SEASON 4- EPISODE 6- OH YOU WON A STELLAR? MORE THAN A BLACK MALE EDUCATOR!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, happy world. Welcome to the spill Podcast, your

(00:30):
favorite podcast. Meat, You're in your favorite podcast, host me,
your girl, Missus Willson. Pim pim pim bim.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
I'm gonna have some pilms one day for real, for real.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Listen, spillers. I'm super duper excited. I say that every episode.
I say this every episode, but y'all know me by
now fifty five episodes later. But I'm super duper excited
about this episode and my guest on this episode, we
have mister Robert Jones and the yes yes youself exactly yes.

(01:05):
Listen now, Spillers, I'm gonna give my rendition on how
I feel like we've connected. If I missed something or
skip something, robbery, you just correct me or up damn.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
So this is what I remember.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
A few years, a couple of years back, not even
long like two or three years, maybe we had a
mutual social media friend that would share some of his posts.
And so one day, one day she picked shared his
post and it was a gospel album. She was like, Hey,
my coworker came out with a gospel album.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
It's amazing. I think you all should download it.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
And so I saw her posted. I was like, y'all
know me. I love the Lord. Here here my cry baby,
and I love me a good gospel album.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
I need it in my life and I.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Just love it.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
So I was like, let me look. So I looked
at his page.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
I downloaded the gospel album and I followed him right,
So I listened to the gospel album. It's called Sounds
from Heaven. It's on all gospel platforms, all album platforms, anywhere,
title Apple out and we'll talk.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
About that in a second.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
But anyway, I downloaded the album. I was like, oh
my god, this is like super dope. And then I
realized she did say coworking he worked here.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Wait a minute.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
So I end up following him on social media social media, right,
sending him a friend request a little bit after that,
and I feel like he's been stuck with me.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Here we are, So.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Do you have anything different or no?

Speaker 3 (02:34):
No, I remember that and I do remember too. I
don't know. It was like a back to school event
that they had a mosaic, you know, we following each
other social media like I really love your music, and I.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Was like, I remember you, yes, And if everybody knows me,
especially my teacher friends Mosaic Templars, which is a black
museum here in Little ark, Arkansas. Every year they host
a back to School Teachers event. Because there are so
many back to school events for the kids, a few
years back, they started doing them for the teachers where

(03:09):
they celebrate us, give us good good gift bags full
of goodies, food, honey, happy hour, to clock that look clogging,
a happy hour, good drinks. I'm talking about grown people drinks,
happy hour, and just a good DJ, just good good vibe.
So yeah, I remember seen events. So listen. So we're

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here now. I feel like you're so kind and so
gentle and so sweet. We'll get into that too. But anyway,
spill as, you know what time it is. It's the
time of the episode where we do our self love,
self awareness, mental check while you are checking in with yourself,
y'all know, spillers, I encourage y'all to do this every episode.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
I want you all to be real.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
I want you to be intentional about your mental check
because you know you better.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Than anyone else.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
You know, it's easy for us to kind of put
up a facade, you know, cover up what's really going on.
And I sometimes I feel like that's okay to a
certain extent, because everybody should know when we're going through
something or when you know the struggle is real, real,
you know, so stop what you're doing. Spiller's pause for
the cost, connect with your emotions, Identify with your feelings,

(04:24):
be intentional about doing it, and express how you're feeling
using any emotional word. So, Robert, every time somebody comes
into the podcast room as a self mental health awareness advocate,
I feel like I'm holding people accountable with making sure

(04:45):
that they're checking in with themselves mentally. So I have
to ask you, how are you doing mentally? And I
do this because years ago I had some issues that
I didn't know where they were stemming from. While I
was feeling the way I was feeling, and I knew
it wasn't normal, and so I said, hey, I spoke
with my mama about it. I was praying about it,

(05:05):
and I was like, listen the Lord, I'm like myda.
He ain't moving fast. He needed to get I needed
to get got. He was taking his time with what
I felt, what I was dealing with, and he wasn't
taking his time. That was just him telling me, you
need to go see a therapist, you know, Proverbs talks
about wise counsel us seeking wise counsel, and I took
advantage of that opportunity after speaking with my mom, and

(05:28):
so I have a therapist. I do that now I
have a professional therapist. Then I have a line sister
who's a therapist. I check in word with my other therapist,
and I got therapists, Jesus therapist, Mama therapist, husband, Chad,
my daughter of a therapist.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Sometime. Anyway, I'm gonna get some therapy.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
But I like to make sure my people are good
because I feel like life is beautiful.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
We were promised trouble.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
You know. The Bible say a man born of a
woman is born of a few days, and those days
are full of trouble.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
So I feel like.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
You promised a little trouble, little sadness, little green a
lot of times. But life is beautiful, you know, and
it's to be lived, to be enjoyed, it to be experienced,
and I want people to experience them and live that.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
So, with all that being said, how are you mentally?

Speaker 3 (06:16):
I am will, but I am also stressed. I'm also like, Lord,
where do you have me going next? Because you know,
I just turned thirty, so it's like, yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
We had a time.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
It was amazing.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
But it's like I was talking with my friends and
we were talking about now we're like adults, adults, you know, yeah,
we're grown grown, Like of course we've been paying bills
before that, but it's like, where do we go from here?
What's our next step, what's our next calling in life?
I'm not gonna be stressful because we want what we want,

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but God has a difference. So it's like we have
to abide by that. But also it's just like that
flesh gets in and you're like, oh God, I want
to do this, I want to do that. Guys like
just be patient with me. So it's been rough because
I'm like, Lord, I know, I know you want me
to be greater than where I am now. But it's

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a process. So going through that process it's been hard.
And as you know, end of the school.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Year, I got we talk, sit down, be quiet, not look,
I passed, be quiet here and be quiet, shut out,
way shut out.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
So it's been tough and it's been just a lot
of changes and even at our school, like just you know,
just going through things through seasons and it's been rough.
It's been rough, but I'm like, Lord, I trust you
in this process, Like I know you have greater so
I need to trust in you. But at the same time,
I'm like, Lord, what is song that says I need

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to look? Yeahs I need you way, I need your yes.
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
So you know Lisa Nor her daddy played background for
my dad when my dad was living for the Hunters Curtis,
So yeah, our family have good times all the times,
but yeah, we need your little Jesus.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Yes, you said a.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Mouth full and I agree with you one thousand percent. Well,
I'm glad to know that you're well. I feel like
as an educator, this this end of the school year, craziness,
madness kind of comes with the territory, so I feel
like it kind of builds us, makes us stronger, but
it does it makes us excited about cam down to days.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
So where y'all can get his energy to.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Y'all momineum bro, we need a little break of that
break break, So listen, I'm happy to know that all
is well with you, Robert, All is well with the
meat spillers.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Remember I told y'all wanted my twenty twenty five goals
was to let go and let God things that I
have absolutely no control over. I no longer want to
worry about it or concern myself with it. I want
to be like, Okay, God, you said it was my.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Brain and barrass I'm going.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
That's a little bit too much for your girls, sir,
so let me hand it to you.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
But other than that, all is well. Been praying for
a lot.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
This is a season where God has me really seeking
his face, not only on my behalf, on other's behalf.
I have adaughtered this transitioning to college, so believe it
or not, we're still trying to decide what exactly where
she's gonna go, and we have less than a week
to make our you know, so we've been some praying, sisters.

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She has a lot of options and we're so grateful
for them, thank you Lord. And she's grateful for the
options as well. But you know, we still want to make.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
The right choice.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
And like you said earlier, you know, our flesh get away.
Sometimes we really want some that may not be. He
may get it to us because we wanted. He said
he'll give us the desires, but sometimes some things he
may not want for us. It's in Proverbs to where
he talks about man can plan their ways, you know,
but only the ways of the Lord is what's you
know gonna come forward?

Speaker 2 (10:17):
So that's what we're at. We're like, okay, we know
what we want, but.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
We need you to want what we won't give us what.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
You want and let us be good. Yes.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
So other than that, all is well.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Pray and trusting, believing, speaking it, receiving it.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
And you know, letting go and letting God.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Okay, So spillers, I pray all is well with you.
If all is not well with you, please say something
so that we can do something. Remember health is wealth,
and in order to be wealthy, you must first be
healthy mentally. Okay, all right, So we are now moving
on to our social media shout out time, Robert, this
is the time of the podcast where we shout out

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our social media platforms.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
So spillers or new spillers or spillers to.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Be if you're not following the Spill Podcast on all
spiel podcast platforms, but you're waiting a follow us on Instagram,
the Spell Podcast, twenty one YouTube, subscribe, like, share, follow whatever,
audit on YouTube The Spill Podcast, and then TikTok the
Spiell podcast as well, and then of course my social

(11:24):
media people know. My Facebook page is more personal. It's
not all things the spill like everything else, but it
does contain a lot of spill stuff and good entertainment
and stuff about me. That's to Challa t C h
A L l A. Y'all know I call my natural
hair Challa. So that's and my name is Toya Love Toya,
but people call me Toya. So the Ta is for Toy.

(11:45):
The Challa it's for my crown, my crown, but it's
to Challa Wilson on Facebook, which is my biggest platform.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
But I would love y'all to follow subscribe on all.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Of the other ones. Okay, Roberts, you got a lot
going on and I feel like the people need to
be blessed to know. So would you like to share software?

