May 8, 2025 • 50 mins
Ever feel stuck in a low-energy rut and wonder how to climb back out? That's exactly what sparked this illuminating conversation about the deeply personal nature of energy management and spiritual alignment.
When asked how to shift negative energy during a "human day," we dive into the fascinating reality that there's no universal formula that works for everyone. Some people find solace in creative activities, others in holding crystals, enjoying a specific beverage, or taking mindful walks. The commonality isn't in what you do, but in how it makes you feel - that sweet spot of higher vibrational frequency that reconnects you with your spiritual center.
What makes this exploration so powerful is the recognition that awareness is the crucial first step. Noticing when something doesn't feel right opens the door to consciously choosing a different path. Life happens for us, not to us, and every challenge presents an opportunity to better understand ourselves. By questioning why something appears in our reality and what it might be teaching us, we transform obstacles into stepping stones.
The conversation takes a fascinating turn when discussing how our bodies communicate symbolically and how medical advice, while valuable, is based on statistical averages rather than individual blueprints. Nobody knows your unique frequency better than you do - you've been with yourself your entire life! This understanding empowers you to trust your intuition about what genuinely works for your specific constitution.
Perhaps most liberating is the recognition that we're constantly evolving beings. Scientific evidence confirms our physical bodies regenerate completely over time, meaning the techniques that worked previously might no longer resonate because you're literally not the same person anymore. This invites a playful, experimental approach to energy management - trying different tools without judgment or rigid expectations.
Ready to discover what truly works for YOU? Get curious about yourself - explore your mind, body, and soul with fresh eyes. Share your experiences in the comments or reach out through our website or social media. We'd love to hear what techniques have transformed your energy and helped you return to spiritual alignment!
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
Thank you, hey, dr.
Jenny, good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Guess what, what?
We're back in studio.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
My favorite place to be.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Welcome back to the spiritual ground everybody.
I hope you've been enjoying thepodcast and understanding, or
helping get a betterunderstanding of a spiritual
life and the daily things thatwe all go through, and maybe
some little tip here and therewill help out.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
For sure, for sure, man, for sure, for sure,
proposure man.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Proposure.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
So I got asked this question yesterday and I've been
thinking about it.
I got asked yesterday what dowe use to assist in changing our
energy?
When we have a little bit of ahuman day going on, what do we
do?
How do we change our energy forthe day?
Did you drop something?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Well, kind of I was picking up this big, beautiful
ball to hold.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Oh, that's a good example.
Actually, you have to ask aquestion I got asked yesterday.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah, I mean I, we use different, a lot of
different modalities andtechniques and tools.
Yeah, it just depends, and Idon't think that they're static
and consistent it changes.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I agree, you know, I think there's multiple things
that I know I do that can helpkeep me out of a human moment
and more of a spiritually guidedone, like, for example, a lot
of times I'll just sit and dwelland figure out why is this in
my reality, and that kind ofmakes you feel better and
(02:16):
sometimes, like I used to havethis habit, I would go work in
the shop.
I would just take myself out ofthe situation and go do
something different.
I personally find a whole lotof pleasure out of getting deep
into the moment of just creatingsomething, right To where it
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kind of takes your human mindaway.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah, I mean it doesn't really matter what it is
.
Yeah, I mean it doesn't reallymatter what it is.
The whole point of it is justaligning with that frequency,
that higher vibrationalfrequency that we, I guess, in
human terms, say.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
What did you say?
Higher vibrational what?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Frequency.
Frequency Higher vibr,vibration frequency.
That's the point of it.
And so when we say, you knowfinding your highest joy in
every moment, big or small, itdoesn't matter what it is,
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whatever works for you.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
What brought the question up is I've been
teaching the Power ThoughtSchool.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
And I have quite a few people that have really
attended there all the 16 weeksso far.
I got one week left, but shecame to me.
She's, like you, always seem tobe in a good mood.
I'm like, well, that's notreally true, that's just your
perception.
But I do stay pretty positiveand pretty higher vibrational
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energy A lot of the time.
There are times that thingsaffect me and she said, well,
what do you do to get over it?
And I told her I'm like youknow, I try to find out why is
it bugging me, and then I'll tryto change the energy behind it
or the definition of it, youknow of why is it bugging me and
why is it in my reality.
And and realize that you know,like you, like you have taught
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me many, many times, this lifeis not happening to me, it's
happening for me.
I was going to figure out whatis it that I have to?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
see, right, I mean, what is it that I have to see?
Right, I mean, life has nomeaning until we define it and
give it meaning.
Yes, that's the truth about it.
Yes, and I teach that oftenit's you and your beliefs and
your patterns and your programsthat create a perspective that
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then creates a meaning of asituation, circumstance, event
or person.
Yeah, and if you're notenjoying where you're at, what
you're doing, who you'reinteracting with, what beliefs
do you have in place that arecreating the perspective about
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where you're at and what you'redoing or preventing you from
changing your reality?
And we just had thisconversation.
I was sitting in contemplationbefore a podcast to get some
clear understanding for myself,because I find myself today not
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really wanting to go to work andbeing a little agitated about
that and being kind of boredwith reality that I've created,
okay, and so I was contemplatingwhat purpose is it serving?
What am I not seeing?
How am I viewing it?
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What perspective am I comingfrom?
And or what beliefs do I havein place that may be preventing
me from moving into and aligningwith a reality that I more
prefer?
Those are the questions that Iask myself, and so I think the
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key is.
One of the keys is becomingaware that you're feeling
something that you don'tnecessarily prefer.
Deciding that you want'tnecessarily prefer yeah,
deciding that you want to feelsomething different, and then
digging around in it and findingout what perspective am I
(06:35):
viewing it from, which consistsof looking at your beliefs.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Looking at your definitions and seeing.
Looking at your definitions andseeing.
Is it because I have adefinition that is causing me to
see it in one way versusanother?
Is it that it is a contractualkind of agreement with my higher
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self that I'm going toexperience this fully until I
get some concept or I getwhatever was intended for me to
get out of it and I might allowmyself to see that?
You know, just really exploringwhat the purpose is.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
You know, that's kind of the way I do it too, but you
know, I kind of look at it as aTwinkie pack.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Oh God, Okay, do tell .
Speaker 2 (07:27):
You open the package and you grab the right Twinkie
or the left Twinkie first.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
And you have, like you said, you make yourself
aware.
Okay, so I have these twoTwinkies in front of me.
One of them is going to make mevery happy, one of them is just
going to be okay.
And now I'm going to figure outwhich Twinkie it is.
Is it the right Twinkie or theleft Twinkie?
Because you know they're madein two different factories and
it's shipped and put together.
No, they're not Uh-huh, theright Twinkie is always made
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different.
No Uh-huh, don't believe me,just ask me and I'll tell you.
But identifying what is it inthe Twinkies, I need one of
those Twinkies that can changemy day into a better feeling
place, and this is what I toldher.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
No wonder your pockets look so full all the
time you carry around.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Twinkies yeah, every now and then I get a triple pack
of Twinkies.
What?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
You get the bonus.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Twinkie in the pack.
You know you buy two, get onefree.
Twinkie in the pack.
You know you buy two, get onefree.
But that's what I described toher was is you.
You have to take it from adifferent perspective and
understand that, like you said,be aware of what it is,
understand that this life ishappening for us, not to us, and
then stop and say which twinkieam I going to grab today?
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Do I want to grab the leftTwinkie, where I'm going to stay
dwelling in it and continue tofeel like my vibrational level
is not in a good place, or am Igoing to grab the right Twinkie
and change my perspective?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Or am I going to grab no Twinkies?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Well.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Twinkies are open in front of you.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
That's not an option.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Oh, it most definitely is an option.
I don't like Twinkies.
I would grab neither Twinkie.
They're gross, I just thinkit's funny.
And they feel funny in yourmouth.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
They used to be a lot better.
They used to have a lot morecream in them.
They were bigger and then theygot chinsy and made them smaller
.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I don't know, it's just weird.
Like the top coat of a Twinkieis like soft and weird.
And then this weird chewysponginess with this.
That cream is hideous, Likeit's just gross.
Twinkies are gross and theycome up with the idea of frying
them.
That makes it even worse.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
A fried Twinkies are gross and they come up with the
idea of frying them.
That makes it even worse.
A fried Twinkie, Deep-friedTwinkies, yeah they used to do
that to.
Texas State Fair a lot.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
It's like a big sponge for just grease.
Just turn the grease up anddrink it.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
So what I mean by looking at a pack of Twinkies is
now you have a choice.
You decided to open the Twinkiepackage.
That is being aware.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I like Twix better.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Twix Do you like to ride Twix or not?
Twix.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Depends on the day.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
It's a choice.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
It is always a choice .
Speaker 2 (10:20):
You know, those are made in different factories too.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
So I hear.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
That's what they said on the commercial and I believe
them.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
So you know, when we open the Twinkie Pack, that is
kind of a sign of for mebecoming aware of, hey,
something ain't right in thisthought or in this day or in
this energy.
