fought lastPueyo fought last Martin.
From what I saw, like the wayMartin fought in that fight and
like the, the way he was landingto the body and having success

(33:19):
just no zip on it.
I feel like that's, if matiasdoes that and fights like that,
it's all wrong for poyo yeah,but matias can't box like marty
martin's not legitimately goodboxer.
Yeah, he's like a like a.
Um statistically good boxerlike he's got a.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
He's got better ring IQ, he's got better movement and
is Matias in the Southpaw, ishe?
Yeah, he is.
Oh, okay, because Martinez tooright.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Uh-huh.
So I just think Matias is he'sjust too one-dimensional right
now.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
He hasn't been looking good.
I don't think he can.
I don't know if he's just tooone-dimensional right now.
He hasn't been looking good.
I don't think he can.
I don't know if he's going tobe able to catch him.
Fun to watch but, yeah he'sgreat to watch, but he's not
fighting nobody.
He's not going to.
A boxer is going to outbox him.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
And he doesn't have that wilder one-punch knockout.
No, he's combinations.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
And if you're not sitting there, if you're not
going to sit there for it, thenyou're not going to.
You can beat him If you're notgoing to sit there.
If you sit there, you're goingto get hit with something.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
That's why I was surprised Paro beat him, because
I thought Paro was tailor-madefor him.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Subriel is not a southpaw.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
I fucked up confused because, like we said, he just
walks.
I don't know what he is fuckingparo.
Paro was boxing, though thatday he was boxing.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
He was moving, he was .
That's what I'm saying.
Like if paro could outbox him,well, definitely can't.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Hit and move.
Hit and move he was.
We shall see.
We shall see.
Uh, I don't think he's gonnaget no knockout.
He that.
I think he's gonna need aknockout to win.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
I could have sworn matthias was a southpaw bro, and
that that goes off to like whenhe yeah same, he doesn't have,
he doesn't have a stance, hejust walks that's what I said.
He come in there like a squarehe's kind of like a switch
hitter, because he just walks in, he's, he's like a.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
He's like um benavidez.
Yeah, he's like, just likedavid.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
David walks up straight too, yep he's fun to
watch, though I just he's greatto watch, he's been knocked down
.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
He has lost it.
This is another great fight.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
That's a great fight.
I say it's a 60-40 fight FabianPuello.
I think I'm taking the distanceI'm going with Matias Stoppage.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
I've never seen him live.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
I think it's two distance fights to me right now.
The guys that he did stopthough.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
How big is the ring?

Speaker 2 (35:36):
I'm sorry, how big is the ring?
Oh yeah, Well, I don't know.
I thought I did.
I don't know I can.
I need somebody.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
And it's outside right.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
You said yeah, and maybe you could help.
It's a retractable roof, butmaybe you could help.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
It's crazy there.
I ain't gonna lie thisatmosphere, I gotta crazy there
I go a lot of this atmospherewell, I'm, I gotta, I gotta, hit
a bet.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
I gotta go get those ray-ban glasses.
I'm going.
Oh, the video ones, yeah, I, Ihave to.
Uh, there needs to be somethingwhere you could find the the
size of the ring, because that'sbeen as a gambling man I could
never find the size of the ringuntil you show up yeah, I, I
that's just huge because thesmaller the ring, the better it
is for matthias.
Yeah, way better, I'm guessingit's huge because the smaller
the ring, the better it is forMatthias, yeah, Way better.
I'm guessing it's a small ringbecause that's what you know.

(36:18):
Turkey wanted Shakur for firstin.
But now, with this, what we'regoing to talk about right now,
this retractable ring, shit, Idon't.
I don't know what's going on.
I hope he's just saying thatlet's just get right into it.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
There's no way that's real you real you can't fight
with something like that.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
And I will say Turk's been getting better, can we
just get into that?

Speaker 3 (36:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's just get into it Shakur.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Stevenson vs William Zepeda, WBC World Light title at
135 pounds.
You know this is make or breakfor Shakur.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
In a sense the pressure's on him I hate to say
this is punch man's right here,yeah, yeah, I hate to say this
is Punch Man's right here, yeahyeah, and listen, I'm.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
I'm not even sexual, I don't even care.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Yeah, and this is like this fight is.
Props to him for taking thisfight too.
This is still a tough fight,but there's a lot like Shakur I
know he doesn't care.
I feel like there's a lot ofpressure on him because, say, he
does win right and he wins inthe way he always wins, he's
still going to get a lot of hate.
What, oh you cut?

Speaker 3 (37:17):
out sorry.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
I said if he wins the way he always wins, right,
which is scoring points, and hehas had issues, you know he
broke his hand or whatever.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
He hurt his shoulder and he broke his hand against De
Los Santos, sorry.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
No, you're good, yeah , yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
He's about to go in.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Shakur sexual.
This is like payback, becausewhen I talk about TO, I'm always
like I got all the stats andeverything in my head off the
rip, but nah.
So this fight though if hebeats William Zepeda, you can't
really say anything anymore,even if he does beat him in his
own style is what I was going toget to.
I was going to get to, I wasgoing to change it.
He still beat William Zepeda,who throws 100 punches around.

(37:57):
You know what.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
The Tank and Devin fans are already shitting on it
saying oh who is Zepeda?
Beat Zepeda's a nobody, they'realready doing it.
They already started it oncethe fight got fucking announced.
They're supposed to fight FrankMartin can announce and you're
looking at one thing you'resupposed to fight frank martin
he got he got signed to fightfrank martin in november of 2023

(38:20):
and they're like, oh, he's afucking prospect, he ain't beat
nobody.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
And then take the option out and they're like,
damn yeah were you about to saythat really no, I ain't gotta
say nothing, man I just I'mupset.
My guy is now in the best termsright now.
I can't talk.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Who's?

Speaker 1 (38:39):
your guy.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Tank.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
He's not on the best terms right now.
He got something to prove, yeahyeah.
I can't even talk to him afterthis fight.
I can't talk about him.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
But so Zepeda, though , has been more active lately,
so that's in Zepeda, though hasbeen more active lately, so
that's in Zepeda's favor.
The only thing I hate now, likeI was all about this fight,
like this is going to be a coolstylistic matchup, two of the
total opposite styles.
A ring general, literally,William Zepeda, a brute puncher

(39:09):
the only way Shakur loses thisfight to me and it really,
really, really, really, reallyhas a good, good chance of
happening as if he breaks hishand on that hard mexican head
or that is go ahead, go aheadand like, and, and now I think
this is what you're about to sayor the this shrinking ring
thing, or whatever the fuck isgoing on is is like a gimmick or

(39:32):
some carnival shit.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
So you're saying Turk wanted the ring to be small for
Shakur?
Fight His man, shakur Lately.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Turk's been posting stuff about this Tom and Jerry
and this weird things, and thenhow he wanted the ring small and
I guess it wasn't the smallestring.
And then now he said there'sgoing to be a shrinking ring.
But let me just say one thingreal quick Before Turk said said
I didn't know what time thisfight was until we got the
tickets.
Because I was like I thoughtthis fight was going to be
during the day because Turk wassaying that.

