The hosts analyze multiple boxing events happening in one weekend, focusing on Usyk-Dubois, Rodriguez-Cafu, Pacheco-McCumby, and Pacquiao's return against Barrios.
• Usyk expected to overcome Dubois in rematch despite controversial first encounter
• Daniel Dubois training specifically on the body shot combination that dropped Usyk previously
• Trevor McCumby facing highly-touted prospect Diego Pacheco with legitimate puncher's chance
• Will Jesse "Bam" Rodriguez continue to impress with exceptional footwork and angle creation
• Manny Pacquiao fighting after four-year layoff against current champion Mario Barrios
• Sebastian Fundora vs Tim Tszyu rematch carrying significant intrigue after cut stoppage in first fight
• Doghouse open sparring event in Brooklyn showcasing real talent including Rashidi Ellis
• Boxing politics affecting fight scheduling with fighters being booked for future bouts before completing current ones
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Let's just get right into it, right?
You want to talk aboutUsyk-Dubois first?
Yeah, that's the first fightright Punch.
Do you always go off the ripLike you don't take notes or do
you do any research, or are youjust what you think and what you
know?
I'm curious.
Yeah, just what I know.
That's crazy dude.
Good for you.
Thanks, bro.
(00:32):
I have the worst short-termmemory ever.
The shit is just fucking gone.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Bro, when I used to do comedy I didn't even write my
jokes down, Everything was inmy head because I I hated when
I'd go to an open mic you'd seecomedians like reading jokes off
their phone no, that's dumb,that's dumb yeah, it's like,
well, it's common.
I'm not like it's a, it's athing, but it's like I'm gonna
work on memorizing it in my headbecause I'm gonna need to do
that when I when I get longerset.
So I actually never.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I never wrote a single joke down that's what you
should do, though, like youcan't, when you read it off the
cuff, it doesn't hold the sameweight in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Well, no, they would look it up like they would have
jokes in their phone.
I'm not saying they would readit off their phone like a script
, but they would look throughtheir, their like jokes and see
like, which joke to tell next.
But while on set, like live atan open mic, oh, think of an
open mic like sparring yeah, butstill like at an open mic.
Think of an open mic likesparring yeah, but still at an
open mic.
I was like, look, I'm going towork on memorizing this and if I
(01:30):
can tie it with it, I wouldn'tdo that.
Oh, what should I tell next?
What should I tell next?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
But speaking of open mic like sparring, you just made
something come into my headthat I want to shout out real
quick Yo.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Why are you holding your iPhone?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Because, I'm excited about this and I hope it keeps
happening, because I couldn't go.
That fucking sparring thingthat Turk did we didn't touch on
that Friday.
Yeah, that doghouse opensparring shit Turk did in
Brooklyn.
Did you see that, Willie?
That was Turk.
I thought that was MVP.
(02:04):
No, it was Turk.
And Box Raw.
Yeah, Dude, that shit wasfucking fire.
Bro Rashidi versus JaleelHackett fire.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
That's a real fight.
That's a real fight and youguys know I'm a big Rashidi
Ellis fan Fire.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Sly says 168 has some killers on the rise, pacheco
billy, etc.
This, this has been an awesomeshow.
You know I love the slytendency guy.
I don't know you, I don't knowwhere you're from.
We were talking your girl andyou went to a weird al yankovic
concert, but I like you man,he's super cool.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
he messaged me all the time.
Yeah, um, here's the onlycriticism I have of that shit,
though.
What?
Uh, like showcase thesefighters that, like you, you
know it's good fighters but arelike not popular.
The whole thing was to show,showcase them, right?
Yeah, if you go to the post,they have like two, maybe three
posts where they actually saywho it is in the ring, and then
when you slide through all thesepictures, you can't tell who
(02:59):
any of them are, because they'rein headgear.
They are because they're inheadgear.
they got shirts on the onlypeople tagged are box, raw box
or just tagged themselves.
I was like I love how y'allonly tag yourself so we can't
tell who the fuck it is yeah,that's fucked up.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
That is like we don't care about box raw.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Tell me who the fuck ring.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Shout out to pete dobson though.
Bro, pistol pete, he's, he's.
Everyone knows him in the proranks and amateur ranks in new
york.
Uh, he's a local.
Yo, pistol Pete did his fuckingthing.
I don't know who the fuck hewas sparring, but he's like I'm
getting on this Canelo card, I'mgetting on this fucking Canelo
card and he's really, really,really, really good.
He gave Conor Benn a run forhis fucking money.
(03:35):
So Pete Dobson is he's like.
He fucked this dude up.
That's another fight out ofthere, marquis Chet knocked out
a dude too.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I saw that too, bro.
That shit was embarrassing.
And what's his name?
Kurt Scooby Scooby.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
yeah, he dropped out of the bar.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
You out there just sparring.
You think you're in a sparringmatch.
You get knocked out, or live TV, that shit was sick, bro.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
That shit was sick, bro.
That shit was cool, though thatshit was cool On stream as well
.
Oh God, dude, the shit like ifwe had money like that to just
have fun, like Turk does Jesus.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Christ.
All right, I'm hoping Rashidican get on that card, man.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
No, rashidi needs a fight man, and actually we
already spoke.
We're going to try and getRashidi on the show Nice yeah.
To try and get rashidi on theshow nice yeah.
So all right, let's get into it, though we we have.
We got to make this quick.
Willie's gonna kill me, bro.
Willie got to sleep, bro.
God damn you.
You, we're working men.
Uh.
Alexander usic versus danieldubois, lawrence acoli versus
(04:39):
kevin larina on the undercard.
Let's just because timepurposes, we're just going to
speak on Alexander Usyk versusDanny Dubois.
There's not much to reallyspeak on.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
They fought each other once before my boy got
robbed for the knockdown, williethinks he got robbed he got
robbed for the knockdown.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
And you know what, willie, you could make that
argument and you know I'll giveit to you.
You could argue that right U,I'll give it to you.
You could argue that right Usykis not losing or making it back
close again.
Look what he did to Fury, thepound for pound, best
heavyweight, the heavyweightthey said could fight in any era
of boxing.
Look what Usyk did to him thesecond time.
And Dubois is not on the samelevel as Tyson Fury.
(05:19):
That's just my opinion.
Punch, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
What do you got?
No, I'm pretty much the same.
I'm going to keep it short.
He looks better than he hasbefore.
He's on a good win streak.
If Usyk is still Usyk and stillmentally all committed, I think
it's a wash.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
And I think Usyk is.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Usyk is, usyk is.
My boy got a punching chance,that's all I got to say, yeah,
he does.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
And I want to give Dubois his credit.
One thing I noticed about himwhile he trains, he's getting
better bro.
While he trains, while hetrains I just spit.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
That shit works.
Nah, richardson was spittingall over me, bro, I'm poor.
Oh nah, richardson was spittingall over me.
Oh bro, I was poor.
Yo say hello man Say hello,this guy was just yelling.
I'm like I know he's justpassionate right now, but he's
just flying, bro, shit wasflying.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yo, I saw something, though In just the few clips
they post when Dubois wastraining, and multiple pros have
told me this he's working andthis is what knocked Usyk down,
even though it was low orarguably not low.
He's working on the same thingover and over again, the same
combo, over and over and overagain.
(06:37):
And if you look at that lastUsyk fight when he's hitting the
pads, the same combo thatknocked Usyk down was what he
was working on in the pads, overand over and over again.
And he knows Usyk's weak to thebody.
So I'm not going to say hedoesn't have a shot, but I'm
just saying Usyk is going toadapt and overcome man.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
You also got to expect Usyk, to expect that too.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
That's what I'm saying Adapt and overcome.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Usyk is not, is not sick is the best, the best
heavyweight that we have seenyeah, and he won't tell you that
, though that's the crazy thingabout him he's mike mike ladaris
just said are you guys stillrating female fighters?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
alicia bum garter, isn't that hot I'd rather pipe
michaela meyer yo you, mike Goddamn that video went viral,
though he said.
