November 4, 2025 • 59 mins
What if the only thing between you and momentum is the way you label your feelings? We dive straight into ego, pride, and the deceptively simple practice of self-awareness to show how small shifts can unlock big change. This isn’t about shaming ego or ditching confidence; it’s about using ego as a helpful filter and letting pride be a quiet, grounded recognition—not a megaphone for one-upmanship.
We get honest about ruts, rinse and repeat habits, and why doing the same thing in a new season rarely delivers the same result. From building an app to navigating health and relationships, we unpack how to learn in public, swap certainty for curiosity, and translate new languages—industry acronyms, body signals, and emotional cues. You’ll hear practical tools to spot justification, pause defensiveness, and invite the right teachers in, whether that’s a mentor, a great video, or your own intuition.
Emotions take center stage as a guidance system. We explore how pride can masquerade as joy, why bragging dulls genuine satisfaction, and how mislabeling feelings confuses your inner compass. If you struggle to name what you feel, try the “placeholder name” method to open a dialogue with your emotions. We also talk about the body’s quiet signals—pain, tension, restlessness—and how listening earlier saves you from louder alarms later. Finally, we offer a simple blueprint: choose one pattern, own your part, stack small moments of joy, and take the next honest step.
If this resonates, follow along for more grounded conversations on growth, emotional intelligence, and practical spirituality. Subscribe, share with a friend who’s stuck in a loop, and leave a review telling us one pattern you’re ready to rewrite.
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SPEAKER_03 (00:49):
Good morning, everybody.
Welcome back to the spiritualgrind.
SPEAKER_00 (00:53):
Good morning.
SPEAKER_03 (00:55):
We are live from Daytona Beach.
Well, on the coldest day of theyear.
SPEAKER_00 (01:02):
We're recording.
SPEAKER_03 (01:04):
We're recorded live.
I always thought that was funnywhen they broadcasted that.
SPEAKER_00 (01:08):
Recorded live from Versus recorded dead?
SPEAKER_03 (01:12):
Yeah, I guess.
I don't know.
Or what?
You remember that years ago whenthey would do that on the news?
They would post somethingrecorded live earlier.
SPEAKER_00 (01:20):
No.
SPEAKER_03 (01:21):
Yeah, I mean duh.
Recorded is always earlier.
And if you're not live, what areyou?
Why are you recording, then whatare you?
I always thought that wasstupid.
But anyway.
Good morning, Sunshine.
SPEAKER_00 (01:38):
Good morning.
SPEAKER_03 (01:40):
How are you today?
SPEAKER_00 (01:42):
Uh I'm I'm good.
You're good.
I'm waiting to see what uhunfolds for the day.
SPEAKER_03 (01:49):
Oh, you're ready.
Are you are you is that yourcue?
You want the topic?
SPEAKER_00 (01:53):
Uh it could be.
SPEAKER_03 (01:55):
Dum dum dum.
I need to have one of thosebuttons.
The topic.
It needs to say, the topic ofthe day.
SPEAKER_02 (02:03):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (02:06):
That would be fun, wouldn't it?
I should have one of thosebuttons.
SPEAKER_01 (02:09):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (02:10):
That would be fun.
SPEAKER_01 (02:11):
Perhaps.
SPEAKER_03 (02:12):
Maybe I need to program one of those.
I might have to do that.
So I have a question for you.
SPEAKER_01 (02:20):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (02:20):
Are you being the best you that you can be?
SPEAKER_00 (02:26):
Is that a rhetorical question?
Or do you really want theanswer?
SPEAKER_03 (02:30):
Well, no, it's it's actually where my mind is today,
because you know, with whatwe're talking about and dealing
with and in the shower, I'mthinking.
Because you brought to myattention that I am a creature
of habit and I am bullheadedsometimes.
SPEAKER_00 (02:48):
And and uh Wow, don't make everybody think I'm
such a hard-nosed Oh, who am Ikidding?
I am.
SPEAKER_03 (03:01):
I don't know anybody that don't think that you're
hard-nosed when it comes tospiritualism.
SPEAKER_00 (03:06):
Whatever.
SPEAKER_03 (03:07):
You're just direct.
And that's okay.
That's our relationship, and Ilove it.
So that's what we do.
And so I'm in the shower todayafter we have our conversation,
and I'm thinking, how do I bethe best be I can?
I mean, how do I be the best meI can be?
I have to be able to look atthose things and take corrective
criticism.
SPEAKER_00 (03:29):
Yeah, I mean, it's beneficial when anybody can do
that.
Um, because we have to remember,it's you know, the same same
thing.
It uh your environment's nothappening to you, it's happening
for you.
And every component of yourenvironment is a mirror because
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the end game or the the goal inall of this is self-growth and
self-evolution.
That's why this whole game ishere.
SPEAKER_03 (04:04):
I I agree you, I agree totally with your
statement, but I'm gonna digressback to something for a moment.
Sure.
Because you are so advanced thatsometimes you leave out steps
for people.
SPEAKER_00 (04:15):
I try not to, and I don't uh I I know you try not
to.
I that's why I have you.
SPEAKER_03 (04:22):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (04:24):
That's how we balance each other out because I
know that wait a minute, wait aminute.
SPEAKER_03 (04:29):
There is a dig in there somewhere.
You're the oh yeah, dummytakeover, your while the smart
one sits over and waits.
SPEAKER_00 (04:37):
While the rest of the world catches up.
SPEAKER_03 (04:39):
Yeah, yeah.
But the what I'm talking aboutis the steps to understanding
yourself more and being open andnot egotistical, because I
myself have been a very pridefuland egotistical guy most of my
life.
And learning a new way to think,and and and I don't want to say
that in a negative way, becauseand I want to do that.
SPEAKER_00 (05:01):
Well, I want to preface it by saying, you know,
I addressed this ego expectationjudgment in an article that I
recently wrote, uh, which youcan find on uh my blog To the
Edge and Back with Dr.
Jenny.
And I broke those three conceptsdown because there is a
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beneficial side to ego,expectation, and judgment.
It's just that if you take themtoo far in uh in a particular
direction, they can uh becounterintuitive or
counterproductive.
SPEAKER_03 (05:40):
I I agree with you because you know I used um my
ego in a very false way for manyyears.
SPEAKER_01 (05:49):
Okay, say more.
SPEAKER_03 (05:51):
Uh like for example, I when when I felt like I was um
inadequate in something, I woulduse my ego to bounce out of
that.
SPEAKER_00 (06:00):
Yeah, that's real common for most people actually.
SPEAKER_03 (06:03):
And but when now I'm in a place of I'm trying to
figure out how to be the bestme.
And and be able to take thosethings that I view myself as
having shortcomings in.
SPEAKER_01 (06:15):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (06:16):
And be open and receptive to learning within
those areas, and be open andreceptive to other people's
opinions because reality isperception.
SPEAKER_00 (06:27):
Well, yeah, and you know, remembering that higher
self, God, counsels, whateveryou're calling that uh higher
element of yourself is alwaysgonna put you in a situation
that best fits where you're atto be able to hear the next
piece of information that youneed along your journey.
SPEAKER_03 (06:50):
Right.
You know, and ego for me was afilter.
SPEAKER_00 (06:54):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (06:54):
So, like for example, it filtered the stuff
that I viewed as weakness ornegatives, uh-huh.
And moved it over into the fileof one day I'll change.
And or do I really want tochange that?
Or, you know, it would there wasmany parts of that that uh in my
ego filter that would movethings into places and we end up
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creating habits within our egowhen it's filtering things.
And so, like for example, thismorning, you know, or actually I
want to say this before ourrelationship started many years
back, when i I I would not havesat and talked through things
like this to people, first ofall, because there'd never have
been anybody that that couldhandle that kind of a
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conversation.
SPEAKER_01 (07:38):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (07:39):
And B is my ego would have got in the way.
And every now and then it doesrear its head.
SPEAKER_00 (07:46):
And of course.
SPEAKER_03 (07:48):
And so, like when our conversation this morning
happened, it made me stop andsay, you know, am I I'm not
being the best me I can bebecause of why.
And so like when I went and tookmy shower, I was in there, I was
and it's like my ego and mypride and my insecurities.
And so, like, I understand whatego does within it.
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And I hope everybody else cantake an opportunity to look at
it and say, when somebody bringssomething to your attention and
you get defensive, ask yourselfwhy.
And that is the key, I think thekey to that.
SPEAKER_00 (08:24):
Definitely one of the keys.
The other exposing factor iswhen somebody brings something
to you and you immediately feelthe need to go into a
justification story, then that'salso an indicator of looking at
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why.
Why do you feel like you have tojustify your action?
Uh, because there's obviouslysomething there to it as well.
SPEAKER_03 (08:52):
I agree.
You know, the the part of it forme is my pride, you know.
So ego is pretty easy tounderstand.
Everybody understands ego.
Well, they perceive that theyunderstand ego.
Let me rephrase that.
Right.
And they most people log ego asnegative.
And all it is is a filter, it'sa human filter.
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Because when you develop ego,then you you are generally have
it's a false kind of pride.
SPEAKER_00 (09:23):
It can be.
The other side of that coin isthat ego is also a confident uh
assertion of identity, which isa positive side of that.
SPEAKER_03 (09:37):
I would agree.
I would agree with that.
Now, with the pride side, when apride comes in, what I mean by
ego sometimes can become a falsepride, is pride is something
that you have accomplishedbefore, no matter what it is.
SPEAKER_01 (09:51):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (09:52):
You you become prideful and gives you
self-worth and self-value.
And when you reflect your egoand develop a self-pride because
that's a filter to protectyourself, your pride can be can
come through as an aggressive orirritated, altered spot.
(10:12):
Right.
And for me, that's the that'swhere the the spot is.
Like if you'd like to give yourdoctor perspective a pride, I
would love to hear that.
SPEAKER_00 (10:23):
Yeah, I mean, there is definitely a different energy
between being proud of anaccomplishment or an achievement
or a growth and being proud ofthat.
And when you're in that energyof just being proud of yourself,
it comes from a place of notnecessarily needing the
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perspectives, the opinions of anoutside source.
You can just be proud withinyourself of the accomplishments
that you've made.
It doesn't make you feel likeyou need to go and like Paul
Revere shot it from therooftops, hey, look at me, I did
this.
SPEAKER_03 (11:06):
Look at me, look what I can do, look at me, look
what I can do.
SPEAKER_00 (11:08):
It can just be an internal proud moment of your
accomplishment or something thatyou share with your person or be
proud of what you all haveaccomplished together.
SPEAKER_04 (11:18):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (11:19):
When it changes energy, is when you use it as a
perspective of needing to shareit with the rest of the world as
a I'm better than you.
Yep.
Projected ego projection.
SPEAKER_04 (11:38):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (11:39):
I am my prowess gets morphed into oh, you did that.
Well, I did this, which isbetter than kind of that one-up
mentality.
That's where it changes.
That's the pivotal point whereit changes.
So then you want, it's almostkind of like you you brag about
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it, put it in people's pace,face of wanting them to
acknowledge your achievementsand accomplishments so that you
get a false acknowledgement ofsomebody else being proud of you
from a negative kind of energyor vibration of this makes me
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better than the rest of theworld.
This makes me better thansomeone that I see is um what it
does is it reveals if I'm havinga perspective of myself not
quite up to par in this topic,but then I do something that
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gives me a proud moment ofachievement, and then take it to
that next place of yep, Iaccomplished this today, and so
therefore I am gonna share itwith you, but share it with you
in such a manner of me beingbetter than you now because my
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score was this and yours wasonly this.
Right, yeah.
Right.
Um that's where it changes.
SPEAKER_03 (13:18):
I agree.
And you know, for me, like andthis is I think this is a thing
that a lot of people misconstrueabout themselves, is you you
gotta be real careful of thepride as well, because this is
why like I view myself as veryversed in business business,
very versed in in uh the abilityto create financial abundance
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and how to maintain thatfinancial abundance.
I view myself very experiencedin that.
But over the last three or fourmonths my pridefulness of
business Acumen, is that right?
Is it Acumen?