(40:02):
But he turns out he was justcoming at Oscar de la Hoya.
He was like oh, I'm going toeat breakfast and go to the
fight with a full belly ofpancakes or something like that.
What time is it?
Uh, it's like gates open at5.30 pm Eastern time.
So he is playing the media alittle bit now, which is kind of
cool to see.
He's becoming like a regularpromoter.
I guess Good, but I hope Idon't know what to believe.

(40:24):
I hope this shrinking ring shitis fake because, yeah, I don't
how do you sign a contract forthat?

Speaker 3 (40:30):
How does a sanctioning body approve that?

Speaker 2 (40:33):
And that's where I was going to go.
If it does.
If that is true, then the belts.
It's not for belts.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Can somebody explain it to me?

Speaker 3 (40:41):
Like what is a shirt and a ring?
Yeah, I don't even understandthe mechanics of it.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
And I will say it's going to be like the basketball
court that Dave and Buster's inand move back and forth on you.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
I'm just saying, like , when are you going to do it
between rounds?
Where the fuck does his cornergo?
The only thing, the only thingI could I could see that that
could happen is maybe it's abigger ring for all the fights
before and after, and then theycome in real quick and and fix,
adjust the small ring.
Yeah, you can't.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
You can't shrink a ring round by round, like that
he's got a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
The ring is in the contract.
Yeah, yeah, it has to be.
He's just bluffing or something.
I hope, because I don't.
I wanted, I wanted just aregular as a boxing fan.
We're going.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
I just want a regular great card fight like bullshit
bro and like by the way, he hasto fight the seventh round
blindfolded, like what yeah,yeah, like, oh, and now we're
gonna have a mechanical bull.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
It's like celebrity death match, whoever has the
most punches gets a gun likewhat another thing is too like.
New York State AthleticCommission Is pretty strict.
They don't allow the bareknuckle fighting here, so I
can't see them approving that.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
They just approved UFC, like 9 years ago.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Yeah that's new.
That's pretty new.
New York City is pretty new.
Everything, bro.
People could have watched afight In New York City.
People could have watched itfrom the street when I was going
to go with it.
Though Puma watch the fight,like in new york city, people
could watch it for the streetwhere I was gonna go with it
though, puma sorry, I'm sorry,go ahead, go ahead, just talk
it's fine.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
Um, it wasn't the, it wasn't the ring shit.
It was like when sugar rayleonard fought duran the first
time, like yeah, he got coaxedinto like fighting toe-to-toe
rather than boxing.
But I think if Shakur goes outthere trying to prove he can
fight more than he can box, itcan cost him.
Yeah, it can cost him.

(42:42):
Because this dude is on recordfor saying he almost went down
from a body shot from.
Valdez, he wanted to throw up inhis corner.
Yeah, zepeda's a really goodbody puncher.
He knocked out Cabrera whenPitbull Cruz couldn't even knock
that dude out.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
He might as well just do the Ryan Garcia Philly shell
.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
API Prison shell bro.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Give Zepeda his old booty.
Let me ask you something.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Who do you think and I know you're obviously going to
be a little biased, but you'rea Shakur fan but who do you
think has more power?
And I don't mean this in aweird way, but Farmer or Shakur?

Speaker 3 (43:27):
I would say Zepeda, because I don't think Shakur has
concussive power, I thinkZepeda has power.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
I said Farmer.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
Farmer Tevin of power ?
I think no, no, I said, I saidfarmer, farmer tevin farmer, or
shakur shakur, shakur, yeah, oh,look at the numbers speak for
it all.
Farmer has less knockouts atlower weights, bro, come on,
yeah, I'm like, farmer is faster.
Farmer might be faster, but Idon't think he's as accurate.
I don't think he's as technical.
Power might be even, but perthe numbers I think he has less

(44:00):
power.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
I think Shakur's power comes from the counters.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Yeah, I think.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
The quick reflexes.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
That's where Farmer comes from.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
I think Farmer might be stronger than Shakur.
Shakur is just so much cleaner.
His punches are just so muchcleaner, like, and he doesn't
really do philly, philly, shellyhis whole body's into his
punches again, though.
Uh, the, the big, the big.
Well, now there's two, twoquestion marks for me.
With this fucking ring thingand shakur's hands, he's.
He's posted subliminal messages.
I remember you sent me thething with like he was looking

(44:31):
for a hand therapist not toolong ago or something like yeah,
a hand massage therapist, yeah,and.
And shakur, the.
We know in boxing as boxingfans, once your hands go, man,
it's really hard to keep thatmoney, like floyd did.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
He was getting massages every day in his hands.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
He said, yep, I don't know our cortisone shots though
they might't know, ourcortisone shots, though they
might not even be allowed,because now with how heavy
testing and stuff is, yeah, Imean people walk around with
fucking steel in their hands andshit Like, wow, dude, you might
as well be able to take some.
If this is a regular fight, alot of questions will be

(45:12):
answered.
It's a big if now, with thisnew Apple card, I hope it's just
a promotional stunt.
If it is a promotional stunt,good on turk he's a real
promoter now, just like boxingalways turns people into like
regular, like it's like a, acesspool, like you want to be
different, and then it justturns you into like a sheisty
promoter, like it's funny,because look at turk, he's like
now a she steep promoter.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Well, they bring it out of you like Oscar, somebody
like Oscar, he just don't giveno fucks.
They just start bringing it outof you, bro again, triller
tried doing.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
Triller was horrible.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Yeah, and didn't Triller like turn into yo to me
and I'm going to go off on atangent quick, and I'm going to
make it quick because again, howmuch it.
We've been on for 45 minutesalready.
Time flies when you're havingfun and we're going to try and
keep it just over an hour, ifanything.
So Triller, to me, is kind ofwhat ruined TO.
In a sense.
They fucked TO up because theywon the purse bid for fucking

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the Yeaho Cambosis.
Yeah, teo Cambosis, and thenCOVID happened, and then Teo
wasn't fighting.
It was just a whole smorgasbordof bullshit.
But that's a side note.
Yeah, shakur, let's give ourfinal picks of how we think this
fight ends if it's a normalfight, if they change the ring
or whatever, and a retractablebull comes in or whatever.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
I got Shakur winning like 118-110.
Either way, shakur winning118-110.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
What do you got, Willie?

