April 24, 2025 • 50 mins
What invisible forces are causing you to present a version of yourself that isn't authentic? In this deeply reflective conversation, we examine the powerful influence of perceived judgment on our behavior, revealing how the stories we create about others' thoughts dramatically shift our own actions.
Most of us have changed our behavior because we believed others would judge us negatively, only to discover those perceptions were entirely fictional. This fear-based approach to relationships causes us to carry emotional baggage that isn't even ours, resulting in a heaviness that drags down our energy and authenticity.
The monkey mind creates elaborate scenarios about what might happen if we showed our true selves, building fictional narratives that keep us small and inauthentic. We examine a powerful remedy for this pattern: simply asking people what they really think instead of assuming their judgment. This direct approach often reveals that our fears were unfounded, as others typically don't care nearly as much as we imagined.
Journaling emerges as a transformative practice for those not ready to have direct conversations. By writing down your fears and exploring why you believe others will judge you, you can begin dismantling these limiting beliefs. Your emotional guidance system provides immediate feedback - feeling heavy when operating from fear, light and free when embracing authenticity.
What would happen if you gave yourself permission to be exactly who you are? The liberation of authenticity creates an energetic lightness that many describe as life-changing. Your reality today was created from yesterday's beliefs, which means changing your beliefs today creates a different reality tomorrow. This simple but profound perspective shift offers a pathway to freedom that begins with recognizing the fictional stories controlling your behavior.
Ready to drop the weight of others' imagined opinions? Join us on this journey to authenticity where we learn to test our assumptions, trust our emotional guidance, and reclaim the freedom to be unapologetically ourselves.
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Thank you.
Guess what, dr Jenny?
What?
We're back in studio for theSpiritual Grind doing another
podcast.
We only did one last week.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Really.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Wow, we need a spanking.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
And then we only did two, and then before that we
didn't do any because we were onvacation.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
We got to get back in the groove, man we do.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
But this will be the second one this week.
No, this will be the first onethis week, but anyway, welcome
back to the Spiritual Grind.
Everybody, we are planninglife's version of things out,
and my topic today is prettysimple because, let's say it's
simple, it's something that Isee in a lot of people in our
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environment, including ourselves, and it's you know, we
generally on here we'll talkabout stuff that we're working
through.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
And the thing, one of the things that has been
popping into my reality is notallowing my human monkey mind
thoughts to control how I actand be, because you know like,
for example, are you being your,am I being myself or am I
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changing away from myselfbecause of what I think people
will think or societal topbeliefs?
Yeah, and you know, I see peoplechange their persona every day
based on societal beliefs andfears of what people will think
or do or say or be.
You know, and we see this a lot, you know, and I think one of
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the things that I see, you know,one of the things that come to
mind, is like, for example, whenI was younger, I had a friend
that was way different, you cantell he was a different kind of
guy than the norm and he wasperceived as homosexual, but he
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wasn't just because of his kindof feminine nature, he was just
kind of that feminine guy, um,and so he started to put on this
big man persona and changebecause he was fearful of what
people and how how people weretreating him.
And you know this is kind ofone.
You know that's kind of a majorexample, but there are minor
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things that we change and doevery day because of a fear of
what people will think or say tous.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Right, or what you touched on.
Most often that I see that'shappening is not what people
will think of us, but thestoryline that we have created
in our head of what we thinkthey think, or what we think
will happen.
What we think, they think.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, yeah, I agree Of us and so.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
And so, when you look at that, these are the
questions I would ask.
Have I talked to that personRight To see if that's what they
think?
That's one of the best ways tosquash.
Or why do I think that they willthink that Right, well, that
would be number one and twoquestion, as I'm researching
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that for myself, is have Italked to them?
What do they really think Right, so I can squash the monkey
mind?
Lie, yeah, and then yes, yes.
Another good question would bewhy do I think they think that?
Is it because of some previouscircumstance or event that I've
experienced where that was true,and now I've clumped everybody
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together and the whole wideworld thinks that and that.
And that is a lie as well, andit will cause you to create a
reality and function within thatreality in not a true,
authentic way.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Right, you know, I have a family member, that's.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Why did this come up for you?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Well, about a couple of things.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
What happened.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Well, there's just the point in our life where we
are of going through what we'regoing through here and me
presenting that and and andthinking that they're going to
think that I'm crazy.
You know, that's when allreality is, is it's obvious
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what's going on?
And so when I present like whenI was, when I presented it to
the superiors, I was moreconcerned about what they
thought of me than I was justgetting the truth out.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Why?
What were you afraid wouldhappen?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Don't really know.
That's where I'm kind of stuck.
Actually Don't really know whatthe fear is.
I'm looking at it and trying tofigure it out.
Why did I alter who I am?
Because I know for what.
I know what the fear is.
I'm looking at it and trying tofigure it out, or what that.
Why did I alter who I am and mynote?
Because I know for what.
I know what I know, but forsome reason I just won't.
I would not be staunch about itand like yesterday, you know,
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we talked about being firm orstaunch about things and he's
like we're just not staunchpeople and I don't necessarily
agree with that firmly.
But I have altered who I amwithin a human issue because of
what I think that other peoplewill think and I don't like that
.
I don't like being that person.
I want to be who I am and Iwant to do me, so to speak.
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I want to do me and when Ialter my presence due to a
thought or idea or expectationof how people are going to react
that's not a good perception.
That's not a good place to be in, especially afterwards when you
get done, you're like why did Ido that?
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Hey, yeah, good morning.
Good morning, how are that?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Good morning.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Good morning.
How are you Good?
How was your coffee thismorning?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
We didn't tell everybody good morning.
Oh, we went right into it, man,we just dabbed right in.
Oh sorry.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I've been waiting.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
No, it's all good, I just wanted to tell everybody
good morning.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Good morning, well, I think it's pent-up energy
because we haven't done apodcast.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, maybe.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
And I have a few subjects in my mind and this one
hit me in the shower again andI was like why didn't I just
handle this differently andtrying to figure out why I
altered my presence?
And I don't like doing that,because I see people do it all
the time.
Like you know, I have a familymember and this is a common
topic, that is, in the spiritualworld.
I think it's a common topicamongst many different
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parameters, where people willalter who they are because of
what people think or say.
And you know, I have a familymember that was homosexual all
his life, when everybody knew hewas homosexual but he did not
admit it.
And then, finally, when he didadmit it, I asked him one day
why did you wait?
Everybody already knew.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
What is this homosexual thing coming up?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Why do you?
Speaker 2 (07:14):
keep using that as an example?
Are you trying to tell mesomething?
Speaker 1 (07:19):
No See, that's exactly what that's a judgment
statement.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
No way, yeah, you are .
That's a judgment statement.
Wow, chill, dude, I'm not, Iwas just playing Well.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I'm not Like take it easy, but anyway.
So this scenario when I askedwhy did you wait so long?
Everybody already knew he said,well, it just wasn't okay and
it was.
It was kind of like a thought,and these are the thoughts I'm
having in the shower, I don'tknow why.
These are the topics thatthey're popping in my head and
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the subjects I don't know, butit is a um.
Yeah, I see it a lot when peoplethis, where they change who
they are due to the fear of aperception of what everybody's
going to think.
So how do we handle thatsituation?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Well, as you well witnessed, it's going to be a
case-by-case scenario on wherethe person is and where they are
wanting to go with it and whatthey can actually be open and
receptive to hear and to handle.
I mean, you kind of just got toevaluate each individual
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situation.
You obviously are not at apoint where we can joke about
some topic like that for you,because you got very defensive
about whatever, you got verydefensive about whatever, and so
then you're immediatelyconstricted and not open to
being able to really hearanything about it and you put up
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a barrier.
So it just depends on case bycase where you're at.
And so if we speak verygenerally about the topic of
changing who you are based onwhat you think other people
think or based on what youwitness other people commenting
about, it would be the topicthat we talk about just in
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general.
Is that what you're wanting todo?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Is that where, I guess I'm just trying to get?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
clarity on where you're wanting to go with this.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
It is wherever it goes.
I'm not trying to get clarityon where you're wanting to go
with this.
It is wherever it goes.
I'm not trying to direct it.
I'm just trying to give it anopen forum of nonjudgmental talk
that people can be free to bewho they are and be honest about
it and be open about it,without the perceived thoughts
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of what people are going to sayor do to them.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
So let's first clarify what it is exactly when
you say it.
What are you?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
talking about.
It can be any subject, it canbe anything.
Well, the most common one isthat I can think of off the top
of my head, that's just recentlyis one of our constituents
constituents what is that?
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That uh, that uh, um, isobviously putting a front of who
he really is, putting out afront and not being honest
because of the judgment thatpeople will put out there.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
So why do you care what he's doing?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
I just, I just was seeing it, it's just an
observation that I made, andthat is what I'm talking about.
