The Greatest Card in Years: From Lineup to Knockouts/Part 1 (2 Part Episode)

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
it's time for the main event.
It's the sparring podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Oh, it's a knockout I just did, it right, yo.
What up y'all?
Crazy boxing weekend.
We are here with punchlines andwillie yo uh, willie, willie
and I are a little tired.
We uh'm done.
You may have saw us on TV.
We're famous right Punch.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Bro, I definitely saw you all on TV.
I geeked the fuck out.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, we was right there.
So this weekend we were at.
We didn't go to the AmandaSerrano-Katie Taylor fight, but
we were at the Berlanga Shirazand Shakur card and thank God we
went, because what a fuckingcard it was it was worth it oh
so worth it probably the bestcard like this isn't even
hyperbole.
That's probably the best cardI've seen, beginning to end, to

(00:55):
be honest dude, I was gonna saythat definitely, like the the
past like three years, I'd say,beginning to end yeah, like that
was roller coaster bro that was.
That was insane dude, and youguys were right there, dude,
that's so fire.
Yeah, I'm very.
Look, I got my little.
We got a little ringside pass.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
It's crazy.
I was going to rock my shit.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
We're official.
I might sleep with this on Awhole box everything.
I'm not going to lie yo when,when you sit there like I've sat
we've sat ringside a bunch ofwell on the floor a bunch of
times you know Turk and hispromotion hook it up, you get
free ring magazines.
This is like a collector's item.
It came in like a specialcollector box.
Like it was pretty cool.

(01:35):
I got to give Turk that and youknow I don't usually, I don't
give Turk credit often, but thiscard really really cemented him
.
Okay, you're doing the rightthing.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, that's awesome that you guys got to experience
that.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
That's so sick so shout out to the ticket guy.
I don't want to say his name,Nah, nah.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Jim Boone man KO tickets.
If you need tickets, go to JimBoone.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
KO tickets.
Shout out to Jim Boone man,Cool guy, he was there.
Shout out to my other boy.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Tell them about.
We just got to recap the fightquick before we get into it.
But tell Punch and the fansabout the dude Nick next to us
All right.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
So Nick is some financial guy man.
He's a cool guy, but he broughtbinoculars to the guy you got
to describe him first.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
He's your typical New York City looking well-dressed,
very well-dressed, but I don'twant to say hipster, but like he
had like a, not a suit but likea half business casual outfit
on, uh, beige, with like thebrown socks, nice dress shoes,
and it was hot in there.
That was the only.
The only downfall was it wasreally hot in there yeah and he

(02:38):
kept the jacket on like nicecombed hair like glasses.
Nice guy, awesome guy, realboxing nerd bro, just like us.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
That's how you know you're a real New Yorker.
You don't even know how todrive.
He's almost 40.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Wait, he's how old he's at you were talking to him.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
He's like 40 years old, or almost 40, and he never
had a license.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
But yo, he did some shit that I'm sure you've never
seen.
I've never seen.
I don't think anybody's everseen this shit.
Go ahead, explain it.
He had binoculars.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Remember where we're sitting On the second row and
like high-tech binoculars so youcan zoom in, had two dial-ups.
Extra lenses is like I mightweigh, and he already got
glasses on.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
We didn't know why we're like yo.
This guy's a little weird,what's going on.
But Willie tried it.
Willie was like I got to trythis.
He knew his boxing dude.
It was crazy.
He knew his shit, it was cool,it was real cool as hell.
Willie asked me yo can I try?
What did you see?

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Willie, that's a different experience.
You could see every punch closeup.
I was staring at Shakur's face.
I was staring, I was like youknow, shakur, you see me, bro, I
see you, I see everything, Isee you.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Snap flowing out everywhere and like you're kind
of in the ring with them.
If you're that close and andyou know binoculars are like hd
vision, like it's, it's likelooking yeah so I see why he
does it, because that shit wascool as hell.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
I'm like yo wait, hold on, what are you doing?
He's like oh yo you never,tried it here.
I'm like yo that's and bro.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
I don't want to paint him as like a nerd because he
was cool as shit.
He was like a bot.
He was just a nerd because hewas cool as shit.
He was just a boxing nerd.
He was a nerd with his boxing,which is the people we like.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
It was awesome bro, yeah, but he went to Usyk.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Fury 1.
He said that was crazy.
Yeah, he went to the first one,right, he went by himself.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
I think it was in Saudi.
He went to Saudi to win theplace.
He was, by himself, saudi.
I think it was in Saudi.
Yeah, he went to.
Saudi to win the fight.
He was by himself too.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
I'm like yo, you are crazy, but let's talk about the
venue itself first, and then ourexperiences, and then we'll get
into the fights.
We have a lot to talk abouttoday, people.
It's probably going to go overan hour.
We're going to try and keep itas short and quick as we can,
but it's definitely going over.
Now there's too much to talkabout.
We're going to obviously talkabout the Serrano card.
We're going to talk about thecard of the year, probably or

(05:10):
maybe the century, you couldargue which was the one we
attended.
What we're talking about andthen we're going to preview this
coming Saturday is a full dayof boxing.
We're going to preview the mainfights on those cards as well.
But the venue itself for for ourlittle experience, our little
field trip, sparring took alittle field trip.
If you're just tuning in umthat venue, right at first going

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in, we heard about theshrinking ring, we heard all
this stuff and we're allthinking turk's gonna fuck it up
, turk's gonna fuck it up, bro.
That venue, every seat I'mlooking up, was a great seat.
And the reason why, I guessbecause when you're on a tennis
court, right, like when you goto a basketball game a hockey
game, not so much a baseballgame, that's kind of a point, a

(05:56):
good thing I just thought of.
Actually Like any other eventindoors, though, right, there's
always a jumbotron coming downand there's always blind spots,
so you're not going to see itall from all the seats if you're
sitting nosebleeds.
Right, dude, tennis, they hadit like on the walls.
Right, they had the screen likethe scores, whatever the fuck
you want called the jumbotronsor whatever the big screens on

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the walls, and there was noobstructions.
So it was like a dome.
You were like in a fishbowl.
It was almost like like somegladiator shit, like, yeah, you,
the ring was just in the middle.
And, dude, I'm looking around,I'm like yo, every seat is
perfect, like every seat you gotyour money worth every seat.
And then they did another coolthing and I think this was like
by accident, because the theworkers there aren't used to

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like boxing matches and liketennis.
Players play tennis and leave,right, everyone always mingles
after a boxing match.
You know, they kind of just letall the fans like come on down,
so like it it was.
It was actually probably notcool for the fighters and stuff
and the people it's a littledangerous.
Yeah, but, but it was, it wasgood to see like no, yeah, they

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didn't know.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
but they didn't know, yeah, they didn't know, but I
couldn't think of two moreopposite sports, to be honest,
yeah yeah, yeah, Total opposite.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
But I'm not going to lie, dude, I would 100% go to a
fight there again.
And even if we weren't sittingringside which I mean, obviously
we're going to try to, but ifwe weren't sitting ringside
there's so many, Every seat isgood, dude.
Every fucking seat was good,and we're not the only ones that
said that.
We're like wow, the only thingwas it was fucking steaming hot,
but you forget, you're outside.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah, I was going to say it was like the way it
looked on screen was that it wasoutside, but it was like the
perimeter of the stadium wasopen and then there was like a
is that like an architecturalroof thing.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
It looked like a tent , almost like a giant high
quality.
It kind of looked like it wasclosed, but you wasn't closed.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
You were still outside and then there was bugs
flying on this girl's head.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, yeah, yo, a bug flew in the ring and I've never
been to an outdoor pro fight,so that was kind of cool to see
they were flying.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
You know what I'm saying.
They probably was taking someShakur sweat.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
You know how I knew, though I really felt that we
were at a tennis when we wereordering drinks, right, Because
I imagine tennis fans don'tdrink boxing hooligans.
So I'm like we go get thedrinks.
Yo, the cups were tiny man,Same price, but tiny as hell.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
That was $20 a cup.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah, $20.
It wasn't a Dixie cup, but itwas like one up.
It was yeah Trash.
Another thing Turk did.
That was amazing.
Honestly, I'm Team Turk nowthis experience.
Yo, he's learning and he'sdoing the right things because
these fights got rolling, dude.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
He got rid of the fucking concerts, which was huge
.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yep Major, major, major major.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah, it wasn't that much downtime.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
No dude.
What was the first fight?
Was it Supriya?

Speaker 3 (08:56):
He's a guy who.
It was a Japanese guy.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
So we walked in.
We got there a little late, wedidn't get to see him, we.
So we walked in.
We got there a little late, wedidn't get to see him.
We walked in on him knockingthe dude out, yeah, and I kind
of figured that, because hedidn't get a knockout last time
and the ring is trying to pushhim.
His shorts were fire, thoughthose shorts were fucking fire,
was it?
no, subrio wasn't the main oneno it was Morel, it was Morel,
it was Morel, so it no.
So it's still daylight out andall of a sudden I'm like, oh

(09:23):
wait, that's the cat-tip guy.
He's coming out.
Holy shit it was early.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
And daylight.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
I'm like, oh, they're getting this rolling.
And it was good actually,because I got a good night's
sleep.
I got home, we ate, and I gothome at 2.30.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Oh yeah, we got home kind of early, 2.30, decided to
take the train late.
How?

Speaker 3 (09:43):
many people were there when that Morel fight was
on, because the fight beforethat, that bitch, was empty.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
So it was.
That's the only, I guess,downfall.
I guess boxing fans didn'treally expect to roll like that.
But, going forward, if he'sgoing to be in the boxing game
this long in America, get thereearly and see all the good
fights.
Because, yeah, it was fucking.
Yeah, people probably were justlate.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
They were coming in.
It was hella traffic rightthere too.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
That's another gripe, I guess.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
We got there at a decent time.
It was hella traffic Crazy.
You had to park at Cityfield Onthe way in, though they know it
was so close to Cityfield.
You could walk Right walkingdistance.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Right next door.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
I never even seen that building.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
I don't even know where that's at I still don't
even know where it's at.
I would, and everybody agreedwith me that went there 150%.
They should throw more boxingevents there.
Yeah, that was awesome, thatwas awesome.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
The only thing is, that thing is only at summertime
, probably.
Yeah, definitely yeah, youcouldn't do that shit in the
fall and winter Probably getpneumonia.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
But dude, it was sick .

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah, that show was crazy.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
So we went and again, this is going to be a longer
show because we're going to talkabout our experience and then
chop up the fights and go intodetail.
We went and we rose our myfirst ever co-host is why the
sparring started my good, dearfriend Fossil His name is
actually Fossil we rose him fromthe dead.

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He came.
He's a real boxing fan too.
I got to give him some credit.
He was so starstruck Willie andI we're still starstruck, but
we just got used to it in asense I'm used to just going up
to them now yeah.
We were like yo, fossil, can youtake a picture?
Was it?
Who?
Was it who?
Oh, it was fucking AbdullahMason.
Yeah, we're like yo, fossil,can you take a picture of us, of

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Abdullah Mason?
He was like nervous, fumblingthe phone.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yo chill, take the, but I get it it was good to see
like he had a good time thoughall the fighters and all the
fighters, every single one ofthem.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
I ain't gonna lie.
Shout out to y'all yardy.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yo anthony yarder.
Cool, I was about to have adance battle with him like I'm a
I'm a benavides fan.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Right, you are too.
We all are benavides fans.
Uh, after you're not, you'renot a fan.
No, no, okay.
But like after meeting yarday,right, like I never met
benavides, I just I like thathe's a dog in the ring, I kind
of like that, that's what I'msaying.
After meeting and I always rootfor the American, but after

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meeting Yardé it's going to behard because, dude, he was so
cool, cool as shit he actuallysaid he might come on the show.
Actually, the three fighterssaid three big-time fighters
said he might come on the show.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Actually, the three fighters said three big-time
fighters said they might come onthe show.
When they said talk to themanagers.
Yeah, that's what I guess, yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Also, too, brian Norman Jr was there.
He actually when we wereleaving.
He's like yo, what's yourpodcast?
I'm going to hit him up and tryto get him on the show Again.
No promises, I don't know.
They don't owe us nothing.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
No, yeah, definitely I think Brian would definitely
come on he actually like yo.
He made shows.
Like what podcast.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah, he was.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
He probably seen it.
He probably.
Yeah, I noticed he's looked atour stuff too.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
If it Kirk didn't think about or maybe he did
because he loves the drama wasthe seating assignments.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Oh yeah, no, the drama, yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
No, they did a smart good-ass job.
Yeah, it worked.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
They loved the drama but then I did not know Remy Ma
was out there.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, she was out there.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Walking out.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
I did not know, I did not see her.
Bro and Clarissa was there.
I thought they were justoverplaying the song.
So you know the drama with thatright, the Remy Ma and Clarissa
Shields drama.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
I can't keep up with everybody.
Clarissa True.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
That's totally true.
Well, you know, Papoose andClarissa's together.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
And.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Remy, ma and Papoose was together and shit, and you
know they got this whole fakebeef.
Well, they got real beef.
I guess you know talking shitto each other and all that.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
It's like rat beef, yeah, well, pretty much they got
a boyfriend in common.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah, a man in common .

Speaker 2 (13:53):
They just left each other for different
relationships, but they bothwere like talking a lot of shit
going back and forth.
Well, actually Remy Ma was justtalking a lot of shit going
back and forth and thensomething happened.
I guess they have a kid incommon, Papoose and her Long
story short.
It hit the real tabloids, ithit the real world.
It was all over the media andshe was there.
I guess she's from Queens,right, is she from Queens?

Speaker 1 (14:15):
I forgot where she's from.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Whatever she's from New York, but Clarissa was there
.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
She's Nas.
Nas is for sure from Queens.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, I think she might be from Queens.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
But she's Terra Squad , so she was going to be there.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
anyway, it was Clarissa's show.
It was Remy Ma's hometown butClarissa's house, because she's
a real boxer, obviously.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
When you're surrounded by boxers she was in
Clarissa's domain, for sure.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
But they had Remy on the other side of the ring and
her and Schiltz was on our side.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
What is Remy going to do anyway?
What is she?

Speaker 2 (14:51):
going to do to Clarissa Schiltz bro.
She is a little hood though Inthe streets.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Clarissa is not hood.
No, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Clarissa is hood?

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah, but when you're hood, no, no, no, no, no, no.
We talking about a shoe orsomething when you're home.
Hood, you gotta stay in yourhood.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
You can't go hood for hood.
Carissa might snub somebody,but she might get jailed just
because her hands is illegalright.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
That's not a real thing.
That's not a real thing.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
I thought that was real the whole time.
That's like my fucker% C-Redbro.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
That shit ain't real.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
It might not help like a court case, but it's not
real.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Oh, I thought that was a real thing, man.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
But nah.
So not only those seats, though, but then go ahead.
Will you tell them who we werein the middle of?
So behind us?

Speaker 1 (15:39):
I'll oh shit.
Yeah, we was in the middle of.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
So Brian Norman Jr was to our right, to our right.
We had.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
They had him that close to Haney.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah so.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Richardson Hitchens is right behind us, right behind
us.
Haney is just to the left.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
So we're like, I'm sitting there and I'm like we're
in the middle of a trianglelove thing going on.
I'm like what?

Speaker 2 (16:00):
the fuck.
I stood up I said I'm too whitefor this shit.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
I'm too white for this shit, and then Debo not too
far.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, tell them about Debo yeah well, we nicknamed
him Debo.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
What happened last?
What he did to Brian Norman?

Speaker 2 (16:13):
He don't know, debo, that was.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Devin Haney's security guard.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Bro, so have you I think his name's Tank.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
I'm not going to lie to you, it is.
Someone said that and I waslike wait, oh, that's Tank.
I think it was Tank or Truck orTurk, not Turk, I'm dead.
I did hear.
I'm glad you brought that upbecause I forgot what his actual
nickname was.
His new name is Debo, butWillie called him Debo and he
asked Haney, he's like yo, can Iget a picture with Debo?
And then Haney had aninteraction and he asked he's

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like you can ask him, you canask him.
So Willie asked him he's likeyo, devo, can I get a picture?
He just yo.
He stood the whole fuckingfight.
I don't know how he was allowedin there.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
He stood have you ever seen Game of Thrones?

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yeah, kind of but you a character in Game of Thrones,
right, she's like the I don'tknow the hot blonde princess.
She actually winds up bangingher brother or something.
But whatever, khaleesi NotKhaleesi, no, she bangs her
brother too.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah, why are you watching this?
This is a bunch of incest.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
I hate that show I got to just say this analogy,
though, because it's so good, Iforget the chicken Game of
Thrones.
Whatever she gets this guyright, the security guard right.
Basically, they bring him backfrom the dead.
And his name was the Mountainbefore that and he was just
fucking everybody up, right, thedude that killed Pedro Pascal.
Yeah, yeah, the Mountain, theMountain.

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He's fucking killed everybody.
They bring him back from thedead, right.
His job now is just to standthere and protect Cersei.
Whatever One of the bigwigsProtect Cersei.
That's what it looked like withHaney.
This dude, deebo bro, was juststanding the whole time and he's
just there to protect Haney.

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And then they tried to getHaney out of there.
He walked, bro.
He had the gloves on with thehard plastic like the work
gloves.
Yeah, I'm like bro in a plaidshirt.
I'm like who the fuck is thisguy?