And so I open the Twinkies andI have a choice Do I want to
dive into the history of it andkind of figure out what it is
(10:50):
and maybe keep yourself in thatvibrational spot, which
sometimes we need to do that, ordo I grab the right Twinkie and
I just change the way it makesme feel for this moment, until I
can go eat the left TwinkieCrickets.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Okay, that's your process.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, I was just kind of given an analogy of one way
of looking at it.
Yeah, and so what is it thatthe conversation went to?
Once you identify it, what doyou do with it?
Where do you go?
How do you change to makeyourself feel better?
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I mean, it just depends on the person.
It depends really on what yourtool bag has in it.
That is your process.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I can give you what I do, which kind of already did,
but it's very individualizedprocess.
If in fact you need a process,yeah.
Every.
So I mean, do you really?
I guess what a rabbit hole is.
The fact that you think youneed a process is, in fact, a
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belief in and of itself.
You love that statement In andof itself baby yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Ladies and gentlemen, you may pick up your copy of In
and of Itself at any locallibrary, newsstand or Barnes and
Noble, I think.
It's Books A Million now.
Books A Million?
No, they're still both.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
They have two different stories.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, that's two different stories, oh wow.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I thought that one bought the other one out and I
thought Barnes Noble was nolonger.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Oh no, I don't think so.
Oh, I didn't realize it was twodifferent stories, maybe, I
mean, maybe, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Maybe I don't know, but maybe I don't know, maybe,
maybe we just don't know, maybewe just don't know Maybe we're
in the I don't know dimension.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
But you're right, the heaven, heaven process is, is,
is is a belief in itself.
Right, because there aresituations.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
For me, for example, on certain topics, I don't have
to have a process, I just decideI want it to be different.
Poof, it's different, it is.
It just happens in the blink ofan eye.
Because I've put no definitionon that it's got to take a long
time, or that I've got to try todo something, or that I've got
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to have some 10, 12 stepsequence of events to make it
okay for it to be somethingdifferent.
So having the process in and ofitself is a perspective, a
viewpoint, a belief, but firstyou got to identify what the
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thing is.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
What is the thing?
Speaker 1 (13:52):
And if it's just, changing your outlook so that
you are in a better mood, thenthe formula is very easy you are
finding things along your paththat make you feel better.
Really, it's just really blackand white, and whatever those
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things are.
If it's sitting here holding abig, beautiful sphere of quartz,
then do that for however longit feels good.
If it's drinking a nice cup ofcoffee with lots of chocolate in
it, do that.
If it's sitting reading, or ifit's going on a walk or going
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back to bed, for God's sakes, dothose things.
Meditation there's many, many,many and and modalities out
there.
You just have to figure outwhat is aligned with your
frequency and what feels good toyou yeah nobody, no one person
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can tell you, not even me, who'sthe doctor.
Oh, I can't tell you what worksfor you.
I can't say okay, go home anddo this and that and spit,
spultch, you'll be fixed.
And I think sometimes societygives doctors too much clout and
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goes to them as though there'ssome Wizard of Oz guru that is
all-knowing and then follows toa T something the doctor said.
No matter what kind of doctorit is whether it's modern
medicine, chiropractic,metaphysician such as myself you
go to the doctor thinkingthey're going to know exactly
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what your blueprint of frequencyneeds.
You follow it to a T only tofind out that it doesn't work.
Or it doesn't work like youthought it would, or it's just
not quite there.
I mean that's because nobodyknows you better than you.
How long have you been with you?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
All my life Right yeah you on my life, right?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
yeah, that doctor may have only been with you.
You know part of your life, 30minutes one time a year, and so
I mean you gotta figure it outyou gotta try.
the thing is don't be afraid totry different things right?
You're not to know if the shoefits if you don't go to the
store and try them on, andyou're not going to know which
shoe you like based on how itfeels, what it looks like, if
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you don't go try it on and lookat it on your foot.
Same thing with the techniquesof how to deal with the
emotional guidance system andhow to get yourself from where
you are to where you want to go.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Right.
You see, one of the things thatI teach in the power of thought
school and why she's bringingthis question up is I taught
them that positive mindset is achoice and being a positive
within everything is a choice todo.
And she was like how do youjust choose to be positive?
Well, it's not so much that youchoose to be positive, it's
just that you choose to becomeaware of what it is to make a
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different way.
It's like more of a choice toaccept it the way it is and then
go into your own process bywhich to do it.
You, you know and you alsobrought up another good topic in
that same thing because I Iteach this constantly, because
everybody's been taught alltheir life that going to the
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doctor has all they have all theanswers right and you know
they're.
They are the law, you know they, what they say is the truth,
and nobody ever stops to thinkfor one minute that this doctor
has been taught out of booksthat somebody wrote.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Right.
And it's not the doctor that'streating you.
That wrote the book.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Right and things change and evolute and health
care is an option.
It is a choice to understandand follow what your doctor says
, or follow what your body says,or whatever that is.
But you said it once one dayand it kind of blew my mind.
That's something I neverthought of was a textbook, a
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medical textbook is just average.
A textbook, a medical textbook,is just average.
It's just about the averages ofthings and the chances of
things that have happened inhistorical studies that they put
into this textbook.
It does not mean that itabsolutely is this way.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Right.
It's not the blueprint forevery single human.
It can't be Right, becauseevery single human has a
different blueprint, just asunique as the thumbprint right
right and it, and it doesn'tmatter whether you're talking
about spiritual practice, rightum physical reactions to the
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different things that are inyour bubble, you know right, you
might wash with this soap, I'mfine.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
If you wash with the same soap, you get a rash right
I mean, it's all soindividualized it is totally and
that's, I think, where modernmedicine misses it just a hair
you know because you're, you're100 right, and here's a good
example that I see all the time.
That's why I said it likeeverybody says what is the
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perfect blood pressure?
Speaker 1 (19:24):
like 110 over 70 yep, we just had this go on
yesterday talking about oh mygod, her heart rate was 160, oh
my god.
Reading the machine and notcoordinating with the body the
symptoms is so just not the wayto go about it.
That machine could bemalfunctioning.
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The person's normal heart ratecould be 120.
Yeah, that could be their norm,right?
And so if you're talking abouta normal heart rate of 120,
because that's how their bodylikes to be, then 160 is not a
huge extravagant jump right.
Right, I, I can.
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I can speak for myself thatbefore I had my pacemaker, I was
one of those people mymetabolism was just extremely
fast.
I can eat even now anything Iwant to eat.
Never gain any weight yeah andmy heart rate.
My body likes my heart rate tobe faster, even with the
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pacemaker yeah, no right,because he turned it up like one
something right.
We go to the doctor and I getchecked and I'm like you've got
it set too low.
I need more right because mybody likes to live in the 100s.
I feel best when my heart rateis between 100 and 105.
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That's just how fast myfrequency vibrates.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Remember, that's what your pacemaker is.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
When I'm set at like a robot, I feel like a robot.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Like those robots when they plug you in and check
all your mechanical.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
When I'm set at like 60 or 70, man, you have no
energy.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I've experienced that , I've seen that.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
I have no energy.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
I don't do well.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Once I hit about 80, then I start feeling life come
back into me and then I feelbest when I'm like, like I said,
104 to 111s, 110, 108, I feelrejuvenated and I feel good.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
You know, this exact conversation is why I say what I
said to this lady.
But in your example, you knowyou're talking about the
pacemaker.
A lot of people don'tunderstand that a pacemaker.
When you have a pacemaker, itcontrols the pace of your heart.
That's why it's called apacemaker.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Right.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
And it is designed to where it only raises your heart
rate when it feels the motionof exercise or walking or moving
.
When it feels the motion ofexercise or walking or moving,
and so if you're sitting stilland perhaps doing a bicycle on
your tail, it's not going toraise your heart rate, or when
you're like that time that youwere walking up the stairs.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Wait, what are you doing with your tail and why do
you have a tail?
Speaker 2 (22:21):
What are you talking about?
You said when you're doing abicycle on your tail, when
you're sitting on your tail end,do you have a tail?
What are you?
Talking about you said whenyou're doing a bicycle on your
tail when you're sitting on yourtail, in when you're sitting on
your butt and you're working abicycle.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
If it's not picking up that motion, it's not going
to raise your heart rate um, Imean it, it will, because the
the like this is going in aweird anyway, but it doesn't
matter, that doesn't reallymatter it will raise your heart
rate, but you got to understandthe component and how it works
in the body, and I mean it's notnecessary to really get into
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that.
This is not a pacemaker podcast.
Yeah, that's not what it'sabout.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
But going back to it is I brought up the example
about the averages and thechoice and stuff because when I
was in ncaa, when I would go formy physical you know, my heart,
I mean, my blood pressure was92 over 60.
That was my norm.
That I mean for 18 freakingyears right that was my norm.
And when, like the last coupleof years, they're like oh my god
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, you have, you have low bloodpressure, and I, I'm like Based
on statistical data.
The.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
American Heart Association.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Yeah, omg, you have low blood pressure.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
We've evaluated 10,001 patients and the average
mean of blood pressure is 120over 80.
That's the perfect number, andif you're anything under or over
that, oh my God.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Here, take this pill.
They sent me for a stress test,like the last three or four
years.