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Going a distance, shakur by a point.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
I feel the same.
The only way to me and I'mharping on this the only way
Shakur loses this fight to me isif his hands break, which is
probably like a 50-50 shot.
I hope his hands stay, which isprobably like a 50-50 shot.
I hope his hands stay healthy,because Zepeda is a dog.
He's coming, he's going to muckit up.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
I'm just saying, if Farmer did his thing against
Zepeda, I know Shakur is justgoing to fucking.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Farmer did his thing, but Zepeda still was fucking
coming like a bull.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
Also here's.
I'm sorry dude, as much as Ilove Tevin Farmer, and we all
love Tevin Farmer, he isn't shitcompared to Zepeda.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
No, no, no no, not at all, but the hands come into
play here.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
The hands are a big thing here for me.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
I get what you're saying, but that's also a
hypothetical right, like allthings considered.
Like shakur, stevenson, in myopinion, is one of at worst, the
top five worst boxers, justboxers on the planet best you
mean yeah, sorry at worst, heprobably already hates me

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because I'm white shakur has.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
He has matured.
I I watched some interviews ofhim recently.
He's matured I I give fightersa bad rap as they're coming up
and I see what they.
You know some are a little toomature.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
You know what I like about Chico, though what you
would say something.
Now I guess you would saysomething about him.
He'd still do an interview withyou.
And then he would oppress youright there I saw that he did
the interview with dude, yourfavorite guy.
That guy is what's his?

Speaker 2 (48:37):
name Showbiz.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
Motherfuckers do not like showbiz.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Dude, and I'm not hating like I'm jealous, it's
the haircut, I think.
Nah, dude, he's a little zesty.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
He's a little funny, I think he's funny.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Oh, he's very fake.
He's a cornball.
If I don't know something, I'mgoing to admit it.
If Willie or you like, I'm like, oh my bad, I didn't know, like
I don't care, it's a fucking,and like he does this weird
coffee.
What is it?
Two creams, two sugars thing.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Yeah, I don't know what that means.
And yeah, yeah, Whoa shit, whatthe?

Speaker 2 (49:14):
fuck, I don't know, I can't hate.
The guy has a following.
He created a following.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
He created.
No, you got to respect that.
Well, he has good takes he hastakes on fights.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
I like him, but I think he's corny at the same
time.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Also Like he's just throwing shit at the wall and if
it sticks, that's the life ofbeing a content creator.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Yeah, shakur pressed him about that.
He was like yo you're sayingsomething About saying something
about me, and you're followingand starting to believe.
Whatever you're saying, you'reprobably not even saying the
right thing.
He's like yo.
You gotta stop.
Be mindful of what you'resaying.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Which is true.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
And I agree with Shakur, what he did at Coppinger
was funnier.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
Yeah, when he's like nah.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
You're the worst interviewer.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
Yeah, that was funny, but yo, I agree with Shakur and
what he's saying.
At the end of the day, he's ahuman, shakur's a human, but at
that stage and I got to back thecontent creators and us, the
people with opinion you'rebasically a sports team, you
know what I mean.
Yeah, like so you're a soleboxer, yes, but you're a sports

(50:22):
team in a sense, and like we'regonna criticize, we're gonna
talk shit, just like we're gonnago to the bar.
We're all gonna say shit, if,if, you, you know what I mean,
so I understand real quick, realquick, just a real quick
tangent.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
because you're a football fan, like I am, and
you're a New York Jets fan, I ama Jacksonville Jaguars fan.
So you know how it feels to bea fan of a shitty team.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
He's a Cowboy fan, this asshole.
I mean, my team's not reallyshitty.
We just did a good job.
What are you?

Speaker 2 (50:55):
talking about they lost the playoff game because
they put ezekiel elliott atcenter all right, wait, just say
what you're gonna say, becauseI'm trying to just keep it
rolling what I'm saying is likeokay, for example, I'm saying
like we don't lose as much asy'all two teams true, we do have
a more recent playoff winthough.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
Either way, I'm just saying I'm just saying, like
when you that play that MikeMcCarthy, did you remember when
you guys lost to the 49ers?
Because Dak.
Prescott ran a draw with notime left, weren't you like what
the?
Fuck are you doing bro?
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
You used to this, we used to this pain.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
But I see what you're saying in relation, but that's
what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
Like you're still a fan, but you can still be like,
what are you doing?
And we're going to stay.
I fought De Los Santos.
I was like bro, what this sucks?
This fucking sucks.
That doesn't mean I hate Shakur.
That doesn't mean I thinkShakur sucks, no, but that means
when Caleb Plant, who's one ofmy favorite fighters of all time
, just fought Resendez, I waslike bro, what the fuck are you

(51:57):
doing?
You're allowed to do that, butI think, because you're all
alone in the ring, the criticismyou get is way more intimate.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Yeah, they take it really, really to heart, which I
could understand.
But also they all want to besuperstars, right, and this is
going to go into our next takewants to be this superstar, rock
star, right?
That comes with this criticism,you know what I mean.
And actually, one day, talkingto tiafimo lopez, I said to him
I was like, oh, keep your headup, man, blah, blah, blah,
someone, something happened orwhatever.

(52:28):
And he wrote back he goes ah,it's all good, it comes with
being the superstar.
I was like, all right, and youknow what, I gotta give my guy
Tio credit in a sense.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
No, that's very good self-awareness.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
Yeah, he gets a lot of hate for actions that he
caused himself, but he rollswith it.
He fucking rolls with that shit, and he doesn't change.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
That's what times we in, though.
You have to go with whatevergoes down.
You have to just roll with it.
If they paint a picture, bethat person like angel reese.
They want to pay the bad girl.
She's a bad girl.
She's a bad guy.
She just keep on going with it.
Okay, just keep on going withit it works.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
You know what I'm saying I hate the fans because
there's the fan.
There was the shaker fansdefending that that de la santos
fight.
Like that was perfect boxing.
It's hit or not be hit sameguys that did it to devin after
his recent fight.
It's like there's no way youenjoyed that fight, like you
can't tell me.
It's like oh, it's just becauseyou don't know boxing.
I know boxing.
I've watched it since I wasfour years old.

(53:26):
I turned 33 in three weeks sothat's another.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
That's another thing I was going to say too a lot of
times, as, like a podcast andwhatever content, whatever the
fuck it's called contentcreators, whatever this is, this
is just three boxing fanstalking in a bar scene about
boxing, drinking being stupid.
But people get like, oh, youdon't know shit about boxing.
I got into it with some guy onthe internet, some random,
remember that guy?
And he's like oh yeah, I'veseen you shadow box.

(53:52):
You don't know shit aboutboxing.
And I'm like, bro, when youwatch something enough, right,
not that we're experts, but wewatch something so much and we
study it and we do research Isit back, I have a beer, I look
at stuff, I look at what's goingon, I look at punch counts Like
you look at not that we'reexperts, but we know a little
something.
You know what I mean?
Like we know.
It's just yeah, I hate that.

(54:14):
Like you don't have to be afighter to know everything.
Yes, fighters know the ins andouts and I ultimate respect them
.
That's why we get so excitedwhen we interview them.
It's like we get a wholedifferent.
They're the experts.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
But we don't know nothing but people.
This is why I like this podcast, because even when we on there,
we are fans first, so we haveopinions like fans if they.
If you go watch a pro boxerdoing a podcast, they're gonna
have like critiques and they'regonna have, they're gonna like,
they're gonna be, they're gonnamodern day self.

