Oh Jake Paul... and "Kid Austin" becomes a man.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
it's time for the main event.
It's the sparring podcast oninstagram.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Now as well, we are what is going on.
I am here with willie.
He rose from the dead.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
His hair grew uh, you see my strip.
I said damn long.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
He's got a little fro going on there.
You look like boots, bro yougot the boots.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Hair dude.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
I'm not saying you look like boots.
I don't want to be like, oh,this motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
There he is.
Punch lines, that's him.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
You know you be right there On the thin line, punch
you know that right.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Yeah, I walk a tightrope for real.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yes, and we are canceled before we even started.
Now what is going on?
It is live episode four of theSpartan Boxing Podcast.
No technical difficulties sofar.
Punchlines, you hear me.
Good, right.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yeah, I hear you guys fine.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
The only issue is probably gonna be me, because I
can't I cannot figure thismicrophone.
You know.
Same with us.
But it's all right, definitely,yeah.
Yeah, damn, bro, I can hear youand, um, I usually hear you
better though, but I don't know.
We'll work on that some othertime.
We are here.
We actually had a little bit ofa packed boxing weekend, a
little surprisingly packedboxing weekend.
Um, yeah, a lot of unexpectedstuff happened.
I was fucking totally wrongabout my guy Tevin Farmer, but
before that we got.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Nobody saw that, though Nobody saw that coming.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
True, true, I wasn't alone.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
I was not alone.
That's why I meant to look upthe odds for the first round KO.
That would have been crazy,yeah, that it was nowhere near.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
That would have been very crazy.
Nobody thought that that wouldhave been very crazy.
Nobody thought that Vegasdidn't think that either.
But we got some stuff to hashout.
Willie is with us.
I'm more comfortable now.
It's not just me and punchlines, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Y'all boxing geniuses , ooh boxing geniuses, I
wouldn't say that Y'all got alittle of both sides you know
what I'm saying what do you mean?
I'm just saying y'all got alittle of both sides.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, what do you mean?
I'm just saying y'all like fansbut y'all know what fans know
we're losers, nerds.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
I was happy We'll get into it.
But I noticed something in theJake Paul fight and I don't
think it was something an expertwould notice how rigged it is.
Well, that is part of it, buteven outside of the semantics
and the conspiracies and shit, Inoticed something and I pointed
it out.
And then today I heard PaulyMalignaggi say it much more

(02:37):
intelligently than I did andbroke it down pretty well, but I
was like oh nice, so I wasright.
Then Yo, lately I like.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Pauly on the commentator.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
That was last week or the week before.
Dude, great, one of the bestcommentators, jahafi Jahafi.
Yeah, yeah, I love Paulie.
Yeah, I like it.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah, I'm like yo.
That's better than hearing Tim,I ain't going to lie.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Dude Paulie.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
I fighter paulie is one of my favorite announcers
ever, like literally ever, andI'm not just saying that because
I'm I'm also italiano, butspeaking of italianos, uh,
willie made me spaghetti.
Just want the people to see thatnice yeah and yeah uh, someone
just commented wow, jakeginsburg, yo, I heard paulie
doing bare knuckle.
Is that true?
That is true.
I think he has a three-fightdeal with bare knuckle.

(03:27):
And another good thing aboutPauly Malignaggi he's a dog dude
, because in that bare knuckleshit he said I don't want to go
straight to the champions, Iknow I can.
I want to work my way up, Iwant to fight, I want to earn my
he really about to do that yeah, again.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
I mean he do bare knuckle like a few years ago.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah conor mcgregor's boy, didn't he uh-huh um and he
they.
Some say he lost.
I thought he won, but yeah, Ithought he.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
I remember watching it.
It was very uneventful.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
To be honest, it wasn't a fun fight um oh wow,
we're getting, we're gettingsome hits speaking of bare
knuckles um cassara boxing tv.
Anybody know who that is.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
I don't Not off the top of my head but shout out to
him.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
He said how are you guys doing?
We are doing good.
We are talking about PaulieMalignaggi.
Willie made me some pasta.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, tommy Morrison's son.
He did a debut with some bareknuckles Really.
I didn't even know that shitthat's crazy.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
He won too.
But yes, jake, that is true,pauly Malinagy is doing their
knuckle seconds, but this is notthe Pauly Malinagy show.
This is no, this is the spar inboxing podcast.
I would love to have Pauly onit, though.
So, pauly, if you do catch wind, listen.
But as an announcer, yes, he isone of my favorites, and the
guy that we're going to speak on, deontay wilder, is part of the
reason.

(04:47):
He was a little jobless for alittle bit, but I spoke on that
before.
Um, let me just give abreakdown real quick of what
we're going to talk about.
We are here.
Willie is here with his hair.
Uh, me punchlines is here.
He's got the nice thanks forplaying shirt on what about your
hair?
I don't have my shirt.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
It's my Sandy.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Ryan shirt bro.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Shout out to Sandy Ryan Y'all motherfuckers quit
commenting on her posts too.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
I'm not talking to you two, I'm talking to
everybody else.
Everybody that comments onSandy Ryan's push-up videos
knock it off.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, he has a little crush on Sandy Ryan.
Kassara Boxing says what youguys think of Jake Paulul.
We are going to get there.
Cassara, keep watching.
I'm going to give you a littleshout out too, because you're
commenting my page is aboutboxers, that interview and post
them on my page.
Uh, yeah, cool.
I don't know what that means,but just, uh, keep listening.
We're going to get into pauliemalnagi, but first let me give
you the rundown real quick.
We have a little in billyversus selecky, a little quick

(05:41):
review of that.
Uh, what expected happened justway too early.
Um, we are going to speak onwilder versus herndon, dionte,
wilder versus herndon.
Not much to talk about there aswell.
Uh, obviously, like, uh,cassara boxing just asks.
We are going to talk about jakepaul versus julio caesar chavez
jr.
Uh, that whole card itself.

(06:01):
Actually, we're going to speakon most of that card anyway, and
whatever you guys want to talkabout, you know how that goes.
Um, very disappointment.
I was wrong and it takes a realman to admit when he is wrong.
I was totally wrong because Iput I think it was like almost
200 on tevin farmer.
So we, we are going to speak ontevin farmer versus floyd
schofield.
The account is not looking good.

(06:22):
Gibberto ramirez versus uniladuticos and all the other news
and current drama in boxing.
Every week there is new drama,new announcements, other than
the fights.
Boxing will never die with thedrama that goes on.
Good to see.
Let's uh, just get right intoit.
Um punch lines.
I know you were watching thatfight.
We were texting billy versusselecky out of canada praise

(06:45):
canada.
What'd you think?

Speaker 3 (06:49):
I mean, uh, it was a showcase fight against a name,
like you know, or that youshould know, for like no casual
fans watching billy, as we knowanyway.
But it's like you know he's notgetting the top fights but he's
fighting the same, you know, solike he just fought pacheco and
shit.
You know he's not getting thetop fights but he's fighting the
same, you know, so like he justfought Pacheco and shit.
You know, we, we all kind ofexpected in Billy to win.

(07:09):
I just I didn't think it wasgoing to be in the first round.
That is the, the combo too,cause I, when you rewatch fights
, you get to like look, you getto like slow down a and watch it
a little differently, becausewhen you're watching it in the
moment you're a little morelocked in.
But the replay of the combo hethrew to knock him out was it's

(07:30):
fucking dope dude.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Dude, that was a great fucking combo.
Is there really a rewatch of afight if it lasted all day long?

Speaker 3 (07:36):
That's true.
Yeah, you're rewatching it.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
He was watching the entrances.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
He watched the nice highlight.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
He watched a nice highlight.
But again, everybody expectedMbili to win, but nobody
expected that quick, nobodyexpected him to come out that
sharp, that shit was an uppercutfrom hell.
Just like another fighter we'regoing to talk about later.
The biggest takeaway I got fromthat, though and again, this
was a showcase fight, you'reright, but it's like his second
showcase fight, because when hefought what's his face?

(08:03):
Devrinchenko, that was kind oflike his showcase fight, and in
the last show, I was like,talking about it, I'm like, you
know, and Billy, he kind of letme down, you know, and this is
like his get back fight, and hedid that.
But I just want to saysomething.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
You don't have a real belt right.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
No, no, no.
Canelo got all the belts.
Yeah, he's holding hostage, butwhat does that tell you about
devrin chanko and how tough heis?
The way he beat a selecky inthe first round and I know he
was going to win, but the way hedid that in the first round and
I'm not taking anything awayfrom him, billy just shows you
how tough devrin chanko is, thatukrainian, because with one arm
he lasted, he really did andagain, I'm not taking this

(08:38):
moment away from him, billy hedid what he was supposed to do
and and not even what he wassupposed to do and not even what
he was supposed to do.
He did more than what he wassupposed to do in the right way.
Coming off of what happenedwith Devorinchenko, like that's
all forgotten.
See how quick we forgot.
I'm just saying I'm just sayinglike props to to Devorinchenko,
because that the way in Billylooked, that is so good.

(08:58):
Like that, that is so good.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Left hook to the body clean left hook to the body,
clean right uppercut to the face, clean the head, like and it
was bad, it was, stoppage waskind of early, but uh, that
ending was inevitable.
Also the way he fell, like youknow yeah that was kind of
similar to how like ryan fellwhen uh campbell dropped him.

(09:21):
Yeah, like everything just went.
He couldn't even break his fall, he just fell.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yo, and when I texted you and I was like, oh, fucking
body shot, dude, he's gotSelecki's got no body.
And then I watched the replay.
I'm like, oh shit, there was anuppercut in there.
I didn't even see it.
It was like hidden.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Bro.
But he texted me about theknockout and I was like my shit
hadn't even started yet likethey were still announcing them.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
He's like whoa first round.
I'm like what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (09:49):
I'm behind really bad dude.
That was like he was definitelystreaming it.
Uh, illegal.
Hey, no, I have espn plus.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
I legit have espn.
I've I got espn plus just towatch Top Rank and Monday Night
Football.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
That actually made me feel good about my internet,
because I'm always like man Iwonder if my internet's really
good, or is it just hanging on,you know?

Speaker 3 (10:13):
what I mean, Bro.
Espn Plus sucks ass for me.
I'll lose sound every 30seconds.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Honestly, the best stream when this all started for
me was DAZN.
I don't know what the fuckthey're doing.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
DAZN, like it's actually I, the hd just looks
better for whatever reason, youcan't watch.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
You can't re-watch the fights, right?
Yeah, you have to wait also.
Speaking of that, though,that's a good point.
That's a good point with thedamn.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
You got that whole app and you pay for.
You can't re-watch, you have towait till like releases.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
That's a good point.
You bring that up becauseJahai's fight and now this one
Top Rank usually posts a niceedit of the highlights on
YouTube.
It's actually pretty cool.
Top Rank does it.
It's on their page.
They stopped.
They stopped doing that.
I guess they're not funny, or?

Speaker 3 (11:00):
they fired somebody.
They're doing the bare minimum.
The fight clock is just thatbasic ass.
Black and white yeah, simpleshit, no graphics nothing.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
They had an out real soon, that's what that means and
just like, yeah, they are.
And just like, uh, the jihaifight, like I was talking about
it was empty in there.
There wasn't a lot of likeproduction involved, like you
usually would see it like thehulu theater you know, you know
how you uh moving out, like youstart moving out, yeah, little
by little, that's what yeahthey're doing, they're on their
way on their way out.
And same, though, with this itwas really dark.

(11:30):
My money, the canada card, I'mlike, damn dude, it's like.
There's like are there lightson over there?
Like what the fuck's going on?
It's very dark and like I wastalking about when we were
waiting, bro, they had like thewait screen.
I'm sitting, I there.
I'm like yo, it's been like 40minutes.
I exaggerated, I said like anhour.
It was 40 minutes of staring atan empty ring and I'm like,

(11:50):
could we get this rolling?
Or put commercials on?
Give me some noise.
It's awful when they do that,bro.
It makes no sense.
You lose so many viewers andpeople have a short attention
span as it is, and People have ashort attention span as it is,
and boxing can put on stinkers,and we'll talk about some
stinkers that happen too.
It's like, come on, at leastput a replay of an old fight on
there.