Is they alter who they are andnot being true to themselves or
others and being honest about itdue to the fact of what people
will think, do or say?
I see, and you know it's a, it'sa common topic in.
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You know, you asked about theum why I was using the
homosexual examples, and that is.
You know, that's the number onething.
You know.
You like, we watched thatRuPaul drag race and on there
they would talk about how theywouldn't come out because of
what their parents would think,or blah, blah, blah, blah.
And then when they do come outthey find out their parents
really didn't care, and sothat's why that topic comes into
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play.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I see.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
And so where?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
do we?
Are you or where do I'm lettingyou have the floor, man, I'm
letting you.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Well, this is Dr Jenny too here.
What's going on?
You're just like shut down overthere over a situation that
happened.
Whoa chill, I'm not shut down.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I'm letting you talk it through and get to the place
where you're trying to get Okay.
So how do you work yourselfthrough it?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I'm, I'm still working through this scenario.
I'm it's not that I'm bringing,I don't.
I have no answers.
I I'm because all I'm doing istrying.
I'm trying to set it up towhere, um, I can work through
the process of being who I amwhen it comes to the scenario
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that we're dealing with.
Why did I alter off of who I amand be more worried about what
they're going to think, insteadof just putting the facts out on
the table?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Okay.
So if we go deep and we go allthe way to the core of that kind
of behavior that people arehaving, it is all culminated
into one word it's a fear-basedprogram.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
It's the fear that somebody's gonna think something
.
It's a fear that we're gonnalose something such as our job,
our relationship.
It's a fear that we're gonnareceive negative consequences or
get reprimanded.
It is a fear that we moreuncomfortable to experience pain
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and pleasure than what it is tojust hide it and pretend like
I'm somebody else.
Now that's the core issue.
It's fear-based.
Then we come up a level andbegin to research and dig around
.
What are the layers that we'velaid on top of that core belief?
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What is the soil that we'velaid on top of that seed that's
growing?
And for each individual thoselayers are going to look a
little bit differently.
And you brought up thehomosexual idea.
And so if we go on that topicbecause, like you said, there's
many topics that this happens init all basically boils down to
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the same kind of characteristictraits.
If I'm afraid that people aregoing to not like me anymore or
not accept me into the tribe, orI'm going to lose my job, or
I'm going to lose my socialnetwork because I divulge that I
have a sexual preference that'sopposite of what the societal
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gender requirement is, the fearis is that I'm not, I'm going to
be alone, I'm not going to haveany social network.
There's nobody out there thathas the same thought that I do,
and there's no other socialnetwork.
That is my tribe, so to speak.
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But it's kind of that way on anytopic.
It's a fear of losing somethingthat you currently have because
those people won't see it thesame way.
Or it's a fear of being madefun of or being judged or being
chastised for behaving in such amanner.
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Or it's a fear of maybe losingyour job because you've brought
something to the table that youthink the company is not going
to be open to or that your bossis not going to be open to.
It's just fear based.
It's fear based, and so youwork through that, just like you
do anything else.
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You do what I just did, which isto acknowledge that it's fear
based, and I'm a journaler man,so I'm always going to say get
your journal out, write down the, the, the, the fear.
It's fear.
Then take the topic homosexual.
Okay, what am I afraid willhappen?
If I am experiencing life andmy true, authentic way of
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desiring a different gender inmy life and wanting to dress in
the opposite gender way, what amI afraid is going to happen?
And write down worst casescenario.
And if it's like, if one of thestatements is I'm afraid that
people are going to think badabout me, okay, what can you do
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about that?
Well, you can do one of twothings.
You can take on the notion ofso what?
I don't care what people thinkI'm going to be, who I am, and
if they have a problem with it,if they're offended, it's their
beliefs, patterns and programsthey have to work on, and
perhaps that's not the person Iwant to hang out with.
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Or you can go on anexperimental journey and you go
to that person and you sharewith them.
Listen, I am homosexual and I'mjust curious.
I'm doing an experiment and Iwant to interview you on what do
you think about me, knowingthat I am that?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
because, I'm.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
You know, you can play a game with it.
Or, if it's a closer familymember, just come to a place and
say hey, I'm homosexual.
I've been hiding it because I'mafraid you think that I am some
negative something.
And so what do you really think?
And be completely honest withme.
That way you get to decide whatyou want to be and do in it.
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They get to decide what theywant to be doing it and trusting
that, it's going to feel reallygood to be able to get rid of
that baggage that you're totingaround.
Because you may find, just likeyou said, the parents didn't
really care, but that individualwas creating this story, that
they did care, and the storythen grew from there that not
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only do they care, but they'regoing to disown me and out me
and I'm not going to get to be apart of the family anymore.
And the story just went on andon and on and the findings were
that he was creating a storythat was an absolute lie.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Well, you see with me , what I've identified in this
perception of what we aredealing with here is, I asked
myself why did I alter who I amin explaining this?
And my only answer was becauseit would change the way they
view us.
And the reality is, I don'treally know how they view us,
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and so I've created the story inmy head of how they view us.
And so then I have a fear oflosing this idea that's in my
head that I have created that Ireally don't know how we're
viewed, right, and.
But I have a fear of losingthat when I really don't even
know if it's true.
So do I really have it in thefirst place?
Right, and that's where.
But getting to the point of thewhy.
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But why did I allow myself tocreate this story where I feel
like that, when I tell themwhat's going on or whatever,
that it changes how they view us, when I don't even know for
sure how they view us?
And so I'm getting to the pointof the why.
Why did I create what I feellike that they viewed us as
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prior to this, when I don't evenknow if it's true?
And so I'm at the point of why.
Why did I create the fictitiousstory in my head?
That that's not proven.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Well, sometimes we create a fictitious story
because that is a form of goalsetting, it's a form of
daydreaming, it's a form ofcreating a reality and then
moving towards that goal.
And so sometimes it is apositive thing If you create and
I'm going to just use us for anexample, and I'm going to just
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use us for an example, if wecreate this thought that we are
seen, as you know, the numberone managers in the company and
we do all of these wonderfulthings and some of them maybe
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have not even come to fruition.
That's a form of holographicdaydreaming, so to speak, of
goal setting.
And so then what?
Because the best way that itworks when you're creating your
reality or aligning with areality that you've put into
existence, is daydreamingyourself there, without an
expectation and an insistencethat it must turn out that way.
And what we teach is talk aboutwhat you want it to look like
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and how you've daydreamed thatit looks like, so that you can
better come in alignment withthat right, right.
And so if you're creating astory of you know what we beat
all of our numbers.
We are number one in thecompany when it comes to all of
the statistical numbers.
We're 100%.
That's just you verballyputting yourself in a frequency
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that aligns with that realitythat you want, and there's
nothing wrong with that.
There's absolutely aligns withthat reality that you want and
there's nothing wrong with that.
There's absolutely nothingwrong with that, unless you take
it in the direction that youtook it, which is okay.
So I've had this thing happen,and if I share the trueness of
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exactly all of the intricatedetails of what happened, then
this perspective that I'vecreated, that I think they see
me as, will be modified in sucha way that I will have to
experience negative results ofthat.
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And so then you'll modify howyou tell the story or how you
give the information to them sothat you don't change that,
because you're afraid of apotential consequence that you
might experience by giving allthe details or telling what's
actually happening fully andcompletely.
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You'll leave out details oromit information or not talk
about it at all, not tell at all.
And that happens in any kind ofrelationship, whether it be
work relationships, personalrelationships, friends, whatever
.
That's how that kind of comesabout.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Okay, makes sense, it does.
Yeah, the parameters withinthat I have been operating
within are based on myperception of an assumed
perception, and that is not acorrect way of operating through
life.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
It's not that it's not correct.
It's okay to daydream it's justnot okay to then modify how you
naturally would be based onthat holographic daydream,
especially if it causes you notto be open and honest, and
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that's what you're wanting to be.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Yes, Okay, I get it.
And the perception of it likeour example that we're talking
about.
I use those a lot.
When I say and do the thingslike the examples you've made,
like we're the number onemanagers in the company, yada,
yada.
When I say and do the thingslike the examples you've made,
like we're the number onemanagers in the company, yada,
yada, that is for me more ofputting the energy out there,
because I know what you put out,you get out and it's about
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intention setting.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Right, exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Even though I have been told by our former previous
superior that we are anomalies.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
And that we're looked at very highly by the company
for sure.
But before we openly got tothat place, you and I would
write our story verbally to eachother, that way to generate
that energy, to embrace thatfrequency, finding what that
feels like so that we can alignwith that reality, because
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that's something that we wantedto happen.
And so you kind of it's almostlike giving yourself permission
not to really face realitybecause reality is old news.