Speaker 1 (18:11):
he's just standing the whole fight, plaid flannel
have.
That was definitely I had tocall debo.
I'm like, yeah, that's I gottagive.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
I gotta give brian norman jr props, though, because
he wore a white t-shirt again.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
I got a million of these.
I'm like, bro, you need to makea white t-shirt brand.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
I've heard some crazy stories about that Tank guy.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Dude, he's a I don't want to say he's emotionally
disturbed, but I'm saying Iwould not fight that guy Even if
I knew I could beat him.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
I would not fight that guy, Even if I knew I could
beat him.
I would not fight that guy.
That shit was so funny becauseI said that shit and Devin
started dying laughing he saidDevo.
Oh, he started laughing.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Willie asked him for a picture.
He goes sorry, devin's likesorry, he's weird like that.
He gets weird like that.
He's like yo ask him, ask him.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
I'm like yo, yo he looked was crazy.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
I'm like what the he's like you think it's an act,
you think he's just like doingit?
Nah, bro.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
I would he's famous.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Now, bro, he's low-key famous now.
I would, I would, he could makeit a whole thing.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
If that video didn't go viral before with the Brian
Norman Jr, I'd say it's an act.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
But yo he yeah that dude's knocked people out just
for talking shit to Haney atlike Top Rank Gym.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
I'm glad.
I'm so glad I stayed sober forthis fight.
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
So happy I stayed sober, but Devin was cool as
hell.
I ain't gonna lie, he wastalking to us, and then he was
talking to Richard and all that.
Yeah, he was just cool and.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
I talk—this is my problem with, like, with going
to these fights and and as you,you could, you could agree with
this Like, when we talk and giveopinions, man, it's just what
we see in the clips people chopup, but then when you actually
meet them as a person, so like,I got to just let let that out,
because every fighter I meet,for the most part there's a few
that are a-holes, but most ofthe fighters I meet I'd say

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about 80% of them aren't a-holesand you know, when we talk,
it's just the clips people chopup and them interacting with
other fighters, so we form anopinion and speak about it.
Yeah, we don't like him BecauseI've talked a lot of shit about
Haney and he's actually not abad guy.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
He's actually somebody I'd probably get along
with and hang out with and getalong with and hang out with and
.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Bill are both really cool.
Yeah, Bill actually is thecoolest, one of the coolest guys
I've ever met.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
He talk wild shit, and then next thing you be like
yo King da-da-da.
He be like shake your hand andall that shit.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
But, honestly, being to a lot of fights and then
we're gonna get into the fightsooner or later but being to a
lot of fights and mingling withfighters sitting where we sit
and stuff I'm not braggingthat's why we do it.
It's to mingle with thefighters, that's why we do it.
Richardson Hitchens is by farone of the coolest dudes

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fighter-wise I've ever met, bro,he was sitting with us, talking
with us, giving us his opinionand like bro, he was sitting
with us, talking with us, givingus his opinion.
Asking us yeah, asking y'all'sopinion too.
And, like bro, two guys on hisradar, pueyo versus Matias.
He's watching it live with us.
So it was like chilling, withanother belt holder watching a

(21:17):
live fight and getting a guythat could fight him fight one
of them.
His perspective was I was in anon-gay way, I was rock hard.
Like it was amazing.
It was good.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
And he said that's what he said, either one of them
, that's what he said Either oneof them so I overheard him
talking to somebody behind me.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
I got really big, goofy Italian ears and I
overheard him talking and theywere like oh, they were like
what's next for you?
And he was like either Tiafimoor one of these two and that's
awesome, that's good for thefight fans man.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
Well, it ain't one of them two.
Now we know that.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
What do you mean?
What happened?

Speaker 3 (21:56):
What do you mean?
What happened bro?
Turkey never.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Oh, yeah, yeah, I forgot.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Dalton.
Dalton or whatever We'll get toperky punk the fuck out of
Matias bro.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah, that's true, dalton, fucking.
Actually we didn't.
You need to explain that whenwe get to it, because we were
there live and we didn't reallyhear the when you're live, you
don't really hear.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
I didn't see them.
After every fight we went to goget drinks, yeah that's right,
or went to take bitches.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
That's another thing, another vantage point that I
got Y'all are other than howelectric and amazing that card
was y'all are so lucky youdidn't have to listen to the
commentary.
Bro, If I ever have to listento Sergio Mora and Antonio
Tarver again, I'm going tofucking shoot myself.
So.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Sergio Mora with me right.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Sergio Mora, you're not the only one that said that.
My cousin said it.
I showed you the text.
I showed you the text.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
He's like yo horrible and Sergio Mora will make a
good take, but when it's aLatino fighter versus anybody
else, I'm like dude, come on.
I get it Like everyone has animplicit bias, but come on bro.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Like, come on bro, like what the fuck man?
I want to see what my cousin isat.
And Tarver was like I don'tknow.
Tarver's got to be the smartestguy on the broadcast.
And then, to top it off, theyhave Mannix.
It was just like.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
You know who's really good, who was on, and we're
going to talk about it too.
We're just going to go on arant.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Whatever?

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, uh-huh, hey, you called it like he, he is
really, really, really, reallygood at commentating man he
called that bum ass.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Ref out too on the, on the I'm glad I did.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
I want to see, I want to see andre ward, paulie
malinaggi and I and you couldthrow jim lampley in there too,
man, and I know know he rambleson sometimes, but you need him.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Get Gus Bradley calling fights again.
Yeah yeah Go ahead Amazingfight announcer.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
My cousin Justin said Antonio Tarver is calling this
fight horribly yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Awful.
You know who's another guy andagain, I speak on him a lot he's
a friend of mine.
But Steve Kim, he's veryopinionated and a little
forceful with it, but when he'scalling a fight, bro, he doesn't
hold back.
He don't care if he's yourfriend.
So that's what you want.
You want, I guess, an expert'sopinion and don't hold back.

(24:22):
You know who else is reallygood.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Just last thing Go ahead.
The fighter, Michael Fox.
He calls these local fightsthat are on TV in the DMV area.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
He's really good, very good.
I have to look him up.
I thought you were talkingabout someone else.
I'm going to have to look himup then.
No, the guy that just fought BoHachuk.
Oh, you are talking about him.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
Yeah, yeah, really I've never heard him on on the
announcements.
So well he does.
Local fights in the in the pmvarea, like the I think it's the
same cards that he fights on outthere, those the the jeter
promotion that are like inmaryland he'll call for
sometimes.
He does a very good job that'ssick.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
I'm gonna have to look that up because I didn't.
I didn't even know he had thatto him, so that's awesome,
you're very good, I have onemore person, though.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
We had that to him, so that's awesome, he's very
good.
I have one more person, though.
We had the you know, saying hisvery special heart to my heart,
oh God.
That was sitting right directlybehind me.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Oh yeah, I share that .

Speaker 1 (25:14):
I really like manifest that.
I think because I was like yoif she you were in a pickle,
willie, you were in a pickle.
I was kind of so not really,not really, because Alicia
Baumgartner was right there withher beautiful self man.
She was right behind the shipwith my hand.
You know, I smelt my handafterwards, kind of weird.

(25:35):
I didn't want to wash my hand,but she was mad, cool, chill she
was who else?

Speaker 2 (25:41):
There's a lot.
Amari Cooper was there.
He was in good spirits.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Oh man Streamers.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Sneeko, my boy Sneeko , I be watching this shit.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Who's the bodega guy?

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Oh the awkward there.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
This is funny, yo, you're the only the awkward
there.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
You know the awkward, you know the awkward he be like
yeah.
And he had everybody come inthere and make their own chopped
cheese or whatever they want.
The Aki way, yeah, Aki Dudethis is like what is that water.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
No, bro, this is, I'm sorry, off subject, but I'm
drinking beer today.
I usually drink tequila, but Iwas like you know, I haven't had
beer in a while and I'm feelingtoo skinny.
Let me pump this gut up.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
I got drunk last pot I did with y'all and I haven't
had a sip since, Not even halfan hour I could tell.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
You were drunk last pot.
Yeah, towards the end, though,I could tell he was like we were
rambling.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
I'm like this guy's drunk.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
I had four of those cut two days I you know I'm not
gonna lie like I'm all over theplace, but this podcast, like
brings, I look forward to justdrinking and talking about
boxing like that's like it'sgonna sound really, really,
really pathetic.
That was been like my dream inlife.
So so, whatever happens, goingforward I've achieved.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
My dream is to do something around like what they
love the most bro but this isvery like, we're very game of
thrones.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
I just realized I'm drinking stormborn beer by sand
city brewing co and it'sactually long island, north port
.
I was feeling.
I was feeling like different.
I was like, oh, that's a cool.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
I didn't even read it , where their logo almost looks
like a saw blade or somethingyeah, yeah, yeah, that's them
yeah, my, one of the guys I wasmaybe with.
He was always asking me to sendsome of that shit out there to
him when I lived there.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Really Look how cool this can is.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
Long Island to get that for you.
Let me see it.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
I can't see, I don't know if I can hold it close
enough Dude you're like the dickon my screen, sorry.
It's a really cool, can I'llsend you a picture.
Picture, but really good beertoo.
Sand city brewing in longisland, oh you didn't get a
drink.
Yeah, yeah that's how I thinkthat sounds too.
But grab your shit.
But yeah, bro, back to boxing.
Sorry, um, again, we're allover the fucking place.
Crazy, crazy, crazy.

(27:55):
Good experience, fun time, uh,and what made it even better was
the fights itself.
Let's get right into it.
I will.
Uh, actually, before we getright into it, let's talk about
friday.
We get right into it.
Let's talk about Friday nightfirst.
I'm not going to go over theentire female card.
Listen, female boxing is whatit is.
It's very talented females.
A lot of them have the sameattributes physically, so the

(28:20):
power, and there's a lot ofequalness in female boxing.
So it is what it is.
The card was a littlelackluster.
There was one major upset.
We got to speak on Willie.
I called it Willie.
Willie hit that one on thefucking head.
Go ahead, willie.
Tell him.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Sadesha, how you say her name?
Sadesha Sadesha Green?
How'd you not know that?
I don't know how that shit is aghetto ass name.
I ain't gonna lie.
Yeah, but this was uh crazybecause she was in there with a
tough competitor.
She, the girl, was.
Where was she fought?
Uh, she fought both.
Uh, carissa and um who else itwas?

(28:58):
Uh, she fought, carissa and um,who Dizern?

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yeah, cruz Dizern, she fought, she fought she
fought tough people.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Who the fuck is she with?
It was Carissa and somebodyelse, right.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
I'm having a brain fart.
I'm having a brain fart too.
But whatever, just speak on thefight.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Yeah well, oh, shadeja came back.
She was losing the beginning ofthe fight, but she definitely
came back along.
She came back along early inthe fight, though it was like
fourth round maybe.
She started taking overcountering.
I'm like yo, she's slick, she'sslick and she was catching them
early.
I was like yo, I didn't know inthe beginning of the fight how

(29:39):
I was going to pan out, becausewe knew how tough the girl was
Minus no, plus, she was plus 400.
And it ended up some dude waslike he hit me up.
Like yo, I'll tell your bet.
Whatever case, it is.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
He called it live.
Shout out to this dude TapatioCombate.
He started following us becausewhen we first started, we were
doing a lot of gambling andbetting.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
I'm telling you, it's Tapatio.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
I swear, oh, first started we were doing a lot of
like gambling and betting.
I'm telling you it's tapatio.
I swear, oh, yeah, same guy Ishouted out before I'm not gonna
shout him out again.
But he he texted me.
He was like about the pics Ireposted and I was like, oh
that's my co-host willie, so hehit willie up.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Yo shout out to that guy bro yeah, he's, oh, he's
cool as hell bro um he, hecaught it live at like yo he
bets on boxing like yo.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Give him a follow.
He bets on boxing a lot.
He don't really post much, butpick his brain.
He's a boxing gambler, which iscool to see.
That was a big upset.
Willie's parlay.
Willie's parlay almost hit manAlmost hit man Bullshit.
We would have went out afterthis fight if it hit.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Yeah right.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Yo fuck, you were one leg off, weren't you?
Yeah, I should have cashed out.
What was it?
Six leg.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Six leg parlay, something like that.
I don't even remember.
Honestly, now I was justputting me parlay, but a six leg
parlay with a plus 400 pick onit is crazy.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
And he was one off on a minus 200 and something.
And we're going to get rightinto Amanda Serrano versus Katie
Taylor III Before we startroasting people and giving our
emphatic opinions.
Listen, I've been to MSG amillion times.
That's like our home base,right, the main room.

(31:15):
Whether it's their fault or acombination of everything like
we talked about on last episode,they fucking sold out the main
room together.
All right, it was no one elsethat sold out the main room and
they did that as female boxersand, as everyone knows, female
boxing is not boxing itself isnot very popular to regular the

(31:36):
regular Americans right now.
So the fanatics yes, femaleboxing is much lower bro they
filled every seat it looked likeit anyway in the main room.
I don't know what the numberswere, but that place was fucking
electric.
we loud loud and we spoke to afew of our little podcast
cronies, the everyone run around.

(31:57):
They were like yo, where wereyou guys?
That place was crazy.
So we gotta we gotta give themtheir props where it's due.
But that's what happens whenthe best fight the best, and I
will say it was a verylackluster fight.
Punch, go ahead.
What did you think about it?
Don't be too mean.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
No, I'm not going to be mean.
I was frustrated because it'slike the first two fights were
amazing, which credits to themfor that.
So it set our expectations highfor this third one.
The first two fights wereamazing, which credits to them
for that.
So it set our expectations highfor this third one.
Uh, I think they knew eachother too well.
I think, uh, amanda's powermade Katie timid.

(32:35):
Uh, uh, maybe Katie's head fromthe last fight made in
Manitowoc, I don't know, butAmanda is the same thing Willie
was griping about, like don'twear those Jordanda is the same
thing willie was griping about,like don't wear those jordans,
and she looks yeah looks slow.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
I angles were bad all night yep, and that that also
could be like the footwork, likegetting angles as footwork.
Not that she has bad feet orslow feet, but like the shoes
yeah, and the shoot jordan ones.
They're for like skateboarding,bro, and they're heavy like.
I know they were made forbasketball but they're not made

(33:10):
for cutting and stuff.
They're jordan one.
They're not even made forbasketball.
Yeah, jordan's been out forever, like converse is.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
They're basically a converse soul like she should
have just did.
What belanga did?
You see his fives?

Speaker 3 (33:23):
oh man, I'm just yeah , I turned off the tsSDK
conference for making those, bythe way.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Those were fire shoes .
One of Belanga's fans actuallyoff topic, Well, not off topic,
but the guy sitting to the left,Willie, was like damn, you got
the fives on, Bro.
This guy was a Belanga diehard.
He only came for the Belangafight.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
I think it was his cousins, though oh, was it his
cousins?
It must have been somebody,Because they knew everything.
They knew where he got him fromand everything what he said.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
They sat right next to us.
They only came for Belanga.
Those are pricey seats, so yeah, it must have been family.
And then left.
They were like.
Willie was like oh damn, he gotthe fives on and these dudes
are like yo.
Those are the boxing fives.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Blah, blah, blah.
Boxing fives.
Those are not no regular fives,they're the boxing fives.
They were cool.
He's awesome.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
I actually got him signed to Adams as well, so he's
going to start customizing alot of our shoes, but he's a
great dude.
He's really good at what hedoes.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Bro, he's tat.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
He did a great job with those.
Those were cool.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Back to Amanda yeah, Listen, I'm just going to.
She chose a bad.
There's a bunch of things Ithink went wrong One.
She chose a bad spot, a badtime to change her style up or
do a switch up.
I understand the team wastrying to make something
different, but you can't fightan Olympic gold medalist in an

(34:51):
Olympic style when that's notyour style.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
She also not only did she change her style for that
fight, but when it wasn'tworking, because it wasn't, she
didn't change her style in thefight she kept doing the same,
like she was so predictable,katie, would her escape to her
left, to katie's left, amanda'sright, the whole fight?
Yep, because she knew what youwere doing, because you would do

(35:15):
the same things.
Like, yeah, I was losing mymind, because it was like if she
would just faint and then stepto cut katie off and throw, or
at least a right hook every nowand then, like you just came in
with them straight shit.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Or just chin down and brawl like you have in the past
two fights where you hadsuccess.
Yeah, and another thing, though, based off that, is it's hard
to do that when you're such goodfriends with your opponent and
after two wars that they had,it's kind of like a Torogati war
After two wars like that, whenyou have you, you gain a bond,

(35:49):
like like we went to war twice,like I, I love she literally
couldn't talk shit.
Yeah, she literally could nottalk any shit during the press
up any of this fight and thenyou add, you add the element of
how much money they've made offthose two.
It's it's hard to get up forfights.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
I was so pissed off.
When she's sitting there tryingto outbox a boxer bro, that's
not just a boxer.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
You moved up two weight classes.
You're fighting an Olympic goldmedalist and you arguably, in
my opinion, won both of thefights prior to that, but you
took an L and they were close.
They were close, and now you'regoing to change your style in
something that worked and try tolike out.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Point her.
I don't understand Was the game, how the game plan, turned into
brawling and roughing up toshadowboxing yourself, like you
shadowboxing in the middle ofthe ring.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
I don't get it, shame on her corner too, for not,
yeah, just don't want to outthere, or maybe they did I don't
know I, but I had a watch on mydamn phone.
No, in in the corner, he kepttelling her.
He kept telling her throw thatstupid ass.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Fucking one, two, yeah and dude she was someone I
know you posted a funny meme,but someone posted she was
shadow boxing and again I, I, II'm not trying to roast, am
Serrano, I'm just calling what Isaw Because I do.
She's one of my, she brought,she put Her, and Katie Taylor
and Jake Paul have put femaleboxing in a place it hasn't been

(37:13):
in years, years.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yeah, arguably one of the best ever in boxes that we
ever seen or ever.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
Arguably ever.
I'm with you, though I don'twant to sound like we're just so
disappointed in Amanda, becauseyou know what.
Katie was in great shape for 10rounds, and when Amanda would
get her on the ropes or in thecorner she'd fight out of it.
She'd win those changes andthen get out.
You've got to give Katie herprops.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
He's piecing them up like four times in a row, Like
yeah.
Like she's throwing, likefucking four to three.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
I was watching with a non-boxing fan.
He's like dude, that Irishbitch is fucking fast.
Come on, man, don't call her abitch.
He was like dude, she's soquick I can't see.
I was watching.
I'm like I never realized howactually fast Katie Taylor was.
Bro, she's fast, she'd get outof there.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
She moves Her feet move she's.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Olympic, she's a gold medal.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
She was sitting there check-hooking every time, or
she would throw the right.
Wait is the right.
Was she a Southpaw?
She's.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Orthodox, she's Orthodox.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
So she was throwing the right on the way out,
catching Amanda Sorrento whileshe's going her way that she
needs her to go.
She controlled everything aboutthat fight.
Katie controlled everythingabout that fight.
I feel like they just didn'twant to fight no more.
They were like yo, this is thelast one.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
I think after the wars they were.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
Katie denied the three-minute rounds.
Amanda was like yo, I'm justdone Again.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Go ahead.
Well, I was curious about thatbecause he brought up the
three-minute rounds.
The fight flew by.
All of them did.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Yeah, all of them.
So.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
I was like, obviously the two-minute round speeds up
the fight.
But I was curious, so I reachedout to BBG.
I was like, hey, if, like youknow, you've had a bunch of
fights Like, the two-minuteround obviously speeds it up.
But does it speed your brain uptoo?
Does it make it harder to makereads?
It has to, it has to yeah.
And she was like yeah.