I'd rather pipe McKayla MeyerListen she wasn't on the car so
McKayla couldn't be in the smasha pass.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Guys, guys, we're going to keep this PG 13.
I'm team McKayla Meyer forvarious reasons.
That's all I'm going to say.
We talked about that earlier inthe show, show rewind.
I'm a loyal man.
Yeah, he's.
He's like the english.
He likes a good english english, fucking muffet.
Let's keep going.
All right, um, all right.
So let's give our.
(07:52):
We gave no predictions.
We always give a prediction.
Let's give one final prediction.
Willie, you go first.
What do you?
What's your prediction in thisfight?
Speaker 3 (07:59):
and willie, willie's been tearing it up I'm betting,
at least it depends with theover under, on the knockdowns,
at least over.
I'm betting, at least itdepends what the over under and
the knockdowns, at least overone One knockdown, at least over
one knockdown.
It depends what it's the overunder.
I don't even know what it is.
That's probably going to be mybest bet.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I'm doing it.
So I'm going to go and thenpunch, we're going to give it to
you.
I'm going Oleksandr Usyk KO TKO.
I don't know when I might do around bet seven through nine or
something, a round group bet,but Oleksandr Usyk KO TKO in a
fun fight.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
I'm going TKO, I think, and I think specifically
it'll be a corner stoppage, Likestopped in the corner in
between rounds.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
All right, the picks are in.
That's it for that fight.
The undercard looks okay.
The good thing about this fightis it's at Wembley.
It's probably going to sell outWembley because those, the
English fans, fucking show up.
Those are real boxing fans.
Punch you with us, hold onboxing fans.
(09:03):
Um, punch you with us, hold on.
Yeah, can you see me?
Yeah, you froze a little bit,it's all good.
The wembley and and the englishfans are the real fans of
boxing.
They, they are.
They are purists.
Uh, laurence acoli versus kevinlorena on the undercard.
That's a popular fight as well.
We're not going to touch it,though, because we are time
constrained.
We've been here too long, myass hurts.
We're going to keep it moving.
What's the next?
Are time constrained, we'vebeen here too long, my ass hurts
.
We're going to keep it moving.
What's the next card you wantto talk about?
(09:23):
The best thing about this cardis that this is a day fight on
the East Coast or in America,and then that followed by what
do you want?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I think we should do the other because it's less
popular.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Which one?
The BAM card?
Yeah, the BAM card.
I don't want to talk about thewhole card, though, unless you
have something you want to talkabout.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
I am excited for Pacheco McCombie.
I really am.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
I love Trevor.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course, oh.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
God Trevor's mean.
I totally forgot they were onthat card.
Oh fuck, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
What's your take?
Cake on that punch.
And you know, everyone thatfollows the show knows we're big
trevor mccombie fans.
He's, he's great with us he'sgot a shot.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
But I mean playing showed that he has.
He didn't have an inside gameand he got tired.
So if he, if he fixed that,he's got.
He's got a shot.
You think dubai's got apuncher's chance, mccombie got a
puncher's chance.
That motherfucker's strong andhe hits hard.
But and pacheco, he's reallygood.
You know he's up in like ahighly touted, up-and-coming
fighter for a reason, but he'snot a perfect fighter no and
(10:25):
he's also very young.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
We forget how young he is you forget trevor.
Trevor be chopping wood andshit in the woods yeah so he and
and trevor never, ever evergoes into a fight like to lose
or just for a paycheck, like ifhe's training for a fight, it's
to win and he has power in bothhands and that showed against
caleb plant.
And and many argue that was anearly stoppage which I do, he
(10:47):
was, he was getting tagged up,but many argue it was it was an
early stoppage, especially sincehe knocked caleb plant out.
Or, I'm sorry down, he knockedcaleb plant down, but again, uh,
it's one of those things where,like, and I'm just being honest
, again, I'm, I'm sorry down, heknocked caleb plant down, but
again, uh, it's one of thosethings where, like, and I'm just
being honest, again, I'm, I'mputting, I'll probably put a
hundred bucks on trevor ko tko,because I'm a trevor fan and I'm
(11:10):
backing my guy.
But, ah, pacheco's pacheco.
I hope he learned from thatlast fight, because I'm big on
what have you done for me lately.
And in that last fight was areally, really tough fight for
him and versus a really gameopponent and he did win
decisively.
But you know.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
My head tells me Pacheco, but I am rooting for
very much so McCombie, my mind'stelling me no, but my body, my
body telling me.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yeah, Trevor McCombie man, we definitely root for you
.
Yeah, 100%.
I hope you knock him out.
He came on the podcast man.
Great show, Seriously, you knowwhat?
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Even if McCombie loses right, Like he said,
You're on the podcast.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Man, you're cool as shit.
Great show, you got fuckingmorals, you got everything and
you know what.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
You know what, even if McCombie loses right, like he
said.
We asked him and you guysshould go look back at our
fucking history or whateverMcCombie said I was like what's
the biggest fight to make out ofso-and-so, basically Canelo's
leftovers?
And he said I think thatBerlanga fight is the biggest
fight.
To make me versus Berlanga.
And now say McCombie does loseright and I do not want him to
(12:23):
lose, I want him to beatPacheco's ass, say he loses,
that Berlanga fight now is areal big money fight.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Oh, yeah, If he looks good against Pacheco, like if
he doesn't get blitzed byPacheco at least like complete
washed.
It's definitely a fight and hisfight outfit is sick, I don't
want to tell you.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
You gave me a little inside info.
Yeah, it is sick oh shit.
All I'm going to say is proudto be an American.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Oh yeah, we need more of those.
He got a whole image that isgoing for him.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Dude, I love Trevor McComfie bro.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I love the stash.
He got the stash, he's justreal.
I love real people Just keep itreal, he works in youth yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Austin.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Williams is on that card too.
Yeah, but I don't know who thatis, he's fighting Me neither.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
What Girth just said about Saudis already booking Bam
against a killer.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I don't like that.
Girth Brooks says I don't likethat the Saudis are already.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw thattoo.
I don't like that.
The Saudis are already bookingBam against that killer when Bam
already has a fight booked.
Yeah, I don't like that either.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
You said it all the time it's like you can't make
your next fight before your nextfight.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
You know what I'm saying Don't pick your next
fight before your next fight.
I say it non-stop.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I'm with him.
They're doing that a lot.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
now they're doing that a lot.
They're just schedulingeverything.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
They do that a lot now.
They do that a lot.
They just schedule everything.
They said that they want tomake this.
Like, oh, we want to make thesefights, but they don't actually
announce it.
Like Bam is on the fuckingfight poster for a card in
November when he fights thisweekend.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
And like Now, what if he loses, but he's not?
What if he loses this weekend?
And then what are they going tosay?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
But here?
What if he loses?
But he's not.
What if he loses this weekend?
What are they going to say?
Here's the thing.
This is the sport of.
Anything can happen.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
A puncher's chance is like any given Sunday.
It should be any given boxingmatch.
It shouldn't even be any givenSunday it should be any given
boxing match, willie.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Beeman Got the girls creaming.
That's the song, though.
But what I'm saying, though, islike, yeah, I don't think he's
going to lose Spoiler alert butif he does, what do you do?
Just have him fight another guyon a card?
What if he wants that?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
And if you look and it's the lesser weight classes,
so nobody really, and we'll justget into it.
We're talking about JesseRodriguez versus I don't know if
I'm gonna say it's rightfamiliar kafu.
Um, I don't know much aboutfamiliar kafu because it is the
lesser weight classes andthere's so many fucking boxers
and fights going on.
It's hard to analyze everythingwhen you have a real job and
(15:13):
and boxing doesn't make youmoney.
But from what it looks like hetrained hard.
He just pulled up to dlx gym,which is a good look.
Um, jesse rodriguez is jesserodriguez.
And, as I always say anotherthing, I always say tears matter
and there's tears in boxing andsay what you want about jesse
rodriguez.
There is jesse rodriguez.
Haters is out there.