Business Acumen, something likethat has changed because you
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know, we're going into a wholenew world.
You know, we're developing thisapp, and I'm I've had to really
stop and learn business from adifferent perspective.
SPEAKER_00 (14:17):
Yeah, from a different angle.
SPEAKER_03 (14:19):
And so my pride field.
And this right, and this this iswhere people get confused and
get off track, I think.
And this is why this is comingup, is because we we revert back
to ego.
And instead of being humbleenough to say, wait a minute,
hey, you know, yes, I havemultiple years experience in
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business, proven experience andmaking millions and millions and
millions of dollars.
And here I am now, and I'm like,oh whoa.
A lot of people would jump intotheir ego, I got this.
Yeah, you know.
And instead of being humbleenough to say, you know what, I
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don't know this.
SPEAKER_01 (15:03):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (15:03):
And I've got to learn.
And that can be on anything,anywhere.
They know, business is just anexample.
Like like we're learning thishappened.
I've had to learn how to createwebsites, and I've actually
learned how to code a littlebit, and and how that works.
And then there's a whole notherlevel of this that I'm not even
to yet, and that is themarketing of it.
SPEAKER_00 (15:24):
Right.
Figuring out how to do it inthis new playing field, yes, and
utilizing the skills andabilities that you have already
in existence, figuring out newcreative, out-of-the-box ways
that you can use what youalready know and morph them into
this new uh way of marketing orthis new uh theme or this new
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platform of existence,basically.
SPEAKER_03 (15:53):
Yes.
And that's where a lot of peopleget challenged, I think, is
understanding that hey, you canbe prideful.
You can but when you stoplearning is where your pride
will diminish.
Your self-work starts stopsgoing away because now your ego
is getting in the way oflearning.
And when your ego should beprompting you to learn.
SPEAKER_01 (16:15):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (16:16):
And so relabeling that type of reaction is where a
lot of people go wrong.
SPEAKER_00 (16:23):
Yeah, definitely.
Instead of going about it of, Ihave plenty of business
knowledge, I got this.
SPEAKER_04 (16:31):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (16:32):
That's a much different energy than coming at
it of realizing, yep, I havelots of knowledge and I'm proud
of where I've come from.
But this is an area where I'vegot to be open to learning a new
way, learning a new way ofexistence, learning a new way of
doing it, and allowing that thenallows the teachers to come in,
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whatever it is, be it a video,be it actually somebody that
teaches you how to do it orwhatever, come in and you being
open-minded, open-eared to beable to hear the information and
actually learn from it.
Whereas if you stayed in thategotistical place of I've got 30
plus years of experience in asuccessful business, you can
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tell me what you want, and Iwill decide if I digest it and
conceptualize it in my head ornot.
SPEAKER_04 (17:31):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (17:32):
That's where you begin to close yourself off and
you stop learning what othershave to give you because you're
in that fine that mind framethat there's no more.
Yeah, we call it ego on thenegative side of the coin.
There's no more than anybody canpossibly teach me because I
already know I have 30 plusyears of experience.
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I already know everything thereis to know.
Right.
And that'll trip you up and itwill prevent you from being able
to learn more and it willactually complicate your
journey.
And what I have seen is thatwhen someone goes into a new
adventure, they find that theold ways of doing business as
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they learned it, even thoughthey've got 30 plus years, some
of those techniques are notadaptable to the new way, but
yet they force that into placeand only to find out that it's
not gonna work and they gotta goback to the drawing board, which
wastes not only time and money,effort, but then they have to
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stop eventually and do someinternal work of dealing with
their very big ego about it,right?
And some people never get there.
SPEAKER_03 (18:51):
You know, like and here's a prime a very good
example that came to mind whenyou said that.
You know, we're developing thisapp, and there are parts of this
business that I understandcompletely.
I thought I let me rephrasethat.
I thought I understoodcompletely.
SPEAKER_01 (19:09):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (19:10):
And one example of that is the investor side.
SPEAKER_01 (19:13):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (19:14):
And what I come to realize was the investing part
of it's pretty much the same.
SPEAKER_01 (19:20):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (19:20):
But when you change business, those investors are
completely different people.
SPEAKER_01 (19:26):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (19:27):
And so yes, like before I could go into the
restaurant or to the real estateworld and have no problem
communicating that language andtalking to that and talking to
these people and and you know,about the product or the or the
property or or the restaurant orwhatever.
SPEAKER_00 (19:44):
Or the objective.
SPEAKER_03 (19:45):
Or the objective.
Right.
I have zero problem with that.
But I came to the realization inthis, I'm like, it is set up the
same, but the people and theactions are way different.
SPEAKER_00 (19:57):
And the lingo is probably different.
SPEAKER_03 (19:59):
The lingo is way different.
I mean, they use acronyms foreverything.
I'm like, huh?
But everything's AFC, UFC, IPC,UI, whatever.
You know.
Exactly.
And so I've had to take a givemyself a crash course on all
this stuff.
And and but it's very refreshingto know that I can still do that
and identify it.
Now, here is the point of thisthat I I want to get to.
SPEAKER_01 (20:22):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (20:23):
Is when we get to the point that we're we're in
this spot that we're in a rut.
You know, because this is one ofthe things that I I heard this
conversation happen yesterday atthe barber shop when I was in
the getting my hair cut.
And the conversation was a lady,uh, she was uh breaking up with
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her partner.
unknown (20:46):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (20:46):
They were getting divorced, yada yada yada.
And uh she was talking about howher parents were trying to help
her move out and all kind ofthis other things, and and her
parents wanted to go everythingshe ever bought she should go
get, or they bought they needshe needs to get out of the
house, and she said she wouldn'tdo that.
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And she was sitting thereexplaining this to the person
cutting her hair.
Like I was like, No, I finallyhad to put my foot down to my
parents, no, I'm not gonna bethat kind of person.
You know, I I too had ownershipin this breakup.
I had parts of this that I didwrong.
SPEAKER_01 (21:23):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (21:23):
And she had parts of it that she did wrong.
SPEAKER_01 (21:25):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (21:26):
But for me, I'm not gonna be that person.
I'm gonna identify.
She was sitting there in thechair, and the barber was like,
Wow.
Uh you know, that's big of youto talk like that.
SPEAKER_00 (21:39):
And so what you're saying is that her parents were
encouraging her to like take thegroup money or something.
SPEAKER_03 (21:47):
The group money, the furniture of the house, the
holster bank.
SPEAKER_00 (21:50):
Oh, I see.
Because the I guess thebasically go in and clean house
and take everything over fromthe She don't deserve nothing,
you know?
SPEAKER_03 (21:59):
I see.
Okay, okay and so but she wassitting there explaining all
this, and the barber was liketaken aback by it.
And I turned to her, I was like,man, that was that's very, very
self-aware.
SPEAKER_01 (22:10):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (22:11):
And there aren't too many people in this world that
can that have that quality.
And she said, Oh no, I didn'tbefore.
SPEAKER_01 (22:16):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (22:17):
Until I got so sad at this moment, and I got my ego
out of the way, and I sat downand talked to myself.
And I and then I called a friendof mine and said, Did you see me
doing these things?
And the friend and she said, Iwant you to be brutally honest,
was on the phone.
She said, Yes, I did.
I saw you treating this personthis way, I saw you doing this,
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I saw you doing that.
And she said that really hithome.
But I had to get my ego out ofthe way.
SPEAKER_00 (22:43):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03 (22:44):
And I was like, Well, that you know, that's very
self-aware and mad props.
You know, and of course, then Itold her about the podcast and
yada yada yada.
But I was more floored by thebarber and the reaction.
SPEAKER_01 (22:58):
Why?
SPEAKER_03 (22:59):
Because it was at a point the barber was saying,
Wow, I would never do that.
I would never do that.
I'm almost trying to encourageher to to not be that way.
And I was like, Why would youand that?
So I just turned and I was like,Why would you encourage somebody
not to be self-aware?
Because that is one of thebiggest parts that will help you
grow.
SPEAKER_00 (23:20):
Yeah.
And what was her answer?
Or his answer.
SPEAKER_03 (23:24):
He just looked at me.
It just looked at me.
So I was like, and and I turnedback around and finished getting
my hair cut.
But the girl thanked me foracknowledging her self-awareness
and she said, I have a lot tolearn.
And I'm like, Well, you'vealready learned the biggest step
of it.
SPEAKER_00 (23:38):
Right.
I mean, you know as well as Ido, my very first step in every
single process isself-awareness.
Yep.
When you can get to a placewhere you are self-aware of your
own actions within anycircumstance, situation, event,
relationship, and then takingownership and accountability for
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your part in it, um, that's thebiggest, that's the biggest and
primary story.
SPEAKER_03 (24:06):
100% agree.
SPEAKER_00 (24:08):
For sure.
SPEAKER_03 (24:08):
It it gets to a point with people, and this is
this is where I wanted thispodcast to go, is when you're at
a point that you're feeling likeyou're stuck in a rut.
And uh, because that was onepoint that she made.
She's like, I felt like the lastthree years was just like watch
and repeat, wash and repeat.
SPEAKER_00 (24:23):
Well, they were, basically.
SPEAKER_03 (24:25):
And she said, you know, and then you when you can
make yourself self-aware and getyour ego out of the way, that's
the biggest way to move forwardin your journey.
SPEAKER_00 (24:33):
Absolutely.
That's when you begin to see thebiggest uh change and
transformation in your realityis just becoming self-aware.
Right.
As a matter of fact, it's such abig component that if you have
beliefs in place that aremucking up your reality,
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sometimes just becoming aware ofyour part in the play or your
part in the situation willautomatically dissolve some of
those beliefs that are no longernecessary, or even uh give them
space to rewrite themselves justfrom becoming self-aware in the
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in the situation that's going onat hand.
SPEAKER_03 (25:19):
And so that's like where uh where I'm at with me is
I'm like identifying things nowthat I've you know, as after our
conversation this morning, I'midentifying things.
I'm like, because we get caughthabits.
You know, like uh I wasfrustrated and and I projected
that frustration on you.
But I didn't even recognize thatI did it.
SPEAKER_01 (25:38):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (25:39):
I don't even remember doing it.
SPEAKER_01 (25:40):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (25:41):
Because my ego or whatever was in the way, and and
that's not right either.
And so I would, you know, tellpeople it it it doesn't matter
what the subject is, becausewhat we're personally talking
about is my health.
SPEAKER_02 (25:55):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (25:56):
You know, but we use the example of business.
You can use this in finance, thesame thing.
You know, and when you stoplooking at options to improve,
then you're becoming stagnant inyour growth.
SPEAKER_00 (26:09):
Yeah, these concepts that we talk about and these
things to try that we talkabout, they apply to all areas
of what I call the life pie.
Relationships, business, career,finances, the steps are the
same.
You have to identify what andbecome aware of how you're
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interacting with the topic.
And that's the key first step.
I agree.
I I that's the biggest componentis uh awareness and then
accountability.
What part did I have in it?
Because the the rabbit holetopic here is that it's your
reality.
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I was waiting for this to comeout, and you're you're creating
your reality for the benefit ofgrowth and expansion.
And so inadvertently, whetheryou even realize that you're
doing it or not, you're creatingthese situations and these
interactions with people,places, and events and your
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reality so that you can grow andevolve.
That's why I tell you, none ofthis is happening to you by
other people, places, andevents.
It's happening for you by designbecause you're the one creating
your reality.
Nobody else is.
You're the one giving life themeaning through your emotional
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guidance system, nobody else is.
You're making those choices allalong the way of your journey.
You're deciding if this is gonnahave an emotional counterpart to
this thing that you'veexperienced or this topic.
You're the one that's gonnadecide how you perceive it and
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then what your next actions aregonna be within it, because
again, we don't control otherpeople.
We can only control ourperceptions, our actions, our
interactions within anysituation, circumstance, event,
or interaction with anotherhuman being.
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You can't make any of those beany different until you deal
with the blueprint, i.e., thebelief system of where you're
coming from.
That's creating your reality andbeing aware that you are
creating your reality and howyou're creating it through the
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negative side of ego or throughthe uh not so beneficial side of
expectation or judgment or uhweird, wonky beliefs in place,
right?