(39:19):
She was like it definitelyspeeds it up.
She goes I feel like if amandastuck to a style closer to the
first, the first two, yeah, itwould have been a lot better for
him so of course, of course yougot a brawl, but again shout
out to baby girl for telling methat tell the fans who baby girl
is

Speaker 1 (39:41):
danny ryan boy team michaela meyer over here.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Team alicia but but listen, listen, um, listen to
that exchange we just had,though, listen to the exchange
we just had, and I want to talkabout this.
My, my wife asked me she goestoday, she goes, layla, aliissa
Shields, who would win?
And I was like, think about howfar women's boxing has come.

(40:08):
My wife, she hates boxingbecause it fucks up our
relationship.
She hates boxing.
And she literally said I got toask me that, like 10 years ago,
15 years ago, you'd never hearthat question, ever You'd never
hear that question.
You'd never hear that question,ever You'd never hear that
question.
So, props to all these females.
Props to Amanda Serrano, katieTaylor, clarissa Shields, your

(40:30):
baby girl, sandy Ryan, aliciaBunga, my baby girl, my future
ex-wife, michaela Meyer.
Shout out to all these things,because we're talking about
women's boxing, bro, and that'sa win in itself for everybody.
Yeah, shout out to.
Sugar Neeks Shout out to all ofthem.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Shanika.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
Johnson.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Shanika.
No, she got the craziest blackname.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
And you know what my answer to her was?
I was like, listen, layla Aliwas great for her time and I
hate the arguments of the greatsnow versus the greats of the
past, because a lot goes into it.
You what I mean?
I hate that argument actually.
I hate all sports for allsports.
I, I fucking hate that argumentlike nothing else.
But I will say this the talentlevel now for females is way,

(41:15):
way better and more competitivethan it was back then.
That's all.
I'm not picking someone, butthat that's all I'm gonna say
but yeah, mma too like.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
Look at the women fighters now compared to when
like.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Ronda.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
Rousey, or even Gina Carano was champion.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yeah, bro, all sports , every sport.
You can't name a sport.
You know what I mean, it's justdifferent eras.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Layla looked good though, bro.
She is healthy bro.
I don't know.
She's definitely not going towin, not going to win.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Did you guys see what she said over the weekend too?
Because they asked about if shewould come out of retirement.
Lots of money 15 to 20 million,which is not going to happen.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
I'm not trying to hate on Layla Ali, though, but
if her name was Layla Puma inthat era, in that time, would we
be talking about her like this?
She don't need to be coming outof retirement anyway.
No, no, no, and there's nothingagainst her, I'm just saying
and unfortunately, she'sextremely talented.
She was a professional thatname.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
No, she might need to come out.
I ain't going to lie Now thatyou're thinking about it?

Speaker 3 (42:16):
no, Because the men is doing it, bro.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
The men is doing it.
You might as well let theladies do it too.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
The talent differential is crazy.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Clarissa is so fucking good, don't fight
Clarissa though.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
That's the only one she's coming out for Clarissa's.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
So good, clarissa, she ain't gonna fight fucking.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Clarissa Shields is.
I need to attest to this.
She is so fucking good bro.
But yeah, you know, again thisis to be a long show, so bear
with us if you're listening inyour car that you missed your
payment on.
But again, uh, amanda serrano,katie taylor what's next for

(42:58):
them?
Listen.
Amanda dared to be great.
She moved up two weight classes.
I think she takes a long break.
She has lots of money now.
I think she still fucks shit upin one weight class under and
one below that.
I really think she still fucksshit up.
And for Katie Taylor, I'm okaywith her retiring.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if they both retired,
to be honest, or that I'm okaywith it.
I'm okay with it, unless Katiegets what was that fight at 147?
Yeah, yeah, unless they offerher a bag to fight like Mikaela
or the Chantel trilogy.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
I don't know, though.
I think it's almost time topass the torch.
136.
I think it's time to pass thetorch, in a sense, 136.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
I think it's time to pass the torch in a sense, yeah,
yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
What is the weight class there, though?
Is it 136?
.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
I have no clue, bro, I don't even know the weight
classes.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
And the last thing on the women's boxing and stuff, I
just want to say they shouldmake it three-minute rounds and
just make the gloves like whatdo they fight?
10?
Or, I'm sorry, 8 ounces.
Right, just make them like 10ounces or whatever ounce gloves
women's fighters fight at.
Make them two ounces up, I'mokay with that, just make them
three-minute rounds.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
Or just make them 10 rounds instead of 12.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Yeah, three-minute rounds, 10 rounds.
I think they were just makes.
Uh, make them 10 rounds insteadof 12.
Yeah, three minute rounds, 10rounds, not.
No, I think it is, is it?
I think?

Speaker 1 (44:29):
it is 10, I think, like one fight was three minutes
, though on that call it is 10minutes, it is 10 rounds, so
they shouldn't like.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
Amanda fought 12 three minute rounds, I'm pretty
sure did she I could be wrong.
I know she fought three minuterounds once, but I you know like
the first time ever, I think.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
I do remember that, I think that one other girl did
it too on the card, though shewas like on the card.
Oh yeah, dania Ramos, it went12 rounds, three-minute rounds,
that's good, good for her, butthey should just I don't know
figure something out.
Make it like you're right, makeit 12 rounds, I don't know
something.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
A little more because We've been wanting to do it,
though.
Why you just don't give themwhat they want to do?

Speaker 2 (45:09):
And just keep making the best, fight the best,
because, listen, there's great,great great now women athletes
or women boxers, so just keep itrolling, but all right we are
Now to the all-men card, thereal shit.
Yeah, this is going to be along show.
Willie get your legs ready andyour ass, because this is going

(45:30):
to be a long show.
It's going to be hurting onthis fucking chair.
We're already 45 minutes in.
All right, let's get in.
Damn, really.
No, no, it's not your bed, bro.
We had so much to chop up andagain, I love it and I know
we're going to lose you duringthe football season.
So it's okay, we're just goingto go.
We're going to keep it rollingSaturday night, let's get into

(45:53):
it.
A little recap of, like wealluded in the beginning of the
show the greatest card, I thinkdefinitely the full card top to
bottom.
Last 10 years.
You could argue 20 full cardtop to bottom.
Last 10 years.
You could argue 20 years top tobottom.
This is, this is this is one ofthe greatest cards.
Maybe you could go 30 years topto bottom and you.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
You know what.
I want to point this outbecause we got that big card
back in february, with which onethe the one with like, uh, the
b-bowl better be a rematch, theone that had, like virgil ortiz
mademov and uh, like josephparker and okoli, that one okay,
yeah we got that one.
Back in february.
We got the new york city shit.

(46:39):
Even though it flopped, we goteven the jakecard was good.
Boxing fans are loving thecards we're getting right now.
Ufc fans do not.
When was?

Speaker 2 (46:50):
the last time you heard that Boxing is getting
better cards top to bottom thanthe UFC is, and you have to
thank Turk for that, becauseeven when the fights are in
Saudi, there's still some reallygood cards, so you have to
thank Turk for that.
Even when the fights are inSaudi, there's still some really
good cards, so you have tothank Turk for that and listen.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Shout out to the ring .
There's a reason.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Behind the scenes I heard some grumblings.
There's a reason Dana White isdipping his toe in boxing and
following the Turk money.
There's a reason for that.
What are you trying?
To say, and you know what yousee fans're complaining about
that yeah, what do you meancomplaining about, like about
dana, just switching sides, orso well, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
So like my best friend, the the one, that's a
comedian.
He did jujitsu in vegas and heused to party with like charles
olivera and stuff, so he knowslike a bunch of ufc fighters, so
he's a big u, but he's likedude.
When we do get a good card,it's in fucking Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
He's like well, welcome to the club.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Yo, quick shout out, quick shout out to Four Corners,
our guys, four Corners Boxing.
You know who they are.
You've seen them before.
They're all over the place theygo, are you?
You've seen them before?
They're all yeah, they're allover the place.
They go to every fight.
He just said boxing over mma,any day of the week and twice on
sunday.
And and you know, as boxingfans, I agree, I agree with that

(48:14):
totally.
But I will say this is noslight to the mma fans.
We're just being boxing.
It's like it's just a differentsport yeah, I'm hating on mma.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
What I'm saying is like, like mma, the product that
they've been getting from theufc for years has been fantastic
.
In boxing it hasn't been, andwe're finally getting a good
product and like it seems likepay-per-view wise we we haven't
surpassed them, but quality ofcards we're getting as fans I
feel like this year at leastwe're ahead of them for sure, a

(48:44):
hundred percent, and especiallyif you follow those sports Like
I'm going to speak on it later,I'm not going to try and go too
crazy with it, though I have aweird.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
You know what's crazy ?
Ufc fighters are changing theirstyle.
There's a lot of people who'sfighting up and standing up Like
they're not even and throwingpunches to the body and shit.
Yeah, they throwing bodypunches.
I forgot what the last dudefought a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
What's his name?

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Crazy good boxer.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Eddie Reynoso.
He trains with Eddie ReynosoThrowing a combination of his
body.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Yeah, they starting not to grab as much.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Ufc's starting to become mma is like it's a great
sport, it's like a one style.
Now.
I don't hate whenever someoneasks me, like a lot of my
friends and I work with andstuff are huge mma guys.
And whenever they ask me likewho, who's your, uh, what's it
called?
Whenever they're like, oh, doyou do watch, mma, do you do?

(49:43):
Does your podcast do, mma?
If they don't listen, I'm like,nah, I watch the big fights
though, of course, I tune in.
I'm not a hater.
I've never been a hater.
Four Corners says we love MMAtoo, though, and we feel the
same way.
I don't hate a fight.
Nobody runs to watch a fight.
Everyone's watching a fightgood or bad.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
If they didn't put this shit on the same nights as
boxing, I'd probably watch moreof it.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Yeah, 100% my only thing.
With John Jones fighting, I'mwatching my only.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
The only reason I like boxing a little more is you
could.
There's more room for strategyand less room for knockouts, and
I know that sounds like astupid thing to say, but what I
mean by that is when the bestfight the best.
You're only focusing on onedimension, so like, yeah, and

(50:30):
it's just, it's, they'redifferent sports different
sports.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
The intangibles to them are different, like
different sports.
I think fans love to say likeoh well, mma fire would win a
street fight, I don't care, Idon't give a shit.
That's not why I watch.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
No no, no, not at all craft that, that yeah yeah,
it's like I I hate that.
It's like and I've said thisbefore years ago on the show
it's like comparing baseball andtennis, because we both hit
balls.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
Yeah, exactly, I say it all the time.
Like fucking Aaron Judge canhit a home run 400 feet, that
doesn't mean he's going to gofucking win a PGA Tour.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
Yeah, no, no, but he might If he learns how to serve.
No, I'm just kidding, you'reright.
No, no, but he might, you know,if he learns how to serve.
No, I'm just kidding, like that.
You're here.
But anyway, going forward tothe fight night itself, uh, four
corners was there as well.
All the podcast cronies wereall out and about everyone was
there.
I just want to say one thingthat I didn't say in the
beginning.
You know, and fossil our, ourfriend, that that I started the

(51:20):
podcast with who got fired?
He, he said, he said to he waslike damn, bro, you and Willie,
like nomad people out here.
And, dude, at this fight itselfI had people I didn't recognize
that, I didn't know that werelike yo Puma, I was in the beer
line.
They're like yo Puma thesparring.
So like you never know who'slistening, dude, it's crazy.
That's cool, though that's supercool.

(51:41):
And before we get into it, Iwant to say something too, and
this goes out to all the podcastcronies and the media guys like
yourself, everybody makingcontent, whatever.
There's no other sport in NewYork that has less mainstream
New York media than boxing Likethere was no.
There's no like real ESPN push.

(52:02):
You didn't see the best cardI've ever seen on ESPN, right?
The problem with New York whenpeople go to other teams is the
media.
They hate dealing with themedia.
The only real media that isalways in your face and we saw
it in this fight when the fightsended is the podcasters.
It is the content creators.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
Exactly, that's most of the boxing media, that's
almost all the boxing media soso that is kind of a boxing.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Yeah, johnny is everywhere, our guys, four
quarters that.
They're all everyone's outthere.
There was even english, englishboxing podcasters out there
from england.
Like it was cool to see shitI've never heard of because it's
it's england and like that,that that was really good to see
.
Man, man, and and that justkeeps us going.
Bro, we, we are the, the, thebase, we, we get the information
out there.
We, we state our opinions.

(52:49):
Whether you like them or not, alot of them hate punchlines
opinions because they're so realand they're.
They're what you're thinking.
Well, the fuckers hate me bro.
It's okay bro, we love it.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
Fighters too.
Fighters hate me too.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Yeah, but see, the thing with you is punchlines.
They got to understand likeyou're taking a comedic angle
and you want that shock factorand you're doing it and it's
extremely funny.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
You're going viral like every post.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
It's extremely funny.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Whatever is working is working Shit.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
Thanks, bro, but whatever is working is working
for us too, and we don't reallysee that because I'm always
going to consider myself ashitty podcast and that we just
fucking sit here and drink andtalk boxing, but some random guy
who I never met put his hand onmy shoulder while I was
ordering a drink.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
That's why people like y'all though, like I'm
being honest, like I'm not goingto say names, I don't have to.
There's podcasters out therethat once fighters start to know
them or once people startcommenting on their stuff, like
you can tell that they're fullof themselves and it can be a

(53:55):
turnoff.
They think they become anauthority in the sport and it's
yeah, never, yeah I don't, Iwould never, but I don't want to
be authority.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
I never in my life would be authority of nobody.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
Bro, for the first time in my life I'm on the beer
line.
I was ordering tequila in mylittle $20 Dixie cup.
But I'm on the beer line, somedude put his hand on my shoulder
and I'm like what the fuck?
I'm about to get knocked out.
Here we go again and I look up.
He's like yo Puma, this jackdude.
He's like yo Puma, you in everyfight.
Man, your podcast is cool ashell.

(54:30):
I'm like thanks, man.
And then the dude sitting nextto us right, they don't follow
the podcast, but they were likeyo, yo, I remember you.
He's like I remember you.
You were, remember you.
You were at the shakur fight.
You had the heart hat on.
You're crazy, you're wildingout you're wild.
I'm like no, you're talkingabout kishan fight oh, kishan,
kishan, I'm sorry, yeah, at thekishan fight and he's next to
and I'm like god damn, I don'tremember this guy at all.

(54:51):
He's like bro, blah, blah, blah, we just like, and I'm like
damn yeah he got, he got kickedout with little t.
Yeah, he got kicked out, buthe's like I wasn't even with him
.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
They kicked me out.
Shout out to four corners again, bro.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
They said never shitty, the sparring is legit
and live yo.
So are you guys, bro.
Four corners is they?

Speaker 1 (55:08):
they have a crew with them yeah, they got a whole
gang of them motherfuckers butlet's, let's get in.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
The maniac is my boy bro I love that dude you heard
punchline and everything, yeahpunchline says the maniac is his
boy.
I can't bro, we talk football,boxing, everything, everything,
bro, he's the dude.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
Going forward.
Let's get into the fights Again.
I knew this was going to be along episode.
Willie, get an energy drink.
I got one upstairs if you want,but let's get into the.
We're not really going to talkabout the Asian dude who fought
on the initial fight.
He knocked the guy out.
Yeah, he smoked that dude.
They set that up though.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
That's crazy.
We end up seeing him.
We were walking in yeah, inManhattan.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Yeah, they kind of set that up for him.
But you know what?

Speaker 3 (55:55):
It's a second fight.
Yeah, yeah, you can fight inyour second fight.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
I think they kind of jumped the gun too.
They made him like a ringmagazine ambassador.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
Yeah, uh, that was leaning into him hard yeah so
whatever.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
That's cool, yeah, but uh, yo david morel versus
imam katev I don't know if I'msaying that that, that right,
let's just get very close, fightvery good fight.
Uh, hats off to imam katev.
He was what we said about him,and maybe even a little more.
In my opinion, no one's goingto want to fight that guy.