(12:11):
Yeah, that's a good idea.
Anything or a rerun of thebuild-up, whatever, yeah, but
Showtime actually, pbc used tobe good at that.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
They'd always just repeat what we just said.
And the ufc plays like the uh,like their version of, like all
access or whatever it is onrepeat.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
If you're waiting, you're waiting.
I get it.
I get it.
You want to.
You want people to tune intothe main fight and everyone to
see it, but that that waitingscreen is lazy as shit yeah,
it's literally just the ring,bro.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Not only that, they would do that when they would
interview, like fighters wouldbe getting interviewed in the
ring and you'd hear it, but thenit would just go back to that
like just a picture of the ringlike you know, generic shit they
might need some go-go dancesyou know what we gotta do dude,
next top ring card we go to.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
We gotta find that that camera for the wait screen
and just like start like, justlike, yeah, just stare up at it,
moon it or something Like yofollow the podcast.
No, for real, I'm going to trythat.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, I know that I'm going to go find that we
getting kicked out.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
I just thought of that dude Damn.
But yeah, I mean there is a lotof good fights at 168 for him,
Billy, but not with top rank.
So like there's a lot of namesthat would be great for him,
like Charlo's one.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
He's not fighting any of the PBC guys.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
I won't let that happen.
I know, but like that's reallythere's not, munguia would be
the only top-ranked guy right.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Yeah, but he's out for a fucking year, yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
So it's like he's kind of like that's another
reason.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
I hope Bud beat the shit out of Canelo, bro, oh
holding the belts.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
Yeah, but then they're just going to rematch,
yeah true?

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Oh yeah, Nobody's getting the fucking belt.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
But like seriously, there's even is Pacheco with top
rank Golden Boy.
Golden Boy, no, he's with Eddie, eddie, yeah, yeah, you're
right.
So so there you have it.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Those fights, another guy um what's he's gonna fight
mccombby after pacheco fights?

Speaker 2 (14:14):
yeah.
So it's like, honestly, though,I want a fight for us, for our
eyes, that would be fun, that'snot gonna happen.
I want beck the bully man, beckthe bully versus billy to me, I
think, and billy out boxes himand tags him up, but you're
gonna get hit with some shit Ithink after that fulgham fight
oscar's probably gonna shortenthe leash with beck yeah, I

(14:37):
could see that too.
He's just a dog warrior, yeah.
But there you go.
There you have it.
So the smartest thing I thinkit was errol spence ever said
was uh, you're on the wrong sideof the street or whatever.
And there is some truth to that, because now you see it within
billy super talent, very strong,got a tough, tough dude out of
there in fucking 50 seconds,whatever it was, and now he's

(15:01):
kind of stuck.
These promotions are going tohave to just come together if
they want to fucking promotethis guy.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
I feel like Canelo just got the whole shit on yeah
he does.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
But remember I didn't mean to cut you off, but
remember what I brought up lastweek how Mo Boxing, no problem.
Shout out to them Legit boxingpage.
They're not like opinionated,really like if, if they put up a
hypothetical fight, they'd callit that.
So they're not like misleading.
But he reported that plannedcard from turkey and he wants uh

(15:37):
and billy to fight lestermartinez dude, that's a sick
fight, that's a great fight.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Lester martinez is tough.
That yeah, that's another goodone, just another power puncher
too, who throws.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
He's not going to sit in there and try to run away,
because Sulekki tried boxinghomie and he's not a boxer.
No, never has been.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
No, but it just sucks .
They fight for no reason,though it's like they just sit
there.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
That's why Canelo I hope when Canelo retires that
division is going to get so muchbetter.
And this is the biggest problemwe always he kind of hijacks
the show a little bit because wealways I've been saying it
since I started this fuckingpodcast two, three years ago,
whatever it was.
Canelo needs to just get rid ofthese belts like he can.
Yeah, like everybody will stillwant to fight Canelo because if

(16:21):
you lose to Canelo you're amillionaire.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
It's OK, he's going to free up 160 too, because
everybody at 160 moved up to 168.
Chasing that fight.
160 is kind of a wastelandright now.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, that too, canelo is.
While he's great and shooingfor the Hall of Fame, the past
two years has not been good forboxing.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
That's no disrespect to guys like Adamas and Janovec
either, by the way, what I justsaid, but those two versus each
other.
As great as the fight as thatis, you can make it a
pay-per-view main event.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
That shit's gonna sell like 10 000 yeah, you're
right and yeah, and that's a top10 fight in the sport in my
opinion but think of how goodthis weight division would be if
the belts were freed up, likebecause then people can make,
they can make man, if the, ifthe sanctioning bodies did what
they were supposed to and mademandatories like good
mandatories.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
Uh, you know what turkey should do, bro, since he
loves this nostalgia shit withboxing.
If once canelo gives up thembelts, or even if not, you know
what he should do the super shityeah, another super six, yeah,
yeah yeah, that'd be awesome,that'd be crazy.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
But run it better because the format Super 6 was
confusing.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
Do like an eight-man tournament?

Speaker 1 (17:30):
I thought that was what he was supposed to be doing
.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Kassara Boxing says it would be my pleasure if I
could join the conversation.
I mean, you can.
I can't really throw you inright now, not really sure how
that would go.
He's commenting that on IG.
Huh yeah, I right now notreally sure how that would go.
He's commenting that on ig huhyeah, I don't really know how it
would work on ig but um, tellhim to pull up, send me an
invite or whatever, maybe, andyeah, you could jump in, but
we'll wear address tell him pullup.

(17:55):
Yeah, yeah, come on over man.
Uh, I'll run around naked, nah,just kidding.
But, um, yeah, yo, yeah, nexttime for sure, just DM me, bro,
and we'll figure that out.
We're still working on this,our third or fourth time live,
so just bear with us.
Once we figure the kinks out,we'll have more interaction with

(18:15):
the peoples.
But yeah, that was really it,and Billy fucking did his thing.
Props to him because I was alittle down on him and he
changed the whole narrative.
That's what you're supposed todo bounce back matters and props
to him a guy that, um, I'vebeen down on, uh, freaking

(18:37):
wilder man.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Wilder versus herndon where did he fight?

Speaker 2 (18:43):
at when was that?
It was like it wasn't a placewhere they show a lot of fights.
Wichita.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yeah, wichita, kansas , kansas.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Yeah, what the fuck?
I ain't gonna lie.
That shit looked like he's atthe bottom of the bottle right
now.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Sly Tendencies just commented.
Shout out to Punchlines, bro.
You got me dying on the gramjust commented.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Shout out to punchlines, bro, you got me
dying on the gram.
Oh, that's the dude.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Um that sent me.
I sent you the screenshot of oh, that's when he was saying he
watched his.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Uh, he watches the show.
Yeah, he said he likes the show.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Like yeah shout out to him yo, bro, dm me.
You get a free shirt seriouslya sparring shirt.
That's your favorite thing.
Free sparring shirt.
Dm me slight, slight tendenciesfor real, for real, no, no, at
least he gives them away forfree.
Dude, there's Seriously ASpartan shirt.
That's their favorite thing tosay Free Spartan shirt.
Dm me SlyTendencies For real,for real.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
No diggity At least he gives them away for free.
Dude, there's fucking boxingchannels out there with less
followers than you askingmotherfuckers to buy them.
He'll get fighters on his showand ask them to buy them.
Don't name drop it.
That's so cheesy.
No, I can name drop him anyway.
Nobody's going to know who thefuck I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Facts, but like nobody knows who the fuck you
would talk about Herndon.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Nobody knows me either, I'm just saying Does
anyone know who Herndon is?

Speaker 2 (19:56):
You know who Herndon is.
No, that's who Wilder fought inKansas.
That's who Wilder fought inKansas.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
I wasn't hating on him for it.
Right, because he's coming offof some bad performances.
He's older.
I was like, all right, this isclearly a tune-up fight for him.
Not going to hold him for itthe only thing I wasn't going to
allow to happen.
I was like, okay, if he knocksthis dude out in brutal fashion,
I don't want to hear Wilder'sback.

(20:24):
Wilder's return to form.
Luckily, we avoided that Sortof Even with the win.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Sort of because he didn't knock him out in brutal
fashion and they were stillsaying Wilder's back, Wilder's
back.
I'm like dude, no, no, no, no,no, no, Pump the brakes.
I will say this though, andthis is kind of applause to
Wilder so, as a gambling man andfucking going broke because of
it, Wilder was on FanDuel'sfront main page for a special,

(20:53):
and you rarely see that inboxing.
The only other guy that was onthe front main page with
specials was Jake Paul.
So somehow Deontay Wilderversus Herndon dude made it to
the special page, and that'skind of how much of like a force
a really good Americanheavyweight is Like it shows you
, like holy shit.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
I don't know how anybody's jacking FanDuel right
now After what they came up withthat fucking Sharon Betts shit.
Oh yeah, we good on FanDuel man.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
But dude, think of that.
Like Deontay Wilder I don'teven know his first name,
herndon he made the front pageon Fandu.
Yeah, there was a special madefor him on Fandu.
So people are still invested infucking Wilder.
That's kind of crazy to me.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
And if that was a way to get gamblers to watch the
fight as a promotional tool, bro.
That's smart though yeah, it'ssmart, but like that's not the,
that's not the fight, nor thecard to do it, because not only
could I not name wilder'sopponent, I can't name any of
the other guys on the card yeah,that was on the card anybody uh

(22:00):
, not that I.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
It was very boring.
And that's another one where,like, the production looked
really bad.
It was on what was it?
Blk, prime or whatever.
Yeah, and it was very boring,and that's another one where,
like, the production lookedreally bad, it was on what was
it BLK?
Prime or whatever.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Yeah, and it was dark .
It looked like a 2B.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Yeah, yeah it looked very bad and again Wilder tried
to like work on things with thisguy.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Wait, hold on Y'all acting like y'all watch 2B
movies.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
I've seen them.
Yeah, yeah, no, I just I justsee the reels, the memes of the
reels, like in my instagram.
I have seen it.
I thought tubi was like coolfor like five seconds and then I
was like, all right, this isn'tcool.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yeah, I did think it was cool that's just like a
black thing for real, is it tubimovies?

Speaker 3 (22:36):
hell of black movies, dude, I used to yeah I mean
they show like old black moviesreally yeah, like dude, that
meme I posted the other day wasfrom a Tubi movie.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Oh yeah, what did it look like?
Step on my no.
No, you said that was today.
Which one did it come out?

Speaker 3 (22:52):
The one when I said Brian Norman Jr or Demi Haney,
first time he gets hit by BrianNorman Jr and he was like oh, I
got hit.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
It was spin, move and everything that's from the 2B
movie, damn, really.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Yeah, did you know the movie?
Or you just saw the clip?
No, I saw a meme and I was likeoh, I know what I can use this
for.
That's what I do when I seeshit in my algo.
I'm like oh, I can repurposethis to boxing somehow.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
He's always on go.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yeah, he's always ready, man Slide Tendencies says
.
I saw Herndon get destroyed byRichard on top rank.
Yeah, in like two rounds.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
My friend texted me that.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah, I heard the announcers talk about that.
You know it is what it is.
You know what was funny, though, during this fight what's his
face, that Triple G warrior?
He was calling out BerlangaShit.
I'm having a brain fart withnames, as usual.
Oh, rosado, yeah, yeah, gabeRosado was on the mic and he's
also a decent announcer, butwhoever was with him I don't
even know who it was was tryingto gas up Wilder like crazy, and

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you just hear Gabe, yeah, yeah,he's doing some good things in
there.
He wasn't trying to hate on him.
He's like yeah, yeah, he'sdoing something.
Okay, he's working on the jab.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
His jab looked better .
Yeah, everything else lookedclearly degraded.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
That shit looks slow.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah, very, very slow .
He's still throwing this likewindup, like he's pitching
something, and I don't know.
I just didn't.
I posted actually.
I was like yo, oh, that'sanother thing about FanDuel.
So, on FanDuel, this is howwhat Wilder was supposed to do,
first round, knockout was plus200.

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Second round was plus 400.
Third round was it just keptgoing up and up and up.
You rarely, you never see that.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
That's mad low.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
The highest odds were first round knockout.
Everything else went down.
You see that sometimes in in away fights, but like you never,
ever see that really in andwhile there had never seen a
plus 200 in our first round.
First, round dude is crazy.
Yeah, that's and, and I postedI was like yo if if this goes
past three it's a loss forWilder.
It went seven.

(25:01):
It went seven.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Seven rounds, yeah, and it was a long seven rounds.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
It felt like round 11 .

Speaker 1 (25:14):
I don't think that fight was.
I mean he was fading that guyfast.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, but he wasn't hurt.
Nothing clean was learned.
Slytendency says Wilder broughtin a lot of casual fans after
he beat Stiverne the second timeand went mega viral.
I had people I know don't watchboxing asking me if I saw the
Wilder fight.
Oh wow, see what I mean.
See the stronghold he has inAmerica.