I got to go rabbit hole forjust a second.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Okay, so the rabbit hole of all of this is the
actual reality that you sit hereand you're looking at was
created based on the beliefs youused to have, maybe two minutes
ago, maybe two days agowhatever this reality right now
that we're living in was createdin the history Right it was
created from the frequency ofwhat you previously were
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experiencing or the beliefs thatyou were running.
You previously were experiencingor the beliefs that you were
running.
The minute you change a beliefpattern, program or you change
your perception that reality isa whole new reality that you can
choose to line up with or not.
And so it is perfectly okay totalk about the things that you
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want to see come into the newreality and not face reality,
the current reality that you'rein, because it's old news, it's
the manifestation of what youused to see and believe.
And so when we, when I say Inever faced reality, that's what
I mean when I say I never facereality, that's what I mean.
Like the current situation I'msitting in, whatever it may be,
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I don't give a lot of focus tothat.
Now, I'm human, so there'stimes when I have meltdowns if
it's not comfortable, but I haveto remind myself this is
already done.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
It's already over.
What did you say I?
Speaker 2 (25:33):
have to remind myself that this is already done and
this is going to pass, and thatwhat I'm creating is the new
reality coming my way.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
And so it's not like you're telling yourself a lie.
It's not like you're saying alie when you like.
For instance, you and I havingthose conversations in the past
of you, know we're 100%, we'rethe top managers in the building
, when we would have thatconversation amongst us.
And the reason we had itbetween the two of us in the
beginning is because when you'resharing it with other people
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and it's not the reality, theysee it can appear like you're
lying and nobody likes theenergy of that Right.
So you can talk with yourpartner or a good friend or
write it down on a piece ofpaper the reality that your goal
, your plan to align with onpiece of paper, defining exactly
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what you want it to look like.
It's no different than tellingthat story and becoming that
verbally.
Yeah, I agree, so that's, allthat's happening and it's not a
bad thing to do.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Right, and so that's why we've got to kind of do a
little plot twist with peoplethat are listening so they will
understand more that you have togive yourself the permission to
be who you are and act the wayyou want to act within your own
beliefs with when you have afear that pops up with that's
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causing a bump up against place.
Stop and look at this storybehind it.
We know, like I have, anexample of a gentleman that is a
military vet, very proud,decorated vet of the military,
but because of the war it was in, he hides it.
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Oh cause, he's embarrassed ofthe right of the actions that he
caused because of causedbecause of a perception that he
thinks that everybody will viewof him.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Oh, I see.
Yeah, it's very common.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
It is.
It's a big deal and peoplealter their lives every day
because of it.
And it can be a domino effectof repercussions and perceptions
that change and becomingaligned with you who you are.
No matter what your history is,remember your history.
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They say your history defineswho you are.
I don't believe that.
I believe that your beliefsthat you carry right now define
who you're going to become andwhen you have a history of.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Your history can define who you are, if you
choose to bring that historywith you into your new reality.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
I agree with that.
But I'm talking about for thecommon person that that doesn't
identify, that like when thisparticular gentleman.
He doesn't identify withspiritual beliefs or any of that
kind of stuff.
He just believes that what hedid was so embarrassing and the
way he got treated when he cameback home.
He is embarrassed to tellpeople, you know that that he's
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this decorated war veteran fromthe vietnam war and because of
what he thinks people are goingto think, do and say to him and
like I told him is, you don'tknow until you ask, and so
that's where I was going.
Next, and this is why I usethis example is I told him have
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you even asked anybody?
You know what they think of it.
You know, go talk to one of thefellow veterans that were in
that war and see what they think.
Right, you know, give yourselfthe permission to ask questions
to create a different perceptionof the story.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
And that's kind of where I'm at with this stuff in
the shower this morning.
I was thinking is is where do Ineed to identify this at and
why?
Why did I allow myself tocreate this version in my head?
And that's where it is.
Is it comes from a fear?
It comes from maybe formerhistory Right, how people react.
(29:50):
It comes from monkey mind.
It comes from many differentthings and it can come from
other people's monkey minds andthat creates a reality or an
environment that causes you toalter who you are.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Or how you behave.
Or how you behave, yeah, I getall the time I have people come
up to me and say you're such aninspiration because you just do
and dress and be whatever.
And I just wish I could be thatway, and I do.
I mean, I'll put on, I'll wearsome of the craziest ass shit,
(30:28):
I'll do some crazy shit to myhair, I'll just do whatever and
and I I don't ever, for the mostpart I don't.
There are topics you and I I dothat.
With that I still am a work inprogress, yeah, but for the most
part I just do me in it.
(30:51):
And when you practice thathabit and you get to a place,
it's very freeing, and then itjust becomes a new habit and so
you just, you know, hey,whatever.
Because I remember a time whenI would dress a certain way to
be accepted into a group orlaugh at something I didn't find
(31:13):
funny, or you know, I would docertain things that were not
authentic and I just kind of Icame to that place, that place
of where you're at, and I'm likeI'm going to just do me,
because that feels right, itfeels better, because when I
would behave in ways that werenot authentic.
I would check in with myemotional guidance system, egs,
(31:39):
and I would feel yucky for doingit Right.
It wouldn't even be pleasurable.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
And I find myself holding back.
Yeah, like there's a certainsituation right now in our work
environment that you know aboutthat, I want to go up on the
roof and scream on themountaintop that this person
that's in our reality is acomplete and utter liar.
Yeah, and I wouldn't telleverybody right and I hold
myself back because it's not mywell.
(32:06):
There's many differentparameters, but I think the main
thing is it's not my job tochange that person's reality and
not my job to expose.
Well, the reality is that youcan't change their reality
necessarily.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
But if it doesn't feel like it's again, you go
back to your EGS emotionalguidance system, and if it
doesn't feel right to do that,then it's not time to do that,
right?
I?
Speaker 1 (32:34):
agree, and it may not be a time to do it at all.
It may not ever be.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Because if you're doing things like that from an
angry place, or a revengefulplace and not from a guided
place of.
I know this is the right thingto do.
It will feel much different.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
And I'll give you an example.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
We had an employee that Performed an act, and I am
not generally a manager whoenjoys or gets any enjoyment out
of having to relieve somebodyof their job duties while they
work under me.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Yeah, we don't like to change anybody's reality.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
We're very much giving people a chance to learn
and grow, and so we don't tendto be canners.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yeah, or the staunch managers.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
But I recently had this experience where I had to
make that decision and because Iknew spiritually that it was
time for her to go on adifferent journey, because I
checked in with it and our thisis kind of rabbit hole and it's
(33:53):
a little bit advanced, ourinteraction of why we really
came together in the guise of orin the perception of she came
here to work for me.
That was the kind of surfaceidea, but the underlying idea
spiritually was that we had acontractual agreement that I was
(34:18):
going to play a character shewas going to learn and grow from
, was going to learn and growfrom and because of that and my
understanding of that level ofwhat's going on, I was
completely at peace on myemotional guidance system of and
it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Well, it was obviously a divine flow, because
the actions that took place.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
It wasn't a pleasant thing by any means.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
The actions that took place.
Her actions, your actions,everybody's actions were
obviously there for a reason,and that was like an obvious
thing because it was so off thewall and so crazy that you
almost couldn't believe it.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Well, and what I'm saying is you know that you're
doing what you're doing, even ifit looks like or feels like,
you know gosh.
I hate that this is having togo on.
I don't know, I don't Wow, whatwas that?
That's all folks.
I don't necessarily enjoydismissing people under my
(35:24):
command, so to speak.
That's not something that'senjoyable.
I don't get pleasure out ofthat.
But what I know is that, inthis particular situation, I
checked in with it, as I do withall things, and I knew that
this decision was the decision.
(35:44):
And I knew that this decisionwas the decision and it was time
for me to follow through withreleasing this person from the
job.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Well, there was obviously your responsibility
because I had zero feelings init.
I was just kind of neutral inthe situation, yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
And so that's one of the ways that you will, as we
use us to teach people how doyou know when things are what
they are and how do you knowwhen they're not.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Right.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
So, for me, I knew that it was in mine and her
journey for me to play thischaracter of releasing her of
her holographic jobresponsibility.
Holographic job responsibilityand even though it was a little
bit of an unpleasant series inthe play, I knew that this was
the right decision and so,therefore, I didn't have guilt,
(36:33):
I didn't have yucky feelingswithin it, I was at peace with
the decision that I'd made.
There was no, I didn't do itfrom a place of resentment.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
I didn't do it from a place of anger.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
I didn't do it from a place of resentment, I didn't
do it from a place of anger, Ididn't do it from a place of any
other emotion, except I justknew that it was time and this
was our agreement.