I was doing it and I had to goto stress test to make sure my
heart, my blood pressure andheart rate would go up and all
that other stuff.
And and the doctor's like Idon't understand what they're
doing because your record showedthat this is your baseline,
this is your baseline.
This is where what you are andyou've been doing this for so
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many years.
I haven't seen you fall on thefield yet, and so there he was,
like, anyway, he freed me of it.
But it brings to my reality thethought of yes, when you
identify those things in yourlife, um doesn't mean you, it's
a cookie cutter thing, right,because, like I told you
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yesterday, I can sit here andtell you what I do, but if it's
not your norm, it's not going towork for you.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
So I guess my question would be for the
benefit of our listeners how doyou know if it's your norm?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
That's a good question.
I just have a I don't know whatmy norm is actually.
I mean, you know what your norm?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
is.
But how do you know If somebodysays, you know, like if you say
I'm experiencing this and I'mtrying to figure out how I want
to navigate that Right, andsomebody says, well, I do this,
this and this.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
What do you do with?
That was the alien side of me.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Yeah, that was your TikTok.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
You take those three things that this person has
offered forth to you.
How do you know?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Right, and you really don't because I know.
I myself.
I don't really know what mynorm is on certain things,
because I have I'm trying totake you in a certain direction.
What I do know is there arecertain things that I don't like
the way they feel.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
That's exactly what I was digging for, and so when I
get to that point of something,I do not like to be angry
anymore.
Because of historical events,I've changed beliefs on things
and I don't like to get mad.
Why I'll experience the momentand I'll try to raise my
vibration off of anger.
Why I'll experience the momentand I'll try to raise my
vibration off of anger.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Why?
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Because I just don't.
It doesn't.
Anger is an emotion for me thatcan allow my human to kick in
too much, and so I will be inthe moment, and then I'm going
to figure out a way to removemyself from that on the ladder
by raising my vibration.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Because it doesn't feel good.
Because it doesn't feel good.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Because it doesn't feel good.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
right, that's what I was trying to get at.
It goes if all of this, all thetopics, fall back to using the
emotional guidance system andhow you feel.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
And the ladder.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
That is the.
That's the important piece.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
So if somebody says to you well, I tried this, this
and this.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
You take those three items and ask yourself okay,
when I think about doing this,how does it make me feel?
Eh, not much of anything.
Well, okay, let's take the B,the second choice.
How does that make me feel if Ithink about doing it?
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I hate that.
That feels awful.
Then you know it's not that one.
If you take the third one andyou check in with it the same
way and you're like I could seewhere that feels kind of maybe,
a maybe, then go and try it andsee if you get an actual yeah,
(27:24):
that feels good, I like it, orno, that don't fit either,
because if it's a maybe, thenit's just simply because you
can't really conceptualize whatit truly would feel like to do
it.
So then go do it or have it, orget it, or and try it and try
it on and see does it fit, Doesit not?
(27:45):
And if it does and it makes youfeel good, then do it until it
doesn't, Right.
If it doesn't, then take allthree options and file 13 of
them and move on and and give itno further meaning.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Right, you know that's uh, it's kind of a good
analogy for me to make a betterunderstanding of things, because
we're like like this is onething that just popped in my
head.
A scenario is when we goshopping at Christmas time and
we go to the mall, I have tohave a Starbucks because, you
know, I go to the Starbucksbecause I enjoy that, because it
(28:19):
brought back some happy timeswhen the kids were young and
going to the mall and shopping,and I used to give my son a
Starbucks and he would gorunning around the mall like a
crazy man during the mall, andso it gives me a place to go to
that it feels better.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
That's right, because I really don't enjoy shopping,
so that's feels better.
That's right, because I reallydon't enjoy shopping that much,
so that's a technique.
It's a technique on pullingthose memories of past events
forward to find the feel betterfrequency and vibration of that
memory, and that's one of thetechniques that you can use that
you can use.
(28:58):
If there's a memory or somethingfrom the past that you can pull
from to do, that brings backthe frequency of that moment in
time and it raises yourvibration because it gives you
feel-good feelings, then do that.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, totally, and that's kind of where I was going
with.
That is, I do that kind ofstuff and I never identified it
until you said something to me acouple of years ago.
I didn't identify it as why Idid it and that's what we do
naturally as humans is we willgo through these processes and
we'll actually jump into doingour processes and don't even
realize we do it, because it isa habit.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Right.
And when you naturally will gotowards the thing that feels
better.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
And I teach this in my energy class.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
You know there's different.
I teach a class here wherewe're at about the energy,
chinese medicine meridians, howto work with your energy, while
you teach a class on how to workwith the mind, to have a whole,
complete being and experience.
And so in the energy class Iteach that.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Um, I just lost my thought well, you know that's
okay, because I can tell youthat what I was telling her was
and it'll come back in just aminute was is you're probably
working the process and you'renot identifying it, because it's
a habit and our subconsciousmind has a tendency to go to the
path of least resistance and dowhat it knows.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Right, yeah, so in the energy class, one of the big
energy movers is taking yourflat palm of your hand and
putting it across your foreheadand that will help move a shit
ton of energy when it is kind ofstuck and representative by
maybe like a little staleheadache or some sinus stuff or
(30:47):
you know, just feelingoverwhelmed or whatever, putting
your hand there to move energyaround.
Right, and I'll I'll.
One of the things I'll bring totheir awareness when I'm doing
a class is how many times nowthat you know that is what that
is and that's what you're doing,how many times do you sit with
(31:07):
your hand on your forehead whenyou don't quite feel right?
Yeah, be it stress, be it ahead cold, be it just just kind
of energetically declined alittle bit, I mean, we all do it
naturally, yeah, even whenyou're talking about working
with energy.
So same premise You're going todo things that feel good
(31:29):
naturally.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
You just don't know you're doing them.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
And is it going to be based off historical?
What made you feel goodpreviously in the same situation
?
It can be, but it can also justbe, because it's ingrained in in
your overall blueprint I agree,you know, and that's where, uh,
we, we get into a habitualmoment when the brain goes into
that subconscious easy thoughtand goes from point a to point b
(31:54):
.
If you have done this energysession before and it made you
feel better, and they're, likeyou know, putting your hand on
your forehead, their brainswould automatically take you
there.
So you teach yourself a habit.
And that's what I told her wasis you have to teach yourself a
new habit that creates adifferent environment so you can
free up the energy to identifythe issues.
(32:15):
When you're struggling withidentifying what's making you
feel bad, right, and she saidbecause a lot of people don't
actually back up, because a lotof people don't realize that the
, the brain does that, just likewater or electric and um so
(32:37):
he's got something wrong withhis contact and so he's Popeye
in it right this minute with oneeye closed and he's got
something in his eye, so helooks like Popeye right this
minute and trying to focus.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
So let's talk about why we brought that into our
reality, literally andsymbolically.
Is there something he's notseeing?
Is there something that ischallenging to look at for
himself, that the body isbringing up for him as a
representation of something heneeds to look at and is not
(33:13):
looking at?
Maybe You've got to look at thesymbology of it that did not
feel good it didn't look like itfelt good, but it was funny, it
was so weird.
It was like suddenly somethingwas in my eye yeah, so I mean,
even that is communication fromthe body.
Why did you create thatsomething that you're ready to
look at, but not allowingyourself to look at Something
(33:37):
that you're not seeing?
Energy that's built up there.
Maybe you need to do a littlebit of energy work.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Camera one camera two .
Camera one, camera two.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Tell me which is better, one or two?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
One or two Probably.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
It's annoying to go to the eye doctor and have them
do that, especially when they dothat little trick, where they
are exactly the same.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
And you're like oh my .
Speaker 2 (34:06):
God, they look the same.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
They look the same.
Is that the wrong answer?
Oh my God, there's somethingwrong with me.
Is it supposed to lookdifferent?
Oh my God, my eyes are broken.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
It's supposed to look different and I'm gonna give
the wrong answer.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
And finally, I'll just break down Under the sweat
and I'll be like listen, I don'tknow if I'm broken or not, but
they look exactly the same Did Iget the answer right or wrong.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
This is not a test.
That's what he said.
I'll be like those look thesame, yeah, so I guess I flunked
this test.
Well, anyway.
So the, the communication kindof continues with ourselves as
we identify the habits and thewe start doing those things,
(34:49):
start doing the things that wehave done historically and
changing the way.
If we don't like the result ofwhat we've done historically,
then we have to look at theprocess by which we're doing it
and identify a new way.
You know, like you, puttingyour hand on your forehead,
you're teaching people to workenergy.
I'm teaching people to identifythought differently, and when
those two things come togetherand when you get good and
(35:11):
practiced at it, you can goright into auto mode.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Right, it takes no time.
No time at all Time doesn'texist actually Rabbit hole.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
We create the time through our definitions of what
we think, the amount of time itshould take to do option A or
option B, or whatever theEnglishman invented the clock
the time, I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
I wanted to say that.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Englishmen yeah, I don't know who are they.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
You know those people .
You know those people.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Versus the Spanishmen .
Speaker 2 (35:47):
I don't know who did.
I just know the Mayans had acalendar and they didn't have a
clock.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
So time was actually created by kind of the all.
