March 10, 2025 • 46 mins
Troy "The Transformer" Isley discusses his rise to becoming a top-10 ranked middleweight and his upcoming fight on March 29th on the Mayer-Ryan 2 card in Las Vegas. As a disciplined boxer with Olympic pedigree, Isley shares insights on his career journey, training philosophy, and championship aspirations under trainer BOMAC's guidance. As well as a behind the scenes look at Isley's great personality outside of what we see when he's performing in the ring.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
it's time for the main event it's the sparring
podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Oh, it's a knockout, yo.
What is going on, it is pumaand willie, with a third man
involved, the man much moreaccomplished than us I sounded
kind of crazy, but it it is true.
It is true.
We are with the transformer.
If you don't know who that is,that is Troy Isley.
What's going on, troy?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
What up, what up, I'm chilling man, chilling in Vegas
, you know, getting ready forMarch 29th.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Vegas.
Wow, he does have a fightcoming up March 29th on the
Meyer Ryan undercard.
Meyer Ryan 2 in Las Vegas right?
Do you have an opponent forthat yet?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, we got a Jamaican guy 16-1, 12 KOs.
You know good test.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Oh, that's a good test, you got the power.
So yeah, Wait a minute.
Who you thought won the firstfight In Meyer?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Ryan, I mean, listen, I'm cool with both of them.
You know, I thought I couldhave won either way.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Honestly, you know what I'm saying, depending on
what the judges were looking for.
It was a good fight.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
You know what I'm saying, so you know this next
fight.
You know I'm very interested tosee the next fight, you know,
and the changes that they made,because the first fight really
could have went either way.
They both, you know, waslanding.
You know great shots, greatcombinations, so you know we go.
I'm very interested to see.
You know, what they both did.
You know, you know, I've seenboth of them.
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You know, yeah, since then,like you know, how they've been
working out.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I saw you were with Meyer today.
She's one of my favorite femaleboxers.
You know.
What I think helped her in thatfirst fight, though, was the
crowd, and that's where we metyou, and I don't know if you
know this, but our claim to fameis we started the USA chant in
that fight.
We had a little bit of homefield advantage there, just to
give it a little edge.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Every fight now, every fight, we go to USA.
We got Keisha on fire.
He was like USA everybody.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
It's like Team USA all over again.
Yeah, you're right, we'restarting to have it all over
again.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
We have to stay in that and that amateur background
does help in boxing.
Obviously, in professionalboxing there is a difference, of
course.
But but when you have thatbackground and all that training
, as you know, I don't got totell you it it does make a
difference and you're seeing itnow.
Like you just said, it feltlike team usa all over again.
But um, going forward right,right now you're ranked number
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eight by ring magazine, which tome is the best ranking system
in in the game.
You know there's all kinds ofother ones.
You're also ranked 11 by WBC.
I know you've been out Six inWBO too Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Six in WBO too, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
So, yeah, you're top 10, basically You're top 10 in
most of the rankings, give ortake whatever.
So and I know you're not very,you don't talk a lot of trash,
you're boys with Keyshawn.
Your nickname obviously isn'tthe Businessman, you're strictly
business, but you have beenmentioning a certain name lately
.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I was the dumbest man .
Speaker 3 (03:11):
See, he took the words right out of my mouth.
You peeped that fight versusShiraz.
I don't know if I say his nameright.
Yeah, yeah, what did you thinkof that fight?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
I mean I thought he looked good against Shiraz, I
thought he did his thing.
You know, people was very highon Shiraz before the fight, you
know.
So I mean I felt like, you know, I thought he won, to be honest
.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Me too yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
But go ahead.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
What do you see in him?
What do you see in him in Adamsthat you think you could
exploit?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I mean, I just feel like I'm a better fighter than
he is.
I've been in the ring with hima couple times.
I feel like I'm the betterfighter.
Honestly, I ain't trying to saywhat I'm going to do.
I can't get rid of my game planbut honestly, I just feel like
I'm the better fighter.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
You definitely got the better style for that fight.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah, you're so also what you think?
No, I got to ask a question,though.
Go ahead, Do your thing.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
What do you think about Eson Lacy just going into
the side, going to the ring andtelling his mans was down in
that fight?
That was I mean that was crazy.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I was going to say I mean yeah, yeah.
I mean we already knew.
You know, we already knew it.
But you know what I'm saying.
You don't got to be.
You know what I'm saying.
You don't really have to justmake it that obvious.
You know what I'm saying.
But it's all good.
That just means you know whenyou're fighting against Shiraz
or any one of them, turkishambassadors, you got to bring
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your game.
You got to knock them out.
That's what I'm thinking.
Knock us out.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
So I was going to ask you too.
Obviously, you're under BOMACand RED right, so you think that
would fly.
You think that would fly withthem in the corner?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Nah, nah Nah not for sure.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Does that affect?
Like you just said, you got tobe careful when you fight them.
And and how does that play on afighter's mind?
Like well, say, you get a bigmoney, fight with Shiraz, right?
Is it worth it?
Is it worth the money?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Honestly, I mean, I feel like it is uh money talks
money talks, money talks.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
It don't really matter that much.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I mean, he can't really control anything.
You know what I'm saying.
I mean, yeah, he might.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Listen, listen.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Adame has won.
Adame has won the fight.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
He won the fight.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I feel like I just feel like a person like me.
I make my wins a little moreclear.
I like to show.
I feel like I show Very clear.
You know what I'm saying, so Ifeel like I would make it
obvious.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
But I mean, you know, you really box people, you box.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Your last fight, you put on a clinic and it kind of
changed the tone.
You know what I mean.
You literally shut him out frombeginning to end.
Ended the year.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
It was like one round .
He got, I think, only one round.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, he came out the last round.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I remember watching that fight too.
I'm like, oh shit, no, no, justget away, get out of there.
But you still boxed, you stuckto the game plan and that really
showed you.
Now, the stupid thing in boxingis and this is against the fans
, and that's just what we are.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
we're just fans but there were boos out there, I
believe, against us because thefight was for sure.
I mean honestly, you know youcan't fall into that.
They're not in the ring, youcan't get tricked out of the
game man.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
And that's what I was going to ask you.
Does that affect you?
And you just got to stayfocused and keep rolling.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I mean I was locked in, I wasn't focused on it.
Locked in is understood.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
You were like you did not change.
You could tell man that thetransformer didn't transform.
You just fucking stuck to itright then?
No for sure.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
We had a game plan.
You know I wasn't.
And earlier in the fight, maybelike the first two or three
rounds, I was trying to.
You know I was trying to takeinitiative.
He was fighting at a—usuallyTyler Howard punches, you know
what I'm saying.
Usually he throws more punches,he's more active.
That's the Tyler Howard.
We were thinking you know whatI'm saying, but he was keeping
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it at a good distance to wherehe couldn't get hit.
You know what I'm saying.
So I felt like I was puttingmyself in harm's way.
I was trying to get his bodyand I'd be reaching and stuff
like that.
So I was just, you know mycoaches, just like you know,
take what he giving you and youknow he weren't really giving me
much.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
So, hey, I was like fucking, we're gonna box the
dude, keep it moving and, andthat's exactly what you did, and
it got to you where you are now.
So, so, um, what was I going tosay?
Oh, with Bomak in your cornerright, does he keep that same
energy that he shows on TV andcamp and stuff too?
Is he always funny like that?
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Yeah, I was curious, Like I never met the guy.
Bomak always talking jokes,yeah, yeah, Because a guy like
you in the ring anyway, you'reso serious and so is all his
fighters yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
All his fighters in the ring.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
But you seem to me like a strictly serious guy
Basically.
Again, you're not Keyshawn, butyou're strictly business in the
ring, whatever.
He's always joking, goofing.
I'm like damn, what the fuckthis guy's always.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I mean, I got a good sense of humor, honestly.
I mean the people see mebecause they don't know me.
I don't know.
You know what I'm saying ToKeyshawn.
Keyshawn might be like man Troyshut up.
You know what I'm sayingBecause I ain't going to stop
talking.
You know, keyshawn, Tiger,tiger.
If I'm around, any of myOlympic guys, yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
So you know it's you.
Good team, perfect teamcombination.
Do you move around withKeyshawn?
Do you spar with him?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Nah, me and Keyshawn haven't sparred since the
Amateurs.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
What about Crawford?
Because I know you're all inthe same umbrella.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I worked with Crawford before before he pulled
my dream off.
I worked with him twice.
I worked with him before I flewoff.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
You had to get him ready for that up and weight.
Yeah, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Definitely, definitely.
I'm going to definitely help mybro out, you know, when he on
his way to beating Canelo.
You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm down withthat one, yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I think so I'm definitely taking a bud, Of
course.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I'm back in the American, no doubt.
I mean I will say that Canelois a tough feat.
So if he could beat that feat,that's.
And you know what.
He did do his thing against myguy, errol Spence.
We're out of Long Island, errolSpence is from out here, so we
Not from out here, he's fromTexas, but he got family out
here.
Oh man, he hurt my Broke, butit's all good, it's all good,
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amen.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, same thing Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Speaking of being from Long Island, I want to tell
you a quick story.
It's kind of a testament to theVirginia fan base that was at
MSG.
Oh God, so Keyshawn got familyout here.
He was really on Long Island.
So, my dumb drunk ass, I'm like, oh yeah, he's kind of from
Long Island.
Whatever cheers Yo, virginia isloyal to the soil man.
They turn around Screaming atme like no, no, I'm rude, like
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you.
Rude for them.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I'm like yo God, yo that's funny, but yo being um.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
You're originally born in Washington, right?
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you'reout of Virginia.
You're basically raised inVirginia, right?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I mean, my family was .
But I mean, put it like this, Iwas raised in Alexandria, I
grew up in Alexandria, I went toDC on weekends or stuff like
that yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know.
And then when I got to highschool I stopped going around
there, for real, you know,because you know it's trouble.
Yeah, it ain't trouble, but forreal it's dangerous.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah, I know, dc is dangerous.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
But I mean, if you come to my fights you're going
to see a bunch of DC people.
You're not really going to seeAlexandria.
I mean you're going to see myfriends and you know the people.
You know that I met inAlexandria and grew up with, but
a lot of the times like family,you're going to see a lot of
you know DC people at my fights.
Okay, that's good.
So that's why I have them sayrepresenting Southeast DC for
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them.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Because they are at the fight, the Southeast people.
Because, yeah, I was a littleconfused, like I'm reading stuff
, you know, and I'm like, ohwait, well, I don't know, to me
it makes no difference.
But I was just like because forsure, for sure.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I mean, I rep both, I rep both, I rep both.
I rep Alexander a little harderthough, but I rep both.
Dmv man.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah, Because like, oh man, like this has got a good
backing in MSG.