Then you are gonna find yourselfstuck in a rut.
Right.
Because you basically go on arobotic autopilot doing the same
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thing in the same in the sameloop because you're not
activating the system to doanything different.
Right.
Because you don't know thatyou're doing anything because
you haven't taught yourself tobe aware and accountable.
SPEAKER_03 (29:20):
Agreed.
SPEAKER_00 (29:21):
So then it just ends up in a big loop, rinse and
repeat.
SPEAKER_03 (29:25):
Yeah, see you and you touched on, I think the next
part of this is the emotionsbehind it.
SPEAKER_00 (29:29):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (29:30):
And the the emotion for it for me can you know, for
me it was like frustration, andthen it was like sadness,
because I was like, golly Imean, am I that much of a
douche?
SPEAKER_00 (29:47):
Would you consider yourself Summers Easter vinegar
or equate brand vinegar andwater?
SPEAKER_03 (29:56):
You know, the because it it is, it can be when
your ego gets in the way, thenyou try to fall on pride, but
you can't fall on pride becauseyou don't know everything, and
then you attach an emotion toit, and the emotional roller
coaster behind it was a rollercoaster.
It wasn't really a rollercoaster, that's a little
dramatic, but it was more likelike dang, I'm Smarter than
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that.
I'm better than that.
And when because the day I quitlearning is the day that I
become the most stagnant livinghuman being on this planet.
And if you're happy with whereyou are, you should look at your
your unhappiness.
Because a lot of people hidetheir unhappiness by their
happy.
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (30:39):
And fake it till you make it.
SPEAKER_03 (30:41):
They fake it.
And w and I don't mind tellingeverybody go out and get
divorced today.
What I'm talking about is trulylook at where you are and weigh
your unhappy till you're unhappyside.
And look at it because that'swhat I had to do through this
scenario was I'm happy with whatI'm doing, but I'm unhappy with
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this.
But I'm not identifying thepositives.
And I'm not identifying thenegatives.
Because that's four differentthings.
SPEAKER_00 (31:11):
You're just kind of complacent.
SPEAKER_03 (31:13):
Right.
I was just like expecting thedoing the same thing
repetitively, expectingdifferent results.
And when you do the same thingrepetitively, it it be it can
become ingrained in yoursubconscious mind.
And you don't even realizeyou're doing it.
SPEAKER_00 (31:27):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Which is what we call a habit oror a program.
SPEAKER_04 (31:33):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (31:33):
You're running a background program that you're
not even aware that you'redoing, and it just becomes like
a habitual routine in yourbubble, and you find yourself
falling back on it.
You can even do that even whenyou've come to a place of
awareness.
SPEAKER_03 (31:52):
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (31:53):
When you recognize that, oh, you know what?
This is a pattern I see, and I'mthe common denominator.
If you've been practicing thathabit for an extended period of
time, it sometimes can be alittle tricky to yank yourself
out of that habit.
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And so for the first little bit,you have to stay hyper-vigilant
on catching yourself in thehabit so you can make changes
right then to readjust thecalibration of what you want to
align with.
Correct.
Um, otherwise you'llinadvertently go back into that
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habit.
SPEAKER_03 (32:36):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (32:36):
You know, when you're not thinking about it.
SPEAKER_03 (32:39):
And the emotions behind it is what navigate you.
We talk about this all the time.
Yeah.
Your emotions are a guidancesystem.
Oh, absolutely.
And I think a lot of peopleattach um false happy to pride
or ego.
And pride or ego are not is notan emotion.
Yes, it's a mindset.
SPEAKER_00 (32:56):
Right.
Especially when um they you can.
You can tangle that up and youcan get confused about it.
SPEAKER_04 (33:05):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (33:06):
Um and like pride, like you gave yourself an
example of pride, uh, beingproud that you've achieved
something can get very quicklytangled up in, oh, I'm so happy
I achieved that.
Look at me, and then you goblabbing that to everybody, ha
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ha, look at me, kind of energy,which turns ego, which you can
miscategorize as I'm happy,right?
And um, but because you'vetwisted it into that uh not so
beneficial ego side of things,right, then it doesn't feel good
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anymore because it's not yournatural state of being.
SPEAKER_03 (33:53):
It causes an a a loop of presence.
SPEAKER_00 (33:56):
And so it causes a confusion, a point of confusion.
SPEAKER_03 (33:59):
Because this is where I see this where what I
what I note we identified aboutme was well, this worked in the
past, so I'm gonna continue todo it.
SPEAKER_00 (34:08):
Yeah, and so if I can if I can expound on it just
a little bit more, just to givepeople a little bit more to to
chew on.
When you when you have thatprideful moment and you feel
good about your accomplishment,you know, that feels really
good.
Then when you go and you want toshare that with your friends and
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family, but you do it from aplace of I am now have
accomplished this and I ambetter than you.
SPEAKER_03 (34:40):
I am almighty.
SPEAKER_00 (34:41):
What it does is it confuses the system mentally and
chemistry-wise.
So then you can't identify thefeel-goods in it because you've
confused the feel-good with thenot feeling so good, and it
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confuses one.
SPEAKER_04 (35:06):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (35:06):
So then they turn off the identification process
of feeling good and not feelinggood because they're confused.
Right.
And that happens because in themoment when you accomplish
something, you get that dopaminedrop.
Yep.
And this feels really good, andI like it, and yay me, and
you're excited because you'veaccomplished it.
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But then the minute you stopwith that and you think, oh, you
know what?
I'm gonna go and I'm gonna tellmy sibling because they were
never able to accomplish it.
So I'm gonna go brag, right?
SPEAKER_03 (35:42):
Look at me.
SPEAKER_00 (35:43):
Most people will uh identify it as bragging.
I'm gonna go brag.
And that then underneatheverything, unconsciously, it
doesn't feel good because it'snot your natural state of being,
because you've taken the prideand turned it into that negative
side of pride ego, um, whichdoesn't feel good.
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So then what happens is there'sa different kind of chemical
drop in the body.
And so then it starts to mimicalmost kind of like a guilt
depression kind of feeling inthe body, and it begins to not
feel good that you accomplishedthat.
(36:28):
Right.
And so then sometimes what canhappen is the physical and
mental body can get confused,and when they get confused, it
can turn the volume of thatdown, yeah, and then they stop
being able to clearly identifythe feel-good moments in it,
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yeah, because it got confusedwith a not so feel-good
additional moment in it.
Yep.
And they got entangled uhtogether.
So then you get to a place, ifyou practice that habit long
enough, you get to a place whereyou cannot identify the good.
SPEAKER_03 (37:10):
Or the bad.
SPEAKER_00 (37:12):
And sometimes you can't identify the bad or the
negative within it.
SPEAKER_04 (37:17):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (37:18):
So then life feels very stagnant and feels like
you're in a rut because youdon't feel like you have any
emotion at all.
And it's deflecting, yep.
Right.
You can't, well, and it'll bringabout frustration and anger at
the world, grumpiness, yeah,because you can't identify
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anything and you feel kind ofcold and empty on the inside.
Like you can't, like I'veactually had clients come and
say, I feel numb or empty on theinside.
SPEAKER_01 (37:50):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (37:51):
And that's because you've entangled these two
concepts to a point where you'reconfused mentally,
energetically.
SPEAKER_03 (38:00):
And the guidance system is off.
SPEAKER_00 (38:01):
And right, and and it's kind of temporarily shut
itself off because it doesn'tknow how to navigate both
programs running.
And uh the two programs kind ofhave conflicted with each other
and basically crashed thesystem.
Right.
So then you go into this kind ofjust rut.
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I'm stuck in a rut, I can't feelanything, I feel cold and empty,
I don't know how to be happy.
Right.
Those are some of the thingsyou'll hear yourself or others
say when they're in that place.
SPEAKER_03 (38:33):
I don't deserve nothing.
SPEAKER_00 (38:34):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (38:34):
And that's how they get there is because they've
well, we see this a lot inaddicts and and you know, uh
like a good point is they get sonumb to you know we get like me,
even me.
I get so numb to doing what Iused to do that I'm living in
the past and I expect myself torepeat history, but yet I'm not
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that person I was in the past.
SPEAKER_00 (38:59):
Yeah, and so it causes a rut.
Now through your growth anddevelopment, that those things
generally most often don't workanymore.
Right.
But you're wanting to create,it's not that you're wanting to
create the past, right?
It's that you're wanting tocreate the feeling that it gave
you.
SPEAKER_04 (39:18):
That's right.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (39:19):
And you don't know how to find that in your current
state of being.
And so you pull the historyforward, trying to do the same
action steps that gave it to youthe first time.
SPEAKER_04 (39:33):
Yep.
SPEAKER_00 (39:33):
But because you're a different person, you don't
always sometimes it works, andsometimes you can recreate it.
SPEAKER_04 (39:41):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (39:41):
But most of the time, I would say eight times
out of ten, you're not able torecreate the scenario exactly
the same because you're adifferent person.
SPEAKER_04 (39:50):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (39:50):
And so then it doesn't give you that same kind
of feeling, not only from aemotional guidance chart, but
also from a chemical perspectivein the body.
Right.
It doesn't cause a dopaminerelease or a feel-good chemical
in the body because you're adifferent person.
SPEAKER_03 (40:12):
Right.
You know, and that's what that'skind of where I was going with
this is we, you know, if youjust stop and look around the
country and you have, like, forexample, I want to say heroin
addicts, they have identified anemotion and stuck it to this
good feeling they get when theydo heroin.
Yeah.
And they completely lose trackof the majority of the time of
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when they feel sick.
SPEAKER_00 (40:33):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (40:34):
Because they are misidentifying emotions.
SPEAKER_01 (40:36):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (40:37):
And that's what good counselors do.
Good counselors will try to getyou to attach an emotion to a
bad thing.
And bring and the good things.
And they're gonna try to get youto bring that out.
And that's what kind of what youdid for me this morning.
Like when I came out of theshower, I went down.
I'm like, okay, so I'm gonna sitand identify the positives here
and what's going on with mylittle heart uh blood pressure
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problems that are issues.
I wouldn't say problems, this isa little minor issue that I
have.
SPEAKER_00 (41:01):
Right.
But the identifying theaccomplishments in the journey.
SPEAKER_03 (41:08):
Identifying the emotion behind it as well.
SPEAKER_00 (41:10):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (41:10):
And it'll it'll take you down a path of understanding
that wow, you know, I have I Ihave I'm so caught in this same
rut.
I don't emotionally, I don'tknow what to do next.
SPEAKER_01 (41:23):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (41:24):
And so when you can learn to identify and attach an
emotion to those things, thenit'll help you guide through it.
Because that's what youremotions do.
They guide you through life.
SPEAKER_00 (41:34):
That's right.
SPEAKER_03 (41:35):
Uh what do you pain and pleasure and happy and sad,
all that stuff?
SPEAKER_00 (41:39):
Yeah, for sure.
I mean, they are their guidance.
And so if you're experiencing anemotion that you don't
necessarily care for, it's anopportunity to go within and
say, okay, did I uh identifythis from uh a beneficial
perspective?
Did I attach an emotion thatdoesn't belong there?
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And here's a very good one thatum I myself have worked through
and uh worked with severalpeople.
Um boredom.
Yeah, just being so boredomsometimes can get projected off,
especially if you're in apartnership, of I'm bored.
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So I'm gonna blame my partnerfor not interacting with me
rather than figuring out withinmyself what is it that will
bring me joy right this minute?
Finding a way to self-soothe orself-entertain is uh is
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important.
So when I'm bored, it's notbecause you're not playing with
me, it's not because you're notinteracting with me, but people
will say, Oh, my partner is sodistracted and doesn't have time
to interact with me, and soshame on them.
SPEAKER_03 (43:10):
I never get any attention, right?
Yep.
SPEAKER_00 (43:12):
What but uh essentially what's happening is
is that you are not identifyingthat it's you who is stagnant or
bored in your own bubble, andyou're not focusing in on
finding your own uh feel goodjoy in your own bubble.