That is Because without timeyou can't really experience
things linearly, and if we gointo a reality where we know
that everything is happeningsimultaneously, it takes away
from the authenticity ofexperiencing one thing at a time
(36:18):
, of the human experience On atimeline.
Yeah, okay, so it was actuallycreated by the all, that is for
the purpose of having a veryHuman experience.
Linear experience Linear.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Okay, that way you don't just randomly jump from
dimension to dimension.
Maybe you do.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Well, it's a different experience if you know
that you can do that, versus ifyou think you can't.
Right, you're going to perceiveit differently.
Very good and the outcome ofthe experience would be much
different.
I'll give you an example.
Okay, you practice all the timealigning with the reality that
(37:08):
you can change the red light ata snap of your fingers.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
And you created the concept that I'm better at it
than you are, and you continueto practice your magic.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
so to speak.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
And then the other day when you did it, you're
pretty excited that you're likeoh my God, I finally did it, I
finally did it, I finally did it.
That felt good.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
El Chango.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
It was fun and it was exciting, but if you went into
that knowing that you have thepower to do that at any given
time I've got the power, and itdoesn't have to take any time at
all.
When you did it, it would belike oh yeah, I know I can do
that, so what's the big deal?
You wouldn't have gotten thesame feeling or experience out
(37:52):
of it.
It would have been a differentexperience.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Yeah, it was a good time.
I did it twice actually in thatday.
It was pretty good.
You know, everybody does thatand I don't think they realize
they do it.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Do what?
Speaker 2 (38:08):
When they're sitting at a stoplight.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
They're sitting there trying to energetically change
it, because they're tired ofsitting at the stoplight already
.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yeah, unless you're doing something else and the
stopped is a convenience.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Yeah, like for me if I am trying to do something and
I need to not drive for a minute, so I can get it done, like
putting on mascara while you'redriving, oh.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
I knew I'd get somebody when I threw that out
there.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
You're going to get the weapons, Because the other
day I saw a lady doing thatwhile she was driving.
I was like wow Anyway.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Haven't done that in a minute, huh.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Stop it.
I haven't.
I haven't done that in a minuteEver since I got my eyeliner
tattooed on, and now I go and Ihave a lady put my little
eyelashes on.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
I don't do that anymore.
I remember when we firststarted dating I would watch you
drive off on your littleVolkswagen Bug doing your makeup
, driving down the road Doing myeyeliner.
I'm asking when you weredriving with your knee.
I'm talented.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
I'm a talented biatch .
Speaker 2 (39:06):
That comes from smoking weed back in the day.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
I wasn't a big weed smoker.
Actually, my body didn'tresonate with it.
Every time I try to smoke it Ipass out and go into this realm
of unaliveness.
So I wasn't a big.
I mean, that's happened to meEven from the first time I
smoked it in school.
(39:29):
I passed out, it stoppedbreathing, scared the shit out
of my teacher, and then I did ita couple of other times.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
That's how I learned to drive with my knee, so I
could hold the pipe and thelighter at the same time while I
was driving down the road.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
No, literally, I learned to drive with my knee
because I needed my hands toeither curl my hair you remember
when the curling irons werebutane Cordless.
That was such a new inventionNever.
Well, you don't curl your hair.
I didn't have that money.
No, my hair is naturally curly.
Yeah, if you don't curl yourhair, you wouldn't understand.
(40:01):
Yeah, but they.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
I definitely couldn't afford a cordless, freaking
hair curler.
Yeah, so when?
Speaker 1 (40:07):
they first came out, the cordless was not a thing.
What they did is they came outwith curling iron that ran on
this little uh, this little tankof like butane some kind of
burner in it.
Yeah, like somehow it ran offof like uh butane type product
(40:27):
and you put this littlecartridge in it and it would get
hot and it was cordless itdidn't have a cord.
You didn't know that yeah, theymay even still have them, I
don't know.
Nowadays they have therechargeable batteries and all
of that that are much safer.
Oh yeah, I can imagine Good tomention.
So those of us that don't reallylive in the construct of time
(40:50):
or we create our own time, tendto be tagged as late all the
time, tend to be tagged as lateall the time, and so, to fit
into everyone else's bubble oftime watchers and time police,
we find loopholes.
So my loophole was to put mymakeup on and do my hair in the
(41:12):
car on the way to work the caron the way to work, and so
having a cordless hair, iron andlearning to put my eyeliner and
my mascara on.
I digress in the car was quiteconvenient, so coming up to a
red light, I could get a lot ofshit done at the red light.
Make it stay red yeah, I wasokay with it being red and and
(41:36):
sticking there for a minutebecause I was like man, I can
get this whole eye done ifyou'll just hang on one more
second.
And then the next time I canget the whole other eye done,
and then I can curl my hair, andthen I get to work and
magically I'm all put together.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Yeah, it was pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Fun times.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
It was Good times back in the day um so what?
We still have good times everyday oh yeah, most definitely.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
So, just different kind of fun I think we we
covered that topic pretty good,but you know the I think the
thing that people need torealize is there is no set way
of doing it no you, you just gotto figure out what feels good
next yeah, and what's sosurprising to me is that there's
still, even though we keeprepeating that and we keep
teaching it, you know, be itthrough the podcast or through
(42:24):
seminars, there's still so manypeople out there that think that
there's, like this guru,instructed, set way of doing
things to get you to a feelbetter place, the magic cure
Right here.
Here's the magic pill.
Here Let me wave my magic wand,which I do have, you know, like
(42:46):
there's some sort of magicalrecipe that we're all doing, and
it's not.
I can't tell you how manytechniques and tools and things
I have tried along my 30-yearjourney and they change.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
You know, like for a few months it's this particular
stone.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
But then it changes, and then it's smelling this
particular herb.
So I'll burn it my patchouliyeah, you're a patchouli guy.
I do like patchouli.
Burn it, my patchouli.
Yeah, you're a patchouli guy.
He really resonates withpatchouli, so we run that often
in the.
I do like the patchouli In the.
What is the little machinecalled?
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Motor coach.
The diffuser, oh, the diffuser,yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
Yeah, so we run a lot of patchouli through our life.
It just doesn't.
I mean it just it varies.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
Are you glitzing?
Speaker 1 (43:40):
No, I was just trying to decide what.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
I wanted to say next.
So the key is try stuff.
I think all you got to do ismake yourself aware, and if
you're judging yourself throughit.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Oh my God, if I carry around a big ball of quartz,
people are going to think I'mweird.
So what Says the person that?
Speaker 2 (43:59):
carry around a big ball of quartz, people are going
to think I'm weird.
So what Says the person thatcarries around a big ball of
quartz?
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Who cares Like try it .
Speaker 2 (44:05):
If it makes you feel better, I don't care what
anybody else thinks.
If it makes me feel better, Idon't care what anybody thinks.
Of course I don't care whatanybody thinks anyway.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
If it makes you feel better to wear big clown red
shoes, then put them on.
That might be kind of fun.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Maybe I have to do that one day.
Can I put it on my nose?
Speaker 1 (44:22):
You can do whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Can I make it where I push the nose and it goes
whoo-da.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Why do your eyes look so sleepy?
Oh, because you had a stick inyour eye.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
Yeah, maybe you had a sharp stick in your eye.
I'd rather do that than get asharp stick in the eye, I don't
know.
But so, um, you have anythingelse?
Speaker 1 (44:45):
I have lots of stuff, but I don't know where we are
on time.
I could literally sit here andjust conversate all day.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
With myself or others .
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Whatever you want to talk about, I will go there with
you, and that's a great prelude, isn't?
It Hand in hand.
I will go there with you, ofcourse.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
This is a great life.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
It's a great way to live.
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Because we have a Facebook thing too.
We do.
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Speaker 2 (45:37):
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Speaker 1 (46:08):
Yeah, the thing to take away is that you are the
most interesting thing, soexplore yourself.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
And figure out.
Get curious about yourself.
Get curious about your mind,your body, your soul and see
what that communication is.
Develop a line of communicationwith you and yourself and start
to explore that.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Totally.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
And see what feels good.
What permission slip do youneed?
Speaker 2 (46:38):
I need the lottery one yourself and start to
explore that and see what feelsgood.
What permission slip do youneed?
I need the one I need thelottery one.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
There's different ones out there.
Yeah, I'm playing, and so juststart trying them on to see what
fits.
Yeah, I totally agree and thendon't get stuck in the okay,
this one is what works.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Yeah, don't go, definitely don't have
expectations.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
If it changes, then go with something new.
Going with intentions notexpectations, because I get this
a lot whenever I'm working withpeople.
I used to do this, but itdoesn't seem to be working
anymore.
Well, that's because you're awhole new person every second of
the day, so the person that itused to work for you've evolved
(47:20):
and you're not that personanymore, so go find what the
next thing is yeah, we change,that's for sure that's.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
The only thing you can depend on is that I have no
idea what's the mission we'regoing to be in including us.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Yeah, and that's been proven scientifically.
You're a whole new person everyso often.
I mean even your blood cells.
They change out.
120 days in You're getting awhole new lineup.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
Skin cells.