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Yes, So my personal Facebook page is Robert Drew Jones.
I also have a music page for all my albums
and everything on Facebook under Robert Jones.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
And where I being because I ain't know about I'm
feeling for right now Robert Jones.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
Yes. And then also I'm on Instagram but it's Rob
Jones Music. M U S I Q you know we
had to be a little different. And then I also
have a business that I started for educators called the
Teachers Lounge. You can follow us on Facebook under the
Teachers Lounge D Teachers Lounge d A g D Teachers

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Lounge on Facebook. And I also have a T shirt
business that I do.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
That's how because I just learned this to today's bills.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Yeah, so I do t shirt it's bags and everything
and that is designs by mister Jones under Facebook. So
you can follow us there so clock it.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
So go ahead and start following y'all that are listening
to us on Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio, Spotify, Google, Sprinker Podcasts.
Go ahead and pause it and listen YouTube. Y'all know
what to do. Y'all can be looking up and positing,
uh following while y'all watching. Okay, so thank you for
a shout that out. I'm gonna make sure I follow

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everything because I don't follow the music, So I'll.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Do that before we leave.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
And the Instagram spillers don't forget. The Spill podcast is
an advanced advertisement advocate. So if you have a business
you want to grow publicized booth sales, email me at
the Spill podcast twenty one at gmail dot com for
ad pricing and your business will be featured on all podcasts,
platforms and YouTube every time an episode is played and aired. Okay,

(13:59):
so make sure y'all hit me up for that. My
mom had been the only person that's been soliciting her business.
But I'm gonna get out a little bit more time.
But this podcast is steady growing. When I get to
be the biggest up there on the Black Effect podcast, them,
don't be calling it trying to get you, yeah, because
I'm gonna be booked and busy. Then just all right,

(14:20):
we are moving on to our spill trend topic time.
This is the time of the episodes. Spilis where we
talk about everything that is trending, or not everything, but
some things that are trending in the culture. And now
remember this is not a tea session, Okay. We're just
creating dialogue about things that can potentially potential potentially myself,

(14:42):
I'm sorry, have an effect on our culture, being negative
or positive. We just creating dialogue, going back and forth,
trying to get different perspectives. And we're not thinking for people,
but we try to understand.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
What the hell was they thinking, Like, what what was
you thinking about?

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Alright, so listen now that I have a man in
the building, and I probably talk about this with mister
Wilson too later because I think Robert gonna give us
a really nice kind I'm listen because y'all know, mister Wilson,
I have to pray speaking to try to speak in tongues,
and I have to go to the Lord, go to

(15:21):
the throne because I ain't no telling what's coming out of
his mouth. Anyway, I feel like Robert is just a
little bit more modest, and you know he ain't gonna,
you know, go crazy. But anyway, listen, y'all, I got
siper for a minute, juice.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Oh lord, you know what's going on with ENnie Sharp.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
You heard about this today? Was like what? Listen, listen, why?

Speaker 1 (15:50):
What? And why? Now. I'm gonna be honest. I'm just
gonna be real on each all to understand spills warm
coming from I look. I like Shennis Shaw. I ain't
gonna say I love him, love him, but I got
a real high liking for him and I have for
multiple reasons. The very first reason why I said I
respect that black man and I like him when he
was on the show with Skip Bailey and Skip dogged

(16:12):
him and did everything, and that man held his chin high.
He said, I'm not gonna let you in so my
integrity and I'm not gonna give you what the people
want me to give you. I'm just gonna walk away.
And he bowed out and walked away gracefully. That made
me like, okay, okay, I like you, Shen. I want people, Shen.
And then the man then messed around and got a podcast.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
And I'm a podcast girl. Y'all know that spellers.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
I love podcasts. I listened to them daily, every single day.
I'm gonna listen to at least two podcasts every day.
I don't care what I'm gonna listen to at least two.
So he got the podcast. I heard the Chris Brown interview,
and I was stuck. I was one ever since. That
was about a year or something. That was one of
his first interviews when he first got the podcast. I've
been done, like I've been sold. I've been I don't

(16:57):
listen to day there every single podcast, Tad. And then
the dumb dumb the messed around and did a podcast.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Well you know, Chad Sinko, Chad, Yeah, jo Jo and
I love me smoke.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
I know people be looking at I know you know
the head little woman be whatever his issues are. Allegedly,
he's weinty, he's funny, and I love a smart, witty person.
They done got this podcast together. Baby, I stay hollering,
I stay hot. And I said all that to say,
I like Uncle Shaw. I like Uncle sh I'm a Shanon,

(17:32):
a club Shane. I'm one of them. I'm subscribed, I'm following.
I'm not pissed me off because what is you doing?
What is you like? Let me give the spillers just
a little background if y'all don't know where I'm getting to.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Uncle Shannon.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Uncle Sharp is currently being sued by a young girl.
And when I say young, I mean young. And hey, y'all,
she's thirty sixty singing. She old enough to be his
grandchild literally, but she's alleging non consensual sexual misconduct and threats,
amongst other things that she endured while dealing with Shannon

(18:12):
Sharp and then most recently the last couple of months.
So I feel like it's all been kind of playing. Listen,
it's been a setup. It's a setup, Uncle Shannon. But
I'm not here to judge. I'm not a part of
the jewelry. I'm not in a judge cause I don't
know what's going on. But I honestly feel like it's
a set up. And it's so crazy because I watched
his three hour podcast with Auntie Monique and Monique. I

(18:34):
watched it and I remember it like yesterday, she was
telling it, man, you bro, you don't need no you
need to leave him younger as a law. You need
somebody that's gonna be cooking you something, taking it like
and she said it jokingly, but she meant it because
she knew that mess with these young girls, you're gonna
get in trouble. Like I can't tell you nothing because
you're grown, but you're gonna get in trouble anyway. And

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if I can be real, I've always felt like black
men that are in that type of spot, like whenever
they deal with none melinated women, it's always some foolery.
Like it's like he ain't lying on from Kobe Bryant,
you know, Like that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
How you even look at like the football players when
they get drafted and all that, and it's like, do
we not know the pattern that's always gonna happen, you know,
And I just when I saw that, I was like, dang,
like really like yeah, because I mean and then you
see the history, like even starting with like the her story,

(19:35):
and now it's like this continuous thing and most of
the men are black men. So it's like and I understand,
I'm a man, but at the same time, you get
to a certain age and it's like bro chill, like
what is you doing? Like you're too old to be
doing it any way. But it's just like I understand
you want to have your fun, you want to do

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what you want to do, But at a certain point
in age, it's like you need to see that part
in the situation that we end.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
And then understand that these young girls, baby, they's out
here for themselves. They got she twenty this girl twenty
years old, she got her whole life to live. She's
trying to get some stuff, she's trying to own some
stuff on your time, trying.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
To use your pocketbook to do it.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
You know what I'm saying, Like you can't think that
she think your sex is good, Like you cannot think that.
So I'm just I'm so so sad, and I'm so
disappointed for one, and I'm then I'm embarrassed for him,
Like you have daughters that are almost double this girl
ages like his daughters. He has a daughter that's like

(20:43):
in her mid late thirties. Like what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (20:46):
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (20:47):
And then I understand he wanted to do stuff private
and stuff like that. First of all, on the privacy,
the only thing you're going to be doing is we
conversing in published. You know what I'm saying, Call me up,
I'm here me and mere bye. You know we're not
giving you time long enough to record nothing. And then
when you're there, I need to see your devices or
whatever you get or you need to leave all your

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stuff in this room, and we get like you just gotta.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Be smart about it. And it's like almost like and
like I said, I'm a man, but it's like we
need a class.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
What not to do?

Speaker 3 (21:17):
One on one you don't do X y Z like
like I don't understand, I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
And then you whatever it is if this twenty year
old was doing that you feel like was satisfying you.
I promise you it's women close so to your age
that's gonna make that's gonna do it. But they gonna
do it even better, you know what I'm saying, That
gonna be even more season this help of twiny. She
don't even know herself yet, you're the one hundred men
she don't even know she I just don't get it.

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She doesn't she doing it to multiple people, but she
don't even know herself to know, Like, come on, yeah,
and I'm you know, waiting on my Lapoitier shape.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
I'm still I'm still waiting. Uncle.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
I'm getting it, Uncle, Shannon. I ain't gonna not support you.
I'm not gonna judge you because I don't want to
be judged. However, I think you was dumb and hell
for doing this, Like this was the dumbest, what the
people say, stupidest.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
This is the stupidest thing that you could have done.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
So what advice would you give to black men coming up,
especially the ones that are in the line. You know
we're going through the NFL draft now you know they're
coming on out. What advice would you give to them
when it comes to these situations.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
I think for one to be careful, to be careful,
have that discernment and even if you don't know, you know,
just listen to people that might be older than you,
because I know I was at an age where I
was like, I don't want to hear what y'all got
to say. But they're not saying that to make you
feel less than they're saying it because they either have
experienced it themselves or they don't want you to go

(22:53):
through something. So it's like we gotta be humble enough
to listen and put our pride in And I really
think like like like listening and just making sure like
you just don't, like my grandma always said, don't give
your stuff out to everything everybody. Everybody doesn't deserve that

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part of you, because I mean it truly is going
back to the word like a soul time, so you
with that person and it creates this this negative type thing,
and just you know, we gotta do better. As black men.
We definitely have to to be more careful of what
we do. And if you choose to do that, that's you,
but be careful about it. Be careful, like, yeah, we

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got to do better.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
And I agree with you wholeheartedly. My message to my
black kings. As a black woman, I understand the desire
for pleasure and sometimes you may not be able to
fulfill those desires with a sister, you know, because some
stuff we just think on dope.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
But I say, listen, listen, I ain't even.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Blessed take it. Sometimes we're gonna be like you lost
your mind. You say nothing, that's some you know, and
it is what it is. However, I feel like it's
important that you hiden your discernment and make sure that
whatever fund that you are trying to have is a
trustworthy fund and that the expectations for whatever it's gonna

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be are established from day one so that it won't
be might be on.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Saying jay z n d A, like why are we doing.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Doing non disclosure? Like come on because at some.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Point, how many more examples do we need? Change chan chain?
That's all they see?