(56:30):
He's going to enter the realmof super high risk, super low
reward and I don't wish that onhim Because he is exciting to
see.
He's built like a more rippedCanelo, that low center of
gravity, not in a weird way.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
I said he reminded me of gassiev yeah, yeah yeah, a
lot like

Speaker 1 (56:49):
I see every fucking muscle in his body.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
Well, I wonder if it's because of that shit yeah,
yeah, he.
There's some rumors goingaround I don't want to get into
that too much because it's soconfusing and like whenever pbs
gets brought up, people havevery strong opinions on it, as
they should.
He looked a little.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
I'm no expert in fitness, but he looked a little
girthy.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
I'll put it that way.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
He was big.
I'm not taking anything awayfrom him.
I thought Morel should havebeen the better fighter.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
He lasted a long time with all that muscle on here
and and then what his downfallwas?

Speaker 2 (57:29):
he petered out.
But I'm a little annoyed atmorel because I told you you
called it, you called it, youcalled it.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
I'm a little annoyed at morel he kept on saying that
shit, he's like a punch calledit, punch called yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
Yeah, I was a little annoyed at him because he's a a
talented boxer, pure boxer, andhe has that dancing.
He's Cuban, right?
Cuban style, right?
Yeah, his last fight versusBenavidez, right?
I said I was like bro, he's alittle too immature.
Like he's playing around withBenavidez.
What are you doing?

(58:02):
Chill out, chill out.
When he got knocked down, dude,he was doing that weird dance
step.
Yeah, and what are you doing?
What are you doing At the endof the round If you didn't learn
?
Versus Benavidez, now you'reversus a super high risk, low
reward, no-transcript.
What are you doing?
Because you, you just changedeveryone's dynamic of the fight

(58:25):
yeah, I even told my boy.

Speaker 3 (58:26):
I was like, bro, he's doing what teo does.
When teo thinks he's ahead, oreven is ahead, he starts.
He starts trying to be tooflashy rather than doing what
got him to being ahead and andand it's just fucking.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
It was just sad to see because he's a pure talented
boxer.
Uh, four corners just saidmorel doesn't fight to the body
and, and you're right, hedoesn't in this fight, though,
with that guy's low stature andlow center of gravity, it would
be hard to hit him in the body,it would be hard to get that he
was throwing some shit to thebody, though he was throwing a
hook to the body.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
He was throwing a hook to the body one thing
actually, tatev did, though,from the first round was attack.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
Murrell's body.
Oh my goodness, ringside bro,I'm like dude Murrell's good.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
He must have looked at his legs and been like yo, he
got woolly legs, Murrell gotsome skinny legs bro.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
Yeah, he does, but I think it was more his immaturity
sticking his tongue out,dancing, getting knocked out
while dancing, and and shame onhis corner in a sense too, like
bro, get in his ass, like whatare you doing?

Speaker 3 (59:32):
you're fighting.
Oh, they did.
Oh see, we don't see that, wedon't hear it.
Ronnie shields did because he,that's the thing, he's got a
great corner, he's got ronnieshields and bob santos both in
his corner.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
Wow, that's two very good trends yeah, yeah and
ronnie shield's gotten his assafter he got dropped, but not
not too much after that bro thatthe way he got dropped boxing
fanatics and stuff have to talkabout it, because what he
literally was go watch it again.
Like we saw, lucky that shitwas at the end of the round,
yeah, and he was like doing thisweird dance, he was fine and

(01:00:00):
then got clipped.
Like what are you playingaround with him for?
Like you got to be a hundredpercent and it was only a 10
round fight.
Like a two-point round couldreally shift things.
And let's go to the scorecardsnow.
I, I, what'd you think?

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
I.
He was about the cards, likethe, the scores.
Yeah, I didn't like him.
I don't want to say robbery,because it was a close fight,
but I I feel like, feel likethis is where I have a problem
with it.
It's the same thing with HaneyLoma.
Haney Loma was very close butthe one judge that gave Haney
eight rounds, I was like there'sno way.

(01:00:35):
And then the judge that gave ortwo judges, I guess, that gave
Morell seven rounds Somebody, atleast one judge, gave him seven
rounds.
I was like there's no way.
Yeah, I suppose the fight ordraw personally, but because of
the knockdown, it would havebeen a 95-94.
Kataev, I didn't like the cards.

(01:00:56):
I didn't like the robbery, butI did not like the cards.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
Four Quarters just said the scorecards took long
enough to be announced.
And yo, that's my biggest gripewith boxing.
Literally, if you asked mewhat's your biggest gripe with
boxing, puma, I would say ifeveryone's scoring the fight
round by round, to add up 10,like it's 10 rounds right.
So to add up all those numbers,especially in 2025, forget that

(01:01:22):
it's addition should be theeasiest, most quick thing to do.
Why do scorecards take so long?
Someone answer me.
Why do scorecards take?

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
It should be a set time, because it'd be a bunch of
bullshit going on.
It should be.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
Yo, if Turk wants to really affect boxing, yo, you
guys have 30 seconds to add thatup.
If you don't add it up, thefight's a no contest.

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
You know, reach out to somebody who does judge If
they have a social mediapresence.
There's got to be a process orsomething they probably have to
get it checked by the commissionor by the sanctioning bodies to
make sure.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Maybe a ref.
I know a few refs.
I might like a few pro refs Bignames too.
I'm not going to name them nowthey told me never to but maybe
I'll fucking hit him up and belike yo what the fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Nah, but yeah, that fight was.
It was a good fight, greatfight to start it off, action
packed fight.
The whole time, the whole fight, the whole fight.
I'm sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
I was talking about the Japanese fight how it was
empty and shit.
I was like damn bro.
But once those two startedfighting it didn't feel like it
was empty.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
It was loud, it was still pretty empty.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
It was just such a good fight you couldn't tell on
the broadcast because the crowdthat was there was loving the
fight.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
Yeah, nah, everybody was loving the fight.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
You can't not love a fight like that and again to
open it up, and he kept itrolling.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
I'm pretty sure a lot of people didn't know who
Kataev was.
They was like yo.
They heard of David Morel andhe was getting David works and I
felt like Kataev pulled it off.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
He said Morel went blonde and got dropped.

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
Bro, he was fucking dancing.
Was that Joe Budden line?
I smell something fishy.
There's a con in the air.
Put a streak of blonde in yourhair, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
I'm like I saw that and I didn't see it live.
When you're live, you'remingling.
We're starstruck, we're lookingaround.
I saw it on the replay like hewas really dancing like that.
I knew he got.
I saw the drop, but I saw itright away like he was fooling
around like that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
What the fuck are you doing?
Yeah, he wasn't ahead enough tostart behaving like that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
No, no, and or you're versus a game hard puncher and
you felt his power.
Like what are you doing?
Whatever, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
I didn't like that fight coming off of Benavidez
Law.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
Yo, you said that, shit too.
Yeah, you called that, that wasgood, you called a lot.
He was like this is a toughfight for him to come off that
fight into another fight.
Not a good look for him.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
When you saw us on TV and you got all giddy, just
know I was thinking of youbecause I was like damn, punch
called that one too, punchcalled that one too.
Yeah, I was looking for you.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
I asked Willie, or I asked Puma, to send me a picture
.
Willie, I was like yo send me apicture of your vantage point
so I can look for y'all.
And like he never responded, Iwas like, oh, he's at the fight.
It wasn't on purpose.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
It wasn't on purpose, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
I didn't service.
No, that's me.
Willie had none, that's me, Iwas like what am I paying all
this money for?

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
So right after that fight, turk did another good
thing kept it rolling.
Boom, here comes Alberto Playa,and I'm like shit, he's coming
out already, or did Subrio comeout first?
I don't know Whoever came outfirst, I'm like Subrio came out
first.
I don't know Whoever came outfirst.
I'm like yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
Matias.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
The crowd, the Puerto Ricans.
It was a Puerto.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
Rican crowd.
The Puerto Ricans were out.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
New.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
York City, Puerto Ricans was outside.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
He comes out, yo, up close and personal.
And I said this one thing I wasright about he's really long
and big Dude.
Up close, I don't know how thatguy makes 140.
Oh, you're talking about Poyo.
Yeah, how the fuck he makes 140is crazy to me, dude, he is a
big dude.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
He reminds me of one of them uncles.
That would just be skinny andtall.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
Dude, but he's jacked too.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Yeah, well, because he boxed I'm just saying like
one of your uncles would just belike never can really gain
weight.

Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
Dude, A lot of Dominicans are brolic-y like
that too.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Yeah, like lanky, lanky brolic, Lanky brolic.
That's why they're good atpitching in baseball.
Yeah for sure, yo, he was a big140.
Then comes Subrio.
No, I'm sorry, I'm all over theplace.
Yeah, nobody was cheering forSubrio.
Pueyo comes out Big ass.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
No, no, no.
I thought people were cheeringfor Subrio, because he's Puerto
Rican.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
No, that's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
No, they weren't cheering for Pueyo.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
Yeah, they were booing, him.
Yeah, they were booing Pueyo.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
But Pueyo, for some reason I thought Pueyo came out
first.
That's why I went on that rantjust now.
Sorry, no, the champ come outlast.
You're right Again.
Whatever, into the fight itself, subrio Matias man, if he can't
hurt you, it's not going to endwell versus Boxer.
And you were right.

(01:06:25):
That's when I thought of youagain.
Punch, he was like he called it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
I definitely called it too, because I said, well, it
was the Boxer, he's going tooutbox him.
I like him.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
He didn't turn enough .
He put himself on the ropes andfought off the ropes In the
corner.
Yeah, that was the dumbest shit.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
We was kept on saying that shit too, like yo, get off
the ropes.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
Like why are you on?

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
the ropes, just sitting there taking mad punches
.

Speaker 3 (01:06:52):
But then he started turning them later, and that's
when he started winning rounds.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
And in the second half of the fight, one thing I
noticed from both where I waslike and he was right behind us,
hitchens I was like nobody'sthrowing a jab.
Hitchens, jam is fuckingamazing.
Nobody's throwing a jab.
And if they did, it was like aweak, muffed jab, like nobody's
really throwing like a real jab.
And and I looked at hitchensand I was like yo, nobody's

(01:07:16):
throwing a jab.
And he's like I got a jab.
I got a jab.
And I was like yeah, bro, andhe knows his turn.
Yeah, and Hitchens is, he'ssmart, he's smart in there.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
But again, the thing that Matias got away with with
Pollo, that he wouldn't get awaywith with Hitchens.
And I was saying this duringthe fight.
I was like he throws so manypunches and you can't tell if
they're landing or not, so youjust got to assume, and when
you're throwing punches and theother guy's sure landing, but
throwing less, it confusespeople.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
That's what Shakur fight too.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
Yeah, that's why I had things to say about that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
That's the same thing I got from Shakur fight too.
So many punches being thrown.
You don't know that he'sgetting touched, but we don't
know when or which one is itactually?

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
I'm going to touch on that too, when we get to it,
because I had a different like.

Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
y'all were ringside, so you guys have the ringside
angles, the same angles that thejudges have.
So it's like maybe sometimesyou can't tell On TV.
I was like bro, a lot of theseare just hitting gloves hitting
arms or nothing at all, Eveninside.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
Even on ringside.
It still looked like thatbecause you got people in front
of you, you got people sittingon the ring, you got people
right there.
You still can't really seeeverything.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
No Four Corners says I think Rich picks apart.
Matthias.
He said I need the binoculars.
He said I think Rich picksapart Matthias.
He said I need the binoculars.
He said I think Rich picksapart Matthias wins an easy
decision.
I think so too.
The only thing I will say withRichardson Hitchens, the only
time he looked really, reallybad was when the dude was in his
chest thugging it out, brawling, kind of like what Amanda

(01:08:59):
Serrano was supposed to do.
But Pueyo, though Pueyo shouldhave won, in my opinion.
He had the belt, he was thechampion, and what won it?
For me going into the 10th, I'mlike damn, this is going to be
close.
Based on everything we justsaid, this is going to be close.
But when the championshiprounds matter in a championship
fight, that's why they're there.
That's why other fights are 10rounds and this one's 11 and 12.

(01:09:22):
He, pueyo, turned up in the11th and 12th and easily won
both those rounds, and he hadthe belt.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
He had the belt, bro.
It didn't make no fucking sense.
They cheated my boy.
They cheated my boy, bro, theycheated.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
Going into the night, morrow was saying like Pueyo
needs to do something.
Matias is running away withthis.
I got him up six rounds to twoand I'm like what, what, the
fuck, what?
We didn't hear that.
Yeah, you're lucky you didn'thear that, bro.
And it wasn't the only time hedid that on the broadcast.
I'll get more into that later.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
I was like how do you ?

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
Because right after that they showed the unofficial
scorecard for Mannix and he hadit four rounds before.
He's like nope, I don't agree.
Yeah, good on him.
And then this is how stupidMora is.
He said Matias had won sixrounds and then at the end of
the fight he said .01.
I'm like how, if you alreadygave?

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
Matias six rounds.
He's just yapping Yo.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
this is insane bro, I was pissed at that scorecard
bro I was pissed at the result.
It was stupid, because I I feltlike my son was boxing.
He was doing his thing, I knowyo, but I but tears, non-stop,
pressure yo.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
I will say in in real life yeah, that was great I'm
like yo this guy don't get tiredwas that cut from a headbutt or
was it a real cut?

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
it was probably both.
But that yo yo, that man do notget tired comes straight
forward.
I was getting tired of watchinghim coming forward.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
I know his chin's been questionable.
He has been down.
He showed good grit and goodchin in this fight too.
I'm not taking anything awayfrom him.
Richardson Hitchens was rightbehind us and talking to us the
whole time.
Whatever, I think he's gladMatias won, because Puey would
have been harder I'm not sayinga problem, but would have been

(01:11:10):
harder and I think he alluded tothat too while speaking with
him.
He was like, yeah, I'll get himout of there and I think he
will because he has a jab andthe one thing missing from this
fight was a fucking jab.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
Yeah, I think he's starting to have the best jab.
Yeah, he's getting.
Well, I meant to do an editbecause yo his jab was whistling
like the old school fuckingNerf ball.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
That's what I wanted to do, that with.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
That's what I wanted to do.
That one Yo.
That's how his, that's howRichard, his jab was fucking
sounding that night you rememberthe glow in the dark one.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
The glow in the dark.
Howler, I love that thing.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
That's how his jab was.
Just like that.
I'm like yo.
That's crazy.
I can't imagine what it soundedlike on TV.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
For me, all the fights were great.
It was great to see Shakur, butPueyo versus Matias was the
most fun for me because we hadSubrio, who possibly and again
you can get into it right whenI'm done saying this possibly
could fight one of them guys whohas a belt annotating the fight
with us.
That was cool to be a part ofman.

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
That was cool to be a part of man.
That was cool.
That is sick that you got to dothat.
You're sitting next to anotherchampion in the weight class,
bro.
You got the best seat in thehouse at that point.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
It was fucking amazing to me.
He tapped me on the show.
He's like yo.
What do you think?

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
Who you got.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
I'm like, excuse me, what do you think is winning?

Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
I'm like pass out right now and I'm like what the
fuck is going on that Drewskimeme me.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
He literally put his hand on my shoulder and was like
yo who you got?
I'm like my name's Puma, howyou doing what the?
Fuck is going on, but nah, itwas really cool.
Great fight, though nonetheless, we could pick it apart.
A majority of people thinkPueyo won.
I don't know where thatmaterial is.
I had Pueyo winning.
It was close to 10.

(01:13:11):
You could make an argument foreither side to 10.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
I had it 7-5.
I didn't have it like a blowout, I had it 7-5.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
But 11 and 12 matter, and he has the belt.
So, even if those rounds areclose, you gotta, you gotta, you
gotta take the belt.

Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
And I think that's where I disagree.
I I I'm on record vehementlyagainst that.
I don't like the.
You gotta beat the champ to bethe champ.
Like that's like a it's not awritten rule that that's not
real criteria.
That's just like something thatfans kind of made up.
I feel like once the fightstarts, the belt doesn't matter.
You got to judge the fight asthe fight.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
No, no and I I agree with you, but like, why do they
have championship rounds then?
And if you win the championshiprounds only in a close fight?
In a close fight, right right,there's championship rounds and
you clearly won 11 and 12.
I don don't know what thescorecard's read, but from
everybody's fucking opinion, 11and 12 was Pueyo and you're the
champ in a super close fight.

(01:14:09):
You didn't take the belt, youdidn't earn the belt, but Punch.

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
That goes to his point too, though that's made up
too.
That's something that peoplejust made up championship rounds
.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
It's not like a real thing it is, though, in a sense
because there's not 12-roundfights Like why is there
10-round fights then, and whyare all belt fights 12?

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
Oh, maybe you're right about that, I think you
have to do a little more.

Speaker 3 (01:14:36):
Maybe that is right.
I didn't even think about that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
I mean, are there belt fights for 10 rounds or no,
not?
At all Women's only.
Oh, maybe those interim belts.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
I don't even think they are.
I think they might be 12th.
I don't care about interimbelts, and we talked about this
punch.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
Just get rid of them.
Yeah, just get rid of them.
At least they got rid of them,nah, but like a real belt fight.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
And, like you see it, though and this was a great
fight, when the best fight thebest, and it's a close fight and
then you're like, oh shit,we're going to 11 and 12 now.
They got to dig deep.

Speaker 3 (01:15:10):
And it felt like an old school fight too.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
Yeah, very, very, very great fight and it was
great.
Good style clash Whatever andagain, I don't like to talk
about that, but he's a dog, Ijust think Pueyo.