(25:39):
A great American heavyweight.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
We're on the hunt, we are on the hunt.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Yeah, he had that crazy power uh you know, but
that's really it.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
I don't know what's next for him.
I, like you, said punch lineswhen we were texting.
You're like I don't think hebeats anybody.
Top 20.
I was like.
I looked at some lists and I'mlike top 30, give him a run for
his money too.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
Yeah, I don't I, I think, I think.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
You might as well let him throw him in there with Big
Baby.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah, jarrell, miller , jarrell.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Miller, either one of them.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
Or.
Andy you know, andy Ruiz,because he don't got much left
neither, and that's a big paydayfor both of them.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
But if you base, maybe If you base like Ruiz
versus Miller's last fight, thatwas a draw or whatever, they
both beat the hell out ofWofford.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
I think they're you know what I mean based off their
last fight, yeah, and even likewhen I texted you, I was like
fuck it, I think Ajagba beatshim.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Yeah, yeah, fa Ajagba's another one Right now.
Yeah, because he's on the upand up and again this happened
last week.
Someone's on the up and up,someone's on the decline.
Yeah, but he's like he's got nohead movement.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
that guy I thought he should have retired after the
Zang fight.
I'm glad he's getting money.
I'm not going to hate on himfor getting money, but I mean
he's 39 years old.
He gets hit frequently.
I guess against this Herndonguy he didn't, but Somebody that
knows what they're doing.
Yeah, you don't want to keeptaking hits from guys over 200

(27:12):
pounds and when he gets Everyfight when he gets hit, it gets
worse and worse and worse.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
It seems like ever since Tyson Fury it just keeps
getting worse, and he was stillgetting countered by that guy
bro?

Speaker 3 (27:23):
Yeah, he was, he was, because he still, when he
throws his jab, his hands arelike still right here, his right
hand's like way out here, likethis when he throws it.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Listen, though you might as well call Aiden Ross or
something.
Go online and yeah just Quitducking.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Charleston White Wilder.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Or no, you know what he should do.
Like like um, get on one ofthose reality tv shows, bro.
Like apparently him and hisbrother like banging the same
chicks and stuff.
So like, dude, he, he can makea lot of money there with that,
yeah oh, what he's got like anatlanta mansion.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
He's gonna be fighting jake paul in five years
they should get him and abtogether and then somebody oh
god ab that guy is spiraling broab bro.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
let him and Big Baby fight, let them both take
steroids.
Yeah, yeah, that's what.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
I said Big Baby him and Big Baby, I love that one
100% Let any heavyweight fightand both take steroids.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
Wilder on steroids might make someone's head pop
For real, seriously, yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
That'd be nice, like roll out of the ring Roll, make
someone's head pop for real,seriously, yeah, that'd be nice
like roll out of the ring.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Roll out of the ring just let them both do.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Imagine him on steroids how like his bomb squad
thing would be.
That was cool too when he usedto do that like that.
When he meant it like on thecome up the bomb squad thing
before it was real big, likehe'd say I'd be yo.
I get startled like what thefuck was that?
Yeah, he, yells bro, yells bro.
Yeah, he probably dude.
When him and his brother werelike banging the same chick like

(28:49):
what Dude.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
He was probably tearing that thing up.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Yeah, dude, they were putting her through some
fucking rounds, dude.
Yo, that girl needs to get onsome stuff.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
really.
She was doing rounds in thedoghouse.
Bro Yo, this is doghousesparring.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
you're not leaving till you get knocked out fucking
bomb squad orio is not working,she got she got bomb, squatted
dude all right, uh, anyway yeah,you know, I don't know what's
next.
I don't really.
Uh, wilder, hey man, I, I likethe guy when he was on the up
and up I I thought the Joshuafight should have happened.

(29:25):
It lost some steam nowobviously, he's not going to
retire.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
No, no, he's not.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
You can tell he needs money, bro I know, but I'm just
, I'm not even a fan of the guy.
I'm not going to say I dislikehim, I definitely don't.
I'm just indifferent on him.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
It was fun to watch him.
I never rooted for him, but Idon't want to see him get hurt.
Yeah, like you know, the top 10guys all hurt him.
Every single one hurts.
Oh, yeah, bad.
And we kind of saw that withlike zhang.
Like zhang proved that easilytoo.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Yeah, uh hey, um my boy, big bang zhang.
We got you know what.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
He's still training I mean, he's still training, so
damn, yeah, that's really.
That's really it on the wilderuh.
Next we got the card that thethe other special on fan duel.
You want to?
You guys want to start withjust jake paul himself, or you
want to talk about the undercardfirst, and then we got some
news notes and other boxingbullshit I don't know, I feel

(30:27):
like we should start with jakepaul.
That's what most people want tohear about anyway yeah, oh, hold
on this dude, this dude, thisdude's slide tendency.
He's got a lot we should readhim.
Yeah, he's got a lot of infosmall, I can't see him yeah, I
actually got another screen toput like next to me to see it.
But he, what do you?

Speaker 3 (30:45):
got, say it.
I think he's the one that'sfriends with your girl, sly.
You're friends with Mayer,right?
You know Michaela, I think it'sthe same person, I guess,
because he DMs me frequently,sly if you somehow get Mayer on
the show, she thinks I'mstalking her.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
I'm not.
I just want her on the show.
We could do remote.
I can't get handsy on remote.
Yeah, get her on here, bro, I'dlove to talk to her.
No, you are not invited.
You are not invited.
Listen, though.
He says he's got some good infoon Wilder.
I think this dude's friend Yoget wilder on the show.

(31:32):
I'll send you three shirts.
Finkel, said they.
They did the fight with blkprime because wichita is paying
a huge uh site fee to promotethe new mayor.
Why else would he go into bfe?
I think all the black folks inthe state showed up.
Yeah it's fine not a lot ofblack folks out there.
I had to guess, so you might beright.
Um, and then he said browilder's hands are almost half
metal.
He's had 11 surgeries.
Blah, blah, blah.
On the juice, he'd probablykill someone.

(31:54):
I'm telling you now, wildershould fight jake paul.
That's the level of competitionhe needs.
Oh good, good, you know, I likethe slide tendency slide, slide
.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Look, look one more time.
Wilder would take that money,so he's definitely taking the
fall.
He's definitely taking the fallbecause we still well, we
talked to Flats and he said he'sa real boxer, but these fights
are still feeling so fake.
We don't know yet.
I can't tell.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
Bro, you just want to get into it, then yeah, let's
get right into it.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Jake Paul.
Jake Paul versus Julio CesarChavez Jr.
Go ahead, punch, what do yougot?

Speaker 3 (32:40):
I get why everybody's like upset.
I just don't get whyeverybody's like angry.
And this is a disgrace, this isshocked.
What the fuck did you expectJulio Cesar Chavez Jr to do?
He's almost 40.
He just got out of rehab.
He's a perennial disappointment, not just because of his level
of talent, but because of hislevel of effort and commitment.

(33:02):
Not just because of his levelof talent, but because of his
level of effort and commitment.
He did exactly what you knew hewould do.
He didn't land a punch for liketwo rounds.
I feel like he didn't throw.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
He threw, I think, a total of like 10, I read
somewhere Like 10 punches untilthe eighth round.
He was a punching bag.
I will say this though, likeit's kind of funny like no
contact sparring so yeah, I didnothing, bro, he just stood
there hey, he's michael montero.
Uh, he's a ring magazine likewriter editor.

(33:36):
Now he has montero on boxing.
You guys probably heard of him.
He's pretty big in the box.
He's big on twitter actually,or x, whatever the fuck it is.
But he he said something thatmade sense.
He's like listen, I don't thinkhe took a dive.
He's like I don't think juliocesar chavez took a dive.
He's like when you don't fightin forever amount of years, come
out of rehab, you're fucking.
It takes you a long time to getwarmed up, but then you you

(33:58):
look at like the ninth and 10thwhen he did start throwing.
Jake Paul is not that good.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
No, he doesn't throw.
If he's getting thrown at andPauly said it perfectly what
Pauly said was he's a my turn,your turn type of guy.
He'll throw and then you'llthrow and he'll block it.
You know, cover up or heexplodes back like he moves more

(34:24):
than he should, but he doesn'tknow how to throw and defend at
the same.
He doesn't know how to defendand keep his foundation
encounter.
Yeah, and he doesn't.
I said last night, wheneverChavez throws, whenever anybody
throws on him, he doesn't doanything except cover up and
move.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
And I don't want this is going to sound crazy, crazy
to say as a boxing nerd likemyself.
I don't want to take anythingaway from Jake Paul.
Like the guy did win the fight.
He has no amateur backgroundand it is apparent that he's
getting better.
He's by no means good, but it'sapparent he's getting better
and I think sometimes as boxingfans we give in a little too

(35:02):
much just because of the draw.
He is the shit he talks, he iswho he is.
You know what I mean.
He is getting better.
I don't think he's going to hitthat next tier ever, because
with that next tier comes talentand skill and he's talentless.
He just has skills that he'straining to learn and he's

(35:23):
getting a lot better veryquickly because he has the time,
money, a good team etc, etc,etc.
What he is doing.
And now it's figured out he'sputting monster undercards on
because time and time again theundercard is for the real boxing
fan.
So if this is his gateway topromotional, he's doing the
right thing.
You know yeah he builds goodcards.
Dude that card was that cardwas a great boxing card.
He's doing the right thing, youknow.
Yeah, he builds good cards.
Dude, that card was that cardwas a great boxing card.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
He's definitely a genius in marketing, so that's
how he gets.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
He gets in with everything, dude the guy has no
amateur background was on disneyand got a fight with mike tyson
.
That broke netflix.
Yeah, like netflix didn't breakduring covid dude, when all you
could do is crank your shit andwatch Netflix, and he broke it.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Yeah, his accomplishments are more boxing
business-wise rather than actualboxing-wise.
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
But you got to see how he's getting a title shot.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
Allegedly there's no way.
There's no way.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
That was a good undercard matchup that he had on
it with Gilberto or ZertoRamirez Before we move to that.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
I got to address this because it's fucking insane.
Nobody's talking about itbecause I know they don't take
him seriously, but his call outsafter the fight when he was on
the mic.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Yeah, I saw your call out.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
I'll fight Badu Jack.
I'll fight Anthony Joshua.
I'll fight Tank Davis.
I'm like Badu Jack.
I'll fight Anthony Joshua.
I'll fight Tank Davis.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
I'm like they're like 130 pounds apart, he finally
gets announced that he's in therankings and now he's going to a
different weight class.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
He calls out a heavyweight and a lightweight he
took about shooting for thestars.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
He should have shot like Kobe but you know, listen,
he is what he is and this, thisfight, just showed me the most
about him that when he faces areal boxer and the real boxer
throws punches, he's going tolose, because he almost got
knocked.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
If that fight was going 12 rounds, he was getting
knocked out, he was getting hurtbro shabbos was still like I
wouldn't say rocking him, but hewas definitely bothering him,
like especially those shots tothe body in the 19th and and
tenth.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
And I do want to give jake paul some boxing credit in
a sense, because, like yo, helanded some clean shots on
chavez's body, like, yeah, superclean, and chavez is tough dude
look coke heads are tough.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
His right hook to the body in the beginning was
actually I even called it outlike it's pretty decent, I'm not
gonna lie, that was powerful,yeah and he would set it up with
a jab too.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
He wouldn't just I did see, like a lot of like when
he realized he couldn't get himout of there.
And as the fight went on,though, I'm like looking at jake
paul and I'm seeing a lot oflike, flaws, like, with his jab
he jabs right and then he justdrops it and it sits there and
I'm like, yeah uh, chavez jr 10years ago knocks you out.
Listen, chavez Jr is what he is.

(38:04):
The best part about Chavez Jr,though, is his father and every
fight his past, like three orfour fights that he's in when
they pan to his legendaryMexican killer dad and you just
see him screaming at his son indisappointment.
It reminds me of Little League,when I'd strike out at every
at-bat and I'd look over at mydad and he'd be fucking trying
to fucking kill me Even he'sgetting a lot of hate for that

(38:25):
shit from last night.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Prior to just being there, like yo, this is your son
.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
What did he say?
Well, no fans are saying likeshame on Chavez Sr for telling
us that Junior was going to begood, and the fact that he even
supports this shit is a fuckingdisgrace to boxing.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
It's like his son, though Come on, Do you think
he's looking at this shit aslike it's a legit boxing fight?
I heard Chavez Jr made likethree or four mil just from the
fight, like just from that, fromsigning Three mil just for like
what God bless him.
Imagine going to rehab, comingout and just oh, here's three
mil to fight some guy, To do asport that you grew up on and

(39:03):
love and been in your bloodlineforever, no matter how good of
shape you're in.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
They didn't even fight for half of the damn fight
either.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
It's moving around the ring Every fight it pisses
me off more that that dudeactually beat Andy Lee back in
the day.
It legit bothers me that hebeat Andy Lee.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Yeah, day like it.
Really it legit.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Bothers me that he beat andy lee, yeah, he did
fight canelo too.
That's yeah, but did that go?