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Like come and then I will I heard. Well, I
ain't even gonna bring it up because I don't want
to speak to that because I hope he try to
offer nobody anyway, just come on discern y'all need to
hire you speed up discernment. And if you have not
tapped into it, pray, get get on, get it together spiritually.
You know, if you're not a follower of Jesus Christ

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whoever you follow, ask them to help you with your discernment.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
I don't know how well it's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Ain't on the right side, but your speed up discernment.
That way, these girls won't keep getting y'all and y'all
messing up and thinking with the wrong brain.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
And I remember my girl Grandma. She always would always
would tell us, go through the four seasons with that person.
If that first season you see they switching up, or
the first two weeks you see they switching up, like
she always told us that because you know, because like
I said, you will know a person through every season.

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If you know, like you said, that discernment, if you
know that ain't the person for you, then you don't
need to be doing nothing that you's gonna get you
in trouble.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Anyway. She's twenty because at one point I was like,
that's what you get, but I don't want to get
to him, and the Lord be like, remember said, so
Lord forgive me because I did had it in my heart.
But like I'm like, what.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Did you expect?

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Fifty six and twenty? Like you could not have thoughn
she know you're not gonna marry her. She know it's
nothing long time. She know it's just a good time.
So the little twenty thousand dollars she was giving her
wasn't enough. She's trying to build some stuff. So anyway,
get it together. Men, think with the right brain, hid
in your discernment and pick some girls that want to
have fun, fun for real. You gotta worry about them

(26:27):
running your name. Okay, so we gonna move on to
the next one. I really wasn't gonna talk about this one,
but I feel like it's imperative that we keep exposing
these people for who they really are. Period. Tyler Chambers
come to the front of the classroom. He's a white
man from Riverview, Florida. He sparked online outrage when he

(26:47):
posted a video of a young black girl walking the
neighborhood selling candy and she happened to knock on his
door and ask if you wanted to sell candy instead
of I'm just saying no, thank you, thank you, this
is such a good thing, or in your two dollar
do that fool gonna say?

Speaker 3 (27:02):
I should have shot him.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
And I'm sure he said it in the worst voice
than that.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
I was lost for words when I read said, of course,
that made me super duper sad for the little girl
because she has no idea.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
She had no idea.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
And then of course this coward he sense deactivated his
social media account because he can't stand the rid of
cule everything that he's getting there he deserves, he can't
take it. You know what I'm saying, Laylen, I told
you I've been practicing letting go and letting God but last.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
And I don't wish nothing. I don't nobody.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
I promise I don't like this because I feel like,
you know, they say you dig a hope for somebody else,
you need to dig too for you. I like, I
believe it. Son't Mommy saying I hope, I promise I
don't do that. And I'm hope because I'm like, Lord, listen,
I don't want none to do that between you and them.
You know, but this one right here, Lord, we're going
to have a conversation, because give it to him. I

(27:58):
don't everything he just herves. Give it to him.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
We're talking about a young baby, didn't look no more
than about.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Ten years old.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
She was just a little black girl that's trying to
sell some stuff from her school. You were, and then
you got the audacity to post it. I know who
your president is. We don't care list anybody can get it.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
What do you think about this? It's very sad. It
made me honestly think about the whole like Trayvon Martin situation.
You know, an innocent young man got killed. You know,
we know what happened. This could have been the same situation, literally,
I mean the same situation. And it's just sad. As
a nation, we always know, we've known what this nation

(28:49):
has been built on, you know, and we know the struggles.
But to see how open they are now I'm talking
about don't care at all. It's just like, when did
we get here? When did we get to this point
where you're openly saying stuff like that?

Speaker 1 (29:08):
You know?

Speaker 3 (29:08):
And I think too, like it's it's just sad. It's
just said that you would do something to say something
like that, you know, And I saw that and I
was like, dang, like I'm so glad nothing happened me
to thank God. But it's like too, and my thing
is too, like how social media is like, well, what
was she doing what she was?

Speaker 1 (29:29):
But what if the tables were like and then like
we didn't do it back in the day we knocked
on doors and sell girls got cookie, Boy's got.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Popcorn, world famous charcolate.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
We went through the neighborhood knocking on doors doing that.
So what do you mean what was she doing? Like
when I see those type of comments, it just enrages me.
Like that's why I have to take my my my
breaks from social media. One of my friends said a
while ago, she was like she called me Charla. For
some reason, I thought she was like on Facebook all
the time. I'll send you a message to coming something,

(30:01):
you will come in four five hours later, I post
and I log off because it ain't gonna over stimulate me.
I'm not gonna let nothing have me. Sad woman, it
mad woman, no, And I.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Agree with you when it comes to that.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
It makes me extremely sad because I remember a time
when I grew up in the nineties.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
I know you a nineties baby, but you got a
nineties in year. I'm gonna get you.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Know, I'm a little bit older. You know I got
you buy them years, but you got a little nineties
in it. But I remember a time when we could
go through the neighborhood sell stuff for the school. We
could advertise my grandma was the candied Freeze cup lady.
You know what I said, My grandma sold all the
freeze cause baby, those staying out on a dog free
and then she'll sell snacks every now and then. But

(30:47):
I remember a time where we can freely run through
the neighborhoods to go do that, go knock on people doors.
It didn't matter what type of neighbor neighborhood you know,
And you said so open with it. Even then, y'all
the KK case, all them people that hate white people, Baby,
they stuff was in a closet, like they was not
open with it in the sap. They wasn't showing you

(31:08):
what they like. You would never know unless you went
to a meeting and said, Lord, that's my classmate. That's
my classmate, mom, Like you just would never know. But
it's just a different time. Like you don't know whether
your child gonna come back home. You gotta fear the
bigotry of racism and this type of foolish is.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
I think about the black boy.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
In Kansas City that went no in Kansas Kansas City,
missouris that knocked on the neighbors door. He needed help,
and the all white man killed the white He just died.
May risk in peace would do what you do, Lord,
and help me get it together.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
But he just recently died.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
But he shot that black boy for knocking on his door,
and a black boy just needed help. You don't know
if your kid's gonna come home. You don't know if
they're gonna be picked up from sex traffing, kings, from
just kidnapping.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
From being killed. Like it's just a different food days.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
And I think for me, like, so, I'm not married,
I don't have any kids, but it's like, Lord, how
can I raise a kid in times like this? Like
I look at my nephews who are in elementary school,
and I'm just always like, oh my gosh, Like you know,
what if that was them? What if something were to
happen to them? And I was even having a conversation

(32:21):
with my grandma. I was like, I want kids, but
it's like, God, like, how do you do this in
a nation that is so divided by the color of
our stuff? You know what I'm saying, Like how yeah?
And even being an educator too, like luckily my school
is more like liberal, so they you know, they they're

(32:42):
not open, but you do have some of those kids
that are. Well, my dad voted for so and so
and all that, and I'm like yeah, and I'm just
like where. It's like, I go back to where did
we get to this point? Like? Where was the switch?
You know how we just become a nation of I
don't like you because you're black. I don't like you

(33:02):
because you brown. I don't like you because your hair
looks like this, or you need to do this because
you know. It's just it's a mess.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
It's a high man mess, and it's sad. It pisces
me off, I mean, and it makes me even more
sad for these kids because I honestly feel like they'll
never experience the luxury of freedom that we have, you
know what I'm saying, Like they just won't experience it.
And I'm telling you, you're talking about how would you

(33:33):
raise a kid in this day in time. My daughter
is almost eighteen years old, and I'm not gonna say
this has been stressful because I trust God and I've
reared her, raised her in the church, raised her in
the faith.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Like baby, she's gonna hear her.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
I'm gonna say every day, even especially now driving, make
sure you say your prayers. I'll tell you, did you
say your prayers? Talk to the Lord, did you read
your scripture? I've done this, I've modeled it, and I've
done that because it's a crazy and it's so again
I'm not saying it's stressful because I trust God, but
it's something that I don't feel like we should have
to worry about it, but we do and I do,

(34:12):
and it's consuming, like I have to make myself okay,
you don't already gave her the Lord. Lord particularly, she's
good like now with her being where she is.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
At her banquet.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
You know, I'm always like, and she been driving by
herself for a year, but I'm still like, oh, little
help protect the keep it Jesus, that'll be making the
right choice, this little let it be around people. It's
like I'm always like that, and that's how we're supposed
to be. But I feel like now it's almost like
too intent, you know what I'm saying. It's like, dang,
your kids can't even have fun. Her problem was last weekend,