(15:33):
Jesse rodriguez is top, toptier talent, like he's top tier
talent and and the fact that Idon't know anything about
Fumilia Cafu means that he isnot top, top tier talent and
that's not taking anything awayfrom him.
He still has that any givenSunday chance and I hope he puts
on a great performance and agreat fight.
(15:54):
But this is like to me.
In my opinion and again, I knownothing about Cafu this is
Jesse Rodriguez's first real,like gimme fight in a long time.
Based off what I know about him, you know what I mean no Like.
So you're saying JesseRodriguez's resume is shit?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Oh, I thought you said this is his first real long
time and I'm like what are youtalking about?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
No, no, no, this is his first tune-up fight.
Not that he needs a tune-up,that's not what.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I heard Nah.
Bam's been wanting to fight allthe best, like all the legends,
all the Sly says Cafu is a goodboxer.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I don't think he has much for Bam.
But Kafu is a good boxer.
I don't think he has much forBam.
But a lot of people thoughtthat Angelo Leo was food for
Venado Lopez.
Yeah, that's facts.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Venado makes a lot more mistakes than Bam does to
be honest Bam is just gettingbetter and better.
He's trained.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
He can be dropped.
Yeah, he can be dropped, butwhat does he do?
This is my best thing I loveabout fighters what do you do
when you get dropped?
That's why I like Inouye.
What do you do when you getdropped?
How do you respond when you getdropped?
And Bam fucking responds?
And then you look at Bam'sresume.
Dude, people hate on himbecause, again, it's the lesser
(17:14):
weight classes.
They're not advertised like theheavier ones.
Bam is a motherfucking problem.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
He moved up in weight and took a fight against carlos
quadras as a last secondreplacement and beat his ass bro
like like bam doesn't just win,he wins and while getting
dropped and he got aura, yeah,he got swag bro for like when he
come out with with his tattoos.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
now he he got like he's a young American.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
He's just a young, cali Texas, texas, texas.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
He's got Cali swag though.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
With his shifts and his movements and his turns.
Somebody said he's like, thisis like if Riggo was a front
foot fighter.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
And had a little more dog in him.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yeah, yeah, like His angles, bro.
Like, you're right, bam'sangles are.
I said this a while ago.
I said this a while ago likewhen you're training a young
fighter, right like juststarting the box, you show him
Bam footage and go this is whatyou want to do with your feet.
Like this is what you want todo with your feet, kind of like
(18:18):
Loma, kind of like Loma.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
I've been trying to teach Jaden that shit he got a
shuffle replace he doing thatshit naturally, and then he
would throw a punch on you.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Sly says he got up smiling and slept El Gallo, and
he's right he did.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Go look at his knockdown of quadras, bro.
Beautiful things the way hefeints the step and then does
the step?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
and then switches and throws an uppercut.
Dude that went viral.
That went viral on every combatsports fucking video.
That's the shit I was talkingabout.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
That's exactly the shit I was talking about Yo, and
I'll be trying to teach thatsame combination, bro, with that
.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
I almost like.
At this point in his career heshowed he can get knocked down.
But like the old song goes,he's still young as hell.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
We forget how young he is.
Yeah, that's true too.
It's crazy and he was gettingmentioned in Pound for Pound as
that young.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
All right, so everything else on the card.
I think that was what else?
Is there another card, or is?
I think we're?
We finally reached the?
Speaker 2 (19:21):
end.
Tack y'all card, oh shit.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
That's the biggest fucking name in the air.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yeah, that's why I said we should.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
We should have just did two different shows we
should have did like a.
Tuesday or Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Yo, if Four Corners does really well, I bet you
somebody made that suggestion toPuma.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I bet you somebody told Puma he should do that.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Like a Wednesday.
Yeah, everyone's shit.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Someone did and he might be on the show now.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Oh wow, that's crazy.
We can do two days, no, weshould do two.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Me and Willie are fucking locked in dog.
I can do Monday, you can't do.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Mondays, though that's like too close together,
Like Sunday and Monday.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Yeah, but I work Tuesday through Friday.
We'll talk about this off air.
God damn it.
Yeah, we don't have to talkabout the whole card.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I don't care about Brandon Figueroa fighting Joe
Gonzalez.
I'm going to watch it, but Idon't care.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I don't care about anything on that card.
Obviously, I care about MannyPacquiao and, based off the
information that I received froma friend of mine, I was leaning
more towards the other way.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
I still don't care about it.
It's not a real.
Even if he wins, he's not goingto defend it against anybody
worth a pub.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
He's not going to win , dude, he's not going to win.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
This is basically, but I do care about Zufandora.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Oh yeah, zufandora we have to touch on.
Yeah, yeah For sure, and that'son the undercard Prop.
Yeah for sure, and that's onthe undercard Props to them for
putting Once again, the co-mainis the best fight.
This is what the Turk effectdoes, though.
They put good cards together,they put the pressure.
This is why this is like inbusiness, right Going in history
.
Business teachers should teachthis.
Why you can't have a monopoly,because this is just generating
(21:04):
money for each entity, becausewe're like damn, this is a good
card, not a great card, but it'snamed.
It's named though.
It's named recognition.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
PBC does a lot of this shit.
They put names on it, but theodds are always just so wide,
bro.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Yeah, sly says pissed about Anthony Karrasch pulling
out.
Yeah, me too.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
He hurt his back bro.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I don't think like usually I'd say oh he's ducking,
but I don't think karas istaking ducks like he's.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
He's actually hurt yeah um on a saudi card.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
He's not pulling out of that no, no, hell, no, hell,
no, hell, no, and and that'sthat's in.
That's a winnable fight for himand I'm team ford, but anyway,
let's, let's keep it rolling.
We got to stay on track.
This is tough with the comments.
I don't care about Pitbull'sfight.
I honestly do not.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I don't care about that either.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah, I don't like him either.
He has knockout power, but he'sthe most one-dimensional
fighter in the game.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
And his fans are fucking awful.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah, just because he did well against Tank or he
lasted with Tank, he even didwell.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
One-handed Tank, by the way, yeah he went the
distance we took him on shortnotice.
But then even when he lost toRail, everybody was like oh,
rail just ran, rail just ran.
No, no, he moved.
Yeah, it's stupid.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
That was a great fight.
Anyway, let's stay on trackhere, because we got to wrap
this up, I got to fucking editthis shit.
Assholes, pacquiao, pacquiao,manny Pacquiao versus.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Mario Barrios.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
I almost said Mario Lopez.
I was like it's not Mario Lopez, manny Pacquiao versus Mario
Lopez, I mean Barrios.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
It's time to go Listen age.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
The best thing I can compare this to is Mike Tyson
versus Jake Paul.
The Pacquiao clips we see right, and that's all we see as fans
is just the Pacquiao clips isjust little 10-second clips or
5-second clips him jogging witha cool team of cool fighters and
we don't see real clips.
(23:12):
The Tyson one went a stepfurther.
They showed him sparring andlanding clean shots on a real
boxer that we actually know andwe're like, wait, no, I don't
think that really happened, butwhatever, based on what we know,
I heard from a friend of minethat barrios has been having
problems in sparring.
Uh, it doesn't matter to me.
(23:34):
It father.
Time is undefeated.
I don't care how much of alegend you are, mario barrios is
a champion.
He, he does beat real fighters,no matter how close it is.
This is going to be like asparring match and a one-sided
affair.
Mario barrios decision yeah ort.
I honestly wouldn't be surprisedif it's a stoppage bro yeah,
(23:55):
like, and it's only because ofpacquiao's age, and again, he
was old, his last fight fouryears ago exactly.
But I will say this one of oneof pacquiao's best wins, I think
and I'll argue with peopleabout this and it can go either
way was Keith Thurman because ofhis age.
He was amazing and how he didthat, how he won, say what you
(24:17):
want.
Where Keith Thurman was at, howPacquiao won that fight was
crazy.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
I'm going with Pacquiao.
I'm going to bet on Pacquiao asa fan.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I'm going with.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Pacquiao.