(43:35):
Yeah, those little moments ofjoy, and when you get practiced
at finding those joyful momentsand that frequency, and
understanding that it doesn'tmean you're doing backflips and
having a big fucking parade allthe time.
That's not necessarily joy.
Joy can be something as simpleas going and taking a nap.
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That's the next feel-good thingright this minute, and letting
that live in that category ofjoy.
Yeah, it can be something thatsimple, or just sitting quietly
in the moment, playing yourfavorite game, decompressing
from a very busy hectic day.
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That can be a simple spot ofjust calm and joy, and we don't
identify those mounds.
I prefer mounds.
You prefer mounds?
Yes, yes, I know you are abreastman.
SPEAKER_03 (44:33):
Not almond joy.
I don't care for almond joy.
SPEAKER_00 (44:36):
Oh, you didn't mean breast.
SPEAKER_03 (44:39):
I'm a breast man.
SPEAKER_00 (44:40):
Mounds.
But that's uh that's one of thethings too, is that joy doesn't
have to be this big extravagantthing either.
It can be tiny, tiny littlemoments of peace and joy that
you put in place.
Right.
And that's kind of but it canalso be big and extravagant.
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You can go to the skating rinkand have a whole day of skating
to the 70s disco music, and thatis joyful and entertaining and
pleasant.
Yeah, but it can be somethingjust as simple as sitting
peacefully in your patio chair,enjoying the stillness of the
lake, watching the little heronbabies run around.
SPEAKER_03 (45:24):
You know, and that's really the the point behind this
whole podcast is you know, westarted out on identifying those
things that you know that egoand pride get in the way of
because if you're if you'redoing the same thing
repetitively expecting differentresults, it's because you're not
giving it emotions in the properway.
And and do you agree with thatstatement, right?
SPEAKER_00 (45:44):
Yeah, you're you're you're not identifying number
one the awareness that it'shappening.
SPEAKER_04 (45:51):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (45:52):
Number two, you're not taking accountability for
you having created it.
SPEAKER_02 (45:58):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (45:58):
And then you're more than likely you're attaching
some sort of heavy vibrationalemotion to it that maybe was
mistagged.
SPEAKER_03 (46:11):
Correct.
Yes.
I I mean I t I totally agreewith you.
And so the whole process ofthis, so everybody listening can
understand, is is getting theego and the and the pride and
the become a little bit humblewith yourself if you're unhappy
with your or with anything,you're not happy.
Stop and identify the emotionswithin it and work through the
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process and see what in it thatyou own and some of it you don't
own.
But we've got to remember, ashumans, we are not the same
person we were even two minutesago.
SPEAKER_01 (46:40):
That's right.
SPEAKER_03 (46:41):
And when we go around chasing our life based on
what happened before, you'reyou're not have you're not
creating what's happening now orin the future.
SPEAKER_00 (46:51):
That's right.
SPEAKER_03 (46:52):
Because you're not going to recreate that.
You can recreate similar things,yeah.
But you're not gonna recreatethat exact moment.
SPEAKER_01 (46:59):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (46:59):
And you and where you have to identify the emotion
within it.
So when it comes to like Ibrought up the example, it's
called it's called somebody ahabitual gambler.
You know, they're a gambler, oror if you are you're a president
in your company and you arebrought something to your
attention, and somebody bringsgood ideas to the table, but
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your company is failing, or yourun that jackpot when you're the
gambler and you want to recreatethat chemical response inside
your body, just like thepresident of the company does
wants to have that chemicalresponse of being successful
again.
You've got to be prideful, Imean, remove your pride out of
the way and be humble enough toattach an emotion to what's
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really going on and be like,okay, wait a minute.
I am smart enough, first of all,to realize that I don't know
everything in the world.
SPEAKER_01 (47:51):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (47:52):
And I gotta be open and receptive to reality of
whatever of somebody else'sthinks, but I also have to
attach an emotion to that.
SPEAKER_00 (48:00):
Right.
And then also kind of identifyif I keep doing this same thing,
is it actually working?
SPEAKER_03 (48:10):
Right.
Yep.
SPEAKER_00 (48:11):
If I am look for patterns.
Right.
If I am going through the samepattern over and over and over,
is it giving me differentresults and is it getting me
where I want to be?
And if it's not, then maybe nowis time to do something
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different.
SPEAKER_03 (48:35):
I agree.
I I totally agree.
And that that emotional guidancesystems is what's going to bring
you out of that spot.
Removal of the ego, letting thepride be there, but remember
you're not the same person youwere then, and attach the
emotions and then uh let theemotional guidance system guide
you right out of it.
SPEAKER_00 (48:52):
Right.
Yeah.
If there's an emotion attachedto it that you don't necessarily
prefer, stop and ask yourself,okay, what is the emotion I'm
trying to accomplish?
SPEAKER_04 (49:02):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (49:03):
And first identify that.
SPEAKER_04 (49:05):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (49:06):
Identify what it is you're wanting to feel so that
you know where you're hidden.
SPEAKER_04 (49:13):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (49:14):
Otherwise, you're gonna get off track and you're
not really gonna know what thesteps are.
Then addressing the emotion youare having.
SPEAKER_03 (49:26):
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (49:26):
If you're sad in a situation, identifying that
you're feeling sad because somepeople are not even in the place
where they can give it a name.
SPEAKER_04 (49:35):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (49:35):
They just know that they feel this way and they
don't know if it's sad or ifit's angry or frustration.
Some people are so disconnectedfrom their emotions, they can't
even give it uh a name.
SPEAKER_03 (49:48):
Right.
Yeah, totally.
SPEAKER_00 (49:49):
Uh so check in with what is it that you feel?
What does it feel?
Try to give it a name on that uhon that scale so that you can
actually work with it.
SPEAKER_03 (50:00):
I think we should talk about whatever the.
SPEAKER_00 (50:03):
Let me put in this little trick.
SPEAKER_03 (50:05):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (50:06):
If you can't, if you're not at a place where you
can actually identify theemotion in the traditional way,
sad, happy, mad, frustrated, uh,whatever, give it its own name.
Ben, Frank, Harry, and talk toit like that and have it
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communic, give it give it openspace to communicate back to
you.
What are you?
Okay, we're gonna call you Benfor right now.
I don't know what you are, butplay a little game with
yourself.
All right, Ben, I don't knowwhat you are.
I just know that I can I canfeel that you're there.
Can you communicate with me onwhat you are?
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What are you?
And there'll be information thatcomes forth.
Well, so like if if you can'tidentify okay, so we're gonna go
here with it.
In men, society teaches you it'snot okay to be sad and tearful
because it's weak.
(51:11):
Okay.
You follow me?
SPEAKER_03 (51:12):
I'm following you.
SPEAKER_00 (51:13):
So if you spent your entire life, 40, 50 years, of
ignoring sadness and the tearfulmoments in life, you've
completely almost uh dissolvedand erased the title of sadness.
SPEAKER_03 (51:32):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (51:33):
It still is something that you feel, but
you're not recognizing it, andyou certainly at this point
don't know what to call it.
SPEAKER_04 (51:40):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (51:42):
And sometimes that frustration of of having removed
the title can create confusion,which then in turn can come out
as um anger, yeah, deflection,getting mad at other people,
because you you can't define itwithin your own self.
(52:04):
Right.
Um, it can also come out as amonotoned persona where you
don't show any emotion becauseyou don't know what it is,
you've forgotten what it is.
Right.
So whenever you are practicingthe awareness concept, making
yourself aware that I feelsomething.
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Doesn't necessarily feel good,but I feel something.
SPEAKER_04 (52:30):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (52:31):
I don't know what to call it.
But for now, I'm gonna give it aname.
Right.
Whatever that name needs to befor you.
Usually for me, if I am in thatsituation of not knowing
something or whatever, I'll giveit a name, like a pain.
(52:52):
I'll call it uh Sheila or Tom orBobby Joe or whatever.
I usually you will give humannames to things.
And I give it uh that what thatthen does is it opens up a an
energy frequency, a line ofcommunication, because you've
given it identity, which thenopens up the acknowledgement of
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its existence.
Yes, you follow me because ifyou don't give it an identity,
then you get to continue toignore it, and it gets to
continue to live in that littlebox where you don't acknowledge
it.
Right.
So giving it an identity, Frank,Tom, Mary, Harry Beast,
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whatever, then you've given itan identity to be aware of.
Oh, you Harry Beast, there youare, there you are again.
I don't know what to call youyet, I don't know what to
identify you as, but for nowyou're gonna be Harry Beast.
So please, here's themicrophone, tell me what you are
and tell me what to do about itbecause I don't like the way you
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feel necessarily, be it a painin your body, be it a emotion in
your system.
unknown (54:09):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (54:09):
Sometimes playing that game and giving an identity
in your practice of being awarewill then open you up and
release the resistance justenough to where you can then get
that intuitive place ofinformation of hello, nice to
meet you again.
I'm sadness.
SPEAKER_04 (54:28):
Yep.
SPEAKER_00 (54:29):
I'm sadness that you tucked away all of those years
because boys are not supposed tocry and be sad, makes them weak.
Then that's where the realhealing and the real evolution
comes from.
But but playing that tiny littlegame with it will help you
sometimes get there.
SPEAKER_03 (54:45):
Right.
And you know, you're you'rehitting on the head of the the
whole thing because you know,with all of this, it takes the
emotions and and if you're notidentifying emotion with
something, you should stop andlook at it just straight up.
And exactly.
No matter what that is, like us,like I you know, we talk about
this all the time.
I've been asked, are youstressed?
I don't know what stress feelslike.
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Yeah.
I don't know what stress is.
SPEAKER_02 (55:06):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (55:07):
And it and I'm not quite sure I want to identify
it, actually.
Um, or you know, like you youhad a really good topic about
men, but there's another part ofit a lot of people don't know.
Okay.
You know, men when we weregrowing up, like you know, back
in the day in uh in our agegroup anyway, you know, we had
to be tough.
SPEAKER_00 (55:25):
Right, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (55:27):
And so we literally have to we don't identify a
pain.
I don't I I don't identify pain.
SPEAKER_01 (55:32):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (55:33):
Um I just ignore it.
And throughout the course ofthis last few weeks, I've been
kind of working through thatwith you and and I appreciate
you that and and appreciate itbecause you know, I just what
does anything hurt?
No, nothing hurts.
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (55:50):
But what was happening is is that pain is a
very large indicator andcommunicator of the physical
body.
Yeah, and if you're not evenidentifying that part of the
language, you're missing out ona very large part of the body's
ability to communicate with you.
SPEAKER_04 (56:07):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (56:08):
Because if something's hurting, it's
indicating that there might besomething going on there in that
spot or in the in the vicinityof it.
SPEAKER_04 (56:16):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (56:17):
So when you're learning to communicate with
your body and discover what thatlanguage looks like, if you
can't even identify with the thepain, because it's been taught
that you don't feel pain, thenyou can't communicate with your
body.
SPEAKER_03 (56:36):
And this is part of being the best you can be.
SPEAKER_00 (56:39):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (56:40):
You know, identifying all these things and
what a great little podcast.
SPEAKER_00 (56:44):
Do it one thing at a time though.
SPEAKER_03 (56:45):
Yeah, oh yeah, don't don't try to eat the whole
elephant.
Don't don't don't eat the wholeelephant's butt.
Eat take it one little bite at atime.
SPEAKER_00 (56:53):
Yeah, you know, pick one topic that resonated with
you if anything did, and andreally sit with that and don't
try to just uh you know changeeverything all at once.
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (57:07):
Don't turn your world upside down.
We're Jenny and I are good atthat, but you know, we we we'll
turn our world upside down, wedon't care.
SPEAKER_00 (57:13):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (57:14):
But I would suggest not everybody do that without
practice.
SPEAKER_00 (57:17):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (57:18):
Some because sometimes that can make
everything really quick if youdon't do it cautiously.
SPEAKER_00 (57:24):
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_03 (57:25):
But anyway, hey, I think that I feel complete to
you.
SPEAKER_00 (57:28):
Yeah, I feel good about it.
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Good morning, everybody.
Welcome back to the spiritualgrind.
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Good morning.
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We are live from Daytona Beach.