Speaker 3 (39:28):
that went the distance right yeah, and he lost
every single round and canelonever even took a seat between
rounds the best.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
The best, though, was his fight versus fucking um
danny jacobs when he like justquit and then yeah, didn't you
say, he broke his hand?
He fought mad people.
It was like that fight I don'tknow if it was in Mexico or
Texas, I think it was in Texasit was a big Mexican crowd.
They started throwing fullbeers at him.
Danny Jacobs was bobbing andweaving.

(39:55):
It was his fault.
He said I didn't do shit.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
He made mad money off of just his last name.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
Yeah, he lived off of it entirely.
When I went to the fights in laback in 2016, I went to andre
burdo, victor ortiz too, yeah,at the the fight in la, where
it's outside uh-huh and uh,victor ortiz quit again, which
you know he had done before andwhen he was walking, yeah, and,
and like, a bunch of mexicansshowed up to watch him.
And when he was walking back tothe tunnel, there was a fan

(40:27):
waiting for him, and when thedude walked by, he fucking threw
nachos in victor martiz's face.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
It's crazy.
And everybody started likethrowing garbage at that guy
when the cops like fuckingescorted him out and shit I
think, though, in the dannyjacobs fight too I don't
remember a while ago now, but hesaid something like they, like
they went to interview him inthe rings, like I mean, I don't
know why they're booing me Ididn't quit and shit just
started throwing like I didn'tdo nothing.
That got him mad, but I thinkthey were mad at uh, chavez, jr,

(40:54):
uh, yeah, that that's really,and listen again again.
I just want to make it clear,because j Paul, jake Paul, bites
get a lot of hits.
I I'm not really hating on JakePaul.
Like the guy signed up for thisfight, fought this guy and he
is getting better, and for a guywith no amateur background,
he's what 11 and one Listenboxing wise he's.

(41:17):
He's on his way, I guess, to togetting better each fight but
he is by no means.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
Yeah, but no, I don't know, I feel like people my bad
.
I didn't mean to cut you offbro.
No, you're good, you're good.
People call it hate, like nottaking him seriously as a top
level boxer.
That doesn't.
That's not hating, that's justbeing rational.
Yeah, like, like, like.
I will acknowledge what you'vedone.
It's not easy to go from noamateur background and still

(41:45):
beat the guys you've beat.
But you're also not a top 10fighter in real life.
The only reason you're gettingput in these sanctioned body
rankings is because if you doget a title fight, whoever
sanctions that fight is going toget a fucking part of it.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
You're going to get a payday, yeah but again, I think
this is his, his door topromotions, I mean he's doing.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
He's doing better than dana white in promotions.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Yeah, the way he came in, he came in hot speaking of
dana white.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
that fight, the the the Chavez fight, was so bad
because I was watching at myboy's house.
We put on the UFC fight in themiddle of the fight.
Yeah, we'll put this fight onthe phone.
If anything happens, we'regoing to watch the UFC fight 20
seconds later.
That shit was over, so we putthe Jake Paul fight right back.
The fuck on.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
So I was actually that same kind of dude.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
That dude is an elite boxer so I was actually that
same kind of dude is on eliteboxer.
Yeah, dude, he jabs to the body.
He actually knows how to fighton the inside, because I said
that in mma nobody knows how tofight on the inside like a boxer
.
Like knows how to box on theinside because of muay thai.
I was like, but people aregoing to quit using muay thai on
the inside because of wrestling.
Yeah, I was like, but becauseof that, people are going to
start boxing because nobodyknees or does a lot in the

(43:03):
pocket anymore.
They do the MMA shit becauseMMA has evolved to be like its
own form of like a combat,rather than this merger of
different combats.
It's become like its own thingand because of the lack of like
knees and stuff on the insidenow and takedown attempts, like
more people are learning how tobox on the inside and that
dude's like legit, good at it,legit.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
And he like also what's his name.
More people are learning how tobox on the inside.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
That dude's legit good at it.
What's his name?
Ilya.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Teporia, ilya Teporia .
Yeah, also too, what I noticedwith him his fucking precision
on his punches.
You can tell he's doing somedouble M-bag workouts or
something.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
He can definitely come over here to the boxing
world and get a fight.
I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
They're talking about him fighting Canelo.
Don't do it, no, no.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Jake Paul, fight Jake Paul.
I'll up down for that.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
That'd be a money.
That'd be some money.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
I know the weight is way different.
But fight Jake Paul, That'd befun.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
How much do you weigh ?
155, bro I was going to say 160, but 155.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
But yeah, hey, I had the same kind of issue going on.
So I had a wedding and thenafter the wedding, we went to my
brother-in-law's house who'smore of an MMA guy, but he's an
old school boxing guy and I waslike, hey, he's like Jake Paul's
fighting right.
I'm like, yeah, he's like, oh,come to my house after we'll put
it on.
I'm like, oh, what's that?
He's like, oh, dude, it's theUFC fight.

(44:21):
I felt bad because I'm at hishouse.
I got Jake Paul on the TV.
I'm like, fuck, but I reallytuned in, for what we're going
to talk about now is ZertoRamirez versus Dorticos.
That's why I had him put thefight on and I'm gassing it up.
I'm like, yo, this is going tobe a really good fight.
Me too, this is going to be areally and I got people sitting

(44:42):
there like non-boxing fans.
It was after a wedding.
We're drinking, eating somefucking wings and fucking cheese
and I'm like yo, don't watchthis fight.
This is going to be a reallygood fight, a really good
fucking fight.
It was a fucking stupid,stupid-ass fight.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
Yeah, the most exciting part was when Homeboy
just started punching him in thefucking thigh.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
And you know what?
I keep betting Zerto knockoutand I have to stop because it's
very clear to me that he hasthis weird methodical way of
scoring points at this weightclass and he's not going for the
kill, he's not knocking dudesout.
So I really need to stopbetting that, because I did, I'm
drunk and I'm like I think youbet him every time every time
I'm like yo, he lands so much,his accuracy is so good.

(45:29):
I'm like yo, he's good enough,but there's just no zip on him.
And then, when you nothing,when the guy gets hurt, he
stands there and looks at himand I'm like, all right, at
least pepper him a little morewith no zip, whatever, whatever.
But he doesn't.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
He fights like Omar Figueroa, dude.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
Just a little yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
But like you would think, at this weight and his
size he's a big dude.
I'm like, oh, something's gotto hurt, no, and so I'm starting
to agree with you more.
And I wasn't at first, but nowthis fight kind of showed me Jai
Upataya fucking dismantles himfucking dismantles him.
He kills him bro, he also getshit.
A lot Zerno's in there gettingtagged up.
He's getting hit by that guy.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
The dude, though he won.
He raised his hand andeverything after the point
induction, and everything afterall them low blows and
everything.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
I was telling everybody.
I was like that's my real mainevent of the fight.
Then I watched it.
I'm like fuck y'all man this.
And then I watched it.
I'm like fuck y'all man.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
This guy Sly said Elias, elias' former coach.
Back to him, we'll get overthat.
His former coach trained withEddie Reynoso to learn boxing
for MMA.
Oh, so he definitely on thatshit yeah.
He might be on the Juicy Juicetoo man.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
Oh dude, you see what he just said.
He said one of zerto's maincoaches is malik scott.
That explains a lot.
You're right, bro.
Yeah, malik malik scott doesn'ttrain anybody how to be boxers,
he trains them how to be malikscott.
Yeah, yeah, that's exactly whatmichael fox said.
He's like he just turned wilderinto malik scott.
That's all he did.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
He didn't improve anything, and you're right,
because zerto is a good exampleof that too.
He's just lightning fast hands,good precision, good cardio.
He's throwing a lot towards it.
No zip and no kill.
No kill, like you need the kill, where's the kill?
Deontay Wilder was greatbecause he had the kill, like
where's the kill.
But I mean I'm done with him.

(47:17):
I will say this If Jake Pauland Zerto ramirez fight, I I'm
betting my house on zertoramirez knockout.
But uh, I don't think jake pauland zerto ramirez are gonna
fight, though that's just no,he's hoping he's getting an old
body, jag, he's hoping bodyjack's too old.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
He's calling out everybody.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
He's just like you know what body jack.
That's kind of smart.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Badu Jack beats the shit out of Jake Paul too.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
No, it is smart Because, willie, what you said,
not to cut you off, but Williesaid Tank is smart, don't
outsmart everybody.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
You said Tank is smart Jake.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
You meant Jake Jake yeah For calling out guys like
Tank and Josh.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
He knows people are going to say this is fucking
ridiculous.
He gets them talking Click,click, click, click click.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
He might end up fishing one of them in.
He always does.
That's a good point, willie.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
He's not beating a top 20 guy from like 160 up.
I don't think he's beating thetop, but whatever.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
But he got some good fighters on his shit.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Yeah, the undercard.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
He had a good one.
Our dance-off man.
We thought he was a rapper.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
That dude got fucked up.
Dude, it's funny you say that Ithought about this when that
fight went on.
I had to rewatch it.
I didn't get to watch it live,but so Willie and I we met
Avious Griffin he's boys withTerrence Crawford and he kind of
started Willie's dance off withTerrence.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
Crawford yeah, that was cool.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
And it was cool.
It was cool to see.
And here's something to be said.
We didn't really know muchabout him.
Uh, maybe we should have.
We didn't even really recognizehim, but he looked like a
flashy rock star rapper.
Like right, we both looked eachother like yo, this guy must be
like a rock star or something.
Decked out, huge jacket likesunglasses on, thicker than me,

(49:17):
like fucking look, he lookedlike a fucking legit.
Like yo, he looked like a rockstar and he was cool, though
very cool guy.
But now that kind of like isplaying to effect.
So then I start following him.
He gets signed with mvp, he'sposting all these things.
He is training and he trainswith, with friends of ours and
stuff and good camp in in, uh,terence crawford's camp with

(49:39):
bomac and all them.
So he is training hard, butyou're not a rock star yet.
Terrence crawford's the realrock star.
You're not there yet.
Like don't act like that.
And this kind of showed likejulian rodriguez wanted it more
and and he got knocked down.
Julian did.
Avs griffin has great skillsand talent, but this came down

(50:00):
to that nitty-gritty.
Who wants it more?
he didn't look great, though,bro, like I don't know, I didn't
see anything I saw some powerin both hands, though it was
nothing like like eye shockingfrom him.
Who, julian rodriguez you mean?
Or griffin?

Speaker 3 (50:18):
to be honest, kind of both of them.
But rodriguez showed me morethan griffin.
Griffin, I didn't think looked.
I thought he looked.
Sloppy, I thought he looked he.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
His punch resistance is really bad.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
He got hit and like got hit with those hooks.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Yeah, he got hit with a hook in the third or fourth
time and that's when it allchanged, like the confidence.
He got hit with a hook in thethird or fourth noodle leg like
yeah, four times in a fight andhe never got his confidence back
.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
Yeah, and I just don't think he has great ring IQ
either.
No offense to him, but I didn'tsee.
I just saw a lot of yeah, no,it looked like a fight between
two guys you've never heard ofbefore.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Yeah, and it kind of was, although I will point this
out and I didn't know this.
But Julian Rodriguez followsthe Spartan on Instagram and I
went to follow him.
I'm like, oh bro, this guy'sgot this knockout, let me follow
him.
And then I'm like, oh shit, hefollows me he's from Bergen
County too, so that's what's up.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
Shout out to them.
He's from Jersey.
He lives in Harrisburg HeightsI was like one town over from
where I work but your man, hehad the same problem.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
your man's over there had that fucking hair bro, I
was just going to go there thatfucking hair.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
He's talking about Oshaki Foster.
I got to post it.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
This hair was in front of him, on the side of him
, and then I never seen this.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
They taped it up mid like the fifth or sixth round.
He had tape in his hair andsame thing.
It was annoying.
But this brings me to my nextpoint.
That's on the, that's onmanagement, and bomack in them
and and we're seeing some, someslips in in that whole great
camp.
Like that's on them, bro,because because if I have a
fighter right and his hair is,his hair is bouncing around,

(51:54):
covering his eyes every punch hethrows, it's bouncing.
You feel that, like you feelyour hair bouncing.
It's a distraction.
If I'm a, if I'm a manager anda trainer, whatever, a cut man,
I'm going to say, bro, you gotto cut your hair.
Like the tape isn't going towork.
Oshaki Foster once came outwith hair down to his ass taped

(52:14):
up.
Bro, it looked like a fuckingbaseball bat.
He was carrying a baseball bat.
Oh, like Derrick Henry Worsealmost, bro, like worse, because
it was like it was crazy, and Ilike Oshaki.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
It's like he was about to do a Pokemon fucking
slash.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
Whip, whip, it's just oh, whip it with his hair.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
Fucking freezer-looking-ass bitch.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
I say he look like a Hebrew hammer.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
Oh, shout-out to Cletus Selden.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Yeah, that's funny Yo , but yeah, that to me is on
Like BOMAC, shouldn't Like yo.
Bro, listen, Cut your fuckinghair.
Yeah, Cut your fucking hair.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
I mean, you don't really gotta cut your hair, but
I feel like they felt like youknow he was gonna get him out of
there or some shit like that.
You know what I'm?