(34:43):
we just had a really really sad incident to happen
in Conway, up City close to in central Arkansas. I'm like, Lord,
it's my baby, gonna baby to enjoy her prom Like
is she gonna baby to enjoy the after party with
her friends without me.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Whore had look the police there, they know your exit, right,
Like what the hell I remember going up going to
the skate rink.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Can't tell you the exit out of state rink if
Jesus you know what I'm saying, Like, we just didn't
have these type of worries.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
And even though like I'm in the later of the
nineties and stuff, but I remember growing up like we
would walk to school, no issues. I would go to
my best friend's house that live across the street. We
would go, you know, with his mom to Memphis. I
remember my aunt. I used to on the weekends go
hang out with her in Memphis, one of my great aunts.
We'd be at the skate rink in Memphis. I mean

(35:36):
every almost every weekend. And it's like, now you you
like you said you can't do that because you worry,
like okay, like you said, who's gonna be there, what's
going on? Like what's the atmosphere? Like like I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
That growing up literally at all, not a care in
the world.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
So I don't know, it's just praying time.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
I say that all the time. But I feel like
I want. I don't know if it's gonna get any better.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
I love and then ever since he done came, ever
since forty seven and then took old Baby, I feel
like they've just gotten even more. It's like, you know, Lord,
that's all I said. I promise you, I just be
like Jesus. And one of my prayers I said on
the last episode, still but one of my prayers is still, Lord,
please do not put me in those type of situations,

(36:31):
like please don't make me because I just I know
what I'm supposed to do, but I don't know what
I would do. You know what I'm saying, because I'm
practicing being proactive instead of reactive. But it's bothered as
I get. I don't know what I'll do in those situations.
So Lord, Jesus, keeping it the cross, listen, take it
all right?

Speaker 2 (36:52):
So we all right?

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Did you want to add anything to that?

Speaker 3 (36:55):
I think we hit it.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Okay, let's get on, let's let's take it. Let's light
the light the room, let's lighten the moon because all right,
so we are moving on finally after something that makes
you scratch your head. Besh y'all bother all that stuff,
I'm gonna always have something amazing to come back with

(37:17):
and talk about, especially in the culture. So I asked
you earlier if you watch Sinners, I won't go into details,
but I do want to shout out Ryan Coogla and
the Michael B.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
Jordan Baby aka the Dynamic.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Duo the Box of King film. Listen to me. I
ain't gonna get into all the amazing blackness and dopeness
and representation for the culture that they have been putting
all since Fruitville Station, the pan the Black Panthers, something Else,
fruit Black Panther Anyway, some other stuff, but anyway, google

(37:58):
them and you'll see Baby Sinners though.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
But but listen to my husband can tell you.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
I was not excited at first because I thought it
was like gonna be like a slave kind of like something.
It's all super super excited. But when the plot got
to thinking and I was like, nah, I ain't signed
up for the.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Watch y'all. We're going to see it again tomorrow, like
it is so good.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
When I say listen, I'm not gonna go into details
because you have not seen it, but I will say spillers,
it's an amazing movie with an amazing plot twist intertwined
with real culture film experiences from the thirties and forties,
the messages. It makes it to me relevant to what
black folks deal with, what we've dealt with since then,

(38:52):
and it's still relevant today.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Y'all.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Listen. It's deep without even really having to be deep,
because once you realize what he's talking about, you don't
realize that. I mean, it's deep, but it's something we've
been dealing with anyway. It's a musky. If you have
not seen it, go if you're buut legged, go by
a dagg just just go get a ticket, Just.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
Go buy one. Gonna do that.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Just award the black people, you know, to us to
get the five dollar twos at the movie. Go to
the movie theater and just get a fire. You ain't
even gotta beat staying at a watch. Just get the ticket, okay,
because you're black. You know we're a buleg In a minute, baby,
because listen, I ain't.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Me listen this.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Absence twenty twenty five, Mae. We got access to everything. Listen,
but this one. This is one that I would recommend everybody, even.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
If if you do bout legged.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
It is what it is. But feel a little better
about yourself and go buy a ticket. And I feel
like that because I feel like the more they win,
the more the Ryan Cooglers, the black exec the black
directors in the cinema, the par the more they win,
the more we ring swings because we get to see
this type of entertainment, We get to see this type

(40:06):
of blackness that's just gonna make you feel. You know,
y'all know we feel some type of way for forty
seven being in the office, But when you see Sinners,
you don't think president Office. You like what we're doing.
What was you gonna say?

Speaker 3 (40:22):
I was gonna say, so, what would you how many stars?
Would you give it?

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Five? For sure? If I could fall two thumbs up
from the tomato people, I'm giving it all. It is amazing.
It's and when I say, Michael B. Jordan's played two
characters smoke and snacks and twin brothers. Oh yes, oh,

(40:48):
and then the love story and it it wasn't the
you know, typical Hollywood you know fine uh, fair skin,
curvy baby. It was a black black and black chocolate Africans.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
So listen everything about it.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
The actors he bought at White's agent.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
I say why genius that boy. Listen he is he
is directed some awesome sometimes it's born And I cried
at the end.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
Yeah, we all were. It was so agree up on
every day gone movie. Hell, I'm just and this this.
I was throwing up on this one, especially at the end.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
I was flying and shouting.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
Yet I can't wait. I'm not gonna say nothing else,
but you have got to see it. I'm hopefully we
go see it again tomorrow early, because I asked my
husband we can go to the earliest, Yeah, before the crowd,
and then I gotta come home and cook Sunday. You know,
I gotta give anyway. So yeah, go see it. If

(41:53):
you have not seen Sinners Spillers, please go see it.
It is so amazing and I promise you won't regret it.
And we need, I mean Ryan Coogler to keep winning
because I love to see everything that this young black
man is doing. His wife said she played paid three
hundred dollars some years ago for something in directing classes,

(42:17):
something he wanted to do and he couldn't afford. And
she invested that three hundred dollars.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
In her husband.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
This nigga, this.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Negro getting one hundred million dollar deals up front just
to make up you know what I'm saying, and then
knocking that offense weekends he's making it back plus some
like what and just.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
To think about, like I wonder what goes through his mind,
to see where he started to where he is now.
And for your wife to invest into believe because.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
That don't happen off and because you know we'd be like.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
That means that.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Part what.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
But for her to invest and to see something in
her mind. See, yeah, you know I love that.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
I listen, I love that, bove them, I love it.
All right, that wraps up our trending topic. We are
now moving on our trending spill topic. All right, spillers,

(43:26):
we are back. I hope you enjoyed those amazing jazz
tunes for my guys, the Trap Jazz Giants Philly Moo
Mouton and Quincy Q Note Watson out of Little Rock, Arkansas.
So we are moving onto our spill topic, Tan, because yes,

(43:48):
thank you, So we're moving on that.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
I gave y'all a little snippet earlier of how this
episode kind of came about because I kind of told
y'all how no I gave y'all a snippet of how
I knew or met Robert. So now I'm gonna give
you all a snippet on how this episode came about.
So remember earlier I told you to correct me if I'm wrong,
but I need you to correct me again or add
something if I missed something. So remember I told y'all

(44:15):
earlier I'm a fan of his gospel album. It's amazing,
and I've had it for a couple of years. I
think it's been that since like twenty three.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
I think we just had like a two three year
I think two years.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
See two six, so and I've had a sense.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
So I'm a fan of his gospel album and I
told you y'all that that's amazing. And then the amazing
after hours educator entertainment that he provides for the educators
to give us some time to let our hair zion
period listen to vibe out like a really good time.
Without being an educator, you're just a person, You're just

(44:50):
whomever your name is. And then every single interaction I
have had, we have had he's always been so kind
and so welcoming and so nice and so happy and
a smiling and just and I was like, he's just
so dangne perfect.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
Like I gotta invite him to the podcast.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
So look you idea. Yeah, I'm happy to be here,
that you're here. This is gonna be I'm excited for
my I'm excited for y'all.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
To hear this.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Y'all know, we record like a couple of days before,
so I'm super excited for y'all to hear this episode.
So let's get into it before I get into my questions.
Until I told y'all earlier, I got him beat by
by eleven years years.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
But he's so amazing.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
However, I still question people and I ask people these
questions just to kind of see where people minds stuff is. Now,
I'm not as open as I used to be to
you know, be friend and new people. Like my friends
to tell y'all have different friendship circles, a handful of them,
like what it's from work, church, my community, Like I

(45:51):
have true friendship circles of people that are really my
friends in real life. But we always go by no.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
New friends, no new friends, Like that's what we do, dude.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
I go have fun with people, I go have drinks,
I have good conversations, good vibe the whole ten yards,
and I'm okay with leaving it right there, like yeah, yeah, Associate,
we had a good time. Associate, Yeah we're not doing it.
But how do you feel about bringing new people into
your space? Like are you open to new friends?