Speaker 3 (01:15:27):
I don't hate him, but I hate on him because I just
don't like his style.
There's so much.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
Wrong with it.
Yeah, and that's what I meantin the beginning when we started
the segment.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
I feel like that's why Pueyo didn't win, because
they don't like his style either, even though he boxed, they
don't like him as a champion.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
The one thing I didn't like that Pueyo did.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
He don't get no respect as a champion.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
He's clearly bigger.
Right, he's bigger than every140 guy.
He backs up a lot, bro.
He backs up way too much.
He clinches a lot.
Yeah, and being that big in thecorner to a judge's eye not
ours in this fight it could lookbad.
This is a big dude being backeddown by a smaller guy.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
He had a lot of energy in that 11 and 12th round
.
For somebody that's on his backfoot the whole time, I'm like
yo how he has so much energy.
He's on his back foot the wholefight and he still had energy.
I was saying that to Afosaso.
I'm like yo, he's still gotenergy Watch, he's still got
energy.
On the back foot is the wholefight.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
He's big too, but whatever Again, so we missed the
broadcast.
I know I saw something onsocial media and we'll try to
wrap this segment up quickly.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
And we saw the dude too.
That's the crazy part.
We saw him walk right past usand we did not saw the dude too.

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
that's the crazy part we saw, yeah yeah, I'm looking
at, I know who he was, what'shis name?
Fucking the english dude,dalton smith.
Yeah, dalton smith was likeright next to us and I'm like I
I think I might have even talkedto him and I'm looking at him
like damn, where do I?

Speaker 3 (01:16:55):
know this guy from yeah well, he looked different
because he's like growing outhis beard and shit.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
Yeah, yeah yeah, I saw that.
Once I saw his tattoo on hisneck, I'm like like I know this
fucking guy.
Where do I know this fuckingguy from?
But what happened?
What happened in the ring?

Speaker 3 (01:17:08):
Oh, I think Mannix was the one doing the in-ring
interviews and he asked you knowhe's like.
You know Dalton Smith isringside, would you be
interested in fighting him next?
And Matias gave the typicalanswer that all fighters do,
like yo, you know, I gotta talkto my management and we'll see.
And then Turkey goes no, myfriend, you will be fighting him

(01:17:29):
next in November.
And I was like what Damn bro,he just punked the fuck out of
you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
That's what happened, Yo, I did not know that
happened bro.

Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
And then later on in the broadcast they also brought
up this, Turkey said thatAlberto Puello, because the
fight was close and questionable, would get his opportunity to
fight the winner between thosetwo as well.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
That's good for him.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
But damn, that sucks for Richardson Hitchens.
What the fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:17:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
I don't know who they're going to get him.

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
That's crazy.
He's not going to fight Russell.
I'm not going to say he's goingto fight Russell.
I'm saying I don't think PBC isgoing to let Russell fight him.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
The easiest fight to make in boxing right now, with
what's going on with TO in toprank, is TO Hitchens.

Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
They have the same manager TO wants to take that
fight because of the market.
I can see him using Hitchens'marketability as a reason not to
.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
Actually, when I was speaking to Hitchens, I was like
, bro, you and Tio in this arenaright here, maybe like an early
fall, that'd be crazy.
It has to be in New York, youknow what I mean Him and Tio in
that arena, that would be crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
Brooklyn dead man.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
And again, I'm going to talk about TO for two seconds
and I'm going to change topics.
How the fuck?
Remember what we said on theride home?
I was like bro TO, we look atthese fighters and the crowd
that approaches them TO getsmobbed.
Bro, he really is popular, hegets mobbed at these events.
So him in new york, it is thatthat would be cool to see.

(01:19:07):
But moving forward, uh, let'sjust, let's just keep going.
We, we are, we're already likean hour and 20 in, but it's all
good um that, what should havebeen the main event on most
people's uh opinion, if you peephis shirt right now, I, I
peeped it, I see.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
Shakur, that's a nice shirt, man.
Yeah, that is nice.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
I peep Shakur.
There's always critics.
Real quick not to cut you off.
I'm so sorry.
I don't care, bro.
Don't say that it makes itharder to edit, Just go, Thanks
for playing shirts.

Speaker 3 (01:19:40):
They used to make shirts after the fights when
they would happen.
The main events, the big mainevents, the big fights, with
like quotes around the narrativeof the fight.
You know, I got one on rightnow.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
Which one do you?
Oh, the greatest hits one yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:19:55):
I'm not going to stand up and show you the back.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, thanks forplaying.
We'll be making a Shakur Zapatafight with the Tom and Jerry
thing.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
That's awesome and I hope Shakur loves it.
I hope he loves it and I'm surehe will.
Actually, Willie had on andwe're going to get off track
here.

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
Zabop.

Speaker 3 (01:20:17):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
And who comes walking by Zabop and who yells at Zabop
I guess they're good friendsHitchens.
And who yells at Zabop I guessthey're good friends, hitchens.
Hitchens yells at Zabop and hegoes hey, fucks the Queen Moses.
And he looks right at me andI'm like I didn't do it.
I didn't fucking do it.
I'm like what the fuck?
But nah, yeah, thanks forplaying man again.

(01:20:39):
The best shirts they make arethose fight shirts.
Yeah, yeah, they have Keon waslike yo nice shirt, the best
shirts they make are those fight?

Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
shirts yeah, I've known them in a while.
Yeah, they have Keon was likeyo nice shirt.
Yeah, yeah, he was like yo,that's a nice shirt.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
See, you heard that I was like yo when you get yours.
I didn't even know that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:51):
I'm like yo, when you get yours, I'll buy it
definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
He was like I already got mine.
Who, yeah, so, uh, that wasanother thing.
That was cool to see that davishas finally showed face.
I like to see that.
Yeah, um, sly tendency saidswitch from instagram.
That shit was whack.
Yeah, uh, sorry, I, I got anotification.
They said instagram was messingup, but, uh, I don't know
what's going on with that.

(01:21:19):
Um, but yeah, we're on youtube.
So thank you, sly, for stickingaround.
The fight itself there's alwayscritics we're talking about
Shakur vs William Cepeda shouldhave been the main event.
Everyone kind of agrees withthat, but whatever it is what it
is, it was a great fight, greatcard.
Nonetheless, shakur shuteveryone up, in my opinion.

(01:21:42):
I know Willie and you are goingto go at it, because Willie has
a different opinion of what hesaw, but Shakur did things in
this fight that really silenceda lot of his haters and critics.
Mind you, willie did haveShakur winning the fight, yeah,
but he just saw somethingdifferent.
I thought Shakur pitched ashutout.
I thought he showed.
You don't think so.
No, I gave him the pay, likethree or four rounds.

Speaker 3 (01:22:04):
I thought he showed you, don't think so?

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
No, I gave him the pain in like 3 or 4 rounds.

Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
Mind you, I missed a lot of the fight because what
the fuck you missed the fight,for you know why.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
Clarissa Shields was in front of me at the time.
She kind of I'm not going toblast him like that, but she
kind of got someone to movetheir seat and she sat right in
front of me but she did not sit.
And I tell you what clarissashields has a a very, very nice
and never mind.

(01:22:35):
She was in front of me and Icouldn't see because there was a
whole lot of stuff in my faceand she's a real fan of chicory
bro, like she's an actual fan ofscore and I actually I love
clarissa shields because I hadthe sparring hat on and she's a
real fan of Shakur bro.
She's an actual fan of Shakur.
Actually, I love ClarissaShields because I had the
sparring hat on and that's whenI was all over TV because they
kept putting the cameras onClarissa walling out and I'm
like Try to get in the cameratime.

Speaker 3 (01:22:56):
I had a LaCroix.
My phone was on the floorbecause it was charging and I'm
just like when my favoritefighters fight, I get so nervous
that I can't.
I can't like move around, likeI sit down, I like hook my leg
and shit like that.
Or I'm like my hands are likeclasped and shit.
And then I see kuma on thescreen.
I'm like, oh, I'm like, well,it's like one dude and his
two-year-old kid.

(01:23:16):
I'm like this is my boy, he'smy like.
I'm like spilling fuckingpopcorn by the time I pick up my
phone to take a picture, likehe's off screen and I was like
damn it, bro, we, we are gainingground.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
And again, this goes back to what I started with, and
not that we're like famous oranything but like random people
were dming me on instagram thatI don't know, like at the
sparring account, and they'relike yo, bro, I just saw you on
tv and I'm like, hey, likewhat's up, but uh, so I did miss
a lot of the fight, but it wasa nice view right in front of me
.
Yeah, it was a great view.

(01:23:49):
It was a great view.
I don't know.
Man Shakur, to me, was perfectin this fight.
He fought, he was interactingwith the fans while fighting.
He was looking ringside at us,him this was another cool thing
him and Hitchens were talking,so he was talking to Richardson
Hitchens.
He's a big fan and this is onething.

(01:24:10):
And I'm going to stop hypinghim up and I'll let you guys go,
but I'll say it later.
Go ahead, I want to hear yourguys' takes.
Let Willie go first.

Speaker 3 (01:24:19):
Let.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
Willie go first, because Willie saw something a
little different than what I saw.
I saw a shutout.

Speaker 1 (01:24:23):
I wasn't expecting this from Shakur at all, bro.
He shut everybody up.
He sat there, he sat on theropes, but a little bit too long
though he was tripping withthat.
But other than that he foughtgreat.
He fought a fight that nobodythought he was going to fight,

(01:24:46):
but with all them punches he wasthrowing he was getting touched
a lot more than we thought hewas getting touched, like he's.
I know he said he got caughtoff balance and all that.
A couple of stuff, like a lotof you can't really tell, like
really was hitting with thatphilly guard because you, he got
this right hand up but that,what was that?
His left hand maybe was hittingmore than anything else.
But these hooks to the bodyprobably wasn't counting at all,

(01:25:07):
because Sabato hooks wasn'tcounting at all because he's got
the Philly guard.
He's protected here, protectedon the arm and the gut.

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
Can I interrupt you real quick, though?
I just want to say one thing,and this goes for all the
fighters out there, anyone thatlistens, whatever.
That's how you do a phillyshell.
Yeah, everybody else is trying.

Speaker 3 (01:25:28):
That's how you do a philly shell like that that's
like 21 years of work going intoit too.
Yeah that, but that is how youdo a philly.

Speaker 1 (01:25:36):
That's literally the reason why you can't really
count all them punches, the paythat was throwing, because the
philly shell is meant forfighters like him and really the
only one that was landing is onthe right side of Shakur's face
.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
You know what's crazy , though, to me, man and then
I'm going to let you goPunchline this was the most
Shakur has ever gotten hit inhis career ever so this was his
toughest fight and the worst.
He's looked technically from apunching standpoint in his
career ever so.
This was his toughest fight andthe worst he's looked
technically from a from a from apunching standpoint in his
career and it's the most he evergot hit.
According to compu box,stevenson's previous 11

(01:26:12):
opponents only have landed anaverage of 5.4 punches per round
and in this fight alone zapataaverage landed was around 23 per
round.
So Stevenson looked that damngood and got hit the most he's
ever got hit in his life, and tome that is elite, elite bro,

(01:26:33):
that's only because he sat thereand wanted to fight that fight
just for some fake ass fans.

Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
It's just like he did that forpeople, just to judge him anyway
I'm with you because I was.

Speaker 3 (01:26:49):
I even texted in the group chat.
I was like I was like bro, his,his style is like his game plan
is confusing me right now.
And foreman from pay the tollwas like, yeah, but he's winning
.
I'm like with these last twoscorecards, bro, I don't know if
he is yeah, that's true, that'sgood, I was saying he is, I see
he's winning.
But I was nervous because I waslike the same thing with matias.

(01:27:11):
Like zapata was throwing a lot,but he really like a lot of
times a lot of that shit lookedbetter than it was because he
wasn't like.
There was one time in the fightI swear to god, he threw 20
punches with shakur, the ropes,one of them landed and I'm not
even exaggerating Sometime inthe second half of the fight.

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
Hitchenson said something and I wish I wrote it
down because I was like damndude.
I turned around and I was likeyou know who they used to say
that about.
Hitchenson said something.
He's like he's so damn talentedand good he's almost like
boring, but he's not boring,something to that effect.
And I turned around, I was likeyou know who they used to say
that about, floyd mayweather jrand and then and then I I

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something hit me and I'm lookingaround and I'm like there's
three people in boxing right nowthat that your favorite boxer
is their favorite boxer.
And those three people malesare Shakur Terrence Crawford in
America.
Shakur Terrence Crawford andGervonta Davis.
Yeah, and then something elsehit me and it was like, wow, we

(01:28:15):
really really need for boxing tobe be to really surpass UFC.
If you're about that life.
Shakur Stevenson versusGervonta Davis is the biggest
fight to make right now.
That's just my opinion, not aheavyweight, nobody else.
The biggest fight to make inboxing in at least America is.

Speaker 1 (01:28:34):
Shakur Stevenson versus Gervonta Davis.
They're going to get paid.

Speaker 3 (01:28:40):
Oh yeah, easily, or even, I think, throw Devin in
there, don't I mean any.

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
Any of them is a big fight.
But the biggest bro, I've neverseen people like I'm.
Looking around at all thesepros, they are literally getting
like me when I'm, when I'm at ateal fight, getting emotional
about shakur, stevenson and andthe only other fighter I've seen
that from pros is GervontaDavis, like, like modern you
know, and Terrence Crawford yeah, so so those three, let me ask

(01:29:11):
your guys opinion.
Actually I have.
I have a question.
What do you think is a biggerfight, terrence, like, like
amongst boxing fans, pure boxingfans, or what do you think does
more?
I can't ask that.
What do you think is a biggerfight amongst pure boxing fans?
Terrence Crawford, canelo, or,right now, in this moment,
shakur or Gervonta Davis, shakuror Tank?

Speaker 3 (01:29:33):
Yeah for sure, Think about that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
They're in their prime and they're in the same
weight class and the same weightclass is not going to be.
No, oh, he went up in a weight,he did this.
And he went up in a weight, hedid this and he went up two
weight classes.
There's no if who's the best ina weight class.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
So you, know what Shakur's about to make a lot of
money off this fight, though andagain, I'm diverting a little
bit to the future but if hetakes Kid Austin right and he
beats Kid Austin decisively nomatter what he does in that
fight tank, I think tank isgoing to have the rematch and
he's going to win.
I believe.
I believe he's going to.

(01:30:12):
He's going to, even with what'sgoing on with him criminally, I
believe tank's going to win.
He ain't do it.
I believe tank's going to win,right, he ain't doing it.
Tank is on his way out ofboxing.
It appears he's alluded to thefact that he doesn't want to box
much longer.
He's having all these issuesgoing on in his personal life.

Speaker 1 (01:30:33):
But it's crazy when you say that how he's feeling,
all other fighters are sayingthey feel what he feels.
That's crazy.
To said it, hitchison probably.
I think he said it on a podcast.
I know Keyshawn on a podcastsaid it.
And then Shakur said it, butagain.

Speaker 2 (01:30:54):
I don't want to go into a tank rant.
I'm just saying this is a goodroute for Tank.
He has the rematch, Toughrematch.
I think Tank's going to do histhing, though he free match.
I think Tank's going to do histhing, though he's going to be
the highly favored.
Now, okay, I'm on my way out.
I got a lot of stuff going on.
Mentally I'm not in a happyplace.
I've done enough in the sport.
Let me get this money versusyour core.

(01:31:14):
Win or lose, that'slife-changing money.

Speaker 3 (01:31:17):
That would be it, the only problem is he's already so
loyal to Al Heyman.
Honestly, the only problem ishe's already like he's so loyal
to Al Heyman.
There's no, and honestly he'stoo valuable to PBC for them to
let him fight anywhere else.
Shakur would have to go to PBCfor that fight to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
And it's crazy.
He said he was willing to dothat.

Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
And I think if Turk's hand is in the pot and a few
fights happen before that and hedoes as good as he did on this
card, nobody's going to say noto that money, man.

Speaker 3 (01:31:49):
I had one fucking idiot comment on my post because
my boy was like we need Shakurversus Tank.
I was like if it doesn't happen, it ain't Shakur's fault.
Somebody was like, oh, italready was Shakur's fault.
He could have been in thereversus Tank instead of Lamont,
but he chose Padley.
I'm like, oh really, he chosePadley.

Speaker 2 (01:32:03):
No, he didn't.
He replaced Padley.
Yeah right, you gotta ignorethose weirdos.

Speaker 3 (01:32:09):
And the fight with Schofield was announced after
Tank versus Lamont was alreadyannounced who came from 130,.

Speaker 2 (01:32:14):
By the way, Let me interrupt you real quick, though
.
Punch, we're getting somefeedback.
We got a bunch of peoplecommenting and again, I'm sorry,
I'm new to this live shit andagain, I don't mean to cut you
off.
He punches like us.
He gets emotional, but I got abunch of people commenting.
Soul8823 wrote Shakur versusTank.
Yeah, that's what I agree to.
In regards to our question ofwhat's a bigger fight, spirit of

(01:32:37):
LFC fans just asked a questionand then someone else said
something to him, but we'regoing to answer this question
first.
Spirit of LFC fans just saidregarding the Berlanga versus
Shiraz match, what are yourspecific observations, breakdown
analysis and step-by-stepanalysis?
I lied, we're going to finishthis record rant.
We're hitting that next, sostick around, spirit.

(01:32:59):
Thank you Real quick.
Again, I'm new to this freakinglive shit, so bear with my dumb
ass.
Soul 8823 just said tink madethat hit list of people he said
he was uh, gonna get at and take.
Still hasn't faced any of themand and that's what I'm saying
about.

Speaker 3 (01:33:17):
I was at the ryan garcia fight.