And I moved forward because Ichecked in with my emotional
guidance system and I was atpeace with the decision.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Well, in humanly, the actions were against company
policy.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
And for you, knowing that it wasn't your cue card to
step up and play and it wasn'tyou that was supposed to do.
It comes from you checking inwith your emotional guidance
system and saying I'm neutral inthis.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah, I'm very neutral.
I was very neutral in it, itdoesn't.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
I don't get any kind of guidance on I should do it, I
shouldn't do it.
She can stay, she can go, andso there was no nudge
necessarily for you to go anydirection in it and that's how
you guys can know what partyou're playing in any of this.
Right, you check in with thatemotional guidance system and
(37:43):
don't make decisions from thoselower level vibrational
frequency emotions like anger,resentment.
You know, check in with it, setwith it and when you know it's
the right thing, even if it'shaving to fire somebody, you'll
still feel at peace.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
You know.
I think another topic we needto carry on in this is how does
it feel when you do be yourself?
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
And how rewarding it can feel and how good it feels
on the inside, how releasing ofenergy it can be, how light,
yeah, light.
That's a good way.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
And free.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Light and airy to be who you are.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Yeah, when you release that baggage that's not
yours, then you.
So how it works is, if you havea topic and you've created this
mindset that other people thinkthis way, you've basically
taken on a piece of heavyluggage that's not even yours,
(38:41):
so you're carrying that around.
And when you're carrying arounda vibrational frequency that's
not yours, it is very heavy, andso the minute you come to a
place of awareness and thewillingness to release it, then
it aligns you back with yournatural frequency and you feel
very free, you feel very light,very airy, and it feels good.
(39:05):
Yeah, totally, it feels reallygood.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
You know, we as humans have this habit, a lot
that we do and we use it tomanipulate our own environment
and most of the time it'sinvoluntary and that is that
perceived story that we create.
Say more Say, for example, youknow, I was in a pretty terrible
marriage for a very long timeand because I perceived what
(39:34):
other people would think of meif I ended that relationship,
even though that relationshipwas done many years before I
actually left, I just continuedto put myself humanly into a
situation that was not happy,not healthy for anybody, because
of the stories that I thought,you know, people would create in
their own head.
And some of that has come true.
(39:56):
Those stories were created, butI felt so much better when I
just walked away.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
And what you came to, the realization, was that, even
though they created the stories, nothing bad happened to you,
correct?
Correct, because that's theother piece of it is whenever
we're creating this story, theway that that mechanism works,
called the monkey mind, is wecreate this story to keep
ourselves away from doing a?
(40:25):
Thing, that we think is goingto be worse than the situation
we're in right.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
They say the pain, yeah, the, when the pain of
getting out of it is greater, orthe pain of getting out of it
is, or the pain of staying in itis greater than the pain of
getting out of it.
That's when we start changingthings right, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
And so that mechanism , your monkey mind, will keep
creating little tidbits of storyof okay, well, if you do that,
what if it does this?
And what if it does that?
Oh my, god, this is gonnahappen and then it's gonna be
I'm, I'm gonna be all alone andI'm to be a social stigma and
nobody's going to want to eventouch me because I have some
(41:07):
contagious disease.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
And our monkey mind can be so.
Maximizing, yeah, but that's bydesign, you're right.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
The monkey mind is there to serve a purpose.
Create a big dramatic storyBecause, on a rabbit hole forum,
it's there to keep a realitycreated so that we can learn and
grow.
If we are living through thislife knowing that we are this
(41:37):
powerful being and that none ofthis is real, then we don't have
quite that authentic and thatvisceral experience on the human
level, and so, by design, ithas to continue to try and keep
itself as real as possible.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
I agree.
The monkey mind plays such abig part in this topic.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
It really does.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
And I think the message I want to give out in
our podcast today is givingpeople the permission to, if
they have this story created, toask why.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
And go communicate about it and ask you know, just
go ask somebody.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Yeah, and I would say that the other part of it is if
you're not there yet, if you'renot at a place where you can
actually go to that person andsay you know, hey, I want to
know what you think about this.
Then explore your own self.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Use that time when you've come to the aware place
that you know it's happening,you know that you're modifying
your true, authentic behavior.
Because you have thisunderlying fear of what people
are going to think or what'sgoing to happen and you're not
ready to really go and confrontthat person or those people you
(42:50):
can't really get there.
At least do some research onyourself and dig around in it.
Why am I afraid?
What am I afraid of?
What am I afraid that's goingto happen?
And research that and write itdown.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
And be prepared for your monkey mind to prove your
thoughts.
Because, like this happens,these kind of things will happen
where you may have one topicand you've created this
perceived story, and then youinteract with others and then
you hear them making judgmentalcomments or doing judgmental
things, and our monkey mind willtake that and say, see, I told
you so They'll go through thatissue.
(43:26):
You know, like our tattoos onour arm sleeves, we hear people
all the time oh my God, I wouldnever do that.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Oh well, then it leaves more ink for me, because
I love doing it.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Right, but our monkey mind takes that information and
feeds into saying but do youknow why it does that?
Speaker 2 (43:44):
No, would you like you know why it does that?
No, would you like to know why?
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
So the reality that we live in, that we've created,
if you can think about it thisway, it is basically a mirror
reflecting back to you whatyou're still hanging on to or
what you could still work on ifyou were wanting to continue to
work on something okay and soit's.
It's kind of a test of have Ilet that go?
(44:13):
What is the next thing I canwork on?
What is still?
What is it that I'm stillreflecting out to the universe
on a frequency level, and sothen it bounces that back to you
through your reality as kind ofa glitch in the channeling
(44:46):
Maria Maria.
As I channel the information,there sometimes are glitches.
Anyway, if you are actuallywanting to evolve and grow in
this topic, wanting to evolveand grow in this topic, the
reality that's in front of youwill reinforce what you're still
(45:09):
running.
The patterns, programs andbeliefs that you're still
running, Reflecting back to youwhat you're doing Right, and so
the example you gave is just theuniverse or the guide or
whoever you work with showingyou know, the universe or the
guide or whoever you work withshowing you that, hey, you still
have a bit of this that you'rerunning in your reality, and
(45:31):
that's why you're having peoplecome across your reality that
are still talking about, orwhatever you still have a little
bit of that belief runningaround, and so, if you choose to
, you might want to look at itand can you tell me?
put it in the trash.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Can you tell me what it means to have a splinter pop
up on your finger when youhaven't done any woodworking in
probably eight or 10 years?
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Of course.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Cause I have a splinter and it just popped up
on one of my fingers.
It's driving me insane and ithasn't.
I haven't touched a piece.
You know, did any woodworkingfor a very long time.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Yeah, it is representative or symbolic of a
belief that is ready to come tothe surface and come out.
That has been a burr in yoursaddle for quite a long time.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Interesting.
That's what a spender means,that's what.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
That's what a spender means.
That's what it's representativeof.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Yep, yep, yep.
Anyway, hey, I feel pretty good.
So, basically, before we endthis, I want to tell everybody
it's okay to be who you are,what you are and how you are,
and if you want to change yourreality, change your beliefs
right now and move forward.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
Right yeah, because whatever beliefs you're running
right now, whatever perceptionyou're running right now, is the
reality that you're creatingfor your tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Yes, totally agree with that statement.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
So the reality that you're witnessing today was
created from the beliefs thatyou had a while ago.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
A while ago.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
A while ago.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
A while ago.
A while ago.
A while ago.
Is that an animal Can I get?
A while ago.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
It's an animal.
Now it's encrypted.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
Welcome to McDonald's .
May I take your order please?
Can I get a while ago?
Speaker 2 (47:20):
What does a while ago look like?
Speaker 1 (47:22):
Can you McBiggie that ?
Speaker 2 (47:25):
I need a Mcgie wallago Can.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
I get a Biggie wallago.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
Yeah, and does that come equipped with a leash and
collar, because I would like tohave a lime green.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
I would like to have the pink wallago please yes.
Can I get a pink wallago with aleash?
Yes, I would like to be sizethat that's perfect.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
I'm gonna create a wall ago.
I'm gonna decide oh, I did thata while ago I'm gonna decide
what that looks like and I'mgonna put it on a shirt yeah,
there you go, I got a wall agoI'm to create a whole new
creature.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
This is my wall ago.
Ask me about it.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
What's your wall ago's name?
Speaker 1 (48:12):
Yesterday Would you help me name my wall ago.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
My wall ago's name is yesterday.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
My wall ago name was 10 minutes 10 minutes wall ago,
while ago name was 10 minutes 10minutes while ago.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
I also have one called five minutes five minutes
while ago.
Her brother's name is fiveminutes.
Five minutes while ago.
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Guess what, dr Jenny?
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We're back in studio for theSpiritual Grind doing another
podcast.