Speaker 3 (46:20):
Friendships? Like yeah, I am open to it. But sometimes
it's hard because if you don't know somebody, it's like
do I want to tell you everything or do I
just give you bits and pieces? So it's hard. It's
definitely hard because you want you don't want that person
to take the bone and then go other places. So

(46:41):
it's definitely hard. But I am open to like having
new friends and everything. But my friends always talk about
me because they say when you first meet me, I'm
real quiet, and they're like you always just watching. I'm like, yeah,
I'm observing because if I don't feel the values, I'm like, hey, cool,
we hung out, let's go. I'm going.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
I'm going.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
I'm But that's just me. But I love people. I've
always have connected with people, whether it's at work, home, music,
like school, like everything, Like I just I love people.
I love people, So so I'm open to new friends.
Yeah yeah, yeah, well.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
You stuff for me now so you no matter why not. Look,
I'm selling my husband at and I was like, I
think I'm gonna ask him the question about the being
open to new people being in their space because I'm
really meticulous now about you know what I'm saying. But
I feel like like I'm so i have this amazing
relationship with guy, and I'm one of those people like

(47:40):
he when I say give me a sign to let
me know, like he got in the face because I'm
a little hard headed and then I'm apprehensive we listening
to certain stuff. But my discerning is so amazing that
that's something that that's a gift.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
That I feel like discern.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Like people, Okay, they got good intentions, you.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Know what I'm saying about.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
Yeah, you know, but.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
I'm okay, even if your bobe is off, I have
an ice little drinking chuckle with you, and then I'm
gonna red. Okay, Well good, so we're friends. Now you
can do about it. Okay.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
Here, So we're getting into it. Our first question.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
So I'm not gonna do the education thing a lot
a lot, but I feel like it's imperative that I
highlight you being a black man in education because that's
literally like a trophy, and so I love that for you.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
So how did you get into education? Which is a
funny story. Let me tell you, Okay, I was actually
a music major.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
And he sing I told, we talked y'all about the album,
so he has abut when I say y'all, he singing
singing Ron's Ministers hoops, negro country, southern gospel, not mathist
country sound the gospel.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
So yeah, I was a music major. And you know,
you go to college and you're like, oh, I think
I want to do this. I think I want to
do that. Let me change my major. And so I
was a music major for two years. I felt like
I didn't really care for the program. Now, don't get
me wrong. I played the piano as well. Their program
was more classical. I love classical music. I played it before,

(49:27):
I studied it before, but I was like, it's born
like litterally bored, and so I was. And then I
switched to psychology. Flunked the class y'all made like an
f My mama said, noah, do this. So then I
was like, let me do social justice like you know

(49:47):
that type vibe. I took a couple of classes. Then
I was like, no, so I had the opportunity to
go on a mission trip to Africa. Yes, yes, Gerali.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
One of my good friends, my big sister Michi, went
a couple of years ago.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
If you get a chance to go, I want to.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Go to Africa.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Like, we just had a brunch and I'm not trying
to cut you off.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
I know the sign the Lord knows what he's doing
because we just had a brunch. She went to Africa
about two years ago, maybe a year or two ago,
but we had brunch our sisters circle Saturday, and I
told him, I said, y'all, can we plan an African
trip like the next couple of years And it was
like yes.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
I was like yes, okay, keep going.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
So you went.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
I went to Africa with the campus ministry at Euler
and I got there didn't know what to expect. Never
I've been out the country before, but never have stepped
foot in Africa at all. And so we went and
I got a chance to teach at an orphanage and
I fell in love. I was like I want to
teach and the kids were just so loving, and I

(50:55):
think what what broke me? And what was like, Okay,
I definitely want to teach. I had a kid. His
name was Jumbo. That was nickname, Yeah he was it
was Jungo and Panda Panda was He was super funny,
like teenager but really cool. And he was like, I

(51:17):
want to see the beach and I was like really,
I said, you haven't seen the beach before. He was
like no, and he was like I want to come
to America because I really want to learn like American
ways and this is and that, and I was just like, man,
like you know this that that dessert, that desire to
do that. And so then I remember getting on the
plane and I struggled because I'm like, Lord, I'm in

(51:38):
this music program. I've gotten a full ride like a scholarship,
so I can't just change my major like that. But
I've already have changed my major so many times. And
the Lord was just like, you need to be a teacher.
And I was like you sure, Lord, Like I know
I want it, but are you? You were like diving
right now? And I got back come and I changed

(52:02):
my major to education. And it was a struggle, y'all.
It's definitely like my friends are like, you're gonna be
a teacher, Like you ain't gonna make no money. And
I was like, and then you know, we're still were
playing on the lord to open doors for that money
to flow him. But I told them, y'all, it's not

(52:23):
about that money. It's about the connection with students. Like
I love my kids. I love my students. I think
of them like as my own kids. Like I'm there
to protect you, to help you, to guide you, to
help you grow, like to listen, you know, And it's
a beautiful thing. And education has its struggles, but I

(52:45):
think it's the outcome of like you have a kid
that's been in your class and then they leave and
come back five years later and they're like, you made
a difference in my life, you know what I'm saying, Like,
or you teaching?

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Are you staying in the hallway and middle school during
duty and one of your kids who came from the
neighborhood that you were in, they parents have progressed and.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
They've moved up and they come and say, hey.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
You remember me, And I say their name and she
hugs me so tight, thank you. Or a parent messages
on Twitter on Instagram and says, hey, my daughter remember
when you were in second grade and she needs some
chapsticking for the picture. Just yea for the income outcome.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
Because I still have a parent that I'm close with
today and she always says like, I'm so grateful you
were in my son's life because I actually looped up
with my kids from first grade to second grade before, yes,
and she was just so grateful and so thankful. So yeah,
I love.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
It, and I love that for you, and I do
want you to know publicly we appreciate you being a
black man teacher because there's a shortage of black male
representation in the education system. So it brings me so
much joy when I see black men in the class
and the education setting. So thank you. Now, speaking of
being educated, We're gonna talk about the parent in the

(54:06):
coming back to get into that later, but I do
kind of want to hit on before we go further
further about your gospel album. You're a teacher and then
you have a whole gospel album. But it makes sense
now because see, I didn't know you were a music
major in her. See it's clicking. What was the influence
behind you doing that? You got a whole app I

(54:27):
got nine songs.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
Crazy, it's so crazy when I say it is wild, yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
Because I'm like, you lear from the classroom to the
studio to the to the front, Like what was the
influence behind all of this?

Speaker 3 (54:41):
So I grew up. Here's the crazy thing. So I
grew up. I started a gospel group when I was
like in seventh, seventh or eighth grade with this young
lady that we were all went to elementary together. She
was from Chicago. She could sing really well, and I
was like, oh, we should, like, you know, start a croup,
but she was like so then I ended up later,

(55:02):
like maybe a year later, my mom's beautician was like,
we need a piano player, and I'm saying, oh, I
played the piano, so let me let me, you know,
come out there and check it out. It was a
Baptist church in the country, but we got on down
when I said we did, and she ended up going
to church there, which I was like, okay.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
So did you know before no I did.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
That's what I'm saying, he does, he does it. So
we ended up connecting at church and we started this group.
We did this whole group thing. We won a Stellar
Award in twenty thirteen, which was, Oh my god, who
is the girl? We're still I mean we're not like

(55:46):
close close, but we're still I mean we are going
yeah yeah, which which is a cool experience and like
with everybody go to the we did, so yes, it
was a Nashville Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
I got a fellow, come on, keep going.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
With the experience and being so young because we were
in high school when we won, and just being able
to see people that we look up to and that
we listened to. I remember we were backstage doing press
and we ended up seeing like David and Tamlaman and
I was just like so star struggle. I was like
a beautiful y'all look really good and they were like,

(56:35):
keep doing what you're doing, especially being young. So just
that experience, and then you know, later on we all
went our separate ways because of college and we wanted
to finish school. And then I just got in the
moment of I was writing songs like consistently, and especially
like during COVID time because we were shut in, couldn't

(56:56):
go out with nobody.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
I mean it was yeah, you got the.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
COVID exactly exactly, and that's where I wrote most of
the songs, like during COVID and like later on through
the years or whatever, and it was just it was
just it was just an experience and then to be
able to because so I'm backtrack a little bit. So
I was in second grade, teaching second grade, and I

(57:22):
was like, I want to do an album by myself,
which i was like kind of worried because I've never
have been like that person to step up. I've always
been like put me in the background.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
I've seen background all day.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
But everybody was like, Robert, you need to like you
need to step out because you have a gift, you
have an annointing, so do it, like God, God. And
it was crazy because people were like I prophesigned and
saying like I think the Lord is telling you to
step out. I mean that was just the word that
you step out, step out. So I finally did. But

(57:57):
here's the crazy that we struggle finding a producer. I
mean me and my manager. We were calling this person,
calling that person, and finally we got with Cedric Thompson.
His wife is June Thompson, who sung with John p.
Key and all them. She a beast, I think, yes, yes,

(58:18):
and they were just phenomenal. And he was like, hey,
like I'll do it. And he didn't even know me,
and so he lived out of Charlotte and uh like
North Carolina was yeah, Caroline. So he was like, I'll
do it. Gave us a good rate discount and all that.
And I was like, it's crazy because he didn't even
know me, Like he is a Grammy Award winning producer

(58:40):
like Clark Sisters all of that, So just to be
around him and learn from him and to grow from him.
And I was teaching and then Friday getting on a
flight to Charlotte and coming back Sunday, and I mean,
it just all worked out. And I was tired. Of course.
I was like, Lord, I know you want me to
do this, but I'm Monday through Friday getting on the