Speaker 2 (53:02):
saying, yeah, they got a little too cocky, but
Julian Rodriguez believed inhimself.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
How long he had that hair for, for the fights and
shit.
I know.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (53:09):
I'm saying Bro.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
the fact that they taped it, though, means it was
bothering him.
It looked annoying.
We don't know if it's annoying,it looks annoying, but who
knows, bro, this shit justflapping around every side of.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
He was on each side.
It was just making appearancelike one side he was.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
Yeah, it was like it looked like something was
jumping on his head.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
You got the dude knocked, the shit back to the
other side.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
So I said bro's hair looked like goro from mortal
kombat yeah, exactly, yep yep,the fact that they taped it in
the fifth or sixth shows that,yeah, it's bothering me.
Then they taped it and, like wesaid about the oshaki hair, now
it turned to like paper mache.
Yo, oshaki's friend actually, I, I mess.
I met him at fights once.
It's like a friend from himfrom high school, like one of
his boys.
I told him like bro, you gottatell him to cut that hair.

(53:54):
He goes oh my god, I know it'sgetting away from the money like
yeah get this money out, youout, you got to get in the.
And that goes for NFL playerstoo, when they have the dreads
outside the helmet and you canget it pulled.
Bro, cut your fucking hair thatshit got to hurt.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
Bro, the nastiest dreads on the planet are David
Diamante's, bro.
That shit's gross.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Oh, disgusting.
Remember we were talking.
I was like oh, I wish you saidyou were like farting.
He was farting and he was likeoh, I wish I could send you
smells.
My farts are crazy right now.
And I was like, oh, I wish Icould send you smells.
I would have sent youDiamante's hair.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
I even have a meme about it.
Like when you get a whiff ofDiamante's dreads and it's just
like a dude throwing up.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
That guy went to his own bar and hung out for like
five seconds, remember we saw?

Speaker 1 (54:43):
I heard he's an asshole, yeah, I was listening
to, like I was watching, likethe old fights.
I'll tell you, I was watchingall the old fights.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
Yeah, yeah, willie's going on like a YouTube history
tour.
I like that, fuck yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
Yeah, so I'm listening.
I don't know the announcer name.
It was already announced thatthat was repeating names.
Know the announcer name?
It was already an announcer.
That was repeating names.
You know how he'd be?
Diamante would be like oh,davis, davis or something like
that.
Somebody was already doing thatback in the day.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Oh, really yes.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Oh, I thought that was his own.
I gotta get that announcer name.
That's crazy.
He really stole that.
He stole that announcer.
That announcer was doing thatshit.
He was repeating that shittwice.
I don't know what he was doing.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Go find that That'd be funny.
What the hell, Diamante, youthief.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
Who the fuck was that goofball announcing last night?

Speaker 2 (55:31):
The Jake Paul card.
I don't even know.
I've never seen that guy beforein my life.
I kept thinking of the Joker.

Speaker 3 (55:39):
Yeah, because you were in a purple suit.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
He had a purple suit on.
I could not not think of thejoker, the announcer on the jake
paul card.
Oh no, he was tall as fuck too,that guy.
Yeah, he's big as shit.
Uh, scott sly says the lightsgot to griffin.
You could see it on the walkout.
Yeah, dude, he thinks he's likea rock star which, whatever
he's making money, I don't carehow you dress, whatever you need
to be confident as a boxer too.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
That can't go.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
I don't know If you were to saw this guy.
Everybody there thought hedapped up Terrence Crawford and
were like he must be a famousrapper.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
You look good.
You play good, they pay good.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
He's just not big.
Think about it.
He signs with MVP, saying yeah,yeah, he's just not big.
Now, dude, think about it.
He signs with MVP, which is agreat promotion.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
They're great for promotion.
He was supposed to show out bro, he got everything, he got
everything.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
Where was that fight?
I forget the Toyota Center.
Where is it?
Honda Center, honda Center.
I think that's where the Ducksplay in hockey.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
They sold it out and it was the highest gate ever
there, since, like Ryan Garciaor some shit.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
And he just signed you.
It's the highest gate everbecause of Jake fucking Paul and
you do that, so I just want himto get a little hungrier.
Sometimes you got to go back tothe basics, yeah, and I think
that's really why JulianRodriguez won.
And you are right, it was twoguys nobody really ever heard of
.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
Well, I posted it on my story.
After the fight I said I wantto see Julian Rodriguez fight
Rashidi Ellis.
Yeah, yeah, rashidi Ellisshared it.
Yeah, I don't want to get ittoo off because I'll go on a
soapbox for Rashidi Ellis, butthe fact that that dude's not
getting fights is fuckingbullshit.
And fans bring up like oh, helost to Villa, he's trash Like
if he was trash, people wouldfight him.

(57:22):
Yeah, because he's got arecognizable name.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
I think I've just seen him on like Wednesday Night
Fight system.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
Yeah, he did a co-promotion with that dude,
mill City Boxing, like that'swho his fight was promoted by.
No, don't, like, no, like.
I'm not trying to shit on MillCity Boxing.
You know they do a knownpodcast, but rashidi ellis is

(57:50):
good enough to where he shouldbe on these cards, not on a
fight card co-promoted by apodcast like he's a top 15 at
worst welterweight and the waywelterweight sent.
Now I'd say he's top 10.
He beat the shit out of alexisrocha.
He would beat the shit out ofthe guy that beat Rocha.
What's his name?
The dude Norman knocked out.
I don't think he beats Norman,but I think he'd give Norman a
fucking good fight.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
That's my guy.
Shit Santion.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
Santion Giovanni, santion Rashidi would beat
Santion Rashidi would beat a lotof guys at 147, and they just
don't give him the fight, likehe has nothing To do with this
weekend.
I just brought it up Because Iposted that.
Yeah, I just wanted to get thatout there.
Like give Rashidi Ellis A bigfucking fight, bro.
What promotion is he with?
I don't know, because he's likehe was on PBC Lost to Villa.

(58:37):
They, they didn't give him shitelse after that.
Then he was having to fight inthe fucking team combat league,
which is probably going awaysoon, by the way, because they
don't want to fucking pay people.
They're going to get hit with alawsuit Throwing that out there
too.
Pieces of shit.
Tcl, really, yeah, dude, theyhad this one guy.
They had a uniform designermake $100,000 worth of trunks

(59:01):
for their shit.
He had to take out loans tomake it.
Yeah, yeah, stayed up for daysmaking them.
They didn't fucking pay him,really, yeah.
And they have contracts withother people that they don't
fulfill and they just take themoney and then leave them on red
.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
They're going to get hit with a lawsuit Because we
interviewed someone and theysaid that they pay.
Well, that's why people keepgoing there, because I do notice
some names.
They pay the fighters.
Yeah, good, they pay thefighters.
Well, not to kill your rant,but that's what they so you're
talking about.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
they're not paying the miscellaneous people, the
behind-the-scenes type.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
People who devote their life to boxing, just like
the boxers do, people who took arisk following a career path in
this sport, and you're fuckingthem over.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Yeah, you got to pay, everybody, everybody's got to
pay, but that's, that's also thestuff people don't see hey
worth the fucking trump that's.
That's like what people don'tsee, like some people think
non-boxing fans are like oh, hemade x amount of money on that
fight, but the boxer himself,right and now, with fashion
being involved in boxing, he'sgot to pay.
The shoe guy he's got to pay.
The shirt guy, he's got to pay.

(01:00:07):
But speaking of all that, right, everybody, they have to pay.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
Uh, I'm kind of getting off topic here and yeah,
my bad dude, I totally derailed, this shit.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
No, no it's all good, I don't care, um, it's all
boxing related, so I don't givea fuck, uh.
But speaking of that, right,there's something I want to say
and I kind of want to chop it upafter and blast it out here,
and you could piggyback me onthis.
And we're all affiliated withthe company.
Me and Willie got affiliated byaccident and it's thanks for
playing right, thanks forplaying shirt company.

(01:00:37):
You have the shirt on now.
Ironically enough, we didn'tplan this, but there's a message
that that they do, and it goesin in with what he just said,
like they don't ask for moneyfrom the fighters and they make
shirts from fighters.
And if you could just realquick and I don't want to bore
the listeners or whatever, I dowant to chop this up though
elaborate on that, because Ifeel like that message needs to
get out there.

(01:00:57):
Yeah, for sure that like.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
That's one of the main reasons I started when they
asked me to recruit fightersfor them, because I believe in
what they're doing.
It's easy for me.
I like the product.
They make nice shirts, as youknow, but then the shirts sell
for $40, which is like damn.
I like watching Tiger Johnsonfight.
This shirt looks kind of cool,but do I want to pay $40 for it?
And it's a tough economy.

(01:01:20):
But it costs $15 to make theshirt.
Right, that's how much it costs.
Total to make each shirt, withall the costs included, is about
$15 a shirt 40 minus 15 is 25.
That's the cut that goes to thefighter.
So whenever they sell a fightershirt, thanks for playing.
It makes zero sense on it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
The fighters make the money, so that that's something
to be said Like we love.
The shirts are great and we'renot like sponsored by them.
We don't have any, you knowwhat I mean?
We just they sent us shirtsonce.
We're like oh, we like yourstuff.
They linked us with you and webecame friends now for a year
right, about a year and a halfand here we are.
The shirts are great.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
I got.
One of my favorite shirts is aNaya Inouye shirt.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
I have from them.
My tank hoodie is really nice.
Yeah, the tank hoodie.
The fighters get the money,though.
The fighters that they sign forthe fights, they get the money.
And that's something to be said, because boxing, the business
of boxing, is a dirty game, dude, and I just wanted to get that
out there for anyone listening.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
Even that, collection they're letting me come out
with with the retro fighters.
We're going to sell them for$45,.
But the fighters I don't wantto spoil it because I'm excited
to announce it, but I want it tobe a surprise Because it's
going to be a whole thing,throwback fighters that only
real fans would know and we'regoing to sell those for $45.
Fighter gets $25.
That way we can at least make$5 a profit on the shirt.

(01:02:45):
That way we can keep doing thisto promote the fighters now.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
And not only that, though the shirts are awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
That's great for the fucking retro, the old fighters.
They probably need the moneytoo.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
Yeah, and I only have one fighter confirmed right now
, but it's sick, sick, he'lltell you, sick.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
I'll tell you all fair but Sick.
Sly says thanks for playing,sent me a free shirt.
That's why I promote themanywhere I go Good quality.
I buy their stuff all the timeFor real.
You know what their shirtsremind me of and you see a lot
of it now on Instagram.
Like everybody makes shirts, sothat's what makes Thanks for
Playing.
Different is that the fightersget the money.
They don't make money on them.
The owner correct me if I'mwrong.

(01:03:24):
Punch is just a boxing fan thatwanted to do this.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
Yeah, he has a whole other apparel company that he
makes his money off of.
He loves boxing and he wantedto make cool stuff for boxers.
He eventually wants to makemoney off of Thanks for Playing
but in all honesty it's notprofitable right now.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
Yeah, and the fighters get the money from the
shirts so they could kind ofpush the shirts themselves too
to make money.
So it's kind of a cool conceptand, as actual nerd fight fans,
it's awesome.
It's awesome to see I go a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
These shirts is like good fellas.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
Willie.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
I just messaged you a picture of the first throwback
shirt that we're doing.
Yeah, suspense, if you made itthis far, get willie's reaction.
I gotta make one more drink andstand up, because my
hemorrhoids do your thing um,and then we'll, we'll, we'll, uh
, keep it pushing um, and thenwe'll try to.
I don't know what time we're atnow, but yo, oh, we're at an
hour.
We're at an hour.
Fuck it yo.
But yeah, talk to Willie realquick.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
I was literally about to watch his documentary.
I was watching all the back.
Nah, I'm not, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
Hey, sly, because you're commenting, I'm going to
send you a picture of the shirt.
Will, but you can't fuckingtell anybody.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
Damn bro.
I wanted to say something, butit's just like that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
It's so hard for me to sit on this because I'm so
excited.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
I wish I never even knew.
I should have just waited.