You slough off your skin cells.
You get a whole new lineup.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
Yep, totally agree.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
So you're a whole new person.
Yep, totally agree, so you're awhole new person.
Anyway, one second to anotherand stay real with it.
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Hey, thank you all forlistening today.
Um, you did.
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Oh, good to know.
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All right, y'all have an awesome day.
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Love.
Ya, we'll see you next time.
Thank you, hey, dr.
Jenny, good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Guess what, what?
We're back in studio.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
My favorite place to be.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Welcome back to the spiritual ground everybody.
I hope you've been enjoying thepodcast and understanding, or
helping get a betterunderstanding of a spiritual
life and the daily things thatwe all go through, and maybe
some little tip here and therewill help out.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
For sure, for sure, man, for sure, for sure,
proposure man.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Proposure.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
So I got asked this question yesterday and I've been
thinking about it.
I got asked yesterday what dowe use to assist in changing our
energy?
When we have a little bit of ahuman day going on, what do we
do?
How do we change our energy forthe day?
Did you drop something?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Well, kind of I was picking up this big, beautiful
ball to hold.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Oh, that's a good example.
Actually, you have to ask aquestion I got asked yesterday.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah, I mean I, we use different, a lot of
different modalities andtechniques and tools.
Yeah, it just depends, and Idon't think that they're static
and consistent it changes.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I agree, you know, I think there's multiple things
that I know I do that can helpkeep me out of a human moment
and more of a spiritually guidedone, like, for example, a lot
of times I'll just sit and dwelland figure out why is this in
my reality, and that kind ofmakes you feel better and
(02:16):
sometimes, like I used to havethis habit, I would go work in
the shop.
I would just take myself out ofthe situation and go do
something different.
I personally find a whole lotof pleasure out of getting deep
into the moment of just creatingsomething, right To where it
(02:38):
kind of takes your human mindaway.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah, I mean it doesn't really matter what it is
.
Yeah, I mean it doesn't reallymatter what it is.
The whole point of it is justaligning with that frequency,
that higher vibrationalfrequency that we, I guess, in
human terms, say.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
What did you say?
Higher vibrational what?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Frequency.
Frequency Higher vibr,vibration frequency.
That's the point of it.
And so when we say, you knowfinding your highest joy in
every moment, big or small, itdoesn't matter what it is,
(03:21):
whatever works for you.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
What brought the question up is I've been
teaching the Power ThoughtSchool.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
And I have quite a few people that have really
attended there all the 16 weeksso far.
I got one week left, but shecame to me.
She's, like you, always seem tobe in a good mood.
I'm like, well, that's notreally true, that's just your
perception.
But I do stay pretty positiveand pretty higher vibrational
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energy A lot of the time.
There are times that thingsaffect me and she said, well,
what do you do to get over it?
And I told her I'm like youknow, I try to find out why is
it bugging me, and then I'll tryto change the energy behind it
or the definition of it, youknow of why is it bugging me and
why is it in my reality.
And and realize that you know,like you, like you have taught
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me many, many times, this lifeis not happening to me, it's
happening for me.
I was going to figure out whatis it that I have to?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
see, right, I mean, what is it that I have to see?
Right, I mean, life has nomeaning until we define it and
give it meaning.
Yes, that's the truth about it.
Yes, and I teach that oftenit's you and your beliefs and
your patterns and your programsthat create a perspective that
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then creates a meaning of asituation, circumstance, event
or person.
Yeah, and if you're notenjoying where you're at, what
you're doing, who you'reinteracting with, what beliefs
do you have in place that arecreating the perspective about
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where you're at and what you'redoing or preventing you from
changing your reality?
And we just had thisconversation.
I was sitting in contemplationbefore a podcast to get some
clear understanding for myself,because I find myself today not
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really wanting to go to work andbeing a little agitated about
that and being kind of boredwith reality that I've created,
okay, and so I was contemplatingwhat purpose is it serving?
What am I not seeing?
How am I viewing it?
(05:49):
What perspective am I comingfrom?
And or what beliefs do I havein place that may be preventing
me from moving into and aligningwith a reality that I more
prefer?
Those are the questions that Iask myself, and so I think the
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key is.
One of the keys is becomingaware that you're feeling
something that you don'tnecessarily prefer.
Deciding that you want'tnecessarily prefer yeah,
deciding that you want to feelsomething different, and then
digging around in it and findingout what perspective am I
(06:35):
viewing it from, which consistsof looking at your beliefs.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Looking at your definitions and seeing.
Looking at your definitions andseeing.
Is it because I have adefinition that is causing me to
see it in one way versusanother?
Is it that it is a contractualkind of agreement with my higher
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self that I'm going toexperience this fully until I
get some concept or I getwhatever was intended for me to
get out of it and I might allowmyself to see that?
You know, just really exploringwhat the purpose is.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
You know, that's kind of the way I do it too, but you
know, I kind of look at it as aTwinkie pack.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Oh God, Okay, do tell .
Speaker 2 (07:27):
You open the package and you grab the right Twinkie
or the left Twinkie first.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
And you have, like you said, you make yourself
aware.
Okay, so I have these twoTwinkies in front of me.
One of them is going to make mevery happy, one of them is just
going to be okay.
And now I'm going to figure outwhich Twinkie it is.
Is it the right Twinkie or theleft Twinkie?
Because you know they're madein two different factories and
it's shipped and put together.
No, they're not Uh-huh, theright Twinkie is always made
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different.
No Uh-huh, don't believe me,just ask me and I'll tell you.
But identifying what is it inthe Twinkies, I need one of
those Twinkies that can changemy day into a better feeling
place, and this is what I toldher.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
No wonder your pockets look so full all the
time you carry around.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Twinkies yeah, every now and then I get a triple pack
of Twinkies.
What?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
You get the bonus.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Twinkie in the pack.
You know you buy two, get onefree.
Twinkie in the pack.
You know you buy two, get onefree.
But that's what I described toher was is you.
You have to take it from adifferent perspective and
understand that, like you said,be aware of what it is,
understand that this life ishappening for us, not to us, and
then stop and say which twinkieam I going to grab today?
(08:41):
Do I want to grab the leftTwinkie, where I'm going to stay
dwelling in it and continue tofeel like my vibrational level
is not in a good place, or am Igoing to grab the right Twinkie
and change my perspective?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Or am I going to grab no Twinkies?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Well.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Twinkies are open in front of you.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
That's not an option.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Oh, it most definitely is an option.
I don't like Twinkies.
I would grab neither Twinkie.
They're gross, I just thinkit's funny.
And they feel funny in yourmouth.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
They used to be a lot better.
They used to have a lot morecream in them.
They were bigger and then theygot chinsy and made them smaller
.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I don't know, it's just weird.
Like the top coat of a Twinkieis like soft and weird.
And then this weird chewysponginess with this.
That cream is hideous, Likeit's just gross.
Twinkies are gross and theycome up with the idea of frying
them.
That makes it even worse.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
A fried Twinkies are gross and they come up with the
idea of frying them.
That makes it even worse.
A fried Twinkie, Deep-friedTwinkies, yeah they used to do
that to.
Texas State Fair a lot.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
It's like a big sponge for just grease.
Just turn the grease up anddrink it.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
So what I mean by looking at a pack of Twinkies is
now you have a choice.
You decided to open the Twinkiepackage.
That is being aware.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I like Twix better.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Twix Do you like to ride Twix or not?
Twix.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Depends on the day.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
It's a choice.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
It is always a choice .
Speaker 2 (10:20):
You know, those are made in different factories too.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
So I hear.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
That's what they said on the commercial and I believe
them.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
So you know, when we open the Twinkie Pack, that is
kind of a sign of for mebecoming aware of, hey,
something ain't right in thisthought or in this day or in
this energy.
And so I open the Twinkies andI have a choice Do I want to
dive into the history of it andkind of figure out what it is
(10:50):
and maybe keep yourself in thatvibrational spot, which
sometimes we need to do that, ordo I grab the right Twinkie and
I just change the way it makesme feel for this moment, until I
can go eat the left TwinkieCrickets.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Okay, that's your process.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, I was just kind of given an analogy of one way
of looking at it.
Yeah, and so what is it thatthe conversation went to?
Once you identify it, what doyou do with it?
Where do you go?
How do you change to makeyourself feel better?
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I mean, it just depends on the person.
It depends really on what yourtool bag has in it.
That is your process.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I can give you what I do, which kind of already did,
but it's very individualizedprocess.
If in fact you need a process,yeah.
Every.
So I mean, do you really?
I guess what a rabbit hole is.
The fact that you think youneed a process is, in fact, a
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belief in and of itself.
You love that statement In andof itself baby yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Ladies and gentlemen, you may pick up your copy of In
and of Itself at any locallibrary, newsstand or Barnes and
Noble, I think.
It's Books A Million now.
Books A Million?
No, they're still both.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
They have two different stories.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, that's two different stories, oh wow.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I thought that one bought the other one out and I
thought Barnes Noble was nolonger.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Oh no, I don't think so.