(54:49):
They're not just gonna sitthere like and give you the real
fan opinions this is realfandom.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
That's it.
That's all I wanted to say.
Again, shakur is maturing.
He did say that to whateverthat guy I forget his name all
the time Coppinger no, notCoppinger.
Showbiz Props to Showbiz.
I'm hating, in a sense of justhis.
I don't agree with a lot of thestuff he says no, you're not

(55:21):
hating on his success, you'rehating no, no, no, do, yeah, do
whatever you can to get, getyour success.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
He just doesn't do it for me.
I mean you gotta fuck with him.
You don't have to wish failureon him, but I just think he's
and I I and people think I'mcorny.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
I think he's very corny, that's all that's not.
It wasn't zesty.
I think he's very corny, that'sall, that's the word.
It wasn't zesty, I think he'svery corny, but whatever, he's
tough too.
Yeah, and you know what I got?
To give him props, because alot of podcasts and content
creator people they make itbecause they have a pro or they
have like a connect Like hedidn't.
He did it by himself, so propsto him for that.
But enough about him.

(55:51):
On to the next, though.
Also, one of the problems Ihave with this next fight we're
going to talk about is somepeople think they're a little
bigger than they are, and I ambacking them.
It's going to be Edgar Berlengaversus Hamza Shiraz, the
co-main event.
Which fight is first?

Speaker 3 (56:09):
The.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Shakur fight.
The Shakur fight's first.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Yeah, they're making a big deal.
Shakur is crying.
I should have been the mainevent.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
Yeah, just fight, yeah that's that bothered me
about shakur.
I get where he's coming fromand I agree, but I also think
don't make a big deal about it,you're still making another do
pay-per-view and, and he doeskind of have a little bit of
like this isn't edgar versushamza, isn't for a belt, right?

Speaker 2 (56:35):
He is the bigger name .
There's no belts, right he isthe bigger name man.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
No, it's Eliminator, that's crazy.
So how?
That don't make no sense.
That don't make no sense.
We talking about Eliminatorfight, and then we had the
championship fight before that.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Yeah Well, there's two championship fights before
it before Two, shiraz is Turk'sguy.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
But yeah, that is corny.
Stop pushing that guy on us.
Turk, we don't want to see him.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
He's trying to make him a star, so that way, when
Canelo vacates his titles, whenhe retires, because Canelo,
let's be honest, how many fightsdoes Canelo have left?
I bet it's less than five.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
I honestly bet it's less than five.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
I'd say less than three.
I'd say less than three.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
I'd say he's going to fight Crawford, probably two
times, three times, yeah, andthen there'll be.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
He's going to fight Crawford, for sure and then
there's going to be like one ortwo dudes that we never heard of
.
He's going to collect as muchmoney as he can and get the fuck
out of it.
He might fight.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
Bud two or three times, though?
I don't think so.
It's going to be the biggestfight.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
It depends, if he knocks Bud out in round five, he
doesn't fight him again.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
It all depends how that fight goes I don't see Bud
being like Charlo.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
I don't think Bud's going to stay at that weight
either.
I think Bud's done too soon.
He's fighting.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
Canelo for the bag.
He's old and he's almost 40.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
Yeah, he's old and he's not.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
That's exactly my point.
Turkey is making his boy a starin the wedding that way, when
these belts become available andthese guys aren't there, his
dude's at the top.
That's really what he wants tohope happens.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
But guess what, this is not the right fight for that.
This might go terribly wrongfor you, my boy.

Speaker 3 (58:26):
Your whole plan might not go as planned it could be
right, though, Because Berlangatechnically Bro he's not
deficient and he doesn't.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
Berlanga does not do well versus slicker boxers.
Like he doesn't.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
But if you really watch Berlanga he's kind of
slick himself and he got powersthough Kind of Kind of.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
But, dude, he got outboxed by Steve, fucking Rose
bro.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
Bad, and this fight too is like two inflated dudes,
like two guys that are a littleoverrated and I don't mean that
in a disrespectful way.
I'm backing my guy Edgar it's aNew York guy versus Hamza
Shiraz, an English fuck sort ofand whatever, but I can see
Edgar just taking the loss forthe money.
So I was going to, you just tookthe words out of my mouth.

(59:17):
I'm like he's saying King ofNew York, shit, and he's repping
New York and like that gets mein, you got me in.
I like the Terror squad yeah.
I like the state battles right,but don't fuck it up, bro.
Like you got a lot of pressureLike don't let new york down.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Like yeah, don't let new york down he better not do
what he did with canelo, but hebetter not I do want to say
canelo, though yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
So he's not gonna be intimidated, he's not gonna be
intimidated I will say too, likethat, not, edgar had a little
bit of a point when he gotknocked down by canelo.
It wasn't, he wasn't hurt.
You know, he, edgar, reallywasn't hurt by canelo, like at
all.
He got knocked down and rightaway he was like motherfucker,
this guy got me.
He got up and kept dogging.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
I'm trying to tell you that I ain't gonna lie.
I rewatched that fight with himand Canelo.
I'm like I see what he canreally do.
He can do it more.
He can do a lot more.
His one-two was nice.
I'm like okay he, he could do alot more.
He was.
His one two was nice.
I'm like okay he was.
He was rolling.
I'm like yo, he's pretty, he'spretty slick.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
He's got to go to the body on Shiraz though he's got
to.
He's got to really, really hurtthe body.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
And does he go to the ?

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
body ever Not, not that.
When go Hamza's taller, thoughright, he definitely appears to
be taller.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
Well, he's taller than Adamas, I don't know.
Is he taller?

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
than Edgar.
Let me see right now.
I'm assuming because he looksso tall.
I don't think he's like linkierthough 6'3", hamza's 6'3", I
think Edgar's like 6'.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Edgar was type 12.
When we seen him in person, Iain't gonna lie, he was like a
good six.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
Six one, six one.
I don't call you out, go ahead.
But you gave Morrell props forfighting Benavidez and then
fighting fucking I don't know,some random gulag prison guard
motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
Shiraz just fought a.
His first fight at 168 isBerlanga.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Call me out all you want, because I wrote that down.
I said I got to give Shirazprops too.
He's fighting Berlanga, andBerlanga can't say the same,
because he fought me.
Yeah, he fought the dude whofixed my fucking tires last week
he fought the dude I see at7-Eleven asking me for a dollar.
No joke.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
I think that guy just got out of prison.
He did, I'm not even joking,that guy had just gotten out of
prison.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
Oh, that might be the dude from the bar.
Yeah, yeah, fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
So props to that dude , actually, because that dude is
the real one Dude that'sanother reality show Scared
straight and then fight Berlanga.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
Yeah, you have to do 30 days in prison and then fight
Edgar Berlanga, but dude withShiraz isn't really?

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
yes, he did very, he went the distance with Adams.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
He lost to Adams, he lost that fight, he lost.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
I think he lost too.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
I think he lost too I think he lost too.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
I will say though I will say, though, like Berlanga
to me, his key to victory herefor me is his fucking.
He does have power, so he needsto counter and hit him with a
shot cleanly.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
No how, how is this even happening?
How is this shit even happening?
Because he literally got agifted draw and then they don't
fight again and then, dude, justkeep his title, Like yo, they
just gave the guy a draw when heactually won the fight.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
Yeah, he moved up.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Because if it's a draw.
The champion keeps their belt.
Yeah, no, I understand that,but I'm saying you move up, why?

