Two Black Guys and a Puma Walk Into a Boxing Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's time for the main event.
It's the Sparring Podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Oh, it's working.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Bear with us what are we live on though?

Speaker 2 (00:25):
I think YouTube.
Youtube, okay yeah just YouTubeBaby Steps, first time ever
live.
Oh, it's Willie Puma and aspecial guest.
We're not gonna say his realname, but you know him.
You've seen his memes.
He's been on the show beforePunchlines Boxing what up man?

Speaker 3 (00:40):
What's good you can say my real name.
The watermark I put on all myshit has my name in it and
people just don't see it.
I don't want to throw that outthere.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
I don't want to throw that out there.
You say it he is the funniestman on social media.
He's pissed everybody off, butalso made them laugh at the same
time.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Oh yeah, I've been blocked by fighters, bro.
I've been blocked by BrendanSchaub, Antonio Tarver.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Why'd Schaub block you?
He's like a funny guy.
Why the fuck did?

Speaker 3 (01:08):
he block you Because I was talking shit about him.
Really, yeah, he's a fuckingdumbass dude.
Snack blocked me, floydSchofield's dad blocked me.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yo.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
You know why he blocked me.
I was like, hey, can Floyd askhis dad if he can fight Abdullah
Mason?
Blocked me and now thismotherfucker's off talking about
how he wants to fight AbdullahMason, like no, you don't.
You want two and a half milliondollars for a fucking prospect
versus prospect.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Fight, you liar that's fucking crazy though, but
you do, you do.
You are very outspoken, but welove it and, honestly, uh, we
were talking about the um, theshirts, thanks for playing.
They're kind of who got me incahoots with you, but I'm not
gonna get all mushy again.
The reason you're on the showand you actually asked me you
boxing's pretty dead right nowand you have, uh, a lot on your

(02:02):
plate, a lot on your mind, witha special fighter to me, a very
special fighter who's been inthe news a lot lately.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
You say his name, since we're playing the name
game here, since there's twoblack people on this team.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah bro, we finally.
We're the majority now.
It's the great replacementtheory, but I don't dislike
Tiafimo.
That's the thing tiafimo lopezpeople.
That's who he was I'm not goingagainst him because he said
liquor or all this shit, it'sjust we, we heard what he said.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
He did not say liquor .

Speaker 3 (02:37):
He didn't say liquor, bro, but the the whole, the
whole prospect of his fight withboots.
I don't understand why peoplethink it's a 50-50 fight.
I really don't, and it's not mebeing a boots fan, which I
openly am, I'm a huge boots fan.
Being a TO hater is justlogically I don't think TO is
going to win and every argumentfor TO female winning makes no

(03:01):
sense either.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
And as a self-proclaimed to sexual um.
I'm on the liquor, though, sothat is why, uh, I I agree with
you and that's coming for me,but I think what got you going
was you said these fans, and youwere sending me some zesty
photos of the fans oh, yeah,wait what wait, what I missed?

Speaker 1 (03:26):
it.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
What so I posted photos I posted a video
yesterday and it was the videoof tim bradley saying you know
to, has more experience.
He's beaten more elite namesboots hasn't.
Like, because of thatexperience, like it's going to
be a tough fight for boots andlike after everything he would
say for teo, I posted a clip ofhim either getting dropped or

(03:49):
rocked and I paused it and Iwould show how many knockouts
that and it's like how is hegoing to beat boots?
Like that was the whole pointof it and people agreed with me.
But a lot of people were comingat me telling me tim's right,
tim's right, you're an idiot.
So I was just going back andforth with these dudes for the
last two days and one of thesedudes looked gay as fuck.
I told him.

(04:09):
I told him he, I was like bro,you got the most popular guy in
jail lips again again.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Uh, if your kids are listening, which they're
probably not just- yo, that'sfunny though like in boxing.
There's the saying pull nopunches, he pulls yo.
I love it.
I always read talk shit like.
But is that, is that what gotyou like Yo?

Speaker 1 (04:24):
that's funny as hell.
Like in boxing there's a sayingpull no punches, he pulls Yo.
I love it.
I always read talk shit likethat, but is that what got you
like.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
So you posted that video, which was hysterical with
the Tim Bradley thing, and whatmade like they just started
DMing you right.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
All the fans, no they were commenting on it and I was
going back and forth with themand they're like boots hasn't
beat anybody and I'm likethey're like keo's beating loma,
he's beating josh taylor and Iwas like okay, does loma or josh
taylor beat boots at 147?

Speaker 2 (04:54):
and like well, using the pound for pound theory, I
think I was like you know, thisisn't, oh my god, we're not
talking about.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
If you were arguing about who deserves to be higher
on a pound for pound list or whohas a better resume.
That's tfimo all day, but we'retalking about a real fight at
147.
So does loma or josh taylorbeat boots at 147 and they're
like no, of course not, he's toobig.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
I was like that's my fucking point, dude the whole
thing I'm making exactly and andwhen, with what tim bradley
said.
Actually, willie sent me it andhe's like, oh, you got a boner
yeah, I was like yeah, you got ahard one and I'm like, I'm
listening to him and likeeverything's making sense, but
he's leaving the one x factorout and and size matters in in
all parts of life so it's notjust size, it's not.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
It's not.
It's not like.
It's not like when roy jones jrwon the heavyweight title
against john ruiz, right liketeo can't just go in there and
be more athletic and moreexplosive, because boots is just
as athletic and explosive yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
So, from from what I heard, actually our friend who
uh left hook jamal, a goodfriend of ours he he actually
was was team teo in a sense,where he was like saying, and it
made sense, he's like I don'tknow, like yeah, but Tio's going
to hit him, he's going to gethit and he's going to win some
rounds, like you know, not liketeetering on what but Boots,
this is what people don'tunderstand.

(06:15):
And again, this is coming fromthe arguably self-proclaimed
biggest Tio fan right, biggestTO fan right.
Willie knows, if I showed youaround here I'd have like 20 TO
pictures.
Don't judge me, but Boots is164, or, I'm sorry, 147, and

(06:36):
he's going to come in at like170, and he stopped Stan Jonas
who has TO stopped.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
The last stoppage he had, the last knockdown he had
was Pedro Campos, exactly In2022.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Exactly and stopping Stan Jonas.
Nobody thought, no expertthought.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
No, regular guy thought I definitely didn't.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
I thought he was going to stop him too.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Did you you?

Speaker 2 (06:57):
thought he was going to stop him.
I did, really, I did.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
I'm also really high on boots.
I've been saying it since 2021.
When he knocked out LippinYates, I was like this dude is
the future number onepound-for-pound fighter in the
world.
We're like it's going to bebetween him and Shakur.
That's what I said then.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
We should have known, though, with Stylianos he
didn't have a foot in.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Matt Long, I'm like yo he tried to get in the ring
with.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Boots and you need to take a warm-up fight.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
So that's all right, not to cut you off, Puma.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
No, no, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
That's the other arguments that people are
throwing at me, Like, oh, Bootswent the distance with a guy
named Karen.
It's like, okay, TO goes thedistance with fucking everybody
and one of them was SteveClaggett okay, that rhymes with
we're not gonna say they start.
They start poking holes in boots, resume, and then when you do
the same thing to teal they'relike, oh, you're moving the

(07:51):
goalposts, like they'll be like,oh, standy onus hadn't fought
in almost a year.
It's like, okay, loma hadn'tfought in 14 months when he
fought him.
Yeah, josh taylor hadn't foughtin 16 months when he fought him
.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
And his fight before that was the one, the win
against josh catarall, when mostpeople don't even think he won
no, I didn't think he won thatfight either, but with the loma
thing, that was when loma was inhis prime.
Like teo fall in his prime, andthis is another thing.
Being a teo sexual, I'm gonnaback my guy still the.
The one thing he does havegoing for him is what I noticed
whenever he calls a dude out andwe don't have much to go off of

(08:24):
, but like Loma, for example, hewas calling Loma out right away
.
Right, I want Loma.
We see something, I want Loma.
He's been saying the same thingabout Boots.
Now again, I'm not an idiot,I'm not being biased.
It's a tough, tough task.
I'm here for it, though.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
And it's a win-win for Tio.
Can you agree to that?
Yeah, and it's a lose-lose forBoots, because even if Boots
knocks him out in the firstround, nobody's going to give
him credit for that, just likenobody gave Arrow credit for
beating Mikey Garcia.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah, that's a valid point.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
It's definitely a lose-lose, because if he loses,
oh man Tio waiting to beat ablack guy.
Here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
When he calls people out, sometimes there's always an
a and.
But because we called out tankafter tank b rolly and they were
interviewing teo backstage,he's like I guess I'm the guy
that beat him.
Like, oh, will you fight him?
He's like, yeah, but tell himto come to espn, which?