Oh, I didn't realize it was twodifferent stories, maybe, I
mean, maybe, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Maybe I don't know, but maybe I don't know, maybe,
maybe we just don't know, maybewe just don't know Maybe we're
in the I don't know dimension.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
But you're right, the heaven, heaven process is, is,
is is a belief in itself.
Right, because there aresituations.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
For me, for example, on certain topics, I don't have
to have a process, I just decideI want it to be different.
Poof, it's different, it is.
It just happens in the blink ofan eye.
Because I've put no definitionon that it's got to take a long
time, or that I've got to try todo something, or that I've got
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to have some 10, 12 stepsequence of events to make it
okay for it to be somethingdifferent.
So having the process in and ofitself is a perspective, a
viewpoint, a belief, but firstyou got to identify what the
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thing is.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
What is the thing?
Speaker 1 (13:52):
And if it's just, changing your outlook so that
you are in a better mood, thenthe formula is very easy you are
finding things along your paththat make you feel better.
Really, it's just really blackand white, and whatever those
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things are.
If it's sitting here holding abig, beautiful sphere of quartz,
then do that for however longit feels good.
If it's drinking a nice cup ofcoffee with lots of chocolate in
it, do that.
If it's sitting reading, or ifit's going on a walk or going
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back to bed, for God's sakes, dothose things.
Meditation there's many, many,many and and modalities out
there.
You just have to figure outwhat is aligned with your
frequency and what feels good toyou yeah nobody, no one person
(14:54):
can tell you, not even me, who'sthe doctor.
Oh, I can't tell you what worksfor you.
I can't say okay, go home anddo this and that and spit,
spultch, you'll be fixed.
And I think sometimes societygives doctors too much clout and
(15:17):
goes to them as though there'ssome Wizard of Oz guru that is
all-knowing and then follows toa T something the doctor said.
No matter what kind of doctorit is whether it's modern
medicine, chiropractic,metaphysician such as myself you
go to the doctor thinkingthey're going to know exactly
(15:38):
what your blueprint of frequencyneeds.
You follow it to a T only tofind out that it doesn't work.
Or it doesn't work like youthought it would, or it's just
not quite there.
I mean that's because nobodyknows you better than you.
How long have you been with you?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
All my life Right yeah you on my life, right?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
yeah, that doctor may have only been with you.
You know part of your life, 30minutes one time a year, and so
I mean you gotta figure it outyou gotta try.
the thing is don't be afraid totry different things right?
You're not to know if the shoefits if you don't go to the
store and try them on, andyou're not going to know which
shoe you like based on how itfeels, what it looks like, if
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you don't go try it on and lookat it on your foot.
Same thing with the techniquesof how to deal with the
emotional guidance system andhow to get yourself from where
you are to where you want to go.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Right.
You see, one of the things thatI teach in the power of thought
school and why she's bringingthis question up is I taught
them that positive mindset is achoice and being a positive
within everything is a choice todo.
And she was like how do youjust choose to be positive?
Well, it's not so much that youchoose to be positive, it's
just that you choose to becomeaware of what it is to make a
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different way.
It's like more of a choice toaccept it the way it is and then
go into your own process bywhich to do it.
You, you know and you alsobrought up another good topic in
that same thing because I Iteach this constantly, because
everybody's been taught alltheir life that going to the
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doctor has all they have all theanswers right and you know
they're.
They are the law, you know they, what they say is the truth,
and nobody ever stops to thinkfor one minute that this doctor
has been taught out of booksthat somebody wrote.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Right.
And it's not the doctor that'streating you.
That wrote the book.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Right and things change and evolute and health
care is an option.
It is a choice to understandand follow what your doctor says
, or follow what your body says,or whatever that is.
But you said it once one dayand it kind of blew my mind.
That's something I neverthought of was a textbook, a
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medical textbook is just average.
A textbook, a medical textbook,is just average.
It's just about the averages ofthings and the chances of
things that have happened inhistorical studies that they put
into this textbook.
It does not mean that itabsolutely is this way.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Right.
It's not the blueprint forevery single human.
It can't be Right, becauseevery single human has a
different blueprint, just asunique as the thumbprint right
right and it, and it doesn'tmatter whether you're talking
about spiritual practice, rightum physical reactions to the
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different things that are inyour bubble, you know right, you
might wash with this soap, I'mfine.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
If you wash with the same soap, you get a rash right
I mean, it's all soindividualized it is totally and
that's, I think, where modernmedicine misses it just a hair
you know because you're, you're100 right, and here's a good
example that I see all the time.
That's why I said it likeeverybody says what is the
(19:23):
perfect blood pressure?
Speaker 1 (19:24):
like 110 over 70 yep, we just had this go on
yesterday talking about oh mygod, her heart rate was 160, oh
my god.
Reading the machine and notcoordinating with the body the
symptoms is so just not the wayto go about it.
That machine could bemalfunctioning.
(19:46):
The person's normal heart ratecould be 120.
Yeah, that could be their norm,right?
And so if you're talking abouta normal heart rate of 120,
because that's how their bodylikes to be, then 160 is not a
huge extravagant jump right.
Right, I, I can.
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I can speak for myself thatbefore I had my pacemaker, I was
one of those people mymetabolism was just extremely
fast.
I can eat even now anything Iwant to eat.
Never gain any weight yeah andmy heart rate.
My body likes my heart rate tobe faster, even with the
(20:29):
pacemaker yeah, no right,because he turned it up like one
something right.
We go to the doctor and I getchecked and I'm like you've got
it set too low.
I need more right because mybody likes to live in the 100s.
I feel best when my heart rateis between 100 and 105.
(20:51):
That's just how fast myfrequency vibrates.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Remember, that's what your pacemaker is.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
When I'm set at like a robot, I feel like a robot.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Like those robots when they plug you in and check
all your mechanical.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
When I'm set at like 60 or 70, man, you have no
energy.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I've experienced that , I've seen that.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
I have no energy.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
I don't do well.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Once I hit about 80, then I start feeling life come
back into me and then I feelbest when I'm like, like I said,
104 to 111s, 110, 108, I feelrejuvenated and I feel good.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
You know, this exact conversation is why I say what I
said to this lady.
But in your example, you knowyou're talking about the
pacemaker.
A lot of people don'tunderstand that a pacemaker.
When you have a pacemaker, itcontrols the pace of your heart.
That's why it's called apacemaker.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Right.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
And it is designed to where it only raises your heart
rate when it feels the motionof exercise or walking or moving
.
When it feels the motion ofexercise or walking or moving,
and so if you're sitting stilland perhaps doing a bicycle on
your tail, it's not going toraise your heart rate, or when
you're like that time that youwere walking up the stairs.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Wait, what are you doing with your tail and why do
you have a tail?
Speaker 2 (22:21):
What are you talking about?
You said when you're doing abicycle on your tail, when
you're sitting on your tail end,do you have a tail?
What are you?
Talking about you said whenyou're doing a bicycle on your
tail when you're sitting on yourtail, in when you're sitting on
your butt and you're working abicycle.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
If it's not picking up that motion, it's not going
to raise your heart rate um, Imean it, it will, because the
the like this is going in aweird anyway, but it doesn't
matter, that doesn't reallymatter it will raise your heart
rate, but you got to understandthe component and how it works
in the body, and I mean it's notnecessary to really get into
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that.
This is not a pacemaker podcast.
Yeah, that's not what it'sabout.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
But going back to it is I brought up the example
about the averages and thechoice and stuff because when I
was in ncaa, when I would go formy physical you know, my heart,
I mean, my blood pressure was92 over 60.
That was my norm.
That I mean for 18 freakingyears right that was my norm.
And when, like the last coupleof years, they're like oh my god
(23:18):
, you have, you have low bloodpressure, and I, I'm like Based
on statistical data.
The.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
American Heart Association.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Yeah, omg, you have low blood pressure.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
We've evaluated 10,001 patients and the average
mean of blood pressure is 120over 80.
That's the perfect number, andif you're anything under or over
that, oh my God.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Here, take this pill.
They sent me for a stress test,like the last three or four
years.
I was doing it and I had to goto stress test to make sure my
heart, my blood pressure andheart rate would go up and all
that other stuff.
And and the doctor's like Idon't understand what they're
doing because your record showedthat this is your baseline,
this is your baseline.
This is where what you are andyou've been doing this for so
(24:04):
many years.
I haven't seen you fall on thefield yet, and so there he was,
like, anyway, he freed me of it.
But it brings to my reality thethought of yes, when you
identify those things in yourlife, um doesn't mean you, it's
a cookie cutter thing, right,because, like I told you
(24:25):
yesterday, I can sit here andtell you what I do, but if it's
not your norm, it's not going towork for you.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
So I guess my question would be for the
benefit of our listeners how doyou know if it's your norm?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
That's a good question.
I just have a I don't know whatmy norm is actually.
I mean, you know what your norm?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
is.
But how do you know If somebodysays, you know, like if you say
I'm experiencing this and I'mtrying to figure out how I want
to navigate that Right, andsomebody says, well, I do this,
this and this.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
What do you do with?
That was the alien side of me.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Yeah, that was your TikTok.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
You take those three things that this person has
offered forth to you.
How do you know?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Right, and you really don't because I know.
I myself.