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
I think they said he was getting drained Because if
you rewatchwatch the adamusfight and mind you, I'm a huge
adamus fan, like I got adamussigned to thanks for playing, so
I'm a really big adamus fan,he's one of my favorite fighters
.
But in the early part of thatfight, like like the first four
or five rounds, shiraz waswinning.

(01:03:16):
He was controlling him with thejab and the straight left
because he's a southpaw.
But after that, like Adamastook full control but he got,
like Shiraz got tired.
So they're saying the weightcut drained him.
Yeah, I don't know how truethat is, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
I think Turk just realized oh, Shiraz, really
isn't all that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
Let me see what we could do here.
Berlanga is a big, supermiddleweight.
He's not Benavidez big or Zertobig when Zerto fought at the
weight class, but he's thick forthe weight class.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
I hope he knocked this guy out.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
I'm not even kidding, I've never rooted for Berlanga.
I'm rooting for him in thisfight.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
I hope he knocked him out.
He's selling a lot of tickets,he's selling the majority of the
tickets for this fight and ifhe does knock him out, bro, that
place is going to erupt.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
That place is going to erupt.
I hope he knocks him out.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
He also did.
I guess he is doing the rightthing.
We get a little wrapped up inthe social media videos and
stuff.
I'm like, oh, I hope he's justnot doing this for money,
because it seems like that it dobe seeming like that he looks
like the type he's New York.
He's training, though he'straining in Colorado, so he's up
there.
I ain't going to lie New Yorkpeople, or what is it Big Bear?
Is it Big Bear California BigBear or Colorado?

Speaker 3 (01:04:33):
but there's a big gym in Colorado.
That's where.
Bud trains for his camps.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
He's at one of those and it's like the same thing Way
north low air quality orpressure, whatever the fuck it
is.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
High altitude and shit.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
And he got out of New York to train, which is good
for a guy like him.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Yeah because, if you go to New York, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
He also dude.
He lost most of the Canelofight but he was trying to win.
I don't care what anybody says,I don't like him.
Oh yeah, a hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
I liked him after that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
I re-watched the fight.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
I literally just re-watched the fight and he's
like yo, I'm like yo, berlanga,he got something.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
Bro, the fight to make, though, you just got to
put it together.
The fight to make, though, he'sgot to put it together.
If Berlanga does lose thisfight, right Say he does lose
this fight.
The fight to make is Calebversus Berlanga.
That's a huge money fight rightthere.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
Yeah, but I don't think PBC loans him out.
No, pbc's going to milk Plantfor everything they got, and I
think.
Plant had a rematch clause forthat last fight.
But, I'll throw this at you.
I'll throw this at you Even ifBerlingo wins, because if
Berlingo wins, he's not going toget another fight against
Canelo.
Canelo is not going to fighthim again.
Boo-boo, who's that?

(01:05:47):
Who's that guy, dude?
He's about to be either 38 or39 years old.
It's the perfect time.
He's not great at supermiddleweight.
Get the boo-boo fight, or thiswill be really disgusting.
If they do this, fucking, bringBilly Joe Saunders back.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
Yeah, I could see that too.
Billy Joe's been chirpinglately.
He's like I had a meeting withsome guy in England.
Listen back to this fight,though.
Let's just try and stay on this, I'm sorry.
No, no, it's all good.
We all chop it up, so we go allcrazy.
Shiraz, what do you think I'mrooting?
I'm putting Berlenga knockoutas my bet, because I'm just

(01:06:27):
going to root for him and justpiss money away.
What's your prediction, willie,of how this fight ends?

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
What do you think?
I don't want Shiraz to win atall.
I don't give a fuck what it is.
I hope he knocks him out.
I hope Berlinga knocks him out.
I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
I think Berlinga wins the decision.
Either way, willie, I really doBerlinga decision.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
If he doesn't drop him, it's gonna be hard for him.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
That's probably a lot of plus money right there.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
Another thing too.
I said in the last show I don'tthink Shiraz has dealt with
this much animosity towards him.
New York fans are coming atthat guy.
They're coming at him.

Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
Even then, though, outside of his one-two from the
southpaw, what does he have?

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Just the length and the jab.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
Yeah, but he has that length, he don't have no power.
Yeah, he don't have no power.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
His jab has power.
Yeah, he don't have no power,his jab has power.
I'm sorry, but then again,everything I say he has he had
at 160.
This is his first fight at 168.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
Turk man.
He just messed it all up forthat guy when you started
cheating and shit.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
I'm good Dude, that bro after that, bro, that like
that made me not like turkey forlike because the whole thing
was you're fixing the corruptionin the muck, that we have the
sport, but as soon as a popularfucking muslim guy gets in there
, you become the most corruptfuck there is like I said like,

(01:07:57):
like I said, he literally becamethe promoter he swore not to be
.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
It's like a swamp.
Boxing is a fucking swamp.

Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
Do you think New York City's next mayor is going to
be at this fight, probablysitting right next to us?

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
I don't hope he's sitting next to Eric.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
Adams Alright, anyway , this fucking guy went live.
You idiot Jesus Christ.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
I don't even live there.
I live in Idaho.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
I was just kidding, but speaking of swamps and
boxing and boxing's weird shitand shooting people and
everything you just said, right,Wait what?
Julio Cesar Chavez Jr man?

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
That's the internet.
That was a nice one.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
Breaks the fucking Chavez Jr, that was a nice one.
Breaks the fucking internet,bro, that's a nice one.
Dude, real life boxing, likethe behind the scenes stories
and shit.
Hollywood can't write it LikeI've never seen this in a movie,
I've never.

(01:09:00):
I wasn't surprised, but I'venever seen this like in any
Sopranos episode, in all thecartel episodes, the shows they
do.
Every crime series couldn'twrite this up.
And I found out some more infoas I was doing my research with
what actually they had.
Julio Cesar Chavez do thecartels and I'm going to close
out this segment with that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
So what did you think when you heard that news?
Guys, ice came.
I'm like yo.
Ice is just making a fuck toget everybody you know, after
this big payday too, that hejust got Yo I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
Punch is stirring something up.
I see him, he's fuckingfidgeting.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
This shit is crazy Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
Punch.
What do you got?
I can't say anything.
All I'm going to say is thisLook at the shoes that Chavez
wore in his last fight and thefights before that.
I knew what.
What the fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
What the fuck do you?

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
mean.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
I can't go further than that.
I honestly cannot go furtherthan that.
He works for the company.
The shoes he was wearing.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
His dad are signed to us.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
So you knew after Him and his dad are signed to us,
so you knew after the fight, orI didn't know he was going to
get deported, but I knew he wasinvolved with some unsecured
characters for sure.
So that too I was tellingpeople, like I wasn't surprised,
Like Mexico's favorite boxer,Canelo right, Like he had some

(01:10:39):
ties and some shit going onthere, like he had to negotiate
his brother's release beforefighting rocky fielding, and I
don't mean the week before, Imean like 20 minutes before he
fought rocky and he did.
He did that himself.
So you're telling me likethey're gonna.
So it's like also, too, weforget we're very.
We live in america, right, sowe don't.