Speaker 2 (09:17):
you know is not gonna happen there's.
There's something going on toowith the uh, with the weight
like we talked about last night.
Uh, because teo postedsomething like pretty cryptic.
It was like oh, sign the, notsign the contract.
I don't know what the fuck itsaid, it's don't accept the
terms, whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah becausethere's definitely terms.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
The word terms kind of put me in my mindset like
trying to say teo ducking huh, Idon't think he's ducking, you
know, and but like remember whenhe called out after he beat
Josh Taylor.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
He called out butt.
He's like, I want TerrenceCrawford at 145.
It's like, why, bro?
Like, if you're going to callout boots when he's the champion
at a weight class and you thinkyou can beat him, beat him at
the weight class.
Don't do any of this and buttshit.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
I will say this, though.
I will say this, though Basedoff the last fight at Times
Square in New York City TO stolethe show.
And was what's it called?
What's the word I'm looking for?
God damn it.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
The only one that performed well.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
No, no, Even before that leading up to it.
Carrying the promotion, and thatis exactly what Turk wanted.
I've spoke on it before.
Turk wanted all those guys andall those personalities to clash
, and the only one that didn'tmature was Tio, and so so I I do
think that that Turk is goingto throw money at him, hoping
for that drama, something likethat, and especially now with

(10:36):
the comments, the word liquor,alcohol that he said.
But Turk's going to throw moneyat him, and now we have some
buildup for for a mega fight, ina sense.
But there is one fight and andI'm being a what are you?
What are you?
A conspiracy theorist, I'mbeing a little conspiracy
theorist here I think Tio'ssetting up for a fight versus

(10:57):
Haney.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
I think this is this is all a game.
That's a way better fight.
That's a way better fight forTio and it's a way better fight
for boxing, because boots versusTio doesn't really do a whole
lot unless.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Tio wins.
No, it's like a cash grab forTio.
It's like everyone chasingCanelo.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
He's been waiting for a cash grab.
That's all he's waiting for.
That's why he do all thisantics.
But you can't deny.
You can't deny Everyone.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
You can't deny.
You can't deny.
Like everyone says duck, duckand there's always a butt.
But in the ring Tio has it, hedoesn't show up.
When he doesn't show up, I getthat, but when he does show up
he's hard to beat and he's kindof I don't want to say high risk
, low reward, he's high risk,fuck you're going to have an L

(11:41):
on your record to T is he'ssmall as hell in person.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
He is, he is, he is he's small in person.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Again, I'm not saying he beats Boots, listen, I was
there live.
I saw that fight in person andI didn't.
Stenionis was so high liketough-wise to me, eastern
European, just a gritty dude.
I did not think Boots was goingto stop him and he fucking quit
on the stool.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
He quit on the stool, Steamrolled him and was showing
off.
We're talking about this personthat got the same boxing skills
as you, but is way bigger thanyou.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yeah yeah, they like to say his fans like to say oh,
but Boots gets hit a lot.
It's like so does TO bro.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, yeah, he does TO gets rocked.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
You see his nose he got rocked by Barbosa, who has
11 knockouts and 33 fights.
He got dropped by Martin.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
He got hit once by Barbosa, though that one clean
shot and it buckled his knees,bro.
No, it did not buckle his knees.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
I have the video of it.
It's in the video Send me.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
It's literally in the video Send me his knees
buckling.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
It buckled his knees, bro, he got buckled.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
But you could say he got knocked down by Kambosis
I'll give you that one and hegot knocked down by Martin too,
and Kambosis had 10 knockoutsand 22 fights and Martin has 15
knockouts and 42 fights.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
That's all knockout percentages of less than 50% at
weight classes 135 and 140.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
My man did his homework coming at the TO
section.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
That was what the whole video was about.
And they're like oh, but Bootswent the distance with.
Karen.
Boots got hit by Avanagi and hegot hit by Karen.
It's like, okay, but I'm notsaying that those shortcomings
and concerns for Boots aren'tthere.
I'm just saying TO is not theguy to take advantage of.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
So, based on what you're saying, though, yes, I
agree with you, but you couldsay the same thing for Boots.
Just Boots is bigger, like TOgets hit, as you just said, and
Boots gets hit as well.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, and you know what, when they quote-unquote
struggle, like Boots did againstKaren, I guess even though the
first fight, he won all 12rounds and the second fight.
He still dropped him, him.
Teal's not dropping anybody, nothat's not his natural weight.
He's not dropping people at 140.
And when?
you bring that up, it's like, oh, he's not a power puncher, he's

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a slick, he's a mover, he's aboxer.
It's like, okay, is he going tobe able to do that for 12
rounds against boots?
Cause it's the same reason Tiokind of struggles is, he's
overconfident and he's going togo in there and he's just going
to, he's going to use hisphysical attributes to overwhelm
you.
That's what he did againstAvanazian.
That's why he was getting hit alittle bit against Avanazian.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
That's what he tried to do against Karen and it just
didn't go perfectly to plan butalso also I think a lot of it
with boots is kind of like Tio,just boots is a little better in
my opinion.
He doesn't show up for thecompetition, like if you look at
the Stagnonis fight, arguablyhis best opponent yeah, that's
the best opponent he's everfaced he showed up, he didn't

(14:35):
take any time, he wasn't foolingaround.
He was fooling around when hehad him, but like he took him
seriously, he wasn't playing youknow what I mean?

Speaker 3 (14:42):
He threw like eight straight uppercuts to finish
that fight.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah, and and with these eastern european dudes,
the other dudes he's fightingthat aren't necessarily are all
high risk, low reward.
I don't think he was really.
He just went in there a littletoo confident and and he, he did
get hit it is boxing to relieson a and that's counterpunching,
just to get knocked down thatwould be like but against
counterpunch, counterpunch too.
They're really alike, justone's way bigger and switches.

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Tio doesn't really switch.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Boots' whole thing too.
Like if he wants to box on theoutside he can.
Like he did it against RoyMonvia for like the first half
of that fight and then, once hegot Roy Mon to stop throwing and
just stand there, that's whenhe started going mid-range and
even close Boots is really.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
He's got every tool in the book and he has a good
chin.
To's not knocking him outVersus.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
TO.
He's not fighting on theoutside, though.
Yeah, he's going to try andbully TO, he's going to show his
dominance.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
I think he can keep him at the end of his jab for a
bit and then like TO's smallargument and all this energy
we're putting into it.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
I swear already today something came out.
It's not going to happen, yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
I don't think it's going to happen, but I.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
The only reason I hope it does is so I can clap
back at all these people andtell them to shut the fuck up,
because Boots is having troublemaking 147.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
He's growing, he's going to be at 154.
And now there's some realfights for Boots at 154.
And now there's some realfights for boots at 154, like
like virgil ortiz jr, yeah,that's a massive massive.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
That's a great fight, yeah that's yeah that's the
future big fight and see thatwould be a hard fight for me
yeah, I know, I know that's yourboy I love boots and I love
virgil yeah, I like virgil too.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
We actually we met him um at the the time square
fight.
You know he's cool as shit.
Just I didn't know he had handsurgery.
Was that you that really dappedup?
He's like ah, don't touch myhand.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
That wasn't me.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
That was somebody else.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
I noticed that he was just using his left hand.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
I didn't even notice that.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
People have respect.
They don't really use theirleft hand to dap people up.
He was using his left hand likethis.
I'm like, yeah, his handsfucked up.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
Yeah, I can never root against Virgil bro,
especially when Sandy Ryanfollowed me and I posted that
video of her following me and hecommented on it.
He's like hey, bro, thanks forletting me borrow your Lambo.
Yeah, yeah, I remember that.
That's my boy, bro.
I can never really get this guy.
He's funny too.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
When somebody tweeted out it's like yo, is Virgil
going to win this weekend whenhe was fighting Mautermar and he
quote, tweeted it and he postedthat I think it's Kodak Black
and he's like I hope so, yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
He is funny.
I hope so.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
He was a little overwhelmed, I think, in New
York, though In New York, yeah,he was chilling you didn't see
no personality.
He was probably just tired bro.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Probably, and his fucking hand was broken or
something.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
He had hand problems.
I like Virgil, I don't likethat people say he ducked Zayas
Bro, he is not ducking Zayas.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Who's ducking him?

Speaker 2 (17:41):
That's my point, bro.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
You want to talk about somebody being overrated,
with no wins on their resume.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
It's Xander Zayas.
I can't.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
I can't speak bad about Xander Zayas anymore,
because his family, his familywants my head on a spike.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
He's overrated.
He's like I don't care, he'soverrated, he is.
I'm sorry it.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
He's like, I don't care, he's overrated, he is.
I'm sorry, but his best win isfucking old Patrick Teixeira
dude.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
And we keep on banning him for knockouts.
That's why.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
He's a slick boxer.
He's very slick and has boxingIQ and getting better and
growing.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
He's big as shit.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
He's talented, but he's not top five in that weight
class top rank wanted a puertorican and they saw the money he
generates in new york they.
They found that, yeah, he gotthe best gig, but yo shout out
to his family too, becausebecause they don't beat me up at
the fights, so I gotta get itno, like I, he seems like a very
nice guy, but like this isn'twhat the conversation's about.

(18:43):
You, you know what I'm sayingyeah, yeah, no, you're right,
bro, I went to there's only afew fighters that I dislike, and
I always root against thembecause I dislike them.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
Name them, name, them name them, keith Thurman, for
sure Come on, man.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
I can't stand Keith either.
I ain't going to lie Me either.
I'm not to keep there my friend.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
He's a fucking cornball bro.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
But he knows he's a cornball now.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
He got His fucking quotes.
Catch me off, guard youremember when he's playing the
flute.
What you gonna do, Dumbass?
Bro what the fuck are we in1950?
Motherfucker sounds like.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
Daffy Duck.
The other one's, edgar berlanga, bro like.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
But I don't think anybody likes edgar berlanga?
So so.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
So, so I I have I met edgar twice and I'm having a
change of heart, man.
And then, and then here's mymain reason.
Why, though, during covid right, I spoke about this and I
probably told you, if I did justjust tell me to shut the hell
up.
But during COVID, I rememberlaying in bed and Edgar was
doing like some illegal gamblingthing like roulette on
Instagram, and you could bet andthey'd Venmo, you money him and

(19:53):
some like hood rats, and youtold him that too.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah, he was like oh where are you doing that?

Speaker 2 (19:58):
I was like, yeah, I was going to lie like yo.
You never sent me the money,though, and edgar is another one
like the thing, so let's talkabout that.
You know, boxing's kind of on aon a dull note.
And again, uh, for our radiolisteners, we are live right now
on youtube first time ever.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
This is going to be a link.
The post is on my, yeah I sentit to you.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
I tagged you.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
You were late, willy oh shit um the link already in
it.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yeah, this, this episode might go really long.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
We are here with punchlines underscore boxing, so
me and punchlines we're kind ofwe have like a little bit of a
bromance.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Can we call it that like an?

Speaker 3 (20:32):
internet bromance.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah, yeah, I don't care he always hits me up late
at night because the timedifference and I'm wasted after
fights.
I'm sitting here like, oh hey,what's up?
Man?
Um yeah, where were we?
Berlanga, berlanga, shiraz,what do you think?