I've been to a million fightsat MSG and I felt like I was in
Virginia.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Nobody was showing you love, but I walked up to him
like fight right, I see thisguy everywhere.
I'm like, I seen you there, Iseen you.
I'm like.
And then, puma, let me knowlike who you was.
I'm like, oh man.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I was like like when you meet someone that you see on
TV all the time, right, and yousee them in person, you got to
like triple take, like wait, isthat?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Especially the OGs.
You be like yo, these OGs.
Like you've seen them, likewatching fights when they were
younger, you don't know whatthey look like now.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
No, for real.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
So what home gym are you training at now for your
next fight this month?
I saw you were at DLX.
Shout out to them.
They're awesome.
But what is like your mainstaygym right now in Vegas?
There's a bunch of gyms inVegas.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
So I'll go to Top Rank or UFC Apex, okay, but
mainly mainly Top Rank, top Rankyeah, yeah, without saying too
much, obviously, what's thesparring rotation looking like
right now?
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Just, I always ask fighters this, cause I'm always
curious about who who theysparring.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Uh, I mean, I'm working with, uh, with an
average guy, he's like 19 and noAaron McKenna, okay.
And then, uh, I got some roundsthat would allow the Garcia to
two times Nice.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Nice, I just saw, uh, our guy it to your way.
We're good friends with jahaitucker.
He, uh he was just over theredlx2 and he got some sparring
and I think not too sure.
But yeah, I'm always curiousabout what the sparring is like
and it makes sense.
You said you were sparring withterrence crawford for his, his,
uh fight and iron sharpens ironman, like sparring matters does
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, does bomac, does he have yousparring a lot or no?
I know some guys don't spar alot, some guys do yeah, he got.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
He got me sparring tuesday, thursday, saturdays,
damn that is a lot that's good Imean he'll, he'll.
You know if you, if you see youpeeking early, looking too sharp
, he'll, he'll, he'll.
He'll be like listen, he'll letyou rest, okay, one day or two.
And I, I like I've neverexperienced that like so, like
two fights ago, when he did it,I was like are you sure you know
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what I'm saying?
You tripping.
When I fought Marcos, theMarcos tab, he did that.
He was like you peeking toohard, you looking too sharp,
take a day or two off.
You know what I'm saying.
I'm like what Are you what?
Speaker 3 (13:59):
But yeah, and that was going to lead into my next
question like what is thedifference between training with
a stable and a camp like thatunder bomack and and red,
compared to, uh, your lasttraining because you've been
with them what like four or fiveyears now?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
but with bomack and them.
Yeah, yeah, two, two, two,maybe three, three, two, three.
I think I finished the end ofum.
I finished the end of the endof 2023, september.
I started training in September2023.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
So what is like the biggest difference between
training under them and not likesaying things bad about them?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I mean ain't nothing bad to say about K.
I mean I feel like K did whathe did.
I mean I wouldn't be thefighter I am without K.
He was with you in the Olympicstoo right, he was with you all
the way.
I mean I feel like you know, kdid what he did.
I mean I wouldn't be thefighter I am without K, you know
.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
He was with you in the Olympics too, right?
He was with you all the way,right, yeah, I mean K.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I started with K, I was K's first fighter, yeah, oh,
wow, yeah.
But I just feel like K, okay,okay, I mean I feel like not,
not that, I just feel likethey're more experienced yeah,
okay so, so, so I mean I feellike k still at the time, we're
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still, we're still learning.
You know I'm saying okay, youfeel me.
Yeah, as far as where, wherebomac, they already know what
they're doing you're going to.
You know I'm saying they are,they have, they had crawford.
You know I'm saying so theybuilt crawford fromford from the
ground up so they already kindof like going into I don't know,
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just like being around them.
You know make you being around.
You know the circular fightersmake you feel great and then,
like they know what they'redoing.
You know what I'm saying.
And it's three, four coaches,so like if two of them got to
leave.
You know what I'm saying.
And it's three, four coaches,so like if two of them got to
leave.
You know what I'm saying.
You still got.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
You know enough you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, enough focus.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
There's more of a focus on you.
Yeah, and you still got twocoaches that know what they're
doing, that's experienced enoughthat can train other fighters.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
So it's like a team, it's a team effort when you get
a whole team.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Oh, that's fire.
Okay, so it's really likeundisputed.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I trained with them two camps I worked with Crawford
, the Horn camp and the Burkecamp Okay, so I had already did
two camps with them.
So it kind of was it wasn't ashard of a transition.
Yeah, that's good.
Yeah, so we already, we alreadyknew each other.
I met them like 2018 becausethey were training in Colorado.
And then you know, I was alwaysboys with Shakur, I would
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always be around Shakur.
And then you know, shakursparred me.
And then you know I seen Keithon Sparum and then I'm like,
okay, I'm going to spar you.
And then you know they was like, you know, come back, shit, we
may need you.
So I kept sparring him for theJeff Horn camp.
And then you know, like twoyears later they called me.
You know again.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
for Carol Brooke that means he did his thing against.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Crawford man, that's good.
What did you think it causedyou?
Bad, chill, chill.
Like I said, not sayinganything bad about your last
camp, just obviously that rightnow BOMAC and them, they're like
the top trainers in the game,like arguably one or two if you
were to take a vote.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I guess Probably the best team in the game.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Like you know, you can arguehere and there, but like that's,
they're pretty taken over, it'sjust taken over and that's
great.
Man, and you, obviously youmade the right choice because
you've been on the up and upagain, you're ranking, you're
cracking the top 10 in almostevery ranking, almost every
ranking, but to me, the only onethat matters, because you get
the boxing nerds really the onesthat are in the ring and you
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crack the top 10 in that ringand you cracked the top 10 in
that a belt this year.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
we're thinking Well, I mean, I'm trying to get a
title shot by the end of thisyear and the beginning of next
year.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
That was my goal it's hard now, though, right like I
think, when you're number 8,right like you're in the top 10,
yeah, that people are going toavoid you.
You're risky, you're a riskybusiness right now which one?
Speaker 1 (18:04):
you in six then?
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I'm six in the WBO and 11 in the WBC and A&R
Magazine.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Who got the belt at the WBO, janabek?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Oh, yeah, janabek, you were calling him out too,
man.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah.
So by the end of this year,beginning of next year.
You know one or two more fights, but go ahead.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
He's tough.
He's tough as a fan's opinion.
He's a tough guy, but he's alittle inflated, like his resume
isn't really.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah, I know, I feel like you know he got a decent
win over Bentley, but I feellike that's the only person he
fought.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
But yeah.
But you know I always look atthe odds.
If the odds are highly favoringsomeone else, I'm like, okay,
this is a little inflated guyover here, but whatever, he
hasn't been too active, hehasn't been too active and
you're doing the right thing.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
He's avoided by other guys in the division To other
guys he's a risk, not to you,though, right.
Nah, I said I want the belt, sohell, no Chasing the belt.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
And without burning any bridges, because I'm not
trying to do that.
What's your take on this whole?
The Saudis trying to get rid ofall the belts and this, that
the other thing.
Are you a belt guy?
I know some fighters are like,ah, belts don't matter.
Do they matter to you?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I want to win one, two, three, four.
I to be forward, I want to winthem.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
So is the goal still to be undisputed, though.
Like in a fighter's mind, Ilove that.
Personally, I love like fourbelts.
I know the other.
There's always this like thewhatever, the Latino belt, or
whatever the.
Wbc did.
There's always, they're alwaysthrowing weird things in there.
But the four main belts Ipersonally loved.
Like, alright, you're great,but now you want to unify and
fight other champions.
So do you think that's good forboxing or bad?
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I just want to get a fighter'stake on that the one belt was
kind of like UFC.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
You know what I'm saying One champion and one yeah
.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
So I mean, honestly, I like the four how it is.
You know what I'm saying andhonestly I would want to you
know undisputed.
That's what makes you legendary, you know in our sport.
So why would you?
You know after 50, 60 years ofit, why would you try to take it
out?
It don't make no sense.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
That's great to hear.
I love to hear that Because,like for me, when I'm always
arguing with my non-boxingfriends and they're like, ooh,
too many belts, I'm like the manwho beat the man and a lot of
fees, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Now, with all this, like with all this, like, like,
like WBC, like like 10, I don'tknow.
I see like with them, themlittle added little belts, yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Like they make it look good.
And now you got a guy you know,I see the rainbow belt and
everything.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
I'm like what is that ?
The Prime belt?
In England they got the rainbowbelt.
It's just too much.
It's confusing.
It's confusing for everybody.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
They got the Fighter Fury, whatever belt the video
game belt.
What belt is that?
Speaker 3 (20:51):
I think, the WBC, though, started to lose people.
They had the Aztec Warrior beltor whatever.
Then, when Tyson Fury fought,he got another weird belt.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
It's all promotion that's all Mexicans have.
Where was the black belt?
It was a belt for us.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
It was the black history belt.
Karate belts man.
But yeah, it's just confusingand I'm glad you said that
because it's good.
Belts do matter to me, the fourmain belts do matter, and I get
new fans coming in.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
But he's an Olympian, he's going to think like that.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah, that's true, it's true, I think that's all.
What do you walk around atweight rise, Because I'm not
going to lie and I'm notfanboying you or whatever, but
when you go in the ring man, youlook yoked.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Like you're, like superhero Jack, You're built
like a running back.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Did you play football growing up?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I played football before I started boxing.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Like Fernet.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
What position Running ?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
back.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
I played.
I played left side linebacker.
I played rec league though.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Okay, okay, rec league this is before I started
boxing.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
And then once I started boxing.
So I was a sore loser in teamsports.
You know what I'm saying yo,just like my and I, I like to
win.
You know I'm saying I was, Iwas an asshole.
So you know I was that teammatethat, like yo, if I had a
winkling I'm like get him outthe game.
You know I'm saying I was oneof them.
So you know boxing, you know,at first it felt natural because
(22:17):
I was getting into fights andstuff outside of school.
Yeah, so boxing it wouldn'tfeel natural.
And then, uh, you know I couldcontrol the whole destiny.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
You know what I mean.
It's on you.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah, so you know, I liked it, I liked it like that.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
I told my daughter like me and my baby mother told
my daughter.
I said she in the wrong sportbecause she get mad.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
That's for sure.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
That cheerleading the whole team be mad about it.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
No, for sure, you got that one person man, that's
every team you got to be, thewhole team got to be.
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3 (22:48):
And that's probably why you fall so good into
BOMAC's camps and BOMAC's team,Because I feel like and I don't
know anybody personally butthey're all like, yeah, get out.
No, you're the weakest link,Get out, Get out.