I'm going with the old Pacquiao.
His legs never leave.
He got the legs still.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
He trained with all them young motherfuckers bro.
Really, he doesn't, he doesn't.
Inactivity is a real thing, bro, and inactivity when you're in
your 40s is a real thing, andhe's closer to 50 than 40.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Exactly, he's closer to 50 than 40.
Exactly, he's still got achance.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
He's Beehive's age when Beehive beat Pascal.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Willie, I'm not coming at you, but do you go
down the stairs like you used to?
No, no, that's it.
Oh my God, and we're nobody.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
But he's got legs.
Though I don't have no legs, Igot legs like Morel, willie,
willie, willie.
You see, morel legs, those arejust chicken legs.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Here's my thing, though If Pacquiao wins and I
hate to say this, because y'allknow I love Barrios, but that's
honestly the best possibleoutcome, because if he wins,
he's going to retire, he's goingto vacate that shit, and then
the WBC belt is up for grabs,and then PBC can't hold it
hostage and keep doing this shit, because look at Barrios' last,
(25:31):
I think.
Then he bought Maidana and AbelRamos, and it's like nobody
wanted that shit.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
I'm digging really deep here and I'm getting a
little deep, but I think whatPBC is doing is oh shit, netflix
and Jake Paul are bringingthese big legends back.
Turk alice chic has all themoney to bring whoever the fuck
he wants back.
He's like oh shit, who do wegot pacquiao will come pacquiao,
and I think it's, it's part ofthis.
(25:59):
It's actually the wall bro.
yeah, it's the bad part of themonopoly, but but that being
said, whatever, hey, I'm rootingfor Pacquiao.
I'm going to throw some moneyon Pacquiao to make it fun.
I'm excited to see him.
Yeah, I'm going to throw somemoney on him to make it fun.
I'll have the two TVs going andwe might have a dual podcast
crowd here, which would be cool.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
We might record live.
Yeah, we might have to go livefor that.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Real for that Zoo Fundora.
Oh shit, shit, shit.
I forgot about that.
We've been so deep.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
That's the best fight on the card.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is agreat fight.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Hopefully there's no cuts.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
If Zoo correct me if I'm wrong, Zou fought after the
Fundora fight, right?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Twice.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah, all right, all right, that's it, that's it,
that's it, that's it.
That's all I needed.
Again, I didn't do research onthis because we went to the
fights last night.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Well, he got knocked out by the Bokrum guy in like
three he got mollywhopped bythat Bokrum guy in like three
rounds, which is make yeah, andhe did okay versus joey spencer.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
But but I will say this fundora is going to come
and he's going to come to crackand I know zoo, before the cut,
was landing hard shots onfundora, who has a suspect chin
right and he has been knockeddown.
That tree has been chopped.
But also, uh, when you getknocked down, like fundora got
knocked down and you're gonnaget hit by, I mean like zoo got
(27:22):
knocked down and you're gonnaget get hit by, I mean like zoo
got knocked down and you'regoing to get hit by Fandora, I
think Fandora is going to takethis Cause.
Fandora knocked out the lastguy he bought too.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yeah, yeah, yep, and, and Fandora, fandora is coming,
no matter what.
Whether he gets knocked down ornot, you, he's only getting
better and I will say this,though I'm not trying to give
Zoo no chance Prior to the cut,and even with the cut, blinded
Zoo was landing hard shots andZoo does have real power.
(27:51):
But once Zoo gets clipped aftergetting knocked down, like that
which he is going to get byFundora, it's not going to end
well for him in my opinion, zoowas so hyped that's the fucked
up part.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
He was so hyped.
Before Fandora he was hyped Iforgot what Fighter was He'd
been hyped for a minute.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yeah, Zoo's real, but I can't take anything away from
Zoo man.
Nobody wants to fight Fandora.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Nobody wants to fight Fandora.
Remember Eric Spencer wastrying to put himself in there
he didn't fight nobody.
He didn't fight neither one ofthem.
He just put himself in themiddle of the Vandora and all
that Just come inside the ringlike he was going to fight
somebody.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
I'm so glad that shit didn't happen.
That's PBC, though, bro.
That's PBC, yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
I know when is Spence at.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
They were there.
Al Heyman's people were thereat the ring three fight too.
You're going to see some shit.
It's one thing I noticed andwe'll close out.
Let's get our prediction forZufandor, because that is a
really good fight.
I think Punch wanted toelaborate on that.
Yeah, go ahead.
Go off a little bit on yourtake on Zufandor.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Oh, no, no, I just wanted to talk about it.
I honestly don't know, bro,because everything you said I
have so many questions about itbecause I know Su can beat
Zufandor.
I know he can.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Now Can he now, Based off what he's been through?
Speaker 2 (29:22):
But my whole thing is that, because what I hate what
fighters do is when they lose afight, they're like oh, I only
lost to this guy because of thisone thing.
In this case, it's the cut Ifhe goes in and tries to fight
the exact same way, or if hetries to do a style that's not
his style, trying to bedifferent.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
I don't know.
My thing is, the only thing islike, yes, you're right, um, but
if, if fundora, once, once hegets, he's good, you're gonna
get cracked by fundora, likeyou're gonna have to take hits
by fundora and once that, oncethat brain gets jogged one more
time after what he's beenthrough, like they should have
rematched immediately, but oncethat brain gets jogged that one
(30:04):
more time, that's all she wrotefor for zoo, man well errol
spence fucked up that immediaterematch because he was supposed
to fight spence next and then itgot canceled.
So fundora went and foughtbakram yeah, it's true, but I'm
just saying that in regards tothis fight itself, based off
what, what we know, I just I seeZoo having early, early success
(30:27):
and then he's going to get hitby that long fucking beanstalk
like he did last fight, and nowit's all those horror story.
Memories are going to come back.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
And Zoo doesn't hurt him early.
I don't even mean knock him out, but if he doesn't hurt him
early he's not going mean knockhim out, but if he doesn't hurt
him early he's not going to win.
But even that the first fiverounds, the first five.
He landed a good shot againstFandora in that first fight.
He didn't hurt him.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
He has to hurt him.
You know what I mean.
He's got to drop him or rockhim, get his legs shaking.
Yeah, like disable.
A a hand, fundora's a dog,fundora's an avalanche that
keeps falling down.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
That's the whole point.
He throws a lot of punches too.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
In close.
What's your pick?
Speaker 2 (31:12):
I don't know.
This is a fight I can't pickbecause I honestly don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I'm going Fundora KO TKO.
I'm just going Fundora KO TKO.
Based off what I know.
I think he's in some troubleearly, but he is tough as shit.
Fandora, he's been knocked down, got up and did his thing.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
It's not that I see ways both of them can win, as
dumb as it sounds.
I see ways both of them canlose, if that makes any sense.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
What do you got Willie?
Speaker 1 (31:43):
I think this is gonna be the first 12 round fight for
them they're going 12 rounds.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
This fight.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
This is it's gonna go 12 uh, in closing slide,
tendencies 87 says fandora isanonymously.
Uh, it's that.
He's got the most insane reachever, but he fights on the
inside.
Yes, you're right, I agree, timzoo can win, but he to be
himself.
I hope he's learned from hispast.
I think he did learn from hispast, but once you get that
(32:07):
brain rattled, all those demonscome back from the depths.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Yeah, you can say that about both of them to be
honest.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Yes, true, true.
But I just feel like recentlyZoo had a real reality check.
You know, that's all.
Yeah, he lost real bad bro.
Yeah, Bad dad.
But hey, we got to close outthe show.
We are almost three hours inbro.
Yeah, we could have made it toAtlantic City, banged a hooker
and made it back.
God damn Yo Punch.
Always a pleasure.
(32:35):
Thank you guys for having me.
Me and Punch literally saidyeah, we got to try to keep it
under hour Boom, three hourshere.
We are All good, though whocares?
We had great interactions.
Hopefully we keep that goingfor anyone still listening.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
This was a fucking fantastic live man.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Thanks for everybody for showing up.