We only did one last week.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Really.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Wow, we need a spanking.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
And then we only did two, and then before that we
didn't do any because we were onvacation.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
We got to get back in the groove, man we do.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
But this will be the second one this week.
No, this will be the first onethis week, but anyway, welcome
back to the Spiritual Grind.
Everybody, we are planninglife's version of things out,
and my topic today is prettysimple because, let's say it's
simple, it's something that Isee in a lot of people in our
(01:10):
environment, including ourselves, and it's you know, we
generally on here we'll talkabout stuff that we're working
through.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
And the thing, one of the things that has been
popping into my reality is notallowing my human monkey mind
thoughts to control how I actand be, because you know like,
for example, are you being your,am I being myself or am I
(01:39):
changing away from myselfbecause of what I think people
will think or societal topbeliefs?
Yeah, and you know, I see peoplechange their persona every day
based on societal beliefs andfears of what people will think
or do or say or be.
You know, and we see this a lot, you know, and I think one of
(02:00):
the things that I see, you know,one of the things that come to
mind, is like, for example, whenI was younger, I had a friend
that was way different, you cantell he was a different kind of
guy than the norm and he wasperceived as homosexual, but he
(02:22):
wasn't just because of his kindof feminine nature, he was just
kind of that feminine guy, um,and so he started to put on this
big man persona and changebecause he was fearful of what
people and how how people weretreating him.
And you know this is kind ofone.
You know that's kind of a majorexample, but there are minor
(02:45):
things that we change and doevery day because of a fear of
what people will think or say tous.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Right, or what you touched on.
Most often that I see that'shappening is not what people
will think of us, but thestoryline that we have created
in our head of what we thinkthey think, or what we think
will happen.
What we think, they think.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, yeah, I agree Of us and so.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
And so, when you look at that, these are the
questions I would ask.
Have I talked to that personRight To see if that's what they
think?
That's one of the best ways tosquash.
Or why do I think that they willthink that Right, well, that
would be number one and twoquestion, as I'm researching
(03:35):
that for myself, is have Italked to them?
What do they really think Right, so I can squash the monkey
mind?
Lie, yeah, and then yes, yes.
Another good question would bewhy do I think they think that?
Is it because of some previouscircumstance or event that I've
experienced where that was true,and now I've clumped everybody
(03:58):
together and the whole wideworld thinks that and that.
And that is a lie as well, andit will cause you to create a
reality and function within thatreality in not a true,
authentic way.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Right, you know, I have a family member, that's.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Why did this come up for you?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Well, about a couple of things.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
What happened.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Well, there's just the point in our life where we
are of going through what we'regoing through here and me
presenting that and and andthinking that they're going to
think that I'm crazy.
You know, that's when allreality is, is it's obvious
(04:38):
what's going on?
And so when I present like whenI was, when I presented it to
the superiors, I was moreconcerned about what they
thought of me than I was justgetting the truth out.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Why?
What were you afraid wouldhappen?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Don't really know.
That's where I'm kind of stuck.
Actually Don't really know whatthe fear is.
I'm looking at it and trying tofigure it out.
Why did I alter who I am?
Because I know for what.
I know what the fear is.
I'm looking at it and trying tofigure it out, or what that.
Why did I alter who I am and mynote?
Because I know for what.
I know what I know, but forsome reason I just won't.
I would not be staunch about itand like yesterday, you know,
(05:17):
we talked about being firm orstaunch about things and he's
like we're just not staunchpeople and I don't necessarily
agree with that firmly.
But I have altered who I amwithin a human issue because of
what I think that other peoplewill think and I don't like that
.
I don't like being that person.
I want to be who I am and Iwant to do me, so to speak.
(05:41):
I want to do me and when Ialter my presence due to a
thought or idea or expectationof how people are going to react
that's not a good perception.
That's not a good place to be in, especially afterwards when you
get done, you're like why did Ido that?
(06:01):
Hey, yeah, good morning.
Good morning, how are that?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Good morning.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Good morning.
How are you Good?
How was your coffee thismorning?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
We didn't tell everybody good morning.
Oh, we went right into it, man,we just dabbed right in.
Oh sorry.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I've been waiting.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
No, it's all good, I just wanted to tell everybody
good morning.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Good morning, well, I think it's pent-up energy
because we haven't done apodcast.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, maybe.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
And I have a few subjects in my mind and this one
hit me in the shower again andI was like why didn't I just
handle this differently andtrying to figure out why I
altered my presence?
And I don't like doing that,because I see people do it all
the time.
Like you know, I have a familymember and this is a common
topic, that is, in the spiritualworld.
I think it's a common topicamongst many different
(06:54):
parameters, where people willalter who they are because of
what people think or say.
And you know, I have a familymember that was homosexual all
his life, when everybody knew hewas homosexual but he did not
admit it.
And then, finally, when he didadmit it, I asked him one day
why did you wait?
Everybody already knew.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
What is this homosexual thing coming up?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Why do you?
Speaker 2 (07:14):
keep using that as an example?
Are you trying to tell mesomething?
Speaker 1 (07:19):
No See, that's exactly what that's a judgment
statement.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
No way, yeah, you are .
That's a judgment statement.
Wow, chill, dude, I'm not, Iwas just playing Well.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I'm not Like take it easy, but anyway.
So this scenario when I askedwhy did you wait so long?
Everybody already knew he said,well, it just wasn't okay and
it was.
It was kind of like a thought,and these are the thoughts I'm
having in the shower, I don'tknow why.
These are the topics thatthey're popping in my head and
(07:55):
the subjects I don't know, butit is a um.
Yeah, I see it a lot when peoplethis, where they change who
they are due to the fear of aperception of what everybody's
going to think.
So how do we handle thatsituation?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Well, as you well witnessed, it's going to be a
case-by-case scenario on wherethe person is and where they are
wanting to go with it and whatthey can actually be open and
receptive to hear and to handle.
I mean, you kind of just got toevaluate each individual
(08:32):
situation.
You obviously are not at apoint where we can joke about
some topic like that for you,because you got very defensive
about whatever, you got verydefensive about whatever, and so
then you're immediatelyconstricted and not open to
being able to really hearanything about it and you put up
(08:53):
a barrier.
So it just depends on case bycase where you're at.
And so if we speak verygenerally about the topic of
changing who you are based onwhat you think other people
think or based on what youwitness other people commenting
about, it would be the topicthat we talk about just in
(09:17):
general.
Is that what you're wanting todo?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Is that where, I guess I'm just trying to get?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
clarity on where you're wanting to go with this.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
It is wherever it goes.
I'm not trying to get clarityon where you're wanting to go
with this.
It is wherever it goes.
I'm not trying to direct it.
I'm just trying to give it anopen forum of nonjudgmental talk
that people can be free to bewho they are and be honest about
it and be open about it,without the perceived thoughts
(09:46):
of what people are going to sayor do to them.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
So let's first clarify what it is exactly when
you say it.
What are you?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
talking about.
It can be any subject, it canbe anything.
Well, the most common one isthat I can think of off the top
of my head, that's just recentlyis one of our constituents
constituents what is that?
(10:12):
That uh, that uh, um, isobviously putting a front of who
he really is, putting out afront and not being honest
because of the judgment thatpeople will put out there.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
So why do you care what he's doing?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
I just, I just was seeing it, it's just an
observation that I made, andthat is what I'm talking about.
Is they alter who they are andnot being true to themselves or
others and being honest about itdue to the fact of what people
will think, do or say?
I see, and you know it's a, it'sa common topic in.
(10:53):
You know, you asked about theum why I was using the
homosexual examples, and that is.
You know, that's the number onething.
You know.
You like, we watched thatRuPaul drag race and on there
they would talk about how theywouldn't come out because of
what their parents would think,or blah, blah, blah, blah.
And then when they do come outthey find out their parents
really didn't care, and sothat's why that topic comes into
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play.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I see.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
And so where?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
do we?
Are you or where do I'm lettingyou have the floor, man, I'm
letting you.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Well, this is Dr Jenny too here.
What's going on?
You're just like shut down overthere over a situation that
happened.
Whoa chill, I'm not shut down.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I'm letting you talk it through and get to the place
where you're trying to get Okay.
So how do you work yourselfthrough it?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I'm, I'm still working through this scenario.
I'm it's not that I'm bringing,I don't.
I have no answers.
I I'm because all I'm doing istrying.
I'm trying to set it up towhere, um, I can work through
the process of being who I amwhen it comes to the scenario
(12:07):
that we're dealing with.
Why did I alter off of who I amand be more worried about what
they're going to think, insteadof just putting the facts out on
the table?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Okay.
So if we go deep and we go allthe way to the core of that kind
of behavior that people arehaving, it is all culminated
into one word it's a fear-basedprogram.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
It's the fear that somebody's gonna think something
.