(59:03):
plane going to Charlotte recording. But it ended up being
like the most like rewarding experience I've ever had, like
to work with someone who is humble as he is,
I mean, to be able to learn from him, I
mean it was. It was wonderful.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
That makes me so happy. Oh, that makes me so happy,
Like I ain't gonna do the happiest here. I be
so happy for my people, especially when God in the mix.
You know what I'm saying, Because it doesn't matter what
we do, how time we are how frustrated. How maybe
when gotten the thing, it's just don't work out. So

(59:41):
that makes me so happy. You went from well you're
still teaching even when you go back to the Sailors
in the future, I feel like you're still gonna be like, yeah,
I still want to teach. You're gonna have sophomore album out,
and you're still gonna be going in the classrooms.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
We had a tour coming up.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
Yes, it's gonna have.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
To be Saturday's Monday, so I can teach money through Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
That'll be the Lord. Don't want to give it to baby,
because let him give me a tour, baby to.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Kiss you came and I love you, Pedical View, I
love you, Keny Anderson. I love you, mister Walker dogs.
I need to pray. Can y'all have my position for
a year or two to five me back when it's time.
Well that is so good to hear.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Let me be an advocate for the people, especially the
teachers like me that curse a little bit. But we
love the Lord and he heard our crying, you know,
to teaching children all day. Especially now listen, we got
listen what yeah, listen Jesus that we're talking about Ready, Ready, listen.

(01:00:51):
How do you do that?

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
The praise and worship?

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
You got this album because when I say, I've never
shared it with you, but I'm sharing it with you publicly.
I often your album is in rotation on my title
of camera. I had album music, I think when I
first got into the iPhone stuff in the two thousand
and nine eight nine. But when title came out Beyonce
a Lemonade, you can only download her album on title,

(01:01:19):
and that's when I get titled and had it since.
But your album is in one of the is in
the rotation for my gospel with Tamla Man's care Scheer,
Tasha Cobb's Lennard like Kurk Franklin. Yeah, it's it's in
a mix. I'm talking about sometimes heaven in the world.
I get the anyway, so it's there. However, being where

(01:01:43):
we come from spiritually and educators. So you told me your.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
Influence, how do you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Balance yeah, because it's.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
Like yeah, because I ain't gonna there's somethings. I'm like, Lord,
I'm gonna have to because let me check you my.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Past religion, now religion down, I'll be like, listen, sometimes
the people we need Peters and Thomsons.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
We need the people that's gonna let them have it,
but keep it exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
But I think, well, I think we're it's it's a
I don't know because I'm I'm still trying to figure
out how to balance it, you know. And I kind
of have taken like a break from music a little
bit just because I want to focus more on school
and focus more on like my my career. But I
still am wanting to still sing and stuff, and like

(01:02:39):
I even have talked about we recording like a live album,
like that's that's the next goal. And Lord, it's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Is I'm going right there? They got me shout jump
because who ain't gonna get a Lord the praise, baby, baby, Baby.

Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
I'm gonna I'm gonna holler, no rocks.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
Crying after me. Baby, I'm giving it to him.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
But even I think about when I was teaching and
like recording the album and traveling and going here and
going there, I had to really just ask the Lord
to give me strength because it was hard. I mean
definitely like having to turn off my educator mode and
go into artists mode, like going into hey, doing interviews,

(01:03:24):
you know, calling in the interviews at different radio stations
and promoting music and singing. But also I think the
beauty in it is being able to minister to my
kids and even though you know, we technically are not
supposed to, but my kids every year for some reason
they're like, we heard you can sing, and I'm like,

(01:03:45):
did you now? I had a kid this year it
was white kid was I was just like, oh my gosh.
He was like, I listen to your music and I
listen to it every day. And I was like, are
you serious and he was like yes, and he was

(01:04:06):
like the main song, Like I still believe he was like,
this is just But being able to show them like
videos of me singing and stuff and them to be like,
I want to do that one day. I think it
sparked something in them to be like, you know, I

(01:04:28):
don't just have to be this probably.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
So I love it. I love it, and it's hard
to balance that, but I think there's but with any job,
it's hard to balance, like your life and your career,
you know. But I think with God.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Man, it's been that part and all things are possible.
And you said that I play background music in my
class every single day and I.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Play all Jones one minute.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
I may have jazz classical during testing it be a
faint classical sound, but my kids know they're gonna hear
some music.

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
So today we were kind of discussing it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
One of my I.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
Said, what type of music do missus Wilson normally pay
play Monday through Thursday? Because I was subbing another class
and a student heard some earth wind and fire and everything, and.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
I was like, okay, none of my kids have never
joined in.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
I said, because I don't really, I don't play this
type of music Monday through Thursday Fridays. I kind of
lay it back for my kids because it's a weekend.
And one of my white students, she was like, you
play Christian music. You know, black people we call it
gods grass guys. But that baby says, you play Christian music,
and I do. And then you said, let your kids

(01:05:48):
knowing about I've been at this school, the middle school,
I mean I've been there four years, three years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
My first year.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
That's when we were kind of still kind of hybrid
doing stuff, not doing and like assemblies and stuff like that.
Really big and twenty one, but we were doing the
national anthem rotating it because you know the these strip
require you to play it or something for middle school, Yeah,
required for like one, so we could like it. And
so the choir teacher was like, I know your people,

(01:06:17):
your family, blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
Can you sing blah blah blah blahs?

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
Like sure? And so I literally recorded myself singing the
national anthem, and but it was played for the entire
school and it was played on a smart boy. It
one played like in a calm, like they had to
see me singing it. And so one of the students
was like, miss Wilson, you got you got some vocals
on and blah blah blah. And I was like, listen,
God gives us gifts too, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
And it's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
That's happened to your gifts, like your career maybe one thing,
and that's good to Baby's happened to your career and
love it and do everything that you can. But if
God has given you a gift outside of that, make
sure you tap into that, utilize it, especially for his glory. Now,
he gonna make room for whatever it be. Whatever it be,
he gonna make it. Do what to do, but make

(01:07:02):
sure that you tap into it and you you know
what I'm saying. So you said there with your kids
watching your video, I know your kids probably just be like.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
You're super and being with the younger kids, they're like
that is not you. Like they're like, hold on, zoom
in a little bit, and I'm like that, and they
say that you're.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
Famous, y'all, and I'll be like, yeah, I'll teach you somebody.
I am, I am something. I am madam ask I
am somebody.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
I love that. Listen.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
I'm like, I have to listen to me a little
Jesus this day and time.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
Baby, I'm like Dave in Carbage yourself. I can't say listen.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
Friday, Monday walked was wins thirst listen.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
We got to listen. We love y'all, cheering, Lord knows
we do. I'm like, uh, Sophia on a color purpose.
Lord knows we love them. The Lord know we love them.

Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
But listen.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
When they come to any break, their energy changes, the
misbehaviors pigures, especially before summer break.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
And what's crazy is it's the kids that you don't
that you don't expect you be like now you ain't
said a word all year, but now you cultn't rule.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
I have one kid. I'm an interventionist. I have super
small classes. People know that I have one kid in
my class. She told me this week, missus Wilson, your
class is the only class I talk in. Well, you
don't need to start talking in here here doing other classes.
But I love that I can make them so comfortable

(01:08:51):
that they're able to be theirselves. And I'm a reading inventionist,
so it requires them to do a lot of dictations.
I have to hear them and that they have to
dictate things to me. But we've been going. We do
conversations and all that kind of stuff. But see, shut up, like,
don't wait till the end of the year. Started talking
here everybody. Everybody want to talk now where it's time

(01:09:12):
to go home? Wait?

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
Whoa? So listen, Yeah, it's time for us to reset.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
And we're ready for y'all to enjoy y'all babies and
were ready for us to get the word time.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
We love listening to the gospel music and of Jesus
music and the in the Heaven album, but we're ready
for a little break break.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
You'm wrong with you, so listen.

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
Robert the Teachers Lounge teachers has to c at the end, right,
the teachers with the Z lounge. Look, I had to
put infaces on that because y'all looking for him and
the teachers lounge. The teachers has to c at the end.
You know, you learn in literacy and education that sometimes
it says and that's okay. You know it's okay. So

(01:09:59):
that's the the room we got in literacy. But listen
when I say it's amazing, y'all, it is so amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
It's listen.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
He got I'm gonna let him talk about the one
he got coming up in Memphis later on. It's gonna
be lady, because I'm sad because I'm gonna be out of.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
The country the day that now. But I don't like to.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
Matter of fact, we're gonna have to do a day something.
We're gonna have to blend it. And I'm ready, like
you already got the DJ. We can work on that
and the bartendency we got them to. We just got
to get us a place and a caterer and we're good.
We don't know it too, I'm ready. Yeah, we're gonna

(01:10:42):
do it. But anyway, the teacher's landed. It is so
amazing on behalf of the educators. You see, I bring
five six to.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
Mine with you every time.

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
Come come, but they want to stay, like, don't get out,
I want to have fun.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
But my ones that be coming women we be leaving.