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
For that I won't tell you the other guys that were
close.
We're going to make a samplefor him and that's when he's
going to decide whether or nothe so he could.
That's at a minute or an hour,and five minutes.
Yeah, I accidentally said it.
I let the goddamn cat out thebag.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
Yeah, this guy.
Nah, that's elite, bro,congratulations.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
I'm going to get a motherfucker killed, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
Congratulations though.
Thanks, bro, CongratulationsI'm going to get a motherfucker
killed, bro Yo.

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
Congratulations though.
Oh thanks, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
Yeah, the other fighters we got, that I'm
talking to, I'm really excitedabout too, they're not as
popular as him, but if you're areal boxing fan, there's zero
chance you don't know who theyare.
We talking about skill.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
What that's, james Damn, I almost said it too,
that's fine, so legendary, solegendary that a specific move
in boxing is accredited to him.
You know they'll say like ohwell, this guy actually has it
better.
But then when that guy who theysay has it better tells you

(01:06:02):
he's like well, I learned minefrom him and just adapted it, I
got a key I got a question fory'all I'm back, by the way I got
a question for y'all who's?

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
back who who's who's signature punch was the suzy q
oh, I don't know that one.

Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
That's a good trivia question.
I've never I've it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
I wanted to come with a list because I've been
watching these documentaries I'mso happy for you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Rocky, oh Rocky, really.

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
Marciano or Graziano.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
I think now I'm confused.
Wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
Rocky Balboa?
No, so is he the Marciano.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
Yes, he's the Marciano.
Yes, he's the Ad Marciano.
Yeah, he's that.
Look.
Sly even knew he looked.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
Oh, okay, he's Marciano Right there.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
Yeah, I never knew that one, yeah okay, really,
yeah, yo, speaking of RockyMarciano, bro, it's a fake jab
over here on the right.
Okay, suzy Q, if I get back intraining.
I got to teach the kids that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
What do you mean if?

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
I haven't been.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
You mean when?

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
Yeah, when Fat ass.
Yeah, I am getting fat bro.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Nah, all right, we're already an hour in my ass is
fucking tender.
Let's fucking try to keep itmoving.
This is fucking tender.
Let's fucking try to keep itmoving.
This is what happens.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
You want to talk about the Curiel fight?

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
Because that fight was after the I don't know who
that dude was.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
He fought.
I barely know Curiel.
I just know him from the Rochafight.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
Whose nickname is the Browns Bomber?
Oh, Joe Lewis Browns Bomber.
No, he's the.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
Brown Bomber.
Browns Bomber is wilder, he'sthe brown bomber.
Brown bomber Brown is wilder,joe Louis.
That's my favorite old schoolfighter.
Come on, Willie All right.
Stay on track asshole my bad,my bad.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
I'm watching my documentary tomorrow.
Yeah, good, good that works.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
Yo, that's what like in the winter, that's like when
it's like snowing or whatever,and there's nothing throw on.
There's a lot of cool YouTubecontent creators for
documentaries.
That's one really cool thingabout the old heads that are
good with cameras and they knowthey have personal stories.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
I didn't know.
He died in a fucking planecrash, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
Joe Louis' son is a really good golfer too.
That's sick.

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
I just found a sick YouTube channel where he tells
whatever happened to collegefootball player videos.
I've been crushing those lately, just like at the gym.
I just listened.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
Like whatever happened to toby gerhardt, like
whatever happened to go to thoseguys you'd never like another
one like vince young.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
Remember him oh yeah, yo sunny listen fucking oh,
sunny listen story is nuts allright, hold on.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
We got to talk about this Curiel fella, my bad.
So yeah, same thing, same thing.
The fight was kind of boringtoo, and then it wasn't so good
for him.

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
I didn't think it was boring.
I just thought it was just twoHispanic guys fucking it was a
fun Hispanic fight.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
You know what made it boring to me?
It was the announcing.
They were announcing, they werelike, oh, you know this,
they're not heating it up yetand I'm like, oh yeah, they kind
of had me duped.
I'm like they're not, they'renot heating it up yet and then
all of a sudden, boom ko, andthat's got power.
Man, yeah and uh, I know whereyou're gonna go with this and I
want you to take it away.
Punchlines, because we talkedabout it.
You have a little conspiracytheory of what went on after

(01:09:19):
that fight with who certain callouts.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
I don't have a conspiracy theory.
It might be a theory, it couldbe wrong, but I have fucking
proof.
Now, boy, everybody who said Iwas wrong.
But after that, when, whenOscar called out he's like we
want rollies for curio, yeah, Iwas like that doesn't make any
sense, that's not going tohappen.
Pbc is not gonna do a crosspromotion with golden boy to

(01:09:44):
fight fucking curiel becausethat fight doesn't isn't gonna
sell.
And then oscar ryan's likegoing after oscar crashing out
posting his fishnet pictures,saying fuck, golden boy
promotion and all that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
I thought that was that was cool.
I like what, yeah, butimmediately I'm like this is
fake.

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
I was like right, ryan and roly are for sure
rematching them.
And then I reached out tosomebody and they're like oh
yeah, like I know the date, Iknow everything yeah, and I'll
send the picture.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
So.
So you're saying that's gonnahappen.
That's what I was told.

Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
Garcia, ryan garcia versus roly too yeah, by
somebody very close to one ofthem.
Okay, very close to one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
Okay, very close to one of them.
Awesome, awesome to hear.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
I'm here for that and I'm backing my guy, roland
After that picture, that fishnetpicture, then you're going to
see Berlinga posted.

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
Yeah, I was wrong about Devin and TO I was
clinging to that one.
I was like I don't believe it,but then Devin's fight got
announced today.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
Yeah, demond's fighting Brian.
Yeah, we hate on Webby, we hateon.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
Bill.
But that motherfucker, don'tduck smoke bro.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
He is bugged the fuck out though.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
Wait wait, wait, wait , wait wait.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
Yeah, we're putting a cart in front of the horse
right now.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
Everybody wait, everybody wait.
Stay on Curio, yeah, so what isnext for Curio?
Then you think Either.
Rocha rem rematch, because thatshit was a draw and they're
both on golden boy.
Rocha just won recently too.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
So yeah, yeah, so that?
or the guy who beat griffin, whofought right before him, yeah
yeah, I'm backing that guyrodriguez yeah, I forget his
name I would like one of them tofight rashidi, like I said, but
I think I think Curiel is goingto fight Roach again.
And the only reason Oscarcalled out Rollies was to throw
off Sniff for the Ryan rematch.
But it's also like because he'shad back and forth with Rollies

(01:11:31):
all the time, so Rollies isprobably going to say some shit.
It's just to get Curiel like.
The same way.
Willie called it out earlierthat Jake Paul is smart for
calling these names out.
That's called it out earlierthat jake paul is smart for
calling these names out.
That's all oscar's doing.
He's getting people to talkabout curiel.
Fight roly.
That's all he's doing.
He's promoting this guy?

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
do you think oscar's smart enough to know that, like
jake paul?

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
clearly yes, yeah, he is yeah, dude, because I he's
been in this game a long time.
Yeah, true, he's been promotinga long time, like I feel like
he's smart enough true, I don'tknow.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
I just I feel like sometimes I don't know.
What does bernard hopkins dofor oscar?
Does anyone know?
Talk shit, that's about it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
Okay, fat, just talk shit to people.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
Tries to fight in bathrooms yeah, they probably
fight each other still all right, we're, we're gonna keep it
rolling.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
Now I'm gonna try and speed things up a little bit,
because when it goes over anhour it just gets a little
weirder and people don't reallylisten.
That besides this dude slot,you know sly tendencies, bro,
you, you are, yo shout out toy'all sly you are.
You haven't even gotten to thetevin fight, bro.
I know I know that was the mainone.
That was why I watched thisJake Paul card.
But shout out to Sly,underscore tendencies 87.

(01:12:45):
Dude has been with us from theget-go.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
His name is Jesse.
I don't know if he wants thatout there, but his name is Jesse
.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
All right, well, jesse Sly, jesse, dm me your
address and stuff and I'm goingto send you some Spar in merch
and I'm a man of my word withthat.
I send it all over the place.
But uh, sly, for real, sendthat in.
Thanks for listening andlasting this long floyd
showfield versus tevin farmer.

(01:13:12):
Someone who did not last thatlong, let's get into it, man,
this one hurt my soul I wasn'texpecting that, bro, for real.

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
That boy Floyd knocked his damn eye straight,
damn.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
Come on man.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
Come on, leave him alone.

Speaker 3 (01:13:29):
That's not as bad as what Tank said after the fight.
What'd he say?
He's like I ain't got thattwitchy shit Tevin got.
I'll beat Buddy's ass.
It's like damn dude.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
Yo, real quick.
This guy, sly, said my name isherb, beaver smells, so her
beaver smells.
That's a good one, all right.
What does it smell like, slyanyway?
Um, floyd schofields versustevin farmer.
I fucking love tevin farmer man.
There's a pay to fight.
I've always been a fan of his,but the pay to fight's really,

(01:14:00):
really opened my eyes.
I didn't think this was goingto happen.
Only because I didn't think thesecond Zepeda fight, tevin
Farmer was going to show up likehe did At his age, his boxing
age, his wear and tear.
He's a weathered dude.
I didn't think a second timeversus Zepeda, after performing
so good the first time, he wouldbe able to show up again, and

(01:14:22):
he did and I should have putthat into my calculations.

Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
Like I don't think he could show up now to this one
his last three fights had been36 rounds of competitive
fighting with two guys that inmost people's rankings are top
five in the weight class,because he fought moritaya
before.
Yeah, yeah, moritaya is anotherone and a lot.
I thought farmer won that fight.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
when I watched and he has been in tough decisions too
I mean I I disagreed with himin as a pay to fight.
The first one, specifically,was more close.
The second one, I thoughtfarmer did lose, uh, pretty
significantly, but he still wasdogging it out.
The dude came, came out andsaid I have Tourette's and he
was like, ah, everyone's askingme why I do this weird shit with

(01:15:07):
my eyes and shit, I haveTourette's and I like that, like
dude, good for you.
He should have did it years agobecause we've been talking
about it a while, like what thefuck's wrong with him.
I think when he fought Ortiz Iwas like what's?

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
He still got a shorty though.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Yeah, yeah, joey, she's a supporter, she's a
fucking supporter, and she's areal one, she's a real one.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
Picked up his chin when he was down.
Who's your chin up?

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
This show and this segment is not about Tevin
Farmer and we have to givecredit where credit's due,
because he proved the boxingworld wrong.
Kid Austin has arrived andducking Shakur the way he did
distill up in the air we don'tknow if he was actually sick or
what happened Shakur called it.
He said he's not going to fightme.

(01:15:56):
He got his get back and he wasvery emotional in the ring after
he was teared up and it wasgood to see, no matter how
annoying his dad is.
Props to you, kid Austin.

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
You are now man, austin, you are adult austin,
whatever you want to fuckingcall yourself yeah, it's good
the fact that we have like,because before that it was he
was getting, you know, socialmedia hype and that's why people
wanted to see him in these topfights, but he hadn't but like
this fight, proving that he doesdeserve to be up there.
It's good, bro, we need that.
We need young popular fighterswho are good and I like I'm glad

(01:16:27):
we have that and I'm a hater ofthe dude because of his dad.
Yeah, and when the motherfuckerwill never just let his son do
an interview, every time he's onhis always like right here loud
loud.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
Yeah, like, like he's like another bill, like you
know yeah, literally yeah, butit's almost.

Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
it's common to like Sean Porter.
A lot of people usually hate onSean because of Kenny, even
though Kenny was nowhere near asbad as Floyd Spofield's dad.
But Sean, good fighter, goodman, good dude.
And I think I feel the same wayabout Kid bro, because you hear
him talk, he's a nice guy.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
Well-spoken, genuine dude.
And bro, he's fucking jackedthat dude yeah, he is that
dude's hard.

Speaker 3 (01:17:09):
Oscar wasn't lying when he said he's like one of
the hardest working dudes in thesport.
He's always.
All his videos are just of himin the gym.
It's not him like at the beachor with his shit.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
It's him in the gym.

Speaker 3 (01:17:19):
He's a jersey kid too technically, so he's a ripped
hell yeah uh and I felt bad forhim because he was, like,
legitimately depressed afterthat shakur fight.
You know it's hard to blame him.
Like bro you, you've missed outon the opportunity of a
lifetime and I was hating.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
I still don't think he got sick.
I think his team came behindhim and was like hey man, uh, we
, we can't have let this fighthappen right now, in this point
in your career.
And if you look at it, it kindof worked out because let this
fight happen right now, at thispoint in your career.
And if you look at it, it kindof worked out Because now this
fight happened and he justcatapulted his stardom.

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
I think that's why they took this fight, because
Tevin is just that same style.

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
And I knew Floyd had a chance versus Tevin.
I just didn't think in thefirst fucking round.