Speaker 3 (20:46):
punchlines about who's going to win.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Oh man, I was having this conversation the other day.
Berlanga's got the power, bro.
I'm not going to take anythingaway from his power.
The dude hits like a fuckingtruck.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yo, english fighters are over-fucking-rated.
And I'm not saying Berlanga'slike this boxing savant, I'll
tell you one thing he's going toneed to get a knockout because
he's going to get cheated, theonly thing going for him.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Don't go the distance with that man.
That's Turk man.
That's Turk man right there.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
If you don't think New York's legal system is
corrupt, the New York StateAthletic Commission it's in
Queens is going to be the onesreffing the fight and everything
.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
You know, turk and Saudi are reffing the fight and
everything yeah, you know, turkand saudi are funneling them
money.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
So yeah, you bet, berlanga is gonna need a ko tko,
a knockdown.
I'm betting the draw because,because I could see him like
just landing some heavy shots,like I like this.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
My boy, ingles jingles, brought this up to me.
He's a fighter out of vegas andhe was like you think turkey's
just trying to like you thinkhe's getting him that berlanga
fight so he can be in line for acanelo fight after that?
And I was like I don't, I don'tknow about that because I don't
know if canelo would fight him.
He might, that's if canelobeats bud, but, like he probably
knows, canelo's retiring soonyeah, so he just wants him to

(22:07):
get a belt once canelo leaves orvacates or something.
But the Berlanga fight ain'tgoing to be easy.
Shiraz does have a great jab.
You saw it in the ammo fight,you saw it in the first half of
the Adamas fight.
But those guys were smallcompared to him.
Berlanga's not going to besmall compared to him.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Adamas, I think beats Berlanga.
I think, Adamas beats Berlanga.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
I thought he won against Shiraz.
He's won that fight.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
That shit pissed me off, bro.
The whole thing with Turkey ishe's here to make boxing better.
He's here to give us the bestfight.
He's here to get rid of allthis corruption.
As soon as a Muslim dude fights, he's there cheering on the
crowd Cheering on the crowd.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
So I'm as like a fanboy and Willie and I try to
go to every New York fight.
My checking account wentnegative this week because of
that, so we try to go to everyfucking New York fight.
I'm curious to see what he'sdoing with the fans.
He's already fucking up.
Turk's already fucking this up?

Speaker 1 (23:10):
What about this fight ?
What are you saying about thisone?
This is like we can get ticketsto this shit, so they didn't
know where it was at first.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Now it's going to be at the tennis stadium in Queens,
which is cool, but there's noticket sales yet.
This is where the one thing I'mlearning about this podcast
thing is like the internet worldjust loves to just come at you.
So people were coming at mebecause I posted something uh
about like oh, I hope it's, Ihope the fans could go welcome
to boxing yeah, yeah, like youwould know better than I would,

(23:37):
but I'm new to this, so so I hadthese people coming at me like
yeah, oh, of course it's at atennis stadium, dude, of course,
of course the fans are gonna go.
I go, you sure about that,because, uh, midtown manhattan
was, was a public area and thefans couldn't go.
What are you talking?

Speaker 1 (23:53):
about.
You could have been seen from ahotel that you've seen.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Usually in time at this point.
They have the pre-sale fortickets and they didn't.
So what is Turk doing?

Speaker 1 (24:04):
When is this fight?

Speaker 2 (24:06):
It is in July.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Where's the sales?

Speaker 3 (24:09):
at Usually the pre-sales are ready A lot of
fans are pissed off too, thatShakur Zepeda's the co main.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yeah, that was weird.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
It's weird, but I also think it's fucking stupid.
Who cares?

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yeah, it's two great fights, Two great fights.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Does it matter?
Does your viewing experiencechange based on Shakur and
Zepeda fight?

Speaker 1 (24:34):
No, For real, shakur is the issue.
He's the one that makes this anissue.
He thinks he's bigger thaneverything, but he doesn't
understand that the fans don'tthink he's bigger than everybody
.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
So he's like in the boxing diehards right,
style-wise, defense-wise, jabwise, jab wise.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
He is a boxing savant he should be, I should be.
Yeah, yeah, he's a boxer.
He's a boxer, I'm a big.
Yeah, he should be, but thefans don't think that.
Like he don't get it he don'tget it.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
You know what his problem is, though, like because
because, like you could comparehim and Gervonta, right, same
type of fan base.
Whatever they have the culture,they're kind of like rock stars
in their own mind.
You know what I mean.
They're always aroundcelebrities.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
But the difference is it's the new Errol Budd for
real.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Yeah, exactly, that's a good point.
But Tank knocks dudes out andShakur doesn't out and Shakur
doesn't, and that's the problem.
And people will be like, oh,but Mayweather never knocked
anyone out.
Yeah, but Mayweather's stylewas just so different that he
still put more offensive outputout there.
So that's like the issue, Ithink, with Shakur.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
There's never been anyone better at selling a fight
either than Floyd.
Oh yeah, that too, that'sanother thing.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yeah, that's a valid point where shakur can't sell.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
You know, that's one thing your boy is not good at is
selling a fight man his trashtalk need to step it up a little
bit because he him and williamis just facing off and just
looking kind of awkward.
I'm like what's going?

Speaker 3 (26:11):
on like, but also too like, outside of boxing fans.
Who the fuck knows who williamsyeah, no, you're right, you're
right and that's a hundredpunches around.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yeah, this is gonna be outside of boxing.
I can't wait to see it so.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
So that's what.
That's where turks fucking upagain.
We'll go back to that, becausehe should be promoting that like
.
If you want to make the sportbetter I say this all the time
you need you need to bring newfans in the UFC guys and the
people that come over to watchthe fights.
They need to know who the fuckZepeda is, and that's the
promoter's job.
This is a great fight becauseShakur's never fought someone

(26:43):
like this and you know, nomatter what he's coming, whether
it's good or bad.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
The UFC got more knockouts, though.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
They're dying down too, though.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Yeah, yeah, knockouts though they be, they're dying
down too.
Though, yeah, yeah, even theirfans, even their fans are
complaining about the mid cardsthat they're getting right now,
because I, I follow some mmapages, because I, I collab with
them sometimes yeah and, liketheir fans, are like dude these
cards right now fucking suckrumorville has it too.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Rumorville has it.
Uh, if you saw the, the boxingnews um, dana white is not, is
actually not going to be thepromoter for Canelo.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
It's.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Sella or something.
Yeah, sella, whatever, I don'tknow what that is what are we
doing.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
I'm tired of the fate of fury.
I'm tired of all that shit.
Who the fuck plays that game?

Speaker 2 (27:24):
UFC.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Yeah, I didn't even know it was a game?
I thought it was just anothergay-ass nickname for one of the
fight cards.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
It looks like they got belt yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
It looks like a shitty street fighter.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Who the hell?
Whoever played it?

Speaker 2 (27:38):
they met.
They made it seem like they waslike you know what it is dude,
it's Turk has, and again he'sput for the fight fans.
He did put great fightstogether like but he's just the
midlife crisis and when you haveall that money, how do you
relive the 80s, you?
You put all these thingstogether with the 80s, bro high

(27:59):
key.
I think he's autistic I'm noteven kidding, probably, probably
, probably.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
You know that and that's coming from, that's
coming from my fucking head cutoff.
Yeah, yeah, hopefully it's onyour instagram, though, bro, I
wish I was wearing the shirt Iwas wearing before I put this on
on my jfk apoc is a foreignagent shirt, because I'd be like
no dude, I'm on, I'm on yourside, I'm on your side, no, no

(28:24):
but we're okay, we're all.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
All three of us are a little bit autistic, so it's
okay, we could.
We know our own.
Yeah, that's all.
We run boxing accounts.
Of course we are.
We're idiots, we're straight upidiots.
I'm dead.
But yeah, I mean, it's just, Iwant to see.
So when there's a good fight,that I know is a good fight and
you know I try to throw fightparties and I got to go beg my

(28:46):
UFC friends or my cousins thatlove UFC and I'm like no, no,
this is going to be a good fight, come, come, and they're like
their first response is I didn'teven hear about it, it's not
going to be a good fight.
And like that's how you tapinto that other market.
Well, they don't do promotionoutside.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
Yeah, all their promotion is within the box.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
And I've been saying this years, and they finally did
it the day of the fight in timesquare and they got pat mcafee
involved.
Yeah, that's smart.
Put these dude, get twofighters fighting each other on
that mcafee's show first of all.
He would love that, of course,bring a lot of outside guys into
it and this might make peopleuncomfortable and I I don't care
, but it's just a fact thatboxing needs more white american

(29:37):
fans because it's a big fanbase.
It's it's a loyal fan base,which is why the ufc numbers are
always big.
They don't care about wins andlosses or much.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
That much is proven with the ufc and they they buy
pay-per-views and they continueto buy pay-per-views and that's
a good point, because if youlook at like a, you can compare
it to like a rap cd, right, andand I think 50 cents said this a
while back something like this.
He was like yeah, like cool,the hood loves me, or whatever,
right, but I, I need the whitepeople to buy my cds.

(30:06):
That's why and that's whatelevated him is and that's what
does sales, and it makes senseit.
You're right, though.
You're right, ufc does have apredominantly bigger white fan
base, but yo, you know whatTurk's not going to do that
they're with the zone, they'relosing ESPN.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Why do you think Mike Tyson is so big?

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
I feel like it's such a common misconception amongst
boxing fans that white Americansonly want to root for white
fighters and I just don't thinkthat's true.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
They love white.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
They secretly want to be black Shit, I do.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
I wish I could say liquor so bad.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Willie can't hide.
He's got no laptop.
Willie's raw dogging it, by theway, for our listeners on the
radio Yo.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Yo, that's my guy.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Yo, I keep looking, I keep looking.
I'm like, oh, we got one viewer, it's me.
I'm on my laptop.
I'm like, ah, damn, fucking gaydude, it's all right, we'll get
better.
I'm going to start pushing theYouTube shit, though this is
kind of cool.
I'll send you a picture we lookofficial.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
You just got to keep on going bro.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Just like Instagram, yo.
So you know and this is for ourlisteners too all you people
trying to do social media stuff,first of all, I want you to
tell them how expensive it is ifyou really want good shit, and
then how time-consuming, likehow much of your day is put into
like editing videos or thesememes oh my god, the memes I'm
quick with because I've justfigured it out, but when?