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
The party. She said, was like I like that, Yeah,
we coming every time.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
We're coming. Good. So listen tell me tell I just
love that for you when I say I love that
for you, because it's such a blessing for me, my
people and my cousin shar Day. She's a wife educated,
she's like big high up in Pulaski County, but she

(01:11:32):
doesn't really get out or do anything, you know what
I'm saying. She go to Texas with her big sister
and her husband do like they're on their honeymoon stuff
right now. But as far as getting out of the city,
she's done.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
But the teacher lounge she came to that one in November.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
Everyone he do, I'm telling I'm coming and she and
I love that for her because she's one of them
people that don't let their hair down outside of their
career and their family. Tell us about it and how
did it come come out?

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
What made you do it? Like I'm heavy, it's grown
people like, so, it's crazy because the teacher's lounge has
been a dream for years. When I was teaching at
King Elementary and I'm gonna shout out my friend Angela
Miller because I used to go to her room and

(01:12:22):
I was like, we gotta do something for teachers. We
got to and she was like, well, what you gonna do?
And I was coming up with all these ideas and
I was like why. I got an idea of like
a business that caters to teachers where we can throw events,
have workshops, but it's where teachers can just be themselves,
be humans for a minute, you know. And she was like,

(01:12:43):
we'll just do it, and I'm like no. So then
the next year, I'm like, miss miss Miller, I really
want to do this. She was like, just do it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
That part and let me stop you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
My guy sister, who's much younger than me, she's having
a business. Speaker like shout out to an Alice Richardson
Johnson aka the Vibe Collection owner, but she's had a
business called Speak Life for your new apparel. It's beautiful,
it's amazing. When I first started my podcast, I was
so apprehensive.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
Her whole thing was just do it. Wait on tea.
Just do it, Just do it. So I love that
keep going I had.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
I had to shout out.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
Lee was one of the ones I still got my notes.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
I went to a couple of masterclasses she had before
I actually stepped out on faith and did it, and
she was like, just do it, Like what, just do it?

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
Going. So eventually this year I was just like you
know what, Lord, like, I'm gonna do it. I'm just
gonna throw an event for educators where we can be
ourselves because I think people people think we babysit us.
I'm talking think they're like, y'all just baby sea kids,
y'all don't do nothing this and not. But if you

(01:13:56):
truly knew what we do as educators, I mean it
is it's a lot. So I was like, Lord, how
can I give back to educators but in a way
where they can just be themselves and have fun and
reconnect and recharge. And the Lord gave me like the
teacher's lounge, and I was like, what do we do
with the lounge? We talked, laugh, gossip, eat good food

(01:14:20):
all that. So I was like, Lord, what do I
need to do? So I mean literally like it just
all played out and I wrote, as I said, write
the vision, make it come on. So I did that,
like I wrote down like what I want, what I
would love to see, and I just made it happen.

(01:14:42):
I got the business license for years, but it's been
beautiful to see. And that first event, I'm not gonna lie.
I was nervous because I'm like, Lord, yes, yes, yes,
because I'm like Lord, I just want people come out.
And it was a good time. It was a good

(01:15:03):
time just to see educators to just let loose because
I always say, how are we going to pour into
kids if we are not poured into you know?

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
Clock it so true.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
Because at times I think we run so much throughout
the year that it's like, okay, now, who's going to
pour into us? Because we poured into all these kids
and giving us giving them one hundred percent. So I'm like, Lord,
I want to be able to pour back into educators,
to be able to say thank you for doing what
you were doing, like you are appreciated, you are loved.

(01:15:42):
We care about your mental health because mental health is real,
like we talked about earlier, it's real. And I think
a lot of educators are getting burned out, burned out. Yeah,
and not coming back, and it's like, how can we
decrease that number of burnouts or number of like teacher retention, Like,
how can we decrease that? And that's when I came

(01:16:04):
up with the whole Teachers Lounge initiatives. And we're growing,
we're doing things, and next year it's gonna be even
better because we're finna get these events rolls.

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
And I'm so excited for you because it's something that
I look forward to. How can be negative Nancy for
thirteen point one two seconds?

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
It's not as often as.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
I would love, but I understand the business aspect, and
it is free y'all. He don't be charging us nothing.
The only thing he asked us to do is.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
To tip the bot, tip the boss.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
So that means the look of free, Like what is
y'all doing? That's why when I come in, I'm gonna
put ten twenty dollars. Every time I go to them,
I'm gonna put something in there because as if it's
tonight that I've been at a club.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
You know what I'm saying, But it's not clubbish.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
It's clubbish for teachers, if that makes sense, Like it's
we only gonna go so far. We're gonna dance, we're
gonna have drinks, we're gonna eat good, we're gonna laugh,
and we're gonna go to hell home stuff. Everything about
it is beautiful, the setups, the decorations, and to me,
it just makes me more grateful because I feel like

(01:17:11):
he invests his money and his time into this to
celebrate other people, you know what I'm saying, And so
for that, like.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
We're gonna celebrate you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
The Lord's gonna put something together for us to be
like all right, mister teacher, found yeah, we got We're
gonna do this for you. So I appreciate that my
I have my handful. It's like five or six of
us that comes, but I'm expecting more of us to
come like they saw the nine eighties nineties party. Teacher,

(01:17:41):
Why you didn't tell I shared it all this? Like
what more do you want me to do? I invited
all to the last y'all and say nothing. So now
I'm sharing it like I'm not gonna keep begging y'all.
I'm telling y'all it's a good groun. But people, you know,
I'm from the South End and I'm a professional Christian wife,
mother lay so I got the hood, I got every

(01:18:01):
I'm a mixture of everything.

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
I'm mixed.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
I'm mixed. I got a lot of stuff in it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
So people just don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
They'd be like, now I don't know. Now that's toy.
Now what does it be gonna be? Now be knowing
so I can show them better than I you exactly,
and so that right there, Listen when I say He's
events are immaculate, they're amazing. They are not there. I
ain't gonna say professional, but professionals are there. If that
makes you and we know how to act when we professionals,

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we gonna we might drink and laugh a little harder,
you know what I'm saying. That's only because we got
a little It just goofies you up a little bit more.
But it's amazing. It's a safe space. And I really
don't feel like people realize the emotional and mental stress
that teachers indoor Robert on the daily. And let me

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put it out there, it's not always you cheering. Well
be clear, you know some of them are mass to
wing on wing, gonna you know, eliminate them. But not
having to be a teacher for a little bit, you
know what I'm saying not having to worry about the
cares or the stresses of how a parents feel or
appearance opinion that could be negative because.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
You know little Johnny and little Susie more than we do.

Speaker 1 (01:19:16):
And then you get to the schoolhouse and you add
like little Johnnyle sus the angel, and you know what
the hell they her?

Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
Baby, this is not Johnny's and Susan the first time
displaying this behavior. They've been doing this, you know. But anyway,
as teachers, I feel like we have so many roles.
We are parents when we don't want to be family members, counselors, nurses, confidants, siblings.

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
We just have a lot of roles.

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
And I feel like the teacher's lounge has been an
amazing safe space for us, especially for teachers that don't
do much, Teachers that don't do much, but when they
have a little time to get out and have a
little like I just feel like it's amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
So it's a.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
Beautiful thing and I'm grateful to know, yes, to be
a maybe not a fanser. Man, you you ain't telling
me nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
Listen nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
He can't tell me nothing anyway, So listen, do you
have anything you want to add to.

Speaker 3 (01:20:23):
That, well, I would just like to say I appreciate
everyone who has come to the event so far, and
I truly believe like you said, like once we get
the word out, I definitely like feel like the people
will come. But just remember, as an educator that you
are loved, you are cared for, no matter what it
looks like, like we appreciate you. And that's coming from

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another two educators. We appreciate what you're doing because I
feel like in the in the generation we're in now,
the times we're in now, we're not getting that at all.
It's all like you didne did this? You didn't, did
you done did this? So it's like backlash almost so
like why are you a teacher? But we're a teaching
because we love kids and we love helping kids and

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doing what we do. But you are loved and appreciated
that part.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
And like I said earlier, it's not the income, it's
the outcomes and the outcomes what we see from the babies.
So please know that and believe that and understand you know,
it's a lot that comes.

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
Along with being an educator.

Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
But again I can't put emphasis on the appreciation we
have for the teachers lounge because.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
I've kind of scaled back on my night life, like
I'm a little put up. I mean a white's almost
five years, but last couple year I'm just like, okay,
I need to sit down. But my teacher's lounge experies
are always the best.

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
Although they're free.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
I know that's something that as an educator personally, we
wouldn't mind investing because that is amazing. So if you
charge us at the door, whatever you start doing, we
coming because we like my people. Well I already know
my friends said last time, she's like, so you sure
here on charge? And I was like, hell for people
to charge, you have had to pay the no you're
asking me after the event because she had That's how

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good of a time she had. And I have one
that's coaching church. Got a chair, remember came in with
start baby. Now I don't know one outside of the
church house. Baby. My friends sat down ate her little
drink color water and say, yes, baby, I don't know
she was having for the latter having time, but she

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had a time. I'm excited.

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
So I love that for you, and I love.

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
That you're projecting that you're merging that into the atmosphere
because we needed so listen.

Speaker 3 (01:22:42):
I do got another question. I think this is my
last question about the education part.