And that's good to hear, goodto see and it is working.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
But not being around them, though there's a bunch of
dogs on the team so you can'thandle weak link energy.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Let's see, that's great.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
But being around them just made me want to be great,
I feel great and I really dofeel there was like a difference
.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Nothing against your old trainers, for sure, for uh,
no, for sure, for sure.
There was like uh, you, youelevated just a little more,
that's all, and that's all youneeded.
And we're seeing it now.
And cracking the top 10 is noteasy for an.
Any fighter will tell you thatthat's like the goal originally.
Let me crack the top 20, let mecrack the top 10.
And here you are, and now we'rechasing belts.
How many fights this year areyou trying to fight?
(23:42):
How many times?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Well, I'm trying to get three at least.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Yeah, that's rare.
Now you get three fights a yearin boxing.
You're an active fighter,that's what they want.
So I mean I'm starting late.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yeah, Already in March.
So I mean, when I fight inMarch, you know, I June.
Okay, stay, busy, stay busy andthen you know, try to get, you
know, finish one definitely atthe end of the year.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
You gonna fight in New York or not?
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I love fighting in New York, dude, they you know
I'm waiting on them to get theto send me back.
I love New York.
That's.
That's the best love you know,and if you perform good they
gonna love you.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
You know what I'm saying.
I love New York.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
That's all you just made fans for life.
Now, we never leave them.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
We definitely, definitely.
I'm screaming, if we could, ifyou hate New.
York definitely.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
For sure, for sure, definitely, I love to fight in
New York.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
I'm hoping now with all the business side of things.
Obviously you're with Top Rankand I heard grumblings it wasn't
made official or whatever.
They're going to go with thezone after.
I hope they still bring fightsto New York.
I mean, it's hard not to, it'sNew York and I'm hoping for that
.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
No, for sure we're going to bring some fights to
New York.
We have to.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
That's what I said.
Like when I get old and retire,if I want to keep doing this
boxing journey, New York orVegas, Two options, the boxing
capitals.
So right now you're in Vegas.
You said you're training and isBOMAC, and all them out there
with you or are you hoppingaround a little bit until it
gets?
No, BOMAC and them they outhere.
Okay, they're out here.
That's cool, that's good tohear.
I think that's all I got, yougot anything else.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Willie, I don't know what happened off screen, but
what's your diet like?
What's your diet like?
Drawing it up?
No shit, nah, you funny, youfunny, you funny.
So I got.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
I got nutritionist, you know, either, either my boy
Alan, or or Perfecting Athletes.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Oh you're.
You're with Perfecting Athletes.
That's important, Cause I feellike all their fighters make
weight Like they never.
You never miss weight with them.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
So so I work with them.
They, they make me meals.
They bring my, uh, my mealsevery Sunday, you know for the
week.
They drop all my meals offevery Sunday for the whole week
and then you know they take careof me, you know they.
(26:12):
They get my rehydration rightand that's awesome.
But I mean, as far as food uh,it used to be, it used to be,
you know, um, like a lot of likeI don't know.
I just eat whatever sort of say, I'm gonna say whatever, but
like now, I try to.
I try to eat a lot of like likefish, vegetables, stuff that
don't stuff.
So after the fight, I used toeat pasta, I used to eat like
bread and stuff like that.
You know what I'm saying.
And then I would feel likebloated.
You know what I'm saying.
(26:33):
You don't want to fight offthat, you want to go to sleep.
So you know, now I try to keepit.
Stuff that's going to— stuffthat you're going to eat it,
you're going to shit out.
So I keep vegetables, fish.
That's really about it.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
It do get annoying, but so what's your favorite food
?
My favorite food is pasta,pasta, pasta.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Any type of pasta, and I would go get a pasta after
every weigh-in.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
That's why you love New York.
That's why you love New YorkEvery weigh-in for sure.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
After every weigh-in, you get a pasta.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
I was getting a pasta .
Now if I feel bloated Iwouldn't even care, I'd still
get another one later.
When I got a new nutritionist,he told me you know, all that
rice and dairy and all thatstuff is bad.
You know what I'm saying.
So it was hard.
This was the Marcos fight.
You know, I was trying it outand it was hard, but I wanted to
(27:30):
eat pasta.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
I wanted to eat all that so bad.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
I'm just eating the fish and vegetables and I'm like
I wanted to eat the pasta.
So bad, but I'm like, no, I'mgoing to try it out.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
I'm going to try it out.
I'm going to try it out, andthen you know, you seen the
fight against Marcos and.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I'm like, yeah, I'm going to stick with this.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
I'm going to stick with it.
I'm going to stick with it.
The fans wouldn't know none ofthis.
They don't know how hard thediscipline you be going through.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Your favorite food you can't even eat most of the
time you get the call and you'reready.
Give me a few weeks.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
You're not no Padley.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
I need eight weeks, eight weeks.
You need eight weeks forcollege.
Josh Padley, no.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I want to know how Josh Padley was walking around
at his fight weight.
They been called them.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
One fight I did.
I did take that one that calledone fight.
I think I had like six weeks.
Yeah, I thought I was going tofight Hob on the Sikora, on
Sikora's last fight with TopRight in July.
Yeah, and they had called meand was like, nah, we want you
to fight him in June 21st and Iyou know what I'm saying.
So like six weeks and stufflike that.
Then I went to Vegas for likethe last, like three and a half,
(28:45):
so, but I did, I did that onetime.
But usually usually I'm, I'm,I'm, I'm the eight weeks, I like
eight weeks, I like eight weeksto get ready for a Pacific
person.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Yeah, and that's smart Cause people don't think
forget about like being weightready and stuff.
Right.
Like you, the no, I go onvacation and take a plane ride.
I need like a day to settle in,like you know what I mean.
Like nobody likes flying aplane.
So like you were saying, padley, yeah, and Bacoli, like what
Bacoli did, like that dude gotoff the plane and fought.
Like that you're stiff as hell.
Like sitting on a plane.
(29:14):
Nah for sure.
But I mean, like he ain't Bro,he took like a selfie in Africa.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
And then you see the video of him like doing the I
don't know what the hell he was,the humping and shit.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
He had wait.
He had to be on a PJ, he had tobe on a private jet.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
I don't think so, dude.
He was taking like selfies.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
He's too damn big to be riding Nah they got him.
Saudi got him right for sure,saudi got him right for sure.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Had to.
Had to If they answered thecall, for sure Saudi got him
with the private for sure Aprivate with a bed in it.
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
It's a big dude bro he had to lay down because you
know he's sitting there.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
He's not sitting in the Western name.
He, what's the?
Speaker 1 (30:00):
name.
He's definitely not sitting ona regular player.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
They can be like who is that?
Imagine he got the window seatnext to his big ass.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
He really knocked my boy out, though.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Well, joyce and the heavyweights now, not Joyce, I'm
sorry, parker, parker, yeah,parker, he's been in shape and
when he's in shape he doesdamage.
I know a few fighters theycalled were like nah, nah, nah
nah, because they knew I was alittle scared for Parker at
first.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
I ain't going to lie.
Tell us what he came in BecauseI'm like that's a risky fight.
I'm like you were just about tofight for the belt.
And now you're about to fight akiller and you're not going to
fight for the belt.
You know what I'm saying.
You got to fight a betterfighter than what you were gonna
.
You know what I'm sayingalready face.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
He looked in shape though, he looked ready, he did
his thing, nah for sure, forsure, for sure, For sure.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Bacoli's a big guy though, dude yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
And he's ducked by many too.
Like you, he's like you.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
He's ducked by many.
Yeah, high risk.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
High risk.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Who self active.
And then I want to know who'syour favorite?
Uh, in the past as well, justcurious active.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
You're a fighter right now to watch.
I like watching.
Keyshawn Keyshawn.
Yeah, I like watching Keyshawn.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I like watching Keyshawn.
He's very exciting.
And, um, fairfighter, I meanright now, I mean either
Crawford or I like Canelo too.
That's good man.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
I'm excited for that too.
Crawford Canelo, I am excited.
There's a lot of like.
There's going to be a lot ofdebates, a lot of people going
back and forth, all the, all thelittle podcasts, all the
podcast losers like ourselvesare going to be debating.
Go wild.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
So I like old school fighters though.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
And you know who's your favorite old school fighter
.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
No, crawford, canelo.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
James for the.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Canelo James.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Toney, middleweight, james Toney.
Well, regardless, James Toney,marvin, hagler, holyfield, dre
and Floyd.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Okay, holyfield, you would say when you was like
growing up, trying to be likewhen you first started boxing,
who you mimicked after who youwatched.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Who was I mimicking?
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Who they say they reminded you of, or something
like that.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
They say Holyfield, holyfield.
That's probably because you'reso ripped, bro.
Yeah, and you know what yourstyle is.
Now that you mention it, yourstyle is kind of.
I think you're a little cleanerthan him, though your style is
a little cleaner.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
I feel like I keep, I feel like I think better yeah
you're a little cleaner.
But that's the James Toneythough.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Yeah, true, so you got the mix of all.
It's good to see that growingup, when you emulate someone
like that or fighters like that.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
It sticks with you even now at this point in your
career.
But also so like growing up, Iwasn't necessarily watching
Holyfield, okay.
So, kaya, tell me to watchAndre Ward Lomachenko.
That's where I got them anglesfrom.
I watched Lomachenko, andreWard Lomachenko, and then my dad
(33:04):
was a boxer fan.
He went to all the 80s fights,so he the one that put me on the
James Toney and then he put meon the Sugar Ray Leonard, the
whole Marvin Hagler, all thatwhole era.
He put me on all that era Istarted watching YouTube videos
on that, yeah on that.
And then, you know, I did mylittle history.
You know, ali, the heavyweights.
You know, back in the day, youknow my favorite was Foreman out
(33:24):
of them.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, foreman Foreman's one ofmy favorite fighters too.
And then the funny thing wasthe guy that played him was at
my fight in New Jersey.
He's a big fan of me too.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Really.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
That was a good.
I watched that too.
It came out on Netflix BecauseI didn't know much.
You know, yeah, we're a littleremoved from that era, like it's
just before us.
So it was good to see that.
I learned a lot about him fromthat and that was.
But that's awesome that youdownload all that data and you
know you spoke about Loma andthe angles and I saw that in
your last fight.
Specifically, you were showingangles like crazy.
I was like, oh shit, this hasgot a little bag in him.
(34:01):
He's got a little bag in him.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Appreciate that, appreciate that.
A lot of people be like, Ifight like a smaller fighter.
I had a growth spurt in ninthgrade.
I started off the school year132.
I ended the school year at 154.
(34:23):
But that's kind of why I usedto fight smaller and box and
stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
What do you walk around at?
Usually?
Is it hard to make weight foryou, nah?
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Nah, I mean it's not's not.
I walk around, I mean in camp,I'll be in like the 70 to like
75 range and I'll be sparringlike like guys is like 190.