(31:36):
I did the podcast bro dude, youknow, like when we get done here
, I'm sitting up here.
I fell asleep down here, likeI'm like oh my god, and my edits
aren't even good, but I'm liketrying, so I'm like what?
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (31:49):
so the I would, because I did mine over zoom.
So first it was waiting for thefighter to show up yeah, on
time, which rarely they do andthen doing the interview and
then I would have always latewait what, bro?
I told you, I had practice, bro,you've been downloading the

(32:12):
video from Zoom, getting thevideo, editing it, cutting out
the buffer in the beginning andthe buffer at the end, doing the
overlay, like putting theirname on there, their Instagram
handles, like if I had ads onthe screen, I'd have to put that
in.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Yeah, I could do that , but it's so time consuming,
bro, I don't, I'm just like youcan get quick with it.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Yeah, what you got to do is you got to make it one
graphic and then just upload itover the video so it uploads as
one graphic rather than like 15.
Yeah, and it goes way quicker,and I can teach you how to do
that.
It's actually pretty easy so Iuse.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
I've went through programs i'm'm spending so much
money but shout out toStreamYard, that's what I'm
using right now Cause, like yousaid, zoom right, I did Troy
Isley, which was a greatinterview we had with him.
We actually I became a big fanof his.
He was funny, he was cool asshit.
Once you break through hisshell he's like a good dude and
he, he, he was really.
He wanted good quality and Iget that.

(33:10):
That's what a lot of guys want.
They want good quality.
So he did Zoom.
It was my first Zoom interview,bro.
The quality was the worstquality I've ever had.
Editing was ridiculous.
I paid for some subscription.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
I don't even know.
Yeah, you're probably spendingtoo.
I'm going to be honest with you.
You're probably spending toomuch money because you don't
have to spend that much moneyhave to spend that much money.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
I found a home with stream yard, though, I think,
because lately stream yard this,what we're using right now has
just been easier for you guys,like when we have a guest, and
the quality is way better.
So, yeah, shout out to themlike I use?

Speaker 3 (33:42):
I use bazaar to make my pictures and then I use in
shot when I do my videos.
But what?
The one thing that I love doingwas when I get a big interview,
like when I got the the MarioBarrios interview back in 2022.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Oh, and after you say this, we're going to speak on
that.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
Okay, like I wanted.
I was like, damn, I got aninterview with Mario.
Mario has good footage onYouTube because he fought Tank.
He has all access Tank fightsRoley this week.
I was like I bet you I couldget him to say some good things
about his fight with Tank.
He has all access Tank fightsRoley this week.
I was like I bet you I couldget him to say some good things
about his fight with Tank and Ican make a video about it and

(34:19):
get people to see boxing the wayI see it, because it's like you
guys know, you love boxing, Ilove boxing.
Watching boxing to me is likeMarvel nerds when a big movie
comes out.
You're fucking excited for it.
Dude, Like it sends chillsthrough your body.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
So one thing real quick to interrupt you.
One thing that keeps me goingwith this podcast is that Willie
right here, am I right?
Has said to me he's like bro,you're making boxing interesting
, like you're, you're getting meinterested in these fights.
I never would have even beeninterested and like to me that
was like wow, this is worth it,because now he comes over and
now we're like motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
We'd be going, you know, We'd be all like nobody
even watching these guys, we'dbe like yo.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
this got me watching.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Wednesday night fights and shit.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Like what the fuck?
The other night your guy Fox,that fight, right, that was
gambling-wise.
In the middle of the fight youwere like, oh shit, wait a
minute.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
You start looking for the uppercommers.
You start looking for realtalent.
You'd be like yo, I'm watchingthis guy.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Finish what you were saying.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
Oh yeah, for sure, bro, especially when you can get
a good like when Troy Isley,the guy you just talked about,
when he fought javi martinez,yeah, you're like, oh shit, this
is two good prospects.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
they find each other in the amateurs bro like this is
now a sick fight jahai tuckerversus truck simpson, lorenzo
simpson.
The main market, the mainmarket doesn't know that.
But that's a crazy good fightand that, honestly, we're not.
We're going there, we're notgoing to jersey to see my paisan
italiano.
No, I'm team jihad.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
But you know truck is on um he be with tanking him.
I'm like yeah that's how I knewhim that's how I know I'm like
you know, that's how I knew whohe was, and I'm like he fell off
, though, bro.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
Yeah, he definitely fell off.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
He.
He fought somebody and itwasn't.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
It wasn't good I heard he fought vladimir
hernandez and lost bro yeah, itwasn't, it wasn't good.
Troy Isley beat the shit out ofVladimir.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
And let me tell you guys something.
So in my boxing maybe my boxingI have to look it up I forget.
No, troy is undefeated.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Yeah, but now that I'm thinking about it, I don't
think he beat the shit out ofVladimir.
I actually think his fight withVladimir was kind of tough.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
That's another thing.
We're naming names that theregular market wouldn't have any
idea, like pro athletes.
Think of that.
You think of baseball.
Right, you say a name, you knowthat, oh, that guy's a pro
athlete.
I heard that somewhere.
Boxing's the only sport whereyou say these names and the
regular world doesn't know.
But boxing fans are like, yeah,I heard that name somewhere
they only know the top few.
Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
And even then they might not.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
And I thought originally and this is props to
Turk in a sense I thought he wascoming in to do that.
I thought he was going to pushthis like yo, let's dump some
money into it, let's make itlike fucking.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
I think he's going to have the opportunity when he's
whatever that Grand Prix shit hewas supposed to be doing.
Yeah, that was great he didn'tdo it yet, right?

Speaker 2 (37:12):
No, no, that started, I think, the tournament, the
tournament, shit.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
It started already.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
I think that started.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
I thought that was his introduction like new
fighters and shit like that.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Nah, his was like the TKO shit.
He wanted the TKO shit, thatwas his thing.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
If he can do a Super 6.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Yeah, those are cool.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
Do it with 154.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Yeah.
That's a great weight class, hehas the money.
Dude, he has the money.
This is the thing I heard.
I spoke to a few ticket brokersand lower level promoters and
they all said he's not willingto work with them.
That's who, like they, have theheartbeat of.
You know what I mean?
Like the small towns, the guyshustling those tickets.

(37:57):
He, he doesn't want to workwith them.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
So, okay, you're not going to extend the sport then
he's just trying to controleverything you got to start
bringing.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
He's trying to control things like in boxing
he's he's getting people onfucking like the ring and shit
and it's bro.
Nobody outside of boxing isgoing to pay attention to it.
Get these guys on Shane Gillis'podcast, Get them on that
negative, get them on.
Rogan bro, Get them on thesethings.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
They're taking 10 steps back because now they're
going to sign with DAZN, andI've said this a million times.
It actually breaks my heart ina sense.
So I'm going to tell you aquick story.
One night sense like so.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
So I'm gonna tell you a quick story.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
One night I was out at the bar out here when joe
smith jr was like thriving and,um, who's the guy that broke his
jaw?
What the fuck is his name?
Barrera, yeah, barrera.
So barrera is fighting on tv.
Right, I'm at arugas and patchhog.
Right I'm out and I look over.
I'm like I was at my crazy ex,but she was cool because she ate
ass.
But I'm looking at and I'm likedamn, holy shit.
I'm like that's joe smith jrand barrera is fucking fighting.
So I'm the only one in theregoing wild and he's like a local

(38:59):
.
He's a local popular guy.
But I'm like yo, I go up to him, I google his tattoo and I'm
like are you joe smith jr?
He's like, yeah, that's me bro.
He was with his girl.
We sat at the bar and we'rejust talking boxing about, about
that and like that's what heneeds to do, though he needs to
get into that, that local market, and he won't because he's with
the zone.
When have you ever seen thezone on at a bar?

Speaker 3 (39:20):
no, never never, it's an app.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
It's a fucking app and you won't, and you won't,
you will ever see the zone butthat's all the sports issue.
Now everything is going to apps.
They got n got NBA games thisfootball game is going to be,
one on Amazon Prime, one onfucking Peacock.
Who the fuck?
Is going on.
Peacock, who got Peacock?
You got Peacock.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
I do because I have Peacock, just because it has
King of Queens.
I'm not even kidding, I'm noteven kidding.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
You know he's from Long Island, that guy Kevin
James.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
I heard he's, you know.
You know he's from long island,that guy, kevin james yeah, I
heard.
I heard his asshole too.
In person he might be.
He's a fucking celebrity.
They're all kind of dickheads,bro.
Dickheads are pedophiles orboth yeah, shit, yeah, whatever
the king of queens is myfavorite show of all time.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Dude, I'm not even really that's a good like, like
I've seen every episode, like,if you want to get into autism,
i'll'll watch that show.
I'll be saying the lines beforethey say it.
We don't want to get into that.
I do like that.
He's a UPS worker, though, butthis is a boxing podcast, so

(40:26):
we're going to stick to boxingAgain.
For those listening on theradio.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
This is part of the regular show.
That's how we do it.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
We just be going off regular show.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
That's how we do it.
We just be going off Differentshit.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
That's what it does, though, but what were we talking
about?

Speaker 3 (40:45):
Who did I say we were going to get into?

Speaker 2 (40:47):
There's a lot.
Oh, probably Mario.
Yeah, oh, you never let mefinish, sorry, sorry, go ahead,
go ahead Autism, autism.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
So what I wanted to do is I wanted to make like a
movie trailer type video.
So I got sound bites from him.
I found this music that waslike Aztec war drum music,
because that's what he walks outto.
And it was him like talkingabout the tank fight when tank
dropped him and he's like oneminute he's in front of me, the
next minute he's not, and like Imade the screen go black and

(41:12):
then he comes back.
He's like the crowd's's infront of me, the next minute
he's not, and I made the screengo black and then it comes back.
He's like the crowd's goingwild and I cut from the video to
the actual broadcast and it'sMauro Ranallo yelling like and
take Davis Flores Barrios.
And then it cuts back to thevideo and it's just a sick video
.
And that video took me fivehours to make and it's only two

(41:40):
and a half minutes long.
And then I did it again when Iinterviewed tony harrison.
Yeah, and he was calling forthe trilogy against, uh, charlo.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
So I made a sick ass video for that and he actually
posted it and it got a lot ofviews seven hours to me, from
your phone too.
You did it all from your phone,right?