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
And then we're gonna go to something else.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
But do you feel pressure to meet certain expectations as
a black male educated? And I'm just gonna say, yeah,
I had the pressure on them because it's not it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:23:04):
And I'm even gonna go back to college. I remember
I was the only black male in my group that
I graduated with, and it was I think like twelve
thirteen of us, And it was hard because there was
some questions that were asked that I was just like,
is it because I'm black that you asking this? Right?

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That part? But also I felt like I had to
go the extra mile because I was black and I
was a male, and I felt like, because I mean,
we make up less than what two percent of the
education population, I just felt like, Okay, I need to
do more. And that gets stressful untiring after a while,

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because it's like, why should I have to do more
if we're all doing the same thing, you know. And
it's even even when I first got my first job teaching,
like I'm thankful, but it was hard, Like I feel
like every year. I always had those kids that was
like you getting him because you're a black man. You
know how to discipline, ma'am, I know how to you know.

Speaker 1 (01:24:11):
Get them study.

Speaker 3 (01:24:13):
That's what I'm saying. Like every year it seemed like that,
and I was just like, oh, you know, you get
burned out really quickly with that. And it's hard being
a black because I always say we are a unicorn
in this education field. But I'm just like, you know,
it's hard. It's definitely hard because there's these expectations that
because you are a male, because you are black, that

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you need to deal with discipline, You need to deal
with the kids that are acting the food. You need
to you know, be like the macho man when things
go down, and it's like, can I just be human?
Can I just be a teacher? You know? You know,
So it's it's been it's been a hard riding. And
what's I think, what's more like just like dang because

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they're or not. There's not a lot of men that
go into elementary education period.

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
It's going to because.

Speaker 3 (01:25:10):
I even remember like being in my program, we have
to take like a PE class teaching elementary PE. All
of the men were like, oh, I'm going to middle school,
I'm going to high school. Then here I am. I'm like, well,
I want to do elementary and they were like, no,
you don't think I think you want to do elementary.
And I'm like, no, I want to because I feel
like elementary is the foundation it is for their education career,

(01:25:32):
you know. And so I mean it's tough because literally,
like my whole career, I've been teaching six years. I
as far as like classroom teacher, I've had like one
to two other males that were classroom teachers. One of
them was white and then the other one was black.
And I've been teaching six years.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
So I'm just like, so, just that's like literally an example.

Speaker 3 (01:25:58):
Literally literally, yeah, I think because I'm with you, because
there's not a high percentage of African American male educators.

Speaker 2 (01:26:08):
The ones that do.

Speaker 1 (01:26:09):
Choose education are held to a higher standard. Like you said,
they're the ones that some admin and I'm you know,
to each his.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
Own if the shift it's put it on, but.

Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
Some admin like, oh he's black, he can deal with
this problemiz, especially if it's a child that's been causing
issues years before, they know where to put them, and
that bothers me, but to me, I feel like it's
a blessing because with that challenge, I feel like you
all just take it, like just out, you just take it.
And then I also feel like it's imperative for young

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black boys to see black educated men that looks like them.
You know what I'm saying, The representation it matters, So
thank you for your service.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
I remember being I went to Booker T.

Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
Washington Elementary in the South end of Little Ark, Arkansas
from nine eighty nine to ninety six, and my kindergarten
teacher was black. First grade teacher was black, second grade
teacher was black, third grade teacher was white. Fourth grade
teacher was white. And then I didn't realize the difference

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in culture because I had been rooted and raised in
so much richness.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
And love and teachers that saw my potential.

Speaker 1 (01:27:27):
And then I get to third grade to this lady
that's all of a sudden mean to me, you know
what I'm saying, for no reason, like, oh, it was bad,
and I didn't realize that. I've learned realized later from
that experience. And then fourth grade to another white teacher, Ms.
Clark and Miss Callaway.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
I'm telling I don't care.

Speaker 1 (01:27:46):
Y'all was mean as hell, and now I feel like
it was racism. I feel like y'all was wearing some
hoods in the background. But I'm saying that to say
that was third and fourth grade. I got to fifth grade.
Tommy Walker my most favorite teacher in the world, and
that was the teacher that literally solidified for me, education

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is your calling, this is gonna be doing It's Hunter.
Hunter is my maiden name, so this and I still
have contact with him to this day. Like his wife
was my college as teacher in high school. Like how
crazy is it? But anyway, it was a black male
teacher that influenced and inspired a black girl. So I
can image the inspiration that y'all have on the boys

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and if if it's not for them to be a.

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
Teacher, it's for them to let to know.

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
You can get a higher education too, Like you can
be a professional too when you become an adult.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
So thank you for your public service.

Speaker 3 (01:28:44):
Public that's what.

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
People don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:28:45):
Baby.

Speaker 1 (01:28:45):
We put and we can it's free because we still
got to pay for these ugly loans. But some of
our friends, ugly tails got that to pay for. I'm
just trusting the lord to do some of mine public
service words.

Speaker 3 (01:29:05):
But even to piggy piggyback off of that, Like for
me it was the opposite. So like I was in elementary,
white teacher, kindergarten, white teacher, first, second, third, fourth, fifth,
sixth grade, hits, I get a black teacher. And when
I say, she instilled in me the most important things
of life, like to this day were still keep in contact.

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And she was like, Robert, I'm so glad you became
a teacher because she taught me so much before I
hit middle school. Like the impact, like you said, the
impact that that we that that they make on us.
You know, representation matters, It matters, It matters, It matters.

Speaker 1 (01:29:50):
That I wish I could just keep on with this
little head. Okay, So I'm going to ask a couple
of persons. Yeah, yeah, one of them, what is it
that you like to do for.

Speaker 2 (01:30:03):
Fun as a human?

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
And yes, yes, So I love traveling.

Speaker 3 (01:30:11):
That's my thing. Oh I love it. Like anytime I
say anytime I can travel, I love traveling. Crazy thing
is though I hate flying. I hate it. No, dude,
I'm always like my friends like chill out, like.

Speaker 1 (01:30:28):
My husband always like I'm get your little lunge in
your system, get flight.

Speaker 3 (01:30:35):
But I love traveling. So anytime I can just and
even if it's like within Arkansas just to give away,
I love it. That's like my moment to just disconnect
from the world enjoy what I'm doing. I also love
art museums Arkansas. I just went probably a month ago,

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doing spring break.

Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:59):
Like everywhere I go. We try, Like me and my friends,
we always try to go to art museum because they
know like that he's gonna fall in love with it.
I love art and just creativity and just traveling. Also
love playing the piano. That's my other thing that I do.
I love just just muddling around in my apartment and

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everything and just just enjoying life for you.

Speaker 1 (01:31:26):
I love that for you. I'm an avid traveler. I
love traveling.

Speaker 2 (01:31:31):
I try not to well this last year.

Speaker 1 (01:31:34):
I'm gonna say I've been preserving time because I know
my daughter is gonna be out of state soon, so
I'm gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:31:40):
You know he is.

Speaker 1 (01:31:43):
But I love traveling. Yes, that's my ZIM moment. Traveling
and reality TV, right ma, I can send me down
and watch they tea. Really, I ain't got that much foolishness.
So those are my ZIM moments. Okay, last, but certainly
not least. Yes, and I'm a little sad, but I'm

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gonna go ahead and let you kind of talk. Just
advertised it for a quick sake. What do you have
special coming? He said, going.

Speaker 3 (01:32:18):
So, the Teacher's Lounge is hitting Memphis, which I'm excited about.
I guess friends there. I'm working with a guy who
his name is Jesse. Jesse Events promotes mostly all the nice,
high quality events in Memphis. I reached out to him,
was like, let's do a Teacher's Lounge event, and he
was like, got it. Got it. So June twelfth and

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Piking West from six to ten pm and Memphis, Tennessee,
the Teacher's Lounge will be popping. We got a good DJ,
a good bartender. We're gonna have music, good food, all
the above. And then we're also so I've decided to
do a vendor at our gentle is doing like a

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vendor fest, so I will be out there with the
teachers Lounge. We're gonna have like an email where you
can sign up to join our email list to know
about events, to hear about what we stand for, what
we're doing where we see ourselves in the future. So
come out. We're gonna have teacher t shirts, lanyards, door pride,

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gift frizes and all that, and then get gearing up
for next year. Gearing up for next year because we're
gonna do some good events for next year.

Speaker 1 (01:33:35):
And I'm excited because the events now good and I'm
coming to the teachers lounge stuff and we gonna a
teachers lounge something school district teach. Yes, and y'all better
come out to tell my people know they better comm
it's gonna be a problem. So thank you so much.
This is an amazing episode. Our time is up. We're

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gonna do a part two, let me know, got you,
But until then, this is our spill trend encouragement, our
spill encouragement time. Rather, Matthew five sixteen tells us to
let our lights so shine before me and so that
may see your good works and glorify our Father, which
is in heaven. Spellers, our light comes from God and

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God alone. Man did not give it to us, and
guess what, man can't take it away. So instead of
us dimming our lights doing things that will not glorify
God or build our character. Tap into your gifts, master them,
share them, and shine before men. Remember, your gifts may
not be the same or similar to others. In fact,

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it may be totally different, and that is absolutely okay
because that's your opportunity to shine even brighter. Shine, Spillers, Shine,
I love y'all and until next time, spellers, this is
your girl, Missus Wilson and mister Jones, period and we

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are signing out so