So you know what I'm saying.
I'm not about you how latesparring these guys.
So you know I'm saying I come,I'll start cutting my way, I'll
keep it to like 15 to 12 to 15range and then I'll start
cutting it like the last littlethree weeks out.
(34:55):
But I mean, after a fight, youknow you rehydrate.
You're probably, I'll probablybe about 180 in the ring, you
know.
So you know, after the fight,you know I take my week off and
you know I like to travel andwhen I travel I like to go to
the best restaurants, I like toeat.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
So even saying pasta.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
No, no, I mean it ain't pasta.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
every time I make sure I get a pasta though.
I make sure.
I get a pasta you know, like,like, like.
Right after the fight.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Now I make sure I get a pasta but but for some reason
, whenever I'm making weight bro, it's wings.
Sometimes it's been pizza,sometimes it's just I don't know
.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
It's the mind man.
It's crazy.
I do like a crash diet RightOnce a year no carbs, no sugar.
I just do it for like 20-30days Because I'm a fluffy Mother
effer so when I do that IReese's Peanut Butter
commercials Like what is goingon.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Nah for sure it's the mind.
Nah for sure they put all thefood commercials on yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
I'm like why is this?
I've never seen this Deep dishpizza.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
I'm like bro.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Oh my God, and the cinnamon and the weed.
I'm like bro, come on, bro, yo.
But what I was going to say youknow, rob Markman.
You know how people got otherhobbies.
What's your other hobby thatyou like to do, rob Markman?
Off season?
Rob Markman, I like to shop.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
I'm a sneaker head.
I got over a hundred pairs oftennis shoes.
I got the shoe containers likehow Caleb plant.
But I've been collecting sincehigh school.
I wore the same size ever sinceI hit that growth spurt I went
from nine and a half to 11 and ahalf, 12.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Do you go to the shows and stuff like the sneaker
conventions?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Nah, I don't go there yet.
I'm going to save it for later.
Not right now.
Right now I go to the resalestores.
I'll buy the full five and ahalf shoes there, but you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
What's the rare shoe you got?
Speaker 2 (36:56):
What's the rare shoe you got?
I got the galaxy phones.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Oh, okay, oh no, oh wow, just a crazy, not the
galaxy, I got.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
The big bangs I got.
The black bottom ones, I gotthe black bottom.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
The crazy thing that you said that right last fight.
Did you have foam boxing shoeson those foam posits?
Speaker 2 (37:16):
No, I had on.
I think I had the black olivenines at the fight.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Now, which one did you have the silver joints on?
Oh, we talking about the shoesI fought in, yeah, when you were
fighting, yeah those were likefoam.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Those were like foam posits boxing shoes.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah, that's what I was saying.
I was going to ask you aboutthose shoes too.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Those are actual shoes, though I think it's
called, like something,athletics or something like that
.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
I thought they was like Nike foam pods.
I thought they was really Nikefoam pods.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
As I was like planning the whole fit together.
They were Nike foam pods.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
That's what they were meant to be.
You know what I'm saying?
I like the shop.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
You know I like the.
You know I feel you.
I like to shop.
You know I like to.
You know I'm typically like Ilike to try new things.
You know what I'm saying.
But I don't like to be scared,you know what I'm saying.
So it depends on who's driving.
But I have been putting in likesome.
Like I went water, water,riverboat rafting when I was a
(38:15):
teenager.
I did not like that.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
You got no control.
Yeah, I did not, I was like bro.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
yeah, I did not like that experience, but I like to
travel on my free time.
You know what I'm saying Go torestaurants, go eat.
I like to hang out with friendson my free time and shit.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Okay okay, it's so funny because the more fighters
and stuff we interview, Iidolize all of you, I'm jealous
of all of you, everything youguys are all my heroes, whatever
.
And then I told you I'm like,oh, you're like a regular dude
like me, man.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Rob Markman.
I'm chilling bro, I be chilling.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Rob Markman, do you play basketball at all?
Because I know Crawford.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Yeah, I hoop.
I hoop, I hoop.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
One-on-one?
No, I haven't.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
I feel not getting the hooping because, you know, I
got injured.
I got in 2020, when I was inUSC, I had a shoulder.
I had to get my shoulders fixedfor the whole 2020.
I took the whole 2020 off andthen I had to get my hand fixed.
So, because of injuries youknow what I'm saying I haven't
been like I hoop, but I don't belike.
I don't be like, oh, I'm goingto hoop every day.
It's like sometimes I'll belike I ain't hooping.
(39:19):
You know what I'm saying.
Majority of times it be likeI'm not hooping, I can't hoop.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
I hoop, I hoop you go ahead.
Who's the best hooper, bro?
Yo, so let me hear you have tobe dunking you like 5'10" Nah.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I ain't dunking, I'm slashing.
I'm slashing quarter threes andmid-rains, man Okay.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
I thought you would be dunking.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
You ever play.
You all play together inBOMAC's camp when you're in
those camps and stuff.
I know when you have somedowntime.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
We actually me, cora Keyshawn, all of us played like
a few a month or two ago youwere waxing.
We ain't really, we ain'treally.
Nah, we ain't really beenhooping like that.
Okay, okay, used to hoop hellaon Team USA, though all the time
.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
I bet as you get older too, you get more serious.
Basketball hurts, manBasketball hurts.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Nah, it is, it is.
It is.
Basketball hurts man, thoselike basketball.
It's like I ain't about to besore tomorrow.
You know what I'm saying it'scrazy like I.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
I'll spar whatever you know we box.
Whatever I'll spar, get my asskicked whatever one full court
game at la fitness.
My hips are hurting myeverything.
It's weird.
It's weird.
But hey, man, I think that'sall we got.
You got anything else We'll letyou go.
Thank you for giving us thetime as it is you gave us more
than we even bargained for Forsure.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Definitely good vibes .
Speaker 3 (40:44):
For sure that's us.
That's us Again.
I want to apologize.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
You got any gems for the people that's probably
watching?
Speaker 2 (40:55):
just started.
You know I want to tell you toalways.
You know, stay humble.
You know, never be big headed.
You know what I'm saying.
You can always learn in thissport.
There's always a guy out there.
You know what I'm saying.
There's always a time whereyou're going to think you know
it all.
And one sparring session.
You know a guy.
You know, oh okay, I got towork on my shit.
(41:17):
You know what I'm saying.
So you know, don't never gettoo big headed.
And you know, stay in the gym.
You know boxing.
You know it's everyday sports,it's an all year round sport.
So you know what I'm saying.
Ain't no off season in thisgame.
So you know, stay in the gym.
And you know, never getbig-headed, never feel like.
You know you learned everything.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Yeah, okay, I got one more question and then I swear
we'll let you go.
I could talk this all day.
So who is a fighter that maybethe public hasn't heard of yet?
And I ask everyone this, but weshould keep an eye out for like
a name, Someone coming up,Maybe a sparring partner,
Someone you got that we should.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
A nephew, a little cousin we should put it on the
radar.
Isley Jr, some shit.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Marcus Luther man.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Marcus Luther, marcus Luther.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Marcus Luther.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Write the name down what?
Speaker 2 (42:07):
weight.
Is he Sharp Sharp?
He's still amateur, he ain'tturned pro, yet oh, not pro.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Look out for him, marcus Luther.
All right, marcus Luther.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
But hold on, If you're looking for a
professional, that's my youngamateur, but professional I mean
Keon Davis.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Lester Martinez man, he got a big fight coming up.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Watch out, if you fight an undefeated guy, look
out for him, lester Martinez,and we actually met the Davis,
all the Davis brothers.
Okay, yeah, I'm going to markthat down and I'll keep my eyes
peeled.
Again, thank you for the time.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Appreciate you, man.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
If you hear anybody talking shit about that weird
drunk guy with the spa in at MSG, let them know we're good vibes
weird drunk guy with the spa inan msg.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Let him know we're good vibes, we're just fans.
Take care, all right thank you.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
So, oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
No, no, I got one more.
How did you get the nicknamethe transformer?
And then we'll close okay sorry, I meant to start with that so
good, that's all good.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Um, I used to uh, so yeah, like like how you say, now
I don't talk a lot of trash andall that.
So, um, then, then this beforethis, before all the muscles and
all that came, uh, I was skinny.
I was skinny and uh, it wasoverlooked.
You know, I'm saying, and funnything is, like like a month or
(43:30):
two ago, uh, this is one of theguys that that was around when I
first started.
His name name's James, hecalled me.
He called me like not too longago he was like I remember you
was in the gym, you used to cryand stuff, like that man.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
It was a rough start.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
I started when I was 11.
I didn't fight until I was.
I mean, I started when I was 8.
I didn't fight until I was like10, 11 years old.
It was rough, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So what's the name?
K?
This is around the time I hadprobably had like 10, 11 fights,
(44:04):
but I was starting out withthis one.
I was like, coming out, I waslooking sharp.
You know what I'm saying?
Hang with everything.
I was looking sharp.
So K had called James and waslike man James, you need to see
him.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
You need to see him.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
He'satti's going to get mad.
You need to see him.
He's sharp.
James telling me I ain't nocase of all this.
James, like man, you need tocome see him.
Man, troy, man, he different,you need to come see him.
But he gave me that namebecause how James was.
Nobody thought I was going todo anything.
I was always quiet.
(44:36):
I'll be the best fight, I'll bethe most exciting fight the
whole night.
Everybody oozing us, everybodycoming up to me after the fight,
kane was like we're going tocall you the.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Transformer.
Nah, that's perfect.
You came from a differentdemeanor.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
That's awesome and that is, I'm a big nickname guy.
That is one of the coolernicknames in the game.
That's a fact.
So again, troy, thank you somuch for the time.
Appreciate you, man.
You got camp coming.
Well, you're in camp now.
Unfortunately, we won't be ableto make it to Vegas.
We would love to.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
I know you'd be tuned in for more support, so it's
all good.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
Oh, definitely I got a damn wedding.
My wife won't let me leave, soI got to go to this damn wedding
, or else we would be there.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
But it's like.
It's like six, seven weddings,no friends.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
No friends, weddings suck.
No friends, I'm like, why evenget married?
No, that's a different podcast.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
That's a different time.
I mean, that's experience.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
I want You're good man.
I'm not saying get married, butI'm talking about going there.
You know what I'm?
Speaker 2 (45:36):
saying Going to a wedding.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
You know what I'm saying he said, he said.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
But I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
I understand what you're saying, nah, it's good,
it's good.
I love my wife.
She's going to listen to thisand I'm going to have to box.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Nah, he said nah nah.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
Troy again.