Boxing is great.
Please like, follow, subscribeon everything.
We're more active on Instagram,but we're trying to push the
YouTube.
Youtube apparently has betterquality or whatever, so keep
doing your thing.
Punch will chat, willie, youknow, will always chat.
Yeah, that's it, y'all Peace.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Later, oh man.
Yo punch later, bro Wait.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Yeah, my bad guys, don't talk yet.
It's not your fault, god damnit.
End stream.
Let's just get right into it, right?
You want to talk aboutUsyk-Dubois first?
Yeah, that's the first fightright Punch.
Do you always go off the ripLike you don't take notes or do
you do any research, or are youjust what you think and what you
know?
I'm curious.
Yeah, just what I know.
That's crazy dude.
Good for you.
Thanks, bro.
(00:32):
I have the worst short-termmemory ever.
The shit is just fucking gone.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Bro, when I used to do comedy I didn't even write my
jokes down, Everything was inmy head because I I hated when
I'd go to an open mic you'd seecomedians like reading jokes off
their phone no, that's dumb,that's dumb yeah, it's like,
well, it's common.
I'm not like it's a, it's athing, but it's like I'm gonna
work on memorizing it in my headbecause I'm gonna need to do
that when I when I get longerset.
So I actually never.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I never wrote a single joke down that's what you
should do, though, like youcan't, when you read it off the
cuff, it doesn't hold the sameweight in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Well, no, they would look it up like they would have
jokes in their phone.
I'm not saying they would readit off their phone like a script
, but they would look throughtheir, their like jokes and see
like, which joke to tell next.
But while on set, like live atan open mic, oh, think of an
open mic like sparring yeah, butstill like at an open mic.
Think of an open mic likesparring yeah, but still at an
open mic.
I was like, look, I'm going towork on memorizing this and if I
(01:30):
can tie it with it, I wouldn'tdo that.
Oh, what should I tell next?
What should I tell next?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
But speaking of open mic like sparring, you just made
something come into my headthat I want to shout out real
quick Yo.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Why are you holding your iPhone?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Because, I'm excited about this and I hope it keeps
happening, because I couldn't go.
That fucking sparring thingthat Turk did we didn't touch on
that Friday.
Yeah, that doghouse opensparring shit Turk did in
Brooklyn.
Did you see that, Willie?
That was Turk.
I thought that was MVP.
(02:04):
No, it was Turk.
And Box Raw.
Yeah, Dude, that shit wasfucking fire.
Bro Rashidi versus JaleelHackett fire.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
That's a real fight.
That's a real fight and youguys know I'm a big Rashidi
Ellis fan Fire.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Sly says 168 has some killers on the rise, pacheco
billy, etc.
This, this has been an awesomeshow.
You know I love the slytendency guy.
I don't know you, I don't knowwhere you're from.
We were talking your girl andyou went to a weird al yankovic
concert, but I like you man,he's super cool.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
he messaged me all the time.
Yeah, um, here's the onlycriticism I have of that shit,
though.
What?
Uh, like showcase thesefighters that, like you, you
know it's good fighters but arelike not popular.
The whole thing was to show,showcase them, right?
Yeah, if you go to the post,they have like two, maybe three
posts where they actually saywho it is in the ring, and then
when you slide through all thesepictures, you can't tell who
(02:59):
any of them are, because they'rein headgear.
They are because they're inheadgear.
they got shirts on the onlypeople tagged are box, raw box
or just tagged themselves.
I was like I love how y'allonly tag yourself so we can't
tell who the fuck it is yeah,that's fucked up.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
That is like we don't care about box raw.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Tell me who the fuck ring.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Shout out to pete dobson though.
Bro, pistol pete, he's, he's.
Everyone knows him in the proranks and amateur ranks in new
york.
Uh, he's a local.
Yo, pistol Pete did his fuckingthing.
I don't know who the fuck hewas sparring, but he's like I'm
getting on this Canelo card, I'mgetting on this fucking Canelo
card and he's really, really,really, really good.
He gave Conor Benn a run forhis fucking money.
(03:35):
So Pete Dobson is he's like.
He fucked this dude up.
That's another fight out ofthere, marquis Chet knocked out
a dude too.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I saw that too, bro.
That shit was embarrassing.
And what's his name?
Kurt Scooby Scooby.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
yeah, he dropped out of the bar.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
You out there just sparring.
You think you're in a sparringmatch.
You get knocked out, or live TV, that shit was sick, bro.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
That shit was sick, bro.
That shit was cool, though thatshit was cool On stream as well
.
Oh God, dude, the shit like ifwe had money like that to just
have fun, like Turk does Jesus.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Christ.
All right, I'm hoping Rashidican get on that card, man.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
No, rashidi needs a fight man, and actually we
already spoke.
We're going to try and getRashidi on the show Nice yeah.
To try and get rashidi on theshow nice yeah.
So all right, let's get into it, though we we have.
We got to make this quick.
Willie's gonna kill me, bro.
Willie got to sleep, bro.
God damn you.
You, we're working men.
Uh.
Alexander usic versus danieldubois, lawrence acoli versus
(04:39):
kevin larina on the undercard.
Let's just because timepurposes, we're just going to
speak on Alexander Usyk versusDanny Dubois.
There's not much to reallyspeak on.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
They fought each other once before my boy got
robbed for the knockdown, williethinks he got robbed he got
robbed for the knockdown.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
And you know what, willie, you could make that
argument and you know I'll giveit to you.
You could argue that right U,I'll give it to you.
You could argue that right Usykis not losing or making it back
close again.
Look what he did to Fury, thepound for pound, best
heavyweight, the heavyweightthey said could fight in any era
of boxing.
Look what Usyk did to him thesecond time.
And Dubois is not on the samelevel as Tyson Fury.
(05:19):
That's just my opinion.
Punch, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
What do you got?
No, I'm pretty much the same.
I'm going to keep it short.
He looks better than he hasbefore.
He's on a good win streak.
If Usyk is still Usyk and stillmentally all committed, I think
it's a wash.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
And I think Usyk is.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Usyk is, usyk is.
My boy got a punching chance,that's all I got to say, yeah,
he does.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
And I want to give Dubois his credit.
One thing I noticed about himwhile he trains, he's getting
better bro.
While he trains, while hetrains I just spit.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
That shit works.
Nah, richardson was spittingall over me, bro, I'm poor.
Oh nah, richardson was spittingall over me.
Oh bro, I was poor.
Yo say hello man Say hello,this guy was just yelling.
I'm like I know he's justpassionate right now, but he's
just flying, bro, shit wasflying.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yo, I saw something, though In just the few clips
they post when Dubois wastraining, and multiple pros have
told me this he's working andthis is what knocked Usyk down,
even though it was low orarguably not low.
He's working on the same thingover and over again, the same
combo, over and over and overagain.
(06:37):
And if you look at that lastUsyk fight when he's hitting the
pads, the same combo thatknocked Usyk down was what he
was working on in the pads, overand over and over again.
And he knows Usyk's weak to thebody.
So I'm not going to say hedoesn't have a shot, but I'm
just saying Usyk is going toadapt and overcome man.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
You also got to expect Usyk, to expect that too.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
That's what I'm saying Adapt and overcome.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Usyk is not, is not sick is the best, the best
heavyweight that we have seenyeah, and he won't tell you that
, though that's the crazy thingabout him he's mike mike ladaris
just said are you guys stillrating female fighters?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
alicia bum garter, isn't that hot I'd rather pipe
michaela meyer yo you, mike Goddamn that video went viral,
though he said.
I'd rather pipe McKayla MeyerListen she wasn't on the car so
McKayla couldn't be in the smasha pass.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Guys, guys, we're going to keep this PG 13.
I'm team McKayla Meyer forvarious reasons.
That's all I'm going to say.
We talked about that earlier inthe show, show rewind.
I'm a loyal man.
Yeah, he's.
He's like the english.
He likes a good english english, fucking muffet.
Let's keep going.