It's a fear that we're gonnalose something such as our job,
our relationship.
It's a fear that we're gonnareceive negative consequences or
get reprimanded.
It is a fear that we moreuncomfortable to experience pain
(13:07):
and pleasure than what it is tojust hide it and pretend like
I'm somebody else.
Now that's the core issue.
It's fear-based.
Then we come up a level andbegin to research and dig around
.
What are the layers that we'velaid on top of that core belief?
(13:28):
What is the soil that we'velaid on top of that seed that's
growing?
And for each individual thoselayers are going to look a
little bit differently.
And you brought up thehomosexual idea.
And so if we go on that topicbecause, like you said, there's
many topics that this happens init all basically boils down to
(13:51):
the same kind of characteristictraits.
If I'm afraid that people aregoing to not like me anymore or
not accept me into the tribe, orI'm going to lose my job, or
I'm going to lose my socialnetwork because I divulge that I
have a sexual preference that'sopposite of what the societal
(14:14):
gender requirement is, the fearis is that I'm not, I'm going to
be alone, I'm not going to haveany social network.
There's nobody out there thathas the same thought that I do,
and there's no other socialnetwork.
That is my tribe, so to speak.
(14:34):
But it's kind of that way on anytopic.
It's a fear of losing somethingthat you currently have because
those people won't see it thesame way.
Or it's a fear of being madefun of or being judged or being
chastised for behaving in such amanner.
(14:55):
Or it's a fear of maybe losingyour job because you've brought
something to the table that youthink the company is not going
to be open to or that your bossis not going to be open to.
It's just fear based.
It's fear based, and so youwork through that, just like you
do anything else.
(15:17):
You do what I just did, which isto acknowledge that it's fear
based, and I'm a journaler man,so I'm always going to say get
your journal out, write down the, the, the, the fear.
It's fear.
Then take the topic homosexual.
Okay, what am I afraid willhappen?
If I am experiencing life andmy true, authentic way of
(15:42):
desiring a different gender inmy life and wanting to dress in
the opposite gender way, what amI afraid is going to happen?
And write down worst casescenario.
And if it's like, if one of thestatements is I'm afraid that
people are going to think badabout me, okay, what can you do
(16:07):
about that?
Well, you can do one of twothings.
You can take on the notion ofso what?
I don't care what people thinkI'm going to be, who I am, and
if they have a problem with it,if they're offended, it's their
beliefs, patterns and programsthey have to work on, and
perhaps that's not the person Iwant to hang out with.
(16:29):
Or you can go on anexperimental journey and you go
to that person and you sharewith them.
Listen, I am homosexual and I'mjust curious.
I'm doing an experiment and Iwant to interview you on what do
you think about me, knowingthat I am that?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
because, I'm.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
You know, you can play a game with it.
Or, if it's a closer familymember, just come to a place and
say hey, I'm homosexual.
I've been hiding it because I'mafraid you think that I am some
negative something.
And so what do you really think?
And be completely honest withme.
That way you get to decide whatyou want to be and do in it.
(17:13):
They get to decide what theywant to be doing it and trusting
that, it's going to feel reallygood to be able to get rid of
that baggage that you're totingaround.
Because you may find, just likeyou said, the parents didn't
really care, but that individualwas creating this story, that
they did care, and the storythen grew from there that not
(17:37):
only do they care, but they'regoing to disown me and out me
and I'm not going to get to be apart of the family anymore.
And the story just went on andon and on and the findings were
that he was creating a storythat was an absolute lie.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Well, you see with me , what I've identified in this
perception of what we aredealing with here is, I asked
myself why did I alter who I amin explaining this?
And my only answer was becauseit would change the way they
view us.
And the reality is, I don'treally know how they view us,
(18:16):
and so I've created the story inmy head of how they view us.
And so then I have a fear oflosing this idea that's in my
head that I have created that Ireally don't know how we're
viewed, right, and.
But I have a fear of losingthat when I really don't even
know if it's true.
So do I really have it in thefirst place?
Right, and that's where.
But getting to the point of thewhy.
(18:38):
But why did I allow myself tocreate this story where I feel
like that, when I tell themwhat's going on or whatever,
that it changes how they view us, when I don't even know for
sure how they view us?
And so I'm getting to the pointof the why.
Why did I create what I feellike that they viewed us as
(19:01):
prior to this, when I don't evenknow if it's true?
And so I'm at the point of why.
Why did I create the fictitiousstory in my head?
That that's not proven.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Well, sometimes we create a fictitious story
because that is a form of goalsetting, it's a form of
daydreaming, it's a form ofcreating a reality and then
moving towards that goal.
And so sometimes it is apositive thing If you create and
I'm going to just use us for anexample, and I'm going to just
(19:33):
use us for an example, if wecreate this thought that we are
seen, as you know, the numberone managers in the company and
we do all of these wonderfulthings and some of them maybe
(20:02):
have not even come to fruition.
That's a form of holographicdaydreaming, so to speak, of
goal setting.
And so then what?
Because the best way that itworks when you're creating your
reality or aligning with areality that you've put into
existence, is daydreamingyourself there, without an
expectation and an insistencethat it must turn out that way.
And what we teach is talk aboutwhat you want it to look like
(20:27):
and how you've daydreamed thatit looks like, so that you can
better come in alignment withthat right, right.
And so if you're creating astory of you know what we beat
all of our numbers.
We are number one in thecompany when it comes to all of
the statistical numbers.
We're 100%.
That's just you verballyputting yourself in a frequency
(20:53):
that aligns with that realitythat you want, and there's
nothing wrong with that.
There's absolutely aligns withthat reality that you want and
there's nothing wrong with that.
There's absolutely nothingwrong with that, unless you take
it in the direction that youtook it, which is okay.
So I've had this thing happen,and if I share the trueness of
(21:15):
exactly all of the intricatedetails of what happened, then
this perspective that I'vecreated, that I think they see
me as, will be modified in sucha way that I will have to
experience negative results ofthat.
(21:36):
And so then you'll modify howyou tell the story or how you
give the information to them sothat you don't change that,
because you're afraid of apotential consequence that you
might experience by giving allthe details or telling what's
actually happening fully andcompletely.
(21:59):
You'll leave out details oromit information or not talk
about it at all, not tell at all.
And that happens in any kind ofrelationship, whether it be
work relationships, personalrelationships, friends, whatever
.
That's how that kind of comesabout.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Okay, makes sense, it does.
Yeah, the parameters withinthat I have been operating
within are based on myperception of an assumed
perception, and that is not acorrect way of operating through
life.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
It's not that it's not correct.
It's okay to daydream it's justnot okay to then modify how you
naturally would be based onthat holographic daydream,
especially if it causes you notto be open and honest, and
(23:01):
that's what you're wanting to be.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Yes, Okay, I get it.
And the perception of it likeour example that we're talking
about.
I use those a lot.
When I say and do the thingslike the examples you've made,
like we're the number onemanagers in the company, yada,
yada.
When I say and do the thingslike the examples you've made,
like we're the number onemanagers in the company, yada,
yada, that is for me more ofputting the energy out there,
because I know what you put out,you get out and it's about
(23:23):
intention setting.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Right, exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Even though I have been told by our former previous
superior that we are anomalies.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
And that we're looked at very highly by the company
for sure.
But before we openly got tothat place, you and I would
write our story verbally to eachother, that way to generate
that energy, to embrace thatfrequency, finding what that
feels like so that we can alignwith that reality, because
(23:58):
that's something that we wantedto happen.
And so you kind of it's almostlike giving yourself permission
not to really face realitybecause reality is old news.
I got to go rabbit hole forjust a second.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Okay, so the rabbit hole of all of this is the
actual reality that you sit hereand you're looking at was
created based on the beliefs youused to have, maybe two minutes
ago, maybe two days agowhatever this reality right now
that we're living in was createdin the history Right it was
created from the frequency ofwhat you previously were
(24:34):
experiencing or the beliefs thatyou were running.
You previously were experiencingor the beliefs that you were
running.
The minute you change a beliefpattern, program or you change
your perception that reality isa whole new reality that you can
choose to line up with or not.
And so it is perfectly okay totalk about the things that you
(24:56):
want to see come into the newreality and not face reality,
the current reality that you'rein, because it's old news, it's
the manifestation of what youused to see and believe.
And so when we, when I say Inever faced reality, that's what
I mean when I say I never facereality, that's what I mean.
Like the current situation I'msitting in, whatever it may be,
(25:22):
I don't give a lot of focus tothat.
Now, I'm human, so there'stimes when I have meltdowns if
it's not comfortable, but I haveto remind myself this is
already done.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
It's already over.
What did you say I?
Speaker 2 (25:33):
have to remind myself that this is already done and
this is going to pass, and thatwhat I'm creating is the new
reality coming my way.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
And so it's not like you're telling yourself a lie.