Thank you so much, man, weappreciate it.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Big fans yeah, definitely no problem bro, y'all
definitely you know good vibesman.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
I definitely pull back up whenever Of course, and
I promise man on everything Ilove, next time you're in New
York we will be there ringside,no matter what, All right.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
For sure man Appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
Take care man, All right.
it's time for the main event it's the sparring
podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Oh, it's a knockout, yo.
What is going on, it is pumaand willie, with a third man
involved, the man much moreaccomplished than us I sounded
kind of crazy, but it it is true.
It is true.
We are with the transformer.
If you don't know who that is,that is Troy Isley.
What's going on, troy?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
What up, what up, I'm chilling man, chilling in Vegas
, you know, getting ready forMarch 29th.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Vegas.
Wow, he does have a fightcoming up March 29th on the
Meyer Ryan undercard.
Meyer Ryan 2 in Las Vegas right?
Do you have an opponent forthat yet?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, we got a Jamaican guy 16-1, 12 KOs.
You know good test.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Oh, that's a good test, you got the power.
So yeah, Wait a minute.
Who you thought won the firstfight In Meyer?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Ryan, I mean, listen, I'm cool with both of them.
You know, I thought I couldhave won either way.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Honestly, you know what I'm saying, depending on
what the judges were looking for.
It was a good fight.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
You know what I'm saying, so you know this next
fight.
You know I'm very interested tosee the next fight, you know,
and the changes that they made,because the first fight really
could have went either way.
They both, you know, waslanding.
You know great shots, greatcombinations, so you know we go.
I'm very interested to see.
You know, what they both did.
You know, you know, I've seenboth of them.
(01:40):
You know, yeah, since then,like you know, how they've been
working out.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I saw you were with Meyer today.
She's one of my favorite femaleboxers.
You know.
What I think helped her in thatfirst fight, though, was the
crowd, and that's where we metyou, and I don't know if you
know this, but our claim to fameis we started the USA chant in
that fight.
We had a little bit of homefield advantage there, just to
give it a little edge.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Every fight now, every fight, we go to USA.
We got Keisha on fire.
He was like USA everybody.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
It's like Team USA all over again.
Yeah, you're right, we'restarting to have it all over
again.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
We have to stay in that and that amateur background
does help in boxing.
Obviously, in professionalboxing there is a difference, of
course.
But but when you have thatbackground and all that training
, as you know, I don't got totell you it it does make a
difference and you're seeing itnow.
Like you just said, it feltlike team usa all over again.
But um, going forward right,right now you're ranked number
(02:37):
eight by ring magazine, which tome is the best ranking system
in in the game.
You know there's all kinds ofother ones.
You're also ranked 11 by WBC.
I know you've been out Six inWBO too Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Six in WBO too, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
So, yeah, you're top 10, basically You're top 10 in
most of the rankings, give ortake whatever.
So and I know you're not very,you don't talk a lot of trash,
you're boys with Keyshawn.
Your nickname obviously isn'tthe Businessman, you're strictly
business, but you have beenmentioning a certain name lately
.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I was the dumbest man .
Speaker 3 (03:11):
See, he took the words right out of my mouth.
You peeped that fight versusShiraz.
I don't know if I say his nameright.
Yeah, yeah, what did you thinkof that fight?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
I mean I thought he looked good against Shiraz, I
thought he did his thing.
You know, people was very highon Shiraz before the fight, you
know.
So I mean I felt like, you know, I thought he won, to be honest
.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Me too yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
But go ahead.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
What do you see in him?
What do you see in him in Adamsthat you think you could
exploit?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I mean, I just feel like I'm a better fighter than
he is.
I've been in the ring with hima couple times.
I feel like I'm the betterfighter.
Honestly, I ain't trying to saywhat I'm going to do.
I can't get rid of my game planbut honestly, I just feel like
I'm the better fighter.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
You definitely got the better style for that fight.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah, you're so also what you think?
No, I got to ask a question,though.
Go ahead, Do your thing.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
What do you think about Eson Lacy just going into
the side, going to the ring andtelling his mans was down in
that fight?
That was I mean that was crazy.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I was going to say I mean yeah, yeah.
I mean we already knew.
You know, we already knew it.
But you know what I'm saying.
You don't got to be.
You know what I'm saying.
You don't really have to justmake it that obvious.
You know what I'm saying.
But it's all good.
That just means you know whenyou're fighting against Shiraz
or any one of them, turkishambassadors, you got to bring
(04:43):
your game.
You got to knock them out.
That's what I'm thinking.
Knock us out.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
So I was going to ask you too.
Obviously, you're under BOMACand RED right, so you think that
would fly.
You think that would fly withthem in the corner?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Nah, nah Nah not for sure.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Does that affect?
Like you just said, you got tobe careful when you fight them.
And and how does that play on afighter's mind?
Like well, say, you get a bigmoney, fight with Shiraz, right?
Is it worth it?
Is it worth the money?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Honestly, I mean, I feel like it is uh money talks
money talks, money talks.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
It don't really matter that much.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I mean, he can't really control anything.
You know what I'm saying.
I mean, yeah, he might.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Listen, listen.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Adame has won.
Adame has won the fight.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
He won the fight.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I feel like I just feel like a person like me.
I make my wins a little moreclear.
I like to show.
I feel like I show Very clear.
You know what I'm saying, so Ifeel like I would make it
obvious.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
But I mean, you know, you really box people, you box.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Your last fight, you put on a clinic and it kind of
changed the tone.
You know what I mean.
You literally shut him out frombeginning to end.
Ended the year.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
It was like one round .
He got, I think, only one round.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, he came out the last round.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I remember watching that fight too.
I'm like, oh shit, no, no, justget away, get out of there.
But you still boxed, you stuckto the game plan and that really
showed you.
Now, the stupid thing in boxingis and this is against the fans
, and that's just what we are.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
we're just fans but there were boos out there, I
believe, against us because thefight was for sure.
I mean honestly, you know youcan't fall into that.
They're not in the ring, youcan't get tricked out of the
game man.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
And that's what I was going to ask you.
Does that affect you?
And you just got to stayfocused and keep rolling.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I mean I was locked in, I wasn't focused on it.
Locked in is understood.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
You were like you did not change.
You could tell man that thetransformer didn't transform.
You just fucking stuck to itright then?
No for sure.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
We had a game plan.
You know I wasn't.
And earlier in the fight, maybelike the first two or three
rounds, I was trying to.
You know I was trying to takeinitiative.
He was fighting at a—usuallyTyler Howard punches, you know
what I'm saying.
Usually he throws more punches,he's more active.
That's the Tyler Howard.
We were thinking you know whatI'm saying, but he was keeping
(07:17):
it at a good distance to wherehe couldn't get hit.
You know what I'm saying.
So I felt like I was puttingmyself in harm's way.
I was trying to get his bodyand I'd be reaching and stuff
like that.
So I was just, you know mycoaches, just like you know,
take what he giving you and youknow he weren't really giving me
much.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
So, hey, I was like fucking, we're gonna box the
dude, keep it moving and, andthat's exactly what you did, and
it got to you where you are now.
So, so, um, what was I going tosay?
Oh, with Bomak in your cornerright, does he keep that same
energy that he shows on TV andcamp and stuff too?
Is he always funny like that?
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Yeah, I was curious, Like I never met the guy.
Bomak always talking jokes,yeah, yeah, Because a guy like
you in the ring anyway, you'reso serious and so is all his
fighters yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
All his fighters in the ring.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
But you seem to me like a strictly serious guy
Basically.
Again, you're not Keyshawn, butyou're strictly business in the
ring, whatever.
He's always joking, goofing.
I'm like damn, what the fuckthis guy's always.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I mean, I got a good sense of humor, honestly.
I mean the people see mebecause they don't know me.
I don't know.
You know what I'm saying ToKeyshawn.
Keyshawn might be like man Troyshut up.
You know what I'm sayingBecause I ain't going to stop
talking.
You know, keyshawn, Tiger,tiger.
If I'm around, any of myOlympic guys, yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
So you know it's you.
Good team, perfect teamcombination.
Do you move around withKeyshawn?
Do you spar with him?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Nah, me and Keyshawn haven't sparred since the
Amateurs.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
What about Crawford?
Because I know you're all inthe same umbrella.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I worked with Crawford before before he pulled
my dream off.
I worked with him twice.
I worked with him before I flewoff.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
You had to get him ready for that up and weight.
Yeah, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Definitely, definitely.
I'm going to definitely help mybro out, you know, when he on
his way to beating Canelo.
You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm down withthat one, yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I think so I'm definitely taking a bud, Of
course.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I'm back in the American, no doubt.
I mean I will say that Canelois a tough feat.
So if he could beat that feat,that's.
And you know what.
He did do his thing against myguy, errol Spence.
We're out of Long Island, errolSpence is from out here, so we
Not from out here, he's fromTexas, but he got family out
here.
Oh man, he hurt my Broke, butit's all good, it's all good,
(09:42):
amen.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, same thing Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Speaking of being from Long Island, I want to tell
you a quick story.
It's kind of a testament to theVirginia fan base that was at
MSG.
Oh God, so Keyshawn got familyout here.
He was really on Long Island.
So, my dumb drunk ass, I'm like, oh yeah, he's kind of from
Long Island.
Whatever cheers Yo, virginia isloyal to the soil man.
They turn around Screaming atme like no, no, I'm rude, like
(10:09):
you.
Rude for them.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I'm like yo God, yo that's funny, but yo being um.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
You're originally born in Washington, right?
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you'reout of Virginia.
You're basically raised inVirginia, right?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I mean, my family was .
But I mean, put it like this, Iwas raised in Alexandria, I
grew up in Alexandria, I went toDC on weekends or stuff like
that yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know.
And then when I got to highschool I stopped going around
there, for real, you know,because you know it's trouble.
Yeah, it ain't trouble, but forreal it's dangerous.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah, I know, dc is dangerous.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
But I mean, if you come to my fights you're going
to see a bunch of DC people.
You're not really going to seeAlexandria.
I mean you're going to see myfriends and you know the people.
You know that I met inAlexandria and grew up with, but
a lot of the times like family,you're going to see a lot of
you know DC people at my fights.
Okay, that's good.
So that's why I have them sayrepresenting Southeast DC for
(11:16):
them.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Because they are at the fight, the Southeast people.
Because, yeah, I was a littleconfused, like I'm reading stuff
, you know, and I'm like, ohwait, well, I don't know, to me
it makes no difference.
But I was just like because forsure, for sure.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I mean, I rep both, I rep both, I rep both.
I rep Alexander a little harderthough, but I rep both.
Dmv man.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah, Because like, oh man, like this has got a good
backing in MSG.
I've been to a million fightsat MSG and I felt like I was in
Virginia.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Nobody was showing you love, but I walked up to him
like fight right, I see thisguy everywhere.
I'm like, I seen you there, Iseen you.
I'm like.