All right, um, all right.
So let's give our.
(07:52):
We gave no predictions.
We always give a prediction.
Let's give one final prediction.
Willie, you go first.
What do you?
What's your prediction in thisfight?
Speaker 3 (07:59):
and willie, willie's been tearing it up I'm betting,
at least it depends with theover under, on the knockdowns,
at least over.
I'm betting, at least itdepends what the over under and
the knockdowns, at least overone One knockdown, at least over
one knockdown.
It depends what it's the overunder.
I don't even know what it is.
That's probably going to be mybest bet.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I'm doing it.
So I'm going to go and thenpunch, we're going to give it to
you.
I'm going Oleksandr Usyk KO TKO.
I don't know when I might do around bet seven through nine or
something, a round group bet,but Oleksandr Usyk KO TKO in a
fun fight.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
I'm going TKO, I think, and I think specifically
it'll be a corner stoppage, Likestopped in the corner in
between rounds.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
All right, the picks are in.
That's it for that fight.
The undercard looks okay.
The good thing about this fightis it's at Wembley.
It's probably going to sell outWembley because those, the
English fans, fucking show up.
Those are real boxing fans.
Punch you with us, hold onboxing fans.
(09:03):
Um, punch you with us, hold on.
Yeah, can you see me?
Yeah, you froze a little bit,it's all good.
The wembley and and the englishfans are the real fans of
boxing.
They, they are.
They are purists.
Uh, laurence acoli versus kevinlorena on the undercard.
That's a popular fight as well.
We're not going to touch it,though, because we are time
constrained.
We've been here too long, myass hurts.
We're going to keep it moving.
What's the next?
Are time constrained, we'vebeen here too long, my ass hurts
.
We're going to keep it moving.
What's the next card you wantto talk about?
(09:23):
The best thing about this cardis that this is a day fight on
the East Coast or in America,and then that followed by what
do you want?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I think we should do the other because it's less
popular.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Which one?
The BAM card?
Yeah, the BAM card.
I don't want to talk about thewhole card, though, unless you
have something you want to talkabout.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
I am excited for Pacheco McCombie.
I really am.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
I love Trevor.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course, oh.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
God Trevor's mean.
I totally forgot they were onthat card.
Oh fuck, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
What's your take?
Cake on that punch.
And you know, everyone thatfollows the show knows we're big
trevor mccombie fans.
He's, he's great with us he'sgot a shot.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
But I mean playing showed that he has.
He didn't have an inside gameand he got tired.
So if he, if he fixed that,he's got.
He's got a shot.
You think dubai's got apuncher's chance, mccombie got a
puncher's chance.
That motherfucker's strong andhe hits hard.
But and pacheco, he's reallygood.
You know he's up in like ahighly touted, up-and-coming
fighter for a reason, but he'snot a perfect fighter no and
(10:25):
he's also very young.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
We forget how young he is you forget trevor.
Trevor be chopping wood andshit in the woods yeah so he and
and trevor never, ever evergoes into a fight like to lose
or just for a paycheck, like ifhe's training for a fight, it's
to win and he has power in bothhands and that showed against
caleb plant.
And and many argue that was anearly stoppage which I do, he
(10:47):
was, he was getting tagged up,but many argue it was it was an
early stoppage, especially sincehe knocked caleb plant out.
Or, I'm sorry down, he knockedcaleb plant down, but again, uh,
it's one of those things where,like, and I'm just being honest
, again, I'm, I'm sorry down, heknocked caleb plant down, but
again, uh, it's one of thosethings where, like, and I'm just
being honest, again, I'm, I'mputting, I'll probably put a
hundred bucks on trevor ko tko,because I'm a trevor fan and I'm
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backing my guy.
But, ah, pacheco's pacheco.
I hope he learned from thatlast fight, because I'm big on
what have you done for me lately.
And in that last fight was areally, really tough fight for
him and versus a really gameopponent and he did win
decisively.
But you know.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
My head tells me Pacheco, but I am rooting for
very much so McCombie, my mind'stelling me no, but my body, my
body telling me.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yeah, Trevor McCombie man, we definitely root for you
.
Yeah, 100%.
I hope you knock him out.
He came on the podcast man.
Great show, Seriously, you knowwhat?
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Even if McCombie loses right, Like he said,
You're on the podcast.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Man, you're cool as shit.
Great show, you got fuckingmorals, you got everything and
you know what.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
You know what, even if McCombie loses right, like he
said.
We asked him and you guysshould go look back at our
fucking history or whateverMcCombie said I was like what's
the biggest fight to make out ofso-and-so, basically Canelo's
leftovers?
And he said I think thatBerlanga fight is the biggest
fight.
To make me versus Berlanga.
And now say McCombie does loseright and I do not want him to
(12:23):
lose, I want him to beatPacheco's ass, say he loses,
that Berlanga fight now is areal big money fight.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Oh, yeah, If he looks good against Pacheco, like if
he doesn't get blitzed byPacheco at least like complete
washed.
It's definitely a fight and hisfight outfit is sick, I don't
want to tell you.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
You gave me a little inside info.
Yeah, it is sick oh shit.
All I'm going to say is proudto be an American.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Oh yeah, we need more of those.
He got a whole image that isgoing for him.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Dude, I love Trevor McComfie bro.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I love the stash.
He got the stash, he's justreal.
I love real people Just keep itreal, he works in youth yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Austin.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Williams is on that card too.
Yeah, but I don't know who thatis, he's fighting Me neither.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
What Girth just said about Saudis already booking Bam
against a killer.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I don't like that.
Girth Brooks says I don't likethat the Saudis are already.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw thattoo.
I don't like that.
The Saudis are already bookingBam against that killer when Bam
already has a fight booked.
Yeah, I don't like that either.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
You said it all the time it's like you can't make
your next fight before your nextfight.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
You know what I'm saying Don't pick your next
fight before your next fight.
I say it non-stop.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I'm with him.
They're doing that a lot.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
now they're doing that a lot.
They're just schedulingeverything.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
They do that a lot now.
They do that a lot.
They just schedule everything.
They said that they want tomake this.
Like, oh, we want to make thesefights, but they don't actually
announce it.
Like Bam is on the fuckingfight poster for a card in
November when he fights thisweekend.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
And like Now, what if he loses, but he's not?
What if he loses this weekend?
And then what are they going tosay?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
But here?
What if he loses?
But he's not.
What if he loses this weekend?
What are they going to say?
Here's the thing.
This is the sport of.
Anything can happen.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
A puncher's chance is like any given Sunday.
It should be any given boxingmatch.
It shouldn't even be any givenSunday it should be any given
boxing match, willie.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Beeman Got the girls creaming.
That's the song, though.
But what I'm saying, though, islike, yeah, I don't think he's
going to lose Spoiler alert butif he does, what do you do?
Just have him fight another guyon a card?
What if he wants that?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
And if you look and it's the lesser weight classes,
so nobody really, and we'll justget into it.
We're talking about JesseRodriguez versus I don't know if
I'm gonna say it's rightfamiliar kafu.
Um, I don't know much aboutfamiliar kafu because it is the
lesser weight classes andthere's so many fucking boxers
and fights going on.
It's hard to analyze everythingwhen you have a real job and
(15:13):
and boxing doesn't make youmoney.
But from what it looks like hetrained hard.
He just pulled up to dlx gym,which is a good look.
Um, jesse rodriguez is jesserodriguez.
And, as I always say anotherthing, I always say tears matter
and there's tears in boxing andsay what you want about jesse
rodriguez.
There is jesse rodriguez.
Haters is out there.
(15:33):
Jesse rodriguez is top, toptier talent, like he's top tier
talent and and the fact that Idon't know anything about
Fumilia Cafu means that he isnot top, top tier talent and
that's not taking anything awayfrom him.
He still has that any givenSunday chance and I hope he puts
on a great performance and agreat fight.
(15:54):
But this is like to me.
In my opinion and again, I knownothing about Cafu this is
Jesse Rodriguez's first real,like gimme fight in a long time.