Well, on the coldest day of theyear.
SPEAKER_00 (01:02):
We're recording.
SPEAKER_03 (01:04):
We're recorded live.
I always thought that was funnywhen they broadcasted that.
SPEAKER_00 (01:08):
Recorded live from Versus recorded dead?
SPEAKER_03 (01:12):
Yeah, I guess.
I don't know.
Or what?
You remember that years ago whenthey would do that on the news?
They would post somethingrecorded live earlier.
SPEAKER_00 (01:20):
No.
SPEAKER_03 (01:21):
Yeah, I mean duh.
Recorded is always earlier.
And if you're not live, what areyou?
Why are you recording, then whatare you?
I always thought that wasstupid.
But anyway.
Good morning, Sunshine.
SPEAKER_00 (01:38):
Good morning.
SPEAKER_03 (01:40):
How are you today?
SPEAKER_00 (01:42):
Uh I'm I'm good.
You're good.
I'm waiting to see what uhunfolds for the day.
SPEAKER_03 (01:49):
Oh, you're ready.
Are you are you is that yourcue?
You want the topic?
SPEAKER_00 (01:53):
Uh it could be.
SPEAKER_03 (01:55):
Dum dum dum.
I need to have one of thosebuttons.
The topic.
It needs to say, the topic ofthe day.
SPEAKER_02 (02:03):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (02:06):
That would be fun, wouldn't it?
I should have one of thosebuttons.
SPEAKER_01 (02:09):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (02:10):
That would be fun.
SPEAKER_01 (02:11):
Perhaps.
SPEAKER_03 (02:12):
Maybe I need to program one of those.
I might have to do that.
So I have a question for you.
SPEAKER_01 (02:20):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (02:20):
Are you being the best you that you can be?
SPEAKER_00 (02:26):
Is that a rhetorical question?
Or do you really want theanswer?
SPEAKER_03 (02:30):
Well, no, it's it's actually where my mind is today,
because you know, with whatwe're talking about and dealing
with and in the shower, I'mthinking.
Because you brought to myattention that I am a creature
of habit and I am bullheadedsometimes.
SPEAKER_00 (02:48):
And and uh Wow, don't make everybody think I'm
such a hard-nosed Oh, who am Ikidding?
I am.
SPEAKER_03 (03:01):
I don't know anybody that don't think that you're
hard-nosed when it comes tospiritualism.
SPEAKER_00 (03:06):
Whatever.
SPEAKER_03 (03:07):
You're just direct.
And that's okay.
That's our relationship, and Ilove it.
So that's what we do.
And so I'm in the shower todayafter we have our conversation,
and I'm thinking, how do I bethe best be I can?
I mean, how do I be the best meI can be?
I have to be able to look atthose things and take corrective
criticism.
SPEAKER_00 (03:29):
Yeah, I mean, it's beneficial when anybody can do
that.
Um, because we have to remember,it's you know, the same same
thing.
It uh your environment's nothappening to you, it's happening
for you.
And every component of yourenvironment is a mirror because
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the end game or the the goal inall of this is self-growth and
self-evolution.
That's why this whole game ishere.
SPEAKER_03 (04:04):
I I agree you, I agree totally with your
statement, but I'm gonna digressback to something for a moment.
Sure.
Because you are so advanced thatsometimes you leave out steps
for people.
SPEAKER_00 (04:15):
I try not to, and I don't uh I I know you try not
to.
I that's why I have you.
SPEAKER_03 (04:22):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (04:24):
That's how we balance each other out because I
know that wait a minute, wait aminute.
SPEAKER_03 (04:29):
There is a dig in there somewhere.
You're the oh yeah, dummytakeover, your while the smart
one sits over and waits.
SPEAKER_00 (04:37):
While the rest of the world catches up.
SPEAKER_03 (04:39):
Yeah, yeah.
But the what I'm talking aboutis the steps to understanding
yourself more and being open andnot egotistical, because I
myself have been a very pridefuland egotistical guy most of my
life.
And learning a new way to think,and and and I don't want to say
that in a negative way, becauseand I want to do that.
SPEAKER_00 (05:01):
Well, I want to preface it by saying, you know,
I addressed this ego expectationjudgment in an article that I
recently wrote, uh, which youcan find on uh my blog To the
Edge and Back with Dr.
Jenny.
And I broke those three conceptsdown because there is a
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beneficial side to ego,expectation, and judgment.
It's just that if you take themtoo far in uh in a particular
direction, they can uh becounterintuitive or
counterproductive.
SPEAKER_03 (05:40):
I I agree with you because you know I used um my
ego in a very false way for manyyears.
SPEAKER_01 (05:49):
Okay, say more.
SPEAKER_03 (05:51):
Uh like for example, I when when I felt like I was um
inadequate in something, I woulduse my ego to bounce out of
that.
SPEAKER_00 (06:00):
Yeah, that's real common for most people actually.
SPEAKER_03 (06:03):
And but when now I'm in a place of I'm trying to
figure out how to be the bestme.
And and be able to take thosethings that I view myself as
having shortcomings in.
SPEAKER_01 (06:15):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (06:16):
And be open and receptive to learning within
those areas, and be open andreceptive to other people's
opinions because reality isperception.
SPEAKER_00 (06:27):
Well, yeah, and you know, remembering that higher
self, God, counsels, whateveryou're calling that uh higher
element of yourself is alwaysgonna put you in a situation
that best fits where you're atto be able to hear the next
piece of information that youneed along your journey.
SPEAKER_03 (06:50):
Right.
You know, and ego for me was afilter.
SPEAKER_00 (06:54):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (06:54):
So, like for example, it filtered the stuff
that I viewed as weakness ornegatives, uh-huh.
And moved it over into the fileof one day I'll change.
And or do I really want tochange that?
Or, you know, it would there wasmany parts of that that uh in my
ego filter that would movethings into places and we end up
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creating habits within our egowhen it's filtering things.
And so, like for example, thismorning, you know, or actually I
want to say this before ourrelationship started many years
back, when i I I would not havesat and talked through things
like this to people, first ofall, because there'd never have
been anybody that that couldhandle that kind of a
(07:38):
conversation.
SPEAKER_01 (07:38):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (07:39):
And B is my ego would have got in the way.
And every now and then it doesrear its head.
SPEAKER_00 (07:46):
And of course.
SPEAKER_03 (07:48):
And so, like when our conversation this morning
happened, it made me stop andsay, you know, am I I'm not
being the best me I can bebecause of why.
And so like when I went and tookmy shower, I was in there, I was
and it's like my ego and mypride and my insecurities.
And so, like, I understand whatego does within it.
(08:10):
And I hope everybody else cantake an opportunity to look at
it and say, when somebody bringssomething to your attention and
you get defensive, ask yourselfwhy.
And that is the key, I think thekey to that.
SPEAKER_00 (08:24):
Definitely one of the keys.
The other exposing factor iswhen somebody brings something
to you and you immediately feelthe need to go into a
justification story, then that'salso an indicator of looking at
(08:44):
why.
Why do you feel like you have tojustify your action?
Uh, because there's obviouslysomething there to it as well.
SPEAKER_03 (08:52):
I agree.
You know, the the part of it forme is my pride, you know.
So ego is pretty easy tounderstand.
Everybody understands ego.
Well, they perceive that theyunderstand ego.
Let me rephrase that.
Right.
And they most people log ego asnegative.
And all it is is a filter, it'sa human filter.
(09:14):
Because when you develop ego,then you you are generally have
it's a false kind of pride.
SPEAKER_00 (09:23):
It can be.
The other side of that coin isthat ego is also a confident uh
assertion of identity, which isa positive side of that.
SPEAKER_03 (09:37):
I would agree.
I would agree with that.
Now, with the pride side, when apride comes in, what I mean by
ego sometimes can become a falsepride, is pride is something
that you have accomplishedbefore, no matter what it is.
SPEAKER_01 (09:51):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (09:52):
You you become prideful and gives you
self-worth and self-value.
And when you reflect your egoand develop a self-pride because
that's a filter to protectyourself, your pride can be can
come through as an aggressive orirritated, altered spot.
(10:12):
Right.
And for me, that's the that'swhere the the spot is.
Like if you'd like to give yourdoctor perspective a pride, I
would love to hear that.
SPEAKER_00 (10:23):
Yeah, I mean, there is definitely a different energy
between being proud of anaccomplishment or an achievement
or a growth and being proud ofthat.
And when you're in that energyof just being proud of yourself,
it comes from a place of notnecessarily needing the
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perspectives, the opinions of anoutside source.
You can just be proud withinyourself of the accomplishments
that you've made.
It doesn't make you feel likeyou need to go and like Paul
Revere shot it from therooftops, hey, look at me, I did
this.
SPEAKER_03 (11:06):
Look at me, look what I can do, look at me, look
what I can do.
SPEAKER_00 (11:08):
It can just be an internal proud moment of your
accomplishment or something thatyou share with your person or be
proud of what you all haveaccomplished together.
SPEAKER_04 (11:18):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (11:19):
When it changes energy, is when you use it as a
perspective of needing to shareit with the rest of the world as
a I'm better than you.
Yep.
Projected ego projection.
SPEAKER_04 (11:38):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (11:39):
I am my prowess gets morphed into oh, you did that.
Well, I did this, which isbetter than kind of that one-up
mentality.
That's where it changes.
That's the pivotal point whereit changes.
So then you want, it's almostkind of like you you brag about
(12:02):
it, put it in people's pace,face of wanting them to
acknowledge your achievementsand accomplishments so that you
get a false acknowledgement ofsomebody else being proud of you
from a negative kind of energyor vibration of this makes me
(12:27):
better than the rest of theworld.
This makes me better thansomeone that I see is um what it
does is it reveals if I'm havinga perspective of myself not
quite up to par in this topic,but then I do something that
(12:48):
gives me a proud moment ofachievement, and then take it to
that next place of yep, Iaccomplished this today, and so
therefore I am gonna share itwith you, but share it with you
in such a manner of me beingbetter than you now because my
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score was this and yours wasonly this.
Right, yeah.
Right.
Um that's where it changes.
SPEAKER_03 (13:18):
I agree.
And you know, for me, like andthis is I think this is a thing
that a lot of people misconstrueabout themselves, is you you
gotta be real careful of thepride as well, because this is
why like I view myself as veryversed in business business,
very versed in in uh the abilityto create financial abundance
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and how to maintain thatfinancial abundance.
I view myself very experiencedin that.
But over the last three or fourmonths my pridefulness of
business Acumen, is that right?
Is it Acumen?
Business Acumen, something likethat has changed because you
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know, we're going into a wholenew world.
You know, we're developing thisapp, and I'm I've had to really
stop and learn business from adifferent perspective.
SPEAKER_00 (14:17):
Yeah, from a different angle.
SPEAKER_03 (14:19):
And so my pride field.
And this right, and this this iswhere people get confused and
get off track, I think.
And this is why this is comingup, is because we we revert back
to ego.
And instead of being humbleenough to say, wait a minute,
hey, you know, yes, I havemultiple years experience in
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business, proven experience andmaking millions and millions and
millions of dollars.
And here I am now, and I'm like,oh whoa.
A lot of people would jump intotheir ego, I got this.
Yeah, you know.
And instead of being humbleenough to say, you know what, I
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don't know this.
SPEAKER_01 (15:03):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (15:03):
And I've got to learn.
And that can be on anything,anywhere.
They know, business is just anexample.
Like like we're learning thishappened.
I've had to learn how to createwebsites, and I've actually
learned how to code a littlebit, and and how that works.
And then there's a whole notherlevel of this that I'm not even
to yet, and that is themarketing of it.
SPEAKER_00 (15:24):
Right.
Figuring out how to do it inthis new playing field, yes, and
utilizing the skills andabilities that you have already
in existence, figuring out newcreative, out-of-the-box ways
that you can use what youalready know and morph them into
this new uh way of marketing orthis new uh theme or this new
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platform of existence,basically.
SPEAKER_03 (15:53):
Yes.
And that's where a lot of peopleget challenged, I think, is
understanding that hey, you canbe prideful.