Speaker 2 (01:33:19):
He's only fought frank, martin and lamont since
and and that's why I think he'sgoing to get an early exit and
he still holds his legacy and wehave a real Tank fanboy with us
that could attest to this.
If he does his thing againstRoach, right, gets him out of
there, whatever wins decisively,even wins a close one.
Does his thing against Roachand then fights Shakur win or

(01:33:43):
lose.
Tank could retire and ride offinto the sunset.

Speaker 1 (01:33:45):
He's good after that.
Who cares?
Shakur is the best.

Speaker 3 (01:33:49):
Don't be surprised if he fights Kripple after the
Roach fight.
Don't be surprised if herematches.

Speaker 1 (01:33:53):
Kripple, so Willie Shakur is the best and he's the
best.
Who they have to figure it out.
Who I said Shakur and Tank theyhave to figure it out.
That's the big.

Speaker 2 (01:34:04):
We have people agreeing.
That's the biggest fight inboxing.

Speaker 3 (01:34:09):
They have to figure it out.
The day of Crawford Spence thatnight I posted a picture of
Shakur versus Tank.
I was like this is the nextmega fight in the sport.

Speaker 2 (01:34:17):
Four Corners just said Shakur, I'm sorry guys,
we're live on three things rightnow so I'm looking all over the
place, but it's cool to get thefeedback.
And again, I'm new at this, sobear with me, and I'm also tipsy
because I drink.
Fuck you if you judge me.
Shakur should fight kid, thentank next.
That's what Four Corners justsaid and I agree.

Speaker 3 (01:34:34):
I agree.
I want kid's dad to shut thefuck up, bro.
Yeah, I've been quiet thiswhole episode.
We get talking about Shakur andI'm fired up.

Speaker 2 (01:34:47):
Yeah, that's good though.
It's alright, though we'realready over an hour and the
fact that we're getting fanfeedback and people are tuning
in.
I'll sit here on my ass all dayand drink in poke boxes.

Speaker 3 (01:34:56):
Can I talk about the fight though?

Speaker 2 (01:34:57):
Yeah, go, go go.

Speaker 3 (01:34:59):
Like I said, I've been quiet this whole podcast,
but I've been, I fucking toldy'all, I told y'all For years
Two years ago, Zepeda turneddown the Shakur-Stevenson fight.
As a matter of fact, Austin DeLa Hoya turned it down for him
and I've been saying this wasgoing to happen.
You have, you said Zepeda looksgood against Shakur and you
know what he did.

(01:35:20):
Props to him.

Speaker 2 (01:35:24):
He, and you know what he did.

Speaker 3 (01:35:25):
Props to him he looked at shakur, but you know
why he looked good againstshakur because shakur fought
zapata's fight and beat him.
Shakur didn't run around.
He didn't move around until forlike the last 10 seconds around
nine and the last five secondsaround 12 he put himself on the
ropes, he put himself in thecorner, he stood right in front
of him and that dude still hadproblems hitting him and he
landed almost 200 power puncheson that guy.
Crazy.

(01:35:45):
Did he drop him?
Did he knock him out?
Did he rock him?
No, that's okay, beat him.
Yeah, you don't have to.

Speaker 2 (01:35:50):
No he's so accurate and and it goes back to what I
said earlier and you're, you're100, you're 100, right, this was
technically shakur's worstperformance.
If you just look at the numbers, you don't watch the fight and
whatever your biased opinion is,this is his worst fight ever
with the amount of times he gothit and he looked that good.
And again people are shittingon Zepeda and he is very

(01:36:13):
one-dimensional, but he's afucking dog dude and Zepeda did
not stop throwing.
Willie looked at me during thefight and he went dude.
This guy does not stop throwing.
He's like Willie looked at meduring the fight and he went
dude.
This guy does not stop throwing.
But I will say this I'm happyfor Shakur's hands, whoever that
hand wrapping guy is, becausein like the fourth or fifth
round I was, like Shakur'slanding a lot.

(01:36:33):
If that hand goes, this is notgoing to go well and that's
always going to be hisexclamation point.
Really, this fight showed hisonly problem to me is that that
hands might go.

Speaker 3 (01:36:46):
Yeah Well, he didn't have to move, he didn't dance
around or all that shit you saidhe did Not you, but fans.
He didn't even use his jab allthat much Like he was throwing a
lot of jabs to the body, butit's not like he relied on that
because people say you know he'sa jab, merchant Bro.

(01:37:08):
He was in the show.
He was landing a lot of likeuppercuts.
He threw the right hook toomany times it wasn't landing,
but he was.
He was when he was.

Speaker 1 (01:37:13):
he was landing like four punch combos throughout the
whole fight yeah, I'm surprisedhe didn't use the jab when he
just like stick it out and likemushed a head and is like direct
him to where he wanted to go.
He, he didn't use that jabeither.
He didn't do nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:37:26):
Four Corners says that type of fight makes both
fighters better 100%.
And you know what?
I almost feel bad for Zepedabecause Zepeda did so good in
that fight.
I don't want to just hypeShakur up so much and I think he
pitched a shutout.
But Zepeda is now also high,high risk, low reward.
In a sense.

Speaker 3 (01:37:44):
You know what I mean yeah, but I think with turkey,
because you can say the samething about cuello, you can say
the same thing about matias.
Turkey's gonna make the fightshappen, yeah for real, if you're
right if they're not, there'sother shit on pbc you.

Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
You're a little wrong , though.
You can't say the same thingabout matias, because
technically he has the belt now,so he's not high risk, low
reward.

Speaker 3 (01:38:03):
There's a reward there but I'm saying he was, he
was for pollo yeah, yeah, yeah,oh yeah, yeah in that fight, oh
yeah definitely, definitely andgod.

Speaker 1 (01:38:12):
But but that, um chicory, he just that uppercut
was there the whole time.

Speaker 3 (01:38:16):
He rarely do it, it was there and when he did it was
landing it was landing, but hecould have had that shit all day
.

Speaker 1 (01:38:22):
Yeah, we kept on screaming that bitch.
One thing.

Speaker 2 (01:38:26):
One thing, me richard , we was both singing, I have I
have to toot my own horn in asense, and not that I have
anything to do with how goodshakur did or taking any credit,
but shakur was kind oflistening to what hitchens and
clarissa were saying becausethey were the loudest.
Yeah, bud too.
Bud was to.
The bud was on the other sideof the ring but he kept looking
over at Hitchens and talking andlooking at Clarissa and I was

(01:38:48):
in between them so I startedyelling.
I was like bro, get off theropes, get the fuck off the
ropes.
And then Clarissa obviouslyheard me and Hitchens heard me
and they started yelling.
Bro, I was about to do a littlepocket hockey and crank one out
.

Speaker 3 (01:39:05):
Because I was about to do a little pocket hockey and
crank one out, because I waslike, wow, baby listen, lampley
brought it up too.
Because he's like, look, he'sdoing a good job defensively
against the ropes, but when thefight's in the center of the
ring he shows how much better heis.

Speaker 2 (01:39:15):
In the center of the ring.
Dude, if he just stays in thecenter, he will.

Speaker 1 (01:39:20):
It's not like he getting pushed to the corner
either.

Speaker 2 (01:39:22):
That's the crazy thing he's going to the corner.
Yeah, yeah, and in the samecorner, that same far right.

Speaker 1 (01:39:27):
Because when he was, he was, you know, guarding up
but moving forward in the middleof the ring at the same time,
Like he was too small.

Speaker 2 (01:39:34):
Yo, our guy Wade was too small.

Speaker 1 (01:39:37):
And then he leans forward.

Speaker 3 (01:39:39):
He did the same thing that Jermel Charlo did against
Brian Castaño in their firstfight, the one that was a draw,
like Castaño's a come-forwardpressure fighter, and Jermel
Charlo was putting himself onthe ropes.
And I'm like, what are you—likeI hate—I didn't like it, but it
worked Like I was wrong.
I was just nervous.
I was like, fuck, this isn'tthe way to win.
But, like, Shakur knows morethan I do, Let me read these

(01:40:03):
comments quick.

Speaker 2 (01:40:04):
Sorry guys, I'm new at this again.
Wilfam First, our guy who goesto every fight too.
Yo, this guy is a real one.
I love this dude.
He brings his kids to fights.
He goes to fights by himself.
Wilfam First says Shakur beatsTank in a boring 12-round fight.
I don't think Tank throwsenough for Shakur's defense.
Yeah, I could see that too.

(01:40:24):
Unless he gets knocked down,though, because when Tank does
throw and it's clear Shakur getshit Tank's going to try and set
him up.

Speaker 1 (01:40:30):
Both of them got great counters.
That's why it's going to belike a technical match, because
if somebody throws, I thinkShakur would probably just jab
the shit out of them all day.
But if they get a counter hit,it's going to be something.

Speaker 2 (01:40:44):
Sly Tendencies fan of our show always tunes in
Notified us that Instagram sucksJust stated Shakur had a point
to prove he gambled and it'spaying dividends.
Zepeda did the best thing hecould do for himself.
He watched Serrano try to boxwith a master boxer and lose.

(01:41:04):
I agree, but I also kind ofdisagree.
That's how Zepeda fights.

Speaker 3 (01:41:08):
He has no other way to fight.

Speaker 2 (01:41:13):
There's no other way.
Soul8823, who asked thatquestion earlier in regards to
the Berlanga fight, which we'regoing to get to shortly, said
Shakur could have made thatfight look a lot easier.
Shakur put himself at risk andwe just said that.
Yeah, I agree, he put himselfat risk by going to the corner.
Speaking of corners FourCorners, boxing says we were
screaming war, shakur Hell yeah,he did his thing.

Speaker 1 (01:41:38):
He proved people wrong.
He said he did everything hesaid he was going to do too, and
more so.
You know what I'm saying?
Big ups to Shakur Stevenson man.

Speaker 3 (01:41:47):
You still got people talking like oh he's boring, oh
he ran.
I'm like when did he run?
And then they're saying oh, youjust prefer amateur fights.
No no.
I was like he stood in front ofhim.
He put himself on the ropes andhe landed 200 power punches.
Put himself on the ropes and helanded 200 power punches.
What more do you want from me?

(01:42:07):
Yeah, you got people callinghim chinny still.
Anybody who's still hating onthat fight?

Speaker 2 (01:42:09):
specifically no, they don't know what, it's blatant
it's blatant hate like williesaid willie, willie, willie made
a good, good analysis of thefight.
He's like I.
I thought williams apata landeda lot more punches than what
you guys all saw, or whatever,but he definitely, definitely
lost and like that he definitelylost and even the caption in my
meme that I made after thatfight.

Speaker 3 (01:42:29):
The caption is props to the pay to because he's
looked better against Shakurthan anyone else has, but Shakur
still like.
I still gave him nine rounds.

Speaker 2 (01:42:37):
I didn't see the caption.
I just I just saw that giantMora gave Zapata five rounds.
Just so we're fucking clear,really, no, but what I say, but
what I say about mora.
Mora is a great analysis whenit's not a latino fighter, when
it's a latino fighter, dude morais the most biased dude ever.
And I I met mora recently,great guy.

(01:42:57):
This is my problem with thispodcast because I'm such a fan.
Great guy.
I liked him as a fighter, butas an analysis he just he holds
on to that latino bias way toomuch, man, and I get it.
It's hard to to break, but asan analysis you cannot do that,
no, and and you know what, liketarver was also doing some
stupid shit.

Speaker 3 (01:43:17):
He oh he heard him talk about like zapata, her
chakur, it's dude.
The punch didn't even land, itwas clearly on the glove and
he'd be like, oh, he hurt him.
I'm like, what is it?
I don't know who Barber saidZepeda hurt him six times in the
fight.

Speaker 1 (01:43:32):
Nobody got hurt in that fight.

Speaker 2 (01:43:34):
I'm sorry, I'm doing a million things at once.
Now.
This is really hard when you'redrunk.
I'm the drinker on the show,you show, you're the second and
willie's the third.
But uh, spirit of lfc fans saysour team you guys know
something about boxing.
It's scrolling up.
Our team possesses acomprehensive understanding of

(01:43:55):
the interest intricacies ofboxing.
Oh man, we're getting a lot ofcomments.
Uh, that's good, though.
That's good.
Yeah, I don't know who you are.
Yo DM me guy, and we're likedeep into the show too.
It's awesome.
I know we're deep in.
Sorry, this is shit.
I'm getting Instagram messages.
I'm all over the place.
I have ADD people chill out.

(01:44:15):
Nah, I'm just kidding.
Keep it coming.
You guys are making me coming.
My bad people need to shut thefuck up when calling him boring.
He did what he wanted him to dolast night and you're still my
bad.
People need to shut the fuck upwhen calling him boring.
He did what he wanted him to dolast night and you're still
complaining.
If you want to hear bitching,I'll call your baby mama.
That's from Ham Rothstein.

Speaker 1 (01:44:33):
Hey, don't call my baby mama.
I'm the only one here with ababy mama.

Speaker 2 (01:44:38):
Ham Rothstein states Mora is the Umar Johnson of
commentary when it comes to LaRaza, spirit of LFC fan says you
have no bias, no favoritism andno tribal mindset.
I mean I definitely havefavoritism, I'm not gonna lie,

(01:44:58):
as again for our new listenersand people just tuning in.
We are all just fans.
We are not experts.
We're just fans that are nerdsabout boxing and watch, just
tuning in.
We are all just fans.
We are not experts.
We're just fans that are nerdsabout boxing and watch it like
most podcasts are.
Uh, tmo dom just caught.
Oh my god, this is gonna turnit.
I need a producer.
Hey, if any of you people knowa goddamn producer, I'll pay.
Tmo dom just said uh, eyes,eyes, eyes, ayo, ayo, that's

(01:45:23):
your boy.

Speaker 1 (01:45:25):
All right going forward.

Speaker 2 (01:45:27):
We talked about Shakur.
Enough, let's keep it rolling.
David Murrell versus Imam Katoh no.

Speaker 1 (01:45:33):
What are you doing?
I'm drunk.
He's going way back.

Speaker 2 (01:45:37):
I have to pee.
I'm drunk.

Speaker 1 (01:45:39):
I gotta pee.
Bad dude.
Shout out to Shushu man.
Shushu just wrote me back.
I told him that he's getting abeard.
I said he's getting a beard.
He said puberty just came in.
What the?

Speaker 3 (01:45:49):
fuck.
He messages y'all back.

Speaker 2 (01:45:53):
Yo, actually I have to take a piss too.
Guys, stay here.
Willie, do you have to pee too?
Should we take a break?

Speaker 1 (01:46:01):
All these people just came in.
Y'all gotta take breaks.

Speaker 3 (01:46:03):
I'll answer some comments I can see them, I gotta
zoom in.

Speaker 2 (01:46:09):
He's gonna answer some comments.
Yo, we're actually gonna shoutsome shit out too, because I
really gotta pee and I drink,but then we're gonna chop up
Edgar Berlenga versus HamzaShiraz.
Let me go pee, I drink, goahead, fellas.
You see the comments comments.

Speaker 1 (01:46:23):
I can't even see them I I can see some of them.
Let me go to youtube hamrothstein.

Speaker 3 (01:46:27):
I'm here for my boy punchlines that bro is out.
I can't say that word, that brois out of pocket.
But I'm here for it.
Thanks, bro.
I actually used to be astand-up.
Yeah, bro, what you think?
I'm gonna ruin my career beforeit starts.

Speaker 1 (01:46:42):
Let me see what word he said.
I don't want to see it, papa.

Speaker 3 (01:46:45):
John's lost his empire saying that shit, the
fuck's going to happen to me.
What's your at on IG, bro?
I can say it yeah, you want toread his comment for me, he said
that nigga out of pocket.

Speaker 1 (01:47:00):
I'm here for it.

Speaker 3 (01:47:02):
Yeah, I am.
I'm super out of pocket.
It's a risk.
Yeah, that risk got me two jobsin boxing to where I can
actually help fighters now,which I'm very grateful for yeah
, you're funny as hell, bro, Ikeep on going with your shit,
man yeah, when I get in the zone, I get in the zone.
But uh, yeah, ham, what's your?

(01:47:23):
What's your at on ig?
I'm not, I don't recognize yourname.
I, I'm sorry, but yeah, no,dude, the Shakur fight was my
favorite fight, bro.
Like I get so tense, like evenif it's a big fight, like I get
like my legs like shake a littlebit, like I have to, like I

(01:47:45):
lean forward, like with myelbows on my knees and like
holding my chin like this andstuff, because like I'm not like
Kuma, where he's like yellingand getting amped up.
I like it's like it's fourthand six with 10 seconds left,
and like like you need the firstdown.
Like like I get like that whenwhen my guys fight, especially
like a dude, I talk a lot ofshit.
Especially when it's for myfighters, I talk a lot of shit.

(01:48:06):
So like if they lose, it'sgoing to come down on me and I'm
going to be like, because Italk a lot of shit, I'm going to
have to eat that.
So it's like it's a lot ofpressure.

Speaker 2 (01:48:16):
Oh good, I feel like a million bucks now.

Speaker 1 (01:48:20):
Okay, but that should have been the main event.
Though I don't care what theysay, man, that was better than
the main event.
You know what I'm saying?
It should have been the mainevent.
It was for belt shakur.
Had everybody there.
Everybody showed up really forshakur, for the most part all
the all the you know famousboxers there that's.

Speaker 3 (01:48:40):
That's a recent trend , though, if you think about it
like the jake paul card, wedidn't care about the jake paul
card fight.
We cared more about kid andtevin, or even zerto and
dortico's however you say hisname uh, the the veto fight.
We obviously cared more aboutjahai and truck jahai was at
this fight too.
Shout out to him, yeah yeah, hemessaged me this weekend too.