And then, puma, let me knowlike who you was.
I'm like, oh man.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I was like like when you meet someone that you see on
TV all the time, right, and yousee them in person, you got to
like triple take, like wait, isthat?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Especially the OGs.
You be like yo, these OGs.
Like you've seen them, likewatching fights when they were
younger, you don't know whatthey look like now.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
No, for real.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
So what home gym are you training at now for your
next fight this month?
I saw you were at DLX.
Shout out to them.
They're awesome.
But what is like your mainstaygym right now in Vegas?
There's a bunch of gyms inVegas.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
So I'll go to Top Rank or UFC Apex, okay, but
mainly mainly Top Rank, top Rankyeah, yeah, without saying too
much, obviously, what's thesparring rotation looking like
right now?
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Just, I always ask fighters this, cause I'm always
curious about who who theysparring.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Uh, I mean, I'm working with, uh, with an
average guy, he's like 19 and noAaron McKenna, okay.
And then, uh, I got some roundsthat would allow the Garcia to
two times Nice.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Nice, I just saw, uh, our guy it to your way.
We're good friends with jahaitucker.
He, uh he was just over theredlx2 and he got some sparring
and I think not too sure.
But yeah, I'm always curiousabout what the sparring is like
and it makes sense.
You said you were sparring withterrence crawford for his, his,
uh fight and iron sharpens ironman, like sparring matters does
(13:18):
, does bomac, does he have yousparring a lot or no?
I know some guys don't spar alot, some guys do yeah, he got.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
He got me sparring tuesday, thursday, saturdays,
damn that is a lot that's good Imean he'll, he'll.
You know if you, if you see youpeeking early, looking too sharp
, he'll, he'll, he'll.
He'll be like listen, he'll letyou rest, okay, one day or two.
And I, I like I've neverexperienced that like so, like
two fights ago, when he did it,I was like are you sure you know
(13:46):
what I'm saying?
You tripping.
When I fought Marcos, theMarcos tab, he did that.
He was like you peeking toohard, you looking too sharp,
take a day or two off.
You know what I'm saying.
I'm like what Are you what?
Speaker 3 (13:59):
But yeah, and that was going to lead into my next
question like what is thedifference between training with
a stable and a camp like thatunder bomack and and red,
compared to, uh, your lasttraining because you've been
with them what like four or fiveyears now?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
but with bomack and them.
Yeah, yeah, two, two, two,maybe three, three, two, three.
I think I finished the end ofum.
I finished the end of the endof 2023, september.
I started training in September2023.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
So what is like the biggest difference between
training under them and not likesaying things bad about them?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I mean ain't nothing bad to say about K.
I mean I feel like K did whathe did.
I mean I wouldn't be thefighter I am without K.
He was with you in the Olympicstoo right, he was with you all
the way.
I mean I feel like you know, kdid what he did.
I mean I wouldn't be thefighter I am without K, you know
.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
He was with you in the Olympics too, right?
He was with you all the way,right, yeah, I mean K.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I started with K, I was K's first fighter, yeah, oh,
wow, yeah.
But I just feel like K, okay,okay, I mean I feel like not,
not that, I just feel likethey're more experienced yeah,
okay so, so, so I mean I feellike k still at the time, we're
(15:10):
still, we're still learning.
You know I'm saying okay, youfeel me.
Yeah, as far as where, wherebomac, they already know what
they're doing you're going to.
You know I'm saying they are,they have, they had crawford.
You know I'm saying so theybuilt crawford fromford from the
ground up so they already kindof like going into I don't know,
(15:31):
just like being around them.
You know make you being around.
You know the circular fightersmake you feel great and then,
like they know what they'redoing.
You know what I'm saying.
And it's three, four coaches,so like if two of them got to
leave.
You know what I'm saying.
And it's three, four coaches,so like if two of them got to
leave.
You know what I'm saying.
You still got.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
You know enough you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, enough focus.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
There's more of a focus on you.
Yeah, and you still got twocoaches that know what they're
doing, that's experienced enoughthat can train other fighters.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
So it's like a team, it's a team effort when you get
a whole team.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Oh, that's fire.
Okay, so it's really likeundisputed.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I trained with them two camps I worked with Crawford
, the Horn camp and the Burkecamp Okay, so I had already did
two camps with them.
So it kind of was it wasn't ashard of a transition.
Yeah, that's good.
Yeah, so we already, we alreadyknew each other.
I met them like 2018 becausethey were training in Colorado.
And then you know, I was alwaysboys with Shakur, I would
(16:33):
always be around Shakur.
And then you know, shakursparred me.
And then you know I seen Keithon Sparum and then I'm like,
okay, I'm going to spar you.
And then you know they was like, you know, come back, shit, we
may need you.
So I kept sparring him for theJeff Horn camp.
And then you know, like twoyears later they called me.
You know again.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
for Carol Brooke that means he did his thing against.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Crawford man, that's good.
What did you think it causedyou?
Bad, chill, chill.
Like I said, not sayinganything bad about your last
camp, just obviously that rightnow BOMAC and them, they're like
the top trainers in the game,like arguably one or two if you
were to take a vote.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I guess Probably the best team in the game.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Like you know, you can arguehere and there, but like that's,
they're pretty taken over, it'sjust taken over and that's
great.
Man, and you, obviously youmade the right choice because
you've been on the up and upagain, you're ranking, you're
cracking the top 10 in almostevery ranking, almost every
ranking, but to me, the only onethat matters, because you get
the boxing nerds really the onesthat are in the ring and you
(17:40):
crack the top 10 in that ringand you cracked the top 10 in
that a belt this year.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
we're thinking Well, I mean, I'm trying to get a
title shot by the end of thisyear and the beginning of next
year.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
That was my goal it's hard now, though, right like I
think, when you're number 8,right like you're in the top 10,
yeah, that people are going toavoid you.
You're risky, you're a riskybusiness right now which one?
Speaker 1 (18:04):
you in six then?
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I'm six in the WBO and 11 in the WBC and A&R
Magazine.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Who got the belt at the WBO, janabek?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Oh, yeah, janabek, you were calling him out too,
man.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah.
So by the end of this year,beginning of next year.
You know one or two more fights, but go ahead.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
He's tough.
He's tough as a fan's opinion.
He's a tough guy, but he's alittle inflated, like his resume
isn't really.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah, I know, I feel like you know he got a decent
win over Bentley, but I feellike that's the only person he
fought.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
But yeah.
But you know I always look atthe odds.
If the odds are highly favoringsomeone else, I'm like, okay,
this is a little inflated guyover here, but whatever, he
hasn't been too active, hehasn't been too active and
you're doing the right thing.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
He's avoided by other guys in the division To other
guys he's a risk, not to you,though, right.
Nah, I said I want the belt, sohell, no Chasing the belt.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
And without burning any bridges, because I'm not
trying to do that.
What's your take on this whole?
The Saudis trying to get rid ofall the belts and this, that
the other thing.
Are you a belt guy?
I know some fighters are like,ah, belts don't matter.
Do they matter to you?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I want to win one, two, three, four.
I to be forward, I want to winthem.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
So is the goal still to be undisputed, though.
Like in a fighter's mind, Ilove that.
Personally, I love like fourbelts.
I know the other.
There's always this like thewhatever, the Latino belt, or
whatever the.
Wbc did.
There's always, they're alwaysthrowing weird things in there.
But the four main belts Ipersonally loved.
Like, alright, you're great,but now you want to unify and
fight other champions.
So do you think that's good forboxing or bad?
(19:45):
I just want to get a fighter'stake on that the one belt was
kind of like UFC.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
You know what I'm saying One champion and one yeah
.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
So I mean, honestly, I like the four how it is.
You know what I'm saying andhonestly I would want to you
know undisputed.
That's what makes you legendary, you know in our sport.
So why would you?
You know after 50, 60 years ofit, why would you try to take it
out?
It don't make no sense.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
That's great to hear.
I love to hear that Because,like for me, when I'm always
arguing with my non-boxingfriends and they're like, ooh,
too many belts, I'm like the manwho beat the man and a lot of
fees, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Now, with all this, like with all this, like, like,
like WBC, like like 10, I don'tknow.
I see like with them, themlittle added little belts, yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Like they make it look good.
And now you got a guy you know,I see the rainbow belt and
everything.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
I'm like what is that ?
The Prime belt?
In England they got the rainbowbelt.
It's just too much.
It's confusing.
It's confusing for everybody.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
They got the Fighter Fury, whatever belt the video
game belt.
What belt is that?
Speaker 3 (20:51):
I think, the WBC, though, started to lose people.
They had the Aztec Warrior beltor whatever.
Then, when Tyson Fury fought,he got another weird belt.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
It's all promotion that's all Mexicans have.
Where was the black belt?
It was a belt for us.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
It was the black history belt.
Karate belts man.
But yeah, it's just confusingand I'm glad you said that
because it's good.
Belts do matter to me, the fourmain belts do matter, and I get
new fans coming in.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
But he's an Olympian, he's going to think like that.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah, that's true, it's true, I think that's all.
What do you walk around atweight rise, Because I'm not
going to lie and I'm notfanboying you or whatever, but
when you go in the ring man, youlook yoked.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Like you're, like superhero Jack, You're built
like a running back.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Did you play football growing up?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I played football before I started boxing.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Like Fernet.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
What position Running ?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
back.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
I played.
I played left side linebacker.
I played rec league though.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Okay, okay, rec league this is before I started
boxing.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
And then once I started boxing.
So I was a sore loser in teamsports.
You know what I'm saying yo,just like my and I, I like to
win.
You know I'm saying I was, Iwas an asshole.
So you know I was that teammatethat, like yo, if I had a
winkling I'm like get him outthe game.
You know I'm saying I was oneof them.
So you know boxing, you know,at first it felt natural because
(22:17):
I was getting into fights andstuff outside of school.
Yeah, so boxing it wouldn'tfeel natural.
And then, uh, you know I couldcontrol the whole destiny.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
You know what I mean.
It's on you.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah, so you know, I liked it, I liked it like that.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
I told my daughter like me and my baby mother told
my daughter.
I said she in the wrong sportbecause she get mad.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
That's for sure.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
That cheerleading the whole team be mad about it.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
No, for sure, you got that one person man, that's
every team you got to be, thewhole team got to be.
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3 (22:48):
And that's probably why you fall so good into
BOMAC's camps and BOMAC's team,Because I feel like and I don't
know anybody personally butthey're all like, yeah, get out.
No, you're the weakest link,Get out, Get out.
And that's good to hear, goodto see and it is working.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
But not being around them, though there's a bunch of
dogs on the team so you can'thandle weak link energy.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Let's see, that's great.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
But being around them just made me want to be great,
I feel great and I really dofeel there was like a difference
.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Nothing against your old trainers, for sure, for uh,
no, for sure, for sure.