(01:11:00):
You got to look at the, thelower level boxing in america,
right?
It's real cheesy and shady.
Now imagine the lower levelboxing in mexico.
How shady and any levelfighting in mexico yeah, yeah,
yeah, but especially lower.
Like think of it like the barfights.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
I can't believe Devin Haney went over there and
fought in Mexico.
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
And lost.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
That's nuts.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
People be living double lives.
People be living double lives.
It's crazy.
I wonder what Punch be doing onhis spare time.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
He's just a chronic masturbator.
I know one when I see one.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
Nah, this is crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
Nah, but yeah, it is crazy.
Did anyone see?
Did Jake Paul make a statementor anything?

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
No, nobody did, Nobody did.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
I ain't seen nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
So what I read, though it's just I can't, I hope
.
So what I read, though it'sjust I can't.
I hope they make a documentaryof this, because it's going to
be amazing to see.
What I read, though, was thatapparently, whatever big leader
of that Mexican cartel, like oneof one of Julio Cesar Chavez
Jr's jobs was to, when peoplewould fuck up, right, they would

(01:12:17):
, they would hang him orwhatever alive, and Julio would
have to punch him like apunching bag.
I'm like what the?
You can't write that, dude,like you can't write that up.
What?
This is going to be thegreatest movie of all time, dude
.
I hope Martin Scorsese gets onit, because this is hey, no, you
know what?

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
Honestly, though, you know, what would be sick is a
10, like a 10 episode series onnetflix, like 24 format, where
it's like one hour at a time butnot that long.
The whole thing, where canelolike has to negotiate his
brother's like release toknocking out building, to after
to where he has to negotiatesome more.
That would be sick.
Yeah, nobody gives a shit aboutChavez Jr, like I don't care

(01:12:58):
that he got deported.
Like is it really breaking news?
Like I'm being honest, is itreally breaking news that who
says Chavez Jr is a piece ofshit?

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
no, no, and we said it.
We said it when people wereasking me, like people at work
and people like in the streetswere asking me like, oh, what'd
you think of that, what'd youthink of that fight, or what'd
you think of him getting that,and I'm like you know, I I kind
of expected it.
I want to know, though, like Iwant to know did he, did julio,
not throw any punches yo?

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
that's what I just said.
You just took the words out ofmy mouth.
That's what I wanted.
That's the real question.
Yeah, now I'm thinking like I'm.
I was about to say I don't givehim, like, no, I don't give him
.
I don't like, I don't give himno leeway, no more.
Like I was, like it's like Ibefore I was like yo, this guy
not throwing no punches, youdon't give a fuck and the minute
I see why you don't give a fuckhe probably got so many side

(01:13:52):
deals and yo the the minute hedid throw punches, though he
started landing, started landing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
So I'm like yo did he fix this fight?

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
Nah, I think he fixed it.
It was some type of deals,because you know, he just he
make deals.

Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
Hold on.
Why would Julio Cesar Chavez Jrtake that fight?
What does he have to gain Otherthan a paycheck?
What does he have to gain?
Is he going to fight for aCruiserweight title anytime soon
?

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
No, no, nothing, nothing, nothing.
But I'm just saying like if I'mthe cartel right and I'm
gambling, I'm like yo, we'reputting X amount of million
dollars on Jake Paul, don'tfucking win.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
Yeah, I don't know Now the odds was for Jake.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
I guess so, I guess.
So If you were doing that, hewould have to get knocked out.
I was like, oh, knockout, butwhatever, that's enough on that.
It was funny to see man, thatis funny, boxing is crazy Boxing
is never dead.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
It's like every week, never, never.

Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
Bro, when I come up with these marketing ideas,
willie, you know what I tellcompanies when I meet with them
it is the easiest sport to fakea crazy story in.
Yeah, because crazy shithappens all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
And the real stories are crazier than whatever you
could think of.
It's insane dude.

Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
Yeah, it makes no sense.
It is the most bizarre sportwith the most bizarre people in
the world.
It's insane.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
We love it, we fucking love it.
What else?
We're about an hour and 15 innow, so we're going to try and
close it out quick, pacquiao.

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
Barrios has a good undercard, like prelim who, who,
who A prelim Gary Russell iscoming back.
Mark Sio is also going to be onthe prelim.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
I like Mark a lot Mark could bang.
I like Mark and I, like Garyand Mark, beat Gary.
Gary hasn't fought, though, inwhat like two or three years
right His last fight was Magsayo, which I think was 2021.
That's a long.
That's four years.
That's a long, long time ago.

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
Oh, also thanks for that's a long.
That's four years.
That's a long, long time ago.
Oh also Thanks for playing.
You know this.
I'm going to announce it now,just like nobody's watching.
I don't care, I hope they are,but we just got a sick fighter
For the t-shirts.
Fucking Regis agreed.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
Oh, awesome, awesome.
He agreed that's sick.
Regis Progray is signed withthanks for playing.
That's going to be a sick shirt, but did think about it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:23):
He's rugaroo, which is a werewolf like we can make
something so fucking sick withit, that is awesome did you?

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
did you reach out?
And yeah, whatever we're on thelive recording, who cares?
Did you read out, reach out tojenny or no?
Not yet, not yet.
No, okay, I will if you want tomessage again.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
If you want to give her my number, I'm totally fine
with it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
Okay, yeah, I'll text , because I can't fight you
again.
She's like going, it went topurse bid or something.
She's about to fight for a belt, so what date do you know?
No, I don't know, because itgot like mexico it was in mexico
and then she said it got pushedbecause the girl backed out,
but it is for a belt, but I'lllink you with her Also.

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
Frank Martin is supposed to be on the tankard
against.
Rancid Bartholomew, which Ijoked about on this show.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
You're like the Nostradamus of boxing.

Speaker 3 (01:17:13):
Yeah, but I wasn't even being predictive, I was
just joking.
I'm like, oh yeah, he's goingto fight Rancid Bartholomew like
sarcastically and then we justcome down oh, frank martin might
be maybe you gotta find thatclip yo lately.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
I don't know why, I think it's just the vibes, like
our three energy, we we broughtyou in.
Like we've been like predictingshit, not fights, like not the
outcomes of fights, but likewillie.

Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
Yeah, all three of us need to manifest me fucking
Sidney Sweeney.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
And my penis growing, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
Hey, speaking of tiny penises, bro, there is a movie
coming out about John Madden andShane Gillis is in it and I'm
so excited.
Oh my God, that's going to befunny Dude.
Christian Bale plays Al Davisand Nicolas Cage plays.
John Madden Gillis is in it andI'm so excited.
Oh my God, that's going to befunny Dude.
Christian Bale plays Al Davisand Nicholas Cage plays.

Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
John Madden.
Is it a?
Is it a comedy or no?

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
It's a documentary right, it's like a documentary
yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
That's awesome Dude, that's so fucking fire.

Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
And Shane Gillis is in it.
I'm stubs.
By the way, Shane Gillis callshis penis a teen-us.
I'm not firing shots.
If you follow the Old Testament, so do toe.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
Back to boxing.
He's getting offhand.

Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
I don't even know where to go with that I'm sorry,
you have to start naming to mewhite people for me.
Yeah, sorry, we're naming whitepeople for Willie.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
Shane Gillis is like one of the best comedians out
right now, and he's accepted bythe black community.

Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
Chappelle had him open for him.

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
He has a funny ass joke.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
This one guy was like oh, I have a bunch of black
stuff in my apartment.
And he's like what black stuffdo you have?
Other people's stuff?
Like just funny stuff, blackstuff?
Do you have Other people'sstuff?

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
He's a great comedian , he's awesome.
He's like right now.
Like I told you, he's going tobe the next movie comedian we
haven't had one in a while LikeAdam Sandler.
The next funny, funny moviecomedian.

Speaker 1 (01:19:13):
Will Ferrell hey, you guys want to say hi to my
roommate.

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
Sure, live on the Spartan.
We're going to say hi to herroommate.

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
She knows Alexis Aguayo's son.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
Really, yeah, no, her old stepdad was really good
friends with Alexis Aguayo.
That's awesome.
Yeah, she doesn't evenunderstand that.
And, fun fact, she was at Tysonversus Paul and Serrano versus
Taylor too.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
A therapist is going to listen to this podcast and be
like you all have ADD and youall need medication, I might get
a pass.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
Yeah, you might Willie.

Speaker 3 (01:19:49):
She never watches boxing with me.
She went to Jake Paul versusMike Tyson.
That's amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
Let's see her.
She just went inside.

Speaker 3 (01:20:01):
Let me ask you something Whose scooter scooter
is that?
It's not a scooter, this is afucking aerator for the lawn oh
my bad, I just saw oh wow,that's not my bad, all right,
anyway, back to boxing.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
Uh, that's awesome.
You signed regis progray,who'll be coming out with shirts
, and uh, yeah and yeah, that'sexciting news.
I linked him with Ginny, too,to try and get her some shirts
too eventually if she could putlike a bear next to us she'd be
drinking and we're still livejust that one time.
But she calls herself like thepirate, so you could probably

(01:20:35):
make a cool shirt with that,something like that.
But and I play.
Steve's a lot, I can come upwith something yeah, okay, yeah,
uh, I was gonna speak on betterbe of real quick and then we're
gonna close out the showbecause we are all over the
place as usual what better be itwith what he said about Bivel,

(01:20:57):
or yeah, fuck him.
Oh, wait, wait, you know whatfuck that?
Fuck the better be of stuff,who cares?
Hopefully that fight happens.
What are you mad at?
He just said oh, when, when ishe going to make this fight
happen?

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
Because the other fight would have happened sooner
If he didn't fucking pull out.
True what do you mean?
What do you want this guy to do?
Do you want him to vacate histitle?
He got mandated a title againstsomebody else that we don't
know.
Thank you, ibf.
You fucking assholes.

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
Either way Sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
The real problem with boxing is it's not, it's not,
you're just grabbing thefrustrated stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:21:38):
It's not, it's not, it's not.
This is frustrating.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
The real problem with boxing it's not so much the
fighters not wanting to fightpeople.
To me, like the belt system isawesome, but the mandatories.

Speaker 3 (01:21:49):
When you make a mandatory, make it like a good
mandatory and then like, like,not these nobodies Like the IBF
is the only sanctioning bodythat will say like look, if you
don't fight, you're mandatory,we'll strip you Awesome concept.
But then their mandatories arelike hey, it's your neighbor,
it's me, it's that guy thatBerlanga fought.

(01:22:10):
Hey, we have an IBF mandatoryposition on LinkedIn Go ahead
and apply.

Speaker 2 (01:22:19):
And again, speaking of the sanctioning bodies, we
didn't speak on this and I guesswe have to.
Uh, jake paul was ranked 14 bythe wba, but apparently not for
long they're gonna.
They caught a lot of heat andsteam and I want to say
something.
I thought the ali act right,the muhammad ali act was in
effect to not let rankings getskewed like this and apparently
they just forgot about it forjake paul because he's the money
yeah am I wrong?

Speaker 3 (01:22:41):
yeah, okay, first of all, he was ranked 14th in one
of the most obscure weightclasses obscure weight class but
the all the act is based onperformance and he just beat a
real bot like yeah, but anon-ranked real boxer who hasn't
fought either way, though likewhat else is going on at

(01:23:02):
cruiserweight and?
I'm not defending jake paul butdude 14th still I.
I 14th is like can you name 14cruiserweights?
No, I can't name 14cruiserweights.

Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
No, I can't name 14 cruiserweights.
I just know my guy, giovanniScuderi, from Italy, worked his
way up trying to get fights fromthe bottom, was 13.
And Jake Paul is nowhere nearon his level.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
No, but we know that.
But like the whole thing islike the WBA is going to
investigate the WBA.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
The only, the only that sounds like some weird,
like that sounds like no, you'regood.

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
Put yourself in an audit.

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
That sounds like some weird shit that happens in like
police departments Like, oh,we're investigating him, or the
FBI or anybody who does shadyshit.

Speaker 3 (01:24:04):
Israel is going to investigate Israel.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
Oh, okay, I believe it Alright, but it is very, very
, very odd that they just hewasn't ranked 15th, 16th, 17th.
He just jumped to 14th, like,like what the fuck jumped to 14.

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
What's the numbers special?

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
that's not weird like what?

Speaker 3 (01:24:24):
no, I, I don't agree with it, but I also it's like
like I can't I think it'd everbe all right if he was like 20
yeah, start at like 25, maybelike top 25, like, like, like
what they do in collegebasketball, right, what is it?

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
25 teams?

Speaker 3 (01:24:41):
Yeah, but that's like .
But college basketball doesn'thave rankings, they have
conferences.

Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
Yeah, so it's like no , but the national ranking right
.

Speaker 3 (01:24:52):
Yeah, but the national ranking is different.
That's not out of everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
I think they'd be rage baiting.

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
It's just very odd to me.

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
I think they did it on purpose to rage bait.

Speaker 3 (01:25:05):
Let's get everybody talking.
Okay, all right, all right,Hold on, hold on hold on.
Do you guys know who ScrappyRamirez?

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
is Scrappy.
Yeah, he's like the he kind ofhe fights on Jake Paul's cards
all the time.
Well he fights on Golden Boycards a lot, wasn't he recently
on Jake Paul's card too?

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
Yeah, his last fight, but he's a Golden Boy fighter,
is he?
I didn't know that.
Yeah, he is Okay.
Okay, he's ranked number one by, I want to say, the WBA, but he
lost his last fight.
He won his most recent fight,but he lost the fight before
that.
He's a draw.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
No, he lost.
No, I'm saying he's a draw, hemakes money.

Speaker 3 (01:25:48):
Either way.
I'm just saying why is Matiasalready getting a title shot?
He's won one fight since helost.