Speaker 3 (41:46):
yeah, I did it all from my phone crazy but they're
fucking I, I love me.
I got to make one for andredurell.
I got to make one for ChonZapata.
It was my favorite thing to do,but it took fucking time.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
You have to love that bitch bro I tried it a million
times, bro, even making skits,bro them shit's tasty.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
I don't have a job, bro.
I get money off of my GI billto go to school.
I'm the social media directorfor Adams Boxing Shoes and I
recruit fighters for them, and Irecruit fighters for Thanks for
Playing.
I can literally do that rightnow as I'm doing this podcast.
I don't have to show up toanywhere.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
That's awesome, though, bro, I have a job right,
you live a good life.
I have a job and I get paiddecent for what I do, but, like
I would, the grass is alwaysgreener bro because I would just
love to have this basement andthat's it, and just just do that
man, like I was like like, sothe grass is always greener.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
I'm tired of waking up at 1 30 am.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Yeah, well, it really is I was working at lowe's for
like over a year and my shiftwas from 5 am to 2 pm every day.
Oh man and I going to schooland I was doing the podcast
Never slept, never sleep, neversleep.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
But Willie goes.
What time do you go in?
1 am 1.30 am 1.30 am and hedoes this, so I kind of.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Your shift is in like three hours.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
Yo, I'll, and not be doing all that he's got a kid,
he's a great father.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Yeah, that's a lot.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
For real bro.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
For real.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
But Willie.
So Willie was into boxing.
I met him at the gym but hewasn't like a nerd, like me, I'm
not a boxing nerd at all.
But I met him whenever we're atthe gym.
He's like yo, you should starta podcast.
All you do is talk boxing.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
I like, yeah, you're right.
Every time he came in the gymwas just talking, talking, just
talk, especially about teo, ohmy god.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
Every time, oh my god all the time we just hitting
the bag teo this I'm like yo andthen yo.
This was like a predominantlyblack gym, so they'd be looking
at me like what?

Speaker 1 (43:44):
the fuck that shit used to be fun.
You used to open up the gym andjust parlay everybody I'm at at
the gym.
I just opened it up.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
I'm the same way I work out at Crunch here in Boise
.
I live in Boise, idaho, widestcity in America, and I, fucking,
I go to the gym, I go to Crunchbecause it's $15 a month.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Crunch is a good gym.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
And they have punching bags and I want the
punching bag and people watch mehit the bag they're like damn
bro do you fight?
And I'm like, no, I haven'tfought since 2016.
But yeah, they start talking tome about boxing and they're
like oh, like, like, I justdon't know any boxers and I'll,
I'll always be like dude, yougot to watch this guy and it's
always boots.
Yeah, that's true.
The first, the first highlightI always show him is the fucking

(44:26):
slow-mo shit.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Yeah, roy monvea like who the fuck does that shit,
bro.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
It's the sickest shit ever.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
So you should show them the highlight, though, of
Tio, with the behind the backpunch in the ring.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
Oh against what?

Speaker 2 (44:42):
the hell's his name, magdaleno.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Beat the fuck out of him Nah
yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
Or even the one, what about the one?
Where he jumps up and like, ohyeah, even the one.
What about the one?

Speaker 2 (44:54):
where he jumps up, oh yeah, even the slow motion.
His last knockout With thefucking Superman punch I don't
even know, I don't even think hemeant to do that when he like
blocked it with a punch when helike punched it, oh against
Tampa.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Yeah, he like punched it out of the way.
I like how he'd be bringingback the old school shit.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
Yeah, the old school guard, oh, the cross guard yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
So back to what we started with right, if he has a
shot, if TO has any shot andthis is in my opinion and I'm
not giving him a shot but if hehas any shot, he needs to bring
in another trainer, a head, likea legit trainer, not just his
pops, and he needs to do a fullcamp, like just like he did for

(45:36):
Loma, like a real camp.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
I don't think he will though.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Nah, I think he's too , and this is another thing with
boxing.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
he's too rich, he's too rich, he thinks he's too
famous.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
I love the social media shit that he's doing.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Yeah, that was smart, though, my son.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
Roley was on a stream with Aiden Ross.
Roley's on a stream Roley iswild.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Roley actually, so Roley's another one.
I called that last fight I did.
I was like if anyone's gonnamake the upset, it's gonna be
Roley, and Roley in person Isexactly what you see, though,
like he's not faking, he's not,he is who he is, and I love that
about him, because when we methim I think I told you this when

(46:23):
I was in my drunk stupor, but Iwas like, I said something
about feet, because I know hehas a foot fetish and Rolly goes
, and Roley goes what In frontof everybody, bro.
He's like what Y'all don't sucktoes.
It was mad funny.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
I like Roley because he's from Vegas, bro.
Yeah, that too.
We don't have a lot of fightersfrom Vegas.
Most fighters move there, butRoley's actually.
Roley grew up a fewneighborhoods away from where I
lived in Vegas, so I fuck withRoley.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
So who is your favorite fighter man?
So I fuck with Rowling.
So who is your favorite fighter?
Boots.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
Man like if I had to pick.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Like number one.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
Of all time, or like right now.
Right now active man see, Ilove caleb plant, I love boots
we can talk about that too.
I love shakur.
Yeah, we could talk about that,because I'm gonna piss pbc fans
off too, even though caleb's myboy.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Hold on, we'll stay on track.
So who's your favorite?
Who is your?

Speaker 1 (47:18):
beard out.
You look, probably look likehim, actually I know my hair is
thinning like him.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
I love Taylor Plant.
I love Boots.
I love Shakur Mario Barrios,obviously just because of how
fucking cool he was to me and Ilove watching him fight.
He's never in a boring fight,fuck man, I don't know.
You know what's easier for meto tell you and I actually get
just a slight digression.
I'll tell you my top fivefavorite fighters of all time,

(47:46):
because I get laughed at for it.
Number one is Andre Ward.
Number two because everybodyhas a favorite fighter that's
not from their era, a guy whodidn't fight during your
lifetime.
Mine is Sugar Ray Leonard.
Eris Landy Laura oh God,everything was good.

(48:14):
I love, I fucking love erislandy laura.
Bro, he can box.
Can I ask why I just do this?
I?

Speaker 2 (48:20):
love boxers I like.
So do you love loma chaco,though I?

Speaker 3 (48:22):
do?
I do like I do love loma chaco,but I wouldn't say he's one of
my favorites of all time.
I love slick boxers.
I love people with greatdefense, great footwork, great
jab, great straights, and he hadall of that.
I love Kell Brook.
Kell Brook is in my top five ofall time, even though he's not
a mover like that.
I just love Kell Brook andnumber five is probably Caleb

(48:44):
Plant.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Why Caleb, other than because he's white?

Speaker 3 (48:48):
It's not just because he's white I'm joking, I'm not
going to lie to you.
That's a part of it.
It's because he's a white boxer.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
He's definitely a boxer.
Caleb's black.
Caleb Plant is black he wasbeating up black people in the
hood.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
You know what I compare it to, though.
You know how black footballfans love black quarter.
You know what I compare it to,though, like you guys, uh, like
you know how, like um, likeblack football fans like love
black quarterbacks when they'relike legit quarterbacks.
Yeah, back in the day used tobe like, oh, they're not smart
enough to play quarterback.
That's what a lot of peoplewould say, like oh, or they're
just runners, they're not realquarterbacks.
And then now you have guys likelamar, who is a runner but a

(49:24):
great quarterback.
Cj stroud even though I fuckinghate the Texans and I hope
their plane crashes, but he's agreat passing quarterback.
Like black football fans loveto see that because it's finally
like, yeah, we have realquarterbacks, you know.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
Yeah, they taking over.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
They taking over.
Yeah, most of the topquarterbacks in the NFL are
black right now, and that's not,you know, like, yeah, you have
Burrow, but like Mahomes, JalenHurts, CJ Lamar, they're all
black.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Who's blacker, Caleb or Mahomes?

Speaker 3 (49:55):
Caleb.
Bro, who's got the black wife?
Patrick Mahomes, caleb.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
That's true.
Yeah, yeah, nah, I'm justfucking for sure.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
That's how I feel about Caleb, though, because
he's a legit boxer, yeah he'sslick.
When you have a white Americanboxer, what's the first thing
people always say about him?
Like, oh, he's tough.
Like bro, you're just sayinghe's good at getting his ass
beat.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
One thing I like about Caleb that really draw me
on to him was that he's a man ofhis word.
Like when he slapped charlo, hesaid he was talking about my
fucking family.
So I pressed him like, likehe's all, always a man of his
word.
He's a family first and he isfrom like he was from, like a
trailer park you see that in thehood like so he was in eight
miles and I love, I love shitlike that, like like me, eight

(50:43):
miles like our friend, like theheavyweight Lorenzo Medina, he's
from that Florida.
Rough fucking different life,different life but about it.
I like when they're about it.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
I like that we have.
Algieri was a good boxer forwhite guys, but he wasn't a
great fighter.
Caleb's a legit, really goodfighter and he'll fight anybody.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
His resume shows that so actually our friend his
resume is our friend, uh when,when he fought um durell or
whatever and he's like I'llnever let a white guy knock me
out or whatever.
And then he said, like I neversaid that a guy we interviewed,
local guy david sparks, hooddude, he's pretty popular on
social media too, pro fighter hesparred with.