You can but when you stoplearning is where your pride
will diminish.
Your self-work starts stopsgoing away because now your ego
is getting in the way oflearning.
And when your ego should beprompting you to learn.
SPEAKER_01 (16:15):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (16:16):
And so relabeling that type of reaction is where a
lot of people go wrong.
SPEAKER_00 (16:23):
Yeah, definitely.
Instead of going about it of, Ihave plenty of business
knowledge, I got this.
SPEAKER_04 (16:31):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (16:32):
That's a much different energy than coming at
it of realizing, yep, I havelots of knowledge and I'm proud
of where I've come from.
But this is an area where I'vegot to be open to learning a new
way, learning a new way ofexistence, learning a new way of
doing it, and allowing that thenallows the teachers to come in,
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whatever it is, be it a video,be it actually somebody that
teaches you how to do it orwhatever, come in and you being
open-minded, open-eared to beable to hear the information and
actually learn from it.
Whereas if you stayed in thategotistical place of I've got 30
plus years of experience in asuccessful business, you can
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tell me what you want, and Iwill decide if I digest it and
conceptualize it in my head ornot.
SPEAKER_04 (17:31):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (17:32):
That's where you begin to close yourself off and
you stop learning what othershave to give you because you're
in that fine that mind framethat there's no more.
Yeah, we call it ego on thenegative side of the coin.
There's no more than anybody canpossibly teach me because I
already know I have 30 plusyears of experience.
(17:52):
I already know everything thereis to know.
Right.
And that'll trip you up and itwill prevent you from being able
to learn more and it willactually complicate your
journey.
And what I have seen is thatwhen someone goes into a new
adventure, they find that theold ways of doing business as
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they learned it, even thoughthey've got 30 plus years, some
of those techniques are notadaptable to the new way, but
yet they force that into placeand only to find out that it's
not gonna work and they gotta goback to the drawing board, which
wastes not only time and money,effort, but then they have to
(18:40):
stop eventually and do someinternal work of dealing with
their very big ego about it,right?
And some people never get there.
SPEAKER_03 (18:51):
You know, like and here's a prime a very good
example that came to mind whenyou said that.
You know, we're developing thisapp, and there are parts of this
business that I understandcompletely.
I thought I let me rephrasethat.
I thought I understoodcompletely.
SPEAKER_01 (19:09):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (19:10):
And one example of that is the investor side.
SPEAKER_01 (19:13):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (19:14):
And what I come to realize was the investing part
of it's pretty much the same.
SPEAKER_01 (19:20):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (19:20):
But when you change business, those investors are
completely different people.
SPEAKER_01 (19:26):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (19:27):
And so yes, like before I could go into the
restaurant or to the real estateworld and have no problem
communicating that language andtalking to that and talking to
these people and and you know,about the product or the or the
property or or the restaurant orwhatever.
SPEAKER_00 (19:44):
Or the objective.
SPEAKER_03 (19:45):
Or the objective.
Right.
I have zero problem with that.
But I came to the realization inthis, I'm like, it is set up the
same, but the people and theactions are way different.
SPEAKER_00 (19:57):
And the lingo is probably different.
SPEAKER_03 (19:59):
The lingo is way different.
I mean, they use acronyms foreverything.
I'm like, huh?
But everything's AFC, UFC, IPC,UI, whatever.
You know.
Exactly.
And so I've had to take a givemyself a crash course on all
this stuff.
And and but it's very refreshingto know that I can still do that
and identify it.
Now, here is the point of thisthat I I want to get to.
SPEAKER_01 (20:22):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (20:23):
Is when we get to the point that we're we're in
this spot that we're in a rut.
You know, because this is one ofthe things that I I heard this
conversation happen yesterday atthe barber shop when I was in
the getting my hair cut.
And the conversation was a lady,uh, she was uh breaking up with
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her partner.
unknown (20:46):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (20:46):
They were getting divorced, yada yada yada.
And uh she was talking about howher parents were trying to help
her move out and all kind ofthis other things, and and her
parents wanted to go everythingshe ever bought she should go
get, or they bought they needshe needs to get out of the
house, and she said she wouldn'tdo that.
(21:06):
And she was sitting thereexplaining this to the person
cutting her hair.
Like I was like, No, I finallyhad to put my foot down to my
parents, no, I'm not gonna bethat kind of person.
You know, I I too had ownershipin this breakup.
I had parts of this that I didwrong.
SPEAKER_01 (21:23):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (21:23):
And she had parts of it that she did wrong.
SPEAKER_01 (21:25):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (21:26):
But for me, I'm not gonna be that person.
I'm gonna identify.
She was sitting there in thechair, and the barber was like,
Wow.
Uh you know, that's big of youto talk like that.
SPEAKER_00 (21:39):
And so what you're saying is that her parents were
encouraging her to like take thegroup money or something.
SPEAKER_03 (21:47):
The group money, the furniture of the house, the
holster bank.
SPEAKER_00 (21:50):
Oh, I see.
Because the I guess thebasically go in and clean house
and take everything over fromthe She don't deserve nothing,
you know?
SPEAKER_03 (21:59):
I see.
Okay, okay and so but she wassitting there explaining all
this, and the barber was liketaken aback by it.
And I turned to her, I was like,man, that was that's very, very
self-aware.
SPEAKER_01 (22:10):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (22:11):
And there aren't too many people in this world that
can that have that quality.
And she said, Oh no, I didn'tbefore.
SPEAKER_01 (22:16):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (22:17):
Until I got so sad at this moment, and I got my ego
out of the way, and I sat downand talked to myself.
And I and then I called a friendof mine and said, Did you see me
doing these things?
And the friend and she said, Iwant you to be brutally honest,
was on the phone.
She said, Yes, I did.
I saw you treating this personthis way, I saw you doing this,
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I saw you doing that.
And she said that really hithome.
But I had to get my ego out ofthe way.
SPEAKER_00 (22:43):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03 (22:44):
And I was like, Well, that you know, that's very
self-aware and mad props.
You know, and of course, then Itold her about the podcast and
yada yada yada.
But I was more floored by thebarber and the reaction.
SPEAKER_01 (22:58):
Why?
SPEAKER_03 (22:59):
Because it was at a point the barber was saying,
Wow, I would never do that.
I would never do that.
I'm almost trying to encourageher to to not be that way.
And I was like, Why would youand that?
So I just turned and I was like,Why would you encourage somebody
not to be self-aware?
Because that is one of thebiggest parts that will help you
grow.
SPEAKER_00 (23:20):
Yeah.
And what was her answer?
Or his answer.
SPEAKER_03 (23:24):
He just looked at me.
It just looked at me.
So I was like, and and I turnedback around and finished getting
my hair cut.
But the girl thanked me foracknowledging her self-awareness
and she said, I have a lot tolearn.
And I'm like, Well, you'vealready learned the biggest step
of it.
SPEAKER_00 (23:38):
Right.
I mean, you know as well as Ido, my very first step in every
single process isself-awareness.
Yep.
When you can get to a placewhere you are self-aware of your
own actions within anycircumstance, situation, event,
relationship, and then takingownership and accountability for
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your part in it, um, that's thebiggest, that's the biggest and
primary story.
SPEAKER_03 (24:06):
100% agree.
SPEAKER_00 (24:08):
For sure.
SPEAKER_03 (24:08):
It it gets to a point with people, and this is
this is where I wanted thispodcast to go, is when you're at
a point that you're feeling likeyou're stuck in a rut.
And uh, because that was onepoint that she made.
She's like, I felt like the lastthree years was just like watch
and repeat, wash and repeat.
SPEAKER_00 (24:23):
Well, they were, basically.
SPEAKER_03 (24:25):
And she said, you know, and then you when you can
make yourself self-aware and getyour ego out of the way, that's
the biggest way to move forwardin your journey.
SPEAKER_00 (24:33):
Absolutely.
That's when you begin to see thebiggest uh change and
transformation in your realityis just becoming self-aware.
Right.
As a matter of fact, it's such abig component that if you have
beliefs in place that aremucking up your reality,
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sometimes just becoming aware ofyour part in the play or your
part in the situation willautomatically dissolve some of
those beliefs that are no longernecessary, or even uh give them
space to rewrite themselves justfrom becoming self-aware in the
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in the situation that's going onat hand.
SPEAKER_03 (25:19):
And so that's like where uh where I'm at with me is
I'm like identifying things nowthat I've you know, as after our
conversation this morning, I'midentifying things.
I'm like, because we get caughthabits.
You know, like uh I wasfrustrated and and I projected
that frustration on you.
But I didn't even recognize thatI did it.
SPEAKER_01 (25:38):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (25:39):
I don't even remember doing it.
SPEAKER_01 (25:40):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (25:41):
Because my ego or whatever was in the way, and and
that's not right either.
And so I would, you know, tellpeople it it it doesn't matter
what the subject is, becausewhat we're personally talking
about is my health.
SPEAKER_02 (25:55):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (25:56):
You know, but we use the example of business.
You can use this in finance, thesame thing.
You know, and when you stoplooking at options to improve,
then you're becoming stagnant inyour growth.
SPEAKER_00 (26:09):
Yeah, these concepts that we talk about and these
things to try that we talkabout, they apply to all areas
of what I call the life pie.
Relationships, business, career,finances, the steps are the
same.
You have to identify what andbecome aware of how you're
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interacting with the topic.
And that's the key first step.
I agree.
I I that's the biggest componentis uh awareness and then
accountability.
What part did I have in it?
Because the the rabbit holetopic here is that it's your
reality.
(26:55):
I was waiting for this to comeout, and you're you're creating
your reality for the benefit ofgrowth and expansion.
And so inadvertently, whetheryou even realize that you're
doing it or not, you're creatingthese situations and these
interactions with people,places, and events and your
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reality so that you can grow andevolve.
That's why I tell you, none ofthis is happening to you by
other people, places, andevents.
It's happening for you by designbecause you're the one creating
your reality.
Nobody else is.
You're the one giving life themeaning through your emotional
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guidance system, nobody else is.
You're making those choices allalong the way of your journey.
You're deciding if this is gonnahave an emotional counterpart to
this thing that you'veexperienced or this topic.
You're the one that's gonnadecide how you perceive it and
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then what your next actions aregonna be within it, because
again, we don't control otherpeople.
We can only control ourperceptions, our actions, our
interactions within anysituation, circumstance, event,
or interaction with anotherhuman being.
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You can't make any of those beany different until you deal
with the blueprint, i.e., thebelief system of where you're
coming from.
That's creating your reality andbeing aware that you are
creating your reality and howyou're creating it through the
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negative side of ego or throughthe uh not so beneficial side of
expectation or judgment or uhweird, wonky beliefs in place,
right?
Then you are gonna find yourselfstuck in a rut.
Right.
Because you basically go on arobotic autopilot doing the same
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thing in the same in the sameloop because you're not
activating the system to doanything different.
Right.
Because you don't know thatyou're doing anything because
you haven't taught yourself tobe aware and accountable.
SPEAKER_03 (29:20):
Agreed.
SPEAKER_00 (29:21):
So then it just ends up in a big loop, rinse and
repeat.
SPEAKER_03 (29:25):
Yeah, see you and you touched on, I think the next
part of this is the emotionsbehind it.
SPEAKER_00 (29:29):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (29:30):
And the the emotion for it for me can you know, for
me it was like frustration, andthen it was like sadness,
because I was like, golly Imean, am I that much of a
douche?
SPEAKER_00 (29:47):
Would you consider yourself Summers Easter vinegar
or equate brand vinegar andwater?
SPEAKER_03 (29:56):
You know, the because it it is, it can be when
your ego gets in the way, thenyou try to fall on pride, but
you can't fall on pride becauseyou don't know everything, and
then you attach an emotion toit, and the emotional roller
coaster behind it was a rollercoaster.
It wasn't really a rollercoaster, that's a little
dramatic, but it was more likelike dang, I'm Smarter than
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that.
I'm better than that.
And when because the day I quitlearning is the day that I
become the most stagnant livinghuman being on this planet.
And if you're happy with whereyou are, you should look at your
your unhappiness.
Because a lot of people hidetheir unhappiness by their
happy.