I don't really know what mynorm is on certain things,
because I have I'm trying totake you in a certain direction.
What I do know is there arecertain things that I don't like
the way they feel.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
That's exactly what I was digging for, and so when I
get to that point of something,I do not like to be angry
anymore.
Because of historical events,I've changed beliefs on things
and I don't like to get mad.
Why I'll experience the momentand I'll try to raise my
vibration off of anger.
Why I'll experience the momentand I'll try to raise my
vibration off of anger.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Why?
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Because I just don't.
It doesn't.
Anger is an emotion for me thatcan allow my human to kick in
too much, and so I will be inthe moment, and then I'm going
to figure out a way to removemyself from that on the ladder
by raising my vibration.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Because it doesn't feel good.
Because it doesn't feel good.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Because it doesn't feel good.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
right, that's what I was trying to get at.
It goes if all of this, all thetopics, fall back to using the
emotional guidance system andhow you feel.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
And the ladder.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
That is the.
That's the important piece.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
So if somebody says to you well, I tried this, this
and this.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
You take those three items and ask yourself okay,
when I think about doing this,how does it make me feel?
Eh, not much of anything.
Well, okay, let's take the B,the second choice.
How does that make me feel if Ithink about doing it?
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I hate that.
That feels awful.
Then you know it's not that one.
If you take the third one andyou check in with it the same
way and you're like I could seewhere that feels kind of maybe,
a maybe, then go and try it andsee if you get an actual yeah,
(27:24):
that feels good, I like it, orno, that don't fit either,
because if it's a maybe, thenit's just simply because you
can't really conceptualize whatit truly would feel like to do
it.
So then go do it or have it, orget it, or and try it and try
it on and see does it fit, Doesit not?
(27:45):
And if it does and it makes youfeel good, then do it until it
doesn't, Right.
If it doesn't, then take allthree options and file 13 of
them and move on and and give itno further meaning.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Right, you know that's uh, it's kind of a good
analogy for me to make a betterunderstanding of things, because
we're like like this is onething that just popped in my
head.
A scenario is when we goshopping at Christmas time and
we go to the mall, I have tohave a Starbucks because, you
know, I go to the Starbucksbecause I enjoy that, because it
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brought back some happy timeswhen the kids were young and
going to the mall and shopping,and I used to give my son a
Starbucks and he would gorunning around the mall like a
crazy man during the mall, andso it gives me a place to go to
that it feels better.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
That's right, because I really don't enjoy shopping,
so that's feels better.
That's right, because I reallydon't enjoy shopping that much,
so that's a technique.
It's a technique on pullingthose memories of past events
forward to find the feel betterfrequency and vibration of that
memory, and that's one of thetechniques that you can use that
you can use.
(28:58):
If there's a memory or somethingfrom the past that you can pull
from to do, that brings backthe frequency of that moment in
time and it raises yourvibration because it gives you
feel-good feelings, then do that.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, totally, and that's kind of where I was going
with.
That is, I do that kind ofstuff and I never identified it
until you said something to me acouple of years ago.
I didn't identify it as why Idid it and that's what we do
naturally as humans is we willgo through these processes and
we'll actually jump into doingour processes and don't even
realize we do it, because it isa habit.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Right.
And when you naturally will gotowards the thing that feels
better.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
And I teach this in my energy class.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
You know there's different.
I teach a class here wherewe're at about the energy,
chinese medicine meridians, howto work with your energy, while
you teach a class on how to workwith the mind, to have a whole,
complete being and experience.
And so in the energy class Iteach that.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Um, I just lost my thought well, you know that's
okay, because I can tell youthat what I was telling her was
and it'll come back in just aminute was is you're probably
working the process and you'renot identifying it, because it's
a habit and our subconsciousmind has a tendency to go to the
path of least resistance and dowhat it knows.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Right, yeah, so in the energy class, one of the big
energy movers is taking yourflat palm of your hand and
putting it across your foreheadand that will help move a shit
ton of energy when it is kind ofstuck and representative by
maybe like a little staleheadache or some sinus stuff or
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you know, just feelingoverwhelmed or whatever, putting
your hand there to move energyaround.
Right, and I'll I'll.
One of the things I'll bring totheir awareness when I'm doing
a class is how many times nowthat you know that is what that
is and that's what you're doing,how many times do you sit with
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your hand on your forehead whenyou don't quite feel right?
Yeah, be it stress, be it ahead cold, be it just just kind
of energetically declined alittle bit, I mean, we all do it
naturally, yeah, even whenyou're talking about working
with energy.
So same premise You're going todo things that feel good
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naturally.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
You just don't know you're doing them.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
And is it going to be based off historical?
What made you feel goodpreviously in the same situation
?
It can be, but it can also justbe, because it's ingrained in in
your overall blueprint I agree,you know, and that's where, uh,
we, we get into a habitualmoment when the brain goes into
that subconscious easy thoughtand goes from point a to point b
(31:54):
.
If you have done this energysession before and it made you
feel better, and they're, likeyou know, putting your hand on
your forehead, their brainswould automatically take you
there.
So you teach yourself a habit.
And that's what I told her wasis you have to teach yourself a
new habit that creates adifferent environment so you can
free up the energy to identifythe issues.
(32:15):
When you're struggling withidentifying what's making you
feel bad, right, and she saidbecause a lot of people don't
actually back up, because a lotof people don't realize that the
, the brain does that, just likewater or electric and um so
(32:37):
he's got something wrong withhis contact and so he's Popeye
in it right this minute with oneeye closed and he's got
something in his eye, so helooks like Popeye right this
minute and trying to focus.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
So let's talk about why we brought that into our
reality, literally andsymbolically.
Is there something he's notseeing?
Is there something that ischallenging to look at for
himself, that the body isbringing up for him as a
representation of something heneeds to look at and is not
(33:13):
looking at?
Maybe You've got to look at thesymbology of it that did not
feel good it didn't look like itfelt good, but it was funny, it
was so weird.
It was like suddenly somethingwas in my eye yeah, so I mean,
even that is communication fromthe body.
Why did you create thatsomething that you're ready to
look at, but not allowingyourself to look at Something
(33:37):
that you're not seeing?
Energy that's built up there.
Maybe you need to do a littlebit of energy work.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Camera one camera two .
Camera one, camera two.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Tell me which is better, one or two?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
One or two Probably.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
It's annoying to go to the eye doctor and have them
do that, especially when they dothat little trick, where they
are exactly the same.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
And you're like oh my .
Speaker 2 (34:06):
God, they look the same.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
They look the same.
Is that the wrong answer?
Oh my God, there's somethingwrong with me.
Is it supposed to lookdifferent?
Oh my God, my eyes are broken.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
It's supposed to look different and I'm gonna give
the wrong answer.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
And finally, I'll just break down Under the sweat
and I'll be like listen, I don'tknow if I'm broken or not, but
they look exactly the same Did Iget the answer right or wrong.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
This is not a test.
That's what he said.
I'll be like those look thesame, yeah, so I guess I flunked
this test.
Well, anyway.
So the, the communication kindof continues with ourselves as
we identify the habits and thewe start doing those things,
(34:49):
start doing the things that wehave done historically and
changing the way.
If we don't like the result ofwhat we've done historically,
then we have to look at theprocess by which we're doing it
and identify a new way.
You know, like you, puttingyour hand on your forehead,
you're teaching people to workenergy.
I'm teaching people to identifythought differently, and when
those two things come togetherand when you get good and
(35:11):
practiced at it, you can goright into auto mode.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Right, it takes no time.
No time at all Time doesn'texist actually Rabbit hole.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
We create the time through our definitions of what
we think, the amount of time itshould take to do option A or
option B, or whatever theEnglishman invented the clock
the time, I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
I wanted to say that.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Englishmen yeah, I don't know who are they.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
You know those people .
You know those people.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Versus the Spanishmen .
Speaker 2 (35:47):
I don't know who did.
I just know the Mayans had acalendar and they didn't have a
clock.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
So time was actually created by kind of the all.
That is Because without timeyou can't really experience
things linearly, and if we gointo a reality where we know
that everything is happeningsimultaneously, it takes away
from the authenticity ofexperiencing one thing at a time
(36:18):
, of the human experience On atimeline.
Yeah, okay, so it was actuallycreated by the all, that is for
the purpose of having a veryHuman experience.
Linear experience Linear.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Okay, that way you don't just randomly jump from
dimension to dimension.
Maybe you do.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Well, it's a different experience if you know
that you can do that, versus ifyou think you can't.
Right, you're going to perceiveit differently.
Very good and the outcome ofthe experience would be much
different.
I'll give you an example.
Okay, you practice all the timealigning with the reality that
(37:08):
you can change the red light ata snap of your fingers.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
And you created the concept that I'm better at it
than you are, and you continueto practice your magic.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
so to speak.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
And then the other day when you did it, you're
pretty excited that you're likeoh my God, I finally did it, I
finally did it, I finally did it.
That felt good.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
El Chango.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
It was fun and it was exciting, but if you went into
that knowing that you have thepower to do that at any given
time I've got the power, and itdoesn't have to take any time at
all.