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
No, In a minute and 18 seconds, wasn't it?

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
look, I'm fucking double dabbing a right just like
he hurt him bad bro.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
He hit that like backhand hook and like it was a
blind spot and I'm not talkingabout tevin's eyes, but it was
like a block.
I hit him in a blind spot andI'm like holy shit, it was like
a weird angled backhand.
I can't even fucking explain ityo, I was yo sly.

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
I was just about to say that shit, his fucking voice
is soft as hell.
He's like yo floyd's dad, he'swhat do you say?
He sound like kind of zesty ashell.
That's what he said.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
He said floyd's dad is another one of these
zesty-ass Puff Daddy wannabesall up in the rap video.
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
And he's like.
Another reason that peopledon't like him so much is
because he called out peoplelike Abdullah Mason.
He's like yeah, we want theAbdullah Mason fight and he's
like but we want two and a halfmillion for it.
It's like bro, get the fuck outof here.
That's like pay-per-view mainevent money.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
That's Jake Paul money Jake.

Speaker 3 (01:19:07):
Paul's money.
Get the fuck out of here withthat.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
No, but it's great that he's so young and explosive
and being that young andwinning the way he did.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
he needed that mental boost and he's technical.
Yeah, and you saw the rawemotion.
He came off a tough fight wherehe got sparked a few times the
fight before the Shakurannouncement.
I remember watching that likedamn, this dude's getting
sparked up in the back half ofthe fight and then the Shakur
fight gets announced and I'mlike, oh man, shakur is wrong
for him right now at this pointin his career.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
Yeah, I was Shakur sexual.
I shakur is wrong for everybody, but that's just me but, but
specifically, style wise shakur.

Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
Really, really, when you, when you're like a boxer
puncher versus another box likeshakur is an expert boxer style
wise, he's gonna, he's gonnamake you look stupid.
You know what I'm saying andwhich is why there's a pay to
fight is intriguing, becauseZepeda's style is fucking 100
punches around.
Yeah, floyd's Floyd Schofieldstyle is more of a cliche boxing

(01:20:13):
style.
Really good at it, athletic,strong power in both hands.
I think Shakur at this point inFloyd's career would have
picked him apart.

Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
So who do you want to see him fight next?
Then that's a good.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
So I think, honestly, think I don't, I don't honestly
, I don't, it's tough, it'stough.
Uh, I want him to get a beltshot.
I think the way tevin farmerperformed verse uh, what's his
face?
Zerto, not zerto.
Um.
The way tevin farmer performedverse uh, what's his name?
The, the guy Shakur's fighting,zepeda, zepeda.

(01:20:47):
I'm sorry, all these fucking Zs, zepeda.
The way he performed versusZepeda, this Tevin, you know
every pundit and every guy thatwatches fucking boxing was I put
almost $300 on Farmer.
Everybody was backing Farmer inthis fight.
Based off what we know aboutFloyd.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
He can fight.
He might get that AbdullahMason fight.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
He might get that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
He might get that Because that belt is vacant.

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
I don't think they're going to Promotion wise.

Speaker 3 (01:21:17):
Yeah, I think Abdullah is going to fight
Noakes, bro, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
Somebody got to get the title right.

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
Yeah, well, that's going to be for the title,
because they're the top tworanked guys in that weight class
.

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
I don't know, though, what do you think is next,
honestly, if Shakur dismantlesZepeda or not Zepeda.
If Shakur dismantles Zepeda,right Right, just his typical
outboxes him, works him.
I'm not saying knock him out,but just destroys him, right
Right.
I'm okay with Floyd now gettingthe Shakur going after Shakur,

(01:21:51):
and I'm sure Shakur is okay withit too, and Turkey said he has,
like, he made that tweet.

Speaker 3 (01:21:56):
He's like oh, if Berlanga and Zepeda win, it's
going to derail our plansbecause we have big plans for
Shiraz and Shakur plans forShiraz and Shakur.
So I don't know how big hisplans are for Shakur.
I don't know if Floyd I meanobviously he had, he wanted that
fight to happen anyway becausehe scheduled it for that big
card in February but I don'tknow if that's still Turkey's
plan for him.
I still like a guy he wassupposed to fight last year.

(01:22:19):
I would like to see him fightLucas body to do that.
Knocked out Ashton Sylve.
Yeah, fight Lucas body to dothat knocked out Ashton, sylve,
yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
Or here's another one .
Say, say, shakur beats Zepeda,right, it goes 12 and he just
destroys him, right.
I'm okay with Zepeda versusSchofield and then a Shakur
fight.

Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
I think they want Zepeda to fight Andy Cruz or or
I saw that I forgot about AndyCruz or him.
It's a good yeah, there's a lotof guys on that DAZN side.
He could fight.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
You know what?
Why Turkey is on Shiraz.
Nobody want to see him.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
No, bro, shiraz, I don't think Shiraz, nobody want
to see him.

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
He's not ruining nobody's pants, I think.

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
Turkey's.
The fact that Turkey's tryingso hard to promote that guy and
force him on us, especiallyafter how that whole Adamas
thing went down.
He's actually backfiring.
He's doing a disservice toShiraz.
He's making him more popular,but he's making him less likable
at the same time.

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
It feels like Nobody want to see him.

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
Sly says that Floyd earned WBA mandatory last night
with the win WBA who's W the winWBA who's?

Speaker 3 (01:23:28):
WBA, that's Tank.

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
That's Tank.
Uh-oh, oh shit.

Speaker 3 (01:23:31):
Oh shit, he ain't getting that fight.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
They're not going to do it Like PBC is not going to
do a crossover for Tank.
Nah, you do it on their terms,and I don't think Schofield's
big enough to get Tank.
I think Tank's days arenumbered, not because he's not
skilled, just he's going to makea lot of money and he's next
through three fights and be likeI'm out of here.
He's done Ben had a foot out thedoor.

(01:23:53):
Yeah, he's pretty much.
I think he's going to show upin this.
We'll preview that when itcomes, we should go back to
Diamante's for that too.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
Actually, we should go back to Diamante's for that
too, actually Back there.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
Yeah, I want to talk about that.

Speaker 3 (01:24:06):
Never mind, we don't have time, what we have time
Remember when I told you thatfighter got pulled out of a
certain fighter's training campfor beating the shit out of him.
Oh yeah, yeah he might be onthat Tank Roach card now anyway,
which is good.

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
But when I found, yeah, just hold that thought,
because I'm going to get there,I have a little section rumor
reveal around.

Speaker 3 (01:24:32):
Barrios.
Ah shit, there's a reason Ididn't say names bro.

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
We can edit that out.
We got five of us in this 124.

Speaker 3 (01:24:44):
Just remember that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
105 and 124.
I that 105, yeah, I got you Igot you my man, my man that's
tequila is fucking good man.
Shout out to el jaguar tequila,whatever the fuck, alma del
jaguar bro, I got fucked up lastnight, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
I woke up feeling like all right, let's stick to
boxing.

Speaker 2 (01:24:59):
We could talk about our stupid lives later.
Um, yeah, that that's really it.
Hey, floyd Schofield, now Sky'sthe limit Props to you.
You owe me $300.
That being said, there was noother cards going on.
We don't got really a lot ofpreviews Next week's show.
We have a shitload of previews,but we do have some drama and

(01:25:19):
some announcements.
I have one last fight to goover.

Speaker 3 (01:25:22):
That's okay.
Yeah, okay, because I have onelast fight to go over.
That's okay.
Yeah, okay, because another guyfought this weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
I could do this all day.
My hemorrhoid already popped,so I'm good.

Speaker 3 (01:25:30):
God, dude, what, how do you do this, willie?

Speaker 1 (01:25:34):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:25:35):
Bro, but, another fighter fought this weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
I'm out Lost and retired, coming from the most
vulgar fucking wild animal.
What are you talking about?
Oh, are you talking about whowe were both shocked was
fighting?

Speaker 3 (01:25:54):
Yeah, dude, when I messaged you I was like this
guy's fighting yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
I actually, when I was typing up some notes for
this, I was like holy shit, hegot his ass beat and retired
John Pascal bro.
John Pascal is finally done.
It's gene pascal he.
He was a light heavyweight,right, or was he a middle.
I think it was at cruiserweightthis weekend, okay.
Okay, I think he was lightheavy and then went to cruiser,

(01:26:17):
was known for his power canadianfighter we.
He just kind of tested positivefor every steroid in the book
and just fell off the face ofthe earth.

Speaker 3 (01:26:26):
Yeah, who was he supposed to fight when he tested
for all that shit?
It was Badou Jack.
It was the rematch.
Yep, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
And I think before that he beat someone so bad,
wasn't it Brown?
Yeah, brown, you're right, myguy.
I thought Brown was going to beso good bro.
Yeah, me too, me too.
But you know, ish happens.
Yo, we have six viewers on theYouTube Blowing up.
That's the most we've ever had.
Jake Ginsburg said happy face,happy face, cry, laugh, cry,

(01:26:55):
laugh.
This guy's sly.
Oh, it was last night.
That's weird.
Oh it was.
It was probably in a weirdplace.
But yeah, it's probably in aweird place.
But yeah, gene Pascal retired.
We already thought he wasretired.
So not much to say there.
We have time.
You watch the fight, fuck, no,all right.
So not much to say there.
He was good, he was powerful,but it turns out he was on the
juice.
Speaking of juice, let's getinto the news and notes and try

(01:27:18):
to wrap this up, because my assis bleeding.
You farting over there?
I think nobody.
I think no, no, no.
This is the roid, bro, it'sthis.
It's lloyd the hemorrhoid man.
Gross, ah, shut up.
Um.
Haney versus norman jr wasannounced.
Kind of broke the internetafter the floyd schofield devin

(01:27:39):
farmer internet breaking itselfand the UFC internet breaking
Haney versus Norman jr.
Listen, we kind of alluded toit earlier.
Uh, I, I'm a Devin Haney kindof hater because he's like
annoying me now and obviouslyI'm a Tio sexual, so he's anti
Tiafimo, I'm pro Tiafimo, so ofcourse I'm going to naturally

(01:28:00):
hate Devin Haney.
I have to give Haney his creditand I don't want to jump the
gun.
Just because something'sannounced in boxing and you all
can attest to this doesn't meanit's going to happen.
It's like a 50-50 chance stillto me.
If this fight actually happensand speaking of internet
breaking, he goes on and fightsBrian Norman Jr.
Win or lose.

(01:28:20):
Haney's stock rises.
It'll be his first real fightat 147.
Welterweight, I can't takeanything away from him or Bill,
I gotta give them all theirprops Big if this fight happens.
It's not set in stone yet.
I don't know why this fightwill happen and there's a lot of
like you wouldn't want to tuneup at 147?
.

Speaker 1 (01:28:40):
Devin don't even want to take a punch right now.
He's still seeing ghosts.
I don't think he should befighting this fight.
You see what happened to thelast person at four.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
And there's another point I want to make.

Speaker 1 (01:28:52):
You see what Brian did to the last fighter.
When he said next Friday, hesaid what.
You see what happened to thesecurity guard.

Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
You know what happened to the last security
guard.
I want to.
I want to make a point too,like speaking of dads, though.
Like did you see?
Uh, what was it?
The boxing?
Is it what?

Speaker 3 (01:29:13):
was that, oh, when brian, norman senior and bill
were going at it on the boxingvoice you know, bill got checked
.

Speaker 2 (01:29:18):
The boxing voice.
Shout out to them.
It's like the first ever viralboxing podcast.
I disagree with a lot of shitthey say, but shout out to them.
I think they're out of New Yorktoo, or used to be.
Yeah, they're in Vegas now.
Okay, oh, they made it.
God damn it.
That's our goal, guys, us three.
Fuck, we're going to have athreesome in Vegas.
In regards to the podcast, youpervert Willie Brian Norman Jr's

(01:29:43):
dad I don't know his name.
It got a little silent there.

Speaker 3 (01:29:45):
Well, if Brian Norman Jr.

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
Is named Brian.

Speaker 1 (01:29:51):
Norman Jr.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
What's his dad's name ?
Brian?

Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
Norman.

Speaker 2 (01:29:55):
Brian Norman Sr Sunned.

Speaker 3 (01:30:00):
good old Bill Haney, we're gonna fucking step over
you, and then I'm gonna tell himto go to your corner and tell
you you ain't shit that was fire, and you could see in Haney's.

Speaker 2 (01:30:11):
You could see in Haney's Bill Haney's face a
little bit.
He's like he shut the fuck upfor a second.

Speaker 3 (01:30:17):
finally, silence.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
Silence dude he's like oh shit, I didn't know the
young boy from Georgia was aboutthat life for me, yeah, like
good for him.