Based off what I know about him, you know what I mean no Like.
So you're saying JesseRodriguez's resume is shit?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Oh, I thought you said this is his first real long
time and I'm like what are youtalking about?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
No, no, no, this is his first tune-up fight.
Not that he needs a tune-up,that's not what.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I heard Nah.
Bam's been wanting to fight allthe best, like all the legends,
all the Sly says Cafu is a goodboxer.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I don't think he has much for Bam.
But Kafu is a good boxer.
I don't think he has much forBam.
But a lot of people thoughtthat Angelo Leo was food for
Venado Lopez.
Yeah, that's facts.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Venado makes a lot more mistakes than Bam does to
be honest Bam is just gettingbetter and better.
He's trained.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
He can be dropped.
Yeah, he can be dropped, butwhat does he do?
This is my best thing I loveabout fighters what do you do
when you get dropped?
That's why I like Inouye.
What do you do when you getdropped?
How do you respond when you getdropped?
And Bam fucking responds?
And then you look at Bam'sresume.
Dude, people hate on himbecause, again, it's the lesser
(17:14):
weight classes.
They're not advertised like theheavier ones.
Bam is a motherfucking problem.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
He moved up in weight and took a fight against carlos
quadras as a last secondreplacement and beat his ass bro
like like bam doesn't just win,he wins and while getting
dropped and he got aura, yeah,he got swag bro for like when he
come out with with his tattoos.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
now he he got like he's a young American.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
He's just a young, cali Texas, texas, texas.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
He's got Cali swag though.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
With his shifts and his movements and his turns.
Somebody said he's like, thisis like if Riggo was a front
foot fighter.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
And had a little more dog in him.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yeah, yeah, like His angles, bro.
Like, you're right, bam'sangles are.
I said this a while ago.
I said this a while ago likewhen you're training a young
fighter, right like juststarting the box, you show him
Bam footage and go this is whatyou want to do with your feet.
Like this is what you want todo with your feet, kind of like
(18:18):
Loma, kind of like Loma.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
I've been trying to teach Jaden that shit he got a
shuffle replace he doing thatshit naturally, and then he
would throw a punch on you.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Sly says he got up smiling and slept El Gallo, and
he's right he did.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Go look at his knockdown of quadras, bro.
Beautiful things the way hefeints the step and then does
the step?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
and then switches and throws an uppercut.
Dude that went viral.
That went viral on every combatsports fucking video.
That's the shit I was talkingabout.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
That's exactly the shit I was talking about Yo, and
I'll be trying to teach thatsame combination, bro, with that
.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
I almost like.
At this point in his career heshowed he can get knocked down.
But like the old song goes,he's still young as hell.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
We forget how young he is.
Yeah, that's true too.
It's crazy and he was gettingmentioned in Pound for Pound as
that young.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
All right, so everything else on the card.
I think that was what else?
Is there another card, or is?
I think we're?
We finally reached the?
Speaker 2 (19:21):
end.
Tack y'all card, oh shit.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
That's the biggest fucking name in the air.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yeah, that's why I said we should.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
We should have just did two different shows we
should have did like a.
Tuesday or Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Yo, if Four Corners does really well, I bet you
somebody made that suggestion toPuma.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I bet you somebody told Puma he should do that.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Like a Wednesday.
Yeah, everyone's shit.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Someone did and he might be on the show now.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Oh wow, that's crazy.
We can do two days, no, weshould do two.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Me and Willie are fucking locked in dog.
I can do Monday, you can't do.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Mondays, though that's like too close together,
Like Sunday and Monday.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Yeah, but I work Tuesday through Friday.
We'll talk about this off air.
God damn it.
Yeah, we don't have to talkabout the whole card.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I don't care about Brandon Figueroa fighting Joe
Gonzalez.
I'm going to watch it, but Idon't care.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I don't care about anything on that card.
Obviously, I care about MannyPacquiao and, based off the
information that I received froma friend of mine, I was leaning
more towards the other way.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
I still don't care about it.
It's not a real.
Even if he wins, he's not goingto defend it against anybody
worth a pub.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
He's not going to win , dude, he's not going to win.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
This is basically, but I do care about Zufandora.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Oh yeah, zufandora we have to touch on.
Yeah, yeah For sure, and that'son the undercard Prop.
Yeah for sure, and that's onthe undercard Props to them for
putting Once again, the co-mainis the best fight.
This is what the Turk effectdoes, though.
They put good cards together,they put the pressure.
This is why this is like inbusiness, right Going in history
.
Business teachers should teachthis.
Why you can't have a monopoly,because this is just generating
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money for each entity, becausewe're like damn, this is a good
card, not a great card, but it'snamed.
It's named though.
It's named recognition.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
PBC does a lot of this shit.
They put names on it, but theodds are always just so wide,
bro.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Yeah, sly says pissed about Anthony Karrasch pulling
out.
Yeah, me too.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
He hurt his back bro.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I don't think like usually I'd say oh he's ducking,
but I don't think karas istaking ducks like he's.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
He's actually hurt yeah um on a saudi card.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
He's not pulling out of that no, no, hell, no, hell,
no, hell, no, and and that'sthat's in.
That's a winnable fight for himand I'm team ford, but anyway,
let's, let's keep it rolling.
We got to stay on track.
This is tough with the comments.
I don't care about Pitbull'sfight.
I honestly do not.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I don't care about that either.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah, I don't like him either.
He has knockout power, but he'sthe most one-dimensional
fighter in the game.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
And his fans are fucking awful.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah, just because he did well against Tank or he
lasted with Tank, he even didwell.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
One-handed Tank, by the way, yeah he went the
distance we took him on shortnotice.
But then even when he lost toRail, everybody was like oh,
rail just ran, rail just ran.
No, no, he moved.
Yeah, it's stupid.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
That was a great fight.
Anyway, let's stay on trackhere, because we got to wrap
this up, I got to fucking editthis shit.
Assholes, pacquiao, pacquiao,manny Pacquiao versus.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Mario Barrios.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
I almost said Mario Lopez.
I was like it's not Mario Lopez, manny Pacquiao versus Mario
Lopez, I mean Barrios.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
It's time to go Listen age.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
The best thing I can compare this to is Mike Tyson
versus Jake Paul.
The Pacquiao clips we see right, and that's all we see as fans
is just the Pacquiao clips isjust little 10-second clips or
5-second clips him jogging witha cool team of cool fighters and
we don't see real clips.
(23:12):
The Tyson one went a stepfurther.
They showed him sparring andlanding clean shots on a real
boxer that we actually know andwe're like, wait, no, I don't
think that really happened, butwhatever, based on what we know,
I heard from a friend of minethat barrios has been having
problems in sparring.
Uh, it doesn't matter to me.
(23:34):
It father.
Time is undefeated.
I don't care how much of alegend you are, mario barrios is
a champion.
He, he does beat real fighters,no matter how close it is.
This is going to be like asparring match and a one-sided
affair.
Mario barrios decision yeah ort.
I honestly wouldn't be surprisedif it's a stoppage bro yeah,
(23:55):
like, and it's only because ofpacquiao's age, and again, he
was old, his last fight fouryears ago exactly.
But I will say this one of oneof pacquiao's best wins, I think
and I'll argue with peopleabout this and it can go either
way was Keith Thurman because ofhis age.
He was amazing and how he didthat, how he won, say what you
(24:17):
want.
Where Keith Thurman was at, howPacquiao won that fight was
crazy.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
I'm going with Pacquiao.
I'm going to bet on Pacquiao asa fan.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I'm going with.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Pacquiao.
I'm going with the old Pacquiao.
His legs never leave.
He got the legs still.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
He trained with all them young motherfuckers bro.
Really, he doesn't, he doesn't.
Inactivity is a real thing, bro, and inactivity when you're in
your 40s is a real thing, andhe's closer to 50 than 40.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Exactly, he's closer to 50 than 40.
Exactly, he's still got achance.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
He's Beehive's age when Beehive beat Pascal.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Willie, I'm not coming at you, but do you go
down the stairs like you used to?