When you did it, it would belike oh yeah, I know I can do
that, so what's the big deal?
You wouldn't have gotten thesame feeling or experience out
(37:52):
of it.
It would have been a differentexperience.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Yeah, it was a good time.
I did it twice actually in thatday.
It was pretty good.
You know, everybody does thatand I don't think they realize
they do it.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Do what?
Speaker 2 (38:08):
When they're sitting at a stoplight.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
They're sitting there trying to energetically change
it, because they're tired ofsitting at the stoplight already
.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yeah, unless you're doing something else and the
stopped is a convenience.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Yeah, like for me if I am trying to do something and
I need to not drive for a minute, so I can get it done, like
putting on mascara while you'redriving, oh.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
I knew I'd get somebody when I threw that out
there.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
You're going to get the weapons, Because the other
day I saw a lady doing thatwhile she was driving.
I was like wow Anyway.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Haven't done that in a minute, huh.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Stop it.
I haven't.
I haven't done that in a minuteEver since I got my eyeliner
tattooed on, and now I go and Ihave a lady put my little
eyelashes on.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
I don't do that anymore.
I remember when we firststarted dating I would watch you
drive off on your littleVolkswagen Bug doing your makeup
, driving down the road Doing myeyeliner.
I'm asking when you weredriving with your knee.
I'm talented.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
I'm a talented biatch .
Speaker 2 (39:06):
That comes from smoking weed back in the day.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
I wasn't a big weed smoker.
Actually, my body didn'tresonate with it.
Every time I try to smoke it Ipass out and go into this realm
of unaliveness.
So I wasn't a big.
I mean, that's happened to meEven from the first time I
smoked it in school.
(39:29):
I passed out, it stoppedbreathing, scared the shit out
of my teacher, and then I did ita couple of other times.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
That's how I learned to drive with my knee, so I
could hold the pipe and thelighter at the same time while I
was driving down the road.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
No, literally, I learned to drive with my knee
because I needed my hands toeither curl my hair you remember
when the curling irons werebutane Cordless.
That was such a new inventionNever.
Well, you don't curl your hair.
I didn't have that money.
No, my hair is naturally curly.
Yeah, if you don't curl yourhair, you wouldn't understand.
(40:01):
Yeah, but they.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
I definitely couldn't afford a cordless, freaking
hair curler.
Yeah, so when?
Speaker 1 (40:07):
they first came out, the cordless was not a thing.
What they did is they came outwith curling iron that ran on
this little uh, this little tankof like butane some kind of
burner in it.
Yeah, like somehow it ran offof like uh butane type product
(40:27):
and you put this littlecartridge in it and it would get
hot and it was cordless itdidn't have a cord.
You didn't know that yeah, theymay even still have them, I
don't know.
Nowadays they have therechargeable batteries and all
of that that are much safer.
Oh yeah, I can imagine Good tomention.
So those of us that don't reallylive in the construct of time
(40:50):
or we create our own time, tendto be tagged as late all the
time, tend to be tagged as lateall the time, and so, to fit
into everyone else's bubble oftime watchers and time police,
we find loopholes.
So my loophole was to put mymakeup on and do my hair in the
(41:12):
car on the way to work the caron the way to work, and so
having a cordless hair, iron andlearning to put my eyeliner and
my mascara on.
I digress in the car was quiteconvenient, so coming up to a
red light, I could get a lot ofshit done at the red light.
Make it stay red yeah, I wasokay with it being red and and
(41:36):
sticking there for a minutebecause I was like man, I can
get this whole eye done ifyou'll just hang on one more
second.
And then the next time I canget the whole other eye done,
and then I can curl my hair, andthen I get to work and
magically I'm all put together.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Yeah, it was pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Fun times.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
It was Good times back in the day um so what?
We still have good times everyday oh yeah, most definitely.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
So, just different kind of fun I think we we
covered that topic pretty good,but you know the I think the
thing that people need torealize is there is no set way
of doing it no you, you just gotto figure out what feels good
next yeah, and what's sosurprising to me is that there's
still, even though we keeprepeating that and we keep
teaching it, you know, be itthrough the podcast or through
(42:24):
seminars, there's still so manypeople out there that think that
there's, like this guru,instructed, set way of doing
things to get you to a feelbetter place, the magic cure
Right here.
Here's the magic pill.
Here Let me wave my magic wand,which I do have, you know, like
(42:46):
there's some sort of magicalrecipe that we're all doing, and
it's not.
I can't tell you how manytechniques and tools and things
I have tried along my 30-yearjourney and they change.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
You know, like for a few months it's this particular
stone.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
But then it changes, and then it's smelling this
particular herb.
So I'll burn it my patchouliyeah, you're a patchouli guy.
I do like patchouli.
Burn it, my patchouli.
Yeah, you're a patchouli guy.
He really resonates withpatchouli, so we run that often
in the.
I do like the patchouli In the.
What is the little machinecalled?
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Motor coach.
The diffuser, oh, the diffuser,yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
Yeah, so we run a lot of patchouli through our life.
It just doesn't.
I mean it just it varies.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
Are you glitzing?
Speaker 1 (43:40):
No, I was just trying to decide what.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
I wanted to say next.
So the key is try stuff.
I think all you got to do ismake yourself aware, and if
you're judging yourself throughit.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Oh my God, if I carry around a big ball of quartz,
people are going to think I'mweird.
So what Says the person that?
Speaker 2 (43:59):
carry around a big ball of quartz, people are going
to think I'm weird.
So what Says the person thatcarries around a big ball of
quartz?
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Who cares Like try it .
Speaker 2 (44:05):
If it makes you feel better, I don't care what
anybody else thinks.
If it makes me feel better, Idon't care what anybody thinks.
Of course I don't care whatanybody thinks anyway.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
If it makes you feel better to wear big clown red
shoes, then put them on.
That might be kind of fun.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Maybe I have to do that one day.
Can I put it on my nose?
Speaker 1 (44:22):
You can do whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Can I make it where I push the nose and it goes
whoo-da.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Why do your eyes look so sleepy?
Oh, because you had a stick inyour eye.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
Yeah, maybe you had a sharp stick in your eye.
I'd rather do that than get asharp stick in the eye, I don't
know.
But so, um, you have anythingelse?
Speaker 1 (44:45):
I have lots of stuff, but I don't know where we are
on time.
I could literally sit here andjust conversate all day.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
With myself or others .
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Whatever you want to talk about, I will go there with
you, and that's a great prelude, isn't?
It Hand in hand.
I will go there with you, ofcourse.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
This is a great life.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
It's a great way to live.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
And there's no topic that's off limits, nope.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Go ahead and leave a comment, send us an email,
whatever.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
We'll talk about anything.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
We sure will.
If there is something you'restuck on, just send us a note or
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whatever.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
Or Facebook or whatever.
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Speaker 2 (45:31):
Check us out.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
Because we have a Facebook thing too.
We do.
I think we're on most all theplatforms.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Yeah, if you go to one platform and you type in at
the Merck Centers, it'll linkall of them together for you.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
I see.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
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We have the Instagram X andFacebook links at the bottom of
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Speaker 1 (46:08):
Yeah, the thing to take away is that you are the
most interesting thing, soexplore yourself.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
And figure out.
Get curious about yourself.
Get curious about your mind,your body, your soul and see
what that communication is.
Develop a line of communicationwith you and yourself and start
to explore that.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Totally.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
And see what feels good.
What permission slip do youneed?
Speaker 2 (46:38):
I need the lottery one yourself and start to
explore that and see what feelsgood.
What permission slip do youneed?
I need the one I need thelottery one.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
There's different ones out there.
Yeah, I'm playing, and so juststart trying them on to see what
fits.
Yeah, I totally agree and thendon't get stuck in the okay,
this one is what works.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Yeah, don't go, definitely don't have
expectations.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
If it changes, then go with something new.
Going with intentions notexpectations, because I get this
a lot whenever I'm working withpeople.
I used to do this, but itdoesn't seem to be working
anymore.
Well, that's because you're awhole new person every second of
the day, so the person that itused to work for you've evolved
(47:20):
and you're not that personanymore, so go find what the
next thing is yeah, we change,that's for sure that's.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
The only thing you can depend on is that I have no
idea what's the mission we'regoing to be in including us.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Yeah, and that's been proven scientifically.
You're a whole new person everyso often.
I mean even your blood cells.
They change out.
120 days in You're getting awhole new lineup.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
Skin cells.
You slough off your skin cells.
You get a whole new lineup.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
Yep, totally agree.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
So you're a whole new person.
Yep, totally agree, so you're awhole new person.
Anyway, one second to anotherand stay real with it.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Man.
Hey, thank you all forlistening today.
Um, you did.
Did you have anything?
no, I'm good don't forget tolike, follow, share and
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talk about.
We will always do it.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Hey, you all have an awesome day.
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Part Ring that bell To getnotifications when we uploaded
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notifications or just the newepisodes and all that stuff.
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Don't forget to choose that, otherwise you'll
get just the stuff when you'reon the internet.
When you're on the interwebs,you'll get a notification.
If you don't have them allclicked, or the new ones clicked
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All right, y'all have an awesome day.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
Love.
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