Speaker 2 (01:30:27):
I mean, you know he kind of needed that and I just
hope this fight does happen andprops to Bill for letting his
son fight this fight.

Speaker 1 (01:30:34):
I think he probably scared the shit out of him after
that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:37):
Yeah, no, for real.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
Yeah, I think.
So I really don't think thisfight's going to happen, though
I don't think this fight's goingto happen, though.
I don't think the Haney's are.
Devin doesn't even want to takea punch right now.
I don't think the Haney's are.
After what Ryan Garcia did toHaney, I still don't think
they're ready for at 147,something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:53):
Why'd you get canceled this week?
And then they announced Devinversus TO again.

Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
I'm going to still cling to it.
I'm going to fucking lose it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:01):
I.
I hope that fight happens.
I'm ready.
Tio is definitely cooking upsomething.
He's coming up with somethingsoon.
I might be in those DMs.
You know, might be in them DMsa little bit.
Let's send him some feet pics,but.

Speaker 1 (01:31:19):
Past my fucking bedtime.
Yeah, all right, we'll keep itmoving.

Speaker 2 (01:31:25):
So Brian Norman Jr's dad, brian Sr, fucking sons the
shit out of Bill Haney, whichwas good to see Speaking of
Tiafimo.
He was just in camp with theVargas brothers and a special
someone that we're going tofight preview soon Manny
Pacquiao.
You may have heard of him.
You may not have heard of him.
Did you guys see that?

Speaker 1 (01:31:45):
I've seen that there's a whole bunch of them it
was like they was running onmountains and shit.

Speaker 3 (01:31:49):
Yeah, the Vargas's were out there and everything
yeah, there was a few.

Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
I think Brandon Lee might have been out there.
I think I saw Brandon Lee.
I could be wrong, it might havejust been another Asian, but uh
, I don't know.
I thought I thought I saw Lee,but that was cool to see, you
know.
And props to Pacquiao.
Pacquiao looks kind of in shape.
He's doing his thing.

Speaker 3 (01:32:09):
Yeah, you don't look the same though, bro.
He's noticeably old.

Speaker 2 (01:32:14):
Yeah, and again, I don't want to name drop.
I think Pacquiao, though, hassome info or intel on what's
going on in his opponent's lifeor camp.
Maybe, and you know.

Speaker 3 (01:32:32):
Well, okay, so the dude's dead, we're going for it.
Yeah, I don't care, bro, I loveMario.
Everybody knows that we'regoing for it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:44):
I wish.

Speaker 3 (01:32:44):
Big Name Fighter to really give me a break.

Speaker 2 (01:32:46):
Right, we have some real, real fucking news here.

Speaker 3 (01:32:51):
I work for Thanks for playing.
I work for Adams.
I got this kid signed to bothof them, so I wouldn't say he's
my client, because that's not acorrect term, but essentially,
if I recruit you to twocompanies, I work for you.
So this is the way I view it.
Kid's only 19, 18-time amateurchampion southpaw, lives in

(01:33:13):
Vegas, so it's easy to get himto another gym in Vegas, gets
brought in to spar with him Withwho?
He's?
With Mario, and he was supposedto fight on the Barrios card as
well.
He was supposed to be in theearly premiums of that and we
have his shirt done andeverything.
So I message his dad, because Ideal with his dad, I don't deal
with him.
But I was like, hey, uh, I gotthe shirt, I'm ready to post it,

(01:33:34):
and we always post the pictureof the fight poster that they're
fighting on so you can like,kind of like promote their fight
as well.
And I just messaged his dad.
I was like, hey, justconfirming before I post this,
you guys, you guys are on the19th right, you're on the
Pacquiao card.

Speaker 2 (01:33:50):
Dad calls me immediately Before you go there.
Before you go there, cause Idon't want to like let this
podcast dismantle anything orbusiness transactions or
whatever.
It's okay to state this I don't.
I.

Speaker 3 (01:34:02):
I don't, I don't, I don't know, cause it's not in
the public knowledge yet.
Why, ask his dad?
I was like if you want me toput this news out there, with
the pages that I'm cool with,he's like yeah, do it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:11):
Okay, so it's on him.
That's all.
That's what I meant.
So then it's on, it's on him.

Speaker 3 (01:34:19):
Okay, and according into an elevator with him
because he was in la for thatjake paul fight.
He's like sean gibbons,pacquiao's manager, pitbull
cruises manager.
They were in an elevatortogether and he brought it up to
him.
All right, drop it.
Because because dude was tuninghim up in sparring and he's way
smaller, he fights atlightweight.
What's his name?
What's the guy?
And he was.
The rumor is he was tuning himup in sparring and then they

(01:34:42):
kicked him out of camp and thena manager called his dad the
next day and he's like by theway, we're not, we're not gonna
have you on the card anymoreeither.
So he got taken off the card.
That's fucked up, bro.
He's only 19 years old, bro.
That's how they get paid and,yeah, that's how you get their
name known because, like I know,not everybody shows up for the
early prelim, especially invegas.

(01:35:03):
They wait till like the fuckingmain event.
But still, there's gonna be.
There's gonna be more people inan empty where's that fight
t-mobile arena.
Then there would be at hislittle pro box cards or these
little mvp orlando side cardsthat he does on fridays.

Speaker 2 (01:35:18):
So according to his dad.
Let me get this straight.
According to his dad, theykicked him out of camp because
he was messing up mario barriosin sparring.
Yes, according to the dad yes,oh my goodness that is insane
yeah, so so I, I was team barry.
I'm not betting wise.
I was going all in on barrios.

(01:35:38):
Should I change my bet, willie?
What do you?

Speaker 1 (01:35:41):
think I was going with manny.
Anyway, it was sparring issparring first of all?

Speaker 3 (01:35:46):
Yeah yeah, and it was a few weeks ago apparently.
It wasn't like this week.
It apparently was when Mariowas still big, bigger, Kicked
out of camp.
Yeah, but that thing happensall the time, bro.
I asked other people about itand they're like, yeah, somebody
beat the shit out of Tankbefore one of his, before the
Frank Martin fight, so theykicked him out.

Speaker 2 (01:36:08):
What's his name too?
The guy that, like, killed hiswhole family, their stories and
this kind of Edwin.

Speaker 3 (01:36:12):
Valero, yeah, beat the shit out of Oscar, who was
in camp for Manny.

Speaker 2 (01:36:16):
Yeah For Manny Pacquiao, Edwin Valero.

Speaker 1 (01:36:21):
One of my Wait.
They kick him out and then hekilled his family.

Speaker 3 (01:36:23):
What Well, he was like a world champion and he
couldn't get fights in Americabecause of some criminal shit or
his visa or something, so hecould only fight in like Mexico
and everything, but he was 27-0with 27 knockouts or something
like that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
And very feared amongst everyone.
And this is like boxing'sgolden era when Pacquiao really
started to get not golden era,but when Pacquiao really started
to rise and everybody fearedhim like everybody.
There was like horror storiesabout him in sparring.
And not to cut you off, I'msorry, I'm just a big Edwin
Valerio guy.
Yeah, he's dope until he endedup killing his wife and himself.
Yeah, and like he went likecrazy against the government of

(01:36:59):
his country.
It was nuts.
But so he was training withOscar de la Hoya, he was one of
his rotation in his rotation insparring and rumor has it, but
kind of confirmed he was likeblacking up Oscar de la Hoya's
eyes and like, yeah, may or maynot have broke his nose or some
shit.
And like dude, edwin said he'slike, yeah, I would go to that
camp hung over, I would be therelike a no sleep and so sleep.

(01:37:23):
And so, uh, uh, sly just saidvalero threatened a ref during a
fight.
Dude, was insane, I'd beterrified if that guy's paying
me and he had like a.
He had that like latino mullet.
Love that guy, not love what hedoes.
But so, yeah, you're againalluding people get kicked out
of camps all the time.
You're absolutely right and uh,that that's known.
But at that weight and you'refacing manny pacquiao the

(01:37:43):
prestige, whatever you're kind,you should be a favorite verse,
pacquiao.

Speaker 3 (01:37:49):
And also to like I'm not.
Like, don't take what I'msaying as gospel.
I've heard one side of thestory from the kid's dad, so
there's obviously going to be anatural bias still there.
So I don't know what happened,because I wasn't there and so
far I haven't talked to anyoneelse about it.
I'm just repeating what I wastold.

Speaker 2 (01:38:08):
And based off our last segment, we know these dads
get a little crazy about theirkids in boxing Of course, bro,
it's your child in a physicalcombative event you know like,
of course.
But damn, that's crazy.
Changes, a lot of bettingperspectives and again it's not
set in stone.
It's just what people say andthere may or may not be some

(01:38:31):
truth to it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:32):
That's a young man's life, man Not playing around
with his livelihood already.

Speaker 2 (01:38:37):
Yeah, true, and you know what Shame on them.

Speaker 3 (01:38:42):
It's true, it is true , because I don't want to
badmouth Mario, because I likeMario and I've known that.

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
Yeah, you've told me, you're a big Barrios fan.

Speaker 3 (01:38:50):
So it's not like I'm happy to share this news.
I'm upset either way.

Speaker 1 (01:38:54):
Alright, the camp part.
Okay, that shit happens, butyou're going to take them off
the fight?
Yeah, that's crazy.
How would they even havecontrol of that?

Speaker 2 (01:39:02):
That?
How would they even havecontrol of that?
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:39:04):
We need to get Barrios on the show, because the
manager whose name was droppedis pretty influential in the
sport.
The manager who told him theywere taking him off the card.

Speaker 2 (01:39:14):
Let's try and hook up Barrios and get him on here.

Speaker 3 (01:39:18):
No, Not now.
He's probably going to hate menow.
So is Bob's team.
I'm friends with Bob's son bobsanto.

Speaker 2 (01:39:26):
So yeah, oh yeah, that was a whatever dude.

Speaker 3 (01:39:29):
Yeah, I hope it don't cost me nothing because I like
those guys, you know, and I I'mnot gonna wish bad on any of
them.
It just, if it's true to dothat to a 19 year old kid, uh
just leaves a bad taste in mymouth.
Bro, he's only got 10 fightsand shit, like if the rumors are
true.

Speaker 2 (01:39:45):
Yes, yeah, these are all rumors.
We are a boxing podcast thatjust we see shit, we hear shit
and we, we I guess I don't wantto say report it.
We're not really likejournalists, but we just speak
on it.
We drink and speak on it.
So here we are, speaking onwhat we heard.
Um going forward.
I am betting on pacquiao,though, but that's about.

(01:40:06):
I think that's all I got.
We're going to end the showwith that.
Next week we will be back.
July heats up.
There's a bunch of fights inJuly.
We are coming to the end ofJune.
We have went almost about twohours now.
An hour and 40 minutes.
My bad dude, I talk too much.
No, it's cool because I get toyap in too minutes good, my bad

(01:40:26):
dude, I talk too much.

Speaker 1 (01:40:27):
No, it's cool because I I get to yap in two willie's
like yo.
We started like a decent timeseven o'clock, yeah, seven,
that's why we started.

Speaker 2 (01:40:30):
Seven really was like yo get me the f out of here.
Uh sly says, say allegedlyallegedly.

Speaker 3 (01:40:38):
That's pretty much what I was saying anyway, rumors
, it's all hearsay.

Speaker 2 (01:40:42):
Yeah, you know what?
Sly, you're annoying me.
You get one shirt.
Um, I'm just kidding, I'm justkidding, I'm just kidding, uh.
That being said, hey, follow uson everything.
Sly, tell your friends tofollow us, since you see you've
made it this long, yourhemorrhoids probably as big as
mine right now.
Uh, we're gonna keep it moving.
We will see you all next week.

(01:41:02):
Follow punchlines, the funniestman on Instagram.

Speaker 3 (01:41:06):
Thank you, brother.

Speaker 2 (01:41:07):
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What is your fucking?

Speaker 1 (01:41:10):
Divine Divinetv, divinetv.

Speaker 2 (01:41:13):
But more importantly, Follow the Spar.
In, follow the Spar In, becausethis is where we all come
together and talk boxing.
Let's go See you all next week.
Got a big show next week.
July heats the fuck up.

Speaker 1 (01:41:26):
Yeah, there's a lot going on.

Speaker 2 (01:41:28):
All right, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:41:28):
Peace.

Speaker 3 (01:41:29):
Peace God.
I hope that shit don't bite me.

Speaker 2 (01:41:35):
Wait, wait, wait I'm not saying nothing?

Speaker 3 (01:41:36):
crazy, I'm saying something.

Speaker 2 (01:41:38):
I don't know how to end it.
Wait, we're still live.
Where's my fucking keyboard?
God damn it.
Hold on, guys, we're still live, don't say anything stupid.
Birds aren't real.
Canceled, canceled.

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