(51:27):
I've interviewed him a fewtimes, you've probably seen my
stuff.
But he said he goes, he's theone that Darrell was like yo,
I'll give anyone five or 10grand.
Whatever it was drill, I'llgive anyone five or 10 grand if
they say who, if they prove.
I said that I never said thathe posted it.
It's a black dude, david Sparks.
He never paid him, man, andrenever paid his ass.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
No, he legit said it too.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
I remember it too.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
It didn't even piss me off.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
That shit just pissed me off.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
No, not at all Devin said some shit like that too,
right yeah he said some shitlike that too.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Let's talk as we get into.
What are we on like an hour now.
Whatever, let's talk.
Let's talk about devin haney.
Real quick, me and you talkedabout.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
All right, you want to go back to the thing in that
pbc card.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Yeah, yeah yeah, actually can I'm?
I have to piss because I'mboozing yeah um, let me piss.
We'll take a break play somemusic I think we have, we have
four.
We have four viewers.
Hi viewers say something.
Viewers text us ask us aquestion.
This is punchlines boxing theman that's pissed off your whole
family on thanksgiving.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
The man that posts whatever's on his mind, doesn't
give a fuck been canceled, don'tcare, he's here I get called
racist all the time no, stupidwow no, but here's the thing,
though they think I'm adifferent race when they call me
that, like when I, like you cango piss.
Boom, I'll tell you I'll fillwillie in like, when I talk shit

(52:57):
about mexican fighters andthey're fighting a black guy,
they're like y'all blackmotherfuckers are all the same.
And I'll be like, hey, youbetter not be talking shit about
the color of my skin, bro.
Bro, we'll have real problems.
And like, I post it to my storyall the time.
And then, you know, when I talkshit about black fighters, like
they're like oh, like, you justhate black fighters.
I'm like how are you going tocall me a boxing fan and hate

(53:18):
black fighters?
Yeah, that is crazy, especiallywhen most of my favorite
fighters are black.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
I mean, that's the craziest thing.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
The whole sport is damn near black, black or
Mexican or British, and peoplethink this is what fucking kills
me, bro.
People think that just becausea British fighter is white, I'm
going to fuck with them.
It's like, bro, I don't fuckwith white Americans, we don't
give a fuck about British peopleAt all.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
We don't know what they got going on over there.
Nobody watch those fights overthere, unless somebody's going
over there and taking theirbelts.
Or if it's like a really bigfight like the Ben-Eubank fight.
The Ben and Eubanks fight wascrazy.
Yeah, that was a great fight.
That was a great fight.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
So like I didn't care about it that much because I
always thought it was a stupidmatchup, yeah, just based off,
because the weight class yeahfor sure, and where they stood,
because it's like eubank isn'tgoing to be.
I don't think he's ever goingto be a world champion, unless
they give him, like, some easymatchup this guy just fell into
the damn table just now and Ithought ben should have been

(54:24):
fighting people in his ownweight class, yeah, you know,
like top fighters.
I was like the only reason thisfight makes somewhat of a sense
is because of the history withtheir deaths.
So I was like I really don'tgive a shit about this fight
that much.
But I put it on and I listenedto it while I, like, mowed the
lawn and like Yo, he's, no, no,he's just listening to the fight

(54:47):
, he's not even watching it yeah, I well, I would stop to watch
it.
And it's like twice when Istopped to watch it, ben rocked
eubank.
I was like, oh yeah, like oneof them was like in the second
or third round and he likebuckled eubank's knees a little
bit and uh, so it's like Ididn't like sit down and like
watch the fight.
So I kind of regret that, butit's whatever was you hoping?

(55:10):
you was hoping ben to win,though I wanted ben to win
because I I thought my thoughtwas that if he won he'd go back
to 147 and I want him to fightboots, bro, I really want that
fight to happen.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
That's a good fight, that's a that's a good uh money
fight right there that's, andthey're both on match, they're
both under match room this guytrying to get me drunk.
I got to go work in a littlebit.
I know I'm all out of alcoholI'm pissed, that's a fact.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
All door there are some fucking long drinks right
now I'm back.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
What time?

Speaker 2 (55:44):
is it over there?

Speaker 3 (55:46):
8.43.
God damn, what are you guystalking about?
I'm back.
What time is it?

Speaker 2 (55:48):
over there 8.43.
God damn, what are you guystalking about?
I'm back.
We'll do like I don't know.
30, 40 minutes.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
Fuck it.
I'm going to order some drinksthen.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Hey, yo Live on the YouTube Sparring.
Yeah, man Getting tipsy.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
You got to figure out how to get the chat on there,
or something like that.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
I have the chat on there or something like that.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
I know I have the chat but we don't got any
followers yet.
It's all right, it's new, I'mgonna keep doing this.
Yo, you want to be a regular,me you?
Yeah, all right, I'm for suredown.
I need, I don't have.
I don't have the infrastructurein this new house, because I
lived in a different house whenI did my podcast back in the day
and I had, like I have, like mypernell whitaker trucks behind
me and my Damian Lillard jerseyand all that shit.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
How do you feel about Dane being on the Bucs?

Speaker 3 (56:34):
It hurt but I got it.
He was never going to win withus.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
I like that.
He's a boxing fan, bro, I lovethat he's a boxing fan.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
Yeah, that's cool, and I was a Blazers fan before
that, so I was already a fan ofhim, but when I found out how
big of a boxing fan he was, Iloved it.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
What are you ordering ?

Speaker 3 (56:55):
I'm just curious Long drink.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
What's that?
What the hell is that?

Speaker 3 (57:01):
It's like a Finnish drink.
They taste kind of like squirt,but they're like 12%.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Oh man Like squirt.
Never mind, I was going to getreal weird, bro, you know what
squirt tastes like.
I do.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
It tastes like aspirin, bro.
It tastes like cocaine thatdrips into your throat.
That's what it tastes like.
So, listeners, if you are avirgin, take an aspirin, yeah,
and you know what, anybody whotalks shit about like everybody
always talks shit about oscar dela joya doing cocaine no, no
bitch, have you ever donecocaine?

Speaker 2 (57:35):
have you?
Have you ever have you, haveyou ever spoke to a fighter,
though?
A fighter like behind thescenes, what he does off, off
duty, what does a fighter do?

Speaker 3 (57:45):
if you're talking shit about cocaine, you've
either never done it, fuckingnerd, or you've done so much of
it that you're telling otherpeople not to do it.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
So I, I, you gotta have fun I'm not anti-cocaine
but I can honestly say I'venever done it, but only because
I.
I know I've had it in my familyclose to me.
I probably was born on it, yeahsame.
And I know my personality withthe way I drink.
Bro, alcohol to me is cocaine.
So if I you never see me at afight, man, we got to next time.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
This guy is crazy.
When are you coming to New York, man?
I don't know, not anytime soon,unless I get tickets to that
Shakur fight.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Can you get to Vegas?
Is Vegas better for you?

Speaker 3 (58:24):
Oh yeah, I'm probably moving there.
Yeah, that's.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
Moving back there Talking about cocaine, here's
the thing Every time I've donecocaine.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
I never partied after I did cocaine and then played
video games.
I'm serious, I did a line ofcoke and then fucking wrecked
shop.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
I was like 16, right, and we was in Jamaica and I
found out my dad did cocaine inJamaica.
So I'm like, yeah, he ordersthe cocaine.
His dad is.
But my dad used to run withrocks like this.
He used to have a whole crew.
He used to run the whole shit.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
I didn't know none of this For those listeners, this
is a PG podcast.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Yo, back in the day I did not know, my dad used to
run this whole block, albanyAvenue.
What Used to run the whole?
Shit he still runs the blockman.
I met his dad.
Yo, this guy is crazy.
Everybody know Worm man.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
Yo, his nickname is Worm Like Worm, Big Worm.
What up Big Perm.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
That was before the movie out.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
That shit, damn man nah but you know, back back then
, like your, your dad's age,your parents age, my parents age
, cocaine was like weed he wasstill doing that shit, I guess,
until he's late came off.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
He probably still, but I really never did I.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
I never did cocaine because I was like I know I've
seen my parents, I'm like I knowif I touch this stuff I'm gonna
be hooked bad.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
So yeah, I, I I only do it when my friend has it,
because it's like I'm not if Istart getting a hold of it like
I know how I am I'll go, I'll goand I'll buy a whole ounce of
weed and the shit will be gonein a week I've never even liked
weed.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
I mean, I've smoked weed obviously it would make me
sleep like'm like I don't wantto go to bed.
But alcohol to me, I thinkbecause my mom was always drunk
and high when I was in herstomach.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
I'm telling you, I got cocaine in my body.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Me too, man.
That's why we're friends, man.
Yeah, cocaine, bro, Alrightanyway, Yo one more cocaine
story.
What?

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
the fuck did he turn into?
My pops used to drive a garbagetruck on cocaine.
I used to go up to your dad'sour biggest fan.
I used to go to the goddamntruck and I'd see the white shit
on his nose.
I'd be like yo, you got toclean that shit up, bro.
You over here driving around InNew York, yeah, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
You know how crazy you have to be to do cocaine in
new york traffic bro just likeyo we sitting here driving the
truck.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
One time we's driving the back of the truck.
Next thing you know it's a bighump, boom.
I'm on the back of the truckholding it all like this almost
fell off the damn truck.
I'm like yo, you gotta slowdown like you're wilding.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
But you know I could tell you, I could tell some
stories, but that's for adifferent podcast.
If you start a differentpodcast not boxing related we
can tell stories on that one.
What were we talking about,though?
Boxing related.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
So we got the PBC card coming up.
We got the Fulgham fight comingup.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
What we said?
Beck Beck, the bully's fighting.

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
Yeah, I think Beck fucks him up.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Yeah, but Beck is one of those dudes.
That's exciting because youknow he can get knocked out.
He just needs a little step upin competition.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
But you also know, he can knock people out.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Yeah, yeah, he's coming, he's coming.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
And I hope Fogum's doing sit-ups, bro, because his
body is going to get lit thefuck up.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Kind of like he reminds me of your boy Fox right
In a sense, where Fox lookedgood but there was nothing on
his punches.
There was nothing on hispunches you talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
Fogum or Beck.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
Fogum.
Okay, fogum kind of reminds mea little bit of like not
obviously not not as tall as Fox, but he reminds me of him in a
sense, just because that was arecent fight, that his punches
have no zip on them, there's nopop on them.
But Beck the Bully man.
You've seen Beck the Bully.
Right, willie don't got hislaptop.
I can't tell him to look it upreal quick.
This dude is a monster.

(01:02:23):
Yeah, I think he's got the bestbody work in boxing.
He's coming for your soul, he'snot, and he has been knocked
out.
That was a flash knockout.
Props to Gabe Rosado.
That was awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
Since then he's been on a tear and before Dude, he
was going to fight Kovalev whenhe only had six fights, that's
crazy Alcohol Kovalev.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
He only had six fights.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
That's crazy alcohol kovalev, though alcoholic
kovalev still, he had six fightsand kovalev tested positive for
that synthetic testosteroneshit, yeah can you was like I
don't care, can I still fighthim like?

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
that's a bad motherfucker yeah that is bad,
can I?
Can I?

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
ask you something a little off topic, but since you
said you're, you're one of yourfavorite fighters.
Is Andre Ward speaking ofKovalev?