(01:49:03):
Shout out to him and then Ilove jahai bro.
He's so cool.
Um, but then the fight thisweekend not that we're going to
get into it, but what I'm sayingis obviously, barrios Pacquiao
is the main event.
I care way more about SueFundora.

Speaker 2 (01:49:15):
We're going to get into that too.
Though Now that we're rolling,Willie, you good.
I'm going to go grab a LaCroix.
What did I miss?
I just took a piss.

Speaker 1 (01:49:28):
No, he was just shouting out people.

Speaker 2 (01:49:30):
Four Corners said go take a piss bro.

Speaker 3 (01:49:34):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (01:49:34):
Four Corners.
I don't know how y'all do this.
This shit is hard.
I got like ADD bro.
They do this a lot.
Yo, follow Four Corners.
If you are following, they'reat every fight.
We meet them.
We actually met at fights.
But um Yo, if this keeps up,I'm going to have to wear a
diaper.

Speaker 1 (01:49:48):
He says Shiraz should have came out to fucking.
Lean back instead of fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:49:53):
I got something to say about that too.
Once Punch gets back, we'regoing to Enough with the Shakur
talk.
That was fun.
We're going to get into themain event itself, and then we
have to preview fights.

Speaker 1 (01:50:02):
You're good, right, Willie?
I know Willie's a working man.

Speaker 2 (01:50:04):
I'm going to get help tomorrow morning probably yeah,
I just gotta wake up yeah weagain, again for our new
listeners we're just fans.
Uh, we just, we just do this asfans so we and I work 1 30 am.

Speaker 3 (01:50:16):
Yeah, we'll get up we're gonna get work you guys
aren't just fans, you are nowbrand ambassadors, bro oh, oh,
I'm oh shit, I'm a brandambassador for playing
ironically brand yeah, I forgot.

Speaker 1 (01:50:30):
I got your high shit on right now.

Speaker 3 (01:50:33):
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(01:50:53):
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Speaker 2 (01:51:09):
They just did Jahai shirts.
Show them, Willie.
They just did Jahai shirts,Game 7.
Jahai designed it himself.
Game 7 on that fight was onGame 7 of the NBA Finals.
They did Jahai shirt.
I have one of their old shirts.
On it is an Artur Beterbiev Onthe back it's him fighting.
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Speaker 3 (01:51:31):
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Speaker 2 (01:51:34):
We're trying to do something different.
Hold on, hold on.
Let me read these comments.
This is tough.
How do you all do this?
I'm not a good streamer.
Mike Ladero says I'm thebiggest.
Did you guys read that already?
I'm the biggest Morel fan ever,ever, but that dude lost last
night.
The only the only argument Ican make for morel is that he

(01:51:55):
finished stronger that's athat's a real and that's yeah,
that's a real fan bro this guy'sname is lose asshole.
That's so fucking funny loseasshole says if hamza came out
to lean back will said thatbefore I would have passed out.

Speaker 3 (01:52:10):
That's true, I'm here for a second.
Get your hands off my penis,girth Brooks says damn dude
these names.

Speaker 2 (01:52:19):
Are we getting trolled?

Speaker 1 (01:52:21):
Yeah, we are I hope so.

Speaker 2 (01:52:24):
If we are, it's the Girth Brooks of old ever.
Yeah, you guys are good trollsI love.
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Speaker 1 (01:52:33):
Thank you, bro.
What I didn't want to say, thatThank you, Girth.

Speaker 3 (01:52:38):
I actually helped a lot of the designs.
I helped make MichaelAngeletti's shirt.
I helped make Regis Progray'sshirt.

Speaker 2 (01:52:48):
You know what they did for me.
Thanks for playing you onto ourshow, though, and brought us
together, so that was cool.
That was cool to see how thisshit works, but yo.

Speaker 1 (01:52:55):
Yo, will you better go get you that shoe York
freaking shirt man for the nextfight, the 26th Yo do they have.
Do you know?

Speaker 2 (01:53:06):
So Will this guy Punchlines?
He's like the thanks forplaying.
He's the guy.
I don't know how, what's yourtitle?
I don't even know.
He's the guy, though, forthanks for playing.

Speaker 3 (01:53:16):
Uh, I don't really have a title I I well, I'm their
recruiter, like whenever yousee us sponsor fighters, like
all, but like three of them arelike me just reaching out to
these guys, or like people Iknow getting me in contact with,
like you, with jai, so yo will.

Speaker 2 (01:53:31):
I'm not.
I have.
I have a question and I have arequest.
Uh, will is like a big fan ofthe show.
I met him at the fights.
Will is the guy I don't want to.
Whatever.
Will is a real dude.
All right, he's a.
He's a real new york dude.
He's going to be at shu shu'sfight fight on that card coming
up at the end of the month.
We're not making shirts forthis fight, but do they have?

Speaker 3 (01:53:55):
any Shoe York shirts left, I would have to check.
We have like four Shoe Shoeshirts on there.

Speaker 2 (01:54:00):
Yeah, but the Shoe York ones, the Shoe Yuriko ones,
or you mean the old ones.
Yeah, yeah, he said no, he saidno.
I need that shoe York Ricanenlarged for the next fight.
No large on the website.

Speaker 3 (01:54:14):
Yeah, unfortunately there's not going to be any more
.
That shirt's over a year old.
Fuck, because, dude, we have toprint another run of Rohan
Polanco's shirts because we soldout of the first batch.

Speaker 1 (01:54:26):
Damn.

Speaker 3 (01:54:32):
We got to make shirts , for we gotta print regis's
shirts.
Now we have to make more shirtsfor jahai, because he wants to
sell some, so we're gonna makesome for him, and then, we we
got that retro line coming outtoo.

Speaker 2 (01:54:39):
We're eventually gonna have to start making those
sly tendencies just said aboutthe shirts not to change topic,
and I'm not um.
Hold on this stupid again.
I'm bad at this.
It was about thanks for playing, though.
How do I get?
Why is it like that?

Speaker 3 (01:54:54):
oh, I see what he's saying.

Speaker 2 (01:54:56):
I'm not sure he said I'm putting an order together.
Thanks for playing.
Can I mention you guys?
Not for a discount, just tolike for us, but uh, you'd be,
you'd know that I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:55:08):
I don't know if there's like a comment section
on the order, but and then I runthe IG.
So if he sends it to the IG,I'm just going to read it.

Speaker 2 (01:55:18):
Will Pham said I got that black and yellow lightning
already.
It's all good 100.
Yo Will DM me for shirts thatcome out and I'll see what I
could do for you, because wehave like something going on
behind the scenes, you know whatFuck it?

Speaker 3 (01:55:32):
Give me your address, I'll send you mine.
What the?

Speaker 2 (01:55:35):
Shoe York.

Speaker 3 (01:55:37):
Yeah, mine's a no, not Shoe York, Shoe Eureka.

Speaker 2 (01:55:39):
Oh Shoe, Eureka.

Speaker 3 (01:55:40):
Yeah, I got a size large.
I can try to get it to him bythe fight.

Speaker 2 (01:55:44):
Will?
You heard that?
Probably a.

Speaker 3 (01:55:46):
It's probably a little delay, but it's a little
flaked up because I've watchedit a few times, but I'll send it
to you.

Speaker 2 (01:55:54):
He said it's all good .

Speaker 1 (01:55:55):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:55:57):
Well, I don't know if he said it's all good to the X.

Speaker 1 (01:55:59):
I think he said that before.

Speaker 2 (01:56:02):
Yeah, yeah, Damn dude .

Speaker 1 (01:56:03):
How do I?

Speaker 2 (01:56:03):
need.
That's some real shit too,though.
Yeah, damn Will, he's a realone too.
Man, yeah, yeah, grab whateveryou want.
All right, uh, let's just getinto it.
Um, once willie comes back fromhis water.
Damn, you know we, we, you knowme, and punchlines were just
talking like tricks and andthings we need to do to make

(01:56:24):
this show less than an hour.
You know, he said you, thefucking man yo shout out, shout
out your Instagram again, punch,so he could DM you yeah,
message me at either punchlinesunderscore boxing or thanks for
playing shop, or just messagePuma.
Will just hit me up and I'llgive him that address.

(01:56:45):
Good looking out.
He's a real one too cool.
Alright, Yo.
Good looking out.

Speaker 3 (01:56:53):
Yo, he's a real one too Like for real, for real,
Cool Cool cool, cool.

Speaker 2 (01:56:56):
All right, we haven't even talked about the main
event.
I know we got to talk about themain event and then we got to
preview fights.
So Willie, yeah, willie, goingto be sleepy at work, bro, all
right.

Speaker 1 (01:57:09):
Let's just get right.

Speaker 2 (01:57:10):
Work, bro, all right.
Let's just get right, it's allright.
No, this was, this was a fun.
That makes it so much fun, bro,yo, and if you guys that are
the investment man.

Speaker 1 (01:57:17):
You know I'm saying we're doing this shit for fun,
we're doing this.
Just keep the podcast going,man.
We, this shit has been the bestlike years of my life.
If I wasn't like doing thisshit, I would literally be
probably at home because I getbored.
Now I don't like to do shit, Ibring.

Speaker 2 (01:57:34):
Willie outside, you make me come back outside.

Speaker 1 (01:57:37):
I'm usually a party person.
That's the crazy.
I was a party person.

Speaker 2 (01:57:41):
Now I'm back outside, willie actually calms me down,
bro, I do.
If there's a fight, let's justgo chill and watch the fight at
home.
I'm wild, I just keep going.

Speaker 1 (01:57:54):
Yeah, I'd like to be home now bro.

Speaker 2 (01:57:57):
But enough about us.
This ain't about us, slyTendencies says.
By the way, I saw Hamza saythat he talked with Berlenga's
dad.
He's in the hospital with aconcussion.
He said him and Berlenga arecool.
Sly also said y'all need to puta cash app up.
I'll break bread.
I listen to boxing shows allthe time and they're ass.

(01:58:18):
This is the only one I like.
Yo, you don't.
We don't need money, bro.
This is not about money, but Ijust creamed my pants.

Speaker 1 (01:58:29):
You know what you could do for us?
Share it for now.
Yeah, just tell your friendsand I'm gonna send you yo, I
have a sly.

Speaker 2 (01:58:35):
I know I talked to you in the dms.
I have an order in for the freemerch.
Actually I some people will hitme up I guess I said I give
them free merch too.
There's an order in for freemerch from the sparring.
Nothing to do with with thanksfor playing, but I got free
merch coming, you know when you.

Speaker 3 (01:58:48):
When you get your shirts, Jesse, if you want to
play Sparring on game or in thelight, just share it to your
story, the shirts, and say shoutout to Sparring for putting me
on game, to thanks for playing.
Whatever, I'll share it to thethanks for playing story because
the owner follows the page.
You know he's checking what I'mposting and stuff like that and

(01:59:11):
he'll see it.

Speaker 2 (01:59:12):
so that goes for all the thanks for playing.
People just always repost itand show it.
It's all about social media.
Now, four corners just saidwhere you're watching the fights
this weekend.
Actually, four corners.
I'm excited to say I amwatching these fights right here
in the spartan.
I am so excited for thatbecause it's been a while.
July, as you know, you're inNew York.

(01:59:33):
July has been not rough roughin a good way for the boxing fan
.
There's been so many fights inNew York and we all like to go
to all of them.
This weekend I am sitting myass right here.
You can't see it right now, butthe setup is nice and I am
watching the fights here, doingabsolutely nothing.
Willie might be there with me,we'll eat some pizza, get fat,

(01:59:54):
but we are having an old-schoollittle boxing thing going on and
I'm excited.
Not that we didn't have fun.

Speaker 1 (02:00:02):
No, yeah, there's a lot going on.

Speaker 2 (02:00:05):
I'm actually going to miss the shoo-shoo fight.
I'm going to miss that wholecard in MSG which I actually
feel guilty about.
I'm going to Florida but I'mwatching.
Another Thanks for Playingfighter Lorenzo Medina
heavyweight.
He's on his come up, comingback.
There's big things coming forhim.
He said can four corners pullup, bro?

(02:00:27):
I'm out on Long Island, dm mefour corners, we will chat.
We will chat pull up for real.

Speaker 1 (02:00:34):
Yeah, that'd be fire yeah I live in oasis, idaho.

Speaker 2 (02:00:37):
I watch all the fights from home, yeah he uh, yo
will fam first again shout outto you because I I see you in
every fight and you're like us.
We don't, we don't take freetickets.
We don't free tickets.
I could get a press pass.
I have connections to get apress pass.
We don't want a press pass.
We are fans, we are paying toplay and Will is just like that.

Speaker 1 (02:00:58):
Will is just like that and he has a whole family
with him, always got his sonswith him, though that's a real
dude right there I think theyPuerto Rican too.
He's black.
They Puerto Rican too, but he'sblack and Puerto Rican Like me.
I got me mixed babies black andPuerto Rican.

Speaker 2 (02:01:11):
Terracotta Pie.
Yo, we're getting fucking.

Speaker 3 (02:01:16):
Is that a down?

Speaker 2 (02:01:17):
song.
Yo are you making names overthere, punchlines?
This has to be Terracotta Pie.
Terracotta Pie just said Ididn't think a fight at the
tennis center was a good idea,but that shit was lit.
Great show.
I saw Clarissa cakes from fromthe nosebleeds.
My man you should have had myview.

Speaker 3 (02:01:36):
You should have had my view.

Speaker 2 (02:01:38):
I was and I mean this in the most respectful way I
can I was in that cake.
I was.
I was scratching and sniffingand eating, anyway, that's all
you could see.
I missed the whole damn fightbecause I was in them.
Cheeks, bro.
All right, let's get into it.
I'm actually going to crackanother beer.
Willie, you could shout outthis next fight while I open

(02:01:58):
this beer.
The main event quote unquote.
We are deep in.
We have another probably hourto go.
Edgar Berlanga versus HamzaShiraz.
Recap of the main event.

Speaker 1 (02:02:11):
Willie, what did you think?
It started off with drama.
That's what it is.
It definitely started off withdrama, because we saw Egan come
out.
I forgot where Shiraz came outto.
I thought he was kind of boring.
He came out after Fourdifferent songs, his songs right
, what was it?
He came out to a New York song.
Nah, it was too much shit goingon when we was there.
I just know when edgar came out, it was like a lot of drama

(02:02:34):
because he came out, the fat joefat joe lean back hey, it
wasn't lean back, though, was it.

Speaker 2 (02:02:39):
No, was it yeah, no, it wasn't, was it no he didn't
come out to lean back.

Speaker 1 (02:02:44):
He came out whatever really my verse, ain't it?
I'm not bugging, nah we wasdoing a lean back.

Speaker 2 (02:02:47):
Yes, we was.

Speaker 1 (02:02:47):
We dead ass.
Let's lean back.
I'm not bugging.
Nah, we was doing a lean back?
Yes, we was.
We was deadass doing a leanback, were we?
Yes, we were.

Speaker 2 (02:02:55):
Yo, you're right, you were, you were, we just lost
punch.
Yeah, remy Ma came out.

Speaker 1 (02:03:00):
No, we were doing lean back.
That's where everybody started,everybody doing lean back.

Speaker 2 (02:03:05):
Yeah, you corners, confirmed, punch, punch you
fucking up right now.
Good, can you see me?

Speaker 3 (02:03:14):
I can see you now.

Speaker 2 (02:03:15):
I don't know what you just did, you good.

Speaker 3 (02:03:18):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 2 (02:03:19):
Yeah, you're like breaking up, Hold on, hold on
y'all.
But yeah, it was lean back.

Speaker 3 (02:03:27):
You're right, yo, willie.

Speaker 2 (02:03:29):
So those that don't know, willie's actually like a
dancer.

Speaker 1 (02:03:31):
He's like a legit dancer and he's not back that
yeah, you're back, you're back Ido tap ballet, all that and
like he's good at it, so we uh,we, we're gonna lean back comes
on and then I'm like I'mlistening to it.
Ah, we were all doing lean back, and then they go into remy
miles verse.
I'm like why are?
Why are they playing Remy Ma'svoice?
And you know, clarissa here, Idid not see the whole time.

(02:03:53):
I didn't see it until todaywhen I seen, like the Instagram
reels and shit, that Remy Ma wasthere.

Speaker 2 (02:04:00):
You don't remember though.
You don't remember though, bro,and again I'm the token white
guy, but you don't remember Iwas like yo, bro.
They really like look who theybrought out with him.
Nah, you didn't remember that.
I did not see.
I'm like holy shit.

Speaker 1 (02:04:11):
And you know, everybody's standing up and I'm
like I'm short.
I'm like 5'5".
We got fucking Yachty.
Everybody over there is justtall and I'm like yo, why are
they playing this?
This is awkward for Clarissa,clarissa, mad quiet, poof right
there, mad quiet, right there,all next to us.

Speaker 2 (02:04:29):
I'm like damn, this is getting crazy and I'm not
gonna lie, clarissa was she justactually left?
Boatseye was the guy she took,yeah, took a seat.
How do you say his name again?
I always say it wrong Batsy,boatseye, boatseye, boatseye,
yeah, so he was sitting in frontof us the whole fight.
So he was sitting in front ofus the whole fight.
Cool ass dude, real cool.

(02:04:49):
Clarissa came just for Shakurand was like yo, you in my seat.

Speaker 1 (02:04:54):
Nah, nah, she didn't say that.
Come on, man.

Speaker 3 (02:04:58):
She came out and sat ringside.

Speaker 2 (02:04:59):
Yeah that was cool.
Yeah, we saw it.

Speaker 1 (02:05:02):
I don't think she said that to him.