There was like uh, you, youelevated just a little more,
that's all, and that's all youneeded.
And we're seeing it now.
And cracking the top 10 is noteasy for an.
Any fighter will tell you thatthat's like the goal originally.
Let me crack the top 20, let mecrack the top 10.
And here you are, and now we'rechasing belts.
How many fights this year areyou trying to fight?
(23:42):
How many times?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Well, I'm trying to get three at least.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Yeah, that's rare.
Now you get three fights a yearin boxing.
You're an active fighter,that's what they want.
So I mean I'm starting late.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yeah, Already in March.
So I mean, when I fight inMarch, you know, I June.
Okay, stay, busy, stay busy andthen you know, try to get, you
know, finish one definitely atthe end of the year.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
You gonna fight in New York or not?
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I love fighting in New York, dude, they you know
I'm waiting on them to get theto send me back.
I love New York.
That's.
That's the best love you know,and if you perform good they
gonna love you.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
You know what I'm saying.
I love New York.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
That's all you just made fans for life.
Now, we never leave them.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
We definitely, definitely.
I'm screaming, if we could, ifyou hate New.
York definitely.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
For sure, for sure, definitely, I love to fight in
New York.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
I'm hoping now with all the business side of things.
Obviously you're with Top Rankand I heard grumblings it wasn't
made official or whatever.
They're going to go with thezone after.
I hope they still bring fightsto New York.
I mean, it's hard not to, it'sNew York and I'm hoping for that
.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
No, for sure we're going to bring some fights to
New York.
We have to.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
That's what I said.
Like when I get old and retire,if I want to keep doing this
boxing journey, New York orVegas, Two options, the boxing
capitals.
So right now you're in Vegas.
You said you're training and isBOMAC, and all them out there
with you or are you hoppingaround a little bit until it
gets?
No, BOMAC and them they outhere.
Okay, they're out here.
That's cool, that's good tohear.
I think that's all I got, yougot anything else.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Willie, I don't know what happened off screen, but
what's your diet like?
What's your diet like?
Drawing it up?
No shit, nah, you funny, youfunny, you funny.
So I got.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
I got nutritionist, you know, either, either my boy
Alan, or or Perfecting Athletes.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Oh you're.
You're with Perfecting Athletes.
That's important, Cause I feellike all their fighters make
weight Like they never.
You never miss weight with them.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
So so I work with them.
They, they make me meals.
They bring my, uh, my mealsevery Sunday, you know for the
week.
They drop all my meals offevery Sunday for the whole week
and then you know they take careof me, you know they.
(26:12):
They get my rehydration rightand that's awesome.
But I mean, as far as food uh,it used to be, it used to be,
you know, um, like a lot of likeI don't know.
I just eat whatever sort of say, I'm gonna say whatever, but
like now, I try to.
I try to eat a lot of like likefish, vegetables, stuff that
don't stuff.
So after the fight, I used toeat pasta, I used to eat like
bread and stuff like that.
You know what I'm saying.
And then I would feel likebloated.
You know what I'm saying.
(26:33):
You don't want to fight offthat, you want to go to sleep.
So you know, now I try to keepit.
Stuff that's going to— stuffthat you're going to eat it,
you're going to shit out.
So I keep vegetables, fish.
That's really about it.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
It do get annoying, but so what's your favorite food
?
My favorite food is pasta,pasta, pasta.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Any type of pasta, and I would go get a pasta after
every weigh-in.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
That's why you love New York.
That's why you love New YorkEvery weigh-in for sure.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
After every weigh-in, you get a pasta.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
I was getting a pasta .
Now if I feel bloated Iwouldn't even care, I'd still
get another one later.
When I got a new nutritionist,he told me you know, all that
rice and dairy and all thatstuff is bad.
You know what I'm saying.
So it was hard.
This was the Marcos fight.
You know, I was trying it outand it was hard, but I wanted to
(27:30):
eat pasta.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
I wanted to eat all that so bad.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
I'm just eating the fish and vegetables and I'm like
I wanted to eat the pasta.
So bad, but I'm like, no, I'mgoing to try it out.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
I'm going to try it out.
I'm going to try it out, andthen you know, you seen the
fight against Marcos and.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I'm like, yeah, I'm going to stick with this.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
I'm going to stick with it.
I'm going to stick with it.
The fans wouldn't know none ofthis.
They don't know how hard thediscipline you be going through.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Your favorite food you can't even eat most of the
time you get the call and you'reready.
Give me a few weeks.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
You're not no Padley.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
I need eight weeks, eight weeks.
You need eight weeks forcollege.
Josh Padley, no.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I want to know how Josh Padley was walking around
at his fight weight.
They been called them.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
One fight I did.
I did take that one that calledone fight.
I think I had like six weeks.
Yeah, I thought I was going tofight Hob on the Sikora, on
Sikora's last fight with TopRight in July.
Yeah, and they had called meand was like, nah, we want you
to fight him in June 21st and Iyou know what I'm saying.
So like six weeks and stufflike that.
Then I went to Vegas for likethe last, like three and a half,
(28:45):
so, but I did, I did that onetime.
But usually usually I'm, I'm,I'm, I'm the eight weeks, I like
eight weeks, I like eight weeksto get ready for a Pacific
person.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Yeah, and that's smart Cause people don't think
forget about like being weightready and stuff.
Right.
Like you, the no, I go onvacation and take a plane ride.
I need like a day to settle in,like you know what I mean.
Like nobody likes flying aplane.
So like you were saying, padley, yeah, and Bacoli, like what
Bacoli did, like that dude gotoff the plane and fought.
Like that you're stiff as hell.
Like sitting on a plane.
(29:14):
Nah for sure.
But I mean, like he ain't Bro,he took like a selfie in Africa.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
And then you see the video of him like doing the I
don't know what the hell he was,the humping and shit.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
He had wait.
He had to be on a PJ, he had tobe on a private jet.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
I don't think so, dude.
He was taking like selfies.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
He's too damn big to be riding Nah they got him.
Saudi got him right for sure,saudi got him right for sure.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Had to.
Had to If they answered thecall, for sure Saudi got him
with the private for sure Aprivate with a bed in it.
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
It's a big dude bro he had to lay down because you
know he's sitting there.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
He's not sitting in the Western name.
He, what's the?
Speaker 1 (30:00):
name.
He's definitely not sitting ona regular player.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
They can be like who is that?
Imagine he got the window seatnext to his big ass.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
He really knocked my boy out, though.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Well, joyce and the heavyweights now, not Joyce, I'm
sorry, parker, parker, yeah,parker, he's been in shape and
when he's in shape he doesdamage.
I know a few fighters theycalled were like nah, nah, nah
nah, because they knew I was alittle scared for Parker at
first.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
I ain't going to lie.
Tell us what he came in BecauseI'm like that's a risky fight.
I'm like you were just about tofight for the belt.
And now you're about to fight akiller and you're not going to
fight for the belt.
You know what I'm saying.
You got to fight a betterfighter than what you were gonna
.
You know what I'm sayingalready face.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
He looked in shape though, he looked ready, he did
his thing, nah for sure, forsure, for sure, For sure.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Bacoli's a big guy though, dude yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
And he's ducked by many too.
Like you, he's like you.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
He's ducked by many.
Yeah, high risk.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
High risk.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Who self active.
And then I want to know who'syour favorite?
Uh, in the past as well, justcurious active.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
You're a fighter right now to watch.
I like watching.
Keyshawn Keyshawn.
Yeah, I like watching Keyshawn.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I like watching Keyshawn.
He's very exciting.
And, um, fairfighter, I meanright now, I mean either
Crawford or I like Canelo too.
That's good man.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
I'm excited for that too.
Crawford Canelo, I am excited.
There's a lot of like.
There's going to be a lot ofdebates, a lot of people going
back and forth, all the, all thelittle podcasts, all the
podcast losers like ourselvesare going to be debating.
Go wild.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
So I like old school fighters though.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
And you know who's your favorite old school fighter
.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
No, crawford, canelo.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
James for the.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Canelo James.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Toney, middleweight, james Toney.
Well, regardless, James Toney,marvin, hagler, holyfield, dre
and Floyd.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Okay, holyfield, you would say when you was like
growing up, trying to be likewhen you first started boxing,
who you mimicked after who youwatched.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Who was I mimicking?
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Who they say they reminded you of, or something
like that.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
They say Holyfield, holyfield.
That's probably because you'reso ripped, bro.
Yeah, and you know what yourstyle is.
Now that you mention it, yourstyle is kind of.
I think you're a little cleanerthan him, though your style is
a little cleaner.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
I feel like I keep, I feel like I think better yeah
you're a little cleaner.
But that's the James Toneythough.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Yeah, true, so you got the mix of all.
It's good to see that growingup, when you emulate someone
like that or fighters like that.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
It sticks with you even now at this point in your
career.
But also so like growing up, Iwasn't necessarily watching
Holyfield, okay.
So, kaya, tell me to watchAndre Ward Lomachenko.
That's where I got them anglesfrom.
I watched Lomachenko, andreWard Lomachenko, and then my dad
(33:04):
was a boxer fan.
He went to all the 80s fights,so he the one that put me on the
James Toney and then he put meon the Sugar Ray Leonard, the
whole Marvin Hagler, all thatwhole era.
He put me on all that era Istarted watching YouTube videos
on that, yeah on that.
And then, you know, I did mylittle history.
You know, ali, the heavyweights.
You know, back in the day, youknow my favorite was Foreman out
(33:24):
of them.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, foreman Foreman's one ofmy favorite fighters too.
And then the funny thing wasthe guy that played him was at
my fight in New Jersey.
He's a big fan of me too.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Really.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
That was a good.
I watched that too.
It came out on Netflix BecauseI didn't know much.
You know, yeah, we're a littleremoved from that era, like it's
just before us.
So it was good to see that.
I learned a lot about him fromthat and that was.
But that's awesome that youdownload all that data and you
know you spoke about Loma andthe angles and I saw that in
your last fight.
Specifically, you were showingangles like crazy.
I was like, oh shit, this hasgot a little bag in him.
(34:01):
He's got a little bag in him.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Appreciate that, appreciate that.
A lot of people be like, Ifight like a smaller fighter.
I had a growth spurt in ninthgrade.
I started off the school year132.
I ended the school year at 154.
(34:23):
But that's kind of why I usedto fight smaller and box and
stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
What do you walk around at?
Usually?
Is it hard to make weight foryou, nah?
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Nah, I mean it's not's not.
I walk around, I mean in camp,I'll be in like the 70 to like
75 range and I'll be sparringlike like guys is like 190.
So you know what I'm saying.
I'm not about you how latesparring these guys.