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
Yeah, but this goes back to what I said like this is
the problem, what's thestandard, yeah, so how far do
you drop after you lose?

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
Do they actually drop ?

Speaker 3 (01:26:06):
That's kind of my point.
It's like what did ScrappyRamirez do to go from losing to
winning one fight againstsomebody we've never heard of,
to being a number one contenderlike you even floyd.
If you want to go to floyd'scareer and look, I'm a floyd
defender.
I was a huge floyd fan when hefought.

(01:26:27):
But a lot of these guys hefought weren't like they might
have been ranked high by asanctioning body.
But were they really reallyranked that high of a contender?
No, so it's like where do youdraw the line?
And I'm not a Jake defender.
I don't think he's good.
I don't think he's deserving ofa title shot.

(01:26:51):
He's calling for a Badu Jackfight which I don't think he's A
serious about or B deserving of.

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
You know why, right.
You know why, though?
Because he got the trainer, histrainer.

Speaker 2 (01:27:03):
Yeah, but I don't think he wins that fight either.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
But that's the reason why they try to make that
connection.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
No matter how old Badou Jack is.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
They're like yeah, oh , his trainer was his trainer.

Speaker 3 (01:27:13):
My whole point is this is bigger than Jake Paul.
The ranking system is bad andyou you skipped over it.
Puma, the whole dimitri bivolsituation, the guy that he's
mandated to fight for ibf I'venever even fucking heard of him
yeah, me neither.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
But he didn't.
He turned that down, didn'texactly are we casuals?
But he turned that down didn'the Exactly Are we casuals.

Speaker 3 (01:27:40):
No, we take time out of our life to devote to the
sport of boxing, to createcontent for boxing.
I've never even fucking heardof this guy.
I don't even remember his nameand he is number one in the IBF.
This is different than JakePaul.
This is a shitty system thatthe OLLI Act was supposed to
prevent.
The whole OLLI Act was yourmanager and your promoter can't

(01:28:05):
be the same person.
Your promoter and your managercan't have a belt like, can't be
in charge of a belt online thatyou're fighting for and you're
supposed to get the rankingsbased off of performance versus
name recognition.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
So it's not.
Yeah, it was to help rankingshave more oomph, like more
meaning.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
Exactly, and you still get this bullshit.

Speaker 2 (01:28:28):
Yeah, but that's what I mean.
But the Jake Paul thing and Iknow I skipped over the Bivol
stuff is more eye-opening tolike, huh, like huh, it's more
eye-opening because we know whoJake Paul is.

Speaker 3 (01:28:42):
But for the regular people yeah, for the regular
people know who Jake Paul is.
They didn't know who WilliamScholl was before Canelo fought
him.
He was the IBF mandatory.

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
Think of, though, this we all, as boxing fans,
want boxing to be like a realsport.
That's on SportsCenter that wesee commercials like it was back
in the 90s and 80s.

Speaker 3 (01:29:04):
Yeah, Brunel Whitaker in the Monday Night Football.

Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
Yeah, exactly, we want all that again.
Right, and we're never going toget that.
When I got regular peoplecoming up to me like Jake Paul's
, ranked 14th, boxing is sostupid.
And then I got the peoplecoming up to me like Jake Paul's
, ranked 14th Boxing's so stupid, and then I got the whole UFC,
but that's because regularpeople know who Jake Paul is.
But that's what I mean.
It's not right Like it's not,like.
That's the problem.

Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
It was a rage bait, Like that's the problem.
That's exactly a rage bait.
We got all of us to sit hereand talk about this shit.

Speaker 3 (01:29:39):
They knew they was going to do that.
Who was the guy that ErrolSpence fought after beating Kell
Brook?
Because he won the IVF afterKell Brook and then he had to
defend it against the same dudethat fought I can't remember his
name he fought Tim Zhu.
He got knocked out in one roundby Tim Zhu.
He lost the decision toSebastian Fundora.
He's not good and he was thenumber one ranked contender for

(01:30:02):
Errol Spence in his first titledefense.

Speaker 2 (01:30:05):
Was it the Van Heerden guy?
Chris Van Heerden.

Speaker 3 (01:30:08):
No, not Chris Van Heerden.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
Ocampo no, he fought Carlos Ocampo.

Speaker 3 (01:30:14):
Lamont Peterson no, lamont Peterson was decent it
was either before peterson orafter peterson.
Either way, I'm just sayinglike.
Like we get these mandatoriesall the time that make no
fucking sense, that nobody wantsto see, that nobody wants to
pay to watch or go to, and wejust get it, the bivouac shit,

(01:30:36):
though the bivouac quick.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
And then we really got to end it, because we're an
hour 30 and we're trying not togo two hours again.
But the Bivol, the Bivol,biterbiev shit.
Right, I think there's more tothat, because, like the WBC
right, remember when the war inUkraine started, they were like,
oh no, we're not lettingRussians fight, so on and so
forth.
So then of course, the Russianfighters are like fuck you, what

(01:30:59):
the fuck did we do?
And there was just a lot ofdrama that transpired after that
.

Speaker 3 (01:31:04):
Dude Devo didn't even get his paycheck after the
Canelo fight.

Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
That's crazy.
That's crazy, that's unfair andcrazy.
I guess the point is boxing's afucking shit show.
It always will be a shit show.

Speaker 1 (01:31:17):
're gonna close it out.

Speaker 2 (01:31:19):
We'll still be here talking and chopping it up Next
week I am I'm gonna be in, notnext week.
Next weekend we're going to thefight Saturday.
The weekend after that,unfortunately, I'm gonna be in
Fucking Florida.
So shoo, shoo fights.
There's a bunch of fights onthat card I won't be able to
record.
I don't think.
It depends on when I come back.

(01:31:40):
I might be coming back Monday.
That being said, willie, me andFossil, we're gonna Try and put
out a shitload of content Ofour experience ringside At the
Ring 3 Tennis court.

Speaker 3 (01:31:55):
Add me as a collab, I'll help.

Speaker 2 (01:31:57):
Yeah, yeah, I will.
And again, I'm gonna, I'm gonnatry and like, go live, maybe on
the ride up, because I thinkI'm gonna make fossil drive.
Uh, what time are you trying toleave?
We'll talk about that after.
But uh, we're gonna do, we'regonna try and shoot as much shit
as we can and obviously we'regonna be sitting with a lot of
famous and boxers and realboxing people, so this should be
fun.
But punch, as always, thanksfor popping in.

(01:32:17):
I know you.
Uh, you had uh some.
Your roommate's family was over, so he's outside in nature
chopping it up with us.
Willie is here, as always.
That's really it.
That's all I got.
Um peace.

Speaker 1 (01:32:30):
Thanks for watching, thanks for playing.

Speaker 2 (01:32:32):
Thanks for playing.

Speaker 1 (01:32:34):
Thanks, thanks for watching.

Speaker 3 (01:32:35):
Give Rashidi Ellis a fucking fight.
Turkey.

Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
If I see him, I'll let him know.
Bro, I'll be like yo Turk, giveRashidi Ellis a fight.

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