Speaker 2 (02:05:03):
Bro, she was like yo, you in my seat, you in my seat
Yo.

Speaker 1 (02:05:06):
She was a passionate fan of Shakur.
She was just like yo.
Can we switch seats for aShakur fight?
That's what she said Yo get thefuck Yo you're being friendly.

Speaker 2 (02:05:13):
No, she did, bro William's being friendly bro.
No, you dragging it out whenshe said that I wasn't drunk
this time you can't, I was soberas shit you dragging it.

Speaker 1 (02:05:21):
I didn't see it.
She did have like like yo, yoyou gotta switch, go sit next to
my husband.

Speaker 2 (02:05:33):
Uh well, pat poops, they weren't beefing, but he
moved.

Speaker 1 (02:05:34):
Yeah, he moved and then he came back.
He came back, but anyway, sothat.
So the lean back came on.
Whatever they remy, ma, thatshit started a whole drama.
I'm like, yeah, this is gettinggreat.
The fight came on.
I'm like yo, this is fire.
But shiraz, he, shiraz lookedat good in the beginning of the
fight.
I'm like, wait, hold, wait,hold up.
Belanger, he can't.
It looked like he was just off.
He looked shook, he lookedscared of him.

(02:05:56):
I'm like yo, this is it.
Looked like a limited fighter.
Yo, he was not All the shit, hewas talking.
I'm thinking six round knockoutEverybody else around us like
yo, he gonna knock him out.
Then we had the Muslim girlsbehind us right there.
They was all behind us and allthat, fossil almost caught a
charge.
Fossil what?

Speaker 2 (02:06:17):
did he do?
What did Fossil do?
For those that don't know,Fossil was my first co-host ever
.
He's why we really started this.
I used to box with him back inthe day.

Speaker 1 (02:06:25):
No, I was making a joke because I was saying y'all
all look alike because y'allnose and shit.

Speaker 2 (02:06:30):
That's why we brought Fossil, actually because if you
guys know me, which some of youhere do, I get pretty rowdy at
fights, but this was my firstactual Turk card like Turkey out
of sheet card.
I was like, let me bring Fossil.
His mom is actually Arabic,which I don't know.
Disrespect, I just needed someprotection.

Speaker 1 (02:06:48):
That was crazy.
That no disrespect I justneeded some protection.
So that fight was crazy thoughI ain't gonna lie.
It was a good fight early.
It was yo.

Speaker 2 (02:06:55):
I and I I talked about this in the beginning of
the show and I'm going to go offwith my take real quick, but
but longer put so much pressureon himself that he did not need
to put on himself.
Yeah, you kept on saying thatLike like pressure on himself
that he did not need to put onhimself.
Yeah, you kept on saying that,like, like he put, he literally
put new york on his back and letthat be known and and maybe he
needed that to motivate him orsomething, and and that's fine.

(02:07:17):
But, dude, like, like new yorkis new york, like it's the
biggest city in the world andI'm not saying that because
we're from here, but we're avery passionate fan base and I
recall yourself, the king of newyork, without a belt.
Exactly, you're callingyourself the king of new york
and you're making arguments ofwhy you're the king of new york

(02:07:37):
and and and you kind of lit afire in a nice guy in shiraz,
and I think that's what thedifference was.
You made shiraz hate your gutswith all his shit talking stuff.
He made shiraz like, no, no,I'm gonna do whatever I can to
knock you out.

Speaker 3 (02:07:52):
Shiraz even checked him in the press conferences
because he kept for longer, keptsaying like, oh Shiraz, better
not run, better not run.
He's like.
How do you say that when youran for 12 rounds versus Canelo
you?
Know so someone had nothing tosay and everybody started
laughing at him.

Speaker 2 (02:08:05):
Someone's making fun of me.
I like it.
Soul 8823 said lmao fromkingston, you're absolutely
right, I'm from kingston, newyork, upstate new york, still
new york.
Suck my dick, soul.
I probably bullied you in highschool, you little loser, anyway
, uh, but but for real, um, he,he put that pressure on himself.

(02:08:28):
He had everyone around him.
I think he had a lot of, yes,men around him.
You know what I'm saying, like,because if I'm in his corner
I'm like yo, chill with all that, chill with all that.
Let's just box, let's beat thisguy.
You have a shot to beat thisguy.
He's a little.
No, I'm sorry, no, you're good,he's a little inflated.
He's a little inflated, let'sbeat this guy.

(02:08:48):
How do we beat this fucking guy?
New York though this is New YorkUpstate too.
He had upstate New York backinghim too, you bum ass.

Speaker 1 (02:08:59):
Who are you?
He had New York backing him.
A little light in New York isbigger than you being a man in
like Kentucky.
If you're the man in.

Speaker 2 (02:09:10):
Kentucky if you got a little light in New York.

Speaker 1 (02:09:13):
That's how you feel he just felt that he's just a
real.

Speaker 2 (02:09:16):
You know, and I don't mean to bring him up again.
You know who's a good exampleof that, who?
Tia Fimo.
Tia Fimo is from Florida.
He was born in Brooklyn andclaimed Brooklyn.
Right, I thought you was aboutto say something else.

Speaker 1 (02:09:27):
No to your female bro .

Speaker 2 (02:09:28):
I mean, that's what you're saying.
A good comparison.
I don't know if that's a good.
Oh shit, my bad.
Sol, he said I was sayingfossils from Kingston.
Oh damn, my bad.
He is too.
That's my friend.
This shit is delayed.
I'm coming at people.
Berlanga has always been a cancrusher.

(02:09:49):
He did all right against canelo, but that's it.
He didn't even do all rightagainst canelo.
In my opinion, someone else andlet's just stick to the fight.
Enough about the semantics,let's just stick to the fight
itself.
Canelo, canelo to me, punch,stop moving.
This guy's giving me a seizure.
Canelo to me could have got himout of there.

(02:10:13):
Could have got Berlenga out ofthere.
Chose not to Like.
Canelo got mad that Berlengawas like getting a little dirty,
remember, yeah, and he stopped.
He's like I'm not going to tryand kill this guy.
That was just what I saw.
Some fossil said something no,you.
You said you were like, no, hewas trying.
I was like, yeah, he was trying.

Speaker 1 (02:10:35):
But like I feel like Canelo eased up, I don't, it's
like Belanga was moving aroundlast, but Belanga was trying to
fight in the inside, this fightso, and they didn't throw
nothing.
What you were saying, that'swhat you were saying.
He was in the inside and didnot throw nothing.

Speaker 2 (02:10:47):
So you know what Berlenga did do.
That was good.

Speaker 1 (02:10:50):
His jab was amazing.
I ain't going to lie to you.

Speaker 2 (02:10:52):
No, no, no.
You know what he did do.
That was good, but he didn'texecute it Was?
He watched the Adames fight,right?
And when he got in trouble, hetried to fight like Adames,
adames.
I'm sorry, adames, adames,adames, leave me alone, stop
drinking, I'm coming now.
He tried to fight like Adamusright and he put his chin down

(02:11:15):
right and he tried to go on theinside, but he didn't.
He was there, he was rightthere, but he didn't fight on
the inside.
He didn't throw no punches andwhen he did.

Speaker 3 (02:11:25):
It was all to the head, it was all hooks.
The dude's got a body like thisbig around.

Speaker 2 (02:11:31):
He threw one body punch and then Shiraz learned
from the Adamas fight, and whatShiraz did was like oh, I've
been here before, I didn't lookthat great, and he was tagging
Berlanga up, and that's when theknockout came.
I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (02:11:48):
He was like he was reminding me of Fandora, a
little bit Like lanky, tall,just throwing hooks and shit
inside the pocket.
I'm like whoa, I didn't evennotice.
James had this in his bag.
I didn't know.

Speaker 3 (02:11:58):
The difference between him and Fandora, because
this is what the point I wasgoing to make was.
Early on, berlinda triedfighting him from the outside,
and Shiraz isn't Fandora.
The dude has a killer jab.
It's arguably his best punch.
He knocked out liam williamswith it in the first round.

Speaker 2 (02:12:17):
Bro, he's got a and he was tagging adamus with it
and we talked about that thelast.
We talked about that the lastepisode.
We're like that's like the key,that's the key.
And I said too, I was like guyswith styles like berlanga, I'm
sorry, guys with style like, uh,shiraz berlanga has has
problems with styles like shirazberlanga has problems, but

(02:12:40):
shiraz didn't show that thatstyle in this fight and I think
that, like I said earlier, wasthe reason for that was because
he was fucking, he got mad.
He was like I'm gonna, I'mtrying to knock this dude the
fuck out because of all the shit.
Berlanga talk.
Berlanga put a, put a fake gunto his head and and pulled the
trigger times, yeah.
And then berlanga did have newyork on his back.

(02:13:03):
I had.
I had a lot of people come upto me like yo, I like berlanga
swagger, that's real new yorkcity, which is cool and that's
good if that's what you're goingfor.
But you got to fight my guy.
You got to fight and that'snothing against him.

Speaker 1 (02:13:15):
Surrounders look like the old school gangs in New
York.
He's like put him up.
He had his hands up.
I'm like hold on.
What kind of style is thisright here?
That jab was coming Both ofthey had nice jabs Both of them
had nice jabs that night.

Speaker 2 (02:13:32):
I don't know what happened to them.
Listen, listen, I'm actually.
I met Berlanga multiple times.
You was gambling with him.
I used to gamble with Berlangaduring COVID.
He had like some weird gamblingring going on.
I like Berlanga a lot as aperson.
I want him to recover from this.
I'm always going to root forNew York, no matter what,
whether you're from upstate,downstate, wherever you're from
in New York, I'm obviously TeamNew York right.

(02:13:55):
Even if you piss me off, darylMiller.
Even if you piss me off, I'mrooting for New York.
I hope Berlanger recovers fromthis and I hope he trains well.

Speaker 3 (02:14:07):
That was the point I was trying to make earlier.
When you watch him traininglike, oh, he's getting better.
It's like he's getting betterat the things he was already
good at.
He's not working on the thingshe's not good at.
It's like I'm a huge jaguarsfan.
Right love trevor lawrence.
Dude's got an amazing deep ball.
He's got great velocity overthe middle.
Talent, talent, talent workingon that shit.
Yeah, you gotta get like workon these short throws that you

(02:14:31):
miss.
Work on these post snap readsthat you've been messing up like
work on then pressure likeberlanga he.
He was just an I don't know howto explain it an improved
version of what he already was,but not good enough to beat
these top guys.
Because hom Hamzat was calm,bro.
He was calm Kind of like Tankwas calm against Roley.

(02:14:53):
It's like eventually this guyis going to make a mistake.

Speaker 2 (02:14:56):
And when he did, he got caught, like we've talked
about before, maybe a fewepisodes ago, but you were on
the show Punch.
There's two tiers in thatweight division, right?
168,.
Right, yeah, there's two tiersin that weight division, right,
168, right, yeah, there's twotiers in that weight division.
There's canelo, and thenthere's his leftovers and like

(02:15:18):
his hamza isn't.
He doesn't.
We don't know what hamza is yet.
He looked bad against the damesor adamus, whatever you guys
call him, and yeah, but he's notthere yet, right?
But?
But when you asked me a whileback what's the best fight to
make?
What's your best fight to makeright now, what was my response
to you is, it was it's all ofcanelo's leftovers versus one

(02:15:38):
another, right and like theyneed to prove themselves and
then fight canelo.
Canelo is the biggest problemwith this weight division
because he's inflating peoplefucking.
Berlanga had a parade, bro.
He had a parade for losing.
Like he's inflating peopleFucking.
Berlanga had a parade, bro, hehad a parade for losing.

Speaker 1 (02:15:52):
He's inflating these people.
That little light in New York.
Just put a battery in your back, man Boy Slot said.

Speaker 3 (02:16:00):
He said fucking you gotta know better than that.

Speaker 1 (02:16:03):
Slot said honestly felt like Oscar was the main
reason Berlanga looked so bad.

Speaker 2 (02:16:10):
Berlanga just roasted his.
He was a roast to the shadowand Berlanga and his corner
surrounded by yes-men.
The biggest problem in boxingis like everyone wants to be a
rock star and the modern-dayversion of rock star is rap star
.
So everybody wants to be a rapstar, right.
But just because you make somemoney, you're not a rap star.

(02:16:31):
And that's why these boxers goso broke when the end comes Like
you're a rock star to a veryniche, whatever you say, just
like a Dom's, a Damus market.

Speaker 1 (02:16:43):
You're not a rock star, yet the diamonds is
glistening to the fucking pawnshop.
That goes for all of us.
Right back to the pawn shopwhere they go broke.
Diamonds is glistening.
Oh, they be rented.
We found out that they rentchains Hell yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:16:59):
Will Fanfer says Berlanga is good but not top
tier.
Plant is the fight to make.
Now, Again, plant is in thatcategory.

Speaker 1 (02:17:07):
Plant is in that category.
That's Punch Man's right thereAlso, though, and again, plant
is in that category.

Speaker 2 (02:17:10):
Plant is in that category that's Punch Man's
right there.
It's not going to happen.
And also, though, Plant is inthat category of Canelo's
leftovers.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:17:15):
But you know what, though?
There's other guys too, rightLike they can actually do a
really good Super 6 tournamentright now, because you got Nbili
, you got Shiraz, you gotPacheco, you gotester Martinez,
there's a lot of guys at 168that aren't Canelo leftovers and
they're on the come up.

Speaker 2 (02:17:35):
No, there is there is , but I still feel Canelo is the
.
I love Canelo.
I'm not a Canelo hater andagain, I think he beats Terrence
Crawford.
He's not being Crawford.
I think he beats TerrenceCrawford.
What about the outbox him?
I'm rooting for TerrenceCrawford.
He's not being.
I think he beats TerrenceCrawford.
What about the outboxed him?
I'm rooting for TerrenceCrawford.
We'll talk about that in a fewweeks, but I think he beats
Terrence Crawford right.

(02:17:55):
But Canelo right now, withthese belts, is the problem with
168.
Nobody knows what they'refighting for.
What are these guys fightingfor?

Speaker 3 (02:18:07):
Money?

Speaker 1 (02:18:10):
There's not even enough money though none of them
really have a name to even getthose that type of money you
know who?

Speaker 2 (02:18:19):
the smartest guy in boxing right now is who?
William Skull.
That is the smartest guy inboxing because he seriously has
sensed this and was like I'mjust gonna go get canelo and get
a bag.
I got ties with whatever beltsanctions.
This boom, got a bag gotunscathed, went out unscathed

(02:18:40):
and is rich as hell.
Like now.
Nobody wants to see him fightagain, but it don't matter.

Speaker 1 (02:18:44):
He has that bag like it's like for that fight too but
if he do get a fight, you know,and then he's, he beats up
whoever he fights next, then he.
But oh shit, he can fight.
Uh, then he's right back at thegame he's, and then he already
made the canelo leftovers.

Speaker 2 (02:19:01):
Now he's in the canelo left, yeah, yeah, like
it's, it's crazy, dude, likeit's annoying, and that's why,
like I don't want to go off onanother tangent, I'm a little
tipsy now, but I'm gonna.
Here we go and we, we got a lotto catch up on you, good willie
.

Speaker 1 (02:19:15):
What the hell are you about to say now?

Speaker 2 (02:19:17):
that's why the the biggest blemish on it's like the
steroid era in baseball.
The biggest blemish on canelo'scareer is the benavidez duck
yeah it, dude, it's the I.

Speaker 3 (02:19:28):
I said this to an mma fan.
I was like canelo benavidez isour version of john jones versus
tom aspinall yeah, biggestblemish, biggest blemish and
yeah, it's fucking it's, it'sand and and.

Speaker 2 (02:19:43):
Listen again, I'm gonna bring him up again.
He's.
He was at the show with usfossils a huge canelo fan, right
?
The guy that my old co-hostthat went to the show with us
Fossil's a huge Canelo fan,right?
The guy that my old co-hostthat went to the show with us
Willie, you're much better, butour old co-host that went to the
show with us Good friend ofmine, same thing.
He's a big Canelo fan, and partof the reason he's off the show
is because you just have tohold.
You can't just be a fan.

(02:20:05):
When TO fucks up, I say TO's aretard, you have to like I
didn't say that word, I don'tget to.
You know what I mean, though.

Speaker 3 (02:20:15):
I get called a Canelo hater all the time, but it's
like I'm not a hater Because Ihave Canelo shirts.
I have a Canelo hat.
I used to love watching Canelo.
Of course I'm critical of himbecause there's been a lot of
steps taken in his recent careerthat are criticizable.
If that's even a word, there'sroom to criticize there.

Speaker 1 (02:20:37):
How the hell did we even get to Canelo?
Because it's the 168 fight yeah168.

Speaker 2 (02:20:44):
He's holding him hostage.

Speaker 3 (02:20:45):
Turkey wants Shiraz to fight Canelo.
Anyway, you said that shitthough right?

Speaker 2 (02:20:50):
Yeah, he does, of course he does.
Who doesn't, who doesn't?
Canelo is the cash cow rightnow.
Canelo is the cash cow.
Will Pham first says I thinkCrawford's foot movement will
win him the fight.
I mean, coming up.

Speaker 3 (02:21:04):
two weight classes we got too many other fights.

Speaker 2 (02:21:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah Will .
We can't get into that.

Speaker 3 (02:21:09):
dissecting that, that's like four months away.

Speaker 1 (02:21:11):
Yeah, all right 168, do Gotham Killers.

Speaker 2 (02:21:16):
Let me pull up the box record.
I didn't even preview thesefights because, again, I'm going
to go off the cuff with these,but we do have to preview some
fights.
This is a long, two-hour and21-minute episode of reviews.
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