So you know I'm saying I come,I'll start cutting my way, I'll
keep it to like 15 to 12 to 15range and then I'll start
cutting it like the last littlethree weeks out.
(34:55):
But I mean, after a fight, youknow you rehydrate.
You're probably, I'll probablybe about 180 in the ring, you
know.
So you know, after the fight,you know I take my week off and
you know I like to travel andwhen I travel I like to go to
the best restaurants, I like toeat.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
So even saying pasta.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
No, no, I mean it ain't pasta.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
every time I make sure I get a pasta though.
I make sure.
I get a pasta you know, like,like, like.
Right after the fight.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Now I make sure I get a pasta but but for some reason
, whenever I'm making weight bro, it's wings.
Sometimes it's been pizza,sometimes it's just I don't know
.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
It's the mind man.
It's crazy.
I do like a crash diet RightOnce a year no carbs, no sugar.
I just do it for like 20-30days Because I'm a fluffy Mother
effer so when I do that IReese's Peanut Butter
commercials Like what is goingon.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Nah for sure it's the mind.
Nah for sure they put all thefood commercials on yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
I'm like why is this?
I've never seen this Deep dishpizza.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
I'm like bro.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Oh my God, and the cinnamon and the weed.
I'm like bro, come on, bro, yo.
But what I was going to say youknow, rob Markman.
You know how people got otherhobbies.
What's your other hobby thatyou like to do, rob Markman?
Off season?
Rob Markman, I like to shop.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
I'm a sneaker head.
I got over a hundred pairs oftennis shoes.
I got the shoe containers likehow Caleb plant.
But I've been collecting sincehigh school.
I wore the same size ever sinceI hit that growth spurt I went
from nine and a half to 11 and ahalf, 12.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Do you go to the shows and stuff like the sneaker
conventions?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Nah, I don't go there yet.
I'm going to save it for later.
Not right now.
Right now I go to the resalestores.
I'll buy the full five and ahalf shoes there, but you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
What's the rare shoe you got?
Speaker 2 (36:56):
What's the rare shoe you got?
I got the galaxy phones.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Oh, okay, oh no, oh wow, just a crazy, not the
galaxy, I got.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
The big bangs I got.
The black bottom ones, I gotthe black bottom.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
The crazy thing that you said that right last fight.
Did you have foam boxing shoeson those foam posits?
Speaker 2 (37:16):
No, I had on.
I think I had the black olivenines at the fight.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Now, which one did you have the silver joints on?
Oh, we talking about the shoesI fought in, yeah, when you were
fighting, yeah those were likefoam.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Those were like foam posits boxing shoes.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah, that's what I was saying.
I was going to ask you aboutthose shoes too.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Those are actual shoes, though I think it's
called, like something,athletics or something like that
.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
I thought they was like Nike foam pods.
I thought they was really Nikefoam pods.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
As I was like planning the whole fit together.
They were Nike foam pods.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
That's what they were meant to be.
You know what I'm saying?
I like the shop.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
You know I like the.
You know I feel you.
I like to shop.
You know I like to.
You know I'm typically like Ilike to try new things.
You know what I'm saying.
But I don't like to be scared,you know what I'm saying.
So it depends on who's driving.
But I have been putting in likesome.
Like I went water, water,riverboat rafting when I was a
(38:15):
teenager.
I did not like that.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
You got no control.
Yeah, I did not, I was like bro.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
yeah, I did not like that experience, but I like to
travel on my free time.
You know what I'm saying Go torestaurants, go eat.
I like to hang out with friendson my free time and shit.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Okay okay, it's so funny because the more fighters
and stuff we interview, Iidolize all of you, I'm jealous
of all of you, everything youguys are all my heroes, whatever
.
And then I told you I'm like,oh, you're like a regular dude
like me, man.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Rob Markman.
I'm chilling bro, I be chilling.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Rob Markman, do you play basketball at all?
Because I know Crawford.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Yeah, I hoop.
I hoop, I hoop.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
One-on-one?
No, I haven't.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
I feel not getting the hooping because, you know, I
got injured.
I got in 2020, when I was inUSC, I had a shoulder.
I had to get my shoulders fixedfor the whole 2020.
I took the whole 2020 off andthen I had to get my hand fixed.
So, because of injuries youknow what I'm saying I haven't
been like I hoop, but I don't belike.
I don't be like, oh, I'm goingto hoop every day.
It's like sometimes I'll belike I ain't hooping.
(39:19):
You know what I'm saying.
Majority of times it be likeI'm not hooping, I can't hoop.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
I hoop, I hoop you go ahead.
Who's the best hooper, bro?
Yo, so let me hear you have tobe dunking you like 5'10" Nah.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I ain't dunking, I'm slashing.
I'm slashing quarter threes andmid-rains, man Okay.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
I thought you would be dunking.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
You ever play.
You all play together inBOMAC's camp when you're in
those camps and stuff.
I know when you have somedowntime.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
We actually me, cora Keyshawn, all of us played like
a few a month or two ago youwere waxing.
We ain't really, we ain'treally.
Nah, we ain't really beenhooping like that.
Okay, okay, used to hoop hellaon Team USA, though all the time
.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
I bet as you get older too, you get more serious.
Basketball hurts, manBasketball hurts.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Nah, it is, it is.
It is.
Basketball hurts man, thoselike basketball.
It's like I ain't about to besore tomorrow.
You know what I'm saying it'scrazy like I.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
I'll spar whatever you know we box.
Whatever I'll spar, get my asskicked whatever one full court
game at la fitness.
My hips are hurting myeverything.
It's weird.
It's weird.
But hey, man, I think that'sall we got.
You got anything else We'll letyou go.
Thank you for giving us thetime as it is you gave us more
than we even bargained for Forsure.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Definitely good vibes .
Speaker 3 (40:44):
For sure that's us.
That's us Again.
I want to apologize.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
You got any gems for the people that's probably
watching?
Speaker 2 (40:55):
just started.
You know I want to tell you toalways.
You know, stay humble.
You know, never be big headed.
You know what I'm saying.
You can always learn in thissport.
There's always a guy out there.
You know what I'm saying.
There's always a time whereyou're going to think you know
it all.
And one sparring session.
You know a guy.
You know, oh okay, I got towork on my shit.
(41:17):
You know what I'm saying.
So you know, don't never gettoo big headed.
And you know, stay in the gym.
You know boxing.
You know it's everyday sports,it's an all year round sport.
So you know what I'm saying.
Ain't no off season in thisgame.
So you know, stay in the gym.
And you know, never getbig-headed, never feel like.
You know you learned everything.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Yeah, okay, I got one more question and then I swear
we'll let you go.
I could talk this all day.
So who is a fighter that maybethe public hasn't heard of yet?
And I ask everyone this, but weshould keep an eye out for like
a name, Someone coming up,Maybe a sparring partner,
Someone you got that we should.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
A nephew, a little cousin we should put it on the
radar.
Isley Jr, some shit.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Marcus Luther man.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Marcus Luther, marcus Luther.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Marcus Luther.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Write the name down what?
Speaker 2 (42:07):
weight.
Is he Sharp Sharp?
He's still amateur, he ain'tturned pro, yet oh, not pro.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Look out for him, marcus Luther.
All right, marcus Luther.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
But hold on, If you're looking for a
professional, that's my youngamateur, but professional I mean
Keon Davis.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Lester Martinez man, he got a big fight coming up.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Watch out, if you fight an undefeated guy, look
out for him, lester Martinez,and we actually met the Davis,
all the Davis brothers.
Okay, yeah, I'm going to markthat down and I'll keep my eyes
peeled.
Again, thank you for the time.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Appreciate you, man.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
If you hear anybody talking shit about that weird
drunk guy with the spa in at MSG, let them know we're good vibes
weird drunk guy with the spa inan msg.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Let him know we're good vibes, we're just fans.
Take care, all right thank you.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
So, oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
No, no, I got one more.
How did you get the nicknamethe transformer?
And then we'll close okay sorry, I meant to start with that so
good, that's all good.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Um, I used to uh, so yeah, like like how you say, now
I don't talk a lot of trash andall that.
So, um, then, then this beforethis, before all the muscles and
all that came, uh, I was skinny.
I was skinny and uh, it wasoverlooked.
You know, I'm saying, and funnything is, like like a month or
(43:30):
two ago, uh, this is one of theguys that that was around when I
first started.
His name name's James, hecalled me.
He called me like not too longago he was like I remember you
was in the gym, you used to cryand stuff, like that man.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
It was a rough start.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
I started when I was 11.
I didn't fight until I was.
I mean, I started when I was 8.
I didn't fight until I was like10, 11 years old.
It was rough, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So what's the name?
K?
This is around the time I hadprobably had like 10, 11 fights,
(44:04):
but I was starting out withthis one.
I was like, coming out, I waslooking sharp.
You know what I'm saying?
Hang with everything.
I was looking sharp.
So K had called James and waslike man James, you need to see
him.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
You need to see him.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
He'satti's going to get mad.
You need to see him.
He's sharp.
James telling me I ain't nocase of all this.
James, like man, you need tocome see him.
Man, troy, man, he different,you need to come see him.
But he gave me that namebecause how James was.
Nobody thought I was going todo anything.
I was always quiet.
(44:36):
I'll be the best fight, I'll bethe most exciting fight the
whole night.
Everybody oozing us, everybodycoming up to me after the fight,
kane was like we're going tocall you the.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Transformer.
Nah, that's perfect.
You came from a differentdemeanor.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
That's awesome and that is, I'm a big nickname guy.
That is one of the coolernicknames in the game.
That's a fact.
So again, troy, thank you somuch for the time.
Appreciate you, man.
You got camp coming.
Well, you're in camp now.
Unfortunately, we won't be ableto make it to Vegas.
We would love to.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
I know you'd be tuned in for more support, so it's
all good.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
Oh, definitely I got a damn wedding.
My wife won't let me leave, soI got to go to this damn wedding
, or else we would be there.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
But it's like.
It's like six, seven weddings,no friends.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
No friends, weddings suck.
No friends, I'm like, why evenget married?
No, that's a different podcast.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
That's a different time.
I mean, that's experience.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
I want You're good man.
I'm not saying get married, butI'm talking about going there.
You know what I'm?
Speaker 2 (45:36):
saying Going to a wedding.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
You know what I'm saying he said, he said.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
But I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
I understand what you're saying, nah, it's good,
it's good.
I love my wife.
She's going to listen to thisand I'm going to have to box.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Nah, he said nah nah.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
Troy again.
Thank you so much, man, weappreciate it.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Big fans yeah, definitely no problem bro, y'all
definitely you know good vibesman.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
I definitely pull back up whenever Of course, and
I promise man on everything Ilove, next time you're in New
York we will be there ringside,no matter what, All right.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
For sure man Appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
Take care man, All right.
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