No, no, that's it.
Oh my God, and we're nobody.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
But he's got legs.
Though I don't have no legs, Igot legs like Morel, willie,
willie, willie.
You see, morel legs, those arejust chicken legs.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Here's my thing, though If Pacquiao wins and I
hate to say this, because y'allknow I love Barrios, but that's
honestly the best possibleoutcome, because if he wins,
he's going to retire, he's goingto vacate that shit, and then
the WBC belt is up for grabs,and then PBC can't hold it
hostage and keep doing this shit, because look at Barrios' last,
(25:31):
I think.
Then he bought Maidana and AbelRamos, and it's like nobody
wanted that shit.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
I'm digging really deep here and I'm getting a
little deep, but I think whatPBC is doing is oh shit, netflix
and Jake Paul are bringingthese big legends back.
Turk alice chic has all themoney to bring whoever the fuck
he wants back.
He's like oh shit, who do wegot pacquiao will come pacquiao,
and I think it's, it's part ofthis.
(25:59):
It's actually the wall bro.
yeah, it's the bad part of themonopoly, but but that being
said, whatever, hey, I'm rootingfor Pacquiao.
I'm going to throw some moneyon Pacquiao to make it fun.
I'm excited to see him.
Yeah, I'm going to throw somemoney on him to make it fun.
I'll have the two TVs going andwe might have a dual podcast
crowd here, which would be cool.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
We might record live.
Yeah, we might have to go livefor that.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Real for that Zoo Fundora.
Oh shit, shit, shit.
I forgot about that.
We've been so deep.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
That's the best fight on the card.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is agreat fight.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Hopefully there's no cuts.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
If Zoo correct me if I'm wrong, Zou fought after the
Fundora fight, right?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Twice.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah, all right, all right, that's it, that's it,
that's it, that's it.
That's all I needed.
Again, I didn't do research onthis because we went to the
fights last night.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Well, he got knocked out by the Bokrum guy in like
three he got mollywhopped bythat Bokrum guy in like three
rounds, which is make yeah, andhe did okay versus joey spencer.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
But but I will say this fundora is going to come
and he's going to come to crackand I know zoo, before the cut,
was landing hard shots onfundora, who has a suspect chin
right and he has been knockeddown.
That tree has been chopped.
But also, uh, when you getknocked down, like fundora got
knocked down and you're gonnaget hit by, I mean like zoo got
(27:22):
knocked down and you're gonnaget get hit by, I mean like zoo
got knocked down and you'regoing to get hit by Fandora, I
think Fandora is going to takethis Cause.
Fandora knocked out the lastguy he bought too.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yeah, yeah, yep, and, and Fandora, fandora is coming,
no matter what.
Whether he gets knocked down ornot, you, he's only getting
better and I will say this,though I'm not trying to give
Zoo no chance Prior to the cut,and even with the cut, blinded
Zoo was landing hard shots andZoo does have real power.
(27:51):
But once Zoo gets clipped aftergetting knocked down, like that
which he is going to get byFundora, it's not going to end
well for him in my opinion, zoowas so hyped that's the fucked
up part.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
He was so hyped.
Before Fandora he was hyped Iforgot what Fighter was He'd
been hyped for a minute.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yeah, Zoo's real, but I can't take anything away from
Zoo man.
Nobody wants to fight Fandora.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Nobody wants to fight Fandora.
Remember Eric Spencer wastrying to put himself in there
he didn't fight nobody.
He didn't fight neither one ofthem.
He just put himself in themiddle of the Vandora and all
that Just come inside the ringlike he was going to fight
somebody.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
I'm so glad that shit didn't happen.
That's PBC, though, bro.
That's PBC, yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
I know when is Spence at.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
They were there.
Al Heyman's people were thereat the ring three fight too.
You're going to see some shit.
It's one thing I noticed andwe'll close out.
Let's get our prediction forZufandor, because that is a
really good fight.
I think Punch wanted toelaborate on that.
Yeah, go ahead.
Go off a little bit on yourtake on Zufandor.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Oh, no, no, I just wanted to talk about it.
I honestly don't know, bro,because everything you said I
have so many questions about itbecause I know Su can beat
Zufandor.
I know he can.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Now Can he now, Based off what he's been through?
Speaker 2 (29:22):
But my whole thing is that, because what I hate what
fighters do is when they lose afight, they're like oh, I only
lost to this guy because of thisone thing.
In this case, it's the cut Ifhe goes in and tries to fight
the exact same way, or if hetries to do a style that's not
his style, trying to bedifferent.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
I don't know.
My thing is, the only thing islike, yes, you're right, um, but
if, if fundora, once, once hegets, he's good, you're gonna
get cracked by fundora, likeyou're gonna have to take hits
by fundora and once that, oncethat brain gets jogged one more
time after what he's beenthrough, like they should have
rematched immediately, but oncethat brain gets jogged that one
(30:04):
more time, that's all she wrotefor for zoo, man well errol
spence fucked up that immediaterematch because he was supposed
to fight spence next and then itgot canceled.
So fundora went and foughtbakram yeah, it's true, but I'm
just saying that in regards tothis fight itself, based off
what, what we know, I just I seeZoo having early, early success
(30:27):
and then he's going to get hitby that long fucking beanstalk
like he did last fight, and nowit's all those horror story.
Memories are going to come back.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
And Zoo doesn't hurt him early.
I don't even mean knock him out, but if he doesn't hurt him
early he's not going mean knockhim out, but if he doesn't hurt
him early he's not going to win.
But even that the first fiverounds, the first five.
He landed a good shot againstFandora in that first fight.
He didn't hurt him.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
He has to hurt him.
You know what I mean.
He's got to drop him or rockhim, get his legs shaking.
Yeah, like disable.
A a hand, fundora's a dog,fundora's an avalanche that
keeps falling down.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
That's the whole point.
He throws a lot of punches too.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
In close.
What's your pick?
Speaker 2 (31:12):
I don't know.
This is a fight I can't pickbecause I honestly don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I'm going Fundora KO TKO.
I'm just going Fundora KO TKO.
Based off what I know.
I think he's in some troubleearly, but he is tough as shit.
Fandora, he's been knocked down, got up and did his thing.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
It's not that I see ways both of them can win, as
dumb as it sounds.
I see ways both of them canlose, if that makes any sense.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
What do you got Willie?
Speaker 1 (31:43):
I think this is gonna be the first 12 round fight for
them they're going 12 rounds.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
This fight.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
This is it's gonna go 12 uh, in closing slide,
tendencies 87 says fandora isanonymously.
Uh, it's that.
He's got the most insane reachever, but he fights on the
inside.
Yes, you're right, I agree, timzoo can win, but he to be
himself.
I hope he's learned from hispast.
I think he did learn from hispast, but once you get that
(32:07):
brain rattled, all those demonscome back from the depths.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Yeah, you can say that about both of them to be
honest.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Yes, true, true.
But I just feel like recentlyZoo had a real reality check.
You know, that's all.
Yeah, he lost real bad bro.
Yeah, Bad dad.
But hey, we got to close outthe show.
We are almost three hours inbro.
Yeah, we could have made it toAtlantic City, banged a hooker
and made it back.
God damn Yo Punch.
Always a pleasure.
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Thank you guys for having me.
Me and Punch literally saidyeah, we got to try to keep it
under hour Boom, three hourshere.
We are All good, though whocares?
We had great interactions.
Hopefully we keep that goingfor anyone still listening.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
This was a fucking fantastic live man.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Thanks for everybody for showing up.
Boxing is great.
Please like, follow, subscribeon everything.
We're more active on Instagram,but we're trying to push the
YouTube.
Youtube apparently has betterquality or whatever, so keep
doing your thing.
Punch will chat, willie, youknow, will always chat.
Yeah, that's it, y'all Peace.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Later, oh man.
Yo punch later, bro Wait.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Yeah, my bad guys, don't talk yet.
It's not your fault, god damnit.
End stream.
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