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (30:39):
And fake it till you make it.
SPEAKER_03 (30:41):
They fake it.
And w and I don't mind tellingeverybody go out and get
divorced today.
What I'm talking about is trulylook at where you are and weigh
your unhappy till you're unhappyside.
And look at it because that'swhat I had to do through this
scenario was I'm happy with whatI'm doing, but I'm unhappy with
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this.
But I'm not identifying thepositives.
And I'm not identifying thenegatives.
Because that's four differentthings.
SPEAKER_00 (31:11):
You're just kind of complacent.
SPEAKER_03 (31:13):
Right.
I was just like expecting thedoing the same thing
repetitively, expectingdifferent results.
And when you do the same thingrepetitively, it it be it can
become ingrained in yoursubconscious mind.
And you don't even realizeyou're doing it.
SPEAKER_00 (31:27):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Which is what we call a habit oror a program.
SPEAKER_04 (31:33):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (31:33):
You're running a background program that you're
not even aware that you'redoing, and it just becomes like
a habitual routine in yourbubble, and you find yourself
falling back on it.
You can even do that even whenyou've come to a place of
awareness.
SPEAKER_03 (31:52):
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (31:53):
When you recognize that, oh, you know what?
This is a pattern I see, and I'mthe common denominator.
If you've been practicing thathabit for an extended period of
time, it sometimes can be alittle tricky to yank yourself
out of that habit.
(32:15):
And so for the first little bit,you have to stay hyper-vigilant
on catching yourself in thehabit so you can make changes
right then to readjust thecalibration of what you want to
align with.
Correct.
Um, otherwise you'llinadvertently go back into that
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habit.
SPEAKER_03 (32:36):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (32:36):
You know, when you're not thinking about it.
SPEAKER_03 (32:39):
And the emotions behind it is what navigate you.
We talk about this all the time.
Yeah.
Your emotions are a guidancesystem.
Oh, absolutely.
And I think a lot of peopleattach um false happy to pride
or ego.
And pride or ego are not is notan emotion.
Yes, it's a mindset.
SPEAKER_00 (32:56):
Right.
Especially when um they you can.
You can tangle that up and youcan get confused about it.
SPEAKER_04 (33:05):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (33:06):
Um and like pride, like you gave yourself an
example of pride, uh, beingproud that you've achieved
something can get very quicklytangled up in, oh, I'm so happy
I achieved that.
Look at me, and then you goblabbing that to everybody, ha
(33:27):
ha, look at me, kind of energy,which turns ego, which you can
miscategorize as I'm happy,right?
And um, but because you'vetwisted it into that uh not so
beneficial ego side of things,right, then it doesn't feel good
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anymore because it's not yournatural state of being.
SPEAKER_03 (33:53):
It causes an a a loop of presence.
SPEAKER_00 (33:56):
And so it causes a confusion, a point of confusion.
SPEAKER_03 (33:59):
Because this is where I see this where what I
what I note we identified aboutme was well, this worked in the
past, so I'm gonna continue todo it.
SPEAKER_00 (34:08):
Yeah, and so if I can if I can expound on it just
a little bit more, just to givepeople a little bit more to to
chew on.
When you when you have thatprideful moment and you feel
good about your accomplishment,you know, that feels really
good.
Then when you go and you want toshare that with your friends and
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family, but you do it from aplace of I am now have
accomplished this and I ambetter than you.
SPEAKER_03 (34:40):
I am almighty.
SPEAKER_00 (34:41):
What it does is it confuses the system mentally and
chemistry-wise.
So then you can't identify thefeel-goods in it because you've
confused the feel-good with thenot feeling so good, and it
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confuses one.
SPEAKER_04 (35:06):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (35:06):
So then they turn off the identification process
of feeling good and not feelinggood because they're confused.
Right.
And that happens because in themoment when you accomplish
something, you get that dopaminedrop.
Yep.
And this feels really good, andI like it, and yay me, and
you're excited because you'veaccomplished it.
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But then the minute you stopwith that and you think, oh, you
know what?
I'm gonna go and I'm gonna tellmy sibling because they were
never able to accomplish it.
So I'm gonna go brag, right?
SPEAKER_03 (35:42):
Look at me.
SPEAKER_00 (35:43):
Most people will uh identify it as bragging.
I'm gonna go brag.
And that then underneatheverything, unconsciously, it
doesn't feel good because it'snot your natural state of being,
because you've taken the prideand turned it into that negative
side of pride ego, um, whichdoesn't feel good.
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So then what happens is there'sa different kind of chemical
drop in the body.
And so then it starts to mimicalmost kind of like a guilt
depression kind of feeling inthe body, and it begins to not
feel good that you accomplishedthat.
(36:28):
Right.
And so then sometimes what canhappen is the physical and
mental body can get confused,and when they get confused, it
can turn the volume of thatdown, yeah, and then they stop
being able to clearly identifythe feel-good moments in it,
(36:49):
yeah, because it got confusedwith a not so feel-good
additional moment in it.
Yep.
And they got entangled uhtogether.
So then you get to a place, ifyou practice that habit long
enough, you get to a place whereyou cannot identify the good.
SPEAKER_03 (37:10):
Or the bad.
SPEAKER_00 (37:12):
And sometimes you can't identify the bad or the
negative within it.
SPEAKER_04 (37:17):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (37:18):
So then life feels very stagnant and feels like
you're in a rut because youdon't feel like you have any
emotion at all.
And it's deflecting, yep.
Right.
You can't, well, and it'll bringabout frustration and anger at
the world, grumpiness, yeah,because you can't identify
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anything and you feel kind ofcold and empty on the inside.
Like you can't, like I'veactually had clients come and
say, I feel numb or empty on theinside.
SPEAKER_01 (37:50):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (37:51):
And that's because you've entangled these two
concepts to a point where you'reconfused mentally,
energetically.
SPEAKER_03 (38:00):
And the guidance system is off.
SPEAKER_00 (38:01):
And right, and and it's kind of temporarily shut
itself off because it doesn'tknow how to navigate both
programs running.
And uh the two programs kind ofhave conflicted with each other
and basically crashed thesystem.
Right.
So then you go into this kind ofjust rut.
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I'm stuck in a rut, I can't feelanything, I feel cold and empty,
I don't know how to be happy.
Right.
Those are some of the thingsyou'll hear yourself or others
say when they're in that place.
SPEAKER_03 (38:33):
I don't deserve nothing.
SPEAKER_00 (38:34):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (38:34):
And that's how they get there is because they've
well, we see this a lot inaddicts and and you know, uh
like a good point is they get sonumb to you know we get like me,
even me.
I get so numb to doing what Iused to do that I'm living in
the past and I expect myself torepeat history, but yet I'm not
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that person I was in the past.
SPEAKER_00 (38:59):
Yeah, and so it causes a rut.
Now through your growth anddevelopment, that those things
generally most often don't workanymore.
Right.
But you're wanting to create,it's not that you're wanting to
create the past, right?
It's that you're wanting tocreate the feeling that it gave
you.
SPEAKER_04 (39:18):
That's right.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (39:19):
And you don't know how to find that in your current
state of being.
And so you pull the historyforward, trying to do the same
action steps that gave it to youthe first time.
SPEAKER_04 (39:33):
Yep.
SPEAKER_00 (39:33):
But because you're a different person, you don't
always sometimes it works, andsometimes you can recreate it.
SPEAKER_04 (39:41):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (39:41):
But most of the time, I would say eight times
out of ten, you're not able torecreate the scenario exactly
the same because you're adifferent person.
SPEAKER_04 (39:50):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (39:50):
And so then it doesn't give you that same kind
of feeling, not only from aemotional guidance chart, but
also from a chemical perspectivein the body.
Right.
It doesn't cause a dopaminerelease or a feel-good chemical
in the body because you're adifferent person.
SPEAKER_03 (40:12):
Right.
You know, and that's what that'skind of where I was going with
this is we, you know, if youjust stop and look around the
country and you have, like, forexample, I want to say heroin
addicts, they have identified anemotion and stuck it to this
good feeling they get when theydo heroin.
Yeah.
And they completely lose trackof the majority of the time of
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when they feel sick.
SPEAKER_00 (40:33):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (40:34):
Because they are misidentifying emotions.
SPEAKER_01 (40:36):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (40:37):
And that's what good counselors do.
Good counselors will try to getyou to attach an emotion to a
bad thing.
And bring and the good things.
And they're gonna try to get youto bring that out.
And that's what kind of what youdid for me this morning.
Like when I came out of theshower, I went down.
I'm like, okay, so I'm gonna sitand identify the positives here
and what's going on with mylittle heart uh blood pressure
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problems that are issues.
I wouldn't say problems, this isa little minor issue that I
have.
SPEAKER_00 (41:01):
Right.
But the identifying theaccomplishments in the journey.
SPEAKER_03 (41:08):
Identifying the emotion behind it as well.
SPEAKER_00 (41:10):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (41:10):
And it'll it'll take you down a path of understanding
that wow, you know, I have I Ihave I'm so caught in this same
rut.
I don't emotionally, I don'tknow what to do next.
SPEAKER_01 (41:23):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (41:24):
And so when you can learn to identify and attach an
emotion to those things, thenit'll help you guide through it.
Because that's what youremotions do.
They guide you through life.
SPEAKER_00 (41:34):
That's right.
SPEAKER_03 (41:35):
Uh what do you pain and pleasure and happy and sad,
all that stuff?
SPEAKER_00 (41:39):
Yeah, for sure.
I mean, they are their guidance.
And so if you're experiencing anemotion that you don't
necessarily care for, it's anopportunity to go within and
say, okay, did I uh identifythis from uh a beneficial
perspective?
Did I attach an emotion thatdoesn't belong there?
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And here's a very good one thatum I myself have worked through
and uh worked with severalpeople.
Um boredom.
Yeah, just being so boredomsometimes can get projected off,
especially if you're in apartnership, of I'm bored.
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So I'm gonna blame my partnerfor not interacting with me
rather than figuring out withinmyself what is it that will
bring me joy right this minute?
Finding a way to self-soothe orself-entertain is uh is
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important.
So when I'm bored, it's notbecause you're not playing with
me, it's not because you're notinteracting with me, but people
will say, Oh, my partner is sodistracted and doesn't have time
to interact with me, and soshame on them.
SPEAKER_03 (43:10):
I never get any attention, right?
Yep.
SPEAKER_00 (43:12):
What but uh essentially what's happening is
is that you are not identifyingthat it's you who is stagnant or
bored in your own bubble, andyou're not focusing in on
finding your own uh feel goodjoy in your own bubble.
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Yeah, those little moments ofjoy, and when you get practiced
at finding those joyful momentsand that frequency, and
understanding that it doesn'tmean you're doing backflips and
having a big fucking parade allthe time.
That's not necessarily joy.
Joy can be something as simpleas going and taking a nap.
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That's the next feel-good thingright this minute, and letting
that live in that category ofjoy.
Yeah, it can be something thatsimple, or just sitting quietly
in the moment, playing yourfavorite game, decompressing
from a very busy hectic day.
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That can be a simple spot ofjust calm and joy, and we don't
identify those mounds.
I prefer mounds.
You prefer mounds?
Yes, yes, I know you are abreastman.
SPEAKER_03 (44:33):
Not almond joy.
I don't care for almond joy.
SPEAKER_00 (44:36):
Oh, you didn't mean breast.
SPEAKER_03 (44:39):
I'm a breast man.
SPEAKER_00 (44:40):
Mounds.
But that's uh that's one of thethings too, is that joy doesn't
have to be this big extravagantthing either.
It can be tiny, tiny littlemoments of peace and joy that
you put in place.
Right.
And that's kind of but it canalso be big and extravagant.
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You can go to the skating rinkand have a whole day of skating
to the 70s disco music, and thatis joyful and entertaining and
pleasant.
Yeah, but it can be somethingjust as simple as sitting
peacefully in your patio chair,enjoying the stillness of the
lake, watching the little heronbabies run around.