It's not like you're saying alie when you like.
For instance, you and I havingthose conversations in the past
of you, know we're 100%, we'rethe top managers in the building
, when we would have thatconversation amongst us.
And the reason we had itbetween the two of us in the
beginning is because when you'resharing it with other people
(26:11):
and it's not the reality, theysee it can appear like you're
lying and nobody likes theenergy of that Right.
So you can talk with yourpartner or a good friend or
write it down on a piece ofpaper the reality that your goal
, your plan to align with onpiece of paper, defining exactly
(26:37):
what you want it to look like.
It's no different than tellingthat story and becoming that
verbally.
Yeah, I agree, so that's, allthat's happening and it's not a
bad thing to do.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Right, and so that's why we've got to kind of do a
little plot twist with peoplethat are listening so they will
understand more that you have togive yourself the permission to
be who you are and act the wayyou want to act within your own
beliefs with when you have afear that pops up with that's
(27:10):
causing a bump up against place.
Stop and look at this storybehind it.
We know, like I have, anexample of a gentleman that is a
military vet, very proud,decorated vet of the military,
but because of the war it was in, he hides it.
(27:32):
Oh cause, he's embarrassed ofthe right of the actions that he
caused because of causedbecause of a perception that he
thinks that everybody will viewof him.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Oh, I see.
Yeah, it's very common.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
It is.
It's a big deal and peoplealter their lives every day
because of it.
And it can be a domino effectof repercussions and perceptions
that change and becomingaligned with you who you are.
No matter what your history is,remember your history.
(28:04):
They say your history defineswho you are.
I don't believe that.
I believe that your beliefsthat you carry right now define
who you're going to become andwhen you have a history of.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Your history can define who you are, if you
choose to bring that historywith you into your new reality.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
I agree with that.
But I'm talking about for thecommon person that that doesn't
identify, that like when thisparticular gentleman.
He doesn't identify withspiritual beliefs or any of that
kind of stuff.
He just believes that what hedid was so embarrassing and the
way he got treated when he cameback home.
He is embarrassed to tellpeople, you know that that he's
(28:44):
this decorated war veteran fromthe vietnam war and because of
what he thinks people are goingto think, do and say to him and
like I told him is, you don'tknow until you ask, and so
that's where I was going.
Next, and this is why I usethis example is I told him have
(29:06):
you even asked anybody?
You know what they think of it.
You know, go talk to one of thefellow veterans that were in
that war and see what they think.
Right, you know, give yourselfthe permission to ask questions
to create a different perceptionof the story.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
And that's kind of where I'm at with this stuff in
the shower this morning.
I was thinking is is where do Ineed to identify this at and
why?
Why did I allow myself tocreate this version in my head?
And that's where it is.
Is it comes from a fear?
It comes from maybe formerhistory Right, how people react.
(29:50):
It comes from monkey mind.
It comes from many differentthings and it can come from
other people's monkey minds andthat creates a reality or an
environment that causes you toalter who you are.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Or how you behave.
Or how you behave, yeah, I getall the time I have people come
up to me and say you're such aninspiration because you just do
and dress and be whatever.
And I just wish I could be thatway, and I do.
I mean, I'll put on, I'll wearsome of the craziest ass shit,
(30:28):
I'll do some crazy shit to myhair, I'll just do whatever and
and I I don't ever, for the mostpart I don't.
There are topics you and I I dothat.
With that I still am a work inprogress, yeah, but for the most
part I just do me in it.
(30:51):
And when you practice thathabit and you get to a place,
it's very freeing, and then itjust becomes a new habit and so
you just, you know, hey,whatever.
Because I remember a time whenI would dress a certain way to
be accepted into a group orlaugh at something I didn't find
(31:13):
funny, or you know, I would docertain things that were not
authentic and I just kind of Icame to that place, that place
of where you're at, and I'm likeI'm going to just do me,
because that feels right, itfeels better, because when I
would behave in ways that werenot authentic.
I would check in with myemotional guidance system, egs,
(31:39):
and I would feel yucky for doingit Right.
It wouldn't even be pleasurable.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
And I find myself holding back.
Yeah, like there's a certainsituation right now in our work
environment that you know aboutthat, I want to go up on the
roof and scream on themountaintop that this person
that's in our reality is acomplete and utter liar.
Yeah, and I wouldn't telleverybody right and I hold
myself back because it's not mywell.
(32:06):
There's many differentparameters, but I think the main
thing is it's not my job tochange that person's reality and
not my job to expose.
Well, the reality is that youcan't change their reality
necessarily.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
But if it doesn't feel like it's again, you go
back to your EGS emotionalguidance system, and if it
doesn't feel right to do that,then it's not time to do that,
right?
I?
Speaker 1 (32:34):
agree, and it may not be a time to do it at all.
It may not ever be.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Because if you're doing things like that from an
angry place, or a revengefulplace and not from a guided
place of.
I know this is the right thingto do.
It will feel much different.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
And I'll give you an example.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
We had an employee that Performed an act, and I am
not generally a manager whoenjoys or gets any enjoyment out
of having to relieve somebodyof their job duties while they
work under me.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Yeah, we don't like to change anybody's reality.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
We're very much giving people a chance to learn
and grow, and so we don't tendto be canners.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yeah, or the staunch managers.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
But I recently had this experience where I had to
make that decision and because Iknew spiritually that it was
time for her to go on adifferent journey, because I
checked in with it and our thisis kind of rabbit hole and it's
(33:53):
a little bit advanced, ourinteraction of why we really
came together in the guise of orin the perception of she came
here to work for me.
That was the kind of surfaceidea, but the underlying idea
spiritually was that we had acontractual agreement that I was
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going to play a character shewas going to learn and grow from
, was going to learn and growfrom and because of that and my
understanding of that level ofwhat's going on, I was
completely at peace on myemotional guidance system of and
it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Well, it was obviously a divine flow, because
the actions that took place.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
It wasn't a pleasant thing by any means.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
The actions that took place.
Her actions, your actions,everybody's actions were
obviously there for a reason,and that was like an obvious
thing because it was so off thewall and so crazy that you
almost couldn't believe it.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Well, and what I'm saying is you know that you're
doing what you're doing, even ifit looks like or feels like,
you know gosh.
I hate that this is having togo on.
I don't know, I don't Wow, whatwas that?
That's all folks.
I don't necessarily enjoydismissing people under my
(35:24):
command, so to speak.
That's not something that'senjoyable.
I don't get pleasure out ofthat.
But what I know is that, inthis particular situation, I
checked in with it, as I do withall things, and I knew that
this decision was the decision.
(35:44):
And I knew that this decisionwas the decision and it was time
for me to follow through withreleasing this person from the
job.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Well, there was obviously your responsibility
because I had zero feelings init.
I was just kind of neutral inthe situation, yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
And so that's one of the ways that you will, as we
use us to teach people how doyou know when things are what
they are and how do you knowwhen they're not.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Right.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
So, for me, I knew that it was in mine and her
journey for me to play thischaracter of releasing her of
her holographic jobresponsibility.
Holographic job responsibilityand even though it was a little
bit of an unpleasant series inthe play, I knew that this was
the right decision and so,therefore, I didn't have guilt,
(36:33):
I didn't have yucky feelingswithin it, I was at peace with
the decision that I'd made.
There was no, I didn't do itfrom a place of resentment.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
I didn't do it from a place of anger.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
I didn't do it from a place of resentment, I didn't
do it from a place of anger, Ididn't do it from a place of any
other emotion, except I justknew that it was time and this
was our agreement.
And I moved forward because Ichecked in with my emotional
guidance system and I was atpeace with the decision.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Well, in humanly, the actions were against company
policy.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
And for you, knowing that it wasn't your cue card to
step up and play and it wasn'tyou that was supposed to do.
It comes from you checking inwith your emotional guidance
system and saying I'm neutral inthis.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah, I'm very neutral.
I was very neutral in it, itdoesn't.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
I don't get any kind of guidance on I should do it, I
shouldn't do it.
She can stay, she can go, andso there was no nudge
necessarily for you to go anydirection in it and that's how
you guys can know what partyou're playing in any of this.
Right, you check in with thatemotional guidance system and
(37:43):
don't make decisions from thoselower level vibrational
frequency emotions like anger,resentment.
You know, check in with it, setwith it and when you know it's
the right thing, even if it'shaving to fire somebody, you'll
still feel at peace.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
You know.
I think another topic we needto carry on in this is how does
it feel when you do be yourself?
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
And how rewarding it can feel and how good it feels
on the inside, how releasing ofenergy it can be, how light,
yeah, light.
That's a good way.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
And free.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Light and airy to be who you are.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Yeah, when you release that baggage that's not
yours, then you.