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
He lost the first fight.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Okay, that was a test and you passed Punchlines
boxing keeps it real.
I stand by that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
And I've rewatched it , wanting to give Andre rounds,
and I can't, especially with theknockdown in the second round,
I still don't think he won thatfight.
Now, the second fight, thesecond.
A lot of people like to say hewas hitting below the belt, even
though kovalev's his trunkswere like.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
The rule is if listen to this, listen to this, listen
to this because your bellybutton is showing on the belt is
illegal.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
If they're above your belly button, like your belly
button's not showing, then thebelt line illegal.
If they're above your bellybutton, like your belly button's
not showing, then the belt lineis legal.
And his shit was above hisbelly button and those punches
were on the belt line.
Those were legal punches.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
So, dubois, that punch for Usyk?
Was it legal or?

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
not, he's a big Dubois guy.
I thought that was a legal shot.
It was legal, legal, so in realtime.
I thought that was a legal shot.
It was legal, legal, I think so.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
So in real time, though, in real time as a
referee watching that.
That's hard to dictate, though.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
It was that close.
They got a replay?
I think no.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
I don't think they did, I don't know where they at.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
Yeah, and I'd have to watch the replay to see where
the ref was standing, to seewhat his vantage point was.
But when they showed the replayto me it looked like a legal
shot In the replay yes, itdepends where you're at.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Who can have instant replay?
I think with California.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
There was no instant replay on that one.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
Wherever they was at.
They don't got instant replay.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
My whole thing is too I don't know what the rule in
boxing is, because it changes byathletic commission.
I think that's is too, causeI've, I know, in the.
I don't know what the rule inboxing is Cause it changes by
athletic commission, which is.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
I think that's stupid too.
That's stupid yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
But I know, like in the UFC, when an illegal shot
like that happens and theystopped to review it, then the
fight is automatically over.
Oh, that's, yeah, that makessense that actually that
happened with one of your LongIsland guys, with Chris Weidman.
Oh okay, he fought I can'tremember the guy's name, he was

(01:05:13):
a good fighter, but he foughthim and he got in need and they
were like, oh, but his hand wasdown.
So then they reviewed it andhis hand wasn't down and it was
an automatic TKO.
For the other guy, gegardMousasi that's who it was an
automatic TKO for the other guy,gay guard.
Musashi.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
That's who it was.
I don't know.
I don't know the name, but I doknow.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
I do know why.
So if they stopped the fight toreview it and then it clears
that it was a good hit is over.

Speaker 3 (01:05:38):
Well, either way, the fight was going to be over.
It was either going to be a nocontest the DQ or contest a dq,
or or a tko.
And it ended up being a tkobecause it was a legal shot.
You think they should do thatin boxing, or I don't think they
should stop the fight for that,but I think, I think.
I think, if like uh, you knowwhat, you know what I for the
navarrete, fight right I thinkthey should have been able to do

(01:06:00):
that shit.
No, why that was horrible?
Why that?

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
was no.
Why could tim bradley see itand we could see it, but they
can't?

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
That's what I'm saying, that was fucked up and
they got instant replay for thatone.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
They had instant replay.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
The refs could have got that right, yeah, but we all
saw it right, while they'restill negotiating.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
I don't understand.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
I talked shit after that fight and everybody was
like Navarrete should have wonbecause he was up on the
scorecards, like that was theright.
No, decision.
I thought it was the rightdecision.
If it was a headbutt at thetime, yeah.
If it was a headbutt and wentto technical decision, then,
yeah, the right guy won.
The problem is it wasn't aheadbutt.
And if you're gonna stop thefight because of the cut and the

(01:06:45):
cut came from a punch then itshould have been a TKO win for
Suarez.
That per the rules.
Like you, can't have it bothways?

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
So you know, I have something to say and I'm going
to single out a single fan baseand I'm going to get shit for
this and I don't care, and I'mgoing to chop it up and repost
it because I don't care, becauseI am a Tiafemo Lopez Tio sexual
, the Latino fan base man.
You got to stop being so biased.
Can I just say that All theLatinos stop being so biased

(01:07:16):
Like what you just said, likewhat you just said when you
started the convo with Tio.
It's okay.
Like it's a sport.
It's a fucking sport.
The Yankees lost the worldseries.
Right?
I'm a Yankee fan.
We sucked.
La fucking beat us, thosescumbags.
We lost yeah, we lost the worldseries to fucking LA shit.
And we have and we have, we havethe best fucking player in

(01:07:39):
baseball.
We lost the fucking worldseries.
Right, I'm still a Yankee fan,but I could admit that.
And like Latino boxing fans,right, Like it's okay.
Like when Tio may or may nothave said a certain word, I was
getting DM'd and I'm like yoguys, it's not okay, Even if it
was close to that.
Like it's not okay.

(01:07:59):
Whatever he meant, it was notokay, it's fucking crazy bro.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
I kind of I kind of fucked up after that too and I
felt bad because I had fightersreach out to me.
But after that whole thing,when he said liquor and
everything.
And then he he posted thatpicture of him fighting barbosa
and like taunting barbosa.
I commented.
I was like let a liquor know.
And it was like not me beingpro teo in that moment it's me

(01:08:25):
trolling him yeah, like saying aquote knowing he didn't say
liquor, and then he pinned itand then you know a few black
fighters that we all knowreached out to me and was like
yo, like what's up with that?
I was like brah, I was likefucking around, like I wasn't
like egging him on or nothing.

(01:08:46):
Yo and I felt bad because theyfelt that way and I was like,
bro, I didn't want to make youguys feel that way, like if you
look like I don't even followteo on instagram, like I don't,
and but obviously I'm not a hugefan of the guy but, this world
is too soft yeah, and

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
you should be able to troll somebody we talked about
it and I know the fightersyou're talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
I think they didn't think I was trolling him.
They thought I was like egginghim on.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
But they should know your account bro.

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
And he probably thought you was egging him on
too.
That's the crazy part.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
No, I think he knew Bro, I fucking texted him
straight up Like we chat.
So I texted him straight up andI was like I said I was like
bro, I don't think you said he'slike well, contrary to what you
think, I said liquor.
I think in his head he meantthat he meant the alcohol liquor
.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
But I don't think.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
I don't even think that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
I think he knows what he said and he's trying to
cover it up, and like a lot ofliars, do.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
I don't know, though do because I but he keeps it
real low, like with shit likethat.
He's never not like you knowwhat I mean, like a pr nightmare
, like yeah, but what has hedone?
That isn't a pr nightmare.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
There's pr nightmares , right like there's shit that's
bad for pr, and then saying thehard r that's suicide, that's
like, that's fucking.
9-11, 9-11 that's like thethird worst thing you can do.
The only thing that's worsethan that is talking shit about
fucking the LGBTQ community andtalking shit about Jews, because
that's the only time blackpeople lose is when they talk

(01:10:14):
shit about either of those two.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
That's what got Dave.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
Chappelle almost kicked off on Netflix.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
That's what got Kyrie Anyway we interrupt this with a
commercial break.
Don't get me started I told you, I warned you prior.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
RIP JFK Boxing we're sticking to boxing.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
Boxing is a foreign agent, they are just kidding.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
If you want to sponsor us we are pro everybody.
Everything is coming to lightanyway.
Now Stop it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
We're talking boxing.
The noticing is real.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
Yes, the noticing of Tiafemo saying liquor or not is
real yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
That was a good one.
I caught it, I caught it, Icaught it.
Hey, that's a good host.
That's a good one.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
Going forward, boxing related.
I wonder where really we havethree viewers, though that's
pretty cool.
One of them is me, two of themare not me dude two of them just
say something yeah yo, ifyou're viewing, say, is it you
willie?

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
are you?
No, I'm not viewing are youviewing?

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
no if you're viewing, say something, ask us a
question.
We're new to this uh, youtubeshit, but we're gonna push it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
I'm gonna push it hard.
You want me to piss off the pbfans?

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
Yeah, go ahead.
By the way, for my radiolisteners that made it this far
you probably didn't, there'slike 15 of you, but we're
working.
We're never going to give up.
Actually, can you do likeWillie?
Hold on, let's have arevelation here.
Sunday nights, or Monday nights, steady Sunday nights.
Can you do Sunday nights,steady?

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
For the most part, definitely Sunday.
Can you do Sunday nights steadyFor the most part?
Yeah, If I can't, I'll let youknow.
Okay, football season is goingto be hard.
Yeah, yeah, that's tough,that's the only sport I watch as
religiously as boxing, it'sfootball.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
Well, I don't, because I'm a Jet fan, but
you're a Jaguar fan.
Props to you.
Props to you.
What's?

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
the drink you ordered .
What's the idaho drink?
It's.
It's not an idaho drink like Iused to long drink.
What the fuck is long drink?

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
I started drinking that I started drinking it when
I lived in jersey.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
For real bro, I've been I.
There's one thing I'm good atand that's drinking, and I've
never heard of a long drink I'llsend you a pic of it.
You can probably find out thegas you think they'll sponsor us
pick of it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
You can probably find it at the gas.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
You think they'll sponsor us I'll drink long
drinks all night if they sponsorus.
What is it like a?
You said it's like a mixeddrink like a.
No, it's like a, it's a beer Idon't know.

Speaker 3 (01:12:41):
It's like a white claw, but like with more alcohol
in it, and it doesn't taste asshitty.

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
The.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Trulies are pretty.
That Trulie's pretty good,right?
Yeah, it's pretty good.
I'm drinking tequila becauseI'm retarded.
I love tequila.

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
I just try not to drink liquors, like I said,
alcohol's an upper for me, andhere I am, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
we gotta go to a fight though.
Me, you and go to a fight,though I want to go me you will
be funny as hell.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
Maybe I'll I'll rip, that'd be funny.
That'd be funny.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
That'd be a good time um, I get wild, though, just
you show somebody who I made ameme about sees me who any of it
?

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
what do you mean?

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
any of them no for for the radio listeners.
There is some that make it thisfar.
There is there is uh followpunchlines, underscore boxing.
He doesn't need more followers.
That's from the heart.
He is funny as fuck doesn't.

Speaker 3 (01:13:35):
They're not gonna be able to find me if they don't
follow me.
They're not gonna be able tofind me if they search me,
because I'm shadow banned rightnow are you still shadow?