SPEAKER_03 (45:24):
You know, and that's really the the point behind this
whole podcast is you know, westarted out on identifying those
things that you know that egoand pride get in the way of
because if you're if you'redoing the same thing
repetitively expecting differentresults, it's because you're not
giving it emotions in the properway.
And and do you agree with thatstatement, right?
SPEAKER_00 (45:44):
Yeah, you're you're you're not identifying number
one the awareness that it'shappening.
SPEAKER_04 (45:51):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (45:52):
Number two, you're not taking accountability for
you having created it.
SPEAKER_02 (45:58):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (45:58):
And then you're more than likely you're attaching
some sort of heavy vibrationalemotion to it that maybe was
mistagged.
SPEAKER_03 (46:11):
Correct.
Yes.
I I mean I t I totally agreewith you.
And so the whole process ofthis, so everybody listening can
understand, is is getting theego and the and the pride and
the become a little bit humblewith yourself if you're unhappy
with your or with anything,you're not happy.
Stop and identify the emotionswithin it and work through the
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process and see what in it thatyou own and some of it you don't
own.
But we've got to remember, ashumans, we are not the same
person we were even two minutesago.
SPEAKER_01 (46:40):
That's right.
SPEAKER_03 (46:41):
And when we go around chasing our life based on
what happened before, you'reyou're not have you're not
creating what's happening now orin the future.
SPEAKER_00 (46:51):
That's right.
SPEAKER_03 (46:52):
Because you're not going to recreate that.
You can recreate similar things,yeah.
But you're not gonna recreatethat exact moment.
SPEAKER_01 (46:59):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (46:59):
And you and where you have to identify the emotion
within it.
So when it comes to like Ibrought up the example, it's
called it's called somebody ahabitual gambler.
You know, they're a gambler, oror if you are you're a president
in your company and you arebrought something to your
attention, and somebody bringsgood ideas to the table, but
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your company is failing, or yourun that jackpot when you're the
gambler and you want to recreatethat chemical response inside
your body, just like thepresident of the company does
wants to have that chemicalresponse of being successful
again.
You've got to be prideful, Imean, remove your pride out of
the way and be humble enough toattach an emotion to what's
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really going on and be like,okay, wait a minute.
I am smart enough, first of all,to realize that I don't know
everything in the world.
SPEAKER_01 (47:51):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (47:52):
And I gotta be open and receptive to reality of
whatever of somebody else'sthinks, but I also have to
attach an emotion to that.
SPEAKER_00 (48:00):
Right.
And then also kind of identifyif I keep doing this same thing,
is it actually working?
SPEAKER_03 (48:10):
Right.
Yep.
SPEAKER_00 (48:11):
If I am look for patterns.
Right.
If I am going through the samepattern over and over and over,
is it giving me differentresults and is it getting me
where I want to be?
And if it's not, then maybe nowis time to do something
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different.
SPEAKER_03 (48:35):
I agree.
I I totally agree.
And that that emotional guidancesystems is what's going to bring
you out of that spot.
Removal of the ego, letting thepride be there, but remember
you're not the same person youwere then, and attach the
emotions and then uh let theemotional guidance system guide
you right out of it.
SPEAKER_00 (48:52):
Right.
Yeah.
If there's an emotion attachedto it that you don't necessarily
prefer, stop and ask yourself,okay, what is the emotion I'm
trying to accomplish?
SPEAKER_04 (49:02):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (49:03):
And first identify that.
SPEAKER_04 (49:05):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (49:06):
Identify what it is you're wanting to feel so that
you know where you're hidden.
SPEAKER_04 (49:13):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (49:14):
Otherwise, you're gonna get off track and you're
not really gonna know what thesteps are.
Then addressing the emotion youare having.
SPEAKER_03 (49:26):
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (49:26):
If you're sad in a situation, identifying that
you're feeling sad because somepeople are not even in the place
where they can give it a name.
SPEAKER_04 (49:35):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (49:35):
They just know that they feel this way and they
don't know if it's sad or ifit's angry or frustration.
Some people are so disconnectedfrom their emotions, they can't
even give it uh a name.
SPEAKER_03 (49:48):
Right.
Yeah, totally.
SPEAKER_00 (49:49):
Uh so check in with what is it that you feel?
What does it feel?
Try to give it a name on that uhon that scale so that you can
actually work with it.
SPEAKER_03 (50:00):
I think we should talk about whatever the.
SPEAKER_00 (50:03):
Let me put in this little trick.
SPEAKER_03 (50:05):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (50:06):
If you can't, if you're not at a place where you
can actually identify theemotion in the traditional way,
sad, happy, mad, frustrated, uh,whatever, give it its own name.
Ben, Frank, Harry, and talk toit like that and have it
(50:26):
communic, give it give it openspace to communicate back to
you.
What are you?
Okay, we're gonna call you Benfor right now.
I don't know what you are, butplay a little game with
yourself.
All right, Ben, I don't knowwhat you are.
I just know that I can I canfeel that you're there.
Can you communicate with me onwhat you are?
(50:50):
What are you?
And there'll be information thatcomes forth.
Well, so like if if you can'tidentify okay, so we're gonna go
here with it.
In men, society teaches you it'snot okay to be sad and tearful
because it's weak.
(51:11):
Okay.
You follow me?
SPEAKER_03 (51:12):
I'm following you.
SPEAKER_00 (51:13):
So if you spent your entire life, 40, 50 years, of
ignoring sadness and the tearfulmoments in life, you've
completely almost uh dissolvedand erased the title of sadness.
SPEAKER_03 (51:32):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (51:33):
It still is something that you feel, but
you're not recognizing it, andyou certainly at this point
don't know what to call it.
SPEAKER_04 (51:40):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (51:42):
And sometimes that frustration of of having removed
the title can create confusion,which then in turn can come out
as um anger, yeah, deflection,getting mad at other people,
because you you can't define itwithin your own self.
(52:04):
Right.
Um, it can also come out as amonotoned persona where you
don't show any emotion becauseyou don't know what it is,
you've forgotten what it is.
Right.
So whenever you are practicingthe awareness concept, making
yourself aware that I feelsomething.
(52:25):
Doesn't necessarily feel good,but I feel something.
SPEAKER_04 (52:30):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (52:31):
I don't know what to call it.
But for now, I'm gonna give it aname.
Right.
Whatever that name needs to befor you.
Usually for me, if I am in thatsituation of not knowing
something or whatever, I'll giveit a name, like a pain.
(52:52):
I'll call it uh Sheila or Tom orBobby Joe or whatever.
I usually you will give humannames to things.
And I give it uh that what thatthen does is it opens up a an
energy frequency, a line ofcommunication, because you've
given it identity, which thenopens up the acknowledgement of
(53:18):
its existence.
Yes, you follow me because ifyou don't give it an identity,
then you get to continue toignore it, and it gets to
continue to live in that littlebox where you don't acknowledge
it.
Right.
So giving it an identity, Frank,Tom, Mary, Harry Beast,
(53:40):
whatever, then you've given itan identity to be aware of.
Oh, you Harry Beast, there youare, there you are again.
I don't know what to call youyet, I don't know what to
identify you as, but for nowyou're gonna be Harry Beast.
So please, here's themicrophone, tell me what you are
and tell me what to do about itbecause I don't like the way you
(54:01):
feel necessarily, be it a painin your body, be it a emotion in
your system.
unknown (54:09):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (54:09):
Sometimes playing that game and giving an identity
in your practice of being awarewill then open you up and
release the resistance justenough to where you can then get
that intuitive place ofinformation of hello, nice to
meet you again.
I'm sadness.
SPEAKER_04 (54:28):
Yep.
SPEAKER_00 (54:29):
I'm sadness that you tucked away all of those years
because boys are not supposed tocry and be sad, makes them weak.
Then that's where the realhealing and the real evolution
comes from.
But but playing that tiny littlegame with it will help you
sometimes get there.
SPEAKER_03 (54:45):
Right.
And you know, you're you'rehitting on the head of the the
whole thing because you know,with all of this, it takes the
emotions and and if you're notidentifying emotion with
something, you should stop andlook at it just straight up.
And exactly.
No matter what that is, like us,like I you know, we talk about
this all the time.
I've been asked, are youstressed?
I don't know what stress feelslike.
(55:05):
Yeah.
I don't know what stress is.
SPEAKER_02 (55:06):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (55:07):
And it and I'm not quite sure I want to identify
it, actually.
Um, or you know, like you youhad a really good topic about
men, but there's another part ofit a lot of people don't know.
Okay.
You know, men when we weregrowing up, like you know, back
in the day in uh in our agegroup anyway, you know, we had
to be tough.
SPEAKER_00 (55:25):
Right, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (55:27):
And so we literally have to we don't identify a
pain.
I don't I I don't identify pain.
SPEAKER_01 (55:32):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (55:33):
Um I just ignore it.
And throughout the course ofthis last few weeks, I've been
kind of working through thatwith you and and I appreciate
you that and and appreciate itbecause you know, I just what
does anything hurt?
No, nothing hurts.
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (55:50):
But what was happening is is that pain is a
very large indicator andcommunicator of the physical
body.
Yeah, and if you're not evenidentifying that part of the
language, you're missing out ona very large part of the body's
ability to communicate with you.
SPEAKER_04 (56:07):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (56:08):
Because if something's hurting, it's
indicating that there might besomething going on there in that
spot or in the in the vicinityof it.
SPEAKER_04 (56:16):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (56:17):
So when you're learning to communicate with
your body and discover what thatlanguage looks like, if you
can't even identify with the thepain, because it's been taught
that you don't feel pain, thenyou can't communicate with your
body.
SPEAKER_03 (56:36):
And this is part of being the best you can be.
SPEAKER_00 (56:39):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (56:40):
You know, identifying all these things and
what a great little podcast.
SPEAKER_00 (56:44):
Do it one thing at a time though.
SPEAKER_03 (56:45):
Yeah, oh yeah, don't don't try to eat the whole
elephant.
Don't don't don't eat the wholeelephant's butt.
Eat take it one little bite at atime.
SPEAKER_00 (56:53):
Yeah, you know, pick one topic that resonated with
you if anything did, and andreally sit with that and don't
try to just uh you know changeeverything all at once.
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (57:07):
Don't turn your world upside down.
We're Jenny and I are good atthat, but you know, we we we'll
turn our world upside down, wedon't care.
SPEAKER_00 (57:13):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (57:14):
But I would suggest not everybody do that without
practice.
SPEAKER_00 (57:17):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (57:18):
Some because sometimes that can make
everything really quick if youdon't do it cautiously.
SPEAKER_00 (57:24):
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_03 (57:25):
But anyway, hey, I think that I feel complete to
you.
SPEAKER_00 (57:28):
Yeah, I feel good about it.
SPEAKER_03 (57:29):
Hey guys, we appreciate you all listening
today.
Don't forget to check out ourwebsite,
www.themerchcenters.org.
And a little update on the app.
We are in the process of workingwith the app store to kind of do
a little bit of changes to it.
SPEAKER_01 (57:42):
Yeah.
Right.
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And uh it's gonna actually turn into something
quite nice.
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It was already good.
Yeah, it's gonna be evenleveling up.
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Yeah, we're leveling it up.
And uh so stay tuned for thoseand uh be paying attention to
www.lucidiumworld.com.
SPEAKER_01 (58:04):
Yeah.
unknown (58:04):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (58:05):
Lucidium is spelled L-U-C-I-D-I-U-M.
SPEAKER_00 (58:09):
Yep, that's right.
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And uh you'll you'll find it on the web.
I'm gonna be working on thatpage real soon.
But anyway, so be payingattention to that because that
app is the app is migrating.
SPEAKER_00 (58:20):
Yeah, we are.
We're migrating uh in uh adirection that we were always
gonna go.
Um but with the advice of Appleand uh and the app and and our
intuitive intuition, yeah.
Intuition, uh, we went ahead andopted to uh migrate sooner than
(58:43):
we thought uh because we wantyou to have uh a really
over-the-top experience witheverything.
So very exciting stuff going on.
SPEAKER_03 (58:51):
Yeah, very much so.
SPEAKER_00 (58:52):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (58:52):
Anyway, thank you all for listening.
Don't forget to like, follow,and share.
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