So how it works is, if you havea topic and you've created this
mindset that other people thinkthis way, you've basically
taken on a piece of heavyluggage that's not even yours,
(38:41):
so you're carrying that around.
And when you're carrying arounda vibrational frequency that's
not yours, it is very heavy, andso the minute you come to a
place of awareness and thewillingness to release it, then
it aligns you back with yournatural frequency and you feel
very free, you feel very light,very airy, and it feels good.
(39:05):
Yeah, totally, it feels reallygood.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
You know, we as humans have this habit, a lot
that we do and we use it tomanipulate our own environment
and most of the time it'sinvoluntary and that is that
perceived story that we create.
Say more Say, for example, youknow, I was in a pretty terrible
marriage for a very long timeand because I perceived what
(39:34):
other people would think of meif I ended that relationship,
even though that relationshipwas done many years before I
actually left, I just continuedto put myself humanly into a
situation that was not happy,not healthy for anybody, because
of the stories that I thought,you know, people would create in
their own head.
And some of that has come true.
(39:56):
Those stories were created, butI felt so much better when I
just walked away.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
And what you came to, the realization, was that, even
though they created the stories, nothing bad happened to you,
correct?
Correct, because that's theother piece of it is whenever
we're creating this story, theway that that mechanism works,
called the monkey mind, is wecreate this story to keep
ourselves away from doing a?
(40:25):
Thing, that we think is goingto be worse than the situation
we're in right.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
They say the pain, yeah, the, when the pain of
getting out of it is greater, orthe pain of getting out of it
is, or the pain of staying in itis greater than the pain of
getting out of it.
That's when we start changingthings right, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
And so that mechanism , your monkey mind, will keep
creating little tidbits of storyof okay, well, if you do that,
what if it does this?
And what if it does that?
Oh my, god, this is gonnahappen and then it's gonna be
I'm, I'm gonna be all alone andI'm to be a social stigma and
nobody's going to want to eventouch me because I have some
(41:07):
contagious disease.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
And our monkey mind can be so.
Maximizing, yeah, but that's bydesign, you're right.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
The monkey mind is there to serve a purpose.
Create a big dramatic storyBecause, on a rabbit hole forum,
it's there to keep a realitycreated so that we can learn and
grow.
If we are living through thislife knowing that we are this
(41:37):
powerful being and that none ofthis is real, then we don't have
quite that authentic and thatvisceral experience on the human
level, and so, by design, ithas to continue to try and keep
itself as real as possible.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
I agree.
The monkey mind plays such abig part in this topic.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
It really does.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
And I think the message I want to give out in
our podcast today is givingpeople the permission to, if
they have this story created, toask why.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
And go communicate about it and ask you know, just
go ask somebody.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Yeah, and I would say that the other part of it is if
you're not there yet, if you'renot at a place where you can
actually go to that person andsay you know, hey, I want to
know what you think about this.
Then explore your own self.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Use that time when you've come to the aware place
that you know it's happening,you know that you're modifying
your true, authentic behavior.
Because you have thisunderlying fear of what people
are going to think or what'sgoing to happen and you're not
ready to really go and confrontthat person or those people you
(42:50):
can't really get there.
At least do some research onyourself and dig around in it.
Why am I afraid?
What am I afraid of?
What am I afraid that's goingto happen?
And research that and write itdown.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
And be prepared for your monkey mind to prove your
thoughts.
Because, like this happens,these kind of things will happen
where you may have one topicand you've created this
perceived story, and then youinteract with others and then
you hear them making judgmentalcomments or doing judgmental
things, and our monkey mind willtake that and say, see, I told
you so They'll go through thatissue.
(43:26):
You know, like our tattoos onour arm sleeves, we hear people
all the time oh my God, I wouldnever do that.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Oh well, then it leaves more ink for me, because
I love doing it.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Right, but our monkey mind takes that information and
feeds into saying but do youknow why it does that?
Speaker 2 (43:44):
No, would you like you know why it does that?
No, would you like to know why?
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
So the reality that we live in, that we've created,
if you can think about it thisway, it is basically a mirror
reflecting back to you whatyou're still hanging on to or
what you could still work on ifyou were wanting to continue to
work on something okay and soit's.
It's kind of a test of have Ilet that go?
(44:13):
What is the next thing I canwork on?
What is still?
What is it that I'm stillreflecting out to the universe
on a frequency level, and sothen it bounces that back to you
through your reality as kind ofa glitch in the channeling
(44:46):
Maria Maria.
As I channel the information,there sometimes are glitches.
Anyway, if you are actuallywanting to evolve and grow in
this topic, wanting to evolveand grow in this topic, the
reality that's in front of youwill reinforce what you're still
(45:09):
running.
The patterns, programs andbeliefs that you're still
running, Reflecting back to youwhat you're doing Right, and so
the example you gave is just theuniverse or the guide or
whoever you work with showingyou know, the universe or the
guide or whoever you work withshowing you that, hey, you still
have a bit of this that you'rerunning in your reality, and
(45:31):
that's why you're having peoplecome across your reality that
are still talking about, orwhatever you still have a little
bit of that belief runningaround, and so, if you choose to
, you might want to look at itand can you tell me?
put it in the trash.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Can you tell me what it means to have a splinter pop
up on your finger when youhaven't done any woodworking in
probably eight or 10 years?
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Of course.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Cause I have a splinter and it just popped up
on one of my fingers.
It's driving me insane and ithasn't.
I haven't touched a piece.
You know, did any woodworkingfor a very long time.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Yeah, it is representative or symbolic of a
belief that is ready to come tothe surface and come out.
That has been a burr in yoursaddle for quite a long time.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Interesting.
That's what a spender means,that's what.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
That's what a spender means.
That's what it's representativeof.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Yep, yep, yep.
Anyway, hey, I feel pretty good.
So, basically, before we endthis, I want to tell everybody
it's okay to be who you are,what you are and how you are,
and if you want to change yourreality, change your beliefs
right now and move forward.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
Right yeah, because whatever beliefs you're running
right now, whatever perceptionyou're running right now, is the
reality that you're creatingfor your tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Yes, totally agree with that statement.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
So the reality that you're witnessing today was
created from the beliefs thatyou had a while ago.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
A while ago.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
A while ago.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
A while ago.
A while ago.
A while ago.
Is that an animal Can I get?
A while ago.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
It's an animal.
Now it's encrypted.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
Welcome to McDonald's .
May I take your order please?
Can I get a while ago?
Speaker 2 (47:20):
What does a while ago look like?
Speaker 1 (47:22):
Can you McBiggie that ?
Speaker 2 (47:25):
I need a Mcgie wallago Can.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
I get a Biggie wallago.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
Yeah, and does that come equipped with a leash and
collar, because I would like tohave a lime green.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
I would like to have the pink wallago please yes.
Can I get a pink wallago with aleash?
Yes, I would like to be sizethat that's perfect.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
I'm gonna create a wall ago.
I'm gonna decide oh, I did thata while ago I'm gonna decide
what that looks like and I'mgonna put it on a shirt yeah,
there you go, I got a wall agoI'm to create a whole new
creature.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
This is my wall ago.
Ask me about it.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
What's your wall ago's name?
Speaker 1 (48:12):
Yesterday Would you help me name my wall ago.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
My wall ago's name is yesterday.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
My wall ago name was 10 minutes 10 minutes wall ago,
while ago name was 10 minutes 10minutes while ago.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
I also have one called five minutes five minutes
while ago.
Her brother's name is fiveminutes.
Five minutes while ago.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
Hey guys, we appreciate y'all and, uh, we're
glad that you tune into thespiritual grind.
Yeah, um, continue to like,follow and share and if you have
any questions, comments,anything, look us up online at
wwwthemerccentersorg.
And we are on social media.
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weekly, it depends.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
Just information.
It's not medical advice.
No, no, it's just herbalinformation about it.
Just information, justinformation.
It's not medical advice.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
No, no, it's just information, it's just herbal
information about herbs and howthey can be beneficial to your
life.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
Yeah, and the disclaimer is that it's not
medical advice, it's just foreducation.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
That is correct, all right.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
And reach out to your doctor before you start taking
anything.
I think that's what the littledisclaimer says, that I have to
put in place.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
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How about that?
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to conversating about any topic.
We love what we do.
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Speaker 2 (49:36):
It is Jeep week.
We're going to go to Jeep BeachGetting our ducks in a row.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
We were just at Jeep Beach last weekend.
We're taking the motor coach toJeep Beach last weekend.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
We're taking the motor coach to Jeep.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
Beach this weekend.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
Yeah, getting our ducks in a row.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
I don't know if this will be posted by then but if
you see the yellow Willysgladiator then that's probably
us, and be listening for theloud music and the ducks to fly.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
When ducks fly.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
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Love.
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