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
yeah speak on that real quick.
We'll take a little interludeaway from boxing.
What or is that interlude?
Is that the right word, I don'tknow?
Just a break from boxing.
Speak on shadow bands, likewhat happens.
I haven't been shadow banned, Idon't want to be, and hopefully
aligning myself with youdoesn't get me shadow banned,
your shit doesn't show up in theexplore page.

Speaker 3 (01:14:02):
It doesn't show up and recommended um.
People who don't follow youcan't find you like.
How do you?
How do you know?

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
if you're shadowban, though it lets you know and it
tells you.

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
You can see your account status and it'll tell
you like I can't go live, Ican't show up and recommend it,
all of that did you start?

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
did you start on instagram?
Yeah, that's like my, I'mpretty much now.

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
I'm only instagram I don't like, I have a youtube
account but I haven't uploadedin like a year.
Uh, I never post on facebookbecause facebook boxing groups
are, yeah, literal cancer theworst.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
That's why I fired our last co-host.
My last co-host.
We get all his information.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
It's like, like facebook boxing I look at him.
I'd be like, okay, that I'dcall race fans, the race fans,
like on every side, like peoplewho root for fighters purely
based off of their race, are allon facebook.
Yeah, all, and reddit andreddit.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
I don't go on reddit, yeah I got reddit's great for
porn, though oh, I don't, Idon't watch what hey no better
than you know.
Twitter is better, oh no,twitter and reddit are in like
cahoots with porn.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
I don't watch porn anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
Yeah, okay, you drink long.

Speaker 3 (01:15:11):
No, I'm serious, I quit watching porn.
Never mind, because I'm goingto get you in trouble if I say
why I don't watch porn anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
Tell me off the record If you're listening and
we get our two listeners tocomment.
Hey, two listeners.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
The two listeners to comment.
Two listeners.
The two listeners Google, whoruns 90% of the porn industry
and where they send money to.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
And then you'll see why.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
All right, all right, all right, I guess, Fucking
guys.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
California.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
He hates California.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
He hates.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
California.
I got Google listening.
No, you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
God damn it.
This is not a political podcastI like this shit.
Yeah, I know you would.
I, I want him.

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
We were talking the other night and I'm like yeah,
willie willie's like all rightanyway uh, yeah, so, because
remember it was the meme Iposted.
I was like, uh, turkey towilliam skull after that
bullshit fight and it's thatmuslim dude like beheading the
guy.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
Yeah, that was that was I knew I being in
ex-military right, part of myjob right and I'm gonna give a
little insight on my life wasyou know what?
Do you know what sipper net is?
No?
oh yeah I do so it's like thetop secret, like internet.
It's basically the, the wirethat connects to the internet.
It's that, but top secret, andit's red.

(01:16:27):
So part of my job was like Ihad to like go through all these
files and make these powerpoints that would go to generals
.
Generals are like top dog, um,and I would see all those videos
, right, like all of them, andlike one or two would leak like
a month right.
Yeah, there were thousands ofbeheading videos and you posted

(01:16:47):
that, bro.
It gave me like PTSD bro.
It brought me right back.
I was like, oh my God, hereally posted that here's the
thing In the real video.
Explain to Willie what youposted and the listeners.

Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
So it was turkey to skull after that fight.
And then it's a guy like aMuslim guy standing there and he
a skull after that fight.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
and then it's a guy like a muslim guy standing there
and he's going like this andyou just hear a guy screaming.
In the real video, the camerapans down and he's just brushing
the guy's teeth.
Okay, well you, you got me.

Speaker 3 (01:17:17):
You got me, you caught me because I was like and
I have used that video beforefor a meme and nothing happened.
It's still on my account, butthat one got removed and it got
me shadow banned.
It was turkey.
Yeah, here's the other thing,though.
Every time I start to get abunch of views on videos like I
get a few videos with a bunch ofviews I always get flagged for

(01:17:39):
something.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
It happens every time you know how, you know what.
What caught my attentionspeaking with other like
podcasters, like there's theguys at four corners right, four
corners boxing.
They're out of new york oh theit's the main year, yeah, yeah
yeah, and they're good withtheir like monikers in person,
right?
So I I caught up with them andI was like yo, like first of all

(01:18:02):
, I was asking them like how doyou go to all these fights?
Like, because I'm I'm broke,like I'm here but I'm literally
like dead broke, and they werejust explaining to me what to do
, or whatever.
They were like yo, like youhave to buy the Instagram ads
and something hit me and I waslike, but I was like shit.
So if Instagram is monetizing,how you get into those

(01:18:23):
algorithms's?

Speaker 3 (01:18:27):
it's fake yeah, it's the pay to play shit but I don't
.
I don't sponsor none of my shit.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
I get a bunch like I.
I get natural views yeah, like,see, see, but you, you, you
have that comedic, you're,you're, you're like, yeah, like
you're in a congested marketyeah, I'm like I gotta, I gotta
play politics for lack of abetter term.

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
In order to differentiate yourself, you
either have to get big namefighters on or a lot, and do it
that way.
But for me, because again.
I got go viral, yeah well, whenI started off as a podcast, I
was getting no views on my shitever.

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
But then you got controversial.

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
Well, I started doing memes because I knew I was
funny and I looked at everybodywas either a podcast or a news
page or a highlights page wherepeople just reshare highlights
that other pages post.
They don't even make their owncontent.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
I see a lot of that too in this weird market yeah,
those pages get hundreds ofthousands of followers I will
never do that.
I will never do.

Speaker 3 (01:19:33):
I will never do that I don't understand how it's fun
to do that I really, unless yourwhole goal is to just get
viewers and then make a businessout of it.
But it's like I'm not driven todo something we need, you know
we.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
I think what we need right is like we need to wear
like a camera at the fights,because that's when, like bro, I
was gonna buy the.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
I'm not even gonna tell you, I can't tell.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
I can't tell, because once you say something that
everybody else is gonna whateveryeah, but um, we need like,
because at the fights, bro, like, like this energy, you get here
talking on the podcast.
Yeah, is legit what we are atthe fights, bro, like, like this
energy, you get here talking onthe podcast yeah.
Is legit what we are at thefights on steroids, like we're
going nuts, we're going bananasand like fighters have said that
.
So that feedback to me is likea win, just like when a fighter

(01:20:18):
repost your content, bring yourdog in.

Speaker 3 (01:20:23):
I don't even know what the fuck he's barking at.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
Hey, you good, you tired.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
Huh, I'm a'ight.

Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
Hey, come on, what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
I can't hear you, you came, yeah, did you hear that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, hey, whatup hey yo yo what up.

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
What kind of dog is that?
He's a chawini bro.
Bro, I got a chawini.
He's sleeping, though I swearto god I wish this little fucker
was sleeping.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
Yo, chawinis are mean , bro, and they're racist right,
william, your dog is racist, Iain't gonna lie.
He like me now, but Franklinain't mean he's just a puppy.

Speaker 3 (01:20:59):
He's sweet, but he's fucking annoying.

Speaker 1 (01:21:02):
What's his name?

Speaker 3 (01:21:02):
Franklin that's what his name was when they adopted
him.
What's your dog name, chuck?

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
Oh Chuck, I'm Chuck or some shit.

Speaker 2 (01:21:12):
Let's wrap it up in a minute.
Who knows what's going on.

Speaker 3 (01:21:15):
Well, fuck it, dude, let's keep talking.
I want a drink on here.
My shit ain't here yet.

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
Yo, when are we going to leave?

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
It's going to be me, lets you out.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
Whatever I'm down, we can keep talking bro, I don't
give a shit.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
I'm about to text Tia Fimo.
Right now I'm going to text hisnumber.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
Yeah right.

Speaker 3 (01:21:35):
Yeah, and then he's going to come in here and cuss
me out and shit.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
So it'll be funny.
It will be funny, but no, wecan keep it real, respectfully
real, real yeah, because Ididn't say anything bad about no
, no like like so okay, let's,let's get into that.
We'll make some shit to chop upand post out on reels at 140,
right at 140.
What go, dude, I gotta piss bad, all right go ahead, go ahead

(01:22:00):
oh I've been uh, I don't knowwho.
Who's your top five?
Willie, all time Boxing.
All time you don't even want toopen that I'll open it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
Yeah, you drink.
I'm not drinking that.
You want water, I want to sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
Sorry, Go bro.

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
You don't got to.
Yeah, I'm about to get up outof here.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
You know we're going to yap all night now All day.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
I'm going to say my peace and be out.
Who?
I got I don't know.
All right, I have genericpeople.
I feel like Tank is your guy.
He's not at my all-time, Idon't think he might be.

(01:22:45):
He might be like five.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
Who was it before Tank?

Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
It was always Floyd Floyd.
Yeah, I grew up on Floyd.

Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
That's a big Chihuahua, bro, that's a big dog
.

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
I always loved Ali.
For some reason.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
I like Holyfield for some reason.
You good, yeah, I like theHolyfield some reason.
You good, I like the Holyfield.

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
Yo, we're gonna Hold on so Floyd.
Hold on Willie's top five.

Speaker 3 (01:23:15):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
Floyd is definitely number one.
Ali, it was Tyson.
It was Tyson it was.
Let me see who else was fuckinga dog.
Who?
Who we talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:23:34):
oh shit, I think my drinks are here already.

Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
Damn, who else I got when he come back, I'll close
out the show alright, you allgonna restart yeah oh, you gotta
follow.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
you gotta stay live show with me.
You're all going to restart.
You got to follow.
You might as well stay live,sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
Willie has to work.
Willie is a hardworking man Forour listeners.
It is 11.11 pm, East Coast time.
Make a wish I'm on vacationfrom work, so I'm going to be up
all night chopping it up withhim.
We're going to try and getother people in this chat,
Willie bro, it was nice meetingyou bro.

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
Oh my God, Yo, I'm hollering at you.
Yeah, I'm going to follow you.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
You're Divine TV, right yeah yeah, yeah, you said
I got to show this lady my ID.

Speaker 3 (01:24:17):
Yeah, bro, you got it now.

Speaker 1 (01:24:22):
Yeah, I'll see you next week.

Speaker 3 (01:24:23):
Yeah, for sure, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
All right later.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
All right, we're closing it out.
It's just me, puma, will you goto bed?
I'm sorry, bro, I didn't expectto go that long.
Yeah, I've been.

Speaker 1 (01:24:32):
You good, that was good though, yeah, yeah.

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